Episode 63 - Jaws (We're gonna need a bigger boat) 50th Anniversary - Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, and welcome to the Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast.
Four guys saying wait a minute, three guys wait, two guys,
and one woman saying You're gonna need a bigger boat.
My name's Matt and my podcasting partners are.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What's going on everyone? It's Rick aka dungeon Master from
the dungeon Master Elite YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right, and joining us tonight, someone who only takes
cash bounties on sharks Hunts from the Classes with Courtney
YouTube channel. It's Courtney Say Hello, Courtney, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hello, thank you very much for having me back on
your show. This is going to be such a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
All right, Courtney, Well, guess what. Joey's not here, Tim's
not here, so it's just the three of us talking
all things that are kind of sharky. You want to
tell our audience what we're talking about tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Absolutely, tonight, we are watching the movie Jaws, number six
hundred and twenty eight from the Book of one thousand
and one Movies You Should Watch Before You Die, Written
by Peter Benchley and Carl Gottlieb, directed by Steven Spielberg,
starring Roy Schneider, Robert Shaw, Richard Dreyfuss, and a twenty

(01:49):
five foot mechanical shark named Bruce.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Fish fish aw friends.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
See Rick, that's how it's done.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I hear you, And she got the director right hey,
But that was easy though. It was Steven Spielberg, right ah.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
And yes, as they say in Finding Nemo, fish are
friends not food. Courtney, before we step away, when was
the first time you saw Jaws?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Man, That is such a hard question, my friend, because
I honestly cannot remember. It was several years ago, though
I remember my brother had seen it before I did,
and at the time I was very squeamish about movies
of this, you know, genre and stuff. Since then, I
have seen many more movies that are way way more

(02:48):
rough around the edges, so to speak. But yes, this
is one of my favorite movies. I wish this is
one of those films I wish I could go back
and watch for the first time ever, because I would
really like to do that. But it's been a long time,
that's for sure, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
All right, Rick, Well, how about you take us back
to when you first saw Shark Week's favorite movie Jaws.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
All right, I'm gonna say what it is, but I'm
also gonna say other things because the first time that
I saw this movie in its entirety was like fifteen
minutes ago. So but there's a but. But I actually

(03:34):
have a lot of memories about Jaws in that not
only have I seen bits and pieces of the movie,
like I know we're probably gonna talk about it, but
I also have experiences with the attraction at the theme parks,
the Jaws the ride at the Universal Studios back when
I was a little more, a little older than a

(03:54):
we barn.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh nice. So my first forer into Jaws. Actually it
was in like reverse order. I think I seen Jaws
three first when I was a little kid, because I
think that was the one that was with Lewis Gossett Junior. Yes,
my recollections a little a little flaky, because you know,
I'm middle aged now and my memory can't remember that

(04:18):
far enough back. But I do know that Jaws I
ended up watching after the after I saw the third one,
and I was really scared of the water. It gave
me that phobia of I don't like not being able
to see my feet in the water. I don't like
that feeling of what's further than what I can see

(04:39):
in open water. I mean, I could be in a
pool all day long, not an issue. But once you
get to the beach and you know you're out to
where you know, you get down under the water and
all you see is darkness, that freaks me out. To
tell you, the first time I saw Jaws, I think
I was like nine ten years old, and I saw
it edited on TV. The whole Alex Kittner scene where
he gets eaten by the shark and you see all

(05:01):
the blood kind of coming up. I didn't see that
that was edited for TV. You just saw the kid
disappear and then everyone was screaming and shouting. But yeah,
watching it for this round of like, oh yeah, that's right,
it was a pretty gory scene when you see blood
churning up. YEP. Definitely a movie that scares the pants
off of little kids.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
If I may, I like to bring up two points
here by all means. First off, my Vocal Theater will
be showing this movie the last week of August, and
I plan on seeing this movie twice on the big screen,
once with my mom and once with a couple friends
of mine. So I cannot wait to see this thing
on the big screen. And the second point I want
to point out is the scene that you were talking about.

(05:41):
The woman that plays the boy's mom. She was saying
on the inside story documentary making of Jaws, which is
very interesting. She said that during that moment, she was
just being herself. She wasn't playing the part, she was
just being herself. And she said that scene literally made
her sick. She's like, it literally could have been happening, right.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah. The realism that Spielberg went on this was rather
awesome and how he did it. Well, let's go ahead
and then dive into the deep waters that is Jaws. Rick.
Since TAM's not here, how about you lay us down
with the synopsis as if you were a local reporter

(06:23):
reporting on the beaches of Amity Island.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
All right, a local reporter. Fore warning, I don't really
do a New York accent, but I'll do my best
to do the reporting accent. So just out breaking news.
What we know is a woman's remains are found on
the South Beach of Amnity Island. It was deemed a

(06:48):
boating accident by local authorities and the beach remained open
to summer beachgoers. Soon after, a local boy, Alex Kittner,
was attacked and killed during a visit to the beach.
Upon further investigation, the cause of death for both victims
were determined to be from a shark attack. Ms Kittner,

(07:12):
the boy's mother, offered a three thousand dollars bounty for
the capture of the killer shark. Amateur shark hunters descend
on a small town, and after one of the hunters
killed a large tiger shark, Mayor Vaughan of Amnity declared
the emergency over and reopened the beach. Oceanographer and itchiologist

(07:39):
Matt Hooper, who was brought to the investigation the shark attacks,
contradicted Mayor Vaughan and declared that the tiger shark was
not the attacker. After discovering a derrelic boat attacked by
the shark in a public daylight attack on South Beach

(08:02):
on July fourth, Mayor Vaughn was forced to declare an
emergency and hire professional shark hunter Quint. At the time,
Quint Matt Hopper and local Chief Martin Brody our spear
hunting a man hunt for a killer shark. We will

(08:22):
provide updates as information become available. Now back to you,
ma'm reviews.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Alrighty well, thank you, traveling correspondent Rick on that wonderful,
wonderful synopsis of the local events happening right now on
July fourth in Amity Island.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Let's see Jaws. Originally, you know, it came out in
nineteen seventy five, So this is the fiftieth anniversary again,
another one of our episodes where we're talking about anniversary films.
So what's interesting about this is this movie is kind
of a watershed moment for filmmakers in the fact that
this kind of lights the fuse on the summer blockbuster tradition.

(09:16):
You know, this movie came out and it was like
number one at the box office for weeks on end.
It was the number one summer blockbuster before a movie
that was released in nineteen seventy seven by Steven Spielberg's
buddy George Lucas took over as the number one film
for a summer break. So I just I thought it

(09:39):
was interesting that here we are We're in the middle
of summer. What better way than to talk about a
summer blockbuster like Jaws. So, just before we dive any
further into the Jaws and the summer blockbusters, would you
guys think that this movie would be considered a summer blockbuster?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Absolutely, it's if you look at the movie as a whole,
it's a great movie. But what more can you want
from a summer blockbuster. It's takes place on a beach,
slash the ocean later. It's a perfect summer movie. It's
one of my picks that I'd go to during the summertime,
along with my Esther Williams films, whenever I'm in a
mood to see some water and swimming, especially on a

(10:20):
hot day. But this is what I'd like to call
like the modern summer blockbuster if it was done by Hitchcock,
because there is a lot of great moments that's like
pure Hitchcocky and it's amazing. But yes, this is a
summer blockbuster.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
How about you, Rick? You think the same thing. Is
this a summer blockbuster for you?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I don't know. I don't really believe in summer blockbuster. Honestly,
I never I don't know. I uh, I think it's
a little bit of propaganda, But there's more to it
than that. So I actually did a little bit of
digging with regard to the like the idea of a
summer or blockbuster and and yeah, I mean it seems

(11:04):
as though like before this, I mean, they didn't movie
productions didn't think that it would be a good idea
to release it right over the summer because there'd be
no one there to watch it. So aside from the
trend changing from people wanting to go to the movies

(11:24):
when it wasn't summertime, I mean, I guess it probably
maybe makes a little bit of sense if you think
of it in terms of going to the cinema. Wasn't
only at a drive in anymore that you can go
into a building with AC and still be able to
watch a flick, you know what I mean. So so yeah,

(11:45):
I don't know. I think the term it makes sense.
I guess in the industry to some extent that like
there's now realization after this that you can actually put
cool movies over the sum and people will watch them.
But I don't know, man, I think the term itself

(12:05):
is a little bit of propaganda to get people that
are like, Oh, what's the next thing that's gonna be
hot in the summer.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But yeah, gotcha, Okay, yeah, that's a legitimate point. I
I'll give you that. So and then as far as
film production, since we're since we're kind of going in
that that mode. So this was actually the first film
to be shot like out on an actual open water,
and uh, the production was meant with many problems, and

(12:33):
one of the biggest problem being is that the shark,
the mechanical shark itself looked very very hokey, very fake,
and Steven Spielberg was never really happy with it. In fact,
he gave he gave it the name Bruce, named after
his lawyer, because he never really liked his lawyer all
that much. But yeah, it was it was faced with
a lot of a lot of problems and a lot

(12:55):
of issues. And I think that's kind of what allowed
spill to kind of make it such a scary movie,
in the fact that he didn't show the shark so much.
I mean, he had to think on the fly in
order to make this movie. And so, Rick, what are
your thoughts on on the production of this movie? What'd
you think of the shark and and even the sound.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I thought it was cool. Man. I just watched it
fifteen minutes ago, right, I thought, I thought that it
was good, and I mean yeah, I mean yeah, certainly
there's some really really cool state of the art of
facts that we have access to nowadays. But thatwithstanding, I mean,
it was still good. It was, you know, and maybe

(13:40):
for me it is a little bit of nostalgia because
you know, I remember seeing the Jaws jump out at
us at Universal Studios, you know what I'm saying. But
I thought, I mean, I've never seen aside from going
to the zoo and seeing through like the glass and stuff,

(14:02):
I don't regularly watch sharks. So even if like, I
wouldn't know what a real shark would look like. Different
too much, you know what I'm saying. So I thought
it was good enough for me.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
You know, gotcha? What about you, Courtney? What do you
think of the effects. We think the production of the film,
Steven Spielberg embraced the hitchcockiness of this if we can
make that a word.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Oh my gosh, this is in terms of the question. Yes,
I really do think so. And what's really amazing is
a lot like many other great fantastic films is some
some of them had rough productions. This one was one
of them. And talking about the shark not working well,

(14:45):
the guys would say that the sharks worked fine in
fresh water, but the minute you put it in the saltwater,
because Steven wanted to film it right on the ocean,
which everybody thought he was insane for doing, and every
time that shark would go into saltwater you were done.
That shark would not work at all. And Richard Dreyfuss
always has that story where he always mimics that thing.

(15:06):
He goes the shark is not working. The shark is
not working. It's absolutely crazy. And it was because of
that decision, you know, Stephen had to go, Okay, this
is not getting us anywhere. What am I going to do?
And what would Hitchcock do? That's when he came up
the idea of showing less of the shark, whereas before

(15:27):
he was going to show more of the shark. And
I actually think it turned out to be way better
because seeing less of the shark and seeing it from
our perspective, like whenever we're in the Sharks pov so
to speak, there is a lot more tension and fear
and you know what's going to happen, or the suspense
just builds to a very Hitchcockian level. It's absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is, it is, And I think what really helps
it is this little music composer by the name of
John Williams. I don't know if he's gonna get anytime soon,
but the way the way he was able to use
those simple little notes dud dud dunt dud u done,
it gave you that that that fear, that that shock,

(16:14):
that there's something's gonna happen. So I think that's that
was a really clever way for both Spielberg and Williams
to kind of make this movie have that suspense and
that terror that you know, Hitchcock is is so known for.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, well that, yeah, that sound is extremely ubiquitous. I
mean even in pop pop pop culture. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, because I remember when my when my children were
really small, and I was giving him a bath. We
had the little squeaker toys and stuff in there, and
I would always there was a shark and I'd always
gonna squeaks wakes quains weak. Yeah, So I mean since
then they knew that they knew the song, so well, anyway,
let's let's go ahead and uh, let's dive into that story.

