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Episode 78 - Halloween Horror Month (2025)The Wolf Man (Harry Nepotism)
Our hosts continue traveling through a remote countryside with a band of gypsies. Matt, Tim, and Joey find the arrival of another very harry cohort as they run into Cyber yet again to discuss another Universal horror movie. This time the guys peer into the film The Wolf Man starring Lon Chaney Jr. , Claude Rains, and Directed by George Waggner.
As the guys sit by the fire of the gypsy camp , they discuss the wonders of the Wolf man. They rap about the use of makeup and effects of Lon Chaney Jr. They also talk about Cybers first time watching this film as well as Tim 's first journey in to this Universal Movie Monster.
Matt is given a unique style to rundown the synopsis as he channels a gypsy and Bela Lugosi. Meanwhile, Joey tells us what he thinks of the effects in the film as well as his usual off color humor for this 1941 film.
Check out this and more on this episode of Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast, Halloween Edition.
Where to find Cyber (Cybernetic Shark)On YouTube Cyber
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Death Clock - Death Clock 2,800 hours of movies
Is it worth taking the time to tick off your Death Clock? 1 hour and 10 mins
Tim: Yes
Tim's Remaining Death Clock
(2,714 hours and 54 Min)
Matt: Yes
Matt's Remaining Death Clock
(2,698 hours and 59 Min)
Joey: No
Joey's Remaining Death Clock
(2,720 hours and 29 Min)
Cyber: Yes
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Episode 78 - Halloween Horror Month (2025)The Wolf Man (Harry Nepotism)
Our hosts continue traveling through a remote countryside with a band of gypsies. Matt, Tim, and Joey find the arrival of another very harry cohort as they run into Cyber yet again to discuss another Universal horror movie. This time the guys peer into the film The Wolf Man starring Lon Chaney Jr. , Claude Rains, and Directed by George Waggner.
As the guys sit by the fire of the gypsy camp , they discuss the wonders of the Wolf man. They rap about the use of makeup and effects of Lon Chaney Jr. They also talk about Cybers first time watching this film as well as Tim 's first journey in to this Universal Movie Monster.
Matt is given a unique style to rundown the synopsis as he channels a gypsy and Bela Lugosi. Meanwhile, Joey tells us what he thinks of the effects in the film as well as his usual off color humor for this 1941 film.
Check out this and more on this episode of Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast, Halloween Edition.
Where to find Cyber (Cybernetic Shark)On YouTube Cyber
Theme Song Eddies Twister provided by Open Music Archive.Org which is an open source public domain music. The Open Music Archive concerns itself with the public domain and creative works which are not owned by any one individual and are held in common by society as a whole.
Middle Age Movie Reviews is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0
Death Clock - Death Clock 2,800 hours of movies
Is it worth taking the time to tick off your Death Clock? 1 hour and 10 mins
Tim: Yes
Tim's Remaining Death Clock
(2,714 hours and 54 Min)
Matt: Yes
Matt's Remaining Death Clock
(2,698 hours and 59 Min)
Joey: No
Joey's Remaining Death Clock
(2,720 hours and 29 Min)
Cyber: Yes
T-shirt Shop
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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it's a mouthful. For more great shows like the one
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and now our feature presentation.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, Welcome to the Middle Age Movies Podcast. Three guys saying,
even a man who is pure of heart and says
this prayers by night may become a woolf when the
wolf fame blooms and the autumn moon is bright. My
name is Tim and my podcasting partners are Matt Joey
joining us tonight fresh from his full moon. Cut your
sidewalk about and might I say what big guys you
(00:47):
have from the Cybernetic Shark nepsc use bleedy eds YouTube channels,
It's cyber say Hello, cyber.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hello, salutations, folks. How we're doing great to be here?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right, Joey, why don't you tell us what we're
seeing in the crystal ball tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Tonight we are watching the nineteen forty one movie The Wolfman,
Number one hundred and forty three from the book of
one thousand and one Movies You Should Watch Before You Die,
written by Kurt Sidemack, directed by George Wagner and starring
Claude Rains, Warren William, Ralph Bellamy, Lon Chaney Junior, and
Evelyn Hunkers.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right, guys, Well, since Matt seems to have a
problem doing were wolf movies, I don't know, maybe we're
cutting a little close to the skin. I'm going to
take the helm this evening, so I will begin the
normal questioning cyber. When was the first time you watched
The Wolfman?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Ugh?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The first time I watched The wolf Man was probably
right around the time it got re released on VHS.
I remember going to the video store around this time
of the year, the October season, and I was walking
down the horror section and I noticed this film called
The wolf Man, and I was like, Eh, what is
(02:04):
this film? And I remember looking at it and going
I recognized the name of Lon Chaney Junior. And I
always had a big thing for were wolves. I've always
loved to were wolves. And I remember, you know, picking
it up and showed it to my mom and she
were going, yeah, that's one of the universal horror monster
classic that's a great film. You got to see it.
And so she rented it and we watched it after
(02:25):
finishing it. That first time, I was just like, this
is a masterpiece because I had seen too many of
the universal classic films at that time, so this was
like one of the first ones I had ever seen.
It just blew me away. I was like, Wow, this
was oppressive for nineteen forty one. The graphics, the look,
everything about it was just so fun. I think it
(02:45):
was a really great first experience. Even after thirty years
later rewatching it, it still holds up and is just
still such an amazing film.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh that's a really great trip down memory lane. So Matthew,
since you apparently aren't breaking out hair and fang tonight,
why don't you tell us when you first watched The
wolf Man?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
All right, So this is gonna be a hot take
for all of our listeners down under. I have never
actually watched The Wolfman all the way through. I've only
seen like little snippets of the classic sequence where he's
running up to the tree limbs and stuff. But I
think my biggest first watch for a Wolfman esque movie
was Abbott Costella Meat Frankansign and that was the first
(03:25):
time I was introduced to the Larry Talbot Wolfman. So
I'm actually going into this with some fresh perspective because
I've never actually watched this movie all the way through,
so I'm kind of excited to talk to you guys
about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Excellent, Joey, how about you? When was the first time
you watch it?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I imagine I saw it on television, but I literally
can't remember when. I was probably a kid, and it
was probably Halloween time and they were probably showing clips
of it on some other special about horror movies that
I was watching.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't recall.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Watching it from beginning to end until like the twenty
first century, I think what it came out on DVD.
Much more recently, I've watched parts of it when it's
aired on s FINGOULI, which is it seems like every year.
I could not tell you exactly when I watched this
for the first time.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know, Okay, Well, I myself kind of the
same as Matthew. I think my first encounter was the Abacastello.
That's how I met a lot of my universal monsters.
But much like our book of one thousand and one
movies that we're trying to, you know, slowly tick off
and see each one of them. As I've stated before,
I'm trying to slowly tick off all the universal monster films.
(04:32):
So this is really a first viewing of this film
for me as well. So I'm glad to be able
to sit down and watch it discuss it with the
rest of you. I'm very excited. So with that being said,
I think we're going to move on to our synopsis.
And Matthew, since you seem to have enough guts to
show up this evening for this scary film, I'm going
to put you on the hot seat as I always do,
(04:53):
and tonight what I'd like you to do is I'd
like you to read the synopsis as an old British
gypsy recounting the curse Ah British gypsy.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Okay, well, here's what I can do for you. I
try to do a little bit of English gypsy, but
it's gonna probably be romani. So in a many a
distant village there exists the legend of the werewolf or
the Wolfman, a strange, mortal man with the heron fangs
of an unearthly beast whose hideous howl is the dirge
(05:24):
of death. But this is no legend but a cautionary tale,
for this is the reality in lan Welly, as the
local gypsies insist a werewolf is among them it has
begun to kill during the full moon. These killings strangely
coincide with the arrival of Larry Talbot, who, after eighteen
(05:46):
years abroad, has returned to take over his family estate.
While out one evening with Gwn Corneliff and her friend
Jinny Williams, Ginny is attacked by what Larry believes to
be a wolf and during the attack is bitten before
killing the animal. When authorities arrived at the scene, it
(06:06):
is discovered that Ginny is dead, along with the local gypsy,
Bella Bella. Now Larry questions what actually happened that night,
as he has no bite marks. The following day, rumors
spread that Bella was in fact the werewolf and with
his final bite, transferred the curse to Larry, who is
(06:26):
now doomed, doomed to take his place.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Nice, nicely done way to get into the character.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Think that just sounds like the plot to The Hangover.
I don't remember anything, bitten, crazy, I got.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
This weird tattoo on my face. What's your say? What's
my saying?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Maybe it's loosely based on the wolf van.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, I think we cracked the coat of it's all
based on the Wolfman. Strangely enough, well, let's go ahead
and die right into our story here, gentlemen, so if
you're ready. Due to the unexpected death of his older brother,
Larry Talbot returns to his ancestral home to Talbot Castle
and land, Wellie, Wales, after eighteen years abroad in America.
(07:19):
He must now reconcile with his strange father, Sir John Talbot,
and prepared to take over as head of the Talbot estate.
While helping his father set up a new telescope, Larry
spies Gwen Kamleif getting ready in her bedroom window. Infatuated
with Gwen, Larry visits the antique shop to ask her out,
(07:40):
under the guise of buying specific earrings he's seen on
her dressing table. Gwen, confused by the request, fends off
his requests for a date. Undeterred, Larry purchases a unique
walking stick decorating with a silver wolf's head and a pentagram.
Upon leaving, Larry declares that he will be back that
evening to pick her up for their date. Cyber, what
(08:02):
it's your thoughts on the beginning of this film?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I love the beginning montage showing each of the actors
and actresses who are in the film.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I love how we get right into the story.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Death happens in the family got to come back to
the old country basically, and you know, take your business.
At the same time, they end up finding a love
interest and try to get a date with them. And
I don't know what it is about Lawn Cheney Jr.
But just his presence and how he act in that
whole situation I think was just so fun and he
(08:35):
just seems so lawless at doing it and trying to
ask her out. It just seemed like there was a
natural attraction there. I just thought that Lawn did such
a great job of bringing that to life and give
us such a great interesting take on John Talbot and
kind of giving you that first real taste of who
John Talot is. If you think about it. He's kind
of like a con man almost a little bit. He's
(08:56):
definitely somebody that can persuade people, and as we see
in that sequence there, he's able to, you know, kind
of persuade her and getting her to go out with him.
But the whole thing that he's like spying through the
telescope matter was you know, totally like creepy. Yeah, I
mean exactly what you would expect a guy being a
(09:16):
guy is kind of what it felt like. And it
was fun seeing that because you don't see that very
often in movies these days.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
But I think this is a really great beginning to
the film.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean we get some really great comedy fill a
little bit of a romance fill along with that horror
and kind of thriller. Thought process, really great start to
the film and really well done. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think I have to counter you a little bit, though.
I think we still get to see a bit of
voyeurism even in today's films. The film that comes to
mind is the one we just recently did a review on,
which was Back to the Future. We got a little
George McFly action there, you know, where he's peeping through
the windows. So it still happens, but I don't think
quite to the degree that we're getting here.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I mean that was a Telesco for astronomy, not a
pair of binoculars.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think he cranks the
creepiness up to about a thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
If she would have yawned, he could have examined the
fillings in her molars.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And her acceptance of it. She just seemed to accept
it far too well. I thought, but man, what did
you think? Man?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I totally agree with you. He was totally throwing out
George McFly creeper vibes. I mean I literally was gonna
bring up George McFly. You cut me off, man, way
to head me off at the borgo pass.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Great minds, Matthew, great minds.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yes, I do think he was thrown out some very
creeper vibes. But yet when he does show up, I
think it gives him a little extra confidence because when
he's talking to her, as our good friend Rick would say,
he has riz. I believe it is the term that
Rick would say, and the fact that he's trying to
impress her or you know, show her some kind of
cavalier attitude. From a modern viewpoint, it came off a
(10:57):
little odd for me. My whole mind just thinks creeper.
