Viridis and Uplyfted Donut

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yeah, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to another said, wakem
big with mechanic ass. But we're recording so late that
it's a night sah. Oh my god, it's an episode.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Jesus, just a podcast man, and I'm groovy.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well on bad note, Yeah, we got a fun episode
for y'all. We're gonna be diving into a donut review
from Uplifted.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Which I would say is actually kind of on the
value side. You know, we picked up a couple of reviews,
but we'll get in there later. It's it kind of
fascinating to see that donuts have dropped to where there's
value donuts now value donuts. I like it.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I like value donuts. I mean, we like donuts. We
split them up here and there, so I can't complain
on that. I'm also gonna be diving into Brittius is Gone.
We're gonna talk about that news and then articles to
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into this review over here, groovy or start off for
the review, Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
He was like, I need to get you didn't mention
that they didn't smoke much.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I haven't smoked. That's why I was like, how did
I mess that up so bad? I was like, we're
walcome to nordwag Baker.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I like how that you're blaming things on your sori
Like most people are like, yo, I'm too fucked up.
This guy's like, yo, way too sober to be doing it,
to be talking like you haven't been talking all day.
So I think it's something about like as soon as
Dave Ken is able to smoke weed, if he isn't high,
he's like mad. Like either way, we're about to get

(01:58):
Dave Liddy.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think these lights are a little hot right now,
but whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, So we're gonna be diving into this grape gas
and Canal street runs infused pre roll so and while
we're doing this, I'm also gonna be doing some POV
with the meta rae Bans. You've probably seen some of
the content on our stories so, like I said, we're
gonna be reviewing the grape gas grape gas in Canal
Street runs. And this is by Uplifted And this is

(02:25):
their donut live Rosin infused. It is one point two
grams of flower point three grams of hash rosin right
here looking good. You can see groovings here looking at
the lights. But yeah, I'm they don't have much on
the turps. I wish the turpenes were listed. Doesn't got

(02:47):
much on it overa I'll probably give it this normal
eight packaging probably seven. Actually on the packaging here you
go groovy and then we have taste ash, middle heinefact,
price and R and R. So if you've been paying
attention to some of our andy, we all back. So

(03:12):
just dove into the packaging groovy. I give it a seven.
There's not too much on there. Like that goes like, hey,
your terrapenes, I didn't see if it had like what
was what unless you see it on there? I didn't
see that, like we.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, I mean so I didn't really have time to
pull it up because I was trying to fix your light.
But uh so I have the have it all pulled up.
Uplifted Donut grape Gas cross with Canal Run Street runs.
The one thing I am a little disappointed in is
I is I wish that I knew which one was which.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, I agree with you. That's so that's one thing
I wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Then it doesn't have anything listed about terpenes, which is
kind of a bummer. But it does actually have the
THCA which is fifty five point three five, the THT
it's forty eight point ninety six and zero CBD.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It does tell you to what at one point two
and point three At least with that, I gave it
a seven. Pretty basic. I mean, if they they expanded
a little bit, it wouldn't be bad. But I mean,
nice hand rolled joint. Doobi are there? I didn't even
see the QR coats. Maybe there might be some turbs.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, I think it's just a for the for the store.
Yeah yeah, it's just for the store. Okay, Yeah, yeah,
I mean I'm right there with you. It's kind of
just basic packaging, you know, no real cross. I mean,
really not a lot nice.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It kind of reminds me of almost like a cigar.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I guess he So that's cool.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
So I give it a seven. Like it's not the worst,
but yeah, let's dive into the review. So we like
this light this up, be excited to smoke some weed.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
And they've kind of touched on it earlier. But we
have different categories in which that we use that we
kind of just go through and starting off with taste.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, so for us with this one.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
These ones are weighted differently, and I believe.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Correct tastes fifteen, we go to ash fifteen, Middle, ten
and ten, high and effects fifteen, Price ten and then
R and R and fifteen. That's what we have today.
We might readjust some of these ratings as we go forward,
and we've talked about that for some of our other categories.
That's what we have right now. I grabbed it from
actually one of our other sheets. So I'm excited. I'm

(05:30):
curious what is going to be what it was great
gas and Canal Street runs right, curious if.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
One thing? We really didn't get too much into it,
but I'm just gonna jump in it now because it
takes forever for your donut to get lit, especially we're
so perfectionate at it. But I want to get into
the price a little early so we have something to
talk about. What I think is fascinating about this donnut
that was only twenty five dollars. That's pretty crazy for
a donut. I mean regardless, I mean usually just for
the role itself, people were paying more than that back

