Episode 82 - The Quiet Earth (A slip into the mouth of madness) - Middle Age Movie Reviews Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello, welcome to the Middle Aged Movies Podcast. Three guys
saying something's changed. Ain't quite measure it, but I can
feel it. It's as though we've been shifted sideways. The
north pole is still north, but the water keeps going
down the black hole the wrong way. I get the
feeling we're either dead or in a different universe. My
name is Tim, and my podcasting partners.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Are Millennial Matt and Dungeon Master Rick.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
All Right, Rick, why don't you tell us what the
final film at the cinema was tonight?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
All right, tonight we're watching the nineteen eighty five movie
The Quieter, from which is number seven hundred and thirty
one from a book of one thousand and one movies.
You should watched it before you die. Written by Craig Harrison,
Bill Bear and Bruno Lawrence, directed by Jeff Murphy and
starring Bruno Lawrence, Allison Routledge and Pete Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
All Right, Well, thanks, Rick, So Rick, can you tell
us when the first time you watched this New Zealand
classic The Lord of the I mean the Quieter.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, this, like yesterday was the first half. I honestly,
I didn't even know this thing existed until I saw
like a text saying like we're gonna be doing the
review of this movie. Matter of fact, I might even
check the calendar and saw that this was the next
movie that we're doing, and I was like, what is this?

(01:51):
I had no idea what this was. I looked it up.
I seen like the cover art for it, the for
the movie, and I was like, like, you know, maybe
that's kind of it kind of looked kind of interesting
or whatever. So yeah, it was. It was yesterday, and
it's pretty interesting, pretty interesting. Can't wait to share my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Nice, Yeah, Well I am. I am no freshman to
this film. I actually I watched this film probably like
when I was around twelve thirteen years old, on everyone's
favorite format, LaserDisc.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Is actually, are you serious? Laser disc?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yes, laser disc.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I had only seen this movie on laser disc and
I thought it was I thought it was interesting when
I when I first watched it. I rewatching for this episode.
I had forgotten how much full frontal nudity of a
man is in this movie.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean we're talking almost like.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
You know, Harvey Kitesel and the Bad Lieutenant.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
But uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Other than that, it's like I remember this movie kind
of fondly, so rewatching it, it's it's kind of interesting.
How about you, Sam, when was the first time you
got to see The Quiet Earth?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Man? I got it, I'm right there with I mean,
I had never even heard of this thing. I mean
might if it had been a finer piece of Australian cinema,
I might have. I might have been more familiar with it.
But since it was in New Zealand, you know, nothing
really existed there until The Lord of the Rings for me,
so I this movie was never even close to being

(03:23):
on my radar, let alone any map that I own.
So this is my first time viewing it.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Nice, Well, I'm looking forward to seeing your guys' thoughts
on the first time seeing this, this film, this high
quality cinema from the Southern Hemisphere, so down under right, Well.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Don't say that we're gonna get some drum adjacent under Yeah,
And you know what, it's actually a lot farther than
you would think. It's like, really far man.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I think those are fight words. If we start
comparing the Kiwis to the Aussies, we're gonna get a
lot of trouble. We're never going to hear the end
of it.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
We'll hear it from borrow Brillian friends. What are you
talking about to those new Lealanders?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I believe it will start off with Rick, what the
hell is wrong with you?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
All right?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Well, Tim, as our resident director, what are you going
to request for the synopsis tonight?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Tonight, Matthew, I would like you to read the synopsis
as the Last Man on Earth Zach Hobson as he
enters his final project Flashlight Update.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
All right, another journal entrigue, much like Indiana Jones and
buzz Lightyear.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So don't don't forget Alien and Alien.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
It's not a real big stretch for me here. All right,
Let's see what I can do.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm trying to keep you consistent, you know it, because
I feel like sometimes if I throw too much at you,
it throws you off and we end up getting seven
different accents going on and things like that. So I'm
trying to be a little bit more leveled before you,
so that you can be a little more consistent. It's
because I care.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
All right, Well, I'm glad you care. I can tell
you don't like my Sean Connery accent.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh no, I love your accents, all right.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
So here we go and my best and my best
journalistic dialogue.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, no, sir, in your best Kiwi journalistic dialect. I
don't know how that's gonna sound, but I can't wait
to hear it.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's gonna la.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
July fifth, nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Not see that it.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Goes right and out here, yes, wrong island?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
All right.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
July fifth, nineteen eighty five, The day I awoke to
the deafening sound of silence. The world of man had ceased,
along with every living creature in it. Cars sat abandoned
in the streets, Objects lay discarded as if dropped mid use,
Fires burned unattended. Even airplanes had fallen to the sky crashed.

(05:58):
All forms of electronic communication went unanswered. It was as
if the world has fallen into an interstitial space and
I was its only living inhabitant. I feared that the
government project I had sold my soul to complete for
the betterment of man was to blame at my lab,
my fears were confirmed. For written upon the monitor in

(06:20):
front of my dead supervisor was the answer to the
question Operation Flashlight complete. It now appeared that the evil
men do will live on and on. Although for a
time I did enjoy having the finer things in life
to comfort me, but the loneliness it chipped away slowly
as I descended into the mouth of madness. But eventually

(06:41):
I overcame and accepted my new reality. Yet it appeared
fate still had a few cards left to play. A
young woman named Joanne found me, and after we ventured
out into the world looking for other survivors, we found appy.
As exhilarated as I was to enjoy having companionship, I
began to observe the universal fits physical constance changing around me,

(07:03):
causing the sun to become unstable. I believe I know
what is causing these instability, and I will need to
do something drastic if I am to prevent the collapse
of the Sun and with it the Earth.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Nicely done, Matthew, nicely done.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Nicely done, pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Consistency's paying off here, sir, completely paying off. Although I
was I was missing that accent.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
I can't really do much of us.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
You know what, that movie in the Mouth of Madness,
that is pretty good. That's pretty good movie.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah yeah, And you know it's it's funny because you
can see him slipping in this movie into the mouth
of Madness.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
So but yeah, so here we are.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It wasn't the dress that gave it away.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
The slip, yes, the slip, or maybe the fact that
he's running around half naked in parts of the film.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, it seems like he just enjoyed do that from
the game.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how it stars man.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, crazy, It's it's kind of funny because I mean,
you know, we would open up and he's laying in
bed stark naked.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
I think it.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I think, like Jason Siegel from Uh Forgetting Sarah Marshall,
I think Bruno really likes running around naked.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think, yeah, he's definitely, he's definitely okay with that.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
As soon as I seen that, I remember Joey when
we were going through the picking process being like, oh,
this is a really good movie, you'll like it. To him,
I think you did that purpose because he knew he
knew there was Schlong in the first minute of this movie,
and he's like, ah, wait till he watches this is
gonna be so fisted.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Well that we do get right at the beginning of
the movie. I mean, we get the establishment that it's
July fifth, nineteen eighty five and as.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
A great scott as a.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Normal winter morning near Hamilton, New Zealand. At six twelve am,
the sun darkens for a moment, and a red light
surrounded by darkness is briefly seen. It's interesting because when
I was watching, I'm like, I don't remember like this
three minute sequence of the sun rise sequence for the credits,
because it just seemed like that was going on forever.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Dude. It was man.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, did it seem extremely long for everybody else?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh yeah? I was like, what's going on with this?
You know? I'm like, it's the money shot. When you're
working on a low budget, you gotta use you know,
Nature's magnificent beauty is, you know, part of your money shots. Like,
how can we have how can we have an epic film.
We'll film the sun coming up. There's nothing more epic
than that.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I I kind of thought, like at first, I was like, yeah,
I haven't written in my notes like the sun rises.
And then the sun was like continually rising, like a
rising A little bit wasn't enough. They like time last
thing until it was all the way over the horizon
to the very last bit, matter of fact, where the

(09:53):
rays of the sun reflect off of the waters and
the horizon. There's that little bit when the sun was like, oh,
all the way to the top where it still was
the optical illusion looked like it was still part of
one consistent thing, and the reflection on the water had
a bit of the bottom of the sun, and it
didn't actually stop until it was completely separated. So I

(10:18):
kind of thought like maybe there was some sort of
symbolism that was trying to be mirrored here. So they say,
like the separation from perhaps a person's soul from.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Nice pick up in the first I did not the
of the credits throwing her exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Was gonna happen based on that shot alone, Man, this sun.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It took like thirty minutes for the sun to come up.
I had a lot of time to think about the significance.
This is what what did the birds represent as they
go across the sun?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
The birds represent his madness flying away from him?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Ah, very well gone. Yeah, that was some goods there, and.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Rather sanity flying from him. That's what it would be
seeing here.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I just thought it was some kind of trippy, trippy
esque video effect that it probably did on some low
budget video camera, thinking, oh, hey, look at how the
sun just kind of barely misses the ocean.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I figured it was just they were getting ready to
shoot that day and the guy actually hit you know,
recording the guys like how much film you just wasted
on a sunrise? We got to use it now part
of film Now.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I had no idea what it was gonna be, but
I did have a lingering suspicion that there might be
some symbolism here because it's like the same thing the
whole time. I'm like, dude, why would they do Aside
for what Pim just said, why would they do this?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Well, there's there's not a whole lot of people involved
in this movie. You didn't need that long of a
sequence for twelve people that were on this project.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah. Yeah, it just seemed over gratuitous to be filming
on the rising sun.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
So here's what I'm gonna need from you, Rick.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
I'm gonna need a twelve page thesis on why the
sun represents Bruno or Zach Hobson's soul, no problem.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, like to a dabblo of listeners, so you can go.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, well, speaking of Zach Hobson. So even though later
on we find out that he are a scientist employed
by Delan Co, part of a United States lead international
consortium working for Project Flashlight, right off the bat, we
don't know any of this. We just see poor Zach
just kind of laying in bed, and we then get

(12:37):
a shot of his head and the alarm clock, and
then exactly at six twelve, the sun goes black and
we get that red light effect going on.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
He kind of wakes up.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I noticed that he had around his neck necklas with
his ID badge on, and I thought, that's kind of
odd for an opening sequence. Why would you sleep with
your ID badge on? Did you guys catch that when
you first Zach?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
It was the first thing I looked at my wife.
I said, I don't understand why you would sleep naked
and then wear that big plastic badge for your job.
That makes no sense whatsoever. That's the first thing I
take off when I get home is my name badge.
I do not wear my little tag to swipe in
and out of my facility on any longer than I
have to bed. Yeah, cod alone to bed.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yes, a part of my inner being, I must wear
this what I.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, you get an answer to that question later on
in the film. But yeah, I just thought it was very,
very odd. But I think that's a good way to
set up some kind of like foreshadowing later on in
the film.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
When he wakes up, he turns on his radio and
Zach is unbelievable. It's unable to receive any any transmissions
on his radio. He kind of starts his day and
he's like walking around the hotel room and he uh,
he gets ready for work, I guess, and he drives
off into the city. If he stops his first stop
to Phillip Gas, and that's where we see that there's

(14:02):
something unusual happening. There's like nobody's the gas station. There's
a car. Was it a car left right? No, it
wasn't a car left rnning the the tea kettle was
left on in like the breakroom of the gas station,
and there's like nobody around it.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
It's just it gives the essence of this eerie feeling,
like right off the.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Bat, did you guys feel any of that as you
started watching this.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I could kind of relate to like the way that
he was going through his routine and then not really
thinking anything of it until he actually hit that gas station.
Because a lot of times, I mean, aside from waking
up next to my wife and stuff, but a lot
of times I don't really have a whole lot of interactions,

(14:43):
Like there's no one I see from when I wake up,
so when I get to work, aside from scattering of
cars and I see on the road, which I travel
a lot of rural roads, so it's not like tons.
But I do think some stuff I didn't see any
it wouldn't be like it'd be just kind of like
it's kind of a little bit strained, but it wouldn't
be like super duper strained, you know what I mean.