(16:57):
The film opens up in a with a relax next
summer scene seen on Amity Island, where a beach party
is interrupted by a shark attack on Christy Watkins. Mayor
Vaughan initially resists closing the beach, prioritizing the local economy
over public safety. This sets the stage for the resulting
conflict is Brody, the local police chief, is torn between

(17:20):
his fear of the ocean and his duty to protect
his community. The first shark attack and the subsequent deaths,
all along with the discovery of the sharks presence, create
a growing sense of dread and uncertainty for the town
and its inhabitants. That whole you know, first act of
the movie where we get the we get the build

(17:41):
up and the and the suspense for what's going on
on this island, and we see a lot of the
political machinations happening with the mayor and the police chief.
You know, what did you guys feel about that? You know, uh,
what do you think? Courtney?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Oh my gosh, So I didn't get to finish the
movie because, like I said, I wanted to watch it
last night, and then I didn't end up finishing it,
but I did get to a certain point and obviously
I was able to go through the opening, and the
opening is such a harrowing moment. Now, realistically, that's not

(18:21):
that would not happen. Like you know, shark attacks usually
are quicker than that. Great example would be beth in
the I think her name is Bethany Hamilton surfer. Yes,
she had a shark attack just literally just took her,
but she you know, she survived. The way that they
play it off here is more horrific, But that's the problem.

(18:43):
That's the thing. Like the way the scene is, it's
scary and it's absolutely crazy. And then as far as
the mayor is concerned, I really cannot stand this guy.
He's a real piece of work. Doesn't care about the community,
other and the money. Because if he cared about the
cared about the people, he closed the beaches down. So

(19:06):
to me, I don't like the mayor. I never, in
one point of the movie thought he was sympathetic at all.
I just he's just one of those guys that you
just love to hate. But it's a really powerful opening
for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh yes, what about you Rick, would you think of
that a whole opening sequence.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I thought it was a fantastic piece of exposition the
way it was done, And it portrays the movie as
like a quasi horror film with you know, sunshine and
otherwise calm waters, you know what I mean. It's like,

(19:45):
you know, it's it's in the midst of summer, it's
not Halloween, it's not dark. It's most of the scenes
there shot during the day. Yet I get the constant
sense that this was like a horror film, you know,
a scary movie. You have very telltale signs of this
type of plot because there are a handful of people

(20:09):
that get information that other people dismiss as coincidence, conjecture, lies,
or conspiracy, and everyone has their own motives, Like Courtney says,
the mayor has his own motives, and he's not willing
to face the wrath of the common folk is either

(20:33):
in the moment or in the long run with the
shutdown of a beach for fear of what will happen
to potentially his position or to the businesses in town
and things like that. And so because he didn't actually
see it happen, he's just like, you know, people are

(20:53):
just overreacting. Even the sheriff, after having wrote down on
his report that it was pretty much a shark attack
with the first killing that he just was able to
just kind of like, well, maybe it was a boat
accident or something like that. So people are willing to

(21:14):
kind of, you know, turn a blind eye to what's
really happening despite getting bits of information here and there,
and because the viewer gets to see all of it,
we're left with this immense amount of suspense that just
builds over time in this portion of the movie. And

(21:36):
it was really really, really well done.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes, yeah, I agree. I mean you get you get
a lot of that suspense meaning because, like you said,
you know, Mayor Vaughn convinced the medical examiner to change
to change what was on the report, and I just
thought that that was very shocking, very telling. Like Courtney says,
Mayor Vaughn is definitely not a character that you're gonna
like in this movie.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
So when when.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Our police chief Brody doesn't close the beach but he
goes to spend the spend the day with his family
at the beach, there was two things that I wanted
to mention here. And you know, he's he's keeping an
eye out there, he's watching the water, because they give
you that sense that he's afraid of the water. He's
there's there's definitely some fear in him about what's going on.

(22:25):
He's concerned about the people around him. And a guy
comes up to him wearing this like swim cap and
he sits down and he talks to him, and uh,
and he just kind of like Brody kind of shoves
him off and he says, you know, bad Hat Harry.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
And I couldn't help but stop pause it, think about
did I just hear that right? Backed it up, played
it again. I'm like, yep, sure enough, Bad Hat Harry,
for those who are in the know, is the name
of the production company for Brian Singer, the guy that
brought you The Usual Suspects and Smith and Superman Returns,

(23:03):
you know. And I thought, oh, hey, I bet that's
where he got it. And sure enough, that's where he
got the name for his production company. So a little
wink in a nod there to Jaws for Brian Singer.
You guys, noticed anything anything else in those opening sequences
that might might have been an homage to something? And
I'm looking at you Courtney, cause I think you might

(23:23):
have caught it.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Are you talking about the the dolly zoom Vertigo effects?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Absolutely one of the best ways of showing oh my gosh,
like he sees what's going on in that camera, just
oh my gosh. That is so epic, and then the
John Williams music to add to that. It's absolutely incredible.
And I love that little Hitchcock game which is happening

(23:51):
right now because I have it playing on my TV
right now, so literally that shot just happens. But it's
one of the best moments in the movie for sure
when you talk about a real action shot.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So Rick, I don't know if you if you know
which one we're referring to, but there's a scene where
Brody's got that cigarette in his face. It's kind of
far back and the camera like pushes in to him
as he sees something going on. And that was a
shot that Spielberg mimicked and Corney pointed out to us

(24:22):
when we were doing the Vertigo episode.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, I can't say that I remember that shot.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Gotcha anyway, So yes, they did use it a lot
in Vertigo. The other thing I wanted to point out
that I thought was kind of neat is so the
character Alex Kettner, he's actually played by a character or
he's played by an actor by the name of Jeffrey Voorhees,
And I just think it's funny that no relation, no

(24:55):
ties to the famous nineteen seventy eight slash reflick Friday
the Thirteenth. It's just a coincidence that here's another horror
film with the name where he's in it. So anyone
else have any cool thoughts on the first act?

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I had a thought whenever we were talking about the
mayor convincing the examiner to change the report, and how
Brody basically just plays along with that. I think what
make this is kind of what makes Brody not only
sympathetic but also relatable because he's a newbie on the island.

(25:39):
He's not born there, he's very new, but he knows
his job. I think he loves his job. I think
that comes across. But when the mayor and a few
other people kind of come at him because it's only
Brody and you got like three or four people, including
the mayor and the examiner, they're like, no, no, it
was just this, and you don't want to cause trouble. Well,

(26:03):
I think it's out of that situation that he looks
and goes, oh, okay, well then I guess I'll just
keep my mouth shut, but maybe just keep an eye
on things. So that's that pressure that he gets that
we can relate to, like, especially if you're new, Like
if you start a new job somewhere or move somewhere
and you feel out of place. You don't want to

(26:25):
cause trouble in an area where nobody knows you, even
though you know it's wrong. But this doesn't make him unlikable,
whereas in the with the mayor, you know where his
true mind is and that makes him unlikable. But Brody,
you can sympathize with him and go, it's okay, Brody.
You know, we understand, you know what's going on, but

(26:45):
you clearly don't like what position you are in. And
I think that's that makes him very human and relatable.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, totally. You know, he submitted to expertise authority in
that particular instance. So yeah, and that and in general,
I think that makes the plot just better, just more authentic,
you know, to you know, real human life, which is
what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, Yeah, and I gotta say, I think it's it's
nice that it establishes that at the beginning with you know,
I wouldn't say he was being attacked, but he was
definitely ganged up on, like you had said, because I mean,
was it five guys come out of that car.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Five guys burgers and fries baby.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I mean, if this was a Scorsese film, all those
guys would be Italian and they'd be like, you know,
taking taking Brody to to wear, you know, concrete shoes.
It was it was interesting to see that scene and
then and then of course we get the opposite of that.
Then after the Kettner boy dies on the beach from
the shark attack, it's like the entire town is now

(27:58):
ganging up on uh not Brody, but the mayor and
the boarder uh chambers of the boarder chambers.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Uh yeah like that.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, town counts, city council. Yes, that's it. Yeah, And
so you can actually see that, you know, things have switched.
Now Brody's kind of getting more in that position of no,
we have to do with the what the the citizens want,
and of course that's where we get that really cool
scene with Quint and uh, I know, I as a

(28:32):
few times as I've seen this movie. That scene with
Quint and the nails on the chalkboard, that's just it's
it's like iconic in that whole thing. And I gotta
say Robert Shaw plays the character Quint beautifully. I mean,
he's he's got the whole nor'easter and uh fisher Lon

(28:53):
shoreman down pat and uh so, just out of curiosity,
what did you guys think of that? That speech? You know,
what do you think of Quin's Quint?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
I will admit he was not my favorite when I
first watched it, But the more I watch it, the
more open and sympathetic I become to him in many ways.
And as far as his opening scene, at first, off,
it's a great opening scene, but I hate the nails
on a chalkboard thing, Like it's one of those things
like I'm like, oh, it'll stop, just stop. But as

(29:28):
the scene as a whole, it's so good, especially when
he says, you know, fish, what a hole dundurizing done
your goal? You know, And it's just, you know, just
that whole dialogue was so cool, and then the whole
town council was just looking at him. The americ goes, okay, well,
we'll keep you in mind and let you know, like
he did, he just startled over something. But it was

(29:49):
really funny for sure. But it was a good opening
for him.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
What about you, Rick, since you're familiar with chalkboards, what
do you think of quinc intro.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, it was amazing. It was definitely amazing, and I
think it his character is pretty well developed. Later you
get to hear some of his backstory and stuff. But yeah,
he's he's clearly from the greatest generation. I think he
really portrayed it well that he is the this is

(30:21):
what we got to do, and it's you know, this
is this is what the duty is and and you
guys want to do something different than okay, but this
is what's got to be done and this is what
we got to do. So he's very pertinent about those
type of responsibilities. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, And of course there's a scene later on that
really reinforces that he's from the greatest generation. But we'll
get to that when when we get towards Act three.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I think the other thing I have to say about
Quinns is I just like how Robert Shaw was able
to inject a lot of this local stuff, you know,
he came up with some of his own euphemisms and
some of his own lines in a few of these scenes.
So I think he did a great job at that.
And yes, he does become I agree with Courtney, he
does become rather sympathetic character throughout the movie. And then

(31:15):
of course, you know with the after the town council
meeting and they have they have the note that you know,
Kettner's offering three thousand dollars for someone to you know,
take out the shark. That's when like everybody comes out
of the woodwork and they're hopping on boats left and right,
and they're going out to go hunt the shark. And
that's when we're introduced to the other great actor in

(31:40):
this movie, and of course that's that's Richard Dreyfus, a
young Richard Dreyfus. At that I thought it was neat
that he He's playing a guy that's an oceanographer, an
ick theologist, which is basically someone who studies sharks. And uh,
with with that, he gets his own, like I would

