December 30, 2020 • 37 mins
In a change of pace, Sara and Rosalinda get to break down the relatively drama-free Sundance City girls in action. They first take a look at the infamous Stew-Chainz and get a sneak peek into Whitney and Justin's home life if you know what I mean... They discuss the technicalities of the "grandpa MFer" comment by Jen and try to wrap their minds around how Mary knows nothing about her cousin, who also happens to be their maid?! Next, they look at the main event - Shah's Sundance party or rather - Operation get Heather laid. In true Housewives fashion, the duo talks gossip about whether or not Lisa Barlow really is the "Queen of Sundance" or rather just the Queen of too many tequilas...(plz sponsor us VIDA!). Moving along, they start to talk about Brooks' self-titled fashion line and wonder how far his Adidas knockoffs will go. Finally, the two discuss the viability of the franchise in the future and how it compares to other franchises at the moment.
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Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:07):
Hey guys! Welcome back to Met Gala
luncheon. I'm your host, SarahVan Tuerenhout, and I'm joined
Rosalinda Mendez (00:13):
Rosalinda!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:14):
And this is the podcast where we break down
our favorite reality TV showsand dive into the craziness that
ensues. This week, we're lookingat The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City, Episode Six,"Sundance city."
Rosalinda Mendez (00:27):
And now we're getting to the crux of
everything because literally, wekept hearing about Sundance,
from so many different people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:34):
Mainly Lisa. But yes, I'm excited to
see Sundance. Honestly, besidesthat it's a film festival, and
like some great movies gothrough there. I didn't know it
was this big, big ordeal.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:45):
Oh, yeah. I mean, Sundance is giant. So it
was started by Robert Redford, Ithink back in the 90s, and it
has been the place for indiefilm. It's the place that most
independent small films getpicked up and distributed. So it
is a thing but it's nowbecome... every time it becomes
it's kind of like a little bitlike it's got the same kind of
(01:05):
reputation in terms of gettingbigger, kind of like South by
Southwest got bigger, becauseSouth by Southwest used to just
be a bunch of bands come intoplay a lot of indie bands
coming. So that could be seen byA&R people, kind of the same
thing was happening with thefilms that were coming to
Sundance, and it's just kind ofblossomed. So it's getting
bigger and bigger. So you haveall kinds of, you know, big
(01:29):
gatherings of different kinds offilmmakers, different kinds of
writers, actors, activists,things like that are now having
like, breakout sessions. So it'snot just about the films that
are coming. So yeah...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:44):
Yeah.
Because like when Lisa's calledthe Sundance Queen, like in my
head Sundance is, like you said,an indie kind of Film Festival,
and when I look at Lisa, shedoesn't scream indie.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:56):
Right, no, but you know, she's all about
throwing a party...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:59):
True. But we start this episode off with a
sneak peek into Jen Shah. Wefinally get to see her in an
office.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:07):
Right, even though it's a little bit silly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:09):
Yeah, we see her assistant Stewart who
she lovingly callsStew-Chainz...
Rosalinda Mendez (02:15):
Because he got drunk at a Sundance party and
pretended to be a rapper.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:20):
Yeah, and we see also Jen is rollerskating
around her office, and is tryingto do the hula hoop. She's
having a great time. But I wasactually just surprised to see
her in an office, and clearlyshe does.... she has like some
marketing firm.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:36):
Yeah, but it's again, still not clear. I mean,
the thing is, is like it's onething to have a marketing firm
and have a staff. But I stilldon't understand why she has
eight assistants. I mean, I knowa lot of executives here in
Houston that run oil companies,and they don't have eight
assistants. It seems like amarketing person probably should
(02:57):
maybe have one, maybe two.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:59):
But I mean, do they have someone at home?
Rosalinda Mendez (03:01):
Maybe. But I'm not sure that they have this
many people running aroundsaying they're your assistant,
and then you've got a main one,which is Stew-. So...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (03:10):
*interjects* Stew-Chainz...
Rosalinda Mendez (03:10):
Stew-Chainz the rapper. So yeah, so that was
interesting. You're right, andyeah, and then we kind of move
over...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (03:18):
*interjects* To Mary because we can't have
Jen without our polar oppositeMary. It's a little yin and yang
situation. When you have onescene of Jen, you must balance
that with the scene of Mary, andhere Mary just keeps digging her
grave. She just keeps peelingback her layers and I just want
to stop. I don't want to see anymore. Please. Save yourself.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:43):
Right. Just don't say anything.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:45):
Yeah, she just needs to be quiet because
every time she opens her mouth,she just says some more
outrageous things because we seethe scene. I believe she's
getting ready for I believeJustin's party that's Whitney's
husband.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:59):
He's having his 50th birthday.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:00):
50th birthday.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:01):
So it's gonna be a blowout.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:02):
Yes, and she's getting ready, and you...
we see her maid, which I believeher name is Charlinda.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:12):
Yeah, I believe so.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:13):
And we've seen her in a couple other
episodes. But now we actuallyget to know a little bit more
about her probably all that Maryknows about her. As we'll talk
about in a sec, but she is herMary's grandmother's brother's
child. So this maid is relatedto Mary.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:30):
Right, and she kind of introduces her in that
somehow she came over to give agift to Robert senior...
...Or junior,sorry, and fell in love with
Sara Van Tuerenhou (04:38):
*interjects* Junior
him. Which I'm assuming she justthought he was the cutest thing
in the world, and then neverleft.
Yeah, anddecided to just drop her life
and become a maid. That justsounds a little weird to me and
my idea of family like Iwouldn't make my family work for
(04:58):
me.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:58):
Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is I guess I
mean, the way it sounded to mewas like, maybe she came over,
they got to, you know, talking,maybe, maybe Charlinda said she
needed some help, and Mary'slike, Oh, I can hire you, which
I mean, I can see family helpingfamily. But the thing that's
(05:18):
just crazy to me is that, youknow, she's dancing around with
her, like having fun doing allthis stuff, and then she very
just casually says, like, or notnot even casually, in some ways,
it's like very hard, and shesays, you know, well, I don't
know anything about her life,you know, except for what she
does for me. I don't know, anybackstory. I don't know anything
(05:40):
about it like that, and then shehas, but at the end of the day,
we're family, and I'm like, Thatmakes no sense. Because if she
is your family, you know abouther, all of her family because
they're YOUR family.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:52):
Yeah, the whole thing just felt very
callous, and just gave usfurther insight into the self
absorbed nature of Mary, like wethought Lisa was self absorbed.
At least Lisa kinda showsinterest in other people
occasionally. We haven't reallyseen an instance where Mary
shows interest in someone elseand asking about someone else,
because truly, if you thinkabout it, all of our scenes with
(06:14):
Mary has been her talking abouther, and how she's better than
other people, and thateveryone's jealous of her. So
she really has this like, youknow, narcissistic personality.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:25):
Yeah. Because part of it is, is that even
though when she was trying tohelp Whitney with her dad, and
she said, Bring him to mychurch, and we will pray for
him. It was kind of clear thatthat was like supposed to be
like, I don't know, part of theshow. Like, here's me. Look how
great I am. I'm bringing myfriends here. I'm doing the
(06:48):
circle of love around him. Butdidn't we even mention she
didn't even remember his name?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:53):
Yeah, she didn't even bother to learn his
name, and like, I don't evenknow this man, and I know his
name is Steve. Hopefully,otherwise, that's very
embarrassing for me. But yeah,it's just if you're going to
pray for someone and asking, youknow, I don't know for God's
help or something. Like whywould you even bother to
(07:13):
learn... Like, "hey, Whitney,what's your dad's name?"
Rosalinda Mendez (07:15):
Yeah, I was to me, it that just was like a
little bit of a, aha, that's whyWhy is she? This just seems to
be self aggrandizing for her,and this is a good prop, and you
know, it's probably a good thingto film, because it made her
seem like a very caringindividual. But as we're finding
(07:36):
out episode to episode is thatshe doesn't give any F's about
anybody except herself.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (07:41):
Yeah, absolutely not. I just, I don't
know. It really leaves a sickfeeling in my stomach, how she's
treating Charlinda, becausethat's family, and she's now
worked there for what, 17, 18years? And this, like, why
wouldn't you just help a familymember out and give them money?
Or like I get maybe hiring themto like work around the church,
(08:03):
but like, be at your beck andcall make your beds like that?
Rosalinda Mendez (08:08):
I know, she's really treating her like she's
an indentured servant.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:11):
Yeah, the whole thing just kind of feels
messed up to me, and justfurther shows how she sees
anyone, really below hersocioeconomic status. Anyone
that's not her is below her inevery way and don't deserve her
respect or want like, herattention.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:30):
Yeah. So. So, I mean, so yeah, so the thing
is, is it's just very, it'sdisconcerting seeing all the
things she's done, and, youknow, lately things have come
out. In terms of her behavior.
