April 7, 2025 • 55 mins
We explore the fascinating world of psychic abilities and spiritual intuition with Nikki Williams, a medium who shares insights about distinguishing true intuition from intrusive thoughts. Nikki reveals how her neurodivergent mind enhances her spiritual gifts while offering practical advice for developing your own intuitive abilities.
• Nikki explains her various psychic abilities including clairvoyance, clairaudience, and medical intuition
• The clear difference between intrusive thoughts (which create anxiety) and true intuition (which has a stillness to it)
• How meditation and breathwork can help quiet the mind and enhance intuitive abilities
• The ethical considerations when receiving psychic information about others
• Connection between neurodivergence and heightened spiritual sensitivity
• Practical advice for trusting your inner voice without self-doubt
• The importance of creative outlets like baking, singing, and coloring for entering meditative states
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Amy Taylor (00:00):
Welcome back to Advancing with Amy, mental
Health Warrior and Neuro SpicyMama.
It's Amy here and I'm superexcited about today's episode
because I have a very specialguest joining me, my longtime
friend, Nikki Williams.
Nikki and I go way back we'retalking high school days way
back and fun pampered chefparties kind of back.
(00:20):
She's one of the mostfascinating people I know.
Nikki is neurodivergent and sheshares about her OCD and
intrusive thoughts as well, butshe's also a singer, a community
theater enthusiast and apsychic extraordinaire.
She's got some seriously coolstories and insights to share
about tarot, astrology andtapping into your inner
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intuition.
Plus, she's got a knack forturning everyday moments into
something magical.
Trust me, you're going to loveher as much as I do.
So sit back, relax and let'sdive into the world of
spirituality and a bit ofkitchen fun with Nikki.
All right, we're here withNikki Williams today and welcome
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Nikki.
Hi, amy, it's good to be, here.
Yeah, Nikki is a longtime friendof mine.
We went to high school togetherand we just did a pampered chef
party together.
Nikki Williams (01:18):
Yes, we did.
Amy Taylor (01:18):
It was so much fun it was it was, and I got some
good stuff that says it's comingMonday.
Nikki Williams (01:24):
Oh, that's great .
I do think the air fryer ovensare on back order, so be aware
of that.
Amy Taylor (01:30):
I was told that, but then it says it's coming.
Nikki Williams (01:33):
Oh great, wonderful.
Mine did not get here today,but it should be soon.
Thanks to your party, I earneda free oven and air fryer.
Oh yay.
Amy Taylor (01:43):
That's awesome.
Well, it was very fun, so youdo a lot of fun things.
Nikki Williams (01:49):
I do.
Amy Taylor (01:50):
Yeah, you want to tell us a little bit about the
fun things you do.
Nikki Williams (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Well, of course, as you know,I'm doing the Pampered Chef
thing now, which is a ball.
I'm passionate about that.
I'm also a singer.
I also do community theater andthings like that.
I have one right behind myhouse, actually, so that worked
out nicely.
And I am a psychic, Wow yeah.
And in that umbrella term ofpsychic we're talking
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clairvoyance, clairaudience,clairsentience.
I'm a medical intuitive.
I'm also a natal astrologer.
I've been drawing up birthcharts since I was nine years
old and I'm a Reiki master,which is a Japanese form of
energy healing.
I'm an empath.
That kind of goes along withsome interesting psychological
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issues we can delve into at somepoint.
Amy Taylor (02:44):
Along with some interesting psychological issues
we can delve into at some point.
Nikki Williams (02:46):
But along with being clairvoyant, it kind of
goes in the same territory.
I'm a medium as well.
I don't usually do a lot ofmediumship work because spirits
don't shut up.
Amy Taylor (03:00):
Now tell me what's the difference between medium
and psychic?
Nikki Williams (03:03):
Well, a medium is someone who can communicate
with spirits, whether they bepeople who have passed or
whether they be spirit guides,angelic beings, nature spirits.
It can be any form of I guesswe'll call it paranormal
communication, and it kind ofalso goes with the clairaudience
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you can see and hear.
So the clairvoyant means clearseeing, which is funny because
I'm blind, but I see things thatother people in general do not
see, including auras.
Amy Taylor (03:46):
I see people's auras and chakras and meridian points
, other types of energy centersand, yeah, have you been able to
do all this since you wereyoung?
You said you started nine withthe natal charts.
But yeah, or good stuff, didthat come early on?
Nikki Williams (03:58):
I have always, and I and I didn't know.
Here's an interesting thingI've always always seen and
spoken to other beings orspirits, I guess we will call
them.
I was always told they were myimaginary friends.
When I was really little.
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I've always seen, seen aurasaround people and I would ask,
like my parents, I'm like do yousee the, the, the colors around
?
And they're like uh, what areyou talking about?
I also I have something called,and there's been an interesting
book about that.
(04:42):
Oh, what is the word for it?
It is, it's a sensory type ofissue where, for example, you
can see feelings or you can hearthem, or there's a word for
this and I can't think of itright now, but there's a book
about it called Monday is a BlueDay, which it is.
Monday is blue, very much.
So.
I asked my mom one time if shecould see her headaches, because
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I was having a lot of headacheswhen I hit puberty, you know
like hormone induced typemigraines, and I could see them.
I could tell you the shape ofthem and the color of them, and
she was like no, but my fathersaid, well, yeah, I know what
that is.
So I think that might have.
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So, he knew.
It's kind of a sensoryintegration type of issue where
the senses kind of overlap eachother, and I've always done
interesting things like astraltravel, even as a kid, just by
accident.
Things like astral travel, evenas a kid, just by accident, I
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would be somewhere, completesomewhere else completely, but
yet physically I would be here.
Was that scary?
Huh, was that ever scary?
Yeah, it's been more scary asan adult.
As a kid I was just like, okay,well, I'm just, you know
somewhere, and then it'd be likeearth to Nikki wait what?
And you have the sensation ofliterally snapping back into
your own body.
But I didn't know that's whatthat was, because I didn't grow
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up in a family where any of thatwas really explored or much
less condoned, because I didgrow up Baptist.
Um, but but my mom had is theone that developed the interest
in astrology and she bought abook I don't remember the name
of it, but by an astrologernamed Linda Goodman, who I love.
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She passed away a long time ago, I think in the 90s Still one
of my favorite astrology authorsto this day but she had a book
and you could learn to draw upnatal charts with this book and
my mom was like you should seeif you can make anything out of
this, because she didn't get itand I literally sat down and
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went oh yeah, I know how to dothis and started doing the math
and everything and drawing upbirth charts, like it was second
nature, which I think all ofthis really is for most people
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that express any type of psychicor occult science gift.
It's kind of an eight and allchildren, for example, are
inherently spiritually giftedbut unfortunately society just
kind of trains that out of youyou're taught no matter what to
doubt yourself.
Yeah, that's, and that transtranscends just psychic issues.
We're all, unfortunately,taught as we get older we'll
always second guess yourself,always doubt that, that inherent
, intuitive, still small voiceoh yeah, did you ever question
your mental health, or didanybody else Um?
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uh, I think that I grew up in atime period where, well, first
of all, girls were never, hardlyever, diagnosed with anything.
You had boys that werediagnosed as quote unquote,
hyperactive and about that timethey were given out Ritalin.
But I was always a bit of aproblem kid in school, not as
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far as being mean or beingrotten, but I was the kid who
couldn't focus very ADHD of me.
I ended up in the hallway allthe time because I was a
distraction.
I was the kid who got talks toomuch, doodling in the margins,
all that kind of stuff.
But nobody really everquestioned my mental health.
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As far as wondering if I hadsome type of.
I had some type of diagnosablecondition, I did go through a
very severe time of depressionwhen I was about sixth, seventh,
eighth grade.
A lot of it had to do withbullying.
I was definitely different,extremely different, and my
mother always said I was thesquare peg trying to fit into
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the round hole.
Now, with my youngest daughter,my youngest daughter is on the
spectrum and I see so much ofmyself in her and I forget the
name of the test.
There's a test that you cantake.
It's even online, where itgives you the likelihood of
whether you are on the autismspectrum and I scored about off
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the charts.
I was incredibly immature andsocially awkward, and those were
the words used at the time.
You know that was.
That was in the eighties.
Amy Taylor (09:34):
Well, yeah, my daughter, my youngest child, my
daughter is autistic as well andand I've questioned whether I
am or not I never felt like Ibelonged.
I always felt like everybodyelse knew something I didn't.
Nikki Williams (09:49):
Yeah, I kind of felt that way myself and I
thought I should belong.
I tried to.
Amy Taylor (09:54):
Right.
Nikki Williams (09:54):
I really did.
I didn't grow up in an uncaringhome.
We had our own issues, but,like my mom is awesome.
You know my mom Amazing.
Yeah, she is an amazing womanand it's thanks to her that I
didn't completely abandon thesespiritual gifts, because she was
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exploring and questioning alittle bit herself just in that
area of astrology.
She's always thought that wasinteresting and it's kind of
because of that that I startedto delve further and further
into.
I started with that and then Ijust started reading more on
different subjects and then,when I was 17 years old my very
best friend at the time I don'tknow if she her name was Erica
(10:38):
she gave me my very first tarotdeck and I literally sat down
and did a reading for her, rightthere.
Amy Taylor (10:45):
You didn't even have to read the book, did you?
Nikki Williams (10:53):
No, and you're not really.
I mean, you can read the book,but that's not really how tarot
works.
Tarot is supposed to beinterpretive.
It has some general guidelineshere and there, but it's
supposed to be more inspired bythings like free association.
It's supposed to be moreinspired by things like free
association, and because thelanguage of spirit is very
symbolic in nature and likedreams, dreams are very symbolic
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in nature.
They are not meant to be takenliterally.
Once in a blue moon, yeah,you'll have something.
That's very precognitive.
I've had those dreams beforeand that can be scary, but
frequently.
For example, I know when Idream about earthquakes it
doesn't mean literal earthquakes, but it does mean that things
are about to go really sidewayson probably a global scale.
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Needless to say, I've had a lotof earthquake dreams lately.
Amy Taylor (11:40):
I can see that.
Nikki Williams (11:42):
And tornado dreams tend to be tied more to
personal emotional chaos for me.
Amy Taylor (11:50):
Do you just figure that out after having the dream,
and then those things happenenough times.
Nikki Williams (11:56):
Yeah, and that one I started figuring out when
I was a terror of tornadoes.
I don't have that fear anymore,I overcame that, but I was,
literally up until my late 20s,early 30s, petrified.
It was a phobia for me, but I'dhad so many dreams.
And then I started to delveinto a little bit more dream
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interpretation and realized thatit was very similar to tarot
interpretation, that thesymbolic language speaks mainly
to the right, that more rightbrain and I know that's an
outdated perspective, but thatmore right brain, what we
typically use to associate withthat perspective, the more
symbology and that it needed thefree association in order for
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that other part of the brain togo.
Oh, oh, that's making sense now.
Okay, and when I talk to people,when I'm giving them readings
and we talk about their dreams,we talk about I'm saying, all
right, you got to keep a dreamjournal first of all.
Secondly, you need to sit downand write it down immediately.
When you get a, when you have adream that really sticks, it's
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going to stick with you, wake upbefore you go to the bathroom
or anything, write it down, thenyou leave it alone and you come
back to it like two weeks laterand you read through it and you
let that inspire some freeassociation, and then you let
that lead you in the directionof something that makes sense.
Oftentimes, like numbers willrepeat themselves or they'll
stand out, or words or colors orspecific imagery.
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But you know like, for example,when we dream usually when we
dream about other people theyaren't actually those other
people.
They tend to represent aspectsof ourself.
Now we're getting into someinteresting Jungian type of
dream interpretation.