(15:04):
If I had to get gas though, that, yeah, that's
when it would start to get kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, what about you, Tim, did you get any feelings
or essence of weirdness as you started watching this movie?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I think you start to know this right away
because you know that there's I think there was even
more than just a gas station, wasn't there like a
car pulled over in a bush and some stuff like that.
I mean it's already, yeah, you start to see some
things that are not adding up. These vehicles are not
where they should be, so yeah, it already seems out
of place because much like Ricka, I don't just travel
in a rural area. I live in a very rural area.

(15:36):
I mean my next nearest neighbor's a half mile away,
so but there's still plenty of vehicles moving around even
in the country. I mean, you have to be way
out in the middle of nowhere. And being that he
starts off in a hotel and then it's traveling to
a gas station, that means he's obviously got to be
close to some kind of town because they don't build
hotels in the middle of nowhere. So I think you
should start seeing some kind of movement going on, you know,

(15:59):
even on odd days. But what I did find interesting
is this book is actually based off an experience that
an American tourist had in New Zealand in the nineteen seventies,
where I guess New Zealanders they always take the weekends
off and they sleep late. So this guy shows up
in the middle of Uckland on a Sunday and there's

(16:22):
nobody around, and he's like, I felt like I was
the last man on earth. So that's kind of was
the basis of the writing of this book, is it's
kind of a thing there. I don't know if it
is now, but in the seventies it still was. So
it wasn't uncommon for there to be no movement going
on in the town. In America town in this day
and age, yeah, you're going to see movements, but it
did seem wrong, like right out the gate, you know

(16:44):
something is wrong.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, it kind of had essences that harkened back to
Sean of the Dead. You know, when Sean first gets
up in the morning during the middle of the zombie
apocalypse and he just goes down to the grocery store
and he's like, Olivia's everybody around him. It kind of
I had feelings like that as well watching this, because
it seemed like he's just kind of going through the

(17:06):
motions of his normal day and he's not quite registering
some of the stuff going on until he gets to
the gas station. I just thought that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
It.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
What really really kind of tells us, though, is when
he's driving around the Bend and he comes up to
that semi tractor trailer with the gas in it, a
gas tanker truck, and he like swerves out of the
way because he just realizes what's going on. I thought
that was that was a kind of neat, you know,
little jump scare.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I didn't find it entertaining. The bread truck drives off
the road into the bush and we're actually the back
of the truck just must burst open and bread the
slies all over the road.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was pretty compelling. Man, Like
this whole first part of the movie, I just was
like on the edge of my sheet waiting to see
what's going to happen next.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I thought it was really really really good. I for
especially for a movie that I've never even heard of.
I was totally in in for a penny, in for
a pound. Definitely this first, I'd say the first third.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, I'm just kind of the same way watching this
because as as he's going through it, moving closer and
closer to the city or into the town, I keep
I keep thinking, Okay, well, all right, so if someone
like quote died or disappeared while they were driving, like
Timid said, the bread truck or the tanker car, but
then as he gets closer to town, like, what about
like emergency vehicles other cars? And sure enough, as we
get closer town, we said that some cars just kept

(18:24):
driving off and pulled to the side. And then as
we go through everything, we see that there was like
a fire happening because an airplane came down.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
And I'm like, yah, yeah, how many.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Airplanes are actually up in the air on a daily basis,
how many would be plummeting instantly? And I just I
just thought, Wow, this could be some serious cool effects.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
And it was.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
If they remade this movie today.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
See, I was a little different in my approach to
this movie. I should secondly approach just my viewing because
I had seen Vincent Price The Last Man on Earth,
and I think Charleston Heston doesn't he do a version
of too? I think later on Omega Man. So I
was already in my head comparing this movie to those

(19:07):
movies because the premise had already you know, I'd already
experienced it. Plus it felt like a Twilight Zone episode,
which there is one that's actually very similar to called
where Is Everybody So? And it actually some of the
beats in that movie are even the same throughout it.
They like the both the protagonist break clocks and the

(19:28):
you know, the underlying incidents of scientific experiment, and so
there's a lot of similarities. So it had a lot
of beats that felt very familiar to me. So it
had to really step it up for me in order
to start to differentiate itself from things that I'd already seen.
What did do it for me a little bit was
the plane. Yeah, and considering that this is a I mean,

(19:49):
this is obviously a very low budget movie, these guys
did an incredible job. I think it was like a
million dollar movie, which you know, that's nineteen eighty five
million dollar money, which I don't know what that would
compare it to today, but i'd be a lot of
ca Yeah, So I don't even know how they managed
on that kind of budget to pull off some of
the shots that they did in this. But the plane
was really cool. And that's if I remember it's an
abandoned factory. I don't remember what kind of factory that

(20:12):
they put these plane parts in and stuff and caught
on fire and things like that. It was still odd
that this guy just decides to start wandering through the wreckage.
If I am worried that I might be the last
guy on earth. The first thing I'm thinking is I
should probably be careful and not get hurt because it
may be no help. I mean, it really becomes the
thing you have to rely on, whatever medical skills you have.
So wandering around a burning factory with all kinds of

(20:34):
jagged metal and sharp things and stuff probably not the
best thing you could do. But visually it was a
great idea, and it really did kick it up and
made it feel that the cars were a nice touch.
The plane. The plane sold it for.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Me, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
And I also like how he goes over to the
seats and he just picks up the seat belts because
they were still buckled in, and I thought, huh, that's
kind of neat.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, that also was a very very nice touch. Like
the attention to detail on the things as he investigates
was very well done. I thought it really kind of
helped sell it. He did a great job that because
and he asked to because we you know, we're basically
gonna only see you know, brutal Lawrence or Zach Hops
and the character for like the first thirty five minutes.
He has to sell this all by himself, so he

(21:19):
you know, and I think he did a great job
doing that.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yo. The one thing that I have to say, I
was like, Yo, man, this dude's this was in the
first day because it was I assume it's in the
first day when he like broke into that house. I
don't know if that was someone's house who he knew,
but he straight up through a rock like it looked
like it was still the morning, like that same day,

(21:43):
and he was like losing it, man, like he was
already losing it. He wasn't he wasn't bothered to knocking
the door or try to see if there was an
open door in the back or something. He was like, nah, man,
I'm about to take this rock. I'm gonna bust this
window open. I'm gonna get in that house. It seemed
like it was just some random house that he never
even seen before. But I don't know, maybe I missed something.

(22:06):
Was it someone's house that he knew?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Now I think he's just like, I can hear you
in there, because he can hear something going on, and
that's that water that we'll see flying around in there.
But I think there was also after he smashes the
rock through. There's that moment like in his face where
it almost read like what am I doing? Like I'm
breaking into a house. There was that moment between panic
and I shouldn't be doing this, so's there's definitely a

(22:29):
conflict that he's playing out, and I think to a
great effect.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, well, because I mean, if he isn't the last
person on Earth and he's trying to investigate this house,
I mean he can pull off the fact that, oh well,
I hadn't seen anybody for miles, and if someone does
answer the door, he's like, oh, hey, here's what's going on.
But throwing a rock through somebody's window, he's like a
little hard to explain.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Oh yeah, I heard a noise. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I think if somebody came there, like what the hell,
Hey dude, I'd be like, okay, I'm sorry. But I
was freaking out because I thought I was the last
person on Earth. I've defecated in my pants and I
was looking for clean underwear.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
When you pull the twigs, you pull the twigs out
of your pocket, you start shoving it in your mouth.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well that's one way, dude, I figure just squeezing one
off and you're underwear to could somebody that your story
was on the level was good. But if you want
to kick it up with the mounds, bar twigs, bar,
you go, you go do that. Let me know how
it works out for you.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Zach does make his way eventually to his his laboratory, which, honestly,
if I'm specially on the last man on Earth, I'm
not going to my lab. I'm not going back to work.
But that's because it's kind of a key point to
the whole story, which again, as I'm watching this movie,
isn't the fact that he's part of the cause or
the cause of the problem as to why he's the
one that's the last man on Earth. I don't know,

(23:50):
it just it seemed very coincidental.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Maybe No.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think he goes back to the lab because he
knows he has a computer terminal there the hooks up
to every other governmental lab throughout the entire planet. That's
why he runs that program and it keeps going transmitting,
and then it would come back. I don't remember what
it said, it said no, no answer or something along
those lines. Yeah, he was confirming nobody's answering anywhere else
in the planet. I think that's really why he went there,

(24:15):
and then it also helped, you know, you know, basically
tie into the Project Flashlight story as well.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Gotcha, yoh, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Those computers looked super high tech. Man. They look like
some serious high technical computers from five. I mean, those
things took up the entire room and they had flashing
buttons and stuff like that. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
They had the old Apples going on in there. I
think we see one later wrote, you know, prevalently there.
He uses that one apple to show them some diagram
or something, and yeah, yeah it was. That wasn't even
a two E. I don't know what the model was.
I'm not an Apple con well, but I know that
was a pretty old apple.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
I didn't see the banks of u punt banks of
real the real computers that you see in a lot
of the like classic eighties movies, but I did see
like a lot of stand up terminals and stuff, so
I thought that was kind of neat. And talking about
Project Flashlight. In the in the Computer System, he does
go down to the underground lab and he discovers his
his supervisor's dead body on what to me reminds me

(25:19):
of like the control billds you see at like a
nuclear power facility or something, and that Homer symptom would
be sitting behind with like that little bird.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah. I thought it was kind of strange that they
actually had like scattered through here and there they had
corpses like there's no like the people who were alive,
they're gone, but the people who were dead, Like it
just seems strange how there were some corpses of dead
people and then there was like everyone else was like gone. Yeah,

(25:53):
I thought that was kind of strange.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, because the first corpse we actually see is is
his his supervisor hearn at the control board, and we
don't see another quote corpse until well into like the.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Hour mark or forty five minute mark of the film.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, and I have a thought on that too. If
you want me to share that at this point, hold.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
On to that thought then okay, But I think I
might have the same theory.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
But we'll address that when we.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Get to this movie.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, he finds paren at at the at the control
board with the rather jump scare reveal, and then the
poor body falls on the emergency seal button.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
What look man?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, And I'm like, I can't I can't believe that
the designer decided to let's put the button like right
here in distance fallings, not like up on the wall
or over to the side.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Let's kill your coffee like ah, your fuck.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure when you're sitting at a million
dollar governmental terminal, you're not bringing your couple off. And okay,
I'll put the all the the little you know, cup
holder in the area. That a lot of those computer
rooms were like that back then. I mean, if you
think about it, there was just like one master console
or to of them because there's only a couple of
people that really know how to work them at any
given time, so it's not like everybody has one at

(27:14):
their desk. But I do agree with you that it's
funny that that button's right there, But I don't know
if it always matters, because I'll be honest with you.
So I worked for a company a while back, and uh,
we had a server room that we installed a fire
suppression system into the hal system. Yeah, yeah, basically Halon system,

