December 30, 2020 • 39 mins
In this week's episode, Sara and Rosalinda get into the meat of Whitney's 20s party. They go over Jen's Mary induced meltdown and look at the only bright spot of the evening (hint: it involves food). Moreover, they breakdown Jen's "grandpa MFer" comment and how it might not only apply to just Mary. They then dive into Meredith's relationship with Lisa to find that Lisa's heart grew three times in size. Next, they try to understand Jen and her obsession with snacks (and betrayal...) along with pleading with Fate to save Heather's children from her green bean casserole. Finally, the duo finally talks about the namesake of the podcast - the MET Gala Luncheon!
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Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:06):
Hey guys! Welcome back to MET Gala
Luncheon, I'm your host Sara VanTuerenhout and I'm joined by:
Rosalinda Mendez (00:12):
Rosalinda!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:13):
And this is the podcast where we break down
our favorite reality TV shows,and dive into the craziness that
ensues. This week, we're onEpisode Four of The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City,"Roaring Emotions."
Rosalinda Mendez (00:27):
Can't believe are already here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:29):
I know. Of another two parter.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:31):
Exactly. So kind of a four parter...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:34):
Really, it kind of is at some point, they
just got to stop.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:37):
I know, it's kind of like everyone is like...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (00:40):
*interjects* I'm tired...
Rosalinda Mendez (00:41):
....To be continued....Can you just finish
something already?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:44):
Uh, yeah, really...Well, anyways, we are
on the second part of the 20sparty, because you know, we just
got a little taste of it lastweek, and we see kind of a
showdown between Meredith andJen.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:57):
Yeah, this is one where it was really pretty
forced. Because, honestly, Iwill have to, again, be on
Meredith's side and not on Jen'sside because it was somebody's
party, and as we will quicklydive into the ultimate canon of
housewives, "this was neitherthe time nor the place for this
(01:17):
argument."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:17):
And like, it really was all or nothing,
because Jen just walked in thedoor angry. She saw Meredith
from across the room and justblew a gasket.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:27):
She's like, "oh, my god, they're sitting
together." This is like definiteMiddle School. Like I can't
believe she's eating lunch withthem.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:35):
I know, I can't believe she's being nice
to someone also on the cast, andthey're having casual
conversation about clothes, andso this is clearly a stab in the
back.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:45):
I know, it's all about me and how I'm not
being respected.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:49):
Yeah, and then like she stormed off... I
can't remember who she went togo talk to, but she went to go
talk to one of the other ladies,and was like really pissing on
being a Switzerland friend. Ithink it was like Heather or
something. Because, you know,Heather's kind of the sounding
board for all these crazyladies, and so she was just
like, "oh, if you're aSwitzerland friend, that means
you're not a real friend."
Rosalinda Mendez (02:11):
So yeah, I don't understand why this had to
be like everybody taking theirsides, and you know, basically,
you know, pistols at dawn, ifyou're not with me.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:20):
Yeah, exactly. I truly have no words.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:24):
And Jen was just...she was hot on
everything. Like she immediatelywent also into the "Why can't
you have a sleep over with me?"
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:32):
Yeah, I mean, cuz that was like the main
crux of the issue was thatMeredith had canceled their
sleep over after this party,because well, as we talked about
last episode, Brooks has takenover her social life and said,
No, this isn't happening. Butregardless that the sleep over
was canceled, and Jen thinksthat this has to do something
with Mary and how Meredith isnow making friends with Mary. So
(02:55):
that's why she canceled thesleep over. Because God forbid
her child actually wants to hangout with her.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:00):
Well, yeah.
And basically what she said toher, her daughter was going
away, like Brooks fine. He'sthere all the time. But her
daughter was actually going togo leave the next day, like your
a mother, Jen, do you not getit? Like, you might want to
spend some time with your child,and she's like, well it's almost
like, "she'll always have them."It's like, Yeah, but you kind of
live in the same town. It's notthe same. It's your kid. So you
(03:23):
know, that should have been theend of the conversation. Like if
someone said to me, like theywanted to do something, and it
was, for example, your last dayin town, I'd be like, no, it
says last day, we can do it someother day.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:38):
Exactly.
And like my thing, though, yousee her get mad, and then she
kind of cools off a bit as muchas Jen can cool off and goes to
the table where the ladies aresitting at and asked to pull
Meredith aside, and was prettymuch like, "why are you talking
to Mary?" "Why are you withher?" "You really want to be
friends with her?" Like why like"that is such a dumb idea
because she f****ed her grandpa.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:57):
I know she called her a grandpa f***er, I
think.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:59):
Yeah. A grandpa MFer...
Rosalinda Mendez (04:01):
*interjects* Mfr. Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:03):
....As Mary says.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:04):
Which is just it's just so rude.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:06):
It really is. It was just very loud and
uncalled for, and for the manyfaults Mary has, because she
does have them, that feels likea low blow.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:15):
It is because this is talking about her
personal relationship with herhusband, and again, she has a
child with this person. It's herhusband...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (04:24):
*interjects* unfortunately....
Rosalinda Mendez (04:25):
...And it's I mean, and they're not related, I
mean, in any way, they're notblood related. So it's not that
weird. But yeah, it's just it'sit's pretty low. But the fact
that you know, this is a partywhere everybody's supposed to be
having fun. It's supposed to belight. It's supposed to be airy
to choose this location, and shewas amazing, because of course,
(04:45):
she's in her madam dress, right?
And she goes off and she slipsoff to that table where people
have to come to her becauseshe's holding court and she's
giving them an audience to youknow, and she's kind of, you
know, airing her grievances, andit's just it to me it's just
ridiculous because it'sbasically the world revolves
around me and anyone who'sfriends with someone who might
have offended me just can youknow pound sand.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:08):
Yeah because she's like "don't you
see a conflict with beingfriends with me [Jen] and with
Mary" because somehow those aretwo mutually exclusive things.
Rosalinda Mendez (05:16):
Yeah it's crazy, but I will have to say,
the other great thing about thisentire you know, back and forth
and everything is we found outwho in the cast has real
priorities at this point
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:26):
True. True.
Because two of the ladies Ibelieve Lisa first and Whitney
later went to go comfort Jenwhile she's kind of having this
massive freakout and Heather, aswe find out she is all of us at
a party. They were serving food,some lollipop drumsticks, some
burgers, you know, some goodstuff, and she was debating
whether to go comfort, Jen, andwhether she should leave her
(05:47):
food.
Rosalinda Mendez (05:48):
Well, at first she was like she was looking
around her like where thelollipop drumsticks, and she
left after they came because youwant to make sure she didn't
miss 'em.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:57):
And then she asked when she went to go
comfort Jen, because out offear, they were like, "if I
don't comfort, Jen, she mightget mad at me. So for my own
survival, I'll go like check inon her," and so then she said,
"oh, watch out for my lollipopdrumsticks make sure no one
takes them," and that's honestlyme at a party. Like, I want the
(06:18):
food.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:18):
Hey, if the food's poppin, and it's good,
and you have some friend that'sacting like they're five. You
know, you have to get yourpriorities straight. Yes, you
take care of your friend. Butyou also need to take care of
yourself because you know, goodfriendship means you should do
some self care and self care arelollipop drumsticks and burgers.
I'm all about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:37):
Because I mean, as we know, food is love.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:40):
It is love. So anyway, but we also, we also see
them trying to say to her, "hey,settle down. This is not as big
as you think it might be. Andyou're making a big scene."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:52):
She made a huge scene, you see this montage
of the rest of the party and allof the people are just staring
at her - Jen. Just very confusedbecause it really seems out of
left field if you don't have thecontext of "it smells like
hospital," her getting mad atMary, and then her...
Rosalinda Mendez (07:09):
*interjects* Or the sleep over.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (07:10):
Yeah, the sleep over controversy. So like
her walking in and just seeingMeredith talk to Mary really
doesn't seem like a cause forthis scale of a blow up.
Rosalinda Mendez (07:23):
I just love that this party had a master of
ceremonies, and the entire timehe's like, "everybody's having a
great time right? This is allwonderful! Yeah, we are partying
down" and you're like, there'sjust the sulking monster in...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (07:35):
*interjects* Yeah, no. I mean, I could feel
the tension through the TVscreen. Like I wanted to get out
of that party.
Rosalinda Mendez (07:43):
Yeah, it was really crazy. But yeah, I guess
and the thing is, finally, thankyou, Heather. I guess in some
ways, she finally figured out weneed to call coach Shah. We need
to get her out of here becausethis is going nowhere fast, and
it just keeps getting worse andworse. And she's not going to be
comforted by anyone.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:00):
No, and she finally gets coach shah on the
phone. He comes to pick her up,and it was kind of funny how
Heather signaled him downbecause she was like, "oh, I'm
the flapper with the cankles."
Rosalinda Mendez (08:12):
Yeah, that was funny.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:13):
It's like, she's so self aware, and I love
it, and no, I thought that was agreat scene.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:18):
No, it was good. It's what a friend should
do. Like if they know you, theyshould make sure they get you
out of a situation where I meanit was it was going from bad to
worse, and the sad thing is, isI know that they're never
supposed to breach the fourthwall. But you're acting like
this and people are filming you.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:34):
I know.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:34):
Like again, Heather has perfect self
awareness. Jen has zero selfawareness.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:39):
Yeah. And I mean, clearly there's more stuff
going down. I mean, we learnthat later, her dad had passed
away a year ago. So like she'scoming up on the anniversary of
her dad's death and like clearlythere's some underlying issues
there. But ya no, Heather did agood thing and got her home
Rosalinda Mendez (08:56):
And we find out something shocking about
Heather.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:58):
I know. I-
Rosalinda Mendez (09:00):
Which no one's picked up quite yet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:01):
Yes! I was just gonna say I- no one is
talking about this. Everyone'sjust gloss over this. Heather
let it slip that she f***ed a gandpa. Because after Jen said, "
h, well, Mary is a grandpaotherf***er." Heather was like,
"well, I f***ed the grandpa. Iont see the big deal. And I-
(09:23):
o... no one has talked about it.