(05:57):
in the day. I mean some people. If I were
like some of these one point two point threes, when
they have higher quality stuff, they still charge like fifty
bucks sixty bucks even at full price. I think it
was only thirty thirty five, but it was on sale
for twenty five. And I honestly at this dispensary they
went to over by me playing fifty nine. It always
has different deals, so you got to kind of just
shop the deals around.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I'm curious how fresh it was. I never even moved.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
About three months.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It was like May eighth, Well that's pretty good then
too for the price. That's what was My next thing
was like, is it just because Yeah? No, I mean, honestly,
I think you're right value donuts. But I believe if
I'm not missing.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
People want donuts, man, But it's hard to spend fifty
sixty dollars on one smoke man, especially because all the
donuts are by yourself. We saw one even cheaper for
twenty dollars. Yeah, we were, and we were going to
get We're going to get the cheapest of the cheap,
but this one was for five dollars more. So we're like, oh,
you might as well get a brand of wax that
I like.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, we've tried their wax, so we've a still been
pretty good in the past. I haven't had any of
their products recently. It's been probably like this probably the
first product that I happen for them this year. To
be honest, I wish I knew what was the flower.
I'm pretty sure that.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm not really getting a heavy runs taste.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I think it more than grape That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So that's what I was kind of, you know, elimination.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So my my thing is, I'm curious if on the
sheets grape Gas is the flower and then Canel Street
is the rosin, like if they do that, like they
label it order, Yeah like that. I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
It'd be nice to just have like Apprentice f Prentcy
yeah r r.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, something that you could just let the people know,
Like I mean, I know I'm not the only one
that would like to have, like to know the difference
between it between, like.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Maybe it is a little runsy. See now I'm getting
runs taste after I hit it a few times. But
I don't know if that's maybe the flowers starting to
like the ross is starting to hit, or if it's
because I'm starting to taste a flower and Alex were
passed just the paper part. I don't know, correct. I mean,
it's starting to get a run taste.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And you're starting to see a little bit of a
hash oil line right there.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean for twenty five dollars. Dude, back in the day,
you couldn't find a Dona under fifty bucks, you know,
so the fat even with the point three because people
with the point three you'd be like, oh, it's better,
it's better hash or whatever, right, Yeah, And I mean, dude,
when you think about how much it's probably costs of
the rosin versus a flower, I mean it's like, I'm
almost like, how are they making money? Like, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
But well, if they're vertically integrated, I mean you you
can definitely do that.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, I guess yeah, if you also roll in house
and everything too.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
As you kind of have to compete in the market
though the market's so cutthroat right now, Like right now,
you want to probably take just a couple of bucks props.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So I want to talk about price early on that
because I feel like this would be such a discussion,
is that these value rosin donuts? Man, when you're talking
like a quick concert smoke and you're talking about other
buzzes and stuff like this might be the way to
go in some way. And we've been seeing donuts even
drop lower and lower. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
What'd you give it for taste? It's hard to give
taste yet until I hit the rosin, it looks like
it's adjust hit And that might have been the runs
that we were starting.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
To hard to taste it. So maybe it is the
runs ros y. Yeah, because it was starting it tastes
a little. I didn't really get get great, but I
got like a little ass like notes and then when
I started getting runs. But they're definitely complimentary, which is surprising,
but I really like them together. Doesn't taste that bad.

(09:14):
I mean, I taste. I told you I tasted the
runs immediately. So if anything, I can say whatever the
runs in it is good. Whether that's the flower of
the rossin, you know, I don't know if I get
crapy so much. But I definitely got a strong runs
taste right when we started in that rosin. So either
I'm starting to taste the flower that's runs rosin, you're

(09:35):
running a little bit, yes, right, kind of bad, kind
of bad. I think i'd give it like a twelve
thirteen on the taste because I actually do like the
runs he taste if we're just going off taste, because
it wasn't horrible. It wasn't great at first, but it

(09:57):
wasn't horrible, you know what I mean. So it was
like right there at like that ten. But then when
the Rosin started hitting, it kind of got some bonus
points from me, and I like that runs he taste, so.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'll great there with you. Honestly, it's pretty they'd.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Be like a twelve because I wouldn't say it's like
that next level, because I might even go down to
eleven and a half. But the reason why I think
I'm giving it that twelve is because I like that
runs taste. It's flowers not as great as the rosin.
That's all I can say. Yeah, I would agree, but
we'll see because now look at it's like I don't
have to see him there and you gotta remember, we

(10:31):
only spent what twenty five bucks, but we have been
seeing him for cheaper, so like realistically, like we've gotten
full sized doughnuts forty thirty, but they're old on zale.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, ash, I mean overall pretty good. You got a
light oil line clean ash still taste like runs to
me too. Over Yeah, the middle still smoke good. It
was starting to run, but it kind of slowed down
a little bit after I look that.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sometimes that happens too with Rosin, Like I've noticed, it'll run,
but then Rosen will kind of keep it balanced a
little bit more. I don't know if that's the slower burn,
like the resumeation. I don't know, but just watch that
though you might want to leave, it turns bad as real.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
And that's the thing too, though, when you when it
is of when you buy Elliot and he like you
said that, you pay twenty twenty five for it, maybe
twenty eight thirty out the door and it runs, it's
not as bad as that when you buy a fifty
sixty dollars thing and that runs. Man, that's like the
honest worst thing in my opinion for a donut. I'd
rather have it taste bad than run because when it runs,