And the other thing that I wanted to bring up
Claude Rains. So Claude Rains, he's got charisma. I gotta
say he did a great job in this movie. You
get the feeling that he knows how to play a
eldered statesman kind of father. But looking at him compared
to Larry Talbot, I felt as though they looked very
(11:19):
close in age, almost like Harrison Ford and Sean Connery
were close in age in real life when they filmed
The Last Crusade. I felt the same way between Larry
Talbot and John Talbot, like the actors were kind of
close in age by appearance.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'd have to agree with that. I think that they
looked fairly close in age two when I watch it,
and I don't think it helps that Lon is so
much taller. He's like six foot one or something. I mean,
he's a really big dude compared to I would say Claude,
who's probably more five to six I'm guessing, so there
was definite high difference, which is not normal in the family,
but I guess even in Lawn's family he was taller
(11:56):
than his father as well. But it definitely made it
harder to watch because it didn't seem like there was
that much age difference versus again, going back to the
Back to the Future one, where a lot of those
actors were within a couple of years of each other,
but they did such a great job in the makeup.
They appear to be far more further part in age. Joey,
(12:16):
what are your thoughts on the beginning of the film.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, Larry Talbot's got more than creeper vibes. He's got
big d energy. He knows this woman's taken, and he's
just he's not feeling the vibes that she's done looking.
And what comes to mind is every time, at the
end of every episode of Law and Order, especially if
my wife's in the room, I read that name on
the screen backwards and I say wolf Dick. There's a
(12:41):
little bit of theme in that. This is the animal
inside Larry before he ever gets bitten by a werewolf.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Done.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And yeah, he might have been on an episode of
Long Order if she wouldn't have been interested. I think
he was still gonna pursue her. I like it Larry
very much. He's also a giant. His mother's Amazon. Because
his dad's a shrimp. You could argue there might have
been some you know, given the time period Larry grew
(13:09):
up drinking milk. Dad just sad bread and water. I
don't know, but completely not buying that this is his
dad is literally confusing. I'm not gonna shit on Claude Rains.
He's the better actor of the two. Really, lawn Chaney
Junior's been riding his father's coattails this whole fucking career
in his life.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
So just FYI, forget guys.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Claude Rains was five to seven and lawn Chaney Junior
was six foot twopark. Lawn Cheney Senior was five to
seven as well, so their heights wise is actually acurate
to the actual son bothered duo. Now, Claude Rains is
seventeen years older than lawn Chaney Junior, so he could
(13:53):
have been the.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
High school baby.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That guy's well preserved.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Then Larry's Talbot had an older brother, so second high.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
School baby junior high school baby.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, they could only been a year's difference between them.
Older is older, right, It only takes ten months to
make the difference nine if you're really, you know, perfectly
on top of it. What do they call that Irish twins?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Sir John Talbot had that dog in him too, there
you go. Yeah, as Suso's nuts drop, he used.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Them well and apparently those nuts paid off because Larry
arrives that evening to Gwen's residence to pick her up
for their date. Gwen, now wearing the earrings Larry inquired
about earlier, agrees to go out with him, but only
if they go with her friend Jenny Williams to have
their fortunes told at the local gypsy camp. Larry and
Gwen go for a walk around the camp as Jenny
(14:45):
has her fortune told by the Romanian fortune teller Bella. First,
as he examines her hand, he sees a pentagram and
frantically sends her away. Jenny, frightened, flees into the night
and is soon heard screaming in the forest. Larry rushes
to her aid and finds a wolf attacking her next
to a tree. Larry struggles with the wolf and has
bitten in the chest, before overtaking the creature and beating
(15:07):
it to death with his new walking stick before staggering away.
Gwen finds Larry collapsed in the forest and convinces Melva,
a local gypsy passing by to his sister and bringing
Larry back to the Talbot cassel Matt, what are your
thoughts about this epic battle between man and wolf?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, the epic raging battle that took place between a
puppet dog and Claude Rains. I guess say it was
a cool effect. He was able to defeat the wolf
with the silver cane with the pentagram on it. It
shows that the establishment of silver in the death of
a werewolf. It's on a studio set, so you have
(15:48):
the classic man made trees and stuff, so it was
kind of a neat effect for the nineteen forties. I
thought it was entertaining. I wasn't expecting like this huge
brawl that you would see between like the See You
with the Hulk and Captain America.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I thought you were gonna go with c versus Andres
versus versus Jeff.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
And I think Cyber can totally take them both.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Cyber got any thoughts in that or you know the
segment of the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh thank you, thank you, sir any who, this is
a really fantastic part. I love this part so much
because we get the all great action sequence with the
puppet dog, and as kind of it's been mentioned a
little bit, you know, it definitely looks like a puppet dog.
But at the same time, I think for nineteen forty one,
it looked pretty decent, especially with the production value that
(16:37):
they had for this film. For its time, it had
a pretty decent production value, so I think that, you know,
majority of the sets and everything that were on this
film were actually done pretty well. Compared to other Universal
Wantster films, some of them were a lot cheaper because
they didn't have the money to do it because at
the time when they were being filmed, great depression was
setting in. So I feel that definitely the set pieces
(16:58):
on this especially that that.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Kane was really cool looking.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I loved the silver doghead look, and that fight with
the wolf and Laon Cheney Junior is just epic.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Lawn Cheney did a great job.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'm making a look as realistic as possible, and even
though you knew that he was taking out the world,
he didn't have to fully see it to understand that,
and I thought that was really great directing. But that
whole set there is really done well. We get Bella
for the first time, we get to see him, which
is really awesome. He plays that gypsy character so well.
Bella Legosi always played his characters well. I mean, even
(17:34):
though all of them kind of had very much a
lot of similarities, he still was always just so fantastic
and fun to watch because he tried to be a perfectionist,
but he didn't really do that. He actually he was
pretty like clumsy a lot of time, and it came
off so fun and just fun acting. Hence why he
was so perfect for the ed Wood films. He just
was that great of an actor. I thought this performance,
(17:56):
says the Little Gypsy, the very small part it was,
It's still I was athlete fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I think it's interesting too that, you know, Bela Lagosi
had such a small part because he really campaigned hard
to want to be the Wolfman, but he just didn't
get the part. They really wanted to give it to
the Lawn Cheney Junior. So but it does give us
a film later with the two of them in it,
So we'll get the actual Dracula and the wolf Man,
I believe together and a film later on down the
(18:23):
road here with the two of them. So it worked
out well. Joy any thoughts this part of the film.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I thought the fake wolf looked pretty good. I think
what everybody's gonna be asking themselves later is like, why
doesn't Lon Cheney Junior transform into a actual wolf like wolf?
Why is he bipedal and the other guy was a wolf?
I don't think it looked as fake as like say
the raccoon attacking Will Ferrell and Elf. They just walk
(18:50):
right up to the edge of being comical, and maybe
it looks worse than four K. I didn't get to
watch this one in high definition, so I don't know
how bad it really looked. There's no one behind the
scenes pictures of the wolf prop. I thought it was
pretty decent, but it certainly doesn't lead to consistency.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I think to answer your question, I think the
common theory with this one is that when you first
get bitten, you don't fully transform into a where wolf.
You become a wolf man first, and the longer you
carry the curse, the more you transfer from being a
wolf man into a werewolf proper, which turns you into
(19:28):
a full fledged wolf at that point. That's at least
the common theme I get from the debates that go
on about that.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Where are these debates on Reddit?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
They're just all over place on the internet. Man, Just
go go start digging, go start looking for this stuff,
because people talk about this movie, and that's one of
the big things. I seen several different ones. I've read
it wherever else. You know, we just type in why
was one you know a wolf man. The other one
was a bipedal, and you're gonna find it. It'll be
out there, I mean, and I shouldn't say it's great
to base. It's just threads with ten fifteen people talking
(20:00):
about it and then that threat it ends and you'll
find it somewhere else and a bunch of people bringing
up the same question over and over. But it's still
being an ass that's still being talked about. Probably not
as much as more modern films, of course, because these
are much older and a lot of people you know,
unfortunately just don't give a shit. But the ones that do,
they're still out there discussing it, and they're discussing the
history of these movies. They're discussing what is the rules
of the were wolf and where did some of these
(20:21):
rules stem from? Even though you know where wolves have
been in lore for hundreds of years, it has changed
in these universal films did their part on starting to
establish a lot of the common things that we know,
like whereof can only die of silver? Things like that,
So that's why they have silver cane in this is
the only weapon that they have that can kill the
were wolf. Even though there's a mention several times of
(20:43):
silver bullets, nobody really has one, and they almost say
it out of the corner their mouth, like, oh, you know,
these bulls are doing good, we'd have to have a
silver bull, you know, because they think it's old, just
a bunch of bs. So it's it's interesting in how
they start to establish this realm, and then other movies
will pick it up later and they'll more lidi down
the line, not only with the wolf Man, both Dracula
and other characters.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I think you nailed it with the low and the rules.
I think the universal horror movies are drawing from books
or other lore that they want to. They're picking and choosing.
But then this becomes the norm for decades.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, and I think again some people built on that
after the fact. These days there's so many movies where
people are so dedicated to them. They'll have entire wikis
that this is what this movie is, and this is
the rules of it and everything like that. Unlike over
here where this happens, that's not really really, you know,
there begins with arguments on what's real and what's not,
and what can kill these monsters and what affects them
(21:36):
and so on and so forth. But it's it's just
interesting how the fandom really will lock into one particular
movie and that becomes the gospel of how these things work,
while another one will lock into another one, and then
it just starts all these fun conversations as to you know,
what's really the lore and what's not. And add into
role playing games, you know, dungeons, dragons, things like that.
(21:58):
Now you're adding in a whole other level on top
of that on the rules of how these creatures interact
in the human realm.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I always follow the guidelines of the famous nineteen eighties
gooty esque movie Monster Squad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The wolf man has nards yards. I believe you may
be correct that is the only rule to wear welf
we need to know. But getting back to our film,
so the murder has happened and Larry has been brought
back to Talbot Castle in the evening. The police go
to investigate the scene and find Jenny's throat torn out
by some sort of large animal, But instead of finding
(22:35):
the reported wolf next to her body, they find the
batter body of local gypsy Bela. Larry Talbot's wolf camee
lies close to the man's pummel body clearly the murder weapon.
Suspicion on Larry deepens when he cannot substantiate his story
of fighting a wolf since his chest wound miraculously heals overnight.
The issue is compounded by the fact that Larry and
(22:56):
Gwen were not with Jenny when she was attacked, which
it's a suspicion of adult tree. Though Gwen's fiance Frank
Andrews believe in their innocence, Larry and Gwen become local pariahs.
