Episode 65 - Total Recall (Get your A$$ to Mahs) - Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, Welcome to the Middle Aged Movieviews podcast. Three guys saying,
ever heard of recall? They sell those fake memories? Don't
go there. A friend of ours once try one of
their special offers near the gattlebottomize you should just stick
to the podcast. My name is Tim and my podcasting
partners are Joey.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
And Rick from the Dungeon Master Elite YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh right, Joey, why don't you tell us what memory
we may or may not be experiencing tonight?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Tonight we are reviewing the nineteen ninety movie Total Recall
number eight hundred and fifty five from the look of
one thousand and one Movies you Should Watch Before You Die?
Written by Philip K. Dick, Ronald Shust and Dan O'Bannon,
directed by Paul Verhoven and starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sharon Stone

(01:15):
and Canada's Pride Michael Ironside.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Joey, don't go too far since you gave us that
awesome intro. When was the first time you can recall
watching Total Recall.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
It's funny you should ask that, because I don't recall.
I think I saw it at the movie theater, but
I don't remember who I saw it with, which is
usually a sign that I saw something on home video.
But I know I watched this like many many times
on VHS and later watch it many many times on cable.
It's like, oh, Total Recalls on didn't matter where it's at.

(01:51):
It's like I'm watching Total Recall now. It's like all
the rest of the day's plans are fuck, gotta finish
Total Recall. It's been several years since I watched it.
I gottatched Total Recall again. But yeah, yeah, I don't remember.
I think I saw it on the big screen because
I would have been eleven, and by then we were
a Schwarzenegger household. Although this is by far I would

(02:11):
say Schwarzenegger's bloodiest movie. My parents wouldn't have known that,
and I think this my dad would have taken us
to this movie. It seemed like we'd seen Predator at
the theater and that came out before this, so I'm
pretty sure we were probably visiting family in Ohio and
went and saw it with my uncle. So it'd been
like Dad is brother and bringing the youngins to see

(02:32):
Total Recall. But I can't say for sure, isn't a
memory implant? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
All right, Well, how about you, Rick, is it a
big blank space for you or do you get some
memories out of when you've seen Total Recall?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I really don't know. I know it was some time
in the nineties. I definitely did not go in the
movie theater. I think the first movie that I ever
saw in a theater was when Braveheart came out. That
was the first thing I ever saw, which, by the way,
if you want a review for a Brave Heart, there's
a review here on our podcast for Braveheart, so check

(03:06):
that one out. But that was the first thing I
ever saw, So it definitely wasn't that I know for
a fact that I had never seen this in the
movie theater. Kind of like many of you guys probably
seen it, maybe not the first time, but you definitely
probably called it a USA or like TNT or something
like that, and one of those cable channels where they had,
you know, certain cuts that didn't include as much of

(03:28):
the Blood and Gore. But I know I've seen it
a bunch of times because I've always liked it ever
since I saw the first time. It's always great, all
right myself.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I know I've seen this in the theater probably more
than once, because this is right at the top of
Schwarzenegger's career. I mean, and much like Joey said, our
household was definitely an Arnold Schwarzenegger household. So I probably
went with my father and then probably went with my
friends because this was such an era starting like eighty fourth,

(04:00):
The Terminator, Sonia, Commando, Raw Deal, Predator, The Running Man,
Red Heat, We're up to total recall. And then after
this one starts to Wayne, it's about every other and
then every couple of other movies are really good, and
he starts to I don't want to say, do duds,
but he starts to do Diminishing Returns. But right now
we are at the height of his career for sure.

(04:22):
And yeah, I've seen it several times in the theater.
And then, like Joey said, I've seen a VHS. I'm
watching DVD. It's one of those every time it comes on, Yeah,
you just stop and you watch it. It's all those
movies I named. You're just any of those. Come on,
you're pretty much the TV stand on whatever, you're doing
your half doing that and watching the movie, if not
totally committed to those movies. So I just loved watching

(04:45):
all that late eighties, early nineties, you know, Schwarzenegger, Escua movies.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
So like you feel what Arnold says and the Predator.
When you see one of these movies, you feel that
urge to do it? Do it not?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, absolutely, com on, watch me get.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
To the couch exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, So I just
love this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, it was just it was such a great
time cinema because we had him, we had Sylvester Stallone
putting out just as many good films as him. I mean,
it was a competition between those two guys. We just
it was such a golden age of the action film
mi late eighties in the early nineties. It was just
a great time for cinema, this style of movie. So
before we moved too far into our love fest here

(05:36):
on this movie, I think we should probably move into
the synopsis. And Joey, I'm hoping I can tag you
out since Matt is not with us this evening to
read the synopsis. Are you willing to do it?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
You know I'm willing to try anything twice.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh right, well, then here's what I would like you
to do tonight, sir, Since you have bravely volunteered for
the task, I would like you to read our synopsis
as the Johnny Cab driver trying to bring a confused
passenger up to speed.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Oh hi, you're awake again. Welcome to Johnny Cab. Please
state the street and number. You look confused. Let me help.
The year is twenty eighty four and your name is
Douglas Quaid. You received a vacation memory implant at Recall
which exposed your cover. You were attacked by your coworkers,
then by your wife, but managed to escape. A man

(06:29):
gave you the briefcase you're holding. In it, you found
a video of yourself revealing that you are actually Hauser,
a former enforcer for Mars planetary administrator vilos Cohagen. Allegedly,
Hauser defected to join the rebels. You travel to Mars
to uncover a conspiracy involving an alien artifact. The Recall

(06:50):
spokesperson later confronts you, claiming your vacation has gone awry
and that you're suffering from paranoid delusions. Now you're here repeat,
waking up trying to figure out what's real? Are you
Hauser a double agent set to sabotage the rebels or
Douglas Quaid a rebel sympathizer uncovering a corrupt conspiracy. Help

(07:12):
that clears things up? Now place, buck up and enjoy
the ride nicely.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, that was very very well done, sir.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
That was sweet.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh, Matt has definitely got some competition in you. All right, Well,
let's move into the movie proper here. We got a
lot to talk about. So what I really like about
this movie is it actually is a futuristic movie that they,
I don't know, put into the future. This is actually
set in twenty eighty four on Mars, which has been
colonized under the tyrannical regime of Velos Codhagen, and he's

(07:50):
controlling basically Uppervidium or that's on.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
There.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
We meet a construction worker named Douglas Quaid who's kind
of experiencing all these kind of reoccurring dreams about bars.
He's just fascinated with that. He's having dreams about it
and dreams about a mysterious woman that's on Mars too,
that you know, might cause him some marital strife. His
wife seems to be a little jealous about this recurring
dream of this mystery woman. He's become so obsessed with

(08:13):
this that he ends up visiting Recall, the company that
basically implants realistic false memories, and he decides that he
wants to do one on Mars, against the advice of
his wife and his friends, and when they start the
implant of the actual vacation into his head, he freaks
out and he thinks he really is a secret agent
that they've blown his cover. It's a pretty interesting the

(08:33):
way the movie starts. What are you guys thoughts on this?
I really enjoyed the setup for this movie. I thought
was really well thought out.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I love the beginning. The music just from the opening credits,
like my brain incorrectly like completed the music because it
sounds like Conan the Barbarian but it changes.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh yeah, Gypt of Fury.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
The movie's really kind of unrelenting.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I think the guy who did Conan the Barbarian didn't
he write the music for this.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's possible, man, I will have to.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Spot check that.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think that might be the case.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
The song was Gift of Fury that it's a lot
like I don't know who made it, I can't remember,
but yeah, a lot of the beginning measures sound exactly
like it.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's two different composers. Jerry Goldsmith did Total Recall and
Basil Polodorus did both the Conan movies. But you know
you're telling Jerry Goldsmith, you're composing a score for an
epic Arnold Schwarzenegger movie and there's gonna be more violence
than you can possibly believe. Well, it's the next most
violent Arnold movie that had come out to that point.

(09:38):
It's Conan, So maybe he drew inspiration from from there.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I think Predator might be a close second in that one.
There was a lot of bullets shedding that one.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, it's hard to argue we'd actually have to do
stats on blood, beheadings, disembowelments. Yeah, definitely. The most people
get shot.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, I think the body counts like seventy seven in
Total Recall.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I love the hotshots part dues making fun of the
body counts and they were literally showing the body counts
to different movies, and then he was mowing people down
and it was showing that he exceeded total recall eventually.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Oh wow, man. I thought it was cool from the
very beginning. I mean, it's got this whole sci fi
kind of vibe to it in the beginning when you
see they're all on the Red planet. But it's sci fi,
but it's not out of the realm of possibility, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, especially being that it's set
fifty sixty years in the future. So fifty sixty years

(10:36):
in the future, I mean I have a mind to
think that they probably will be doing something like this,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's very doable
for us to be there by twenty eighty four. So
that's why I was super happy to see that they
dated this so far ahead. It feels legit too when
you watch it and he's going through the dreaming about
Mars and his obsession with it and wanting to go
right up until he gets strapped in why he's at
recall and then starts to freak out. It feels like

(11:05):
reality still to.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Me, but he's Arnold Swarzenegger. Well, but that's The only
thing to me that seems like it's out of place
in him in this ordinary life is that he is
Arnold Swarzenegger.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, that's true. He does seem a little unbelievable to
be as big as he is, and seeing him in
an average, every day like construction worker role looking like that,
it's like that doesn't exactly add up, you know, not
at all.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
They did pick a job that would suit his physique, yes,
for sure, but he's literally like, you know, using a
jackhammer next to a fat fuck Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
In earliest script edits of this movie, they didn't have
him as a construction worker. They had him as like,
I don't know, like an insurance salesman or.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Some other thing, as a kindergarten teacher.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
As a kindergarten teacher, things like that. Yeah, But then
they decided to write that into another movie later and
they were like, oh, let's going we'll save that for later.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
But I do love Kindergarten Cop. It's surprisingly violent in
the final act. It's rough. The beginning is full of violence,
and the end is full of violence, and there's cute
little kids in between. It's a very uneven film, but
that's why I like it.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I know i'd have to wait in between. You know
which one I'd like better, The Last Action Hero or
The Kindergarten Cop. I feel like they're both kind of
on the same level. They're not horrible, but they're not great.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
H Yeah, I love them both.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So you rode the Arnold train a little longer than
I did. Kindergarten Cop was the first movie I was like, Eh,
what are you doing, Arnold?