I am intrigued, what's the stoy behind it? Who's the grandpa?
Is it closely related? Are theyelated at all? How did they
eet? Why did she
Rosalinda Mendez (09:33):
Well, the way that I look at it. I was
thinking about this more, andhonestly, Heather's her dating
pool is the Mormons. The Mormonstend to get married really
young. Heather is my age. I knowthat I have many friends my age
who got married right after highschool, who are grandparents and
I hate to say some of them aregreat grandparents. But....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (09:54):
*interjects* No way...
Rosalinda Mendez (09:55):
...they are.
Yeah, it happens.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:56):
You're not getting any grandchildren
anytime soon...
Rosalinda Mendez (09:58):
Well thank you. Please keep that promise.
That's my Christmas gift,anyway. Yeah, no. So I think
that it's not unusual that thatwould have happened, and it
probably isn't anybody who isolder, they're probably in their
50s or 60s. So I don't I don't Idon't find it too scandalous.
But I just think it's funny thatshe said it, and no one said
anything.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:18):
Yeah, literally, there is no, yeah, no
one's talking about it. Thereshould be some deep dive
research. I want to hear moreabout this.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:26):
Yeah, exactly.
I just think it's the datingpool in Salt Lake City. But
anyway, from there, I guess. Wemove on to...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (10:36):
*interjects* A more chilled out scene.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:37):
Yeah. What we've been waiting for - girls.
Just a few girls together.
Sara Van Tuerenhou (10:42):
*interjects* Well, just two girls...
Rosalinda Mendez (10:43):
Yeah. Because again, yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:44):
They only do things in groups of two or a
whole group.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:47):
Exactly. So you know, so two girls together
at a at an art gallery, which...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:53):
I you know, struggled to call art.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:56):
It was a very strange place. I mean,
obviously, everyone has theirtastes. So I'm not trying to
taste shame anybody.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:03):
Yeah. Let us know in the comments, what
y'all thought of that artgallery? Because is it... Are we
just being pretentious? Or arewe you know, on the head with
that one?
Rosalinda Mendez (11:11):
Again, I'm thinking, you know, if this
doesn't pan out. Maybe westarted an art gallery in Salt
Lake City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:15):
I mean, yeah, I can't paint or draw for
sh*t. But maybe I could makesome money there.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:22):
Possibly.
Anyway, so yeah, it is a lotquieter, and it's a chance for
Meredith to tell her twin Lisa.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:29):
I know. I know, as much as thet say that
they're twins. In these pastthree episodes, we haven't
really seen a lot of one on onetime between Heather and oh
sorry, Meredith and Lisa, and soit was kind of nice to see their
bond, I guess. Because Meredithmentioned that she sees Lisa
kind of like a Yeah, likefamily, and so she took Lisa to
(11:49):
the art gallery, one, to getmore art for her home, because
they kind of just moved in, butalso to you know, let her know
that her and Seth are getting aseparation.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:59):
Yeah. And it was amazing how and it just
shows, sometimes when you'rereally close, especially when
families are close how hard thatis, and, you know, it was nice
of- in some ways of Lisa to beasking about both of them and
how they're both doing andunderstanding that her... not
her loyalties, but that she'sshe's there for Meredith
Sara Van Tuerenhout (12:19):
Yeah. And I mean, honestly, that kind of
surprised me because my initialimpression of Lisa as this like
vapid, self absorbed person whoonly really cares about herself
and associating herself withperfect people, because she's
all like, I'm the perfectMormon, and like, really values
religion, which is fine, butthat doesn't always necessarily
lend itself to being nice whenpeople are struggling in things
(12:40):
like a relationship or amarriage. So she Yeah, she was
very kind and understanding, andI totally get why Meredith kind
of hesitated on telling Lisa,especially given that she feels
that Lisa so close to her andher family, because I mean, just
like personally, I always findit, it's much harder to tell
people personal things whenyou're closer to them than a
more casual acquaintance.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:01):
Yeah, I know, and I think as well, she
probably was like, you know, wehave not only our spouses that
are probably friends, but thenfriends of friends, you know,
get into the bigger groups, andsometimes when you're working
this out again, you know, itdoesn't necessarily feel good
when you're struggling with arelationship to then bring that
(13:21):
out to your friends. Because youdon't want to force them to
choose you also, are trying towork it out. You don't know
what's going on either. Youdon't want your partner's
business out there. You don'twant to make it seem like you're
making anybody choose. So yeah,I thought it was very, very good
conversation. I thought it wasvery sweet, and she did pick out
something monochrome for herbedroom so that was good.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:44):
Yeah, she picked out some art for her
bedroom, which we will seelater, I'm sure.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:49):
So from there, we move on...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:51):
To Mary's house. Because, you know, what
episode would it'd be without alittle marry action.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:57):
Yeah, it's like I don't know Versailles
meets... I have no idea how todescribe her house.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:03):
It's just very gaudy. But it's very Mary.
Rosalinda Mendez (14:05):
It is it totally fits her personality.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:07):
Even though Lisa doesn't agree. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (14:10):
I'm about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:11):
Yeah,
Rosalinda Mendez (14:11):
I'm like, I think that Mary at least is
incredibly consistent. She has astyle. She picked Elaine. It's
early Donald Trump. I think,something like that...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:21):
Yeah, no, I think it's a nice house. I mean,
I wouldn't be complaining if Ihad a house that size either.
So....
Rosalinda Mendez (14:27):
No, and it's it's I don't know, I don't know
if he would say it's disjointedor not. But I think it's it
really reflects Mary and that'sprobably the... all we need to
say there. But you know, then wekind of see this friendship
between Lisa and Mary,
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:44):
Which I didn't actually really see them
as a pairing because thus far wehaven't seen them really
interact. So when we move fromLisa and Meredith's relationship
to Lisa and Mary's relationship,it just kind of felt like a 180.
Like these two women seem likepolar opposite ends of the
spectrum.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:03):
Yeah, I was really interested in the
juxtaposition of that... ofthose two scenes. That we go
from this quiet thing betweentwo people who have obviously
been friends for a long time. Tothen Lisa and Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:15):
Yeah, cuz like we haven't gotten any
background on them. Because likethe other women, we, we know
that Mary and Whitney have knowneach other for a bit, and then
Whitney and Heather are cousins,and then Meredith and Jen met
two years ago, and Meredith andLisa met a couple years ago as
well. But there's no backgroundon Mary and Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:35):
Right. So this is the first time we see it. But
we also know that they arepeople who have children. So
they have that in common.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:42):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:42):
And it seems that Lisa is very much into
fashion, like Mary is as well.
Sara Van Tuerenhou (15:48):
Questionable fashion yes...
Rosalinda Mend (15:50):
*simultaneously* But but fashion nonetheless.
Exactly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:53):
Yeah. But we get another cameo of Robert
Jr.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:56):
Right, and this is where I guess, you know,
part of the idea, we figure outthe thing about fashion because
Robert Jr. is talking about hisgirlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:02):
Yeah, and they're talking about, yeah, his
girlfriend and what gifts hehad, he has given her and one of
them includes a Prada purse.
Which you know, he didn't buywith his own money.
Unknown (16:12):
And you can tell again, how much Mary does not like this
girlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:15):
No. I mean, partly, I think she's just
jealous because he didn't buyher a Prada purse.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:19):
I know. I just love the fact that she said that
the relationship would last-last less than the Prada purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:24):
I know. And like the fact that he's also
Rosalinda Mendez (16:24):
I don't know.
It just shows that sometimesgiven her a dog and a
chinchilla. What is she going todo with all these animals? Run a
zoo? I-? What what type oflifestyle is he anticipating wi
h his girlfriend?
people have way too much moneyand...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (16:40):
*interjects* And they should give it to me or
us.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:42):
Yeah, yeah that's right. But yeah, I don't
I don't know. So it wasinteresting that yeah, I don't I
can't imagine my high schoolboyfriend giving me a Prada
purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:50):
No...
Rosalinda Mendez (16:50):
I can't even remember anything my high school
boyfriend gave me that was...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (16:53):
*interjects* That expensive?
Rosalinda Mendez (16:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think I mean, I'm pretty sure
that I probably got like an IDbracelet or something.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:59):
Ooh, fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez (17:02):
Engraved things remembered in the mall.
But that was about as great isthat got...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:07):
Yeah. I just-- rich people live such
different lives and the rest ofus...
Rosalinda Mendez (17:10):
F. Scott Fitzgerald was right. "The rich,
they are different from us."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:15):
Yeah. But at this get together of Lisa and
Mary, we get the creation of ournamesake, the Met Gala luncheon.
Rosalinda Mendez (17:24):
This is where it was born people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:25):
This is where it was born!
Rosalinda Mendez (17:28):
In Mary Cosby's kitchen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:29):
Yep. This is where our life started. Who
would have thought Mary Cosbywould have such an effect on our
life?
Rosalinda Mendez (17:35):
I know we wouldn't be here if it weren't
for the entire inception of theMet Gala luncheon concept.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:40):
Which is just crazy. Because what is a
Met Gala themed luncheon?
Because the Met Gala HAS themes.
It's not A theme. It's alocation. It's an it's an event,
Rosalinda Mendez (17:51):
Right! And it's definitely not a luncheon.
They have like it's at night.
Literally. It has no luncheoninvolved with it, and it is very
red carpet, which I think itjust means fancy. It means
fancy, and it's in New York. ButI don't know. I'm not sure why
these women are so obsessed. Butthey seem to be mega obsessed
with the Met Gala with the MetGala in general.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:15):
Yeah, because this is now the second
Met Gala themed party. So as youcan probably tell, this is why
it's our inspiration for thispodcast. Because just like the
Met Gala luncheon, like Maryhosted, it's just a mishmash of
things we like to talk about.