Amy Taylor (13:40):
Yeah, you know, I always think I'm going to
remember the dream, so I don'tneed to write it down because
it's so clear.
At the time I think, how can Iforget this?
And then it's gone.
Nikki Williams (13:52):
Yeah, Later on you come back and you go ah, I
know, I dropped something, Iknow it.
But you get so caught up in theday-to-day hustle and bustle of
life.
You've got so many things thatyour prefrontal cortex is trying
to prioritize Emphasis on theword trying and you have these
things that you have toprioritize in waking life for
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survival more than anything.
You've got to go to work, you'vegot to make the money, you've
got to make food, you've got to.
You know you got to pay thebills, you got to do this, that
and the other.
And it's no wonder that thingslike that get lost, because
they're not really part oflong-term memory, they're more
stuck there in the workingmemory, which is fleeting.
Amy Taylor (14:34):
Yeah, that's interesting.
So do you think that yourneurodivergence feeds into all
of your gifts?
Nikki Williams (14:44):
I think it does.
I think that one is part of theother.
Obviously, because thingsappear differently to me and
because I can feel the mood in aroom, because I can see the
colors that are around peopleand things like that, I'm going
to have a different perspectiveand that perspective is going to
feed the way I behave.
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And when it comes toneurodivergence, it's all more
about behavior than anything,but it's also about perspective
and perception as well.
I always say that perception isabout nine-tenths of reality
and the other tenth is unlimitedpossibility.
Oh, I love that I get all ofthis input.
And, first of all, I don'tbelieve in destiny.
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I don't believe in it.
I believe in choices.
Now, I do believe that therethat stuff happens.
I believe that we are dealt acertain hand of cards.
You can't control most of thethings that are happening but
you can control you what you dowith it.
So life is about choices.
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So I try and I've learned overtime I mean, 51 years is a
decent amount of time, thisplanet.
So I have, and I think I'vegotten a little better at it.
I hope anyway that I can takethose differences in perception
and perspective and now I canuse them to make more informed
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choices and to help other peoplemake more informed choices,
which is what I try to focus onwhen I read for someone, whether
it be sitting down and gettingmessages from people who have
passed, or whether I'm readingtarot, which I do almost
everything along with tarot I'mreading tarot, which I do all of
almost everything, along withtarot.
I call my version of readingtarot.
I call it holistic tarot,because I look at the whole
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picture.
I use my clairvoyance, myclairaudience, my clairsentience
, I use my medical intuition.
I use all of these differentgifts, plus my knowledge of
astrology and all of thesedifferent things and my
mediumship, and I channel thatthrough the symbology of tarot
and I just put it all togetherto bring these messages to
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people.
But I always try to emphasizeit's still about your choice.
If I tell you something youdon't like and I am not the kind
of person to sugarcoat anything.
That's also one of the thingsthat always got me in trouble is
that I'm relatively blunt, butI tell people if you don't like
what I tell you, if you don'tlike what I'm seeing nine times
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out of 10, you have the abilityto change it.
I can't stand when people comeback to me and go oh, you said
this horrible thing was going tohappen and it did.
I'm like, but I told you that,so it wouldn't.
Amy Taylor (17:21):
Right.
Nikki Williams (17:25):
You know, I told you this was the wrong guy for
you so you could get out of thatrelationship because you were
going to get hurt.
Right, you know, and it's like,but unfortunately and this
happens with I'm going to usethis as an example this was many
years ago.
I was reading for someone andthey sat down with a friend of
theirs.
Now, when people sit together,their auras change, and
especially if they're closetheirs.
Now, when people sit together,their auras change, and
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especially if they're close goodfriends, married people,
siblings they merge and createan entirely new field of energy.
And they sat down.
I saw this red light, intense,painful red that came into this
aura and goes from the right tothe left, came in from the right
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, goes up and I got horriblechest pains.
Horrible because that's part ofmedical intuition, as you can
even feel other people's stuffand I can take things forward in
time and backwards in time, seewhat caused it or see where
it's headed.
I don't diagnose things, but Isee energy signatures.
But what I told them, both saidI'm not sure which one of you
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this refers to because there'stoo much energy for both of you
going on, but both of you takeyourself to the doctor, have
your heart checked.
This is serious stuff.
This is serious stuff.
I saw the one person that theone person I was reading for two
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months later at a diner, justchance meeting, and they said I
asked how they were doing andthey said you gave a reading to
me, my friend, and I to myself,but my friend was with me and
you told us about this potentialcardiac problem.
Amy Taylor (19:02):
I said yeah, I remember.
Nikki Williams (19:04):
And they said well, I went to the doctor and
got checked out and everything'sfine, but they did not take the
advice and they passed away ofa heart attack just a few weeks
ago.
I'm like oh, my God, and, and Iwas in my probably mid thirties
at the time and I hadn't dealtwith anything that serious yet,
and it devastated me.
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I almost quit reading.
Amy Taylor (19:27):
I was just going to say that's a life changing kind
of event.
Nikki Williams (19:31):
It was.
And then I sat with it, Imeditated Meditation very
important for developing yourspiritual gifts.
On the side note, I sat with it, I meditated on it and the
message I got was you did whatyou were supposed to do.
You gave them the message.
You cannot control whether ornot they do anything about it.
Amy Taylor (19:56):
That makes sense to me and I've always thought.
I've always heard with tarotcards that it's not telling your
future.
It's saying this is the pathyou're on.
If you decide to stay on thispath, this could happen.
Nikki Williams (20:09):
Yes, or if you go this other way, this could be
the outcome.
These are potential outcomes.
Now, sometimes you can get aclear yes and no and you can get
a pretty clear answer.
The more specific yourquestions, the more specific the
answers are going to be.
I can sit down and give a greatgeneral reading, but it's going
to go wherever spirit wants itto go, not necessarily where the
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querent wants it to go.
Right, yeah, Because oftentimespeople have oh my Lord, I'm
rolling my eyes right now, butyou get so many love life
questions.
Amy Taylor (20:43):
Oh, I bet, and it's just now, but you get so many
love life questions.
Nikki Williams (20:46):
Oh, I bet, and it's just like.
Obviously you need to work onyourself, or you wouldn't be
asking me about this.
Where's the right person?
Amy Taylor (21:00):
Well, first of all, you have to be the right person
for yourself.
My mom used to tell me all thetime when I'd ask her, why can't
I find somebody, she'd say, amy, you have to love yourself
first.
And I always thought that wassuch a bunch of BS.
And then later, when I finallylearned to love myself, I was
like, oh, that's what she meant.
Nikki Williams (21:18):
Yes, I always use the analogy of the flight
attendant that says if we losecabin pressure and the oxygen
masks drop down from the ceiling, put yours on first.
Yes, before helping the peoplearound you, because you cannot
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help them if you're passed outfrom oxygen deprivation.
Amy Taylor (21:42):
Right, you're no good.
Nikki Williams (21:45):
Yeah, you can be no good to anybody else if
you're not good to and foryourself.
And that delves into a wholelot of this too.
I mean this we could go on forhours.
Amy Taylor (21:55):
Oh, I'm sure so.
Have you ever had a reading tomake you just laugh?
Nikki Williams (22:02):
Oh God, so many Really, I don't even know.
I mean now sometimes, sometimes.
I get some wackadoodle out there, questions, but I have had some
that I got so tickled aboutbecause I God there's been so
many.
I'm trying to think of aspecific example because, oddly
enough, those are not the onesthat stick with you as much.
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Oh okay, but there have beentimes when my querens and I have
been in stitches like I havealmost literally fallen on the
floor from laughing so hard, andit usually just has to do with
something I see coming their way, like, for example, I
frequently will see when a childis coming into someone's life
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and sometimes I get the coolestbecause these little souls
already exist in the ether andthey will come through and be
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like and some of them are justso you know, ornery, mischievous
little souls that are showingme little glimpses of what their
personality is going to be likeand how they're going to be.
And I'm like, oh my Lord, thiskid is a corker, this is the kid
that quietly plays thepractical jokes but then looks
at you like who?
Me?
You know, you just get sotickled.
Or I will sometimes run acrossthe spirit of someone who's
passed.
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Grandpas are like this a lot.
They tend to be the more orneryones and they'll come through,
yeah, frequently sayingsomething that they said in life
.
So they can.
This is how they're going toknow it's me and they get these
mischievous little grins andmaybe pull on somebody's ear, or
you know, know, it's me andthey get these mischievous
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little grins and maybe pull onsomebody's ear, or you know, and
it's like what, and then I'vehad some downright scary ones.
Ooh, I've had some.
Well, I think the issue withthe heart attack is probably the
most.
Amy Taylor (23:58):
Yeah, that's severe.
Nikki Williams (24:00):
Yeah, now, I haven't had any type of horribly
horrible entities come throughbecause, in all honesty, there
isn't such a thing, right,because all there is, when you
boil down to it, is love.
Amy Taylor (24:15):
Yes, god is love.
Nikki Williams (24:17):
Whatever you see as God, the universe, I don't
care what word you use for it,in the end there's only love,
and there is so much stigma andI will blame a lot of it on
certain monotheistic religion.
There's so much stigma around,oh yeah, oh, demonic possession.
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No, no, no, no, no.
That is not how this works.
A lot of these things thatpeople get that come through,
that are negative, are thoughtforms.
And in, in astral, in spirit, inthe ether, all these different
words for it.
Thoughts are real, and if youput negative energy out there,
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that's what you're going tocreate.
Amy Taylor (25:01):
Right, you're giving power to those thoughts.
Nikki Williams (25:03):
Yes, that's what you're going to create, right,
you're giving power to thosethoughts, yes, and then you are
creating the form of the thoughtthat you have put out there,
and you've got to be carefulwith that.
However, actual beings, actualentities, whether spiritual or
otherwise, are not demonic orevil or anything like that.
It's not how it works and,oddly, we could really get into
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some interesting discussionsabout death and what happens
after you die and things likethat, because that's nothing
like most people think it is.
I will tell you that a lot ofpeople who have the gift of
mediumship are misdiagnosed,with disorders like
schizophrenia Schizophreniabeing a very, very real
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diagnosis.
Amy Taylor (25:47):
Right.
Nikki Williams (25:47):
And a friend of my daughter's had been diagnosed
with this many, many, manyyears ago as a child.
She came to my house.
I'm a pagan and we celebratethe wheel of the year and one of
our big time celebrations isthe winter solstice, yule, and
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we do.
My family at my house, we havecelebrated Yule every year and
sometimes we invite close, closefriends over and things like
that for our Yule celebration.
And I do a Yule ritual, I dowhat's called calling the
quarters and I bless everythingand I cleanse the space.
And one of the things that I dowhen I'm blessing and I'm like
no spirits or anything, nothoughts, nothing can come into
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this space without being of goodintention.
Only good and pure thoughts,and that's it.
You know that's beautiful.
Yeah, only good and purethoughts, and that's it.
You know that's beautiful, yeah, well, this young lady and I
think that my daughters wereearly in high school at the time
this young lady, after we wereall done, the celebration was
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over, after I closed the circleand everything, she said that's
the first time in my life Ihaven't heard the voices.
And I said honey, that'sbecause you're not schizophrenic
, you're a medium.
I kept spirit in general.
I kept spirits out of my circle.
I didn't want anythingdistracting from the energy we
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were trying to raise, fromfocusing on the good that comes
with the returning of the sun.
Little days getting longerthat's what the soul says about
the return of light in a time ofdark, darkness and change your
whole future yeah, and, and sheit did.
She's a practicing pagan herselfnow and it just completely
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changed her perspective and shewas able to get control of that
gift.
Amy Taylor (27:44):
Oh, I got chills.
That's so cool.
Nikki Williams (27:46):
And I was like that's mediumship You're going
to.
When you have a very clearmediumship gift.
