Episode 68 - Back To The Future (Rhythmic Social Gathering) - Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, welcome to the Middle Aged Movies Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Three guys saying, last night Darth Vader came down from
the planet Vulcan and told me that if you don't
listen to the podcast, he'll melt your brain. My name
is Tim and my podcasting partners.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Are Matt Joey Rick.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
All right, Joey, why don't you tell us what we're
watching at the Hill Valleytown Cinema this evening tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We are watching the nineteen eighty five movie Back to
the Future, number seven hundred and fifty six from the
book of one thousand and one Movies You Should Watch
Before You Die, written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gail,
directed by Robert Temakis and starring Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd,
and Leah Thompson.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Well, well thanks for that, Joey. Well, guys, here we
are the gang all back together again for once. It's
all four of us here to discuss another film that
is celebrating a milestone. So I'm going to ask you, first, Rick,
when was the first time you saw Back to the Future.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Look, I have to disappoint our listeners, especially those down
under yet again. So today, this afternoon was the first
time that I watched it.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
No, the first time I watched it today was this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
No, I've got a really interesting story about this one,
because this was the first movie that I ever remember
watching when I was really little. I must have been
in first grade or something like that. I had only
probably barely just begun learning how to read. And we
were at the movie store and we were looking for

(02:09):
a movie, and I think it was my mom who
said that she wanted to watch this movie that just
came out called Back to the Future. And everyone's looking
around this movie store to rent this movie, and no
one can find it. And I'm over here, like, you know,
like all right, I could help. So I start looking
around and I find this thing. Look, I barely can read,

(02:33):
I imagine, I know, I was super duper young, and
I picked out I remember seeing the cover art for
the movie, and I picked it up off of the
shelf and I brought it to my parents, and I
was like, Hey, is this the movie?

Speaker 6 (02:47):
And they were like, yeah, that's the movie.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
And I super remember that more than any other experience
I've had with movies in my history back that far.
And I even remember, you know, that movie, not not
in its entirety the first time I watched it, but man,
I've watched this thing a bunch of time. I couldn't

(03:10):
tell you how many times. A lot of times, maybe
not a lot of times, all the way through because
back in the day, you know, when there was you know,
channels like USA and TNT that would play these you know,
movies on repeat and stuff on the weekends. I would
catch whenever that movie was on, I would usually watch

(03:31):
it whatever area was through the movie, I would pick
it up and watch it through the rest of the movie.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
So super excited about this one.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's awesome. It's nice to like be able to go
back to your childhood and remember the first time you
watched a movie. Damn, man, how about you, Tim You
know you're you're a little bit older than us. So
did you guys to see this one in the theater
or did you watch it probably like the rest of us,
on VHS.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, I think go to the theater to see this.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm almost one hundred percent positive this probably wouldn't have
been in my wheelhouse at the time. I mean, not
that I would disliked it, but you know, I definitely
were in the eighties. I'm looking for things like, you know,
sci fi Schwartz sen of your action film, stuff like that.
That's when I'm going to see at the theaters. At this point,
back to the future, I'd be you know, I'll catch

(04:17):
it later.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
So and I did.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I definitely watched it on VHS. I remember going to
the video store and seeing this little kid picking up
off the shelf and I knocked him. I'm like, hey,
you're not even don't have to read this, give me
that littone to watch it. I just took it from
a went and rented it. But yeah, it was definitely
a rental. I probably watched it at home. I'm guessing
with my dad. He's a pretty big movie guy, so
I can imagine that was a rental that I, you know,

(04:40):
sat and watched with him one time.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Nice Well, of course, you know, outside of stealing stealing
videos and candy from children, I guess I guess I
could understand that. How about you, Joey when was what
about six year old Joey. Did he see it in
the theater or did you watch this on a rental?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I did not see it at the theater, and I
have no vivid recollection of being in the theater. I mean,
maybe that memory has been wiped away from the timeline,
but I have a vivid memory of seeing it for
the first time on our tiny little television in the
kitchen on WGN, and I believe they were playing it
because later in that same year, Back to the Future

(05:17):
Too was coming out, and I loved it and I
could not believe. I was just like, I think this
was like the first movie where I was I genuinely
felt like how did this fly under my radar? So
I would have been ten years old, and I'm like
asking my dad about it, and he's like, well, okay,
out like four years ago, and I'm just like, this
is so good, Oh my god, like the end, like

(05:38):
at the end, there's gonna be another one. I was hyped.
So I've been in love with this movie since I
was ten years old. But while I was somewhat aware,
I was aware it existed, I had never seen it
like any more than maybe a minute or something. Maybe
I saw some commercials or something like that. I never
saw the whole movie until until I was ten, and
it was it was probably months before November eight, nineteen

(06:02):
eighty nine, when the second movie came out, which I
distinctly remember seeing in the theater, So I probably saw
it during the summer of Batman or the spring right
before Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm kind of a little bit like Rick and Tim.
I saw this as a rental. When this came out,
I was seven years old, so I think I saw
it when I was like around eight, which is honestly
the perfect age to watch this movie. I mean, it
is a family friendly movie that I enjoyed. I've watched
this so many times in my life. I've owned it
in multiple formats. I've owned it on VHS, I've owned
it on DVD and now Blu ray. And yeah, I

(06:34):
remember as a kid renting it at the local video store,
watching it with my family on the old VHS tape
lay player where the tape actually went into the top
and you had to push it down. Though, but all right, Well,
since we got our first watches out, gentlemen, it is
now that favorite point of the episode where we had
the synopsis, Tim as our resident director, what are you

(06:57):
going to request our acting group for this wonderful movie
of Back to the Future.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, so tonight, Matthew, I'm gonna give you the night
off if you If you remember we did, we did
a little podcast while back called Back to the Future four.
So if you haven't listened to that, everybody, go out
there and check it out. If you've listened this one,
and if you remember, right during that one, I had
Joey do this synopsis, and Joey, you did such.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
A great job with it.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I would like you to reprise your role tonight, and
I would like you to read the synopsis as doctor EMMITTT.
Brown again, but this time as he documents his experiment
in his scientific journal No.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
Doctor Emmitt Brown Journal entry, October twenty first, nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I've finally done it.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
It took me thirty years and my entire family fortune,
but I finally achieved my greatest accomplishment. I have turned
to deloreate that's a car by the way into the
world's first time machine. I tested it tonight with the
help of my assistant, Marty McFly, after fueling it with
some plutonium that I liberated from a Libyan terrorist group.

(08:12):
I successfully send my dog Einstein. Oh, I need one
minute into the future. But soon after he returned, the
Libyans found us hell bent on revenge. I remember being
shot and watching Marty escape in my time.

Speaker 8 (08:28):
Machine, Great Scott, I think I died, but here in
the darkness, feeling strange memories coming back to me as
if they're new Marty.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Marty's traveled back to nineteen fifty five, and he's stuck.
He's altered the timeline by interacting with his parents. Now
his very existence is in jeopardy, and only my younger
self can help him fix the timeline and send him
back to the future.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Nicely tood God.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Yeah it was good man.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
This sounds sounds like we're in the presence of Christopher
Lloyd right here.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
All right.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
So the year is nineteen eighty five. Teenager Marty McFly
lives in Hill Valley, California, with his depressed, alcoholic mother
of the Rain, his older siblings who are professional and
social failures, and his meek father, George, who was bullied
by his supervisor, Beff Tannin. After Marty's band fails a

(09:32):
music audition, he confides in his girlfriend Jennifer Parker that
he fears becoming like his parents despite his own ambitions,
and of course we get a very cool introduction to
the character. We get this really cool opening sequence where
we see nothing but clocks. And I don't know if

(09:52):
you guys picked up on it, but there was some
foreshadowing in the clock sequence at the beginning of the film.
Did anybody know notice the the buster Keaton hanging from
a from a clockhand?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean there's a couple of them
in there. I mean there's actually did you pick up
any others besides that one?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I know there's a few foreshadows in the leader on
in the movie, but I can't think of anything of
the off the opening sequence, and.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is probably really loosely based, but if you notice
when Leah Thompson's name comes up, you know, when they're
doing the beginning credits, it's right when the clock with
the boozer. You know, her character is very unhappy, so
she's a drinker, and it's kind so I noticed that.
You know, we kind of get a little bit of
the foreshadowing too with you know, of course, the plutonium
showing up. That's another one. Yeah. Yeah, so there's a

(10:44):
couple couple of little ones in there.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
In general, I think I think the story elements are
really spot on.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes, yeah, And I don't know if you guys had noticed.
I don't know how familiar are with Roberts and Mecha's films.
But when the TV pops on with this really cool
Rube Goldberg machine that that doc has invented to help
feed his dog and get his breakfast going and everything, well,
the TV first pup pops on and the TV anchor
is talking about, you know, the plutonium theft from the Libyans.

(11:13):
There's also the actress is famous from Roberts's first film
starring Kurt Russell, where she played the lead female, the
lead female in that movie. And she's also the mom
from Mister Belvidere.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I do remember Mister Belvidere, man, I remember that one.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I think there's a couple of weird little film nods
in this one too, if I remember right, one of
the labels on the amplifire that we'll see coming up
here is mark CRM one fourteen. And if I remember,
isn't that in a lot of cubric films as well?
I think that has like some significance throughout his films,
So I think that's a wink and a nod from
them to him.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
It could be I'm not familiar with CRM. I'm only
familiar with Room two thirty of him.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Think it shows up in Doctor Strange Love.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I think it's in.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Clockwork Orange as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's one of those just weird things that if you're
Kubrick fan you kind of pick up on that. And
since we've done several of his movies now, it's just
one of those things like, oh oh, look at that there,
it is, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, you know, I kind of wish that we had
a Kubrick officionado here to kind of help us with
the Kubrick thing.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah. Unfortunately, if we just don't can't seem to find
them anywhere in time.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah, I know, I have to go back to the future,
I guess to find.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
That nice Nice I'll give you a clap for that. Rick.
All right, So just briefly, what do you guys think
of Marty's life in nineteen eighty five Hill Valley as
well as the nineteen eighty five sets. I mean, you
know where this is, this character he's you know, late
for school. He's, uh, he's got this cool skateboard trick

(12:52):
where he like rides on the back of trucks and.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
G my dad lectured me saying, don't you ever fucking
do that? That kid is so fucking stupid. This is
a movie.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
You know, you your dad wasn't the only dad that
lectured his kid about skateboards and bicycles as well. What
did you guys, What do you guys think of of
Marty McFly in this opening sequence here?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And pretty spot on for the eighties. I mean, you know,
the dress is right, the town looks correct. You know,
that's what kids were into. I mean, you know, it's
rock and roll skateboarding. How how can you go wrong?
And it's you know, like every kid wanted to be
a rock star at some point. Skateboarding was, you know,
coming back into fashion again. You know, kind of was

(13:32):
big in the seventies, went out and out's back in
the eighties, and of course now we're amping it up
into extreme skateboarding and stuff. So and I think even
Michael J. Fox said it wasn't a big stretch for him.
You know, he's like this, this was my life in
high school. This is what I did so. He actually
did know how to ride a skateboard, I mean, you know,
fairly proficiently, and things like that. He was very interested

(13:54):
in rock and roll music and stuff. And it's just
even the whole amp thing. I mean, you know, being
a guitar player myself, especially back in the eighties and stuff. Man,
if I walked into somebody's house and I seen that app,
I would have done the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Just push all those knives all the way to ten
guitar ready to go and let it rip. Man, It's yeah,
it's just awesome.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I mean, I can't imagine what that would be like
to just even if you again, like I have only
got just the one the one power court off before
it flies you across the room, it would be totally
worth it. It just would be awesome.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
He should have answered the phone being like, wait, what what.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
For sure? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
The only thing that I think you kind of missed
on the whole amplifier is, you know, the year before
they came out with this is spinal tap. They should
have at least had a dial that goes to eleven.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
That would have been nice as well. That would have
been a nice touch.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
But you know.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean they they didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
The amp didn't go to eleven, but the speaker was
like eleven feet tall. I mean, I've never seen speak
of that thing in.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
My entire life.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Room right, super excited to see something that large.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You just imagine what it would take to push something
like that plutonium.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's why I was positioned where it was.
I was close enough to power that a up.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
The only thing that made it even funnier is he's
got this giant app and he's got like kind of
a travel guitar that he's playing on. It's like a
half sized guitar. So it's just it was so ridiculous
in scale. You know, Ian's huge guitar is small. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well what about you, Rick, what'd you think of the
introduction of Marty McFly.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I agree with a lot Tim said. I mean the
jean jacket that it was awesome. It's yeah, super cool
seeing his like little moves that he's got. I mean,
I do not believe anywhere else I saw anyone riding
around a skateboard and like grab it on bumpers and
tailgates and things like that. Obviously, as a kid, I

(15:58):
was like, oh, that's cool, Like that'd be like really
good way to get around town, but also a really
good way to probably get yourself run over.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
You hit one rock, you're done. Man, I can't tell
you how many times I was skateboard. You hit a
rock and you're you're just eating assphalt. I can't imagine
what you'd like to do it a thirty five miles.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Per hour, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
And you know what, though, as a kid, I was
pretty darn proficient and bicycle, you know what I'm saying.
I used to ride my bike everywhere. Man, But you know,
those were the days, though, you know what I'm saying.
Everyone was riding bikes and skateboard. But it bike was
just so much easier and better in anything. But back
to the movie though, Man, Yeah, it was super cool.

(16:40):
The soundtrack Quey Lewis and the News, hang Man, some
real good songs? Was it to? Two songs primarily from
Q Lewis and the News.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, back in Time, Back in Time in Power of Love.
You know, it's a shame. It's a shame that Huey
Lewis never really got really super popular and that it
just had he just kind of fill off the face
of the.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, nobody's ever heard of that sports album that
he did at all. I just fell, you know, fell apart.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah, so that I mean, that was super duper, duper cool.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
I mean, he is the embodiment of cool, you know
what I'm saying, Martu McFly. And I also liked when
it opened up. The first things you see is like
all these clocks, but and the title is, you know,
back to the Future. So I thought that was kind
of cool way to open it, you know. But yeah,
I mean it's cool. That's the That's the best word

(17:34):
I think for everything that we're seeing here in the
very beginning, and a lot of the stuff that we're seeing,
like you had mentioned, a lot of stuff we see
in the first probably ten minutes is super relevant clips
of what's gonna happen in the future. It's it's not
like things happen down the road in this movie where

(17:56):
there's no explanation.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
It just is.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's like every thing has an explanation. Everything is that
there's a point to every little every second pretty much,
there is a point of why it's in the movie
and how it relates to somewhere else in the movie.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
So it all makes sense. So really really good opening.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now I have I have to ask you guys, since
we're kind of pointing out all the little East eggs
and stuff. Did you catch the Huey Lewis cameo.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
You're just too darn loud.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes, yes I did.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, he's the guy doing the auditions.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
I did not checked out, man, I can't believe I
missed that.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, he was the one who said that.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I got it. Wasn't there a famous eighties album cover
where like Huey Lewis is talking to megaphone. Oh no,
I'm thinking of Brian Adams.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm sorry, he's such an eighties nerd.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, how about you, then, Joey, what'd you think of
Marty McFly.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, he seemed a little too cool for school. Like literally,
he's late and he's running into Strickland. You get our
first lecture from Strickland about being a slasher, just like
your old Man's a lot of foreshadowing at a lot
of build up, set a lot of sets up, setups
that are going to pay off later. I don't know,
like it looked a little it was a little too cool.
You know, I didn't live in a town where like

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he drove by and saw pretty ladies and leotards, you know,
doing aerobics and let alone, would they wave at you?
So yeah, Marty seemed like he was the coolest guy
in school. But yet his band's too loud, So there's
there's some inconsistencies there. I mean, I don't think anybody
thought of Michael J. Fox is other than like a snotty,

(19:33):
you know, overachiever, Republican from Family Ties, you know, a
lover of Ronald Reagan. And now all of a sudden,
he's this skateboarding like you know, Bart Simpson before Bart Simpson.
Well technically yeah he would have been yeah, even before
the Tracy Elmets show. Yeah, but he's skateboarding like nobody's business.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Eat my man, Barty.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Marty was definitely the complete opposite of Alex P. Keaton
from Family Ties and on. That's kind of what got
me into watching this this movie when I was a kid,
was because I liked Family Ties as a kid. Growing up.
I still love Family Ties, and you know, seeing seeing
him in this movie as the cool kid, you know,
I idolized Marty McFly growing up. He was the kid

(20:15):
I wanted to be. You know, I lived in a
very very small town. I wanted to ride my skateboard
all over the place after seeing this movie. I never
really grabbed the back of a truck or a jeep
because I knew that as soon as I hit a rock,
my ass would be flying all over the place.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well that's because you, like us, all lived in the country,
so there was there was again too many rocks, So
we weren't doing skateboarding off the back of the truck.
We were doing like you know, snow inner tubes and the
winter off.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
The back of right.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Our stupidity just came in another form. Yeah, But I
have to ask though, did you guys when you see
Marty with the rest of his family, is your first
thought he must be adopted? Like the contrast between him
and the rest of that family, that's the only part
that seems a little off kilter.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's like, I don't know how that Kike comes from.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
That family even well, he is the baby obviously, or
the family, and usually the baby of the family is
like different, you know, they're usually different, yet.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Not that type of different, but they are different.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I wouldn't say like neglected, more like tre like a
redheaded step child.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'm not taking any offense. But I just figured out.
I just figured out that I'm on the wrong microphone.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
Yeah, I do have to agree with you.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
And even even Doc Brown points out that, you know,
even asked, asked, Marty, were you adopted when they were
at when they were at Hill Valley in nineteen fifty five.
But you know, yeah, it does seem weird in the
in the whole dynamic that Marty is is kind of
cooler than the rest of his family. One other point
I wanted to I wanted to make in this is
that Marty's accused by the principle for being a slacker.