There's, there was a supposedlya leaked tape of her talking
about some poor people in thecongregation who got together to
(08:53):
give her a gift, and she wasbasically like, it wasn't she
was, you know, it wasn't worthyof her, and she didn't think it
was good enough, and...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (09:03):
*interjects* Because it was cheap or
Rosalinda Mendez (09:04):
Yeah. So my thing is, is that literally, she
something.
can't even appreciate a giftfrom someone who's not of her
socioeconomic background, and tome, the more and more that comes
out, and like the fact thatshe's trying to sue people and
trying to get things taken offof websites and all these
things. So she's really tryingto curate who she wants people
(09:26):
to see her as, but it's reallyclear that that's just not her.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:30):
Yeah, she just clearly is not a nice
person and only cares aboutherself, which only further
makes me believe that she didkind of contrive this whole
relationship with Robert Sr.,which I talked about in a
previous episode. So if you wantto know my thoughts on that,
check out Episode Three, Ibelieve. But yeah, I don't know.
(09:50):
I I can't imagine it getting anyworse. But as we know, with all
Housewives, it can always getworse.
Rosalinda Mendez (09:58):
Yeah, there should be kind of... something
in stone that says that it canalways get worse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:04):
It really can. But then we move on to kind
of more fun topic, Justin's kindof club party that Whitney
throwing for his 50th birthday.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:15):
Yeah, it's really funny. You can kind of
see, you know that Justin gotthe girl he wanted. He wanted a
girl who could throw down andhave fun.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:23):
Oh, yeah. I mean, like, the first thing we
see at this party, I believe isat Whitney's house, and you see
him taking body shots off ofWhitney. So I mean, you know,
it's gonna be a good night.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:33):
Yeah, their pregame was pretty amazing...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:35):
And then you have a party bus with I
believe, a stripper pole, andthen they drive up to this big
mega mansion, which apparentlyis owned by the real Queen of
Sundance, but I you know, we'llgive it to Lisa. But you know,
wink wink, nudge nudge.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:53):
Yeah, no, and so but you know, and basically
this friend of hers always lendsthe house out. So they always
kind of start at Whitney's, takethe party bus, and then end up
at the mansion, having a goodtime. But, yeah, it looked like
yeah, an episode of Girls GoneWild. But I mean, but again, you
see him and he is so in lovewith her, and he is like having
(11:15):
so much fun, and it's just verylight. I mean, you can see why
they're together.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:21):
No, 100%, and I obviously, you know, we
don't know, the background 100%,you know, on a personal level of
how they got together. But, youknow, seeing them as they are
now I can't imagine why youwould hate this couple.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:34):
Right, and all the ladies are showing up to
this party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:38):
Yeah. and actually, surprisingly, barring
one incident, we'll talk aboutjust after this. But everyone
actually seemed to be prettycivil, and were nice, and it
didn't end in a huge blowout,which was surprising that they
even aired the party in general,maybe it was just because of the
body shots, because everyone wasactually being really nice, and
it was actually very pleasant towatch.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:58):
Yeah, except you had the best part of this
whole thing with, you know, Jen,again, you want to be team Jen
all the way, and then Jen willdo something kind of silly,
where she's talking about.
Basically, she's rewritinghistory. I mean, she's telling
the truth. I mean, is shetelling the truth? Yes, but come
on. You know, she's like, Inever called, you know, you
(12:20):
know, Mary an MFer, and thenit's like, Yes, you did. It's on
tape, and then her wholetechnical things like, Well, I
didn't say it to her face.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (12:31):
Well, yeah, we well we learned that part
from Watch What Happens L!vewhen Andy kind of questioned her
about it. But yeah, in themoment, we see Mary go up to
Jen, and ask, Hey, what was thatwhole thing about? and then
clearly, neither of them want tomend fences...
Rosalinda Mendez (12:51):
Right. But I think the thing is that even in
that episode, Jen is still kindof like, I didn't say it to you.
I mean, she even then says, Inever said that to you, and it's
like, Yeah, but the wholerestaurant could hear it, and on
Watch What Happens L!ve. She waslike, oh, there was lots of
music and whatever, and I waslike, Yeah....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (13:11):
*interjects* But everyone turned their heads
when that happened.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:12):
Like you were not that far away, and it well,
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:15):
It was rude, but it was true. But I'm
you just made a scene. So peopleheard it, and if they didn't
hear it, they heard it by peopletalking about it, who did hear
glad they didn't let the fightblow up Justin's party.
it. So it was a thing, and thefact that she now is just trying
to say, well, because I neversaid it to your face. Well, it
doesn't matter if you didn't sayit to her face. You said it, and
it was just rude and out ofplace. So...
Rosalinda Mendez (13:44):
And again, we can just be curious as to who
Heather which grandpa Heatherdid.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:49):
I know. I'm so intrigued. Please, Heather.
Drop a photo. I want to see thisman.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:54):
Exactly. So yeah, so that was that was short
but interesting. You know, thething is, I guess, again, I
mean, I gotta say, if I'm one ofthese Housewives, I'm liking the
editing if I'm Whitney. Becauselike literally, they have not
done anything to Whitney. Imean, they sometimes make or
seem a little bit silly, and alittle bit, you know, like party
(14:17):
girl-ish. But you know what,she's just light hearted and
fun.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:21):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I wouldn't even
take that as a negative editingshot of her. I, I do remember
seeing some preview episodesfrom I think before the season
dropped. It was like the, youknow, little teaser and we do
see Heather and Whitney getting,not between each other, but like
getting into some heated wordswith other people. So I am
(14:45):
actually kinda excited to seethem get into the drama because
let's be honest, we all watchthe show for the drama. We don't
care if these people areactually friends. We want to see
it go down. But speaking of itgoing down, kind of we go to
Jen's Sundance party.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:02):
Yeah, and this is my favorite part because
Bravo, we love a crossover. Sowe get some Vanderpump rules
people that are coming in. SoLala and Katie come in, because
they're both from Utah, and sothey get invited to Jen's party
because Jen's cousin has done afilm about a rap group in Salt
(15:26):
Lake City, and he's adocumentarian, and so she's
having the VIP party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:31):
Yeah, she's having the VIP viewing party,
and it's actually an all aroundpleasant, pleasant event. Again,
I guess the the ladies reallypull it together for Sundance
week, and are kind of civil,because pretty much the whole
arc, I guess, if you want tocall it for this party is kind
of focusing on Heather's datingor really sex life, which
(15:54):
actually is really interestingto see Heather out into the
wild.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:57):
Yeah, the funny thing is, is that you she
goes on, like might go, this isthis is a party for my cousin,
and you know, he's doing allthese great things and whatever,
and then later, they're like,Oh, no, this is just a party to
get Heather laid.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:09):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and like Heather outrightsays, "Oh, yeah, I'm just
looking for sex. I don't reallycare about love," and there's
some background on that, that Iwould like to touch on, which we
before the party, there is ascene with Heather and Whitney,
they went to go to a bar, andthey were talking about kind of
Heather's dating life in Utah,which kind of is stinted because
(16:30):
she's a divorced woman andsomeone her age and her, I guess
you could call it status ormarriage status of being
divorced, doesn't lend itself toa lot of options in the dating
pool, unfortunately, in SaltLake City. So I'm kind of glad
that you know, she's feelingherself and she's out there,
(16:50):
and, yeah, she's not looking fora relationship, but at least you
know, she can still have a goodtime.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:56):
Yeah, and you kind of see Heather's again, we
talked about this before, whereshe really has this, somehow she
feels like it's a stigma thatshe's divorced. She also, you
get a little bit of anunderstanding, too, when she's
talking to her children, becausethey're talking about going to
church, and, you know, they'relike, we don't want to go to
(17:17):
church, because basically,people look at us as sinners,
and you know, it's not asexciting, and yet Heather even
says, you know, everybody was,we were all kind of in the
circle until we got divorced,and even though, you know, we're
still have the money, and westill are doing okay, whereas,
you know, the kids don't getinvited to the same parties, and
(17:38):
she kind of feels like that'skind of extended to her and her
dating life. So she's justpretty much cemented the fact
that she can't date in Salt LakeCity.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:46):
Yeah, and I think also she has this kind of
skewed outlook on love, becauseshe's, she says she's never
really been in love, and exceptfor one time when she was 15,
and it was unrequited. So she'snever, you know, been in love
where both parties are in lovewith each other.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:05):
Right, and this is where she says she feels
like she has common ground withMary. Right, where she says,
like, we married for faith,right? So she wanted to marry
into Mormon royalty. So she did,and, you know, so that was she
picked her faith over her actualfeelings.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:23):
Yeah. But it doesn't stop her from getting
down.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:26):
No, it doesn't. So the good thing is,
is, since Lala and Katie are intown, they try to give her a
little pep talk while she'sthere, like trying to make sure
that she understands that, hey,you may not be looking for love.
Like Mr. Right, you're lookingfor Mr. Right now. So they sent
her over to deal with a techieguy that was working on the
film, well and her game ispretty bad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:48):
Oh, yeah. I mean, she came on so strong, and
she was just talking about, oh,how big your *his* equipment is,
and it was just I don't know.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:58):
Yeah, like first she kind of says, Hey, I
like that projector, and he'slike, it's a printer. Or maybe
it was the other way around.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:05):
No. Yeah.
She thought it was a printer,and he was like, it's a
projector, and she wouldn't shutup about how big it was, and
how, Oh, I didn't see it. Ididn't see you behind it because
your equipment was so big,and...