You're going to hear messagesand things from your spirit,
guides and stuff, and that caneasily be misinterpreted.
Amy Taylor (28:00):
And that was a question I was going to ask you
how do you distinguish betweenintuition and intrusive thoughts
or just overthinking something?
Nikki Williams (28:11):
Intrusive thoughts tend to snowball.
Okay, they also tend to bereally
whack-a-doodle-off-the-wallthoughts, like real intrusive
thoughts.
I have obsessive compulsivedisorder, so I deal with this on
a regular basis.
The actual intrusive thoughtsExample you can be doing
something totally normal, makingmacaroni and cheese.
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I really don't want to put thisin anybody's head, but I'm
going to.
Anyway.
I'm going to give you anexample of an intrusive thought
that I had while at dinner thatspawned my ritualistic behaviors
that I have to do in order toquell the anxiety from obsessive
compulsive disorder.
I'm making macaroni and cheese,just homemade macaroni and
cheese.
I've made it a million times.
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Suddenly, what I see notliterally see, but in my mind-
is a bunch of roach eggshatching in the macaroni and
cheese and this massive amountof cockroaches crawling out of
my macaroni and I'm like and Igo into immediate panic it's not
.
I know it's not happening.
I know it's not a realisticfear.
I know it's my mind playingtricks on me, because that's not
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a thing that's going to behappening.
You know, particularly since I'mboiling stuff on the stove and
things like that.
But the fear is real.
The fear is overwhelming.
You can't make the intrusivethought go away with logic and
reason.
You have to find a way to quellthe anxiety when you have
obsessive compulsive disorder.
Hence the compulsion.
The obsession is the intrusivethought.
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The compulsion is theritualistic behavior that
follows.
That's how you define obsessivecompulsive disorder, not the
same as obsessive compulsivedisorder, not the same as
obsessive personality disorder.
That's a completely differentthing.
But the compulsive behavior hasto be engaged in order to make
the intrusive thought, anxiety,go away.
Okay, now, that's an intrusivethought.
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The difference between that andintuition, the difference
between that and intuitionIntuition is a still.
There's a stillness tointuition.
Does that make sense?
Yes, there's a sense of.
My grandmother used to call itand it's actually in biblical
scripture called it the gift ofknowing.
Amy Taylor (30:19):
Okay, yeah.
Nikki Williams (30:19):
This is not a guess, this is not a possibility
.
Does that make sense?
I mean, it is a possibility.
But, there's like no, I knowthis, I know this.
And well, how do you know that?
I can't explain this?
Because I know, I just knowwhen I have that sense of
knowing it's not wrong, it'snever wrong.
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Now, there are times when I getlost in interpretations and I
might go because I'm human, I'mnot God, you know like I might
get lost in the interpretationand wander down the wrong path
and usually, if I'm listening,spirit's going to go back this
way, get back on the path, Comeon.
But that sense of knowing thatcomes with true intuition.
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That's different than theanxiety of intrusive thoughts.
That makes sense.
The anxiety is the what if.
The what if game is not part ofintuition.
Amy Taylor (31:18):
I gotcha.
Yeah, that makes complete sense.
Have you ever had a messagethat came through that you
didn't want to share withsomeone?
Nikki Williams (31:28):
Um, let me think I'm pretty sure I have.
I mean, there are times when Ijust go, not doing it, find
somebody else, because themessages you get from those
who've crossed over, for example, you don't have to pass them on
.
Now, sometimes, if I'm readingfor somebody and a message does
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come through, I will give it tothem.
Amy Taylor (31:52):
Okay.
Nikki Williams (31:53):
There are things you don't do ethically.
You don't tell somebody if yousee if they're going to die.
You don't do that Completelyunethical and nobody's meant to
actually truly know that.
You know now you can do what Idid and say somebody needs to
get to the doctor.
Right, I'm feeling the symptomsof heart attack.
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I don't know which one of youthat is because there's just too
much energy and I'm overwhelmedby it.
But just get checked out,because when I got that message
I was supposed to pass it on.
I had to pass it on in orderbecause it was a preventable
medical emergency.
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Yes, that could have beenstopped.
That could have been stopped.
Somebody gets a heart cath,they get a stent, something to
that effect, but that's not howthat ended up being,
unfortunately.
Amy Taylor (32:46):
I know, that's so sad.
Nikki Williams (32:48):
But there are times once in a while it's not
really very common, but I havereceived some messages that I'm
not.
It's not that I don't want topass them on, but I'm not going
to go through the hullabaloo tofind the person and do that.
That's not what I do and I getto control that, because the
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cool thing about being living iswe have domain.
We have dominion over life.
We have dominion over ourphysical time and space.
Amy Taylor (33:23):
So does that mean you can like you did that ritual
, you can turn it off.
Nikki Williams (33:29):
It's not that I turn it off, I just I never.
I can't ever turn mine offbecause I've literally walked
with one foot on each side ofthat veil.
But I can ignore it and go.
I'm really good at going, youknow, I'm going to do this.
Instead, we'll put this on theback burner.
It's kind of like backgroundnoise then.
Amy Taylor (33:48):
Right.
Nikki Williams (33:49):
One of the I know that I cover my hair, I
wrap my, I wrap my hair.
Part of that is anxiety control.
It's really good, it's like aweighted vest, but it's on my
head, it's a head hug.
Part of that actually comesfrom Kundalini yoga.
Head wrapping is a globaltradition, shared for many
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different reasons, but inKundalini it covers the crown
chakra, which helps cover thatpsychic antenna a little bit and
tune out extra psychic noise.
Oh wow, so you can focus better.
It really does help me too.
I'm not saying it helpseverybody, but it for me.
Amy Taylor (34:25):
It is dodson plus it's pretty, so that's nice yeah
, they are pretty, but that kindof grounds you and yeah it
really does, because I wearshoes to keep my feet on the
ground.
Nikki Williams (34:37):
I'm sure you remember me from high school.
I was a freshman when you werea senior and you were probably
very much like that Nikki,Because everybody was kind of
like that Nikki.
Amy Taylor (34:47):
I don't know.
No, I just remember you had anincredible voice.
Nikki Williams (34:51):
Oh, thank you.
Amy Taylor (34:54):
And that's coming from you, because you have an
incredible voice.
Nikki Williams (34:56):
I remember you making all-state choir and I was
like I want to do that someday.
And I did, I did, I followed, Ifollowed an amy's book, oh yay
that's awesome yeah and I was inannie with you and you were
fantastic oh, thank you.
Amy Taylor (35:10):
Yeah, I miss those days.
I see you singing now at churchand I'm like, oh, she's still
doing it.
I wish I was.
Nikki Williams (35:16):
Well, you need to come sing with me sometime.
Yeah, I really enjoy it theretoo.
Now sometimes I sing at UnitySoutheast, but I frequently sing
at Unity Village Chapel.
I'll be singing there at Easterand yeah, it's a really very
open and embracing community.
It's not a traditionalChristian type of place.
Amy Taylor (35:37):
It's.
I would call it unity inOverland Park.
Nikki Williams (35:41):
Yeah, it's very.
They're very open, they're veryinteresting combination of many
paths and pretty much, and thewhole thing of we embrace all
spiritual practices and thediversity of paths that lead to
enlightenment.
Amy Taylor (35:56):
That's what I liked is I could go on Sunday and I
might hear what Buddha had tosay, or I might hear what Mother
Teresa had to say, or I mighthear from the Bible, or you just
didn't know.
It was always interesting.
Nikki Williams (36:11):
Yeah, it really is, and we're doing like small
group things now and I'm a partof a small group and we'd go out
.
We do it on via zoom and wehave a very large online
community.
That's also membership, butthat's beside the point.
It's a group called pen andsoul and it's a creative writing
group and exploring how to seethe world through different
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characters, how to see the worldthrough different characters,
and we do little, just theselittle writing exercises, all
based on the same thing, butseeing each other's different
perspective.
That's interesting.
Like one time we wrote from theperspective of a cherry blossom
.
Oh, wow, and it was a cherryblossom that was being touched
by a little blind boy.
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Oh, and it was the coolestthing.
It was deep man, sounds like it, but I'm sorry, I got
sidetracked.
Amy Taylor (37:06):
That's OK, but I have a question for you.
You do all these wonderfulreadings for people.
Can you do it for people inyour family and yourself?
Can you see what's going on foryou?
Nikki Williams (37:17):
That is a lot harder to do, and actually I
make it a point not to doreadings for people I know
extremely well or for myself,because I can't be objective and
most of us don't read forourselves or for people close to
us for the same reason, wefrequently will go well, that
can't be right, no, no, no,that's got to mean something
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else, because you see what youwant to see for that person as
opposed to what is, and it'smuch harder to take the
self-doubt and the subjectiveviewpoint out of the equation
when you're reading for somebodyclose to you, when, especially
for yourself, especially, it'sreally.
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And now there are a few people,I think, who do that, but they
tend to read much more literalinterpretive readings for
themselves.
So instead of interpretingspiritually, they'll sit down
with the actual book and look upthe actual meaning.
Amy Taylor (38:17):
That's what I do with oracle cards.
Nikki Williams (38:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know a lot of people who do that
with oracle and I do it betterwith oracle cards for myself
than I do with tarot, but I likeoracle cards.
I love that.
There are a lot of wonderfuloracles.
I have a dear friend namedSapphire Moonbeam and she has
the most beautiful oracle deckcalled moonbeam magic, which you
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can buy.
You can buy, I gotta look it upbecause I collect tarot cards
and oracle cards oh yeah, me too, me too, but they are gorgeous
and I I was a part of herkickstarter program, so I got
that the deck.
As for being one of theKickstarters, this was way back
when I want to say probably atleast six or seven years ago and
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it is the most stunning.
It's her own personal artwork.
She does energy.
Art is what she calls it.
She's a self-taught artist andthese cards are stunningly
beautiful and she really, trulyput her soul into this,
including writing the book forit herself, and it's just.
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It's a wonderful deck.
Amy Taylor (39:26):
It's wonderful I know there's a lady named hattie
and I can't remember her lastname right now.
I have to look.
Hattie thorn, have you everheard?
Yeah, I think I have.
Nikki Williams (39:34):
Yeah she has some beautiful cards and I can't
remember her last name rightnow.
I have to look, hattie Thorne.
Amy Taylor (39:36):
Have you ever heard of her?
Yeah, I think I have.
Yeah, she has some beautifulcards and I don't know if she
does them herself or if she doesAI, but they're gorgeous and
I've got a few of her sets.
They're not cheap but they'rereally nice.
Nikki Williams (39:50):
My current deck of tarot that I use and I don't
remember the author, but thecurrent one that I use on a
regular basis for reading likeit fares is called the Chrysalis
Tarot and it's this beautifuloverarching theme of
transformation and you can seeit in the artwork.
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It's very butterfly inspired.
But, it's also uses a lot of, alot of mythological like in its
influences as far as the imagery, different gods and goddesses
and from many differentmythologies, particularly in the
major arcana.
It's got, it's, it's just andit's stunningly beautiful.
Everybody who's it sounds likeoh my gosh, I love your deck.
(40:35):
I'm like thank you, I didn'tmake it Right have you ever made
a deck.
No, I have no artistic giftwhatsoever.
When it comes to things likethat, I mean just none.
I can't draw a circle.
It looks like an amoeba withgas.
Amy Taylor (40:49):
Me either.
My sister and my daughter havethe most incredible art talents,
but it skipped me completely.
Nikki Williams (40:58):
That's how I am.
My sister is an incredibleartist and both my girls are
wonderful artists, and italready looks like my little
granddaughter is quite the gift,but not me.
Nope, nope, I got all the otherthings.
Amy Taylor (41:12):
I got the musical gifts and the acting gift, but
now I can't draw to save my life, you've got a lot of gifts, so
you did pretty well.