(11:33):
it just burns so quick, and I feel like it
tastes bad already.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I would disagree, but I hear you like, I would
rather taste good than if it goes out. Then just
be like, well, I won't buy that again because it
wasn't rolled well, you know, that's the thing. If it's
not rolled well in a donut, sometimes the taste and
all that stuff, like you said, you just won't buy
it again. It's not necessarily like yea, So it's yeah,

(12:01):
ten out of ten honestly, like eight, I'm actually pretty impressed.
It's staying pretty solid, which could just be the Rozent
like tail or like line.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's good. What kind of we're gonna affects you feeling?
Right now? I've got like a more mellow, mellow relaxation.
But also I mean, yeah bad, but also I'm like
pretty exhausted on the day, so it's just it's chill, right, Yeah,

(12:37):
it's very mellow.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm really feeling any anxiety,
which is nice from a smoke, So it's mellow.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, no paranoia feel from this, which I wouldn't mind.
Like honestly, I mean this this would be.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Like a really good smoke, That's what I'm saying. I
actually like the way they're complimentary, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
They did well on the match, the great gas and
the runs. I prob I give a high en effect.
I'm kind of liking it. I make twelve fifteen Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, I feel you. I feel you. I'm I'm at
like a twelve too, Like I feel like, I don't
knowfinit athlete's like super duper strong, but I feel really calm,
like relaxed. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some
linole a little somewhere in here, but maybe not, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Definitely some lina little maybe humanly chilling.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But I am zoning out a little bit too, you
know what I mean. I'll be like, what were we
talking about?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
What are we smoking?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, there'll just be like moments where we're just not speaking.
We're like, oh, yeah, this is an audio podcast. We
should probably talk. You can't can't hear our thoughts.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
To listen to my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
See, but look at though, look at you were complaining.
But I lit it a little bit. It's catching itself
back up as you smoke it.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
No, no, I was.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I was a little like nervous for a second, but no,
it came back, came back nervous.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's hilarious. A little serious, bro, This candidate takes this
ship super serious. I know, I haven't enjoyed a smoke
with Dave since we review everything, even all fair o.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm stuck too.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
But yeah, no, it burns pretty well. I honestly think
the flavor maybe's getting a little harsher towards that last hit,
but I mean it's probably only because the rozin's running out,
and maybe the flower is a little drier. I don't know.
It's the only thing I could say, yeah, be critical on,
But outside of that, it was actually a pretty enjoyable smoke,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
What did you give it for a price?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, dude, for twenty five bucks and we each
threw fifteen bucks out the door. It's not bad at all, man,
I don't know. Sure, I'm curious what that twenty dollars
one tasted like, but also the reason why I didn't
do that, and we will next time. I feel the
compann and I will just try it. But it's like
I've had other products by the company. I was a
little wary, so for five dollars more. You know, that's

(14:49):
kind of why I got this, because I still consider
twenty five dollars a value. Don't know, and I think
it was thirty or thirty five. I can't remember, like
full price, but man, if you just wait one day,
usually the next day on tail, you know, it's like,
I don't know, but so either way, we got it
for twenty five, you'd probably find it around your place
for maybe thirty thirty five, but like, it's still a
good solid deal.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm assuming you could probably find it for twenty five
to thirty in most places. I feel like playing fifty nine, it's.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Competitive, Well, they're competitive everywhere. Everywhere else is gonna be
competitive to that price within five bucks, maybe ten if
you go somewhere like you said, off the beaten path,
but it smoked pretty cooming. I honestly feel like the
off my brain it passed.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah no it did. Uh R and R sounds like yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah I would. I'm actually like because again for me,
like a twenty five say, I'm like in a crazy
mood like this is more affordable and for a personal donut,
this is way more enjoyable. Where if I was smoking
a big hashol to my dome. Somewhere in the middle,
I'd be like, I don't know if I need this anymore,
Like you know what I mean, you'd max out, which
is cool. It's fun donuts to the dome, but at
the same time, like I always end up passing donuts,

(15:49):
like I've even tried. I remember in Pennsylvania, I brought
the specific donuts to Donut to do the dome, and
I was just like, what's the point. I'm gonna be
so high in like ten five minutes that it's like
I'm gonna want to as it. So I love donuts
to share, and this has burned pretty long. I mean
it's been like about a fifteen minutes smoke. Yeah, let's pass,
and that's you and me going back and forth the

