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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hello and welcome to the Middle Aged Movie Reviews podcast,
where two guys are saying I'd buy that for a dollar.
I'm your host Matt and my podcasting partner is Joey.
All right, Well tonight we have some very exciting experiences
for you all tonight. Tonight we are welcoming with us
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in crime hidden cities, the group from the Growls podcast.
It's Randall, Jesse and Melanie say.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hello, guys, salitation, Welcome to Middle Aged Movie Reviews Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm Randy, I'm Melanie and Jesse.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
All right, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I am looking forward to diving into this movie review. So, Joey,
why don't you tell our listeners what video logues we
are watching tonight?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Tonight, we are watching the movie RoboCop number eight hundred
and twenty four from the book of one thousand and
one Movies You Should Watch Before You Die, written by
Edward Neumaier and Michael Miner, directed by Paul Verhoven and
starring Peter Weller, Nancy Allen, Ronnie Cox, and kurtwood Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Thanks Joey, Okay, So, since we have a few guests tonight,
I will be chivalrous and offer the lovely lady Melanie.
When was the first time you watched the film RoboCop?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
When when your didic come out?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Probably nineteen eighty seven. I'll remember him always being there
in my life.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Wake up in the morning, RoboCop, lunchtime, there's my pal
robo Cop, ninety night time, sitting got my plush RoboCop.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
RoboCop to the left of me, robo Cop to the
right of me. Stuck in the middle with you.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
It'd be a weird form of schizophrenia. Where's like, I
just see robo Cop everywhere?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, well how about you, Randall? Did you see rubble
Cop everywhere you looked?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I will say, I don't know when. I don't
recall the first watch, but I know I was too young,
which seems to be a recurring theme on movies that
I show up on this show for. Because the toxic
waste scene messed me up.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
As a kid.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's that. I see that guy everywhere.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, how about you, Jesse, did you have horrifying nightmares
as a child of Emmi and Antonowski his Meltina form?
Speaker 8 (03:04):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (03:04):
You know, I don't know that I didn't see it
in the theater, but I think at children my age
would have seen things that were rated R on video cassette's.
That that was a real thing that people had, was
video cassettes. So yeah, yeah, what I remember mostly is
that I didn't know that police officers could shoot you
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between the legs.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, they had to be a crack shot shot, that's true. Yeah,
they really did so well, Joey, how about you? When
did RoboCop first make an impression on you?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I was eight years old when this came out, so
I did not see the first one at the theaters.
I do have all recollection of seeing the sequel to theaters.
I was fucking pumped to see the sequel theaters, and
I have, you know, mixed feelings about my memories of
seeing the third film at the theaters. But I most
likely saw this rented from the video store. I think
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the cover of the movie poster back when you know
your Your actual box art was the movie poster. It
was about the same aspect ration of what have you.
I think everybody has that like frozen in their head,
and that that would have been the first time I
saw and I also was for Better or for Worse
transformed by RoboCop. I'm not sure if some of the
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satire went over my head. Probably maybe think the real
world's less scarier.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Than it is.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Probably asking my dad is like, is there like toxic
waste like all over fucking town? It's like, do I
need to be like is this something I'd need to
be like actively worried about, Like not, I don't want
that to happen to me.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
If you're going by movies in the eighties, toxic waste
just flows freely in the sewers everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, people are shitting toxic waste, mostly in Detroit and Tromaville.
Those are the two spots you have to look out
for toxic waste.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Ironically, I feel like this had a brighter vision of
Detroit's future than the actual future would become.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Kind of ado.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, two years and later in Batman, like we have
an open vat of chemicals that people are falling into
it was like, I think I probably have legit anxiety
about dying.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
From some kind of chemical accident.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, Joey, let me ask you this, because of Robocot,
because of Batman, are you afraid to be at a
stoplight with with a semi tractor trailer in front of
you with like the toxic waste symbol on it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
No, it's just like everyone else's final destination too. I
drive around the fucking logs. I think they were actually
promoting the latest film by putting a banner for the
promoting the latest film on the side of a rig
full of logs and then just driving around with it
while people like just organically took pictures and posted it online.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Nice, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
They were the ones driving dangerous.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Yeah, it's balsa wood.
Speaker 10 (05:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The studios like you gotta you gotta spend like way
more money to get fake wood because if you have
an accident with.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
The banner, were fucked? Yeah? Nice?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
They brought it in balls of redwood.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, to wrap it all up, I have to say,
the first time that I seen in RoboCop, I can
safely say, and this has burned into my mind that
I went and saw it in the theater. My dad
and my uncle took me. It was like a guy's weekend.
I went and saw it. I was nine years old,
so I was definitely at a very influential age to
watch it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Was this the most violent film you'd seen at that point?
Was there anything that preceded it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
At the time. Yes, the only thing I remember watching
before that was Wrath of Khan. But yeah, this is
Oh that's a big fucking jump.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So this is like the one movie that sticks in
my brain as a child, And I think the thing
that really stood out to me was you know, the
scene where he takes his hand and he closes it
and he pops out that ice pick that he uses
to access the mainframes. That was like stuck in my
head for the longest time. Maybe that's why I like
Wolverine so much from the comic books. I'm not sure
it was stuck in other people's heads too, Yes, yes
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it was.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah, we had no idea.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
What about foreshadowing At that point You're like, well, that's
a real interesting way to access your computer.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Of course it's gonna come up later.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
And then the way it comes out is like it's
almost like a middle finger because they're like, hey, what
are you doing back here?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Shink.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah it was uh it's the checkof's ice pic.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, And you know, I do have to comment on
what Melanie had said. I think off off screen where
I remember this movie being like there was more scandalous
stuff in it as a kid, but watching a second
time around, or actually like maybe the thirty fourth time around,
I don't I didn't think there was much scandalous stuff
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in it.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, I agree, it's like the hint of scandalous things,
but in terms of in terms of like nudity and
like sexual type content, it's it's pretty tame. Yeah, pretty tame.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
There's there's tits and die hard, but there's no there's
I don't think there's any new in this film.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
When we first see the police station, when Alex Murphy's
walking through, there's a couple of women that were putting
on their bulletproof vests and you got to see their tops.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Oh that's right. My wife even made a comment about that.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
She's like, what, Yeah, So I think they were trying
to show we were visit this theme in a Starship
Troopers where they have co ed locker rooms.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I was about to say Verhoven loves his co ed
locker rooms, both with nudity and dudity.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
In the future, I would get to dress and take
off my clothes and put on other clothes.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
With the women.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's a nice Dutch accent you have there. That's is
close as that wasn't well, speaking of impressions, Joey, since
our resident director Tim is not with us tonight, he's
out on a sabbatical, charging his way through rows upon
rows of old VHS tapes somewhere in the remote jungles
of Borneo. Yes, they have rows of VHS tapes in Borneo.
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I'm going to ask you, Joey, to give us a
special treat tonight with the synopsis. So what have you
got got for us tonight?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Okay, I'm gonna be trying to give us deliver the
synopsis as both RoboCop and Clarence Bonaker. So this is
gonna be tough because I have to switch between voices.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
So one moment, all right, oh ran out of water.
That was a horrible garbling. Okay, ready, my.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Name was Alex Murphy. Detroit is on the brink of collapse,
overwhelmed by crime and financial rumin I was transferred to
the Metro West Precinct. My new partner, An Lewis, and
I pursued the notorious criminal Clarence Bondiker and his gang.
I was tortured. I don't remember what happened next. I
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want to see my wife and son. Where are they?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Don't cry?
Speaker 8 (09:56):
You might rust Clarence Bodiker. You are under arrest.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Hey, arrest this tin man, dead or alive.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
You're coming with me.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You're the one who's dead. We killed you, Bob Morton.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Put what's left to your corpse in this pig robot.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
You're a cop killer.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That's nothing. Dick Jones hired me to kill Bob Morton.
Dick Jones is number two at ocp Omni Consumer Products.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Ever heard of it?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
When the old man croaks, Dick Jones and I are
going to rule this town.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
You have the right to remain solid. You have the
right to an attorney and.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Not going back to the joint. You don't know what
it's like in there. Honestly, my butthole is never going
to be the same.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Sir, you have suffered an emotional shock. I will notify
a rape crisis center.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Fuck you.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I work for Dick Jones. OCP runs the cops. You're
a cop.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
I'm not arresting you anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You're making me nervous, Man Clarence.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Don't you know every time a scumbag dies, an angel
gets its wings.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
When ED two and nine gets here, it's RoboCop.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
The name's Murphy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Very nice impersonation, Joey, I know, I know that's on Ganny.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Solid.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right, well, then let's go ahead and dive into
the world of a RoboCop. You know RoboCop came out
in nineteen eighty seven, or by Paul Verahoven, who later
went on to make some some pretty violent movies as well.
Of course, RoboCop I personally think is most violent.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
All bullshit, total recall.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think it's debatable. Well let me let me put
that question in the panel then, So what do you
think is more violent RoboCop or total recall?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
I know that the violence is iconic in RoboCop, so
I remember it. I remember most of the bullets fired
by a cyborg police officer.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Did you watch the thirty seconds longer director's cut, which
is basically just more more? Yes? Did you watch the
three artical that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, yeah, yeah, we watched the director's cut. I'll say
about the regarding that question, though, I think there's less
instances of violence in the RoboCop, but I think it's
more grizzly when there are instances of violence and RoboCop.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
There's cartoonish deaths in both. But I would say I
mean literally Verhoven like compares Alex Murphy's death as Jesus' crucifixion.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
That's what he was going for. Yeah, So I would
say on that scene alone, it was much more violent.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right into the movie. Then we're introduced to the world
of RoboCop and Detroit's finance via news reports and commercials.
