February 5, 2024 • 46 mins
When June Edwards speaks about her brushes with the beyond, you can't help but lean in a little closer. Our latest episode is a rousing testament to the transformative journey of a psychic medium who navigated spectral visions as a child, only to be catapulted into the fifth dimension following a near-death experience. Embark on an odyssey that promises to leave you with a deeper understanding of spiritual connections and the power they wield in our everyday lives.
Finally, we unravel the tapestry of life's lessons woven by our relationships, discussing the spiritual classifications from karmic bonds to twin flames, and the distinct wisdom each imparts. The nuanced dance between skepticism and belief is given center stage, as we recount personal narratives that illustrate the profound impact of spiritual openness. Join us for riveting dialogues that challenge our perceptions, inspire trust in life's rhythms, and explore what it means to truly embrace the unknown.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome everyone to another episode of
Middle-Age-ish.
We are doing things a littledifferent this season and not
making Trisha do all our intros.
So, with that being said, I'mAshley Badosky and I'm joined
here today with my fabulousco-host, lisa Kelly, dr Pam
Wright and Trisha Kennedy-Roman.
(00:59):
We are going to be talking withJune Edwards on this episode.
She is a renowned psychicmedium who has worked on missing
persons cases as well asconsulted with many well-known
paranormal groups.
She is a sought after speaker,best-selling author which, by
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the way, I've already downloadedone of her books and she is
also a relationship coach.
So huge welcome to you, june.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Welcome.
Yes, thank you for being on.
This is we're excited, becausethis is very different than
anything we've done before, butright up my alley.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, right up my alley yes.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
This is all Ashley here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So super, super excited.
First off, when did you firstrealize that you had something
extra special?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, I don't know that I would have called it
extra special back then, but thefirst time anything really
happened to me I was about threeyears old and I remember
hearing somebody call my namewhen I was in bed.
So I got up, assuming it was myparents, went in their room and
they both asleep.
I went back to my bed and thenstarted realizing that I was
seeing faces all around my bedand all around my room, which
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was kind of scary, and I pulledthe covers up over my head and
as the sun started to come up, Istarted seeing the shadows of
them getting almost face to facewith me with the sheet over my
face.
It was very frightening as achild and I continued to know
things.
Basically, and as I get olderand I would tell the kids in
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school stuff that was going tohappen before it happened, you
really quickly get called afreak.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh, my goodness, yes, yes.
Did you have the support ofyour family and siblings?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, I came from a very broken home.
I'm one of eight children.
My dad kidnapped the last fiveof us when I was around 10, told
us our mom was crazy and thatshe threw us out.
In reality, my mom was a mediumand I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh wow, is that something you found with other
mediums, you know, is that it'skind of a genetic trait?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So everyone has the ability and I used to teach
psychic development andmediumship development and it's
kind of like playing a piano.
Some people sit down and justplay chopsticks, other people
can apply it and really, youknow, try to learn a couple of
songs.
Other people really want toplay the piano and they become
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concert pianists and I'm likethe six year old protege that
sits down and plays Mozart and Ibelieve some of that is genetic
and I also believe that a lotof that has to do with the fact
that I died at 27.
I went to the other side and Icame back here by choice and
when you think of quantumphysics and the speed of light,
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it's more than 300 million milesa second.
So in my soul that energy wentinto that light and traveled
that fast and then came backinto my body.
My energetic vibration isautomatically much higher than
most people's, so I can connectin seconds.
I can go back and forth to thefifth dimension at will.
My abilities are pretty beyond.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Wow, I've seen a lot.
Now there's a lot of TV showsand documentaries about on the
other side.
Can you tell us anything aboutwhat you remember from that?
Sure?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So I didn't see any tunnel or anything.
I immediately, you know, whenthey I was injected with a
medium that I was allergic to, Iimmediately just died and was
immediately whisked to what Inow know to be the fifth
dimension, the lowest level ofheaven, and it was just amazing.
On the other side, what I'velearned is that the two things
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we take with us are knowledgeand feelings, not just love.
I used to think it was justlove, because I was overwhelmed
with love when I was there, butI've since brought people
through.
They're still in despair andsadness, so we bring through all
of our feelings, but it wasjust beautiful.
It was very white, very light.
You don't have a body, soyou're not feeling any of the
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pains or sensations that youwould feel with a body.
And I suddenly started.
You know, I could seeeverything happening below me
and I could hear everythinggoing on in the hospital,
conversations in the hallway.
But I suddenly started watchinga movie of my life.
I had a life review and it waslike sitting in the front row of
an IMAX theater.
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You know, it's so big and hugeand the only thing yeah, the
only thing that was in my moviewas all the good things that
happened in my life, the momentsthat brought me joy, things
like that, and I often wonder ifthey didn't do that just so I
would make the decision to comeback.
But that wasn't why I made thedecision.
I remember that I had twochildren here and I have three
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now.
I wouldn't have had my thirdone had I not come back, and I
knew that they were the biggestreason that I was here in this
lifetime and that's what broughtme the most joy.
And as soon as I made thatdecision, I was back in my body
in a second.
I was told that it was not mytime.
I could stay if I wanted to orI could come back, and I never
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called it an NDE.
I never even heard the termuntil a few years ago.
I always called it a deathexperience because I knew I died
.
But what I've learned since isthat less than 10% of the people
that have an NDE make it to thelevel that I made it to, or
have a full life review, andeven less given an option to
come back.
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They're either told they can'tstay and they're whisked right
back, or they stay and we don'thear about it.
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, I just think it's amazing.
I'm just sitting here and justand in awe, actually, because
this is something that, I mean,I've just believed in for a very
long time Do your children showsimilar gifts or abilities?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They do.
So I think most of my family isall psychic.
Like I said, I'm one of eightchildren and most people that
have a lot of ability.
If they don't learn how tocontrol it, you get into drugs
and alcohol because you can'tshut it off.
I was fortunate enough to findthe right teachers at the right
time and spent a year and a halfin training to learn how to
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turn it on and off like a lightswitch and understand what's
happening, who I'm talking with,and then my education took over
.
From the other side but my oldersister, who's 10 years older
than me, we've always had, evenwhen I was younger, such a
connection that we'd be callingeach other on the phone and this
would happen every nightbecause we would talk every
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night and every time we calledwe both get busy signals and it
would be an hour before we couldget through to each other
because we're each calling theother person and we figure it
out.
So we hang up and we wait forthe other one and the other
one's doing the same thing andI'm no one's calling and then we
start doing it again andthey're both busy signals.
It's ridiculous, but her and Ihave always had a really tight
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psychic connection and mychildren I have three boys, and
boys are a little less open thangirls are with certain things
because of the situation withthem.
One of them's actually military, so he never says a word.
But it was funny.
He called me up after my mompassed away and he called me on
the phone and the first thingout of his mouth was Mom, you
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know, I don't believe inanything that you do, right?
I'm like, okay, he goes, butgrandma came to see me last
night.
I'm like I'm sure she did.
I don't know what to think forit.
He's like, yep, she woke me upand there she was, standing
there right next to my bed forthe longest time.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Those are amazing gifts.
That happened to me when myuncle passed, because it was
very difficult for me and it wasone of those experiences
because, like I said, I'vebelieved in this for a very long
time, but it really was one ofthe things that you know, we had
a whole conversation about whyI was so sad and that I needed
that he was happy and he wasgood and I needed to move on.
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So those are, you know, if theydo happen and you are open to
it, it is, you know, a gift in alot of cases when that happens.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So if you're just out of the grocery store or
something, is that things canjust come to you randomly, or do
you have to try to connect?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, I see things all over the place.
If anybody saw what I saw, I'dbe like watching, you know, an
episode of the Walking Dead,because they're everywhere.
I call them low vibrationalentities, the ghosts that are
hanging around.
If someone has a demonicattachment, I see that
immediately.
It looks like a dark shadowthat you're given a piggyback
ride to.
But if I'm not working I don'tinteract with them.
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So I try not to pick up ontheir psychic messages either,
but sometimes I do.
You know, I was in the grocerystore one day and there happened
to be a guy over near the doorwho looked like he was probably,
you know, an alcoholic or drugaddict when he passed away and
he knew that I could see him andhe was angry and I said look,
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I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm notworking.
And he was very upset about itand he goes like I know you can
see me, I know you can see me,Like, look, I'm sorry.
Meanwhile I'm still kind ofcoming back with my carriage,
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're still shopping .