So what would you say to aperson that was trying to lean
into their own insights andtheir own?
You know what I mean.
Nikki Williams (41:31):
Yes, yes.
The first thing I would say isdevelop a meditation practice.
You don't have to be good at it.
Meditation is one of thesereally cool things that is
beneficial, no matter how goodyou are at it, no matter how
long you do it.
You can sit down and just dobreath work for a couple of
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minutes a day.
And number one it's excellentfor stress relief.
Number two it's actuallyhealing on multiple levels,
including physically.
Amy Taylor (42:09):
Number three it's also really good for lowering
your blood pressure.
Nikki Williams (42:11):
And number four it opens you up to receiving, to
start receiving those messagesmore clearly.
Whether you are clairvoyant ornot, clairaudient, clairsentient
, whatever it is, you cannotreceive these messages, at least
in the beginning, with all thenoise in your brain constantly
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going.
You've got to find a way totone it down a little bit.
And breath work is great,because what is the one thing
that we are always doing?
We're breathing.
Right, you can live for acouple of weeks without food, a
couple of days without water.
You can't live for more than afew minutes without oxygen, and
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that breath is rhythmic.
It's something you can alwaysbring your focus to.
Now, that doesn't mean just go,I will not think.
No, you're going to think,thoughts are going to happen.
It's okay.
You let them come in and thenyou let them pass and go.
All right, did I leave thestove on?
You know what?
I'll find out in five minutes,because right now I'm breathing
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and that feels really good tobreathe.
And I always tell people tobreathe through their nose and
out of their mouth and throughtheir nose, because that's your
filter and you breathe out ofyour mouth so you're not
exhaling the carbon dioxide toyour nose.
Amy Taylor (43:33):
That makes sense.
Nikki Williams (43:35):
But your nose is your filter.
You're going exhaling thecarbon dioxide to your nose that
makes sense, but your nose isyour filter.
You're going to filter the airbetter that way and then
breathing it out through yourmouth.
Okay, but yeah, and you can do.
There's two apps I really likefor meditation.
One is Calm.
It's a good one, but myfavorite is called Balance, and
they have some fantastic wholeprograms all the way, for
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beginners all the way throughadvanced.
They have sleep, differenttypes of sleep meditations.
I'm working on a program rightnow for pain, pain management
meditation.
I have learned some really goodtechniques and I teach
meditation and I'm like, oh, Ididn't even think about that,
you know and does it reduce yourpain?
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It what it's, not that itreduces your pain, but it helps
you not focus on your pain.
So, for example, that's whatled me to my love, my really
passionate love that I have nowof baking which led me to
Pampered Chef is when I'm baking.
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I'm so focused on what I'mdoing, baking wise, that I am
not in, I'm not stuck in my pain.
I get that, so it's kind of likeyou know how morphine doesn't
actually take your pain away,but it makes you not give a
flying rip about it.
It's not the same feeling, butit's a similar idea.
It's a distraction from focuson pain when you are finding
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something else to focus on.
That can really help.
Yeah, it's going to be therewhen you get out of the focus,
but I'll take whatever relief Ican get till I get my back
surgery on first.
Amy Taylor (45:15):
Oh yeah, that's going to be a blessing.
Nikki Williams (45:18):
Yes, it really is.
I know not very many.
Everybody's like I'm so sorryyou have to have surgery and I'm
like I'm not Cause it's goingto help.
Amy Taylor (45:24):
Yeah, you're like thank thankfully yeah.
Nikki Williams (45:28):
But it really has helped, um, in the fact that
when I found out that I don'thave to be stuck in my pain,
half the problem with the painis being so focused on it that
you don't, you can't, focus onanything else.
Very well, yeah, for me, bakingdoes that for and from, and
music does that.
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When I'm singing, I am inanother place, I'm on another
plane of.
That is the truest form for meof what we call the stillness
and the silence, even thoughit's not literal silence, right?
No, I get that.
I'm in a place where I am soconnected to spirit that it's
just flowing.
I'm letting it flow through me.
Amy Taylor (46:08):
Yeah.
That's how it is for melistening to music.
Nikki Williams (46:11):
Yes, yes.
Amy Taylor (46:13):
I never would have made it through the teenage
years without music.
Nikki Williams (46:17):
And I think that's especially true for
people, our age people, thoseGen Xers.
Our music was our solace andour refuge.
Amy Taylor (46:27):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly what I would say.
Nikki Williams (46:30):
It really was.
For some people, it's theirartwork that puts them in that
state.
They've actually done studiesthat show that coloring can put
people in a very similar stateof consciousness as deep
meditation.
Amy Taylor (46:45):
That's fascinating, and they've got a new type of
coloring out.
Have you heard about this?
No, they have a big picture andyou draw the outlines of
everything, like maybe it'sflowers or whatever, but you
don't know what it is until youdraw the outlines on the page.
That's kind of cool.
Yeah, they're on amazon.
Nikki Williams (47:06):
I saw those and was like that is different I'm
always looking for new thingsbecause I do like to color and
I'm always like you've got tohave a creative outlet.
Amy Taylor (47:15):
I think that is really important for that you
can just do without thinking yes, exactly, and that's the point.
Nikki Williams (47:23):
The point is to get out of the thinking, to get
out of your own head, exactlybecause when you're in your head
and you're stuck in there thatit's like, ah, you know, and
then you can't get in touch withthose gifts as well, you can't
open yourself up to receivingthe messages that you, that are
meant for you, because they'renot in your brain.
I mean, I'm sure they inspirethoughts, they inspire things
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like that, but it's deeper thanthat.
A soul communication is deeperthan a mental type of
communication.
So when I say, when we sayclear seeing, it's not a
physical form of seeing,although sometimes it can
definitely seem that way.
It is spiritual sight which cankind of overlay the physical
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sight.
But you know very well that inthe physical 3D reality that's
not what your eyeballs areseeing, right?
Does that make sense?
And the same with hearing, like,I hear the messages, but I know
they're not literally talkingto me.
I'm not actually hearing aperson's voice.
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It is internal, but on a deeperlevel.
Okay, person's voice, it isinternal, but on a deeper level.
Amy Taylor (48:39):
okay, but I, but it puts words to it because I'm
just, I'm a very verbalprocessor, me too, and so
oftentimes people are like whoare you talking to?
Nikki Williams (48:44):
I'm like, well, and I don't want to sit there
and go.
Well, I'm talking to my guides,but I speak out loud to them.
You know we carry onconversations how funny.
Amy Taylor (48:54):
Yeah, my daughter talks to her games all the time
and I'll be in the other roomand I'll go.
Who are you talking to, honey?
I think she's on the phone orsomething.
Nikki Williams (49:02):
She's like my game my oldest daughter used to
talk to her math homework oh,how funny and the other day she
was over here grading papers andshe was talking to her grading.
Amy Taylor (49:12):
Oh, wow, that's great that is great, nikki.
I have really enjoyed ourconversation.
I have learned so much oh thankyou, I've enjoyed it too.
Nikki Williams (49:25):
I love this oh great.
Amy Taylor (49:27):
Is there anything that you'd like to just kind of
leave our audience withsomething you'd like to say as a
last kind of leave them withsomething?
Nikki Williams (49:38):
I would very much like to say to take a deep
breath and let yourself beguided gently by that still
small voice, that still smallvoice inside, to not to just
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freaking.
Stop overthinking everything,because we all do it.
There's no place for self-doubtin the world of spiritual gifts
.
It's not.
Self-doubt is not a spiritualgift right, oh that.
Amy Taylor (50:15):
Oh, that's giving me chills again.
That's tight in thisconversation.
Nikki Williams (50:19):
Oh, sweet, sweet , I love it.
But yeah, learn to trust thatstill small voice because it
isn't going to lead you wrong.
Amy Taylor (50:27):
Right.
Nikki Williams (50:28):
And it does not inspire anxiety.
It might inspire a type of fearthat's a self-preservation type
of fear, like don't walk downthat alley right now, but it's
not the kind that leads to thoseweird intrusive type of
thoughts we talked about earlier.
It's the kind that just goes no, go this way, Take this other
way this time.
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Just kind of directs you.
Yeah, it's gentle, it's agentle type of, and even the
alarm system is like now, hey,let's go this way tonight, you
know.
Hey, maybe you should take thatumbrella with you because it
makes good webbing.
Maybe you should take thatumbrella with you.
You know what, maybe haulsomebody and walk with them.
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You know, maybe make sure yourspare tire is filled with air
today.
Just check that.
You know.
Amy Taylor (51:18):
I think of all the times I have ignored that inner
voice and I need to do that more.
Nikki Williams (51:25):
And I'm sure there are times when you've
ignored that inner voice andyou've thought later I wish I
would have listened to myself ohyes, yeah, and I know we all
have listened to myself yes,yeah, and we all, I know we all
have those times.
And then I know that we all havethose stories where it's like I
knew that was coming.
I felt that was coming and I'mso glad I didn't.
You know, I didn't go that waytoday, Right, I didn't care
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about something happening youknow later, or I'm so glad that
I had to turn around and go getsomething that I left at home.
Amy Taylor (51:54):
And you missed the accident.
Nikki Williams (51:57):
Exactly, exactly , the saving world.
Yeah, it really is.
And when we listen and we payattention to those little subtle
they're very subtlecommunications, yeah, it's not
going to shout at you and whackyou upside the head.
Amy Taylor (52:14):
On the other hand, if you're supposed to be
learning something and youstubbornly don't, it will keep
repeating the lesson over andover again and it gets more
intense each time, until it hitsyou with the cosmic two-by-four
, because about a month ago Iwas drawing Oracle cards on a
daily basis I'm not kidding,daily basis, like I'm not
(52:38):
kidding for like two weeksstraight.
No matter how I mixed that deckand shuffled it, I kept pulling
the oh my, the high priestess,ah.
And I was like what am Isupposed to be getting from this
?
And I talked to my friend, youknow, or tacy, yeah, yeah.
And she said, well, did you getwhat you're supposed to get
from that?
And I said no, and she's likethat's why you keep pulling it.
Nikki Williams (52:58):
You have to sit with that.
You have to sit with that.
Amy Taylor (53:02):
Yeah.
Nikki Williams (53:03):
Let it inspire you, let it reassociate with it
for a while.
Sit down and, when it comes tothe cards, sit down and really
focus on the details of thepicture, things that stand out
that you may not have noticedbefore, animals that might be in
the background, or colors orshapes, or even numbers.
Things will show up that youhaven't noticed before and those
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will be important.
Amy Taylor (53:27):
I'll have to try that.
All right, Nikki.
Well, thank you again.
I really enjoyed you coming onthe show today.
Nikki Williams (53:33):
Oh, I really enjoyed being here and I enjoyed
your Pampered Chef Party.
Amy Taylor (53:36):
You were a great host by the way, that was really
fun.
Had a great time.
It was fun and I will put yourinformation in the show notes so
that anybody else who'sinterested in the Pampered Chef
Party can sign up.
Nikki Williams (53:48):
The Psychic Pampered Chef Party.
Yes, I believe you need an ovenand air fryer yeah, hey, I got
mine coming.
Amy Taylor (53:58):
I'm excited.
Nikki Williams (53:59):
I'm excited too.
I'm excited too.
All right, thank you so much,amy, I've really had fun oh, me
too.
Amy Taylor (54:05):
Hey everyone, it's Amy again just popping in to
wrap things up.
Wow, wasn't that an incrediblechat with Nikki.
I hope you all enjoyed it asmuch as I did.
She's got such a fun and uniqueoutlook on the world and I love
how she can just roll withanything and everything, from
tarot to pampered chef parties.
If you're curious about Nikki'swork or you want to know more
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about those cool pampered chefgoodies, I'll drop all her info
in the show notes.