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Did you know there's a sequel?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think I did, but he's not in it though
it's somebody else right.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Direct the videos starring Dolph Lunger, and I've never seen it.
They made it like fifteen years after the first one.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
When we run out of one thousand and one movies
to watch, we'll start the Beside Ourselves podcast and we'll
start doing those bad B movies and we'll cover it.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, one thousand and one movies you should not watch
before you.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Die list generated by us save your time.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
We watched them for you.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
There you go. Yeah, because we had nothing better to
do before we died. But I think it's really good.
I think they really sold the realistic like this is
his life up to that point and then, like I said,
all hell breaks loose why he's at recall, And then
they determined like, oh my god, this guy's been implanted before.
He's freaking out. They hit him up with enough drugs

(13:18):
I think that could take out an elephant, and they're like,
put them in a cab, send them home. He's quickly
tossing to a cab. He's on his way home. He
runs into some of his colleagues that he was working
with earlier, and he kind of lets him know, like, hey,
you know, I was just a recall or whatever. They're like, ah,
you should have done that. I told you not to,
and so they try to attack him and beat the
snot out of him, and this is where we see
that he may not exactly be a construction worker. He's

(13:41):
probably is a secret agent because he just dispatches with
these guys like nobody's business.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Can we talk about his fat friend real quick?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Rewatching this, I saw that he kind of like dislocated
his shoulder and there was a sound effect. But I
don't think that he killed him. I have to watch
it again, maybe unless they implied that he stepped on
his neck. I think his bald fat front was like
the one guy he didn't kill.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
What I thought was cool with regard to his co
worker is that you start to see at the very
beginning some of these super gold one liners that Arnold
always has in these movies. He'll say these lines that
are just amazing. I don't know if you guys have
ever seen a compilation video with a bunch of Arnold lines. Yes, Oh,
it's just so. It's awesome, just the way that he says.

(14:26):
He's like, fuck, you come to the party.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Calling people asshole, telling them to get down.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, they're awesome, and you get a whole bunch of
them in this movie.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, they were really good, for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I really love the visit to recall, I still don't
understand how they made the receptionist nails change color.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
M that was a cool effect.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I know how you would do it now, I don't
know how they did it then. Because this is one
of the last big blockbuster movies before things got CG heavy. Yeah,
I mean you don't really have a whole lot of
heavy CG until Jurassic Park and Beyond, and this is
a few years before that.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, this is actually when the last ones to use
actual real effects. Yeah, they just use a little bit
of CG. I know, the part that we're going to
see later when he goes through the X ray CG.
But maybe the nail thing was like an early CG
thing for them too.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, there's definitely some kind of animation computer or otherwise
with the x ray effect. But it's the sets and
even when they're doing composite shots where like it's against
a blue screen, everything that you're seeing is real. It's
a model or painting, and it looks amazing and it
really really holds up. The only thing that looks comically,

(15:36):
you know, Walkie is the stop motion animation, and I
think it's charming and puppetry. You get a little bit
of both.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, the animatronics.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, I love it, though I do too.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I can see why someone might be like, it doesn't
look super real, but some of the CG, even nowadays,
it don't look real. It looks bad, you know. So
I thought it was cool. I mean, you know what
it is, and you take for what it is for.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, I love that it looks gross and weird
and everything. The computer graphics on screen though, and the
monitors at recall do look quite primitive, but it's quite
a coincidence. We see the athletic brunette, sleazy and demure
woman there on screen that we're going to see later
in the movie, and this is what he's seeing in

(16:21):
the office before they put him under. Yeah, so it's
more of like, we're fucking with you and we're about
to meet someone that was just a representative of this
implant that he's paying to get later.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So here's the thing, man, it's kind of like a
mind job as the viewer, not just as Douglas quaid,
because you know, at what point does this memory begin,
because you really don't know. It's very possible that the
memory begins when the movie starts. Do you know what
I'm saying, right? Because that dream could have been implanted, right,

(16:57):
and it could have nothing been implanted, it could have
been totally real. So it is a total mind job.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Man, And that's what you're supposed to do. So up
until he enters recall, according to the director, that's all reality.
When he gets in the recall and starts going through that,
that's where he starts the best with you, where you
have to start putting the pieces together. Is this actually
real or is this just a recall memory that he's living,

(17:23):
because there's already a few clues. I mean, as you said,
we get to see as he's picking out the woman
that he wants, we see a physical picture of the
woman that we're going to see later.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And that's the same woman who is in his dreams.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
But see there's things she was in his dreams. So
is she real and he just imagined her on the
screen or is she actually something that they created and
planted to him. The second one is when the one
tech tosses the other tech that chipped. He's like, oh, look,
blue sky that's.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Due Yeah, blue sky on Mars.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, which we will, you know, we'll come to later
to discuss. So there's a couple already little carrots that
they're tossing in here to start the is this reality
or is this recall? Is it real or is it MEMORYX?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
For all I know, memory X manufactured the VHS tape
that we all watched this on over and over.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You quite possibly.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
What's that movie from Leonardo DiCaprio, Inception Inception Man? Inception
is crazy. This is like another one of those type
of movies.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Holy moly, I think this is trippier than Inception.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And it's really well done. I mean, as we go along,
we start to point out the places where it makes
you question whether reality or recall is really well done.
I mean really well done. That's what I enjoyed the
most about it. That wasn't always common for an eighties,
especially eighties action flick. Yeah, they didn't always get that
deep into the plot. You know, there was always all

(18:42):
kinds of plot holes. And this one's pretty tight all
the way through.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I think.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't know about you, guys, No, I.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Think so too.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Did you recognize the name of the author.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, that's the same guy who wrote the wrote Blade Runner.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, that is correct, And I would say you see
more boxy vehicles in this I know that Elon Musk
said that Blade Runner inspired the cyber Truck, but you
see a lot of Dolorean ask looking vehicles running around
on Mars. I think the vehicles in this movie look
more like the cyber truck than anything in Blade Runner.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
To be fair, Yeah, I think I agree.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Phil k Dick was never a major author in his lifetime.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Oh yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
He wrote a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
He got bigger after he died, but that was a
lot of artists, but he was. He was successful, Yeah,
but only towards the very very end. He was a
starving artist for a very very long time because he
spent all his money on drugs him.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, that's true. Was he was chasing the dragon a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
You're right, so, yeah, get your inspiration somehow.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I guess, Yeah, they were paying him, he was just
he was burning through that money.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
But he wrote a lot of short stories that a
lot of these movies that are based off of that.
You just would be surprised. You keep digging and you're like, oh, wow,
it was based on this. It was based on that.
In fact, this one was based on we can remember
it for you wholesale correct. Blade Runner was what do
do Android's dream of electric sleep or something?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I think was that one's electric sheep. He was right
there on story, but his titles needed a little work.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, they were kind of weird. But again, you know,
I guess when you're all drugged out, it's like, ah,
this is brilliant. Let's go with this. So now we're
getting past the point where you know, he has a
skirmish with his buddies. There he comes home to his
loving wife who then tries to kill him. We're getting
introduced to Sharon Stone's character here, the loving, adorable.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Lourie, perfect wife, and.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
She turns out on to be so loving. In the dooring,
she decides that she's taking him out, but shearing so wow.
I mean, just wow. She was fantastic in this. She
looks great, very fit. She's definitely put the time in.
I mean, her body is really well toned for this film,
and she's obviously studied some martial arts and stuff to
to really up her game to really perform in this.