I thought it was interesting that, you know, we get
dropped into this news feed and we kind of see
what this dystopian future that the writers have given us,
and kind of I know what time it was done
as a satire, but looking at it through today's eyes,
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part of me is like, yeah, they were kind of
close to what's going on nowadays. And I don't want
to get too political on anything here, but it is
kind of neat to go back and see this to
see what nineteen eighty seven, you know, future was going
to be like.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I think the the urban legend about Jewish space lasers
literally originated from this because if you if you pay
attention to the space laser bit on the news, they say,
like over one hundred people died in particular cities. However,
two of the several, you know, just a few hundred,
like a hundred, not less than two hundred people were
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ex presidents. Like, so basically they were replying that they
got assassinated by lasers from space.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Yeah, well, and then didn't Reagan at that time, Reagan
was literally trying to launch something.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Called star Wars.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Yeah, So like they were basically doubling down on that
and being like, yeah, that's happening.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yeah, and the at Tech really wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
It turns out he was actually somewhat full of shit
and was kind of talking about things that probably exists now,
but didn't that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, now, Nancy, I think the Star Wars program would
be great.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Got lightsabers in the sky?
Speaker 9 (14:07):
Did George Lucas get like a did he get like
a kickback every time that they mentioned it?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know, the guy who could answer that question isn't
here tonight. But part of me wants to say that no,
Lucas did not, and Lucas was a little pissed off
at Reagan for naming the Star Wars program the Star
Wars program.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I'm pretty sure that Sevester Saloon got invited to the
White House after like he was dropping comments about Rainbow though.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So well, anyway, So the police force turns out in
this future is run by a corporation called Omni Consumer Products.
And I always thought it was kind of funny that,
oh hey, they just took the word cop and rearranged
the letters for their acronym.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
I was right now, years old when I just figured
that out beat.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Me too, me too. That never occurred to me.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
OCP.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And you know, it's a movie like this, like to say,
not to get political, but it's a little difficult because
it's almost like the the movie has a message of
like maybe privatizing everything everything is maybe not a great idea,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And that's actually a question I was going to bring
up later, but we'll go ahead and kind of dive
into it. Is this movie sorry, that's right, it's all right,
I'm rolling with the punches, man. Is this movie a
a cautionary tale about corporate America running the civil sector?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
No America is America is the cautionary Tale. Oh wait,
that's political. Whoops.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I don't know. This movie sounds like a bunch of
extreme leftist propaganda to me.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
To be fair, Verhoeven literally grew up in Nazi occupation.
In one of his earliest memories is there was a
British that got shot down and his dad was walking
him through the street and there was just bits and
pieces of this pilot and then there was you know,
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Nazis with metal buckets just kind of like picking them up,
like they're picking up trash off the street. And that's
one of his earliest memories. So like he grew up
around fascism and so like I could see where like
he's seeing like this nineteen eighties, you know, kind of
right wing agendas and then you know he's making fun.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Of it, right, Yeah, greed is good. That's interesting about Verehoven.
I didn't I've never heard that before, but it is
kind of a bummer, Like look at Starship Troopers especially,
it's so obviously satire and that just totally like goes
over people's heads now, and that's mind blowing and rather
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upsetting to me. But yeah, that makes sense that he
has that kind of thing in his in his upbringing
or his whatever giving given kind of like the things
he satirizes in movies.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, and you know, we get we definitely get a
little bit of that early look with with even the
police uniforms in this movie, you know, because I mean, uh,
you know, when we see Alex Murphy showing up to
the Metro West precinct, you know that he's walking through
getting his uniform. He gets a you know, a bullproof vest,
and I mean everything is like black on black. I
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mean it looks like an oppressive kind of outfit.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
It's almost the start Ship Troopers uniform, isn't it almost?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And then of course, you know, we're also introduced in
that sequence with typical sergeant desk sergeant with the hard
nosed police officer who's like yelling at Murphy and yelling
at everybody when they when they're talking about striking and stuff.
He kind of reminds me a little bit of another
Detroit based movie, Beverly Hills Cop with the one desk
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sergeant fully fully in here.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, that definitely became a stereotype, is that you've got
a the black chief of police that yells at everyone. Yeah, yeah,
we get to see it, of course, and in the
most cartoonist of fashions in Last Action Hero.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Which was excellent.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Right, I like I like that actor though.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Yeah. Is he in all three films or just the
first two?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I only remember him the first two, the third, the
third RoboCop movie, it's I think I saw it once
and I only remember the wings and that's about it.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yeah, everybody thought I was gonna be way cooler it is.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Is Peter Weller in the third one? I feel like
he wasn't he is not one.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah. The actor who plays RoboCop in the third movie
is a little bit more famous for being in Stephen
King's Thinner and he is still acting today. He was
in the latest season of the Last of Us. He's
a He's a great actor, and I think he did
a pretty good job in Roublecop three. It was like
recasting Freddy Krueger. It's like, doesn't matter how good Jack
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Hero Haley does. It's he's not Robert England, Right, you
can't You really can't shit on the actor for RoboCop
three sucking?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh sure?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
And RoboCop three, in fact, it has parts that are
good and memorable. It's just overall it was like, you
can tell it's not a Paul Verhovenfleck.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right, Let's roll into, uh, the introduction to our OCP company,
Omni Corporate Products, and when we were introduced to Dick
Jones and Morton, and Dick Jones is the vice president
of OCP and he's got this new design that he
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wants to introduce to the police force, the ED two
O nine. It's programmed to enforce the law subdued criminals.
And of course we have an epic failure in our
boardroom where we get some some definite hyperviolence. And I
have to say the nine year old Matt was definitely
scarred by this. I remember a whole lot more blood
and a a lot more body flailing as it's falling down.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, it's pretty graphic.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
I mean now nowadays I would say it's it's still
kind of shocking, you know, But yeah, back then, definitely, I.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Remember actually, from like being young and watching it, I
remember being more upset that the like nobody cared that
the guy had just died.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Like, I'm like, you just rubbed the elevator with Skuy's
your friend.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
Yeah, and you and you like don't even like think
about it or talk about it as they leaving anyway,
But we watched the director's cut, so was a little
extended this time. I out loud was like, okay, come on,
that's enough. Like how much you got to shoot the guy?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
He's already dead.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, the director's cut the scene where he lands on
the table and it's just squibs going off, and the
director's cut is four seconds longer, and about four seconds
before the end of the shot, Melanie goes, Okay, come on,
that's enough, and I was like, yep, yep, you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wondering if with the director's cut, in order to get
the movie by the sensors, he had a little extra
because they say, well you need to cut that back.
It would allow him to keep as much of the
blood and gore in it that he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh yeah, what about you, Joey?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Any thoughts on that.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I want to know if everybody's opinion, who got it
worse the boardroom at two on nine victim or the
guy the escalator in total recall who gets used as
a human shield?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Interesting, they might have the same number of squibs.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I feel like there's something about the squibs, and
like the rattiness of the suit when it gets shot
up and the blood may be made it's a white shirt.
That's probably part of it too. Those eighties squibs in
RoboCop feels more visceral to me than Total Recall. But
Total Recall also just has a more artificial look to
it in general. I mean, despite RoboCop being in the movie,
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like RoboCop itself is pretty kind of grimy, and Total
Call it feels a little bit more glossy, and so
maybe that's impacting my view on like which feels more violent.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Well, the boardroom guy didn't get thrown after he was
shot up. Do you get Arnold to toss the guy
and turn him into projectile after he got done using
him as a shield.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think that's part of the reason that it's less impactful.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Also, though, is because it's funny.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
There's less regard for the victim, and you know, he's
just some guy that rather than somebody that is more
of a person that you just got to know on
the elevator right.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
But he was a doue. He did work for OCP.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
The other guy was just like he was random guy
on the fucking escalator happened to be in front of
Arnold's Swartzger's character, So I feel more for the guy
in total recall. But I would say though the death's
more horrifying with the white shirt in RoboCop.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, and Melanie hit on something I hadn't really thought
about too much and is probably why certain movies, maybe
with relative amount of violence like hit different because Yeah,
the fact that this this dude, like there's a room
full of people, this guy's a coworker of theirs for
who knows how long, gets blown away, and everyone's just
like nonplus by it. I mean they're upset about the situation,
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but like they're like.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
When they're gonna clean this up, Yeah, they're like, don't
touch the body.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
There's so little care for the human that just got
blown away. That is pretty upsetting.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think my last comment about the guy getting blown
away is you know, you get he gets lines, you know,
you get some knowledge of who he is. You have
a feeling for the guy he's introduced. He's a character,
he's a paid actor. You know you can sympathize with him.
And if you work in a office setting, you know
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that this guy's got probably a family. He's probably the
picture on the softball league for OCP. You know, there's
there's a backstory that you don't get, but you kind
of surmise in the whole situation. So when he dies,
you you feel for the guy.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
Or he stole every but he's sandwiches out of the
break room refrigerator, and you are just like, well, if
anyone was gonna die, they should have had him fart
in the elevator and then blame somebody else.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
When then there's the character I don't even remember what
his name is who's just always thrilled. He's just like
tastes like baby food. That dude's just like loving it,
loving all of it. It was like that guy's weird.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Johnson. Yeah, he doesn't even have a fucking first.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Name in all three movies, by the way I looked
it up. Sergeant Reid played by I think it's Robert
the Kuhi.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Very interesting man.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
He is in all three films, although I'm guessing he
has less screen time in part three because I didn't
see him very much, whereas Johnson is, like I think,
has a bigger role in each film. And then we've
replaced RoboCop and the only other person besides those two
that are in all three fis and she gets killed
off early spoiler alert is uh is Anne Lewis.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Gotcha with the worst cop in Detroit. Right, we'll get
to it. We'll get to it, all right.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
She can handle herself in the lobby.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
She's a lobby cop. You will kick your ass in
the lobby.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You do not mess with the lobby cop, let me
tell you.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
But she will get you killed because she needed to
look at some dick.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
By the by the way, that's the most fucking.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Baller move in all of movies. By the way, it's like, yeah,
I know you can look at it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, Randal, you had mentioned you wanted to you want
to talk about the ED two nine.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, since it shows up in the scene and I
love me some stop motion.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Now I didn't check the credits, But is that done
by Ray Harryhausen or was he dead by now?