(32:01):
almost say, like his own shark boat. Not quite a
bat boat, but a shark boat. And he's got all
these really cool tools and toys to use to hunt sharks.
But yeah, I just I really liked his character. He
was definitely I would almost call him like the nerdy
hero in this movie. Would you all think?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I think he was pretty likable. I think he It
was nice to have that type of expert knowledge on sharks,
what their habits are, what their preferred environment are is,
what their behaviors are, and you know, and as he

(32:45):
was giving these tidbits of information, I would double check
it on what we know about sharks today. And for
the most part, it was pretty legit. Most of the
stuff that he said is still either it was aoed
or it's it was known and it still rings true today.
So that was pretty cool. I like how in some

(33:08):
movies they try to do well to keep most of
the expert knowledge true to you know, real life and stuff.
Sometimes obviously there's creative liberties that are given, but it
didn't seem like very many of those were done. The
one thing, the one thing that I will say was

(33:28):
for me, a pretty big creative liberty that was taken
was the speed of the shark. Uh. So, I don't
know if you guys have ever, Like I said, I
haven't gone face to face with a shark or whatever.
But I have gone face to face with dolphins before,
and they are while they're a little faster than sharks

(33:51):
if I remember correctly, do they're fast? Man? I mean,
they're there so fast I mean sharks, if I remember,
I'm I had to look it up, but I think
something like thirty forty fifty miles an hour. They can swim,
So the idea that the shark was moving so slowly
is totally not true to form. However, however, it did

(34:14):
add lots of suspense, man, lots of suspense. So with
that being said, I totally am cool with it because
it added to the whole feel of the movie, you
know what I mean. So aside from that thing, I
think everything that our resident itcheologist itch itchiolologist. You're gonna

(34:38):
have to say that for me.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
It's a fancy name for.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, actually iologists.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah. So yeah, though, Courtney, any any rebuttals, any comments
on on our resident ichthyologist Richard Dreyfuss.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Oh absolutely, real quick though, because we're going see by
scene and everything, so we of course have to talk
about the scene before we meet our other hero. One
of the most suspenseful moments where two guys are trying
to catch the shark by bringing one of the guy's
wife's roast or something. Oh my gosh, that is one

(35:20):
of the yest moments in the movie and is totally
one of my favorites and is pure hitchcocking. And when
that bridge breaks and then the guy swimming but he's
going so slow, and then that bridge turns around and
John Williams music pumps it up to an eleven and
you're like, go, go, don't look back, just swim. It
is so good. However, as much as I love the scene,

(35:43):
this is the first time I actually saw a nitpick,
if you will, because even though he's swimming to his
buddy on the bridge, if he would have just went straight,
he would have made it onto the beach. So as
slow as Bruce was going after him, he would have
saved himself some time by going to the beach rather
than struggling up to the bridge going I can't get up,
I can't get up, and the guy giving him his

(36:05):
hand so in after that he probably would have been
a lot safer going on the beach. But as the
as the scene is played, it's great suspense and it
gets your heart pumping too, because you're like, oh my gosh, no,
don't die, don't die, don't die, and then you know
he's safe, and then that bridge falls away and stuff,
and it's like, oh my goodness, you can breathe now.

(36:26):
But that is pure hit hockey and it's so good.
And then meeting Hooper. I love Hooper. He is one
of my favorites, right next to Brodie. He's just so
cute and I don't know, I would love just to
go on the boat with him and swim with him,
like I would want him to be my best friend.
You know, I really like him. And behind the scenes,

(36:48):
of course, we got to talk about his casting. He
actually didn't want to do the movie. He completely refused
to play in the movie. He didn't want to make it.
Steven wanted him so bad. He's like, no, I don't
won it. But he went and did his first ever
starring role and thought he was terrible. I think it
was something called The Adventures of Buddy Crimits or something

(37:09):
like that. I can't remember, but it was his first
starring movie. He thought he was completely awful. That he
went to Stephen was like, uh, yeah, can I please
be in Jawn's And that's how he got the role
of Jaws, even though Stephen wanted him originally nice but
he was great. I love him in this movie.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, I really like him too.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
And I looked up the speeds of a Great White
and apparently, like normal movement is like around two or
three miles an hour. However, when it's chasing Prey, twenty
five miles an hour. So so clearly clearly is lots
slower than it. Basically it was like chasing Prey with

(37:52):
his regular movement speed. So which which man had suspense? Though,
man it had suspense?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, yeah, well now now I do have a theory
behind the peer sequence. So the peer comes loose, that
guy falls in the water, you know, and they had
used a roast with like this big hook on it,
and the shark was able to pull the whole peer
off because he's you know, he's like the king of
the sharks. He's almost like a megalodon, you know, and

(38:22):
he pulls it away. Now, my theory is that he
pulled it away, but he kept the roast. He's like, oh, hey,
I got my snack. I'm gonna go head off, not
really paying attention to what's behind him, and what you
see slowly moving back is not the shark, it's just
the tide bringing them, and it gives you that sense.

(38:45):
That's that's my theory on.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's everyone jump into conclusions and stuff out of exactly
jumping into conclusions out.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
If I saw granted, if I saw that peer turn
around and after meat though, I'm sorry, I'd high tailing
out there too.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, I don't want to take the chance.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
For sure, man, I mean, but it's still scenes that
get you on the edge of your seat. You're just like,
oh my god. I don't know how many times that
I watching this was like that's crazy, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Exactly. Yeah, you know. And there's one other thing I
wanted to point about Richard Dreyfus, So I thought with
his with his Matt Hooper character, I thought he did
a great job in the autopsy scene with Chrissy Watkins,
because you know, he kind of comes in and you
know that he's expecting some time, because he's got his
he's got his gear up, he's got his his little
headphone and he's recording what he's talking about, and as

(39:43):
he's describing everything, you can kind of see that he's
getting getting a little green behind the gills as a
as a little ephemist there, and the way he's portraying it,
you just know, subtle pauses, that moment where he's like,
you think he's gonna kind of maybe throw open his
I just thought those were great, little subtle hints that

(40:04):
this is a terrible thing that they see. I mean,
it even kind of reflects what happened when they discovered
her on the beach. You know that that one officer
that threw the whistle. Uh yeah, even he looked sick.
So I mean, it's just it's really really great acting
on on on Hooper or on Right's part, as well
as some of the other actors through there. I thought

(40:24):
it was a really good, you know, feeling of dread
that they added to this film.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I also like to think that, I mean, I could
be maybe adding a little bit more than what it
is giving, so you guys can let me know. But
I also like to think that when he's talking, like
he's you know, taking deep breasts, like it's really hard
for him to kind of concentrate on that. But like
once he's done recording and everything, he's like, didn't you
guys check these waters? Like I could I felt like

(40:52):
he played the role there a little frustrated because he
knew what was going on and yet they mark it
as a accident. It almost seemed like he was angry.
But yeah, I felt like I felt like he played
it like he was almost angry to the point like

(41:15):
he's like he knows what's going on and they tried
to hide it.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh, it looks like Joey's joining us now, I tell
you what. Let's let's go ahead and roll then into
the other autopsy. Hey, Joey, I see you joined us.
I'm glad you can make it. You got any thoughts
on the Autopsy of Christy Watkins or your thoughts on
Richard Dreyfus his character as he came into this film.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Well, forget mister Holland's opis, this is Richard Dreyfus's Opus,
Close Encounters of the Third kind, whatever, This is my
favorite rich Richard Dreyfus movie. The thoughts on Opening Weekend, Well,
I did get to get a chance to talk to
someone who actually does remember.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Opening Weekend happened to be from a They.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
They they're seventy two years fun now, and when they
were a young person, they were working at a certain
movie theater that we're both familiar with, and they said
it was just one screen at that time. They said
the line for Jaws wrapped around that theater, wrent on.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
The block three times.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
So obviously word of mouth got out about the kid
on that raft.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
And everybody had to see it for themselves.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah. Man, well I'll tell you what, man, that kid
in the beach that got man eating up and stuff.
That was a lot of blood. Man. I was when
I was watching that, I was like, oh my god, man,
that was just like absolutely insane. For the most part,
most of those attack scenes were they were really cool, man.

(42:47):
Like I wouldn't say it was necessarily super duper gory,
but it was without being gory, you know what I'm saying.
There wasn't like guts and stuff flying around necessarily that
I saw, right, But it was like pretty intense, like
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yes, yeah, I know, I know you're saying that they
played it. They played it well to where you got
the sense that it was a terrible attack, but they
didn't show yeh as much.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, which I thought was really really cool.
And in fact, with those scenes that we had I
just kind of wondered, what would it have been like
to watch this movie like opening weekend and stuff like.
I imagine there would have been audible gasps in the theater,
you know, if you went nineteen seventy five to the

(43:36):
theater watching it along everyone else the first time. Oh
my goodness, I bet the energy was just out of
control in that theater.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I just, man, oh yeah, yeah, I definitely think a
lot of people were sitting on the edges of their seats.
You know, we had we had the one autopsy with
Christy Watkins. You know, we saw the boy Alex Kettner die,
but we got some revenge against the shark world and
the fact that they caught a tiger shark, and Richard
Dreyfus was pretty positive that that shark they caught was

(44:08):
not our our evil, villainous shark out there in the
waters of Amity Island, and so they after consoling our
friend Brody, they managed to go open up the shark
and uh, Rick, what what do you have on on
that thought of the of the shark opening like a

(44:30):
chest of specialness?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I guess okay, man, So that that whole bit was
really really interesting because when the shark was pulled out
of the water. Everyone was, you know, high five in
each other and stuff like that, and you had you
had Hopper. He was taking measurements and things. He was like, well,

(44:51):
actually this is not the shark. I don't think you know,
and it I think everyone would have just been I know,
you're wrong, you know, Nerd, go back to your books
kind of thing, you know what I'm saying. But what
was really special was the little tiny scene with the mom.

(45:15):
I think that's what actually changed Brodie's mind with regard
to what our Hopper was actually proposing to actually open
up the shark, because I think they would have just
been like, no, we ain't gonna do that. You know,
nobody wants to see that. And it made a difference.