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He picked up a package of hot dog rolls or
hamburger rolls and he threwthem at me and he had a lot of
energy and they literally onlywent probably three feet from
the shelf.
But the poor woman at the cashregister stood there and watched
this and she looked at me andshe's like, oh my God, did you
just see that happen?
And I'm like, yep, and I justkept walking, so how?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
does it work?
Obviously, if you're around andyou feel the energy or I don't
really understand how it works,for instance, when you do like
zoom and everything, how do youget that?
How do you bring through energy, like over the?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
internet.
So energy is energy.
It's like a radio station,right?
How do we pick up the radiostation from thousands miles
away?
Right, you have a receiver.
So I'm basically just areceiver, that's all I am for
that energy.
So it doesn't matter where it'scoming from and everybody.
If you tap into energy andlearn how energy works.
Everyone's walked into awedding or birthday party and
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felt that high elated energy.
If they've been in love feltthat high energy, right, and
everybody's walked into afuneral and felt that low energy
.
So it's a matter ofunderstanding how energy feels
first of all, so that you caneven read a room when you walk
into it or know whether or notyou know this is somebody that
you wanna connect with in yourbusiness life or in your
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personal life, or it's someonethat you don't want around you
because the energy is very, verylow and low energy people.
You know it's the old adage, ofmisery likes company, right.
So the people that you bringinto your life are all on the
same energetic vibration thatyou are.
And if you don't like thepeople that you're surrounding
yourself with or that you'rebringing into your life or into
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your business or anything else,raise your vibration and you'll
start bringing people in on ahigher vibration.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And June, do you like , are there people that you come
across that just don't havepeople around them, or do you
believe that everybody hassomebody?
So if somebody comes to you fora reading, are there times that
you would turn around and go Idon't see anything, I can't
there's something blocking.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, it doesn't really work that way.
You know, it's very unusual.
When there are people coming inwith someone, that's unusual,
okay, yeah.
And then eventually someonewill, you know, tell me who they
wanna talk to and I have themcall them in their head by their
name and I describe who showsup.
Now I can see like asemi-circle of lots and lots of
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people, because everyone that'sconnected will suddenly show up
hoping it'll either get calledon or I'll mess up and say let
anybody through and boom,they're all trying to get in.
I have what's called agatekeeper on the other side.
A gatekeeper is the one steadyperson that's with me all the
time, and everyone has agatekeeper and his job is
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specifically to bring the soulsthrough one at a time and only
let them through to me when I'mworking, unless it's an
emergency.
That's the.
You know.
I've only had two souls comethrough to me when I was not
working.
That were emergencies.
Other than that, I can't be onall the time.
I can't have them coming to meall the time.
You just can't be like that.
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When my abilities first openedup again about 10 or 11 years
ago, it was a thousand timesworse than when I was a child
and I woke up in the morningagain with 20 or 30 souls around
my bed, because your energyattracts them and when they know
you hear them and see them, itattracts them.
It's just like if you have ahaunted house, you got one ghost
in your house.
Let me tell you, you've got alot of ghosts in your house,
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cause they'll all converge there.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
That's what they do.
Yes, yes, exactly.
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So the ones that come through, are they?
So they are, most of them likethey have passed on and they are
to that, I mean to that nextlevel, or they end that like in
between.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So there's no such thing as an in between.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They're either.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
They're either stuck here, okay, in low vibration,
which is, you know, human beingsare in low vibration, okay,
your soul is who you are, you'renot the suit that sits here,
but you're in a lower vibrationwhen you're here because you're
in the 3D realm right here.
When you go to sleep at night,your vibration actually rises
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and you go into that dream state, that sandwich state that's 4D
and the lowest level of heavenis 5D.
So if you're not connectingwith them during the day and
raising a vibration so that youcan hear them and talk to them,
then what they'll do is they'lllower their vibration and meet
you in your dream state at night, that 4D space.
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So you'll know it's a visitbecause it seems real.
You wake up right away and youremember it all.
That is a visit from the otherside.
It's not a dream, okay.
So your soul, part of it's inyour body, part of it is over
your body, that people call anaura, that some people can see,
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and the majority of your body,of your soul, is in the lowest
level of heaven 5D and itorchestrates the timing of all
the events that happen in yourlife.
So when you're meditating andyou're getting in touch with
your soul.
You're not just getting intouch with the soul that's
inside your body, you're gettingin touch with the majority of
your soul that's in the lowestlevel of heaven and that has all
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the knowledge of all yourlifetimes.
So this is why you suddenlystart getting download.
Your ears will ring if you'redoing that and getting in touch
with your soul and yourvibration rises exponentially.
And then, when you learn how tobalance your energy out, you
can keep it at that level, andthis is where the law of
attraction kicks in.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So what made you start?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
writing.
So, I had been working on myautobiography for years and when
my kids were young they'd findthat on my computer and I'd have
to delete the whole thing andthen I had it on a disc that I
lost.
So I started it all over fromscratch again about 10 years ago
or nine or 10 years ago.
And I was working on that.
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I was teaching psychicdevelopment and mediumship
development and I just kepthearing you got to write the
book, you got to write the book,and I'm like I'm writing the
book.
And they're like no, not thatbook.
I'm like what?
Like you need to write a bookabout what you're teaching so
that the students have somethingto take home as a handbook.
I'm like oh, okay, so if youwant me to do that, you're going
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to have to help me do it,because I'm writing this book,
I'm taking care of my mom who'spassing, and I'm teaching as
well.
So I channeled the highestguide I could on the other side
and I wrote and published myfirst book in six weeks.
Then I went back and finishedmy autobiography and published
that.
And the reason that I publishedmy autobiography is because too
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many people would come to mefor counseling, relationship
issues and things and it's like,oh well, you don't know what
I've been through, you can'timagine growing up like I did.
You don't know the burdens thatI can't.
I'm like, really there's notmuch I've been through in life
that you haven't been.
So please don't cry me a river.
You know, if I can do it, youcan do it, and that was the
reason that I wrote myautobiography and then I created
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the relationship masteryprogram and that's because
everybody kept coming to me forhelp about their relationships.
So again, it was divinelyguided and it's a seven week
program.
I really put the programtogether in just a couple of
months but it took me overalmost a year and a half to get
the all the automation donebecause I did everything myself.
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It was a real learning process.
But I put hundreds of peoplethrough that program and I only
work with one person in therelationship, not two.
It only takes one person tomake or break any situation in
life and when you change,everything else around you
changes, because for everyaction there's an equal, a
greater reaction, and I wouldnever tell anyone whether or not
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they should stay in therelationship they're in, even if
it was an abusive relationship,because that's not my call,
that's your call, but only whenyou're in touch with your soul.
So we have a brain in our heads,right as in this 3D body, and
our brain is a computer and ithelps you process your
information.
But your brain has a veryspecific job.
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Your brain's job is to protectyou.
How does it do that?
It does it by creating fear.
So people are making all thedecisions in life based on fear,
and when you do that, it'sliterally a 50 50 crapshoot.
Sometimes it works out,sometimes it doesn't work out,
but you're always questioningyour decision.
So when you can get in touchwith your soul, that's the
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knowing.
You know what you're supposedto do, you don't question it,
you just do it and it works out1000%.
So I've had a few people havegone through my program that
were in very abusiverelationships and any counselor
would have told them run for thehills, right, that's not my
call.
And lo and behold, once theygot in touch with their soul and
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did the program, their soultold them this is where they're
supposed to be, they're supposedto stay, and, sure enough, by
changing the way they did thingsand looking at changing their
energy because you're on, youknow the same frequency as the
people in your life.
Your partner is on the samefrequencies with you as well.
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So when you raise yourvibration, the person that's in
your life will raise theirvibration as well, and if they
don't, they're going to drop off.
It's that simple.
So they belonged together.
So there and his energy didchange those both couples, their
energy did change and when youknow they started doing, the
whole dynamic of therelationship changes, because
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when you do things differently,they do things differently, and
when you can see it from ahigher perspective and
understand why you're there.
Hence the reason all there andloving karma.
There's five soul lessons youhave to.
You have to learn.
Both of those relationships thatwere very abusive turned right
around and that person that theywere with became the most
loving and caring individual wasincredible.
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The whole dynamic justcompletely changed.
But because they followed theirsoul and knew this is where
they were supposed to be.
