EP. 1: Chrissy Metz

Chrissy Metz joins us on the first episode of the MI HWY Podcast to talk about her life leading up to being an actress and now music artist. Chrissy shares stories about how she's dealt with struggles in her life, as well as her team and those who inspire her. This podcast is sponsored by Regions Bank.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (00:15):
what up?
This is a bun.
I'm the host of my highwaypodcast sponsored by regions
bank.
I'm super excited to haveChrissy Metz in the studio today
on the podcast talking about herlife.
Chrissy has become a good friendof mine over the past two years.
We've got to work together onmusic that she is going to be
putting out later this year.
It was just announced that sheis signing a record deal with

(00:36):
universal Nashville and we'll beputting out a country album.
Chrissy is one of the stars onNBCs biggest network television
show called this is us and shealso started in 20th century.
Fox is the movie breakthrough.
Chrissy had the opportunity tosing a song written by Diane
Warren on the soundtrack forbreakthrough.
This song is called I amstanding with you and it's been

(00:58):
recently nominated for an Oscar.
Today.
We are going to touch on howChrissy and I met her acting
career and her love for music.
What up Chrissy Metz.
Thanks for joining us today onthe first ever my highway
podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Um, thanks for having me.
I feel like my highways cherryhas been popped.
Is that inappropriate?
Is my mama listening?
No, mine is.
Please don't want her to worst.
The worst and the worst.
But I don't want her to hearthat.
No.
All too late.
It's already okay.
I'm sorry.

(01:32):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Well anyway, thanks for havingme in my terrible behavior.
So tell us where we're at today.
Chrissy.
I know we rearrange somefurniture to make this happen.
Well, we are in Nashville,Tennessee.
Um, but I have chosen theAirbnb.
Well, uh, sometimes when peopledon't listen to the law they get
in trouble and they get arrestedand they go to a place to call

(01:54):
the jail.
I am staying across the streetfrom a jail.
Well at least you know it'ssafe.
Yeah.
I saw the police officers and Isaid to the Uber driver, Oh
great, there's a police station.
He said, no ma'am, it's a jail.
So that's okay.
Also known as the drunk tank,right.
Also known as the drunk tank,which I think when people get a
little waste in a little lit,

Speaker 2 (02:16):
but we want to, what we want to say is it is close to
downtown.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's close to downtown.
It's very convenient.
There's a lot of perks.
It's safe.
I put the umbrellas by the doorin case somebody comes in, I can
hear them fall on the ground andI'm like, ready, well, you want
to come for me?
And I didn't send for you.
You know?
So anyway, that's where we'reat.
So,

Speaker 2 (02:33):
well, I know everyone wants to know, and we've been
talking about it all week.
I'm unfortunate enough to letall the listeners know I get to
work with Chrissy, not only onthis podcast, but in the music
front.
And there's a lot of thingscoming for Chrissy Metz and the
country music front and musicand in general.
So let's talk about what's inthe news and what everyone's
talking about right now.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah.
What's in the news?
I mean, gosh, I feel like I'vepeaked this week.
Like there's a lot of reallyexciting things have happened.
Um, my universal, uh, deal, um,has been, you know, sent out to
the masses so everyone knowsthat I signed with universal
Nashville.
Um, and Diane Warren, who is ofcourse the legendary songwriter

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wrote, um, a song called, I'mstanding with you for a movie
breakthrough that I was in andit was an Oscar nominated.
So now, um, you know, fingerscrossed, um, typically most of
the nominees get to sing at theOscars.
So I'm, I think I'm going to besinging at the Oscars.
I'm not sure know whatperformance, no, let's just, no,

(03:35):
no.
Okay.
No, I definitely not gonna.
I mean, I'm sure I'll benervous.
I call it the puker poopfeeling.
Um, I'm sure I'll have that as,as anything that you do that's
important to you, kind of freakout a little, but then, you
know, you just learn to breathethrough it, kind of ground
yourself.
And as we say, let go and letGod cause, um,

Speaker 2 (03:55):
and you always say your best in an uncomfortable
situation, so you're going tokill it.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, let's hope.
Let's hope, I'm going to hopeso.
Yeah.
So, um,

Speaker 2 (04:06):
so did you ever think when you were recording the
song, I know we were, we werefriends and working together
then, um, did you think that itwould be here?
Did you think the music videoand the movie would get the
impact that it did?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, um, I wasn't sure because it's a faith
based movie breakthrough.
If you guys haven't seen it,please see it.
It's not just because I was init, but because there's
incredible actors who are in itand it's an amazing, true story
based, um, on, uh, uh, my gosh,this woman, Joyce Smith, whose
son falls through an icy Lakeand is pronounced dead for over

(04:38):
an hour and she literally praisehim back to life.
Um, and of course, I mean it'snot all her doing right and
there's God and her higherpower, whatever you might
believe in.
So, um, yeah, when Diane saidthat she, you know, saw the
movie and she was so inspired bya particular scene, I was like,
Oh, like this is amazing, but Ididn't think I was going to sing
this song.
And Davon Franklin, who was ourproducer of the movie, um, who

(05:00):
was incredible, was like, no,Diane, like Chrissy needs to
record the song.
And I was like, Oh, I dunno.
She another actor who thinksthat she can sing, no one's
like, actually she can.
So just let her try.
So I went in the studio andliterally Diane was like, I'm
leaving cause I can't lie toyour face if it's not good.
I'm like, Oh, skirts.
Listen, Diane Warren does notmince words.

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Like she'll tell you about yourbehind and she don't care.
And I kinda love that cause Ifelt like I, you know, after she
came back in and she was like,okay, all right, lay the track.
And I was like, should I leave?
Like can I, I don't know.
Maybe I should.
This is weird.
Um, panic attack.
I was like, well, as the pukerpoop, right.

(05:42):
Anyway, that's not appropriate.
Sorry, mom ends up Swan.
Um, so yeah, she was like, wow.
Um, Oh.
Like you could like, you canactually sing.
And I was like, what?
Well, thank you.
And I think she actually wasgenuinely, and I felt like I
wasn't audition.
Like literally I was auditioningfor the song.

(06:02):
Um, and luckily, you know, shewas very surprised, pleasantly
surprised.
And, um, so yeah, I didn't thinkthat.
I mean it's Diane Warren andshe's a legend if you guys don't
know.
I mean, there's incredible songsall over the wire, you know.
Oh, all over the world.
But some of her hits of course,are

Speaker 2 (06:19):
we saw one on Monday night,

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Celine Dion playing rich.
Yeah.
So, um, I mean, she's written onbreaking my heart.
I don't wanna miss a thing orI'm a, you know, from
Armageddon, which was also anOscar nominated.
Um, she's written, um, I think,how do I live without you?
How do I live with it?
You know, I'm sure I've realizedthat one.
Um, and like one of my favoritesongs from the mannequin movie,

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maybe you're too young to know,but, and we gambit this day
together.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I know the song, I haven't seen the movie, but
we're not going to talk aboutthat

Speaker 3 (06:50):
anyway.
It's like one of my favoritesongs, but she's written like
every dang song and she's beennominated for an Oscar 10 times.
So I was like, if I break herstreak and it's not my doing
right, it's her song, I'll belike, I was having anxiety about
that.
So luckily, thank you.
G she, yeah, the song and um,uh, I'm sitting with, he was

(07:11):
nominated so I that I'd neverever expect[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (07:14):
wait, so we're going to go back a minute.
You said you laid the track inthe studio and she came in and
listened to it.
Was that the only time that yousang on the track or did you
have to go back and sing againor did they use that

Speaker 3 (07:24):
like 98% of that?
There was a couple of thingsthat we punched in here and
there.
Well, y'all

Speaker 2 (07:31):
don't say, don't, don't doubt yourself.
I mean, if you're seeing thispatch track the first time
through and it works like that,that's big time.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, that's very nice.
Um, I thought I was just havinga meeting.
I didn't think I was actuallyeven going to sing that day.
And she's like, Oh, why don'tyou just like lay some down
while you're here.
I'm like, and this is like, it'sa beautiful space that she has,
um, in Hollywood.
And I think, um, I don't know.
I could be mistaken, but, um,there are bullet holes in the

(08:01):
elevator that are likeBulletproof cause I think it was
either Tupac recorded there.
Like, I mean it's really crazyhistory in that studio.
Anyhow, all that to say yes.
Cause I want to learn all ofthat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty fascinating.
So, but she has two studios, butwe were at the real songs place.
Um, so anyway,

Speaker 2 (08:19):
so now flipping forward to your own music and
not that this isn't your song,but I know you're here in town
and, and that's what you've beendoing for the past year and a
half.
And I've had the pleasure ofhelping you book co-writes and
words.
We know our stories.
Let's just dive

Speaker 3 (08:38):
here.
At my agency it was having acharity event and I was with my
lit agent.
Shout out Kate Hoyt.
Um, and we were the, all theonly all women's team of this
beer pong charity event that theagency puts on.
And so, um, we went to a reddorm and here comes his like
real tall guy, look in all kindsof intimidating.