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Oh no, no, no, he was still alive.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
There were there were two kids who grew up worshiping
Ray Harry Housen. They literally would found found this like
Southern magazine that like was not even like official Ray
hire Housen magazine. They were was about these guys trying
to figure out how Ray Harry Housen did this in
this movie and this this and this movie, and and
that was like their bible. They grew up in the
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Church of Harry Housing and so that that's why you
got like just Harry Housen on fucking steroids, because these
guys literally grew up on stop motion animation and doing
it themselves with eight millimeter cameras.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
According to a quick Google searched, it was Tippitt Studio
and this was their first project or whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Oh fuck, I am a liar, then yeah, you're right.
Tippitt did it, and the other two guys that loved
Harry Houses so much they did the optical effects where
like the video vision and stuff, and they had to
make that all look look real. I completely fucked that
all up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Okay, let's let's let's go ahead. And uh so Morton,
who is the in charge of the cyborg program at OCP,
he kind of steps on Dick's toe and and goes
around him and talks to the main boss about, oh, hey,
you know, we uh we got this other program that
that I think would work. And so then we cut
from there, we go back to Murphy and her new
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and his new partner Anne Lewis, and they're currently pursuing
a notorious criminal, Clarence Bottiger and his gang, and they
wind up at a steel mill. I'm guessing that Paul
Verehoven had like the site picked because he uses it
several times in this movie. Yeah, it's a pretty cool
looking steel mill. But yeah, this is definitely this. This,
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This definitely tells you that you should always wait for
backup because Murphy gets a pretty horrific death. And I
believe it was Joey you had mentioned that it was
very messianic in a way. What did what did you
guys think of of Murphy's death? And I'll ask you first, Uh, Jesse,
since you've been so I haven't heard much about about
the movie from you.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
I mean, you gotta have it right, like and if
you're gonna go, you gotta go bit right.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
He's like, you've got you gotta have.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It right.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And it's gonna be even.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
More tragic when it's like, oh man, he's really messed up,
but we saved his arm.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
No, I mean I remember being like, wow, you know,
I mean, this guy is dead and by all rights,
this guy is dead.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
How about you, Randall? What was your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So this scene sets up what I wanted to mention about.
What's her name? The cop his partner, and lewis she's
the worst cop because this is Murph's first day. Murph
is replacing her partner who just got killed in the
line of duty. They only go in on her say
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so like he gives it up. He's like, what it's
your call? Wait for backup or go in. She's like,
let's go in, and arguably she gets taken out in
a truly stupid way, leaving Murph without even her backup
when he comes across you know, some of the criminals.
She's a terrible cop. Yeah, she's responsible for his death.
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I would see.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You know, at what point would did she go back
to the station and someone just go I do not
want to be your partner, dude? Right?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, Murph should have been like wait, wait, no, what's
your track record? How many partners do they had?
Speaker 9 (29:21):
There's an awful lot of cops here. They couldn't fill
it internally.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
This is another scene where the director's cut makes some changes,
adds a little bit more runtime. We see his hand
get blown off by a shotgun. It's pretty explicit. And
they also use a different take for the headshot, so
it's a nastier head shot in the director's cut. It's
a pretty gnarly scene.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
It was an amazing lifelike puppet there. Yeah, you could
see the.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Pores on it, as they said, And then I didn't
really I didn't really get to see how realistic it looked.
I mean, it still looks artificial, but it's like it's
almost like you appreciate the artwork better and the higher
resolution you see it, and both I think it's both
true of this and the total recall four K is
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where like where d n R can be a bad
thing when you're smoothing things out, we're losing some of
that artwork and it actually looks more fake. It looks
better in the more higher resolution that you see it, yeah,
than it did on you know. Oh it's high dof
but they smoothed it over and it looks like a
plastic fucking you know mannequin.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, you can tell that's a big puppet, Like you
could tell that it's the whole face and head and
all that. You can tell it's it's a rubber animatronic whatever.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
But oh, they pissed people off too. They told them
like late, They're just like, yeah, on location, we're gonna
need four feet of clearance underneath this this puppet. And
they're like, what, like, yeah, just raise the floors.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But yeah, I guess that's really all I have to
say about the It also is like the beginning of
in this movie the eighties goon laughter, where it's like,
is it really funny? Is it that funny? Like what
is the the forced like you know what I'm talking about?
Every eighties goon does it.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Like a joker laugh?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Almost?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, Yeah, it's ridiculous. But yeah, that's all I got
to say about the scene.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Did they talk about that in the special features? And
that that character added that that laugh.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I don't want to it's gonna sound bad the black thug,
because they said we want we want an ethnically diverse gang,
and he's the black guy. And I want to say
his character's name is Joe, even though I don't remember
them ever even saying that in the movie, he added
that laugh, and he's got kind of permission from Hjovid.
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And after a while they realized they really didn't need permission.
And there's even a scene where like if you watch closely,
they're moon walking out of a shot and then they
see a like off camera there's like a big table
full of like fake coke and things hit their faces
in it, and then start moonwalking again, and it's like
I never even saw it in the movie until he
slowed it down, and bear.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Hop is like, yeah, yeah, just do more of that
more more.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah that does. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, they're
the goon's behavior does strike of like a director who
doesn't want to or doesn't care to rain some actors in.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
They're like, just go full cage.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Cage.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So after Murphy's killed, his body is then you know,
given to OCP and Morton to use on this RoboCop program.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Did we discuss the elevator scene where where they're they're
literally talking about how they they strategically placed potential volunteers.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
So that's why he got transferred.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I didn't even They're like, oh, he meets these demographics
and we're gonna send him somewhere, so he's going to
be in a high risk situation.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, that's an interesting point.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I didn't even catch that.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, I caught it this last viewing, and I don't
know if I've caught it in previous viewings, but yeah,
they did mention that the the infer instance that like, yeah,
they're transferring kind of rookie people from softer areas to
more hard crime areas to get potential recruits into this
program faster. Yeah, and uh yeah, that's pretty pretty.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Dirty because again it's corporate America trying to you know,
fill tick boxes.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
And you know, it's it is interesting that we see
Murphy's point of view now for like with it five
minutes of the movie and we get that cool like
visual optics screen look to the to the camera to
kind of give you that feeling that okay, we're seeing
through his eyes, but his eyes are not normal anymore.
Verahoven was doing this, you know, POV shot so that
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when we finally do see the reveal, we know that
that it is Murphy, but it's bigger, you know. It
gives the almost an Antica patient.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
I especially like the part where they're like a screwing
in the like uysor thing or something, and it like
each like this is like gets closer.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, the grid like enlarges closer.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, it with some pretty slick eighties graphics. Well how
about you just see any Any thoughts on on Murphy's
uh reveal as RoboCop.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (34:25):
I mean it was just kind of like, yeah, we know,
we know he's RoboCop, but also it felt well timed,
I guess, is what I'd say about the reveal.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
They did a lot of thinking about it because they're like,
you know, let's see him. You know, it's his perspective,
and then you see a little bit of him in
the monitor as he passes himself, and then you see
him walk past frosted glass down the hall and you're
at the perspective of the cops, where like they're like.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
And then when you finally see him, like had to
tell he's even behind it, you know, the cage. So
they said, we wanted to have like this otherworldly what
is this before like you just fall on saw him,
because they said if if the audience laughs when they
see him, we're gonna lose him for the whole fucking movie. Right,
So they were really really really selling hard. But what
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was essentially a very fragile, plastic costume that they had
to repair every fucking day.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
You mean it wasn't really bulletproof.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
M No, it's he was wearing a basically a giant fucking.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Condom made out a tire, which they squeezed him in
with literally ky jelly, and then they were putting the
plastic shell on top of that.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
If they didn't try to make it so pretty, they
wouldn't have it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I appreciated the paint job on this one, and I
remember in I don't know if it's a second or
third one, where they went a little too heavy on
the blue or something, but I like how it's it's
painted to look like that shiny, almost iridescent metal, but
it's clearly not. They just painted it like purplely in
certain spots. I appreciated that. Yeah, I like that detail.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
My recollection was that's like, oh, the first one, he's
kind of gray, and then the second one he's blue,
and it's like seeing it in HDR on a four
K and you're just like, yeah, there's a lot of
fucking color in this first movie, and we did not
get to appreciate the artwork as much on VHS.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know, there's one thing that I have to look
at from a story point of view, And if I
was Morton at OCP, I would have tried to put
RoboCop in a different precinct, right, just so that, Okay,
here's a guy that is worked with these people before.
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You can see like from his nose down his jaw,
you know, you could probably hear how he speaks. You
would think that somebody there who's a cop, who's supposed
to be a detective might figure things out. Put two
and two together.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
It kind of shows the their total indifference to the
like human side of it. They're like, it doesn't matter.
This is our We own this police station, this is
our project. We could do what we want and if
anybody's got a problem with it, they can take a walk.
I guess, like I it does seem like a dumb decision,
but it also adds to their total indifference to humanity,
the human side of it. They're like, no, it doesn't matter,
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this is this is the worst precinct. We're gonna put
them in here to clean it up or whatever whatever
the deal is. I agree, it would have been smarter to,
you know, not put the dude that was that worked there,
that was murdered, put his uh robot zombie corks in there.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
But yeah, it's like this is what you all have
to look forward to.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
But he's only worked there a week.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, he was there a date.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
They're like, oh, just Anne Lewis was the only person
who made any connection with him, and she's a woman.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
So he died his first day there. Yeah, there. She
was a terrible if a partner.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
It seemed like that.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
But I wondered if there was a passage of time.
They definitely at least like had a mourning where it's
like they have lunch and then like she decides to
drive in the afternoon, you know, even though he drove,
drove against you know, her wishes.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
He's like, no, I'm gonna drive poorly. So I was
I was thinking about that.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
There was it was possibility that it was the same day,
or at least was the same week.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I got the impression it was the same day.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
In my head, Cannon, it's definitely the same day.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
That's worse than my first fucking day anywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Like why even by the putting your plack up in
the locker, I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
That's how I like gauge gauge my first days anywhere
be like, well, is it as bad as robocops first day?
