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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, what's going on everybody. Welcome to a new episode
of My Candicass. I'm Kenned Dave. I'm grooving. On today's episode,
we have special guest owner of Exquisite Extractions, Trent in
(00:31):
the building and the newest partner. Yes, so if you
haven't heard, now you know you don't know now you
know that's right. Well, welcome man. I'm excited to learn
about Exquisite everything you guys are doing. You already got
one loaded up. That's right, Exquisite easey.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You see him on Trend's shirt, Trent shirt. I'm sorry,
I'm not taking you with your full name right now.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Right, you're the old Lady's Jack Brier in the summer.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Look how beautiful this has.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, that's our newest trained h strawberry guava just you know,
checks all the boxes for me. It's it's that that
perfect turt profile, that that exotic you know, papaya with
a smooth, mellow strawberry. Good, good turb content.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Great, great texture, great car.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah yeah it really.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I haven't dabbed it yet, but I'm about good. Yeah.
But yeah, like let's always diving all this, let's get
some background on you, Trent, Like, look at you into cannabis.
How do you usually smoke? I'm assuming Davs is your
go to, but is it not? Maybe let us know,
let's let's get a little background on you. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, man, So you know, I've I've been in the
game about ten years. You know, I started back when
I was you know, just about twenty twenty one. You know,
I had I had a bunch of jobs before. I
just did did a bunch of different stuff. I was
a cook for a few years. I did some vet
tech stuff. I actually was going to school Detroit Mercy
for my master's event.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You did vet tech stuff cool Ver.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, for three years. Animals Yeah, shout out, shout out
VIP uh but uh so, so Yeah, you know, I
I did a bunch of stuff. I wanted to learn
who I was very early on and explore as much
as I could. I literally had twenty jobs by the
time I was twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And that's no lie, damned back.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But it wasn't because I was just because you just
weren't happy. Just you're like, you know what, this isn't
for me. I want to try something new. Just curiosities,
you said, like, you know, I have a high energy,
and I can feel you got high energy as well,
So maybe it's.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Just like the same for me. What's next.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it's just like I you know, I never was
in the position to settle like I knew kind of
where I wanted to go, or I wanted to figure
out where I wanted to get hungry at twenty yeah,
you know what I mean. So I didn't feel like
I should have just found something that was safe for comfortable,
settle down, you know whatever. And just the whole college
experience that was kind of a big part of it.
I wanted to just go and explore that and see
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what it had to offer, see if it was for me.
Learned a lot of cool things, I had a lot
of cool experiences, but just found that appreciate you just
found that, you know, I was born to be an
entrepreneur straight up, like I you know, it's not that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I don't work well for people.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's just I've got a really good vision and plan
and I'm a natural leader. I think people love to,
you know, kind of take my vision and run with
it with me. I find a way to I call
myself the coach Bill Bilichick you know, let's go. I find,
I find where people's superpowers are, and I put him
in a position to succeed. So, like, you know, I've
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had guys like Travis, for instance, my new director of
business development and sales. When I first brought him on,
he was just doing this was gas by the.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Way, thank you man. That's uh, that's the bangering. That's
what I want, the hashbash. When I met you act back.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, so he so, you know, he started on as
just helping us out do pre rolls. Like he was,
you know, our pre roll guy got really good at
making the pre rolls. And I knew, you know, he
had a sales or sales background, and I knew there
was more to offer. I knew he could take better
control of his life for you know, so you can
see the potential, and I can see the potential in people.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So I said, hey, that's a true leader right there,
because you can elevate them.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Trying, you know. So I had a conversation with him.
I said, hey, you know, if you want to stay
making pre rolls, by all means, you're phenomenal guy at this,
let's let's go. But I think I think there's more.
I think you can do more. I think we can.
We can benefit each other more if we take this
new role. So he really kind of jumped off into
into the sales of things.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
A little funkiness in that strawberry. You like that. I
think it's a little funky.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I wasn't expecting. I was expecting Freu with the strive,
but that guaB is a little.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, it's a little funk to it, you know, but
you know, he he uh. We've actually only that's why
we're not in too many retail stores. We we focused
a lot on bulk. We've been open since August last year,
and we provided a lot of bulk material for a
lot of processors, other processors.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, I hope I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
So we like I mean, you guys have probably smoked
our product before and somebody else's packaging because we we've
supplied some very big names in the industry.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean, honestly, white labeling, you know, it's essentially what
you're talking about is a big part of this industry
because a lot of people who like have a lot
of money also don't really know how to grow think.
You know, a lot of times they just buy every
people who knows, and some people are just really good
at marketing, like they don't have any interest in actually
creating the product.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
They just want to sell it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what I mean, like a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So so you know, we found a way to really
make it work, and we didn't we didn't lean too
much into our brand presence until really more recently when
Trav kind of took it the bigger role. So we've we'veah,
shout out trapp Man. I mean, he's an animal. Yeah,
I appreciate you do. So, so like we went from
doing like two three, maybe four retail sales in a
month to last week we knocked out eight. We did
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eight in a week, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We doubled our month in a week and a week.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So it's like, you know, talk about immediate vertical, like yeah,
just jumping right. So you know that's where I I
pride myself. I'm being the natural leaders. I knew that
he had that in them, and it took two weeks
to figure it out, you know what I mean. So Ever, everybody,
my lead, my my director of operations, Carter, the guy
that was chiming in with the watermelon. Yeah, so same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, which they have patella coming. We got some
look out any hashmakers who want to dare outside of
just cold care and what press as well.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I love that. So qutos you trying. There's only
a few in the industry that do it.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And there's I mean, it's it's not even necessarily just
the talent, it's the raw material. If you don't have
the inputs, you're not going to get the output like periods,
so you know, working That's where we've also really put
us in a strategic position is who we work with.
We're really blessed to be a small NOE debt company.
It's you know, like I said, I'm myself, how many
plays do you have? We just talked about two other ones.
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So it's myself. Yeah, it's myself, Trav Carter, and then
we've got two other washers are our media guy who
does also help with production. And then we got another
filling guy right now who six or some people, so
hundred and ten people. Yeah, it's a very small company,
you know, like we really I want to keep our
essence very pure. I want to take what we did
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from the caregivers side of the legacy side and just
bring it over here. You know, we can scale it
and help more people. But I always use the analogy.
You know, if if we can move the way we
want to move at a five million dollar company, but
to get to a ten million dollar company, I got
to change how I do things and how I operate
and and my morals. It's not gonna happen. I'll never
take that step. I'll stay. I'll stay five five million
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forever because.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You're gonna cut. You're gonna cut your your brand's gonna
get roomed. Man, would You're gonna have to right, men,
We talk about that all the time. It really doesn't matter.
Even Dave Award winning Champ Great Grower. If we're like Dave,
go grow ten thousand plants, he wouldn't. There's no way,
no way to know what I mean, this is not possible, right,
And I guess I'm exaggerating with the Well yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But you're hitting the point though, Like once you once
you start trading passion for dollars, that's when the game's over.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's it, man, passion for dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Because you see a lot of people sell themselves out
for anything just because again I get it, because like
I mean, I have dreams like being a musician.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But I'm not gonna like to sell my soul make music.
I don't not proud of and copy people. The slow
grime man is so much worth it, you know. And
I just heard quotes some facts. I'm on us, what
is it? I forget how the quote goes.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But basically, instead of like fast money, I'm on, I'm
trying to get rich slow scheme instead of get rich
fast scheme, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And I really like that because he's like no, because.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Then it stays. It stays.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So then you just make a bunch of money, you
have eight grand and then it's like that's it now,
what you know?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And then after a year, you know, a couple of
years gone.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, so the stock market, man, if you get a
big old' spike up, it's going to be a big
old spike down. But yeah, you better learn that steady
to you know, steady the scent the whole way up.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's like that dollar cost averaging for crypto, know you
continue that. Yeah, right, the rough week.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
This week, Sorry, sorry to some of the holders, especially
the leverage traders got washed out.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But yeah, it dropped a lot of lot they I
even get to even get my staking rewards with this
bitcoin in out. Wow. Yeah, I was like, yo, where's
my money? I give him my money by crypto time.
I do love my crypto. But yeah, no, no, no,
I I couldn't agree more. I forgot. I was doing
the analogy because I'm excited about cryptos. That's what I'm
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thinking about.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
But no, it says study that steady, that steady is
sent you know, the slow the slow money. Don't trade
the passion for profit. It's not It's never worth it.
You know. Dollars are cool, like I got, I got
a daughter, you know, I got, I got a family.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Man like you know.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But you there's a way to do it right. A
lot of people think that the only way to the
top is to step on the guy below you. It's
not true. And that's what I'm trying to be. The
image of that I oh.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Shoeing on their foot is Also this industry makes it
so hard that some people are forced to be that person,
you know what I mean. And I'm not saying I'm
not calling anyone out Eitheray, some people are just assholes.
Some people are literally rocking a hard place, and like
you said, they got to eat. You know, but I
really I really appreciate that that you talk about coming
from the caregivers, I having a family, because it just
shows that your roots are like in this for not
profit alone. Right, you're trying to eat, You're trying to like,
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you know, make your brand bigger.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I mean, how long you've been in this game then?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Like total? So we I started back in like twenty
or when I was twenty years old, like twenty fifteen ish,
you know what I mean. I just turned thirty last
week or two years ago birthday. Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Welcome to the thirty club. Hey, thirty thirties baby, I
tell you what.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I welcomed it with the bank. I'll say that exciting. Yeah,
but you know I looked at it as a transition
in life. I grinded my ass off. You know, I
had twenty jobs at like twenty years old. I found
a passion in love for cannabis.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know, how did you get into cannabis? So, you know,
funny story.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Shout out to my cousin's I Grow Michigan. They were
when when you know, caregiver Weed was really starting to
make a claim for themselves. Oms Dabhouse was big down Detroit.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Like these were he did there once before. I was
like playing sack stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, these were the people. So that's that's my old
lady's cousins. And they were like very prolific in the game.