So this definitely shows a sign of the times on
how this is being handled by the townsfolk. And I'd
be interested to see what you guys think. So, Joey,
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what's your thoughts about this?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Larry's a dirty dog and the fiance has become a cuck. Oh,
and then of course, let's don't forget the slutshaming. What
was up with the group of ladies just barging into
her dad's shop, just talking trash about her while she's
sitting in the parlor listening to it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
A lot of it was just.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Implied, but yeah, it was literally like a horde of Karen's.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, for sure, they were having none of it.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, they wanted to talk to the manager and even
had nothing to do with the fucking store. That's getting
worse than that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Well, I don't think it was the masters or dad.
That's his store, right, they both worked there together.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So yeah, yeah, they're like, hey, we're gonna barge into
your place of business and talk about your daughter's morality
and how she was there when this other young lady
was killed, and why didn't she do anything about it?
What was she up to while this was all going on,
someone was getting their throat torn out? What was your
daughter's throat doing at that time when the other person's
throat was getting you know, malled?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Mmmmmm, she was having a delicate conversation with another person.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, man, would you like to would you like to
expand on that thought?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
No? Not really, uh no, But honestly, I think it
is neat because it taps into the id of the
human mind, and the script writer is definitely playing with
it all through here. Larry Talbot is forced to become
this hero to save his pseudo girlfriend's friend from an
evil wolf attack. We see the transformation from a wolf
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to bella. We get the establishment of the lore of
the werewolf right in these sequences, And yeah, It's definitely
shows what the times were like in the forties with
how people viewed other people. I mean, you set it
right off the bat, the suspected adultery. Clearly they don't
have any evidence that this woman was committing adultrey, but
yet they are quick to blame the witch hunters right
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out there. Boom.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I think I saw one of the ladies in the
back swing the scarlet letter.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All I can say is, if you're going to wander
around with a strange man, you better have some champerones
with you, otherwise you're going to be the scourge of
the town. Cyber, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Obviously it's very ambiguous, this adultery thing in this film,
but I think in the film itself it's very loose
context and it cracks me up kind of that going
for a walk adultery is pretty funny in my opinion,
especially in today's standards, if you think about it, and
I think that you know, in this it was pretty
innocent and charming. Just was kind of funny that they
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become such pariahs in their town because of this walk
that they took after this unfortunate event where this woman
and this other person were killed. A little facto for
you guys, The actual wolf that Taxlon Cheney Jr. Is
actually his real German shepherd that he had at the
time time that they have put on a costume to
play the wolf when he gets attacked in that sequence.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So I think that's kind of interesting little tidbit.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Also, the only surviving prop on this film is the
cane that he used in that scene to kill the wolf.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Which is awesome. Thank god that thing survived. It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, I think those are some pretty funny, interesting factoids.
But I think that this sequence really starts to get
you down into the nitty gritty of what is going
on with Larry Talby. He's unfortunately got this woman stuck
in kind of his delusion that they're starting to say,
you know, is this all in his head? Did he
really fight a wolf? Did he really kill a wolf?
Because when they find the two dead bodies, it's a
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woman and a man, it's not a wolf and a woman.
So it's kind of like, maybe he is going crazy.
Maybe this is kind of a maybe a kill of passion.
Maybe almost It plays out so well with this movie
being such a short film, only an hour and ten
minutes long. I love the pacing of this film. I
have to give them props for that, because there's a
a lot of films that they're just edited like crap.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Still, great section of the.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Film, really well done and really really fun and enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, I'd have to agree.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
If I could just interject one quick question to cy
So Cyber, you know we had talked about the women
showing up to the shop. Is it just me or
did anyone else get illusions of missus Kittner from the
World's Greatest film Jaws?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, I could see that all those women were such
classic tropes of how women were viewed at the time.
And I think that even thirty years later, when Jaws
came out, Kittner I felt was dressed still like she
was in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
So I totally could see that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I actually have to ask a follo up question to
you on that, Matthew, Are you purely asking these Jaws
related questions to try to get back into why these
good graces since some of the members of this panel
did not watch Jaws until we did.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
The review, Maybe maybe not Maybe the twofold thing, because
I mean, he's got shark in his name.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So you know, okay, that's how you're going to disguise.
I don't go with it. I'm sure it has nothing
to do with trying to make points of Whitey. So
Larry the next day gets up and that tends a
local gypsy carnival. Bella's mother, Malova, reveals to Larry that
the wolf which bit him was Bella in the form
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of a werewolf. She informs Larry that he too, now
carries the curse and will become a werewolf due to
the bite he's sustained during the fight. She informs him
that silver is the only thing that could kill a
werewolf and presents him with a silver pentagram charm to
prevent his transformation. Uncertain whether to believe her, he instead
gives the charm to Gwen to protect her. That night,
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as the moon rises, Larry begins to sense his transformation
into a humanoid with highbred. Once the transformation is complete,
he prowls the village until he finds the local grave
digger in the cemetery finishing Jenny Williams grave, and attacks him.
The howling during the attack awikes the townsfolk, who discover
the murdered man and large wolf tracks leading away from
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the victim. Now, Matthew, I'm gonna let you double down
on your statement earlier of the id of the mind,
since one of the other popular beliefs is that maybe
he never was a were wolf, but just convinced himself
that he was a wolf man and that's why he
did not transform into the werewolf. So with that in mind,
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what do you think of the section?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Watching this all the way through for the first time,
I was a little bit disappointed because, you know, everyone
talks about how he's supposed to have like this great transformation.
You don't get to actually see his face transform. You
have to see his legs transformed before the big reveal.
So I just felt like that part was a little off.
But yes, I do get the whole idea that maybe
he's not really transforming into a full fledged wolf, because again,
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it's his ID. It's the stuff that we pat down
to maintain ourselves in society, and it is rather interesting
that we're starting to see this character come out of
him where he's ripping up citizens and basically doing everything
that we tell ourselves not to do to be part
of society. I think the only thing that kind of
throws me off is I'm kind of used to more
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modern transformations, So just seeing like the time lapse stuff happen,
and then he has these like weird boots that he's
wearing in lieu of his feet, it looked weird.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
He's got hobbit shoes on.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, Hobbit shoes, right right.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I do agree it's no America Werewolf of London. I mean,
you know, when we covered that film in our podcast,
we couldn't stop talking about how cool that transformation was.
But I think for its time, the transformation, although this
first time around we only see the feet, I still
think it's really well done. I think it was pretty
cutting edge or bleeding edge if you will, for its time.
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What do you think, cyber.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, I don't know about bleeding edge, but okay, anyways,
I think that the sequence, being the first full transformation
we see of the wolf man, I have to agree
with Matt. How they just went to the legs and
showed it transforming was kind of hilarious, Like it didn't
show his head, it just showed his legs, and I
was kind of like, hmm, I wonder if it was
too expensive to show it time lapsing his face at
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the time, and that's why they went with the legs
because it was less to do. Because I mean, they
had a really great special effects makeup guy that did
the makeup for this film, and I think that, you know,
for its time, it.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Was really well done.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean the look, the stance where his foots are
up like he's like walking on his toes. I think
he looks so cool, and this one actually looks pretty
decent for being over eighty years old. I think it
was kind of funny too, that he turns to the
wolf man, and yet throughout the whole entire film we
never once see a single shot of the full moon,
which is a trope in majority of werewolf films after
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this film came out, a full moon is what causes
a person to turn into the werewolf. But I think
that at the same time, this first kill is kind
of like your authentic off kill kind of sequets, kind
of like with you know, Jenny, before we hear a screaming,
but we don't really see her get killed. We just
know that she gets her throat ripped out. I think
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if we had actually had seen a kill in this film,
I think it would have made the film even more
interesting and more fun. But still I think that the
mystery is amazing and it moves it along very well,
and it's a great segue into what's to come next.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I have to agree with you as far as why
they probably didn't shoot the face because it took so
long to get that makeup on him. It's like six
hours to turn him into the wolf Man. Between the
shots that they did to do the transformation for the
legs to the transformation to the face, I think they
tripled the amount of time that they had to do that,
so they basically had to take that six hours, and
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I believe it took them the better part of seventeen
or nineteen hours to shoot that whole sequence of him
slowly transferring into the wolf Man. So you had it
spot on with that, Joey, what are your thoughts about
the transformation in the scene as a whole.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Weak sauce we don't see it until one of the sequels.
There's no wolf Man sequels, whether it's just wolf Man
two or the Return of the wolf Man, they're all
paired with somebody else. You're in House of Dracula or
Wolfman meets Frank it Stein, Abbot Costello then I think
maybe more than once. We get the facial transformation that
people remember, and I think a lot of people they
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go back and watch this, so they watch it for
the first time. They don't realize, Oh, they don't show
that in this one. Did I miss it? So, yeah,
it sucks. It's just feet.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, no, we get the face and reverse.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, we do. At the end, you get the face
and reverse. It's not as good as we see in
the later films. But I'm not a foot guy. Contrary
to popular belief, right, especially Harry Gross feet like that.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, we know how you feel about hobbits, so you
don't have to go there. We've all heard about you
your habbit hating. But I still think it was pretty
cutting edge. I mean, if you think about it, the
Wolfman's one of the few characters there's no relort before
we start to see the universal monsters. For a wolf man,
there's were wolf's. So this is the first time we're
going to encounter this, I think. And I still thought
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it was pretty well done and I liked it, and
I can understand why they probably didn't do it a lot. Regardless.
Larry awakes the next day, not remembering the events from
the night before. He discovers his bedroom window only open,
large muddy paw prints scattered throughout the room, and upon
his chest the mark of the pentagram. Larry, now convinced
that he is a werewolf, seeks counsel from the visiting
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doctor Lloyd, who dismisses the notion that a man can
physically be a werewolf. Upon his assurance, Larry leaves, allowing
Doctor Lloyd to confide to Sir John that Larry has
received the shock and has caused a definite psychic maladjustment or,
in his words, your son is a sick man. Due
to the sickness, he suggests that Sir Lloyd send Larry
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way to allow him to heal from this ordeal. Sir
Lloyd dismisses this as nonsense and states that the best
thing for Larry to do is to stay at the
Castle Talbot to recover. Meanwhile, the local authorities set traps
in the forest and set out hunting parties to capture
the creature that is terrorizing the village. Cyber, how do
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you feel about Larry's acceptance of being the wolfman?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I mean, basically them trying to make him seem like
he's losing his mind is very common for that time frame,
you know, the early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds. They
try to play at office. There's something mentally rang with them.
They're imagining this. It's all in their head.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
That boy right, yeah, hey boy right.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So I think that Larry's trying to tell him, hey,
no things are happening that are weird. Man, you're not
understanding this. And you know, they're just like ah, blah blah,
it's on your head. And Larry learning stuff and talking
to different people, he's realizing that these things are coming
true and he's like worried as hell. Them saying that
he's crazy is not helping him out. So I think
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Lad Shady Junior does a great job slowly kind of
losing his mind over this. And I think that they
do a great job there getting into his skin, getting
under getting into his mind and stuff like that. And
laun Chaney does a great job of expressing that and
giving a great performance and really you know, shines and
why he is the wolf Man and why he'll always
be the wolf Man because he played the character so well.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
All right, Well, Joey, the million dollar question is Larry
the wolf Man or is he just insane in the membrane.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I find it very interesting that his father mentioned something
about a family history of Talbot's having some kind of
condition similar to Larry's. Did anybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Pick up on that? I did, And I was kind
of sad that they didn't expand on that. It's such
a fleeting statement.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's just a throwaway comment.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Did they ever explain what happened to Larry's mom?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Is that a loose end or your mom? You know,
was in the nuthouse.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
And they didn't explain anything about his older brother. He
just said he's dead, kind of implied that maybe he
was attacked by a wolf previously. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But I also like how the dad simply looks at
him when he's like, oh, no, I know what it did.