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, you didn't go go against the unofficial crime boss
of the city in your first day of war.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
He had an awful lot of memories of that house, though,
considering that he'd only been there for a day.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Questions about that house. She She's just like, why are
why are there dead flowers there? Yet they set up
the the ai kiosk to talk to you about you know,
how beautiful the house is, and there's there's ship strown about,
like they hurried up and left.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Didn't makes sense. It was kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I agree with you there.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
As a bad realtor, I have thoughts on that hated, haunted, haunted.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
He's still haunted. He comes over every once in a
while to walk around and remember him.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, make weird place.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Flowers aren't even real. Those are ghost flowers.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
That should have been a key and peal sketch. Like
somebody already moves in and he's like hello. They're like,
oh shit, he's here again, dear, we're not home.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Always sitting in the rocking chair.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah, like we're trying to watch.
Speaker 11 (39:47):
TV and he's like, I'm having a flashback. That's where
my son dressed up like Satan on Halloween. Carry on, Citizen,
wait too up Polaroid. It's like, oh, my fucking god.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
In future Quebec, I mean Detroit.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Yeah, they were all over the place.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
They shot in Dallas, they shot at Los Angeles, and
you're telling me they shot some of this in Canada
but not fucking Detroit. Yeah, there had to be like
a second unit getting like establishing shots. Is there anything
iconic in Detroit or they're just like yeah, we just
we're gonna shoot this in an abandoned fucking factory in Philadelphia,
and then we're gonna do close ups in an abandoned
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factory and Los Angeles.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
And everybody will just assume it's, you know, shithold, shithold Detroit.
I mean, at least it's not Flint.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's Detroit nighttime.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Other than having flashbacks, which obviously happens later. You know,
Robocops out, you know, doing his job, and we get
this eighties montage pretty much of him, you know, stopping
crime in Detroit. We get an interesting take on the
trustee who takes over the city Hall and he's about
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to execute everybody inside, including the mayor.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Did that all happen in the same fucking day too,
because it felt like that was just like a day
in Detroit. I'm gonna I'm gonna beat the shit out
of the guy at the fucking who has a machine
gun at the convenience store, the liquor store. Then I'm
gonna shoot the guy in the dick, and then I'm
gonna go.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Save the mayor from his opponent that like I think
was lost re election.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it did seem like that was
all one outing. That was his first that was his
first night. But like as we'll get to later in
the show, he could kind of just leave and roam
around doing things.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
It seems yeah, right, I had the same thought, And honestly,
when I was watching this with my son, he's like,
what happened to the guys that he arrested? He didn't
arrest them. They're not in the back of his car.
He just left them where they were at.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I had beef with that too, but they kind of
addressed it. Like the one guy who was a part
of the bad criminal gang that he comes across at
the gas station, it seems like as the scene plays out,
he just leaves that guy beat up at the like
he wrecks and flies into a car. Uh And I
was like, wait, so did he just leave that guy there?
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That's like one of the main bad guys he was after.
But later it's established that that guy was in was
in jail and had gotten out of jail.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
They had to add a line about it. It's like
they let me keep the shirt.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah, because my wife asked about it. She's like, he
just the dude, you know, helped kill him, and she
he fucked him up?
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Is he dead? Is that why he left him there?
I'm like no. He shows up later and she's like,
did he go to jail?
Speaker 10 (42:43):
He probably does, like Spider Man, and he like Robo
like steals him up to a wall and then that
pops him by later and you know.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Your friendly neighborhood robocopy.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, he's a little note I'm bad guys. I was
arrested by RoboCop. Take me in. And of course while
all this is going on, we do see when he
does return back to the station, Lewis kind of suspects
that he's Murphy. We get that idea because he does
that thing where he takes his gun out and he's
shooting another range and then he does the gunslinger spin
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around his finger and then puts it in his leg holster.
As a kid, I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I know, in a sense it's kind of cheesy, but
the scenes where he robocops doing a thing, like when
he first shows up to the station, or he's firing
the gun and we get the like we watched from
the point of view of the cops, like what the
hell is this? What's going on? I kind of love
those scenes, like they're kind it's cheesy, but it's so
well done because it's the gun range and it's just
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normal firing, normal firing, and then the massive gun at
the end, just like semi auto and everybody's.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
Like what's that?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah? Yeah, those are the superhero scenes that I like
in the film as well.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
Yeah, what did you guys think of the fictional TV
show TJ Laser?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Oh it's great.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
It's iconic.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Man, Can you do that?
Speaker 9 (44:03):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Oh wait, that's not that I'd buy it for a dollar.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I just I wanted to see a scene of TJ
Laser like running across or sliding across a police car
like TJ.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Hooker rights, throwing his baton and the guy trips, he
throws his gun fun It's like that's a bad idea,
and the laser goes off shoots a rain over.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It looked like an appropriately low budget TV show. They
did nail the look of like what a TV show
at the time, you like, you know, the production value
of a TV show.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, it was definitely like.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
It was like pre Power Rangers, Land of the Lost
Sid marty Croft budget.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
You know, we we briefly mentioned it, but I do
want to go back to it is during his I
think it's his second night out, he arrests Emo.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
The UH.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I guess he would be the Russian guy in the UH.
In the ethnically diverse, He's the ginger from from Fame.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Okay, Yeah, so so he was literally like he was
a household face from this eighteen eighties druma okay called
Fame about these kids in like a dance academy in
New York.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Gotcha. So you're saying his ginger so he was representing
the ginger side.
Speaker 7 (45:24):
Of he was representing my people. Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know we mentioned that Emill gets arrested. Murphy's starting
to slip back into his memories and that's of course
we get that like a dream dream sequence, and then
they he goes into his old home, we find his
own his old house. You know, we commented on that earlier,
and I just want to go back to a little
bit about him returning to his home. I have to
agree it seemed a little odd that there was still
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stuff laying around. But I have a theory that there
are like squatters in Detroit that just go into homes
and just hang out there for a little bit, and
I think that's probably why there was like all that
garbage and stuff still in the house.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
There's people that go they go in, they live in
people's houses.
Speaker 10 (46:08):
Why there's people there, It's like a thing like they
hide and try not to get caught, and it's like
a sort.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
Of a thrill.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
But they like move around just living in people's houses,
like hiding during the day or during the night or
during the day, and can be like coming out at
night when people are sleeping and eating their food and stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
I would say, I would say the trash thing of
like squatters makes sense, except like some of that trash
was Murphy stuff, like pictures of the family. Yeah, so
like maybe are they just then pulling trash that like
the realtor threw up back back into the house like
it's it's.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
I mean, got to hear your trash from somewhere.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
I guess this place just doesn't feel like a squatter's home.
Put some trash there. Uh, that's better. It was really
throwing off the fun shway.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
It was a squatter's house. Now it's a squatter's home.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
As Murphy's having these flashbacks and he's trying to put
two and two together elsewhere, Jones, our good old friend
Dick Jones, over at OCP, gets Bodiker to murder Morton
as revenge for Morton's attempt to usurp his position at OCP.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Did we somehow skip over one of the best scenes
in the movie that takes place in a men's room.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Oh you know what, Yeah, I totally totally blinked on
that one.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Yeah, that is like the next level intimidation.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
The cinematography in that scene is amazing, and it's like,
I don't even know how they set up the shot,
but it's like there's other films where like you have
this imposing character and you just see like their calf,
their leg or something like that, and then the other
characters that they're gonna intimidate are in the foreground, and
in this case, it's a man shitting on the toilet
and it's like he still has presence in that room
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from the right. And when the two people who are
you know, having this chat and then the others know
that Dick Jones is in there pooping, when the other
guy figures out he's there, after they're talking all this
shit about him literally like zips up, pisses his pants midstream,
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doesn't wash his hands, and just leaves the fucking bathroom.
Speaker 7 (48:20):
You know, some shit's gonna go down.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
And then you have this very close, you know interaction,
Uh the late actor who's got the Spanish name, it
doesn't look Spanish, Miguel Ferrera.
Speaker 7 (48:32):
Yeah, Miguel. He's washed his hands as Dick comes out,
I did did?
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Did?
Speaker 7 (48:36):
Did Dick wash his hands?
Speaker 8 (48:38):
No?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Gross and so and he kind of caresses his head
and then grabs a fistful of fucking hair. How did
how did you guys feel about this? Did you think
it was gonna get home erotic? Was it just about
poo poo hands and police hair?
Speaker 7 (48:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
I still don't think about it getting home more erotic.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
Yeah, when he caresses the side of his hair like
like he's like, he's like, oh, I'm gonna make you
feel like you know, I don't know what the fuck
he was thinking, but he I guess he didn't want
him to flinch when he grabbed the back of his head.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
I thought, that's how guys just acted in the bathroom.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
You know, is that how girls act in the bathroom?
They just pull each other's air.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
That's like, Hey, we're all gonna go to the bathroom
and pull each other's hair.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I think that was Dick Jones's way of clean as
hands and you know, he's like, I don't have to
wash my hands because I just ran it through you know,
Morton's head.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Yeah, that beautiful head of Harriers has got my pooh
pooh my ass.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
Like the hand, it was his right hand, and the
chances are he was right handed.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
It's a real Dick move o.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
Then there's how many do we how many plays on
his name do we get in this two or three?
Because we get it here with Miguel, and then we
get it later from the Dad from that seventies show,
and then he he takes it to the next level
and actually like switches gears on him, gets in a
happier mood and calls him Richard instead of.
Speaker 7 (50:08):
Yeah. It's like they there's so many layers of this movie.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Now that you know we've we've kind of seen where
Jones is upset at Morton. He now sends Bodiker to
to kill Morton. And this is the scene where I say,
it's got my favorite line. And that's when you know
kurtwood Smith delivers the line bitches leave. I mean just
the way he delivers that, and that that was how.
Speaker 7 (50:32):
The director.
Speaker 5 (50:35):
Did it for the script, and like he I don't
think they thought maybe this English second language, there's a
language barrier.
Speaker 7 (50:40):
So he's going by the script. He's gonna he literally
looks over.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
And says, all right, you're gonna say your line bitches leave,
and then you you're the bitches, and then you're the
bitches and you leave.
Speaker 7 (50:52):
And it's like and they were cool with it, and
it's like, you couldn't say that today.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
No, you can't say.
