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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode
of Mechanic Caast. I'm Candid, Dave and I'm groovy. Today's episode,
we're gonna be jumping all over the US. We have
articles from all over, but we're gonna end up back
in Michigan on something that we haven't talked about, which
is very cool. We did talk about it a post
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, we've been talking about this on and off for years,
wanting this, saying this needs to happen. So the fact
that it's finally a thing is pretty cool. So we'll
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Keep our story. You'll see some plants in action.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yep, Dave's doing some side by sides. So, like Dave said,
we're doing a bunch of articles today from all over.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, we're gonna first start out in Colorado. And this
has nothing to do with cannabis, actually has to do
with psychedelics. So Colorado's Senate Committee advance's bill to let
Governor ardened people for low level psychedelicated offenses, which is
great because it's been legal there now for a couple
of years, and now eventually hopefully this passes that. They've

(02:10):
voted it past five to two. Now they're bringing to
the Senate committee, and I believe if it passed there,
it goes to the Governor's desk, and I'm pretty sure
he's gonna sign it. So substance as in psilocybin in
d MT and I will gain would be the ones
that if you had any offenses with those, you abibley
to get them dismissed, which is a step in the
right direction, because like same thing with cannabis. You know,

(02:32):
if you've had a cannabis crime like that needs to
be exposed from your record because it really needs.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I mean, it's fascinating that it gives the governor the
power to do it, to grant clemency. Like I mean,
I'm not saying like that's I'm not saying that's unique too,
like because but this is a unique thing in itself.
But it's fascinating to be like, all right, the governor
can do it. You know, it's still not a district thing.
It needs to be. It's a state wide thing. It's
still at a very high it's still at a pretty
high level, like I mean, to get to get it

(02:57):
written off that you know that that's a lot of power,
you know, But I think maybe that's how they want it.
I just think it's fascinating to give the governor the power.
I guess makes more sense than giving mayor's power and stuff.
But I don't know. I just I think this is
all unique thing. So I just to give the governor
power like that, and then every you know, right now
it's this Jared person, but in the future it's every governor.

(03:18):
So from now on, the governor will always be able
to write off those low level of offenses. And like
Dave says, it's it's fantastic because a lot of these
charges aren't. These aren't people like trapping right like sell
you know, a lot of people, you know, they're just
getting caught. Mushrooms. A lot of people farm them because
it's just more cost off.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Whatever is low.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Or even if they're farming them, dude, like most people
are just farming them for themselves. They're not farming for
like profits, like I mean, And maybe there are people
out there doing it. I'm not saying there aren't, obviously
there are. I'm just saying generally, like there's not like
a lot of lucrative money in mushrooms, you know what
I mean, like not not well, not compared to a
lot of drugs in general. Like you know what I'm

(03:57):
saying in general, like if you go and sell, like
you know, some drugs, you can go make some money.
Like people say they can cut it in half and
make more or something in the rap song or ten million.
But my whole point is that it's not. It's not
in the cannabis. You can use so many different things
of it, you know, down from like the shake is valuable,
to like the nug to like everything's valuable on it. Right.
I just think mushrooms are very personal experience and very spiritual,

(04:21):
you know, not necessarily lucrative money.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah no, no, I agree with you, And that's why
it'd be good. That's why it's good for these offenses
to be gone. There's also another change they're trying to
within there, which the legislation would further amend rules around
licensing and ownership of psychedelic killing centers. So they said,
for example, or it moves a requirement for fingerprint background
checks for owners and employees of license facilities, making it
so they'd only be subject to a name based criminal

(04:44):
background check, which is good because if you're trying to
expand and you're doing fingerprints anyone that's been in the system,
your fingerprints don't go away off the name. You might
be able to just be able to you won't have
to go through and discuss everything, right, it might be
gone from record, both dumb prints. I'm assuming that's it's
going to show up no matter what all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So well when you bring up a valid point, because
like if it's a low level charges off your record,
it needs to be completely off your record, otherwise it's
gonna come back and haunt you. I mean, you even
know how bad your raid stuff haunted you for years,
and like you know what I mean. Like so it's
like this this stuff doesn't just go away. So when
it like they it's cool that they added that to say, like, no,
it's really off your record, it's not just like you know,

(05:22):
the cops can still see a type of thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, and you need that because, like you said, you
don't want it to be popping up in some time
when you're like trying to get a corporate job or
you're trying to do something and you're trying to get
a loan and they're like, oh, hey.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
What's Yeah, no more that type of stuff, Absolutely no,
I mean, and they I hope that other states see
the power in this because like I know, we're seeing
a lot of decriminalization, right so you know, the government
can still get pay get some money for a fee,
but no one gets in trouble. But like realistically, like
it's a plant medicine just like cannabis, you know, I

(05:56):
you know, sure, like I said, less lucrative because you
don't need as much of it. You take a god dose,
it may change your perspective heavily, you know what I'm saying.
But I just think I hope other states would follow
a suit because there's tons of other like you know,
religious practices, spiritual practice, whatever you want to call them.
There are some soul searching stuff. There are vanders from mushrooms,