He's like, well, do you think they're gonna to come
into Talbot Castle and take you? I think not, D
mean anything these peasants can do about it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
The whole aristocrat thing does kind of make me question
my next thought, and that is, uh, the doctor himself
and the fact that oh, well, just let Larry rest.
I mean, we're talking about England here, we're in the
middle of Wales, okay. And what England was famous for
doing was taking the criminally insane and the insane and
throwing them in the same location of the sanitarium and
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just keep them locked up and give them lots of
drugs and let them work out their problems, maybe have
some kind of like I don't know, both to throw
them on and send them down to some little island
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Who knows.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Didn't they call that place Ireland?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
No, I was on the Pacific Island specific It's it's
it's the other island, big island.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Okay, maybe they've found oh funny, but no.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Their answer was always throw them in a sanitarium. And
I just found it funny that this doctor's like, no,
just let him stay here, let him get plenty of rest.
I don't know. It made a little difficult for me
to swallow this guy that cares about Larry Talbot and
the fact that maybe he just got paid off by
Talbot's dad saying, you know what, no one's letting my
son leave. I mean, case in point, in a future
scene where you find that John Talbot literally keeps his
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kid wrapped up in his room.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
My son is an aristocrat, and if you're implying that
he may have murdered a man, he just needs to
sleep it off.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Good day.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I think we even get a little bit of
that back at the church when they're talking smack about
Larry a little bit and like, oh, you shouldn't be
saying such things, and there they are, so you best
be quiet. Not only is he taking Talbot Castle, but
the town is his. You know, these are your people.
Walk amongst them, get to know them. They run the town.
It's their town. These people are allowed to live among them.
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But in the end everybody answers to the Talbots. I
think that that's to take away from this. For the
most part, Talbot justice. They are the burger Master, Maister Burgers. Yes,
there was no burger Master. If only Burger King had
been in play at this point, they might have had
somebody that could solve this crime. But regardless. The following night,
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Larry turns into a werewolf again and is caught in
one of the traps. Malayva uses a spell to temporarily
change him back to a human form, allowing him to
free himself before a hunting party finds him. Now convinced
he is a werewolf. A distraught Larry decides to leave town.
He goes to Gwen's home to let her know that
he is leaving. When he sees a pentagram on her palm,
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he runs away in haste to protect her. He arrives
at Castle Talbot and informs his father that he is
a werewolf. He then proceeds to confess to the killings
of Bella and the villager, but his father believes he
is delusional. He ties Larry to a chair to prove
to him that he is not a werewolf, and leaves
to join the hunt. When the moon rises, Larry transforms again,
breaking free of his restraints, begins to stock Gwen. He
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discovers her in the woods and proceeds to attack her.
Sir John comes upon the scene and not recognizing the werewolf,
as the son fights, and bludgeons him over the head
with larry silverheaded cane. The blow has killed the werewolf
and he slumps to the ground. Malava arrives and again
chance the reversal spell Sir John watches in horror as
the dead werewolf transforms into Larry's human corpse. The rest
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of the hunting party arrives finding Larry dead on the
ground and determines he lost his life defending Gwen. All right, Matthew,
what do you think about this end sequence?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
It was neat. I mean, the reverse transformation was kind
of cool to see at the end of the movie
there where you get to actually see his face going
back to Larry Talbot.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I thought that was kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I thought the ending was kind of rushed, and maybe
that's because, you know, back in that time, movies were
only like an hour and ten an hour and five
minutes long, as we've seen from Frankenstein and even our
seventy fifth episode of Duck Soup, they were much shorter movies,
and it felt kind of like they were trying to
rush to the ending. But it was neat to see
the full wolfman walking around in the woods.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh right, well, Joey, what are your thoughts about the
end of the movie.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
My son thinks he's transforming, and so I'm gonna just
tie him to a chair, and I blame the Gypsies
and they're gypsy space lasers.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Poo poo poo, poo pooh.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I thought he was gonna start to staying. He's either
just at the counter or autobots. When he's talked about
the transform me.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
We're gonna get my son of litter Box. I think
he really did think his son was crazy until he
saw it for himself and doesn't want to Sully his
own name, and he's saying his son was a hero.
His son wasn't the villain per se. He was cursed,
and that's how he's always portrayed. It's like, it's the
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tragedy of Larry Talbot in the Curse of the Werewolf.
But as we find out, Larry's not dead, and it's
like poorly explained in sequels, but we're not there yet. Instead,
we finally get to see a reverse transformation. Who knows,
maybe they shot a transformation it just looked like shit
and went back and they're like, eh, let's show the
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one that worked out better later, and then the movie's over.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
The end.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, these movies tend to have a little bit of
an abrupt ending, I've noticed, but I guess they just
don't need much closer. The wolf man's dead and uh,
you know, of course, the aristocratic son. There's no way
he could have done it. He's the hero. Nothing to
see here, Move al on, Move along so cyber. What
do you think.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I love the ending. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
A lot of these films back in this time they
did end very abruptly because they just wanted to get
right to the point. No prologue, no epilogue, nothing like that.
Even though it ends abruptly, it's still got everything pretty
much out there that he goes cursed, learning to deal
with it, trying to figure it out, trying to leave town.
You know, he's distraught. Fortunately he transforms again, he goes
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after Gwen. He's dead, he's done. That's it, and that's
the end of the movie. I think some interesting things
about this seq is that Evelyn Anchors that played Gwen,
she was actually always having a rough time on set
because when Launchet and Junior would get into full costume,
he would sneak up and scare her senseless. So a
lot of the fear you see on her face in
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certain scenes were was the real fear. Something else that
I thought was kind of interesting about this end sequence
is where Claude Rains is beating John to kill him
because he doesn't realize it's the sun. That scene, they
were using some sort of fog machine to make it
look like it was foggy out in that swampy area,
and the chemical that they were using in it had
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some kind of side effects sometimes, and Evelyn had to
lay down after she faints and that sequence, and when
she was laying down on the floor with that fog
stuff going, it actually made her really pass out. And
so when they reset to change the scene, she didn't
pop up, and they're like, where'd Evelyn go? They actually
had to pull her up because she was still unconscious
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from the chemical that was in that she got. Yeah,
there you go, Yeah, she got Cosby. But I think
that the end of the film was just like the
beginning when he takes out Bella at the beginning of
the film, it's pretty much exactly what happens to bell
to help. It's Delarry because unfortunately he got that curse.
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Even though it, you know, it's very quick, I still
think it gets the message across and it is really fun,
really enjoyable. I thought Claude Rains did a great job too,
especially after he realizes that it's his son really was
a werewolf and that you know, he really wasn't mentally ill.
Think that all the acting in this film was very
genuine and seemed really sincere, and I really enjoyed it.
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I think it ends very well.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
All Right, Well, that's our movie, gentlemen, and I think
with that it's time for us to transform from commentators
to critics. So let's move on to the death clock.
So Cyber, since you're our guest, i'll ask you, is
the woof Man worth taking an hour and ten minutes
off of your death clock?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I absolutely love this movie. I think it's fantastic. I
think with its short run time, it is very entertaining,
very enjoyable, and just a really great classic that I
think everyone should watch because it really is a great
piece of cinema and just is a really enjoyable film.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
All right, joy, How about you? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
No?
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I think it started a genre, and I think it
has this place in history. But unless you're looking to
kind of like explore those roots and just get familiar
with the entire universal Monsters catalog, I think it's worth
skipping because it's been outdone. It inspired everything that came
after it, that's a Wolfman movie or a weir Wolf movie,
but it's been done way better since then.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
All right, Matthew thoughts, I took a lot of thought
in how I wanted to say yes or no, and
I'm gonna go with yes. Like Joey had said, it
is a genre movie that establishes the genre.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It sets the lore.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
For how we view Wolfman films. We get the rules,
we get the idea of what the Wolfman is, the
whole tapping into an internal beast. But I think the
biggest point of why you should watch this movies because
it is a snapshot in time as to what filming
was like for classic horror movies back in the nineteen
thirties and forties. From a cinematic standpoint, it's something that
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everyone should at least experience and check out. So yeah,
I would say take the time off your desk clock
and check it out.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I too, am going to agree with Matthew. I think yes,
you should go ahead and take the time to watch this.
It's one of the classic universal monsters to start with.
I like it just because it's the wolf Man and
not necessarily a where wolf witch. Later on, we're just
going to see where Wolf's as a whole area transforms
into some form of, if not a complete wolf in itself,
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some kind of human hybrid wolf that doesn't look like
a wolf man, so I enjoyed that about it. Plus,
I thought the story was pretty decent in this one,
because some of the stories in these classic universal of
one are a little rougher than others. I don't know
if it's the editing or the writing or things just
getting dropped to the floor because some executive didn't like
it and wanted it reworked. But this one, I thought
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the story was pretty decent, So it's definitely worth watching,
I think. And with that, I think Matthew's talk about
a little feedback here. They've got to hear what we
thought about it. Now, Where can people give us feedback
about the podcast itself?
Speaker 5 (47:25):
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Speaker 2 (47:44):
All right, well, gentlemen, we're not quite done. Now that
we've reviewed the movie and we've talked about whether we
think it's worth your death, clock, we have one more thing.
We need to answer. Normally, we would ask you, you know,
what have you been watching, but we're gonna skip that
since we're in our Halloween section and tonight, I would
like to know what is your favorite interpretation of a
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werewolf or wolfman movie Cyber Again, we'll start with you
as the guest.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Okay, so my favorite werewolf interpretation or wolfman honestly absolutely
love this version. I think it's hilarious and it's gonna
shock a lot of people, probably because it's not live action,
it's animated. Is the Werewolf in a Hotel Transylvania voice
by Steve ASMI absolutely loved this version. I think it's
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absolutely fantastic. Cracks me the hell up every time I
watch it. And the fact that he is almost like
a stay at home dad is absolutely hilarious. And he's
got like thirty pups and he's tried to be the wolfman,
but yet he's really not good at it.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
He's basically just like a dad.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's a really fantastic version, great comedy, great voice over.
So yeah, I'll have to say my favorite interpretation or
werewolf were wolfman is the Wolfman from the Great Hotel Transylvania.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, I'm going I say, that's a great call. I
enjoyed that one as well, Joey. Being a horror ficiano,
I'm very excited to hear what you have to say.
What's your favorite wolfman or werewolf movie?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Werewolf the Last Warrior for the Nintendo Entertainment System, which
came out in North America in nineteen ninety You transform
into a werewolf with swords for arms.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Nice. I didn't see that one coming, but very nice.
All right, Matthew, how about you?
Speaker 5 (49:27):
Sorry, I'm just I'm taking it back that our movie
Horror Aficionado is going with a video game, and our
video game guy isn't here.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
I drew pictures of my interpretation of that character. I
lost them, but like literally I was drawing that on
a notepad when I.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Was a kid.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Gotcha? All right? Well?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
My favorite werewolf slash wolf man, I think is from
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's the movie Dog.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Soldiers set in the Scottish Highlands and there's sas soldiers
who are training and they run into a pack of
wool Is that are living on a farm, and it
is such a really great movie. The transformations in that
movie are phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
The wolves themselves.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Look, I would say kind of like up there with Underworld,
where you have like the spipedal were wolf.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
It's like super hulking and really big.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
It's probably my favorite version of a were wolf movie.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
All right, I'm gonna have to check that one out.