(16:10):
pace that we do.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
So so yeah, shut out. Uplifted pretty solid donut, Like
I think I think I think we might have reviewed
one of these before, but I think that's back when
donuts were expensive and this was still more like forty
fifty bucks. If this was fifty bucks, I went in't
you know, in comparison to the bigger joints, more and
more Rozent you're like, well, why would I pay. It's
like right end that night, and it was probably.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Between seventy eight and eighty depending.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
On I would just pass it only because I actually
enjoyed the smoke. I got a good buzz.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I would pass it.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It was a good over Yeah, I know it's tear chattering,
but you know I would.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, over allmost of it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Good choice when I say it's the best ever in
the world. No, but like it's good, Like I think
if you the flowers will drive them up. Overall, definitely, Well,
I think we'reth the money.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Good job upliftings. I'm gonna talk about donuts real quick.
So the reviews over but overall I think that that's
I think we might start seeing more of this, you
know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I never saw anything
for twenty even the twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Want to say, what, Yeah, that's point three roz And
you're like, what, like back in the day, that's what
would cost. Yeah, I know it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
So I'm like, so like, what the heck?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But then like the role, that's what I'm saying, Like,
if you don't roll on house, that's a cost too.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah. No, no, absolutely absolutely. But here's the thing though,
in my opinion, it's got it. The role is key,
Like obviously I said it during the review. I think
they'll caught itself back up. Yeah, you know, we had
to like play some tricks, but whatever. Overall, I mean,
it did, it did well. You know, I shouldn't have
let it burn as much as I did, but I
had to to get it to go. But I think
I me and you try donuts all the time, honestly,

(17:42):
and I would you like preference? Do you like that
like the one point two flower point three or do
you like the two grammar to half gram.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
If I'm sharing with someone, for sure, the two grammar.
But I feel like this is plenty for a personal
even so, like if I smoked this to the dome
by the end, I'd be like, I mean, so it's
kind of one of those things like what is necessary,
And that's what I was trying to say, Like if
I'm going by myself to like a concert or something
twenty five dollars, maybe I'm gonna treat myself have a
nice donut to the dome, you know what I mean?
Like because otherwise, like I guess it depends on how

(18:14):
I want to smoke right because for about that price, Mo,
you can go, dude, you can get like a five
pack of minies right for about thirty bucks. Because I
did this recently, and it's like, if you're gonna go
smoke all night, if you're just smoking with people who
just like to smoke flower, you know, and not get
like real high. I get it just by the you know,
I literally just did this otherday. I just bought those
Prepags's perfect. Someone like this. This is kind of like
a little cat like a little fancy smoke. And that's

(18:36):
why I like the donuts because it makes you feel like, ooh,
you know, on the go twenty five bucks. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
So yeah, I'm four. I'm pretty much similar with you
with the statement that like the two in a point
half Graham Rizon by myself, I mean norm off.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Ahead of this forever with this mini there's one point
two fives whatever it is, one gram to point two
five whatever. The minis were, the half sized ones. I
think I think the issue or the thing is now
is that now it's like the price is where it
needs I feel like everyone's before everyone was like, well
we might as well just spend the extra fifteen twenty
bucks for the bigger one. You know, it's like the
costco idea, just buy a little more, save money, right,

(19:15):
you know, just buy the bigger one, have you know,
throw it down. But so, yeah, I don't know. We'll
see how it goes. I think I think donuts are
I mean, they're just here to stay. I don't think
everyone does them because a lot of people are still
down to what's value. But now you're getting donuts into value.
You might bring those two consumers together.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
You know, what's going to be next in the future.
Donut packs, three packs at Donuts, six packs, half a dozen,
full dozen?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
What are you just upping this for me? Like you
think I'm going to react differently? Like no, He's like, yeah,
a dozen. Who's going to hide a dozen?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Don't No, one guaranteed price will be at a certain
level one day.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I mean, like two hundred dollars for a dozen or
one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'd be luxury, but like half a dozen people would
buy or three maybe half a dozen people who like
it six because you probably have such a deal on
it too.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Just think about it, Just think about it, he says,
just think about it, Okay, if I could do it,
it'll be dope. Well, we got a couple of articles
we were going to talk about this. First one's actually
kind of neat. I you know, I'm not a scientist,
but I want to report this news, so I'm gonna
still you know, we're still gonna talk about it here
cause it is fasting. Oh of course, as soon as

(20:25):
I click it, the little billboard pops up. All right,
but it says rare flava alkaloids discovered in cannabis leaves
and lock hidden medicinal potential. I read through this article. Essentially,
what it's saying is, like we've talked about flavonoids and terpenes,
they're talking about in flavonoids there are they have found
amongst three They were just sussing three plants. So one