(20:49):
And I think even watching her go up against Arnold
was pretty damn impressive.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh yeah, they made it believable. She gave him two nutshots. Yeah,
two in the same scene. I mean, yeah, wow. I
would say she's probably at the height of her physicality.
She's gonna be beautiful for several more decades. I don't
think Sharon Stone really started to look her age until
she hit sixty, and I think that's true of a
lot of beautiful people. I don't think she's had a
hard life, tim I think a lot of people have

(21:15):
been opening doors for her for quite a while. And
I think she definitely made friends with Arnold Schwarzeninggger because
she comes back and does that five second cameo or
maybe less it's blink and you'll miss it. In Last
Action Hero walking out of I don't know was the
police station that one?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I don't remember that either.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yes, Sharon Stone walks out of the police station as
her basic instinct character.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, that's cool, man. What I thought about this scene
was really cool was there was a little line in
there where he goes, oh, clever girl, and I was like, oh, bro,
that's the first time I've seen that line, because you
do see it in Jurassic Park. Yeah, but it's being
referred to the rapped her. I was like, oh, that's

(22:03):
where the line comes from.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
And she was quite clever. It's like, hey, one more
for old time's sake, you can tie me up.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Was a good one too.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, she's disarming him, she's stalling, and the Calvary's coming.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, and that ability for her to go from super
charming to super diabolical is what got her the job
for the next movie that we're all going to know
her from, which is basic instinct.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Verhoven was so impressed with her, like she could just
turn it off and on. It's just crazy, but that's
what got her that role. But the funniest part is
he actually wanted her to have a much more intense
and skin showing love scene with Arnold Schwartzenegger, and she
was not having none of it. She's like no. But
then to coincide with this movie, she went and did
a Playboy spread because she wanted to show off her

(22:48):
body because she worked so hard to get it everything.
So it's like, why would you just do the love
scene on screen?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Money?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Maybe there was some deal with Playboy, you know, like
maybe she couldn't or something.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah, everybody's kind of price. I mean, she said, she's
never doing a Basic Instinct too. But then they coughed
up the money and they did a sequel to Basic
Instinct that sucked ass. And she didn't even care that
it was a shitty movie, because hey, they paid me
the ridiculous number I asked for and she got it.
So she's clever. She's a clever girl.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well Verhoven said, you know I got her in the end,
because he goes, I got her to do what I
wanted her to do in Basic Instincts, so he got
the shot he wanted. You know, it just took him
another movie to get there.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I guess she's not getting butt naked unless her her
name's on the marquee.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, that's true. But I thought she did a great job.
Like I said, her fight scene was just phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
In this she had more than one. They're both good.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It was excellent in the later fight scene. I could
see in the four K that she's flipping over her
back a stunt woman and not the Latina actress.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
He actually wanted to make sure that the fight scenes
with her didn't look like it was just a girl fight.
He wanted her to look like she really could fight.
So she really put in the time and it shows.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
And then you know what, And like he had said
to him, because of the nutshots and stuff like that,
it definitely makes it feel as though this massive mister universe,
she's getting the best of him at points in the
fight because she is going for some low blows no
pun intended.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, he's just trying to defend himself because he doesn't
want to hurt her. He doesn't understand the stakes. But
then she's trying to kill him. Yeah, man, she gave
him quite a slice. I mean, we really needed a
scene where he was stitching himself.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Up well, and she must have really been wailing on
him for real because they said that Arnold, they actually
patted him all up. It gave him stunt pads for
his crotch too, because she was hitting so hard. He
had had protection down there. So she's really wailing on him.
I don't think she's holding back.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
That man looks believable, though.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
You know, I'm pretty sure one of two of those
oops from him might have been real.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And you know, and that's appreciated. You know, that's appreciated.
You don't necessarily get a clean and realistic fight sequence
that doesn't have cgi pretty much anymore. Yeah, you know,
there's a bunch of stuff that don't look real or
don't feel real.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
To be fair, this is around the time that he's
known to flirt, and so he might maybe maybe.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean, look at a dude though he.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Was still sporting that mister Universe body.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah. The opening scene, the dude's got his ripped guns out, man,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, And eventually Knox he Cole runs out the door
and this is where we get to meet Richter. You know,
Michael Ironside. I don't know if I believe that that's
his wife slash girlfriend. I don't know what she was
supposed to be love interest real sakes, it's never really defined,
but it's just kind of odd. It's like, uh, really
that that's the guy you want? Like, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
They had a real awkward kiss. Yeah, I'll never forget.
Even on VHS you could see that Iron Sigen's tongue
was out.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, but it seemed like they had an awkward relationship too,
because he was kind of uncomfortable with feeling like a
cuck you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Oh, his side has the best line of the movie.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
He makes reference to you know that she was having
to sleep with Quaid and he says, oh, I'm sure
she hated every minute.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, yeah, that was pretty ballsy from that guy.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I was gonna say the same thing, Joey. He's just like,
you know, yes, I'm sure she hated the whole time.
I'm like, like, he just didn't pop a cap and
you're right there.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Oh yeah, So you know how important that other guy
must have been because later on, like there's another military
official and he looks right in the face told him
to watch his mouth. Because he just said he screwed
something up. He didn't say anything about fucking his girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, that wasn't just anybody. I don't know if you
know who that was.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Joey, Oh the military guy.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, who was it? Golden Cot from DS nine.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh, yeah, he lost me.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Joey's not a Star Trek guy, but I know the
cot is. Yeah, the Star Trek. Yeah, that's two Star
Trek guys. We got him, and then we got the
Johnny guy. He's the doctor from Voyager.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I guess Ricardo wanted to actually poke a little fun
when Arnold gets in the Johnny cab. He want to
look at him and be like, oh, you must be
from out of town because of the accent. And the
director was like, no, no, we don't do that to Arnold.
We don't poke any fun at that guy. Do not
say that toim. You do not want to piss him off.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
At this point, he was also wearing the turbine, well
the towel. It looked like a turbin, right right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh yeah, they even do the gesture.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah yeah. Well when he leaves, he leaves out the
apartment complex and they're actually chasing him, and what's interesting
is that the dudes are tracking him with the thing
in his nose and it looks like some off brand
radio shack tracker. It was. It looked awful, man, it

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absolutely looked awful.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
You want to know why that thing was built by
Cassio to watch people? No shit, I'm not making that up.
They built that prop.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
It looked awful, man, absolutely awful. And to think that
the dude was actually like, oh, he's right here. Like, bro,
you can't tell anything from that little map that you
got there. You know, it's not anything near Google Maps,
all right.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It's like a really bad, rudimentary submarine pinging system.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
You know what's really cool is that x ray a
little fight that that was amazing. That was all over
the trailers when Total Recao came out. You see him
running around and the X ray thing undetected.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
That was boom through the glass and you go only
buy it that Schwarzenegger's character would jump through the glass
like that too. So I don't think they could have
done that with another actor and that would have been
a silly scene. But instead it's an awesome scene.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I think. To get to this point, the brilliant part
of it is that he Kscapes gets that hotel.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Can we pour one out real quick for the guy
on the escalator? Yeah, no, go for it. Yeah, that
poor man on the escalator gets shot and then he
uses him as a human shield. Apparently they shot that
and other scenes too where there was even more squibs
that went off because he knew that the NPAA was
gonna make him cut it down. But using that man
as a human shield and then throwing him at the

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other bad guys, that's one of my favorite parts of
the movie.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I knew it would be joy.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Dude. He got shot like a thousand times. Man. Literally,
I was looking. I was like, oh my god, man,
this dude gets shot like a thousand times. It is crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, apparently his guts are bulletproof because nothing hit all.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
When I seen that scene, I knew Joey was gonna
love it, because Joey loves anything with a bad mannequin
scene in it.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I think that was a good mannequin scene.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
It was very well done. But you're always kind of
a sucker when they do stuff like that. But yeah,
you're right though. I mean, they had to cut the
violence in this movie way down because the NPAA were
after them for excess violence. At one point they threaten
to give himn X rating, so they had to really
cut it down. And the director's argument was, when you
had me cut it down, the violence actually loses its campiness.

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When we're doing these quick cuts. It seems far more
realistic and far more violent. But they were like not
having any of it, so they cut it way down.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I think he got what he wanted. Allegedly, there was
just fountains and fountains of blood, and obviously we see
some of that on screen, but I think there were
other scenes that probably were a little bit more brutal.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I have when I'm thinking of that we can talk
about a little later. But yes, you're right.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, somebody gets something through their head in the lab,
and I think that would have been a lot campier
if we saw more of it.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, for sure. But yeah, I think it's interesting that
once he escapes the initial group of richter'shoons, you know
Knax's WiFi, he shows up the hotel and it's brilliant
that the guy calls him up and gives him the
instructions like, hey, wrap a towel around your head because
they're tracking you. And they come down and get this briefcase.
I love the little fight between him and the woman.
Oh yeah, he gives a little salute once he steals
it from her. Yeah, he acts like it is a

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turbine and he gives her a little Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
She goes, fuck you, asshole. Oh little old lady.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah that was beautiful. That woman had an epic performance.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, and she was hanging out of that thing for
dear life too.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
He had to really just rip it out of her hands.
So it was pretty case.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah I've been ripped off by an old lady. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, but uh and I just like that he grabs
a briefcase, finds this clue place, and then watches a
video that's him telling him what's going on. I mean,
I don't know if I'd ever seen that before, where
it's you telling yourself like, hey, here's what's going on.
Because if you're watching this right now, I bet you
got a towel wrapped out around your head. It was
just it was so well fought out. And the case,
although he doesn't really go through the contents, you get