They grew amazing product, and I just I saw what
they did, and I had so much passion for what
they did and how they felt about the plant because
the first time I've ever seen or smoked rosin was
with them, you know, like they were ahead of the game,
you know what I mean. So like I saw that
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and then I'm just like, you know what, that's just
super cool, Like let me try. I literally started with
the little two lights set up in a basement, you
know what I mean, little tiny setup. Then I went
me and my brother Justice shout out ice That's where
the actual the name Ice Tea.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Came came from.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Was Okay, so that's where that's where Ice Ta came from.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh would have been like the drink Yeah no, no, no,
I know, I have the guy that pops up.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So so we started, uh you know, we we bought
a trailer. We were doing the thing on the legacy side,
helping helping up our patients and stuff and then you know,
I kind of just made the decision, like I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Do this, So what what okay?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Because we always have this, like you know, everyone knows
in the community, it's like, oh, it's medical. Oh it's
it's right, this is the problem. Right, It's always like
a battle, right. We always try to be that bridge, right,
because we love both. He's a caregiver, was patient, like
it's but now we see people talk about all the time,
what made you want to go from that transition.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Legitimacy my daughter?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, it was family. Yeah, it was so like
I was trying to keep trapping because of your fa
your daughter.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Like I was saying, you guys before the podcast started,
it's you know, I was. I was scared to even
put my face on on social media, like nobody knew who.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I was, per se because it was just such.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
A taboo gray area. I just feared for, you know,
my family, safety, my safety, just all the ramifications that
come from it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So it's a shame too, because it's people are paying
doing that and you have to be scared.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, man, I wanted legalization too after I got raided.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I did not want to go, did not want to
go back to yeah, nice because everyone's able to be
able to buy it. It's like the it's I don't know,
you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Have to fear life changes over I understand if you're
like smoking bloots, then you like hit a stop signed
like got a o.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
W y you fucked up? Like you messed up. I
can't exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I mean even if you're sleepy and you do some
ship right, that's you freaking fuck up. So it's like,
I get it. You know people can drink and drive
like you can't. Just don't get too fucked up with
saing w that's I think.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just don't be you know your limits right, respect with
the family man. I mean, like that's huge. I mean
I just had to.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Ask because a lot of people have like thoughts on that.
I just I really appreciate that because I try to
remind people. It's so easy to say when you have
your own opinion, right, so easy to be like, well,
metrics the problem when I'm a caregiver make money, or
it's easy to say when metrics like well, caregivers are
the problem because you're stressed about you're not making sales, right,
It's so easy to point fingers but to really just
accept that, like both need to exist, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, and that's what I appreciate your opinion.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's really you know.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I pay a lot of homages to people that came
before me, you know, like Captain kirk Hey, Captain Edibles.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know, all the shout.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Out you know, all these guys that like pave the
path that I walk today, you know what I mean,
Like it came from that. It came from them standing
up in the legacy side saying we're not we're not
gonna let this happen.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We're gonna do what we got to do.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
We're going to take care of our patients, and we
don't really care about the consequences.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like come and do it, you know what I mean, Like,
I'm sorry I had you just like preach brother. But
but it's real, well.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Because people forget it somethings, especially when you get to
like my sister's generation now like ten years younger than me,
that they're like, oh, my first time.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Getting high it was a eight pen. I'm like, oh,
what that's side that should say? I know it is.
That's sad you didn't try wrech black tar flaming that
rig Like what you didn't cough up a whole long
dab's on fire. Oh this is a little leftover. That's fine,
it's it definitely was. But I was just like, it's fine.
(14:28):
It never was fine. It never was fine. Why can
I not breathe? I feel it now? Yeah, now, but bridges,
we paved the way though for good long think about.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But we're you know, it's trying to bridge it. Yeah,
just like you guys are you know, that's why I
respect you guys platform so much because would you guys
stand out with you guys believe in you know, trying
to bridge that gap. We we all can except for
the very very corporate side of cannabis, which I'm still
not a fan, Like you can be in commercial cannabis
be corporate Canada.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That that that's the way to put it. Yeah, dude,
that was about to say that. I was like, I
never thought about it like that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But that's the I tend to say. Yeah, I tend
to operate.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sorry, no, you nailed it, because like I always call it, chads, right,
the people that were just like stereotype like taking advantage industry,
don't really care, don't really give a ship. But that's
a beautiful way to say it, because man, it's all
I say. It's all about your roots. I don't care
how big the tree is. If you got good roots,
you got good roots, right, I don't care if you
end up being huge as ship, as long as.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Your roots are good.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
If those roots are corrupt, it's like yourself, you know.
But that's a great way to say it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, So that's where I'm trying to I'm trying to
be over your T shirt to your T shirt equilash
my chanic. Hey listen, let's go merch drop coming next month.
Be on the lookout that just has a bridge between
Metric Michigan and let's go care. But that's it I'm
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trying to be. I'm trying to be the image, you
know what I mean. I know there's not a ton
of guys that, you know, thirty years old, young self made,
you know, really trying to get after it, that came
from that side and made the transition over. I'm trying
to show if I did it, you can't too. I
don't come from anything special.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
My mom did did her best. She raised me and
did a great job. But I didn't come from anything special.
I I worked for this. I had a passion. I
dialed it in and and I I didn't sacrifice, you know,
I sacrificed everything. There was nothing I didn't sacrifice what
I meant to say, Like I always made a statement
like outside of my very close family and my daughter,
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there's there is no it's at all costs, like I
will put everything on the line for what I believe in.
And it's it's through that tenacity that got me here,
you know what I mean. I've had some stumbles along
the road. Man, I've bought my head a few times.
I've gotten, you know, in some trouble, had the fire
I was talking about with with you know, before the cast.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Like you learned from all that, man, it gets lesson
you grow from. You grow, You grow from your mistakes
and your lessons. You have to. If you don't that,
you're just gonna go back down.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, you got to, man, It's that's what life's all about.
It's a human experience. Is a life experience. You gotta
you know, you gotta, you gotta take it in for
what it is and really be able to pick apart
the lessons, find it and just grow.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Every day is another opportunity which you got there.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
This dead smells like sunny D go through some of
your products that let's go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So you brought some samples here, so let's talk about
the rosin.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm talking into the hashrots. Know, God that strawberry go
smell the mic.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna real this one smell like so that
variety D nice and citrus really like it's it's almost
got a little cakey on the backside in my opinion,
but it is a really interesting citrus. Sunny D is
a good word.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I got an interesting sunny D smell off. First, It's
the thing I pitched sometimes, like when I trust trusted
my turps, Right, I just kind of like say what
I first pitch it. It's not always like the terpene
profiles flavor. It's more like the flavor of Yeah, I'm tasting,
you know because sometimes when it's like I bite into
like like a steak with chimmy. Sure it is a
mouthful of flavors, right, It's not like unless you smoke
(17:52):
weed like days bangering, where it's like so predominant lemonine,
you know what I mean, it's predominant one.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, it's hard to tell like that one's unique.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like I said, the one you know, Guabba, it was
definitely a little fruity, but I had a little funk
to it because they similar funky when I actually hit it.
So yeah, which when you try and Dave's trying to gab.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's my personal favorite. The grape silk too.
I brought you guys some grape silk that I think
you guys would like to I what's on that grape?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Crapy? Is it taste crapy?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Really, it smells grape, has like grape hints to it,
and I'm all, that's what I was getting.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But I was hard hurt to pull, but it was
a really nice hurt.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
If you get it, it's like really tasty.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, it's like a tangerine tangy, right, tangy can hit
or it cannot, right, because sometimes, like with fruit and
funk and fruit and gas, you get like a weird
where it doesn't taste, it just tastes weird. Sure, right,
So I think that's that's a good point. Grape can
date through that same thing.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
See, I mean like a little more smelling on the fruit,
more funky on the hint for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, definitely might go to we Actually we actually did
go to dad Wars a couple of months ago. We
admitted our Slurricane, which I brought you guys. That one's
actually like that one's not even on the market. That
was like some R and D in house stuff. We
took second place with that, and then our Blockberry took
third place in the competition, so that was drect.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Competitions are great because it gets your name out there
and you're right out there and other people try it.
Besides the rise that you have, these hash.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Proto pulled these up.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
This is the iced tea that we were talking about,
which is junior Homy which I love, that has ice.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So that's that's bubble hash infused.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Correct Yep, full flower, no trim, no shape, no, no nothing,
it's the same. Yeah, and that's some real ship though,
you know we okay, so what are these Nebula nugs?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
She didn't know, but this is something new that you
were telling me about that it just came out within
the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Just dropped like our first So that one's even so
this is like no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, fresh frash.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So that's so that's our Nebula nugs. So that's a
new line that we're rolling out. It's all completely solventst
moon Rocket's top great eight great nugs.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, two grams of premium flour with a half gram
of premium bubble hash or.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is it with rosin? With rosin? One gram rosin?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Half grammar bubble? Whoa, that's hold on, hold on, hold on.