Speaker 6 (50:58):
It's the eighties, that's that pretty common, I think, right,
that was tame.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, yeah, it's such a simple line, but the delivery
it is good. I like it quite a bit. It's
the delivery and how simple it is. It's just straight
to the point. Bitches leave and they do. They're like, Okay,
this guy means business.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
It is his least amounted a dialogue in a scene too,
And we don't know why until you know they pop
in What you know, I guess is a CD with
with video on it?
Speaker 7 (51:29):
A video CD? Did they predict DVD?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Clearly?
Speaker 5 (51:33):
Why did he leave it in the fucking player? Even
though he blew up the house? It's called fucking evidence.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
I was I was thinking that too, like there is
there's a possibility that could still be recovered. It seems
very early in the movie to take that guy out
just because he seems like like he's responsible for the
RoboCop program. It seems like he should be a bigger
bad guy, but he goes out pretty early.
Speaker 8 (51:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
I don't feel like he's a very big bad guy.
I feel like he's like he's a middle man who
got lucky. There's that he didn't develop.
Speaker 10 (52:02):
There's researchers that have been working on that stuff for
decades probably, and he happened to hear about it. When
this guy's read before this guy's thing, other robot thing
went bad and he's like, oh my chance, I can
I can push this through.
Speaker 6 (52:14):
But he didn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
Really, that's true, and that that's this pre kind of
predates them, but I mean, that's that's true.
Speaker 7 (52:22):
I mean if you look at.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Bill Gates, uh he he bought you know, the doss
operating system from someone. And then you look at Steve
Jobs and it's like he didn't invent the fucking iPhone.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
He had a knack for.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
Gathering up good talent, snatching them up, and then making
their life hell until they made progress.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I mean, that's that's Elon's whole deal. Yeah, by the technology,
take the credit, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
He's following a model of success until you know, the
other guys have enough sense, you know, no one to
shut the fuck up.
Speaker 10 (52:59):
That guy kind of just to die though, because if
somebody throws a grenade at you, don't scramble for it
like HII on the couch or something.
Speaker 6 (53:05):
You know, you didn't have to die right there, but
you chose to. That's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, that and the explosion seems to be larger than
what the device implies. It's a hand grenade. Y.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (53:18):
Some future grenade shit.
Speaker 5 (53:20):
And then you found out it's like you got access
to military hardware. It's like, yeah, he already gave you
like fucking grenade of all grenades. Of course he's gonna
get you something to blow up rubble cop with.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I don't know, it just seemed like it was hyper
extended explosion. There's there's holes in the plot, but it's enjoyable.
It's an enjoyable film. I'll say that waste of all.
Speaker 7 (53:39):
Those drugs, yeah, oh yeah, like he did.
Speaker 5 (53:44):
Did he snort from his pile or his own pile,
like he's got that clearance, has got that device where
he just takes like a sniff and then clearly it's
not you know.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
It's the one part of the movie where they forgot
their lines.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
They forgot their line.
Speaker 7 (54:03):
That was one.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yeah, it also felt like another like did this happen
in the same day thing because he said I'm gonna
have some models over to my house later, Oh yeah
he did. And then did he decide to like I'm
gonna in the bathroom, You're gonna fucking die tonight. Like
the movie's very fast paced, Jones just literally you know,
takes an awkward ship and then has somebody killed.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
I can't even keep my phone charge for a whole day,
so it has to be a day.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, it is. It is fast paced. There's well, there's
a dream sequence in there, so I think that at
least there's at least two days in between. And of course,
you know, between when Murphy dies and when we see
the premiere of Robo Cops, significant time has taken place
because I mean, they celebrate New Year's.
Speaker 5 (54:44):
That's the only big progression at the time because and
then they because they threw the holiday in there. Yeah,
I do love that scene though, I think it's sweet
when she gives him the big kid.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
For Morton's death. You know, RoboCop tracks down the Bottiger gang.
There's this big shootout out and RoboCop brutally interrogates Bodiker
until he admits to working for Jones. That's, in turn,
is where we get the link between you know, between
Jones and Bottiger and uh.
Speaker 7 (55:14):
He spills the beans.
Speaker 5 (55:16):
But what how about this standoff, like ship's about to
go down before roble Cop even shows up. You know, hey,
blow this guy's fucking brains out, and they're.
Speaker 7 (55:28):
Like guns, guns, guns, It's got them down everybody. Tigers
are gonna play to night and then we see like
I didn't know, is this a thing?
Speaker 5 (55:37):
Is like stick your fingers and wine and then sniff them,
like and you're doing cocaine. And then the dude takes
a drink out of his fucking glass after like this
dude takes his fucking fingers. That's pretty gross, dude, How
strong is that fucking wine? I don't think it's stare out. No,
like no, I would have like objected to filming the scene.
It's like, all right, we're gonna do a cut and
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then you get me the clean play fingers in there.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (56:03):
He called him an Italian slur too, and he didn't
he did not look at I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
He had that gold chain on his on his neck
hanging down in the very.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
Early he checked all the box.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
Was saying gold chain, cocaine. Check their Italian all right, hey.
Speaker 7 (56:26):
Or or Cuban. You get the Cuban Italians to play
the Cubans.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Say hello to well then you know, so after the standoff,
you know, that robo cop comes in and basically blows
away the entire place.
Speaker 7 (56:40):
The no look shot. Yeah, that's that. That's like he
does like at least two of them in here.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, they they went to town on the squibs. I
mean there's like stuff flying in the air everywhere. It
was it's a really cool dream scene.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
Yeah, beating the crap out of Red, Like he really
does go to I mean he's just throwing him around,
but he does go to town on him through multiple windows.
There's just generally a lot of that's kind of like,
that's that eighties excess that kind of makes it stand
out where there's squibs everywhere, there's powder getting blown into
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the air, too many dudes just getting shot and then
throwing the guy through multiple windows.
Speaker 5 (57:19):
Yeah, it's great because of that fan service. Yeah, we
were put through the same death that Murphy experienced. The
only thing we didn't get was the pain. Right, So
so the audience gets to enjoy this like this is
revenge porn.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
I misused this term, right, Yeah, I'm looking at it
from the eyes of a kid who watched a lot
of eighties action television shows like The A Team. You
always had a scene where someone's getting thrown through a
glass window. You know, like, you know, Ba Barracas was
getting to a bar fight and he throws one of
the guys through a window, and it was like they
took that and they kind of like ramped it up
to eleven. So we're gonna thrown through this window. They
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we're gonna throw them through this window, and then you
know what, we're gonna thrown through one more window.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
It was like it could be some of the same
stunt guys because guess guess which two villains were in
episodes of the eighteen Clarence Bodicker and Joe the Gigling.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Interesting, yeah, and then real quick got to mention famous
one of the I guess famously probably not one of
the I think it's the last window he gets thrown
to thrown through the squib because you know, they do
the thing where they blow the window just before the
stuntman hits it, so that it's technically like it's broken.
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They're not like breaking through. But one of the window
throws it blows way early and you could see it
like window shatter before he hits it.
Speaker 7 (58:47):
Right, I'll have to watch that again. I never noticed.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
Well, the one thing that I thought was interesting too
is so after all this happens again, RoboCop hasn't killed.
He shot some people up, killed a few people, but again,
no one's getting thrown into prison. You know, the bodies
are just lying around.
Speaker 5 (59:07):
Right, that would be another good sketches, like a fuck man.
It's like, yeah, I know, we're hiring man. It's like
every day we got to clean up more bodies, just
like the robo cleanup crew.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
They just after robo cop wiping up cocaine and testicles
off the ground all day.
Speaker 7 (59:25):
Oh look, this cocaine doesn't have any blood in it.
Speaker 9 (59:27):
It's like a really big roomba. It just like sucks
up bodies. Also, Oh for sure, they could.
Speaker 6 (59:37):
Just repurpose the from the beginning. I just put some
brushes on him.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
And he's just like cleaning the alternate the alternate title
of this episode robo cop Rumba.
Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
But it's just a room but with a gun.
Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
I'd watch that for an Now, clean with me if
you want to live.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Wait, no, that's not it's dead or alive. Come with me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Okay, technically everybody's arrested in Bodiker's gang, but yet the
only person that looks like he's got any damage through
the rest of the movie is Clarence. You know, he's
got scars on his face when he goes, when he
when he gets really when he gets released by from
prison by Dick Jones. But I'm getting ahead of myself
on that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
It doesn't stop him from having the creepiest fucking scene
in the movie with a secretary and a wad of gum.
Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
In his mind.
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
It's like the worst Hey, did you think it was
gonna work? It's just like, yeah, look at my fucked
up face.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
You can keep the gun to get to that to
that scene about his release, though, we do find out
that RoboCop now has all the information he needs to
arrest Dick Jones at OCP tower, and of course he goes,
he goes to take him, take him out, or you know,
arrest him. And that's where we learned about Directive four,
which is a fail safe measure to neutralize RoboCop when
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he's acting against OCP executives, which is interesting.
Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
I was gonna say specifically executives.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yes, yeah, specifically the executives, which I think is a
comment also on like corporate culture of like no, no, no,
none of the grunts matter. It's the executives that need
to be It's not even the company as a whole,
it's the executives that need perfective.
Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Yeah, if Johnny in the mailroom, it's got a dui,
come and pick him up.
Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
Matter of fact, fucking shoot him.
Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
But if you're if you got the private bathroom card,
uh huh, we have rumbus for that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And then you know, again another commentary on the future
where corporations are telling people what to do or what
to think. And you know, Dick Jones has the police
force come out and try to destroy RoboCop, saying that
he's you know, defective. Basically, it's like the swat. The
entire force is out fighting RoboCop.
Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Yeah, it was the same crew that was at the
city hall where the mayor was being held hostage.
Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
It's the same guy there. And this is the only
time you.
Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
See and it's not everybody, but it's a few people
who were in Murphy's precinct actually put themselves in harm's
way saying don't shoot it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah, right right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
And I also want to point out that this is
the second time we get to see the ED two
o nine in action. I think I think this is
this is very funny that. You know, he shows up
to the edge of the stairwell and he can't quite
figure things out, and I'm like, okay, I'm just waiting
for him the falling. Sure, he takes that tumble and
falls and and you know, he's laying on his back
like a turtle. Did anyone else notice like the weird
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like animal sound coming out of it?
Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
Noise?