(06:17):
And I think I don't think you should be scared
to have mushrooms in your house because once a year
you want to take a trip, or when you're having
a life changing experience, you should being scared.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I think I think mushrooms are changing, to be honest,
because We're seeing more and more states discussing decriminalization. We're
seeing more states going for legalization. We're seeing it come
up through even politicians. We're seeing it down and down
for research. So I truly do think that in the
near future, I think more states are going to be
legal with mushrooms than we do.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Before because because there's that lack of money being made,
so there's lack of the other side pushing back. No
one's everyone's like ya, that's fine, you know what I mean,
No one's really gonna it sounds like it's not like
because it's like it's not like lumber vers Hemp, right,
like where there's a bunch of people making money being
like no, well that even too.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
These politicians don't know anything even about mushrooms, So like,
oh yeah, cool, cool, cool, youah legalize it whatever, get
them off or back, We'll give you this.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
That's actually a fair way to look at it.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Safe banking, no legal mushrooms we got. As much as
I hate to laugh about that, but I just feel
like we've been talking about safe banking for years and
you never see stuff get done. But now I'm seeing
so much news on just mushrooms consistently being pushed, and
it's it's great to see because it should be legal.
It should it should be decriminalized legal, so you should
be able to have the option to try. It's very

(07:31):
therapeutic and even micro dosing in general, it's huge.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I just don't think you should be labeled as a criminal.
That's it. Like, I mean, I don't think like like,
I've dabbled with a lot of dumb party drugs, and
drugs in my life's out pretty much all you can
do except maybe a couple. So, but there's something beautiful
about like plant medicines. They're not as dirty, right, Like

(07:56):
there's something you can actually learn from eating some mushrooms
or eat some d MT or something, know, smoking some bud.
I think I understand, like when you try to make
other things illegal, but like keeping mushrooms under under choke
hold is just like it's just like cannabis. You're just
holding it back for no reason.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
No, you truly are.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Besides that, I don't like it. It's all personal conflicts,
which is not like these streets are flooded with ods
from mushrooms. You know, no, you know, we got heroin.
It's like your f Yeah, So Anyways, Yeah, you know,
I'm glad to see this mushroom stuff coming through. I'm

(08:35):
excited because I think this is a new era of
I mean, think about even generations of kids who just
now are gonna get into cannabis and mushrooms now and
maybe never even want to try all these crazy stupid drugs,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So it's gonna be interesting because they're growing up in
a whole different world where we grew up, because we
grew up with touch.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, this was this was pretty much heroin like from
what my dad's perspective was the devil. This is dope.
You smoke a dope. My dad will still hit me
with you smoking dope. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, out to Colorado for making changes. Let's jump in
Oklahoma because I know they're, yeah, making different kinds of changes.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, less positive, less positive, more negative. So essentially the
Oklahoma go as funny. As soon as I did that,
the lower third popped over it. But the Oklahoma governor
calls for state wide crackdown on psychoactive marijuana by products.
If you're not familiar with psychoactive byproducts or cannabis byproducts,

(09:30):
that's referring to things such as Delta eight THHC, delta
tendc HHC th c O THHCP, you know missing one
that's big THHCV that's like the big one that's supposed
to like get you really high or whatever. But essentially, yeah,
these are hemp delivered. And like the thing is, like

(09:52):
I've always been back and forth on this type of stuff, right, uh,
because I don't you know, because as you know, I'm
sure cannabis it's a like how like we were talking
about earlier lumbered and like hemp right, because you're taking
away from their money, the cannabis community. It's like you're
taking away from their money. But like I I I
so I get what people are saying, but like because
it's not like real weed, but like I think hemp

(10:12):
is still hemp, right, and these low THHD products, it's like,
are these these false derivatives? Like you know, even there's
differences right, Like so it's like the we're not just
talking hemp, we're talking by products. So I just want
to clarify the difference. This isn't like low t C
stuff that is technically THC. It's just that you need
a lot of it to be right. Hemp drived this

(10:34):
is talking like hac THCO. And the reason why I
make a difference is because I like that hemp exists.
I think the hemp product is a beautiful thing. I
think low dose stuff. I think being able to order
it in all fifty states is opening the doors and
starting legulation for all the THHD products that will eventually
go through. Right, well, so go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
That and then Hemp's great for paper, it's great.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
For right, right, But some of them, of these by
products are just chemicals made in a lab, right like,
So this to me is pretty much just like the
research chemical version for weed. So like, this is why
I say I draw the line because like, although I
get why it exists, like people who get on probation,
like they still want to be able to like feel
high like and not have to use drugs. I get

(11:15):
why they exist. There's a market, but like, man, it
just doesn't. It's just like spice and all that shit
back in the day. It's not good for you, like
it's it just does. I don't think that making it
in a lab with fake terps can be good for
you in any way. Like, I don't know how that
anyone could be looking at me like this is healthy.
You know what I'm saying. At least when you're getting
a hemp drive drink or you're getting some cannabis, it's