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And I was like, Oh God, is heanother fan?
Oh good.
Um, no, no, no.
It was not like that.
It was not that bad at all.
I'm kidding.
Only cause he's right here at myface.
Um, no, but, uh, a nicegentleman walked over and he's
like, Hey, I don't know you, butmy friend is a big fan of the
show.
Can we buy you around a drink?
Somebody call him out for beingRay, my little Ray rifle shirt.

(09:22):
Here's the thing, I, I feel likeRay is such a big, um, catalyst
for our relationship, um,

Speaker 2 (09:31):
because he's the reason for our relationship.
I don't tell him that all thetime, so hopefully he doesn't
hear it on here.
But it's the truth.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't, I hope he does hear it cause he deserves
it.
He's won hard work and talentedguy is the nicest man.
Um, and he's a little easy onthe eyes, ladies.
Um, anyhow, so he was a fan ofthe show, told Zeb to come over
and, and, you know, introducehimself.
And I was like, so who are you?
And he's like, my name is[inaudible].
He's like, but I don't know youand I've never seen the show.
I was like, all right, sit down.

(09:58):
And so literally in five minutesshe became security blocking.
You know, everybody who werevery nice but a little tipsy and
so,

Speaker 2 (10:08):
well, and what's crazy about Nashville, we're
getting off on a rabbit holehere, which is great.
But what's crazy about Nashvilleis we're so used to seeing music
artists.
When we see someone from LAwho's been in a show that they
get to see every week on TV,it's like, that's, we're seeing
they're seeing a star for thefirst time.
I'm like, what is going on here?
I just have to go talk to her.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah.
Which I love.
I love, love, love.
But um, you know, sometimes itgets overwhelming because, you
know, I'm like, I'm one person.
Yeah.
And I'm like, but I'm also likeone person and I'm like, ah.
But I really do love it and Ilove to connect with everybody
and, and to talk with them andto hear how the show has changed
them or help them and um, ofcourse as it's helped and

(10:48):
changed me.
So I get it.
I'm a fan of the my, you know,

Speaker 2 (10:52):
well, and as much as we joke, I would like to say
that you have really been a biginfluence on my life since then,
so it's pretty, yeah, we got iton recording.
Okay.
Um, no, you just really andtruly get into work with you as
men been an experience for me tohelp you.
Yes.
A great experience.
Just to navigate through, youknow, a new venture with you and

(11:14):
I know that music is your firstlove and being able to write
with people who you've looked upto as writers or I've gotten to
know in the writing room hasbeen really cool to help you.
And now moving into themanagement role with universal
and working with you, puttingout music for the word of the
year.
I mean it's, it's scary.
I'm not gonna lie, but I'mexcited and I'm excited for you.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Like I said earlier, I said, if it doesn't scare you,
you know, you ain't do it rightor it's not, maybe it's not as
important to you as you mightthink.
But, um, it's interestingbecause the way that
everything's sort of fallen intoplace, it's like, Oh, this is
obviously what was supposed tohappen.
And people always say like, Oh,why music now?
And I'm like, it's timing.
It's like the stars and maybebeing prepared and like, as they

(11:55):
say, when you know, the studentis ready, the teacher appears.
And like that's sort of how ithappens.
And so, um, it's just ironiccause I remember I was like, Hey
, um, are you going to CMTawards?
And um, yeah.
And I was like, I don't have a,I don't have a plus one.
Cause I was here, um, presentingwith rascal flats, uh, at the
same T awards.
And I was like, Hey Zach, do youwant to go?

(12:17):
And he's like, ah.
And Ray, like what kid?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
He was kicking me.
Yeah, he was kicking me underthe table the whole time.
I mean I still really and trulydid not know who Chrissy was and
what shows what shows she wason.
Anything of that.
Didn't Google her.
I should've Googled her.
So the next day I go to meet herfor the awards that Ray has
talked me into going to withher, not knowing I was going to

(12:41):
be down front and center withall the stars.
Yeah.
And you were presenting, youwere presenting with rascal
flats and so it was like we wereright behind Carrie and Mike.
I was sweating profusely.
Like when we sat down you werelike, are you okay?
And I was like, yeah, I'm great.
Like chugging water, likesitting there and it was, it was
a really cool experience.
I wouldn't want it to happen anyother way, but I was just like,

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Holy crap, what have I gotmyself in

Speaker 3 (13:05):
it.
There's like fast and furiouslike Oh you know me.
Great, let's go.
And it really hasn't stoppedsince then.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
No, it's been, talk a little bit about the writing
room and like the experiencewriting.
Cause I know that that'ssomething that I feel like
people who don't live inNashville or don't write
themselves don't reallyunderstand or can wrap their
head around.
So what happens in that process?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think it's one of the most magical things ever to
have three to four people gointo a room that may or may not
have known each other prior to,um, and in four to five hours
have a song that never existedof you know, things literally a
song that could change multiplemillions of people's lives if
not your own.

(13:46):
And that to me is the coolestthing that people just, you
know, you kind of chit chat ifyou're getting to know each
other, which I love cause Idunno if you can tell, but I'm a
talker.
Um, and you just get to knoweach other and sort of share,
you know, it's a very vulnerablespace and some people I think
are more receptive to thevulnerability and some people
are like, Oh okay cause I wearmy heart on my sleeve.

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So I'm like, look, I don't careif we talk about X, Y, Z.
I don't care how deep we go likeI want to talk about at all.
And so, um, yeah, you have, youknow, depending, you might have
a couple of people who play aninstrument or two or attract guy
who builds a track around amelody that you start sort of
cultivating.
If you have a phrase that peopleare throwing out, but it's

(14:27):
literally like, it's so organic,you know, I'm in the world of,
of, of acting.
It's, you might write a script,you get a first draft, you have
to let somebody read it.
It takes weeks and months andsometimes years to get anything
made to ever see it reach thelight of day.
And there's something so specialabout a song that like whether

(14:50):
or not ever hears it, it evergoes to radio or an album or
Spotify wherever, like it stillexists and it's still really
special and it was like capturedin that moment.
So, um, yeah, it's kind ofamazing.
People just sort of throw ideasat each other and they're like,
Oh yeah, the sticks and likethis one's good.
And like, Oh yeah, I love that.
And I have to say initially Iwas like, I'm afraid to say any

(15:12):
of my ideas out loud cause likewhat if I sound stupid, but like
nothing is stupid.
If anything, it's sort of this ajumping off point or it's like
the bridge to maybe your idea,you know?
And I think that's so specialthat somebody, somebody
terrible, right quotes, terribleidea could be the inspiration
for someone's brilliant ideathat becomes the title of the

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song or whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And jumping forward a year and a half from the first
time that you had to write,you've written majority of your
record that you're going to berecording this year or in the
process of writing it.
Yeah.
And another cool thing too, justtouching on that, giving the
listeners something else aboutwhere songwriting is, there's a
lot of writers in this town thataren't artists, so they write
for other people.
And we've had the opportunity tolisten to a lot of the best