Rosalinda Mendez (19:18):
Yeah, her game is bad. Like, Heather. I know. I
think she needs to go hang outwith Katie and Lala a little bit
to get her game back on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:25):
Because like my thing there though. It's
I mean, I'm obviously like, I'msure the dating pool is kind of
small due to how kind ofjudgmental it is there. But part
of me is wondering if it's justbecause she has no game. She
can't find anyone.
Rosalinda Mendez (19:41):
I know. Like, I just she was lucky. There was
an out of town guy who obviouslywas horny and like it was
like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:47):
I know. I mean, clearly it shows you that.
It is not hard to get laid ifyou're straight.
Rosalinda Mendez (19:52):
I guess so.
Yeah, it was it was to me it wasreally interesting that they
that they kind of went there andI just love the fact that she
goes, "I had to snap him upbefore some other Cougar comes
and takes him. I'm like
Sara Van Tuerenhou (20:05):
*interjects* She's like, "we got to go right
literally....
now. It's like she was enactingsome fire drill. Like, we gotta
go. We gotta go right now. Let'sgo. Let's go. Like out the door
out the door. It's just like,you know what? Good for her. I'm
happy she got laid, and ishaving a good time.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:22):
Yeah, no, yeah, way to go. Heather!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:24):
And Jen's goal of getting Heather laid,
which was apparently the wholepurpose of the party was
successful. So the party was asuccess.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:31):
Yeah, sounds like the film was good. Heather
got laid. There were no majorfights at the party. It was all
good.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:38):
Yeah. Which speaking again, of the
crossover, we have with Lala andKatie, there's a little bit of
gossip controversy that I alwayslike to sprinkle in here now,
and there is this thing whereKatie kind of shaded Lisa saying
she'd never heard of her before,because she's from...
Rosalinda Mendez (20:57):
*interjects* Park City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:59):
Yeah. So she would know the Sundance
players, and she was like, I'venever heard of Lisa Barlow
before.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:05):
I know, and Katie would also pride herself
on like, you know, knowing allthe movers and shakers since you
know, clearly you know, herhusband Tom is part of TomTom
and, and they actually talkabout going to Salt Lake City a
lot. Like, it seems like oftenon Vanderpump rules, the girls
will do girls trips and go toSalt Lake City, and before I
(21:25):
think the last couple ofseasons, they've talked about
the fact now that they've got alittle bit money in their pocket
that they're buying houses inSalt Lake City. So and you know,
Lala was there because she wasdoing her own film debut,
because her husband Rand is amovie director and producer. So
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she was there for her film. Soit was, it was it was a good
crossover, and but you know,again, and you know, the
Vanderpump rules, kids, youknow, they are going to be out
for shade all the time, and Iwould not go try to go into a
shade contest with any of thosekids, because they're going to
beat you every time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:06):
So I mean, do you believe her? Do you think
that Lisa Barlow is not reallythe queen of Sundance?
Rosalinda Mendez (22:12):
I believe that she's the second person who said
that because like basically,Whitney straight up said that
when she was talking about herfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:19):
Oh, the other woman.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:20):
Yeah, and so like, don't tell Lisa. But like,
literally, I think that's justher moniker because that's kind
of her thing, and so she waslike, Well, she's probably the
queen of Sundance, to the othercast members of The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:37):
But like the Sundance people, probably.
She's probably mid-tier youthink?
Rosalinda Mendez (22:40):
She's like an event planner. I mean, she does
a lot of stuff. I wouldn't sayshe was the queen of Sundance, I
think because she does a lot ofevents for a lot of different
companies. She can get peopleextra tickets, she can get
people in and it looks like shedoes really well at her job. I'm
not trying to shade her businessat all, I think...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (22:58):
*interjects* Oh no, I mean, the shots we saw
of the events were really cool.
Like they had that, likepeelable sticker lotto type
thing that was similar to theMcDonald's monopoly.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:09):
Yeah, and she's got some free labor in the
husband.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:12):
Yeah. Where I love how she prepped him for
that interview asking about "Oh,like, how do you like working
for your wife?" And he was like,"Oh, well, she's a great boss. I
love working for her," and theywere like, "did your wife prep
you for that?" And you can hearher laugh in the background. So
she's there watching him givethis interview and he was like,
I can't say.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:33):
He's like I can neither confirm or deny.
Like, it was great.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:36):
He knows his place.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:37):
Exactly. But yeah, so no, I think No, I think
she probably does a good job.
I'm just saying that she I don'tthink she's necessarily the
queen of Sundance, but and Iwould it wouldn't be beyond
Katie at just trying to throwsome shade just to throw some
shade because that's who she is.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:54):
True. I'll take your word for it. I don't
want to Vanderpump rules.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:47):
Exactly.
That's like, Project Runway fax pas. Number one.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:53):
But I was also surprised to hear about
this Park City Fashion Week.
That is so random. Aren't thereenough fashion weeks?
Rosalinda Mendez (24:59):
Well, I don't if there's no fashion weeks, but
I'm just kind of trying to say,it's, it's kind of like, again,
like South by Southwest whereevery I think season they have
it or every year they have itthat they add different things.
So this is the first thing. Nowthe interesting thing is, is
that I will have to say, I don'tknow, we haven't seen the tier
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of all the fashion shows orwhat's going on, and I don't
know if it's just winter wearand like athleisure that they're
doing, which, you know, I'm notsure there's a ton of people
doing that in any other FashionWeek. So it kind of makes sense
that you could have like a nichekind of fashion week where
you're doing like, ski suits andyou know, after ski stuff and
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things like that are morecasual, which seems kind of like
what it was.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:45):
No, yeah, I mean, it definitely did look
more like athleisure but youknow, like designer athleisure
like designer, sweatshirts,designer, sweat pants type deal.
Rosalinda Mendez (25:55):
It is a joy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:55):
But from that party, we're really just
going from party to party. Weget into the topic of Brooks
fashion line, which we firstkind of get a glimpse of when he
went to his mother store,Meredith, and you can see some
of his stuff is there, and I'mnot not gonna lie. It looks kind
of like Adidas knockoffs and itjust happens to have his name on
it.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:02):
Which we know from Project Runway is something
you don't do.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:03):
You don't brand something with your name
when nobody knows who you are.
It's like why do I care aboutwhat's his name? Brooks? Meadow?
I don't even know his last name.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:06):
Yeah, I don't know his last name either.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:06):
So I mean, see it clearly. I mean, love you
Brooks. But honey, why would Ibuy your brand if it has your
name on it?
Yeah, and in this, we do seeBrooks getting ready for it, and
you you start to see the tollthat, you know, their separation
is taking on the family.
stress, which is apparently notone of the reasons why he came,
he took off a semester.
According to Meredith on WatchWhat Happens L!ve, all of her
kids take off the secondsemester of their junior year to
do an internship, which thathe's a second semester Junior.
So he...
Rosalinda Mendez (26:27):
*interjects* Is getting his fashion line
together.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:30):
Exactly. So pretty much. You see him getting
ready for his fashion line, andyou can tell he's still totally
kid, and I get it too, because Ibelieve we're the same age, I
believe we're both 21, and hewas still asking his mom like,
"oh, could you call the ladytelling her that I'm going to be
late?" Can you get me this? Canyou get me that? Which I totally
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get. I still don't like havingto call the doctor for
appointments and things. So Ican't fault him too much on that
one.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:00):
But as a good mother, she tells him he has to
do it himself.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:04):
Yeah.
Because I mean, this is kind ofhis big first business venture
into his fashion line. So hekind of has to be a big boy and
call the lady and tell them,they're gonna be late, and of
course, Murphy's Law kicks inwith full effect, because I
don't even know how thishappened. The toilet just...
just....
Rosalinda Mendez (27:22):
*interjects* Randomly started overflowing,
and then it set off an alarm.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:25):
Yeah, the like smoke alarm went off, and
the toilet was floodingeverywhere, and they were
already late, and now they werejust getting even more late.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:35):
Right, and then they're like, who do you
call? Or what do you do?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:38):
And he has no clue what to do, and his
mom's obviously taking care ofit.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:42):
But his mom doesn't know what to do either.
So I think she finally calls thelandlord because I think they're
renting, I don't think they ownthat, where they're staying. So
she was trying to get the eitherproperty manager or somebody
she's like, Oh, God, I don'tknow. It's just overflowing and
everything is going on, and wegot to go.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:57):
Yeah, so you know, we'll leave the door
open, and this better be cleanedup by the time we get back.
Rosalinda Mendez (28:02):
Yeah. So the next thing we see after you
know, there's a major kind ofmeltdown at...at the house. You
see Brooks and Meredith andthey're talking about, you know,
the fact that his dad isn'tcoming and you know.
Yeah, but we also see that he'stwo hours late.
Yeah, we do. We see that he'sreally late.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:23):
And...
Rosalinda Mendez (28:24):
*interjects* And my favorite thing is like,
when he's there, and he's behindstage, and he's seeing
everything, and he's a littleawestruck. He's like, "gee, I
don't even know how I got tothis point," and I'm like, and
then he kind of corrects himselfand goes, Yeah, I know. Cuz my
mom.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:37):
Yeah, I mean, I kind of did like that
little self aware moment. Youknow, he recognizes he
definitely would not have gottenthis opportunity without his
mom. But I think it was stillkind of cute, and you know what,
at the end of the day, yeah, hismom gave it to him, but he still
had to put in the work ofcreating the line, and which my
mom rolls her eyes at, and wedisagree a little bit, and we
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can talk about that in a sec.