(21:56):
I don't think Marty gives off anything that shows that
he's a slacker. Yeah, he's a cool kid. He's still
getting going to school. You know, you gotta get the
impression that that might not be true. I think it's
just Strickland's way of you know, bullying kids.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think it's I think it's paying for the sins
of the father. He didn't like the father, so he now,
you know, puts that onto Marty as well.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I think he's trying to measure up whether or not
he's going to be anything, make a real name for
himself after high school and the other thing. I don't
know if you caught this, but when he was disciplining
the two of them, he looked at Jennifer and he
was like, super duper easy on her right, and then

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looked at Marty and he was like, you piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So yeah, Well, do you think that Strickland knows that
Marty's dating out of his league?

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Then maybe that's that's I mean, we're.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
All talking about about nineteen eighties Claudia Wells.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
He was probably standing on apple box every time, you know,
he had a like looker in the eye. Michael J.
Fox is a little guy.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
But I mean, let's talk about Strickland. I mean, the
dude's been doing the same job for thirty years, maybe
twenty years. I mean, yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
The assistant principal. I think in the past.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Is that what you just think maybe he would move
on to like being a board member or something like that.
So maybe the failure of his life is also something
he's taking on. I mean, maybe he's perfectly happy to
being the principle.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
I don't know, yeah projected, yeah, yeah, but I feel
like he's probably.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Also jaded one way or the other. That does happen
a life.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
But I also think McFly gets picked on his dad.
He gets picked on by everybody in that town. Nobody
has any respect for him. So and I think it's
a it's a small community. I mean, I think really
when we look at it, it's probably a pretty pretty
small town. So if you're the family that nobody respects,
everybody in town feels that way about you, and it

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just keeps carrying over from, you know, generation to generation.
Like we kind of kind of got that. I think
when we what was the movie we did with the
court case in it, Matthew to Kill a Mockingbird, mocking Bird,
thank you? Where, well remember that family's like he ain't
got no money and then the teacher's like, what what
do you mean because she's new the town. He's like,

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everybody knows that they don't have any money and they're
the poor people in town. You know, they had that
that and that stigma carries over to each of the
family members. You know, it doesn't matter whether it's the
father or the five year old kid, they all have
that stigma. And I think maybe some of that's what's
going on here, you know with the McFly family.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Gotcha, Yeah, that that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, speaking of of the family and George, you know,
we're then introduced to Biff and George and their whole interaction,
and we kind of get established this bully mentality that
has been through George's life. Uh, Biff constantly on him
about getting work done for him. Biff is a supervisor.

(24:57):
He ends up telling George, Hey, you got to write
his report for me. You get this this whole like
idea of what what this whole family is like and
the whole interaction just in a few minutes of these sequences.
I was Marty and my dad was being bullied by
a supervisor and see my dad constantly getting you know,
talked down to. I would definitely at that at that age,
I would definitely be a rebellious team and I would

(25:19):
probably wind up pouring sugar in his gas tank.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Or maybe even put a banana down the tailpipe, you know,
I do.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
We did gloss over that scene where he's like, I
spilled I spilled beer on my shirt. Who's gonna pay
for that? It's just yeah, you're drinking and drive.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, never mind that that's not important. It's not important
that I crashed it. What really matters is this fucking
beer on this Who's gonna pay for that?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I love the way he said it. Well, then it
so's injury.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
He goes over the fridge like and then I come
all the way over here, and all you got for
me is light beer. It's just.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
I know I'm gonna ahead of myself. But did you
guys know something? So like in the Current nineteen eighty five,
when George is meek, mild mannered Clark Kent, he has
light beer, bud light, all this light light stuff. At
the end of the movie, when we see him again
and everything's been resolved, he now has Miller High Life,
the Champagne of beers in his garbage can.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, that's when you know you're living large, man. I
wish they'd have left it in too. There's another scene
where he gets walked on by another one of Biff's gangs,
because you know where we see they're sitting at that
table and they're eating that peanut britle. There's a scene
that they cut out where one of Biff's you know,
cronies from high school shows up with his kids. He's like, hey,
but fly, my kid's selling peanut brittle. I put you

(26:39):
down for case you go with that, right, Marty looks
at him, He's like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. He's like
seeing he looks at his art. He's like, see, I
told you only had to go to one house. We'd
sell it all or whatever. And he drops off the
case of peanut brittles. So like everybody's still walking on
this guy. He just no spine, no respect. It's just
you know, nobody, nobody likes him and nobody cares to

(26:59):
you know.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
I don't know if you guys caught this, but after
they established that they had that you know, dinner, right,
and Lorraine the mom sits down and they're talking about
like rehashing the history of everything, and there was it's
more than once. It seemed as though she you could

(27:20):
see it in her eyes that like she was ashamed
with her choice in marrying this dude, you know, on
numerous occasions, both from before she told the story and
seemed like at the very obviously at the very end
when then they closed the story with the the daughter
called it the Fish under the Sea Dance under the Sea,

(27:44):
where at the very end of her retelling the story,
he I think she said something like, you know, right,
George and he's like, you know, knee deep and Jackie
Gleason and laughing his you know, rear end off and
looking like, honestly like a freaking fool man.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
It was bad.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
And you know, I have to give props to Leah
Thompson on this because she definitely conveyed a middle aged
wife who's just looking back at life and just realizing
that all of her choices that she made, all the
all the mistakes and you know, just just really really
living in that into that personality. I just I was

(28:23):
amazed at how much the transformation she she did from
when she was younger later on in the movie to
this performance. And I just thought it was it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, it took him bou three and a half hours
put that makeup on, and I'll tell you what, they
they did an awesome job because it pays off. She
looks way older and looks exhausted. I mean, she just
looks exhausted, like you said, Matt, just not happy with
her choices in life. You know that about saying that.
You know, she tries to romance the history of how
they met and everything, and then she's kind of like

(28:53):
and that's how I knew I'd spend the rest of
my life with him. And she looks over and he's like,
he's laughing at that Jack, you know that that Honeywinner's
episode or whatever. You can just see that look in
her eye. Who was like, and that was the dumbest
thing I ever decided to do.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
You know.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah, you know what, if you look at a more
current picture of her and compare it to what the
makeup was done for, you know, nineteen eighty five, Back
to the Future, it actually looks pretty darn close. Yeah,
they nailed it, with the exception of I think the weight.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
You know, yeah, they nailed it for sure.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And the amazing part is, but Michael J.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Fox is actually older than almost everybody in that room,
you know, I mean really, that's so. I mean, he's
older than the two people that are playing his parents,
and you can't tell. I mean, you know, Chrispin, I
don't even think they did much with him other than
Greece's hair back and make him look like a pretty standard,
you know, fifties guy living in an eighties world. But
that guy's so weird anyway. I think it just works,

(29:55):
you know, I.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Think they did tell of their cheeks, because his cheeks
actually looked a little like I would I would almost say,
like drawn or saggy on his face, like he's got
a little lecture, but they made it look like he's
got a little extra weight on.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah. It looks good either way, for both of them,
but especially for her, really good.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
But when you think about there not being much age
difference between other people in that room, you still don't
really question that those are his parents and even his siblings,
you know, are older than he is, when he's really
older than them, right, I find that too, when you
know that, and you still go back and look at
it and you're like, no, not, I believe in this.
It all looks right to me, you know it just
it's it's impressive.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, props to their to their acting ability. You know,
these are these are young kids. You know, they're they're
starting their career off, and you know, here the are
they've planted this this great movie and they're acting like
middle aged adults. And I don't know if it's because
I you know, when I went to watch it again,
I'm looking through it through the eyes of a middle
aged person myself, and I can sympathize or have empathy

(30:52):
for George and Lorraine as they're you know, raising these
teenage kids or even kids past high school, because it's
a demographic that I'm currently in, and it's just it's
a it's amazing how much that they got these mannerisms
knocked down and these abilities to make you feel like
their characters are old and tired.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
But I think some of too is just Chrispin. Dude,
he's just weird and awkward as a whole. But you know,
this is really early on, so he's super nervous. Even
oftentimes it was so bad that they would have to
later go back and re record his lines because he'd
be so quiet delivering him things. But I think that
his awkwardness and his you know, nervousness about playing this

(31:29):
role really paid off for the you know, George McFly character.
I think it just adds and enhances to that character
in a way that if he had been a more
experienced actor we might not have gotten.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Yeah, let's go ahead and head back to Marty and
what's going on. When we were first introduced to him,
he received a phone call from Doc Brown. Doc told
him to you know, meet him at Twin Pines mall
at one o'clock in the in the morning, be sure
to bring his his uh.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
Video camera video camera Matthew Yes, video camera, so that
that night, Marty meets his eccentric scientist friend Emmett Doc
Brown in the Twin Pines Mall parking lot.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Remember that, folks, Twin Pines. Doc unveils a time machine
built from a modified DeLorean powered by plutonium. He's swindled
from the Libyan terrorists. After Doc inputs a destination time
of November fifth, nineteen fifty five, to day he first
conceived his time travel in invention, the terrorists arrive unexpectedly

(32:29):
and gun him down. Marty flees the Dolorean, inadvertently activating
the time travel when he reaches eighty eight miles per
hour or one hundred and forty two kilometers per hour
depending on where you watch this movie At.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Zephyr for Canadian friends and our Australian friends.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yes, So, gentlemen, what did you think of the introduction
of the DeLorean and Doc Brown in this movie?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
You know what, when I was watching it today, I
was like, holy smokes. This character reminds me so much
of the way Michael Richards played Kramer like the way
that he was first introduced jumping out of that car,
the way he has those lines with blank stares. It
absolutely screamed at me, like, oh my god, this is
where he got this character, how to play this character

(33:15):
of Kramer from Seinfeil.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
It was. It was cool, man. It was definitely a
breath of fresh air.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Even though I've seen this a bunch of times, I
was watching this, I laughed so many times, not just
in the introduction of Doc Brown, but like just altogether
throughout the whole entire movie. Just watching him and the
way that he plays. Way Chrispherloyd plays this character is
just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
I really really, really really love it.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think it's just absolutely crazy insane that on every
type of car they could have picked, it picked a
freaking Deloreate, which, by the way, is super cool.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
It is like super duper duper cool.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Right, like the doors open like, but it's it's just
it's wild. Doc gave some sort of silly explanation talking
about how it had like a steel frame or something
like that and it worked with the fox capacitor or something,
but he couldn't explain the whole thing because he got
interrupted by things happening in the moment.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yes, man, the Delorean's super cool.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
And I highly highly highly appreciated how they had it
was more than just some radio shack remote controller or
some for some like remote control car.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
You could see it was like souped up.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
It had all these wires sticking out of it, all
this extra mumbo jumbbo and stuff.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
It looked super super cool. Man, it looks super and funny.
It was funny though too.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
You know, that's actually the ones that they used, like
stuntman and people really use, like that's the industry standard
remote control for controlling cars. Yeah, so that's really where
that came from. So that's probably a legit piece of
equipment that was available back in nine ten eighty five
to control cars the way they do.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
But it's cool, man, it looked awesome.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
It says they picked it because they knew they could
do that gag that it looked like it could be
mistaken for a flying saucer in the fifties.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, because of what we're gonna see later, because of
the way that the doors open and everything it gave
it that's very sci fi looks.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So that's why they picked it.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Actually, John DeLorean was so happy that they chose his
car for this film. He sent them a personalized letter
thanking them for mortalizing his car. He was thrilled.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
And I also have to last day, I gotta add
is I just for a movie that seemed like it
was so up to this point, pretty kid friendly. It
was really interesting when Doc Brown looks over at Marty
and he's like, you're gonna see some serious shit.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah. I laughed my ass off today when I was
listening to that line. It was great.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
That is by far my favorite line in the movie,
because it's the first time and anyone in the movie
drops a curse word, and the way that he delivers it,
it's so it's so kit cool and deadpan, and I
always look forward to hearing that line that When I
watch it on like broadcast television, and I didn't hear that,
I'm like, wait a minute, that's not right.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
The half of charm of Christopher Lloyd's portrayal is his
ability to not only like just acting as a whole,
but he uses his face to great effect, like just
the looks and the side glances and the way that
he contorts his face.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
And then he'll look at Michael J. Fox and Michael J.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Fox for again, you know, being the kid for Family
Ties has those same comedy chops.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
He's able to just basically.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Compliments whatever you know Christopher Lloyd is doing, you know,
like Marty's big things, put in the hand behind his
neck when he's asking a question like in Disbelief and stuff. Yeah,
you've got Christoph Lloyd who's kind of like popping his
eyes out a little bit and giving those looks, and
he'll even almost briefly break the fourth wall. You know,
he'll kind of look at the camera and stuff for
just a split second. You know, he's kind of talking

(37:01):
to the camera and things like that, and he just
he overexaggerates some of the movements and stuff. But I
don't think that it's it's the Kramer character because you know,
actually Kramer comes out after the fact. I think the
Kramer character is built off the Doc Brown character, which
Christopher Lloyd somewhat built it off of his Jim mcnatowski
character from Taxi. Yeah, I think that that's I mean,

(37:21):
take Jim mcgntowski, now make him really smart and eccentric,
like you know, like he was in Taxi, and now
you've got Doc Brown I mean, I really think that
that's what it is. So, you know, even though he
he says that he kind of based the character, you know,
roughly off of Albert Einstein, and there was a composer
that he used to Leopold Stokowski, which I'm not super

(37:41):
familiar with, but he's he Yeah, I think he was
like the Philharmonic or something like that. He was known,
but he's very eccentric. So he used those two guys
as a basis for the character. But he did the
same kind of looks a lot of times in taxi
like okay, well you know, you have that look and
he shrugs some weird exaggerated things. So it just led
to this characters so so nicely. Oh yes, yeah, I

(38:02):
totally totally agree. I mean a lot of Doc Brown
has to come from Jim. I can only see Christopher
Lloyd playing Doc Brown. And the way that Christopher Lloyd
just kind of gets absorbed into the character, I mean,
because I.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Mean, you know, he plays Uncle Fester in the Adams
Family and is a completely different character than than Doc Brown.
But yet somehow he manages to like vow the or
ingrain into that character that you forget that it's Christopher Lloyd.
It's it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I think there's only one other person that might have
pulled it off, because you know, there's quite a few
people that auditioned for that role, and the first person
they actually offer to, because Christopher Lay was their second one,
I think probably would have done.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Just as well, which was John Lethgobe.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Okay, he was their first choice, and I can see
John Lethcoe probably pulling off. It wouldn't be the same,
but I can see it still being eccentric and that,
you know, based on his third Rock from the you know,
from the Sun character, I can see that working as well.
But still Christopher Lloyd, now you see him, you you
can't think anybody else.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Well, how about you, Joe, you've been kind of quiet.
What's your take on on Christopher Lloyd and Doc Brown.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think he's memorable in every role he's ever had.
This is the picture they're gonna they're gonna run when
he passes away. Eddie Murphy jokes that, you know, they're
going to show that cgi picture of a donkey in
his obituary. But for Christopher Lloyd, it's going to be
back to the future. Like you said, There's there's one
other actor who could have pulled off Doc Brown, but

(39:29):
it wouldn't have been the same. So I think Christopher
Lloyd is always going to be remembered as Doc Brown.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I totally agree with you. I
think that I'm not looking forward to the day when
when Christopher Lloyd passes, But yeah, I think when he
when he does die, they're gonna have so much Doc
Brown stuff available and and everything will be about Doc Brown,
much like as we record now. You know, Hulk Hogan
had just passed away, and everything that I see has
been either him ripping his shirt off of Wrestle Maine

(40:00):
or him in Rocky three.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Was it Thunderlips?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, yep, he fights Rocky Balboa.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
You put him and mister T on the map, and
then they both were in the WWF together for like
a good year.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I mean, I'm sorry, but when I think of hul
Cogan and I think of movies, it's Suburban Commando.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Which wasn't that also a Christopher Lloyd movie?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yes, he's in that movie.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
The Dad.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, there you.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Go, full circle? Man.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Yeah, wow, man.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Matthew, are you drinking a light beer?