(15:57):
written songs in Nashville whopeople said for you, for your
record, and we have someonehold.
So that's going to be exciting,

Speaker 3 (16:03):
which is, it's so exciting.
I mean, I, I love music so much.
It's like, I can't even put itinto words.
Um, as a fan, as a, you know,aspiring writer and co-writer
and singer and all, all thosethings, like it's really magical
when you hear something andyou're like, Oh, like it bowls

(16:24):
at your heartstrings or it's asong you can, or a demo, you
know, a work tape.
You can't stop listening to youand you're like, Oh no, no.
Like, I have to, I want torecord like I have to cut this.
Like this is, I remember yousaying like, Chrissy, I know you
listen to the song a milliontimes a day cause I can tell on
the tricks of the trade that youcan tell how many times I'll
listen to a particular, um, songhello,

Speaker 2 (16:46):
which is another inside note for those listening.
Is that us?
So my job when I'm not managingChrissy or managing the artists
that I work with is pitchingsongs that our writers wrote for
other artists.
And one of the things that we dois we have a software on our
computer that we can send a linkof songs and you can actually
see who's opened it, how manytimes they've listened to it

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when they stop listening to it.
So Chrissy didn't know that, butalso I didn't know that I had
turned that on cause it just byhabit I turn it on and every
morning I'll wake up and there'slike, Chrissy med has listened
to this and this like emails.
I was like, here we go.
But no, it was awesome.
Um, it's a way for us to tell,but also it was a way for me to
see what was resonating with youwithout you even telling me that

(17:30):
in a way to find more songs.
So it was a little sneaky, butit works now, you know,

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think that's, I mean, it's very authentic,
right?
Like I could say, Oh yeah,listen to X.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And sometimes you don't even realize you do that.
Like I send myself linkssometimes and then I go back,
I'm like, dang, I'll listen tothat 20 times.
I didn't know I listened to thatsong that much.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
That's what I do for,

Speaker 2 (17:50):
for anybody who cares if I have a song or a particular
album that I'm, that I love, Iwill not, I will not stop
listening to it.
Um, like right now I'm pushingup daisies like no brothers
Osborne, like I that song to me,I don't know how many times a

(18:10):
day I listen to it.
So it's perfect.
Um, but that's what I do.
Like I obsessive, we listened toa song or a particular album or
whatever.
Do you guys know first aid kit?
Have you heard this band?
They're Swedes, I believe inthis band.
Incredible.
Two girls.
They actually did a tribute toEmmylou Harris when she received

(18:30):
the Kennedy honors.
Oh Lord.
And they wrote a song calledEmmylou and it's, so, anyway, so
talking about an icon.
Hello somebody.
Yeah, they really saying rendergirl and red dirt girl.
Every time I say that fast,people are like, what did you
just say?
Um, any tendency anyway.
Um, uh, like I've been obsessed.

(18:51):
I've been obsessed listening toyou.
Well, speaking of, speaking ofalbums, I want to talk about
some albums from 2019 maybe theywere inspirational to you.
What, what were you listening towhile preparing yourself,
knowing that people were goingto hear that you were doing
music and you were writing, youknow, a couple of times a month.
What, what albums inspired youto, to like continue on the

(19:15):
journey or just everyday life?
Like what, what were youlistening?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Um, I listened to you girl Marin Morris, his album,
which I just love Helen back thebones, the bones all day.
Yeah.
Um, I also listened to, um,Natalie MBA's, um, album Puxico
where she's from.
If y'all don't know that album.
Oh, I know it.

(19:41):
Oh, and high women.
I love that.
Um, there's a song titled highwoman.
It brings me to tears everytime.
I, whew.
Don't let me think about it.
Um, it's, it's so powerful.
It is so powerful.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Childhood though.
What, what did you listen to?
Cause we're, we're completelydifferent just so everyone
knows, I know the song, but Idon't know the artist mode most
of the time.
I listen

Speaker 3 (20:08):
to everything from, you know, Stevie wonder to the
temptations to the staplesingers and Mavis staples.
And, um, gosh, I loved AlisonKrauss.
I, I, um, love Otis Redding.
I love Motown.
Love.
Let me say Motown.
And of course, you know, theWhitneys and Mariah and, um,
Whitney Houston still like oneof the best vocalists I think

(20:30):
that will ever have graced thisearth and galley.
Um, but, um, like the Doobiebrothers, I mean, just like
everything and anything.
I love the beach boys.
Um, what else did we listened toas a family?
Uh, Joel.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
As a family, where, where did you listen to music at
as a kid?
Do you remember?
Like places?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, a lot in the car.
So we, when I, my dad was in theNavy growing up and I lived
there for nine years and so we'dgo camping out in like literally
the country of Japan, which isso beautiful, but like very
scary steep Hills that my momwould be like CRA kids get out
of the car.
Like your father is making menervous.
I don't know, like the van mightfall off the side of the cliff

(21:13):
and I'm not kidding.
And maybe that's why I haveissues with people driving cars.
Now I have to do it myself.
I dunno.
Love you dad.
So I'm like Zam Zam safety firstkids and I mean that.
But um, so I think it wouldtypically be like driving around
or taking little family roadtrips, um, or going camping.
Yeah.
And it was such a, like anostalgic bonding time that

(21:35):
like, even though all of courseare, your parents are much
older, your siblings might be,you know, far in ages.
There's like this, thisnostalgic sensibility and, uh,
uh, you know, just the kind oflike a time capsule of that
period of your life that is sospecial when you think about it.
Like, Oh my God, this likedefined my, you know, summer

(21:57):
between sixth and seventh gradeor whatever, you know, whatever
it might be.
So yeah, typically or atparties, like my parents used to
get down, they had always there.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
See, my dad loves to dance, my mom hates the
attention, so it's like she'lldo it for him, but yeah.
But most of the time it's, it'shim out there doing a lot of
though

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'd probably pay money to see your dad dance.
First of all.
I can't wait to meet him.
Cannot.
Um, but yeah, like they'd alwayshave parties and you know, when
I think you're in the military,it's a very social, you know,
bonding sort of career.
Um, and so yeah, we would, yougot to get up to get Nam.
So we would, um, we'd do a lotof dancing and stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
So flashing forward to your music coming out for the
world to hear.
What, what, how would youdescribe the music that you're
making for the listener?
What do they expect?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh, no, no, no it's not, it's not, you know, to me,
um, it's me guys.
Um, it's so hard to sort of putit into a box because I have
been influenced by so many.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, and I don't mean like in between this
person, this person more so likewhat, what are the songs going
to be about?
What's the field, what do youwant people to take from it?
Like just kind of like a, abriefing of what to expect.
I mean, the way that I live mylife,

Speaker 3 (23:17):
you know, I always say like I'm very comfortable
with being uncomfortable becausethat's sort of how I've lived my
life.
And I think all of us have, likewe all have a story, we all have
something to share.
But for me it's like I want totalk about my heartache and my
heartbreaks and like how I'vehealed and how I've the self
care, like putting time backinto, you know, the long, the

(23:38):
long answer is, you know, makingsure that I love who I am
before, you know, I seek outsidevalidation and I think that, you
know, will be seen in oneparticular song called pretty
girl that I um, I really justlove Nicolette Hayford and

(23:59):
Lainey Wilson and Casey Brownand I wrote it together and it's
just, it's sort of anthemic injust reminding yourself like
what really makes you beautifulis the sacrifices, the
heartache, the, the trials, thetribulations.
Like it's not about what you'rewearing or you know, what you
drive or how much money's inyour bank account, but like who
you are as a person and how youtreat someone.

(24:20):
Like that's what makes youpretty and like that, that kind
of stuff.
For me, I just want to tell myexperiences and thank goodness I
get to tell them in song becauseyou know how you know how
emotional I am.
Zim.
So it's so nice that I get to dothat.
So that's really what it is.
It's like, how have I, how haveI been hurt?