I don't think i've ever seen it so for myself, Matthew.
Much like I stole your thunder earlier with Back to the Future,
you stole mine because I was just gonna say the
monster Squad because the wolf Man's gotten ards and I'm
still standing by it regardless. All Right, Well, Cyber, I
want to thank you for being part of our Halloween
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Whole review month. Can you let our listeners know where
they can find more of your howling into the Night?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Well, of course I can thank you guys for having
me for this great two episode amazing movie reviews here
and yeah, if you enjoy me here on MAM Reviews podcast,
you can check out my solo content. You'll find it
under Cybernate Shark on YouTube, TikTok x, Facebook, Instagram, Patreon,
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many places you can find me. I'm also a part
of the podcast called the MCU's Bleeding Edge as well,
and you can find us on YouTube and on Spotify
as well in podcast form. Every week we have a
couple episodes we've put out for the mc liitting Edge,
and then I put out my content regular two every week.
So yeah, if you enjoyed me here, definitely go check
that stuff out. You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well again, in everybody, go check out cyber He's definitely
very knowledgeable about movies. We don't call him the Cyberpedia
for no reason at all, So definitely go check out
his stuff. You'll always learn something new. And as for us,
I just want to thank you for listening to the
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, Welcome to the Middle Age Movies Podcast. Three guys saying,
even a man who is pure of heart and says
this prayers by night may become a woolf when the
wolf fame blooms and the autumn moon is bright. My
name is Tim and my podcasting partners are Matt Joey
joining us tonight fresh from his full moon. Cut your
sidewalk about and might I say what big guys you
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have from the Cybernetic Shark nepsc use bleedy eds YouTube channels,
It's cyber say Hello, cyber.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Hello, salutations, folks. How we're doing great to be here?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right, Joey, why don't you tell us what we're
seeing in the crystal ball tonight?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Tonight we are watching the nineteen forty one movie The Wolfman,
Number one hundred and forty three from the book of
one thousand and one Movies You Should Watch Before You Die,
written by Kurt Sidemack, directed by George Wagner and starring
Claude Rains, Warren William, Ralph Bellamy, Lon Chaney Junior, and
Evelyn Hunkers.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
All right, guys, Well, since Matt seems to have a
problem doing were wolf movies, I don't know, maybe we're
cutting a little close to the skin. I'm going to
take the helm this evening, so I will begin the
normal questioning cyber. When was the first time you watched
The Wolfman?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Ugh?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The first time I watched The wolf Man was probably
right around the time it got re released on VHS.
I remember going to the video store around this time
of the year, the October season, and I was walking
down the horror section and I noticed this film called
The wolf Man, and I was like, Eh, what is
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this film? And I remember looking at it and going
I recognized the name of Lon Chaney Junior. And I
always had a big thing for were wolves. I've always
loved to were wolves. And I remember, you know, picking
it up and showed it to my mom and she
were going, yeah, that's one of the universal horror monster
classic that's a great film. You got to see it.
And so she rented it and we watched it after
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finishing it. That first time, I was just like, this
is a masterpiece because I had seen too many of
the universal classic films at that time, so this was
like one of the first ones I had ever seen.
It just blew me away. I was like, Wow, this
was oppressive for nineteen forty one. The graphics, the look,
everything about it was just so fun. I think it
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was a really great first experience. Even after thirty years
later rewatching it, it still holds up and is just
still such an amazing film.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh that's a really great trip down memory lane. So Matthew,
since you apparently aren't breaking out hair and fang tonight,
why don't you tell us when you first watched The
wolf Man?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
All right, So this is gonna be a hot take
for all of our listeners down under. I have never
actually watched The Wolfman all the way through. I've only
seen like little snippets of the classic sequence where he's
running up to the tree limbs and stuff. But I
think my biggest first watch for a Wolfman esque movie
was Abbott Costella Meat Frankansign and that was the first
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time I was introduced to the Larry Talbot Wolfman. So
I'm actually going into this with some fresh perspective because
I've never actually watched this movie all the way through,
so I'm kind of excited to talk to you guys
about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Excellent, Joey, how about you? When was the first time
you watch it?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I imagine I saw it on television, but I literally
can't remember when. I was probably a kid, and it
was probably Halloween time and they were probably showing clips
of it on some other special about horror movies that
I was watching.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't recall.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Watching it from beginning to end until like the twenty
first century, I think what it came out on DVD.
Much more recently, I've watched parts of it when it's
aired on s FINGOULI, which is it seems like every year.
I could not tell you exactly when I watched this
for the first time.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know, Okay, Well, I myself kind of the
same as Matthew. I think my first encounter was the Abacastello.
That's how I met a lot of my universal monsters.
But much like our book of one thousand and one
movies that we're trying to, you know, slowly tick off
and see each one of them. As I've stated before,
I'm trying to slowly tick off all the universal monster films.
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So this is really a first viewing of this film
for me as well. So I'm glad to be able
to sit down and watch it discuss it with the
rest of you. I'm very excited. So with that being said,
I think we're going to move on to our synopsis.
And Matthew, since you seem to have enough guts to
show up this evening for this scary film, I'm going
to put you on the hot seat as I always do,
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and tonight what I'd like you to do is I'd
like you to read the synopsis as an old British
gypsy recounting the curse Ah British gypsy.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Okay, well, here's what I can do for you. I
try to do a little bit of English gypsy, but
it's gonna probably be romani. So in a many a
distant village there exists the legend of the werewolf or
the Wolfman, a strange, mortal man with the heron fangs
of an unearthly beast whose hideous howl is the dirge
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of death. But this is no legend but a cautionary tale,
for this is the reality in lan Welly, as the
local gypsies insist a werewolf is among them it has
begun to kill during the full moon. These killings strangely
coincide with the arrival of Larry Talbot, who, after eighteen
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years abroad, has returned to take over his family estate.
While out one evening with Gwn Corneliff and her friend
Jinny Williams, Ginny is attacked by what Larry believes to
be a wolf and during the attack is bitten before
killing the animal. When authorities arrived at the scene, it
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is discovered that Ginny is dead, along with the local gypsy,
Bella Bella. Now Larry questions what actually happened that night,
as he has no bite marks. The following day, rumors
spread that Bella was in fact the werewolf and with
his final bite, transferred the curse to Larry, who is
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now doomed, doomed to take his place.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Nice, nicely done way to get into the character.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Think that just sounds like the plot to The Hangover.
I don't remember anything, bitten, crazy, I got.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
This weird tattoo on my face. What's your say? What's
my saying?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Maybe it's loosely based on the wolf van.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, I think we cracked the coat of it's all
based on the Wolfman. Strangely enough, well, let's go ahead
and die right into our story here, gentlemen, so if
you're ready. Due to the unexpected death of his older brother,
Larry Talbot returns to his ancestral home to Talbot Castle
and land, Wellie, Wales, after eighteen years abroad in America.
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He must now reconcile with his strange father, Sir John Talbot,
and prepared to take over as head of the Talbot estate.
While helping his father set up a new telescope, Larry
spies Gwen Kamleif getting ready in her bedroom window. Infatuated
with Gwen, Larry visits the antique shop to ask her out,
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under the guise of buying specific earrings he's seen on
her dressing table. Gwen, confused by the request, fends off
his requests for a date. Undeterred, Larry purchases a unique
walking stick decorating with a silver wolf's head and a pentagram.
Upon leaving, Larry declares that he will be back that
evening to pick her up for their date. Cyber, what
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it's your thoughts on the beginning of this film?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I love the beginning montage showing each of the actors
and actresses who are in the film.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I love how we get right into the story.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Death happens in the family got to come back to
the old country basically, and you know, take your business.
At the same time, they end up finding a love
interest and try to get a date with them. And
I don't know what it is about Lawn Cheney Jr.
But just his presence and how he act in that
whole situation I think was just so fun and he
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just seems so lawless at doing it and trying to
ask her out. It just seemed like there was a
natural attraction there. I just thought that Lawn did such
a great job of bringing that to life and give
us such a great interesting take on John Talbot and
kind of giving you that first real taste of who
John Talot is. If you think about it. He's kind
of like a con man almost a little bit. He's
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definitely somebody that can persuade people, and as we see
in that sequence there, he's able to, you know, kind
of persuade her and getting her to go out with him.
But the whole thing that he's like spying through the
telescope matter was you know, totally like creepy. Yeah, I
mean exactly what you would expect a guy being a
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guy is kind of what it felt like. And it
was fun seeing that because you don't see that very
often in movies these days.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
But I think this is a really great beginning to
the film.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean we get some really great comedy fill a
little bit of a romance fill along with that horror
and kind of thriller. Thought process, really great start to
the film and really well done. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think I have to counter you a little bit, though.
I think we still get to see a bit of
voyeurism even in today's films. The film that comes to
mind is the one we just recently did a review on,
which was Back to the Future. We got a little
George McFly action there, you know, where he's peeping through
the windows. So it still happens, but I don't think
quite to the degree that we're getting here.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I mean that was a Telesco for astronomy, not a
pair of binoculars.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think he cranks the
creepiness up to about a thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
If she would have yawned, he could have examined the
fillings in her molars.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And her acceptance of it. She just seemed to accept
it far too well. I thought, but man, what did
you think? Man?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I totally agree with you. He was totally throwing out
George McFly creeper vibes. I mean I literally was gonna
bring up George McFly. You cut me off, man, way
to head me off at the borgo pass.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Great minds, Matthew, great minds.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yes, I do think he was thrown out some very
creeper vibes. But yet when he does show up, I
think it gives him a little extra confidence because when
he's talking to her, as our good friend Rick would say,
he has riz. I believe it is the term that
Rick would say, and the fact that he's trying to
impress her or you know, show her some kind of
cavalier attitude. From a modern viewpoint, it came off a
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little odd for me. My whole mind just thinks creeper.
And the other thing that I wanted to bring up
Claude Rains. So Claude Rains, he's got charisma. I gotta
say he did a great job in this movie. You
get the feeling that he knows how to play a
eldered statesman kind of father. But looking at him compared
to Larry Talbot, I felt as though they looked very
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close in age, almost like Harrison Ford and Sean Connery
were close in age in real life when they filmed
The Last Crusade. I felt the same way between Larry
Talbot and John Talbot, like the actors were kind of
close in age by appearance.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'd have to agree with that. I think that they
looked fairly close in age two when I watch it,
and I don't think it helps that Lon is so
much taller. He's like six foot one or something. I mean,
he's a really big dude compared to I would say Claude,
who's probably more five to six I'm guessing, so there
was definite high difference, which is not normal in the family,
but I guess even in Lawn's family he was taller
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than his father as well. But it definitely made it
harder to watch because it didn't seem like there was
that much age difference versus again, going back to the
Back to the Future one, where a lot of those
actors were within a couple of years of each other,
but they did such a great job in the makeup.
They appear to be far more further part in age. Joey,
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what are your thoughts on the beginning of the film.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, Larry Talbot's got more than creeper vibes. He's got
big d energy. He knows this woman's taken, and he's
just he's not feeling the vibes that she's done looking.