Speaker 9 (40:33):
Are you drinking a light Yes, I am drinking I
am drinking a light beer.

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Speaker 4 (40:58):
So Doc manes to trick the Libyans into uh uh
building them a quote atomic bomb, when really all he
does is he builds its, hits the bomb case and
fills it with pinball parts, and then steals the plutonium
so he can make his his DeLorean. And I thought
it was a neat little uh foreshadowing at the beginning

(41:20):
of the movie when they talk about the plutonium being
stolen on the news reports, Libyans show up in a
Volkswagon bus and Doc has to stop talking about the
the the DeLorean and the time travel and he gets
gunned down, and I'm like, man, that's that's kind of cold.
That's almost like, you know, seeing Bambi die Bamby's mom

(41:42):
died at the beginning of the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
It was upsetting to me as a kid, like there
was no gore, but I when he screamed and fell over, like, yeah,
I kind of freaked out a little bit.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
I don't think I did.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Man, I think I'm kind of like with Tim. Our
family was watching action films, so it was just another
dead movie character.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I wasn't expecting to see a main character get shot though.
It wasn't an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. It wasn't Commando.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
I mean, it wasn't Game of Throne now, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
But I think it's more upsetting now because we're really
vested into the character.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
He's become a beloved character. At that point, we had
just met.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I mean, you know, our introduction, we've we've seen him
what is he two three minutes worth of screen time now,
I mean, you know, we see that truck open, all
that smoke comes out, which they never do explain, like,
you know, all this smoke comes billing out of the
back of that truck for no apparent reason, and then
he rolls out that car opens up doors, smoke building
out of the car.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
We never see that twice. I would like to know why.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
I mean, maybe Doc Brown is the way he is
because he's in there just you know, puff puffy passage
in an I sign, you know, puff puff past puppy.
So I don't know, you know, maybe maybe there was
like a Cheech and Chong tie in that they had
to cut, you know, cut out. I don't know, but uh,
I always thought that was interesting. But yeah, I think
it's more upsetting now because he's a Blove character. You

(43:01):
see him get shined.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
You're like, oh no, no, not Doc.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
We love Doc. We don't do that to Doc, you know.
But back then, yeah, I'm with you action films, you know,
another guy dead, move out to the story.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Plot convenience so that he can keep moving on.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
What did I do? I did?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I do want to go back on though, with you know,
when Einstein travels through time to be pushed a minute
into the future, the the Lorrean is covered in a
sheet of ice, and we only see that in just
that one scene, you know, And I just I often thought,
what what about when Marty travels back further back in time?
You know, why don't we see you know, the DeLorean

(43:37):
covered in ice? When he comes comes through in nineteen
fifty five or when he comes back in nineteen eighty, because.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
He crashes into that that well, it used to be
a movie theater and then it's some sort of church, right,
And I think that's probably why because actually, you know,
I don't know if you've noticed, but that ice melted
pretty fast. Like the ice started melting after a matter
of moments.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You actually California.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah, are they supposed to be in California? Though, I
mean they never really state where they're at other than
be and twin.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Pines, h Hill Valley, Californias and California.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Face the same place as a karate kid.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
I don't know, that's all valley.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean I guess it would melt
pretty quickly, you know, California wise, although at one in
the morning, not so sure. Is it hot?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
No, it's cold, Dale cold.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
And and it's funny because I mean, Hill Valley. You
get this impression that it's a small town in Los Angeles,
but yet you know, they have your town square. They
have uh, an old diner that's now converted into i'm
gonna say curves or an aerobic studio. But like and
I only caught it this time around, but they have

(44:51):
a movie theater that is an adult movie theater because
the title on the on the on the kiosk had
said some adult films, and then one of the.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Was adult bookstore.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
And I'm like, has hill value really fallen and that
much destitute in nineteen in the thirty years since they've
been around.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Well, you know what, though, But I think that that's
more to the point when Marty travels back and he
makes a comment about the school and you could you
could see how he was looking around at everything in
the downtown area of how clean it was and stuff
like that. So I think that's just more to the

(45:31):
point of how how everything turned the shit over this
batter of thirty years.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I wonder if they did that to really reinforce the
wholesomeness of the nineteen fifties version of the town. Yeah,
you know, because because all of our visions of the
nineteen fifties is you know, leave it to Beaver or
the Dick van Dyke show, that thing very wholesome, very clean.
You know, man, the dad wears the suit even when
he's at home. You know, where's the tie and this

(46:00):
pants and stuff? The family units are very prim and
proper and things like that, So I wonder if they
did that to show, you know, again, the fifties is
just a squeaky clean time and now we're not necessarily,
you know, heading towards the dystopian future, but you know,
things have definitely gotten more lax in the future.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Did we ever meet the bomb in the in the
past that Marty knows in nineteen eighty five?

Speaker 4 (46:26):
I thought the commentary said that the bomb was actually
the mayor from nineteen fifty five, but I don't think
that tracks as far as his an.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
No, he might have been like the little kid jumping
with spring shoes or some shit.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
True, I don't think you probably most bombs don't live.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Thirty years, so you know, like yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Mean, although we don't know what his status was in
the past.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Right when we see alternate nineteen eighty five in the
second movie, we see that he's still a bomb in
biff Landing. Nothing changed for him except for he's a
little angrier.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Right and you know, well, not to segue too much
into two, but it does seem like they take nineteen
eighty five Hill Valley and they kind of like crank
it up to eleven to know, they like, really really
compact it in there. Definitely, the morals have changed in
nineteen eighty five, and I think you might have hit
the nail on the head there, Tim, I.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Believe the hit piece.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
So yeah. So Marty arrives in nineteen fifty five and
discovers that he has no plutonium, so he cannot return
to nineteen eighty five. You know, when he arrives, he
shows up the same spatial location but different different times.
So he winds up running into the barn of the
farmer who sold his evergreen pine farm to the mall

(47:46):
developers and they named it, of course Twin Pines because
he had two pine trees. Marty then is you know,
shot at by the farmer, so he makes his escape,
and as he makes his escape, he runs over one
of the twin Pines, so now it's the lone Pine farm.
It causes Marty to have to explore the burgeoning hill valley.

(48:08):
Marty encounters his teenage father and discovers Biff was bullying George.
Even then, George falls into the path of an oncoming
car while spying on a teenage at Lorraine changing clothes,
and Marty is knocked unconscious while saving him. When I
first watched this, I never really realized that that was
Lorraine until I recently watched it a couple of years ago,

(48:30):
because it dawned on me that he's actually spying on
Marty's mom. He of course, Marty then wakes up in
his mom's bedroom and finds himself being intended to by
his mom, but not the mom he was thinking of.
It's Lorraine from nineteen fifty five, and of course she
has the Florence Nightingale syndrome, and she becomes infatuated with Marty.

(48:54):
And I just have to ask you, guys, what did
you think of Marty and his reactions to just being
just discovering nineteen fifty five and all his interactions with
his parents.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I love the diner scene, Crispin Glover saying what because
he's just staring at him?

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And then I mean, just leading up to that, it's like,
did you just jump ship? What's the light preserver? You know,
I'll have a Pepsi Free, which was the name of
you know, a version of diet pepsi at the time,
and he goes, if you want a Pepsi pal, you
gotta pay for it. It's like I loved the diner.
I loved Oh, you're gonna be mayor, Mayor. And then

(49:38):
it's or we're off to find you know, following his
dad and find out he's a peet pink to and
then it says the grandfather shouts into the house of
one of these damn kids jumped in front of the
black car, and then I just remember the sound of
Marty's head like kind of hitting the pavement and then

(50:00):
like falling back. I was like, ugh, like if so
freaks me out. I was like, oh, that's that's not good.
If you've I think by that age I did, I'd
already assustained the head injury at least once. So uh,
I was kind of sensitive to, oh, you don't want
to hit hard surfaces. So it was it was intense.
And then he wakes up and we find out it's
got purple underwear that I didn't understand. Yeah, I was

(50:25):
not wearing I was wearing whitey tidies until like.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
College count decline. You know, I had to agree with you, Joey.
It his head hitting the pavement did kind of remind
me a little bit of uh Night, The Night of
the Living dead. When Barbara's brother hits the gravestone, it
sounds like a candalope hitting the.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, whatever they used, it was an upsetting sound.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah. How about you, Tim, how would you think of
Marty's interaction with his parents and how would you feel
when if you traveled back in time and you saw
your young parents as teenagers.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Well, first, I'd expect my dad to look exactly the same,
because I'm not ever sure he was a teenager, I
think he was just an old man his entire life.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
But outside of that, yeah, I thought.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Was interesting me just first the initial just shock of
seeing the towns, you know, so different in that fifty
esque setting.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I like when he's.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Kind of wandering around the town looking at the town square, which,
if I remember, I think that town square is the
same town square they use in like one of the
first episodes of The Twilight Zone, and it's the same
kind of scene with the kick kind of or somebody
wandering around kind of looking like that old dazing fuse too.
So I thought it was kind of interesting that they
reuse that set again, it's kind of a standard one

(51:41):
on the lot. But uh, just that's how I'd be, like,
what the hell I mean, just the contrast would be
just jarring, you know, compared to what we have today.
To see that whole fifties set up and then yeah,
to run into your father at the diner, like, that's
just be like seeing getting picked on.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
It.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I think you'd be I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I mean, I guess in his case, would he really
be shot because his dad gets picked on all the time. Now,
you know, I guess you'd just be like, well, now
it makes sense. But I like, after he kind of
has the confrontation with Biff and then Biff's like, you know,
I don't rest of you. You're getting leaves, and and
you see Marty just sitting there staring at him, and
they did some great camera shots and he just kind
of keeps looking out and kind of coming around just

(52:24):
that whole look, and you see Chris was just like
trying to eat his food.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
But it's out of character.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Truth to me, He's like, what, you know, just kind
of yells him, and I would think he would just
put up with it.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
It's so funny that why is Marty the one person
he kind of snaps on or whatever. I thought that
was a little out of character, but still very interesting
in Michael Michael J. Fox is just the look on
his face. I think it wud be how your look
would be too, just seeing your dad like that, just
you just kind of staring him down, kind of eyes wide,
just in disbelief. And then I thought it was also

(52:59):
interesting that when he follows his dad around town and
they get to that tree and he's like, oh my god,
dad's a peeping time, Like you totally don't want to
know that, but you know know that about your parents
for sure, you know. And then he falls out of
the tree and he pushes him. But I think the
part that Joey really missed. He's like, oh, you know,

(53:22):
I hit one of those kids. It wasn't I hit
one of those kids. It was I hit one of
those kids again. So I'm pretty sure they jumped out
in front of my car. Yeah yeah, I'm pretty sure
that that tree got a lot of action from a
lot of peeping town boys. Apparently that's a good tree
in order to have a good visual.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
To look at.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
She might have been putting on shows, Yeah, baby, she
might have known. She obviously doesn't close her curtain. She's
all about just you know, taking off her clothes I mean,
she probably feels secure on the second floor, who can
see me?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
But you know, that tree lines up.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
It's got a nice, nice, you know, kind of incline
on it or like layro real nicely on it, and
you know, see the full show go on. So uh yeah,
I'm pretty sure that tree got got a lot of
a lot of use because apparently he hits a lot
of you know, a lot of boys getting overly excited
and falling out of that tree. But and then, yeah,

(54:15):
I just the whole idea that they bring him in
and then he somehow ends up.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
In his mother's room under the covers with no pants on.
That's weird, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
I mean, I guess, you know, maybe that's a fifties thing,
like you don't put some of me in the bed
with their clothes on or whatever.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
But I don't think that those pants were supposed to
be off.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
But you know what I'm.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Saying, because when when she's when he falls out the
bed and the mom is like, Lorraine, are you upstairs?
Kind of thing, and then she's like, oh shit, put
these pants on. Like you could tell that wasn't supposed
to be those were not supposed to be off.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yeah, well, and I liked the little comment too where
he's like, we're in my pants.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
She's like, it's on my hope chest.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
It's like there there.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
I did not catch that.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yeah, yeah, there's a little little something there, you know.
And then she's and she's obviously not just taking off,
but she's checked out. You know.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
That was the thing, write your name on your underwear.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
She's like, oh, Calvin, He's like, why do you keep
calling me that it's written on your underwear. It's like,
oh yeah, but the purple underwear was weird. I'm just like,
I don't know anybody that was wearing that kind of underwear. Yeah, no,
not at all, but uh, you know that was a
bit weird. But yeah, he goes to jump into those
pants and stuff. I thought that was just yeah, it
was just weird, weird, weird, weird, weird.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
But yeah, but yeah, it was. It was a fun
interaction between you know, his just his dad being picked
on and then you know kind of kind of kind
of snapping on him and the being the peeping time,
and then his mom kind of hitting him, and.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I think, doesn't that scene happen?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Doesn't he like kind of get knocked out in all
three of the films, and every time somehow he ends
up back with his mother and she's like something like that. Yeah.
He's like, oh, mom, is that you you know? He's like,
oh yeah, She's like, oh your hit or whatever. R. Yeah.
That's kind of a yeah, a little reoccurring thing too, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Because it happens in the second one too, because he
gets knocked out why one of Biff's cronies, and then
he wakes up in the hotel in the alternate nineteen
eighty five, and there's his mom with the rather pronounced
prosthetic right right tracks of land.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yes, yes, the hils are alive with the sounds of music, yes, yes, yes,
yes yeah. And you know how Marty doesn't end up scarred,
you know, like and needing all kinds of therapy and
drugs to get through this, I'll never know, you know.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
I liked how they kept the political thing going, with
the truck driving around making those campaign ads and stuff
like that. So I'm in the nineteen fifties. You had
the mayor back then, and then you have the character
who was the U the janitor. Was his name Goldie
or something.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Like Goldie Goldie, Goldie.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Wilson and then you know he we already see him
doing his campaign in eighty five, So I thought that was.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Cool, but was really cool for me.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
The last time that I watched is a few years ago.
I watched my daughter. I noticed that one of Biff's
goons is a very famous actor.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Billy Zaye.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
I didn't notice that until the last time I watched
it years ago, and I was.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Like, wait a second, Wait a second, I know that phone.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Wasn't that the asshole from Titanic?

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Now he's the asshole from back now.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
See.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I got all excited because I was like, Billy Zane
isn't the guy that does all the introversials you know
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I'm Billy Zane for such and such a pow cleaner.
Love to watch Billy Zaane play Billy Mason a fucking mo.
I losing my shit over that. I would I would
pay top dollar Opening Night. Did anybody recognize who played
Marty's brother in the past?