(45:35):
And when when he went over for dinner and they
were talking about it, I think he had been dwelling
on it long enough to where he was like, look,
I got to make a decision and we got to
go and check this thing out. And when it was
opened up, Oh my god, that was I felt. I
wasn't nauseated, but I was empathizing with the expression on

(46:01):
Brody's face when he was like trying to hold it back.
I was like, I was like a milky substance and
stuff and there was a treasure trove of things from
where from New York all the way to Louisiana. Like
what that was crazy? Absolutely crazy? Man. I thought that

(46:23):
was an amazing I mean simple but god.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Yeah, they found Jimmy. That's where they found Jimmy Haffle.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
But you know, I don't know if you guys picked
up on it, but Dudgeon, taking out of context, judge
of Master said something that made reminded me of the
differences with the book.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
And Hooper had an affair with Brodie's wife in the book.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Whoa.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah, if you want to rewind it and listen to
where Dudgeon Master started to talk there, then you'll get
my innuendo, but I won't repeat it.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
So anyway, Courtney, thank you for being able to fix
the cable line there at uh and and get back
with us on our on our boat here. So we're
tooling along the we're going up the golf stream. You
know we uh we made up the golf from Louisiana.
We we just opened up the shark. But you were
mentioning something else.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
The Gulf of America Bat we were we.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Were talking about you were mentioning something about the Little
Boy and Alex Kettner. So I'll go ahead and turn
it back over to you so you can kind of
bring it, bring us back up to what your thought was.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Yeah, so that whole sequence that was crazy. Like I
always watched a part as someone who owns a dog,
I especially hate the owner the I mean not the
owner himself, but the part where he's throwing the stick
to his dog and the dog's having fun jumping and
then all of a sudden he's gone pipping pipping. I'm

(47:54):
like you, dog, I'm so mad. It's no shark must die.
And then and you get that again, epic moment of
just watching the camera and you know what's about to
happen with the boy and his mom's reaction. I mean
she doesn't actually see what happens, but the after effect

(48:15):
when she's looking for him and then she realizes what happened,
and it's really sad. And I get it now because,
like I said, when I first watched this years ago,
you know, part of me didn't like what she did
to Brody because of course, you know she you know,
she hit him because she was so mad, and I'm thinking,
why are you hitting Brody? You should hit you should

(48:35):
actually hit the mayor, Like, come on, I'm roove for
you to hit him, but don't hit Brody. But because
somehow somebody got the news that he had known. I
get it from her standpoint as a grieving mother, because
she had to take her anger out on somebody. And
unfortunately it was true. He did know about it. And

(48:56):
I find it really interesting how the mayor just stands
back and watches the all take place. Then the minute
she goes, he's like, oh, I'm so sorry, Brodie. If
you're not sorry, why didn't you just say, actually, honey,
it was my fault. Okay, don't blame Brodie. It's my fault.
So again, less sympathetic, Oh, just another one like dud.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Don't like yeah, yeah. And unfortunately, because because Brodie is
the chief of police, you know, he's the ones that's
assigned to serve and protect society or the community, whereas
the mayor is he's just there for like the boy,
and you know, he was like an atypical.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
And the story I think did a really good job
to outline everyone's roles because it was already previously stated
that both he was in charge of protecting the citizens
and also that he wrote like they actually showed the
screenschat where he wrote that it was a shark attack

(49:57):
on that death certificate. So well, both of those things
were and it was really good that they specifically showed
those so that there is no question as to, you know,
what the motivation for that slap was and and how
it fit together with the motivations moving forward of the protagonist.
Was good.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Has anyone addressed the geezers in the room? Uh, I know,
it's the middle.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Aged movie review podcast, and h let's let's let's just
point out that mister and missus Kittener were a little
bit beyond middle age to have a child of that age.
So was he adopted because I'm pretty sure her ovaries
shut down like a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well I don't know this.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
This is the seventies, so I mean maybe she had
her in her forties. Oh you mean they just smoked
themselves and.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
They you know, I mean, yeah, it could have been.
Especially mister Kittener.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
I'm staring at him right now, and that that looks
like that child's grandfather.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Well, hey, you know, I had children later in life.
I mean, look, look here, I probably have as much
gray hair as he does.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
So I mean, no, dude, that look that that guy
looks older than your dad. And I've met your dad,
all right, mister Kittner in particular.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Like all right, so like let's let's put let's get
all right, let's pretend she had that boy when she
was like forty, that that man sired a child when
he's sixty. And I know, you know, from recent Hollywood
news like Pacino and de Niro and stuff, it's possible.
But uh, those smalled ass parents.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, we'll talk that up to bad casting from uh
from the casting director. All right, well, let's let's go
back to a little younger and talk about a little
more about Matt Hooper and Brody. So they've they've cut
open the Shark, Courtney, do you have any any thoughts
on on what they discover inside the Tiger Shark.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
I get a kick out of the line that Brodie
says when he says, whatdd he eat a car? But
and I also want to point out too, because I
forget who, but somebody said something about Brodie's face, how
he's holding his nose and stuff when he's you know,
taking a look at the shark. Even Hooper's going like

(52:17):
he's looking over and trying to avoid the overall area.
So it's like, just two guys, just do an investigation.
Nothing to see here. But it's a really funny scene.
And then I especially love the moment too when he's like, well,
we're gonna go look for him, but I's like, no,
I can't. Hooper's like, yes, you can. And again it's
I love the banter between the two of them. They're

(52:39):
just so great.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, they definitely add like a buddy cop system to
this movie. And you know, you did point out that
that scene was kind of awesome, little funny, and I
think it's meat how Spielberg can do these like little
high points of terror and then kind of bring it
back down to these more quieter moments and then terror again,
and then the quieter moments. It's it's almost like a
wave hitting you with this terror, so you have these

(53:03):
moments of breath. And of course we do get another
terror moment coming up when when Hooper and Brody go
out on Hooper's boat and this thing looks like top
of the line from the nineteen seventies. It looked pretty cool.
I'm like, why didn't they take this out to go
fight ruin it?

Speaker 4 (53:24):
True? Maybe Hooper didn't pay for it. Maybe it's the institutions.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Well, we get the idea that Hooper has money, you know,
he comes from money, and of course, you know, we
get that. We get that moment where they're out there
on the water. They got lights everywhere shining on everything,
they got all these devices going, and they find something
in the water and it's that that like little Dinghy
has been attacked or hit beat up or by the shark.

(53:50):
And uh, I just thought how brave it was for
Hooper to just nonchalantly jump in the water and go investigate.
And you can kind of see that Brody, who has
fear of the water, is sitting there and he's just
like unsure of everything. Joey, what'd you think of that
whole sequence?

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Oh, I just totally spaced out, and I was like
looking up the true story behind in the wild theory
that Jaws could identify the woman known as the Lady
of the Dunes who was butchered in such a way
that she looked like a shark at eating her because
apparently she's in the movie.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Anyways, what the hell.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Was s Hooper investigating the dinghy and finding the great
white shark tooth?

Speaker 6 (54:34):
Oh my god, you mean the best part of the movie. Yeah.
To me, it's the most gruesome part of the film.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
I want to say that that was all shot in
somebody's swim pool.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
I believe you're correct, so.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
That, Yeah, you just need to see props and characters,
and you don't need to you know, it's all below water,
so that's probably the most practical place to shoot it.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Today people could shoot.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
The scene, you know, with their their water proofones, but
then you needed a special camera and uh, it's yeah,
it really it's a PG film. And between this and
Quinn's Fate, these are the most gruesome parts of the
movie that are definitely rated R. In terms of gore,

(55:21):
I think I think you see the face a little
less on TV, but you did see it for a moment,
and it's just it's gross. It's the best jump scare
in the film. I think it's It definitely one ups
stand by Me, and it predates it by a decade.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Gotcha, gotcha? Well how about you, Courtney, what did you
think of Hooper getting scared stiff there? Well?

Speaker 4 (55:50):
First off, let me just say, I do like stand
by me. I saw that movie last year, real good movie.
But it's it's definitely I do agree with Joey. It's
a very scary moment. And as far as that whole
scene uh went and everything, that one, I think could
have been one of the last that was shot because

(56:12):
looking at the documentary, Stephen said that this was where
he he actually said this. He said, I got greedy.
I thought what more scary could I do? And he
came up with that moment, and I'm like, oh, okay,
well good for you, I guess. But it's definitely one
of those like, oh my gosh moments because he was right,

(56:34):
he said when he would, you know, see the tooth,
he said, obviously the audience is gonna look at what
Hooper's looking at. So you're, oh my gosh, that's a
big tooth, and then that moment comes up and you're
just like So it's definitely definitely one of the scary moments.
I don't think, I mean for me personally, it's not
a favorite scene, but it is scary.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely frightening. He definitely has that. I mean,
I was waiting for the shark to come swim by
or something. Yes, yeah, but yeah, what about you, Rick,
What did you think of that?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Pretty much most most of what everyone said is pretty good.
The only thing that I'd add to it would be
that I thought it was really cool that he ended
up dropping the tooth and how it conveniently fit along
with the plot in that when they were trying to
convince the mayor, hey, this is a serious problem. We

(57:28):
found this tooth and blah blah, He's like, oh, you
found a tooth. Let's take a look at the tooth.
It's like, oh, yeah, we dropped in the river or
dropped in the ocean. Oh okay, so you don't have
a tooth, got it?

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
So I thought that was like, really cool. That was
a really good plot device.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, poor Courtney's over here. She's probably got a sack
full of doorknobs that she wants to introduce the mayor. Two.
He's that upset about the mayor, you know, not shutting
down the beaches, And I agree, I agree with you.
I think that, you know, had the mayor looked out
for the citizens, he should have shut the beaches down,
but he didn't. He was thinking the bottom line, you
know he's.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
A he's a good dresser. I'll say that.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
You watch an HD and you're like, yeah, that is
that is some kind.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Of yeah with the oh my gosh, what do you
call the anchors the anchors on the suit?

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Like, oh, okay, I can't remember now, is it anchors
or is it?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (58:28):
The you have the such and such captain the big
what what do they see the ship with?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
What the hell is called the rudder? The rudder? I'm
not a sailor.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
The ones you had anchors, I think that's the one
that he was talking to Bridie and Hooper a little
while ago. That one had anchors.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
So there's only two couple of things I know about boats,
all right, port is okay, starboards right, the keels underneath
the stern is the back imber?

Speaker 6 (59:04):
The helm.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
But I there's one thing I will never forget though.
Captain Crunch is only a commander. He is he is
he is a he is a fraud. He's a forgerie.
He is a lie.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
That's a deep cut at the steering wheel. I can't
believe I didn't call it a steering wheel.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
It's called the helm.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yeah, the helm?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Okay, Yeah, the rudder's the back yeah, as we all
know turns.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah, the rudder is the actual piece that that's that
turns the boat when you turn the helm.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
And you know, how can you how can you think
that someone is going to tell you the truth when
they're Cereal cuts your gums and rips up the top
of your mouth.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I mean, come on, hey man, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Well, this has been a serial week here at memoriew podcast.
If you want to hear more about Cereal cordy with
correct All right, So that then leads us into act too,
which is, uh, the shark presence is definitely confirmed, and
a second attack occurs in the harbor, further fueling the
fear and panic. Brody, along with oceanographer Hooper and the

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legendary shark hunter Quint, embark on a daring mission to
hunt the shark. The trio encounters intense challenges, including the
shark's powerful attacks, the boat sinking, and the men's personal struggles.
The midpoint of the film sees Brody, Hooper, and Quint
bond over shared trauma and stories, building an unlikely friendship.

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All right, so we get this idea that you know,
the fairies arrive you know, the everyone is coming into
town to enjoy the beach, and the beaches aren't closed,
but they have twice as many people. They're watching the beaches,
and we get a really scary sequence where nobody wants

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to enter the water, and it isn't until the mayor
approaches another person on the board and says, hey, you know,
go into the water. Go it's it's nice, it's okay,
you're fine, Go into the water. And then once one
person goes in, then everybody else goes in, and then
we get this mass panic when they actually see was

(01:01:26):
it a dolphin? Oh no, it was too two little
boys exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
They as the Internet would say, they almost became unalived.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm surprised that you know that
they got they got a significant fine, and I would
I wouldn't be surprised if the dad of those two
boys or beat the living crap out of them. Anyone
else have any thoughts on the whole reopening or going

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into the into the water.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
Back when child abuse was called parenting, Yeah, duh, they
should not have gone back into the water.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I thought it was kind of cool that, you know,
in the back of their minds they all knew something
was up yet because they didn't see a shark attack,
they could, you know, kind of dismiss it and be like, well,
maybe it is okay, you know, like maybe it is
just a bunch of conjecture or blowing things no pun

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intended here, but out of the water. So I you know,
it's it's it's again. It's that human element that you
know you can kind of just turn a blind eye
if you haven't actually seen it because it doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
So then you can go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
You can go have fun in the water, and probably
it'll be all right as long as you swim faster
than the person's around you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
True. Yeah, you don't have to be faster than twenty
five miles an hour to out swim a chart, but
you could swim faster than somebody else. How about you, Courtney,
how are you? Are you gonna swimmer?