So again, the result of that,of everyone that went through
that program, hundreds andhundreds of people are all doing
the same five soul lessons andthe program can teach them all
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five of them, and that's thereason that I wrote the book, so
people can identify those.
Why do you keep going throughthe same stuff with different
people?
How come you can't keep moneyin your life?
It goes right out your hands.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
When you're talking, obviously there's four of us
here.
Do you?
When?
When you're like, do you feellike energy is from us just
talking, or how does I?
I'm so fascinated by this, I'mlike.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I pick up in on energy everywhere, everywhere.
It's what I do.
You know it's not so, it's notexhausting, because you have to
learn how to channel energy.
Yeah, and one of the bestthings I can recommend to people
is go take a Reiki class,because Reiki class will teach
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you how to become a piece ofwire and channel the energy
through you.
You don't ever want to use yourenergy, you want to channel the
energy through you.
That's what it's all about.
So, and when I'm connecting tothe other side, it's my soul
that's connecting.
The only time my body ends upfeeling any of it is talking for
hours on end and doing six oreight hours, or sitting for six
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or eight hours.
My body will start feeling thetired effects of that, but
certainly not from the energy Iget.
You know you get more energyfrom that energy because it
raises your vibration.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And how do you deal with people who are like super
skeptical about us?
Because, again, when peopledon't understand or you know,
they have no experience of itthemselves.
Do?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
you find it insulting , or do you?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
even bother.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It's not insulting to me.
I believe system is based onwhat we've learned and what we
experienced, and once you'veexperienced something different,
your belief system changes.
So, quite honestly, I neverbelieved in Jesus or saints or
angels.
I never believed in any ofthose things.
I was brought up in manyreligions and, although I always
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believed there was a higherpower, I thought the rest of it
was a bunch of hooey peoplesitting there, you know,
chanting on beads, and you knowMother Mary statue in the
bathtub, on the lawn or in thecar.
Well, let me tell you somethingafter dying and coming back,
they are all very, very real.
Every religion is right, everyreligion is wrong, and all of
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these saints and all of theseangels, they all exist and they
all are there to help us.
And it's real.
It's very, very real.
I've brought through FirstAngel they ever came through.
It to me was an archangel andit was so overwhelming and so
huge.
I was on my knees on the floorin tears.
And that she came through whenI was doing Reiki on a client.
It was just unbelievable.
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So yeah, your belief systemchanges when something happens.
So if somebody comes to me andthey think I'm, you know I'm
full of crap.
I'm this and that's fine.
That's your belief system.
My job isn't to change you.
My job is to try and help thepeople that want to learn
something different Everyonethat's listening to this podcast
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.
There's nothing random in thisworld.
Everything happens for a reason.
There's something that I'msaying that's important to you
and is meant for you.
So at some point in time,everyone experiences a miracle.
It always happens, and I'veonly known one atheist in my
life and he was a good friend ofmine.
I never knew he was an atheistand we had a conversation one
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day and he told me, and I wasshocked, and he says, yeah, I
think we're just like ants.
And when you know, when it'sdone, it's over.
I'm like, oh, my God, no, andyou know, fast forward a few
years.
I asked him again you know, soyou're still an atheist.
I'm just curious.
He goes no, absolutely not.
I said, well, what happened?
He goes I can't talk about itLike, oh, okay, but Something.
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Usually, you know, I've nevermet an atheist on the deathbed.
I really haven't.
Yeah, even my own father whoyou know my mother was crazy and
you know, but I was nuts doingwhat I'm doing when he was dying
, asked me one day he's.
When I went up to see him, hewas in his bed.
I said no, he says I want totalk to you about what you do.
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I said oh, oh, really Okay,what do you want to know?
He's like well, he goes um, IWake up every morning and I see
my mother standing my by my bed.
I Want to know why.
And then I want to know why shedisappears after like a minute.
I said well.
I said about time you see her.
She's been standing here forabout a year.
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I said you know she's gonna behelping you when it's time to go
to the other side, she'll bring, she'll bring you with her.
Well, welcome, she disappears.
I said because You're fineseeing her when you're in your
4d dream state, but as soon asyou wake up, your brain engages
and you can't believe that she'sthere.
So you don't see her, that'sincredible.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I think that how can you walk through this life I
know we've talked about thisbefore, but, like, how can you
walk through this life and notFeel that there needs to be a
higher purpose and there's areason, that thing like you're
going through what you're goingthrough because otherwise, why,
why, why suffer, why feel thepain, why you know?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
you know, every everything is relative, right,
right, everything's relative andeverything's perspective.
So we come here for a lot ofreasons.
When you think about it, we'reon the other side for quite a
long time eternity is a long,long time and when you're on the
other side, you don't have abody, so you can't smell, you
can't taste, you can't have sex.
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There's lots of things youcan't do without a body, and we
learn our lessons faster hereThan we do on the other side,
and we learn them faster stillwithin a relationship.
So we come here for a minivacation, we come here to learn
our lessons that we're supposedto be learning our soul lessons,
and we come here to collect ourkarma or pay karma.
(26:28):
Now, karma is created when youdo something to someone else in
this lifetime and you do nothave remorse and you do not make
amends.
Okay, so even if you can't makeamends, at least if you have
remorse, you may not be creatingkarma.
You might be, you might not be,but karma is not really a bad
thing.
Okay, karma is there to helpteach.
(26:52):
So let's just say that youstole money from someone in a
past lifetime.
You've now, you didn't pay themback and you said too bad.
Well, now you've created karmawith that person in a past
lifetime.
You owe them in this lifetime.
When they come back in thislifetime doesn't mean they're
going to steal from you.
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They might become your boss andteach you how money works and
that you have to earn money inthe value of money.
So they're always trying toteach you and help you with your
lessons.
So there's three types ofrelationships.
There is the karmicrelationship, and you know it's
a karmic relationship because itnever really feels right.
There's always something thatyou can't put your finger on.
(27:35):
You're looking for red flagsand it doesn't matter if it's a
sexual relationship, afriendship or family member.
Okay.
And as soon as one or the otherof you have learned the lesson
you're supposed to be learning,a Karmic relationship ends
immediately.
It's like you wake up onemorning and say why do I have
this person in my life?
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I want nothing to do with themand you're done.
If you both learn the lesson,then it will end amicably.
If only one or the Other haslearned the lesson, it will end,
but it will not be amicable,okay.
Then you have the soulmaterelationship.
Soulmate relationship is alsothere to teach you something, or
you can teach the other person.
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However, it's also there toafford you some love and comfort
along the way, and a soulmaterelationship Does not have to
end once one or the other haslearned the lesson.
That really depends on what youwrote into your life plan,
because you plan this lifebefore you got here, believe it
or not, and Nothing reallyhappens to you, but it happens
(28:38):
for you.
So if you can't stay on trackfor your plan, the universe
steps in to give you a littlepush.
It's what they do and you maynot like the push you get.
Say you're supposed to move andyou keep putting it off and
Heming and Haran, I don't wantto move, but I don't.
Well, they might burn yourhouse down.
So you've got no choice but tomove right, put you back on the
path that you planned before youcame here.
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Then there's a twin flamerelationship, which is extremely
rare.
If there's way too muchmisinformation all around the
internet because of all themovies that came out, a Twin
flame is literally one soul thatsplit in two and then
reincarnated into two bodies,and they will always come back
into two separate bodies afterthat point and they will meet at
(29:19):
some predetermined time in thislifetime and when it happens
it's always extremely sexual,extremely passionate, extremely
psychic, and it just blows yourworld up and puts you on the
path that you're supposed to beon in life.
And Then you separate and theyonly last for a few weeks to a
(29:40):
few months.
And if you're both able tolearn the five lessons that
you're supposed to be learningand getting on the path that
you're supposed to be on andTwin flames have a higher path
than most people they hear tohelp humanity Then you'll have
an opportunity to reunite inthis lifetime.
Otherwise you won't and you'llhave to wait till you get to the
other side again.
But they're veryheart-wrenching relationships
because Nothing will evercompare to that.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
So for the rest of your life You're gonna be
settling if you decide to bewith someone else so you think
that then when you're talkingabout learning lessons, that we
just Kind of re-rotate, recycleand tell if you've learned?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
your lessons?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
you don't do that anymore.
How does, how does so you also.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Let me explain the five lessons, because some
people need all of them, somepeople needed some of them, but
the lessons are alwaysreinforcing each other.
Okay, so the first lesson isself-worth, and Self-worth is
not Value.
Value is what other peopleplace on you.