But yeah, so he goes on therunway, and you can see the
separation take a toll becausehe's really upset that his dad
was not going to be able to makeit to his show.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:11):
But his dad did send him a video text, which
was nice. A little video. I- myfavorite thing that his dad said
was, you know, get out of yourown way.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (29:22):
Yeah, no, that was cute.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:23):
Which was probably the truest thing he
said on that.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (29:26):
Yeah. Well, my thing though, it's like, I
get like, they did a littleflash backwards, and they showed
that, that it was a week earlierthat Meredith had said she
needed space, but I think forsomething as big as your first
fashion show. What whether hedid it on his own or not. He
still had to put in some work hewalked too. I think that's
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something your parents should goto.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:51):
Yeah, I don't disagree. I think that um, and
Meredith even says that, like,you know, in retrospect, we
should have like taken his[Brooks] feelings. consideration
before she kind of banished him[Seth] to be away, and it but at
some point he should have just Imean, it's not like he didn't
know that this was going tohappen a week before. So he
probably should have said, Canwe just do this? Can we start
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this like longer term separationafter Brooks's fashion show?
Like, I think they should havebeen more self aware about what
was going on with how the familydynamic was going to take it,
because he was sad because hissister wasn't there. He was sad
that he didn't have friendsthere. But it was a really big
deal, and it is a really bigdeal. I mean, it's funny to me,
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you know, actually, Fashion Weekis everywhere, is like part of
almost every Housewife franchiseat some point, you know,
basically, you know, the NewYork women are always at Fashion
Week, and then the New Jerseypeople...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (30:49):
*interjects* Or even walking at it....
Rosalinda Mendez (30:50):
Yeah, and the New Jersey, the New Jersey
people...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (30:52):
*interjects* Ramona eyes.
Rosalinda Mendez (30:53):
Exactly. Well that was at Brooklyn Fashion
Week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (30:56):
You're right.
Rosalinda Mendez (30:57):
But they had, but yeah, so like, you know,
some of the Jersey Housewiveskids walked in fashion week. You
know, obviously Yolanda'sbecause...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:08):
Gigi, and Bella.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:09):
They're, they're, you know, we're at
Fashion Week, and, you know,Rinna's kids have a fashion line
and on OC Bronwyn's child has afashion line, and so it's it
seems to be the thing that ifyou are the offspring of a Real
Housewife, somehow, you're goingto end up in a fashion week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:30):
I wouldn't wish for that. That seems like a
lot of work.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:32):
It is a lot of work.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:33):
So please don't sign up for The Real
Housewives of Houston if theyever try again.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:37):
I promise won't happen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:40):
But yeah, thankfully, again, we are
released from the shackles ofthe To be continued.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:46):
But we actually will continue the
Fashion Week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:48):
Yeah, we didn't ever get to see the whole
show. So that's a little bit ofa cliffhanger if you want to
call it that. But there's no bigdrama. It actually was a pretty
drama free episode. So not thatmuch happened, which was kind of
nice. Although, you know, I'ma... I'm a reality TV show
watcher. Give me the drama. Iwant to see it.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:11):
I know. But it was kind of nice to learn a
little bit about each of thehousewives a little bit more.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:16):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:17):
And again, I think we had just the right
amount of....Well actually, wecould have done with no Mary
this time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:23):
Yeah, I really, I'm so over Mary. If she
doesn't come back for anotherseason. I mean, we haven't even
finished this season and I'malready over her. But if she
didn't come back for anotherseason, which I think she's
definitely leaning towardsconsidering all of the blocking
and things that we've beentalking about that she's doing.
Like, I'll be much more happy.
Although, question for you. Doyou think that this is a
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franchise made to last? I'mgetting the feeling no?
Rosalinda Mendez (32:48):
Well, no, I don't know. It's it's hard to
tell. I think it's too early. Ithink...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (32:52):
*interjects* It's too early to call.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:54):
...Because like Miami had a few seasons. I
want to say even maybe DC hadtwo, or maybe it was only one,
but DC was really off the rails.
Like, it went from just beingoutrageous to being boring. You
know, they broke the law, whichwas like, a big deal when they
like snuck into the White House.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:18):
Oh.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:18):
So that was I mean, there were lots of things
that happened that were like,and the people weren't as
interesting, at least in thiscase, the the girls are
interesting.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:29):
No, I like the show so far. I just I
though, I guess like allHousewives are kind of taking a
turn considering, I guess howold you want to say the medium
is. It's kind of getting alittle repetitive.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:42):
Well, I think that they're thinking that some
franchises.... I've kind ofheard this kind of going around
like everyone's like, eitherOrange County needs a total
reboot...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (33:52):
*interjects* Or just cut it off?
Rosalinda Mendez (33:53):
Or just cut it off that it's over. Like it's it
was the original, but it's timefor it to go because like
there's nobody that's veryinteresting on it anymore. The
Sara Van Tuerenhou (34:00):
*interjects* And I think the same is being
storylines are, you know, thepeople that are left can't
really carry the franchise likeit used to be carried, and so..
said about Atlanta, too.
Rosalinda Mendez (34:12):
Yeah, but the thing is, I think Atlanta still
has a lot of fire in it. So youstill have a lot of fiery
personalities, I would say, andobviously Potomac is poppin all
the time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:24):
Yeah, I think it's the number one right
now.
Rosalinda Mendez (34:25):
So and then New York, you're gonna I mean,
we were gonna watch Ebony comeon. So that'll be interesting
coming on, and you know, we gotLeah last season. So even though
we sadly don't have Bethenny, westill have Ramona and Sonja...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (34:39):
*interjects* Yes, Ramonja!
Rosalinda Mendez (34:41):
...Who technically they can carry the
franchise, but I think they werehoping that you know, Salt Lake
City would be something wherethey could offload maybe one of
the one of the other ones whichI think is going to be Orange
County. Although, you know,again, it'll be interesting to
see what happens with BeverlyHills because I'm not sure that
that franchise... I mean, I loveKyle. I mean, I love Erika
(35:03):
Jayne, but like and yeah, Dorit.
I mean, the thing is, is I justI don't know what's going to
happen with Erika Jayne, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (35:11):
*interjects* Falling out of grace.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:13):
Yeah, and because I'm not seeing the fact
that she would want that everportrayed on TV.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:18):
No, I mean, because she wants to be perfect,
and I love Erika Jayne, and Ihavent actually gotten to her
season completely because I'mwatching from the beginning.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:26):
Oh, I love her too. She's my favorite one on
there. But I don't see her beingthe kind of person who is going
to want to have this splatteredall over...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (35:35):
*interjects* conversation?
Rosalinda Mendez (35:36):
Yeah, especially because the innuendo
is that they're not reallygetting divorced. They're
getting divorced, so that, youknow, he's not as liable or that
you know, she gets to like, notbe kind of drug through the mud,
which is, I guess, at leastchivalrous of Tom. But I think
part of it is also so Tom is notin so much trouble. So who
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knows? But literally, I thinkthey're looking for new options.
So we'll see, and, I mean,obviously, I'm actually okay, if
Dallas never came back. Like ifI think if you watched Dallas,
you would have the same feelingyou're feeling right now about
you know, is this going to besomething that will last? I kept
saying after the first season ofDallas, it's not coming back and
it keeps coming back.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:19):
It's like the thing that never dies...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:21):
The herpes of housewives.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:25):
This is why I'm saying why can't they do a
Real Housewives of Houston. I'mmad. There are a bunch of big
personalities here. I think it'sBS that Andy couldn't find a
cast of women that were crazy.
Just go to Memorial. Just go toRiver Oaks. Andy please.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:38):
Oh, you go to like Sugar Land.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:41):
Oh, my--, that would be perfect.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:42):
Do you have some 281ers in there? And yeah,
it would be it would be off thechain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:47):
It would be gold.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:48):
It would be gold.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:49):
I think Bravo...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:50):
We have crazy socialites here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:52):
I know, and we don't even see them on TV.
They're not even being filmed.
Could you imagine if they'rebeing filmed? Oh, my God.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:57):
I know it would be I mean, we had murders
and all kinds of great things.
We like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:02):
Great things - murders.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:04):
Well, you know, it's like the crazy
ostentatious thing thathappened. So you know...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:08):
F*** Dallas.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Dallas is just what it is... Abunch of plastic people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:13):
Says the Dallasite.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:14):
Exactly.
That's why I'm in Houston.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:19):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:19):
Anyway, so that wraps us up for this....
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:22):
Yeah, that's our episode. Thanks for
listening to our rambling sofar. If you wouldn't mind
dropping a like, a comment,subscribing, that would be
greatly appreciated, and we willsee you on the next one!
Rosalinda Mendez (37:34):
Yeah, take
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:44):
Bye!
Hey guys! Welcome back to Met Gala
luncheon. I'm your host, SarahVan Tuerenhout, and I'm joined
Rosalinda Mendez (00:13):
Rosalinda!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:14):
And this is the podcast where we break down
our favorite reality TV showsand dive into the craziness that
ensues. This week, we're lookingat The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City, Episode Six,"Sundance city."