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that quick look like there's all the IDs, there's some
extra clothes there. I think what we're going to see
his disguise later is in there, and then they pull
out that great, big, crazy looking damn medical thing. You're like, Oh,
what the hell is that thing for? Is that a
ray gun or something. It's like, Nope, you need to
jam it up your nose. And I don't know about
you guys, but I really like the scene where he's
extracting the tracker out of his head.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh it's optic, man.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I figured out what the device is because I saw
for sale recently. It's meant for us, not snaking your
drain per se, but if you drop something down into
the pe trap of your sink or your garbage disposal,
there's a little tool for retrieving that. And that's what
that is. They modified that.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know what it is. It's the claw.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I actually got one of those of my garage. As
soon as I see it, I'm like, I got half
of that prop right there, But it's the rest of
the stuff. I don't know what it's made out of.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
It.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I think we could all make that prop this weekend
if we won the group project. That looks pretty easy
because it's a puppet. It's obviously a puppet face that
they're using. And I've looked at it really closely. I
thought it held up really well. Like, I thought it's
really good. I mean it really looked like Arnold all
the way through the extraction. The pain looked real, man.
I thought it was really well done.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, there's a cut where like he's making that face
and he's shoving the prop up his nose, and then
they cut to the recreation of him making that face.
So they must have taken photographs from all sides, and
then the artists just nailed it. And my favorite part
is the fact that his nostril, it just stretches so far,
and we're gonna have more of unrealistic stretching it and

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bouncing back later. Yeah, but like his nostril would have
stayed that big, I'm sorry, he would have been bleeding
from his nose the rest of the fucking movie.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Did you guys have a little bit of traumatic COVID
tests and memories when you're watching that with them, Like, here,
jamm is up your nose, We could test you.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I did it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
They jam thinks way up your nose.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, now that you say it, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, the original ones. I don't know why, but they
were jamming shit way up people's noses and I got
an uncomfortable one, But it wasn't nearly as bad as
people were saying the news.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, mine was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
They didn't know anything back then. I could say this,
though I could say this, I think that this was
probably one of the centerpieces. Clips wise, like short clips
of the entire movie is so good. Despite whether you
liked or didn't like the prop itself. I thought it
looked great, but it still is one of the main

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stays of the entire movie. When you think of Total Recall,
you're like, oh, my god, that's the movie where he
took that thing out of his nose.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, there's about four of them.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yes, man, that is the movie. That thing was big
as a marble. Man, that was huge.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, it was. It was the large marble that you'd get.
I don't remember what they'd call that, a smasher or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
And then the fact that the red light when plastic
just pops off of it. I was like, what the
fuck was that for? Couldn't it just have been the pellet?
But then that wouldn't have looked cool and it wouldn't
have been flashing like their signal on the radars.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
True, well, and so the crazy thing is that pellet
that when it opens up and shows you that that
is a fifty caliber slug from a musket.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I was like, Oh shit, I know what that is.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
That's crazy, man, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah. Yeah, it was a weird thing for them to
put in there. But I was like, ah, you.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Know, you know what it isn't it's not a tuba.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
No, no, But I'm pretty sure if you had one
of those in your heads, you know it. I mean,
come on, I know, man, if that thing's up in
your side his cavity, you're be like, oh my god,
I can't breathe, man, I just I can't smell anything.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
You'd have this raging headache and everything all the time. Yeah,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Once you think you'd have like some kind of green
glow coming out of your nose too, because there was
like that green light on it and stuff like you
just you turn off the lights and like your nose
and just be like mic coming out like a search light.
So I don't know, but I thought it was interesting.
He realizes that Richter's group is there to retrieve him.
Now it's some tiny little thing that he manages to
let the mouse carry off, and those guys are so

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triggering happy, like it's there, it's there, He's there, good man.
They're just shooting at everything. It was crazy. I can't
imagine how many rounds they shut off in the traditional
eighties guns that never run out of ammal.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Ever, right, right, No, that was really cool. It was
really fun little sequence right there too. I think that
kind of makes it a little bit even more believable
that he's able to get away without too much trouble,
because it kind of shows that they're relying heavily on
this like radio shack tracker and not really thinking a
whole lot about investigation and stuff like that. They're just like, okay,

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we could trust this thing. It's right here, and he
gets away. So then it's a little bit more believable
when the scene cuts and he's not really in danger,
you know.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, And they had to cut that scene because they
didn't have the budget to actually show him boring his
spaceship and traveling to Mars and stuff, So that's why
they did that final part where it gets smashed and
it's like get your amrs, get your as to Mars.
So that was kind of their little traditional segment to
getting him to bars, which I also thought was interesting.
When they finally shoot the mouse, that's an awful lot
of blood for a tiny little mouse. As Joey's put out,

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there was just way over killed. Was like they just
threw a whole bottle of something on the top of
that screen.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, it was like, oh, that's all mouse. There was
no fur though. The funny thing was I could have
swore when he first comes in there, Arnold kind of
like shoes away some mice.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
By the way, those are rats, bro, All those rats, man.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, they were trained obviously. Some of them were not
afraid of them. They stayed Like in the spot he
literally shoved some of them off the fucking table. I
don't know if you could do that scene again.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't know if I could do that scene. Man,
Fuck that. I ain't being around no rats, bro.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Those were definitely trained. They liked people, and their trainer
was nearby.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Actually, believe it or not, if you get a tame one, dude,
they're a lot of fun. Actually, my buddy had two
of them. We used to play with them all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I don't know, man, you call me doctor Jones Senior
because I ain't about to have no rats.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I'm the other one, the one that walks into like snakes.
Why did they have to be snakes? Like that's where
I that's where I come in. Man, I'm having none
of that Slytherin crap. That shit ain't right. So now
we're moving to Mars and he's got a super cool disguise.
That's the part I remember the most about the.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I hate to say it is very tall woman.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, very tall woman. I don't know if she had
any other name.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Uh, it was a fat woman. That was the Yes,
it was called. She played the part as the fat lady.
That was literally what she was casting as.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I just love the two weeks. Two weeks, two weeks,
and it's like start speaking out and stuff. This is
this thing is just going all kinds of hey wires, like, oh,
you know, Iron Side's walking along, you know, Rick Der
and he's kind of looking at it like this ain't right.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
We've covered too the major lines from the movie. People remember,
get Josh to Maws. Two weeks and there's only one
more to go.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Bullshit, bullshit.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
And then the thing that makes no sense with that
is that big warp cored comes out of his neck
for a minute, like that big glowing rod like he's
got a nuclear rod is part of the thing?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, Like where was that inside of his head? That
doesn't make anything?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
And I think pops out and then goes back in
and then it opens up and it's like, where's that
rod at? I don't see it in there? Like does
it just collapse? That's the weirdest damn thing I've ever seen.
That was the only part that was kind of stupid.
But the opening of the man, dude, that is so cool,
Like how they did that, it looks awesome.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, that was amazing. Man, it looked cool.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's not the coolest thing you'll ever see, Like, it's
a lot of It was a lot of special effect
for something that was kind of unimportant to some degree,
you know. I mean it was important, but you know,
usually all those special effects are kept for like creatures
or you know, some kind of sci fi guns or
something like that. It was just this weird disguise things
where but it was still so cool to watch.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
You know what though, But it keeps the action moving,
it does, you know, because we had that cut from
a really heavy amount of action to what looked to
be maybe like a slower point. But nah, man, it
wasn't a slower point because it cut right to the
next piece of action, so it just kept the action
moving the whole way. The pace was amazing in this movie.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
And again these guys get all kinds of trigger happy.
Again they're just shooting to play stuff like this guy's
got no restraint, and now they're in a dome. It's like, guys,
you were going to kill yourselves if you keep piercing
the glass. Somebody needs to tea. She's guys, trigger control,
target acquisition. So yet again he gets away. This whole
costume comes off and he adds into Old Venusville there,
which is we're gonna say the red light district of bars.

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Apparently Andy. He meets up with the mysterious militia. So
did you guys think of her the woman from his dreams?
It's kind of interesting that she shows up and she
looks exactly like she did on the screen at recall.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, she's the second most memorable brunette the whole movie,
the first one. He meets seconds later with, uh, well,
I wish I had three hands, right right, yeah, but
I will have to say that, and I'm gonna mess
up her name. Rachel T I c O T I
N Ticket Ticket. I don't remember her from a whole

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lot of movies. I remember her from this, I remember
her from Falling Down. I forgot that she was in
conn Air, and she has quite a few credits. She's
been in a lot of smaller roles. But I'm almost
kind of surprised that she didn't take off more because
she was basically a strong female lead next to Arnold
Swartz theer.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, but you put her up against Sharon Stone. Sharon
Stone just outshined her. There's just no way she's gonna
hold up against Sharon Stone at this point. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
I don't know. I prefer Brunette.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Nah Man Sharon Stone. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I felt like she just didn't have the personality of
the acting chops. Like Sharon Stone's character was super believable.
She's the only one that kind of doesn't sit well
in the movie with me. Not that she's a bad actress,
oh no, but she just felt like the one character
that was not as well placed in the story. Like
I just I don't know. I felt like maybe they

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could have done a little better in casting her. Character.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I thought she nailed it with what have you been
feeding this thing?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
His response was amazing. Man, he had a lot of
good one liners in the bar man. Yeah, not just him,
for instance, Benny the cab driver. He had a couple
of pretty good one liners in the bar as well.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Man, I got fun, I have kids.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
The character is outstanding.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yep, says that line twice and fox it up a
third time.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
We don't get a lot of Betty. We get to
see it briefly for a few seconds there, but we
don't have a lot of Benny interaction yet.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
How old were you, guys when you found out that
Dean Norris was the guy with the pretty.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Face just a few minutes ago?