Self-worth is the understandingthat you are so special that
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the universe felt that we neededyou here.
There is only one of you.
That's it.
Even if you're a twin, you'redifferent.
Now I heard today that they havedifferent fingerprints.
I'm gonna have to research that.
I didn't know that.
But you definitely havedifferent thoughts, different
ideas, and I guarantee yourparents can tell you apart.
But there's only one of youhere.
That's it.
(31:05):
And it's understanding that itis not selfish and it's not
narcissistic to put yourselffirst.
Society wants you to think thatit's where everything else
comes from.
If you can't take care of you,how are you ever gonna take care
of anybody else?
You won't be here to take careof anybody else, right?
And no one else has power overyou to make you do anything.
(31:26):
I can't make you love me.
I can't make you hate me.
No one has that power but you.
So no one can make you happybut you either.
I'm always hearing oh, whenthis happens, I'll be happy.
When I meet that person, I'llbe happy.
No, you have to be happy first,and then your happiness will
ping pong off of other peopleand you will track Someone else
(31:48):
that's happy as well.
And you also have to practiceself-love.
That all comes with Self-worth.
You have to love yourself forwho you are and if you don't
like who you are, change who youare.
There's something that youabout you that you don't like.
Change it.
If you've got a bad habit thatyou don't like, change it.
You have to like you, whoeveryou are, for who you are and no
(32:10):
matter what you look like,because, again, that's not who
you are.
You're the soul inside.
That's who you truly are.
The second lesson we all come tolearn is trust and
communication, and you have totrust that there's a higher
power, because there is, there'sonly one, no matter what you
want to call it, and you have totrust that there's a plan and
that you made the plan.
(32:31):
So, whatever has happening inyour life, again, it's not
happening to you, it's happeningfor you and you may not
understand it at the time, but2020 vision is wonderful, isn't
it?
We can always look back and seethe bread comes of our life and
how everything brought us tothe next thing and the next
thing and the Next thing, andhow you were going through that
terrible all-deer, all and afterit's like, oh my god, if that
(32:52):
hadn't happened, I would neverhave been here.
Right, that's how it works.
So you have to trust the planand you have to be able to
communicate your wants and yourneeds to the people around you,
whether it's a partner, anemployee, a child.
People don't know what you want, what you need, unless you tell
them.
We just don't know by osmosis.
Okay, and you also have to beable to trust the person enough
(33:17):
that you're with to communicatewith them, because sex is
nothing more than another formof communication in the bedroom.
If you don't trust them andcommunicate with them outside
the bedroom, you're not going tobe able to do it inside the
bedroom.
Then you have unconditionallove.
Now people will argue with methat, oh no, there's always a
condition.
Well then, you have to learnhow to remove that condition.
(33:40):
That's your challenge in life,because, let's say, you're in an
abusive relationship and you'replaying the martyr and you're
staying in it because I'msupposed to love them
unconditionally, I can't leave.
Well, that's a self-worthlesson that's kicking in right.
Unconditional love would besaying to the person and meaning
(34:04):
it.
Listen, it was a good run, okay, I really want the best for you
.
I love you and care about you,but I love me and care about me
too.
We need to go our separate ways.
It's not working.
It's not bad mouthing them onceyou're down the street either.
It's really one of them to havethe best in their life and you
can have the best in your life.
(34:24):
Let's say you had a child thatyou love unconditionally and
they do something horrific, saythey murder a neighbor and a
fitter age and they go to prisonfor the rest of their life.
You don't like what your childdid, but I sure hope you're
still going to unconditionallylove that child.
Okay, then you have money inbalance.
So what people don't realize isthat money is energy.
(34:46):
This is why it's calledcurrency, and everything in the
universe has to stay in balance.
We have evil and good, we havenight and day, left and right,
and money is the tool that weuse in this 3D world to show
whether or not your life is inbalance.
Everything has to be an evenexchange of energy.
(35:06):
You don't walk into a grocerystore and plop down a million
dollars to buy a gallon of milkNot yet.
It has to be an even exchange.
Okay, when I first started myrelationship mastery program, I
gave it to some veterans at nocharge.
Do you know?
They didn't do it because ithad no value, it was free.
It has to be an equal exchangeof energy.
(35:27):
Let's say you're working 80hours a week and you're trying
to save you money and get ahead.
Well, now your life's completelyout of balance.
You don't have time for yourfamily, your friends, your own
hobbies, and then, if you're notspending that money, you don't
have enough self-worth to evenspend the fruits of your labor
on yourself.
Then self-worth kicks back inright.
(35:48):
It keeps circling back aroundand people have to understand,
because money is energy.
It has to flow, just likeenergy does.
The more you put out, the morecomes back.
The more you put out, the morecomes back.
You can't just sit there andhoard it.
That's not what it's there for.
And the last lesson that wehave is patience.
Patience is very difficult forpeople nowadays because we live
(36:11):
in this world of instantgratification.
Right, everything comes to youat the perfect time, the time
that you planned it.
How ridiculous would it be ifevery little five-year-old girl
that wants to get married andhave babies, right, they got the
little baby dolls, the stalksthat's delivering them or the
UPS guys that's delivering themat the door right they come,
(36:33):
everything happens and comes atthe perfect time.
And you know your biologicalclock is ticking.
Oh, I haven't gotten marriedyet.
Maybe you clearly you didn'twrite it into your plan yet.
If that's the case and itdoesn't mean it's never going to
happen Maybe when you're 50,you're going to marry a widower
and raise his young children forhim.
It really depends what youwrote in your plan, and this
(36:56):
goes back to the trust.
You've got to trust that youwrote the plan for your highest
and best and it will always workout that way, as long as you
trust it.
There are things that I do thatI have no idea why I'm doing
them.
I'm just hearing that I'msupposed to do them and I have
to trust that I'm supposed to dothem and I do them, and it may
be a year or two later when I oh, my God, this is why I'm doing
(37:18):
this.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I truly believe that's the way your life is
supposed to be.
I really I agree too.
Everything that has happened.
Do you think it's such adisaster at the time?
And then you realize why ithappened, that it happened to
you or for you, not to you Like.
It's just such an incrediblelesson, life lesson for anybody
to learn.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I mean it is, there's nothing worse than being in it,
because it's like saying youcan't see the forest for the
trees Right.
So you have to find somethingto remove yourself from the
situation and stop being in itso that you can see the why
behind it and the higherperspective.
(38:02):
And when you can really startseeing your life from a higher
perspective, you don't take allthis stuff so seriously anymore
Because you realize it'shappening for a reason.
It's part of my experience,it's part of my learning, or my
teaching.
It's going to pass.
The rainbow will be back.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I mean I just know, for me personally, I mean that's
where you find peace is whenyou realize that there is a
purpose for everything and thatyou're here for a reason,
whatever that might be.
But to trust the process andeven like through tough times I
mean, again, we've talked aboutall of this stuff but you know,
(38:42):
through tough times andheartache and sadness and stress
and fear, if you can just havefaith and, like you said,
whatever that is it, you know,whatever faith it is, but when
you can try your best to putfaith before fear, it does bring
a sense of peace that you justagain, you have to trust the
(39:06):
process, but there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
There's always a reason and it's interesting.
So people pray, right?
People pray.
When you pray, you're askingthe universe.
When you meditate, when you getin touch with your soul through
meditation, you get youranswers.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Well, I am super excited for my reading on Friday
with you, june and again, Iknow this is much more my kind
of thing, because I do I dobelieve in all of this and I do
absolutely believe that there'sa higher power and that there's
a purpose and there's a reasonwhy each of us are here.
(39:43):
So I think that you're justabsolutely fascinating and,
again, so incredibly excited andgrateful that you wanted to
come on.
You wanted to talk to us, youwanted to just be really raw and
you know.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Give us more information that I can give
people, the more I can helppeople understand and take away
that fear.
That's my goal.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I so appreciate you wanting to share your story
Because, like you said, it's noteasy sometimes to talk about
because there is so manyskeptics, and I love the fact
that you're completely okay withthat, and so I'm just grateful
that you wanted to come in andtalk about something that really
fascinates me.
So I feel very selfish.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I'm great.
It's a great way to hear aboutit.
Oh, my goodness, I feel veryselfish because, I am just like
sitting here, which I'm not thequiet one of the group at all,
but I have completely taken thisin for the duration of our, you
know us talking with each other, so it's just so nice to talk
(40:49):
to somebody completely different, like it's just something for I
know you've had, you've hadexperience of it, but the rest
of it well.