Doesn't make much sense. Butit's a lot of fun.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:31):
Exactly. So but we'll have to admit that
we're not dressed up fancy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:35):
No, we're in our pajamas right now. You
know, trs fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:40):
Yes. For our French listener out there we are
trs fancy..
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:43):
Bonjour!
Rosalinda Mendez (18:44):
Anyway, so yeah. So this is the inception
of the Met Gala luncheon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:48):
Where they're going to air out, you
know, the differences betweenthe girls.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:53):
Yeah, my, the interesting thing is, is that in
several Housewives franchises,you have someone who is like
Mary, who's just like, you know,we need to have a lunch where we
just get together...this happensa lot on Atlanta, where they
collect bones, or you have tosay something about somebody. So
this is just kind of going alittle bit farther with that
(19:15):
whole concept, where you gettogether for lunch, and everyone
has to talk about what theproblems are, and just put it
out there.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:23):
I just don't think this needs to be
done in a group format. Becauselike a lot of the problems with
these girls are that it's likeone on one problems and not a
group dynamic problem. AlthoughI guess you could say, Jen and
Mary's relationship affects thegroup dynamic for sure. But it's
not like one part of the cast isagainst the other part of the
(19:44):
cast kind of similar to Ibelieve New York when they did
blondes v. brunettes, but Ithink, yeah, all of these issues
need to be aired out one-on-one,not a whole group, you know..
Rosalinda Mendez (19:57):
Yeah, none, none of this bodes well. I don't
I really think that, you know,when you hear them planning it
and Mary's intentions for it. Itjust doesn't sound like it's
gonna, it's gonna be one ofthose fun lady like lunches.
Like the ladies who lunch in NewYork where everyone's just
talking about light conversationand you know, what they're doing
(20:18):
over the summer in the Hamptons.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:19):
Yeah, because I don't know about you.
But like when I'm at lunch, I'mnot trying to do anything too
heavy. I still got the rest ofthe day. I don't want to have my
midday be like, super heavy.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:29):
Yeah, it's a little bit ominous. So you know,
I guess. Stay tuned. We're gonnafind out more how this Met Gala
luncheon goes...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:36):
Yeah. But from there from Lisa's ecstatic
approval of the MET Galaluncheon, we move to Heather and
Jen who are not so surprising offriends, because we see them at
the beginning of the firstepisode together. But we see Jen
kind of express why she actedthe way she did at Whitney's 20s
party, and we need to know alittle bit more about her and
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her relationship with Heather.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:00):
Yeah, I think the thing is, is that if you're
going to go in with a mood,maybe you just shouldn't go. Or
if you are you need to be selfaware enough to know to kind of
compartmentalize it, and put itsomewhere else. But she came in
hot to that to that party. Sonow I just feel like this is all
kind of like, how do I makemyself look not that bad? I'm
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going to talk about all thethings that are bothering me
which are legitimate and right.
But at this point her talking toHeather seems like she's just
trying to cover her ass.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (21:32):
Oh, for sure, and I mean, definitely
didn't help that she came toWhitney's party super drunk.
Which never you know, it's nevergood when you go into a party
super drunk. It's it's onlygonna end bad.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:41):
Yeah, Jen's not a happy fun drunk.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (21:44):
No, but, you know, at least to this
gathering, she didn't bringalcohol he brought snacks.
Because what would Jen bewithout her snacks at all times?
Because we get that gloriousmontage by Bravo where we see
her getting snacks before prettymuch every event and then she
even had snacks in her fannypack when they went skiing,
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which honestly is a fat mood. IfI was going to ski I would do
that too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:10):
True. Maybe she's diabetic. Maybe she needs
snacks.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:12):
I don't know. I mean, a woman can just
love food, too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:15):
That's true.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:16):
But yeah, then so while they're talking
and we this is where we find outthat Jen is coming up on her
father's one year anniversary ofpassing away, which, you know,
is a tough time for sure. Butkind of moving from that heavier
subject we see Heather makingdinner for her children, which
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caused us to raise our eyebrowsas Texans.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:40):
Yeah, it could be just because I'm a Texan, but
green bean casserole. That'ssomething you actually have as a
side....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (22:46):
*interjects* Like on Thanksgiving too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:48):
Yeah, and it's like a It's a special side.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:50):
It's it's not even that good. I mean, I'm
biased. We're both biasedbecause we both don't like green
beans. But jokingly, someoneneeds to call CPS on her poor
kids having to eat...
Rosalinda Mendez (23:03):
*interjects* They need protein!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:04):
It's just so sad... Like, green bean
casserole? You're gonna put allthis effort in cooking and what
you're cooking is green beancasserole like.... Heather's
kids, if you're listening, I canship you some food.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:16):
Let us know, we can get you some Omaha Steaks
in the mail
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:20):
Blink three times if you're being held
hostage...
Rosalinda Mendez (23:24):
Exactly.
Anyway, so yes, that's our Texanthing. But actually we do. But
all kidding aside, when we talkabout when Jen is talking about
her dad's funeral, she's talkingabout how sad she is that
Sharrieff couldn't come becausehe had a football game, which is
understandable. I'm sure thecoach can't leave. But I don't
know that the assistant coachcouldn't be head coach for one
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game unless it was THE game ofthe season.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:49):
I thought that was... I'm sure there had
to have been some way, and atsome point, I mean, I get that.
I don't even know if he's thehead coach, actually.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:59):
Yeah, I don't know, either. So like part of me
is also, you know, most I knowthat he would have to travel
with the team or something wouldhappen. But I would think that,
you know, most funerals don'thappen on a Saturday. So maybe,
which is when he probably wouldhave had to play. If they'd had
it during the week. If theycould have, you know, done that,
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which is when most funeralshappen. They could have he could
have maybe, you know, flown outlate Friday night and been with
the team but not maybe beenthere for practices before. I
Sara Van Tuerenhou (24:30):
*interjects* This may have been like the
don't know, but...
impetus for her eight... or theShah squad because she's always
being left alone.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:38):
It could be and she says that she has what
she could have a face- face timemarriage.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:43):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:43):
So the thing is, it's not clear that you
know, whether coach Shah'saround a lot, which I think
makes her lonely and gives hertoo much time on her hands
honestly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:53):
I think that also makes her perceived,
emphasis on perceived,friendship betrayals hurt even
more because she doesn't havelike people back at home to rely
on.
Rosalinda Mendez (25:04):
I know, which is why she seems to be blowing
up her friendship with Meredith.
I mean, basically, the slightsthat Meredith has done is, you
know, she she was talking toMary, just talking to Mary at a
party...
*interjects* Talking about hernecklace. So you know, really
deep...hit...hard hittingconversations with Meredith or
with Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:23):
And then she refused to have a sleep over
on the day before her daughterleft.
Yeah, and she explained why shecouldn't go, and then when Jen
asked point blank, like, "whywouldn't you let me have a sleep
over?" Meredith was kind oftrying to spare her the
embarrassment of like, youembarrass yourself in front of
my kids, and they didn't feelcomfortable with you coming
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over. She didn't want to saythat in public. But then Jen had
no problem airing out Mary'sdirty laundry, about being a
grandpa motherf***er, and it'sjust you see no tact really,
because then now these perceivedslights because all of these are
really "grave." She then tellsHeather about Meredith's
separation that Meredith toldJen in confidence, when like, I
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think she was one of the firstpeople she told about this
separation even before... well,we know before Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:14):
Yeah, and to me, that was just again, being
spiteful. She was just beingspiteful, because literally, you
know, if you were friends, andsomeone entrusted you with that
information. That is not yourstory to tell. That is not yours
to just go around talking toother people about, and then
she's kind of like, "well, shebetrayed me by not having a
sleep over. So I'm going to tellyou about her personal marital
(26:37):
issues."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:37):
Yeah, and my whole thing with this blow
up, I guess and betrayal is thatit doesn't matter what a friend
has done to you. Even if it wasa betrayal. Meredith said those
things when y'all were stillfriends. So if that person was
ever really a true friend ofyours, you wouldn't use that
information against them to hurtthem. So clearly, Jen really
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never saw Meredith as a friendbecause no friend would do that
to another person.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:02):
No, she really is one of these people who's a
tit for tat kind of person andmean, whatever she perceives to
be a slight against her. I needto even the score up with her,
which is just really sad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:14):
The poor women probably have to live in
fear, like, oh, if we betrayedShah, then who knows what she'll
unleash about us,
Rosalinda Mendez (27:20):
Right. So from there, we finally get to the
main event...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:24):
*Sing Song* bump, bump, bump...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:25):
The MET Gala luncheon. But before that, we
get to see all the ladies tryingto figure out what the heck this
theme mean.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:31):
Yes. We have Whitney who so aptly puts
along with Heather, this is aMet Gala luncheon ,with cocktail
attire, midday, in downtown SaltLake City. It's just like, all
very confusing. Honestly, Idon't even know what I would
wear. Because I get confusedwith a business casual. Like,
what does that mean? So Idefinitely wouldn't have been
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able to decode this attire...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:54):
This MET Gala luncheon attire...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:56):
No...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:56):
But yeah, it was funny. I was trying to see
like, who would have fit any ofthe parameters of Met Gala
luncheon, and like, literally,if you're like one of the main
kind of, I guess stars orsomebody who's actually
attending the Met Gala, or likeyou're a supermodel. I mean,
(28:16):
you're gonna wear couture stuff,one of a kind. That looks
amazing and is over the top. Imean, that's why it's couture. I
mean, I like their stuff. Someof it was vintage, maybe Mary's
stuff was runway, but I don'tthink that any of it was like
haute couture, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:35):
No, I mean, I was honestly kind of
disappointed with Mary's outfit,because we see her preparing for
the MET Gala luncheon, and we'lltalk about that in a second
because there's a lot to unpackwith just the preparation of
this crazy affair. But what shewas wearing, I thought she was
like, Oh, this is just for herto set up and then she was going
to go back home and change. Butit was actually very casual
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considering that Mary has anextensive closet where she's
boasting that she has all ofthese vintage Versace and Gucci
and Prada and things so you wuld think she would have the a
tire to fit this occasion.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:09):
Yeah, in some cases. I mean, when you saw them
coming up looks like they theywere dressed for prom or
actually homecoming not evenprom when they got out of the
car/ Although it's, yeah, it'sreally it was really kind of
interesting just to see whatthey all chose. I mean all the
ladies look good let me just putit that way. They were on point
Nobody looked...Nobody lookedbad I'm just saying...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (29:29):
*interjects* But I think they were they were
set up to fail because no onecan get that attire right
because it doesn't exist. Whatis a lunchtime cocktail attire
Met Gala theme? I don't know...