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Yeah, I'd say I was a good swimmer. Not the best.
I wouldn't call myself like a Truty Utterly or Esther Williams.
But I have a good swimmer, I think. But I
definitely this is talk about you know, you know, make
a point every time I say how terrible the mayor is.
But This is one of those cases where, like REEDYVDVDV

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don't like the mayor because the fact that he's looking
at the beaches, everybody's completely scared. And he comes to
an older couple and he's like, what, you just get
in the water. And my thing is, if you want to,
if you want the beach open so much, why don't
you go in the water. Let's see you put your
trunks on and you go in the water first, and
then I might go in there, okay. And then then
he's going on National TV saying, oh, the beaches are

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wide open, and I started thinking about that moment in
die Hard spoiler alert if none of you have seen
die Hard, although that's probably not the case, but that
moment where that greedy newscaster is talking to Bruce and
his wife at the end of the story and she
punches them right in the face, thinking, you know, I

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really would have loved someone to do that to him
on National TV.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That would have been cool. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, And
I gotta say that the mayor is definitely being a
complete asshole in the in this movie.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
When did you turn on him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Me?

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Yeah? When did? When did you feel like you finally
turned on the I would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Have to say, after they caught the caught the tiger shark.
The mayor, you know, the mayor is a real a
real jerk, and the Brody's like keeping it on everything,
and he sees that Michael's gonna take that boat out,
and he convinces Michael and his buddies to take the
boat to the what they referred to as the pond,
which is basically just like an an inlet off of

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the main area. So he feels a little safer that
shallower area. But but it turns out that it's not.
The shark manages to somehow find its way into the
smaller areas, the smaller inlet, and you get the sense
that these boys are in trouble because they get capsized
by the boat capsizes and you think something's gonna be eaten.

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And I just thought it was clever that No, the
boys are safe. The boys are fine because a kayaker
gets eaten.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Hey man, Like I said, as long as you can
swim faster than the people around you, or get get
on a boat when they're in a kayak, whatever works.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
But if you're splashing more in real life, wouldn't they
be more likely.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
To go after you because they think you're struggling.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yep, yeah, yeah, I actually looked they talked about it
in the film, and I looked it up because I
thought I saw when I was younger, I used to
be souper. I mean, just like every young boy used
to be super into sharks. And I remember seeing this
one episode of Shark Week where they did a test
see whether or not, you know, a shark would actually
be more inclined to attack someone who's moving around versus

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someone who's just staying still in the water. And through
the test, they did actually prove that someone who's moving around,
thrashing around, or just swimming, they would more likely be
attacked opposed to someone who is just not moving at all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
So they articulated it in the movie too cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And of course the major thing
that we get out of this too is that Hooper's
own son, Michael, is shocked and is in complete shock.
And so that's when Brody definitely definitely reinforces the fact
that hey, may or you need to shut down the

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shut down the beaches and you know, let's you know,
pay Quint to go after the shark. And this is
where we get an interesting that this really dates that
this is the nineteen seventies, because I don't know if
you guys caught it or not, but there was smoking
in the hospital.

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, I missed that. And I do love
me some smoking in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I just can't have a thing. So there's like, there's
oxygen tanks, there's all kinds of you know, medical equipment,
and here's you know, here's the mayor just lighting up
a palm all right there in the middle of.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
I want to know what the defining incidents were where
they're like, you know, I don't think we should be
smoking in here. Do you think it was an explosion
or do you think it was like, well, the surgeon
General says smoking it caused cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Maybe a little from column A, a little from Columbe. I'm
not sure.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
I wasn't around then, but but I distinctly remember the
people outside the hospital smoking when I was kids. So
it was and then it became like fifty feet and
then one hundred feet, and I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
I think you have to smoke in your card.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
In Yeah, I think you gotta be down by the docks,
down by the way from Yeah, in a van. Yeah,
So the mayor signs the thing to to hire Quint,
and Quint goes out, but Brody says, no, you're taking
us with you, and it's it's him and Quinton Matt
Hooper and and they go out. And I just I

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thought it was neat because this is where we get
a lot of Quint's special mannerisms and and different unique
unique uh terminologies or something, you know, like swimming with
bow legged women and and such. I just I just
thought that this, this character that Robert Shaw is portraying

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is is definitely a funny guy on top of being
such a unique long shoreman.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I know we've spoken earlier about Quent when we first
introduced him, but Joey, I like to know, what are
your thoughts on Quint's.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
I mean, this is my introduction to Robert Shaw. I
think it's it's probably most memorable role. Back in the
days of Ain't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
It Cool News?

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
Before for that that website literally got canceled, so to speak.
There there was a reviewer goes by his real name now,
but he was one of the people did not get canceled,
and he that was his name, Quint, you know, or
is it Quinn or Quinn.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Quinn Quint with the ten.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
Oh, I've been screwing something up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
I've been calling this cop and this other guy I
work with one of his first names, Quinn, and the
other one's last names officer Quinn, and I've been both
doing associations with Jaws that were incorrect for years And
I just realized anyhow, Quint, Yeah, that that is the
name of.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
A very much more famous than us movie reviewer.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
And uh, it just shows you he's he's a pop
culture icon. He's gotten toys, you know, post Postmartem, uh,
Tony Terror, there's a twoy Terrors of jo and you
know Quint of a certain scene, and it's it's that

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guy's I'd say, like, what else is he most known for?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Him?

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
The Taking of Pelham one, two three, or I can't
remember the exact nave title of that. What is What
would you say that this actor is better known for other.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Than John I don't know, because I mean I only
know him from Jaws. How about you, Courtney? You know
Robert schaff from anything else? You're you're kind of the
classics ficionado here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Well, I've seen him in the sting with Paul Newman
and Robert Redford. Okay, Unfortunately I've only seen that movie once,
but I do ironically have the DVD, and I've seen
him in a movie from I believe it was nineteen
sixty nine and he played I think it was King Louis,
the one that married Anne Boleyn. He played in that movie.

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I think it was called A Man for All Seasons.
Other than I have not watched a single one of
his films other than those.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Threcha King, Henry King, Henry They Yes, thank you, Yeah, sorry, yeah,
you got a couple of history buffs here on on
the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
That's okay, that's perfectly sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
All right, so yeah, yeah, so yeah, I agree with you, Joey.
Robert Shaw is definitely the most known for Jaws. Any
other any other things you want to add to to
Robert Shaw or Quint.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Yes, there is a deep cut reference to Jaws in
the last season of the TV series south Side, which
you I believe you can watch on Max. Uh if
you are from the from Illinois or just you are
very familiar with Chicago, Uh, you will. You will find

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out a character in that show is named after the actor,
and it comes up in a mystery mysterious episode of
a police officer trying to track down someone named after
a certain actor. And I don't want to say any
more than that except that you're gonna love it if

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you're from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Illinois, gotcha?

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Well, anyway, so they're they're now out hunting our shark, Bruce,
and uh they have they've been chumming the waters trying
to get something, and we get an interesting fishing sequence
in which, you know, you see the line kind of

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going out a little more. There's a there's a bit
of that that that's subtle, you know, tension building as
you know something's going to happen. And they managed to
uh to snag the snag shark or Bruce, and Quinn
does this really cool thing where he's just non schalantly
just putting the straps and so he can strap himself

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into that seat. And I just thought that was like
really cool because you can see that here's a guy
who is familiar with what's going on, he sees the signs,
and he's just he's all calm, cool, collected. He's ready
to take on the shark. You got anyone to have
any thoughts on that sequence?

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
I don't know what this dude is up to bro,
because I am not putting on a harness and hooking
that stuff to the pole that a great white shark
has attached to it. That I'm not me, Bro, someone
else could do that, because I ain't gonna do it,
all right, unless that harness is attached to the hull

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of the ship, and then that's cool. Can't be attached
to me, though, because I ain't going with it all right.
That that just just seems like a recipe for disaster.
I mean, we've seen how big this actually, I'm pretty
sure almost let me think here, No, at this point,
Quinn didn't see how big it was, but they have

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got reports on how big a thing probably should be
based on what Hooper.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, right right, yeah, you know Hooper like twenty feet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
So nah, not No, that's a failure. That's a big fail.

Speaker 6 (01:14:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
There's only two killers known for their bite radius, and
that's that's Bruce from Jaws and Ted Bundy.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
That's a deep cut.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Jeez, all right, how about you, Courtney, what do you
think of Quinn saddling up getting ready to take on
the shark.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I really don't have much to contribute to the scene
other than saying that it's a very tense moment. But
I will say kind of a weird thing. But I
guess you contribute it to like ASMR type deal. But
I find it fascinating. And I love the sound where
he does clip himself into the harness and that thing

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goes click click, like the way Stephen films that scene
and the way it clicks. I don't know, it's just
I like it. It's very similar to like some moments in
Jurassic Park because I grew up with that movie, and
how like some moments sound so nice to me that
I'm like, oh, I like that sound. It kind of
like similar to that, Like I love the way the

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clicker sound. So that's it for me.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Ought you weren't the only person who uh has that opinion, Courtney.
It won the Academy Award for Best Sound.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Well there you go. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
And then I don't know if we've addressed the uh
the elephant of a score in the room, but Spielberg
said the movie have only been half as successful if
it wasn't for the Best Original Dramatic Score by John Williams.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
Yeah, we did so.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
I think that the music in this film is a
character and it's it's literally I think it's kind of
half playing part of the shark.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah, yeah, we did. We did talk about that at
the beginning. We mentioned that John Williams probably the one
that really made this movie so suspenseful in the use
of his music and those those little simple notes of doud.
But I won't reiterate what we've already discussed before.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
Did you discuss how like, you know, my brother and
sister used to make that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Noise when I was a toddler, and it would make
me afraid to go in the bathtub.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
With something similar, Right, I did that with my own kids.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
Yeah, but I was like, no, I don't want to
go to I would literally like have these like surreal,
like nightmarish like thoughts that it was gonna the teeth
were literally going to come up through the fucking porcelain
and get me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And that's why even today, Joey won't take a shower
or bath. Only showers.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
I think so bad. I like, I smell like chum,
someone's been shumb in my water.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
And you only take showers. But you know, to each
his own, I guess anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
I love to smell my own brick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Wow, all right, well, anyway, so Quin's Quinn's battling the shark,
and they managed to get gets to a harpoon through it,
and they managed to get a barrel on it so
that they can kind of slow it down. They've even
like tied they've tied two lines onto it with with

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the cleats to kind of keep it to slow it down.
Am I getting ahead myself on that one?

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I think I'm getting to head myself on that one.
But yeah, maybe they managed to get a barrel on
it and it kind of helps. I don't quite understand
how this works.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Maybe someone Yeah, so apparently this is not for real, like,
this is not the way that they do this when
you're shot hunting. However, it does make sense. It's basically
has two purposes. First purpose is that it slows it down,
the shark down, and it makes the shark get more

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tired from having to pull the weight of the buoy
when it goes down into the water. And the other
thing that it does is it allows the the hunters
to track the shark because they can actually identify where
the yellow booy is. But but yeah, it never really

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was done in real life, and it did actually work
for the for the movie because, like we were saying earlier,
they wanted to limit the amount of exposure because of
the mechanics and stuff like we were talking about earlier.
So this was a way that they could basically make
sense of the hunting aspect, but also you know, show

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the audience round about where the shark was without showing
the shark with it, you know, at all, unless unless
there was being attacking or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Like that, right, And of course, you know I did
kind of gloss over it. And that was the scene
where they're dumping chum in the water and we get
the we get the famous line you know you're gonna
need a bigger bill And that was probably the best

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jump scare from aside from the head in the Hooper
that Joey had mentioned earlier. But yeah, that that jump
scare with the shark kind of popping up out of
the water there on Roy Schneider, that that always gets me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Yeah, what's his exact words. It's like, how about you
come down here and um this ship?