(24:40):
How have I healed long?
The short short answer to yourquestion.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
So moving that, that's awesome.
By the way, I think you hit itright on the head.
Um, moving onto the acting sideof things, did you think 12, is
it 12 years in LA, 12 years agothat you would be making music
in Nashville because of theconnections that you had through
what you did in acting?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
No, I mean, I always thought about like, Oh my
goodness, people go toNashville, like they become big
musicians and like, this is socool.
They play in all these likerounds and they get to go and
like, there's somethinghappening every night here in
Nashville and there's incrediblemusicians and artists who people
don't even know.
And it's such a shame, but Inever thought like, Oh, okay.

(25:27):
So I'll take a bit of a detour.
I was a talent agent for nineyears.
Then finally got my chance atacting, uh, with, of course a
little show called this is usand um, just a little blame show
.
Um, and because it's changingthe narrative for not only
women, not only for networktelevision but for women who are
unconventional and for storiesthat are unconventional.

(25:50):
So, um, but it's like, it seemsvery natural that like finally I
think people are contending withwhat's really going on as
opposed to like, Oh, we'll justhave like the big explosive, you
know, funny comedic movies andTV shows, which are brilliant
and we all need an escape tosome degree of course.
But like the way that the showwas written, it's just seems

(26:12):
like it sort of unfolded in away that like, I continue to be
vulnerable.
I continue to like let this,that just let go and like let
the universe sort of conspire asI believe it does for all of us.
So the fact that, you know,Diane wrote the song or like
that I met Jason Halpert who wasKelly Clarkson's MD and
literally came up to me at thebillboard awards two years ago

(26:34):
and said and said, Hey Chrissy,you don't know me but I'm
Kelly's MD for the past 15years.
I'm like, I do know you.
But um, he said, God literallytold me to come and talk to you
about your music.
I'm like, what?
He's like, I literally heard avoice say help her with her
music.
He's like, I didn't even know ifyou wanted to do music.

(26:56):
And he's actually the firstperson to ever like approach me
about songwriting and to evenhave any connections in
Nashville.
Cause like you don't just showup and like I'm a youth, a lot
of people just show up.
But I couldn't necessarily justshow up and be like, Hey,
anybody want to write songs withme?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Just show up at your table like I did today.
By the way, to redeem myself.
I'm caught up on this as us.
Great show.
Well I take it back.
I'm not completely caught up.
I didn't watch last week'sepisode or this week.
Tuesday.
Yeah.
So I'll catch up on that afterthis.
But yeah, I'm on it and I loveit and I love everyone on it.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah.
I mean it's just so specialbecause it's really, I mean, as
we always say, it's sort of likea, a blueprint of like how do I
handle life?
The ups and downs, the ebbs andflows, the in between, you know,
we deal with paternity issuesand weight issues, race, um,
sexuality, um, miscarriage.
I mean everything we really wantrun the[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (27:53):
and it's in such a natural, real way.
I mean, it's like you get lostin the show.
I mean, I know you personallyand sometimes I don't even think
about it being you on the showbecause it's such a good line.
I mean, it just, I'm hooked, so.
Right.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, thank you.
Right away.
Love you.
Poop boots.
Um, but so Jason helper, um, heactually was like, well, I'll
set up some rights for you.
Have you ever done that before?
I was like, no, but I want to.
Then my first right in town waswith wait for it.
Everybody, the one and onlyNatalie, him, me and him, no big
deal.
And Daniel Tashia who worked, uh, I mean both of them worked

(28:33):
very closely with KaceyMusgraves on golden hour, which
that's another album on my booktour.
That's the only music I listenedto the entire, I think Donnie,
my best friend, as some of youguys might know, Donny Barry, my
best friend, um, he was like, itcan you, you're not going to
listen to anything else.
I'm like, no, I'm not.
Um, so anyway, that was myfirst.

(28:55):
Right.
And everyone's like, that's yourfirst right in Nashville.
I'm like, yeah.
And they're like, Oh, excuse me.
I'm like, no, no.
Like, I'm so grateful and youknow, so anyway, of course I'll,
I'll any town works isnetworking and um, got to work
with some other really great,um, you know, singer songwriters

(29:16):
and artists and started a yearand a half ago just coming to
Nashville on my own dimewhenever I had off from work.
If I had a long weekend, if youknow there was a break or a
holiday, you know, I literallyhad been Airbnb in at y'all.
Um, so yeah, so I've just, youknow, I think because the Oscar
nomination came out and then thearticle was, you know, many

(29:40):
articles we're reading Oh, Oscarnomination.
Um,

Speaker 2 (29:44):
no, I know you want to clear the air.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yes.
I just do guys because um, youknow, and I know some people
like to say some things on theinternets and I appreciate
y'alls time, but um, you know,some who were like, why does she
want to try to come to Nashvilleand what is she, you know, what
is she doing?
And yeah, let me tell you aboutthe pie I'm getting, I'm going

(30:06):
to the store, I purchase in myown ingredients and I'm deciding
how I want the pie to be made.
So I'm not waiting for somebodyto say, Oh, well do you like
this pie?
Do you want a piece of this pie?
Should we cook it?
I want, I want literally a pieceof the pie.
Like, I want to be able to saylike, I worked for it because I
wanted it and I spent my ownmoney and I did what I wanted to

(30:28):
do.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Well, and the music is going to speak for itself.
I mean, I've heard, I've heardthe songs, I know what you're
doing.
And I really truly believe thatyou have a place here and the
music is going to changepeople's lives.
So I'm excited about it and Iknow we could sit here and talk
about it all day, but I reallydo.
I mean, I endorse it forwhatever that means.
Not a lot, but you can take that50 cents to the bank.

(30:51):
So

Speaker 3 (30:52):
bye.
Bye.
I'm just some more pie crust.
No, but really, um, I just wantpeople to know that, you know,
it's not something that I islost on me, that I take for
granted.
The relationships, thenetworking, the experiences I've
had.
Like it means something to meand it's not because I'm like,
Oh, what's my next adventure?
It's music is something I'vealways wanted to do.

(31:15):
And whether I'm singing it toone person or 300 people or
whoever's going to hopefullyshow up when we go on tour.
Um, I'm singing it because Iwant to, cause I need to, you
know, so anyhow, I digressed.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I really want to take a break for a minute and
play a game.
If you don't.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
So I put some prizes.
What do I get to win this?
Nice.
Beautiful.
I mean, I think we're going totake a photo op for this and
I'll frame it and that can beyour prize.
But yeah, you can take, you cantake this secular too if you
want to.
I think it's the Airbnb.
They're probably going to chargeyou for it.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, it's going to be, um, I'll get a bad rating
and I'll never get to stay nextto the jail again.
You get ratings on Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
It's like Uber.
Have you ever looked at room?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, I got a 4.89 saying[inaudible].

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I want to know who rated me bad though.
Cause that's what I thought too,but I don't want to know about
it.
I don't care.
I don't want to know about, solet's play a little this or
that.
All right.
I just want people to know alittle bit more about you and I
think I'm gonna learn somethings here.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Are you on Pepsi?
Coke all day long.
Coke.
Coke, like, no, here's thething.
My step daddy, he used to workfor Coke Cola for 42 years and
so we always had Coke productsand Fresca is my jam, so I
didn't know that.
Oh yeah.
Um, and I, I don't mind a dietPepsi, but if someone's like

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Coke or Pepsi, Coke.
Coke.
Yeah, true.
Yeah.
A left handed or right handedin.
What regards me?
Yeah.
You.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely righthanded the Baton with my left
though.
Can't do with my right.
See, I'm lefthanded, I can't doanything with my right hand.
Well, I broke my fingers infifth grade and so I had to
write with my right hand for alittle while, but I can't, I

(33:00):
tried it fingers.
I think I was rollerblading.
I can't, yeah.
Rollerblading.
I was rollerblading on thedriveway and fell.
And I actually think that myparents told me I didn't break
it.
It was just jammed.
So I went like a week without itand then I had to go get a cast.
But yeah.
So I had to, I had to write withmy right hand for a little
while, but I can't, no, I can'tdo it anymore.