Rosalinda Mendez (29:41):
Too many things. Too many things. So but
before everyone arrives at thisamazing Met Gala luncheon, which
is at a really nice Italianrestaurant in Salt Lake City.
Mary is having the table set upand it's quite beautiful, but I
wasn't sure where any plateswe're gonna go for food because
Sara Van Tuerenhout (30:02):
Yeah, I mean she had all of this like
really expensive swag, includingLouis Vuitton earbuds which I
didn't even know they made, andif you were wondering because I
was, you don't have to do theresearch, I'll tell you it--
they are $1,190 for probably subquality audio. It's just again,
rich people having too muchmoney and not knowing what to
(30:23):
spend it on. But yeah, she hasalso a Versailles pen,
monogramed journals, and someother things. So you can't even
see the plates or even wherethey would eat. There's just
like a ton of stuff. So clearly,Mary has put a lot of money into
this. But while they weresetting up and putting out the
expensive swag, one of the herassistants accidentally put the
journal upside down, and thenshe [Mary] was just going off on
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them saying, "this is such ahuge mistake! Like can you even
read?"
Rosalinda Mendez (30:50):
Yeah, It's upside down. You can't... Yeah,
do you read? And she was justbeing very, very rude. She's
very dismissive. She's veryrude. And, you know, they're
trying to do their best. I mean,I don't know. You know, the Met
Gala is a lot of pressure.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:05):
I know. And they're doing this in probably
like an hour, and also they hadto set up beta fish ponds. Like
why, in what way is thatappetizing to see an aquarium
like six aquariums pretty muchon a table while I'm eating.
Like, what if the fish jumps outonto my plate? It just I- dont..
I don't see the logic in this.
Yeah. Butlike they went to Party City and
Rosalinda Mendez (31:23):
Yeah, it was very, very strange. So you know,
and then when the ladies arrive,it's very funny. They have I
don't know if it looks issupposed to look like FAO
Schwarz outside or something.
It's kind of Christmasy. So theyhave the it looks like the
guards from FAO Schwarz. They'rethe beef eater got their outfit.
Yeah, they'rethe Party City Beefeaters
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because it almost looked likethey had Marge Simpson hair.
Because they weren't real likehats. They were made of felt. So
they were drooping whenever theywould take someone out of the
car...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:54):
And then their actual vest, I guess you
could say look like plasticfilm. None of it looked
professional or nice. It justfelt very chintzy to me, and if
you're going to dish out allthis money, you couldn't afford
at least like a cotton vest?
Rosalinda Mendez (32:10):
Exactly.
Although I will have to sayWhitney was incredibly impressed
by the red carpet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:16):
Yeah, she was I mean, I think she really
just leaned into it because it'sso Mary. It really is. It's just
a mishmash of things and justkind of crazy and over the top,
and so Heather *Whitney* was allabout it, and honestly, I don't
know, I feel like I could beabout it too. Because you're
just at that point, you're infor the craziness. You're in for
the experience. You're ready tosee what's gonna happen.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:34):
Yeah, it you know, and and then they walked
in and they looked at all theswag, and they were like, whoa,
this is this is worth it. It'sworth like spending whatever
time we have to with crazy withcrazy Mary to like, be walking
away with all this cool swag.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:47):
I know.
Like, I wish I got some of thatswag.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:50):
I know. That was really funny. But then, you
know, they they sit down andagain, you know, it's not very
clear. Like, Jen's trying to notbe confrontational. She's
actually trying just to...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (33:04):
*interjects* Be nice.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:04):
....Be nice, and pick up the swag and go.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:07):
Well kind of, yeah. I mean, she's there to
try to just like be nice mendfences, because, again, whether
we want to admit it or not,these women are all on the same
TV show. It's produced. Theyhave to be friends. They have to
do things together. So you mightas well mend fences, and uh,
it's just very awkward.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:26):
Or at least be cordial...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:27):
At least..., exactly, at least be
cordial. But you definitely seethis tension between Jen and
Meredith and Mary and Jen.
Because those are the two womenshe [Jen] has slighted really,
but the whole idea and premiseof this luncheon is that they're
going to mend fences, be nice,get everything out on the table,
and so Mary has this idea forthem to write down like
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something they don't like aboutthemselves or what was that?
Rosalinda Mendez (33:57):
It was what their weakness was.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:59):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:59):
What they felt they needed to work on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:02):
And then of course, like for so we go around
like Mary starts first, andhonestly, I don't really
remember what she said. She saidsomething about like being too
sensitive. I don't even know...
Rosalinda Mendez (34:12):
So Mary's weakness was something and again
You're right. I don't rememberexactly what she said.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:16):
Yeah, but then we get to Lisa who again we
we have so many biases againstthis woman, but please sponsor
us VIDA tequila. We will...
Rosalinda Mendez (34:26):
*interjects* Change our tune!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:27):
We can change our dude with a few
bottles. But anyway, we're notexpensive. But yeah, she goes
around and says her weakness isbeing you know, she like that
she tries too hard that she likedevotes herself too much to her
businesses. Which is pretty muchlike a non answer. It's like
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what newbies give as theirweakness question like answer to
like a job interview
Rosalinda Mendez (34:54):
Yeah it sounds like they she didn't do like the
job interview thing you'resupposed to do, which is kind of
do the roleplay with somebodyyou know...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:01):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:02):
This is like one of those things like if you
did that they'd be like, "don'tdo that interview. It's not the
right answer."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:07):
No..
Rosalinda Mendez (35:07):
No, it's not getting you the job...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:09):
No one wants to hear about how, you
know, you're a perfectionist.
You try to get everything toright or something. It's just
annoying. But yeah, unsurprisingfrom Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:20):
Yeah, and then we start to actually we start to
get people who actually start toopen up. So Jen starts to open
up a little bit about her beingTongan, and about how that has
affected her, since she's beenin Salt Lake City, because she
came at a very early age. So theperception of her in a
predominantly white culture wasjust like, okay, you're not
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white, then you must be black,and so that was the identity and
what did she had to kind of dealwith, and so she wasn't able to
necessarily celebrate herculture or talk about her
culture, because people werejust looking at her one way, and
it caused her a lot of pain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:58):
Yeah, and I think this was a point she was
trying to emphasize to Mary andthat they could sympathize. As
both...Mary is black, and Jen isperceived as black. So they
could have kind of some commonground on what it's like to live
in Salt Lake City as a person ofcolor, and that kind of like
really fails because well, oneMary is the one that forced Jen
to speak up and say something,even though the whole point of
(36:20):
this exercise was to have themwrite stuff down, and then when
it was Jen's turn to go, she'slike, Oh, no, no, just say it
out loud, and she sets up thisrule where no one can interrupt
or talk back, while...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:33):
*interjects* Mary is setting up the rule.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:34):
Yes, Mary is setting up this rule that no
one can talk back or interruptsomeone's proclamation if you
want to say, but that's when westart getting into some fights.
Because Mary is now mad becausein Jen's, while she's talking
about how she grew up in that,in the Tongan culture, the first
child is kind of responsible foreverything, and it's like she
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feels a lot of pressure to keepup with her family, and I guess
her business (we still don'tknow what she does.). But that's
why she kind of lashed out atMeredith, and so she apologized
to Meredith. But she does notapologize to Mary for calling
her grandpa MFer in front of 30plus people at Whitney's 20w
Party, which is kind of where itleaves off.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:18):
And we are left again...
Sara Van Tuere (37:19):
*interjects*with a two parter because there's
just not enough to be continuedin this show....
Rosalinda Mendez (37:23):
Exactly. I mean, this is, at this point,
you just gotta quit that, like,I don't know, did they have like
the guy in the titlingdepartment get like a raise, and
so he gets to title everythingat the end. Like??
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:34):
I have no clue because, honestly, I--
Rosalinda Mendez (37:37):
*interjects* To be continued...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:38):
Yeah, I think Bravo's having this idea
that maybe because of COVID.
We're all saturated with thingsto watch, and our favorite women
aren't back yet, you know, theother major franchises, and this
is a new one. So they want tokeep people on the line on the
hook, and so they're like, Oh,well, if we keep doing To be
continued episodes, they'll beforced to watch the next one.
But at some point, I'm tired.
(38:00):
I'm tired. Like I like thisshow. It's good. Obviously, we
wouldn't be having a podcasttalking about it. If we didn't
like this show. But at somepoint, if they keep if the rest
of the season is to becontinued. I will jump off a
cliff because this is too much.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:16):
So kind of, you know, going with that theme.
We have come to the end of ourpodcast, but it's To be
continued because we still don'tknow what's happened at this
luncheon...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (38:26):
*interjects* Luncheon. Yes.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:28):
...Yet. So the Met Gala luncheon will
continue...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (38:32):
To be continued next time for Episode
Five. But yeah, thank you somuch for listening this far into
our ramblings, if you wouldn'tmind subscribing, dropping like,
a review, or a comment. That'dbe awesome. We look forward to
seeing you in the next one.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:47):
See you later!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (38:48):
Bye.