Speaker 6 (58:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yes, famous for Yes, Supergirl's very own.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Supergirls, well Supergirl and Superman. Yes, my favorite.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Jimmy that completely.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Which I like to put a hat on. So yes, Jimmy,
Jimmy Olsen. I didn't realize it until today that that
was his brother, because we mostly just stare at him
in the fucking photograph disappearing, which is the consequence of
getting hit by the fucking car him.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Yeah, I say, him saving his dad.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
You know, I think that you brought the picture up.
I mean, I think it's worth talking about too. Like,
they did a really nice job, you know, because time
travel movies can be really tricky sometimes, especially because you
you got to kind of go into all all that
exposition to explain time travel and how it's affecting things

(59:04):
and this, that and the other.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
And they didn't really do that.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
They really watered down simplified it, but did it in
such a way that it completely makes sense. You don't
need a lot of explanation and you get it. And
the picture was a fine example of that. Like again,
this is I think an example of a picture is
worth a thousand words. You understand that his interaction with
his parents has now caused him to, you know, maybe

(59:26):
erase his entire family. It didn't have to go into
a lot of explanation, not like the you know, if
you step on above, it can have these crazy ramific
cases blah, blah blah blah. You know, we get to
physically see it within a picture, you know. So I
thought they just did a really nice, elegant job of
dealing with the time travel without having to go into
great lengths of explanation or you know, to get the

(59:47):
audience on board or understand how it's working. So I
really applaud them for that. It's nice, it's clean, it's easy,
and it's fun.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
I attributed to them making sure that every scene was
meaningful and had a point to it. There were these
There were like like I just said, you know, you
had the marathon, and then you had the marathon. You
had Biff being like, do my report at work, and
then you had Biff say do my homework, you know,

(01:00:16):
and and make sure that your name.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Isn't on it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
So you had these repeats from these repeated parallels between
past and future, and I think that really helps to
kind of like help you to understand that that history
repeats it stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
And man, I thought it was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Man, I thought it was super cool all that stuff
to roll in together, especially when you when you couple
this in for the next movie, the sequel to this,
and all the stuff that happens in that one.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Man, it's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Well, especially the fact that they didn't plan on doing
any sequels, you know what I mean. So the later
those movies.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Tied them in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
They did a great job there too. They're like, okay,
well on the how do we connect this all together?
And they did a fine job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
It was the two he continue I think later because
like I only saw that version on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
It was it was added in on the VHS tape.
It was not in the movie originally because they had
no plans on never making a sequel, and then later
on they decided, oh well, let's go ahead and do
a sequel on that, so they're in the videotape release.
They added on the TV.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
By the change in language from one and two because
in two, the opening scene is the ending scene for one,
and Michael J. Fox in the end of one says
what will we become a bunch of assholes? And then
two at the very beginning scene, which is the same
ending scene, it says, will become a bunch of jerks.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
I don't know, probably just NBA did reshoot the entire
and yeah, because they swapped out they swapped out actresses
because Claudia Wells is recast by and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Then Crispin Glover is They had somebody completely different play
and they just gave them old man makeup in the
future to look kind of yeah, spinny even in the past.
Like that's something I look forward to, like watching on
four K and seeing like, Okay, can I recognize the

(01:02:15):
other actor playing Crispin Glover in the fifties in any
shots that aren't reused material?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Well, that ends up getting them sued too, because they
didn't have permission. So Chrispin ended up getting a nice
little settlement out of that, Neil, because like you did,
now have my permission to use my likeness since we
parted ways.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Speaking of Crispin and a younger version of him, one
thing I do want to point out, so you had
mentioned him, the town Square was used in several other
movies and stuff. Did you know that it was originally
coined as the Mockingbird Square due to the fact that

(01:03:00):
it was used and to kill a mockingbird? And did
you recognize it as the same courthouse.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I could even remember the name of the movie, let
alone matt Man, but see I somehow subconsciously tied that
all together.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
There you go, Okay, I'll give you that I had.
I had another point on Chrispin, but you know what,
I lost it. So I'm just gonna keep moving forward
for me, Okay, all right, all right, So Marty tracks

(01:03:38):
down and convinces a younger Doc. Oh that's it. See,
I think I drink back, all right, all right, cool.
So I wanted to comment on on you guys talking
about the exposition and on time travel and everything. I
got to hand it to Robert Semechis and Bob Gail
because they not only you know, did they do the
whole circular thing where time repeats it out and you

(01:04:00):
see the same scenes over and over but at different
variations to it. They did a great job of just
entwining the exposition of Doc Brown telling Marty about time
travel and the ramifications and all this stuff just in
the conversation. So it's definitely, like you said, tim with
the whole picture, it's it's showing it, not telling it.
And I think they did a great job with that,

(01:04:21):
and I think that's what makes help kind of helps
makes the story feel so timeless, is that they were
hitting all the right beats. They they you know, explained
it through the visuals and not necessarily through like some
kind of long, lengthy exposition while they're driving in a
car somewhere, which nobody likes watching.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
They really removed all the super nerdiness out of it,
and you know, because sometimes that can be a big
turn off to people like I don't, you know, especially
people that don't like sci fi films. This is very
accessible by them because they don't feel like a sci
fi film. It just feels like what it is, a
fun comedy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Yeah, So, anyway back to what I was saying, Marty
tracks down and convinces a younger Doc that he isn't
he is from the future, but Doc explains the only
source available in nineteen fifty five capable of generating one
point twenty one jigawats of power required for time travel
is a lightning bolt. Marty shows Doc a flyer from
the future that documents an upcoming lightning strike at the

(01:05:16):
town's courthouse. Hmmm, convenience, I don't know. As Marty's siblings
begin to fade from a photo he carries with him,
Doc realizes Marty's actions are alternating the future and jeopardizing
his existence. Lorraine was supposed to tend to George instead
of Marty. After the car accident, early attempts to get

(01:05:38):
his parents acquainted fail and the rains infatuation with Marty
just deepens. So, yeah, it's it is interesting that you know,
he's able to convince Doc that he's from the future,
and of course, you know, we see this really cool
invention when he's doing it. You know, he's got that
thing on his head that kind of looks like a
giant mushroom from Mario Kart and and uh, you know

(01:06:00):
you put something. Yeah, he sticks that section cup right
onto Marty's head, and he's like, you know, talking to him,
trying to get figure out what's going on, and he's
just like, he doesn't even like listen to Marty. He's
just he's he's convinced that he's he's going to figure
everything out with this contraption. And then he's like, you
know what this means.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
This contraction doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Work, you just get super angry. I just I thought
it was neat that it kind of really explains the
eccentricness to Doc Brown. Uh, but guys, what did you
think of of a young the young Doc Brown? Was
there anything that kind of made you feel a little
differently than what we saw earlier in the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Well, well, I mean, I there was a couple of
lines that he said. I don't know if I had
noticed anything really that different, but there were a couple
of lines that he said that were just so freaking funny, man.
Like the one where he was he was talking about

(01:07:02):
it was actually in the school. I mean he made
mention of it once when he heard it the first
time in the garage, but in the school he actually
made the second reference after Marty was like, oh man,
that's heavy, and he was like, why is everything so
heavy in the future?

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull? It
was like the film bro.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
And the other one was in the garage when he's
talking about using plutonium for the to power the car,
and he's like, look, Marty, maybe in nineteen eighty five,
plutonium is available at every quarter drug store, but it's
not a come by. So those like the writing is

(01:07:42):
just so great, it's just so great. It just it's
it sparkles man, It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think that the writing,
just the dialogue between the two, I mean, even when
Doc is like, you know, commenting on Marty's mom falling
in love with him. He's like, too bad, you couldn't
get it like a date, like some kind of social
interaction with you know. And he's like, you know these
these teen night teenage pre pew best or these pubescent

(01:08:10):
uh social gathering or whatever?

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
You think?

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
What you like a dance the enchantment under the dance.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Yeah, he said, a rhythmic, rhythmic ceremonial ritual. Yeah, yeah,
I wrote that was a really good well great, it
was great. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
What about you, Tim, would you think of of uh
Marty's interaction with his parents, you know, and and and
Doc and the whole play of the storyline about you know,
we get this conflict that he has to solve before
you can get back to nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Well, I think by the time he reaches Doc, he
realizes that he's in trouble, that things are are going awry.
But then he's got to convince Doc who he is.
And and I like how he kind of knocks in
the door, you know it docks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Like, don't say words, you know, come in here, and he.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Puts the stuff out of you know, So he's already
we see the eccentricness that we see in nineteen eighty
five still exists, you know, with an early doc. So
this guy hasn't changed much. This is who he is,
very consistent. So I enjoyed that. But I like once
how Marty explains to him who he is. He's like, oh, yeah, right,
and who's the president? And he's like, oh, Ronald Reagan's

(01:09:16):
like the actor. Oh give me break. Can you know
who's the first lady? Jane Wyman? You talk about his
first for you know, his Ronald Reagan's first wife and stuff,
and starts bringing up other actors in different positions and stuff,
and so I thought it was really funny.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Payoff for that was awesome when he shows up the
video recorder and he's like, no, wonder why your president
is an actor?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Yeah, that was a very nice tie into you know, well,
did you did you guys starting up?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Did you guys get the fore shadow to the Ronald
Reagan when he shows up in nineteen fifty five, there's
a poster bill as he walks by the way theater
for a movie with Barbara Stanwick and Ronald Reagan. And
I just thought that that was a nice little foreshadow
that you know, they were able to go back and
grab a film from from when Reagan was an act.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
But it helps, Yeah, it helps reinforce that whole conversation too,
because if you're paying attention, you see that, you know,
because maybe not everybody's watching this is going to know
that Ronald Reagan's wasn't you know, it was originally an actor.
They just only know him as the President of the
United States or whatever. So yeah, they did a nice
job tying those little things in and and and then
once Doc realizes, you know, explains to him how he

(01:10:26):
discovered the fux capacitor, then he's like, oh, this dude's
on the level, you know, and he starts to explain
the things that are going on, and you can just
seems like, oh, great, Scott, like this everything's just coming
unraveled these you know, so we've got to fix this
and just them you know, spitball and how they're gonna,
you know, save Marty's parents, how they're going to figure
out how to get the dolore and juiced up to

(01:10:48):
get him back and all this stuff, and you know,
it's just it's a it's a fun few, you know,
little time period there where they're kind of doing all
this stuff. So it's it's a lot of fun. I mean,
I enjoyed that. You know, he brings out, you know,
he's like, here's how we're gonna do it. He brings
that mids like, I'm sorry, I didn't have time to
get a completely you know, scale accurate. You know, he's
got that old town or whatever out there that's gonna

(01:11:09):
show him how the Dolorian is gonna go, which I
guess is actually was the scale model they used when
they were pitching the movie or whatever. But you know,
and he's got the little wind up car and it
takes off and sparks and sets stuff on fire, which
makes you wonder, like I wonder if this is how
Doc's house is burned down.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
It's just like this, So I thought that was super cool.
That scene was super cool too, especially when you're looking
at it, You're just like, that's exactly the freaking town.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
Man. How are you gonna ask for an apology?

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Be it that it's not the scale or painted like
I think I think, Uh, Marty McFly is looking at
it and being like, uh.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Yeah, it's all good, bro, don't worry. It's good enough
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Well, it's it's funny because that's kind of a running
trope gag through one and three, you know, because he
makes the scale Mom Battel of the of the town
of Hill Valley in eighteen eighty five, and it's like
he says the same thing to mariw you know, part
of the rudimentary scale is I didn't have enough time
to you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
No, it's it's a good scale.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
That's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
It kind of makes sense to if he's like a
like a legit try to be a legit scientist and stuff.
You know, everything's got to be measured perfectly and all that.
But it's still funny as hell.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yeah, you know. And another thing I wanted to point
out kind of the difference between nineteen fifty five and
nineteen eighty five. So Marty, you know, when he goes
to the cat the diner, he grabs the address for
Doc Brown's place out of the telephone book. And when
he's when he's talking to his grandparents at Lorraine's house,
he asks where this particular addresses, which I think like

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ten twenty five Riverside, and he goes, you know, and
he's talking to him and they said, well, Maple, is
you know, after Riverside is right after Maple and he's like,
oh no, no, it's it's John F. Kennedy Avenue and yeah,
drive and they're like, well, who's John F. Kennedy. I'm like, oh, yeah,
because he hasn't yet John F. Kennedy. Yeah, they don't

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know who John F.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
I don't think that's right though, because I think at
that point John F. Kennedy should be at least a
prominent senator or something. I mean, well, you know, I
guess it's not like today where I guess they can
flip on the TV watch c SPAN. You know, obviously,
you know, the TV's pretty primitive. They're just getting them
and stuff. But still he was It's not like John F.
Kennedy's like ten years old. You know, he's definitely already

(01:13:30):
in the political system and it's quite the star and
the party. But yeah, he wasn't right, I wasn't in
fifty five, so I can't exactly tell you where there
was at. But yeah, yeah, I think he was a senator,
so he should have probably known who he was.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I'm gonna say his name probably wasn't on everybody's lips
like it was for like LB LG. Dwight D. Eisenhower,
you know, or Harry Truman because you know they were
the president at the time, right.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
Well too, I mean, you take a poll of.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
The people in this United States and most of them
can't tell you who.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
The vice president is in most cases.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
So you know, yeah, but you're talking about nineteen fifty five.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Everybody back then, they're watching the five o'clock news, and
even before that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
They're reading the paper every day. Yeah, religiousness.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
So they were a much more informed, you know, a
group of individuals. And the downside to that, though, is
that their news is you know, often a week or
so old when they're getting it through the newspapers and
things like that. But you know, let's it's come across
the wire as major news. But yeah, I would think
for the radio, yeah, or the reader. But I'm thinking

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they're probably better read. I mean, since since you know,
World War two on up, they you know, they were
very well read and they knew what was going on.
And the Shenangans weren't there like they are today. You know,
they were reporting on politics what was happening, but it
wasn't like the crazy politics we have today. It was
those groups were still working together, they were working towards
common goal. They were not having these crazy grand standing

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things that we see today. I mean, you know, those people,
they were they were respected. Politicians for the most part,
were respected and you know, people were interested in what
they were doing because it affected their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Right right, good point on that. Yeah, and then uh,
you know, to go from politics to a little more
sci fi things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
So sorry, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:15:33):
All right, it's all right'vant it's yeah, it's it's it's
all part of of you know, nineteen a decent amount
of little, you know, snippets and clips of political things,
be it from.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
The the the news, whether the newspaper. I think there's
a couple of things in there, the news casting like
the TV show, the campaign ads in the where the
cars driving around town and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
So yeah, right, yeah, yeah, it all it all flows together.
So but Marty has this idea to get his dad
to ask the rain out, and of course this is
where we get the really cool I would say, cameo

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of the great Edward van Halean song. And I thought
it was funny that, you know, he's he sneaks into
his dad's bedroom, he's wearing the radiation suit he pretends
to be Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan, and he's

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got the his headphones hooked up to his dad and
he plays the the cassette tape. And I always wondered,
why does it say Edward van Halen on the tape?
And it wasn't until about maybe six seven months ago
when I was watching they're listening to the audio commentary
on this and the only the whole reason why they
had Edward van Halen on it is because they couldn't

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get rights to any of the van Halen songs. So
they went out and they talked to Edward van Halen
and they said, hey, can you like make something for
the movie and he they recorded him just playing his
guitar in a sound studio and they're like, yeah, so
you can't use van Halen, but we're gonna put the
word Edward van Halen on the on the tape. And
if you ever noticed it, like the word Edward is
just kind of just off to the side, just a

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little bit. Well, there's I just thought that was a hilarious,
little little inside joke.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
There actually is a little more to that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
So van Halen as a group had a rule we
don't play outside of Van Halen. So the part of
the reason is they wanted to use the Van Halen
song and they're like no, So Eddie's like, well, I
want to do this. So he went in and he
snuck in and recorded that and didn't tell the band
members for a couple of years. He did the same
thing when he did the the solo for Thriller. They

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didn't know it was him until he had to come
in and do the video and they had to fess
up because they wanted to come in and do that
video and he went in and did his little thing.
But yeah, so he recorded that secret too. So Eddie
would do things outside of it and his brother Alex
would be furious Beau. He's like, look, we don't do
Van Allen outside of Van Aalen. So that's where that
stems from as well. But now I have a question
for you, Matt. So the we we see in two

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places sci fi books and what them is a comic book.
So is the comic book that we see is that
a legit comic from back then? Because it looks a
lot like the ones from the same people. I think
it was an e CC comic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
They made it look like comics, like sci fi comic
book cover, but clearly it was made for the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Yeah, yeah, they made They made up the title sci
Fi Fantasy because they were trying to rip off the class.
Like Joey said, you know, ec, they were trying to
get the weird science and the uh I can't think
there was another one that they'd made. Weird Fantasy was weird, yes,
so they were trying to like go with that, but

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not blatantly making an.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
ECA recently released or not so recently released h an
action figure of Marty McFly in the the hazmat suit,
the radiation suit, and that that's the that's the cover
is the fake comic book. So like you you see
the figure.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I do also like when he's wearing that space suit
and he stopped to me, he pulls the hair dryer out,
he goes to turn it on and it's just cherry red.
I don't know any hair dryer that's coming out cherry
red like that. I thought that was a nice little
touch too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Yeah, it was. It was definitely a fun little throwback,
and you know, I thought it was rather neat that,
you know, they picked the DeLorean and like you said
on the cover of that sci fi fantasy comic book
The Spaceship looked very much like the front end of
the delre that was. That was kind of a neat
little wink and nod.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
That's just another one of those like perfect tie ins
that they do. You know, they just they It's just
such a well thought out movie and every little detail
that they did just helps build and reinforce the movie
as a whole.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Yeah, so of course, you know, he convinces George that
he needs to talk to Lorraine, and and George the
next morning runs into finds Marty and and tells him everything,
and he's like, you know, Darth Vader is gonna melt
my brain if I don't talk to uh Lorraine. And
then we get this really cool interaction in the diner,

(01:20:38):
and that's where you know, Biff steps in and Marty
uh basically becomes a hero here just kind of save
his dad, and unfortunately he has an adverse reaction with
with what he's trying to achieve with George and Lorraine.
But what did you guys think of of the interaction

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between Marty and Bill and and the whole heroic moment.
I'll go with you first, Joey, I mean, what did
you think of of that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Are we We're not We're not at the the fucking
car yet, are we?