I don't think anybody else hasbut it's just it's just
fascinating.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Fascinating.
Thank you so much.
We really appreciate your time.
You're very welcome.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, I welcome those on my website that people can
go listen to and watch from mystudents.
There's a free webinar they cansign up for and learn a little
bit more about energy, if they'dlike, perfect.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So very cool.
No, thank you again.
Thank you, I will probably talkto you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
June have such a great evening.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Thank you, you as well.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I'm just so excited about like the movie Ghost was
true, because that was all themedium, that was all like what
she was based.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, guys, I think it's easy
for me because I believe in thisstuff, I know, and so you know
I felt really interested too.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I like some of it.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I'm struggling with.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
And that's.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think that that's the beauty of it, is that's
totally fine, like I mean Icould.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
And I think that that's that's.
The thing is just being okay ifsomeone thinks a different way.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
We just said that last week.
Yeah, I don't know about that,about having different opinions
and that's that's okay and Iwould love to believe, but, like
this is my question, I didn'task her because I ask enough
questions.
But why do you think, like yousaid, your uncle came to you?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Why was really oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Well, like, why do you think, like certainly, like
I mean, I've had a lot of lostin my life Like, why do you
think, and I've never had thatcome through, why do you think
that some people come through?
And because I've alwaysstruggled with that, because I'm
like, if anyone like my dad, ifhe could come to me, like I
know he'd come to me.
So why do you think that?
That is Because I've alwaysbeen very open to it.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
And again, it's not.
It's not like someone lovessomeone more or whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's not that at all.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But I do think that there's a sense of you kind of
have to believe a little bit forit to be open, because I mean,
otherwise you'd probably beterrified, like if you woke up
and someone was standing thereor you know.
So that's, that's how Irationalize it, just because I'm
(43:06):
super open to it, and again,but that's because that's part
of my belief system.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
But yeah, no, I don't think like the closest I would
feel to a spirit in my lifewould be my grandmother, but
I've never had a dream about her, ever, ever.
She's never in my dreams, never.
Although, did I tell you thestory about her picture falling
in my house?
No, my grandmother, my husband,was very, very close to my
(43:33):
grandmother.
They only knew each other for avery short time, right, and he
carries her memoriam card aroundeverywhere.
She goes everywhere with them.
She goes and does his iron line.
Oh God, she like he just adoredher and she loved him.
As I said, it was a very briefkind of relationship, and when
we had moved to Georgiainitially and Scott had been
offered a job back up inPennsylvania and we were sitting
(43:55):
in our sitting room and we weresitting opposite each other in
the, the arm chairs oppositeeach other and on the bookcase
or upside the TV, mygrandmother's picture is there
and she's on every bookcase inevery house we've ever lived in.
That's where she stays.
And we were just talking andScott was like I just don't know
what to do.
I just I wish somebody wouldjust tell me what to do.
(44:16):
And with that her picture fellover, like there was no reason
for her picture to fall over.
It just actually fell over andthe two of us were like, oh my
gosh, what's she saying?
Oh my God, yeah.
Then he was mad that she didn'tgive like a yes or no, but like
strange things like that alwayskind of happen and if you know,
but she's never come to me andlike never seen her in a dream.
(44:38):
I will be open to spares.
I'm open for I've like bring onthe ghost.
I'm happy for them.
Maybe they're just, isn't itJust spirit?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, that you're, but you're at peace with it.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I think maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I think that, like anytime I've had a situation
like that, I wasn't at peacewith what happened.
Yeah.
And I was very much struggling,and so that's, that's the only
thing I think, cause I meanobviously I don't, I don't have
like, I don't have any likenothing, I just believe in this
stuff?
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, but I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I was trying to pull my dad through.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'm like okay, dad, if this is real, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Say something, Let her stop in the middle of this
and go hang on a sec.
But maybe you should do itthough.
Maybe you should do it to see.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You're not.
You're not going to hell if youdo it.
You're not.
You can do it for 30 minutesand just see what happens.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
I don't see the harmonious no.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I just was taking it all in Like everything that was
very interesting.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Be open and get that and I think it's just the
scientist part of me is Be, butthat's a, so why don't you do a
reading then?
Speaker 5 (45:40):
That would be even more fascinating it would be.
You should both just see.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I mean seriously like it's.
You can come away from itsaying that's a crock of shit,
totally fine, or you can comeaway.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
We won't do that on air, obviously, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I would not recommend doing it on air.
Yeah Well, first of all because, if someone does connect with
you and you feel like your soulfeels like you are actually
hearing something that you'resupposed to hear.
It's incredibly emotional andI'm one, as we've talked about
forever.
I do not cry.
It makes me nauseous, Likeliterally physically.
I have a reaction to it, whichI know, Dr Pam, I know.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
There's something to that, I'm having my.
I know there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I feel it, I know, I know I'm working on it, but it's
.
It can be very emotional andit's very raw, and and then the
beauty of it is that you feelwhat you're supposed to feel.
So it's, it's okay either way,like it's, you know, can you
tell?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
me how it goes and then I will.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I think you should Do you feel your dad around you
all the time.
Anyway, I think so.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
I mean I want that, but I'm not.
I don't know if it's what Iwant or what I'm really feeling.
Do you talk to him?
Uh-huh.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
So like, maybe, maybe , sad.
That's the reason you don'tneed to If she can close her
eyes and see him.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, I think, because they are with us.
Yeah, I mean a thousand percent, and sometimes that's, that's
perfection, because it's notjust a dream, it's that you, if
you feel them, they are there,they are there.
So cheers to that, cheers toghosts Cheers.
(47:21):
Here we are.
I know Twilight dolls.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
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Welcome to the Middle-Age-ish podcast,
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Join fashion and fitnessentrepreneur Ashley Badosky,
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Join your hosts on the journeyof Middle-Age-ish.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome everyone to another episode of
Middle-Age-ish.
We are doing things a littledifferent this season and not
making Trisha do all our intros.
So, with that being said, I'mAshley Badosky and I'm joined
here today with my fabulousco-host, lisa Kelly, dr Pam
Wright and Trisha Kennedy-Roman.
(00:59):
We are going to be talking withJune Edwards on this episode.
She is a renowned psychicmedium who has worked on missing
persons cases as well asconsulted with many well-known
paranormal groups.
She is a sought after speaker,best-selling author which, by
(01:20):
the way, I've already downloadedone of her books and she is
also a relationship coach.
So huge welcome to you, june.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Welcome.
Yes, thank you for being on.
This is we're excited, becausethis is very different than
anything we've done before, butright up my alley.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, right up my alley yes.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
This is all Ashley here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So super, super excited.
First off, when did you firstrealize that you had something
extra special?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, I don't know that I would have called it
extra special back then, but thefirst time anything really
happened to me I was about threeyears old and I remember
hearing somebody call my namewhen I was in bed.
So I got up, assuming it was myparents, went in their room and
they both asleep.
I went back to my bed and thenstarted realizing that I was
seeing faces all around my bedand all around my room, which
(02:14):
was kind of scary, and I pulledthe covers up over my head and
as the sun started to come up, Istarted seeing the shadows of
them getting almost face to facewith me with the sheet over my
face.
It was very frightening as achild and I continued to know
things.
Basically, and as I get olderand I would tell the kids in
(02:34):
school stuff that was going tohappen before it happened, you
really quickly get called afreak.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh, my goodness, yes, yes.
Did you have the support ofyour family and siblings?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, I came from a very broken home.
I'm one of eight children.
My dad kidnapped the last fiveof us when I was around 10, told
us our mom was crazy and thatshe threw us out.
In reality, my mom was a mediumand I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh wow, is that something you found with other
mediums, you know, is that it'skind of a genetic trait?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So everyone has the ability and I used to teach
psychic development andmediumship development and it's
kind of like playing a piano.
Some people sit down and justplay chopsticks, other people
can apply it and really, youknow, try to learn a couple of
songs.
Other people really want toplay the piano and they become
(03:26):
concert pianists and I'm likethe six year old protege that
sits down and plays Mozart and Ibelieve some of that is genetic
and I also believe that a lotof that has to do with the fact
that I died at 27.
I went to the other side and Icame back here by choice and
when you think of quantumphysics and the speed of light,
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it's more than 300 million milesa second.
So in my soul that energy wentinto that light and traveled
that fast and then came backinto my body.