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Yeah, and then of course you know you're gonna need
a bigger boat.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
I tried out that line of my wife and uh,
then she started to chasing me around, and I gotta
say that the barrels do work. So she harprobed me
and that definitely slowed me down. It's kind of all
over from there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
And of course, you know, the shark gets away and
now we're left. It's it's like later that evening and
the guys are all kind of sitting around in the
in the makeshift mess hall area of the ship and
they start comparing scars. And I've always remembered this scene
played out later in the movie Lethal Weapon three, I

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think three Russo.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
And did they directly rip this off or did they
just think they were writing something original and they're like, oh, wait,
this is jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I don't know, but I just thought it was it
was kind of funny that, you know, they do the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a rip off. I think
it's something that I think it's something that guys do.
Let's be honest. You know girls do it in a
different way, but the specifically battle scars. Yeah, man, Yeah,
it's like that's a guy thing. It doesn't have to
be stolen from something else because it happens in real life.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Yeah, Courtney, how many how many women have have kind
of compared scars or you know, the only thing I
just think of is like mom's sections or.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Something, what they did over the summer, or what's what
their children are doing.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Or how well their children are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Too many women to talk to me on that score.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Honestly, they size each other up, but they are never
comparing scars.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
And then this is where Courtney never came back.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
She decided that that's a that's a wise decision, and
it's her decision, it's not mine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
You enjoyed.

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
I'm behind whatever she decides.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
I'm sorry anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:21:52):
I support women's rights anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
So the car the scar comparison leads to a wonderful
speed each done by Robert Shaw on the Indianapolis and
that that this long soliloquy on sharks and what someone
went through at the sinking of the Indianapolis, and Rick,

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did you do any digging on the actual.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
What's interesting is that just two days ago was the
first time that actually heard about the USS Indianapolis, which
was really interesting because the person I was talking to
was going through an existential crisis on whether or not
they can believe history as it is because of how

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unclear history is. I mean, you only know what is
being written, and unless you actually saw it happen, it's
not you know something you can believe one. But needless
to say, that was the that brought the bomb that

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was dropped on Hiroshima. And because the ship was supposed
to be in complete stealth mode or whatever like, they
had complete radio silence and everything that that that's why
when it was going down, because it got hit by
Japanese torpedoes allegedly, and when it was going down, because

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they were under strict orders for radio silence, they couldn't
actually send out a call for help or anything like that.
And the people, in fact, what he said in there
is true. I think he said something like three hundred
and sixteen or three hundred and sixty one were the
number of survivors, and was over one thousand men on

(01:23:50):
that ship before it sunk. So and the stuff that
he says is true. That they would actually get together
in small groups. They wouldn't just kind of chill, They
wouldn't move unless they absolutely had to so that the
sharks wouldn't be aware of their presence. They would try
to push people away that were dead, wounded, or even wounded.

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So because the blood and the water would attract the sharks.
And it's just absolutely crazy and horrific when you think
about it, that it's this not a movie. This is
like real life, you know. So to bring a character
who's has these suppose I mean obviously as a character

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has these experiences, and then puts that as one of
the hunters, the main hunter on the boat, it really
lets you believe that this person really has expertise in
hunting sharks. So I think it grants a bit of
respect for the character after that point.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Yes, I agree with you there totally.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
And you know, I prefer the superior film twenty sixteens
USS Indianapolis Colon Men of Courage starring Nicholas Cage that
I discovered a red box.

Speaker 6 (01:25:09):
You know, I think it's a better movie.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
I'm kidding, I've never seen it, but that's what this,
what he just described Nick Cage is literally they're not
making that up.

Speaker 6 (01:25:18):
There's a whole Nick Cage movie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Oh wow, I'll have to check that out.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
Yeah, or not and just watch a documentary in the USS.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
How about you, Courtney? Any thoughts on Quinn's speech.

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
Yeah, this is actually one of my favorite moments in
the film, and knowing that this is a legit story
makes it even more horrific and harrowing. And the documentary
that I pointed out to you guys earlier, which is
Jaws The Inside Story, which is on YouTube, they actually

(01:25:53):
did manage to get two of the guys that managed
to survive that horrific We're deal, and they do go
into some specifics, not they're not on screen for long,
but long enough to tell a little bit of their
story and it's heart wrenching, and you know, they were
very grateful that their story was in this movie. But

(01:26:18):
the one guy for sure said I'll never go see
it because you know, he'd already just seen too much.
He had been through too much, and you know, I
wouldn't blame him or anyone else who had been through
something like that. But they were both grateful that that
story was in this movie. And it turned out that,
you know, it's just one of those moments in film

(01:26:40):
history that is just so good, even if you take
out the actual real life events. You look at the
performance of Robert Shaw, and he's fantastic. And if I
the story goes that he came in doing that scene drunk,
because he came through a season. You know, he was
a hard drinker like your old actors like John Wayne,

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And he did the scene one day completely drunk. Then
he came in the next day did it completely sober.
And one of the guys in the production said, you
can watch that scene and you will never figure out
which part he's sober and which part he is not sober,
because it is just a fantastic performance, and it is.

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It's one of his best moments in the film for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah. And if I remember right from another documentary, they
said that his performance for that scene was so so
heart wrenching and moving that like everyone in the cast
was just stunned after he finished the first take and
they were like, oh wow, we got he got it

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down pat. It was amazing. So yeah, it's probably one
of the finer points of the movie in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
I especially love the line when he says it's got
lifeless size black guys like a doll's eyes. That is
just such a great line and the way he portrays it,
it's wow, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Yeah, and there's even that point where he talks about
how you know it's lifeless eye and then the eyes
like roll up and you can kind of see that
it's going into its feeding frenzy, which if you've ever
seen the Meg series, the second in that and that's
two movies, Meg two, there's a scene where you see

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the shark's eyes and they actually roll up. So I
think they're like they're taking that out of Jaws as
well as out of real life, because I guess sharks
really do their eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
That was about saying it's it's called the Discovery Channel, right, they.

Speaker 6 (01:28:46):
Really do do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
So I just I just thought that was a cool
point in the in the speech. So right on, Okay,
so here we are. We're now going into act three.
The we're coming into the pivotal point another film, The
Shark's relentless attack forces the trio to devise a desperate
plan to kill the creature. Hooper, using a shark proof

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cage and poisoned spear, attempts to subdue the shark, but
the shark's strength and cunning prove formidable. Brody, facing the
shark's final assault, uses a harpoon and apparel to finally
kill the shark, saving himself and his fellow crew members.
The resolution sees the Shark's death restoring peace and safety

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to Amity Island and Brody's transformation into a hero, having
overcome his fear faced not only from the shark, but
the greatest challenge of the water. So I thought it
was neat that. You know, again, they're using these barrels,
and they managed to get a second barrel on the shark.
And with the two barrels going, you know, the quint's

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kind of shooting at the shark as well, and Brody
pulls out his like service revolver and s are shooting
at him, and I don't know, I don't think that's
that that service revolver. It's probably shooting twenty two's. I
really wish Tim was here because then he can kind
of address this since he's our like armors expert. But
I don't see that twenty two like penetrating the shark's
skin or shooting get shooting the shark? Anyone got any

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I think.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
It would have been very helpful at the end when
the boat's going down and it's like right there, right,
and Bruce looks his most facous right, Yeah, I think
it would have been. Yeah, Like he literally could have
held it up to the his dolls eye and pulled
the trigger and killed twenty two. By the way, if
you want a better U, if you want a better

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Robert Shaw parody than that. It's one of the only
reasons to watch the movie. It's called Masters of Disguise.
Master of Disguise with Dana Carvey. He does an excellent,
excellent impersonation, much better than me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I saw that movie when I was a kid, The Disguises.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
That's the perfect time to watch that movie because when
you get it, like if you're above fourteen, you're just like, uh, this.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Isn't Dana Carvey has done better.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
This is Turtally, it's too totally your Turtle club.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
I think I'm the only one here that has the second.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
You're not you're not missing up mone just look up
Master Disguise and then like Quint and Dana Carvey and
just watch that minute seventeen one minute seventeen seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Since that's all you u watch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
It with your kids, Okay, all right? So yeah, so
they managed to get two barrels, and then then they
managed to get a third barrel, and then that's when
we really see, you know, the terror attack, because you
know you're now watching the barrels on the water to
see which way the shark's coming, and I thought it
was kind of interesting that Quint had they managed to

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get to get the shark tied to the cleats of
the boat, and Quint has got this idea that he's
going to drag the shark in and he's basically redlining
the boat. Now. Is it just me or did you
get the sense that he's doing this out of his
own fear of this shark? Anyone got any thoughts on that?

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
No, I think it's more the Moby Dick white whale,
and he's just stubborn. Yeah, I think I think his
I think this shark's bruised his ego and it's made
him make some miscalculations and misjudgments. And it's also pissing
them off because he ruined his boat. Because is he

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getting paid enough to buy another boat?

Speaker 6 (01:32:33):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Well, I believe it's ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Yeah. I think it's a little bit of both. I
think that you know that Joey's analogy to Moby Dick
is solid. That's something I thought of pretty much the
whole entire film. But that being said, I think that
Captain Ahab, much like Quint, is also fearful of the

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creatures of this particular creature of the sea.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
How about you, Courtney. Any thoughts on Quint's motivation there
as he's redlined in his boat got ready to seize
the engine up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Yeah, I think I think because of what we know
and what he's been through, it's basically on his part
of revenge take and he just wants to get rid
of the shark. But because the shark keeps out winning
these guys, he's losing his patience. So I would have
to agree with both Joey and Dungeon Mastuf, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Okay, Well, I did think that it was neat that
as the as the ship is, you know, taking on
water and possibly of going down, Quin does pull out
three or two of the life vests and offers him
to Quint and not Quint offers him to Brody and Hooper.
And it's kind of kind of was foreshadowed before when

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he was talking about the Indianapolis how he says he'll
never put on a life vest again, And I just
thought that that kind of really helps with that whole
fear situation when he's when he's redlining the boat. At
least that was my thought as far as explain the
character's motivation.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah, I think that it's important to point out that
this movie did a pretty good job of foreshadowing throughout
the whole thing, and that's it's that's I appreciate that
from the film.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
Yeah, I would agree too, Like bring into when Brodie's
taking the gun and shooting at the shark. I don't
know if you guys caught it, but whenever Brody and
the whole beach is running to the pond and everything,
and Brody jumps over the fence or whatever and runs
on the beach, you can hear someone in the background

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going does anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Have a gun?

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Why does that one have a gun? Or something like that.
So it brings that back a little bit. It's like, oh, okay, hey,
but here he has a gun and it's not working
on good old Bruisy Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah, yep. So, I mean, it really does a good
job of clearing up any plot holes there might be
by going backtracking in the script and saying, hey, we
need to have a line in here so that it
makes sense for him to have a gun. Hey, we
need to go back in the script and make sure
it makes sense that everyone knows that this oxygen tank

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could be a problem. Hey, we got to go back
in the script and you know, make sure these different things.
It's I thought it was really good.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
Has that ever been a line in a movie yet
where it's like, we're I think we're gonna need a
bigger gun cause it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
I know there's a lot of a lot of parodies
and play on words with Jaws, don't go in the water.

Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
No one can hear you screaming space.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
I don't know, we'd have to We'll have to go
back and take some of those parody films, you know,
like Naked Gun or something, because if it's anywhere, it's
gonna be in the Naked Gun series, I think. So. Yeah,
So that you know, they're they're wrestling with the shark
and and they decide that they're going to use the cage,
and uh, that basically sparks this big attack by Bruce

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and uh, poor poor Hooper he drops the spear like
after the first hit, and that take that that tank
just gets torn up by the or that cage gets
torn up by by a real shark, and I'm like, wow.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
That's where we get to see our real shark footage
and you know who doesn't a huge attackic cage, but
he doesn't successfully done it because they are shark.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Yeah, but they they managed to like bend this thing
up and make it look like it was really well,
you know, eaten destroyed. And uh, Hooper is smart and
he like manages to hide in some some reef somewhere.
And I'm like, boy, you and I think that you know,
Hooper's done done.

Speaker 6 (01:37:02):
For you know, he's which he is in the book.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Okay, So I've never read read this book of Jaws.

Speaker 5 (01:37:08):
No, I just looked up the differences, and he screws Brodie's.

Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
Wife and he died.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
Cordy's shaking her head. She's like, you know, I don't
like the way he said it, but that is what
it's in the book.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
I've never read the book either, I will be honest
with you, but part of me I kind of want to.
But I've seen or have read so many negative reviews,
mostly dealing that the book the characters are completely unlikable,
whereas they're way more likable in the film. And I'm like, well,
do I really want to read the book then if

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I'm really going to hate everyone? And considering Hooper is
one of my favorite characters in the film. I don't
like what he does in the book.

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
I I don't see the book scaring the ship out
of me like the movie does too. Yeah, there's you're
not gonna get John Williams score. Your imagination is probably
gonna make the shark look at more real.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I said, you could get the John Williams score if
you play this, if you play the soundtrack on loop
as you read the book, that might help.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
The plot points are you're like just continually like in
sense of Dread, but you're just reading about like this
affair because they it goes into like there's a lot
of subplots and there's a lot more character development, but
that's to be expected.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
It's yeah, anyway, uh, how about you rick any any futs?
I'm sorry, Courney, No, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
I was just gonna say that if I'm not mistaken.
The script also was gonna basically kill Hooper off, but
because the footage of the real Shark was not planned
and he got stuck and that footage was just so
powerful they wanted to use it, they changed it to
let Hooper live. And for me, I'll be grateful for
that because I don't want to see Richard Dreyvis die.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
How about you, Rick, any thoughts on the cage.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
No, I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't get in
no cage. Not me, man. That was one of the
moments I said. There was a bunch of times and
I said, oh my god, that's crazy. That was one
of the times and I was like, oh my god,
that's crazy. Now again, I've watched a bunch of Shark
Week and I know they use cages to observe sharks,

(01:39:32):
not this shark. I'm not getting to it. You can
see what they did. But the thing was messing with boats,
a top of the boat. Matter of fact, I think
it was earlier that night. The shark was ramming into
the boat, putting separating the boards in the hall. I mean,
you gotta know that a cage isn't safe. Even Quinn

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was like, yeah, that's not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
What's set lines on the sharks in the water, cages
in the water. You're in the cage.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
I don't know. I wouldn't be in the cage.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
He was basically calling him stupid. He's living in this
straight How stupid are you?

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
I wouldn't do it. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Yeah, I'm not getting in a in a shark cage,
of course I'm not. I'm not real keen on, like
I said, the the open water where you really can't
see more than two feet down.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Yeah, look man.

Speaker 6 (01:40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
By the way, Courtney Hooper does die in the book,
and no, no, I was gonna say, in the world
of cinema, he dies in the opening scene of Piranha
three D that came out in twenty ten, and it's
Richard Dreyfus and he's dressed the same way.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
So they're heavily implying that it's Hooper that is.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
That's sad. As for the whole shark thing, There's no
way I would get into a cage with a shark. However,
I have always wanted to swim with dolphins and pet
and orcle whale. Those are still things I want to do.
But no, if someone said, hey, it's completely free, I
don't care if it be free or not. Do you
want to go in a in a cage and look
at a shark? I say nothings.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
When you get into the water with a dolphin and
you can see how fast they swim, you know that
you are just dead. You are absolutely dead. There's they
move so fast in the water. You're just there's no hope.
There's no hope. I mean you've got to pray for
luck or something, because otherwise you're dead.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
I swim with sharks at Disney and they were they
were they were the size of catfish.

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
They were they not big catfish.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
They were Yeah, they look like they could be in
someone's very big home tank.

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
Uh. The scariest thing was how cold the water was.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
And I I have the footage somewhere, but yeah, so uh,
technically I've swam with sharks. I've been attacked by tack dogs,
uh in a trained environment. And I have been shot
with a taser kind of like getting hard you know
the harpoons with the uh the barrels.

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
But that's for another story.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
And it was all in a training environment and I'm
an idiot volunteer. And the dogs were really nice, by
the way, like as soon as they like give him
the the the okay, like.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
They were cool, So it was actually not scary.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
See that scar, that's my that's my that's my tach
dog star.

Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
Yeah yeah all.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Right, Well anyway, so yeah, so now we're we're kind
of like that. At that pivotal moment, you know, Hooper's
missing that the cage is destroyed and the shark has
now basically attacked the orca, and poor Robert Shaw Quint
is sliding into the mouth of Bruce the shark. And

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I think this is the only spot in the movie
where the shark looks a little hokey. You know, you
can definitely see where you know why Steven Spielberg shot
around the shark. And it is pretty gory though. It
is pretty bloody, and I gotta say, I I think
it's it's both comical and scary at the same time,

(01:43:25):
if that's possible. To the panels, what do you guys
think of poor Quinn's death? And I'll ask you first, Rick.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Oh my god, it was so brutal, man, it was
so brutal. It was getting eaten. And He's like, ah,
it was. It was awesome, man, It was totally awesome.
But I the the special effects didn't really affect me
too much. I thought it was fine enough. I was
good enough. I I mean, I realized that it's not

(01:43:55):
a real shark, but it was good enough. It didn't
take me out of the experience at all. Maybe others might,
but it didn't for me. I was cool. Man. I
thought I thought it was brutal, but it was. Yeah.
I don't know, man, it was. It was brutal. It
was good. It was good. I liked it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
It was If you want the quin experience, uh, it's
not gonna be a great white. But I want to say,
if I remember correctly, at the Ripley's Aquarium of the
Smokies in Gatlinburg, Tennessee, my first thought was, Oh, if
someone who's not of sound.

Speaker 6 (01:44:35):
Mind wanted to, you can totally jump.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Like into the top of a pool where like at
their shark as a shark take over there. And I
don't know if you're gonna get bitten, but I guess
you could chum yourself up first.

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
You'll get the Quinn experience.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Nice, All right, Corny, how about you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
I probably shouldn't tell people where it is that they should.
They should put gate or a nat or something over that.
But that was my first thought. I was like, oh,
you I could jump right in there. I'm not going
to because I saw some fins and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
I was like, fuck this. I was like, this is scary.
I don't even be near.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
It, all right, how about you, Courtney, I about some
sense of uh of consciousness here, you know, so we're
not jumping into into shark tanks.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
Yeah, it's definitely one of the scariest moments in the film.
But I just it's one of those ones I don't
like to watch. I can mostly sit and watch this movie,
but that scene, I'm not gonna lie. I fast forward
that scene most of the time because I just don't.
I don't like the the agony he goes through, and

(01:45:45):
it's sad that we hear what he had already gone
through with the shipmates, but he managed to survive, and
then he goes out the same way many of his
other shipmates did, so it makes it even more tragic
when you're not listening to the scream and if you're
looking at the actual shark and the fakeness of it,
you know, which doesn't bother me per se. I'm one

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of those people that can look at that and go,
you know what, if it looks fake, at least it's there.
It looks real. Compared to a lot of the special
effects nowadays, which is mostly CGI. Some people still do
practical effects, but practical effects faded a lot more with

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the practice with the actual special effects. I think, so
I appreciate the actual shark being.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
There, right, Yeah, it is need to see something that
exists in the same moment. I mean, it's not unlike other,
you know, more modern shark films where like a giant
tornado comes down and picks up sharks out of the
water and uses them to kill people shark Nato, Yeah,
or you know, a non existent megaladon attacking you know,

(01:46:58):
a vessel like a quarter of its size. It does
look a little off. It is kind of neat to
see the practical unit of a shark there. I'm always
big on the practical effects.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
In the best Jaws sequel, Jaws The Revenge, of course
they there. There was some CGI done seven years ago
or more where they redid some chark shape shop. Yeah,
they redid some shark chase scenes with CGI current technology,

(01:47:31):
well seven years ago now versus you know, the the
best Bruce of the series by far. Obviously I'm being sarcastic,
and so if you want to watch that, it's just
called uh Jaws the Revenge Shark Chase sequence VFX. I
highly recommend seeing it. I wish they would redo like.

(01:47:52):
And when I say they, I don't mean the studio.
I mean some amateur tries to like make Jaws look
better than it it did. I would like to see
what that would look like with today's tech.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Gotcha, Well how about you, Rick? Any any thoughts on
on the mechanical Shark and Quinn's death.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Yeah, Like I said, I thought it was good, and uh,
I mean and I and I don't mean to offend.
It sounds like, okay, maybe maybe when I when I
yelled out what Quit was screaming in agony, might have
Actually I apologize, m.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Gotcha all right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
It's when he screams and the blood comes out of
his mouth. I think that's when, Uh, most children are
scarred for life.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
That's why that was good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
And it's again it's PG. It's right at PG parental.
And then of course children die. Quit is bitten in
half and.

Speaker 6 (01:48:56):
Then dragged into the water.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
But then there's a there's a heroic moment with Brody
in the fact that he's able to get the shark
to get an auction tank stuck in between its jaws,
and yeah, that.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Happens to be the most facous looking part of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'll admit that. I mean it is need
to have the practical effect there, but yeah, his his
teeth did not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
It looked like this shark was in a cigar in
its mouth. I thought it was cool. I was like, dude,
this guy is like a serious shark man. Look at this.
So like at the very end when he has bad
oxygen tank in his mouth and he's coming for Brody

(01:49:41):
and Brody's like shooting at it, being like he's what
does he say? He says something like hit it or
you could see it under the water when he's coming
and it's like on the left hand side of his
mouth and you could see it look like it looks
like it looks like he's got a cigar and his off.
I was like, all right, cool man, this guy's the

(01:50:03):
shark is ready ready to have some fun.

Speaker 6 (01:50:07):
So so my mistake I forgot.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
They did see g I the re do the the
ending of Jaws, but all they did was put googly
eyes on the shark.

Speaker 6 (01:50:18):
H So googly eyes Jaws, you want to search that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
It's uh quin Quint's not not coughing up rainbows.

Speaker 6 (01:50:27):
But other than that, it's still gory, but it's more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Well, uh yeah, I I I do have to agree
with you, Rick, it does. It does look a little
weird seeing that tank in there, and and of course,
you know, Brody suddenly becomes a crack shot and he's
able to shoot that thing. We get this huge explosion,
and I just thought it was really cool that the
way they they managed to they managed to finish off

(01:50:51):
the movie Jaws and just blow the blow the shark
out of the water. I guess it's far better than
jumping the shark on skis so and then of course
that's when Hooper shows back up and the two decide
that they are going to build a raft out of
the rest of the barrels and swim back to shore,

(01:51:14):
and then we get credits. So just final thoughts then,
guys and gal on the end of the movie. What
did you think, Courtney as far as watching Jaws this
time around?