So it's three and a half grams total weight.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's two grams of flour, a half gram of bubble
hash with a grammar hands Yeah, roll that up.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, yeah, this is like I just want to enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You want to talk about?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
This is what if you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Put on the camera and then if you want to
open any more. But it just looks like moon rocks,
Like yeah, you can put the glass part.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Up, so cut it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, there you go. If you want to open it,
you gotta you gotta cut the lid. Okay, it's got
like a rosin tar tap. Try to give it that
that experience. That's what I'm big into, man, I'm big
into selling experience. Like the old diamond boxes. You know,
you guys have seen this. I'm meant to bring one
with me. I slipped my mind downstairs.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Box you haven't seen the diamond box or Rosin boxes.
Oh yes, yes, yes I have, yeah, okay, yeah, what
they're in what they're originally the packaging? Okay yeah, yes,
So we're running low.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I actually got to make another order. We've been doing
super super dope. But you know, I'm trying to sell
an experience. I want people to really feel good about
what they're doing. You know what I mean. You don't
go and buy a Louis bag because the Louis bag
is ten times better leather.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're doing it. It's leather. It's really just like you know,
and it's the brand, and it's like the quality.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's a talking piece. It's like it's all that, you know,
the status symbol status to be more real than anything.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I had a girl coming up. It looks like moon rocks.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I didn't actually even smell it, but it looks like
moon rocks, you know, But I mean essentially what it is.
But you're adding that flare of like you're putting hash
rats and and bubble hash in it, and it's all
pretty much solventless it is.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
So what's I'm trying to say? Sorry, what is the
best way to break this up? To smoking a joint,
do you or do you recommend a bowl? What is
the bowl? For sure? Usually?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we're actually we're rolling out Nebula Nuggs as a
whole brand. Like I started with just that product, and
that's why I said, it's taken me bout a year
of r indeed to really get that cracked. But we're
starting with that. We're going to do a real nice
nose on. It's nice too, man, Yeah, thank.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You appreciate that. Damn.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, we're gonna do uh, we're gonna done of of
donuts with those, and so like.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Nebula nug donuts, so more hash rosin like Dad with rosin?
Yeah what yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
What Like these boys is probably gonna be testing that
like fifty five sixty percent.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Makes it left off?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you off because you're basically you're basically mixing rosin
and doubble hash like immaculate style.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So it's all mixed and then you're gonna throw ros
in the middle. Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, So so the flower is gonna be I ask
you three different times like brain, sure carry carry the
two dropped the warm nut that's not mathn Yeah no,
it's crazy. Well I'm starting to drool only so that's
what again, I'm selling an experience. I under like it's
like a double baked potato, Like why we gotta bake it?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's already big double.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
That's better than frying at once fried twice.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I can't argue that podcast over Educate and pay you guys.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But but for real, you know, like that's what I
really am trying to lean into is is like everybody's
got cool products, and like the question why why us?
Why why should you stop us intead anybody else? Because
we're not just trying to sell a product. We're trying
to sell an experience, you know what I mean, Like
we really want people to feel something when they're when
they're purchasing this product. I had a girl come up
to us at at the Blazon Barbecue Shot Michigan, Matt
(23:37):
you know, he uh, We're waiting in line and she
saw me and the crew with our shirts on, and
she like literally broke her neck, did a double tap,
come back and and run and talked to her. She's like,
oh my god, oh my god. Those boxes. She's like
I literally felt like I was being proposed to, you
know what I mean, Like like the product wasn't even
the focal point of the conversation. She still was like, yeah,
hell yeah, fire ass product.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
But they're thinking it was a good thing, and he was.
She wasn't like I thought I was getting.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Sorry sorry, you know, but do you want me to
get you on?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'm saying actively out of context, Dave.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, no, So it was super cool listening audio, it
was it was cool to see just that kind of interaction.
That's that's the interaction I'm looking for, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh absolutely, that's right off the packaging, Like that's a
first statement symbol. When someone sees it, it's like, dammit,
she fell right in love with that, like the product,
and you should probably have a lifetime customer now because
of that one experience that you're getting.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, it's like you know, like, I mean, you bring
a valid point to this industry. It's not just about
like do I did it get me high? Because yeah,
like you're going to dispoa. It's all gonna get you high.
And then is it quality?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now we have that, now you have the brand. Yeah,
there's because that is that layer because like eventually there's
a bunch of good stuff too and moderate stuff too,
so you start having to stand out by values and
branding and like unique ideas like Nebula Nubs Nubs.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You need to be able to separate. You need to
be able to separate your from the other. And I
think that's what you do. You're trying, you're trying to
do and it looks like you're succeeding pretty well since
you just launched within the last year, which I'm excited
about because it's like you're bringing more to the table.
You're bringing more. You're for the education, you're for pushing.
I even saw you at the Capitol, like you're out there, man,
and I just respect that from you. And though speaking
(25:18):
of the Capital, we might as well bring it up.
Y'all were both there.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, so that's all. That was wild.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're look alike too. That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
That was crazy. I know, we talked about it on
Saturday that you're watching, said we had a doppel gang.
I didn't know you was so cool. You had a
stunt double.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
What I went there? You know, he shout out. He
was like, I got stuck.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I couldn't get out of some But yeah, man, I
mean scary stuff, scary times.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's it was, uh, it was actually did I said it?
I knew and I was like, people are gonna think
he's me. I had I hit. A couple of other
people even come up and they're like, oh yeah. I
was like, oh, that's actually matter. That's my mother, buddy,
that's all. That's super awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Would you just have the variety?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, see that was that was.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Another interesting with gas not funny enough. The reason why
it's called Variety D. It was the girl that we
worked with. They planted four rows of like like tester strange, right,
so when it was all chopped, it was all harvested
in batches. But they were like different females and stuff,
so it was like a bunch of different funk in
each variety. So I had a Variety D in a
Variety B.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And like they are very.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Interesting because you almost get like, like I said it,
I don't know how it's like a little citrus, but
then you get that little gas.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Nose on the back end. It's like, yeah, it's an
interesting mix. I don't mind it. Yeah, it's an interesting mix.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I'll take that one.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You take the Sometimes I like when I'm like I'm
taking that one. Damn. You guys are like listen plenty
more I got you guys. Yeah, but no, no, no,
you're about no. I was gonna say what you said?
This was your original product?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Were you making this back and like three days or
you just this was in your head and you're like,
I'm eventually gonna make it so fucking solvingless.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You're gonna get so high.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So crazy crazy part of the origin story, you know,
like when I came over, I was a bh O guy,
like I was a bh O processor for for many
years before. That's that's how I blew myself up, you know,
like I was a BHO guy. I didn't do I've
never had touched.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sorry, did we talk about the blow up? And I
we talked off about it there?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, Well I feel like everyone else is like, oh yeah, yeah,
bring it up.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And I was like, should I say wait wait wait
honest reaction of everyone else listening the funk? What?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So I blew myself up, That's not something you say casually.
I went and got some ice cream. That's got some
ice cream. That's cool blowing yourself up.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
They used to make some news.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
There's another Tuesday, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So I guess going up you crazy, like, hey, listen,
I promise you if I if I wrote it down
on paper, no one believe. Let's talk so so so
Actually four twenty twenty twenty one, I was in a
rush to get out of work, to go and have
some fun, enjoyed the festivities.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So we had a batch that we're cooking down. My
partner at the time thought it would be a great
idea to use a pot of hot water to quit
boil de buttane, and I said, oh yeah, sure, Why not, Well,
the water was way too hot. I put the jar
in there. It flash boiled over. So now we have
copious amounts of gashes buttane filling the rumor in. We're
(28:28):
in a nineteen eighties trailer in a trailer park. Cool
safety first, So there was a gas stove. There was
a gas stove in the kitchen. Pilot light was still lit.
Did not even think of it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Easy, Yeah, of course it's in there, the little tiny dude.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So I promise you it is the slowest slash, longest
seven seconds of my life. I got security camera footage
of it happening. I picked the jar up out of
the bucket of hot water. I literally see the trail
of plume of smoke go.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
To the stove.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I watch it ignite in real time, like this.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Is I mean, you're watching we ask chemicals, You're watching
the chemical reaction, but you're watching a chemical reaction going oh.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
My fucking chrysis.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Talk about ever, Oh ship dude, talk about an old
ship moment. So I'm literally holding this jar of but
tane liquid mutine is now on fire, and I had
to make the decision what do I do If I
dropped this jar, It's a it's a bomb. I'm literally
dropping a jar of liquid on fire but tane.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
In my extent, it would explode. It would explode awesome.
So I'm like, I literally don't know what I'm doing.
What to do.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I'm holding a jar of I'm shaking right about.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm holding the fire coming and you're holding in explosive
essential co. Yeah what do I do? Little little little gas? Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So so I end up I end up saying I
can't you know, I'm it's literally melting my hand. I
end up dropping it. Exactly what I thought would happen happened.
It exploded, went fight. I mean, you know eight foot
ceilings there was fired from the Florida. Yeah, you're in
a trailer you're not.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I mean even in a you're talking about extra two
feet dude.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So and and my dumb ass is like, okay, now
I'm I'm in my kitchen.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
There's an L shape and this is just it would
have ad just me probably.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You know all right, you did say that.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Sorry, there's just so much happening in my brains, like
so much the process.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Okay, it's crazy. So look at each other like what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Like, fuck, So I got the.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I got the cabinet behind me. I can't go backwards.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I kicked the jar. The door is directly in front
of me.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I kicked the jar out the door to like like
get the fire out of here, not thinking that's the door.
I got to run out if this bitch is on fire.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So I literally kicked an eight foot wall.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Of fire from me to the door. I have to
run out of as my partner's outside, like get the
fuck out of the house.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I had to run through the fire.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
After my partner got out, he was he was like
on the other side, he was already what you're adding
more oxygen to a flame?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Right, So he opened the door. I learned that the
wrong way. We learned that in the.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Ground opened the door. Yeah, the little is open as
you can. Crazy anyway, So now oxygen.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So now it's like and I's crazy, and I'm just
like literally like I have to run through this to
get out of this house otherwise I might burn alive.