Seriously, you won't want tomiss out.
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Keep advancing, warriors.
Thank you.
Welcome back to Advancing with Amy, mental
Health Warrior and Neuro SpicyMama.
It's Amy here and I'm superexcited about today's episode
because I have a very specialguest joining me, my longtime
friend, Nikki Williams.
Nikki and I go way back we'retalking high school days way
back and fun pampered chefparties kind of back.
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She's one of the mostfascinating people I know.
Nikki is neurodivergent and sheshares about her OCD and
intrusive thoughts as well, butshe's also a singer, a community
theater enthusiast and apsychic extraordinaire.
She's got some seriously coolstories and insights to share
about tarot, astrology andtapping into your inner
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intuition.
Plus, she's got a knack forturning everyday moments into
something magical.
Trust me, you're going to loveher as much as I do.
So sit back, relax and let'sdive into the world of
spirituality and a bit ofkitchen fun with Nikki.
All right, we're here withNikki Williams today and welcome
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Nikki.
Hi, amy, it's good to be, here.
Yeah, Nikki is a longtime friendof mine.
We went to high school togetherand we just did a pampered chef
party together.
Nikki Williams (01:18):
Yes, we did.
Amy Taylor (01:18):
It was so much fun it was it was, and I got some
good stuff that says it's comingMonday.
Nikki Williams (01:24):
Oh, that's great .
I do think the air fryer ovensare on back order, so be aware
of that.
Amy Taylor (01:30):
I was told that, but then it says it's coming.
Nikki Williams (01:33):
Oh great, wonderful.
Mine did not get here today,but it should be soon.
Thanks to your party, I earneda free oven and air fryer.
Oh yay.
Amy Taylor (01:43):
That's awesome.
Well, it was very fun, so youdo a lot of fun things.
Nikki Williams (01:49):
I do.
Amy Taylor (01:50):
Yeah, you want to tell us a little bit about the
fun things you do.
Nikki Williams (01:54):
Oh my gosh.
Well, of course, as you know,I'm doing the Pampered Chef
thing now, which is a ball.
I'm passionate about that.
I'm also a singer.
I also do community theater andthings like that.
I have one right behind myhouse, actually, so that worked
out nicely.
And I am a psychic, Wow yeah.
And in that umbrella term ofpsychic we're talking
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clairvoyance, clairaudience,clairsentience.
I'm a medical intuitive.
I'm also a natal astrologer.
I've been drawing up birthcharts since I was nine years
old and I'm a Reiki master,which is a Japanese form of
energy healing.
I'm an empath.
That kind of goes along withsome interesting psychological
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issues we can delve into at somepoint.
Amy Taylor (02:44):
Along with some interesting psychological issues
we can delve into at some point.
Nikki Williams (02:46):
But along with being clairvoyant, it kind of
goes in the same territory.
I'm a medium as well.
I don't usually do a lot ofmediumship work because spirits
don't shut up.
Amy Taylor (03:00):
Now tell me what's the difference between medium
and psychic?
Nikki Williams (03:03):
Well, a medium is someone who can communicate
with spirits, whether they bepeople who have passed or
whether they be spirit guides,angelic beings, nature spirits.
It can be any form of I guesswe'll call it paranormal
communication, and it kind ofalso goes with the clairaudience
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you can see and hear.
So the clairvoyant means clearseeing, which is funny because
I'm blind, but I see things thatother people in general do not
see, including auras.
Amy Taylor (03:46):
I see people's auras and chakras and meridian points
, other types of energy centersand, yeah, have you been able to
do all this since you wereyoung?
You said you started nine withthe natal charts.
But yeah, or good stuff, didthat come early on?
Nikki Williams (03:58):
I have always, and I and I didn't know.
Here's an interesting thingI've always always seen and
spoken to other beings orspirits, I guess we will call
them.
I was always told they were myimaginary friends.
When I was really little.
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I've always seen, seen aurasaround people and I would ask,
like my parents, I'm like do yousee the, the, the colors around
?
And they're like uh, what areyou talking about?
I also I have something called,and there's been an interesting
book about that.
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Oh, what is the word for it?
It is, it's a sensory type ofissue where, for example, you
can see feelings or you can hearthem, or there's a word for
this and I can't think of itright now, but there's a book
about it called Monday is a BlueDay, which it is.
Monday is blue, very much.
So.
I asked my mom one time if shecould see her headaches, because
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I was having a lot of headacheswhen I hit puberty, you know
like hormone induced typemigraines, and I could see them.
I could tell you the shape ofthem and the color of them, and
she was like no, but my fathersaid, well, yeah, I know what
that is.
So I think that might have.
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So, he knew.
It's kind of a sensoryintegration type of issue where
the senses kind of overlap eachother, and I've always done
interesting things like astraltravel, even as a kid, just by
accident.
Things like astral travel, evenas a kid, just by accident, I
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would be somewhere, completesomewhere else completely, but
yet physically I would be here.
Was that scary?
Huh, was that ever scary?
Yeah, it's been more scary asan adult.
As a kid I was just like, okay,well, I'm just, you know
somewhere, and then it'd be likeearth to Nikki wait what?
And you have the sensation ofliterally snapping back into
your own body.
But I didn't know that's whatthat was, because I didn't grow
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up in a family where any of thatwas really explored or much
less condoned, because I didgrow up Baptist.
Um, but but my mom had is theone that developed the interest
in astrology and she bought abook I don't remember the name
of it, but by an astrologernamed Linda Goodman, who I love.
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She passed away a long time ago, I think in the 90s Still one
of my favorite astrology authorsto this day but she had a book
and you could learn to draw upnatal charts with this book and
my mom was like you should seeif you can make anything out of
this, because she didn't get itand I literally sat down and
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went oh yeah, I know how to dothis and started doing the math
and everything and drawing upbirth charts, like it was second
nature, which I think all ofthis really is for most people
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that express any type of psychicor occult science gift.
It's kind of an eight and allchildren, for example, are
inherently spiritually giftedbut unfortunately society just
kind of trains that out of youyou're taught no matter what to
doubt yourself.
Yeah, that's, and that transtranscends just psychic issues.
We're all, unfortunately,taught as we get older we'll
always second guess yourself,always doubt that, that inherent
, intuitive, still small voiceoh yeah, did you ever question
your mental health, or didanybody else Um?
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uh, I think that I grew up in atime period where, well, first
of all, girls were never, hardlyever, diagnosed with anything.
You had boys that werediagnosed as quote unquote,
hyperactive and about that timethey were given out Ritalin.
But I was always a bit of aproblem kid in school, not as
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far as being mean or beingrotten, but I was the kid who
couldn't focus very ADHD of me.
I ended up in the hallway allthe time because I was a
distraction.
I was the kid who got talks toomuch, doodling in the margins,
all that kind of stuff.
But nobody really everquestioned my mental health.
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As far as wondering if I hadsome type of.
I had some type of diagnosablecondition, I did go through a
very severe time of depressionwhen I was about sixth, seventh,
eighth grade.
A lot of it had to do withbullying.
I was definitely different,extremely different, and my
mother always said I was thesquare peg trying to fit into
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the round hole.
Now, with my youngest daughter,my youngest daughter is on the
spectrum and I see so much ofmyself in her and I forget the
name of the test.
There's a test that you cantake.
It's even online, where itgives you the likelihood of
whether you are on the autismspectrum and I scored about off
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the charts.
I was incredibly immature andsocially awkward, and those were
the words used at the time.
You know that was.
That was in the eighties.
Amy Taylor (09:34):
Well, yeah, my daughter, my youngest child, my
daughter is autistic as well andand I've questioned whether I
am or not I never felt like Ibelonged.
I always felt like everybodyelse knew something I didn't.
Nikki Williams (09:49):
Yeah, I kind of felt that way myself and I
thought I should belong.
I tried to.
Amy Taylor (09:54):
Right.
Nikki Williams (09:54):
I really did.
I didn't grow up in an uncaringhome.
We had our own issues, but,like my mom is awesome.
You know my mom Amazing.
Yeah, she is an amazing womanand it's thanks to her that I
didn't completely abandon thesespiritual gifts, because she was
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exploring and questioning alittle bit herself just in that
area of astrology.
She's always thought that wasinteresting and it's kind of
because of that that I startedto delve further and further
into.
I started with that and then Ijust started reading more on
different subjects and then,when I was 17 years old my very
best friend at the time I don'tknow if she her name was Erica
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she gave me my very first tarotdeck and I literally sat down
and did a reading for her, rightthere.
Amy Taylor (10:45):
You didn't even have to read the book, did you?
Nikki Williams (10:53):
No, and you're not really.
I mean, you can read the book,but that's not really how tarot
works.
Tarot is supposed to beinterpretive.
It has some general guidelineshere and there, but it's
supposed to be more inspired bythings like free association.
It's supposed to be moreinspired by things like free
association, and because thelanguage of spirit is very
symbolic in nature and likedreams, dreams are very symbolic
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in nature.
They are not meant to be takenliterally.
Once in a blue moon, yeah,you'll have something.
That's very precognitive.
I've had those dreams beforeand that can be scary, but
frequently.
For example, I know when Idream about earthquakes it
doesn't mean literal earthquakes, but it does mean that things
are about to go really sidewayson probably a global scale.
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Needless to say, I've had a lotof earthquake dreams lately.
Amy Taylor (11:40):
I can see that.
Nikki Williams (11:42):
And tornado dreams tend to be tied more to
personal emotional chaos for me.
Amy Taylor (11:50):
Do you just figure that out after having the dream,
and then those things happenenough times.
Nikki Williams (11:56):
Yeah, and that one I started figuring out when
I was a terror of tornadoes.
I don't have that fear anymore,I overcame that, but I was,
literally up until my late 20s,early 30s, petrified.
It was a phobia for me, but I'dhad so many dreams.
And then I started to delveinto a little bit more dream
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interpretation and realized thatit was very similar to tarot
interpretation, that thesymbolic language speaks mainly
to the right, that more rightbrain and I know that's an
outdated perspective, but thatmore right brain, what we
typically use to associate withthat perspective, the more
symbology and that it needed thefree association in order for
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that other part of the brain togo.
Oh, oh, that's making sense now.
Okay, and when I talk to people,when I'm giving them readings
and we talk about their dreams,we talk about I'm saying, all
right, you got to keep a dreamjournal first of all.
Secondly, you need to sit downand write it down immediately.
When you get a, when you have adream that really sticks, it's
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going to stick with you, wake upbefore you go to the bathroom
or anything, write it down, thenyou leave it alone and you come
back to it like two weeks laterand you read through it and you
let that inspire some freeassociation, and then you let
that lead you in the directionof something that makes sense.
Oftentimes, like numbers willrepeat themselves or they'll
stand out, or words or colors orspecific imagery.
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But you know like, for example,when we dream usually when we
dream about other people theyaren't actually those other
people.
They tend to represent aspectsof ourself.
Now we're getting into someinteresting Jungian type of
dream interpretation.
Amy Taylor (13:40):
Yeah, you know, I always think I'm going to
remember the dream, so I don'tneed to write it down because
it's so clear.
At the time I think, how can Iforget this?
And then it's gone.
Nikki Williams (13:52):
Yeah, Later on you come back and you go ah, I
know, I dropped something, Iknow it.
But you get so caught up in theday-to-day hustle and bustle of
life.
You've got so many things thatyour prefrontal cortex is trying
to prioritize Emphasis on theword trying and you have these
things that you have toprioritize in waking life for
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survival more than anything.
You've got to go to work, you'vegot to make the money, you've
got to make food, you've got to.
You know you got to pay thebills, you got to do this, that
and the other.
And it's no wonder that thingslike that get lost, because
they're not really part oflong-term memory, they're more
stuck there in the workingmemory, which is fleeting.