(27:36):
And so where we sat, we could see we we
had a window that we could see into the server room,
and we had a button that you could hit on
the wall. As you were saying, now, of course we
had to kick it up a notch because we're just being,
you know, the geeks that we are. We made it
so that when you lift up the panel on it,
the alarm starts to go off, right, And we put
all kinds of crazy stickers on this thing, just stickers

(27:58):
and yellow tape, and just to kick it up and
make it look obnoxious. And at some point we had
to give this office up. I won't go into the details,
and it was given to a different group of people,
which made no sense. But anyway, this happened, and one
of the people that were in there one day is
looking at this button and they're like, why did these guys,
these jag offs put this button in here? Why did

(28:19):
they not take this thing down? This stupid thing, He's like,
and so he got curious and he lifted up this
thing and the harm goes off. He's like this, this
is funny, these guys, and he hit the button sho
you know, oh my, the entire server room. It kills
the power. So he kills every server in the room
and the halon systems going off, and oh yeah, I
was so I guess my point in this conversation was

(28:41):
not to only tell you this funny story, But I
don't think of mass put the button.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Somebody's gonna push it. Like those psychological tests when you
had a person in the room and you have the
only thing in the room is a is a sign
that says do not touch or do not pressed. It's
a little button just to see how long it's gonna
take before they fucking press it.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's like that read and Sniffy episode. Oh how long
could commanders stiffy hole out? We're the big red, shiny
button even ever closer.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I just I find it funny that it's it's in
body falling distance.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But his response was super epic, man.
It was yeah, a guyver level epic.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Man.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I was like, I was impressed. I was like, yeah,
this guy's got some real intelligence here.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, because I mean he's he's like, well, he knows
he can't get out because I guess the the reset
button is on the outside of the of the sealed laboratory,
so your supervisor.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, So I'm like.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Well, how's he gonna get out of this mess?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
And yeah, sure enough he finds in the janitor closet
a blowtorch and the oxygen is settling. Can and he
creates a bomb, like Rick says mcguiberwise, and I just
can't help. But wonder, all right, what office, laboratory, computer
room has a blow torch and an oxygen settling torch.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I could gather off the gas in there, but the
blow torch next to it. This sounds like a bad idea, man,
But I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Gonna say where I'm working now, I can probably come
up with all of that and any of the given
labs that I have, not just one. There's multiple tanks
and all kinds of fun stuff. I might have a
blow torch, but I can buy the bunts and burner,
so I think it counts the punts and burner and
any given canisters are at my disposal.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, He sets the bomb up so that he can
hopefully get out of his lab, and I thought it
was neat that he like sets it up in the
bathroom and he walks all the way on the other
side of the of the being or the building, and
then gets into an office, closes the door, gets behind
the desk, and then he pulls out his little tape
recorder and he like listens to himself talk and he's
like making notes and stuff in his quote audio journal.

(31:07):
His Yeah, the explosion is so big that it blows
the door off the hinges, and I'm like, wow, that's
a big freaking explosion. I mean it must have like
taken the entire tank off.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
The dude was trying to be safe, you know. I mean,
I don't know how many times do we see in
movies they're just like they make a bomb and all
they have to do is like kind of walk away
a little bit and then duck when the off and
it's all good. I was like, yeah, this is pretty cool.
I could buy this quick.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Behind this mopfuck, I'm gonna like this thing.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I would at least move move the desk away from
the door, you know. Yeah, way, I'm not in the
direct line of the door flying.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Although I do have a question when he picked that
tape recorder up, did he record that stuff and they
record tape recorder or was it or recorded on the
tape recorder and he was listening to it as if
it had already been there and he was hearing it
for the first time. I was a little confused by that.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I was under an impression that he had been doing
the recording like he had been updating his log and
he was playing it back to reflect on what he
had said while he was waiting for the explosion.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
So he's dictating like, well, I got await for the
oxygen to go. Let's see, I gotta kill like two
three minutes. I'm just gonna start dictating.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, no, yeah, Well he was listening, he was listening.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yeah, he's he listened.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
First.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I think he was listening to see where he was
at on the tape, and then he then that's when
he started talking about making the gas bomb to get out.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
However, I will say that if I am waiting for
a pending explosion, I doubt I'd be able to concentrate
on some highly technical information. I probably shitting a brick
on the other side of that desk.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's cool character there. He's just like, yeah, just another
day at the office. Let's see, I've opened the valves
and the oxygen tank, I've set the torch on on fire. Well,
it's a good time to enter a couple of long
journal notes in here and then and then there should
be an explosion that I can.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Go yeah, and oh he does, because after it explodes
and there's fire everywhere, and much like walking through a
warehouse full of fire. He just nonchalantly walks through the
lab and out the underground laboratory, which the surface is
right there, and he manages to get up and out
and just cooks away and you can hear all the

(33:21):
sirens going off and stuff. So I thought that was
that he goes no emotion getting out.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I think that's the big difference between if that had
been a US booker, he'd never made it. There have
been like ten thousand tons of concrete and rebar in there,
he'd have never broke it out. I think that's that's
Kiwi engineering there. It's a couple of things of cardboards,
some three M glue and then top.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Of it, get some hate mails out.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
They got to justify why he's able to get out
of the ground.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So easy for all our New Zealand listeners. If you
would like to email to him and explain to him
why New Zealand engineering uses three M tape and super glue,
please email the show at Manreview Podcast at gmail dot com.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
I'm here of Tim.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
If it had been if it had been Abby that
did that, I might I might accept it because he
did turn into an orc when the Lord of the
Rings came along and they have to dig themselves on
the ground. But Bruno, no, sir, he's no orc at all,
So I'm not buying three tape and cardboard all the way.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
So then he gets away, and Zach's now like, okay,
well he's got to like make something of what's going on.
He makes his notes, you know, Zach Hobson, July fifth one,
There's been a malfunction in the Project Flashlight, with devastating
results too. It seems I'm the only person left on earth.
He refers to the phenomenon as the effect. And of course,

(34:43):
after a week of trying to contact another human being
with no response, because he goes to a radio station.
Now I realized that this is nineteen eighty five, and
so like the radio station's kind of like I don't
know the version of podcast. Yeah, I guess you could say.
I thought it was kind of clever that he goes
to the radio station, records the message of where he's at,

(35:04):
he's the only person that he knows of, gives the
phone number for his house and the address so that
someone can eventually, you know, contact him. I thought that
was kind of clever. What'd you guys think of that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It felt very nigh to the comment, which was how
Joey sold this movie to me ols like a knight
of the comment. You're gonna enjoy a lot, but I
won't tell you about the big swang at the beginning.
But yeah, because that's a night of the comment. When
everybody dies, what they do They go to the radio station.
It's you know, we're right back in the eighties again.
What's the first place to go to? Where can I
broadcast to the most people? They hear it? Then they

(35:36):
get there with the disappointment, realize that the DJ is
of course recorded as well. But I thought that the
parallels were kind of interesting in that, and I did
like too, as Zach decides to upgrade his his housing situation,
when he realizes that he doesn't have to live in
his a little cracker jack apartment anymore, he goes back
updates like you can now reach me here instead of there,

(35:59):
So please you don't go here if you if you
hear this or within the range of this transmission.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yes, speaking of radio, I did think that it was
neat that when he does upgrade, we see him get
out of bed and he's like makes himself breakfast, and
and he's kind of like walking around the room and
you hear birds singing, and it didn't dawn on me
that he was listening to a recording of birds. And
then I got thinking, I'm like, yeah, we don't see
not only we do not see humans, but we don't
see any animals. We don't see we don't hear any birds,

(36:26):
we don't hear any insects. And I just thought that's
maybe that's why it's also kind of creepy, as it's
just the lack of sound in this movie. I mean,
I know we always talk about how much sound like
really plays a part in in a movie, and just
because there's so little of it in this, I just
thought there.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Was there was or yes, there was score, there was
music that was I.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Remember looking at the name of the composer for this,
and I hadn't noticed. I hadn't like identified it or
anything like. It wasn't recognizable. But I do think that
the score did kind of hype up certain areas and
aspects of the movie as it was going along. But

(37:13):
I definitely think that you're on something with not noticing
any of the wildlife or just generally speaking, background noise
and with regard to like the radio stations, that just
reminded me of I think it was twenty eight days later,
twenty eight days later when they were like they heard

(37:33):
the repeating radio station that was telling everyone to go
to some military base for states here or whatever, and
that turned out to be like the worst idea that
they have up to that point in the movie. So
the other thing too is everyone don't know if you know,

(37:54):
everyone's carrying out guns man, Like there's no one around,
but everyone has a gun at least.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well, he first starts off carrying a shotgun around as
he's trolling through grocery stores, and I did think that
was neat that he was, you know, he's doing his
own shopping in a mall with the Camino of all things.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, he was having a lot of fun. He was
having a lot of fun messing with like the little
toy train and like real trains. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I think you guys both hit it on this though.
I mean as far as the score goes, John Charles
did an awesome job. Again, this is I don't know
how they got such a great score with such a
limited budget, but the score makes this movie seem bigger
than it is. It makes it seem a little bit
more epic than it should be, I think, because I
feel one of the things that goes against this film

(38:44):
at this point is that the production quality of it.
It just didn't hold up, you know what I mean.
We've seen so much better and even older films of
that have the same kind of theme to it had
with the bigger budgets hold up better just because they
were able to throw so much money at it. But
the score definitely makes it seem like an epic movie.
And to your point, Man, I think that you're right.

(39:07):
I mean, you don't realize it right at the beginning,
but there are no animals, and these guys did a
great job. I mean, I watched this show and I've
never seen anything move the background. No cars, no airplanes
in the sky, no bugs, nothing, no birds. They even
with all these scenes, there's never a bird that flies
across the screen. You never see that. So they did

(39:28):
a great job of making sure that that continuity stay consistent.
So it adds to the creepiness of it. And I think,
to go back to what you were saying, Rick, with
the gun thing, it's like, look, he's the last man
on Earth? Why is he carrying this gun around? I
mean one security. I mean it just makes you feel
better in case you run into something you don't know.

(39:48):
Cause my first thought is that if you're the last
man on Earth, everything seems like it's going to be fantastic, right,
like you should have unlimited resources and things like that.
But things are going to start going a foul real fast.
I mean, there's water is going to run out quickly
because there's nobody to run the pumping stations. Dams are
going to overflow and bursts, so hopefully you're not downstream
or in a low level lying area that's going to

(40:10):
get flooded. Nuclear power plants are going to they're going
to melt down because there's nobody there to shut them off.
There's just these hazards and if you're not around any
of that, other things are going to start happening. Animals,
domesticated animals are going to get hungry, and zoo animals
that can figure it out are going to break out
and they're going to start roaming around. They're going to
start looking for food too. So in my mind, having

(40:32):
a gun is a good idea just because there may
not be people around, but eventually the wildlife is going
to start getting out and about and far more aggressive
because they're going to realize, Okay, the biggest thing on
the food chain, you know, is no longer dominating us,
So the pecking order has changed, and so you are
in as much trouble for getting mauled by an animal

(40:53):
as you are hurting yourself by doing stupid things. So
this not being the case because I don't think he
had really put together that the animals weren't around yet.
I don't know. I don't know when there's that defend
in a moment until later when they kind of talk
about the fish. For sure, they kind of like if
I acknowledge it, But up to that point there's no discussion,
So I don't know when he really makes the realization. Obviously,
by time he's at that fancy place and playing the

(41:14):
sounds of the birds, he has realized that he's not
seeing him, but nobody ever really goes out of their
way to comment on that. You just kind of pick
up on it as you go.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I think, yeah, And like you said, I mean, they
don't definitely explain that until the point part with the fish,
But yeah, I agree, with you there. It is neat
that he goes through like these different stages as well.
So first off, he's trying to understand where everything's at.
Then he has a little bit of fun. He upgrades
his vehicle. He's now driving around in a camino or
a truck. That's kind of like when he starts to snap.