So I ran out. I jumped.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It was literally like a movie.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I remember jumping over the railing. It was a rainy
day that day. I landed in a puddle of water
and the skin on my arm was literally melting off,
like literally melting off my skin off off my body.
It was the most horrific pain I have ever experienced.
There's nothing comparable. Well, slam my nuts in a car
door twelve times before I do that again, like twelve,
(31:35):
I don't know number. It's a good round number thirteen
you seen a door knob door, But like two or three,
I'd be done.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
One or two. I think I'd be like, I went,
you know, so, yeah, so I learned it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Sorry man, Yeah, Well and that's you know more, it's
probably like I mean, honestly, now I totally get why
you went to Solventless and why you went to one
to go legit because just like why.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, I'm risking my life. If I'm risking my freedom,
I'm risking my family's future. Like it was just too much.
And don't get me wrong, like, yeah, fast money was cool.
I was young, kid, like making a ton of money.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You're not a cat.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You don't got nine lines, brother, you got lucky once.
That's intense, man. Yeah, you know the players in my life,
in my house, but I wasn't there, you know what
I mean, Like they're still scary. Damn, that's I can't
even imagine witnessing the chemical reaction the way you're I
can see your eyes. I don't know if you're you
can see it if you're audio, but go on YouTube.
(32:31):
You can see in his eyes he can see he's
picturing it happening. And I've been there, like I have.
You know when you have a moment that's so surreal. Yeah,
yeah it was. It was a little way you talked
about your guns exactly same. It was a thirteen second video.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
In my mind that was an hour long situation literally
like at times crazy to look at the footage. I've
only looked at it a few times since it happened.
Like I said, imagine you're triggering, man, I do. I'm shaking.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm shaking thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We sit here and no, it's like lightning the mood
because it but it is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It was scary then, but it's a learning lesson, like we.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Have such a crazy thing that that's how the market
had to be just to make some concentrates.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, because I couldn't go, I couldn't go and get
a least warehouse space and actually do it right. I
had to be secretive in a trailer park like I
had to be.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Even if you did, it's still rispect still back then,
if you had a windows shut like you know, I
don't know, I knew a guy that do it in
an apartment building.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It's not even just like you know.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's that's that's scary, that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, it's just it's wild to me that because I
just can't believe.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I mean, thankfully you're alive, man. Yeah, absolutely, I believe
in divine an invention man.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
And that's kind of you know again, it just kind
of was a reaffirmation, like I gotta stop being stupid,
I gotta stop thinking for just me, like I got
people that count on me and depend on me, And
that's when I kind of really started to take the
leadership role and try to find people that we could
work together. We share the same values and views. How
can we take this and do what we love to
(33:58):
do for so long on the legal side, Let's legitimize ourselves,
you know what I mean. And it was it was
a scary time. I mean, the market was already on
a down train last year when I got in, Like
it was not a great time for most people to
start a cannabis company.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Not an ission yet you're talking like over saturated market. Yeah,
still still like that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Like I always say, now you need all three before.
You just need just before. You just need to be
in this game to make money.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like the first year or two, you.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Know, you can at a wall to see what stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, like two thousand miles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Like now, it's like if you don't grow amazing weed,
you don't have good braining and good morals. It's like
you're gonna have You're gonna have a time. It's just
gonna be uphill battle, uphill battle.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You already have so many hurdles.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We already have so many good companies that care from
came from caregiver sides or have good morals, not just
one of you know, there's both in this state. So
you're competing with like a good market, you know. So
I think it stands out here, you know, so if
you're able to make it here, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I was talking about that, you know, and like we
you know, talk about.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
This bill, and everyone's really nervous, you know, and I
am understand. But it's like more or less like nerve
wracking for the ones who have been ripped off, for
the ones who are already nerve already, you know, So
it's just adding more stress their lives, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, and it is. It's a scary time.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Michigan cannabis is already at bottom dollar margins, like people
were skimming by, people were taking out personal loans to
pay their employees because they just the cannabis business wasn't
paying for it anymore, you know. And then you take
that and then on top of it, slap twenty four
Like it's just why it does for.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Something that doesn't even directly just it's not like it's
like causing effect. The marketing can cause it. So that's
why don't underst that's.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
How we all need to come together.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Shout out, M I C I A. We actually just joined,
you know, with with them this past and.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Hearing a lot of people are exotic manner announced they are,
but I mean what they did with that protest was
really powerful, pulling both sides together, and like that's a
big thing to be anyone who can pull.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Both sides together out there. Yeah, we want to move
on to.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Talk a little bit more about what they're doing. Try
to get them on the pod. Hopefully we'll see hopefully
you're listening.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
They're doing good. I mean they did. They filed the
lawsuit the day that the governors said hours yeah so yeah, no,
so shout out to them. I see, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Rob and standing there till two in the morning, just
making sure our voices are heard. Like no, she that's
a great organization. I'm glad to be a part of
it and help. Thank you. I you know, I'm glad
to be a part of it. And and same thing
with you guys, like all all of these these platforms
and these programs, like we're not doing this for personal
fame or game. We're doing this because we have a
passion for the industry and the plant and we just
(36:25):
want to see everybody win. We want to see everybody
continue to do what they do.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, that's it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I mean, I just watched him go through PTSD at
the time of starting the podcast. I'm like, bro, if
we can change one person's life, that'd be dope. And
then then you change one person's life and you get hooked,
you know.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I mean, I want to inspire my Yeah, how can I.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And then they advocate d you can inspire. All that
kind of came just naturally, you know what I mean.
And we want to keep doing more.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
But sometimes just sussist us too.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's just like you said, you're just a family off.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So that's why I think it's so important to have
conversations like this to get to know who you're supporting,
because some people will just be like, hey, well, because
I'll go again, not knocking half the market, but more
than fifty percent of this market doesn't even.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Care, like what's the cheapest highest tea, you know, and
it's such a shame. That's.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Education is so key to keeping the right people in
this market, because unless you don't educate them about who
to buy from, you're gonna just do that over and over,
just buy do that, and then the wrong people are
gonna get by ahead.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So education is key to survival in this market.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
We're huge with that. We do.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
We really prioritize our veent.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean you spotsor us so I believe so as
it does because they support us and therefore you support advocations.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
We talk, But I don't think any of our partners
are like, hey, our brand, our.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Morals are are similar to these advocates better morals, But
we don't got time to have a whole podcasts that
we support them, so they do.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's kind of more or less how we look.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
At it because because that's how that's how it's a
you know, we're just trying to have conversations and put
good brands out there. And and like I said, people
like M I c A doing anyone doing anything in
this market making change and doing some ship we want to.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, No, it's less to have first smoke of the
day on like we're just trying to have anyone has
a discussion and an opinion on this industry.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
You know, it comes down the avenue like it really does.
Like if people don't know and people aren't screaming and
fighting for this stuff. Nobody knows, even myself, Like it
wasn't until kind of more recently when my brother, my
brother Cody kind of incited that in me. He got
wrapped up with with a pretty nasty charge in West
Virginia for just trying to help people.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Like he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
He was West Virginia, you know what I mean, Like
he was not doing anything crazy. He was literally trying
to help people people with cancer. Provide him with r
S O. I mean remember when I mean he didn't,
uh he was. He was in there for a few years.
Like it's it's it's a scary.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Thing and so wrong, you know, right, so people when
half the nation's making tax revenue.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, but you're putting these people next to like real
messed up people, people who've killed people, and you're like
this guy grew some weed.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
What the hell is you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Like, come on, man, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
To scare people's medical health and stuff, so yo, come on.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Like yeah, okay, fine, if you're being like a straight
dope boy like selling selling other ship with it, okay, fine,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But if you're trying to help people, what do you
get it you're moving bows and you got you're selling
drugs and you're doing illegal ship. I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
There's people out there that like weed gets associated the
bad name, but weed can help, you know. That's like
that's the most messed up thing is like somehow we're
able to be like, yeah, big pharmo helps people, but
other people kills right, It even kills more people than weed.
But somehow they hyper focus on the negative parts of weed,
and it's like, yeah, but there's so much you can
do to help them. That's why it's like I even
hate that we have to deal with this bill because
(39:27):
the day we should.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Be fighting the fact that it's trying to.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Go to schedule three and not undischeduled, we have bigger
things to fight.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Now. We got to emit the high hell, and.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Now we got to folks right now, we're we gotta
refocus on this, you know, and like I feels like,
you know, just distraction from the government.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
There's so much I can get into on this systematic,
heated man.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
You know what we got, like, we got real That's
why I'm glad to see you're uh with the m
I C I promote when doing the advocacy there because
it is huge, Like without us all coming together, I
don't think when we all make noise and you're you're
you're showing that so way to say, I think we're
actually gonna They had to reschedule the lobby day, but
I think it's not gonna be a loust for going
down to the Capitol of tomorrow to speak with our
(40:07):
local senators. So I should be speaking with with mister
Cherry and mister Singh tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
So you know, I love that because I got to
talk to Miami and she voted yes to pass it. Yeah,
I think it was a girl with who mine was,
so I have to figure that out. But it's ridiculous.
I can still can't believe people that, But I mean
it makes sense. They probably got pad for either big
farm and alcohol to that question, you know what I'm saying,
Like they pushed it through, but not for the bill. Man.
I want to because that's gonna be a huge topic.
(40:34):
We'll probably end up coming back to it too. But
I want to dive into some of your strains. Do
you have like specific strains that you always have in rotation?