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
The manure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
Yeah, the secrets where he gets the skateboard from the
kid and on it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Impresses the whole town.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
George there there there plan going a foul.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
We're talking about the diner sequence. Yeah, yeah, he trips,
trips Biff up and he goes, hey, what's that and
then slugs him And that's of course the only scene
that you see Eric Stults.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Oh we do. Actually, how do we see Eric Stults
in the diner?

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Because they never shot they never shot the scene where
he hits so they ended up using the cut with
Eric Stolt's hitting Biff, But it's like the back of
his head, so it's like a split second. You just
see the back of Eric Stolt's head as he hits
Biff and then takes off running.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Or could have been an Eric Stolt STUNTMANO okay, yeah, yeah.
The invention of the skateboard is is a lot of fun.
We get to see a gag that we're gonna see
repeated in the second movie where like Biff stands up
and he realizes he's taller than he realized. We see

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that with Griff in the second movie, and maybe maybe
we see something similar with that with mad Dog Tannon
the third. Yeah, oh god, that's it's probably it's probably
that actress best performance that and and alternate eighteen eighty five.

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Biff was pretty good too. He got kind of like
after middle age. We got to see him in a
few more movies, but I feel like we really should
have seen him a whole lot more. This is a
great chase sequence. I wasn't. You know, you don't really

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know what to expect in this movie. It's the first
time you're watching it, so everything's kind of clever and everything.
Everything's fun. You know, if you're a little kid watching this.
She's like, hey, kid, can I borrow this? And you know,
he pulls the top off it and turns into a skateboard,
and he's like wow, you know, after our shenanigans and

(01:23:40):
our fun with manure, you know, he gives the kid
his skateboard back. So it's like, it's all you could
tell that, I said. A movie produced by Steven Spielberg,
and he probably was kind of pushing for certain scenes
to be in the movie because he always likes to
have this all and wonder.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Right, and and of course he he does over or
underlay that that that score as well, because you could
like that heroic score as he's he's you know, doing
all the cool tricks with the skateboard and impressing the
town and basically putting Biff in a spot where he
can't get out of getting shipped on. See what I

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did there?

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
I did?

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
By the way, Hot Wheels has released uh Biff's car
complete with done what Uh? Yeah, I'm not kidding. You
can go to Walmart like right now and there's it's
not selling well and there's plastic ship all over top
Offf's car. I don't remember the model, but they they
say the model on the car.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
You know what? I did hear something about that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
I heard it was on the news and they said
that the sales numbers turned out to be pretty shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah, I imagine they are. They They've they've gone all out.
There's weird things, like they'll be like a police car
and it would say like from the crow and I'm like,
it's just a boxy like early nineteen nineties, late nineteen
eighties police car. There's nothing cool about it. But then again,
they they're doing other movies where it's like, hey, it's like,

(01:25:13):
here's the Mutt cuts truck from a van from Dumb
and Dumber And so I bought two of those, one
to open and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
An I gonna ask a stupid question I wasn't asked
super questions, say why why are they releasing this car now?
But it's because the fortieth anniversary. Yeah, I thought they
would have done it like ten years ago when it
was thirty, because it would have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
To be fair all three versions of the DeLorean or
have been showing up too.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Now, of course you know now's the time, because I
mean fortieth anniversary was what June June twenty sixth or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
So yeah, i'd have to say, for anything in this
movie that might look like it's a little dated, the
score isn't one of them. Alan Silvestro, you just fucking
knocked it out of the park, and everybody who hears
it like you could have not even seen the movie,
and I think, you know all that's back in the future.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's very impressive, and that along with the soundtrack.

Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
I thought this sound I mean, I don't know I've.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
Got I've got a soft spot in my heart for
Huey Lewis in The news Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Well, then there's the fifty Sounds too. We could hear
the sand Man, yep, give me a Dream? What what
other movies is famous for that? And it was it
was before nineteen eighty five?

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
Was it to Kill a Mockingbird?

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Halloween? I don't know why they put that too mucheen,
but it's a Halloween. We've pulled too much from that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Well, Matthew, all right, all right, all right, that'll probably
be my last reference to Kill a mocking You.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
Know what in the scene that I did think was
really cool was the amount of times when Lorraine is
just like I mean, I guess kind of makes sense
with the whole Sandman song in the track, but how
many times she goes, oh, isn't he a dream?

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
Oh isn't he a dream?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
He's just breathfast like creambow.

Speaker 6 (01:27:13):
Yeah. That's nasty, bro, that's nasty.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Well it doesn't even Marty even mentions when he when
he wakes up in the in his mom's bed, that
I had a terrible dream. So yeah, there's definitely some
some references in there.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
To dreams and you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
I'm sure there's probably a whole psychological thing we could
we could talk about with this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Trying to outdo the implied incests from Empire strikes back.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
He even at the end of the movie, when he
wakes up the night or the morning after he got
back to nineteen eighty five, he even says, oh, man,
I had a terrible dream, and then he sees where
he's at and what his reality is is. This is crazy, man,
This is just a total mind you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Yeah, I called that my early twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Well, how about you, Tim, Any any thoughts on Marty
putting Biff in his place?

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
I mean we've covered a lot of it. I mean,
the two things that strike me and this is one.
This is where Michael J. Fox's lack of height really works.
Like when he gets up and he has to look
over Biff's shoulder kind of just see his head to
realize how Shorty is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
It's a priceless shot. I mean it's just priceless.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
And anybody else that had been more on level with Biff,
it just wouldn't have had that same effects. So I
think it really, you know, it really brings home the
the bowliness of the Biff character just being this monstrous
mountain of a guy, you know, so and then I
just for him to hit him and then run out
the door like that. Push those guys over, you know,

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get that basically that kid's homemade scooter or busted off
you know, do the skateboard and thing. It's just it's cool,
it's iconic. We you know, it's one of our favorite scenes.
But the bottom line at the end of that, what
I really take away from it is if you only
pay three hundred dollars you get people to take that
much crap out of your car, you got to bargain,
because I'm telling you what, I am cleaning that much
shit out of anybody's car for three hundred dollars, not

(01:29:19):
a chance in the hell. So uh, you know, just
but that and when you see that, I mean they
didn't just dump a little bit of manure on those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
They are covered in that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I mean they are literally like digging their way out
and spitting it out of their mouth. It's like, when
you really think about it, it's absolutely disgusting, almost to
the point of just like gagging you if you really
think about it. Yeah, I mean Yeah, they are literally
sitting in a mountain of shit. It's just you know,
it's it's wow. I mean, I couldn't even imagine if

(01:29:52):
that happened to me. It would just be like, oh
my god.

Speaker 5 (01:29:54):
How about those sparks when he throws down the skateboard,
when he when he tips it back, you know, when
he's driving around, when he's on the h on the
back of the cars.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, I think it's because if you look at it
and I remember this, Okay, this, God.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
This is going to really show how old I am.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Back when I was a kid, before you buy skates
to actually put on your feet, like you know, you
go buy a pair of skates and you put, you know,
put your foot in it, lace them up. When I
was a kid, we had these skates that were metal
that you put your shoe in and then you had
a key and you crank it down and these little
things would come down and grab each side of the skate.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
And they were actually probably.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Super really from before my time. You know, they were
like remnants that I probably got from a custard or something.
But uh yeah, so they had metal wheels on them.
So that's if you look underneath these kids little scooters.
They've they're basically taken a flatboard. They've taken these skates
apart and they've mounted them underneath there, and that's part
of what's sparking, you know, on there. Plus they made

(01:30:57):
the little brake pad that probably wouldn't normally be under there,
just so that the skateboard would function correctly, and it's
probably gotten nails sticking out of it. But yeah, it's
because those are those metal skates that you clamp onto
your shoe, and they had for whatever reason, metal wheels
on them. So that's why we're getting a little smart. Yeah,
it's no no for sure, and that that definitely is

(01:31:19):
probably you know, era accurate, so I yeah, but it
made for a cool effect. Besides, so there you go, kids,
there's there's a little lesson for you. And now the
toys used to be made back in the fifties when
even I wasn't around yet.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
You know what, Tim, you have a brand new pair
of roller skates and I've got a brand new key.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
You're such a.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Uh yeah, go look that up. Kids. Anyway, so you know,
Lorraine's impressed by by Biff getting getting knocked over by
h Marty and you know, poor George is just left,
you know, holding the notepad that says that he's Lorraine's destiny.
He kind of SLINKs away. Yeah, but then you know,

(01:32:14):
Lorraine uh manages to follow Marty back to Doc Brown's
house and you know, they're they're they're hanging out in
the garage, and that's when Lorraine shows up and said,
ask Marty to the school dance. Well to that's when Mary.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
Actually asked him to ask her.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
True true, Yeah, I mean it is the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Yeah, so his mom was right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
She's like, here's his mom was right, And I never
asked the boy out to the desk, but I'd ask
him to ask me to go to the dance.

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
My day. There wasn't any girls chasing guys like bro.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
He just stalked him home. If there if there have
been a tree outside that house, that's where you have
found her, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
So Marty then is asked to ask Lorraine to the
school dance, and of course that's when he he plots
to feign inappropriate advances on her, allowing George to intervene
and rescue her. But the plan goes awry when this
gang locks Marty into the trunk of the performing van's

(01:33:28):
car while Biff forces himself onto Lorraine. George, of course,
arrives expecting to find Marty, but is assaulted by Biff.
After Biff hurts Lorraine and engaged George and enraged, George
knocks him unconscious and escorts the grateful Lorraine to the dance.
All Right, So, I I think it's it's kind of

(01:33:52):
funny that Marty comes up with this plan, and it's
it's really interesting that he sees his mom for who
she truly is as a teenage girl. She's sneaking alcohol,
she's smoking, she's trying to be cool by impressing this.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Cool boy, which leads more, yeah to what you guys
were saying earlier about her deliberately changing in front of
that freaking window.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
Man exactly, you know, And that that brings me this question, is,
you know, is Lorraine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
A really a good girl or is she really.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Kind of a you know, or she was trying to be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Could be tim Any any thoughts on the Rain's character?

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Yeah, I mean, this is a girl that's you know,
she's getting ready to graduate high school and is uh,
you know, going to go off to college and find
herself I think she's she's in that stage of life
a little bit, so uh yeah, she's she's definitely interested in, uh,
expanding her horizons. And she's, you know, step fast that

(01:35:16):
Marty's going to be the one that she does it
with until she kisses him for the first time, and
then she's kind of like this is this isn't right.
Something's wrong. Yeah, something's really wrong. She's like, you guys,
like kissing my brother? Do you do you know what
I'm saying. He's like, oh, yes, I understand what you're saying.
It because I'm gonna have a lot of therapy you're
gonna pay for in the future.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
But he's like, he's like, yeah, I don't know, like
kissing your brother, it's like kissing your fucking mob dude.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Yeah? And then and then following that up, I mean,
you know, what do we get next? We get the
car door open and he's expecting George and who does
he get?

Speaker 6 (01:35:55):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
But you know, the mountainous biff and pulls him out
of there, and it's going to cause some problem.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
And we see George mc fly.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
You know, he was in there doing a little dancing
and stuff, which I thought was kind of interesting. It's
definitely a throwback to like the Jerry Lee Lewis like
Professor Kelp a little bit. But here's why I got
a theory now. So I want to share this because
I find it interesting that George goes out there to
the car, he confronts and knock Spiff out right like

(01:36:24):
this seems completely not in character right now, So I
have a theory. Does anybody else have a theory on
why he may have done this outside of just you know,
want the girl?

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
So you went robotic on us there?

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Oh sorry, So I said, uh, do any of you
guys before I before I lay my theory on you,
do any of you guys have a little theory as
to why you think George's character has changed so dramatically
and you know with his regard to dealing with why
did he all of a sudden this is the point
where he musters up the courage to take you to

(01:37:00):
punch Biff and save the girl.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Well, I I have a little bit of a theory.
I have a a doctor who theory and then I
have a psychological theory. But I want to hear your
theory first. Okay, before I give you either one of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
And I think this is is I don't know if
this is really really well thought out by the writers
or whether this is just dumb luck. But we gotta
we gotta kind of jump into the movie. So let's
go to two. What do we see because they reproduce
that whole dance, right, it's Biff doing it the dance.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
He's drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
But what's he doing to punch at the dance?

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Oh, he's spiking it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
He spikes that spikes it a lot. So I think
George is drunk, man. I think he gets George liquid courage,
gets some a little liquid courage, and George goes out there.
He's like, you know what, screw this guy. I've put
up with his ship. I'm gonna get the girl. And
Biff has ultimately led to his own downfall by liquering

(01:38:07):
this guy up. And this guy punches his day.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Clean ad.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
That punch was ten out of ten, dude, that knockout.

Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Man. That was good.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
Not only did it feel good in the moment, like
the stars were aligned, the situation was perfect, but that
actual punch though, Man, God, Lee, that was that was
some Muhammad Ali would be proud of.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
All Right, Yeah, I completely concur with that, you know,
and I and I think what lends even a little
more credence to this theory is that later on somebody
tries to, you know, get between him and Lorraine again
at the dance, and George kind of starts to walk away,
and I wonder if maybe, you know, the buzz is

(01:38:58):
coming down off the buzz, you know, finally changed his
mind the last minute, but it would all make sense now. Again,
I don't know if this is some brilliant writing or
just some half baked idea, but it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Very plausible to me.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
What do you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
But we don't find out that he spikes a punch
until the second movie.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
No, no, you don't you know?

Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Then then then they didn't write it that way. But
I mean, it's it's any movies open to interpretation. But essentially,
I think he just he saw that he was more
worried about her well being than his own, and that
helped him overcome his own fear of Biff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
I don't know, man, that that's actually.