(41:48):
He thinks, he hears things, he thinks he sees things,
he's he tries to comfort himself by putting on a slip.
It just you can see the progression of how he's
going through, like the different stages of stuff. He's now
at that point where he's he's losing it. He's no
longer in a comfort zone. He's he's going crazy. What
would you think of his performance there? Rick with his

(42:10):
slip into madness?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Bro, that was like super crazy. You know what's really
cool about how that scene played out for me at
least was I mean it kind of first off, it
kind of made sense. I mean, when you're by yourself
for a very long time, people do lose it generally speaking.
That's like that's pretty normal reaction for exposed time, extended

(42:39):
periods of time of exposed solitude. However, he was wearing
that thing for probably a while, because in one of
the later scenes of him wearing it, it shows furious
deterioration on that. Yeah, like it was he had been

(43:00):
on in that thing probably for weeks. It honestly, it
really did look like that. So this was more than
just from that. It seemed as though it was more
than just like a day or a few days or
something like that. Like, it was a long time. He
was straight up just wearing that, and it seemed like
it wasn't anything out It was just that. No, No,

(43:22):
it wasn't great man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Well the sequence when he when he fires the gun
at the television and you see him fall backwards over
the you see everything, So it's like, yeah, he's he's
wearing that for like weeks, maybe a month and a half,
very long time.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, So, I mean he was definitely on the edge
several times, and it wasn't until that moment in the
truck when seemed like he actually pulled back from the
proverbial edge.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
But and matter of fact, I think it was just
after he claimed himself to be a god something like that,
wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, he he had set up all those cardboard cutouts
and I'm like watching, I'm looking at the we have
Adolf Hitler, we have Elizabeth the second, we have Hope
John Paul the second.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
So I'm like, yeah, yea, yeah, he had completely gone bonkers. Man.
That was actually a really, really good scene. I particularly
liked that scene when he was making his announcement to
the world about everything. I was like, I was really
involved in this, Like, I don't know, I thought it

(44:33):
was cool. I thought it was cool. I thought it
was well done. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I also like the moment that he's he's gotten so
nutty that he enters the church and he challenges God.
He's like, show yourself or I'll shoot the boy. At
first side, he was like, what do you mean shoot
the boy? Like, oh, shoot the boy. Okay, I get it,
you know, which, I don't think I could have done
it even as an actor. I'm like, now that I'm

(44:59):
not doing that's gonna you know, that's that's just a
bridge too far from me. But it did, as far
as you know, cinematically, really proved a point where he's like, okay,
well do you exist if you do show yourself, because
otherwise then apparently religion plays no, no, no role in
the New World because there's only me, So you only
now exist if I deem you do, and if I don't,

(45:21):
maybe I'll make myself a god instead, you know. I mean,
he's just he's really losing it at that point.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
To touch that the put on when he's fired on
the on the symbol with the you know, the crucifix,
the Crucifixion. Yes, it was in specific spots like the
sigmata and in the rib cage where it was stabbed
in the head, where storms were like they used, they used.

(45:49):
He fired at every wound that was made in the
stories of old for the Crucifixion. So I thought that
was a nice little touch.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Yeah, I caught that too.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think that what finally snaps him out of it, though,
is when he's driving that truck through I think it's
a gas station, Petro and he thinks he runs that baby.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Over, yeah, man, you know, and he.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
He jumps out and he looks and of course there's
no baby. But for a minute you're like, oh my god,
maybe he did he maybe he did kill this, you know,
maybe there was a baby.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, sure for him, man, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
And in your head, you know, there's not one in there,
but you're like, well, maybe there is. So yeah, he
kind of flips out and he's just about ready to
like that said, I can't take this no more. And
then he's finally like, nope, I will endure, and he
finally is able to kind of snap himself out of
it and move forward in life again. But yeah, his
his dissent and demands was very well orchestrated and very

(46:47):
interesting and had a lot of symbolism going on in there.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
As far as you.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Know, it doesn't matter what I wear, it doesn't matter
what I do, doesn't matter, you know, what I say.
It doesn't you know, matter none of it, religion, people, nothing,
It's just it's whatever I want it to be at
this point because nothing matters. It's just me and nothing else.
So yeah, a lot a lot in there.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
It is.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I always like when one of the characters says a
line that's actually the title of the movie, and I
did think it was kind of clever that he declares
himself president of this Quiet Earth. He said the line
that has the movie title.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
All right, Yeah for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah I like that too. Bet that's like as soon
as I heard that, I had when I take my notes,
I have a little headings for each little section of
scenes or sections of film, and I rewrote what it was.
I was like, Oh, that's that's gotta be the name
of one of these sections, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
Yeah, And Tim did hit the old nail on the
head there with the event that serves to break him
out of his insanity, and I think that was really cool.
He settles into his whole normal routine now and I.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Don't know if he dies or taking a swim. Oh, yes,
he washed away all of his madness and poor behaviors.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, couldn't sit, thank.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
You, all right, So, yeah, so he settles into his
normal life.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
And we were talking about sound earlier and how it
plays a role in this movie, But did you guys
kind of notice that when he's like at that hardware store,
for like a split second, we almost hear like an
engine running somewhere else because he kind of like stops
and like looks around like he feels like there's something there.
And I just thought, Hey, that's kind of kind of
neat because I never really noticed how the sound of

(48:38):
this movie kind of leads to the next sequence happening.
And it wasn't until this viewing that I realized, oh, hey, yeah,
you you do hear something. You hear what sounds like
a car running or driving somewhere, And I thought that
was really neat that it would lead to this next
sequence where one morning he's you know, at at his
at his new place, and a young woman shows up

(48:58):
with a gun in her hand, because again, like Tim says,
you don't know what's going on, you need some protection.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
And I just thought it was neat.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
He's like there and she's got the gun pointed at him,
and he's just kind of like throwing his hands.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
He's like, no, I'm not going to hurt you.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
And then she puts the gun down and they're like
hug And I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, man, that was so interesting, I guess. I mean,
I've never been in a situation like that where I've
been an extended period of solitude to where just just
seeing someone would cause you spontaneously read for and embrace. Yeah,
I could. I could see that happening. I could, but

(49:34):
it was definitely. I mean, they're strangers, you know, presumably
they don't know each other at all, but you know
they have that connection of being the two only people
in all of existence, you know, so I thought that
was pretty pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think that if you've resigned yourself that you are
the only person on the entire planet and you find
another human being, the need for human contact and touch
and relief far out weighs your sense of self preservation
and safety at that moment, because it makes no sense

(50:11):
for either one of you to hurt each other, because
if you do, your back to square one of being
by yourself. Yeah, I think it was just like, I
don't care, thank god you're here. You could be a
crazy person, a rapist. Well, I don't care. I just
need to touch, feel, and hear another human being. So yeah,
they're totally willing to let their guard down because it's

(50:31):
just they need that human embrace, because I mean, some
people are wired to go a lot longer than others
without contact, to be isolated and be alone. I mean,
but still there is a point where even those people
still need some human contact, even though it may be minimal,
it's still there's a necessity for it at some point. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, I mean, because no matter who you are, we're
all human. We all need to have that sense of
some attachment to something. That's how they and brain is
wired go through an entire world once on months on
end without having any kind of contact with somebody.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
It almost kind of.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Reminds me of the other movie like The Omega Man
or A Quiet Earth Is I Am Legend Will Smith
was making pseudo relationships with mannequins, and we kind of
see a little bit in this movie is he needs
something familiar and it's just it. When Joanne shows up,
you get the feeling that, yes, you can totally get
where they're not going to hurt each other. They're just

(51:28):
going to embrace and be happy that there's somebody else there.
I guess it's a long witted way of saying I agree,
But I have to say it's kind of amazing that
it takes so long for them to actually consummate a relationship.
If I'm the last man on Earth and she's the
last woman on her thirty seconds tops boom, I'm.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Not waiting like I'm not waiting days.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I like the way that they approached it though, I
mean they quiet yeah, I mean they took that element
out of it. They did make it all about sex.
It's like, Okay, we know this is gonna happen. They
know this is gonna happen. But they still need to
get that comfort level with each other. And I like
that they just didn't plow into the eventual sex scene.

(52:10):
They did it in a clever way, like you just
one day, she comes in, she brings some breakfast. They're
kind of having a little bit of fun banter, and
then she turns around a band there's their area. So
I guess that happened. Yeah, we know that it happened,
but yeah, it was done in a very kind of
classy way. And I like that because most movies would
have had to have that gratuitous sex scene in there,

(52:31):
and they didn't do that. I thought that was kind
of classy and well well done. And I like the
idea that they didn't just fall into each other's arms
and start ripping each other's clothes off. They're like, we
know this is gonna happen, but let's just let's let's
let that comfort level. Let's just get past the point.
You just need to have some conversation and company before
we get to that part.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
As you had said about the relationship, and I like
how they become more playful with each other too, because
you know, even in their conversations, she's kind of like
ribbing them a case, and they're talking with the walkie
talkies as they're exploring throughout the city trying to find
more survivors. And I just think it's kind of neat
that she's she has his playfulness and her attitude towards Zach,

(53:11):
while he's kind of sort of reciprocating that same playfulness,
but it's it's not nearly as clever on his side.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, it's definitely endearing. Absolutely, Yeah. I thought that was
really cool about you know this, this part of the
film was you got other vehicles going on here, and
I really appreciated how our mc continued to drive the Toyota.