(11:37):
like there's health to it. There's health benefits. I don't
know what the health. I don't think there's health benefits
when you're like getting high off you know, AHC or
you know, THCO or TVP whatever, TV or P excuse me,
you know what I'm saying. Like so that that I
think that's my issue with this versus hemp. Like I
because like when we used to talk cannabis versus hemp,

(11:58):
I was always like, oh we At first, I'm like,
you take away from the market, it's different. But when
you actually smoke camp, You're like, all right, this is
like its cousin. This is like a clone made in
a lab. Like you know what I mean. That's you
know what I mean? This is not nothing like the same.
There's like those new birds that they just made or something,
or those wolves whatever, they weren't those wolves that they
made for the first time. This is crazy. This is

(12:19):
some crazy ship that we're doing. Hey, we're gonna take
fake flavor, fake stuff that makes you feel like you're
high and thrown in a vape, which isn't that healthy either.
So here you go, like.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's like, yeah, no, see my thing is is we're
in America. It's so funny. We always take one. We'll
take everything and just do whatever we can, push it
to the limit. And then when they're like push it
and then when they're like I were in a portal mine,
yeah I don't literally sorry, And then you know what
I'm saying though, that we push it to the limit
trying to test everything. No, it's like how.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
High can we humanly get off a ship? That's not
actually that like here's but I think it's just that
market if people want to make money off people who
want to get high who can't.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
But here's the thing, though, you're effecting the lead industry
because we can't be sold in gas stations. All the
ships sold in gas stations, Like and then you have
people when you have conversation with them like how is
that not weed? Because it looks like weed, right, you know,
like the flower looks like weed, And you're like, so
I just think I don't know. I hate to say regulation,

(13:18):
but I mean I don't know. They might have to
be eventually.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Because this is the issue. This is why I want
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's not fair to all these cannabis brands that are
growing cannabis.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Because we've looked what it can't. Look what overregulation is
done to cannabis. Look what it's done to the consumption lounges.
Look at what it's done. Like, if you did that
to Hemp, I hate myself. Do you do that to Hemp?
Then Hemp's I mean this is that I said, like,
I just don't want it to happen to Hamper cannabis,
right because it's like, when it already happens, it's already
looking like shit. This is like a little convoluted for
me because I don't want overregulation. But when it's like

(13:45):
just a chemical, it's it's just like these these fake terps.
I don't really want it around.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, no, no, I feel that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
But it's also then it's like, but also if I
was to go on probation and not have access to
plant medicines, I probably want it. And that's that's what
I'm saying. I'm just arguing the others. I'm not necessarily
agree we're going both sides because I don't I don't
think there's a right or wrong in this site?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Do you think it's good though, for people to have it,
Like you said, if they're on probation and they want
to smoke, but then you can also technically smoke have just.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
So, I guess the best question is do you agree
with what Oklahoma's doing or disagree?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Olahoma's not the first state to do it, though, there's
like I think I'm not mistaken this and they're like
twenty states, ten to twenty states that have like put something, but.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
This crackdown also like they're actually task agencies to specify
this too. I don't know if I got in this,
but they're having like coordinated investigation, targeted enforcement, and regular assessment,
so coordinated investigation identifying investigating the manufacturers and distribution and
sale of these compounds both through license dispensaries and on
licensed venues such as conmedience stores. So apparently they're alleging

(14:46):
that dispos are selling them too. That also might be
a reason to get their self access to the store.
I don't know how I feel about that, but this
could just be being sold to gas stations. Yeah, I
guess their idea is saying that that place is technically
like since to sell a byproduct, these ones aren't either
way target enforcement agents such as OBN, d DC and
DPS and OSBI. We'll focus on unlawfuled networks such as

(15:09):
OMMA to ensure dispensary compliance. So there's they're just they're
really pushing a lot. They're adding money to this. So
it's like, so I said, I don't always like overfunding
to regulate stuff really heavily.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I don't like the crack down I greas I should
finish actually a regular assessment agents. We work together identify
any regulatory gaps and provide recommendations for statutory or administrative
improvements to the governor office. So it's just they're basically
adding money to the cops to basically like, hey, where
we don't want this product around. Which that's so that's
why I said, I'm stuck between a rock and a
hard place, because as a cannabis user and like hemp supporter,

(15:46):
I can't really support the chemicals, but I do as
an American Like so it's like that's what I'm saying,
as like a hippie, It's like the hippie side of
me stays stick to the plant, medicine, stick to the mushroom,
step to the cannabis, stick to the hemp. But it's
like the American to me is like you're taking away
people's right to like smoke already, so it's like you're

(16:06):
not gonna let them even have a byproduct. I don't know.
So it just stuck me in a rock and a
hard place because it's like already it's like a right field. Yeah,
let us know, because I don't like the ice idea
of taking away rights, but I also don't like being unhealthy,
because dude, when I smoked K two, that ship was
a nightmare, Like I wish that shit. I know, but
it's basically a chemical, is what I'm saying. You're smoking