Hey guys! Welcome back to MET Gala
Luncheon, I'm your host Sara VanTuerenhout and I'm joined by:
Rosalinda Mendez (00:12):
Rosalinda!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:13):
And this is the podcast where we break down
our favorite reality TV shows,and dive into the craziness that
ensues. This week, we're onEpisode Four of The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City,"Roaring Emotions."
Rosalinda Mendez (00:27):
Can't believe are already here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:29):
I know. Of another two parter.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:31):
Exactly. So kind of a four parter...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:34):
Really, it kind of is at some point, they
just got to stop.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:37):
I know, it's kind of like everyone is like...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (00:40):
*interjects* I'm tired...
Rosalinda Mendez (00:41):
....To be continued....Can you just finish
something already?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:44):
Uh, yeah, really...Well, anyways, we are
on the second part of the 20sparty, because you know, we just
got a little taste of it lastweek, and we see kind of a
showdown between Meredith andJen.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:57):
Yeah, this is one where it was really pretty
forced. Because, honestly, Iwill have to, again, be on
Meredith's side and not on Jen'sside because it was somebody's
party, and as we will quicklydive into the ultimate canon of
housewives, "this was neitherthe time nor the place for this
(01:17):
argument."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:17):
And like, it really was all or nothing,
because Jen just walked in thedoor angry. She saw Meredith
from across the room and justblew a gasket.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:27):
She's like, "oh, my god, they're sitting
together." This is like definiteMiddle School. Like I can't
believe she's eating lunch withthem.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:35):
I know, I can't believe she's being nice
to someone also on the cast, andthey're having casual
conversation about clothes, andso this is clearly a stab in the
back.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:45):
I know, it's all about me and how I'm not
being respected.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:49):
Yeah, and then like she stormed off... I
can't remember who she went togo talk to, but she went to go
talk to one of the other ladies,and was like really pissing on
being a Switzerland friend. Ithink it was like Heather or
something. Because, you know,Heather's kind of the sounding
board for all these crazyladies, and so she was just
like, "oh, if you're aSwitzerland friend, that means
you're not a real friend."
Rosalinda Mendez (02:11):
So yeah, I don't understand why this had to
be like everybody taking theirsides, and you know, basically,
you know, pistols at dawn, ifyou're not with me.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:20):
Yeah, exactly. I truly have no words.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:24):
And Jen was just...she was hot on
everything. Like she immediatelywent also into the "Why can't
you have a sleep over with me?"
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:32):
Yeah, I mean, cuz that was like the main
crux of the issue was thatMeredith had canceled their
sleep over after this party,because well, as we talked about
last episode, Brooks has takenover her social life and said,
No, this isn't happening. Butregardless that the sleep over
was canceled, and Jen thinksthat this has to do something
with Mary and how Meredith isnow making friends with Mary. So
(02:55):
that's why she canceled thesleep over. Because God forbid
her child actually wants to hangout with her.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:00):
Well, yeah.
And basically what she said toher, her daughter was going
away, like Brooks fine. He'sthere all the time. But her
daughter was actually going togo leave the next day, like your
a mother, Jen, do you not getit? Like, you might want to
spend some time with your child,and she's like, well it's almost
like, "she'll always have them."It's like, Yeah, but you kind of
live in the same town. It's notthe same. It's your kid. So you
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know, that should have been theend of the conversation. Like if
someone said to me, like theywanted to do something, and it
was, for example, your last dayin town, I'd be like, no, it
says last day, we can do it someother day.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:38):
Exactly.
And like my thing, though, yousee her get mad, and then she
kind of cools off a bit as muchas Jen can cool off and goes to
the table where the ladies aresitting at and asked to pull
Meredith aside, and was prettymuch like, "why are you talking
to Mary?" "Why are you withher?" "You really want to be
friends with her?" Like why like"that is such a dumb idea
because she f****ed her grandpa.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:57):
I know she called her a grandpa f***er, I
think.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:59):
Yeah. A grandpa MFer...
Rosalinda Mendez (04:01):
*interjects* Mfr. Yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:03):
....As Mary says.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:04):
Which is just it's just so rude.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:06):
It really is. It was just very loud and
uncalled for, and for the manyfaults Mary has, because she
does have them, that feels likea low blow.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:15):
It is because this is talking about her
personal relationship with herhusband, and again, she has a
child with this person. It's herhusband...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (04:24):
*interjects* unfortunately....
Rosalinda Mendez (04:25):
...And it's I mean, and they're not related, I
mean, in any way, they're notblood related. So it's not that
weird. But yeah, it's just it'sit's pretty low. But the fact
that you know, this is a partywhere everybody's supposed to be
having fun. It's supposed to belight. It's supposed to be airy
to choose this location, and shewas amazing, because of course,
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she's in her madam dress, right?
And she goes off and she slipsoff to that table where people
have to come to her becauseshe's holding court and she's
giving them an audience to youknow, and she's kind of, you
know, airing her grievances, andit's just it to me it's just
ridiculous because it'sbasically the world revolves
around me and anyone who'sfriends with someone who might
have offended me just can youknow pound sand.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:08):
Yeah because she's like "don't you
see a conflict with beingfriends with me [Jen] and with
Mary" because somehow those aretwo mutually exclusive things.
Rosalinda Mendez (05:16):
Yeah it's crazy, but I will have to say,
the other great thing about thisentire you know, back and forth
and everything is we found outwho in the cast has real
priorities at this point
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:26):
True. True.
Because two of the ladies Ibelieve Lisa first and Whitney
later went to go comfort Jenwhile she's kind of having this
massive freakout and Heather, aswe find out she is all of us at
a party. They were serving food,some lollipop drumsticks, some
burgers, you know, some goodstuff, and she was debating
whether to go comfort, Jen, andwhether she should leave her
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food.
Rosalinda Mendez (05:48):
Well, at first she was like she was looking
around her like where thelollipop drumsticks, and she
left after they came because youwant to make sure she didn't
miss 'em.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:57):
And then she asked when she went to go
comfort Jen, because out offear, they were like, "if I
don't comfort, Jen, she mightget mad at me. So for my own
survival, I'll go like check inon her," and so then she said,
"oh, watch out for my lollipopdrumsticks make sure no one
takes them," and that's honestlyme at a party. Like, I want the
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food.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:18):
Hey, if the food's poppin, and it's good,
and you have some friend that'sacting like they're five. You
know, you have to get yourpriorities straight. Yes, you
take care of your friend. Butyou also need to take care of
yourself because you know, goodfriendship means you should do
some self care and self care arelollipop drumsticks and burgers.
I'm all about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:37):
Because I mean, as we know, food is love.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:40):
It is love. So anyway, but we also, we also see
them trying to say to her, "hey,settle down. This is not as big
as you think it might be. Andyou're making a big scene."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:52):
She made a huge scene, you see this montage
of the rest of the party and allof the people are just staring
at her - Jen. Just very confusedbecause it really seems out of
left field if you don't have thecontext of "it smells like
hospital," her getting mad atMary, and then her...
Rosalinda Mendez (07:09):
*interjects* Or the sleep over.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (07:10):
Yeah, the sleep over controversy. So like
her walking in and just seeingMeredith talk to Mary really
doesn't seem like a cause forthis scale of a blow up.
Rosalinda Mendez (07:23):
I just love that this party had a master of
ceremonies, and the entire timehe's like, "everybody's having a
great time right? This is allwonderful! Yeah, we are partying
down" and you're like, there'sjust the sulking monster in...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (07:35):
*interjects* Yeah, no. I mean, I could feel
the tension through the TVscreen. Like I wanted to get out
of that party.
Rosalinda Mendez (07:43):
Yeah, it was really crazy. But yeah, I guess
and the thing is, finally, thankyou, Heather. I guess in some
ways, she finally figured out weneed to call coach Shah. We need
to get her out of here becausethis is going nowhere fast, and
it just keeps getting worse andworse. And she's not going to be
comforted by anyone.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:00):
No, and she finally gets coach shah on the
phone. He comes to pick her up,and it was kind of funny how
Heather signaled him downbecause she was like, "oh, I'm
the flapper with the cankles."
Rosalinda Mendez (08:12):
Yeah, that was funny.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:13):
It's like, she's so self aware, and I love
it, and no, I thought that was agreat scene.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:18):
No, it was good. It's what a friend should
do. Like if they know you, theyshould make sure they get you
out of a situation where I meanit was it was going from bad to
worse, and the sad thing is, isI know that they're never
supposed to breach the fourthwall. But you're acting like
this and people are filming you.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:34):
I know.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:34):
Like again, Heather has perfect self
awareness. Jen has zero selfawareness.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:39):
Yeah. And I mean, clearly there's more stuff
going down. I mean, we learnthat later, her dad had passed
away a year ago. So like she'scoming up on the anniversary of
her dad's death and like clearlythere's some underlying issues
there. But ya no, Heather did agood thing and got her home
Rosalinda Mendez (08:56):
And we find out something shocking about
Heather.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:58):
I know. I-
Rosalinda Mendez (09:00):
Which no one's picked up quite yet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:01):
Yes! I was just gonna say I- no one is
talking about this. Everyone'sjust gloss over this. Heather
let it slip that she f***ed a gandpa. Because after Jen said, "
h, well, Mary is a grandpaotherf***er." Heather was like,
"well, I f***ed the grandpa. Iont see the big deal. And I-
(09:23):
o... no one has talked about it.
I am intrigued, what's the stoy behind it? Who's the grandpa?