(53:37):
You know what I'm saying, Like, like, he, are you
drive anything else? Man? Nah, he's gonna drive that Toyota truck.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Yeah, that's his truck.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's yeah, yeah, it's a pretty cool truck though.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Joe and she was driving some
nice cars and stuff. But I was mad respect for
Zach continually choosing that Toya even I don't know if
you guys remember, but late in the movie when he
actually crashes it into the ditch, they pulled that thing
out and he was driving it after that, like he

(54:13):
must have been like, hey man, this isn't ditch, but
we got to get this thing out of the ditch.
This is like what I'm gonna be driving. So I
thought that was super cool.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Well, I think it's the New Zealand version of the
Mario McFly truck.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Okay, it's a good truck.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
They're traveling through the cities trying to find other survivors,
and I thought it was interesting that as she's exploring,
he's actually trying to find a reason as to why
everything's happened. He's testing oscillators and going to the university
to try to find a solution to what's going on.
And I just thought that was kind of neat that he's,

(54:51):
you know, still trying to investigate to figure out what's
going on. He's still you know, wants to know answers
while she's just trying to find people. So it kind
of shows the two different aspects of of what it's
like to survive in this quiet earth.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
What did you What did you think of that? Tim?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I think it's not the sun crafts, but it's a
difference in intellect. He's he's still a scientist, and I mean, if, like,
if anybody is probably wired to be alone for longer
periods of time, it's going to be a scientist. I mean,
we've seen in this demeanor of dealing with this. I mean,
he freaks out at the beginning, but he doesn't freak
out at the beginning. There's it's it's like a controlled

(55:28):
freak out until he descends into the madness stage, which
is different. But I think he, you know, he still
has an intellectual mind and needs to know, you know.
And I think she's definitely a far more social animal
and needs to have that interaction with people and needs
to find people for him. He's like, Okay, I've found

(55:52):
somebody else. Luckily it's a it's a it's a female
somebody else.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Bonus, Uh, you know, I can be perfectly happy now
I can have conversations with her. We obviously have moved
on to the next level. I can now pursue my
intellectual things as well as have some company in life.
So he's kind of content where she, I think, feels
like I need more. I need more people. I need
to find and grow a community. So I think it's

(56:16):
just the difference in where they're at somewhat intellectually and
somewhat socially. It's just they are definitely a different different
levels on that scale. And so and I think that's
everybody again, Like I said, some people are far more
wired to be alone, and some people would almost freak
out instantaneous if there was nobody around. They would just
lose like almost immediately. They just wouldn't be able to

(56:36):
handle it because they need to have that sosal in
their action. Like the people today on their phones, where
they have to have that constant stimulation at constant talking
to people, that constant sho by people liking their content
things like that, those people would just lose their minds.
The people are like, look, I can set my phone
down and never look at Facebook and I'm fine. Those
are the people that are going to do better being
alone for a longer period of time.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
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Speaker 2 (57:00):
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to community exactly.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yeah, this I think this is like the first based
on what Tim was just saying, this is in the movie.
This is the first time when you start to hear
the characters talk about what their theories are. I think
it was just was it just the O, Was it
Jack Zach? Was it just Zach who had postulated what

(57:30):
he thought was happening. But that's the first time that
we hear an idea about what is causing all this
change in in their experience of life. You know.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, well, I mean even when she talks about her experiences,
you know, she talks about being in that hospital and
seeing the baby with seeing the dead baby in the
in the nursery and how it had maggots on it,
and I thought, Okay, well that's crazy. And then we
see like two bodies of dead people, like actual people

(58:05):
on the street. So it's like, Okay, now we're kind
of starting to get a little more about the theories
and stuff. And I think this might be where I'm
gonna turn it over to Utub so you can kind
of give us what your theory.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Is on the whole dead and missing humans.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, so we're gonna get to a point, and we're
gonna have to jump ahead a little bit. So when
they meet Appy and he explains what happened to him
right before he found himself here, we clearly now have
come to a point where we realize the only people
that seem to exist in are live at this time
are people who died at the exact moment of the
quote unquote event that happened. So my theory is with

(58:42):
the rest of the people that we see, these are
people who were injured at the time and they also
died came back in this whatever you want to call
this dimensioned realm, whatever this is. And I have some
thoughts there, but we might want to wait a little
bit longer before we really dig into that. But I
think those are people that even though they came back,

(59:03):
were still injured to a point where they died yet again,
and that's why their bodies are here. I think that
they they kind of died and probably revived and then
died again kind of thing, because I mean we see,
like the scientists, he's definitely worse the wear. I mean,
he's whatever happened to that guy was not good. He's
all he looks he's got some of that Indiana Jones.

(59:23):
I just looked at the ark and going on. You know,
his face is sunk in, it's kind of falling off
the face and stuff like that. Eyes were sunking in.
We see the people at the crashes and they're obviously hurt.
The one person's in the car, they were actually hurt,
and then the other one was a nurse, but that
looked like she was calling for help, but I think
she also had sustained some injuries inside that but there

(59:44):
was nobody else, which there would be multiple ambulance people
at that point. And again, if you've seen a baby
like that, that would probably also mean that it maybe
had died at that moment. Then yeah, kind of came
back and died again. I don't know how that works
that you would die again instantaneous, because if we believe
our two main and the one we're going to meet
all died at that moment and have come back into

(01:00:06):
this quiet Earth, why those other people could die and
then die again I don't really understand, But it's my
best explanation as to they somehow died yet again almost
instantaneous of coming back into this this version of the
Quiet Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Gotcha. It's a it's a pretty solid theory.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I mean I had I had a similar thought, and
in the fact that yeah, they're maybe their injuries were
enough that they died a second time in that in
that version.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
So yeah, I agree with with what your theory is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I also wonder if I can just one more wonder,
you know, significantly in this film, we see the clock,
and the clock is set to six twelve, So as
everybody that's died at six twelve, is that this quiet earth?
And there's another one for the people who died at
six thirteen, and another one for the people who died
at six fourteen. I sometimes look at time as being
a film strip. But if there's multiple timelines, every film

(01:01:01):
strip is one frame off from each other. So whatever's
in this frame is now one and over into the right,
and then it went over into the right, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
They're all lined up rose Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Each of those will be slightly off from another one.
So this is the timeline for six twelve, This is
the one for six thirteen, This is what so everybody died.
So each one of these different timelines is going to
have different people stuck in their version of a quiet Earth.
And I'm going to say it's just the quiet Earth
right now, like everyone's going into a quiet Earth of
some sorts.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Well, but the effect only happened at six fifteen. And
then we do see later on like a couple of
times where like he refers to a tremors happening, so
another effect happens, and we'll get into that a little
later when after we meet Appy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Right, but we no whole planet. People die and if
they all died, then where are they all? Like that's
why I think maybe not everybody died at the exact
same moment, and so they're each in their own version
of this gotcha.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
So me personally, I think that this is just a
representation of the urbial limbo, the lands between here and there.
The Christian religion, it's called purgatory. Like they died and
then they didn't go to the light, So then now
they're stuck in this like in between place and they're

(01:02:16):
stuck alone until like someone else dies, and then they're
also in this place where pretty much almost no one
is until they find someone or they move on, And
it just seems like that's probably a likely representation for
what's happening here. But they do have they do kind

(01:02:38):
of involve that whole technological thing, and he did mention
like maybe we're just on a completely different universe, which
when he said that, the first thing I thought of
was cern the large Hadron collider and how there's a
lot of theories floating around us surrounding this thing and

(01:03:02):
how it might be causing strange effects in our universe.
The most notable observation is the Mandela effect, so the
idea that perhaps things have changed in the past, like
we're in some alternate reality and that's why certain things

(01:03:23):
that people remember to be true are proven fault. So
a couple of ones that are high on the list,
the Barrenstein Bears, right that you know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
That has no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
So apparently there wasn't a Berenstein Bears, there was a
Barren thing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
Like Jewish bears, mirror mirror on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
The wall was never said magic mirror on the wall.
And there's there's there's countless, countless of these things that
people remember, like they definitely remember certain things, but like
it don't exist, And people are like, this is like weird.
How is this possible that this stuff that I clearly

(01:04:08):
remember from years ago doesn't exist anymore? And so people
are saying a couple of things. People say like, oh,
it's just a bunch of people, like their minds are
messed up. And some people are saying, maybe it has
something to do with this elet technological machine that's accelerating
particles to the feat of nearly the feat of light and
causing them to collide. And maybe it's having some sort

(01:04:31):
of effect on the energy level.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Caused by this is causing us to shift or jump
between the different universes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I guess, man, I don't know that's what people are saying.
So when when when that's what they say? So when
I hear this guy's talking about this like Project Flashlight
and all this technological mumbo jumbo, I'm thinking, like, hey,
this is actually something going on. And you know this

(01:05:02):
this movie takes place in nineteen eighty five, but there's
something going on in twenty twenty five that is of
a similar caliber.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
It is interesting that when he talks about Project Flashlight
and the way he's describing it, he's talking about energy
being passed through the earth wirelessly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
How do you know, man, this was Hega Collider, not
even that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
But actually this theory predates nineteen eighty five. The theory
actually goes all the way back to Nicola Tesla. Nicola
Tesla had this idea that he wanted to transmit power
wirelessly through the air, and everybody was freaked out about
it because you're talking about something that can fry somebody.
But he's like, he proved it with like you know,
Fabrige aeronauta, that particular cage that you use. I can't

(01:05:49):
did he used to Faraday cages prove that you can
transfer electricity across airwaves without causing any problems. And so
he actually had the idea of first which eventually we
wind up using today with our cell phones.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Yo. Man. Word of the street is that he got
the idea from the ancient Egyptians who supposedly use those
pyramids as power plants and stuff. That's for another podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Though, Rick, did you hear that from ancient.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Obviously? The big problem with that idea is that the
entire base of the pyramid is made of a super
non condition. So unless there's something underneath the pyramids that
we really I mean this, Hey, I don't know if

(01:06:50):
you've heard about recently, some these these scientists have used
this high altitude scanning technology that supposedly it's not just
stone unerneath there, that they are these waterways and stuff
like that. So they Egyptologists claim there's a bunch of nonsense,

(01:07:11):
but they do have some measure of research into this,
saying that it's not just stone underneath there, it's actually
these massive columns that contain water. Water, on the other hand,
highly conductive in fact, in fact, uh, moving water, running

(01:07:32):
water will can actually produce a small amount of electrical charge.
So it's possible. But I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Well, we have come way out past past my point
of how they were talking about wirelessly transferring, which is
could be what's causing the uh, the the effect to happen.
And folks, if you want to send us a tenfolk
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(01:08:05):
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to Rick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I ain't gonna wear if it is not in the
pyramid is a hershey case, I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Was with you at the beginning when you're talking about purgatory,
you kind of you win. I can't follow where you're going.
I can't I can't walk that path with you, but
I will say I have right on my notes here
predatory question mark. So I think you might have nailed
it on that one too, because I was kind of
waiting to see if we're going to start with a
little bit more of that down the line, but I

(01:08:41):
guess we're doing it here. I also believe that this
quiet Earth is most likely purgatory, especially because a while
back the Pope declared that purgatory is not so much
a place, like it's a definitive place, but it's the
absence of God that will be your purgatory. Should you

(01:09:02):
end up there, you will be in the absence of God,
and that will create your purgatory because of your yearning
to want to be with Him. I think, either by
purpose or inadvertently, so kind of hit that point here
when he challenges like, if you're here, show yourself or
I'll shoot the bullet, and I'm like, Okay, if this
is purgatory and it's the place of the absence of God,

(01:09:24):
he would not show himself. So I think there's a
strong possibility that that's what this is. I also I'm
going to I'm just going to say the word and
I'm going to get into it because I really have
to wait till we get to the end. But it
may be purgatory or reincarnation. I think there's some reincarnation
aspects here, and I will tell you my thoughts in there.
Or I even think it could be purgatory that ties

(01:09:48):
in with the nine levels of Hell, you know Dante's
Inferno there, and maybe this is level one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I don't know this could be hell as well, but
I do it here to your purgatory theory. I do
think there's possibility of hell, and I do think there's
a possibility reincarnation or some kind of weird pseudo mixture
of any interesting three.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
I'm curious to hear what you have on that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
But let's like you said, we'll hold off for a
little later because you know, we haven't talked about Appy,
you know, when when we meet our I think I'm
a busher of this. But Mayor Maori, I think it's Maori.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Okay, I think it's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Yo yo. You said that he played as an orc
in The Lord of the Rings. Yeah, I did not
know that. I kind of looked at a little bit.
I couldn't find any pictures. I thought that was super
duper cool man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, he is a hero or in the Return of
the King. Yeah, actually he is in the Lord of
the Rings. And uh, I thought somebody else in here
was in the Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
Its New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
They have a population of what twenty five people, all right,
I mean as a pretty pretty Oh, it's it's the
actual it's uh, it's the director.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
He's the second unit director in all three of the films.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Oh damn man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, so he does. Actually the director did a lot
more in this if we could take a side tangent
for a moment. But Jeff Murphy, I was not familiar
with him, but uh, he seems to be the King
of part twos. Uh, and he's done quite a few
that I like. So he's he did Young Guns two,
one of my favorite series. I love Young Guns. Young
Guns too. He also did under Siege too, maybe not