(16:28):
chemicals like that. That's my closest understanding too. I mean,
I guess we have tried one vape, so but I
can't really say I understand HHC was that vap We
bought it from I'm not say, a smoke shop and
it was HHC. I think we lost him. We're like,
that's fine, Like we just never really cared, because that's
what I'm saying. It was like, but that's what I

(16:48):
was trying to say. That's what spice was. I was
trying to fill, like I'm getting high like a stoner,
and I would smoke this K too, and I would
feel like, oh my god, that's not what that's for
us to feel like. So I just feel like they're like, hey,
here's some chemicals to make money off people who are struggling, right,
So I don't necessarily like it. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I don't know. But also you can buy weed cheapest
fucking some states where you have this.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know how alcaholma is so true true.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I don't know for me personally, anything with that K
two or anything with the fake weed, I'm just not
a fan of. I just won't smoke. That's just right,
Go go to I smoked like.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I Just like I said, this city is tough because
it's between health versus rights versus you know, regulation versus business,
and it's like just it's a very compolated mix of those.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So okay, well, we'll be keeping you all updated on that.
It's gonna be going, it's gonna be transpiring, trans it's
gonna be talked out in every state because when they
haven't built passed, all this stuff became legal pretty much.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
So this is like the gate's opening, right, that's a
good way to say it is. It is, but like
people know what to do right now.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And they didn't know what they did when they legalized him.
The whole government didn't know. But they can't God damn
fucking say baking, you know what I'm saying. It's like,
it's just funny, like how they do this ship and
then they rear retracting everything.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
But so, speaking of K two, this is why I
also keep bringing it up because it's in the next
article I want to talk about. So this is this
is crazy to me. Just reading this article, I was like,
I'm sorry, what year is it, because I feel like
it's twenty twenty five not two thousand, Yeah, exactly twelve
or ten or eight whatever it was. But so this
article just states.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Just caught me off guard.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
K two synthetic marijuana, despite being illegal in New York
is still not hard to find age just ever, still
not hard to find the.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
New York's illegal.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's just well, yeah, but that's what's.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Crazy to that statement you just read and it's.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Still new though. We're still talking like.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Bro, it's New York and how you can get weed
in every quarter. There's bags. When I was there with
people selling bags, dude disposed.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We're pretty easy to get your med card in two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, but not everyone did.
It was still around, right hold on, let me let
me just get to the point, is that I just
think it's crazy that it's even existing. I didn't even
know the product was around, Like because Michigan, do we
put our foot down on it?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah? Or did it legally?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's what I was gonna say, is because I don't
think I see it anymore because it's legal.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Not because it was popourri. You're literally smoking polpourri smoked.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Listen. I know I was on those papers like while
I was like when I got it. I got a
duy when I was twenty one, and I technically got
away with it. I got off, but it took me
like six seven months of fighting it. So on that time,
I still would report drug testing and blowing once a week,
and I just remember that sucks, so like that's the

(19:25):
only thing I could sue because I couldn't drink. I
couldn't drink or smoke or anything, you know, so I
just I was doing it and dude. I remember being
like one time calling a buddy saying like, dude, I
think I'm gonna die, Like that shit was horrible, Like
you were literally smoking potpourri. Like I don't even know.
I think people sometimes just like relabeled it, Like I
don't even think they alls they would.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do is they would change one chemical in it once
slightly chemical, and then that would be back on store
shelves because it'd be legal with all the horrible And
I remember it because I smoked it one time and
I was like, oh no, never never ever. I was like,
if I'm not if I can't smoke weed, I'm not
going to smoke that's literally, And that's why I was
just saying, like a couple minutes ago, because like I
literally remember the taste. I was like, this literally tastes
like I'm eating those holiday decorate decorations that you have

(20:06):
at fat your mom has. Literally it's what it tastes like.
But you were smoking, dude.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm saying, like it's some of the worst things that
I have a lot of regress in this like especially
right now, but that is still one of my top one,
like one of the top ten at least, And I
regret it a lot right now, especially, but like that ship,
that was horrible.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, a couple of our buddies around that, but it
did what it did. What everyone when you couldn't smoke weed,
that's what it did. Because we obviously stays in your system.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Because like you say that to like my sister's generation
or someone younger. She about a decade younger than me. Again,
they're like low twenties seem someone younger. It's like even
young twenties, like they would be like, what do you
mean because they don't even know an age where it
wasn't in.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Bro let's talk about salvia. Salvia used to be legal.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I did.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
None of us knew what the fuck that was.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh well, I remember Salvia, Dave, I still have.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I have nightmares of my trips still. It had a
while though, Salvia, I remember it like crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's really the one who fell out backwards over the couch, right.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, knocked over the bong, pulled down my fucking my
bong I.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Got for the birthday one week prior to this date.
By the way, I had that bong for one week
when they broke. I won't because I broke a lot.
But like I'm still not gonna let you live it down.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And see that ship was made on store shelves, so
a lot of the ship and that was just bought
at a convenience, Uh, tobacco bills like a wild bills,
you know what I'm saying. That's where that was bought.
That's where the K two was bought.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's where you could do that. You can buy a
gas stations. Yeah, this K two ship, And that's what
I was. That's why when I read this article, they're
saying there's a Webchester family. County family says synthetic Marinulad
was like the loss of their death one after became
addicted addicted to it. So that's kind of where this is,
like kind of going after the story of Nathan Hester
and like isn't that crazy, Like I mean, you know