Is it closely related? Are theyelated at all? How did they
eet? Why did she
Rosalinda Mendez (09:33):
Well, the way that I look at it. I was
thinking about this more, andhonestly, Heather's her dating
pool is the Mormons. The Mormonstend to get married really
young. Heather is my age. I knowthat I have many friends my age
who got married right after highschool, who are grandparents and
I hate to say some of them aregreat grandparents. But....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (09:54):
*interjects* No way...
Rosalinda Mendez (09:55):
...they are.
Yeah, it happens.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:56):
You're not getting any grandchildren
anytime soon...
Rosalinda Mendez (09:58):
Well thank you. Please keep that promise.
That's my Christmas gift,anyway. Yeah, no. So I think
that it's not unusual that thatwould have happened, and it
probably isn't anybody who isolder, they're probably in their
50s or 60s. So I don't I don't Idon't find it too scandalous.
But I just think it's funny thatshe said it, and no one said
anything.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:18):
Yeah, literally, there is no, yeah, no
one's talking about it. Thereshould be some deep dive
research. I want to hear moreabout this.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:26):
Yeah, exactly.
I just think it's the datingpool in Salt Lake City. But
anyway, from there, I guess. Wemove on to...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (10:36):
*interjects* A more chilled out scene.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:37):
Yeah. What we've been waiting for - girls.
Just a few girls together.
Sara Van Tuerenhou (10:42):
*interjects* Well, just two girls...
Rosalinda Mendez (10:43):
Yeah. Because again, yeah.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:44):
They only do things in groups of two or a
whole group.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:47):
Exactly. So you know, so two girls together
at a at an art gallery, which...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:53):
I you know, struggled to call art.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:56):
It was a very strange place. I mean,
obviously, everyone has theirtastes. So I'm not trying to
taste shame anybody.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:03):
Yeah. Let us know in the comments, what
y'all thought of that artgallery? Because is it... Are we
just being pretentious? Or arewe you know, on the head with
that one?
Rosalinda Mendez (11:11):
Again, I'm thinking, you know, if this
doesn't pan out. Maybe westarted an art gallery in Salt
Lake City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:15):
I mean, yeah, I can't paint or draw for
sh*t. But maybe I could makesome money there.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:22):
Possibly.
Anyway, so yeah, it is a lotquieter, and it's a chance for
Meredith to tell her twin Lisa.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:29):
I know. I know, as much as thet say that
they're twins. In these pastthree episodes, we haven't
really seen a lot of one on onetime between Heather and oh
sorry, Meredith and Lisa, and soit was kind of nice to see their
bond, I guess. Because Meredithmentioned that she sees Lisa
kind of like a Yeah, likefamily, and so she took Lisa to
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the art gallery, one, to getmore art for her home, because
they kind of just moved in, butalso to you know, let her know
that her and Seth are getting aseparation.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:59):
Yeah. And it was amazing how and it just
shows, sometimes when you'rereally close, especially when
families are close how hard thatis, and, you know, it was nice
of- in some ways of Lisa to beasking about both of them and
how they're both doing andunderstanding that her... not
her loyalties, but that she'sshe's there for Meredith
Sara Van Tuerenhout (12:19):
Yeah. And I mean, honestly, that kind of
surprised me because my initialimpression of Lisa as this like
vapid, self absorbed person whoonly really cares about herself
and associating herself withperfect people, because she's
all like, I'm the perfectMormon, and like, really values
religion, which is fine, butthat doesn't always necessarily
lend itself to being nice whenpeople are struggling in things
(12:40):
like a relationship or amarriage. So she Yeah, she was
very kind and understanding, andI totally get why Meredith kind
of hesitated on telling Lisa,especially given that she feels
that Lisa so close to her andher family, because I mean, just
like personally, I always findit, it's much harder to tell
people personal things whenyou're closer to them than a
more casual acquaintance.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:01):
Yeah, I know, and I think as well, she
probably was like, you know, wehave not only our spouses that
are probably friends, but thenfriends of friends, you know,
get into the bigger groups, andsometimes when you're working
this out again, you know, itdoesn't necessarily feel good
when you're struggling with arelationship to then bring that
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out to your friends. Because youdon't want to force them to
choose you also, are trying towork it out. You don't know
what's going on either. Youdon't want your partner's
business out there. You don'twant to make it seem like you're
making anybody choose. So yeah,I thought it was very, very good
conversation. I thought it wasvery sweet, and she did pick out
something monochrome for herbedroom so that was good.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:44):
Yeah, she picked out some art for her
bedroom, which we will seelater, I'm sure.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:49):
So from there, we move on...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:51):
To Mary's house. Because, you know, what
episode would it'd be without alittle marry action.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:57):
Yeah, it's like I don't know Versailles
meets... I have no idea how todescribe her house.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:03):
It's just very gaudy. But it's very Mary.
Rosalinda Mendez (14:05):
It is it totally fits her personality.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:07):
Even though Lisa doesn't agree. Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (14:10):
I'm about it.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:11):
Yeah,
Rosalinda Mendez (14:11):
I'm like, I think that Mary at least is
incredibly consistent. She has astyle. She picked Elaine. It's
early Donald Trump. I think,something like that...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:21):
Yeah, no, I think it's a nice house. I mean,
I wouldn't be complaining if Ihad a house that size either.
So....
Rosalinda Mendez (14:27):
No, and it's it's I don't know, I don't know
if he would say it's disjointedor not. But I think it's it
really reflects Mary and that'sprobably the... all we need to
say there. But you know, then wekind of see this friendship
between Lisa and Mary,
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:44):
Which I didn't actually really see them
as a pairing because thus far wehaven't seen them really
interact. So when we move fromLisa and Meredith's relationship
to Lisa and Mary's relationship,it just kind of felt like a 180.
Like these two women seem likepolar opposite ends of the
spectrum.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:03):
Yeah, I was really interested in the
juxtaposition of that... ofthose two scenes. That we go
from this quiet thing betweentwo people who have obviously
been friends for a long time. Tothen Lisa and Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:15):
Yeah, cuz like we haven't gotten any
background on them. Because likethe other women, we, we know
that Mary and Whitney have knowneach other for a bit, and then
Whitney and Heather are cousins,and then Meredith and Jen met
two years ago, and Meredith andLisa met a couple years ago as
well. But there's no backgroundon Mary and Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:35):
Right. So this is the first time we see it. But
we also know that they arepeople who have children. So
they have that in common.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:42):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:42):
And it seems that Lisa is very much into
fashion, like Mary is as well.
Sara Van Tuerenhou (15:48):
Questionable fashion yes...
Rosalinda Mend (15:50):
*simultaneously* But but fashion nonetheless.
Exactly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:53):
Yeah. But we get another cameo of Robert
Jr.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:56):
Right, and this is where I guess, you know,
part of the idea, we figure outthe thing about fashion because
Robert Jr. is talking about hisgirlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:02):
Yeah, and they're talking about, yeah, his
girlfriend and what gifts hehad, he has given her and one of
them includes a Prada purse.
Which you know, he didn't buywith his own money.
Unknown (16:12):
And you can tell again, how much Mary does not like this
girlfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:15):
No. I mean, partly, I think she's just
jealous because he didn't buyher a Prada purse.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:19):
I know. I just love the fact that she said that
the relationship would last-last less than the Prada purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:24):
I know. And like the fact that he's also
Rosalinda Mendez (16:24):
I don't know.
It just shows that sometimesgiven her a dog and a
chinchilla. What is she going todo with all these animals? Run a
zoo? I-? What what type oflifestyle is he anticipating wi
h his girlfriend?
people have way too much moneyand...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (16:40):
*interjects* And they should give it to me or
us.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:42):
Yeah, yeah that's right. But yeah, I don't
I don't know. So it wasinteresting that yeah, I don't I
can't imagine my high schoolboyfriend giving me a Prada
purse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:50):
No...
Rosalinda Mendez (16:50):
I can't even remember anything my high school
boyfriend gave me that was...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (16:53):
*interjects* That expensive?
Rosalinda Mendez (16:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think I mean, I'm pretty sure
that I probably got like an IDbracelet or something.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:59):
Ooh, fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez (17:02):
Engraved things remembered in the mall.
But that was about as great isthat got...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:07):
Yeah. I just-- rich people live such
different lives and the rest ofus...
Rosalinda Mendez (17:10):
F. Scott Fitzgerald was right. "The rich,
they are different from us."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:15):
Yeah. But at this get together of Lisa and
Mary, we get the creation of ournamesake, the Met Gala luncheon.
Rosalinda Mendez (17:24):
This is where it was born people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:25):
This is where it was born!
Rosalinda Mendez (17:28):
In Mary Cosby's kitchen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:29):
Yep. This is where our life started. Who
would have thought Mary Cosbywould have such an effect on our
life?
Rosalinda Mendez (17:35):
I know we wouldn't be here if it weren't
for the entire inception of theMet Gala luncheon concept.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:40):
Which is just crazy. Because what is a
Met Gala themed luncheon?
Because the Met Gala HAS themes.
It's not A theme. It's alocation. It's an it's an event,
Rosalinda Mendez (17:51):
Right! And it's definitely not a luncheon.
They have like it's at night.
Literally. It has no luncheoninvolved with it, and it is very
red carpet, which I think itjust means fancy. It means
fancy, and it's in New York. ButI don't know. I'm not sure why
these women are so obsessed. Butthey seem to be mega obsessed
with the Met Gala with the MetGala in general.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:15):
Yeah, because this is now the second
Met Gala themed party. So as youcan probably tell, this is why
it's our inspiration for thispodcast. Because just like the
Met Gala luncheon, like Maryhosted, it's just a mishmash of
things we like to talk about.
Doesn't make much sense. Butit's a lot of fun.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:31):
Exactly. So but we'll have to admit that
we're not dressed up fancy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:35):
No, we're in our pajamas right now. You
know, trs fancy.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:40):
Yes. For our French listener out there we are
trs fancy..
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:43):
Bonjour!