Amy Taylor (14:34):
Yeah, that's interesting.
So do you think that yourneurodivergence feeds into all
of your gifts?
Nikki Williams (14:44):
I think it does.
I think that one is part of theother.
Obviously, because thingsappear differently to me and
because I can feel the mood in aroom, because I can see the
colors that are around peopleand things like that, I'm going
to have a different perspectiveand that perspective is going to
feed the way I behave.
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And when it comes toneurodivergence, it's all more
about behavior than anything,but it's also about perspective
and perception as well.
I always say that perception isabout nine-tenths of reality
and the other tenth is unlimitedpossibility.
Oh, I love that I get all ofthis input.
And, first of all, I don'tbelieve in destiny.
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I don't believe in it.
I believe in choices.
Now, I do believe that therethat stuff happens.
I believe that we are dealt acertain hand of cards.
You can't control most of thethings that are happening but
you can control you what you dowith it.
So life is about choices.
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So I try and I've learned overtime I mean, 51 years is a
decent amount of time, thisplanet.
So I have, and I think I'vegotten a little better at it.
I hope anyway that I can takethose differences in perception
and perspective and now I canuse them to make more informed
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choices and to help other peoplemake more informed choices,
which is what I try to focus onwhen I read for someone, whether
it be sitting down and gettingmessages from people who have
passed, or whether I'm readingtarot, which I do almost
everything along with tarot I'mreading tarot, which I do all of
almost everything, along withtarot.
I call my version of readingtarot.
I call it holistic tarot,because I look at the whole
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picture.
I use my clairvoyance, myclairaudience, my clairsentience
, I use my medical intuition.
I use all of these differentgifts, plus my knowledge of
astrology and all of thesedifferent things and my
mediumship, and I channel thatthrough the symbology of tarot
and I just put it all togetherto bring these messages to
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people.
But I always try to emphasizeit's still about your choice.
If I tell you something youdon't like and I am not the kind
of person to sugarcoat anything.
That's also one of the thingsthat always got me in trouble is
that I'm relatively blunt, butI tell people if you don't like
what I tell you, if you don'tlike what I'm seeing nine times
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out of 10, you have the abilityto change it.
I can't stand when people comeback to me and go oh, you said
this horrible thing was going tohappen and it did.
I'm like, but I told you that,so it wouldn't.
Amy Taylor (17:21):
Right.
Nikki Williams (17:25):
You know, I told you this was the wrong guy for
you so you could get out of thatrelationship because you were
going to get hurt.
Right, you know, and it's like,but unfortunately and this
happens with I'm going to usethis as an example this was many
years ago.
I was reading for someone andthey sat down with a friend of
theirs.
Now, when people sit together,their auras change, and
especially if they're closetheirs.
Now, when people sit together,their auras change, and
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especially if they're close goodfriends, married people,
siblings they merge and createan entirely new field of energy.
And they sat down.
I saw this red light, intense,painful red that came into this
aura and goes from the right tothe left, came in from the right
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, goes up and I got horriblechest pains.
Horrible because that's part ofmedical intuition, as you can
even feel other people's stuffand I can take things forward in
time and backwards in time, seewhat caused it or see where
it's headed.
I don't diagnose things, but Isee energy signatures.
But what I told them, both saidI'm not sure which one of you
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this refers to because there'stoo much energy for both of you
going on, but both of you takeyourself to the doctor, have
your heart checked.
This is serious stuff.
This is serious stuff.
I saw the one person that theone person I was reading for two
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months later at a diner, justchance meeting, and they said I
asked how they were doing andthey said you gave a reading to
me, my friend, and I to myself,but my friend was with me and
you told us about this potentialcardiac problem.
Amy Taylor (19:02):
I said yeah, I remember.
Nikki Williams (19:04):
And they said well, I went to the doctor and
got checked out and everything'sfine, but they did not take the
advice and they passed away ofa heart attack just a few weeks
ago.
I'm like oh, my God, and, and Iwas in my probably mid thirties
at the time and I hadn't dealtwith anything that serious yet,
and it devastated me.
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I almost quit reading.
Amy Taylor (19:27):
I was just going to say that's a life changing kind
of event.
Nikki Williams (19:31):
It was.
And then I sat with it, Imeditated Meditation very
important for developing yourspiritual gifts.
On the side note, I sat with it, I meditated on it and the
message I got was you did whatyou were supposed to do.
You gave them the message.
You cannot control whether ornot they do anything about it.
Amy Taylor (19:56):
That makes sense to me and I've always thought.
I've always heard with tarotcards that it's not telling your
future.
It's saying this is the pathyou're on.
If you decide to stay on thispath, this could happen.
Nikki Williams (20:09):
Yes, or if you go this other way, this could be
the outcome.
These are potential outcomes.
Now, sometimes you can get aclear yes and no and you can get
a pretty clear answer.
The more specific yourquestions, the more specific the
answers are going to be.
I can sit down and give a greatgeneral reading, but it's going
to go wherever spirit wants itto go, not necessarily where the
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querent wants it to go.
Right, yeah, Because oftentimespeople have oh my Lord, I'm
rolling my eyes right now, butyou get so many love life
questions.
Amy Taylor (20:43):
Oh, I bet, and it's just now, but you get so many
love life questions.
Nikki Williams (20:46):
Oh, I bet, and it's just like.
Obviously you need to work onyourself, or you wouldn't be
asking me about this.
Where's the right person?
Amy Taylor (21:00):
Well, first of all, you have to be the right person
for yourself.
My mom used to tell me all thetime when I'd ask her, why can't
I find somebody, she'd say, amy, you have to love yourself
first.
And I always thought that wassuch a bunch of BS.
And then later, when I finallylearned to love myself, I was
like, oh, that's what she meant.
Nikki Williams (21:18):
Yes, I always use the analogy of the flight
attendant that says if we losecabin pressure and the oxygen
masks drop down from the ceiling, put yours on first.
Yes, before helping the peoplearound you, because you cannot
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help them if you're passed outfrom oxygen deprivation.
Amy Taylor (21:42):
Right, you're no good.
Nikki Williams (21:45):
Yeah, you can be no good to anybody else if
you're not good to and foryourself.
And that delves into a wholelot of this too.
I mean this we could go on forhours.
Amy Taylor (21:55):
Oh, I'm sure so.
Have you ever had a reading tomake you just laugh?
Nikki Williams (22:02):
Oh God, so many Really, I don't even know.
I mean now sometimes, sometimes.
I get some wackadoodle out there, questions, but I have had some
that I got so tickled aboutbecause I God there's been so
many.
I'm trying to think of aspecific example because, oddly
enough, those are not the onesthat stick with you as much.
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Oh okay, but there have beentimes when my querens and I have
been in stitches like I havealmost literally fallen on the
floor from laughing so hard, andit usually just has to do with
something I see coming their way, like, for example, I
frequently will see when a childis coming into someone's life
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and sometimes I get the coolestbecause these little souls
already exist in the ether andthey will come through and be
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like and some of them are justso you know, ornery, mischievous
little souls that are showingme little glimpses of what their
personality is going to be likeand how they're going to be.
And I'm like, oh my Lord, thiskid is a corker, this is the kid
that quietly plays thepractical jokes but then looks
at you like who?
Me?
You know, you just get sotickled.
Or I will sometimes run acrossthe spirit of someone who's
passed.
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Grandpas are like this a lot.
They tend to be the more orneryones and they'll come through,
yeah, frequently sayingsomething that they said in life
.
So they can.
This is how they're going toknow it's me and they get these
mischievous little grins andmaybe pull on somebody's ear, or
you know, know, it's me andthey get these mischievous
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little grins and maybe pull onsomebody's ear, or you know, and
it's like what, and then I'vehad some downright scary ones.
Ooh, I've had some.
Well, I think the issue withthe heart attack is probably the
most.
Amy Taylor (23:58):
Yeah, that's severe.
Nikki Williams (24:00):
Yeah, now, I haven't had any type of horribly
horrible entities come throughbecause, in all honesty, there
isn't such a thing, right,because all there is, when you
boil down to it, is love.
Amy Taylor (24:15):
Yes, god is love.
Nikki Williams (24:17):
Whatever you see as God, the universe, I don't
care what word you use for it,in the end there's only love,
and there is so much stigma andI will blame a lot of it on
certain monotheistic religion.
There's so much stigma around,oh yeah, oh, demonic possession.
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No, no, no, no, no.
That is not how this works.
A lot of these things thatpeople get that come through,
that are negative, are thoughtforms.
And in, in astral, in spirit, inthe ether, all these different
words for it.
Thoughts are real, and if youput negative energy out there,
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that's what you're going tocreate.
Amy Taylor (25:01):
Right, you're giving power to those thoughts.
Nikki Williams (25:03):
Yes, that's what you're going to create, right,
you're giving power to thosethoughts, yes, and then you are
creating the form of the thoughtthat you have put out there,
and you've got to be carefulwith that.
However, actual beings, actualentities, whether spiritual or
otherwise, are not demonic orevil or anything like that.
It's not how it works and,oddly, we could really get into
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some interesting discussionsabout death and what happens
after you die and things likethat, because that's nothing
like most people think it is.
I will tell you that a lot ofpeople who have the gift of
mediumship are misdiagnosed,with disorders like
schizophrenia Schizophreniabeing a very, very real
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diagnosis.
Amy Taylor (25:47):
Right.
Nikki Williams (25:47):
And a friend of my daughter's had been diagnosed
with this many, many, manyyears ago as a child.
She came to my house.
I'm a pagan and we celebratethe wheel of the year and one of
our big time celebrations isthe winter solstice, yule, and
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we do.
My family at my house, we havecelebrated Yule every year and
sometimes we invite close, closefriends over and things like
that for our Yule celebration.
And I do a Yule ritual, I dowhat's called calling the
quarters and I bless everythingand I cleanse the space.
And one of the things that I dowhen I'm blessing and I'm like
no spirits or anything, nothoughts, nothing can come into
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this space without being of goodintention.
Only good and pure thoughts,and that's it.
You know that's beautiful.
Yeah, only good and purethoughts, and that's it.
You know that's beautiful, yeah, well, this young lady and I
think that my daughters wereearly in high school at the time
this young lady, after we wereall done, the celebration was
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over, after I closed the circleand everything, she said that's
the first time in my life Ihaven't heard the voices.
And I said honey, that'sbecause you're not schizophrenic
, you're a medium.
I kept spirit in general.
I kept spirits out of my circle.
I didn't want anythingdistracting from the energy we
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were trying to raise, fromfocusing on the good that comes
with the returning of the sun.
Little days getting longerthat's what the soul says about
the return of light in a time ofdark, darkness and change your
whole future yeah, and, and sheit did.
She's a practicing pagan herselfnow and it just completely
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changed her perspective and shewas able to get control of that
gift.
Amy Taylor (27:44):
Oh, I got chills.
That's so cool.
Nikki Williams (27:46):
And I was like that's mediumship You're going
to.
When you have a very clearmediumship gift.
You're going to hear messagesand things from your spirit,
guides and stuff, and that caneasily be misinterpreted.
Amy Taylor (28:00):
And that was a question I was going to ask you
how do you distinguish betweenintuition and intrusive thoughts
or just overthinking something?
Nikki Williams (28:11):
Intrusive thoughts tend to snowball.
Okay, they also tend to bereally
whack-a-doodle-off-the-wallthoughts, like real intrusive
thoughts.
I have obsessive compulsivedisorder, so I deal with this on
a regular basis.
The actual intrusive thoughtsExample you can be doing
something totally normal, makingmacaroni and cheese.
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I really don't want to put thisin anybody's head, but I'm
going to.
Anyway.
I'm going to give you anexample of an intrusive thought
that I had while at dinner thatspawned my ritualistic behaviors
that I have to do in order toquell the anxiety from obsessive
compulsive disorder.