(33:20):
I tried, uh, comedy or horror.
Oh, I'm not like scary movies.
Not at all.
Even Medea, have you seen,

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I haven't seen boo, but I love Medea.
One of my favorite charactersand I love Mr.
Tyler Perry.
Um, one I, I could quote anyway.
I have not seen no.
When she's like logger come alogger, she's, he said hello,
why are you at?
She said you'll open the closet.

(33:52):
Like you don't understand howmuch of somebody's anyhow, I'd
haven't even watched view causethere's, I think it's too scary
for me.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's not, you should watch it.
I don't want to be there whenyou watch movie.
Okay.
Also, just, just a side note,Chrissy can impersonate pretty
much anyone I've ever met.
So it's,

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I just, people are incredible and fascinating to
me.
And I love to just listen toaccents and cadence of a voice
and stuff, so I appreciate thatthen.
Oh, and for those of you whodon't know, a little shameless
plug, I play Maymay on the KungFu Panda series on Amazon prime.
So, um, if you want to checkthat out, the characters Mae Mae

(34:28):
, she's super cute.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
What, what does she sound like?
Is that her voice?
Just my, it's just me.
Oh, well dang.
I was hoping we were going toget something extra.
No.
All right.
Ready?
Plane for what?
To ride in a boat or a plane.
What would you prefer to like,am I going to mind?
Marcus was covered.
Well explained because I knowthe boat thing.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Here's the thing, I can swim and I'm a good floater.
However, um, it's one of thosethings where like how fast are
you driving?
Where are you going and theHills and the water.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm like, Oh, but then Ithink about an airplane,
although that is the safest formof travel.

(35:12):
If I need to get somewhere in atimely manner, I will say the
plane.
A boat is just for chilling.
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
But what I don't like what a plane is, I feel like I
get sick every time I fly.
I feel like it's just like atunnel of germs.
No, I don't why I should wipe itdown, but I don't normally I sit
next to the woman was wipingeverything.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I'm on you some wet ones.
Let me tell you something.
Last time I was fine over here.
I sat in this guy seat and uh, Iprefer the window.
I don't know how y'all see thewindow until I got to go to the
bathroom and then I have todisturb somebody and then I feel
all kind of bad.
But so this guy, he was like,Oh, you're sitting in my seat.
And I was like, Oh, you don'thave the window.
Most people will fight you forthe window.
He was like, no, I want theaisle.

(35:51):
I'm like, okay, so well I wipedown your seat and everything
for you.
He was like, Oh, well thank you.
And that I didn't even wipe myown down for shame.
That's okay.
I was being[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (36:01):
you didn't get sick though, did you?
That was it.
That was a good thing you helpedsomeone out so you didn't get
sick

Speaker 3 (36:05):
hallelu but what you need to do is bring some wet
ones round and wipe it downdown.
And why would I want that?
And I'm telling you over reallyhelp

Speaker 2 (36:14):
and you don't like the water that you don't like.
What's in the water?
You're worried about that whenyou're on a boat?
Yeah.
First of all y'all, cause we'regoing to key West.
We're going to once this yearand I already brought up about
going on the jet skis and yousaid, what'd you say?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I said if I can't see the bottom and I can't touch the
bottom, my bottom ain't going onjet ski.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause I can't chance it before ajet skied ever for the first
time and Turks and Caicos, whenI went on vacation I was YouTube
being Googling.
How do you get back on the jetski?
Should you fall off?
Y'all thin people can't even geton that damn thing.

(36:51):
I was like, what's my big behindgoing do like I'm gonna really
struggle and if you don't havelike leverage, you're going to
be walking at swimming up thingbag.
Anyway, all this to say

Speaker 2 (37:01):
plain, plain.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Totally.
I'd like a clear blue warmwater.
That's what I'd like to say.
Listen, no, no, no, no.
I was like, I'll, I'll take aplane.
But I'm saying if I'm in a boatI'd like clear blue.
Can I see the bottom water?
I was in a Lake with my brotherand driving the pontoon boat and
let me tell you some right now.

(37:24):
Listen, we are in this dirty oldmucky Lake and they were like,
you know, there are alligatorsin here and this was like this.
There we go.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
They were probably or Florida.
I know.
Me too.
And I mean they are, but theydon't, they don't swim that far
out.
I mean they stay, they stay onthe bank.
They're more scared of you thanyour schooling.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I, I'm sorry.
I think you're any accurate.
That is natural.
I legitimately was like, we got,there's alligators in here.
They're like, for sure mybrother-in-law and my brother
jump off the pontoon boat.
I can't, I don't see them.
The water is so nasty.
I'm like, and this was rightgoing into second season of the
show.

(38:03):
So I'm like, my life has justbegun.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
How did you make that money?
Please let me stay on this boat.
Just

Speaker 3 (38:08):
pay my bills.
You know how much debt I was in?
I was like, Oh Jesus.
Oh Jesus.
And then I thought my brotherwas playing around and he gets
back on the boat and it won'tturn like they won't turn on.
And I'm like, how?
What is the proximity from theboat to the shore?
How quickly do I have to swim?
What's in the water?
What do I have to do?
Do I stay quiet?
Do I swim slow?
It's like zombies.
So what I'm saying, I got to getin shape for the apocalypse was
all I gotta say.

(38:29):
Not that it's gonna happen.
I'm just saying these are thethings to think about.
So all that to say my brotherwas like, Oh, I guess there was
air inside the, the gas tank.
And so you have to let the airout.
Right?
Or something.
Y'all know about this trip.
I talk about anxiety.

(38:51):
Like I literally was tapping,like you could tap on your
Meridian points and stuff.
I was breathing deep breathing.
I was like, Lord, whatever youshould want for me, but I don't
want to die on this leg, thisdirty Lake.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So anyway, I'll say a plane.
Okay, I'll just roll on withthis.
A text message or call who'scalling?
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
No, um, I think calling can be invasive if you
like.
If you just have a quickquestion, I don't have to give
you this explanation, but thisis how you get to know me.
I felt like a text message isgreat.
If you have just got a quick andlike you just need a quick
answer.
But I think calls are sopersonal and so sweet and it's
nice to hear someone's voice andtheir inflection and like, you
know, it's nice, like I listenwhen I was a talent agent,

(39:38):
that's, it was like we used totalk all the time on the phone
and then it became so electronicthat nobody had conversations
anymore.
So what, you're a texter, huh?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
No, I mean I think I agree with you.
I mean, if it's something thatis more important, more
important, or just somethingthat I can pick up and call, I
feel like I talked to you on thephone more than I do text just
because a lot of the times I'mdriving or where I'm going.
But no, I'm the same.
I think it depends on thesituation, but I love call me

(40:10):
guys eight one eight and I'mkidding.
Four seven.
How about a continue?
We'll sell this.
This podcast will make a lot ofmoney.
If you give that number, that'swhat they do.
Right?
These people start with, they'relike texting me, call me.
Yeah.
But you know, they get fakenumbers.
They get these apps, try to callJ-Lo cause he really wanted to,
um, he asked that baby, I wishDonnie was here.

(40:31):
I don't think that's reallygoing to go through to Jennifer.
I don't think so.
I really don't.
And he was like, well you neverknow.
Did they respond to him?
She's like, Hey, it wasn't her.
It's probably some 19 year oldintern somewhere.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I just say, you know, I love Donny cause he's just,
you know, it was so sincere.
Um, but anyway, that, anyway,

Speaker 2 (40:50):
all right, we're ready for this one.
No pizza or hot dog.
Oh Hey.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
What is better than cheese and bread?
Um, hot dog and bread.
I'll do like, but here's thething, what do you like on your
hot dogs?
I like them plain with a squishybun.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
No ketchup, no mosquito.
We did for there, I think.
No, I think I would do justmustard.
What kind of mastered branches?
Claim squiggle line in thecommercial.
No, I don't like it.
I want it right down the side.
Oh, it's even

Speaker 3 (41:20):
right.
That's how I feel about PB andJguys.
If you haven't done this, if youhave kids or not, I taught
preschool so I know when jellygets gloopy gloopy gloppy
listen, tell me right now thatif you ever made a PB and J the
butter to jelly ratio is neverthe same.
A B, maybe I'm greedy, but B,the jellies always gloppy right?