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
But he was drinking that punch. You saw him before
he went out to the car. He was sitting there
right near the table drinking his punch looking at the clock.
So that I think that makes a lot of sense
to I do not to mention what Joey said. I
think there's always there's already motivation there. You know, there's

(01:40:07):
already motivation there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
It's a really dark scene in the movie because I
mean a Biff was essentially going to rape her.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Yeah. Yes, it does take a very dark turn for sure,
especially because they linger on and he's like just walk away,
and he's like even his guys, he's like me, this
is the peep show, you know, take off or whatever.
So it's like they really kind of stretch it out
to an uncomfortable you know level.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Yeah he was. He was literally fighting to get upper dress.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a privacy to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
So my two theories are this. The first one is
the psychological theory that I have is that so George
has witnessed his now friend Marty stand up to Biff.
You know, he shows that hey, you know, Biff can't
be stood up to. He he kind of builds up
George's confidence subconsciously, and then once George, who's afraid of confrontation,

(01:41:06):
finally gets that last straw, you know, here there he
is he sees Lorraine, a girl that he likes, he's
been a girl that he's been, you know, peep and
Tom too. Uh, in a situation where she's being attacked.
It's finally the last straw, and he builds up this
courage to knock out Biff. Whether that that's liquid courage

(01:41:27):
from as we find out in part two, Like like
Tim had said, but I think at the core of it,
once he sees that Marty is somebody that could stand
up somebody who's much smaller, smaller than Biff, stand up
to him, he knows that, hey, you know what, if
if Marty can do it, I can do it. The
other thought that I had, and it dives into that

(01:41:48):
classic TV series Doctor Who that talks about time travel
and all this like Gobblygook stuff, is that time will
find a way to correct itself. And because it is
pivotal that time proceeds in this certain way that George
and Lorraine get together, that it's kind of time and
Destiny's idea to bring these two together as though it

(01:42:12):
was their density.

Speaker 5 (01:42:13):
I mean, all that makes sense, man, That all makes
I could buy all those ideas, although you know, man,
I like the one that Tim said, although the psychology
one that you said totally makes sense too. I mean
I deal with that type of stuff on a daily basis.
You know, as soon as one person gets away with something,
everyone else is like, I could probably do that too.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
You know, your theory is kind of your your second
doctor Huish theory is kind of interesting because Stephen King
writes a book. It's called eleven twenty seven sixty three.
It's about a guy who goes back and tries to
prevent the assassination of John F. Kennedy and okay, during
this book, it all attempts. He's his one observation is

(01:42:57):
that time is obstinate, wants to maintain its integrity, and
it'll do anything it can to make sure that you
don't alter it. It'll do okay, it'll make your car breakdown,
it'll you know, it'll make you sick, you'll get shot
or mugged in an invertent time like if you were
time traveler kind of thing trying to change things. So
uh so, yeah, you're kind of your theory of you know,

(01:43:20):
time wanting to correct itself to make sure things go
back to the way that they should be is kind
of on part with that train of thought. You know,
it's it's it's definitely makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Nice. Nice, Yeah, And you know what, I think part
of me wants to say that there was a Twilight
like the New Twilight Zone, where a similar thing happened,
where reporter traveled in time and it was trying to
prevent John F. Kennedy's assassination, and that reporter was played
by Lane Smith from the classic TV series Lois and Clark,

(01:43:55):
with Dean Kane.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
For Whitaker or Jordan Peel for wit Okay, yeah, it
was like those motherfuckers.

Speaker 4 (01:44:06):
Yeah, and I like for I.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Just I think it came and went and I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
It was before it was in that time before DVRs
or before everyone had one, so I didn't get to
watch the Ford Whittaker Twilight Zone series. I don't even
have an opinion on it. I know the Jordan Peele
ones kinda they kind of sucked, And I don't blame
blame them for taking the money and hosting it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
Right, I'm just doing a quick check here. I'm pretty
sure it was Twilight Zone. Why do I not see it? Outer?

Speaker 9 (01:44:46):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
No, what it wasn't It wasn't Twile Zone. It was
The Outer Limits from nineteen ninety five to two thousand
and two.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
So what what's the name of that song?

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
Hold on second here?

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
I might have it on my DVO because I got
a backlog of like eighteen episodes of nineteen nineties Outer Limits.

Speaker 11 (01:45:04):
Let's see nineteen ninety Doctor Malcolm Bosard one episode from
nineteen ninety eight season two, episode one, A Stitch in Time.

(01:45:28):
These seventeen men have been executed in the last two decades.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
But without clear motive. Is that the right one?

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
I don't think so. I don't think it's about time travel.

Speaker 4 (01:45:37):
Yeah, it's about time travel because he goes back to
to try and save.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
John F.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Kennedy, And I remember distinctly that he was like on
the plane. He was on Air Force one after the
incident occurred, and he drops a nickel or no, he
drops a quarter, no fifty piece. They had John F.
Kennedy on that on the Twitty sent police and people
were like, what is that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I'm looking at the AI overviews. That's how we know
we're in the future. The Outer Limits, both the original
and nineteen nineties revival have explored time travel narratives, but
neither directly focused on JFK's assassination in the same way
as Stephen King's eleven twenty two sixty three. One episode,
Profile and Silver involved time travel and the assassin and

(01:46:27):
the assassination, but focused on historians' personal involvement and the
consequences of all altering the timeline. Another episode, Decompression, dealt
with the time traveler trying to prevent a future catastrophe
by altering a seemingly insignificant event but not related to JFK.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Okay, well, again, this was the nineties and I'm old,
so my brain probably is stitching things together.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
One was had to do with an assassination. Oh, it
was feature History of travels back to witness the JFK assassination.
That's Profile in Silver. That's from the nineteen nineties. Well,
and then the Decompression has to do with a time
traveler creating a dark future and attempts to prevent it
by having the protagonists jump from a plane before it crashes. Okay,

(01:47:17):
so Profile in Silver is what we need to watch.
So it does have something to do JFK assassination. And
sometimes yes, AI kind of fumbles itself. It's saying two
different things. In two different paragraphs.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
Here we go, Okay, Twilight we've gone off the rails. Here,
we're going on a tangent. I'm probably gonna cut a
lot of this out. But Profile and Silver slash button
button the Twilight Zone in March seventh, nineteen eighty six,
Profile in Silver, after preventing the assassination of President Kennedy,
a historian from the future faces the consequences of this act.

(01:47:53):
That's the one I'm thinking of. It stars Lane Smith
as Professor Joseph Fitzgerald.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Okay, so AI pulled shitty information from other people's articles
and then respect spouted it out as fact. So yeah,
so they got Profile and Silver correct. But it was
the nineteen eighties Twilight Zone, which is fucking awesome. Oh shit,
it's got the debt, right, I kind of remember this

(01:48:19):
the guy they got the guy from Stepfather playing j
John F. Kennedy Andrew Robinson. Awesome, who.

Speaker 4 (01:48:32):
Rick should know as a famous Kardassian. Andrew Robinson, Rick,
are you there?

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Leaving me hanging goll doct Actually no, Andrew Robinson.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Nine, My bad. He's not the Stepfather, He's he's the
he's the dad from hell Raiser.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
One yes, but he was also a famous Kardashian.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Kardashian Cardassian Cardassian.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
He was a tailor.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
He was with doctor Oh yeah, That'srek Kardashians.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
You know that. You know the guy's name.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Garrick.

Speaker 6 (01:49:22):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:49:24):
I'm like, no, no, not not not to cot the
other guy. All right, so we've we've we've gone down
a rabbit hole. We went through time travel, we went
all over the place, and now we went to the
twenty fourth century with Star Trek. Let's get back to
the future. Sure, Marty McFly so, yes, Uh so Marty's

(01:49:46):
locked in the trunk and George is being held by Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Have you guys ever in the trunk of a car?

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Yes, oddly enough, I have.

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
It was a thing in the thankfully.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
Thankfully after I want to say, nineteen eighty five, maybe
in nineteen eighty six, there is like a safety lever
that you can pull to open a trunk so you
don't get locked.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Into I volunteered because there there were ladies and I
was like, well, you know, we're there's no room in
this car. We all want to go to this house party,
you know, off campus. I'll you know what, I'll just
ride in the trunk and so they took the bumpiest
way there for fun.

Speaker 6 (01:50:33):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
Well, I I was gonna say, you, you've done a
lot of stupid stuff for girls.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I don't even remember who the fuck that I was
with going to the party. I just remember the assholes saying,
let's take full advantage of this situation and uh take
the long way to the party. I thought. I was
just like, I thought this was five minutes away. They're
like driving on the block.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Yeah, you know the part of that, thankfully, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
I was gonna say, the part of that scene that
I thought was jarring was the racial slur that they
threw out there.

Speaker 6 (01:51:12):
Man, Like, I.

Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
Don't even I don't know, man, every single time I
watched that, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
I don't remember. I don't think they said the N word.
I think they they they.

Speaker 6 (01:51:25):
Say something else they said.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
I don't even want to say it, man, they said
the S word rhymes with the S word pookcial.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
That's like they called him a spook. Yeah, that is
old time. That is really old timing now, I think.
I mean, there's an Anthony Hopkins movie where he's wrongly
accused of uh referring to an absence student with a

(01:52:04):
racial slur, but he actually didn't know like the race
of the absent student because they never came to class.
And he's he said, now I'm questioning whether they're real
or are they a spook as in a ghost and uh,
and he gets fired because he finds out like the
classmates are like, oh, he was referring to the black

(01:52:26):
student as a spook, when in fact he didn't. He
didn't mean that at all. So that over time, certain
racial slurs like people don't know even know what the
fuck they mean. Katha isn't that one from Lethal Weapon two?

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Well that's that's yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I completely fucked that up. And like even though like
at the end the joke is they they they shoot
the racist asshole and they said, now he's become decaffeinated, right,
But it didn't really make sense to me, and I
thought it was I don't know, I thought I had
something to do with being Catholic because it had that
cast sound in it, but no, it was like, gotcha

(01:53:07):
some origin that I'm completely ignorant of because I never
lived in South Africa under apartheid, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
All right, Well, anyway, so Marty's you know, locked in
the in the trunk, and as we know now and
after nineteen eighty five, you can basically get out of
a trunk easily, but not in nineteen fifty five. So
the band has to free Marty from their car, but
the lead guitarist injures his hand in the process. So Marty,
after running to go check on his dad mom, discovers
that you know, George has knocked out Biff and basically

(01:53:40):
has rescued Lorraine. So he goes to the dance with Lorraine,
and Marty then has to take the place of the
guitar player because his hand is hurt, so he performs
Earth Angel so that George and Lorraine can share their
first kiss. With this, he manages to secure his destiny

(01:54:05):
and he's able to prevent his brother and his sister
from fading in the picture. And there was that really
cool uh scene where he's you know, playing guitar and
you can see that he's forgotten to play guitar and
he's just like he's all down and everything. And and
as uh Tim pointed out, there's that that that redheaded

(01:54:25):
kid that shows up and you know, cuts in front
of George and and you know, takes Lorraine and and
and dances with him, and of course that's again a
point where you know, George is now acting out a
character and he's like he's got the confidence and he
goes over there and he grabs tells a guy, no,
I'm taking this dance, and he he just kisses Lorraine

(01:54:47):
and like instantly, Marty is resurrected and you can see
the photograph as the timeline is now set back into
its proper position. What did you guys think of that
whole sequence of the guitar playing by Marty and and
feel free to elaborate upon Johnny be Good as well,
I'll go over you first him.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
I really like that scene.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
I mean absolutely because I'm a guitar player, but I'd
liked the idea that he goes up on stage to
play the song with the band starts playing very simply,
and it gets to the point where the picture is
almost empty and the hand starts, you know, basically becoming
you know, transparent, and that's why you start to hear

(01:55:32):
him like miss the chords and he can't play. It's
not really a matter that he's tired, it's just that
he doesn't have the physical form anymore. He can't press
the strings. You know, he's starting to basically, you know,
leave this plane of existence for the most part. And
and that's the point where we get George, who for
a couple of seconds starts to walk away from the

(01:55:54):
situation when the you know, when the other guy comes
up and basically is like, I'm cutting and you know,
and you got Lorraine, who's pleading with him. She's like George, George,
and he finally turns around for whatever reason, he's like,
you know, no, I have knocked if out, you know,
buzz or not if that's the case, if we're going
to ever going with that theory, uh, you know. He

(01:56:15):
he's like, nope, you get the hell away from her.
She's mine, and he kisses her and that instantly, once
that kiss happens, it seals the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
It fixes the.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Timeline, and you know, they're you know, they're obviously going
to get married now in the future and have the
family and instantly revives Marty and allows him to play.
And then I just love Once that happens and he
realizes everything's good, the song's done. He's getting ready to
leave it, like, hey, come on, like one more, just
one more he's like, all right, he goes, this is

(01:56:46):
you know, this isn't an oldie but a good good
well well, well it's really popular from where I come from,
kind of because he realizes it's probably, you know, really
not and I just I love he just starts throwing
out all kinds of things. You know, he's just he's
on the ground playing the guitar. He's doing a hammer
and pull offs. He's just you know, cranking the amp,

(01:57:08):
kicking it over and stuff. And I like when he
finally gets towards the end and he looks and they're
all just looking at him dumbouted. I mean, absolutely dumbfout.
They have no idea. He's like, well, I guess you're
not ready for this, and my favorite fall up line
is but your kids are gonna love it. And then
he leaves, you know, so it's like the perfect ending
to that moment. It Yeah, I just I just love it.

(01:57:31):
It's fantastic. It's a lot of fun to watch, and
it's a nice wrap up of the you know, fixing
of the family timeline. So I think again it's another
point where they didn't really need to talk about it.
You get to visually see it and then once you
know that, you know that love connection is made with them,

(01:57:51):
you get to see the hand come back to you know,
to basically be him salad again, and all everybody's back
in the picture. So it's very elegant should to you know,
solve that one plot point and you know everybody understands
what just happened.

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
Right, Yeah, totally, you know. And another thing that I
always liked was after he finishes playing the playing the
very Eddie Eddie van Halen, like, you know, and he's
holding the guitar, then he hands it back to Marvin Barry.
I like how Marvin just kind of looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Like, how did you do all that with this thing?

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
Yeah, just the look on his face. I just thought
that was that was priceless. What about you, Rick, what'd
you think of of Mary's performance? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:58:36):
Man, I one hundred percent agree with everything that Tim
was saying. I mean, the not just the faces on
the audience, but even the I don't know if Tim mentioned,
but even the the the band players were looking at
him like we with this motherfucker, Like we don't even
know this dude, what the.

Speaker 6 (01:58:55):
Hell's going on here? You know?

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
The the score really supported the emotional moment that was happening.
Uh so that was really good when when that was appropriate,
it was super cool. Man like the transparent hand thing,
like Tim was saying, that's that was cool. I mean,
there wasn't a whole lot of you know that type

(01:59:22):
of special effects going on, but.

Speaker 6 (01:59:26):
Yeah, this was cool. This was a really cool kind
of piece.

Speaker 5 (01:59:33):
I mean I'm talking throughout the whole movie, but this
was one and it was pretty cool and it made
a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
They used They used the effects really effectively.

Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
Yeah and yeah, yeah it was. It was super to
the point and it wasn't like in your face. You know,
it was good. It was super good. It was the
the whole sequence of the The Enchantment under Sea Dance.

Speaker 6 (01:59:56):
Was a very very good rising act.

Speaker 5 (02:00:00):
You know, it was super good when we even after
the climax, which I would probably say the climax was
the kiss. The falling action was kind of like an
extended rising action to like get this little extra like
playful bit of this this music. You know, it could
easily have been taken out, but I think it is

(02:00:24):
more meaningful for like just the fun aspect of this movie.

Speaker 6 (02:00:29):
You know. I thought it was really cool.

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
And well if I can't interject here, swimp book. It
also kind of helps Marty's character because he's been wanting
since the beginning of the movie, he's been wanting to
play in front of an audience. You know. He he
gets rejected by the Battle of the Bands for play
because his band plays too loud. This is his opportunity

(02:00:52):
to get his heroic moment where he can now play
in front of an audience. And I thought that was
a neat little you know, tip the cap to him
or a circular time thing where you know, he's he's
able to do this and achieve.

Speaker 6 (02:01:05):
Yeah, this is cool. That is actually really cool.