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yeah, in the first scene he's in, they give him
like a roar something at some point, but like lots
of animals sounds when he falls down the stairs, and
then when he's on his back, he's squealing like a pig. Yeah,
why is it squealing like a pig?
Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I'm guessing it came later because they were looking at
the way he was thrashing and they were trying to
think of like what that reminders like, you know, it's
kind of like almost like a pig or something, and
then they puw it in there like fuck it.
Speaker 9 (01:03:25):
Then it becomes part of the replicant test where they're like,
would you let it just lay on its back cooking
in the sun?
Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Oh man, brogiverse.
Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Yeah, one of my favorite parts is where they they
did about it's not even two seconds and they literally
just show it's not so much animation, they just show the.
Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Model fall down the fucking stairs.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
I don't know why, but that just always makes me laugh.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I mean sure, like, why stop motion it just let
gravity do it.
Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I'm a little teep, but.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I want to I want to back up on something
that Jesse had said. You know, he made a reference
to replicants and and all that. Did you guys know
that the writer of this movie actually worked on Blade
Runner and he came up with the idea of RoboCop
from from working on a Blade Runner. So very synergistic there.
Jesse on on tying tying RoboCop the Blade Runner broken
(01:04:23):
clocks right twice a day.
Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
So you think that that guy thought that the robot
was the cop was a robot?
Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, nice little little segue, a little tie into a
previous episode. So yeah, so the the D two and nine,
of course, you know, falls on his back and uh,
RoboCop manages to get away and he's like limping away
and it's Lewis who comes in and saves him. About
the time she started acting like a real.
Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Cop instead of a lobby Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
This confused me as a kid because I didn't understand
the architecture of parking garages.
Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
And he was just going from Florida to floor there falling.
Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
M hmmm.
Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Like, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
I was like an adult when I figured out.
Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
I was like, oh, I'm finally going to a big
parking garage to get on airplane for the first time.
Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Oh, this is how RoboCop did that, all.
Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Right, So of course, you know, Lewis takes takes RoboCop
to Paul Verhoven's favorite set, the steel Mill that apparently
he had free access to use, and uh, that's where
we kind of get, you know, RoboCop doing a little
self repair, and we get to see Murphy's face for
(01:05:37):
the first time outside of the visor. And I thought
that that was a pretty cool makeup job, and I
think it still holds up today.
Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
The makeup is so good. Yeah, it's great. It looks
really good.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yeah. And we also get the cool idea that okay,
he eats baby food, yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Which makes it all a little bit where gross. I
feel like, I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I like the cons behind it, where it's just like
he just has like basic organs or whatever it is
to fuel the organic parts. All he needs is the
basic bear basics baby food. It just needs to have
the nutrients. It needs to be soft so it can
run through the system. I like the concept behind it.
It's weird though, it's people.
Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Yeah, he's not feeding any muscles.
Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
It's just it's literally, you know, he probably has a
prosthetic heart where they advertise that at.
Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
The beginning of the movie you can pick out your
own and yeah, it's it's literally, it's just probably his
face and parts of his.
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Nervous system and his eye, brain, parts of his brain.
Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
He got shot in the head.
Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Yeah, like they're saying, races memory. It's like how much
some of it got erased already? Guys, it's not there.
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yeah, I don't remember the theatrical cut, but talking again
about the director's cut, when he gets shot in the head,
half his brain is gone, so you know, there's not
all that much better.
Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
And then he's still alive because they're like operating on him.
Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
And there's even one of the lines if you watch
the subtitles, they're like, oh man, I can't believe he's
still alive, and it's like then.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
They call it yeah, well, I know in the theatrical cut,
it looked like there's just a single bullet hole that
like grazed his temple, I mean, with the bull went in,
but it's like it didn't like blow up like his
entire head.
Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
They keep that when he takes the mask off and
you see like a silver spot where the like the
hole had entered the front of his fucking face.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
The director's cut you you get to see kind of
the exit wound and it blew a chunk out. Yeah yeah,
I mean it's not unheard of, like people can have
crazy brain injuries and survive for a time. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right. I didn't mean to sidetrack us on that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
You know, you hear about the guy with the railroad
spike in his in his head and you lived for
like however many years.
Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
So a lot of different shows have covered that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I love it. Yeah, but uh anyway, so angered by OCP,
the UH and it's underfunding and short staffing, the police
decided to go on strike and at that time that's
when Bodiger and his gang's gang gets released from prison
and they're now you know, running amuck in the city.
(01:08:10):
And there they're hired to take out RoboCop and that's
where we get to see two really cool cars in
the future, the s Ux six thousand with eight mile
eight eight miles per gallon engines, right right.
Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I kept waiting for the commercial for the car security
that like you electrifize would do, would be criminals to death.
But that's RoboCop too, I think, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I like the little like commercials and stuff that they
throw out throughout the movie. I came kind of think
it's a nice little break in the action and kind
of give you like a satire on the future and
a satire on corporate America.
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
I think he realized they needed some levity and it
kind of became a tradition in his films. And I
would say that's one thing that they actually got bright
and did even better. And the second one is like
there's more and funnier fake commercials.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, now that Clarence is out and he has that
meeting with U with Dick Jones, any any thoughts on
the interaction between Jones and Clarence before we dive into
the whole uh finality of the movie.
Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
The only thing I would say I like that Clarence
is like, yeah, no, I'm done. I'm done with this
and he's gonna leave until Dick Jones offer. I don't
even remember what the offer is, but it's like, you know,
this sets you up in a real good position to
like run all the like casinos or whatever. And he's
just like sits back down, like, oh, I think we
can be friends after all. Like that, just like he's
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such a sleazy villain.
Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
It's about Delta City.
Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
He says there's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Two million workers living in trailers, and he says there's
gonna be prostitution, there's gonna be drugs, and there's gonna
be gambling. And it's sounds like, you know someone who's resourceful,
that would be a fresh opportunity to set up shot.
And that's when he calls him Richard instead.
Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
Of dying right, And he is more confident because he's like,
I'm a criminal. You're you're a corporate criminal.
Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
But I don't give a crap because everybody knows I'm
a criminal.
Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
I don't hide behind it like stuff like you do.
Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
So he has more leverage, really yeah, and him as
a villain, I think he's too sleazy to be like
a cool guy. But he's so confident that he still
comes across as kind of cool. Yeah, Red Clarance, it is.
Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
I think that we eventually do see what they're talking
about with the construction of Delta City, or they begin
construction of Delta City, or they're clearing out Old Detroit
and Robo Cop three. But I want to say that
they were originally going to include part of that storyline
in Frank Miller's original RoboCop two, which was like epically
fucking long and probably super weird. It was eventually made
(01:10:59):
into a comic book. I flipped through it and I
just remember like, oh, well, this is so out there.
I'd almost like maybe the version of robo Cop too,
they made better than this. So they do keep with
that storyline, and they eventually see, you know, at least
the plans to create Delta City.
Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
If it wasn't for RoboCop, I would say that this
is all just like a prequel to.
Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Dread.
Speaker 9 (01:11:24):
Judge Dread, Yeah, yeah, oh they're building Megacity there. You know,
they are Judge, Jury and Executioner.
Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
When did Judge Dread come out?
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
The comic comic was like the early eighties. Yeah, two
thousand and a d in their progue.
Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
Nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
Okay, the seventies, so there.
Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Yeah, you're right, there might have actually been some inspiration
for RoboCop coming from Judge.
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Dread And if Frank I didn't realize Frank Miller wrote this,
he read the script the second story. Oh he wrote
the second one.
Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Okay, yeah, they they they took a lot out of it.
And despite that, they they've changed a lot of his
script for that second movie. Uh, he still wanted to,
you know, probably impressed girls saying I'm in the movie
and they.
Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
Get the cameo.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Sure, jumping to the next scene. There's one thing that
really amuses me. I want to mention before I forget
is when, uh, what's her name? I can never remember
her name? The partner the worst cop in Detroit is
taking a nap and Robocops like setting up the baby food.
He needs to do some target practice, he like intentionally,
like she's sleeping. He looks at her sleeping and decides
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this is one and I'm gonna do target practice.
Speaker 8 (01:12:40):
Kind of movie.
Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah, and she could have got hit with the glass
she's immediately to the last I.
Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Kind of feel like that was a RoboCop being a
little passive aggressive passive aggressive about her getting him definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Yeah, Oh you just going to sleep now, you know?
Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
For you, I don't get to sleep neither you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
One other tiny tidbit that I think maybe it was
intentional was the gang member that threw her off the
railing way earlier in the movie. You know that she
was like checking his dog. Did you notice he gets
tossed off a railing later during the I think that
big like cocaine warehouse scene he gets I don't know
if he gets shot or whatever, but he goes over
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railing and I was like, I wonder if that's intentional
choice to.
Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Have it was a way to also save him from
RoboCop and he would show it up later because he's right,
he was. He was insane next to the guy who
got shot and then that dude knocked him to the
ground and ironically to safe.
Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I just don't Yeah, a reoccurring motif of like, oh,
we need this character later, like they should probably get
shot here now I just throw him over a railing.
Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Yeah, and Bubba Fett wore it better.
Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
That that brings us to uh to the big showdown
between RoboCop and and Boddiger's gang. We get like this
really cool chase sequence inside the steel mill area, and
that's where we see the tossed waste. That probably is,
as we learned from Joey, has ingrained into his brain
where he can't be near any open vats of anything.
Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
I've yet to encounter an open vat. There's always a lid.
Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
That impacted a generation. I'm pretty sure, because I've seen
people even recently on social media talking about how that
affected them as children.
Speaker 10 (01:14:30):
Not long ago, I referenced it when I was talking
to somebody about ozepic.
Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
Face. Oh my god, that is so mean, and said,
I do have.
Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
I do kind of have a strong aversion to just
chemicals in general. If it's some type of chemical, I'm like, not,
I don't want to touch it. You be careful with
that chemical. I think it's because of Robopop.
Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, not only did it scar generation, but it also
made a generation think about what they are handling that
has chemical warnings on it. Right, I have a pool.
I'm always being careful with chlorine. It's it's it's just chlorine.
It's not like it's going to you know, melt my skin,
but it'll burn.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Gen Z and jen Alfa need more RoboCop in their life. Yea,
because I worry about their future if they are not.