I'm making macaroni and cheese,just homemade macaroni and
cheese.
I've made it a million times.
(28:53):
Suddenly, what I see notliterally see, but in my mind-
is a bunch of roach eggshatching in the macaroni and
cheese and this massive amountof cockroaches crawling out of
my macaroni and I'm like and Igo into immediate panic it's not
.
I know it's not happening.
I know it's not a realisticfear.
I know it's my mind playingtricks on me, because that's not
(29:16):
a thing that's going to behappening.
You know, particularly since I'mboiling stuff on the stove and
things like that.
But the fear is real.
The fear is overwhelming.
You can't make the intrusivethought go away with logic and
reason.
You have to find a way to quellthe anxiety when you have
obsessive compulsive disorder.
Hence the compulsion.
The obsession is the intrusivethought.
(29:37):
The compulsion is theritualistic behavior that
follows.
That's how you define obsessivecompulsive disorder, not the
same as obsessive compulsivedisorder, not the same as
obsessive personality disorder.
That's a completely differentthing.
But the compulsive behavior hasto be engaged in order to make
the intrusive thought, anxiety,go away.
Okay, now, that's an intrusivethought.
(29:58):
The difference between that andintuition, the difference
between that and intuitionIntuition is a still.
There's a stillness tointuition.
Does that make sense?
Yes, there's a sense of.
My grandmother used to call itand it's actually in biblical
scripture called it the gift ofknowing.
Amy Taylor (30:19):
Okay, yeah.
Nikki Williams (30:19):
This is not a guess, this is not a possibility
.
Does that make sense?
I mean, it is a possibility.
But, there's like no, I knowthis, I know this.
And well, how do you know that?
I can't explain this?
Because I know, I just knowwhen I have that sense of
knowing it's not wrong, it'snever wrong.
(30:42):
Now, there are times when I getlost in interpretations and I
might go because I'm human, I'mnot God, you know like I might
get lost in the interpretationand wander down the wrong path
and usually, if I'm listening,spirit's going to go back this
way, get back on the path, Comeon.
But that sense of knowing thatcomes with true intuition.
(31:04):
That's different than theanxiety of intrusive thoughts.
That makes sense.
The anxiety is the what if.
The what if game is not part ofintuition.
Amy Taylor (31:18):
I gotcha.
Yeah, that makes complete sense.
Have you ever had a messagethat came through that you
didn't want to share withsomeone?
Nikki Williams (31:28):
Um, let me think I'm pretty sure I have.
I mean, there are times when Ijust go, not doing it, find
somebody else, because themessages you get from those
who've crossed over, for example, you don't have to pass them on
.
Now, sometimes, if I'm readingfor somebody and a message does
(31:49):
come through, I will give it tothem.
Amy Taylor (31:52):
Okay.
Nikki Williams (31:53):
There are things you don't do ethically.
You don't tell somebody if yousee if they're going to die.
You don't do that Completelyunethical and nobody's meant to
actually truly know that.
You know now you can do what Idid and say somebody needs to
get to the doctor.
Right, I'm feeling the symptomsof heart attack.
(32:13):
I don't know which one of youthat is because there's just too
much energy and I'm overwhelmedby it.
But just get checked out,because when I got that message
I was supposed to pass it on.
I had to pass it on in orderbecause it was a preventable
medical emergency.
(32:34):
Yes, that could have beenstopped.
That could have been stopped.
Somebody gets a heart cath,they get a stent, something to
that effect, but that's not howthat ended up being,
unfortunately.
Amy Taylor (32:46):
I know, that's so sad.
Nikki Williams (32:48):
But there are times once in a while it's not
really very common, but I havereceived some messages that I'm
not.
It's not that I don't want topass them on, but I'm not going
to go through the hullabaloo tofind the person and do that.
That's not what I do and I getto control that, because the
(33:11):
cool thing about being living iswe have domain.
We have dominion over life.
We have dominion over ourphysical time and space.
Amy Taylor (33:23):
So does that mean you can like you did that ritual
, you can turn it off.
Nikki Williams (33:29):
It's not that I turn it off, I just I never.
I can't ever turn mine offbecause I've literally walked
with one foot on each side ofthat veil.
But I can ignore it and go.
I'm really good at going, youknow, I'm going to do this.
Instead, we'll put this on theback burner.
It's kind of like backgroundnoise then.
Amy Taylor (33:48):
Right.
Nikki Williams (33:49):
One of the I know that I cover my hair, I
wrap my, I wrap my hair.
Part of that is anxiety control.
It's really good, it's like aweighted vest, but it's on my
head, it's a head hug.
Part of that actually comesfrom Kundalini yoga.
Head wrapping is a globaltradition, shared for many
(34:09):
different reasons, but inKundalini it covers the crown
chakra, which helps cover thatpsychic antenna a little bit and
tune out extra psychic noise.
Oh wow, so you can focus better.
It really does help me too.
I'm not saying it helpseverybody, but it for me.
Amy Taylor (34:25):
It is dodson plus it's pretty, so that's nice yeah
, they are pretty, but that kindof grounds you and yeah it
really does, because I wearshoes to keep my feet on the
ground.
Nikki Williams (34:37):
I'm sure you remember me from high school.
I was a freshman when you werea senior and you were probably
very much like that Nikki,Because everybody was kind of
like that Nikki.
Amy Taylor (34:47):
I don't know.
No, I just remember you had anincredible voice.
Nikki Williams (34:51):
Oh, thank you.
Amy Taylor (34:54):
And that's coming from you, because you have an
incredible voice.
Nikki Williams (34:56):
I remember you making all-state choir and I was
like I want to do that someday.
And I did, I did, I followed, Ifollowed an amy's book, oh yay
that's awesome yeah and I was inannie with you and you were
fantastic oh, thank you.
Amy Taylor (35:10):
Yeah, I miss those days.
I see you singing now at churchand I'm like, oh, she's still
doing it.
I wish I was.
Nikki Williams (35:16):
Well, you need to come sing with me sometime.
Yeah, I really enjoy it theretoo.
Now sometimes I sing at UnitySoutheast, but I frequently sing
at Unity Village Chapel.
I'll be singing there at Easterand yeah, it's a really very
open and embracing community.
It's not a traditionalChristian type of place.
Amy Taylor (35:37):
It's.
I would call it unity inOverland Park.
Nikki Williams (35:41):
Yeah, it's very.
They're very open, they're veryinteresting combination of many
paths and pretty much, and thewhole thing of we embrace all
spiritual practices and thediversity of paths that lead to
enlightenment.
Amy Taylor (35:56):
That's what I liked is I could go on Sunday and I
might hear what Buddha had tosay, or I might hear what Mother
Teresa had to say, or I mighthear from the Bible, or you just
didn't know.
It was always interesting.
Nikki Williams (36:11):
Yeah, it really is, and we're doing like small
group things now and I'm a partof a small group and we'd go out
.
We do it on via zoom and wehave a very large online
community.
That's also membership, butthat's beside the point.
It's a group called pen andsoul and it's a creative writing
group and exploring how to seethe world through different
(36:34):
characters, how to see the worldthrough different characters,
and we do little, just theselittle writing exercises, all
based on the same thing, butseeing each other's different
perspective.
That's interesting.
Like one time we wrote from theperspective of a cherry blossom
.
Oh, wow, and it was a cherryblossom that was being touched
by a little blind boy.
(36:54):
Oh, and it was the coolestthing.
It was deep man, sounds like it, but I'm sorry, I got
sidetracked.
Amy Taylor (37:06):
That's OK, but I have a question for you.
You do all these wonderfulreadings for people.
Can you do it for people inyour family and yourself?
Can you see what's going on foryou?
Nikki Williams (37:17):
That is a lot harder to do, and actually I
make it a point not to doreadings for people I know
extremely well or for myself,because I can't be objective and
most of us don't read forourselves or for people close to
us for the same reason, wefrequently will go well, that
can't be right, no, no, no,that's got to mean something
(37:39):
else, because you see what youwant to see for that person as
opposed to what is, and it'smuch harder to take the
self-doubt and the subjectiveviewpoint out of the equation
when you're reading for somebodyclose to you, when, especially
for yourself, especially, it'sreally.
(38:00):
And now there are a few people,I think, who do that, but they
tend to read much more literalinterpretive readings for
themselves.
So instead of interpretingspiritually, they'll sit down
with the actual book and look upthe actual meaning.
Amy Taylor (38:17):
That's what I do with oracle cards.
Nikki Williams (38:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know a lot of people who do that
with oracle and I do it betterwith oracle cards for myself
than I do with tarot, but I likeoracle cards.
I love that.
There are a lot of wonderfuloracles.
I have a dear friend namedSapphire Moonbeam and she has
the most beautiful oracle deckcalled moonbeam magic, which you
(38:41):
can buy.
You can buy, I gotta look it upbecause I collect tarot cards
and oracle cards oh yeah, me too, me too, but they are gorgeous
and I I was a part of herkickstarter program, so I got
that the deck.
As for being one of theKickstarters, this was way back
when I want to say probably atleast six or seven years ago and
(39:01):
it is the most stunning.
It's her own personal artwork.
She does energy.
Art is what she calls it.
She's a self-taught artist andthese cards are stunningly
beautiful and she really, trulyput her soul into this,
including writing the book forit herself, and it's just.
(39:23):
It's a wonderful deck.
Amy Taylor (39:26):
It's wonderful I know there's a lady named hattie
and I can't remember her lastname right now.
I have to look.
Hattie thorn, have you everheard?
Yeah, I think I have.
Nikki Williams (39:34):
Yeah she has some beautiful cards and I can't
remember her last name rightnow.
I have to look, hattie Thorne.
Amy Taylor (39:36):
Have you ever heard of her?
Yeah, I think I have.
Yeah, she has some beautifulcards and I don't know if she
does them herself or if she doesAI, but they're gorgeous and
I've got a few of her sets.
They're not cheap but they'rereally nice.
Nikki Williams (39:50):
My current deck of tarot that I use and I don't
remember the author, but thecurrent one that I use on a
regular basis for reading likeit fares is called the Chrysalis
Tarot and it's this beautifuloverarching theme of
transformation and you can seeit in the artwork.
(40:13):
It's very butterfly inspired.
But, it's also uses a lot of, alot of mythological like in its
influences as far as the imagery, different gods and goddesses
and from many differentmythologies, particularly in the
major arcana.
It's got, it's, it's just andit's stunningly beautiful.
Everybody who's it sounds likeoh my gosh, I love your deck.
(40:35):
I'm like thank you, I didn'tmake it Right have you ever made
a deck.
No, I have no artistic giftwhatsoever.
When it comes to things likethat, I mean just none.
I can't draw a circle.
It looks like an amoeba withgas.
Amy Taylor (40:49):
Me either.
My sister and my daughter havethe most incredible art talents,
but it skipped me completely.
Nikki Williams (40:58):
That's how I am.
My sister is an incredibleartist and both my girls are
wonderful artists, and italready looks like my little
granddaughter is quite the gift,but not me.
Nope, nope, I got all the otherthings.
Amy Taylor (41:12):
I got the musical gifts and the acting gift, but
now I can't draw to save my life, you've got a lot of gifts, so
you did pretty well.
So what would you say to aperson that was trying to lean
into their own insights andtheir own?
You know what I mean.
Nikki Williams (41:31):
Yes, yes.
The first thing I would say isdevelop a meditation practice.
You don't have to be good at it.
Meditation is one of thesereally cool things that is
beneficial, no matter how goodyou are at it, no matter how
long you do it.
You can sit down and just dobreath work for a couple of
(41:53):
minutes a day.
And number one it's excellentfor stress relief.
Number two it's actuallyhealing on multiple levels,
including physically.