And what comes to mind is every time, at the
end of every episode of Law and Order, especially if
my wife's in the room, I read that name on
the screen backwards and I say wolf Dick. There's a
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little bit of theme in that. This is the animal
inside Larry before he ever gets bitten by a werewolf.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Done.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And yeah, he might have been on an episode of
Long Order if she wouldn't have been interested. I think
he was still gonna pursue her. I like it Larry
very much. He's also a giant. His mother's Amazon. Because
his dad's a shrimp. You could argue there might have
been some you know, given the time period Larry grew
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up drinking milk. Dad just sad bread and water. I
don't know, but completely not buying that this is his
dad is literally confusing. I'm not gonna shit on Claude Rains.
He's the better actor of the two. Really, lawn Chaney
Junior's been riding his father's coattails this whole fucking career
in his life.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
So just FYI, forget guys.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Claude Rains was five to seven and lawn Chaney Junior
was six foot twopark. Lawn Cheney Senior was five to
seven as well, so their heights wise is actually acurate
to the actual son bothered duo. Now, Claude Rains is
seventeen years older than lawn Chaney Junior, so he could
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have been the.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
High school baby.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That guy's well preserved.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Then Larry's Talbot had an older brother, so second high.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
School baby junior high school baby.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, they could only been a year's difference between them.
Older is older, right, It only takes ten months to
make the difference nine if you're really, you know, perfectly
on top of it. What do they call that Irish twins?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Sir John Talbot had that dog in him too, there
you go. Yeah, as Suso's nuts drop, he used.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Them well and apparently those nuts paid off because Larry
arrives that evening to Gwen's residence to pick her up
for their date. Gwen, now wearing the earrings Larry inquired
about earlier, agrees to go out with him, but only
if they go with her friend Jenny Williams to have
their fortunes told at the local gypsy camp. Larry and
Gwen go for a walk around the camp as Jenny
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has her fortune told by the Romanian fortune teller Bella. First,
as he examines her hand, he sees a pentagram and
frantically sends her away. Jenny, frightened, flees into the night
and is soon heard screaming in the forest. Larry rushes
to her aid and finds a wolf attacking her next
to a tree. Larry struggles with the wolf and has
bitten in the chest, before overtaking the creature and beating
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it to death with his new walking stick before staggering away.
Gwen finds Larry collapsed in the forest and convinces Melva,
a local gypsy passing by to his sister and bringing
Larry back to the Talbot cassel Matt, what are your
thoughts about this epic battle between man and wolf?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, the epic raging battle that took place between a
puppet dog and Claude Rains. I guess say it was
a cool effect. He was able to defeat the wolf
with the silver cane with the pentagram on it. It
shows that the establishment of silver in the death of
a werewolf. It's on a studio set, so you have
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the classic man made trees and stuff, so it was
kind of a neat effect for the nineteen forties. I
thought it was entertaining. I wasn't expecting like this huge
brawl that you would see between like the See You
with the Hulk and Captain America.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I thought you were gonna go with c versus Andres
versus versus Jeff.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
And I think Cyber can totally take them both.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Cyber got any thoughts in that or you know the
segment of the movie.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh thank you, thank you, sir any who, this is
a really fantastic part. I love this part so much
because we get the all great action sequence with the
puppet dog, and as kind of it's been mentioned a
little bit, you know, it definitely looks like a puppet dog.
But at the same time, I think for nineteen forty one,
it looked pretty decent, especially with the production value that
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they had for this film. For its time, it had
a pretty decent production value, so I think that, you know,
majority of the sets and everything that were on this
film were actually done pretty well. Compared to other Universal
Wantster films, some of them were a lot cheaper because
they didn't have the money to do it because at
the time when they were being filmed, great depression was
setting in. So I feel that definitely the set pieces
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on this especially that that.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Kane was really cool looking.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I loved the silver doghead look, and that fight with
the wolf and Laon Cheney Junior is just epic.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Lawn Cheney did a great job.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'm making a look as realistic as possible, and even
though you knew that he was taking out the world,
he didn't have to fully see it to understand that,
and I thought that was really great directing. But that
whole set there is really done well. We get Bella
for the first time, we get to see him, which
is really awesome. He plays that gypsy character so well.
Bella Legosi always played his characters well. I mean, even
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though all of them kind of had very much a
lot of similarities, he still was always just so fantastic
and fun to watch because he tried to be a perfectionist,
but he didn't really do that. He actually he was
pretty like clumsy a lot of time, and it came
off so fun and just fun acting. Hence why he
was so perfect for the ed Wood films. He just
was that great of an actor. I thought this performance,
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says the Little Gypsy, the very small part it was,
It's still I was athlete fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I think it's interesting too that, you know, Bela Lagosi
had such a small part because he really campaigned hard
to want to be the Wolfman, but he just didn't
get the part. They really wanted to give it to
the Lawn Cheney Junior. So but it does give us
a film later with the two of them in it,
So we'll get the actual Dracula and the wolf Man,
I believe together and a film later on down the
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road here with the two of them. So it worked
out well. Joy any thoughts this part of the film.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I thought the fake wolf looked pretty good. I think
what everybody's gonna be asking themselves later is like, why
doesn't Lon Cheney Junior transform into a actual wolf like wolf?
Why is he bipedal and the other guy was a wolf?
I don't think it looked as fake as like say
the raccoon attacking Will Ferrell and Elf. They just walk
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right up to the edge of being comical, and maybe
it looks worse than four K. I didn't get to
watch this one in high definition, so I don't know
how bad it really looked. There's no one behind the
scenes pictures of the wolf prop. I thought it was
pretty decent, but it certainly doesn't lead to consistency.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I think to answer your question, I think the
common theory with this one is that when you first
get bitten, you don't fully transform into a where wolf.
You become a wolf man first, and the longer you
carry the curse, the more you transfer from being a
wolf man into a werewolf proper, which turns you into
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a full fledged wolf at that point. That's at least
the common theme I get from the debates that go
on about that.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Where are these debates on Reddit?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
They're just all over place on the internet. Man, Just
go go start digging, go start looking for this stuff,
because people talk about this movie, and that's one of
the big things. I seen several different ones. I've read
it wherever else. You know, we just type in why
was one you know a wolf man. The other one
was a bipedal, and you're gonna find it. It'll be
out there, I mean, and I shouldn't say it's great
to base. It's just threads with ten fifteen people talking
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about it and then that threat it ends and you'll
find it somewhere else and a bunch of people bringing
up the same question over and over. But it's still
being an ass that's still being talked about. Probably not
as much as more modern films, of course, because these
are much older and a lot of people you know,
unfortunately just don't give a shit. But the ones that do,
they're still out there discussing it, and they're discussing the
history of these movies. They're discussing what is the rules
of the were wolf and where did some of these
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rules stem from? Even though you know where wolves have
been in lore for hundreds of years, it has changed
in these universal films did their part on starting to
establish a lot of the common things that we know,
like whereof can only die of silver? Things like that,
So that's why they have silver cane in this is
the only weapon that they have that can kill the
were wolf. Even though there's a mention several times of
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silver bullets, nobody really has one, and they almost say
it out of the corner their mouth, like, oh, you know,
these bulls are doing good, we'd have to have a
silver bull, you know, because they think it's old, just
a bunch of bs. So it's it's interesting in how
they start to establish this realm, and then other movies
will pick it up later and they'll more lidi down
the line, not only with the wolf Man, both Dracula
and other characters.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I think you nailed it with the low and the rules.
I think the universal horror movies are drawing from books
or other lore that they want to. They're picking and choosing.
But then this becomes the norm for decades.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, and I think again some people built on that
after the fact. These days there's so many movies where
people are so dedicated to them. They'll have entire wikis
that this is what this movie is, and this is
the rules of it and everything like that. Unlike over
here where this happens, that's not really really, you know,
there begins with arguments on what's real and what's not,
and what can kill these monsters and what affects them
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and so on and so forth. But it's it's just
interesting how the fandom really will lock into one particular
movie and that becomes the gospel of how these things work,
while another one will lock into another one, and then
it just starts all these fun conversations as to you know,
what's really the lore and what's not. And add into
role playing games, you know, dungeons, dragons, things like that.
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Now you're adding in a whole other level on top
of that on the rules of how these creatures interact
in the human realm.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I always follow the guidelines of the famous nineteen eighties
gooty esque movie Monster Squad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The wolf man has nards yards. I believe you may
be correct that is the only rule to wear welf
we need to know. But getting back to our film,
so the murder has happened and Larry has been brought
back to Talbot Castle in the evening. The police go
to investigate the scene and find Jenny's throat torn out
by some sort of large animal, But instead of finding
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the reported wolf next to her body, they find the
batter body of local gypsy Bela. Larry Talbot's wolf camee
lies close to the man's pummel body clearly the murder weapon.
Suspicion on Larry deepens when he cannot substantiate his story
of fighting a wolf since his chest wound miraculously heals overnight.
The issue is compounded by the fact that Larry and
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Gwen were not with Jenny when she was attacked, which
it's a suspicion of adult tree. Though Gwen's fiance Frank
Andrews believe in their innocence, Larry and Gwen become local pariahs.
So this definitely shows a sign of the times on
how this is being handled by the townsfolk. And I'd
be interested to see what you guys think. So, Joey,
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what's your thoughts about this?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Larry's a dirty dog and the fiance has become a cuck. Oh,
and then of course, let's don't forget the slutshaming. What
was up with the group of ladies just barging into
her dad's shop, just talking trash about her while she's
sitting in the parlor listening to it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
A lot of it was just.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Implied, but yeah, it was literally like a horde of Karen's.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, for sure, they were having none of it.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, they wanted to talk to the manager and even
had nothing to do with the fucking store. That's getting
worse than that.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Well, I don't think it was the masters or dad.
That's his store, right, they both worked there together.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So yeah, yeah, they're like, hey, we're gonna barge into
your place of business and talk about your daughter's morality
and how she was there when this other young lady
was killed, and why didn't she do anything about it?
What was she up to while this was all going on,
someone was getting their throat torn out? What was your
daughter's throat doing at that time when the other person's
throat was getting you know, malled?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Mmmmmm, she was having a delicate conversation with another person.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, man, would you like to would you like to
expand on that thought?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
No? Not really, uh no, But honestly, I think it
is neat because it taps into the id of the
human mind, and the script writer is definitely playing with
it all through here. Larry Talbot is forced to become
this hero to save his pseudo girlfriend's friend from an
evil wolf attack. We see the transformation from a wolf
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to bella. We get the establishment of the lore of
the werewolf right in these sequences, And yeah, It's definitely
shows what the times were like in the forties with
how people viewed other people. I mean, you set it
right off the bat, the suspected adultery. Clearly they don't
have any evidence that this woman was committing adultrey, but
yet they are quick to blame the witch hunters right
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out there. Boom.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I think I saw one of the ladies in the
back swing the scarlet letter.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
All I can say is, if you're going to wander
around with a strange man, you better have some champerones
with you, otherwise you're going to be the scourge of
the town. Cyber, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Obviously it's very ambiguous, this adultery thing in this film,
but I think in the film itself it's very loose
context and it cracks me up kind of that going
for a walk adultery is pretty funny in my opinion,
especially in today's standards, if you think about it, and
I think that you know, in this it was pretty
innocent and charming. Just was kind of funny that they
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become such pariahs in their town because of this walk
that they took after this unfortunate event where this woman
and this other person were killed. A little facto for
you guys, The actual wolf that Taxlon Cheney Jr. Is
actually his real German shepherd that he had at the
time time that they have put on a costume to
play the wolf when he gets attacked in that sequence.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
So I think that's kind of interesting little tidbit.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Also, the only surviving prop on this film is the
cane that he used in that scene to kill the wolf.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Which is awesome. Thank god that thing survived. It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, I think those are some pretty funny, interesting factoids.