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
Oh, it's such a fun movie and that that ending
is just so good, Like when that shark goes into
the boat and he puts that thing in his mouth
and then he climbs up and he's poking on which
I will admit, if you're going to talk about how
fake the the shark looks. That's probably one that I

(01:51:49):
would point out because he's literally poking rubber and I
think you can tell a little bit, but it's still
a fun moment. And then you know that music pumps
and he's shooting. He's like, come on, smile. When he
shoots and he finally gets blown up, it's so good
and you can almost side with relief as the shark,
you know, the Remains of the Shark goes down and

(01:52:11):
that score changes too, very light, and then you know,
Hooper and Brody just go home. It just it turns
into a very light ending and very heroic ending, and
it's what you want. Was such a great movie like this, right?

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
How about you, Joey, what'd you think of the end?
What do you think of the ending?

Speaker 6 (01:52:35):
I think it was the.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
Right decision because of Quin's Quinn just drowned in the book.
I want to say it was Hooper that got eaten
or something, but because Quin's death was so.

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
Well, it's tragic because he finally.

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
Died the way his shipmates did on the USS Indianapolis,
and b because you know, because it was so grad effect,
I think it was the right decision to have Hooper live,
not only because you know it's going to be a
sad float home, but also because he did not screw

(01:53:13):
Brody's wife like the book, and so people wanted him
to live.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
And.

Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
It's it's a happy ending of sorts, unless you know,
you know about all the sequels.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Right, all right, Rick, what are your thoughts on the
on the end of the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
So the first half of the movie was pretty suspenseful.
Like I said, I really thought that it was kind
of like very good water type of horror film with
on a beach and all that stuff. I thought it
was really cool. Once they got into the open water,
the rising action was really started. It only built at

(01:53:54):
a very very slow pace for me, and it just
seemed to lose steam, much like the boat did at
the end of the film. So, I mean, that'd be
the only gripe that I have to say. Otherwise, I
thought that it was a really well done movie. I
think that it holds up. I don't care what anyone

(01:54:16):
says about the shark. I thought it looked good enough
for me. I mean, whether it was in the water
or you know, the scenes where it jumped out of
the water and stuff. I mean, I mean, I don't know.
I guess yes, maybe it takes a little bit, removes
a little bit of suspension for disbelief for some people.

(01:54:39):
It didn't for me. I thought it was good enough.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
I mean, I know what I'm watching and stuff like that,
So I was totally able to keep my suspension of
disbelief while I'm watching through the whole thing. It's just
the pacing toward the end. You just need to move faster,
not slower towards the end. That was my only.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
Problem, gotcha, Okay, Yeah, you know, I I really, I
really do enjoy the ending of this movie, mainly because
again I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the angle of
the score. You know, John Williams has those points in
the film where you know, you get these heroic themes
going throughout the end of this movie that you just

(01:55:21):
you can feel it. When Brody finally succeeds in destroying
the shark, and I often wondered, you know, Okay, so
he killed the Apex predator in the water of Amity
Island when it was falling. There should have been a
lot of blood. So wouldn't that have churned up more sharks?
You know, maybe some more like Tiger sharks showing up

(01:55:41):
or something, so I would have been more afraid of
other sharks showing up when I'm trying to swim back
to shore. But that's my own personal gripe towards, you know,
a nitpick towards the storyline. So yeah, well that has
been Jaws. So ladies and gentlemen, is this worth taking

(01:56:06):
two hours and ten minutes off of your death clock?
And since you're our guest tonight, Courtney, please let us
know do you think this is worth taking that time
off your death clock?

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Absolutely? I mean, if you count, you know how great
the suspense is and how great the characters are. You know,
the actual story is a great movie. But I also
like to point out, aside from the great score that
John Williams gives us, we've talked about like that great
theme and how that suspense goes up to one hundred,

(01:56:39):
especially with the score, but we also John Williams gives
us bits of like adventure and fun into it, like
when they all go out to see for the first
time and Quinn's laughing about something. That score has like
little flutes. It makes it sound like they're going on
a little sea bearing adventure and it's so cute, and

(01:57:01):
then you have moments of humor and tenderness. The moment
where Brody is with his son and his son mimics
his mannerisms, very sweet. The funny moments like when Quinn
crushes his soda can and then Hooper just takes his
little pham cup and crushes that. The you know, the
comparing of the scars and you know them singing on

(01:57:25):
the boat. There's a lot of great moments in this
movie as well as the suspense. It's definitely worth checking
out for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
All right, well how about you, Rick, what do you
think of Jaws? Is it worth taking two hours and
ten minutes off your dusk?

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
So, like I said, I only watched it the whole
way through just today, just a little bit before we
started taping, and I was hooked, like you know, through
the whole thing. I was like, dude, this is like
a really good movie. I'm surprised I never really gave
it enough time to watch it all the way through.
So I would say, yeah, definitely, if you're anything like me,

(01:58:04):
yeah I haven't watched it like I hadn't then, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
All right, all right, Joey, is there is it three
in a row. Is it worth taking time off duh?
All right, well, I am right there with you, guys. Yes,
I think it is definitely worth taking time off your
death clock. It's a it's a fifty year old classic,

(01:58:30):
you know, it's it's been around the block several times.
There's so many pop culture references to this film. If
you haven't at least heard the theme or you know
some of the lines in the movie, you've been living
under a rock for the last fifty years. So yeah,
it's definitely worth taking time off of your death clock.
So there we go, all right. Well, at this point

(01:58:53):
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(01:59:13):
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(01:59:35):
So that that leads us to, then, what are you
guys watching? You know, what's What's something new that you're
not that's not Jaws that you're really digging that you
want to share with the rest of our audience. And
I'll go over to you first, Joey, since you haven't
been around to tell us what's what's new lately?

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):
I'm watching my way I was. I found out on vitamin.

Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
D deficient and apparently if you get fat enough you
they don't know why, but you stop absorbing vitamin D.
I guess because you stored so much in your body
fat and then like your vitamin D deficient.

Speaker 6 (02:00:12):
So I've been watching my weight. I need to lose weight. Well,
you know what, I haven't been doing too much else.

Speaker 5 (02:00:17):
It's been a busy week and I'm trying to think
of anything I've I've gotten to see. I caught up
on on on What If on Disney Plus because my
my promotional, my promotional rate for watching all these God
blessed commercials. I was gonna go up to nine ninety nine,

(02:00:38):
so I had to catch up on that and it
was okay. And I think they're done with What If
for now. If they do another one, I'll be surprised.
So I think I think what If is what has been.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
Now two seasons? Okay? Yeah, So Courtney, what are you watching?
What's What's What's newest on your channel? What do you
want other people to know about?

Speaker 4 (02:01:05):
Well? As far as the channel, I will be tackling
the last of the Nancy Drew Quadrerie four movie series. Sorry,
that will be coming out this Friday, and.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
Then off It's quadrilogy.

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
Yeah, thank you. And then for the rest of June,
I tackled three of Esther Williams movies, so I'm so
excited to get those uploaded. And today I have not
gotten to watch anything other than a James Cagney documentary
which was pretty good, and I want to see more
of his movies. Speaking of watching something new, how many

(02:01:42):
of y'all saw the trailer for season five of Stranger Things?

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
Not yet?

Speaker 6 (02:01:51):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
There's there's several teasers that I'm told I need to
watch and I haven't seen them yet. Allegedly there's a
teaser for the new Praise sequel, you know, the Partator franchise.
I just found out about Stranger Things. When did that
draw night? Oh yeah I was. I was babysitting drunks.

(02:02:13):
I haven't done that a long time.

Speaker 6 (02:02:14):
So I not get to see that. I will should
here here.

Speaker 5 (02:02:17):
I have a question for you. Should I avoid it
and just going cold? Or do you like, did you
see anything where? Like you know, is it all teases
or do you think like they gave something away and
maybe I shouldn't want Oh no, they.

Speaker 4 (02:02:29):
Added some new scenes. I mean they show some old ones,
but it starts out with a new scene and it
ends with new scenes, and I personally am pumped.

Speaker 6 (02:02:43):
Do the kids look thirty?

Speaker 4 (02:02:44):
They do not look thirty, but they do look grown
up for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:02:48):
Awesome?

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Okay, all right, Rick, how about our wonderful gaming master?
What do you got for us?

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
So? Uh? I know that Shogun came out like forever Go,
but I've watched that whole thing through recently, and my god,
it's such a good TV show. For those who haven't
seen Showgun, it's a Samurai game of Thrones. It was

(02:03:15):
really good. Man got caught up mostly on and Or.
I still got the last I think three episodes to watch,
and same thing with Last of Us, I got some
of that to do and and and while here's something
I want to put out there. While I haven't watched
this in a while, being that we were talking about

(02:03:37):
some World War two stuff, I would like to put
out there that there is a really really good World
War two mini series. It's not really a TV show.
It's I think ten episode of mini series from HBO.
It's called Band of Brothers, and it's regarded as probably
the best TV show ever. It It has tons and

(02:04:03):
tons of actually like really good actors in it. It's crazy,
and it's true to form for the most part, to
history of the Storming of Normandy and stuff like that.
It's just really good. If you haven't seen it, then
whether you're into World War two stuff or not, I

(02:04:23):
really highly admonish you to check it out. And if
you liked it, there's there's another one. It's called The
Pacific where it takes a look at the Pacific Front,
the Pacific theater of the war. I wouldn't say it's
as good as Band of Brothers, but it's definitely good.
So I figured, being that we were talking about the
USS Indianapolis, I should probably mention.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Well, it's it's nice that you segued into another Steven
Spielberg project, because if I remember right, that is executive
produced by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. So way to
be synergi just synergynistic in your got you recommendation And
so all right, well, I don't have anything major to
talk about, but I did go back to nineteen eighty

(02:05:09):
and I watched a classic from Greek mythology called Clash
of the Titans because my kid, my youngest daughter, is
finished up her homeschooling and one of the last things
we talked about was the Greek some of the Greek
goddesses and gods in her history class, and of course

(02:05:32):
we discussed a couple characters that show up and Clash
of the Titans. So I had to watch it with
her again because she doesn't she didn't remember it, which
is fine, but yeah, I forgot how much fun that
movie was with the classic Ray harry House and stop
animation characters, and I was like, yeah, this is this
is old school.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
I just recently saw something on the remake that came
out and what two thousand something? Another thought that one
was good too.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Yeah, and if I remember right, that one was shot
specifically for three D because there's a lot of scenes
where it seems like everything's being forced into the camera.
So but all right, well, I think that's all we
got for tonight, So I'm going to go ahead, and
I want to say thank you Courtney for joining us

(02:06:23):
on our discussion for Jaws. We really appreciate you coming
on and giving us some of your wonderful sunshine happiness
from Classics with Courtney, And uh where can the rest
of our listeners hear more of your stuff?

Speaker 4 (02:06:42):
So you guys can be able to find me on
my YouTube channel under Classics with Courtney. Of course I
upload every Friday, or at least try to. You can
also reach me on my Instagram page and my Facebook
page under the same name, and for an extra I
recently created a email account Classics with Courtney at outlook

(02:07:04):
dot com, so you can also reach me on there
as well.

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
All right, well, Rick, since Tim's not here, you want
to take us home.

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Speaker 6 (02:07:46):
Smile you great white son of a beasting.

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