Rosalinda Mendez (00:27):
And now we're getting to the crux of
everything because literally, wekept hearing about Sundance,
from so many different people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (00:34):
Mainly Lisa. But yes, I'm excited to
see Sundance. Honestly, besidesthat it's a film festival, and
like some great movies gothrough there. I didn't know it
was this big, big ordeal.
Rosalinda Mendez (00:45):
Oh, yeah. I mean, Sundance is giant. So it
was started by Robert Redford, Ithink back in the 90s, and it
has been the place for indiefilm. It's the place that most
independent small films getpicked up and distributed. So it
is a thing but it's nowbecome... every time it becomes
it's kind of like a little bitlike it's got the same kind of
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reputation in terms of gettingbigger, kind of like South by
Southwest got bigger, becauseSouth by Southwest used to just
be a bunch of bands come intoplay a lot of indie bands
coming. So that could be seen byA&R people, kind of the same
thing was happening with thefilms that were coming to
Sundance, and it's just kind ofblossomed. So it's getting
bigger and bigger. So you haveall kinds of, you know, big
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gatherings of different kinds offilmmakers, different kinds of
writers, actors, activists,things like that are now having
like, breakout sessions. So it'snot just about the films that
are coming. So yeah...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:44):
Yeah.
Because like when Lisa's calledthe Sundance Queen, like in my
head Sundance is, like you said,an indie kind of Film Festival,
and when I look at Lisa, shedoesn't scream indie.
Rosalinda Mendez (01:56):
Right, no, but you know, she's all about
throwing a party...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (01:59):
True. But we start this episode off with a
sneak peek into Jen Shah. Wefinally get to see her in an
office.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:07):
Right, even though it's a little bit silly.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:09):
Yeah, we see her assistant Stewart who
she lovingly callsStew-Chainz...
Rosalinda Mendez (02:15):
Because he got drunk at a Sundance party and
pretended to be a rapper.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:20):
Yeah, and we see also Jen is rollerskating
around her office, and is tryingto do the hula hoop. She's
having a great time. But I wasactually just surprised to see
her in an office, and clearlyshe does.... she has like some
marketing firm.
Rosalinda Mendez (02:36):
Yeah, but it's again, still not clear. I mean,
the thing is, is like it's onething to have a marketing firm
and have a staff. But I stilldon't understand why she has
eight assistants. I mean, I knowa lot of executives here in
Houston that run oil companies,and they don't have eight
assistants. It seems like amarketing person probably should
(02:57):
maybe have one, maybe two.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (02:59):
But I mean, do they have someone at home?
Rosalinda Mendez (03:01):
Maybe. But I'm not sure that they have this
many people running aroundsaying they're your assistant,
and then you've got a main one,which is Stew-. So...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (03:10):
*interjects* Stew-Chainz...
Rosalinda Mendez (03:10):
Stew-Chainz the rapper. So yeah, so that was
interesting. You're right, andyeah, and then we kind of move
over...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (03:18):
*interjects* To Mary because we can't have
Jen without our polar oppositeMary. It's a little yin and yang
situation. When you have onescene of Jen, you must balance
that with the scene of Mary, andhere Mary just keeps digging her
grave. She just keeps peelingback her layers and I just want
to stop. I don't want to see anymore. Please. Save yourself.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:43):
Right. Just don't say anything.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (03:45):
Yeah, she just needs to be quiet because
every time she opens her mouth,she just says some more
outrageous things because we seethe scene. I believe she's
getting ready for I believeJustin's party that's Whitney's
husband.
Rosalinda Mendez (03:59):
He's having his 50th birthday.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:00):
50th birthday.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:01):
So it's gonna be a blowout.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:02):
Yes, and she's getting ready, and you...
we see her maid, which I believeher name is Charlinda.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:12):
Yeah, I believe so.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (04:13):
And we've seen her in a couple other
episodes. But now we actuallyget to know a little bit more
about her probably all that Maryknows about her. As we'll talk
about in a sec, but she is herMary's grandmother's brother's
child. So this maid is relatedto Mary.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:30):
Right, and she kind of introduces her in that
somehow she came over to give agift to Robert senior...
...Or junior,sorry, and fell in love with
Sara Van Tuerenhou (04:38):
*interjects* Junior
him. Which I'm assuming she justthought he was the cutest thing
in the world, and then neverleft.
Yeah, anddecided to just drop her life
and become a maid. That justsounds a little weird to me and
my idea of family like Iwouldn't make my family work for
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me.
Rosalinda Mendez (04:58):
Yeah, well, I mean, the thing is I guess I
mean, the way it sounded to mewas like, maybe she came over,
they got to, you know, talking,maybe, maybe Charlinda said she
needed some help, and Mary'slike, Oh, I can hire you, which
I mean, I can see family helpingfamily. But the thing that's
(05:18):
just crazy to me is that, youknow, she's dancing around with
her, like having fun doing allthis stuff, and then she very
just casually says, like, or notnot even casually, in some ways,
it's like very hard, and shesays, you know, well, I don't
know anything about her life,you know, except for what she
does for me. I don't know, anybackstory. I don't know anything
(05:40):
about it like that, and then shehas, but at the end of the day,
we're family, and I'm like, Thatmakes no sense. Because if she
is your family, you know abouther, all of her family because
they're YOUR family.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (05:52):
Yeah, the whole thing just felt very
callous, and just gave usfurther insight into the self
absorbed nature of Mary, like wethought Lisa was self absorbed.
At least Lisa kinda showsinterest in other people
occasionally. We haven't reallyseen an instance where Mary
shows interest in someone elseand asking about someone else,
because truly, if you thinkabout it, all of our scenes with
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Mary has been her talking abouther, and how she's better than
other people, and thateveryone's jealous of her. So
she really has this like, youknow, narcissistic personality.
Rosalinda Mendez (06:25):
Yeah. Because part of it is, is that even
though when she was trying tohelp Whitney with her dad, and
she said, Bring him to mychurch, and we will pray for
him. It was kind of clear thatthat was like supposed to be
like, I don't know, part of theshow. Like, here's me. Look how
great I am. I'm bringing myfriends here. I'm doing the
(06:48):
circle of love around him. Butdidn't we even mention she
didn't even remember his name?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (06:53):
Yeah, she didn't even bother to learn his
name, and like, I don't evenknow this man, and I know his
name is Steve. Hopefully,otherwise, that's very
embarrassing for me. But yeah,it's just if you're going to
pray for someone and asking, youknow, I don't know for God's
help or something. Like whywould you even bother to
(07:13):
learn... Like, "hey, Whitney,what's your dad's name?"
Rosalinda Mendez (07:15):
Yeah, I was to me, it that just was like a
little bit of a, aha, that's whyWhy is she? This just seems to
be self aggrandizing for her,and this is a good prop, and you
know, it's probably a good thingto film, because it made her
seem like a very caringindividual. But as we're finding
(07:36):
out episode to episode is thatshe doesn't give any F's about
anybody except herself.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (07:41):
Yeah, absolutely not. I just, I don't
know. It really leaves a sickfeeling in my stomach, how she's
treating Charlinda, becausethat's family, and she's now
worked there for what, 17, 18years? And this, like, why
wouldn't you just help a familymember out and give them money?
Or like I get maybe hiring themto like work around the church,
(08:03):
but like, be at your beck andcall make your beds like that?
Rosalinda Mendez (08:08):
I know, she's really treating her like she's
an indentured servant.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (08:11):
Yeah, the whole thing just kind of feels
messed up to me, and justfurther shows how she sees
anyone, really below hersocioeconomic status. Anyone
that's not her is below her inevery way and don't deserve her
respect or want like, herattention.
Rosalinda Mendez (08:30):
Yeah. So. So, I mean, so yeah, so the thing
is, is it's just very, it'sdisconcerting seeing all the
things she's done, and, youknow, lately things have come
out. In terms of her behavior.
There's, there was a supposedlya leaked tape of her talking
about some poor people in thecongregation who got together to
(08:53):
give her a gift, and she wasbasically like, it wasn't she
was, you know, it wasn't worthyof her, and she didn't think it
was good enough, and...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (09:03):
*interjects* Because it was cheap or
Rosalinda Mendez (09:04):
Yeah. So my thing is, is that literally, she
something.
can't even appreciate a giftfrom someone who's not of her
socioeconomic background, and tome, the more and more that comes
out, and like the fact thatshe's trying to sue people and
trying to get things taken offof websites and all these
things. So she's really tryingto curate who she wants people
(09:26):
to see her as, but it's reallyclear that that's just not her.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (09:30):
Yeah, she just clearly is not a nice
person and only cares aboutherself, which only further
makes me believe that she didkind of contrive this whole
relationship with Robert Sr.,which I talked about in a
previous episode. So if you wantto know my thoughts on that,
check out Episode Three, Ibelieve. But yeah, I don't know.
(09:50):
I I can't imagine it getting anyworse. But as we know, with all
Housewives, it can always getworse.