They need they need to They need some toxic avenger
in their life and they need some RoboCop. Yes, they
need to understand the true horrors of toxic waste exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
So yeah, so they you know, they have the big showdown.
You know, there's people are getting toxic waste on them,
getting run over by cars, people getting shot up. Poor
Anne Lewis gets shot and she manages to use the
cool robo cop hunting gun that they're they're given to
take a guy out like completely. You'll obliterate him at
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a on a crane.
Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
It's like a mazooka rifle.
Speaker 7 (01:15:53):
Yeah. They called it a can't a cobra cannon.
Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yeah, it's just it was. It was a really cool,
you know, ultra violent fight sequence.
Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
You get to fire that gun in multiple versions of
the video game.
Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
I want to say, from the Nintendo Entertainment System to
the Arcade, you get the cobra gun.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Oh yeah, I mean, if they're gonna do a video
game based on robo Cop, they're gonna put that gun
in there.
Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
They have to and then of course and saves the
day and robo Cop is under a bunch of steel
and that's when he takes out Clarence and of course
he uses the Chekhov's ice pick stabs him right in
the face, and I'm like ooh, as a kid, like, yeah,
that's what that's for.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
That's another quick, real quick difference between theatrical cut and
and director's cut. They're the exact same The scene is
the exact same length. It's just in the theatrical they
used like a media amid or a far shot, a
wide shot of to show like him bleeding out, and
the director's cut it's a close up, like it's a
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gnarly close up with right sprang all over, so yeah, yeah,
there's multiple squirts.
Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
It's right in your face and his yeah right.
Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
And then of course, you know, after that showdown, RoboCop
then goes to confront Jones the OCP Tower during a
board meeting, revealing the truth behind Morton's murder. Jones takes
the takes the old man hostage. That's where we get
the really cool line of Dick, You're fired, thank you, and.
Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
The ridiculous, the ridiculous arms on that that miniature that
puppet they send out like that.
Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Out through the window, wacky waving arm guy.
Speaker 10 (01:17:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
I love that the old the old man got to
elbow him to get out of the way first, like yeah, roublecop.
Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Think it's the last word in by saying that his
name is Murphy and.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
They cut the credits. Yeah, I like that, just like
boom done.
Speaker 8 (01:17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Now, would you guys say that that this this movie
has a happy ending.
Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Then no, h uh, it's an ending like there's justice
and uh. I think between like that last two you
know two lines, the second the last line nice shooting
sun and then the things we saw earlier in the film,
the tirlings of the guns, you know, these bad guys
that mowed him down and did him wrong.
Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
This is basically a futuristic urban Western.
Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I can see that.
Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
It kind of creates the template too, for like anti
hero movies going forward. It's it's like the Crow. It's
like you know, anything where there's a vengeance piece.
Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Yeah, and I'd say it's a happy ending while still
maintaining the satirical criticism of uh, you know, corporate, corporate
American and all that, where Murphy got direct revenge against
the people who were most directly responsible for his death.
But it's not like he toppled OCP or anything exactly.
OCP is clearly an evil corporation. They still run the police.
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They're still probably like muscling out poor people so they
can build out build uh what Delta City or whatever. Yeah,
so it's not like a you know, we're gonna save
everyone from the system. It's like murf, Murf got direct revenge. Yeah,
that was as good as it's gonna get for him.
Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying about.
Speaker 10 (01:19:21):
It's not really a happy ending because if maybe for
the dead guy, you know that is whose corpse is
still being you know, used against his will kind of,
but I guess he did sign something whatever. Uh, for him,
he got revenge, But for the rest of the world,
it's it's just as bad, if not worse.
Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
Now he's and he's.
Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Still showing up for work tomorrow. That's what he've got.
His family's gone.
Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
Yeah, you know it is.
Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
It is an interesting take on on work sites and
job sites. You know, you have little victories that makes
your makes your date go buy a little better. You know,
you get that feeling of satisfaction of completing a project. Well,
RoboCop completed his vengeance, Thank.
Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
Your Union, and.
Speaker 10 (01:20:01):
That reminds me just a little tiny not important. If
I were murdered at a place, I would not want.
Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
To go back there to hide out and recuperate.
Speaker 10 (01:20:11):
That would be like the last place I would want
to go to try and you know, playing my revenge,
I don't want to go where I was murdered.
Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
That that is interesting. Were they thinking like, oh, where's
the last place they'd look for me?
Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
The place I got killed?
Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
They didn't say that, but what what what if?
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
What if you dieded the Castle of Disney World, wouldn't you.
Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
Want to It's definitely not going wait too long?
Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
All right, Well that's pretty much the show of RoboCop.
I have a new question I want to I want
to ask you guys, and that is, is there any
particular scene in this movie that that just still sticks
with you today when you first watched as a kid
or just rewatching it now?
Speaker 7 (01:20:56):
Jesse, how about you?
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Is there anything that that kind of sticks in this
movie that zicon to you on RoboCop?
Speaker 9 (01:21:01):
I mean, it's got to be that first scene where
he's saving the gal and then you know the iconic shot.
Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Gotcha, how about you Randall toxic waste scene aside, that's
definitely the scene that stuck with me most my entire life.
Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
But we didn't even mention that he gets hit by
a car.
Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Yeah right right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 7 (01:21:27):
Seeps like an overswollen, overfilled balloon.
Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
I'd buy that for a dollar. Have we said that
recording it because we.
Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Have to only in the OA several times? Several times?
Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Okay, I bet there's some specific show or combination of
shows at the time that inspired that, but I'm not
sure what they would be.
Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I think it's I think it's a classic, you know,
satirical look at television at that time. You always have
somebody would have a catchphrase or a key phrase, like
you know, with.
Speaker 7 (01:22:04):
Erkele it was where's the beef? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Or with Erkele it was like did I do that?
You know, just to kind of like what.
Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
You're talking about, willis exactly yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
You know, it's just showing how stupid people or how
they feel people are stupid, and they're just laugh at
the same thing over and over again, making copies.
Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Exactly right, and it's clearly like is just stupid it's
not funny, but anybody in the movie who's watching the
TV is laughing hysterically when that show is Yeah. Yeah.
As for like iconic shots, like anytime you get the
slightly low angle look up at RoboCop where you could
see like his chest up in his arms, like that's
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that's the RoboCop shot.
Speaker 8 (01:22:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
There's several several times where he's just you know, I
guess it's kind of the Superhero shot but closer up.
Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
Or when he jerks like he's having the flashback memories.
It's just like in the chair based going you know,
he's just like his upper torsos moving every time he
has like an image. Dude's having a bad trip.
Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
There's there's show what's going on long enough so we
didn't need to. But we didn't even talk about the
dream sequence and just the idea that after the dream
he just gets up and leaves and he's just like
roaming the city doing things. He's gone road. Yeah, they're
just like, all right, I guess, just I don't know,
we know where he's at.
Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Let him do what he's doing with lithium battery technology
is way better in this version.
Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Joey is there any specific scene that's connat for RoboCop
for you, No, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
And uh let's see a nutshot, of course, and I'd
buy that for a dollar. And fuck, I mean that's
funny because like I ended up saying it like the
fucking idiot people that love it in the movie, Like
I was saying it, bitches leave for me, the the
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the nosecandy wine fingers, and the bathroom scene of course,
you know, the the the and god what where at
the end whereverhere everybody you know gets totally fucked up.
It's like it's one after another, like what what are
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the like the least impressive deaths at the end is
like a guy literally gets blown up in a tower
and that gets outdone by the you know, the two
deaths of a meal. It's like first you're disfigured and
then you pop like a you know, a swollen bag
of garbage and your head rolls off the front of
the fast car. And then we've got you know, Clarence
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having like this huge gob of blood reminiscent of the
gob of blood we get on the video of Arnold's face,
you know, you know, get Joss the oas and total recall,
we get this huge blob of gore.
Speaker 7 (01:24:57):
That goes on robocops chest.
Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Mm hmm, all right, well, I think I think everyone's
pretty much covered the scenes that I think are very iconic,
and for me, I'm with you, guys. I think mL
and the Taac waste of getting blown up by getting
hit by a car, it definitely is one that sticks
sticks with me today. So that now brings us to
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our rating system. So, lady and gentlemen, is this worth
taking an hour and forty three minutes off of your
death clock? Joey, where's Robocops sit with you?
Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
RoboCop can sit on my fucking face because I love him.
Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
Speaking of which, that that was the one thing Paul
Verhoven got all persnickety about. He didn't like the way
his butt looks. So you rarely see robo cops kind
of wonky ass in this film.
Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
I love this movie. It was marketed to kids. We
got a cartoon out of it.
Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
I mean, we got action figures out of it that
were excellent, you know, the cap little uh snapcaps in
the back, the removable helmets so you get to see
Murphy's face. We got a marvel action hour. I think
that had a different cartoon in it. I'm kind of
like hazy on that it didn't run very long. We
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got comic books out of it, and then they do
a sequel and then ultimately the third film. And then
there's a Canadian TV series that apparently really sucks. Canadian
Roddy Riddy Piper plays a superhero in one episode, and
so like, I find myself trying to find the better
version of that on Blu Ray just so I can
watch the Roddy Piper superhero episode. It's like, take my
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fucking money. It's and they have they and they will
continue to take my money. And I have to hold
myself back and say, you know, you don't need that.
It's like, you know, it's like you're you're never gonna
fill the void.
Speaker 7 (01:26:51):
It's over, you know. One, two, and then buckle my shoe, three, four,
close the door. Moving on.
Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
All right, Well, how about you, Melanie? Is is RoboCop
worth the the time take off of your death clock?
Speaker 6 (01:27:06):
Sure? I probably wasn't gonna do much else anyway, that's the.
Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Most melany answer.
Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
All right, Well, then I'll turn over to you, Randall.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Yeah? And then some it's worth a watch. I really
wonder how it strikes like younger people who've never seen
it before, but I guess i'll never know. Yeah, it's great.
It's a classic, it's iconic, and I think it holds up.
It's obviously dated, but I think it holds up well.
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And if there's any criticism of stuff that doesn't hold
up well, it's just because reality is more of a
farce than what any satire from that period can hold
up to. Like you know what I mean, Yeah, it
plays more like I don't know whatever. Comedy writers and
satirists will tell you, like their job's way hard hard now, Yeah,
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to come up with good satire. Well, how about you, Jesse.