Amy Taylor (42:09):
Number three it's also really good for lowering
your blood pressure.
Nikki Williams (42:11):
And number four it opens you up to receiving, to
start receiving those messagesmore clearly.
Whether you are clairvoyant ornot, clairaudient, clairsentient
, whatever it is, you cannotreceive these messages, at least
in the beginning, with all thenoise in your brain constantly
(42:34):
going.
You've got to find a way totone it down a little bit.
And breath work is great,because what is the one thing
that we are always doing?
We're breathing.
Right, you can live for acouple of weeks without food, a
couple of days without water.
You can't live for more than afew minutes without oxygen, and
(42:55):
that breath is rhythmic.
It's something you can alwaysbring your focus to.
Now, that doesn't mean just go,I will not think.
No, you're going to think,thoughts are going to happen.
It's okay.
You let them come in and thenyou let them pass and go.
All right, did I leave thestove on?
You know what?
I'll find out in five minutes,because right now I'm breathing
(43:16):
and that feels really good tobreathe.
And I always tell people tobreathe through their nose and
out of their mouth and throughtheir nose, because that's your
filter and you breathe out ofyour mouth so you're not
exhaling the carbon dioxide toyour nose.
Amy Taylor (43:33):
That makes sense.
Nikki Williams (43:35):
But your nose is your filter.
You're going exhaling thecarbon dioxide to your nose that
makes sense, but your nose isyour filter.
You're going to filter the airbetter that way and then
breathing it out through yourmouth.
Okay, but yeah, and you can do.
There's two apps I really likefor meditation.
One is Calm.
It's a good one, but myfavorite is called Balance, and
they have some fantastic wholeprograms all the way, for
(43:59):
beginners all the way throughadvanced.
They have sleep, differenttypes of sleep meditations.
I'm working on a program rightnow for pain, pain management
meditation.
I have learned some really goodtechniques and I teach
meditation and I'm like, oh, Ididn't even think about that,
you know and does it reduce yourpain?
(44:20):
It what it's, not that itreduces your pain, but it helps
you not focus on your pain.
So, for example, that's whatled me to my love, my really
passionate love that I have nowof baking which led me to
Pampered Chef is when I'm baking.
(44:41):
I'm so focused on what I'mdoing, baking wise, that I am
not in, I'm not stuck in my pain.
I get that, so it's kind of likeyou know how morphine doesn't
actually take your pain away,but it makes you not give a
flying rip about it.
It's not the same feeling, butit's a similar idea.
It's a distraction from focuson pain when you are finding
(45:02):
something else to focus on.
That can really help.
Yeah, it's going to be therewhen you get out of the focus,
but I'll take whatever relief Ican get till I get my back
surgery on first.
Amy Taylor (45:15):
Oh yeah, that's going to be a blessing.
Nikki Williams (45:18):
Yes, it really is.
I know not very many.
Everybody's like I'm so sorryyou have to have surgery and I'm
like I'm not Cause it's goingto help.
Amy Taylor (45:24):
Yeah, you're like thank thankfully yeah.
Nikki Williams (45:28):
But it really has helped, um, in the fact that
when I found out that I don'thave to be stuck in my pain,
half the problem with the painis being so focused on it that
you don't, you can't, focus onanything else.
Very well, yeah, for me, bakingdoes that for and from, and
music does that.
(45:48):
When I'm singing, I am inanother place, I'm on another
plane of.
That is the truest form for meof what we call the stillness
and the silence, even thoughit's not literal silence, right?
No, I get that.
I'm in a place where I am soconnected to spirit that it's
just flowing.
I'm letting it flow through me.
Amy Taylor (46:08):
Yeah.
That's how it is for melistening to music.
Nikki Williams (46:11):
Yes, yes.
Amy Taylor (46:13):
I never would have made it through the teenage
years without music.
Nikki Williams (46:17):
And I think that's especially true for
people, our age people, thoseGen Xers.
Our music was our solace andour refuge.
Amy Taylor (46:27):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly what I would say.
Nikki Williams (46:30):
It really was.
For some people, it's theirartwork that puts them in that
state.
They've actually done studiesthat show that coloring can put
people in a very similar stateof consciousness as deep
meditation.
Amy Taylor (46:45):
That's fascinating, and they've got a new type of
coloring out.
Have you heard about this?
No, they have a big picture andyou draw the outlines of
everything, like maybe it'sflowers or whatever, but you
don't know what it is until youdraw the outlines on the page.
That's kind of cool.
Yeah, they're on amazon.
Nikki Williams (47:06):
I saw those and was like that is different I'm
always looking for new thingsbecause I do like to color and
I'm always like you've got tohave a creative outlet.
Amy Taylor (47:15):
I think that is really important for that you
can just do without thinking yes, exactly, and that's the point.
Nikki Williams (47:23):
The point is to get out of the thinking, to get
out of your own head, exactlybecause when you're in your head
and you're stuck in there thatit's like, ah, you know, and
then you can't get in touch withthose gifts as well, you can't
open yourself up to receivingthe messages that you, that are
meant for you, because they'renot in your brain.
I mean, I'm sure they inspirethoughts, they inspire things
(47:48):
like that, but it's deeper thanthat.
A soul communication is deeperthan a mental type of
communication.
So when I say, when we sayclear seeing, it's not a
physical form of seeing,although sometimes it can
definitely seem that way.
It is spiritual sight which cankind of overlay the physical
(48:09):
sight.
But you know very well that inthe physical 3D reality that's
not what your eyeballs areseeing, right?
Does that make sense?
And the same with hearing, like,I hear the messages, but I know
they're not literally talkingto me.
I'm not actually hearing aperson's voice.
(48:30):
It is internal, but on a deeperlevel.
Okay, person's voice, it isinternal, but on a deeper level.
Amy Taylor (48:39):
okay, but I, but it puts words to it because I'm
just, I'm a very verbalprocessor, me too, and so
oftentimes people are like whoare you talking to?
Nikki Williams (48:44):
I'm like, well, and I don't want to sit there
and go.
Well, I'm talking to my guides,but I speak out loud to them.
You know we carry onconversations how funny.
Amy Taylor (48:54):
Yeah, my daughter talks to her games all the time
and I'll be in the other roomand I'll go.
Who are you talking to, honey?
I think she's on the phone orsomething.
Nikki Williams (49:02):
She's like my game my oldest daughter used to
talk to her math homework oh,how funny and the other day she
was over here grading papers andshe was talking to her grading.
Amy Taylor (49:12):
Oh, wow, that's great that is great, nikki.
I have really enjoyed ourconversation.
I have learned so much oh thankyou, I've enjoyed it too.
Nikki Williams (49:25):
I love this oh great.
Amy Taylor (49:27):
Is there anything that you'd like to just kind of
leave our audience withsomething you'd like to say as a
last kind of leave them withsomething?
Nikki Williams (49:38):
I would very much like to say to take a deep
breath and let yourself beguided gently by that still
small voice, that still smallvoice inside, to not to just
(50:00):
freaking.
Stop overthinking everything,because we all do it.
There's no place for self-doubtin the world of spiritual gifts
.
It's not.
Self-doubt is not a spiritualgift right, oh that.
Amy Taylor (50:15):
Oh, that's giving me chills again.
That's tight in thisconversation.
Nikki Williams (50:19):
Oh, sweet, sweet , I love it.
But yeah, learn to trust thatstill small voice because it
isn't going to lead you wrong.
Amy Taylor (50:27):
Right.
Nikki Williams (50:28):
And it does not inspire anxiety.
It might inspire a type of fearthat's a self-preservation type
of fear, like don't walk downthat alley right now, but it's
not the kind that leads to thoseweird intrusive type of
thoughts we talked about earlier.
It's the kind that just goes no, go this way, Take this other
way this time.
(50:49):
Just kind of directs you.
Yeah, it's gentle, it's agentle type of, and even the
alarm system is like now, hey,let's go this way tonight, you
know.
Hey, maybe you should take thatumbrella with you because it
makes good webbing.
Maybe you should take thatumbrella with you.
You know what, maybe haulsomebody and walk with them.
(51:10):
You know, maybe make sure yourspare tire is filled with air
today.
Just check that.
You know.
Amy Taylor (51:18):
I think of all the times I have ignored that inner
voice and I need to do that more.
Nikki Williams (51:25):
And I'm sure there are times when you've
ignored that inner voice andyou've thought later I wish I
would have listened to myself ohyes, yeah, and I know we all
have listened to myself yes,yeah, and we all, I know we all
have those times.
And then I know that we all havethose stories where it's like I
knew that was coming.
I felt that was coming and I'mso glad I didn't.
You know, I didn't go that waytoday, Right, I didn't care
(51:47):
about something happening youknow later, or I'm so glad that
I had to turn around and go getsomething that I left at home.
Amy Taylor (51:54):
And you missed the accident.
Nikki Williams (51:57):
Exactly, exactly , the saving world.
Yeah, it really is.
And when we listen and we payattention to those little subtle
they're very subtlecommunications, yeah, it's not
going to shout at you and whackyou upside the head.
Amy Taylor (52:14):
On the other hand, if you're supposed to be
learning something and youstubbornly don't, it will keep
repeating the lesson over andover again and it gets more
intense each time, until it hitsyou with the cosmic two-by-four
, because about a month ago Iwas drawing Oracle cards on a
daily basis I'm not kidding,daily basis, like I'm not
(52:38):
kidding for like two weeksstraight.
No matter how I mixed that deckand shuffled it, I kept pulling
the oh my, the high priestess,ah.
And I was like what am Isupposed to be getting from this
?
And I talked to my friend, youknow, or tacy, yeah, yeah.
And she said, well, did you getwhat you're supposed to get
from that?
And I said no, and she's likethat's why you keep pulling it.
Nikki Williams (52:58):
You have to sit with that.
You have to sit with that.
Amy Taylor (53:02):
Yeah.
Nikki Williams (53:03):
Let it inspire you, let it reassociate with it
for a while.
Sit down and, when it comes tothe cards, sit down and really
focus on the details of thepicture, things that stand out
that you may not have noticedbefore, animals that might be in
the background, or colors orshapes, or even numbers.
Things will show up that youhaven't noticed before and those
(53:25):
will be important.
Amy Taylor (53:27):
I'll have to try that.
All right, Nikki.
Well, thank you again.
I really enjoyed you coming onthe show today.
Nikki Williams (53:33):
Oh, I really enjoyed being here and I enjoyed
your Pampered Chef Party.
Amy Taylor (53:36):
You were a great host by the way, that was really
fun.
Had a great time.
It was fun and I will put yourinformation in the show notes so
that anybody else who'sinterested in the Pampered Chef
Party can sign up.
Nikki Williams (53:48):
The Psychic Pampered Chef Party.
Yes, I believe you need an ovenand air fryer yeah, hey, I got
mine coming.
Amy Taylor (53:58):
I'm excited.
Nikki Williams (53:59):
I'm excited too.
I'm excited too.
All right, thank you so much,amy, I've really had fun oh, me
too.
Amy Taylor (54:05):
Hey everyone, it's Amy again just popping in to
wrap things up.
Wow, wasn't that an incrediblechat with Nikki.
I hope you all enjoyed it asmuch as I did.
She's got such a fun and uniqueoutlook on the world and I love
how she can just roll withanything and everything, from
tarot to pampered chef parties.
If you're curious about Nikki'swork or you want to know more
(54:28):
about those cool pampered chefgoodies, I'll drop all her info
in the show notes.
Seriously, you won't want tomiss out.
Thanks so much for hanging outwith us today and if you liked
what you heard, be sure to hitthat subscribe button and maybe
we also review if you're feelingextra generous.
Until next time, keep listeningto that inner voice and
remember a little magic isalways possible in your day.
(54:51):
Keep advancing, warriors.
Thank you.
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