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh okay, yeah, I did find out post Breaking bad.
But I mean, we'll see Dean Norris and other Arnold
movies and all other Paul Verhoven movies. I believe he
appears in Starship Troopers. Oh yeah, and he's part of
the Swat Team and Terminator too.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah see, I remember Michae Ironside being in the Starship Troopers.
But yeah, I'm not I'm not familiar with Dean like
I'm just he's not like on my radar of actors
that I follow are recognized for the most part, and
I haven't watched Breaking Bad, so if he's prominent there,
maybe that's what really brought him to the forefront for people.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
People knew he was that guy in that thing, right,
because he was in a lot of things, but he
wasn't a household name until Breaking Bad.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
And I feel like we have quite a few characters
in here that they're this guy and that thing, that
sidekick for Richter, his main right hand man. You see
him in a lot of eighties stuff, and then he
kind of just falls off the face of the planet.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, he really did. He only passed away in twenty
twenty one. I was just looking it up because I
thought maybe he'd died earlier, since I very vividly remember
him from this and the other stuff I looked up
on his imdbing. I don't remember him in those movies,
but I'm sure he's in him.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
That's how I felt about Rachel's content too. I remember
her from Falling Down, and that's about it. I feel
like she should have been in some Steven Sagall films.
I feel like that's more caliber, Like it seems like
she would have been a good fit to stand next
to the old fat Sagall and a couple of things.
But yeah, she just wasn't a major one. But then
there's a couple of other eyeball ones, you see, like
Mickey Jones. We get a brief one from him, and

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he's another one of those guy in that thing that
you don't really know, but I've seen him enough. And
then we get Thumblelina, the world's smallest hooker. So I
remember seeing her in quite a few things in the eighties.
I don't know where her career spanned, but I did
reckon at least in this one. A couple other little
roles that I've seen.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah, let's get her a big gun to fire.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
She was entertaining. I'll give her that much.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yeah, she did a great job. And she stabbed the
god yeah too.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah in the nuts.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Oh she stabbed the the right hand man.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, she takes him out eventually in his
eighties regalia glasses.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
What do you guys think overall of just getting to
see Venusville? It's obviously the shadier part of Mars. I mean,
what was your take on that? I thought they really
captured the essence of what would kind of be the
shady ghetto area of Mars.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
For sure. I think Benny summed it up. He says,
you ever fucked the mutant before? God, I know, these
Siamese twin sisters, you don't know if you're coming or going.
I think that we could have seen more grotesque things,
and I'm glad we didn't.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I thought it was cool. Speaking of that is Dean
Norris plays as Tony that line that Arnold has when
he's like, you got a lot of nerves showing your
face around here? And then Arnold's reply, I was just like,
oh my god, bro, he just blasted. I do not
remember that until when I watched it just the other day.

(45:09):
I was like, I could not remember that line at all,
that little clip, and when I saw it again, it
was gold It was absolutely gold Man. I was laughing.
I was almost on the floor on that one.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's kind of Ballsy makes a statement like that when
you're on Mars now, you're where the resistance is at,
and they're not sure you're on their side. I mean,
they know him as Hauser and he's Kohagan's right hand man,
so they don't think he may be really with them,
and the whole lot of bad can happen real fast
when you're surrounded by a bunch of people who don't
trust you.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
They would have been able to sell it a lot
more if they would have shown how tall Dean Morris
is really next to Arnold Schwarzenegger, because I'm pretty sure
they had him standing on an apple box. A Dean's short, right,
Not that Arnold's really that tall in real life. I mean,
he's taller than me, but he's not as tall as
you think he would be.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Gotcha. Well, he manages to h totally evade Richter's crew
yet again, and he makes his way back to the
hotel kind of regroup himself there, and this is where
his wife shows up with doctor Edgemar from Recall. He's
kind of like, hey, your recall implant's gone terribly wrong

(46:17):
and you're trapped in this fantasy memory and you're on
the verge of permanent brain damage. So they're basically like
trying to talk him down, explain to him that you know,
he's not really who he thinks he is, and bad
things are about to happen if he doesn't go with
them and let them get this implant out of him
and get him leveled back off into reality. What do
you guys think?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I thought it was super cool that the bro tried
giving him the red pill, which a few years later
you get to see, like, legit what red pill means
in the matrix. So I don't know if there was
inspiration there from this, but he like literally had a
red pill in his hand and he was trying to
give it to him so that he could actually get

(46:57):
back to reality. That is just so amazing. I never
noticed that before I watched it this time, and I
see this now symbolism and the connection which I imagine
there is. I mean, they're both red pills, and they
both mean that you're gonna go to reality or whatever
is more real. Now, obviously I have a mind to

(47:18):
think that that red pill was gonna kill this dude.
And what's super cool is that you can see it
if you're looking. The bro started sweating. He started sweating.
Man Arnold is just like, uh, nah, dude, you are bullshit.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Yeah, he got it really bad.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, but is he sweating because he's not real? Or
is he sweat because he's having to confront this massive
man who could just crumple him like a tin can.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
Yeah, he literally has a gun to his head. Is
the beat of sweat reel or is quite imagining it? Yeah,
because he's choosing to believe in the fantasy and not
believe that he's had a medical episod. So recall well.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
And this is another point. This is one of those
pivotal moments because if you think about it, Doctor Edgemar,
he basically outlines the entire rest of the film for us.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yes, he does.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
You know, Hey, basically, if you don't come back with me,
the walls of reality are gonna come crashing down. You'll
believe that you're the savior of the resistance, and then
you're gonna discover that's your yeah Kohagen's boos and buddy,
and then you're gonna have these crazy visions of an
alien civilization. So yeah, like he kind of spells the
movie out for us. So now again, is it because

(48:33):
he knows what's really happening? Or is it because he's
part of the conspiracy and that's what they've implanted in
him and they're trying to, you know, basically shut him
down because it got activated too early.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I don't know, man, I kind of think that at
least I'd like to think that it's not a recall.
I'd like to think that it's for real, you know
what I'm saying. I don't know if it is, but
i'd also like to think that it could be justified
that for Hauser, these are real events and his history

(49:05):
is real. You know what I'm saying as far as
what Hauser is.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
But let me play Devil's advocate. So he says distinctly,
if you don't come with me, if you kill me,
the wall's reality come crashing down and he kills them,
and then what happens just seconds later, the walls of
the department come literally crashing down.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, but if it was reality, Okay, say, if it
was reality, then in reality he would be working for Cohagen,
and he would know that Hauser has this connection and
this memory to alien technology, and that there were people

(49:46):
behind the wall and that they're going to break through it.
And he actually used to be tight with Cohagen, So
if it were real, it would also be substantiated.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
He was trying to give the guys next door a
signal there's a gun to my head, and the walls
came crashing down anytime, guys, any now, anytime now, guys.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yeah, African Africandabra. It's like big.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Banana, Yeah, banana banana.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
I was looking at his credits and he is another
guy who's in that thing that you saw. So besides
some movies that you may have heard of, like Tango
and Cash or The Roses, very memorable episode of Tales
from the Crypt that I thought was a different actor,
he did a lot of TV. I'm seeing all these

(50:37):
TV credits for that gentleman, and it's like, you know,
one episode, one episode, one episode, and just a year before,
he was on an episode of night Court that I
don't remember that I don't recall, where he played a
doctor doctor Wiggle. So I got to see that now
to find out how doctor Wiggle ventures up to his
character in Total Recall, Doctor Edgemar Egamar. That's quite a name.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
You'll have to give us the Doctor Wiggle synopsis once
you watch it, because that just doesn't seem like it
can be real.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Night Court was a really weird show. That's the age
we lived in. The Age of night Court led right
into uh and beyond Total Recall.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm surevels to connect, but I guess we're
recalling night Court. So there we go. There's our link.
But this is a really interesting scene and basically kills
the recall guys like nope, not having this, don't believe
you at all. And that's when he is run down
by Rikers men again and they go to take him
out and gets liberated by Milena and she just lays

(51:39):
waste all of them. Bit she misses old Laurie. So
the fight is on. But this is a catfight we
get to see between Laurie and Melena. These two are
out and out fighting. This is mma going on in
here that I think this might be one of the
first times we actually get to see two women fight
in a movie where they are just having some kind
of crazy cat scratch fight. I thought it was really
well done. And at the end here we're going to

(51:59):
get a great quote.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Consider it a divorce.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, that was awesome, such a great line. I mean,
it's just fantastic. It's right up there with was it Commando?
Where he's got to hold that guy over the cliff
and then he gets the answer he wants and he
drops him and little Girl's like, what did you do
with him? I let him go?

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yeah, those quotes are amazing, dude. I could sit there
and watch those quotes every weekend. Man.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I'm sure that many of the movies Arnold decided that
he wanted to be in were then Okay, now we
have to work in some Arnold one liners because we've
cast Arnold Swarzenegger, and I'm sure some of the dialogue
didn't exist to the version of the script prior to
Arnold accepting the role. They had to have tailored some
of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
It is so good.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I mean, would you guys think of the fight. I
thought it was a really good fight. Really, Like I said,
it was like MMA quality.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Really, it was cool on several levels. You had to
females fighting, you know, and I think at that point
in time that's where it was at. There wasn't a
whole lot of male versus female fighting. And the one
that we did get earlier, we talked about how Sharon
Stone's character was using a lot of cheap shots and stuff,
so that kind of made it believable in this fight sequence.