Rosalinda Mendez (18:44):
Anyway, so yeah. So this is the inception
of the Met Gala luncheon.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:48):
Where they're going to air out, you
know, the differences betweenthe girls.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:53):
Yeah, my, the interesting thing is, is that in
several Housewives franchises,you have someone who is like
Mary, who's just like, you know,we need to have a lunch where we
just get together...this happensa lot on Atlanta, where they
collect bones, or you have tosay something about somebody. So
this is just kind of going alittle bit farther with that
(19:15):
whole concept, where you gettogether for lunch, and everyone
has to talk about what theproblems are, and just put it
out there.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:23):
I just don't think this needs to be
done in a group format. Becauselike a lot of the problems with
these girls are that it's likeone on one problems and not a
group dynamic problem. AlthoughI guess you could say, Jen and
Mary's relationship affects thegroup dynamic for sure. But it's
not like one part of the cast isagainst the other part of the
(19:44):
cast kind of similar to Ibelieve New York when they did
blondes v. brunettes, but Ithink, yeah, all of these issues
need to be aired out one-on-one,not a whole group, you know..
Rosalinda Mendez (19:57):
Yeah, none, none of this bodes well. I don't
I really think that, you know,when you hear them planning it
and Mary's intentions for it. Itjust doesn't sound like it's
gonna, it's gonna be one ofthose fun lady like lunches.
Like the ladies who lunch in NewYork where everyone's just
talking about light conversationand you know, what they're doing
(20:18):
over the summer in the Hamptons.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:19):
Yeah, because I don't know about you.
But like when I'm at lunch, I'mnot trying to do anything too
heavy. I still got the rest ofthe day. I don't want to have my
midday be like, super heavy.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:29):
Yeah, it's a little bit ominous. So you know,
I guess. Stay tuned. We're gonnafind out more how this Met Gala
luncheon goes...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:36):
Yeah. But from there from Lisa's ecstatic
approval of the MET Galaluncheon, we move to Heather and
Jen who are not so surprising offriends, because we see them at
the beginning of the firstepisode together. But we see Jen
kind of express why she actedthe way she did at Whitney's 20s
party, and we need to know alittle bit more about her and
(20:59):
her relationship with Heather.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:00):
Yeah, I think the thing is, is that if you're
going to go in with a mood,maybe you just shouldn't go. Or
if you are you need to be selfaware enough to know to kind of
compartmentalize it, and put itsomewhere else. But she came in
hot to that to that party. Sonow I just feel like this is all
kind of like, how do I makemyself look not that bad? I'm
(21:23):
going to talk about all thethings that are bothering me
which are legitimate and right.
But at this point her talking toHeather seems like she's just
trying to cover her ass.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (21:32):
Oh, for sure, and I mean, definitely
didn't help that she came toWhitney's party super drunk.
Which never you know, it's nevergood when you go into a party
super drunk. It's it's onlygonna end bad.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:41):
Yeah, Jen's not a happy fun drunk.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (21:44):
No, but, you know, at least to this
gathering, she didn't bringalcohol he brought snacks.
Because what would Jen bewithout her snacks at all times?
Because we get that gloriousmontage by Bravo where we see
her getting snacks before prettymuch every event and then she
even had snacks in her fannypack when they went skiing,
(22:06):
which honestly is a fat mood. IfI was going to ski I would do
that too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:10):
True. Maybe she's diabetic. Maybe she needs
snacks.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:12):
I don't know. I mean, a woman can just
love food, too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:15):
That's true.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:16):
But yeah, then so while they're talking
and we this is where we find outthat Jen is coming up on her
father's one year anniversary ofpassing away, which, you know,
is a tough time for sure. Butkind of moving from that heavier
subject we see Heather makingdinner for her children, which
(22:37):
caused us to raise our eyebrowsas Texans.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:40):
Yeah, it could be just because I'm a Texan, but
green bean casserole. That'ssomething you actually have as a
side....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (22:46):
*interjects* Like on Thanksgiving too.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:48):
Yeah, and it's like a It's a special side.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:50):
It's it's not even that good. I mean, I'm
biased. We're both biasedbecause we both don't like green
beans. But jokingly, someoneneeds to call CPS on her poor
kids having to eat...
Rosalinda Mendez (23:03):
*interjects* They need protein!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:04):
It's just so sad... Like, green bean
casserole? You're gonna put allthis effort in cooking and what
you're cooking is green beancasserole like.... Heather's
kids, if you're listening, I canship you some food.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:16):
Let us know, we can get you some Omaha Steaks
in the mail
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:20):
Blink three times if you're being held
hostage...
Rosalinda Mendez (23:24):
Exactly.
Anyway, so yes, that's our Texanthing. But actually we do. But
all kidding aside, when we talkabout when Jen is talking about
her dad's funeral, she's talkingabout how sad she is that
Sharrieff couldn't come becausehe had a football game, which is
understandable. I'm sure thecoach can't leave. But I don't
know that the assistant coachcouldn't be head coach for one
(23:45):
game unless it was THE game ofthe season.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:49):
I thought that was... I'm sure there had
to have been some way, and atsome point, I mean, I get that.
I don't even know if he's thehead coach, actually.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:59):
Yeah, I don't know, either. So like part of me
is also, you know, most I knowthat he would have to travel
with the team or something wouldhappen. But I would think that,
you know, most funerals don'thappen on a Saturday. So maybe,
which is when he probably wouldhave had to play. If they'd had
it during the week. If theycould have, you know, done that,
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which is when most funeralshappen. They could have he could
have maybe, you know, flown outlate Friday night and been with
the team but not maybe beenthere for practices before. I
Sara Van Tuerenhou (24:30):
*interjects* This may have been like the
don't know, but...
impetus for her eight... or theShah squad because she's always
being left alone.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:38):
It could be and she says that she has what
she could have a face- face timemarriage.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:43):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:43):
So the thing is, it's not clear that you
know, whether coach Shah'saround a lot, which I think
makes her lonely and gives hertoo much time on her hands
honestly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:53):
I think that also makes her perceived,
emphasis on perceived,friendship betrayals hurt even
more because she doesn't havelike people back at home to rely
on.
Rosalinda Mendez (25:04):
I know, which is why she seems to be blowing
up her friendship with Meredith.
I mean, basically, the slightsthat Meredith has done is, you
know, she she was talking toMary, just talking to Mary at a
party...
*interjects* Talking about hernecklace. So you know, really
deep...hit...hard hittingconversations with Meredith or
with Mary.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:23):
And then she refused to have a sleep over
on the day before her daughterleft.
Yeah, and she explained why shecouldn't go, and then when Jen
asked point blank, like, "whywouldn't you let me have a sleep
over?" Meredith was kind oftrying to spare her the
embarrassment of like, youembarrass yourself in front of
my kids, and they didn't feelcomfortable with you coming
(25:46):
over. She didn't want to saythat in public. But then Jen had
no problem airing out Mary'sdirty laundry, about being a
grandpa motherf***er, and it'sjust you see no tact really,
because then now these perceivedslights because all of these are
really "grave." She then tellsHeather about Meredith's
separation that Meredith toldJen in confidence, when like, I
(26:09):
think she was one of the firstpeople she told about this
separation even before... well,we know before Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:14):
Yeah, and to me, that was just again, being
spiteful. She was just beingspiteful, because literally, you
know, if you were friends, andsomeone entrusted you with that
information. That is not yourstory to tell. That is not yours
to just go around talking toother people about, and then
she's kind of like, "well, shebetrayed me by not having a
sleep over. So I'm going to tellyou about her personal marital
(26:37):
issues."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:37):
Yeah, and my whole thing with this blow
up, I guess and betrayal is thatit doesn't matter what a friend
has done to you. Even if it wasa betrayal. Meredith said those
things when y'all were stillfriends. So if that person was
ever really a true friend ofyours, you wouldn't use that
information against them to hurtthem. So clearly, Jen really
(26:58):
never saw Meredith as a friendbecause no friend would do that
to another person.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:02):
No, she really is one of these people who's a
tit for tat kind of person andmean, whatever she perceives to
be a slight against her. I needto even the score up with her,
which is just really sad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:14):
The poor women probably have to live in
fear, like, oh, if we betrayedShah, then who knows what she'll
unleash about us,
Rosalinda Mendez (27:20):
Right. So from there, we finally get to the
main event...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:24):
*Sing Song* bump, bump, bump...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:25):
The MET Gala luncheon. But before that, we
get to see all the ladies tryingto figure out what the heck this
theme mean.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:31):
Yes. We have Whitney who so aptly puts
along with Heather, this is aMet Gala luncheon ,with cocktail
attire, midday, in downtown SaltLake City. It's just like, all
very confusing. Honestly, Idon't even know what I would
wear. Because I get confusedwith a business casual. Like,
what does that mean? So Idefinitely wouldn't have been
(27:52):
able to decode this attire...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:54):
This MET Gala luncheon attire...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:56):
No...
Rosalinda Mendez (27:56):
But yeah, it was funny. I was trying to see
like, who would have fit any ofthe parameters of Met Gala
luncheon, and like, literally,if you're like one of the main
kind of, I guess stars orsomebody who's actually
attending the Met Gala, or likeyou're a supermodel. I mean,
(28:16):
you're gonna wear couture stuff,one of a kind. That looks
amazing and is over the top. Imean, that's why it's couture. I
mean, I like their stuff. Someof it was vintage, maybe Mary's
stuff was runway, but I don'tthink that any of it was like
haute couture, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:35):
No, I mean, I was honestly kind of
disappointed with Mary's outfit,because we see her preparing for
the MET Gala luncheon, and we'lltalk about that in a second
because there's a lot to unpackwith just the preparation of
this crazy affair. But what shewas wearing, I thought she was
like, Oh, this is just for herto set up and then she was going
to go back home and change. Butit was actually very casual
(28:55):
considering that Mary has anextensive closet where she's
boasting that she has all ofthese vintage Versace and Gucci
and Prada and things so you wuld think she would have the a
tire to fit this occasion.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:09):
Yeah, in some cases. I mean, when you saw them
coming up looks like they theywere dressed for prom or
actually homecoming not evenprom when they got out of the
car/ Although it's, yeah, it'sreally it was really kind of
interesting just to see whatthey all chose. I mean all the
ladies look good let me just putit that way. They were on point
Nobody looked...Nobody lookedbad I'm just saying...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (29:29):
*interjects* But I think they were they were
set up to fail because no onecan get that attire right
because it doesn't exist. Whatis a lunchtime cocktail attire
Met Gala theme? I don't know...