(20:47):
of these strains they found something called the flava alkaloid,
which to me sounded like a flavonoid that has alkaloid
of prophecy properties. So they say this can open up
medicinal potential. What made me frustrate it is not once
in the article does it say what strain it was. Yeah,
So that was like, oh, okay, cool, I'm really glad
I read through this, but this was really recent. I
don't necessarily know what that means. I wish we had

(21:10):
some scientists to break it down, but I did want
to bring it up because when you say rare whatever
found in cannabis plants, I'm like, well, that's exciting because
maybe this can unlock something. Granted, this article's brand new.
I don't know too much about chromatography today. You know either, guy,
But they said identifying seventy nine phylolic feet. I can't

(21:33):
say it follic compounds. It costs three strains, and of them,
the findings highlight on tap bio biomedical potential of cannabis
beyond cannabinoids, and point valuable to pharmaceutical applications via this.
So maybe this flava alkaloid is using some other type
of medicine. If it could be dry via cannabis, maybe
there's a It looks like it's just from like the leafs.

(21:56):
Yeah yeah, not even but think about it. There's just
more proof that this planning magical. Dude. Yeah, it is
more more unlocked potential and ship that you're not even using,
you know what I'm saying. So it's just crazy to me,
like it's just never ending in some money plan.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Now imagine once we opened up research everywhere, what we're
gonna find.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I wonder if that's why they're not putting the strain out,
because they're like, we're gonna make sure this is legit
and then no one takes our money first.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, I mean yeah, think about that, like everyone's wanting
to grow that strain for that.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Specific if if it's true, and like I said, articles.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Benefits are actually like maybe.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like I think the article came out like ten hours
ago or some ship.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It was an anti accident, anti inflammatory and anti carcentergic
properties were the one that was so like, I don't know.
I mean that's it's it's.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Just showing you that we don't we've because especially because
the research is so minimal, we still haven't even un
tapped all this potential. Man, we figured everything.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Else in the Western Cape providence of South Africa. There
comists from Stellenbosch University.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Okay, so there it is from a credible university. I
just I'm saying it's fast the first.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
That cannabis leaves continue.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Honestly, that's probably why.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
This coupound zone is flav and alkinoids.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But this is probably why the research got done because
it's not here.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's just crazy because in Africa Africa, but Leo mud
South Africa.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean it's gored be for research. We don't know.
We don't know research, and I think South Africa is
its own thing, like law wise, I'm not sure. I
don't I don't know either way. Fashionating and the cool
to see it because even if we got to do
it somewhere else to push other scientists. This is how
it works though one scientist has an idea and the
other ones are like, let's try that.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean, sot and and I
can't wait for more research to open on man, like
this is pretty interesting because what measure? What else we're
gonna figure out? We've been saying this for years on this.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
What if like the roots in cannabis can be like
chewed for like a mouth, and people do bake their.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Roots and stuff and make topicals and stuff. Yeah, like
I just sound the branches now.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I was going with my point, but the whole point
was something in the Yeah, what if there's something in
the plant in a park that we haven't thought of,
because like the leaves is looked at as just like
extra you know, like families.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Like imagine if you give cure dementia or cancer all timers,
we don't know, we'll say it's unknown.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And then that's what's gonna be interesting too, because once
you start seeing more people start growing like high CBD
or high CBG or high c cbn, you give out
over time from the cannabis. But like you get these
plants that are growing all these different canvinoids. Imagine the
research we're going to figure out from that, Like that's
just what a hot Like what what's the five percent
CBG do to like the body, you know, when you're

(24:30):
smoking that or taking the top or taking tinctures or
vape of it.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You know, I don't know. I mean, cannabis research iss
been held back for years from all this propaganda. So
we're just now tapping into it what we should have
tapped into like eighty two hundred years ago. But hey,
you know researchers, you know, well technologies where it's at
too now, So now it'll be exponentially quicker that it
would have been back then. Anyways, so it's all good.
I just you know, But anyways, I thought this was
fascinating real quick. Over it's a news update, I guess,

(24:57):
but I thought it was just kind of fascinating because
in Scotland they found a one point three million dollar
cultivation with also one point seven million dollars worth of drugs.
Just thought that was cool. I was talking about canon
are not cool, that's not the right word. I thought
that was fascinating because like what one point three million
dollars It was like in city center in a town
in Scotland, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, excuse me, Yeah, it's like in

(25:21):
city center. So you're thinking, like when I think city center,
I think that's downtown, right, That's what europe calls are
downtown's right, So like that's like someone growing that just
in downtown Detroit, like or downtown Chicago. Like I'm just
picturing someone like clearly looks like a normal building and
it's just like like that's you know, it's not like
in the middle of the country like in a farmhouse
where like oh yeah, okay, and that makes sense. That's