My energetic vibration isautomatically much higher than
most people's, so I can connectin seconds.
I can go back and forth to thefifth dimension at will.
My abilities are pretty beyond.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Wow, I've seen a lot.
Now there's a lot of TV showsand documentaries about on the
other side.
Can you tell us anything aboutwhat you remember from that?
Sure?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So I didn't see any tunnel or anything.
I immediately, you know, whenthey I was injected with a
medium that I was allergic to, Iimmediately just died and was
immediately whisked to what Inow know to be the fifth
dimension, the lowest level ofheaven, and it was just amazing.
On the other side, what I'velearned is that the two things
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we take with us are knowledgeand feelings, not just love.
I used to think it was justlove, because I was overwhelmed
with love when I was there, butI've since brought people
through.
They're still in despair andsadness, so we bring through all
of our feelings, but it wasjust beautiful.
It was very white, very light.
You don't have a body, soyou're not feeling any of the
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pains or sensations that youwould feel with a body.
And I suddenly started.
You know, I could seeeverything happening below me
and I could hear everythinggoing on in the hospital,
conversations in the hallway.
But I suddenly started watchinga movie of my life.
I had a life review and it waslike sitting in the front row of
an IMAX theater.
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You know, it's so big and hugeand the only thing yeah, the
only thing that was in my moviewas all the good things that
happened in my life, the momentsthat brought me joy, things
like that, and I often wonder ifthey didn't do that just so I
would make the decision to comeback.
But that wasn't why I made thedecision.
I remember that I had twochildren here and I have three
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now.
I wouldn't have had my thirdone had I not come back, and I
knew that they were the biggestreason that I was here in this
lifetime and that's what broughtme the most joy.
And as soon as I made thatdecision, I was back in my body
in a second.
I was told that it was not mytime.
I could stay if I wanted to orI could come back, and I never
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called it an NDE.
I never even heard the termuntil a few years ago.
I always called it a deathexperience because I knew I died
.
But what I've learned since isthat less than 10% of the people
that have an NDE make it to thelevel that I made it to, or
have a full life review, andeven less given an option to
come back.
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They're either told they can'tstay and they're whisked right
back, or they stay and we don'thear about it.
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, I just think it's amazing.
I'm just sitting here and justand in awe, actually, because
this is something that, I mean,I've just believed in for a very
long time Do your children showsimilar gifts or abilities?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They do.
So I think most of my family isall psychic.
Like I said, I'm one of eightchildren and most people that
have a lot of ability.
If they don't learn how tocontrol it, you get into drugs
and alcohol because you can'tshut it off.
I was fortunate enough to findthe right teachers at the right
time and spent a year and a halfin training to learn how to
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turn it on and off like a lightswitch and understand what's
happening, who I'm talking with,and then my education took over
.
From the other side but my oldersister, who's 10 years older
than me, we've always had, evenwhen I was younger, such a
connection that we'd be callingeach other on the phone and this
would happen every nightbecause we would talk every
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night and every time we calledwe both get busy signals and it
would be an hour before we couldget through to each other
because we're each calling theother person and we figure it
out.
So we hang up and we wait forthe other one and the other
one's doing the same thing andI'm no one's calling and then we
start doing it again andthey're both busy signals.
It's ridiculous, but her and Ihave always had a really tight
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psychic connection and mychildren I have three boys, and
boys are a little less open thangirls are with certain things
because of the situation withthem.
One of them's actually military, so he never says a word.
But it was funny.
He called me up after my mompassed away and he called me on
the phone and the first thingout of his mouth was Mom, you
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know, I don't believe inanything that you do, right?
I'm like, okay, he goes, butgrandma came to see me last
night.
I'm like I'm sure she did.
I don't know what to think forit.
He's like, yep, she woke me upand there she was, standing
there right next to my bed forthe longest time.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Those are amazing gifts.
That happened to me when myuncle passed, because it was
very difficult for me and it wasone of those experiences
because, like I said, I'vebelieved in this for a very long
time, but it really was one ofthe things that you know, we had
a whole conversation about whyI was so sad and that I needed
that he was happy and he wasgood and I needed to move on.
(09:05):
So those are, you know, if theydo happen and you are open to
it, it is, you know, a gift in alot of cases when that happens.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
So if you're just out of the grocery store or
something, is that things canjust come to you randomly, or do
you have to try to connect?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, I see things all over the place.
If anybody saw what I saw, I'dbe like watching, you know, an
episode of the Walking Dead,because they're everywhere.
I call them low vibrationalentities, the ghosts that are
hanging around.
If someone has a demonicattachment, I see that
immediately.
It looks like a dark shadowthat you're given a piggyback
ride to.
But if I'm not working I don'tinteract with them.
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So I try not to pick up ontheir psychic messages either,
but sometimes I do.
You know, I was in the grocerystore one day and there happened
to be a guy over near the doorwho looked like he was probably,
you know, an alcoholic or drugaddict when he passed away and
he knew that I could see him andhe was angry and I said look,
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I'm not, I'm sorry, I'm notworking.
And he was very upset about itand he goes like I know you can
see me, I know you can see me,Like, look, I'm sorry.
Meanwhile I'm still kind ofcoming back with my carriage,
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're still shopping .
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He picked up a package of hot dog rolls or
hamburger rolls and he threwthem at me and he had a lot of
energy and they literally onlywent probably three feet from
the shelf.
But the poor woman at the cashregister stood there and watched
this and she looked at me andshe's like, oh my God, did you
just see that happen?
And I'm like, yep, and I justkept walking, so how?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
does it work?
Obviously, if you're around andyou feel the energy or I don't
really understand how it works,for instance, when you do like
zoom and everything, how do youget that?
How do you bring through energy, like over the?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
internet.
So energy is energy.
It's like a radio station,right?
How do we pick up the radiostation from thousands miles
away?
Right, you have a receiver.
So I'm basically just areceiver, that's all I am for
that energy.
So it doesn't matter where it'scoming from and everybody.
If you tap into energy andlearn how energy works.
Everyone's walked into awedding or birthday party and
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felt that high elated energy.
If they've been in love feltthat high energy, right, and
everybody's walked into afuneral and felt that low energy
.
So it's a matter ofunderstanding how energy feels
first of all, so that you caneven read a room when you walk
into it or know whether or notyou know this is somebody that
you wanna connect with in yourbusiness life or in your
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personal life, or it's someonethat you don't want around you
because the energy is very, verylow and low energy people.
You know it's the old adage, ofmisery likes company, right.
So the people that you bringinto your life are all on the
same energetic vibration thatyou are.
And if you don't like thepeople that you're surrounding
yourself with or that you'rebringing into your life or into
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your business or anything else,raise your vibration and you'll
start bringing people in on ahigher vibration.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And June, do you like , are there people that you come
across that just don't havepeople around them, or do you
believe that everybody hassomebody?
So if somebody comes to you fora reading, are there times that
you would turn around and go Idon't see anything, I can't
there's something blocking.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, it doesn't really work that way.
You know, it's very unusual.
When there are people coming inwith someone, that's unusual,
okay, yeah.
And then eventually someonewill, you know, tell me who they
wanna talk to and I have themcall them in their head by their
name and I describe who showsup.
Now I can see like asemi-circle of lots and lots of
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people, because everyone that'sconnected will suddenly show up
hoping it'll either get calledon or I'll mess up and say let
anybody through and boom,they're all trying to get in.
I have what's called agatekeeper on the other side.
A gatekeeper is the one steadyperson that's with me all the
time, and everyone has agatekeeper and his job is
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specifically to bring the soulsthrough one at a time and only
let them through to me when I'mworking, unless it's an
emergency.
That's the.
You know.
I've only had two souls comethrough to me when I was not
working.
That were emergencies.
Other than that, I can't be onall the time.
I can't have them coming to meall the time.
You just can't be like that.
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When my abilities first openedup again about 10 or 11 years
ago, it was a thousand timesworse than when I was a child
and I woke up in the morningagain with 20 or 30 souls around
my bed, because your energyattracts them and when they know
you hear them and see them, itattracts them.
It's just like if you have ahaunted house, you got one ghost
in your house.
Let me tell you, you've got alot of ghosts in your house,
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cause they'll all converge there.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
That's what they do.
Yes, yes, exactly.
That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So the ones that come through, are they?