(41:40):
It's like m u coming out thebread.
What you do, m aybe a s you mixit, you mix it and then put it
on t he bread.
Really, o r y ou're j ust fine.
Uncrustable you ever h ave one?
Those ain't nobody won't k now.
Fifth grade.
No, I w as live on those.
What really?
B ut here's the thing.
Y eah.
H ere's h ow I l ike my PB and Jon wheat bread, mixed peanut

(42:04):
butter and jelly.
G reat jelly.
I don't mess with t hestrawberry.
Strawberry jam i s for anEnglish muffin with b utter
also.
Oh, shadow.
U m, no I can't do that cause Ih ave freaks out w ay t o d o t
hat.
U m, also I like it with apretzel or an Oreo cookie.
That's a perfect picnic snack.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Cut it down the middle.
No, no triangle.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Well, yeah, not the middlediagonal, so you can open it up.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
We open it up and then you put the Oreos and the
pretzels right at the end.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know, I think I saw you, dude.
You did something with that.
Maybe it was the new magazinevideo, the

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh yes.
Because they ask how do I cut mysandwiches?
That's where I saw that you'relistening.
Thank you.
Also, I don't know what it is.
I, there's not really anythingsmall about me, but my head, it
feels like I never can fitheadphones.
Even when we're in[inaudible]studio, they're like always too
big, so I apologize for[inaudible].

Speaker 2 (42:57):
No, I mean, I think you haven't really messed with
them that much anyhow.
It's fine.
Anyways.
All right.
Moving on.
Online shopping or

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Connie, what do you think?
Yeah, correct.
Correctly.
I can't tell you, I don't knowif you heard this, but like
Kylie Jenner spent like, I thinkit was like$100,000 in Postmates
in one year.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Post Malone did a lot too.
We're not going to get, we'renot going down that rabbit hole.
No, I shouldn't have said that.
Name

Speaker 3 (43:25):
post.
I honestly love you.
No seriously though.
I don't know him but I think Ido love him.
Um, no but here's the thing.
Postmates is super convenientalso.
Why it hasn't Postmates thansomething with post Malone.
Get on that y'all does he needan endorsement?
Doubted also I Postmates all thetime cause it's convenient as
heck and Amazon prime.

(43:46):
This is not a plug, it's justshameless.
I buy so much stuff onlinebecause either I'm not home or
going out, you know, becomeslike an event and you have to
sort of carve out time anyway.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well and I've got, I've gotten a bad habit of using
Amazon prime too cause you knowthey linked your credit card so
it's just like as soon as youput it in the cart you opened it
up.
It's like boom.
Whether you want it or not, youjust bought it and then you
forget what you bought and itshows up at the house.
It's like

Speaker 3 (44:11):
gift.
But yeah, it's kind of excitingsometimes until you're like no
funny stories.
Different stories.
Yeah.
I know.
Funny story.
I bought a, um, what's shecalled?
What'd she call?
No, no.
Um, cornhole.
I bought corn hole.
Right.
And this big old box comes andon.

(44:32):
He's like, Chrissy, what did youorder?
And I'm like, that's not mine.
And he's like, of, it's notmine.
He's like, what is it aheadboard?
And I'm like, I don't know.
It's not mine.
I was adamant.
I was like, I him buy nothingthat ain't mine.
Sure enough.
His Cornell and it's mine.
So yeah, just to prove yourpoint.
All right, two more cups in thecabinet.

(44:54):
Upside down or right side up,right.
Set up, see dust.
All kinds of crap is going toget on when if you put them up.
What about you got a dirty,dirty platform and you turn them
upside down.
They're gonna get dirty too.
And on the lip.
And also it's your cabinet whodoesn't clean their cuffs before
they put something in it thatyou wipe it out?
No.
Oh, guilty.

(45:14):
Guilty as charged.
Last one, which, you know, mom,but gum or mints, it really
depends on what's going on.
And I can't choose.
That's when you know you gotmoney when you can have multiple
mints and gums in your laugh.
But that's not true cause I'mnot made of money and I have a
lot of money.
People spend money on what'simportant to them.

(45:37):
Um, I like gum.
If I got, I feel like I've eatenand I've got little something in
my teeth or something.
Mince is like, um, when youdon't want to be rude and like
chew, you know what I mean?
Cause I think chewing gum islike, she's fine.
Can be and it hurts my teethafter a while.
It actually tightens your jaw,singers, vocalists, people who

(45:59):
are speakers, all the knowledgehat and your jaw.
Um Oh and shadow to Amy Chapman.
Guys, if you're in LA, she isincredible.
She does a Lennox and vocalmassage and she'd like loosens
the jaw and all the muscle.
She's incredible.
Amy Chapman, y'all visit hervoice lab, I think.com.

(46:20):
I'm just saying she'sincredible.
Okay, that's it.
I'll stop talking.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
All right, so we're going to change it up just a
little here.
This is a, this is a questionthat I'm just curious about and
I think people will really enjoyit too.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
That I think that's inappropriate.
Just kidding.
No, I'm just like, wait, whatdid I say?
Did I say something bad?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
No.
So what, who's the mostinfluential person in your life
maybe growing up?
Um, yeah, as a whole.
Like who, who have you looked upto?
Um, I know in your book, whichwe'll, we'll give your book a
plug here in a minute.
Um, you talked about a few, butI was just curious who that
person might be.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You know, it's hard to pick one person.
Um, but the women in my familyare some of the toughest, most
resilient women that I know am,and that including my
grandmother who is, um, beengone for some time, but like,
she really believed in me when Ididn't, when I didn't believe in

(47:20):
myself and she really instilledlike a sense of faith and like,
um, just a belief in[inaudible],you know, a reason of why we're
here, what we're doing.
And um, yeah, I mean, it's hard.
Like, it's hard to just chooseone person, but, um, you know,
sometimes we don't realize likewhat lessons people teach us

(47:43):
until like they sort of come tofruition and you're like, wow.
Um, but I really am influencedand other sounds like a cop out.
But I really am influenced by somany people, whether it's like a
single mom just trying to paythe bills or you know, somebody
aspiring to be a singer or awriter or own, you know, an
entrepreneur owning their ownbusiness.

(48:05):
Like I am influenced andinspired by everybody cause like
we are all just as I say, likewalking each other home, which
is one of the most beautifulthings I think I've ever heard.
Um, so part of choose.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah.
So speaking of your family,spend a minute and talk about
them.
I get to hear about them a lotand I know they're, it's a
comical situation with all ofthem, but just, just talk a
little bit about how manysiblings you have and your
family.
And

Speaker 3 (48:33):
um, so I'm one of five.
Um, I have an older brother andsister.
I'm the middle of my mom, thenhad two, um, my two younger
sisters, so I was the, the babyfor a minute when we lived in
Japan and I was spoiled rotten.
I had like all the coolest toys.
Like I had a cabbage patch kidwith braces and headgear off of
that was dope.
And I also had like this andmake this like, um, McDonald's

(48:56):
sort of restaurant thing whereyou put bread in and it like
shapes burger patties and likebuns and thing.
It was cool.
Um, anyway, so then my mom had,um, my two younger sisters who,
um, you know, everybody, we'reall pretty close.
Um, well really close.
We talk like every day and ifnot, you know, multiple times a
day.
And, um, my sister just had herfourth baby.

(49:19):
Y'all, I don't even know if Ihave clean underwear on.
I don't know how she, I do, bythe way, I have Cleveland rock.
Um, I don't know how she takescare of, I know, but like she is
so classy that Chrissy, um, Idon't know how she does it.
And she also takes care of mymom who had a stroke two and a
half years ago.