(21:48):
they talk about he had issues, and you know he
was in rehab for opiates and stuff, so you know
he struggled. I feel him more than ever because I've
struggled with addiction multiple times of I'm sober, I'm not
so I'm sober, I'm not sober. And cannabis is the
only plant medicine I've ever been on to do where
I don't want to do other drugs like at all.
So it's it's why I've always been like all about

(22:10):
the organic side of it, because like once you start
doing drugs of like chemical drugs, it's a weird path. Right.
So anyways, like, yeah, that the article breaks into him
basically you know, losing his life and stuff, and it's
just so sad because like clearly struggled with addiction and
then you're doing K two, which, like Dave said, is
what chemicals just straight chemicals. You don't even know what

(22:33):
don't you don't you know, like you know, it's just
so sad. You know, people like this are losing their lives.
But you know, it's just that it's twenty twenty five
and you can still find on the street.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I thought that was extinct.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
This article came out on April twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
You think salvia will come back because now we brought
this up. I'm like curious, you think slvia will come back.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I don't. I'm what I'm trying to. I don't think
they ever went away. I think we are just used
to it not being around in Michigan. Like I wonder
if we went to states, like I don't know Oklahoma. No,
this isn't in Oklahoma. This was in the last one
was in Oklahoma. Uh, this was in oh.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
My lord, Louisiana, New York, New York York.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Where it's like I just said it like three times,
but it's just crazy like that, you know, it's just weird.
It's it's it's wild to see an article someone losing
their life to K two in twenty twenty five where
it's like, like you just said you would have access to cannabis,
and like it's it's clearly because he struggled and he
craved a higher high, because I've been there and I

(23:37):
get that more than anyone is a slippery slope. And
I feel so sorry for his family. That struggle is
real and and this is why plant medicine and cannabis
can just like it's enough, But what is the most
you're gonna do after he smokes some weed, get some food,
spend some money on some more weed, like like you
know what I mean, Like that's about it.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, Like it's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And I understand that when people are first using cannabis
or people use it too young, it can you know,
it makes people not be lazy but when you actually
use cannabis for the correct reasons like and don't just
abuse it like not you really respect the medicine, like
there's some you know, agreed, man, there's some beauty there.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Agreed. That's why we advocate for it. To me, we go,
which you have the opportunity to be able to consume
cannabis and even now h psilocybin and psychedelics. Ween, we're
pretty pretty pretty probably, But I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's a that's a good way to honestly, you just
bring you bring up salvia. It's a good point. Like,
I don't know, I hope these things don't make up
like they're resurgence. I just think that we just didn't
see them because we were in a state. Who's been
pretty they were in that movie right now, what's seventeen years,
fifteen years whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
In seventeen years, that's a lot of years.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's a lot of years.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
But that's what I'm saying. There's still states that aren't legal.
There's still seventeen years behind us. Oh, I know, that's
what that's That's what I sometimes to say, is that mindset.
It is hard for me to put myself in. So
that's why it's hard to say is it weird or
is it just where I'm located, you know, And that's
something I have to do. If I did more, I don't.
I don't go to a lot of not unlegal states.
All that often true. It's not like I'm like, oh,

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I don't go there. I just mean, like I don't
have a reason, Like I went to Kentucky like six
months ago.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
But you know.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's kind of just over the border of like Ohio,
so barely. So I may have knocked some stuff over
of Dave's.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
But seeds down, the seed bogs down.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Anyway. So that's pretty good. The articles everywhere besides our
final one. Yeah, so and that just you know which.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Just when we made a post on it's about it's
about a couple weeks over. I wanted to talk about it.
We've we've brought it. If you've been listening to us
for a while, I think you know this is one
of the main things we've been advocating Michigan. But here
does marijuana smell in Michigan no longer enough for police
to search someone? And that's that's the High Court rules. Yeah,
if we had the mixer here we begin a round

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of applause.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
That was doing it with my voice.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
So this is from Fox to this from Fox to Detroit.
Police in Michigan can no longer use the smell of
marijuana to establish probable cause that a crime is being
committed committed. An opinion from the Michigan Supreme Court last
week ruled that because pot is legal to purchase in
the state for adults, law enforcement cannot justify searching an
individual even if they can smell it. Big picture of

(26:36):
view is in significant, really hating down by the Michigan
High Court. The smell of we can no longer be
the sole cause behind law enforcementstatically probable cause in order
to search someone's motor vehicle. And that's what I wanted
to read because before, if they smelt the weed, they
could search you instantly. And I think that is amazing,
and that's why I want to finish that because if

(26:58):
you do work in weeds, I remember being a bud tender.
So when even smoking the car, you're round weed all day.
You know, if you're working to grow and you don't
shower your round plants, you're around all that all all
the weed all the smell, you're gonna smell like it.
There's no way you're not going to if you're especially
if you're working in the industry and that's legal. I mean,
you shouldn't be in trouble because you're working in the industry.