(01:11:35):
quite as under Siege, but probably the last decent cigall
movie before the floppy arm. Uh, completely goes into straight
to DVD. And he did oh, the Fortress to one
of Joey's favorites with old Christopher Lambert Fortress. He did
Fortress too, So he seems to be King of the twos.
But then he, like I said, he was on the
Fellowship two Towers and returned to king. He was second

(01:11:58):
unit director. So yeah, we got two two prominent people,
as you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Know we were talking about, uh, was it Peter Smith?
Paul Smith, a gentleman who plays Appy Pete Smith. Yeah,
so he's a he's a Maori man who I believe
is uh the indigenous peoples of New Zealand, and we're
introduced through to him through uh a clever booby trap

(01:12:23):
that he sets up for our hero Zach. Now, I
don't know about you guys, but if I'm driving down
the street and I see that there are some vehicles
conveniently laid out to filter me to go one direction,
I am not going in that direction. It seems far
too coincidental that all of the like this bus and
this these trucks are all lined up to block off

(01:12:44):
the street. So what was your take on on Appy's
introduction to this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Tracked track? But there's there's a flip side of this.
First of all, I feel like you hear somebody starting
up all these vehicles moving them around. But I'm gonna
I'm going to remove that from the equation because they
may be in a town that they haven't been because
they're traveling around looking for survivors. But secondly, how long
do you put this together? And then you wait like
every day like today is to day the spider. The

(01:13:14):
Spider's gonna catch the fly, they're going to totally go
into my trap. Like, what are the chances that you're
going to find a another survivor and be they conveniently
drive into this elaborate mouse trap you've created. It's so
freaking far fetched. And it's not like he's seen them
coming into town. It's like, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy,
and he's like started playing this thing together. It just

(01:13:35):
it makes zero sense whatsoever. But he's in that vehicle
that he somehow manages to get to roll out this
giant truck behind him to block him off. That you
can't reach the cab from off the back of that
truck because it's a military truck, so it's not like
it has the little likebard fit the window you can
crawl through there. And then he's ask it's just like

(01:13:58):
really like stick him up. I'm the only bad guy
left in New Zealand. Give me all year. I don't know,
money slips, whatever you got, I want it, I want
it all, you know, Yeah, because I mean after the key,
he's not after food because they got more food than
they know what to do with. At this point, money's worthless.
I mean, you can take any house you want. It's like,

(01:14:20):
oh no, you took the one place I wanted to
live and I'm gonna take it from you. It just
it makes no sense. But uh yeah, I don't even
know where to go from there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
The only thing I can think of is maybe he's
he's like a doomsday prepper and he just wanted to
make sure that whoever he runs into can't kill him
without making sure that there's like assurances that he should
be safe.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
What about you, Rick, would you think of the introduction
of API.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I mean definitely what Tim said makes a lot
of sense, but as a movie, so maybe it wouldn't
became the story might not have become a movie if
APPI didn't have this fortuit, this encounter with Zach. So
I don't know, but yeah, I mean, the dude was
super over the top, but so was Zack at one

(01:15:09):
point that totally lost as marbles at one point. And
if we're taking a look at the idea that Zach
was the first of the three that entered into this
universe and then.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Joined, uh Jan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Was the second one, so then Appi would the third one.
And there was a there's a moment when every single
time when something changes and then shortly thereafter they're introduced
to another character inside this you know, quasi universe or
whatever that we're in that we're watching. So maybe Appi

(01:15:48):
hadn't been there that long and he was still in
that psycho phase that Zach was in when he was
walking around in a nightgown or whatever, a slip or
whatever it was, you know. So, uh yeah, I think
it kind of to me, kind of makes a little
bit of sense to dudes going bonkers. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:16:09):
very coincidental.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Yeah, it is interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
It's the analytical point of view of picking it apart,
because later on we find out that where Appi is
residing is nowhere near this town. So it's like he
he had to have left his home, drive however, many
miles to the city to set up this trap, to
wait there for a day or two, and then drive
all the way back home the next morning, get up,
drive all the way to the town to just keep

(01:16:32):
checking his trap.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
I just yeah it, let's maybe he had censors around
the whole neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Yeah, it was a little odd, but at least gives
us a third character to help add tension to the
to the group dynamic is rather funny how Appy hijacks
Zach's truck and has Zach drive all the way back
out to Joanne, and you know, we kind of see
him like scoping everything out, and he sends Zach out there,
and the three of them are now all together again.

(01:17:06):
They just kind of stand next to each other and
they hug and embrace because they found somebody else. And
I just I think it's issue that the whole dynamic
of the relationships are now slowly changing, and we get
more of of API's background, we get more of ideas
of what's going on in this in this quieter Earth
or this universe, and I just I think it's it's
neat that this just takes takes this story a little further,

(01:17:27):
one step closer to a conclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, but their meeting together is as clumsy as this
stupid trap is too, because he holds him at gunpoint,
makes him drive all the way back into town. They
get out of the car, you know, Zach walks over
to Joe Anne and they kind of like motions that
he's there. He walks out, he drops the uzzy, they
all smile and then they embrace. I'm like, fuck, no,
do you just you just held me at gunpoint through

(01:17:55):
a city for no reason at all, like and now
we're gonna hug not And her acceptance of him is
way too too quick and too clumsy. It's like, I
feel like they got towards the end and it starts
getting rushed. Now it's getting a little clumsy. This is
where the film starts to kind of fall over for
me a little bit. But just his whole character, his

(01:18:16):
interaction with them, her acceptance of it, and this soon
to be love triangle, because there has to be now
because just this is the whole purpose of introducing him,
and there's a there was a director who says something
like that, John Luke Gadar. I think he says something
like all I need is a girl and a gun
to make a movie. Well, I mean he basically it

(01:18:39):
just added to you know, all I need is two guys,
a girl and a gun. And now they've got it.
They got the love triangle. They have two different races
going on, because now we have to have some kind
of weird racial tension. It's not ever quite talked about,
but there's still some weird underlining of it there and
things like that, because he makes a few comments like
all the white man you know, left whenevery all this
happen and bla the way he needed to charge or

(01:19:02):
something and so which didn't really need to be there
in this movie. I just the love triangle is gonna
be enough. And even at that, Zach is a little
bit like, you know, like it's not the most important
thing to me. I just want the companionship more than
I'm you know, really after getting laid all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
But how about you clumsiness to this for you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Yeah, I mean definitely there's some inconsistencies and stuff like that,
but I did find that it was it was pretty
interesting how he didn't really let his guard, OPI didn't
let his guard down until he heard Joanne being very authentic.
I think part of the reason why he was being
so defensive was because Zach said he hadn't seen anyone,

(01:19:50):
and then the dude's like, hey, fucking lion, bro, I
just heard somebody on the other side of that radio.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
What the fuck man should you response to me? Holds
at me duh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
I think he was trying to. I think he was
trying to say something like that, but OPPI cut him short. So,
I mean, there's definitely some of that, I was willing
to let it go because it didn't seem as though
Zach was being super hung up about the hope being
held at gunpoint. It seemed the way that he was

(01:20:26):
what's his name, the actor's name, it seemed as though
Bruno Lawrence was playing Zach in such a way that
he was just very understanding and empathetic to the situation
that API was in because probably because he had been
there before, he had been at that low point in
life where he was ready to take his own life.

(01:20:49):
For me, a little bit believable that he was in
a very low placed place that I've been in before
and now he's like kind of we stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Yeah, but what about Joanne? Though?

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
She seemed like a very happy, go lucky type of
person and she likes him, and they made comments about
it h later on where Joeanne's we kind of like
when you see someone, you kind of know that you
like him as soon as you see him or not.
And this is like, this is like a very prominent

(01:21:23):
red pill type of information right here that like women
just kind of look at someone and just kind of
know that they like the person and would just kind
of like, eh, just there was this, there was this
one particular. It wasn't like a study, but it was
an experiment that someone did. They put together a like

(01:21:43):
Tinder account. There's a fake tender account some dude who
they grabbed, this really really attractive guy, and they put
him on the tender account, and underneath his bio they
said that he was just like it's just all sorts
of crazy criminal activities and stuff, but at the bottom

(01:22:05):
he's trying to become a better person and stuff like that.
And this dude was getting mad amount of hits on
tender because the women knew that they liked him from
the good go, whether or not what he did in
his past, you know, So that kind of seems maybe

(01:22:26):
a little bit believable, I guess to some extent. Obviously
it's not every female and not every woman, but but
the same is true for guys. Guys do it too.
You see you see someone.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Scene where he's out running through the woods, you know,
and Joe Anne's falling along talking to him. She even
addresses that, you know, I think that when you meet
somebody within like the first few seconds, you already determine
that you like them, no matter what they say or
do you're always gonna look for something positive to them.

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
She kind of hit hits that point.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Yeah. But Sach also makes a common along the lines goes,
you know, when I see the two of you together,
I feel like you've known each other for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Oh yeah, he getting kind of he's getting real like
a conspiracy on that, you know, Like, oh, when I
heard that line, I'm thinking straight up total recall. I'm like,
oh man, this guy's got some total recall thoughts going
on right here, right That was that very good, good observation,

(01:23:27):
tim I caught that one through. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Now of the three of them are hanging together, we
do get more of their backgrounds, and we see how
Oppi got here and his fight with his buddy and
how he had died.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
At six twelve am, and we also get to find.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Out about Joe Ann's and I think this is the
point where we get the reveal of how Zach died.
And then it kind of it's kind of like all
those scenes we've seen at the beginning kind of fall
into place, because we get that shot of the medicine
bottle and then you kind of go, oh, well, that's
that's why he had his ID badge on his neck
so that they could quote identify the body when they

(01:24:05):
find his post suicidal.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Yeah, nakedness.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, I came back.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
This is also where we get the whole conversation about
the fish in the river, and I thought, yeah, that's
kind of neat because the legs, the eggs would be
laying there. They got fertilized before the incident, so life
really had started quite yet. But wouldn't the sperm entering
the egg be living creatures as well? That's the one
thing that kind of like, I kind of not too

(01:24:35):
sure about the theory, but yeah, it was interesting that
fish are the only things that were living. But then
wouldn't like, I don't know, bird eggs that had been fertilized.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Well, there's the maggots, and there's no way that the
maggots could have been there, you know what I mean?
Again without something along those same lines.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Check it out. Though I don't know if you guys
knew this, but fish was an ancient Catholicism. Fish was
the secret symbol for representing a communion with God, you know,
so maybe there's some sort of like, you know, Christian

(01:25:18):
symbolism there with the fish being right, you know what
I'm saying, Well, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
First century Christians to identify each other, they would one
would draw an arc in front of them as they
were talking, and the other Christian acrossmen would draw another
arc that would bisect it, so it would be the
classic fish symbol that you see on the back.