Speaker 9 (01:28:04):
I mean, I'm just gonna echo what everybody else said.
I guess the other thing that I would say, since
you guys used the death clock as your metric here
pertaining to the run time, I feel like the runtime
on this movie is spot on. There's no fluff here,
there's not There's not really anything I would trim. And
that's why I think the director's cut isn't really much
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longer than the theatrical cut because it was spot on perfect.
So yeah, I would add it to my or I
would take it off my death clock or at it
or whatever.
Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
There's no safe time to go pee, right.
Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
I would also add that oftentimes, not always, but oftentimes,
like I'd rather search out the director's cut, And that's
the case in this one. But if you can't just
watch the theatrical it's it's so like the difference is
so minor that it's not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Yeah, you're probably gonna close your eyes and miss miss
those thirty seconds or whatever.
Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Well, like I said, I have it on DVD, but
I had the theatrical cut. And when I watched the
theatrical cut a couple of nights ago, and then I
went back and I went on HBO Max to watch
the director's cut, the only thing that I noticed right
up at was just the logo intro. You know, the
theatrical cut it was a black background with white letters,
basic bubble letters. But yet the director's cut had that
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iconic grubbo cap logo with the steel colored word font
and like a picture of Detroit in the background.
Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Like in terms of creative decision, creative changes, that would
be it. Otherwise it's just toning down violence.
Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Yeah, And you know, I have to agree with you, guys.
I think it's definitely worth taking your time off your
death clock to watch this movie. I even watched it.
Speaker 7 (01:29:46):
With my kids.
Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
You know, maybe I'm a bad dad, but.
Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
They need to know about the dangers of toxic waste.
Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
This is exactly that's.
Speaker 7 (01:29:57):
Yes, how old are your kids?
Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Okay, now let me back uple bit. I first saw this,
I was nine, My son is fourteen, and my daughter's eleven,
so they're at least in the double digits when they
saw it.
Speaker 7 (01:30:09):
I want to know what your daughter's opinion was. I
know what your son's opinion was.
Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Yes, honestly, I think my daughter was playing more on
her phone than actually watching the movie.
Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
So that makes me fucking sad.
Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
But again, it's it's not you know, it's not Disney's
Descendants or Disney's Zombies or whatever you know, Disney fluff
bit you have available that target.
Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
That makes me even.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Well, that's been RoboCop. I want to say thank you
folks for listening to our review. We would love to
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for Spotify and we'll we'll read that too. Guys, what
are you watching?
Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Really?
Speaker 9 (01:31:06):
What I'm watching most, and I think Randy will probably
echo my my viewing habits is I'm watching dropout dot TV,
like I subscribe to their streaming their streaming platform, and
I'm watching an awful lot of actual plays of dungeons
and dragons, probably because I don't have time to do
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it myself.
Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
But okay, so Randall, since since Jesse told us that,
are you also watching drop out TV?
Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Yeah, drop Out TV Dimentsia twenty Yeah, that's their D
and D actual play stuff and it's great. It's pretty good.
There's a lot of it. It takes some time unless
you binge really hard, but it's great. And also or
I guess maybe I'll save that for you. The movie
we just watched.
Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
Oh, we watched Prometheus.
Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
No, No, Romulus, Alien Romulus.
Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
We just watched.
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I know it's been out for a while, but we
just watched that, like Snight or something pretty good. I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Yeah, okay, quick question, Because I saw RHYMELESSA a couple
of months.
Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
Ago in the cannon, I'm gonna walk away spoiler.
Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Okay, in the canon of Alien, Where where does Rhymulus sit?
Speaker 7 (01:32:15):
For you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
In terms of quality, in quality rank, ranking of movies
as good as like the First Alien or as bad
as now this is my own view, as bad as
Alien Resurrection.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
But believe it or not, I've never watched Alien Resurrection.
Speaker 7 (01:32:34):
Is that.
Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (01:32:37):
Okay, I'd say it's slightly. I'd say it's above Resurrection,
but not that much, just because the first and the
second to me are the greatest, and then maybe this
and then that and then that and then the other one.
Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
About Alien three, where would you put that One's Alien?
That's the one where they're on like the prison I
forgot about that one.
Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
Well, I forgot about it.
Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
So a prison planet where shades her head.
Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
I forgot about that one. So obviously it's not that great.
I'll put that above Resurrection. Uh for me?
Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Yeah, I haven't seen Resurrection, and I haven't seen I
did see Prometheus, and I haven't seen the one after Prometheus. Okay,
whatever that one was, Covenant, I'll say. And I'm a weirdo.
I put Alien before Aliens. A lot of people love
Aliens the most, but I'll go Alien Aliens Covenant or
are Romulus not Covenant Romulus? I'll put it third. I
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guess I think it's up there. It's pretty good. It's
obviously like that's what it's trying to do. It's trying
to be old school alien movie. Yeah, and I like
it because those are the alien movies.
Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
I like, what do you put forth?
Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Alien three?
Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
That's what that was gonna say, like the other movies
make you become an apologist.
Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Sure, sure Prometheus had problems. I have not, but and yeah,
and that's the only other one I've seen. I there's
two the franchise I I'll watch some day, but I
have not seen them.
Speaker 10 (01:34:04):
I was just gonna say, how many references have we
seen with the like half half formed preachers in the
in like big green test tube things and you didn't
get where that was coming from?
Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
That resurrection? Yeah, I know, she plays basketball.
Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
I like the director. I like the director, and I
like I like people involved with that one. But it
looked goofy, so I just never made a point to
watch it.
Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
It's extremely goofy.
Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
And I would say, like Ron Perlman is probably the
goofiest character in it and some for some reason, Like
that's one of the things I liked is when he
like he shot the Spider. And then there was a
joke about Walmart that they made that like you can't
even fucking find it, like they just cut it out
of all versions of it.
Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
I saw it in the theater and then it's like
the Walmart joke's gone.
Speaker 6 (01:34:50):
What I probably give it.
Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
It was kind of like Demolition Man, where like all
all restaurants are Taco Bell.
Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
It was kind of like wal Walmart bought everything they own,
they owned the military.
Speaker 10 (01:35:00):
Yeah, I'd probably give it like more like uh leeway
or whatever, because I do. I love run per Woman
and the French Guy. I love Tess and I love
Steeve loves children, so I already have I like them.
Speaker 7 (01:35:13):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
That's just such a weird like production, Like it's weird
to filter Alien through that kind of way.
Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Team, But if anyone can do it, Melanie can. Yeah,
all right, Joey, what about you? What are you watching?
Speaker 7 (01:35:31):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
I can't even fucking remember that. Like I've been watching.
I watched some wrestling, I think, I think other than
rubble cops, stuff like that. Yeah, one my my favorite
uh wrestler. Oscar has returned to the WWE after yet
another surgery that.
Speaker 7 (01:35:50):
Took over a year, and nobody was ready for no,
and I wasn't either, because it's just like you could
see that it's just like she's not she's just old,
and it's just like, I don't know's.
Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
She'll never wrestle like she used to, and you know,
I'm rooting for but at the same time, it's just
I wish she didn't spend all her money on arcade
games and like build a hobby house in Japan and
she could just retire with some dignity.
Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
But this might be it. I think they're gonna do
one big put, more big push.
Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
She's gonna do something fun and then I don't think
she's gonna go Japan and never come back.
Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Well, if they were smart, they would have tied it
into RoboCop and have her comeback wearing like a RoboCop
suit and then she go in and save somebody.
Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
You know you're you're not wrong, And this is one
of the most obscure robo cop references that's out there,
and you can google it.
Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
I'm not making this up. I want to say it
was for RoboCop too. They had a guy in a
chrome version of the armor.
Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Was it chrome?
Speaker 7 (01:37:01):
Maybe it was? Maybe it was movie accurate show up
on WCW nitro.
Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
Yeah, so if you type in WCW nitro, you will
see like this bizarre sketch with someone other than Peter
Weller and the RoboCop.
Speaker 7 (01:37:14):
Outfit, and it's just fucking ass.
Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Well, I did watch something recently that I thought was fun.
It's from Bloomhouse. Now, for me, Bloomhouse is hit or miss.
There's some movies I like. It's something I don't like.
Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
They're a movie factory and and a lot of the
things off the assembly line are fucking garbage.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
I wanted to go with some dark universe, so I
went and I watched the New Wolfman movie. It's available
on peacock, and I found it quite enjoyable, enjoyable. It
had a fair bit of scary scenes, you know, classic
jump scares in that, but I thought the makeup effects
were really good in the movie. And for anyone who
(01:37:59):
likes where and you know the classic Wolfman look to
to your quote were Wolves.
Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Check it out.
Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
It's it's it's It was a good movie A good,
a good uh good hour and a half to take
off my death clock if I was going to review
it that way.
Speaker 7 (01:38:14):
Was it better than the Benicio del Toro movie.
Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna say so, because it actually felt more
grounded in uh reality, you know, less supernatural and more
you know, this probably could be a virus that affects people.
Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
So but all right, folks, well this has been the
middle aged movie reviews podcast. I want to thank Randall
and Jesse and Melanie for joining us from the Grolks
crew to be part of our show. Randall, where can
our listeners listen to more of your stuff? Yeah?
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First off, girlockspodcast dot com. It's g r a w
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kind of in an off season. We'll take a day
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is the best place to check that out. And also
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there's lots of podcasts on Electronicmedia Collective dot com. It's
still alive and that's it's new tagline. It's still alive.
Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
It's alive.
Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
No podcast network has operated for so long and made
no money ever. So yeah, that's where you can find
that stuff.
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And we are a proud member of the Electronic Media
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It's not OCP, but it's actually pod edit dot com.
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Speaker 7 (01:40:53):
Thanks, for listening to the Middle Aged Movie Review Podcast.
Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
You know, being that they're both Detroit cops, you notice
that like Alex Murphy and like Axel Foley is just
like you're just too transposing with the ian L.
Speaker 7 (01:41:24):
I think I think Eddie Murphy would have made a
good RoboCop.
Speaker 9 (01:41:27):
And now I want to hear like the Axel Foley
theme play as a RoboCop gets out.
Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Of his car over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Would I would watch that for a dollar