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
I never thought of that because he he did audition
for their prom in eighty five, he ended up playing
in fifty five instead, So that's pretty cool, despite the
fact that he indeed was too loud. Yeah, so it
was super good sequence. And I'm sure you could probably

(02:01:28):
argue that maybe the climax isn't until he actually makes
the jump back to eighty five. But yeah, as far
as that part of the plot, I think that was
pretty much.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I think I think
that this part of the plot is definitely a climax
it would be the climax for the B story.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
I'd like a little side joke too of the when
he's holding up the phone, he's like, Chuck, you want
that new sound? Here it is man. You know, he's
folding out for Chuck Barry to hear, you know who
will eventually write the Johnny be Good song.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Well, what about you, Joey, what did you think, especially
you know, since you're the since you're the four K guy,
I'm sure you probably saw this on on four K.
What'd you think of the effects of Marty's hand? Do
they still hold up?

Speaker 6 (02:02:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
But I gotta say I own it in four K,
but I haven't watched in four K yet that that part,
even watching it on television way back then. And it's
it's an optical effect that it didn't It doesn't look
very real, but.

Speaker 6 (02:02:27):
It doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
It's okay that it looks unreal. It's a I wouldn't
say that it looks fake. It's because we're witnessing some
weird phenomenon of him disappearing and it okay, you know
what does that look like? It's like, yeah, that doesn't
bother me at all. There's there's some other scenes in
the movie where like, you know, the super imposed you know,

(02:02:52):
fire that they're standing on. You know, there's the real fire,
and then there's the fire that kind of just you know,
appears like showing up between their legs and stuff like that.
There's different things in the movie that they look like
a special effect, and we're really kind of spoiled now,
but it's still movie magic and you know, if you're
not looking for it, it still looks cool. I don't

(02:03:15):
have any rogue ripes with this movie. The lightning in particular,
anything with electricity looks fucking amazing and I love it,
so you know, it is what it is. It's like
sometimes you know, it's nice to see an old way
of achieving something, and it's okay that it doesn't look

(02:03:40):
completely real, because I mean, it's a fucking movie about
time travel, right.

Speaker 4 (02:03:48):
Right, you know, and I have to I do have
to agree with you. I mean, I think in your
long way around around about it, the effects are solid
as practical effects. And I'm not trying to put words
in your mouth, but it sounds like you do agree
that they do kind of stand up and they kind
of helped make the movie feel timeless. Am I wrong
in that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
The movie itself is a time machine because you're seeing
a different way of way movies were made. Nineteen eighty
five is now like very far in the past, and
so it it's not just nostalgia for anybody who's never
seen the movie and didn't grow up with it. It's
still showing them a world that they didn't know before

(02:04:31):
they were born, kind of like what Marty's experiencing in
nineteen fifty five. So the movie itself has become a
time capsule, which technically all movies are. It's like, you
could go, look, you know, the movie. He may not
be a real good representation of California in nineteen eighty five,
but the clothes and some things here and there in

(02:04:54):
the technology that you see that is what was available
at the time, So you know it is even though
it's not a documentary, it's still showing things that were
of the time, the cars, the close, the music.

Speaker 6 (02:05:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
That leads to an interesting question, Joey, do you think
if an eighteen year old went back right now, back
to nineteen eighty five, now we're talking forty years instead
of thirty, would it be as Jarring is going from
nineteen eighty five to nineteen fifty five.

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
They'd lose their shit because their phone wouldn't work.

Speaker 3 (02:05:33):
Well, that's true, that's true, they would. But outside of
the phone, let's just say, the phone's not even the thing. Like,
I don't feel like it would be that jarring between
the two outside of the phone.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
Well, you gotta think they wouldn't be going back to
nineteen eighty five because it's the fortieth anniversary, So they
would be going back to nineteen ninety five. That would
be thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:05:54):
Tom they I said, I said forty years instead of thirty.
I made that. I made that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
Yeah, but let's be real, if we're gonna stick with
the other movie, Okay, they're going back to five, which
doesn't seem all that long ago, does it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
No, But I'm but I don't think it would feel
that like the fifties was such a I mean, the
culture between the fifties to the eighties, I feel like
it's so significantly different than the nineties to now.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
You know, Yeah, there was a lot more.

Speaker 6 (02:06:29):
Yeah, I think they're.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
Gonna they're gonna run into the one guy. He's gonna
have a giant phone and nobody else has one. Yeah,
there's gonna be like a business guy with a fucking
brick or the bag or somebody with an older car
phone or an older bag phone, and that's it, and
they're gonna be like they did shitty cable TV. I mean,

(02:06:51):
they're gonna lose their mind.

Speaker 5 (02:06:52):
I think there definitely has been changes for each group
of Like, well, they were talking the thirty years between
eighty five, fifty five and thirty years, say, you know, twenty.

Speaker 6 (02:07:02):
Five and ninety five.

Speaker 5 (02:07:04):
I mean, yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy to think about,
but yeah, you had a lot of technological advances between
both of those thirty years. And there's definitely a strong
case for anyone who is from this time period and

(02:07:25):
they're in high school to go back to ninety five.
I would imagine it would be a culture shock for them.

Speaker 6 (02:07:34):
Like you said that.

Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
The motive in the background is the difference right there,
matter fact and ninety five.

Speaker 6 (02:07:44):
I don't even think you.

Speaker 5 (02:07:45):
I mean, yeah, ninety five motives weren't even that popular
until probably ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (02:07:52):
Oh no, no, we had ninety five. We had AOL,
we had computers mos built into it that.

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
You know, we're rock and forty four eight k MoES man.

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
There were there were kids in my high school before
we could drive, and and after that had Prodigy and
then America Online later, yeah, and I.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
Had Copy Serve and then I had America.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
There was a lot young at it, but not before
there was a young man who I don't know what
he was doing on the internet, and he he was
on for hours and hours, and his parents got a
bill for like over two hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:08:37):
Yeah, and he was on the Book Boys downloading the
Lemmings game.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
So let's let's it was over two hundred. So let's
just say it was two ten inflation calculator.

Speaker 3 (02:08:50):
Yeah, that's probably more like fift dollars now probably no,
probably interesting, it was doubles.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Let's do I'm gonna go nineteen ninety five, January nineteen
ninety five, Well, let's be fair. Well, let's go to
July July ninety Oh, it's only gonna let us do
to June. Okay, June ninety five to June twenty twenty five.
Let's put a be conservative two hundred and ten dollars,

(02:09:20):
four hundred and forty four dollars, you nail this, ok okay,
So that that's your phone bill Matt, how are you
going to talk to your son about that? You're gonna
be pretty upset. Yeah, I would if people still read newspapers,
you'd make them get a paper route.

Speaker 4 (02:09:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh, you know, and you know,
I I think I think someone going back in time,
no matter what time period, it's going to be a
significant you know, culture shock, because you know you're going
back thirty years. I do agree that the time period
between nineteen fifty five and nineteen eighty five there was
a huge advancement in industry, tree and roads and everything.

(02:10:03):
I mean, we go from steel cars to plastic cars.
You know, there's there's definitely a significant change there.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
But I think the dynamic is huge compared to it
is between eighty five to now or ninety five to now.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
Yeah, because from fifty five to eighty five, you know,
you had the whole free love and the hippies and
and and then the yuppies and the conservatives and everything.
Just yeah, there was this huge cycle that went through.
Whereas you know, the culture, like you said, from from
then to now really hasn't changed all that much. I mean,

(02:10:38):
there might more.

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
Change the way we communicate, and that's the fact that
our culture, and it's actually not our generation so much.
It's the younger generation who don't know how to interface
face to face, So that might be actually interesting, and
it would be a horrible social commentary on gen Z
for them to go back to nineteen ninety five and
not be able to fucking function.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
Right. Well, anyway, traveling back to nineteen fifty five, you know,
Marty's now no longer his future is no longer in jeopardy,
and so he hurries to the courthouse to meet Doc,
and of course Doc discovers the letter from Marty, worrying
him about his future, and he rips it up, worried

(02:11:21):
about the consequences. To save Doc, Marty recalibrates the DeLorean
to return ten minutes before he had left to the future.
The lightning strikes, sending Marty back to nineteen eighty five,
back to the future, but the DeLorean breaks down, forcing
Marty to run back to the mall. He arrives as

(02:11:42):
Doc is being shot. Now is it just me or
wasn't it like a two mile hike to get from
where the mall was at in nineteen fifty five to
downtown Hill Valley When he got there? Yeah, but still,
I don't think he could cover a two mile distance

(02:12:02):
in the time that it took the Libyans to get
there to shoot Doc at the time. This is the
only thing that kind of like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:12:13):
The assumption that they know exactly where he's at now.
I don't think they have that van lojacked. I think
that they just got lucky looking around town to find
this dude.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
I think, yeah, But I think that the bigger question
is what I think the family of guys addressed, is
why the fuck didn't he give himself more than ten minutes.
He could have went back earlier in the day. I'm
gonna go back to noon, warrened Doc that this is gonna.

Speaker 5 (02:12:42):
I think that, man, he's a stupid I mean, even
Lorraine's dad said that he was an idiot, so it
must be true.

Speaker 6 (02:12:53):
He's he's a high schooler.

Speaker 2 (02:12:55):
Yeah, comes from a family of idiots.

Speaker 5 (02:13:00):
Yeah, I mean, but they I mean brings, man, you know,
they make mistakes.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
To answer your question, Bat in nineteen eighty five, I
could have run a mile in ten minutes. That's where
you know, we'd have to run the mile every year
for Jim. I would run about halfway around, wait till
I got to the scoreboard. I would sit, I'd find
one guy to watch him go around four times, and
I get up behind him after the fourth one and
go the rest of the way around. That's how I

(02:13:30):
finished my mile.

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
So I think my fastest mile is ever like an
eight minute mile. So yeah, you're right, it would take
sixteen minutes for him to get.

Speaker 6 (02:13:39):
To the mall.

Speaker 3 (02:13:40):
Yeah, and I mean, you know, Marty's a lot of things,
but like you know, super athletic not one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
We're checking that boxes.

Speaker 3 (02:13:46):
You know, no, a have the skateboard. Now it doesn't
have the skateboard. Maybeepboard legs, you know. Yeah, yeah, I
don't think he's making it there running in two minutes,
you know the ten minutes required.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
I'll give myself twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:14:02):
But now that also lists to the question does that
damn battery keep dying? Because deloorians are just notoriously bad
for you know, knowing that they are not a great
functioning car.

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
Because this thing keeps dying.

Speaker 3 (02:14:14):
I mean, I understand it can't traverse time without the plutonium,
but damn it, the car's been running.

Speaker 2 (02:14:20):
What's with the alternator in that car?

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
It should be dying like this NonStop all the time,
and you think they might have addressed that in nineteen
fifty five, and I don't hope put another battery in
the damn thing. It just makes no sense. I know,
yes they are, but but it's not the electrical it's
usually the engine. The engines on them are shitty, you know,
but you know otherwise they're they're pretty solid car. But yeah,

(02:14:44):
the engines, they're just crap. Because I know this because
I was so close. I was going to work one
day and I pulled into the gas station to get gas,
and shit, you not, there's a Deloorian right next to me,
and holy crap. I get out and I'm looking at this.
It's got dealer plates on it. It's at the dealer

(02:15:05):
right down the street. And I was like, holy shit.
I'm like, is this thing for sale? He's like, we
just sold it, literally just sold it to a guy.
I'm put gas and he's gonna take it home. He
sold that thing for like, I think it was like
thirteen thousand dollars. I'm like, holy shit. Had he pulled
in there and just been filling up to bring it
down the lot, dude, we be we'd be broadcasting this

(02:15:26):
from my Dolorean right now. I would totally have owned
that car. Yeah, because no, because my wife. This is
my wife's favorite movie. She loves this movie above any
other movie on the planet. It's the one car I
could hands down by without even calling her. I could
just come on back. I bought a car today and
she's like, you did what It's a door and she's like,

(02:15:46):
I love you baby. That's that's how that would go.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:15:51):
I could totally not get in trouble for owning this car,
you know. But the mechanic like he's like, yeah, he goes,
these things are crap. He goes. The engines in them
are horrible. He goes, but you can pull this in
it out and put this I get like a Honda
injured or something fits right in there. He goes.

Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
Once you do that, this thing will be golden.

Speaker 6 (02:16:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
It's just like, oh red thing.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
Some guy, rich guy in town died and he had
a DeLorean and a Lamborghini couontash Should you not in
our town of all places? And I've seen that kutash
after the fact a couple of times before somebody bought
it and moved it on down the road. But I
was like, oh man, I just missed that DeLorean by
like an hour. I had no idea, and I passed
that dealership every day.

Speaker 4 (02:16:34):
Yeah, so now you have to go back and find
yourself a DeLorean and a flux to pastors and you
go back in time to.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
Build a by DeLorean.

Speaker 5 (02:16:44):
I'm mad when you said you buy your deloriate. The
one thing goes that you can go back in time.

Speaker 6 (02:16:49):
I was like, well, I.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
Do so back in the day when I was fixing
electronic circuit boards, uh we put we had ones that
went into some very gnarly places that it was in
his knee before case, which is like a case in previous.

Speaker 2 (02:17:06):
So like chemicals and nuclear bombs and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:17:09):
That is the case that the flux capacitor is in
in this movie. I took one of those home with me.
I was like, to have the case to build the
flux capacitor in my my backarage. I just need the
car to put it in.

Speaker 5 (02:17:24):
Oh my god, you got everything, bro man fucking led
rope lights in that thing.

Speaker 6 (02:17:33):
Dealrean and oh my god.

Speaker 3 (02:17:37):
Yeah. And the sad part is that when I've seen
that car park next to me. I had already had
that case at that point. I just needed to marry
the two of them together.

Speaker 4 (02:17:46):
Well, so anyway back to uh, back to Marty and Doc.
So Marty witnesses Doc being shot again and then he
sees himself take off and then the the Libyans crashing
into this cute little photo hut. And I gotta say,
I haven't seen one of those since nineteen eighty nine,
maybe nineteen ninety photo baby. Yeah, Well there's files how

(02:18:12):
chemicals and an RPG involved.

Speaker 5 (02:18:14):
Man, it's inevitable, van though, like yeah, yeah, I kind
of thought that, like like I have.

Speaker 4 (02:18:25):
Like I don't know, I you know what we did
being old in your memory cheeks and I had this
just sinct feeling that the RPG went off and I
remember it blowing up. Maybe I'm thinking of some other movie.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
The question is, did those guys just get knocked out?
I think they were on fire. I mean they're gonna
they're gonna wake.

Speaker 4 (02:18:44):
Up, Yeah, I mean you think they would wake up
and chase down doctors?

Speaker 6 (02:18:48):
What I figured the next day, No, because.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
I think it was totally off their flames.

Speaker 12 (02:18:51):
Man, Yeah, I think gone Marty's at Doc's side and
he's grieving for his loss, and of course that's when
Doc sits up, revealing he had pieced Marty's note back

(02:19:11):
together and is wearing.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
A bulletproof vest. He takes Marty home and departs to
twenty fifteen in the DeLorean. Marty wakes the next morning
to discover his father is now a confident and successful
science fiction author, his mother is fit and happy, his
siblings are successful, and Biff is a servile valet in
George's employ As Marty reunites with Jennifer, Doc suddenly reappears

(02:19:35):
in the Dolorean, insisting they return with him to the
future to save their children being from their terrible fates.

Speaker 6 (02:19:44):
So.

Speaker 4 (02:19:44):
I don't know if you guys noticed, but when Doc
shows back up that morning, did you happen to notice
the driver driving the Dolorean when it pulls in and
hits the garbage cans? It is clearly a stunt guy,
and he's wearing a Christopher Lloyd mask and his hair
does not look at all correct.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

Speaker 4 (02:20:05):
Yeah, I said, that was the one blatant thing I
noticed at the end of this movie.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
I could see them not letting an actor impact even
a simple prop as some garbage cans. I could. I
could see them They're not gonna let him do that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
Right, But what did you guys think of the changes
to the timeline that Marty.