So they are, most of them likethey have passed on and they are
to that, I mean to that nextlevel, or they end that like in
between.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
So there's no such thing as an in between.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They're either.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
They're either stuck here, okay, in low vibration,
which is, you know, human beingsare in low vibration, okay,
your soul is who you are, you'renot the suit that sits here,
but you're in a lower vibrationwhen you're here because you're
in the 3D realm right here.
When you go to sleep at night,your vibration actually rises
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and you go into that dream state, that sandwich state that's 4D
and the lowest level of heavenis 5D.
So if you're not connectingwith them during the day and
raising a vibration so that youcan hear them and talk to them,
then what they'll do is they'lllower their vibration and meet
you in your dream state at night, that 4D space.
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So you'll know it's a visitbecause it seems real.
You wake up right away and youremember it all.
That is a visit from the otherside.
It's not a dream, okay.
So your soul, part of it's inyour body, part of it is over
your body, that people call anaura, that some people can see,
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and the majority of your body,of your soul, is in the lowest
level of heaven 5D and itorchestrates the timing of all
the events that happen in yourlife.
So when you're meditating andyou're getting in touch with
your soul.
You're not just getting intouch with the soul that's
inside your body, you're gettingin touch with the majority of
your soul that's in the lowestlevel of heaven and that has all
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the knowledge of all yourlifetimes.
So this is why you suddenlystart getting download.
Your ears will ring if you'redoing that and getting in touch
with your soul and yourvibration rises exponentially.
And then, when you learn how tobalance your energy out, you
can keep it at that level, andthis is where the law of
attraction kicks in.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So what made you start?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
writing.
So, I had been working on myautobiography for years and when
my kids were young they'd findthat on my computer and I'd have
to delete the whole thing andthen I had it on a disc that I
lost.
So I started it all over fromscratch again about 10 years ago
or nine or 10 years ago.
And I was working on that.
(16:24):
I was teaching psychicdevelopment and mediumship
development and I just kepthearing you got to write the
book, you got to write the book,and I'm like I'm writing the
book.
And they're like no, not thatbook.
I'm like what?
Like you need to write a bookabout what you're teaching so
that the students have somethingto take home as a handbook.
I'm like oh, okay, so if youwant me to do that, you're going
(16:44):
to have to help me do it,because I'm writing this book,
I'm taking care of my mom who'spassing, and I'm teaching as
well.
So I channeled the highestguide I could on the other side
and I wrote and published myfirst book in six weeks.
Then I went back and finishedmy autobiography and published
that.
And the reason that I publishedmy autobiography is because too
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many people would come to mefor counseling, relationship
issues and things and it's like,oh well, you don't know what
I've been through, you can'timagine growing up like I did.
You don't know the burdens thatI can't.
I'm like, really there's notmuch I've been through in life
that you haven't been.
So please don't cry me a river.
You know, if I can do it, youcan do it, and that was the
reason that I wrote myautobiography and then I created
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the relationship masteryprogram and that's because
everybody kept coming to me forhelp about their relationships.
So again, it was divinelyguided and it's a seven week
program.
I really put the programtogether in just a couple of
months but it took me overalmost a year and a half to get
the all the automation donebecause I did everything myself.
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It was a real learning process.
But I put hundreds of peoplethrough that program and I only
work with one person in therelationship, not two.
It only takes one person tomake or break any situation in
life and when you change,everything else around you
changes, because for everyaction there's an equal, a
greater reaction, and I wouldnever tell anyone whether or not
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they should stay in therelationship they're in, even if
it was an abusive relationship,because that's not my call,
that's your call, but only whenyou're in touch with your soul.
So we have a brain in our heads,right as in this 3D body, and
our brain is a computer and ithelps you process your
information.
But your brain has a veryspecific job.
(18:30):
Your brain's job is to protectyou.
How does it do that?
It does it by creating fear.
So people are making all thedecisions in life based on fear,
and when you do that, it'sliterally a 50 50 crapshoot.
Sometimes it works out,sometimes it doesn't work out,
but you're always questioningyour decision.
So when you can get in touchwith your soul, that's the
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knowing.
You know what you're supposedto do, you don't question it,
you just do it and it works out1000%.
So I've had a few people havegone through my program that
were in very abusiverelationships and any counselor
would have told them run for thehills, right, that's not my
call.
And lo and behold, once theygot in touch with their soul and
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did the program, their soultold them this is where they're
supposed to be, they're supposedto stay, and, sure enough, by
changing the way they did thingsand looking at changing their
energy because you're on, youknow the same frequency as the
people in your life.
Your partner is on the samefrequencies with you as well.
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So when you raise yourvibration, the person that's in
your life will raise theirvibration as well, and if they
don't, they're going to drop off.
It's that simple.
So they belonged together.
So there and his energy didchange those both couples, their
energy did change and when youknow they started doing, the
whole dynamic of therelationship changes, because
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when you do things differently,they do things differently, and
when you can see it from ahigher perspective and
understand why you're there.
Hence the reason all there andloving karma.
There's five soul lessons youhave to.
You have to learn.
Both of those relationships thatwere very abusive turned right
around and that person that theywere with became the most
loving and caring individual wasincredible.
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The whole dynamic justcompletely changed.
But because they followed theirsoul and knew this is where
they were supposed to be.
So again, the result of that,of everyone that went through
that program, hundreds andhundreds of people are all doing
the same five soul lessons andthe program can teach them all
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five of them, and that's thereason that I wrote the book, so
people can identify those.
Why do you keep going throughthe same stuff with different
people?
How come you can't keep moneyin your life?
It goes right out your hands.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
When you're talking, obviously there's four of us
here.
Do you?
When?
When you're like, do you feellike energy is from us just
talking, or how does I?
I'm so fascinated by this, I'mlike.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I pick up in on energy everywhere, everywhere.
It's what I do.
You know it's not so, it's notexhausting, because you have to
learn how to channel energy.
Yeah, and one of the bestthings I can recommend to people
is go take a Reiki class,because Reiki class will teach
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you how to become a piece ofwire and channel the energy
through you.
You don't ever want to use yourenergy, you want to channel the
energy through you.
That's what it's all about.
So, and when I'm connecting tothe other side, it's my soul
that's connecting.
The only time my body ends upfeeling any of it is talking for
hours on end and doing six oreight hours, or sitting for six
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or eight hours.
My body will start feeling thetired effects of that, but
certainly not from the energy Iget.
You know you get more energyfrom that energy because it
raises your vibration.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And how do you deal with people who are like super
skeptical about us?
Because, again, when peopledon't understand or you know,
they have no experience of itthemselves.
Do?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
you find it insulting , or do you?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
even bother.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It's not insulting to me.
I believe system is based onwhat we've learned and what we
experienced, and once you'veexperienced something different,
your belief system changes.
So, quite honestly, I neverbelieved in Jesus or saints or
angels.
I never believed in any ofthose things.
I was brought up in manyreligions and, although I always
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believed there was a higherpower, I thought the rest of it
was a bunch of hooey peoplesitting there, you know,
chanting on beads, and you knowMother Mary statue in the
bathtub, on the lawn or in thecar.
Well, let me tell you somethingafter dying and coming back,
they are all very, very real.
Every religion is right, everyreligion is wrong, and all of
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these saints and all of theseangels, they all exist and they
all are there to help us.
And it's real.
It's very, very real.
I've brought through FirstAngel they ever came through.
It to me was an archangel andit was so overwhelming and so
huge.
I was on my knees on the floorin tears.
And that she came through whenI was doing Reiki on a client.
It was just unbelievable.
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So yeah, your belief systemchanges when something happens.
So if somebody comes to me andthey think I'm, you know I'm
full of crap.
I'm this and that's fine.
That's your belief system.
My job isn't to change you.
My job is to try and help thepeople that want to learn
something different Everyonethat's listening to this podcast
(23:36):
.
There's nothing random in thisworld.
Everything happens for a reason.
There's something that I'msaying that's important to you
and is meant for you.
So at some point in time,everyone experiences a miracle.
It always happens, and I'veonly known one atheist in my
life and he was a good friend ofmine.
I never knew he was an atheistand we had a conversation one
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day and he told me, and I wasshocked, and he says, yeah, I
think we're just like ants.
And when you know, when it'sdone, it's over.
I'm like, oh, my God, no, andyou know, fast forward a few
years.
I asked him again you know, soyou're still an atheist.
I'm just curious.
He goes no, absolutely not.
I said, well, what happened?
He goes I can't talk about itLike, oh, okay, but Something.