Rosalinda Mendez (29:41):
Too many things. Too many things. So but
before everyone arrives at thisamazing Met Gala luncheon, which
is at a really nice Italianrestaurant in Salt Lake City.
Mary is having the table set upand it's quite beautiful, but I
wasn't sure where any plateswe're gonna go for food because
Sara Van Tuerenhout (30:02):
Yeah, I mean she had all of this like
really expensive swag, includingLouis Vuitton earbuds which I
didn't even know they made, andif you were wondering because I
was, you don't have to do theresearch, I'll tell you it--
they are $1,190 for probably subquality audio. It's just again,
rich people having too muchmoney and not knowing what to
(30:23):
spend it on. But yeah, she hasalso a Versailles pen,
monogramed journals, and someother things. So you can't even
see the plates or even wherethey would eat. There's just
like a ton of stuff. So clearly,Mary has put a lot of money into
this. But while they weresetting up and putting out the
expensive swag, one of the herassistants accidentally put the
journal upside down, and thenshe [Mary] was just going off on
(30:46):
them saying, "this is such ahuge mistake! Like can you even
read?"
Rosalinda Mendez (30:50):
Yeah, It's upside down. You can't... Yeah,
do you read? And she was justbeing very, very rude. She's
very dismissive. She's veryrude. And, you know, they're
trying to do their best. I mean,I don't know. You know, the Met
Gala is a lot of pressure.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:05):
I know. And they're doing this in probably
like an hour, and also they hadto set up beta fish ponds. Like
why, in what way is thatappetizing to see an aquarium
like six aquariums pretty muchon a table while I'm eating.
Like, what if the fish jumps outonto my plate? It just I- dont..
I don't see the logic in this.
Yeah. Butlike they went to Party City and
Rosalinda Mendez (31:23):
Yeah, it was very, very strange. So you know,
and then when the ladies arrive,it's very funny. They have I
don't know if it looks issupposed to look like FAO
Schwarz outside or something.
It's kind of Christmasy. So theyhave the it looks like the
guards from FAO Schwarz. They'rethe beef eater got their outfit.
Yeah, they'rethe Party City Beefeaters
(31:45):
because it almost looked likethey had Marge Simpson hair.
Because they weren't real likehats. They were made of felt. So
they were drooping whenever theywould take someone out of the
car...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:54):
And then their actual vest, I guess you
could say look like plasticfilm. None of it looked
professional or nice. It justfelt very chintzy to me, and if
you're going to dish out allthis money, you couldn't afford
at least like a cotton vest?
Rosalinda Mendez (32:10):
Exactly.
Although I will have to sayWhitney was incredibly impressed
by the red carpet.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:16):
Yeah, she was I mean, I think she really
just leaned into it because it'sso Mary. It really is. It's just
a mishmash of things and justkind of crazy and over the top,
and so Heather *Whitney* was allabout it, and honestly, I don't
know, I feel like I could beabout it too. Because you're
just at that point, you're infor the craziness. You're in for
the experience. You're ready tosee what's gonna happen.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:34):
Yeah, it you know, and and then they walked
in and they looked at all theswag, and they were like, whoa,
this is this is worth it. It'sworth like spending whatever
time we have to with crazy withcrazy Mary to like, be walking
away with all this cool swag.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:47):
I know.
Like, I wish I got some of thatswag.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:50):
I know. That was really funny. But then, you
know, they they sit down andagain, you know, it's not very
clear. Like, Jen's trying to notbe confrontational. She's
actually trying just to...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (33:04):
*interjects* Be nice.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:04):
....Be nice, and pick up the swag and go.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:07):
Well kind of, yeah. I mean, she's there to
try to just like be nice mendfences, because, again, whether
we want to admit it or not,these women are all on the same
TV show. It's produced. Theyhave to be friends. They have to
do things together. So you mightas well mend fences, and uh,
it's just very awkward.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:26):
Or at least be cordial...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:27):
At least..., exactly, at least be
cordial. But you definitely seethis tension between Jen and
Meredith and Mary and Jen.
Because those are the two womenshe [Jen] has slighted really,
but the whole idea and premiseof this luncheon is that they're
going to mend fences, be nice,get everything out on the table,
and so Mary has this idea forthem to write down like
(33:51):
something they don't like aboutthemselves or what was that?
Rosalinda Mendez (33:57):
It was what their weakness was.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:59):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:59):
What they felt they needed to work on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:02):
And then of course, like for so we go around
like Mary starts first, andhonestly, I don't really
remember what she said. She saidsomething about like being too
sensitive. I don't even know...
Rosalinda Mendez (34:12):
So Mary's weakness was something and again
You're right. I don't rememberexactly what she said.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:16):
Yeah, but then we get to Lisa who again we
we have so many biases againstthis woman, but please sponsor
us VIDA tequila. We will...
Rosalinda Mendez (34:26):
*interjects* Change our tune!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:27):
We can change our dude with a few
bottles. But anyway, we're notexpensive. But yeah, she goes
around and says her weakness isbeing you know, she like that
she tries too hard that she likedevotes herself too much to her
businesses. Which is pretty muchlike a non answer. It's like
(34:48):
what newbies give as theirweakness question like answer to
like a job interview
Rosalinda Mendez (34:54):
Yeah it sounds like they she didn't do like the
job interview thing you'resupposed to do, which is kind of
do the roleplay with somebodyyou know...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:01):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:02):
This is like one of those things like if you
did that they'd be like, "don'tdo that interview. It's not the
right answer."
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:07):
No..
Rosalinda Mendez (35:07):
No, it's not getting you the job...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:09):
No one wants to hear about how, you
know, you're a perfectionist.
You try to get everything toright or something. It's just
annoying. But yeah, unsurprisingfrom Lisa.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:20):
Yeah, and then we start to actually we start to
get people who actually start toopen up. So Jen starts to open
up a little bit about her beingTongan, and about how that has
affected her, since she's beenin Salt Lake City, because she
came at a very early age. So theperception of her in a
predominantly white culture wasjust like, okay, you're not
(35:42):
white, then you must be black,and so that was the identity and
what did she had to kind of dealwith, and so she wasn't able to
necessarily celebrate herculture or talk about her
culture, because people werejust looking at her one way, and
it caused her a lot of pain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:58):
Yeah, and I think this was a point she was
trying to emphasize to Mary andthat they could sympathize. As
both...Mary is black, and Jen isperceived as black. So they
could have kind of some commonground on what it's like to live
in Salt Lake City as a person ofcolor, and that kind of like
really fails because well, oneMary is the one that forced Jen
to speak up and say something,even though the whole point of
(36:20):
this exercise was to have themwrite stuff down, and then when
it was Jen's turn to go, she'slike, Oh, no, no, just say it
out loud, and she sets up thisrule where no one can interrupt
or talk back, while...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:33):
*interjects* Mary is setting up the rule.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:34):
Yes, Mary is setting up this rule that no
one can talk back or interruptsomeone's proclamation if you
want to say, but that's when westart getting into some fights.
Because Mary is now mad becausein Jen's, while she's talking
about how she grew up in that,in the Tongan culture, the first
child is kind of responsible foreverything, and it's like she
(36:56):
feels a lot of pressure to keepup with her family, and I guess
her business (we still don'tknow what she does.). But that's
why she kind of lashed out atMeredith, and so she apologized
to Meredith. But she does notapologize to Mary for calling
her grandpa MFer in front of 30plus people at Whitney's 20w
Party, which is kind of where itleaves off.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:18):
And we are left again...
Sara Van Tuere (37:19):
*interjects*with a two parter because there's
just not enough to be continuedin this show....
Rosalinda Mendez (37:23):
Exactly. I mean, this is, at this point,
you just gotta quit that, like,I don't know, did they have like
the guy in the titlingdepartment get like a raise, and
so he gets to title everythingat the end. Like??
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:34):
I have no clue because, honestly, I--
Rosalinda Mendez (37:37):
*interjects* To be continued...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:38):
Yeah, I think Bravo's having this idea
that maybe because of COVID.
We're all saturated with thingsto watch, and our favorite women
aren't back yet, you know, theother major franchises, and this
is a new one. So they want tokeep people on the line on the
hook, and so they're like, Oh,well, if we keep doing To be
continued episodes, they'll beforced to watch the next one.
But at some point, I'm tired.
(38:00):
I'm tired. Like I like thisshow. It's good. Obviously, we
wouldn't be having a podcasttalking about it. If we didn't
like this show. But at somepoint, if they keep if the rest
of the season is to becontinued. I will jump off a
cliff because this is too much.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:16):
So kind of, you know, going with that theme.
We have come to the end of ourpodcast, but it's To be
continued because we still don'tknow what's happened at this
luncheon...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (38:26):
*interjects* Luncheon. Yes.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:28):
...Yet. So the Met Gala luncheon will
continue...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (38:32):
To be continued next time for Episode
Five. But yeah, thank you somuch for listening this far into
our ramblings, if you wouldn'tmind subscribing, dropping like,
a review, or a comment. That'dbe awesome. We look forward to
seeing you in the next one.
Rosalinda Mendez (38:47):
See you later!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (38:48):
Bye.
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