And then I also want to get into like where
can our listeners find your product, because we've had people
hit us up. I want to know, they want to know, Yeah,
where can we get yourself first? Let's go with that.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Actually yeah, So so we're actually, like I said, we're
kind of brand new to the retail front. We've only
been doing sales for the last couple of weeks really
like full full speed.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
We were trickling in It's it's a lot. I'm a
I'm a you know, sole operator. I I got great
guys that helped me out, great team, but I got
to wear a lot of hats. So the sales one
wasn't necessarily a big hat I was wearing. I was
doing more the focusing on the wholesale side. So like
we've we've had trickle sales since about August of last
year September, but we've really started hitting the market this
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this last couple of weeks. So we're in endo locations
in Ipsey and Adrian. We are in high level locations
in Vassar, Omar in Bay City. We're an elite in
Bay City and uh Fassar I believe, or Mount Morris
where else. We are in some provisions down in Decatur.
(41:41):
We were in No Boat over on the West Side.
It's been a while. I'm not sure if they still
have our stuff in there, but you know, we're just
we're getting out there. We're getting we're getting greaty sigh.
Society and Davison they're actually are the our you know,
premier uh dispensary we're with, that's actually where we rolled
out our Nebula NAKs. So if you guys are trying
to go get some Society and Davison tell you yeah, yeah,
(42:03):
so they're there where we're releasing the Nebula nuggs and
testing them ount so, you know, really excited for that.
But yeah, man, we're we're just trying to get out there.
We're finally starting to make a name for ours.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
What was your second question? Already forgot?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
What was the strange you have like rot like Dave
had another one I remember.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Have like Staples like, hey, we're gonna be keeping this
one by. It all depends on who you're getting your
product from.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah. So so we've we've done a lot of you know,
white labeling with people. We do a lot of splits.
So sometimes we'll do we'll take a split off of
the pre rolls we make for them and we'll sell
them under under our branding with with you know, shoutouts
to them.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
So we've done that a few times.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
We've sourced product a few times of farmers that I'm
really like preferential for. Like I said, I I value
partnerships more than a cash on cast transaction. Like we
haven't purchased a lot of product.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That's that's long because just making because I want to
study off a deal both be invested, Like I want
you to feel good about giving me the material, and
I want regular money until you keep eating eating a
big meal, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
So so that's been super cool to work with like
really strategic partners who are growing the stuff that we want,
you know what I mean. And we're actually in the
process of closing on an indoor facility so that way
we can control more of our inputs. So we should
be seeing some some exquisite exotics here real vertically yeah. Process. Yeah,
(43:22):
So I don't have a tremendous interest in retail per
se right now, not to say that that can't change.
We work really good or really well with with a couple.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I should rephrase, you'll be single, you could be single
sources what I should have said.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Definitely single source. Yeah, yeah, I mean we'll be most
we'll be mostly vertical. We're you know, we'll be controlling
our inputs, controlling our rises because right now, you know,
we're kind of at the mercy of.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Your product source.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, source, you know, as an extractor, that's you know,
something I don't know if we've necessarily talked about too much,
and I think we brought it up here and there,
but they can that be like a real stressor at times,
like owning a company, when you're like, well I need
this much product, I can't get it.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
So it's a good quality right now? The volume was garbage.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
The volume is not the issue, as you know, crazy market,
I've got fifty sixty to seventy one hundred thousand pounds
committed if I want it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Like that's a good better way to say. So is
that a stressor too?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
When you can't find quality out there, like when you're
not don't have your own control.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
That does make sense.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, so it's it's definitely I wouldn't necessarily say stressor,
but it's definitely an interesting variable because you know, we
we don't get to if a farm's washing or running
something that we love that washes crazy, you know, checks
all the boxes a unicorn like our chop cookies from
from high level, you know, crazy crazy strain Like when
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you got stuff like that and then for whatever reason
the farm shuts down or they stop growing it and
you lose access to that. It's like you could really
build the following on just one strain, you know what
I mean. And if you take that out, that's tough.
That's super tough. Yeah right, it's like it's like that's
a staple.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Imagine day with no bang ring, you know what I mean,
it's a it's a weird day. So so being able to control,
being able to control those inputs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
So that's where we're someone to stop hearing about it.
When I had that bang ring, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
You know, I got some I got some classics that
I want to bring back. You know. Sunset Shubert, that's
my that's my queen. That is my queen forever.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, he's still he has one too, You.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Have a sunset.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's funny that it's a cut that he found like
from a seed, like a seed, and he's so good,
like it cracks me up because like he just found it,
one of it. Yeah, some chick just found his X
found it and was like, hey you want this? He like, yeah,
I guess, and to be one of my favorite strains.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
I haven't had, like hell seeds. I haven't had true
sunset suber since like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, like the
true real deal.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Probably he's had it for a while. Like I'll smell
that bag downstairs when they all still have it. Yeah,
Like I mean, is it growing the genetic?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
You just have the genetic?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I mean I have to play. Yeah, I mean, look
at him.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
He wants that cut, brother, let's go.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Like I do. It's very gassy and funky.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
You know, it's such a unique interesting I lose the
color on her, like when she's growing, Like the color
is really what sold me. I've got a picture actually,
my boy ice when we started to grow. He's holding
up a gnarly ass bud with arizona can behind it.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
You can't see the arizona it is.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
It is a gnarly, juicy, like beautiful purple Like yeah,
it's just it's that's my that's my holy grail, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
It's so funny because it's just that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
You're like the only person I've heard it's actually had
the real ship. I've had a bunch of shirt back
crosses and like you know, shirt taking like a bunch
of shirp ship. But it's not sunt he just got
it from a bag coming. So long as they didn't lie, Yeah,
I guess that's the big I'll tell you that, I
can tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
To do a repeat and I'll see if if they's
the real deal or not. With the story, I mean
the runts I have, I know it's like a legit cut.
That one that's squad tastes like yeah, well I think it.
I think that's su tastes like sunset. But again I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I mean it does give that sure be funky even
though even what's that new sherb that popped up everywhere
sub cake or sure sure.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Cream pie that was everywhere for a minute. It is good.
It grows, it grows nice. I only grow it once
in a while.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Because that's why I was, that's what boxes that's I'm saying,
you love it.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I was like, yeah, that's one of his just one
he has just for that's so crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I mean, like I've heard a lot of people say like,
oh yeah, I like sure, but.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I haven't really met so sure, like one of your
all time favorites. I could see it the way you
lit up. I can actually see your Yeah, like you
actually got I'm like, oh god, oh god.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
You want to give me excited something for sure? Yeah,
I get it though, that's something.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I mean I have strings like that, Like you bring
some headband or super silver haze around me.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
I'm like, there's something. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
We were talking about that on Saturday, Like, what's the
old school ship?
Speaker 1 (48:03):
You know, it's a special it's not even old, it's
just right hits me. It's on set SHIRV shirt beside Sherbert,
What is your second? See that's a tough I guess.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
So this again takes me back. It's more of like
a nostalgic thing more so than the strain itself. So
we got a purple punch that came from Okay, it
came from I Grow Michigan. Shout out to my cousins.
That got me started. Funny story. They didn't mean to
give it to me. That was one of that was
one of their grails that they did not mean to
give up.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
They so that cup got thrown into the mix, and yeah, dude,
we grew it out. Like the story I have on this,
It was in the exact same grow as that Sunset shrbet.
When we grew that, it was the only plant. It
was right in the front. As soon as you open
the doors, the first plane in there. Like the craziest
ship happened. We come in one day, like the night before,
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plants green, like super green, like whatever whatever. Almost overnight,
this shit turns pitch purple and frosty.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Is all hell like. It aged like two weeks in
a day.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
And I'm like, dude, some we gobbling came in last
night and swapped these plants out due it was crazy,
and so the turf on it many a really long time.
Maybe I was gonna time work right. I woke up
two weeks later, so so we harvested it right, and
like when we first harvested it. I don't know if
(49:30):
you know, like true purple punch, but it's like the
way I described the turp is almost like wine. It's
like a wine. No, it's like an aged grape, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I had it, but I only had it here and there.
I don't know if it really had the right one
because when you say that, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
It's like really, it's the only word I can find
to describe. It's really whiny. So we aged it for
six months and like really nice proper cure, you know
what I mean, and cracked that thing, dude, like like
I'm getting chills thinking about it, Like it was it
was so sound, so crazy. I was so sad we
only had one plan, like it was only like six
ounces or something whatever, Like I held on to this ship.
(50:06):
I think I was still smoking it a year later,
like obviously nowhere near is good a year after, but
like still smoking on it because it was that was
my second for sure, purple punch. Such a load, such
a low like tester too, like sixteen percent, seventeen percent.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's I said.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
It's not always about classic strains, because for me, GMO
is not even that, not even that old of a strain.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
But I love it. You. I will die by that.
I will die on that hill.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Dmo is King's a crazy washer. Love it, silly washer,
really yeah, silly everything.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Super booth snilly washer.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Love me some super booth yeah, yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
A big chop train.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
But you answer the question if everyone else gonna answer
a question, I mean, if if you can't just answer,
I love we.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Bangering.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Now. If I a strain that I grew that I miss,
the guy I got lost into my raid was my
blood rack. Man, it was by TGA subcool. Yeah, so
this strain legit turned like legit purple naturally, like didn't
drop the tent. It all purple strains smoked good to
my favorite favorite bud. And then after the cops raided
(51:11):
and chopped on my plants, I never got to see it,
and I've never found it again. I've never seen it. Yeah,
never seen seeds again. I've never anything. That's a good point.