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Like if you have liquor boxes in the back of
your car and you're selling liquor and you got pulled over,
you're not gonna be in trouble.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I mean, that's what I was about to bring up.
And I didn't. I didn't mean to try to cut
you off. I just thought you were done there. But
probable cause the smell should not be a probable cause
for a lot of these things. And like hear me out,
like I say, a lot of these things because even
like when we bring up alcohol, why if my car
smells like alcohol, why can you search my car just

(27:48):
because they're, oh, you you spilled alcohol. People could spill things,
bottles break, right, It just doesn't necessarily mean that. Now
if I look glossy eye to my breath smells like alcohol,
I get that right. The same thing with weed. If
I'm like lit and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
If there's like smoking, if you catch me, like.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
What am I gonna do right.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Crew, He's like.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It fell in my mouth made me. You don't see them? No,
I got bigger issues, bro, No, but for real, uh no,

(28:32):
I just I think what it is is sometimes there's
too much power in the cop just having like a
way to be like into your car. And that's my
only point. I think it must be really really obvious car.
I don't I think these things that it's like, oh,
it smells like weed, kind of let me search your
car is just like it's like it's almost just like
a way for them to low hanging fruit to prove

(28:52):
something else, like, oh, now you have a roach in
your car. Now I get.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Let's imagine how many charges came after the vehicle got
st and the only reason why they got into the
vehicle was because the car smelled like weed. Now think
about this. You a smoker, I'm a smoker. You smoke
in your house, you don't leave that day, but you
leave the following morning. Your jacket, good chance, good smell
like weed?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Dude, If you smoke weed in your house and your
your clothes probably smells like weed.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah exactly. So like that's just great. That should give
like people a piece of mind.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
That was always the argument, bro, that was always the
whole point. Where was like, if it's legal to buy
weed and I even just put like weed in my
car and it smells like weed, you can search my
car Like that doesn't make any sense. Or if I
smoke weed on a hoodie, and then because my mom
will always say like, oh my god, did you just smoke,
I'm like no, and maybe my sweater.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I've been told by.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't even smoke as much flowers as you like,
I'll just be dabbing. I'm like, no, I haven't smoked
in like two days, Like what are you talking about?
But it's just because I because my house smells like weed,
so it's just like it. And then like you know what,
I visit you once and I'm like mare, I'm like no,
I'm just joking. My whole point because it shouldn't be
probable cause because.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It no, it shouldn't. I have even been told like
I am like, do I smell good? I've even brought
that up, and every time family director, no, you always
smell like weed. I say what, I didn't even didn't
even smell. I was very cloned. They're like, nope, weed.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I was like well, man, that's what I'm trying to say.
Like you can take you can do a drop, you
can spa clone, but you still smell like weed. Like
two people who don't smell weed, you can smell you
like rags used to smell. Now, my mom was just like,
what is what is going on? You know weed?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's hilarious speaking of that. This guy used to come
to my house like after he would work three three
in the morning, would blaze up four in the morning,
just blaze up in the car, talk about weed. And
that's where we've loved weed right, just get high and
then I would walk in my house like nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's how I fell in love brow did My mom.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Never really anything anything like and she didn't get walk
right on him.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
But like, your mom's really cool, like the people don't
get cannon. She's like the most easy going person, like
especially coming from my family, who I've become like probably
emotionally damaged from how much we would fight, like because
they're just used to fighting like I we we would
just fight like it was no one, no big deal.
Like your mom is so gentle, Like I I've s

(31:17):
like I've seen your mom kind of raise your voice
with him, and I'll say it in her tone without
without she just like David. That was like the most
intense I've ever in and that was her lived. That's
all I've ever seen. So she's so nice. So it's
like where it's like I could like literally like drop