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
Of people's cars.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
So yeah, I can sell you that that symbolism maybe.
So we also say that this love triangle begins develop
a little more. Yeah, it does seem a little rushed,
but then we get this really cool effect where he's
trying to explain what's going on. That is explaining what's
going on, and they managed to go back into the
city and we had that whole sequence where the trimmer

(01:26:04):
effect happens, and we get this like trippy sequence with
APPI like walking on the side of the wall, and
this feels like I'm watching like a pink foid video.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
I don't know what you guys thought of that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
It felt very eighties, very let's try to do something
clever with with the camera tricks. Me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
I thought that it was just a physical representation of
what Zack had been saying. Been going on the whole time,
is that the laws of the universe were being changed
and literally in this case, being upside down.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
How about you, Tim, what do you think this whole
symbolism of the sequence.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
So I think it breaks down outside of playing it
against Pitfoyd soundtrack. I think it breaks down to a
couple different things. They were either watching a true sci
fi film where there is some kind of event going
on and it's starting to deteriorate quicker, the tremors are

(01:27:06):
coming sooner, because he points out, I was like, oh,
it actually came sooner than it should have. And it
not only is he I be like walking on the walls,
but it actually I think it shows Zach it's almost
teleported outside somewhere and stuff, so it kind of displaces them.
We've got a little bit of Philadelphia experiment going on
here kind of thing a little bit, So there's that,

(01:27:29):
Or it's a representation that Zach is just hallucinating this
whole thing, and this is just a breakdown in his mind,
like the structure of this hallucidation that he's residing in
it this moment is starting to break down, whether it's
because his body's breaking down or he's coming out of
whatever it is that's causing this hallucization or you know,

(01:27:53):
like he's in a coma or something. I don't know,
but there is that possibility that this is all in
his mind or he's just completely bonker and he's just
sitting inside the road like he's you know, he never
did come out of his descent, and the man this
is complete and he just he's imagining these people and
he's imagining his stuff going on while he's probably just
basically starving death on the side of the road, sitting

(01:28:13):
in his deteriorating little slip there and probably pissing himself.
But I don't know. I mean, those are those are
my two best guesses in this cereal.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
You know, it would have been a neat a neat film,
very very Terry Gilliam. Like it's if he, uh, this
whole thing was taking place in his mind and he
just wakes up in like an insane asylum or something.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
That would be kind of clever.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Well, it's interesting, Tim that you said that this could
all be playing out in his mind, because I'm not
sure if you guys ever heard this before, but there's
been studies of people's pineo glands and how they excrete
d MT and your brain for sometimes hours after your death.

(01:28:59):
And and there's some people who postulate that perhaps that
is what people's after or near death experiences could be
related to. Certainly it could be some sort of actual
spiritual escapade or spiritual journey, but it very well could

(01:29:22):
be just something happening in your mind. And it's hallucinogenic
compound that is naturally excreted, and it could cause these
type of hallucinations. So it's interesting that you have that idea,
Tim because it actually science.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
And that's when he blanted us with science. I'm kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Smart, and of course you know, talking about science.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
So Zach, he's analyzing stuff and he fears that the
effect will soon occur again and that the sun will
soon collapse and in any case obliterate the earth, like
total supernoble kind of thing. So he decides to destroy
the facility that he used to work at, and Appi
provides the possible solution, and they go off to an

(01:30:13):
armory and we get a really cool sequence where Oppy
charges up around the door and then he like hits
the button and like every other action movie where they
just like they're a couple of feet away, and then
there's like all those little explosions and then the door
just kind of falls out. I thought, hey, that was
kind of clever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
I have to disagree. I don't think that was that
clever because although that's funny about the door, Appy used
explosives to open up the building full of explosives, it
seems like a really bad plan.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
A couple.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Gel PLASTI like a whole bunch of gel plastic, like
an entire warehouse palettes, yeah, palettes and this stable and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
You know, like I guess it's but yeah, you lost, yes, yes,
you know that seed. I think it's like the third
episode in they go to the pirate ship and the science,
the chemistry teacher is talking about how dangerous the sticks
of dynamite are, so then he's like, don't wave the
dynamite sticks. As he's waving the dynamite sticks, he blows up.

(01:31:24):
So yeah, I probably also would agree with Tim on
this one. Don't you're the closest to get edstry through
a tier whereout.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Now we're gonna take that theory and we're going to
expand upon it. In the next scene when they're transporting
the jail plastique, and Zach forgets about the semi tanker
that is sitting in the middle of the roadway, and
so what does API do to I'm just gonna push
it out of the way, So he rams the gas

(01:31:57):
truck with the truck full of jail plant that that's
like a huge explosion waiting to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
I actually thought this was a cool scene. I thought
it was really dumb, like as a character doing it,
but I thought it was really exciting, And at this
point in the game, I thought that the movie did
some excitement, so I thought it was actually pretty good
to have in the movie, despite being a bad case
of care of judgment calls, but still I thought I

(01:32:28):
still thought that it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Well, I also joined that not only is he ramming
the truck, but then we got Zach and Joy like
we better get back in these behind that truck. I
think you should get in the truck because when he
comes ramming through that, if he doesn't blow up doing it,
he's gonna hit I don't know the truck you're behind.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
But somehow, through through sheer will or just dumb luck,
he manages to get through there, and and I thought
it was kind of neat that he manages to not
hit their truck and just kind of turned us the
right second. And then Joanne's like, well, shoot, I'm gonna
go in in the big truck now because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
You know, yeah, cool dude, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
And then but how does he flex those badass muscles?
Hey watch, I'm gonna go ahead of this car while
we're driving on the way.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I know, I know this guy's got.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Like a death wish. Maybe he's like, look'd what the hell?
I don't know, Maybe he's like, decide. I didn't quite
get it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
I guess Zach wandering poor because of some ionization in
the air that I don't get.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
It was afraid that they.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Would I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think they.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Were just trying to use science technical babble to just
justify why they had to do it. Made absolutely no
sense whatsoever, even if it was even if that place
was flooded with gamma radiation, regular radiation and whatever else
you want to say that dynamite's not gonna blow up
because of the way he's doing things. I don't think
that's just gonna happened with a little bit of radiactivity

(01:34:02):
going on. I mean, I could be wrong. I've never
run through the nuclear power plant had.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
So well could also have been I mean, the thing
was blinking, I guess, But I mean, we see what
happened in the end. You know, he would come up
with some stories, so it could have been this whole
elaborate plan so that he's the one driving it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Anyway, it could be that's where they all climb into
the little truck and they drive to the facility, and
I thought it was kind of clever that Oppi's like, hey,
the place still has lights on. And then that's where
Zach explains, well, that's because the grid's still on and
it's still feeding power into this satellite or dish to
keep things moving along.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
I think that's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
A neat little gobblelygook to explain what's going on a
little exposition before.

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
We get the end sequence.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
So he tells them that he has a remote control
device that he used to drive the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Which we didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
We did establish that, we did see that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
But I'm like, did he really initially come up with
that idea or did he was just trying to find
a way to drive the truck himself. What do you think, Rick?

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Nah. Yeah, I think it was like he was his
whole intention was to drive that truck, whether or not
it was at the point when they got to the
science lab or when he was trying to flag them
down to tell them that we're you know, there's going
to be a change in plans. I don't know. I mean,

(01:35:32):
there's certainly the opportunity for him to have orchestrated this
from that point moving forward, but I don't know. I mean,
this movie has a number of things that could be
explained because there's not a ton of dialogue that gives
full explanation to what's going on. There's a lot of

(01:35:53):
questions with what's going on. There's ways that the viewer
could kind of justify things that are happening in without
completely losing their ability to suspend.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Just believe right, how about you?

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Tim many any final thoughts before we see uh Zach
saved the day?

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Yeah, I mean I think that he definitely was decided
he was just gonna drive that truck himself into it,
and mainly because look, he can't compete with with with
APPI I mean this this cat's rolling around with a
with a you know, a fur rug to throw down
and then the guard checks lay pipe. You know, there's

(01:36:34):
a little little you know, Berry White playing and stuff like.
He's like, look, I'm doomed. I'm gonna spend the rest
of Aturney with blue balls. It makes no sense. I
might as well just ram this dire truck full of
dynamite into this nutrient power plan or whether this is
just call it a day because I can't compete with this,
so you know, Yeah, that's my take on that. He's
just like, I'm out of the game. I've lost, so

(01:36:55):
I'm gonna capitulate and just myself.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely, I definitely see a little poor
me happening there as as he decides to take the
truck and drive it into the facility. Yeah, he wired
it up pretty quick too, because it seemed like within
maybe five ten minutes he's he's driving it down down
the street and he's got the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
No, there's all that there's all that stuff in the air.
All he's got to do is get it right down
then blow up on itself.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
All those radio waves just settle that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:37:28):
Maybe you would think, but no, he wires it up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
He's got an actual detonator thing and he pushes a
button and it blows up. We see the red light
or whatever as he travels into the light. He wakes
up on a beach and we see these like weird
clouds in the in the background, and we see rising
out of the out of the ocean the planet Saturn,
and I thought, wow, that's kind of a cool effect.

(01:37:51):
And it's the cover to the to the film. And
here's my theory. I'm going with the purgatory theory, that
he was in purgatory and now he's in heaven.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
That's my thought. What about you, Tim What do you think.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
I'll see now? This is where I begin to leave
the purgatory theory. Although purgatory is never defined, so maybe
there's multiple levels of purgatory. I don't know. Maybe every
time you try to offer yourself in purgatory it just
sends you somewhere weirder, you know. That's all I can
think of, because I mean, I'm sure he got there.
He's like, well, crap, what do I do now? Because
now I'm not even I'm not even at a quiet earth.

(01:38:26):
I'm in a completely foreign place because I'm looking at
literally Saddurn rising like the moon, and these clouds formations
are like nothing I've ever seen, so this is completely wrong.
This is where I tend to leave the purgatory road
and branch off into the Dante's infernal nine levels of Hell.

(01:38:46):
Every time you leave one plane, you go to another one,
and they just keep getting weirder. And maybe you do
that by offering yourself again, and you got to make
it through all nine of these before you can get
to heaven. Or my other thought is it's reincarnation and
he dies reincarnated on a quieter because the typical thing

(01:39:06):
that we always hear in recarnation is that you'll come
back based on your car or you could come back.
You either ascend or you may go back and come
back as if you're a bad person, you may come
back as a snake or a bug or a spider
or a particular animal, depending on where your karme is set.
But there's that's only one religion's take on reincarnation. Here,

(01:39:27):
it's like, oh, well, maybe every time you die you reincarnate.
Now you end up on an earth where there's hardly
anybody there. All the physical manifestations of mankind is here,
but the people are gone and it's just you. You
and your thoughts and then eventually maybe you'll find other
people who are also here, and maybe if you offer
yourself in that plane, now you end up someplace even weirder.