(25:43):
why that was so funny about this is this dude
that one point three million dollars or the weed just
in in the city center, Like people, how do you
not smell it? Like you know what I mean? Like
I don't good for him, I guess. So that's why
I was like, it was a short article, but I
was like, I want to share it because it's still
trapping other places.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, weed's getting smoked all around the world, yes sir, Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And then so jump over to Pennsylvania med legalization fight,
so it's not the med in legalization for I'm talking
Pennsylvania med and then the legalization fight. So the PA
med they were essentially in this article. They were looking
inside of Pennsylvania at Pennsylvania medical marijuana facilities as lawmakers
go and like see how legit it's going to be

(26:27):
right there, Like all right, let's see what you got here.
It's fascinating because they're medical over there, and they're in
the facility that they went to actually double checks, they're testing.
They do two different places. So I was like, that's
pretty crazy, and it's like they're completely sterile. So it's like,
you know, it's just fascinating that each plant is expected
and lab tested twice during the process to make sure

(26:47):
there are no toxins and the TG levels are appropriate. Meanwhile,
here we're having the issues that we're going to talk
to in a little bit with inflation stuff. So I
just think it's fascinating and they even that they want
to and like, I think they're on the right track.
And the reason why I brought up is it's a
bipartisan bill. I thought that was fascinating. So essentially it's
I think a democratic bill, but this person named something Major,

(27:11):
Abby Majors, is a Republican and it's partnering with the
Democrats on the bill that aims legalized adult cannabis. And
Abby Mayor later in the Major, later in the article
says essentially essentially saying that it's basically legal here, saying
that it is medical everywhere, like, and they're surrounded by

(27:31):
legal states because if you think about Pennsylvania, that's Ohio.
I don't think we bore them at all. New Jersey
and I can't remember who's blow and above them, but anyways,
but they're surrounded by states, so essentially people are coming
in with it too, so they're like trying to get
ahead of it. But I just love when things are
bipartistan because it shows you cannabis is a bipartisan thing
and is not a left right center backwards forward thing.

(27:54):
It is it is everyone smokes weed man, you'll see
a doctor smokes and weed and you'll see a plumber
smokes me. I don't know. That was just the two
dynamics that I could like hard working people, but just
a blue collar white car right, so to me, I
don't know. That just shows it to me.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, no, no, I absolutely agree with that. But when
you're seeing left right come together for an issue that's
been so negatively impacted for years, over like the last
ten years, we're finally seeing it move on in a
better direction in some areas, obviously not fully, but with
this it's good because you actually seeing people come together
and that that's what it's that's that's what it's supposed

(28:33):
to be. You're supposed to work for the people. And
when you see other states legalizing it, yeah, be smart.
You're missing out on taxi when you always want so
much money for the states making money. But then then
also you're making you're going progressive and you're and you're trying,
you're slowly trying to end the war on drugs by
getting rid of cannabis.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well and also too if people are forced to risk
these things just for some cannabis or all these things,
like like in my brain like doesn't that look bad
when you have people getting charged with these things too?
Like it's not good either, Like it's just like you're
messing with your citizens that don't need to be messed with.
So I think what the major person is just saying
is like, come on, man, it's heading this way. Yeah,
Like what are we gonna do? Especially because how far

(29:10):
is Pennsylvania from Michigan? Really a few hours?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Like you know you come to the audio too, right, right,
if everywhere is legal around you, people are leaving the
state picking up.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well I'm saying, hey, Ohio is right there, but they're
not at the level we are. So I mean you
you really, if someone's trapping in Pennsylvania, they'll just drive
to Michigan.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's not value New York honestly is in New York.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Though it depends on where you're in Pennsylvania. Man, we're
only three hours from Pennsylvania, but then I drive four
half hours all the way through, butup like three hours
hours it's a.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Long Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. So anyways, you'll
be getting the bud wherever you're going to be geting
it no matter what. And at the standpoint, you might
as well try to make tax i.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Just like that quote when Major said that was like
that it's basically all right because they're just like, yeah,
come on, man, we're going that way like the present,
let's get ahead of it.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You're talking about rescheduling the AKA they should edule it.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
But and the festival I play is in Pennsylvania. I
know it's illegal. Like granted, I had my MED card
years ago when I got caught with stuff, so like
they didn't care. But I think if I've been caught
since then, but like they probably wouldn't care, excuse me.
But it's just kind of fascinating to me that it's
still like they're like, come on, man, it's just time.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, come on, let's go. Let's push this through.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Make to make the bread for the state, and then
this is our big topic.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
So super exciting. Man.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
They made a post on this.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, so I saw news finally hit the cra don't
don't what I thought you've.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Been say anything the Cira. What. I don't have anything
to hit it.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
But I know I was gonna hopefully there was no
noise that we give it was, but I was gonna
wait till you said, gotcha the Cira finally finally got
rid of Veridius and threw their owners out of the market.
Cancel the board.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Time sometimes, no second, I don't hate the same but again,
and I'm not just five years, bro, it's been five
years they've been looking at him.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Sorry, but they've been them coming out.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
You're good. I'm just not gonna talk over you.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
It's been so long coming. They finally did something, which
is great to see. Hopefully they don't open up a
new license or rebrand or something, which is something I've heard.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
So give a little background on Verdio and who they are.
There is some there is some drama about who owns
them as well because three of the main owners were
worked in a lab for the police department, so there
was some drama there when Verdias first came out, and
I think some people are like, oh, we don't trust
X cops being in blah blah blah blah blah, which