(31:40):
a pencil in my dad be like what the motherfucker.
So it's like, you know, it's different tolerances for that time.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's just funny because I used to think I don't
smell that bad.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
No I smelled, Oh no, no, My mom my dad
always knew, like if you don't, if you have, if
you have a high tolerance for weed smoke, like you're
not gonna smell it that quickly. Like that's what I've learned,
Like people who are high don't smell it. You know,
if you asked someone, they're just like, what, I'll smell it.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I know me too funny, too funny, But no, that
was phenomenal news man. We've been talking about it for
about five years, Like I when that hit, we shared
the post like super ecstatic again. It's it's good. It's
good for everybody that smokes, because I.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Just think I just think laws like that are too generalizing.
You know what I mean, you basically go because of
because of X, it's y when it could be a B, C, D, E,
F g H. You know the whole thing. You know,
it's just it's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
If you got this measure. If you hit your tail
light out and then they smell wheat, then they're going
to search the car right now. I mean they might
still kind of but like still it's like.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, but it's gonna have to be really clean and
for like it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Correct because like weird coup for the tail, But why
do you need to search? You know, like you're gonna
help with a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, carsons, Yeah, and not all like I said, and
my dude, I've been pulled over where the cop was
like legitimate, just like here's your ship, here's your ship.
And it was like all right bye, Like.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It's all cops.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I just protect you from the ones trying to abuse
the law.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
So that's right, not all cops are.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
No. I'm just trying to say laws like this aren't
trying to hold back to people doing their job. Because
if it's obvious and they're like drinking while they're driving,
you're still getting take it. If you're like smoking a
blood and you like run into a stop sign and
you go, you know, I mean you're gonna get this.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Doesn't mean like smoking your car and be cruising, just
states that like it protects you.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You have laws that protect you rather than laws that
are helping the law. That's my point.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
But yeah, I mean, like Cannady said, we had an
event last weekend. We won't get too in depth, but
you want to talk about it a bit, Yeah, real quick.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I just want to give a shout out to uh
Jeremy he does the CVD company BC Organics, but also
throws the event to seven Ly Forwards is out at Harbor.
Shout out to all the winners.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Especially Summer in Scotty. I gotta shout them out because
a little biased, but Summer is our co host and
Scotty is one of our partners, So shout out to
the fam.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I can't believe they both want us super extact for
both of them. It was a cool moment to be
a part of it. We were really a part of
it by doing interviews at the ending of all the winters.
So we interviewed all the winners. You'll see a little
rotation of Broovie. You'll see a rotation of me, a
little rotation of summer.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And all and all is a great venue, great experience.
Like we were gonna have Jeremy and Joel on and
do it in depth talk because I want them to
talk about the whole experience, you know, because there was
good aways, giveaways, there was food really nice. But I
loved it, Like I think the entivery bite I was
h This guy was like fantastic. I love the oil

(34:52):
on the potatoes. It was silly.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I could not talking about the food the whole time.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Jesus bro was no, no, no, no, They did not
say that, but it was just like with his face,
he big relax like it's food. Like, yeah, either way,
let them talk about it all show all the teams involved.
We'll talk about all the categories. It was a really
cool time. And yeah, shout out to them because it
was really fun experience. Love loved doing those post interview things.

(35:17):
Man doing that producer bro like it was tough and like,
we'll talk about it more with them, but it was
just a lot of work. Yeah, Like it was like
boom boom, boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Night was over and I appreciate everything he did for us. Yeah,
where we had our logo in the box, which she
probably sawned, our story we had, we got our logo
on the band, and then he even gives a couple
of shotouts during the speeches.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So yeah, dude, we got a clap. That was cool.
Shout out to everyone who clapped. Yeah, I appreciate was like, thanks,
Cass was like I was like, I was like.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I was talking.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I don't know how to take comments that well, like
I'm not. I appreciate it. I listen, just working on
in therapy. I've just ever been good at that part
because I really felt great at that moment. I just
don't know what to do with it, right, I just
really appreciate it. That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Excally, months are peers. So that was very cool.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Feel very humbled.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, so I appreciate all.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You're very honored because, like I just we're just trying
to like do our thing. You know, you never know
what people see. No appreciate all the supporters because behind
the curtains are tough a lot of days behind the
real curtains, So coming here and doing this and smiling
is just like it does make my day better, but
it's still tough some days. So I appreciate all the

(36:30):
support because you know, this campus industry is tough. You know,
there's a lot of shit still wrong with it. It
is hard to get interviews. People will ghost you, people
won't pay. It is a It is a crazy industry
to be involved in.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
People are driving prices left and right. That's how we
appreciate all the one that I appreciate everyone that came
up to us too at the event and it was like, hey,
we appreciate what you're doing. Love what you're doing, like
all the compliments and everyone I didn't get to talk to,
I'm sorry I didn't get the immediately. There was a
bunch of other people there. We got there, we set up,
took us about an hour to set up, and then
it was pretty much just we had thirty minutes. We
mingled briefly, did did Dad from Mojo shout out to

(37:04):
them for the honey Hole as well, and then boom,
it was dinner and then we were busy for us
in the night. So it was it was fun. I
just wish I had more time.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
But I'm excited to learn about the whole process from
Jeremy and Joel like how they did the voting, the
whole process from start to finish, because doing an event
like that is a lot of work. We've talked about
doing our own event, but after doing our first event,
we were like, all right, let's uh that's you know,
events are tough. It's not necessarily me and David's field house,
but we will. Again, it's just but.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
No, I know you'll want it. We will. We'll probably
have someone else set it up because it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
It's just a lot, So respect to Jeremy and Joel.
Can't wait to break it all down. Yeah, speaking of events, man,
it's summer, springtime. So it's summer. I mean it's it's
event time in Michigan. Man.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, yeah, you had you had that event last weekend.
I think you had a ream last weekend, Uh, twenty sixth,
like the twenty six April, you had a third eye
the week before that. At this week, tomorrow May first
is Michigan Mad's Growers Gala. He was on last week.