But I think that this sequence really starts to get
you down into the nitty gritty of what is going
on with Larry Talby. He's unfortunately got this woman stuck
in kind of his delusion that they're starting to say,
you know, is this all in his head? Did he
really fight a wolf? Did he really kill a wolf?
Because when they find the two dead bodies, it's a
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woman and a man, it's not a wolf and a woman.
So it's kind of like, maybe he is going crazy.
Maybe this is kind of a maybe a kill of passion.
Maybe almost It plays out so well with this movie
being such a short film, only an hour and ten
minutes long. I love the pacing of this film. I
have to give them props for that, because there's a
a lot of films that they're just edited like crap.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Still, great section of the.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Film, really well done and really really fun and enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, I'd have to agree.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
If I could just interject one quick question to cy
So Cyber, you know we had talked about the women
showing up to the shop. Is it just me or
did anyone else get illusions of missus Kittner from the
World's Greatest film Jaws?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, I could see that all those women were such
classic tropes of how women were viewed at the time.
And I think that even thirty years later, when Jaws
came out, Kittner I felt was dressed still like she
was in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
So I totally could see that.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I actually have to ask a follo up question to
you on that, Matthew, Are you purely asking these Jaws
related questions to try to get back into why these
good graces since some of the members of this panel
did not watch Jaws until we did.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
The review, Maybe maybe not Maybe the twofold thing, because
I mean, he's got shark in his name.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So you know, okay, that's how you're going to disguise.
I don't go with it. I'm sure it has nothing
to do with trying to make points of Whitey. So
Larry the next day gets up and that tends a
local gypsy carnival. Bella's mother, Malova, reveals to Larry that
the wolf which bit him was Bella in the form
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of a werewolf. She informs Larry that he too, now
carries the curse and will become a werewolf due to
the bite he's sustained during the fight. She informs him
that silver is the only thing that could kill a
werewolf and presents him with a silver pentagram charm to
prevent his transformation. Uncertain whether to believe her, he instead
gives the charm to Gwen to protect her. That night,
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as the moon rises, Larry begins to sense his transformation
into a humanoid with highbred. Once the transformation is complete,
he prowls the village until he finds the local grave
digger in the cemetery finishing Jenny Williams grave, and attacks him.
The howling during the attack awikes the townsfolk, who discover
the murdered man and large wolf tracks leading away from
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the victim. Now, Matthew, I'm gonna let you double down
on your statement earlier of the id of the mind,
since one of the other popular beliefs is that maybe
he never was a were wolf, but just convinced himself
that he was a wolf man and that's why he
did not transform into the werewolf. So with that in mind,
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what do you think of the section?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Watching this all the way through for the first time,
I was a little bit disappointed because, you know, everyone
talks about how he's supposed to have like this great transformation.
You don't get to actually see his face transform. You
have to see his legs transformed before the big reveal.
So I just felt like that part was a little off.
But yes, I do get the whole idea that maybe
he's not really transforming into a full fledged wolf, because again,
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it's his ID. It's the stuff that we pat down
to maintain ourselves in society, and it is rather interesting
that we're starting to see this character come out of
him where he's ripping up citizens and basically doing everything
that we tell ourselves not to do to be part
of society. I think the only thing that kind of
throws me off is I'm kind of used to more
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modern transformations, So just seeing like the time lapse stuff happen,
and then he has these like weird boots that he's
wearing in lieu of his feet, it looked weird.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
He's got hobbit shoes on.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, Hobbit shoes, right right.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I do agree it's no America Werewolf of London. I mean,
you know, when we covered that film in our podcast,
we couldn't stop talking about how cool that transformation was.
But I think for its time, the transformation, although this
first time around we only see the feet, I still
think it's really well done. I think it was pretty
cutting edge or bleeding edge if you will, for its time.
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What do you think, cyber.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, I don't know about bleeding edge, but okay, anyways,
I think that the sequence, being the first full transformation
we see of the wolf man, I have to agree
with Matt. How they just went to the legs and
showed it transforming was kind of hilarious, Like it didn't
show his head, it just showed his legs, and I
was kind of like, hmm, I wonder if it was
too expensive to show it time lapsing his face at
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the time, and that's why they went with the legs
because it was less to do. Because I mean, they
had a really great special effects makeup guy that did
the makeup for this film, and I think that, you know,
for its time, it.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Was really well done.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean the look, the stance where his foots are
up like he's like walking on his toes. I think
he looks so cool, and this one actually looks pretty
decent for being over eighty years old. I think it
was kind of funny too, that he turns to the
wolf man, and yet throughout the whole entire film we
never once see a single shot of the full moon,
which is a trope in majority of werewolf films after
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this film came out, a full moon is what causes
a person to turn into the werewolf. But I think
that at the same time, this first kill is kind
of like your authentic off kill kind of sequets, kind
of like with you know, Jenny, before we hear a screaming,
but we don't really see her get killed. We just
know that she gets her throat ripped out. I think
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if we had actually had seen a kill in this film,
I think it would have made the film even more
interesting and more fun. But still I think that the
mystery is amazing and it moves it along very well,
and it's a great segue into what's to come next.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I have to agree with you as far as why
they probably didn't shoot the face because it took so
long to get that makeup on him. It's like six
hours to turn him into the wolf Man. Between the
shots that they did to do the transformation for the
legs to the transformation to the face, I think they
tripled the amount of time that they had to do that,
so they basically had to take that six hours, and
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I believe it took them the better part of seventeen
or nineteen hours to shoot that whole sequence of him
slowly transferring into the wolf Man. So you had it
spot on with that, Joey, what are your thoughts about
the transformation in the scene as a whole.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Weak sauce we don't see it until one of the sequels.
There's no wolf Man sequels, whether it's just wolf Man
two or the Return of the wolf Man, they're all
paired with somebody else. You're in House of Dracula or
Wolfman meets Frank it Stein, Abbot Costello then I think
maybe more than once. We get the facial transformation that
people remember, and I think a lot of people they
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go back and watch this, so they watch it for
the first time. They don't realize, Oh, they don't show
that in this one. Did I miss it? So, yeah,
it sucks. It's just feet.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, no, we get the face and reverse.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, we do. At the end, you get the face
and reverse. It's not as good as we see in
the later films. But I'm not a foot guy. Contrary
to popular belief, right, especially Harry Gross feet like that.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, we know how you feel about hobbits, so you
don't have to go there. We've all heard about you
your habbit hating. But I still think it was pretty
cutting edge. I mean, if you think about it, the
Wolfman's one of the few characters there's no relort before
we start to see the universal monsters. For a wolf man,
there's were wolf's. So this is the first time we're
going to encounter this, I think. And I still thought
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it was pretty well done and I liked it, and
I can understand why they probably didn't do it a lot. Regardless.
Larry awakes the next day, not remembering the events from
the night before. He discovers his bedroom window only open,
large muddy paw prints scattered throughout the room, and upon
his chest the mark of the pentagram. Larry, now convinced
that he is a werewolf, seeks counsel from the visiting
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doctor Lloyd, who dismisses the notion that a man can
physically be a werewolf. Upon his assurance, Larry leaves, allowing
Doctor Lloyd to confide to Sir John that Larry has
received the shock and has caused a definite psychic maladjustment or,
in his words, your son is a sick man. Due
to the sickness, he suggests that Sir Lloyd send Larry
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way to allow him to heal from this ordeal. Sir
Lloyd dismisses this as nonsense and states that the best
thing for Larry to do is to stay at the
Castle Talbot to recover. Meanwhile, the local authorities set traps
in the forest and set out hunting parties to capture
the creature that is terrorizing the village. Cyber, how do
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you feel about Larry's acceptance of being the wolfman?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I mean, basically them trying to make him seem like
he's losing his mind is very common for that time frame,
you know, the early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds. They
try to play at office. There's something mentally rang with them.
They're imagining this. It's all in their head.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
That boy right, yeah, hey boy right.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So I think that Larry's trying to tell him, hey,
no things are happening that are weird. Man, you're not
understanding this. And you know, they're just like ah, blah blah,
it's on your head. And Larry learning stuff and talking
to different people, he's realizing that these things are coming
true and he's like worried as hell. Them saying that
he's crazy is not helping him out. So I think
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Lad Shady Junior does a great job slowly kind of
losing his mind over this. And I think that they
do a great job there getting into his skin, getting
under getting into his mind and stuff like that. And
laun Chaney does a great job of expressing that and
giving a great performance and really you know, shines and
why he is the wolf Man and why he'll always
be the wolf Man because he played the character so well.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
All right, Well, Joey, the million dollar question is Larry
the wolf Man or is he just insane in the membrane.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I find it very interesting that his father mentioned something
about a family history of Talbot's having some kind of
condition similar to Larry's. Did anybody else.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Pick up on that? I did, And I was kind
of sad that they didn't expand on that. It's such
a fleeting statement.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's just a throwaway comment.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Did they ever explain what happened to Larry's mom?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Is that a loose end or your mom? You know,
was in the nuthouse.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
And they didn't explain anything about his older brother. He
just said he's dead, kind of implied that maybe he
was attacked by a wolf previously. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But I also like how the dad simply looks at
him when he's like, oh, no, I know what it did.
He's like, well, do you think they're gonna to come
into Talbot Castle and take you? I think not, D
mean anything these peasants can do about it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
The whole aristocrat thing does kind of make me question
my next thought, and that is, uh, the doctor himself
and the fact that oh, well, just let Larry rest.
I mean, we're talking about England here, we're in the
middle of Wales, okay. And what England was famous for
doing was taking the criminally insane and the insane and
throwing them in the same location of the sanitarium and
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just keep them locked up and give them lots of
drugs and let them work out their problems, maybe have
some kind of like I don't know, both to throw
them on and send them down to some little island
in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Who knows.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Didn't they call that place Ireland?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
No, I was on the Pacific Island specific It's it's
it's the other island, big island.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Okay, maybe they've found oh funny, but no.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Their answer was always throw them in a sanitarium. And
I just found it funny that this doctor's like, no,
just let him stay here, let him get plenty of rest.
I don't know. It made a little difficult for me
to swallow this guy that cares about Larry Talbot and
the fact that maybe he just got paid off by
Talbot's dad saying, you know what, no one's letting my
son leave. I mean, case in point, in a future
scene where you find that John Talbot literally keeps his
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kid wrapped up in his room.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
My son is an aristocrat, and if you're implying that
he may have murdered a man, he just needs to
sleep it off.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Good day.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I think we even get a little bit of
that back at the church when they're talking smack about
Larry a little bit and like, oh, you shouldn't be
saying such things, and there they are, so you best
be quiet. Not only is he taking Talbot Castle, but
the town is his. You know, these are your people.
Walk amongst them, get to know them. They run the town.
It's their town. These people are allowed to live among them.