Speaker 6 (02:20:32):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:20:32):
I thought it was cool, man, I thought it was
super cool, especially because you know, that was a very
long payoff. I mean the movie wasn't really short, especially
for back then. It was kind of a long movie.
It didn't seem long. I mean it was really flowed
really really really nicely. But that payoff was from the

(02:20:52):
first ten minutes to the last ten minutes where you
see the way that there that Marty's family lives, and
what his change is, what you know, his adventures in
nineteen fifty five yielded, and the positive net change that
happened pretty much across the board. I don't really know

(02:21:16):
if there was really any negative changes unless you're like
a Biff fan or something like that. But yeah, I
mean the house, the relationships between the siblings and the parents,
and everyone's career and even the relationship that the sister

(02:21:39):
had with.

Speaker 6 (02:21:39):
Her romantic interests.

Speaker 5 (02:21:42):
You know, was it greg Or Craig, It could have
been both, she said, or something like that, like she's
dating multiple people at the.

Speaker 6 (02:21:51):
Same time kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (02:21:52):
So it sounds I guess maybe that could be a
bad thing, but it sounds like it's sounds like, I mean,
you'd had the freaking the truck, you know what I'm saying,
that's super cool truck that he was like, Oh man,
that would be super cool. We can go camping.

Speaker 9 (02:22:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22:10):
Even the relationship that he had with his mom, his
mom like one eighty with Jennifer, you know, from I
don't like that, Hey, you're supposed to be going with
Jennifer camping. Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:22:28):
I mean it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:29):
I mean, it's just just in general, I mean, the
relationship that George had with Biff was I mean, I'm
I would probably say, a really.

Speaker 6 (02:22:41):
Good payoff, you know, a real good payoff.

Speaker 3 (02:22:43):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:22:44):
All in all, super cool, especially a little mister fusion.
Mister Fusion doc uses to power the the laureate. What
was the day of it? Mister fusion. It's a all
good man, it's all good.

Speaker 4 (02:23:02):
What about you, Joey, would you think of the finality
to this new cham.

Speaker 2 (02:23:07):
Well, it's the super happy ending and then it sets
up for you know, a new adventure. So it was
it got you excited, like it had a payoff, you
got a happy ending, but then you know, they left
the suspense for more. I liked it. I thought it

(02:23:29):
was real interesting that you know, he's you know, I
think it was his father's advice that which I think
was set to him off camera, and then he gives
that to his own advice from his father to his
father in nineteen fifty five, and then he hears it
repeated back to him in alternate nineteen eighty five, not
the good, the positive alternate nineteen eighty five, right where

(02:23:50):
he's he's telling him, you know, if you put your
mind to it, you could do anything.

Speaker 4 (02:23:54):
Yeah, it was. It was definitely the positive, happy ending
that you're looking for and in a great film. Tim,
any any final thoughts on the endy of the movie.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
Yeah, I mean, I think a relation to your question,
there had to be changes because you can't you can't
interfere that much in the past and not expected there
to be changes. But it's a solid reflection upon you know,
his upbringing, like he had, you know, a positive upbringing,
he had a positive outlook on the way he wanted

(02:24:25):
his life to be and what he wanted his parents
life to be, and he inadvertently made that come to fruition.
So it wasn't anything that Marty purposely did. I mean,
he's just trying to, you know, fix the things that
he accidentally screwed up along the way. But in doing so,
he fixed not only his life but his entire families,
you know, so it turned out really good for him.

(02:24:48):
The one thing I focused on, you know, having seen
this movie so many times, was at the beginning when
Doc has introduced, I really watched like his clothes and stuff,
and I notice that, like I think he had like
just a white T shirt on underneath and stuff, and
there was a very bulky so he didn't have the
bull proof vest on. They were even good on that
kind of detail. And when you see him at the

(02:25:09):
end of the film when he rules Doc over, Doc
has I think a different colored shirt on now and
the big bulky this. So they were really good even
in that kind of detail. I enjoyed that, you know,
because when you're really trying to nippick a movie apart,
you know, especially for something like a podcast that we're doing,
and you can't. Man's that's it's just such a treat that,

(02:25:30):
like it's just that solid of a movie, you know,
you just you can hardly find a flaw on the
whole thing. So I enjoyed that, and I enjoyed that
they didn't just make it so that they came back
and everything was the same. You know, there's obviously going
to be some changes, and his influence upon his father
and his father's relationship with his mother had positive influences
all the way down, and they paid off in spades

(02:25:51):
at the end, and the bad guy got what he deserved.
You know. Biff ended up being kind of a lackey
that you know, now George gets to push around. So
he was just so really satisfying into the film. And
then have a doc come back. He's like, oh my god,
I've already eats your kids, you know. So they jump
in the car and off they go. And like I said,
they never had any inkling that they were going to

(02:26:13):
do anymore of these, so it was even a cute ending.
It's like, oh my god, what's the matter with my kids?
And they're like assholes.

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
He's like, oh, you got to come back, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:26:20):
So it just it was it was very cute very
well done. And and uh, and it's amazing that these
guys they they not only did they strike gold here,
but they're going to do it two more times, and
they're going to tie these movies together solid, Like they're
just the attention to detail and story riding that we
see here we're going to get to see two more times,
you know. I mean, it's just so well done. These

(02:26:41):
guys should they should just be happy, like when you
got to that third one, they should be like, look,
we're done. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:26:47):
I'm dropping the mic, I'm walking away, we're retiring.

Speaker 3 (02:26:50):
We're never going to do better than this. I mean,
it's just a phenomenal job that I would be as
proud as anybody could be if these three movies were
something that I created and wrote. I mean, I just
it's an amazing job and it's fun to watch and
completely satisfying.

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
Yeah, it's it's definitely a salad. And of course, you know,
the one last thing that I just wanted to comment
on is, you know, he changed his t He had
such a positive force through everything, but there is one
negative thing that I have to point out they changed,
and that's it's no longer the twin Pines Mall. It's
the lone Pine Mall because he had to go and

(02:27:27):
murder a trick. So all you tree huggers out there,
that's the one thing that Marty McFly did wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
And there you go. That's a sad day in the
pine Tree community, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:27:39):
So, gentlemen, that brings us to our death clock. I
have a pretty good idea where everyone sits on this,
but I need to ask the question, is this worth
taking an hour and fifty six minutes off your death clock?

Speaker 6 (02:27:52):
Rick?

Speaker 4 (02:27:53):
Is it a yes or no?

Speaker 5 (02:28:01):
It's one thousand percent yes. If if if, oh boy,
if you know something, you watch it.

Speaker 6 (02:28:07):
You're listening to this.

Speaker 5 (02:28:08):
You've probably already seen it. But if you know someone
who hasn't, do them a favor and.

Speaker 4 (02:28:14):
Make beautifully spoken tim oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:28:17):
Definitely worry. I mean, I don't think there's much more
I can say. It's a great film. It's fun, it's
great for the whole family. You're gonna you're gonna watch
it once, twice, three times, a dozen, three hundred. I mean,
you're just gonna watch this a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
It's a great film, and uh, you're gonna enjoy it
each and every time.

Speaker 4 (02:28:34):
Excellent Okay, Joey laid on me, buddy, duh A man,
A few words. That's what we love about Joey, all right,
and I am in agreement that this movie is definitely
worth taking time off of your death clock numerous times.
Like I said, I've owned this movie in several formats VHS, DBD,

(02:28:55):
BLU ray. Yeah, it is definitely worth taking time off
that clock. All right, gentlemen, Well, that has been back
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Speaker 3 (02:29:39):
Like, yeah, Matt, of course I have. I'm you know,
I'm one of the freaking editors.

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
So yeah, yeah, I know. I mean, we both have
to deal with all the UM's and the no's and
audio leveling. Don't get me started on Joey's long dive
tribes about bad horror movies.

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Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
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Speaker 4 (02:30:55):
Now that we've discussed that movie, what else are you watching?
What's worth sharing?

Speaker 6 (02:31:07):
I don't know if this is worth sharing, but it's
what I've been watching. So I did. I did watch
Jurassic World Rebirth.

Speaker 5 (02:31:16):
Okay, and and I'll tell you what, man, you know
what this is?

Speaker 6 (02:31:25):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:31:26):
If you are into Jurassic stuff, then maybe yeah, I
go see it.

Speaker 6 (02:31:30):
This was like a.

Speaker 5 (02:31:32):
Complete ripoff of I think it was like Jurassic Park
two or three, you know, the one where they go
back to This is Kathleen Kennedy production.

Speaker 3 (02:31:42):
I think it sounds like another movie where they just
completely reproduced another that. It was like. I think there
was like an episode I don't know, seven and it
was like a four something like that.

Speaker 6 (02:32:04):
Yeah, it was, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:32:07):
I guess it would have been cooler if they would
have ripped off one that actually worked, but instead they
ripped off one that was bad, so it pretty much
made it worse. I don't know, man, it was. It
was like Jurassic Park on easy mode. I couldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:32:22):
I was.

Speaker 5 (02:32:24):
I was like, this is a freaking Jurassic This is
like a bunch of dinosaurs, man, and everyone's able to
do everything and not have any consequences.

Speaker 6 (02:32:32):
Like what the fuck? Man?

Speaker 5 (02:32:34):
People should be dying left and right. It didn't make
any sense, man, I was like, what the hell. However,
the good stuff that I've been watching still party to
help my former students reach the dungeon depths. This one

(02:32:58):
I was watching and it just I went all the
way through with this one. It's a it's only one season,
but it's and it's short and everything like that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:05):
But it's I got a cheap skill in another world, Rick.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
I've never got to t I'm gonna get bored about
halfway through. I find something much simpler.

Speaker 5 (02:33:14):
It's a it's a real good anime, man, I mean,
don't want me to give you the translated version.

Speaker 6 (02:33:28):
That's even worse. But but actually that they're both like
phenomenal animes. It's definitely worth watching.

Speaker 5 (02:33:37):
But but yeah, that's pretty much mostly everything I've been watching.
I've been playing a lot of the Night Rain game
that I put a video out just last week for
doing some solo runs.

Speaker 6 (02:33:50):
For those of you who know.

Speaker 5 (02:33:51):
What I'm talking about, beating the game so well, Joey,
what are you watching?

Speaker 2 (02:33:56):
I saw Superman and I liked it. I didn't love it,
but I liked it. I've saw a couple of movies
that are streaming right now that are a little lesser known.
I watched The Luckiest Man in America, which is streaming
on AMC Plus and it starts Paul Walter Hauser and
Walton Goggins, and it's based on a true story. Is

(02:34:19):
the guy who figured out how to win the game
Press Your Luck in nineteen eighty four spoiler alert, the
real life guy like he has like further adventures that
are like way wilder than what happens in this movie,
which is highly dramatized. And read that Wikipedia article and
then read the Wikipedia article about Peter Tamarkin, the host

(02:34:42):
of the show as well. That's also gonna be a
big eyebrow raiser. I highly recommend the movie. Paul Walter
Hauser doesn't disappoint. Neither is Walton Goggins, even though he's
playing a very small part, and he even has Mazy
Williams from Game of Thrones in a not so big
role as well.

Speaker 11 (02:34:57):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (02:34:58):
Well, how about you sim what if I had.

Speaker 3 (02:35:00):
Two movies I watched this week outside of Back to
the Future, I watched A Working Man with Jason Stadium,
his latest one.

Speaker 2 (02:35:07):
Not as good as The bee Keeper, but pretty decent.

Speaker 3 (02:35:09):
Stories a little convoluted, could have been pared down, a
little bit made, a little boring, streamlined, it made for
a better viewing, but overall not a bad film. Pretty
much what you'd expect from him, so worth watching if
you're into the you know, the action films, and to
watch what he does. The other one, I watched a
funny little movie called Zombie Repellent from our friends in

(02:35:31):
New Zealand. It feels pretty much like it's a little
bit of an independent film, so you know, I like
zombie films. I happen to run across this thing. It's
it's all right, it's it's entertaining.

Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
It's cute for what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
It's about a couple on their way to Vegas to
Elope and get married, and they get stuck in this
little town full of just all kinds of crazy people
and zombies.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
So you know, I'm not gonna tell you to.

Speaker 3 (02:35:56):
Run out and watch it, but you know, if you
got nothing better to do and you want to watch
a cute little film, it's it's with your time. It's
a little over an hour, so I think you can
find it to be complex if I remember correctly, So
check that out nice and then you know.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Unfortunately, we've lost three major major actors in the last
week basically who were popular in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Yeah, very much so. But we what we've lost Malcolm
Jamal Warner. We've watched you know, Terry Hulk Hogan, and
we watched you know Ozzy Osbourne. We've lost him as well.
So I was gonna, you know, line up this weekend
as tribute to these guys, watch a little bit of Jericho,
you know, so I can. I started that kind of
fell off a little bit, but I'm gonna go back
watch it. Get a little bit more Malcolm Jamal Warner

(02:36:39):
in there, I too, if queued up, found my copy
of Trick or Treat so I can watch Ozzie as
a reverend, which is just wrong in so many ways,
but yes, so right, and uh, you know, thought i'd
give that a try. And then for you know, old
Hulk Hogan again, as we were talking earlier, I think
I'm gonna you know, up myself and watch a little

(02:37:01):
bit of Suburban Commando. So well, little tribute weekend, if
you will, is gonna be my viewing this week, I
think coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:37:09):
I can't wait to find out how much you could
finish a Suburban Commando before you find something better to do.

Speaker 6 (02:37:16):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:37:16):
I mean, he's got about a dozen movies that he's done.
But I'm not a Rocky fan, which is probably his
best one. So outside of that, it gets pretty thin
after that. But you know why to give, you know,
want to do my tribute best here. Although maybe maybe
I'll pull up I think he was in a couple
of Ateen episodes, so maybe I'll pull up an eighteen
with a minute and watch that instead. Then it's only

(02:37:37):
thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:37:38):
I'm just gonna send you a clip of him in
Thunder and Paradise, the TV series.

Speaker 3 (02:37:44):
All right, Well there we go. Like I said, it's
a little bit of a thin lineup of movies and
television that he's done.

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
So you got to pick the best of the worst.

Speaker 4 (02:37:54):
Well, unfortunately, I haven't watched anything new lately. I've been
still trying to catch up on my How I Met
Your Mother, so I'm probably around like season four or
five right now. So fun series to watch. Just it's
nice to go back and you know, think of a
simpler time when you know Neil Patrick Harris was trying

(02:38:15):
to pick up chicks in a bar. So but yeah,
that's about it. So before we close tonight, I do
want to thank Rick for joining us as filling in
that fourth chair like he always does. Rick, if other
people wanted to listen to stuff that you do outside
of movies. Where can they go?

Speaker 5 (02:38:41):
So I have a YouTube channel. I talk up games.
I give tips and tricks and stuff like that. Information
primarily souls like games and tactical RPGs, so things like Bloodborne,
Dark Souls, Elden Ring and now Night Rain, and to
RPGs like Fell Seal Tactics over those type of things.

(02:39:06):
And soon probably next month after this drops, I think
it's next month we'll get the re release of Vinyl
Fantasy Tactics, So I'm really looking forward to that. That'll
be pretty fun to put out some videos for that.
But that is Dungeon Master Elite. That is the all
right channel.

Speaker 3 (02:39:26):
Well, thanks everyone for listening to the Middle Aged Reviews podcast.
We hope you joined our review of Back to the Future,
and hey, if you liked this review, then why don't
you go forward into the Back of the Future franchise
and listen to our April Fools.

Speaker 2 (02:39:40):
Episode of Back to the Future four.

Speaker 3 (02:39:42):
Yes, that's right, we wrote an entire episode and did
a completely bogus review on a movie that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (02:39:49):
But hell, we worked really hard and it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:52):
Turned out pretty decent, so you might find it pretty entertaining,
and if you did like subscribe, leave us some love,
leave us some comments. You know, tell your friends about it.
Let's get the word out and hopefully we can make
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we hit one hundred episodes.

Speaker 4 (02:40:09):
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a commoner suggestion than email the show at man Review
podcast at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:40:16):
I think maybe that's the message of this film.

Speaker 6 (02:40:18):
Thanks for listening, stay cool, and buye everyone.

Speaker 1 (02:49:00):
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