(38:07):
We were talking about the gala. The piety will be open,
so it should be the coolest time over there.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, it should be fun.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, I saw a house it's.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It's local to me, so it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah no, no, I actually really like the venue and
how they do that there persons. There's not more people
trying to go out there for events within Cannabis, is
what I'm trying to say. It's a cool spot.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Man, because it's cool music spot. So for using it
for that reason, absolutely use the patio this time.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's gonna be sick. So I just got an idea.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
But yeah, I know, And actually because Dave said that,
we're not sure, but we might try to do some
stuff at that event. So if you're going to that event,
check out our story and stay tuned to our story.
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
If it works, we're going to.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
See have some idea.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
If I'll be the next one because it might be
up quick.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
They don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
They don't care, true, they really don't. They don't. I
always care.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So that's boyah I'm bringing that.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh yeah, I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah, ooh yeah.
I can see a stream being called that like Blueberry
Trade Mike, Mike, Yeah, Blueberry Across with something that something

(39:21):
that just has what za za blue.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I don't know, there's there we go.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
All right. On that note, yeah, jump, that.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Was a lot of stuff going on. There's always stuff
going on, guy, we got to just catch up.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh, house a Dank has an anniversary on five seventeen,
because Summer was staring that, so that's.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
You always got to share summers events.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I think they're doing giveaways. It's center line, eight miles
and four if I'm not missaying a center line and
eight mile the two ones. For sure, they'll have giveaways,
bags and all this stuff. I think it's like their anniversary,
so that'll be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
And and Big Cloud announced that they're doing the Organic.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Cup and Detroit Year a Cut, which I'm interested in.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Pretty cool, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
That's like June twenty eighth or something. So like events
are piling up. You have me Connect Puff, which is
like that week as well, like June twenty fifth or
the twenty fourth or something like that.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
They're back.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I think it's the only event of the year. If
I'm not mistaken, I think he's just doing one.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
It is it is, and he puts it on. I
mean he's doing that the Linking Factory again.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Probably man, Like I say, I get it. We had
a cool off for a couple of weeks because I
have some personal stuff that I couldn't. I mean, I'm
still not one hundred per so I get it, man.
I mean Harry's a busy guy too. He's got other
adventures too. I mean he connect Puff is something he
does for the businesses in the in the metric, and
I think it's a great networking experience. I think everyone
gets from it.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So it is.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I agree you one two three, You're still gonna put
People are still gonna come because it's people are gonna
appreciate it. A lot of business gets made.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
That's facts, man, that's facts. I got to check out
our episode last week. We had Michigan Mad on just
Matt and then we'll be live this Saturday. Tune in
nine am. We'll have a new episode for y'all next Wednesday.
Other than that, just say tune in the socials. If
you're at the event on Oh yeah, if you're event
on Thursday, hit us up. We'll be there. Let's smoke

(41:16):
chat again. Shout out to ye, Shout out to the partners.
Want to kick off at last Coast Planet Therapy use
called Mike Cana twenty. Seriously, I'm gonna continue saying this
until you guys are like, stop, but use the spray.
You can even use it on your household. Plants kills,
kills everything, and it's organic, right, that's right, groovy. I
use it all the time.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Between two cups.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Shout out to Kinship where the turpenes thrive, go check
them out, and albeing if you want to check out
some of their collapse. They had the donuts with superb
so that was pretty good. Shots to Canady again and
Scottie and the team over there again. Then their win
at the High Night the Seven Leaf Awards. High Night,
the Seven Leaf Awards. Yeah no high Dine's next use

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So that's good that those teeth, that's right, that's right.
And then shout out to Smoking Tomatoes Dairy Do. Last
week we were posting the story about growing the plant sore.

(42:21):
I'm testing right now.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Test yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
We'll see how it grows, how the buds look, taste,
and smell. At the end of it, we'll see we'll
run it probably again too, but we're using that super
soil that they have one bag. And then give a
shout out to Jason Old School Organics where theyre one
hundred percent organic living soil, hand watered similar to how
I grow. And also they do retro and old school
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(42:45):
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Grover Able though, put in work when we're able to
do this, so research products and go places. Yeah, so
we appreciate.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
We haven't done reviews in a while because life's been crazy,
but we we've been talking about doing bringing them back,
so they we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
They will be back, and stay tuned. We're gonna be
doing something with our Patreon, so if you're following us
all the time, we might be putting stuff up there,
so stay tuned. What do I know, Groovy knows it all.
But other than that, I appreciate you all listening. I
hope you have a great rest of your week. I'm
recording this on Monday. Go Pistons, please win. I hope
I can repeat this and go, Hey, we're down three

(43:22):
to two, we're going into Game six and Detroit. If
not that sucks fun go Pistons tonight and trying.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
To get a sportsman in I'll cut your mic.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
No, I need I need it. All right, well, and
as always, we're here to advocate, educate, and inspire to
Next time, y'all base