Rosalinda Mendez (09:58):
Yeah, there should be kind of... something
in stone that says that it canalways get worse.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:04):
It really can. But then we move on to kind
of more fun topic, Justin's kindof club party that Whitney
throwing for his 50th birthday.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:15):
Yeah, it's really funny. You can kind of
see, you know that Justin gotthe girl he wanted. He wanted a
girl who could throw down andhave fun.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:23):
Oh, yeah. I mean, like, the first thing we
see at this party, I believe isat Whitney's house, and you see
him taking body shots off ofWhitney. So I mean, you know,
it's gonna be a good night.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:33):
Yeah, their pregame was pretty amazing...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (10:35):
And then you have a party bus with I
believe, a stripper pole, andthen they drive up to this big
mega mansion, which apparentlyis owned by the real Queen of
Sundance, but I you know, we'llgive it to Lisa. But you know,
wink wink, nudge nudge.
Rosalinda Mendez (10:53):
Yeah, no, and so but you know, and basically
this friend of hers always lendsthe house out. So they always
kind of start at Whitney's, takethe party bus, and then end up
at the mansion, having a goodtime. But, yeah, it looked like
yeah, an episode of Girls GoneWild. But I mean, but again, you
see him and he is so in lovewith her, and he is like having
(11:15):
so much fun, and it's just verylight. I mean, you can see why
they're together.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:21):
No, 100%, and I obviously, you know, we
don't know, the background 100%,you know, on a personal level of
how they got together. But, youknow, seeing them as they are
now I can't imagine why youwould hate this couple.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:34):
Right, and all the ladies are showing up to
this party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (11:38):
Yeah. and actually, surprisingly, barring
one incident, we'll talk aboutjust after this. But everyone
actually seemed to be prettycivil, and were nice, and it
didn't end in a huge blowout,which was surprising that they
even aired the party in general,maybe it was just because of the
body shots, because everyone wasactually being really nice, and
it was actually very pleasant towatch.
Rosalinda Mendez (11:58):
Yeah, except you had the best part of this
whole thing with, you know, Jen,again, you want to be team Jen
all the way, and then Jen willdo something kind of silly,
where she's talking about.
Basically, she's rewritinghistory. I mean, she's telling
the truth. I mean, is shetelling the truth? Yes, but come
on. You know, she's like, Inever called, you know, you
(12:20):
know, Mary an MFer, and thenit's like, Yes, you did. It's on
tape, and then her wholetechnical things like, Well, I
didn't say it to her face.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (12:31):
Well, yeah, we well we learned that part
from Watch What Happens L!vewhen Andy kind of questioned her
about it. But yeah, in themoment, we see Mary go up to
Jen, and ask, Hey, what was thatwhole thing about? and then
clearly, neither of them want tomend fences...
Rosalinda Mendez (12:51):
Right. But I think the thing is that even in
that episode, Jen is still kindof like, I didn't say it to you.
I mean, she even then says, Inever said that to you, and it's
like, Yeah, but the wholerestaurant could hear it, and on
Watch What Happens L!ve. She waslike, oh, there was lots of
music and whatever, and I waslike, Yeah....
Sara Van Tuerenhou (13:11):
*interjects* But everyone turned their heads
when that happened.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:12):
Like you were not that far away, and it well,
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:15):
It was rude, but it was true. But I'm
you just made a scene. So peopleheard it, and if they didn't
hear it, they heard it by peopletalking about it, who did hear
glad they didn't let the fightblow up Justin's party.
it. So it was a thing, and thefact that she now is just trying
to say, well, because I neversaid it to your face. Well, it
doesn't matter if you didn't sayit to her face. You said it, and
it was just rude and out ofplace. So...
Rosalinda Mendez (13:44):
And again, we can just be curious as to who
Heather which grandpa Heatherdid.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (13:49):
I know. I'm so intrigued. Please, Heather.
Drop a photo. I want to see thisman.
Rosalinda Mendez (13:54):
Exactly. So yeah, so that was that was short
but interesting. You know, thething is, I guess, again, I
mean, I gotta say, if I'm one ofthese Housewives, I'm liking the
editing if I'm Whitney. Becauselike literally, they have not
done anything to Whitney. Imean, they sometimes make or
seem a little bit silly, and alittle bit, you know, like party
(14:17):
girl-ish. But you know what,she's just light hearted and
fun.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (14:21):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I wouldn't even
take that as a negative editingshot of her. I, I do remember
seeing some preview episodesfrom I think before the season
dropped. It was like the, youknow, little teaser and we do
see Heather and Whitney getting,not between each other, but like
getting into some heated wordswith other people. So I am
(14:45):
actually kinda excited to seethem get into the drama because
let's be honest, we all watchthe show for the drama. We don't
care if these people areactually friends. We want to see
it go down. But speaking of itgoing down, kind of we go to
Jen's Sundance party.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:02):
Yeah, and this is my favorite part because
Bravo, we love a crossover. Sowe get some Vanderpump rules
people that are coming in. SoLala and Katie come in, because
they're both from Utah, and sothey get invited to Jen's party
because Jen's cousin has done afilm about a rap group in Salt
(15:26):
Lake City, and he's adocumentarian, and so she's
having the VIP party.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (15:31):
Yeah, she's having the VIP viewing party,
and it's actually an all aroundpleasant, pleasant event. Again,
I guess the the ladies reallypull it together for Sundance
week, and are kind of civil,because pretty much the whole
arc, I guess, if you want tocall it for this party is kind
of focusing on Heather's datingor really sex life, which
(15:54):
actually is really interestingto see Heather out into the
wild.
Rosalinda Mendez (15:57):
Yeah, the funny thing is, is that you she
goes on, like might go, this isthis is a party for my cousin,
and you know, he's doing allthese great things and whatever,
and then later, they're like,Oh, no, this is just a party to
get Heather laid.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (16:09):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and like Heather outrightsays, "Oh, yeah, I'm just
looking for sex. I don't reallycare about love," and there's
some background on that, that Iwould like to touch on, which we
before the party, there is ascene with Heather and Whitney,
they went to go to a bar, andthey were talking about kind of
Heather's dating life in Utah,which kind of is stinted because
(16:30):
she's a divorced woman andsomeone her age and her, I guess
you could call it status ormarriage status of being
divorced, doesn't lend itself toa lot of options in the dating
pool, unfortunately, in SaltLake City. So I'm kind of glad
that you know, she's feelingherself and she's out there,
(16:50):
and, yeah, she's not looking fora relationship, but at least you
know, she can still have a goodtime.
Rosalinda Mendez (16:56):
Yeah, and you kind of see Heather's again, we
talked about this before, whereshe really has this, somehow she
feels like it's a stigma thatshe's divorced. She also, you
get a little bit of anunderstanding, too, when she's
talking to her children, becausethey're talking about going to
church, and, you know, they'relike, we don't want to go to
(17:17):
church, because basically,people look at us as sinners,
and you know, it's not asexciting, and yet Heather even
says, you know, everybody was,we were all kind of in the
circle until we got divorced,and even though, you know, we're
still have the money, and westill are doing okay, whereas,
you know, the kids don't getinvited to the same parties, and
(17:38):
she kind of feels like that'skind of extended to her and her
dating life. So she's justpretty much cemented the fact
that she can't date in Salt LakeCity.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (17:46):
Yeah, and I think also she has this kind of
skewed outlook on love, becauseshe's, she says she's never
really been in love, and exceptfor one time when she was 15,
and it was unrequited. So she'snever, you know, been in love
where both parties are in lovewith each other.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:05):
Right, and this is where she says she feels
like she has common ground withMary. Right, where she says,
like, we married for faith,right? So she wanted to marry
into Mormon royalty. So she did,and, you know, so that was she
picked her faith over her actualfeelings.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:23):
Yeah. But it doesn't stop her from getting
down.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:26):
No, it doesn't. So the good thing is,
is, since Lala and Katie are intown, they try to give her a
little pep talk while she'sthere, like trying to make sure
that she understands that, hey,you may not be looking for love.
Like Mr. Right, you're lookingfor Mr. Right now. So they sent
her over to deal with a techieguy that was working on the
film, well and her game ispretty bad.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (18:48):
Oh, yeah. I mean, she came on so strong, and
she was just talking about, oh,how big your *his* equipment is,
and it was just I don't know.
Rosalinda Mendez (18:58):
Yeah, like first she kind of says, Hey, I
like that projector, and he'slike, it's a printer. Or maybe
it was the other way around.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:05):
No. Yeah.
She thought it was a printer,and he was like, it's a
projector, and she wouldn't shutup about how big it was, and
how, Oh, I didn't see it. Ididn't see you behind it because
your equipment was so big,and...
Rosalinda Mendez (19:18):
Yeah, her game is bad. Like, Heather. I know. I
think she needs to go hang outwith Katie and Lala a little bit
to get her game back on.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:25):
Because like my thing there though. It's
I mean, I'm obviously like, I'msure the dating pool is kind of
small due to how kind ofjudgmental it is there. But part
of me is wondering if it's justbecause she has no game. She
can't find anyone.
Rosalinda Mendez (19:41):
I know. Like, I just she was lucky. There was
an out of town guy who obviouslywas horny and like it was
like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (19:47):
I know. I mean, clearly it shows you that.
It is not hard to get laid ifyou're straight.