(53:19):
It wasn't like a bunch of hair pulling and you know,
scratching and stuff like that. It was Yeah, like Tim said,
it was like a legit fight. It was good. It
was real good. Now.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
The thing I did strike me on that though, is
you know, Richter didn't see him all that upset when
he found her dead.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Mike. He's just like, eh, dude, he didn't even notice her.
He didn't even see her.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Oh no, dude, I thought that was one of his
big acting moments. He looked fucking in rage.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, but he didn't see her. He walked right over
her dead body. Bro when he got out of the elevator.
He would have seen that first, but he did. I
was like, what the hell, This dude didn't even see
his girlfriend or wife or whatever she is to him body.
It was the sidekick.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Well, Kohagen's been keeping him in the dark. He might
not have realized that the person laying on the ground
was her.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, maybe, okay, I could see that then.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I was surprised though, that him coming out and just
not noticing it right away. Mike, Man, he really seems
uh not really heartbroken about this at the beginning, and
it was just like, well, she's dead, but yeah, anyway,
they managed to get away yet again, and they're heading
into Old Venusville and this is where we get Benny
the Taxi Driver. If you go see Quatto the Alien Oracle.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Hey, man, it's cool. I'm one of you. I loved
his bizarre alien three fingered look.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
The arm was well done, went folded up into it,
so dude.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It reminded me of that one movie with Charlie Sheen,
the one where there's these aliens on Earth. You guys
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
I'm familiar that the movie exists and Charlie Sheen's in it.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
The movie you're talking about, though, I have it in
my collection somewhere. I just cannot recall the name of
it right now.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
But the aliens had these like legs and stuff, and
I was like, oh man, it kind of reminded me
of that a little bit. I think it's called The Arrival. Man.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Now that's it. It is the Rival. You hit it,
that's it. It is.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Before we talk about Quado, I do got to say
that they missed the mark on that Benny taxi driver
experience because they should have put that in a theme park.
That sequence where they're driving around all this stuff was happening.
That would have been an amazing theme park ride.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
My wife was saying the same thing about Johnny Cabs.
She asked me, she goes, is that a theme park ride?
And I said no, so like she's like misremembering something else.
We went on because it felt like that kind of
an experience.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, man, thin because it's just taken like the Star
Wars ride and put Johnny Cab guy in it and
then just pushed that on there and done it just
like the Star Wars. Right at Disney, we.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Do have the Johnny Cabs now, they just didn't put
a talking Robert Picardo.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity, Like how cool
would that be to have an actual like Johnny Cab
guy turned around and talk to you.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Oh yeah, I think Robert Paccardo should just completely sell
his image to a self driving cab company and then
just put him on the monitor and talking to you
via AI bro.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
People would buy that, kind of like that British guy
that's in the Fallout series that sells his voice to
the mister Handy Robots.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, how.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Know for the rest of life. He's like, Yeah, I
got like, you know, five hundred thousand dollars one of
those free taxis for this or something. Yes, and I'm
ever going to be driving these taxis for the rest
of eternity.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I don't know, man Quato. That puppet was phenomenal. I
mean just phenomena. Whoever did the special effects on that dude,
like he should have just been like, I'm dropping the
mic that said I'm done, I'm going to retire. I'll
never do better than this. That thing looks so real.
He was approached by two people that actually asked him,
is that guy Marshall Bell? Is he actually like really
a freak? Is he possibly like a semi born signy twitch?

(56:57):
They really thought that that was like part of that
dude for real, because it looks so realistic. I guess
it took like fifteen puppeteers to control it. I just
thought it was amazing. The eyes looked so real, the
way the mouth moved everything, man, I mean, it was
just perfect for a puppet. I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
I feel like the eyes were splotchy and they reminded
me of the people's eyes in that bird Cage movie.
You can't look at the demons, but then you find
out the crazy people who looked at the demons and
don't kill themselves, like have crazy eyes. It reminded me
of that, But it's basically like a middle aged fetus. Yeah,
my favorite party is like, hold my little hands, and

(57:34):
then Arnold takes his big arms out and touches his
little hands and he has to act serious when he's
doing it. And this has been parodied in so many things.
And I think it was an episode of Harvey Birdman
where they had a quad a lawyer. He talked like
a southern gentleman. I think that's the best one.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
This was pretty cool, man, I mean, especially because this
was hyped up quite a bit throughout the second half
of the movie or the middle of the movie. They
were like, oh, Quado this and Quado that, like it's
this crazy thing you know that no one knows and
it's secret and stuff like that. So it was a
really good reveal. It wasn't something cheap looking. It looked real,

(58:12):
It looks serious. That definitely helped the whole movie overall,
because it wasn't a If this was a flop, I
think that would have really hurt overall.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
And then what happens Benny betrays us many shoots quadam.
It was just like some mac coming. We get the
great reveal and then we get the great betrayal, and
then we get Kohagen's forces just attacking in masks man.
They are coming in from every direction. I mean it
was just betle them in there. I imagine this is
where we rack up a lot of our seventy seven bodies.

(58:43):
But I mean it was really well done.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
His fortune telling days are over.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Reactor, but we all remember open your mind, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and so we have get your oustumers.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Two weeks open your mind.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Oh, I think consider that to be Divorce is in
that too. I'm gonna put it in there. I think
there were four great lines in here. And then as
Quaid and Molina are trying to get away, we get
that awesome chasing two with the rock mining machine with
Benny and it. He tears him up a little bit
with that machine until Arnold gets the best of him.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah, he had him cornered, and it was just hey,
I've got this drill, and guess who has eight weeks
of construction experience?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Yeah that about right.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
It's super cool. Like I said, the action was NonStop
through the whole movie, and this was no divergence of that.
It was cool and what's more than the normal Arnold
movies that we get is that this one isn't just
a bunch of killing. It's killing, but there's also this
cool plot going on, with this mind madness going on.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
So yeah, so with seemingly again we think finally, you know,
they're gonna get away, and then they get caught. This
is where we finally get the big meeting between Howser
and Kohagen and we get to see Ronnie Cox and
all his infinitous villainism, which is weird because man, when
I see Ronny Cox, all I can think of is
Beverly Hills Cop. Fully Fully's fully in here, you know,
Like that's all I can think of that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Oh the first thing I think of is RoboCop. Oh yeah, yeah,
he plays Dick. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I have not watched RoboCop as much as you. I'm like,
I've seen it a few times, and it's not a
bad movie. It's not like a dislike it. I just
I don't think I have seen it nearly as much.
I know it's a bigger one on your radar. To me,
he's always the chief from Beverly Hills Cop. It just
seems a little eye. But he did such a great
job and I like how he just taunts him, Hey,
you know I planned all this. I've been doing this

(01:00:42):
for like a year. I didn't even bother telling Richter.
He had no idea what was going on. You're my
best friend, and we decided we would do this together,
and we put you under so we could fool those
stupid mutants, and now I need you back.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
He is an excellent monologue.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, not only does he monologue it, but then he's like, here,
somebody wants to talk to you, and he plays the
house of video where he's like, well, you did what
you're supposed to do, buddy, and thanks for keeping yourself
in one piece. But now I want my body back.
And it's just that reveal moment. It's like, wow, man,
this is some diabolical crap.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Yeah, there's a Verhoven trilogy. The holy Trinity of Paul
Verhoven to me is RoboCop, one, Total Recall, and Starship Troopers. Yeah,
and we see him reusing actors from other films. We
see Ronnie Cox in RoboCop as the bad guy. We
see him as the bad guy in Total Recall. We see,
of course, Michael Ironside in this movie. And then we

(01:01:33):
see Michael Ironside again kind of playing a mentor role
in Starship Troopers, and he's excellent in that. So Verhoven
plays his favorites and they're strong. When you think about
this cast, it's like they're like the Who's Who of
character actors.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Yeah, no, I definitely agree. It's a pretty solid cast. Man.
There's a lot of people in here that really you
see a lot in the eighties and stuff, and you
see him later as well. I mean, Sharon Stone is,
like we already said timeless. That's usually how it goes though,
right when you have a number of people in the
cast and then you look back and you're like, oh, dang,

(01:02:09):
look at all these people in this cast for this movie.
No wonder why this movie was so good. Not only
has it a good plot, a whole long list of
action sequences that are really knocking it out of the park,
but you also have a solid cast.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah for sure. Now we're gonna come up to the
bloodiest fighting that I think is in the entire total recall.
If there was any spot where I think the MPAA
was like, oh no, no, you definitely need to cut
this down. This was a spot because we are seeing
all kinds of stuff, improvises weapons and the most effective
manner possible.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
It's brutal. And I got to give the lab guys credit. Man,
they're just like, oh, this went sideways. Let's grab whatever
we can and get them. Yeah, and they're the ones
who get got the stab in the neck with the
broken off piece of his restraints. That's right up there
with the robocops stab in the neck. It's a close second.