(49:40):
Um, but my mom's doing reallywell.
Um, yeah, she just sort of doesit all.
And then my oldest sister, she'ssort of matriarchal in, in the
sense of like, she sort of tookcare of us for a long time.
And my mom, I mean talk abouthumble beginnings.
There are times, and to sort ofpiggyback on your, when you
bring it up, my book, when youbrought up my book that, um,

(50:03):
they're, you know, my sisteroftentimes didn't go to school
because she needed to babysit usand, um, didn't get to do the
things that she necessarilywanted to do because my mom
couldn't afford daycare and mysister would stay home and watch
us.
And times that my mom wouldn'teat because there wasn't enough
food to go around or enoughmoney to pay for the food.
And, um, yeah.

(50:25):
So, um, you know, when, I meanwe've been through a lot and I
think that's really whatsolidifies a relationship is
like just being in the trenchestogether and I'm coming out on
the other side of it.
So, um, I'm hoping to do like asisters, uh, you know, girls
trip.
Um, and with my[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (50:44):
down the road, we need to get all of you on a
podcast talks about.
I don't think I'd be ready forthat

Speaker 3 (50:49):
if y'all want to, if y'all want to see how my brain
is sucked out of my body ontelevision, please watch family
feud.
Uh, we were on family, fewcelebrity family feud.
I watch that, but I'm going towatch the, let's just say, um,
Steve Harvey was like, what,what?
Like he, he couldn't understandwhy the hell I responded that

(51:12):
way and frankly neither could I.
So my brain was literally suckedout of my body trying to answer
some questions, which I thoughtI was going to be good at
anyway.
I've haven't lived that down.
I think we need redemption.
But anyway, yes, my sisters, ifyou think that, like, I always
say this, but like I'm thetamest of my sisters.
If that means anything to you,like I'm like the diplomat, I'm

(51:35):
sort of like, you know, the, Idon't want to say, uh, I just,
I'm obviously opinionated, butthey will tell you about your
behind and have no qualms aboutit.
And I'm like, well guys, listen,I think she said this because of
that.
And I really think that shemeant that I'm the diplomat.
I'm like trying to fix it.

(51:56):
Yeah.
For sure.
Much like Kate,

Speaker 2 (51:58):
how have they been though with under your journey
in LA has been 12 years.
How were they along the way?
Like were they ever, were theyalways supportive?
Was there times when they'relike, all right, Chrissy, it
might be time for you to likecome over said that, but I think
they might've thought that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
To be honest.
I mean, how do you not, how doyou not like want to make sure a
loved one is,

Speaker 2 (52:20):
do you want to take care of them?
You want to be honest with them?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah.
Um, but I, I, I don't know ifthey believe it all along and
just were afraid to like sharethat with me or, or maybe they
didn't and maybe I proved them,you know, prove them wrong.
I don't know.
I haven't really asked and Idon't think I want to, but they
always,

Speaker 2 (52:39):
they wouldn't tell you now.
Maybe they might.
They probably would.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
They might, but they've always been supportive
and encouraged me like I wouldright before I booked the show.
True story.
I know I say it an everyday I'minterview, but I did have 81
cents in my bank account.
I was on unemployment, thinkingabout moving back home to
Gainesville and like teachingpreschool again or something.
I didn't know what to do, but,um, I was like, I don't think
this is the path for me.

(53:02):
Like I don't if it's been 12years, like what?
I don't understand.
Um, and I didn't want to bedelusional.
And so I would call my mom andI'd call my sisters and I'm
like, I don't know what to do.
Like, should I move home?
And my mom said like, you can bemiserable in LA or you can be
miserable at home, but at leastyou're pursuing something.
At least you're doing what youwant to do and you haven't given
up.
And that's the thing.

(53:23):
I think we all tend to sort ofgive up the 11th hour like
right, right before the miraclehappens is a lot of people say
like right before the kickoffwe're like, ah, I forget it.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
When I believe that, I feel like God always gives you
hope whenever.
Like he let you, you are at yourlowest point and then there's
that.
Like I tell that to a lot ofpeople in Nashville too, like
songwriters or artists who aredoing the same thing.
It's like right when they get tothe point of giving up, it's
like God gives that little pieceof hope, makes them stay a
little longer.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
It happened to me so many times like along the way
like cause I was a talentedagent.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
What did you have like what were give some like
show pieces or what you didleading up to the[inaudible]?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
I, I didn't do much.
I probably had maybe 15auditions in like 12 years.
Like not a lot.
I mean, some people have 15auditions a week.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of people have alot opportunity and I just
didn't, but like I also knewthat when I was down or I was
like, Oh, I would see a movie orI would go to a showcase and I

(54:24):
see these aspiring actors andI'm like, Oh, this is why I want
to do this.
Like it made me feel somethingand then I realized like, Oh,
this isn't about me and about mytime, it's about the bigger
picture of like, you're not herefor your ego.
Like it's not in my ego's time.
You're here to do your higherpower, your God's will, whatever

(54:45):
you want to call it.
I always say that because I feellike sometimes people get a
little, you know, they're like,[inaudible] don't say God, but
whatever you want to call it.
Um, obviously we know there'ssomething, there's a higher
power.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah.
Without God, I wouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Amen.
Um, yeah.
Amen.
So, um, anyway, I just believethat God has, you know, a
journey and a path for everybodyand that whatever's meant for
you is going to happen andnobody can take that away.
But it's not always you in yourtime.
But like if I found success 10years ago, right when I moved to
LA, I would know what the heck,which way was up.

(55:19):
Like I, I mean it's so crazybecause everything that
happened, you know, I was anagent so I got to be of service
and that's part of the reasonwhy we're here on this plane of
existence.
Like to be of service to otherpeople.
I got to learn how tocommunicate with people and
interview people that I've nevermet before.
You know, when they'd come andaudition for me.
And it was awkward and it waslike, how do I navigate this

(55:40):
conversation?
And that's what I do on thecarpet when we have interviews.
Like people ask, Oh, I thinkit's probably the jail people.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
There's a beeping going on out Saturn that came
from,

Speaker 3 (55:50):
it might be the, um, what's it called?
You know that?
Is there a train close?
Oh yeah, there is a train.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Oh okay.
There we go.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Hey rod,

Speaker 2 (56:00):
they're just running business down the street and
that's all we knew.
Listen,

Speaker 3 (56:02):
we've got to do, people got to make money.
So anyway, all of these thingssort of queued up the, the
moment, you know like rightbefore this has happened and I
had no money and I was livingwith a friend who was like,
Christie I know you're good forit.
Like you're going to pay me backone day.
Like I believe you.
I'm telling you it's going tohappen for you.
And I was like I don't think itis and maybe I should be okay

(56:24):
with that.
And of course as soon as Irelinquished the control,
something happened, right.
As soon as I, and this has beenlike my motto, we talked about
it on some, in some interview acouple weeks ago.
Like my thing is like justsurrender and trust.
Just surrender and trust thatlike your God, your higher
power, God is working for you,cause firing for you.

(56:46):
Like it's, it's a real thing.
Like if you put the work in.
So I always tell people like ifyou put the work in, if your
intentions are good, some peopleI think want to do music or
whatever, fill in the blankbecause, um, or be all things
like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Songwriter, actress, musician,

Speaker 3 (57:09):
all of it.
New York times bestseller.
It's fine.
No, I'm just kidding.
Kevin O'Leary and my ghostwriter.
Thank you.
Lovey, bail.
Um, no, but like all of thosethings cued me up to like, to do
what it is that I wanted to do,but like my intentions were
never to be famous.
My intentions were never tocause I was like, I want to be
rich.
That was never, it was I feelalone.

(57:32):
How do I relate to someone?
How can someone relate to me?
How do I feel less alone and howdo I get to tell stories?
And, um, how do I share thereally difficult moments of my
life with other people tohopefully help them get through
their difficult moments?
And I really believe that, likeif your intentions are good and
you're doing it for the rightreasons, it will happen.

(57:55):
And just the might not be inyour time.
I agree.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
And, and kind of piggybacking off that, one of
the things that I wanted to talkto you about is what, what you
would say to a listener who is,you know, chasing that dream or
that goal.
Not even, maybe if it's notacting, maybe they're just
starting their own business oryou know, becoming, um, having
enough money to be able to liveon their own or, you know,

(58:19):
getting, getting a promotion atwork, whatever it might be.
What is that like piece ofadvice that you wish you
would've had when you were 20 or21 or 18, whatever it might be?