I remember blood record was one I had. I had
Acus Spades, I had the original Death Star, and I
had a Durbin Poison cut that was literally was like
purple and sometimes Durbin Poison. I don't think I've ever
(51:33):
actually had the rind was a legit cut from somebody
that I got, and those were legit cuts too, like
he actually got the Ohio cut of death Star. I
remember that.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Because I got some Ohio bubblem death Star and Sour
diesel too are like the classic strains that I always
love because sour D's just has that, but like because
of his specific one I that's where I had.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
It really was that death Star. I was like, what
is this? I even like it.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Because it got me so high at first. That's another thing,
like back to the quiet, I mean, dude, because that's
what sucks that But that's literally how that's that's literally
what it is with cannabis strains.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
I think about it. Through prohibition, we've strains hybernization, but
think about many trains have been lost to raids. Think
about how many strains have been muddled down, dude, all
the cross breeding and everything, like certain, yeah, thank you hibernation.
What did you say, hybrid sleep for winter? Let's go hybernation, Celsius, buddy.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
Hybridization, if you don't know, is the act of like
people causing breeding for so long that you kind of
lost those true India Trusativa grown based off how they
were grown in areas.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Right now you have.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Hybrid hybridization, hyber He's like, he's like, these.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Plans be sleeping. Yeah, you haven't started flowering them. Shut up, dude,
shut the hell. I'm turning off your mic I have
the controllers but no.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
But I mean, hey man, And also it's funny. I
wanted to ask this and I keep never getting this.
Why Excool Extractions? Why the name so Diamond?
Speaker 3 (53:10):
To be honest, dude, Like we're we're sitting there when
we when we're thinking about starting the company.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
I'm just curious, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, yeah, so when we're thinking about starting the company. Actually,
light Lighting Up Group is is who I started with.
So I'm the sole owner.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
When we first started lighting Up Cannabis, go out in Flint, Flushing,
and well they just moved so it's Flint, uh yeah
lighting Up Yeah yeah, and and they just yeah their
veterano Yeah yeah. I went there like great guys. So
so we started with them. They they had a line
of infused pre rolls out called Sluggers Lightening Up Sluggers,
(53:46):
and they wanted to work like really close with the
processor to make this dream come to fruition.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
So that's when I came into the mix. We started talking.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
We decided to you know, do this thing together, and
they kind of decided.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
Retail was more of their land.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
They weren't, you know, all in with the processing side.
Of things. It's it's a tough business. You gotta have
the passion for it. So they were just way moreason.
They were locked in on retail. So so we took
it over. But to start, you know, the company we're talking,
we're just sitting there just like tossing stuff around. And
I just have always had this vision like like I
(54:19):
want to go to work every day like in a
in a nice ass suit because I want to, not
because I have to. Like I've always had this vision
of like not.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Because I dude, you got some good clothes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
I gotta compile all these clothes to get sticky not.
I love quotes.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Man, It's how I tell the story, you know.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
So me, dude, I that's why you're speaking pilowcheck you know,
I know, I know canon ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, right, So like that's.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
How I tell my story. But you know, so we're
just like thinking, like what is an upper echelon? What
what you know? What would encompass that? And I'm just
saying I'm like, you know, it's exquisite, Like I come
from food to.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Same thing, Like it's exquisite, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (55:03):
And That's why, like I think fine dining when I
think exquisite, So I assume find your things diamonds, enjoy
the finer side of life. You know, it's quality ros
And like you said, your story is some good quality stuff.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
You know, you take pride in your team, uncompromise quality. Man,
that's undized quality.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
I dig that. Yeah, I dig that.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
So that's a great way. I figured as much because
I got diamond. I just figured like valuable sense of great.
But it's cool to hear the hear the actual story.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
That super funny, super funny story about the diamond logo.
So we went to another uh the actually the m
CP event. Shout out, shout out Harry Barash and the
m CP crew. We we went, We went to the event.
We went and they followed me back dinner, just followed
me like yesterday, he's listening as you got snapped.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Uh so that's my daughter.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
You know, I do the same thing though, I know.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
So.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
So we ended up going to Parlay in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Nice sports sports.
Speaker 3 (56:08):
I actually saw Calvin Johnson going and getting dinner. That
was super cool.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
How is that place? I want to really good food?
Speaker 3 (56:13):
A little expensive?
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Prest is that who.
Speaker 3 (56:16):
Is this spot.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, it's super cool. We were there
a couple of weeks ago, you know, for the for
the Lions game.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
Dude, that place was electric. It was so fun. When
they scored a touchdown, they literally gave out Hennessy shots
to everybody. Free Hennessy shots to everybody. Swear swear. We're
in there.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
We're literally like a lot. Yeah, we're taking the cas.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
So we're sitting there getting dinner. I owned a bar
and also owned a camp service that just worked by
like just saying it's actually smarter. We're sitting there getting dinner,
We're wearing the diamond shirts and uh a lady walks spy.
She sees our diamond shirts and she's like, she's.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Like, oh, what do you what do you boys? Do
you guys.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
On the diamond business? I was like, not the ones
you wear.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
She loved that.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
We gave her some free product. It was super cool.
But but yeah, you know, it's just like just appealing
to that finer side of things, you know what I mean,
just really kind of taking that upper echelon uncompromised quality.
We really wanted to focus in on on patients over profits.
That's really like, that's literally our credo is making sure
that we're providing a quality product at a quality price
(57:24):
and and really getting out there. And and I think,
you know, the brand it ensembles that, it resembles that
it's really a step above what I think is is
norm for the industry, you know what I mean. And
that's where we come in with the iced T brand, Like,
the iced T brand is my homaja to the caregiver side,
the legacy side, what what made me? What I came from?
You know, that's more like budget centric, value centric. It's
(57:47):
still again it's full flower, premium, awesome joint.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Ye that burns smoke smooth, yeah yeah, very hashy.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
We use bubble hash.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah that's all I tasted with ash. Yeah yeah, which
is nice. I prefer.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
That's why if you go back on this tape, was
very hash yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
So uh so that you know, that's kind of where
where the exquisite love.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
That we just judged it infused pretty It was like
hashes in here and it was like sprinkled Keif it's
like no, there's actually hash, you can taste bubble hash
has a taste. Yeah, And if you're gonna say it
doesn't fuck you.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
No, you lose.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
That dong gang dude.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
A bubble hash for real has a specific taste. It's
like you lose like bubble, you.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
Lose some of the planning. You wash it out, you
know what I mean, Like you're you're getting more pure
product when you have Keif there's a lot of plant particulate,
it's micro particularly, I.
Speaker 1 (58:42):
Mean you actually taste.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Some people just say, say infuse and they put a
little bit just to put it.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Oh no, we throw it in there, dude. We do
twenty twenty five percent ratios depending on what the client
needs and where we are. So it's it's not no
slight stuff, it's uh juicy like anything.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah yeah, no, I try your slur kid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (59:00):
So that's that's the second place at the at these
comp I know.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, judge judge straints. Yeah. It was super cool. It
was it was a cool event. That was actually our
very first competition we've ever entered. Yeah, we kicked that.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
With him in Spain, Yeah, Barcelona or Spain.
Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah, and we judged a full outcome. Shout out to
Fang and shout out that whole team, Big Cloud, shout
out Squad Squad, Yeah and that's the thing, Like the thing,
that's what I'm saying, Like, I just love this whole community,
I really and I think they bring different things to
every market. Everyone has their own things, you know, And
that's why I really find it interesting whenever we find
someone who came from one side to the other, Like
(59:39):
why you know, because you know, obviously, when you come
in with a business, it's because well, you're trying to
make money and like you know, and you love weed.
But being in that long usually there's some passion that
drives you.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
If I did love what I do, some of the
some of the hardships that I face on the way up, Yeah, exactly, man,
you know, like I I truly love what I do.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
Because yourself made.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
And that's why I asked, because some of these people
you come in with money, you make more money.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
It's like, well, yeah, you had money in the beginning,
Like duh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
When you're self making, it's like you got to believe
in that shit before you see it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Oh boot traps. I led my bank account the damn
near zero opening up exquisite like literally like where you are.
That was one of the most stressful times of my
of my life, was starting this company because I did
a bootstrap that I had to. You know, I believe
very firmly, and don't get me wrong, I'm all about leveraging,
you know, using each other's assets. But I always firmly
believed in if I had to take a check from somebody,
(01:00:29):
that means I have to answer to somebody, and it's
gonna eventually cause me to compromise on my morals because
I have to. I'm indebted to do that, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
If I've never had that's a good point, man, you
know interesting because like, no matter what, you're never gonna
lie with a.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Right. And it's like not to say that my ways
better or or anything like that. It's just it's this
is the way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I want to move.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
This is the way I view my life and what
I think. And I don't compromise, you know, uncompromise quality
and my product, my life, everything that I do. I
I want to make sure that I'm living the human
experience of the fullest. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
We're here, We're here for a reason, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Everything I'm telling you, Man, I'm about to like when
I just need to mom, about to call you try
and be like yo, man, I'm having to give me
some quotes.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Brot me my lines always over making memes Man and Trent.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
And you know, and no, I appreciate that because we
need that outlook of life because I mean especial when
you have downadays, you got to remind.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yourself because it's tough, you know what I mean. So
that's why I said it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I mean the self made seeing zero bank count those
that's not easy to go back on him, going from
you know, the guns in his face to now talking
about we publicly like you talk about a few years
to do this.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Man, it was coaching him to get to come.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
It's not easy to put your name on and that's
the reason why we do the podcast because like some
people are scared to put their name on the faces,
but they have rights and they're like, yo.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
We don't. We're gonna do it. So you know, like,
I just appreciate three hundred episodes, that's awesome. Those are
just our Wednesday drops. That's not including our lives or
anything like that. I only count the episodes that we
dropped to three hundred, So everyone listening, we have so much.
Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Imagine how many people you guys have touched over three
hundred episodes. How many lives have changed?
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
That's that's awesome, you know what I mean? Yeah, well, listen,
it's it's one.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
It's worth it. We've had people comment and tell this stuff,
and we'll probably do something for that. What keeps it going? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Like, I mean, obviously the money helps, but it's not
enough money to quit our jobs.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
The money right now, we're still doing it jobs. As
you see, I'm in my day job clothing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
But respect that's that's even more respectful because you guys
are so committed. You're willing to do the daily grind
and come here and do this too, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Like that, that's what we're showing you. It's all about
the passionate in this industry.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
We don't meet many.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
People who aren't passionate, right you know, and if you do,
you're like, well, you're in it. You know, it's usually
that it's just well that's ego or money or something.
That's why we appreciate parting with people like you have
good morals, you know everything else you know, things can change,
you can people can We talk about this all the time,
you know exactly why we always tell people like you know,
if you have one bad back to someone tried again,
Like it's not a bad company, you know what I mean,
(01:02:57):
Like we've all had a funky box of fruit. Yeah right,
but if you see time and time again, or you
hear their bad morals or they're putting bullshit factives in
there like.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Whatever, that isn't my opinions. But hey, listen, smoke what
you want to smoke. But I gotta stop. Here's the
whole market doesn't care. Some of them don't. But you
got to find out what works for you, is my point.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, And that's why I love getting to talk to
you because like I feel like we aligned with like
who you are.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah, and that's it. And I kind of I try
to tell people I don't sell my product. I sell myself,
you know what I mean. Like I'm not getting you
to buy my product. I'm getting you to believe in
my vision. And as long as you believe in my vision,
we're going to go to the top together. Like that's
just that's just all there is to it, you know
what I mean, Like product product to the top. Man,
(01:03:42):
Like we're just getting started, you know, we're actually you know,
kind of kind of some pretty cool stuff that we're doing.
We're expending out then, and so we're actually getting.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
We want to come out there. I haven't been out
to Minnesota. We don't check out that market.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
So do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Let us know, may we can link.
Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
So we've actually I'm I'm part of a pretty big
group out there that's you know, really big on team
like like that's I come from from sports, Like that's
where I got a lot of my team mentality is
from sports football in high school. And it's just like
knowing I was I was a defense event.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Okay, so I was. I was.
Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I was a smaller guy, but I was a quick guy.
I was a quick guy off the edge. I was
a little eight not something like that. So you know,
so I just really got that team mentality ingrained me
really young and and I just really value and prioritize
people who have that mentality. So this group out in Minnesota,
you know, the founder he started the company because his
(01:04:38):
best friend passed away, and they like always had this
crazy dream to uh start this and and do a
really big team thing and and get the Minnesota market.
They just went legally just.
Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, no, that's not even.
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Even though they were So my goal is crazy, crazy ambitions.
My goal is to be one of the first processors
out there. I want to take freshly Harvard sid material,
wash it, press it, get it to market before the
dried cured flower. Even it's the shelf. I want to
have a Rozin on the shelf before flowers. Even on
this show, she could pull the flower down quicker. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Thought about that.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It takes fourteen days plus t my my math, my
brain was like it you know what I mean, I
can make Rosin in seven days, you know what I mean,
start to finish, so last five. So it's like, I
just think that'd be super cool. Be one of the
first come by.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Honestly, due in Minnesota would be like hash rose.
Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That's the thing education, education, I'm all body getting. We'll
come out there, We'll help promote education.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Set up another stew out there.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Come on. You know, am I still works out.
Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
It's like we're in Missouri, Minnesota, Michigan, everywhere because am I.
Hey listen, that's why my my my my email.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
It's my my candic cast everywhere Milan, we go, wherever. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
That's why my email email tag is dot us Exquisite
Extraction is dot us because we're going global.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Oh let's go. Yeah, it's your future plans is go global.
I love it. I like about Highland.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
You're reaching for the stars. So even in land among
the clouds.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Because he's still young, I'm thirty, you know, Like I
got it. I got lots of gifts still, you know
what I mean. I want to I want to do
a lot. I want to I want to share a lot.
I think, you know, getting getting the story out, sharing
the experiences with people is just so important.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
You know, money, Money is a byproduct.
Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Money becomes a secondary motion once you fall in love
with the passion, like it will come.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
An you hustle like when you're working hard, Like money
will come if you work hard, like passion met with
dedication and perseverance.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Dude, Like it's it's the golden combo. You're gonna make it.
You're gonna make it. It's not a matter of it
if it's a matter of when. So being just locked
in there and just like you know what I mean,
I just got my my sight.
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Set a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
So October baby, like you said, you know, aim for
the moon, land and the stars. It's still it's still
a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
So, there's just there's a lot of cool stuff in
the works.
Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
You know, New Jersey's going to be coming online in
the next couple of months too.
Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
We're expanding out there. Yeah, so we're trying to like
the term MSO, the coinage is kind of got a
weird connotation to it. Now, I want to show that
there's ability to be a mom and pop MSO.
Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, like you said, commercial without the corporate. Yeah, we
have brands in the state here Michigan, like Redemption just
went to uh fuck is it Pennsylvania or was it
West I forgot they're out there out they went out east,
and like.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Grasshopper just popped up in New Jersey. Un little the
guys over at.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Grasshopper and like respect on the brands like Redemption and
I'm not familiar with Grasshopper And now you guys are
guys are a most plus day. It's like it's great
because you're showing that it's the corporate side that's the bad. So.
Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I think the reason why MSO had a bad name
is because MSOs in the beginning were people coming to
our state from other states.
Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, they I think once we were like, oh, but
if good brands went elsewhere, right, So that's where I opened.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Up my mind to realize, maybe find out if some
of these these brands coming in are solid. Right. So
that's when I opened my heart. And then all of
a sudden seven to ten came around. I was like, Okay,
so there are okay msls out there. Yeah, you just
gotta be a little more choosy because sometimes if they're
just jumping state, it's like, is a garbage product you're
just trying to bankroll off of?
Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, or they're just trying to be predatory, you know
what I mean, They're trying to they're trying to come
in and squash the market before it even starts, you know.
That was That's why the barrier contry for guys like
me was so high for so long.
Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
That's why I'm but the name is evolved because I
think people didn't understand mso at first meeting, just because
like when the market was new, you were just getting
people come here trying to make money. Right now it's
kind of like, Okay, it's matured, and that's where it
depends on the company depends.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
They're still shitting msls. There's still people doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
You know, that's why. You know, that's that's why some
companies that that just pulled out of Michigan. It's they're
just bouncing state to state. It's what they're doing, you know.
That's the corporate side.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
That's yeah, because they're well, unless I'm making three thousand
of powers, it's not worth my time, then you're not.
Pillage is the next ding, right, And we actually any
people who said that, like, oh, if it goes under
a two.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Thousand pounds, like why am I even here? And it's like,
I'm I mean, like you do marketing.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I was like, what do you even?
Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
You don't even care? Like this, I could use this example.
I'm not going to put them on the bus, maybe
off air, I'm not putting it on are but but
this is this person I overheard say something rude. It
was like then they it was this one of my
first examples that stuck with me. I've seen example since.
But when you see someone who's not passionate, you're like, oh,
you're dine.
Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
For the money. Yeah, you know that's why examples not
the person easy to see. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You know, so I see your passion, man, I feel
your passion. But I know this is why I was
trying it meant to. I just didn't want to forget this.
But you keep, you keep shouting people out, but anyone
you didn't shout out, because I want to make sure
you shout out anyone who helped you get the way.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
That helped you get here.
Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah, I mean literally, family, friends, man like I truly
wouldn't have been able to make it and keep doing
what I do, Like I've been through a ton of hardship,
you know. I mean, like I said, if I if
I wrote my life story down on paper, not many
people would believe it. And you know, it's it's all
it's all truth. It's just like a movie, you know
it is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
And you know maybe maybe one day in Netflix my line's.
Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Open, we'll see. But you know, it's it's just all
the people that supported me along the way, that made
the hard hard days, you know, easier, and just really
supported me throughout the whole thing, because it's a lot
I had to sacrifice a lot of time with my family,
with you know, my friends, and missing out a lot
of a lot of you know, experiences at a young age.
So you know, shout out to everybody that that have
(01:10:10):
my back on the way up, you know, shout out
to all my partners that we work with, you know,
I shout it out a lot of them, you know,
just just everybody that makes a mission possible. Without a purpose,
you know, we don't really have, like there's not a
whole lot to do on this planet, you know, so
having people that that rely on you and and you
rely on them, that's a very cohesive thing. And I
(01:10:31):
put a lot of you know what I mean, it's
if we can't do it together, there's no point in
doing it alone. So you know, just shout out to
really everybody the world, the globe, you know, like love, love, everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Share your energy. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
You're just really happy and appreciate to get to do
what you get to do, you.
Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Know, and just emotional.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
But it's real like this, being able to wake up
and like love what I do every single day.
Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
It's blessing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
It's a blessing, and I wouldn't try it for the world.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
It's I love it, man, I love it. I got
one last question for you. We've asked every guest this. Yes,
you know what's coming? All right, I'll say you're cracking.
I'm assuming dads is your go to, right yeah, for sure, man,
I'm a we never got the final answers.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Flowers as crazy as it is for somebody who owns
a cannabis company, I'm such a like consumer, just like
smoking those two joints, doll, I'm I'm fried. Like you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Joints is a pretty solid they're used to the people
who are like passing these ones where they as a
whole me groovy.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Listen to this in context, guys, coming soon. Context. I
was talking about like those I'm playing.
Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I'm just playing, but definitely rosen Man, like like flower
flower and like that, you know, high high THC products.
That's why it's not about chasing number. It's it's all
about the effects you feel, rosen I. It's such a
full power.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
The slurri can is the only one that's saying around
he said, oh he had it something like that's that
stash stash He yes, they're yes there, I know where
you live, give me hey, you know where you live.
Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
You're in my house, all right, but yeah, but you know,
just just listeners too much TAC just sends me over
the edge. So Rosin, that's that's why I preach, you know,
with education, why solventist. That's why we carry an info
packet everywhere we go. Oliver Dispensary is our vendor days.
Why is solventless, you know the superior. It's it's just
(01:12:33):
for me personally. And you know, no discredit to the
line Resin guys, that dissy guys.
Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I came from that world.
Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
It's just now, like I see through education. What a
full flavor, you know, A full encompassing product is the
full entourage.
Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
E fact.
Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I can smoke a Grammar Risin to my face and
be totally fine. I smoke a joint to the face.
I'm gonna be in a corner in the fetal position, tripping.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's just what it is.
I don't I don't know. It's just something about Rosin.
Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
It's unlimited, as Russell Wilson would say, Oh limity, yeah Diesel,
Yeah see that's that's fine. Let the turfs talk.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You know, the greatest guy speaking.
Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Of turf that I do want to kind of shout out,
shut out, shout out us real quick, fucking yeah, strawberry guava.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
This stuff is coming in at eleven point four four percent.
That was tasty.
Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
This ship is like gas Olina. This stuff another really
good one. Bridy the eleven eleven make a wish.
Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
As soon as you said that, I heard gas So
I don't know about you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
To anyone listening to the podcast, that's stuck in your
hand now for us today, So you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
So say you're cracking open the jar of your exquisite yep,
breaking open that slur cane. Yeah, and a Ganza genie
pops out. It's like, oh, my, grant you one wish
to change anything within the industry, what are you gonna
wish for? Trent? Teamwork?
Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Straight up, just being just being on the same path
for so long. It's been so cutthroat, and you know
most of it is guided by the corporate You kind
of put into a wall. You're kind of like an animal,
you know what I mean? Like that, And if you're
in the if you're in the open, appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yeah, that's the secret stash. So you know, if you're not,
that's I'm just splitting them all, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
If you're in the open, and and you know in
the wild, a dog is going to be you know,
nice friendly, you can go in and interact with them.
You put them in a corner. They're they're gonna do
what they gotta do, you know what I mean. And
that's what a lot of cannabis operators had to resort
to because of corporate so finding a way regulation, regulation,
trying to find a way to squash that and realize
that there is a way to all work together and
(01:14:41):
achieve the dream together. That's what I think the industry needs,
and that's why I really viewed this whole bill situation
not as a problem, but as that opportunity. It's an
obstacle we got to get over, but it's an opportunity
for us to realize, like, yeah, dude, if we all
stand together and actually fight the good fight, we could
we can do this. There's a chance that we don't
really do that.
Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
That's coming together. We saw it, he saw you saw it.
You felt that so loud in the Capital, Dude, it
was so powering. Dude.
Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Energy through the videos made imagine being there, Like I've
been to forty thousand people stadium, I went to the
Big House one hundred and ten.
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Dude, Like I felt more energy and power.
Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
In that room like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
That was just crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
It was It was honestly unreal people powered, I save
save our jobs. Like we took videos, we posted it.
It gives me the chills tak thinking about it, and
then like it reminds you of like how many people
really care about it. That is deep because it's exactly
and it's a huge industry. Fifty thousand people work in
it there, like so many brands here. It affects from
your metric to the medical, to your home, to your homegrows,
(01:15:44):
to your consumers, to everybody. It affects everybody, and it's
like we come together with teamwork, maybe somehow we can
get this twenty four percent down to zero or at
least down to something that's reasonable, like to four percent
something small, nothing. It should be zero, He's truthly honest.
It should be because it should be taxed on something else,
because you're going to ruin the industry.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Well, I keep saying twenty four percent more of sixty
percent less.
Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
It's not more money.
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I'd rather have a half a watermelon than a whole greate,
you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You know what I mean, my fucking spirit ant. But
it's it's some real stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
They're trying to poach on an industry that that really
did help change a lot of people's lives. I mean,
you know, crushing the opiate crisis is insane, and it's
really helped change a lot of people's lives, people that
I really hold near and dear. That's another reason why cannabis.
I have loved ones that have passed away to addiction.
Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
It's it's a powerful thing that it was.
Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Like you know, one of our only Like it was
like me and him, like from our high school buddies.
Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
A lot of us lost touch.
Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
It was like being and our other buddy who passed away,
still till keep in touch.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
So I hear you. Yeah, man, So it's just like
before we started this, just just changing the way we
look at at how you know, lawmakers view us. We're
not like some crazy weird industry. We're not, you know. Yeah, no,
no discredit to alcohol, Like I'll have a drink every
once in a while, but like that shit does hurt people.
It does damage and kill people.
Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
And to see so much it's forcing people who should
be smoking weed to drink too. Like just if you
want to smoke some weed, like I mean, that's the thing, Like, yeah,
if you want the option, you can handle drinking. Right,
you're saying, there'll more respect to you. But back in
the day, I think people everyone that was all that
was okay, right. No, now that you have the option,
you're seeing people shift. You're seeing the shift. You're seeing
people smoke more weed and not just get wasted off
(01:17:33):
don't drinks.
Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
There's more like there's more things for people to get
accumulated to it if they don't want to smoke, you know,
like mossibility escepsially think that was the world's trying to
think of. Oh, and they're starting to get.
Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
That that that it's bad because dude, I remember I
stayed away from I remember I stayed away from cannabis
in high school because I was taught.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
My friend would say, I won't talk to you. Oh
it's bad, it's illegal, it's dope, it's drugs.
Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
But then meanwhile, I'm getting so drunk at sixteen, I'm
falling asleep on my buddy's porch because we drank so much.
Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
What was that blue sh sh it?
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Oh god, it was like it was like no, it
was like it was the course ship the court. We
were mixing it with like hennessy. We were drinking like
this blue Draco so.
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I'm like, I don't know, I don't know that right. No,
hypnotic hypnod drink.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Was the slogger for the New Age's throwing up off
the porch at sixteen on the porch.
Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
But like that's okay and that but that's I was laughing.
Was smoking a joint. It was like, you could smoke
cigarettes because he's a cigarettes too. That was when I
smoked some cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Just cool because you hit him at that young age.
I'm saying you shift a different way, Like who knows
what I would have been. I would just smoke some wings.
Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
It was okay, man.
Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
That's the other big part and stuff with the like
all this talk about the black market being really re
you know, re lit is like what about Nancy the
lady who goes with the dispensary to get edibles. You know,
she's not gonna go find some plug at you know,
down the street, Like what do you what about her accessibility?
Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
You're forcing people back to big farm or back to
the botto.
Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, like that's my point.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
Like I I literally help people get off of very
heavy ship with some r s O like very heavy ship.
You know, I helped I held an old older woman
in Ohio with bone cancer with ours, so like being able,
Like if you don't, if you can't do that, what
else are they going to just take, you know, morphine
right to the face and just get knotted off into.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Sometimes it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Like we have friends, we have my buddy's dad has
cerebral pulse and he's looking for something and like we wanted.
Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
To try ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Said he was issued ish issues with getting high.
Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
So we're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
It's a journey.
Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah, man, But like you said, when morphine doesn't work,
what you do right right or so r so go organic? Yeah,
put it, put it in his tea, yeah right, Yeah,
you gotta be there with them. Though dumbing doesn't heal, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Learn that the hard way to brace you more because
you think nothing's wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yeah, it's here to stay. Cannabis isn't going anywhere, and
your answered teamwork is going back to that is what
we need moving forward, especially with this bill.
Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Partner together people, this is important. We're all standing for
the same thing. We got the same vision, same dreams.
It's important we come together now is a precipice. We
can either jump off and just quit and everybody go
back to their day jobs, or we can lock in
fight this fight together and realize, you know, we have
the power to change Boston tea party, you know, part two,
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
For the canvas, Let's go green party. I saw whoever
made that Instagram too, you know. But no, You're absolutely right,
and honestly, I have nothing more to say that. That's
a great way to end in man. I appreciate you
coming on trying. I appreciate you partners and believing with us,
be able to stand by your morals.
Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
We appreciate you know the product. We appreciate everything. Ye
appreciate you partnering with us, like Groovey said, and supporting
our message and believing in us. We do want to
give a shout to our partners before we dip on
this episode. We denied I did not kick it off today,
So again, shout out to all of our partners that
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saw her post and you still want to try one
of the products, hit us in the day. We might
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I know what you call it. It's so infused. They're
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just moon rocks, right, It's like double double solventless moon rocks,
so solventless moon rock.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Double infused though at least yeah, triple almost because us
we're gonna be trying that, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
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Thanking to all of our partners that make this possible.
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Thank you to trying. I appreciate you coming on making
it in studio, smoking us down, talking about your your
experience from back in the day to where you're at now,
the growth, the future. I'm loving it. Hey, Como too,
We went almost like we went twenty thirty minutes over.
Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
We did even Yeah, I literally didn't look just get
trapped up.
Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
I did what was like fifteen minutes and I looked
up and it's hour and five, Like, well, we'll have
to bring you back on, bring the studio, maybe we
can bring you on on the waken banks or something.
If you're up early. I know you're in bed. I'm well,
but well, maybe we get you really waking bacon with it. Man.
But thank you, and as always groovy. We're here to advocate, educate,
and inspire the next time, y'all base