(01:03:04):
We talked about it earlier. There's a very quick scene
where I feel like there probably was more gore and
it probably would have looked campy. Was he stabs kind
of almost off screen, an instrument into a guy and
for a split second you see that it looked like
he went through his nose and through his head.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yeah, it's sticking out of his head. Like later on
you see him on the floor and it's embedded in
his head.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, it didn't go through, but it basically penetrated to
the back. I would say, yeah, it was brutal, just
absolutely brutal. And this is where Copenhagen looks at Rict
and he's like, just take care of him. I'm tired
of messing around with this. This guy just keeps getting
away best friend or not take him out, and Richter's
finally it's about damn time, and so Ricter and his
boys now have the permission to just wipe him out

(01:03:48):
and they chase him down. And this is where we
get a nice payoff again where if you go back
to the case and he's pulling all that odd stuff
out and we get to see that a couple of
seconds where he's playing with that watch. Now we get
to see that watch in full effect because he's going
to use it to fool Richter's men. Yeah, and he
actually we get some comical crossfires where he uses it
to get them to shoot each other, which I thought
was really good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
And what game borrows that mechanic?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Lots of them, I mean, there's lots of games that
use that mechanic.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Yeah. I think the first one to do it was
The Hollow Duke in Duke Nukem three D.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I do remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Yeah, but yeah, a lot of games, man, especially even nowadays,
people who are if if anyone's younger and they've played Apex,
there's a character called Mirage who does that and he's
got several of these decoys. I mean, because it's cool.
I mean, you don't have to watch Total Recall to
think that having a decoy as a fighting partner would
be awesome, because it is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Yeah, I'm wonder is the guy who adapted this screenplay
did he come up with that? Did the special effects guys,
you know, come up with some ideas or this is
part of the story with Philip K. Dick wrote, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
All's that I know is that there was a line
in there you thought I was quaid.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, that was a good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Put that in the trailer, and then maybe they shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I want to bet that it's almost in the original
story because I know when the two original guys had
gotten the rights to this and we're working on turning
into a movie, they decided, you know, look, the technical
aspects of producing this film, which is back in the seventies,
is a little outside of the capabilities of Hollywood right now.

(01:05:28):
So they decided to shelve it. And then they went
and wrote a story about aliens attacking humans which would
become aliens, and so they made that movie. Oh I
didn't Yeah, And then they came back to this one
later because special effects have finally caught up to a
point where they thought that they could pull the movie off,
which they did.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yeah, I think you could have done an animated feature
like Heavy Metal and done this justice and done an
amazing job. And it's amazing. They did this at like
the height of practical effects and optical compositing, before computers
take over. And I think it's kind of like the
pinnacle of being creative with things that exist. And now
we're spoiled and you can just put in a fucking

(01:06:07):
prompt and it's gonna make something look realistic, and that's
just gonna get more and more amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
What's cool is that they use the scene with the
hologram and there was crossfire. However, the first usage of
the hologram, there was crossfire, yet nobody on the other
side got shot. I don't know if you guys noticed that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Good point, nobody got shot. They all should have gotten shot.
It would have made a lot more fucking sense. And
the ending of Michael Ironside is probably the best way
he dies in a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
It's brutal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
It's super brutal.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Man. I just remember watching that. I'm like, I can't
even watch that. Yeah, that's rough.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
It made me afraid of elevators.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Well, that elevator was so unsafe, man. Yeah, who makes
an elevator on Muckers without handrails? Man? What the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Dude? Yeah, that was a man made thing. I wasn't
an alien elevator. That was something the mining people put
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, there's no handrails, man. That is definitely not O show.
I know, I guarantee that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Fun fact, It's not the only movie that Michael Ironside
loses his arm in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah, he loses it. Now it's Starship Troopers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Oh yeah, dude, for real?

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Does he lose a limb in?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Then? Yes he does.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
He's got a mechanical arm from the elbow down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Does he dies?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
I don't know that he loses a limb.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah yeah, and he's missing his legs.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Oh that's fucking right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
He loses an arm in The Machinist in two thousand
and four in a very realistic manner. What do you
guys think of the alien artifact? The handprint?

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
That's cool, man, I thought it was interesting, but it
was a little too detailed, like it looked like it
was like fingerprints and everything in there, and oh Wrinkley,
I'm like, why would you make one? That would have
all that in there, Like everybody's hand looks like that.
You think it would be a little smoother looking, because
if you made a human hand, one wouldn't have diivots
and crap in. It would just look like human hand
that you would set your hand in. I am still

(01:08:04):
visually pleasing for the screen, and I know that's why
they did it, but it seemed like I had far
more detail than you would need for such a thing. Plus,
it's just one button. Nothing else on there. There's just
one button that you hit, Like, and what's gonna happen.
I don't know, maybe something good, maybe something bad. I
guess we won't know unless you hit the button.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Yeah, and it's just one finger short of the Vulcan salute.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yeah, but Kuado told.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Him start the reactor. No, you'll kill everybody. I mean,
Kohagen really sells it. He feels like it's really gonna
kill everybody. But at the same time, it's like, dude,
you're about to get sucked out. Yeah, I think I
would roll the dice with the reactor at that point.
Is there somebody that Kohagen actually cares about other than himself?
And howser First, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Just weird that he brings a bomb. Why would you
keep messing around? You're in a dome on a planet
that if you blowth stuff up can go very bad
for you. They seem very loosey goosey with their firing
of the guns and now bringing explosives in. But I
think once Hauser grabs it, whips it down, that shaft
blows it up. So now they got the vacuum sucking
them out. Kohagen still keeps saying like, look, don't hit it,

(01:09:10):
You're gonna kill us all. I think he truly believes
something catastrophic is gonna happen. Na Man, at that point,
why would you argue it like that? Why would you
say that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
I think because he's a sociopath. I think he just
really wants to continue his way of life, and he thinks,
because he's mentally messed up in his head that he
is going to get through this, because he always somehow
gets through stuff in life. I mean, he's trying to
manipulate Quad multiple times, especially here, He's trying to feed

(01:09:42):
him some line of bullshit, and Quad is just like, nah,
this isn't what we're doing. What I thought was especially
great though, I'm Golden Man. Was the part where everyone's
holding on for dear life and then Arnold Schwarzenegger's character
grabs fucking hand and sends him out into the fucking

(01:10:03):
environment of Mars. That was priceless for me. I was
laughing my ass off. He could have done anything, he
could have He could have grabbed for something else so
he can stay inside the reactor main piece, but he didn't.
He took his hand and he removed Cohagen from the
whole entire seed. That was so great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yes, yeah, and I love when he flies out onto
the planet's surface like they do a really nice job
with the compression.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Yes, it becomes the glorious part of this gorefest movie.
And yeah, his final state is forever immortalized on the
cover of Fangoria, a horror movie magazine, number ninety five,
when the eyeballs are at their apex of bursting out
of his head. That's the cover of the magazine, and
it haunted me as a tween, rightfully.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
So, I mean, it looks fantastic again, we're back to
these are all puppet faces that they're using, But man,
do they look fantastic. They look just like them. They
look like you would expect them to look if that
was happening to a human being. So I just thought
it looked really, really good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Ronnie Cox is getting up there. Let's see how how
many years fun is Ronnie Cox? He is eighty six
years old, and do use sons of bitches out there.
When Ronnie finally passes, I'm thinking he's gonna make ninety six.
Don't you dare post a picture of him dying until't
recall that's just wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah, that would be a little.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Rough, but you know someone's gonna fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Oh yeah, somebody will do it for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
And he's died as a puppet twice. We actually got
to see him as a stop motion animation puppet and
a rubbocop. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
So it's cool in the movie, but we have to
really put it out there at least that Mars isn't
a vacuum. That is not like being in space. There
is a very thin atmosphere and you wouldn't get thrown out,
you wouldn't pop your eyeballs out of your head and
stuff like that. You would just die from exphyxiation.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
So you would just suffocate.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yeah, you would suffocate because you just would be breathing,
but you would get carbon dioxide in your lungs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It'd be so thin.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, there's not enough oxygen for you to be able
to live.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Or you'd freeze, like negative eighty degrees fahrenheit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Yeah, but you could live in that. The problem is
there's not enough oxygen to breathe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
I think your lungs would freeze over yeah, probably. Yeah,
it would be a horrible death for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah, but people live in the far reaches of our
planet at negative eighty and you know what I'm saying, Hey,
I'm sure it isn't hospitable, but it's definitely doable.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
And it says there's daily variations exceeding one hundred degrees. Yeah,
so depending on where you are the time of day,
it's either negative eighty one or it's overall hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
So it's like crematorium ridic maybe riddic, yeah, man, riddic.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I'm thinking. So can't wait to fucking go guys.
Sounds wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Sign me up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Well, you know what you gotta go over there? You
can get that turbidium, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
It'd be the first one on top of those Martian
pyramids that don't technically exist.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yes, people do believe that there may be alien structures
on Mars. I don't know if I've necessarily seen anything
to support that, but I thought that was kind of
interesting how they kind of included that in the movie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Absolutely, Well, we should get back to this. So now
we've watched our villain Copenhagen getting sucked out, Quaid finally
decides he's going for it. He puts his hand in
the old alien thing and this thing fires off just
before him and Molnia both shoot out onto the surface
of Mars and they're starting their decompression too. Now, this
is the only part it seems a little questionable, because

(01:13:43):
he hits that thing and they get an atmosphere with him,
like what thirty seconds. Yeah, it seems like that's entirely
too quick for an atmosphere to be produced alien artifact
or not to save these people's lives in time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Yeah, I think Copenhagen would have been right if it
reacted that quickly, I think would have killed all life
on the planet it was creating earthquakes. I mean, I'm
surprised more people didn't die in the quakes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
I think it's the other way though, bro, because when
you're looking at that pyramid or whatever it was. There
was air shooting out of that thing like crazy. There
were pockets blasting through right next to them, and they
were still exphyxiating, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it
was so bad that there was a shock wave that
burst the glass on the Mars station.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I was like, what the hell, why are they still exphyxiating?