Rosalinda Mendez (19:52):
I guess so.
Yeah, it was it was to me it wasreally interesting that they
that they kind of went there andI just love the fact that she
goes, "I had to snap him upbefore some other Cougar comes
and takes him. I'm like
Sara Van Tuerenhou (20:05):
*interjects* She's like, "we got to go right
literally....
now. It's like she was enactingsome fire drill. Like, we gotta
go. We gotta go right now. Let'sgo. Let's go. Like out the door
out the door. It's just like,you know what? Good for her. I'm
happy she got laid, and ishaving a good time.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:22):
Yeah, no, yeah, way to go. Heather!
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:24):
And Jen's goal of getting Heather laid,
which was apparently the wholepurpose of the party was
successful. So the party was asuccess.
Rosalinda Mendez (20:31):
Yeah, sounds like the film was good. Heather
got laid. There were no majorfights at the party. It was all
good.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:38):
Yeah. Which speaking again, of the
crossover, we have with Lala andKatie, there's a little bit of
gossip controversy that I alwayslike to sprinkle in here now,
and there is this thing whereKatie kind of shaded Lisa saying
she'd never heard of her before,because she's from...
Rosalinda Mendez (20:57):
*interjects* Park City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (20:59):
Yeah. So she would know the Sundance
players, and she was like, I'venever heard of Lisa Barlow
before.
Rosalinda Mendez (21:05):
I know, and Katie would also pride herself
on like, you know, knowing allthe movers and shakers since you
know, clearly you know, herhusband Tom is part of TomTom
and, and they actually talkabout going to Salt Lake City a
lot. Like, it seems like oftenon Vanderpump rules, the girls
will do girls trips and go toSalt Lake City, and before I
(21:25):
think the last couple ofseasons, they've talked about
the fact now that they've got alittle bit money in their pocket
that they're buying houses inSalt Lake City. So and you know,
Lala was there because she wasdoing her own film debut,
because her husband Rand is amovie director and producer. So
(21:46):
she was there for her film. Soit was, it was it was a good
crossover, and but you know,again, and you know, the
Vanderpump rules, kids, youknow, they are going to be out
for shade all the time, and Iwould not go try to go into a
shade contest with any of thosekids, because they're going to
beat you every time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:06):
So I mean, do you believe her? Do you think
that Lisa Barlow is not reallythe queen of Sundance?
Rosalinda Mendez (22:12):
I believe that she's the second person who said
that because like basically,Whitney straight up said that
when she was talking about herfriend.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:19):
Oh, the other woman.
Rosalinda Mendez (22:20):
Yeah, and so like, don't tell Lisa. But like,
literally, I think that's justher moniker because that's kind
of her thing, and so she waslike, Well, she's probably the
queen of Sundance, to the othercast members of The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (22:37):
But like the Sundance people, probably.
She's probably mid-tier youthink?
Rosalinda Mendez (22:40):
She's like an event planner. I mean, she does
a lot of stuff. I wouldn't sayshe was the queen of Sundance, I
think because she does a lot ofevents for a lot of different
companies. She can get peopleextra tickets, she can get
people in and it looks like shedoes really well at her job. I'm
not trying to shade her businessat all, I think...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (22:58):
*interjects* Oh no, I mean, the shots we saw
of the events were really cool.
Like they had that, likepeelable sticker lotto type
thing that was similar to theMcDonald's monopoly.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:09):
Yeah, and she's got some free labor in the
husband.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:12):
Yeah. Where I love how she prepped him for
that interview asking about "Oh,like, how do you like working
for your wife?" And he was like,"Oh, well, she's a great boss. I
love working for her," and theywere like, "did your wife prep
you for that?" And you can hearher laugh in the background. So
she's there watching him givethis interview and he was like,
I can't say.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:33):
He's like I can neither confirm or deny.
Like, it was great.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:36):
He knows his place.
Rosalinda Mendez (23:37):
Exactly. But yeah, so no, I think No, I think
she probably does a good job.
I'm just saying that she I don'tthink she's necessarily the
queen of Sundance, but and Iwould it wouldn't be beyond
Katie at just trying to throwsome shade just to throw some
shade because that's who she is.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (23:54):
True. I'll take your word for it. I don't
want to Vanderpump rules.
Rosalinda Mendez (24:47):
Exactly.
That's like, Project Runway fax pas. Number one.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (24:53):
But I was also surprised to hear about
this Park City Fashion Week.
That is so random. Aren't thereenough fashion weeks?
Rosalinda Mendez (24:59):
Well, I don't if there's no fashion weeks, but
I'm just kind of trying to say,it's, it's kind of like, again,
like South by Southwest whereevery I think season they have
it or every year they have itthat they add different things.
So this is the first thing. Nowthe interesting thing is, is
that I will have to say, I don'tknow, we haven't seen the tier
(25:20):
of all the fashion shows orwhat's going on, and I don't
know if it's just winter wearand like athleisure that they're
doing, which, you know, I'm notsure there's a ton of people
doing that in any other FashionWeek. So it kind of makes sense
that you could have like a nichekind of fashion week where
you're doing like, ski suits andyou know, after ski stuff and
(25:41):
things like that are morecasual, which seems kind of like
what it was.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:45):
No, yeah, I mean, it definitely did look
more like athleisure but youknow, like designer athleisure
like designer, sweatshirts,designer, sweat pants type deal.
Rosalinda Mendez (25:55):
It is a joy.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (25:55):
But from that party, we're really just
going from party to party. Weget into the topic of Brooks
fashion line, which we firstkind of get a glimpse of when he
went to his mother store,Meredith, and you can see some
of his stuff is there, and I'mnot not gonna lie. It looks kind
of like Adidas knockoffs and itjust happens to have his name on
it.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:02):
Which we know from Project Runway is something
you don't do.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:03):
You don't brand something with your name
when nobody knows who you are.
It's like why do I care aboutwhat's his name? Brooks? Meadow?
I don't even know his last name.
Rosalinda Mendez (26:06):
Yeah, I don't know his last name either.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:06):
So I mean, see it clearly. I mean, love you
Brooks. But honey, why would Ibuy your brand if it has your
name on it?
Yeah, and in this, we do seeBrooks getting ready for it, and
you you start to see the tollthat, you know, their separation
is taking on the family.
stress, which is apparently notone of the reasons why he came,
he took off a semester.
According to Meredith on WatchWhat Happens L!ve, all of her
kids take off the secondsemester of their junior year to
do an internship, which thathe's a second semester Junior.
So he...
Rosalinda Mendez (26:27):
*interjects* Is getting his fashion line
together.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (26:30):
Exactly. So pretty much. You see him getting
ready for his fashion line, andyou can tell he's still totally
kid, and I get it too, because Ibelieve we're the same age, I
believe we're both 21, and hewas still asking his mom like,
"oh, could you call the ladytelling her that I'm going to be
late?" Can you get me this? Canyou get me that? Which I totally
(26:53):
get. I still don't like havingto call the doctor for
appointments and things. So Ican't fault him too much on that
one.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:00):
But as a good mother, she tells him he has to
do it himself.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:04):
Yeah.
Because I mean, this is kind ofhis big first business venture
into his fashion line. So hekind of has to be a big boy and
call the lady and tell them,they're gonna be late, and of
course, Murphy's Law kicks inwith full effect, because I
don't even know how thishappened. The toilet just...
just....
Rosalinda Mendez (27:22):
*interjects* Randomly started overflowing,
and then it set off an alarm.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:25):
Yeah, the like smoke alarm went off, and
the toilet was floodingeverywhere, and they were
already late, and now they werejust getting even more late.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:35):
Right, and then they're like, who do you
call? Or what do you do?
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:38):
And he has no clue what to do, and his
mom's obviously taking care ofit.
Rosalinda Mendez (27:42):
But his mom doesn't know what to do either.
So I think she finally calls thelandlord because I think they're
renting, I don't think they ownthat, where they're staying. So
she was trying to get the eitherproperty manager or somebody
she's like, Oh, God, I don'tknow. It's just overflowing and
everything is going on, and wegot to go.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (27:57):
Yeah, so you know, we'll leave the door
open, and this better be cleanedup by the time we get back.
Rosalinda Mendez (28:02):
Yeah. So the next thing we see after you
know, there's a major kind ofmeltdown at...at the house. You
see Brooks and Meredith andthey're talking about, you know,
the fact that his dad isn'tcoming and you know.
Yeah, but we also see that he'stwo hours late.
Yeah, we do. We see that he'sreally late.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:23):
And...
Rosalinda Mendez (28:24):
*interjects* And my favorite thing is like,
when he's there, and he's behindstage, and he's seeing
everything, and he's a littleawestruck. He's like, "gee, I
don't even know how I got tothis point," and I'm like, and
then he kind of corrects himselfand goes, Yeah, I know. Cuz my
mom.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (28:37):
Yeah, I mean, I kind of did like that
little self aware moment. Youknow, he recognizes he
definitely would not have gottenthis opportunity without his
mom. But I think it was stillkind of cute, and you know what,
at the end of the day, yeah, hismom gave it to him, but he still
had to put in the work ofcreating the line, and which my
mom rolls her eyes at, and wedisagree a little bit, and we
(28:58):
can talk about that in a sec.