(31:39):
again I totally hey, totally get that. The CRA banned
them too through this whole process. So let's just talk
about Vertius a little bit of the background. So Todd Welsh,
Gregory Michard, Michelle Glynn, who previously worked for the Michigan
State Police Forensic Science Division. They were three of the
majority owners of Ridias, and essentially people had beef of

(32:00):
cops getting into the cans game because the same people
who were putting them in jail.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
And then there's also the beef of Verdious coming out
of the testing. The big recall that happened.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Years ago where I think it was twenty one.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, it brought two hundred and ninety two million dollars recall.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Sixty four thousand pounds, although it was.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Later reversed by a judge. At that point, it's the
product's garbage, So what does it matter? Right, sixty four
thousand and.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
That was my biggest recall in cannabis history.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
As well as people have been claiming that they could
get people have claimed Verdious and other companies were basically
bloating numbers via request or whatever. Right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Exactly booing numbers you mean it means you sat in
product and they probably had some type of conversation where
you got higher touches alt somewhere.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
We've heard yes and I can't. Yeah, we've heard people yeah,
and that's what I'm saying. You can't release So these
are this is what Verdius was the Michigan market. You know,
make your own judgments, bah ball, But from this order
that Dave brought up and so braid it, which again
I don't know if I'm ever celebrating people getting screwed,
but it's like the company, it's such a bad detrimental

(33:08):
thing to the market. I understood why you were like yeah,
because I was like yeah, because fuck. They basically were
the people who started up bloating the numbers, who all
the other bad players started following suit, and then we
lost good players and good labs because they weren't lying right.
They even brought that up later in the article about yeah,
PSI labs that had to close, right, which is bullshit

(33:29):
because they were just not willing to blow the numbers.
But when people are getting, hey, what numbers you need,
it's like it's almost like a rock and a hard
place for these owners because yes, it's wrong, but how
are they gonna They're gonna have to close their doors?
So it's like everyone's getting screwed from this company bloating
the numbers. So when Verdias shut their doors and this
so this is what it says that they they closed

(33:52):
their they lost their lancing licenses and requires Rita's based
city location to close by September twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. Now,
I'm not sure if we talked about this is that
that may not be all of what they have. They
could come back. But but what what I thought was
fascinating is those three owners I mentioned earlier, Todd Georgillo

(34:13):
or whatever and Michelle Glynn. Uh, they are gone. They're
back back.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
That's good. They shouldn't They shouldn't be if you've been,
if you were cheating doing everything like that, it should
just be a fair playing ground. You know. You have
you have brands that are putting their pride, their effort,
their time, they're all this work into getting a product,
and then they're getting a tested and they're doing it
for a fair price. And then you have other brands
coming in and why does it matter? Because what is
everyone hold? Okay? All right, So yeah, you have all

(34:45):
these brands that are you know, putting putting all this
effort into making sure they have a quality product that
the consumers will go buy in the market, you know.
But then you have like a company like Veridius that's
gonna up the numbers on THC testter res alt, Right,
what do most people buy when they go to the market.
Most people are buying flour based off of the highest
THHC and that's what we just.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Prefer, and that's what we're told.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
So when you have that, and you have other brands
that are getting their stuff tested and maybe it's shown
up a couple percent more or a couple percent less
than what Veridious is, it's making you wonder, like hmm,
like hot. That's why they're That's why they can get
what they want for certain price, and you have to
drop your price because the stores aren't gonna buy it
because your THC percentage is lower compared to another products.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
The thing is a slippery slope. Like it's also for
screwing over the money. It's screwing over the price.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It'screwing over the consumer because the consumer is getting a
fake product that's not tested at that.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And SMC and it's really probably like twenty three.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yep, if it's probably more like eight, I mean not
really eight.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But I know what you're not wrong, but that's what
I was. That's my whole thing is the slippery slope
of Veridios is.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Just and then you have tests that have failed in
the past that they've they've passed multiple times, Like so
it's like, do you really know if you're smoking like
true good quality, clean product at that moment. So it's
like it's so tough to just be like.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Not happy that they're out No, and that I get it.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I get they that I should set people's.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Jobs, get shots. Know what you're celebrating because you're hoping
that maybe the market will balance back out. But I'm
like a little worried that it might be too late
because it's almost like the damage is done. Man, what
Veridi has did was create this consumer who wants thirty
percent or I don't feel high in your head? Right,
So now I think what they That's why I'm like,
as much as I want to like, oh vertious, but