(01:39:47):
And maybe each time it happens, instead of you coming
back as a particular animal or another human or something,
you come back in different period or places, and maybe
it's part of the ascension. I don't know. I mean,
we could get really deep into this, and this is
this is really just a fleeting thought of mine. I
haven't really sat down and you know, really sketched out
or done a lot of study into this area where

(01:40:08):
I can effectively talk at a very high level of it.
It's just a base theory that I had, But I thought,
these are the four things. It's either all in his head,
he's in burgatory, it's a weird reincarnation thing, or he's
somehow in the nine levels of hell. I know that's
four major things. But again we will never really know,
because there's another one to.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Think at you, what if the effect actually creates a
wormhole and at the point of death it sends you to,
like you said, another plane, but now this time instead
of sending them to another plane on Earth, he sends
them to another planet in a different galaxy, because who's
to say that that's actually Saturn. Maybe it's another saturn
like planet, and now he's been transported physically and into

(01:40:54):
another planet somewhere else in the universe.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Oh yeah, I'm not necessarily saying and that's Saturn. I
think saturn Like, because there's no planet that can sustain
life that's Saturn, as we all know, right, I mean,
there's just nothing there unless as you are shot into
these other dimensions moons, right, Yeah, the planet that we
can't see, the other Earth, the dark Earth at that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
New moons that are around Jupiter and Saturn that could
potentially support life, could actually have life right now. I
just don't know, gotcha, right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
But yeah, I think you could be onto that. I don't.
I'm definitely not saying that Saturn. It's either Saturn or
saturn Like. So I guess there's arguments on both sides
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Yeah, between you didn't all think that it was that
planet from uh contact with Jody Foster, you know, all
the way on the other side of the horse head
Nebula or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
That's an interestine reach, that's an inchine reach.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
I mean, hell, this This could be a two one
head trip too.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
I mean it's kind of got a bunch of that
weird like, as we said at the end of that one,
what the hell did I just watch? Yeah, so it's
just like where what the hell just happen to be?
And where the hell am I?

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Kind of thing?

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Well, how about you, Rick?

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
Any any final thoughts on the conclusion of this film?

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Yeah, man, I kind of also think that it was
his final journey to the afterlife. That he was in
some sort of limbo or purgatory place where the dead
live until they're ready to ascend and make their journey
to whatever is after and and then he gets to

(01:42:41):
this pretty trenquil and serene place, this beach that has
a very cool looking horizon, and I was like, Okay,
this is probably heaven or whatever. Not to say that
I disagree necessarily with Tim. I think that it's pretty
open to interpretation, So it very well could be any

(01:43:03):
of the four things, well three other things that Tim
said that it is. I think that those are very
valid claims that he has, But on a personal level,
I would think that's probably it seemed like he was
made it to the next stage or whatever. So it
is kind of strange that he would have to take
his life, but it seemed as though was like more

(01:43:24):
a selfless like somebody had yeah, like yeah exactly, so
someone had to do it, so he had to like
become a better person in order to like make that
final leg of the journey. It's pretty cool, pretty definitely
allows a lot of room for these type of existential

(01:43:44):
and aschological questions.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
You know, Yeah, I guess that's I think that's what
I like most about this movie is just the sheer
fact that it's got an ambiguous ending. There's a lot
of this movie is that this still ushicle questions about
life and the universe and a person's self, especially when
he dives into the madness of everything. It's an interesting movie,

(01:44:09):
definitely something that I like coming back to every once
in a while. Well, with all that being said, I
have to ask, is it worth taking an hour and
thirty one minutes off your death clock to watch this film?

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
What do you think? Tim?

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
So, I am probably going to surprisingly with as much
as I've talked about it, go no, only because I
think I was already familiar with the premise I have
seen between The Twilight Zone and several other movies. Again,
as I've mentioned things along this line that I feel

(01:44:45):
we're done better. This movie for is interesting as it is.
It's not wholly original. It's done well on a limited budget,
but it still had a limited budget and suffers from
that from the production quality of it. In the end,
it just does not hold up well. I feel that

(01:45:09):
this would be a very interesting read. If I was
going to go back and experience this again, I probably
would read the book instead. I just I feel like
this has been done better. The Twilight Zone did it
very well in a much shorter amount of time, and
there's just again, I'd rather go see Mega Man or

(01:45:31):
Last Man on Earth with its surprise probably before I
would come and recommend watching this.

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
How about you, Rick, where do you stand?

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
I stand on the opposite side of the fence on
this one from Tim. This is not very often that
we have a different mind on movies and stuff. But
I also haven't seen the ones that he had suggested
to watch in its place, so I can't really speak
to that. Maybe if I had seen those as well,

(01:45:59):
maybe I would have a different mind of this. But
I actually like this one. Quiet Earth is actually a
pretty good movie. I thought it's very compelling, has a
very compelling plot, definitely provokes a lot of thought, reflection
and contemplation on the part of the audience, both to
question reality as well as the afterlife. We talked a

(01:46:23):
little bit about the score, so this music heightens the
scenes intensity and intrigue as the characters on screen navigate
their way through the reality they find themselves in. So
I would actually recommend this movie to people who haven't
seen it, especially because it's only an hour and a half.

(01:46:45):
Sometimes these movies that come out of the Book of
one thousand and one movies are a little bit lengthy,
and this one is kind of a short one. It's
comparatively speaking, So I don't think it's a huge time investment,
and it definitely will if you haven't seen it. It
would definitely provoke some thoughts into what's going on. So

(01:47:07):
which is which is good? I think that's the intent?

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
Gotcha?

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Gotcha? Well, you know what, I'm actually gonna side with you,
Rick on this one. I have seen The Vincent Price,
The Last Man on Earth, I've seen Omega Man, I've
seen I Am Legend, and there's just something about this
movie that kind of sets it apart from those other films.
Nowbeit yeah it's from New Zealand, it's got a lower budget,
it's got a lower production quality. But I think it

(01:47:32):
really kind of keys into some of that some of
that that feeling of unease. And it also asks you
asks questions to the audience that I think kind of
lends it to the to why it's in the thousand
and one movie book. So I'm definitely gonna say, yes,
it is worth taking time off your death clock for
the Quiet Earth. All right, Well, that has been the

(01:47:54):
Quiet Earth Review. So, folks, we love to hear from you,
so please leave us some feedback. We want to hear
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(01:48:15):
guess what we have more feedback this week?

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
Nice, Yes, we got right, we.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
Got we got a ding on our Alien episode episode eighty.
Got two gentlemen who have well I think I assume
it's two gentlemen have commented over on Spotify. First was
mister Gray if you're nasty said great episode, and then
our user named blade Runner says, hey, dudes, Whitey mentioned

(01:48:45):
he was joining you for this one, so.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
I had to check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Well played, great pod. So I'm assuming that it's somebody
who knows or is part of the Born to Watch podcast.
So thanks for reaching out to us, thanks for letting
us know that you've joined the show. And if it's
Dan on the line, and thanks for saying you like
our show.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna, you know why.
Originally what he said it cut deep. You know, it
really really hurt me. But after having listened to the
last podcast, I can feel the love from our Australian brothers,
and uh I got to say, you know again if
our you know, our feedback people are from you know,
the Born to Watch podcast family there, thank you for

(01:49:27):
joining ours. Man. We we love listening to those guys,
and we love to know that you know you're happy
to across the cross across the globe here and come
listen to a couple of Americans jabber on about movies
and and that you enjoyed it. So thank you, thank
you for listening and thanks for commenting. We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
And hey, you have a comma about New Zealand and
you're from Australia, please feel free to leave it in
the comments. We would love to hear what your thoughts
are on The Quiet Earth or Kiwi's in general. And hey,
if you're from New Zealand and you want to leave
a comment and explain why we are totally wrong on
three M and super glue to hold up a underground facility,

(01:50:04):
let us know in the comments or email the show.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
So I hope that somebody from Museum It comes. That's
exactly how we build our stuff over here.

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
You're right, all right, gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Well, now that we've reviewed The Quiet Earth, what else
are you watching?

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
Tim, what's what's worth sharing?

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Uh? This week I have dug down into the James
Bond Archives. I will be joining Andreas the pop Culture
Guide channel presents this week coming up here for his
live broadcast of a due to a kill. So if
you want to hear that by time we post this

(01:50:48):
one that should have already happened, go check out his
channel and hear what I and I believe Matthew will
have to say with Andreas about.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
I'm looking forward to if you two kill with Andreas
I do. I do want to point out one other
show that I have watched, and that is Remo Williams.
I did point it out last last time on our
Indiana Jones review, but I hit the cutting room floor,
so I'll tell more about it later in a in

(01:51:17):
a bonus episode, so it is out there, and I
just I really want to point out that if you're
in an eighties action or eighties movies, since this is
an eighties film as well, I wanted to point out
Remo Williams is still rocking my jam right now.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
How about you?

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
Rick got a couple animes for you guys. The first
one is the unemployed hero does not need something like skills.
This one is otherwise known as a hero without a class,
who even needs skills. This one is really good. This
character he comes to aged and then he realized they're

(01:51:54):
like all get their classes from this place, you know,
they find out what class they are. So there's people
who are blacks or swordsman or mages and stuff, and
he doesn't have a class. People are like, what, how
do you don't have a class. So they look down
on him because he doesn't have a class. Usually people
without a class they're like unemployed and broken losers and stuff.

(01:52:17):
But he is someone who doesn't have a class. But
he has a crazy drive to get work in, to
put the work in, to learn how to do stuff
how people would normally do that. So he puts the
work in. He actually has no limits. It's really really cool,
very very very very good anime. It's very recent too.

(01:52:40):
It's recently come out on TV. On TV, it's been
around for the manga has been around. But anyhow, the
other one that I have is You're gonna like this one.
Matt the White Mage, who was banished from the Heroes
Party is picked up by an s Raank Adventure. This

(01:53:02):
White Mage is too out of the ordinary. That is
the title.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Wait wait you sure.

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
You were reading this sis?

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
I thought, no, that's the title. So but to be
fair though, to be fair, the TV version, that's the manga.
The TV version has been shortened and it's just scooped
up by s Rank Adventure. That is the TV version
of this. And this is also pretty new on TV,
and it is pretty darn cool. We've we've got a

(01:53:37):
couple two tropes going on in this one, you've got
an anime trope where there's a revenge theme going on.
Those ones are very very very good. And then the
second trope that's going on here is you have the
person who's actually really really powerful but thinks that he sucks.
He's like very very undervalues his skills, doesn't realize that

(01:54:01):
he's like the most powerful person in the entire show.
He thinks that he's like trash level, so, which is
really funny. It adds a layer of comedy, and it's
very very good, very good. Both of these two are
very very nice. And also it's a little bonus. I
have been playing a game called Absolute Tactics Daughters of Mercy.

(01:54:22):
It's a tactics game, so it's right up my alley,
and I think it's very possible I might actually put
some videos. It's not a new game or anything. It's
sent out for a few years. But there's no videos
on this thing. Really hardly an nice.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Well, if our listeners wanted to see those videos, where
could they see that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
So they would go to my YouTube channel, which is
the Dungeon Master Elite YouTube channel, that's Dungeon Master Elite.
There's no spaces and I've got videos on other tactical
RPGs like Felfield Arbutus Mark Tactics over Reborn, and also
a large array of videos on the Soul series, including

(01:55:01):
other foos like Games Too So Bloodborne, uh Darctors one,
two three, Elden ring that type of stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (01:55:10):
All right, Tim when you want to take us home?

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Thanks for listening to the Middle Aged Reviews podcast and
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(01:55:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Thanks, stay cool and buy everyone. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
There's nudity and then there's dudity, and I don't want
to see another movie with dudity.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Thanks Joe Yeah, Thanks Joey's

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