But yeah, so he goes on therunway, and you can see the
separation take a toll becausehe's really upset that his dad
was not going to be able to makeit to his show.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:11):
But his dad did send him a video text, which
was nice. A little video. I- myfavorite thing that his dad said
was, you know, get out of yourown way.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (29:22):
Yeah, no, that was cute.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:23):
Which was probably the truest thing he
said on that.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (29:26):
Yeah. Well, my thing though, it's like, I
get like, they did a littleflash backwards, and they showed
that, that it was a week earlierthat Meredith had said she
needed space, but I think forsomething as big as your first
fashion show. What whether hedid it on his own or not. He
still had to put in some work hewalked too. I think that's
(29:49):
something your parents should goto.
Rosalinda Mendez (29:51):
Yeah, I don't disagree. I think that um, and
Meredith even says that, like,you know, in retrospect, we
should have like taken his[Brooks] feelings. consideration
before she kind of banished him[Seth] to be away, and it but at
some point he should have just Imean, it's not like he didn't
know that this was going tohappen a week before. So he
probably should have said, Canwe just do this? Can we start
(30:15):
this like longer term separationafter Brooks's fashion show?
Like, I think they should havebeen more self aware about what
was going on with how the familydynamic was going to take it,
because he was sad because hissister wasn't there. He was sad
that he didn't have friendsthere. But it was a really big
deal, and it is a really bigdeal. I mean, it's funny to me,
(30:37):
you know, actually, Fashion Weekis everywhere, is like part of
almost every Housewife franchiseat some point, you know,
basically, you know, the NewYork women are always at Fashion
Week, and then the New Jerseypeople...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (30:49):
*interjects* Or even walking at it....
Rosalinda Mendez (30:50):
Yeah, and the New Jersey, the New Jersey
people...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (30:52):
*interjects* Ramona eyes.
Rosalinda Mendez (30:53):
Exactly. Well that was at Brooklyn Fashion
Week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (30:56):
You're right.
Rosalinda Mendez (30:57):
But they had, but yeah, so like, you know,
some of the Jersey Housewiveskids walked in fashion week. You
know, obviously Yolanda'sbecause...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:08):
Gigi, and Bella.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:09):
They're, they're, you know, we're at
Fashion Week, and, you know,Rinna's kids have a fashion line
and on OC Bronwyn's child has afashion line, and so it's it
seems to be the thing that ifyou are the offspring of a Real
Housewife, somehow, you're goingto end up in a fashion week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:30):
I wouldn't wish for that. That seems like a
lot of work.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:32):
It is a lot of work.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:33):
So please don't sign up for The Real
Housewives of Houston if theyever try again.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:37):
I promise won't happen.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:40):
But yeah, thankfully, again, we are
released from the shackles ofthe To be continued.
Rosalinda Mendez (31:46):
But we actually will continue the
Fashion Week.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (31:48):
Yeah, we didn't ever get to see the whole
show. So that's a little bit ofa cliffhanger if you want to
call it that. But there's no bigdrama. It actually was a pretty
drama free episode. So not thatmuch happened, which was kind of
nice. Although, you know, I'ma... I'm a reality TV show
watcher. Give me the drama. Iwant to see it.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:11):
I know. But it was kind of nice to learn a
little bit about each of thehousewives a little bit more.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:16):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:17):
And again, I think we had just the right
amount of....Well actually, wecould have done with no Mary
this time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (32:23):
Yeah, I really, I'm so over Mary. If she
doesn't come back for anotherseason. I mean, we haven't even
finished this season and I'malready over her. But if she
didn't come back for anotherseason, which I think she's
definitely leaning towardsconsidering all of the blocking
and things that we've beentalking about that she's doing.
Like, I'll be much more happy.
Although, question for you. Doyou think that this is a
(32:43):
franchise made to last? I'mgetting the feeling no?
Rosalinda Mendez (32:48):
Well, no, I don't know. It's it's hard to
tell. I think it's too early. Ithink...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (32:52):
*interjects* It's too early to call.
Rosalinda Mendez (32:54):
...Because like Miami had a few seasons. I
want to say even maybe DC hadtwo, or maybe it was only one,
but DC was really off the rails.
Like, it went from just beingoutrageous to being boring. You
know, they broke the law, whichwas like, a big deal when they
like snuck into the White House.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:18):
Oh.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:18):
So that was I mean, there were lots of things
that happened that were like,and the people weren't as
interesting, at least in thiscase, the the girls are
interesting.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (33:29):
No, I like the show so far. I just I
though, I guess like allHousewives are kind of taking a
turn considering, I guess howold you want to say the medium
is. It's kind of getting alittle repetitive.
Rosalinda Mendez (33:42):
Well, I think that they're thinking that some
franchises.... I've kind ofheard this kind of going around
like everyone's like, eitherOrange County needs a total
reboot...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (33:52):
*interjects* Or just cut it off?
Rosalinda Mendez (33:53):
Or just cut it off that it's over. Like it's it
was the original, but it's timefor it to go because like
there's nobody that's veryinteresting on it anymore. The
Sara Van Tuerenhou (34:00):
*interjects* And I think the same is being
storylines are, you know, thepeople that are left can't
really carry the franchise likeit used to be carried, and so..
said about Atlanta, too.
Rosalinda Mendez (34:12):
Yeah, but the thing is, I think Atlanta still
has a lot of fire in it. So youstill have a lot of fiery
personalities, I would say, andobviously Potomac is poppin all
the time.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (34:24):
Yeah, I think it's the number one right
now.
Rosalinda Mendez (34:25):
So and then New York, you're gonna I mean,
we were gonna watch Ebony comeon. So that'll be interesting
coming on, and you know, we gotLeah last season. So even though
we sadly don't have Bethenny, westill have Ramona and Sonja...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (34:39):
*interjects* Yes, Ramonja!
Rosalinda Mendez (34:41):
...Who technically they can carry the
franchise, but I think they werehoping that you know, Salt Lake
City would be something wherethey could offload maybe one of
the one of the other ones whichI think is going to be Orange
County. Although, you know,again, it'll be interesting to
see what happens with BeverlyHills because I'm not sure that
that franchise... I mean, I loveKyle. I mean, I love Erika
(35:03):
Jayne, but like and yeah, Dorit.
I mean, the thing is, is I justI don't know what's going to
happen with Erika Jayne, like...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (35:11):
*interjects* Falling out of grace.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:13):
Yeah, and because I'm not seeing the fact
that she would want that everportrayed on TV.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (35:18):
No, I mean, because she wants to be perfect,
and I love Erika Jayne, and Ihavent actually gotten to her
season completely because I'mwatching from the beginning.
Rosalinda Mendez (35:26):
Oh, I love her too. She's my favorite one on
there. But I don't see her beingthe kind of person who is going
to want to have this splatteredall over...
Sara Van Tuerenhou (35:35):
*interjects* conversation?
Rosalinda Mendez (35:36):
Yeah, especially because the innuendo
is that they're not reallygetting divorced. They're
getting divorced, so that, youknow, he's not as liable or that
you know, she gets to like, notbe kind of drug through the mud,
which is, I guess, at leastchivalrous of Tom. But I think
part of it is also so Tom is notin so much trouble. So who
(35:57):
knows? But literally, I thinkthey're looking for new options.
So we'll see, and, I mean,obviously, I'm actually okay, if
Dallas never came back. Like ifI think if you watched Dallas,
you would have the same feelingyou're feeling right now about
you know, is this going to besomething that will last? I kept
saying after the first season ofDallas, it's not coming back and
it keeps coming back.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:19):
It's like the thing that never dies...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:21):
The herpes of housewives.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:25):
This is why I'm saying why can't they do a
Real Housewives of Houston. I'mmad. There are a bunch of big
personalities here. I think it'sBS that Andy couldn't find a
cast of women that were crazy.
Just go to Memorial. Just go toRiver Oaks. Andy please.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:38):
Oh, you go to like Sugar Land.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:41):
Oh, my--, that would be perfect.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:42):
Do you have some 281ers in there? And yeah,
it would be it would be off thechain.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:47):
It would be gold.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:48):
It would be gold.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:49):
I think Bravo...
Rosalinda Mendez (36:50):
We have crazy socialites here.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (36:52):
I know, and we don't even see them on TV.
They're not even being filmed.
Could you imagine if they'rebeing filmed? Oh, my God.
Rosalinda Mendez (36:57):
I know it would be I mean, we had murders
and all kinds of great things.
We like...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:02):
Great things - murders.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:04):
Well, you know, it's like the crazy
ostentatious thing thathappened. So you know...
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:08):
F*** Dallas.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Dallas is just what it is... Abunch of plastic people.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:13):
Says the Dallasite.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:14):
Exactly.
That's why I'm in Houston.
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:19):
Yeah.
Rosalinda Mendez (37:19):
Anyway, so that wraps us up for this....
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:22):
Yeah, that's our episode. Thanks for
listening to our rambling sofar. If you wouldn't mind
dropping a like, a comment,subscribing, that would be
greatly appreciated, and we willsee you on the next one!
Rosalinda Mendez (37:34):
Yeah, take
Sara Van Tuerenhout (37:44):
Bye!
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