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Well, to piggy back on what I was saying before,
like it is really about like,why do you want to do something?
What is your intention?
Everything is about intention,whether it's a social media
post, whether it's I want to goout to this bar because there's
this guy or there's this girl,you know, and even though I
should probably stay in, Ishould probably stay in and
study or I should probably stayin and get some sleep so I can

(58:52):
get up and go to the gym.
So I can create these esteemableacts that create self esteem,
right?
When we, every time we dosomething we sort of put in, um,
something into our confidencebank.
Like that's, that's how youbecome, like you have that true
sense of self.
And I think that if you areclear about what your intentions
are and what you're doing, youknow, that's, that's the first

(59:13):
thing.
And also it's going to take workyou that that's never, it's
never going to go away.
Nothing comes free.
I don't care who you are, howmuch money you come from,
whatever.
Nothing comes free.
You all have to work for it.
And like that is, when do youhave that grit?
Like, it doesn't mean that muchto you that you will do it no

(59:33):
matter what you know.
And it's sometimes things, youknow, look really bleak and
you're like, maybe I don't,maybe I don't want to do this.
But if you, I always say askpeople, like if you did
something and didn't get paidfor it, like would you still
want to be a music manager orwould you still want to be
involved in music if you'd nevergot paid for it?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, I think I did it for a few years without
making money.
I mean, I was working otherjobs, but yeah, I truly, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah.
And so that's when, you know, Ithink it's a passion.
You know, like when you, Ican't, I, I don't want to live
without music.
I don't want to not be in themusic.
Same thing with storytelling.
And that's what's so great abouttransitioning.
Not even transitioning, but justlike sort of expressing this
other side of my storytellinghappens to be to a melody and
to, you know, music.

(01:00:21):
But it's really about like thework, the intention, the work,
studying.
Like, look at people who havecome before you and how they did
it and sort of like somebody,somebody actually gave me this
really great advice.
He said, work backward.
Like if you find an actor, likeI love Melissa McCarthy and I
love her.
I think she's incredible.
And I'm like, Oh wait, what didshe do?
You know, like, Oh, okay, sothis movie and this movie.

(01:00:42):
And then she did like, peopledidn't know that she was on all
the, you know, Gilmore girls andSamantha who and all these TV
shows before she came, you know,became a huge, a blockbuster
comedian, actress.
But so study what it is that youwant to do.
Know what it is that you want todo.
Look at people who've comebefore you work for it.
And Davon Franklin, I'll neverforget this, he said something

(01:01:04):
so profound.
He said, you have to be willingto carry a crown before you wear
one.
And that's, that's just thebottom line.
Like that sums it up.
I think so eloquently.
And, um, you know, also knowthat you might've had an idea of
, Oh, you know, I want to be anactress.
I had a friend who, uh, was myassistant and then she's like,

(01:01:24):
Oh, I want to be an actress.
And now what she discoveredthrough everything was like she
wanted to produce, she didn'twant to act like she wanted to
make things happen.
And so sometimes we take adifferent path or diff,
different detour to find outwhat it is that we really want.
And so that could be, you know,that season of your life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Well, not honestly, to be honest.
That was one of the reasons whyI wanted to start this podcast.
Not because I'm comfortablesitting here interviewing people
and listen to myself.
But it was because I felt likeeveryone has a story in a moment
where they can talk about howthey got from point a to point
B.
And 90% of the time I don'tactually all the time I have
never found someone who has thesame path.

(01:02:02):
And it's always, for me, when Imoved to town, you know, I
didn't, I didn't know that I wasgoing to be a music manager or
working with songwriters.
I just wanted to move here tohelp music artists.
And I was like, I don't knowwhat it's going to take, but I'm
going to try it and I'm going togive it everything.
But the path that I went on, itwas completely different.
And I never thought that wewould be doing a podcast.
But my whole purpose of this wasto show people the journey of

(01:02:23):
success that people have been onand from point a to point B and
how they got there.
And to motivate other people whoare trying to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah.
And that's you being of service,right?
Yep.
And I always say this, and thisis, so if you don't take
anything away from thisconversation, I just know with
every fiber of my being that youcannot keep anything you don't
give away.
So the, and it's cyclical,right?
So like if you, if you givesomething away, if you're of
service that's going to comeback to you tenfold and you did

(01:02:52):
it because you wanted to helppeople and that means you are
going to be helped.
And so like if we all did that,we could all take care of each
other and from a non ego placeand like we be good, you know?
So that's lovely.
And I think it's such a nicething and believe it's not easy,
you know, like, you know, youput your own money into the
investment of it and everybody'sworking hard behind the scenes,

(01:03:14):
you know, but it's, it's goingto help somebody that is
literally somebody going to hearsomething, a nugget of something
and it could change their paththat is so special.
Like that to me is so crazy andso wonderful.
So I'm glad that you're doing itand thanks for having me to

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
thank you for coming by today.
Not coming by.
We came to you and this niceAirbnb, but um, no, seriously.
Thank you.
I know we, we've been workingtogether a lot and so for you to
take the time to do this and bethe first one, not knowing what
this podcast is going to be likeyet, you're kicking it off.
And so thank you for coming by.
How can people find you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
They can fund me.
No, just kidding.
Um, yeah, you don't need to cometo my house.
Um, I mean if you want to, um,you could find me.
Of course a st Lou was rollingon the, um, on incident Bram or
Twitter.
Um, my name is Chrissy Metz, C HR.

(01:04:12):
I.
S.
S Y M E T.
Z sweaty balls.
Um, uh, no seriously.
At Chrissy Metz, um, on the oldBram and on the Twitters, the
exclusive sign or something.
Y'all, it was on SNL.
People have heard it before.
True.
Okay.
Um, and y'all, if you go to myFacebook, this is a true story.

(01:04:34):
I'm just going to leave you withthis.
The old Facebook company, I wantto talk to Mark the Facebook has
said that I'm an imposter ofChrissy men.
Not once, honey, not twice butthree times a lady.
Three times they thought that Iwasn't[inaudible]

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
well, we've had to call in the heads of universal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
I'm a call Mark myself, I'm going to call them.
Um, I just feel like Iappreciate, I appreciate the
time, the energy and effort, butit's really me guys.
So anyway, if you try to followme on Facebook, Chrissy Metz
official on Facebook for rightnow, my personal one, I don't
know what's happened, but I ammyself and Instagram, Twitter at

(01:05:15):
Chrissy Metz.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Sweet.
Well thank you for doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
It's my pleasure.
Really.
I can't wait for the music tocome out.
I'm excited to see what's comingwith the new acting roles and
everything you have going on.
So thank you.
Let's talk about the movie thatI don't know, we'll have to do a
second take when that comesaround for sure.
Give a plug port real quick.
I met a woman, my book tour, whohad a book that she wrote about

(01:05:39):
summiting Kilimanjaro.
I'm at 300 pounds and I meanthese, you have to understand
like major athletes don't eversummit Kilimanjaro.
And it's such a mind game.
You travel five climates througheight days.
Uh, it's not a quick race kindof, you know, hike.
Anyway, so she gave me her book,I read it after shooting

(01:06:00):
breakthrough and I was socompelled, I was like, I have to
help her tell her story.
And she wrote this beautifulnote in the book and she said,
in your book you said, um, forus to tell you what we dream and
we aspire to have and I want tomake my story into a movie.
And a year and a half later, uh,Amazon, Jen sulky, who was the

(01:06:21):
president of Amazon, um, Iworked with her at NBC.
They decided to buy the film andwe just hired a writer.
And so we're looking for adirector and hopefully, um,
we're going to get it donepretty soon

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
they wait for that.
So you can find Chrissy on allthe socials.
You can find her book.
This is me.
Anywhere that books are sold andyou can download the audio
version and listened to her onthat.
You can see her on this as us.
You can see her on thebreakthrough and you can hear a
country album coming later thisyear.
Thank you, Chrissy.