(36:30):
there's they're I almost feel like they were just the first.
There's other labs who've been you know, people have talked
shit about and I'm sure there's other bad players that
we don't know. There's just as many good you know
testers out there, right, yeah, you know. But the thing
is what I'm noticing is is those people, some of
the good people, they have to work twice as hard
for half the customers because they're not willing to bullshit
and lie. So it's yeah, you're forcing a hard thing

(36:53):
in the market, is what I'm saying. You know what
I mean, you really are.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's uh, it's tough and in uh all the brands
and for to do you want to get the best
you want to get the best numbers obviously for your stuff.
So who knows? Who knows what happens in the future
with testing, lambs. You know, if like, like I'm curious,
if everything goes like federal or reschedule, is theres going
to be a certain testing requirement because if it's rescheduled,
I believe it has to be proved medically by cerns,

(37:17):
right if I'm not misake. Yeah, So that would change, right,
and that would change the entire landscape of like everything
in a sense for like testing. So I'm just curious
where testing goes in the future. A year from now,
three years from now, there's probably going to be some
standard eventually, you know that everyone has to follow because
like having companies like this that are able to fix numbers,

(37:39):
that's straight cheating. You're cheating that, you're cheating the entire industry.
You're cheating. You're cheating, like cheating in like baseball, you
get you don't eat like Pete Rows gambled, you know,
and baseball and never got into the Hall of Fame.
Right Like, you're literally cheating and ruining the whole industry
when you're doing stuff like that. So I feel bad
because you are right. There's tons of labs that are
do it the right way, and there's ones that were.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
And it sucks because we have good companies who aren't
willing to do it because they take pride in their work.
But then we don't have some because not everyone's in
it for the passion and the love of it. A
lot of people are some not a lot some people
are in it for the money. And those are people who,
a why would they not cut corners? Already they're already
puting stray packs out, you know. So that's why it's
like almost like, oh, why would you cut corners? But
it's like when you're a competitive business and people dump

(38:20):
hundreds of thousands of dollars and stuff, I think once
you start getting this all this money dumped in, people
are willing to cut some corners because at this point
they're like not willing to lose the money, you know, So,
like I said, it just keeps. It's a slippery slope
of bullshitting that goes all the way down. Yeah, and
at the end of the day, I just don't truly
believe that labs like this have anything but in mind
but just just making money. And that's why it's like,

(38:42):
that's what I'm saying. It's like these bad players are
just going to exist. I think Veridius was just like
the first they out, you know, you know, honestly, you
can't prove anything, and we were told that it was
good on generation was gonna come out by them, and
like nothing ever did. So it's like, yeah, like whatever
at this point, it's kind of like, you know, spilt milk.
But at the same time, it's created a problem for

(39:03):
the market that I'm not sure if it's gonna go
away because now, like what are gonna do all of
a sudden be like, oh they were lying, so twenty
two is what you need now and everyone's bag, you know.
I just I don't know. I don't see how they're
gonna believe it now.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh, I agree, it's it's a good move. I'm glad
this year I did that which is a rare statement. Yeah, shocking.
This was a fun episode. We reviewed the uplifted Donut,
which is a great gas in Canal Street runs. I
believe collab on the Flower.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Rosin which Sorry about no video, but it was really good.
I didn't catch it till halfway through. I forgot I
opened up a streaming project, not a regular project, which
my streaming projects save the vertical. So here we are. Yeah, yeah,
I was sitting there. I go in. Dave's like what,
I'm like, we're almost done with the episode. I realized it,

(39:52):
So here ye are. Hey, it's technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Stuff happens, but good good product. Talked about the what
was it the Flavinac alkanoids. Uh, Groovy came up with
the art and not tend to come up with the
bust In Aberdain with the bud and the drugs. So overall,
jam packed episode, had a good time. Groovy you got

(40:16):
anything you want to say?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
No, I appreciate you. Yeah, check out Groovy music everywhere.
I just released a song you see yesterday yesterday when
this episode comes out, so definitely go check that out
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You can check it out on my Spotify, band camp,
Grand Alliance Music. Listen, Yeah, I appreciate it. If you
guys listened back in the day with Kilo, he's been,

(40:39):
He's in the song, he's immortalized, so it's pretty cool
in the outro and then some sacks and funky stuff.
So that's fun, groovy music everywhere. Am I can of
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Speaker 1 (40:51):
Uh that holiday we can starve. Enjoy your holiday weekend,
be safe. I will have a new episode for you
out next Wednesday as well too. That as always green,
he heard, advocate, educate and inspired. It's the next time
yet base

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Hm