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But in the end everybody answers to the Talbots. I
think that that's to take away from this. For the
most part, Talbot justice. They are the burger Master, Maister Burgers. Yes,
there was no burger Master. If only Burger King had
been in play at this point, they might have had
somebody that could solve this crime. But regardless. The following night,
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Larry turns into a werewolf again and is caught in
one of the traps. Malayva uses a spell to temporarily
change him back to a human form, allowing him to
free himself before a hunting party finds him. Now convinced
he is a werewolf. A distraught Larry decides to leave town.
He goes to Gwen's home to let her know that
he is leaving. When he sees a pentagram on her palm,
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he runs away in haste to protect her. He arrives
at Castle Talbot and informs his father that he is
a werewolf. He then proceeds to confess to the killings
of Bella and the villager, but his father believes he
is delusional. He ties Larry to a chair to prove
to him that he is not a werewolf, and leaves
to join the hunt. When the moon rises, Larry transforms again,
breaking free of his restraints, begins to stock Gwen. He
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discovers her in the woods and proceeds to attack her.
Sir John comes upon the scene and not recognizing the werewolf,
as the son fights, and bludgeons him over the head
with larry silverheaded cane. The blow has killed the werewolf
and he slumps to the ground. Malava arrives and again
chance the reversal spell Sir John watches in horror as
the dead werewolf transforms into Larry's human corpse. The rest
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of the hunting party arrives finding Larry dead on the
ground and determines he lost his life defending Gwen. All right, Matthew,
what do you think about this end sequence?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
It was neat. I mean, the reverse transformation was kind
of cool to see at the end of the movie
there where you get to actually see his face going
back to Larry Talbot.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I thought that was kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I thought the ending was kind of rushed, and maybe
that's because, you know, back in that time, movies were
only like an hour and ten an hour and five
minutes long, as we've seen from Frankenstein and even our
seventy fifth episode of Duck Soup, they were much shorter movies,
and it felt kind of like they were trying to
rush to the ending. But it was neat to see
the full wolfman walking around in the woods.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh right, well, Joey, what are your thoughts about the
end of the movie.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
My son thinks he's transforming, and so I'm gonna just
tie him to a chair, and I blame the Gypsies
and they're gypsy space lasers.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
Poo poo poo, poo pooh.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I thought he was gonna start to staying. He's either
just at the counter or autobots. When he's talked about
the transform me.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
We're gonna get my son of litter Box. I think
he really did think his son was crazy until he
saw it for himself and doesn't want to Sully his
own name, and he's saying his son was a hero.
His son wasn't the villain per se. He was cursed,
and that's how he's always portrayed. It's like, it's the
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tragedy of Larry Talbot in the Curse of the Werewolf.
But as we find out, Larry's not dead, and it's
like poorly explained in sequels, but we're not there yet. Instead,
we finally get to see a reverse transformation. Who knows,
maybe they shot a transformation it just looked like shit
and went back and they're like, eh, let's show the
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one that worked out better later, and then the movie's over.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
The end.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, these movies tend to have a little bit of
an abrupt ending, I've noticed, but I guess they just
don't need much closer. The wolf man's dead and uh,
you know, of course, the aristocratic son. There's no way
he could have done it. He's the hero. Nothing to
see here, Move al on, Move along so cyber. What
do you think.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I love the ending. I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
A lot of these films back in this time they
did end very abruptly because they just wanted to get
right to the point. No prologue, no epilogue, nothing like that.
Even though it ends abruptly, it's still got everything pretty
much out there that he goes cursed, learning to deal
with it, trying to figure it out, trying to leave town.
You know, he's distraught. Fortunately he transforms again, he goes
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after Gwen. He's dead, he's done. That's it, and that's
the end of the movie. I think some interesting things
about this seq is that Evelyn Anchors that played Gwen,
she was actually always having a rough time on set
because when Launchet and Junior would get into full costume,
he would sneak up and scare her senseless. So a
lot of the fear you see on her face in
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certain scenes were was the real fear. Something else that
I thought was kind of interesting about this end sequence
is where Claude Rains is beating John to kill him
because he doesn't realize it's the sun. That scene, they
were using some sort of fog machine to make it
look like it was foggy out in that swampy area,
and the chemical that they were using in it had
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some kind of side effects sometimes, and Evelyn had to
lay down after she faints and that sequence, and when
she was laying down on the floor with that fog
stuff going, it actually made her really pass out. And
so when they reset to change the scene, she didn't
pop up, and they're like, where'd Evelyn go? They actually
had to pull her up because she was still unconscious
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from the chemical that was in that she got. Yeah,
there you go, Yeah, she got Cosby. But I think
that the end of the film was just like the
beginning when he takes out Bella at the beginning of
the film, it's pretty much exactly what happens to bell
to help. It's Delarry because unfortunately he got that curse.
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Even though it, you know, it's very quick, I still
think it gets the message across and it is really fun,
really enjoyable. I thought Claude Rains did a great job too,
especially after he realizes that it's his son really was
a werewolf and that you know, he really wasn't mentally ill.
Think that all the acting in this film was very
genuine and seemed really sincere, and I really enjoyed it.
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I think it ends very well.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
All Right, Well, that's our movie, gentlemen, and I think
with that it's time for us to transform from commentators
to critics. So let's move on to the death clock.
So Cyber, since you're our guest, i'll ask you, is
the woof Man worth taking an hour and ten minutes
off of your death clock?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I absolutely love this movie. I think it's fantastic. I
think with its short run time, it is very entertaining,
very enjoyable, and just a really great classic that I
think everyone should watch because it really is a great
piece of cinema and just is a really enjoyable film.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
All right, joy, How about you? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
No?
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I think it started a genre, and I think it
has this place in history. But unless you're looking to
kind of like explore those roots and just get familiar
with the entire universal Monsters catalog, I think it's worth
skipping because it's been outdone. It inspired everything that came
after it, that's a Wolfman movie or a weir Wolf movie,
but it's been done way better since then.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
All right, Matthew thoughts, I took a lot of thought
in how I wanted to say yes or no, and
I'm gonna go with yes. Like Joey had said, it
is a genre movie that establishes the genre.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It sets the lore.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
For how we view Wolfman films. We get the rules,
we get the idea of what the Wolfman is, the
whole tapping into an internal beast. But I think the
biggest point of why you should watch this movies because
it is a snapshot in time as to what filming
was like for classic horror movies back in the nineteen
thirties and forties. From a cinematic standpoint, it's something that
(46:20):
everyone should at least experience and check out. So yeah,
I would say take the time off your desk clock
and check it out.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I too, am going to agree with Matthew. I think yes,
you should go ahead and take the time to watch this.
It's one of the classic universal monsters to start with.
I like it just because it's the wolf Man and
not necessarily a where wolf witch. Later on, we're just
going to see where Wolf's as a whole area transforms
into some form of, if not a complete wolf in itself,
(46:49):
some kind of human hybrid wolf that doesn't look like
a wolf man, so I enjoyed that about it. Plus,
I thought the story was pretty decent in this one,
because some of the stories in these classic universal of
one are a little rougher than others. I don't know
if it's the editing or the writing or things just
getting dropped to the floor because some executive didn't like
it and wanted it reworked. But this one, I thought
(47:10):
the story was pretty decent, So it's definitely worth watching,
I think. And with that, I think Matthew's talk about
a little feedback here. They've got to hear what we
thought about it. Now, Where can people give us feedback
about the podcast itself?
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Yes, we would love to hear from you, so please
leave us some feedback. You can email our show at
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Speaker 2 (47:44):
All right, well, gentlemen, we're not quite done. Now that
we've reviewed the movie and we've talked about whether we
think it's worth your death, clock, we have one more thing.
We need to answer. Normally, we would ask you, you know,
what have you been watching, but we're gonna skip that
since we're in our Halloween section and tonight, I would
like to know what is your favorite interpretation of a
(48:05):
werewolf or wolfman movie Cyber Again, we'll start with you
as the guest.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Okay, so my favorite werewolf interpretation or wolfman honestly absolutely
love this version. I think it's hilarious and it's gonna
shock a lot of people, probably because it's not live action,
it's animated. Is the Werewolf in a Hotel Transylvania voice
by Steve ASMI absolutely loved this version. I think it's
(48:31):
absolutely fantastic. Cracks me the hell up every time I
watch it. And the fact that he is almost like
a stay at home dad is absolutely hilarious. And he's
got like thirty pups and he's tried to be the wolfman,
but yet he's really not good at it.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
He's basically just like a dad.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
That's a really fantastic version, great comedy, great voice over.
So yeah, I'll have to say my favorite interpretation or
werewolf were wolfman is the Wolfman from the Great Hotel Transylvania.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, I'm going I say, that's a great call. I
enjoyed that one as well, Joey. Being a horror ficiano,
I'm very excited to hear what you have to say.
What's your favorite wolfman or werewolf movie?
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Werewolf the Last Warrior for the Nintendo Entertainment System, which
came out in North America in nineteen ninety You transform
into a werewolf with swords for arms.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Nice. I didn't see that one coming, but very nice.
All right, Matthew, how about you?
Speaker 5 (49:27):
Sorry, I'm just I'm taking it back that our movie
Horror Aficionado is going with a video game, and our
video game guy isn't here.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
I drew pictures of my interpretation of that character. I
lost them, but like literally I was drawing that on
a notepad when I.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Was a kid.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Gotcha? All right? Well?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
My favorite werewolf slash wolf man, I think is from
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's the movie Dog.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Soldiers set in the Scottish Highlands and there's sas soldiers
who are training and they run into a pack of
wool Is that are living on a farm, and it
is such a really great movie. The transformations in that
movie are phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
The wolves themselves.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Look, I would say kind of like up there with Underworld,
where you have like the spipedal were wolf.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
It's like super hulking and really big.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
It's probably my favorite version of a were wolf movie.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
All right, I'm gonna have to check that one out.
I don't think i've ever seen it so for myself, Matthew.
Much like I stole your thunder earlier with Back to the Future,
you stole mine because I was just gonna say the
monster Squad because the wolf Man's gotten ards and I'm
still standing by it regardless. All Right, Well, Cyber, I
want to thank you for being part of our Halloween
(50:41):
Whole review month. Can you let our listeners know where
they can find more of your howling into the Night?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Well, of course I can thank you guys for having
me for this great two episode amazing movie reviews here
and yeah, if you enjoy me here on MAM Reviews podcast,
you can check out my solo content. You'll find it
under Cybernate Shark on YouTube, TikTok x, Facebook, Instagram, Patreon,
(51:10):
many places you can find me. I'm also a part
of the podcast called the MCU's Bleeding Edge as well,
and you can find us on YouTube and on Spotify
as well in podcast form. Every week we have a
couple episodes we've put out for the mc liitting Edge,
and then I put out my content regular two every week.
So yeah, if you enjoyed me here, definitely go check
that stuff out. You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well again, in everybody, go check out cyber He's definitely
very knowledgeable about movies. We don't call him the Cyberpedia
for no reason at all, So definitely go check out
his stuff. You'll always learn something new. And as for us,
I just want to thank you for listening to the
Middle Aged Movies Podcast. We hope you've enjoined our review
of The Whoofman. I know we loved barking at the
move while bringing it to you. If you liked what
you heard, please smash the mic button, subscribe or leave
(51:55):
a comment and share with your friends.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Follow us on Facebook, ex blue Sky, and Instagram. Have
a comment for suggestion that email the show at Man
review podcasts at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
So like, if I get bit by a werewolf full
that Caroline mail pattern baldness lass or am I going
to be like a werewolf in a bald spot
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