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, there should have been at least some people who
just died with shards of glass in their face. And
that was glass that kept out the vacuum of space,
so you know it was thick.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
They probably would have, but then that would have been
too high of a body count for the movie to
actually go out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Yeah, we did a happy ending. Not everybody in Venusville
gets beheaded by a giant shard of glass.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
The other thing is, you've got Howser and Molana sitting
right next to these things as they're bursting open. You
think it would just blow them up and out or
or something. I mean, yeah, if you've got fissures opening
up next to you and blowing out massive amounts of
gas and atmosphere, that's not gonna go well for you either.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Going back to our home nose surgery where I said
that nostril is not going to go back to the
size it was. When their eyes are bulging out that
much is their face and all the blood vessels that
are bursting, Are those going to go back to normal?
Are they gonna be all fucked up?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Yeah, they're gonna basically have like muppet eyes. They're gonna
look like somebody who's had like a bad fire wroid
experience in their eyes have kind of bulged out a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
I would imagine there'd be a permanent damage. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Realistic ending would have been them holding hands of wheelchairs,
blind from their eyes bulging.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Out, saying ooh well, and speaking of that ding. This
is the pivotal moment. We get to the end. We
got the blue sky that the technician talked about, got
the girl, he saved the planet, and then he's like,
what if this is the dream? She's like, we're hurry
and kiss me before it ends, and then we fade
to white instead of black. So is that symbolic of
him having the annual and basically his head just completely

(01:16:02):
giving it up. Did he lobotomize himself.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Or was this the package and he's just gonna wake
up in the office, or.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
It could be real bump bump bum. I'd like to
think that it actually was real, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Like I said, it could be supported in multiple different ways.
But I think it's the coolest way to look at this,
whether or not you think that it's for real or
if it's just a memory or now he's dead, he's abotimized.

(01:16:30):
I think that's cool to kind of postulate upon it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
See. I like that they left it open so that
you can have this debate, because, yeah, when I watched
it earlier as a kid, it didn't even dawn. I mean,
to think about whether it was real or not. You're
just like, okay, cool, that was a really great movie,
and I just moved down with my life. But now
that I'm older and I've had time to sit down
and really analyze, Like, this movie goes much deeper than
just being that action sci fi flick that I enjoyed

(01:16:54):
as a younger man. I like that it leaves it
open to interpretation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Was it real? Was it not?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
You know, I ever really know, So it's kind of
fun in that regard, and it leaves it definitely open
into which a lot of movies don't do but open
it and in a really great way that you can
just sit down and talk about it for hours. You know,
you're all for wanting to believe isn't real. I'm kind
of like I think it might have been obs. I
think it either was memory from recall and he was
done with his little vacation, or I think at the
bottom eyed himself is kind of where I'm at with it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
I love the movie, so I would like to believe
in the happy ending, but they certainly intended for the
viewer to question the ending, and it's open to the interpretation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
You know what else it could be that we haven't mentioned.
It could have been a complete dream for Quaid, because
he had already been having these quote unquote dreams at
the very beginning of the movie, So it very well
could not have even been a total recall. It could
have just been an entire dream.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Man. He's gotta have some rough relations with his wife
going forward to try to kill him, my having an
OJ episode here or something coming up. That's basically the
end of the movie, you guys, any other final thoughts
or anything that we didn't cover that you want to
talk about I mean, I feel like we kind of
covered it up pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Like I said, every time it came on TV, like
I had to watch it and you would interrupt whatever
I had planned. I've purchased it on DVD, IF purchased
on Blu ray, I purchased on four K. I think
we had like taped off a cable television VHS of it,
or we had borrowed it from somebody at some point
in time. I haven't seen it as many times as Predator,

(01:18:29):
but it's one of my favorite Paul verren Hovin movies,
and it's one of my favorite Arnold Swarzeninger movies. It's
a classic. It was stupid to remake it in twenty twelve.
I don't think that's a bad film, and I think
it would have probably gone over a lot better if
it's never been adapted before. But it's forgettable. We can't

(01:18:50):
recall total recall twenty twelve, none of us kids.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
That might just be our advanced stage now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Yeah, it's just a fuzzy memory.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I think you're right, it's overshadowed by the original.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
There's a lot of Generation Z people who only know
this movie through memes, but still it lives on Quatto
is ubiquitous.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Well, Rick, what do you think, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
This movie is amazing. Man. It's got some bits of comedy,
it's got a plot all the way through. It's intriguing.
It's got solid action again all the way through the
whole entire thing. It's got great effects, it's got great actors.
It's just jam packed with everything that you'd want to
watch in a movie. I don't know, it's great, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Well, I think that Sally puts us at the death
clock with you guys have more or less of sense.
So Joey, you're yes, I'm assuming right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
I'm gonna take so many more hours off my life
watching this movie that it's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
So Rick, is it worth an hour and fifty three
minutes off your death clock?

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Sir? Absolutely? I had a blast watching this. I was cool.
I was looking forward to it. I would definitely be
watching it again. I don't really have a regular TV
like I used to back in the nineties, and but
if I did and I happen to see it playing,
I most definitely would stay and watch the rest of it,
or at least have it playing in the background while

(01:20:08):
I make Breakfast or do something like that. This is
just a fantastic movie. It's amazing. If you haven't watched it,
then do yourself a favor and sit down and watch
this thing all the way through. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
All right there with both of you guys, we're three
for three on this one again. This is pinnacle Arnold viewing.
Start with Conan the Barbarian and just work your way
up to Total Recall. Just every one of his films
in that the seven year span is just rock solid.
You are not going to be disappointed if you've watched
the newer Total Recall and you were kind of like,
it's all right, watched this, it's a much better film.

(01:20:43):
I think Joey's right. Had that movie come out, this
one had never existed, it probably would have been a
fine film and far more memorable. But sometimes you just
you don't need to make remakes of films that are fantastic.
I said that same thing with Psycho. Didn't need to
be remade, it was fantastic. Here's no purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Yeah, remake movies that like had a great concept, but
just you know, we're not executed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Yeah, that a wonderful title that had a wonderful poster.
It didn't deliver, but it could have. This movie delivers
on every level.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
It's a classic, and it holds up even though these puppets.
Even on Blu Ray it looked phenomenal. Still, it looked
really good. I don't know how to look on HD.
That's gonna be a Joey report someday. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Four K four K, Yeah, did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
A four K?

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Yeah? I did, And I appreciated the special effects more
because I saw more details that they put into it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
It's nice to know they hold up. I mean, and again,
I think that harkens back to there's something about practical
effects sometimes that are far better than the CGI craft
that we're getting from a lot of these movies these days.
When practical is done well, it's phenomenal. This is a
movie that proves it, you know, right up there with
American Werewolf in London with the whole werewolf morphing scene,
two great examples of practical effects that just pay off

(01:21:53):
and look fantastic. Just a fantastic film. So that brings
us to what are you guys watching, Joey that you got.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Catching up on Rick and Morty. I'm liking Season eight
so far it's out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
I didn't even know the new season was out only.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
Crap, Yeah, we're three episodes deep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
How about you, Rick, what you've been watching? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Since last week? I really haven't been watching a whole lot.
I've been playing a whole lot of elden Ring Night Rain,
making some videos. I just the other day put out
a video on the secret weaknesses to the Equilibrius Beast,
which it was really good. It was it was a
really fun video, tim It was really fun, awesome. I

(01:22:40):
also put out a video for update patch notes for
a recent update. But yeah, I haven't really been watching
a whole lot besides Total Recall and playing Night Rain.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Well, why don't you give us a little shameless plug?

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Where can they find these awesome videos that you've been making.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
It is at the Dungeon Master Elite YouTube channel. So
that's Dungeon Master Elite. There's no spaces. And I have
a lot of videos on souls like games and tactical
or strategy RPGs and things like Bloodborne, Dark Souls, elden
Ring and now Night Rain, and as well as the

(01:23:13):
strategy games like Tactics Ogre, Reborn or foul ceo, those
type of things.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
All right, awesome. Well, I myself I finished the latest
season of Ghosts and I enjoyed it thoroughly. And then
I was so amped up from watching The Naked Gun
last week that I went ahead and watched Naked Gun
two and a half with my son Joey, just so
you know, for future reference, that is the one where
the police car is born into the world that you

(01:23:41):
brought up during that episode, so now you know definitively
which one to quote next time. I enjoyed that one.
It's not quite as funny as the first one, and
the jokes don't come quite as hard and fast, but
it still has plenty of entertainment values. So I'm glad
I watched. My son got some good chuckles off, and
he thought some of it was very funny. You know, again,
most of the jokes hold up. There's a few here

(01:24:03):
and there that you know, he completely missed just because
they're more of a timely joke and they just don't
hit with him because he doesn't have that pop culture,
especially the early pop culture background. But yeah, over all,
enjoyed it, and you know, with that, I guess that
brings us to the end of this guy. So you know,
thanks for joining me this evening, and thanks everybody for
listening to the Middle Aged Movieviews podcast and our review

(01:24:26):
of Total Recall. I know we all enjoyed planting the
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Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Speaking of Rick and Morty, go watch the or rewatch
the episode Total Recall where they have to determine which
of their friends are real and who's a parasite. Introduces
one of my favorite characters, mister Poopy bho.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
And just as a side note, when you're done watching
that episode, go play the card game. It's just as
fun and totally entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
I made a card game based on that episode. Yes
it's good I learned something today, Paul Verhoven, I love you,
good night everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Thanks would be cool by everyone,

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