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Usually, you know, I've nevermet an atheist on the deathbed.
I really haven't.
Yeah, even my own father whoyou know my mother was crazy and
you know, but I was nuts doingwhat I'm doing when he was dying
, asked me one day he's.
When I went up to see him, hewas in his bed.
I said no, he says I want totalk to you about what you do.
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I said oh, oh, really Okay,what do you want to know?
He's like well, he goes um, IWake up every morning and I see
my mother standing my by my bed.
I Want to know why.
And then I want to know why shedisappears after like a minute.
I said well.
I said about time you see her.
She's been standing here forabout a year.
(25:04):
I said you know she's gonna behelping you when it's time to go
to the other side, she'll bring, she'll bring you with her.
Well, welcome, she disappears.
I said because You're fineseeing her when you're in your
4d dream state, but as soon asyou wake up, your brain engages
and you can't believe that she'sthere.
So you don't see her, that'sincredible.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I think that how can you walk through this life I
know we've talked about thisbefore, but, like, how can you
walk through this life and notFeel that there needs to be a
higher purpose and there's areason, that thing like you're
going through what you're goingthrough because otherwise, why,
why, why suffer, why feel thepain, why you know?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
you know, every everything is relative, right,
right, everything's relative andeverything's perspective.
So we come here for a lot ofreasons.
When you think about it, we'reon the other side for quite a
long time eternity is a long,long time and when you're on the
other side, you don't have abody, so you can't smell, you
can't taste, you can't have sex.
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There's lots of things youcan't do without a body, and we
learn our lessons faster hereThan we do on the other side,
and we learn them faster stillwithin a relationship.
So we come here for a minivacation, we come here to learn
our lessons that we're supposedto be learning our soul lessons,
and we come here to collect ourkarma or pay karma.
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Now, karma is created when youdo something to someone else in
this lifetime and you do nothave remorse and you do not make
amends.
Okay, so even if you can't makeamends, at least if you have
remorse, you may not be creatingkarma.
You might be, you might not be,but karma is not really a bad
thing.
Okay, karma is there to helpteach.
(26:52):
So let's just say that youstole money from someone in a
past lifetime.
You've now, you didn't pay themback and you said too bad.
Well, now you've created karmawith that person in a past
lifetime.
You owe them in this lifetime.
When they come back in thislifetime doesn't mean they're
going to steal from you.
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They might become your boss andteach you how money works and
that you have to earn money inthe value of money.
So they're always trying toteach you and help you with your
lessons.
So there's three types ofrelationships.
There is the karmicrelationship, and you know it's
a karmic relationship because itnever really feels right.
There's always something thatyou can't put your finger on.
(27:35):
You're looking for red flagsand it doesn't matter if it's a
sexual relationship, afriendship or family member.
Okay.
And as soon as one or the otherof you have learned the lesson
you're supposed to be learning,a Karmic relationship ends
immediately.
It's like you wake up onemorning and say why do I have
this person in my life?
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I want nothing to do with themand you're done.
If you both learn the lesson,then it will end amicably.
If only one or the Other haslearned the lesson, it will end,
but it will not be amicable,okay.
Then you have the soulmaterelationship.
Soulmate relationship is alsothere to teach you something, or
you can teach the other person.
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However, it's also there toafford you some love and comfort
along the way, and a soulmaterelationship Does not have to
end once one or the other haslearned the lesson.
That really depends on what youwrote into your life plan,
because you plan this lifebefore you got here, believe it
or not, and Nothing reallyhappens to you, but it happens
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for you.
So if you can't stay on trackfor your plan, the universe
steps in to give you a littlepush.
It's what they do and you maynot like the push you get.
Say you're supposed to move andyou keep putting it off and
Heming and Haran, I don't wantto move, but I don't.
Well, they might burn yourhouse down.
So you've got no choice but tomove right, put you back on the
path that you planned before youcame here.
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Then there's a twin flamerelationship, which is extremely
rare.
If there's way too muchmisinformation all around the
internet because of all themovies that came out, a Twin
flame is literally one soul thatsplit in two and then
reincarnated into two bodies,and they will always come back
into two separate bodies afterthat point and they will meet at
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some predetermined time in thislifetime and when it happens
it's always extremely sexual,extremely passionate, extremely
psychic, and it just blows yourworld up and puts you on the
path that you're supposed to beon in life.
And Then you separate and theyonly last for a few weeks to a
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few months.
And if you're both able tolearn the five lessons that
you're supposed to be learningand getting on the path that
you're supposed to be on andTwin flames have a higher path
than most people they hear tohelp humanity Then you'll have
an opportunity to reunite inthis lifetime.
Otherwise you won't and you'llhave to wait till you get to the
other side again.
But they're veryheart-wrenching relationships
because Nothing will evercompare to that.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
So for the rest of your life You're gonna be
settling if you decide to bewith someone else so you think
that then when you're talkingabout learning lessons, that we
just Kind of re-rotate, recycleand tell if you've learned?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
your lessons?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
you don't do that anymore.
How does, how does so you also.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Let me explain the five lessons, because some
people need all of them, somepeople needed some of them, but
the lessons are alwaysreinforcing each other.
Okay, so the first lesson isself-worth, and Self-worth is
not Value.
Value is what other peopleplace on you.
Self-worth is the understandingthat you are so special that
(30:44):
the universe felt that we neededyou here.
There is only one of you.
That's it.
Even if you're a twin, you'redifferent.
Now I heard today that they havedifferent fingerprints.
I'm gonna have to research that.
I didn't know that.
But you definitely havedifferent thoughts, different
ideas, and I guarantee yourparents can tell you apart.
But there's only one of youhere.
That's it.
(31:05):
And it's understanding that itis not selfish and it's not
narcissistic to put yourselffirst.
Society wants you to think thatit's where everything else
comes from.
If you can't take care of you,how are you ever gonna take care
of anybody else?
You won't be here to take careof anybody else, right?
And no one else has power overyou to make you do anything.
(31:26):
I can't make you love me.
I can't make you hate me.
No one has that power but you.
So no one can make you happybut you either.
I'm always hearing oh, whenthis happens, I'll be happy.
When I meet that person, I'llbe happy.
No, you have to be happy first,and then your happiness will
ping pong off of other peopleand you will track Someone else
(31:48):
that's happy as well.
And you also have to practiceself-love.
That all comes with Self-worth.
You have to love yourself forwho you are and if you don't
like who you are, change who youare.
There's something that youabout you that you don't like.
Change it.
If you've got a bad habit thatyou don't like, change it.
You have to like you, whoeveryou are, for who you are and no
(32:10):
matter what you look like,because, again, that's not who
you are.
You're the soul inside.
That's who you truly are.
The second lesson we all come tolearn is trust and
communication, and you have totrust that there's a higher
power, because there is, there'sonly one, no matter what you
want to call it, and you have totrust that there's a plan and
that you made the plan.
(32:31):
So, whatever has happening inyour life, again, it's not
happening to you, it's happeningfor you and you may not
understand it at the time, but2020 vision is wonderful, isn't
it?
We can always look back and seethe bread comes of our life and
how everything brought us tothe next thing and the next
thing and the Next thing, andhow you were going through that
terrible all-deer, all and afterit's like, oh my god, if that
(32:52):
hadn't happened, I would neverhave been here.
Right, that's how it works.
So you have to trust the planand you have to be able to
communicate your wants and yourneeds to the people around you,
whether it's a partner, anemployee, a child.
People don't know what you want, what you need, unless you tell
them.
We just don't know by osmosis.
Okay, and you also have to beable to trust the person enough
(33:17):
that you're with to communicatewith them, because sex is
nothing more than another formof communication in the bedroom.
If you don't trust them andcommunicate with them outside
the bedroom, you're not going tobe able to do it inside the
bedroom.
Then you have unconditionallove.
Now people will argue with methat, oh no, there's always a
condition.
Well then, you have to learnhow to remove that condition.
(33:40):
That's your challenge in life,because, let's say, you're in an
abusive relationship and you'replaying the martyr and you're
staying in it because I'msupposed to love them
unconditionally, I can't leave.
Well, that's a self-worthlesson that's kicking in right.
Unconditional love would besaying to the person and meaning
(34:04):
it.
Listen, it was a good run, okay, I really want the best for you
.
I love you and care about you,but I love me and care about me
too.
We need to go our separate ways.
It's not working.
It's not bad mouthing them onceyou're down the street either.
It's really one of them to havethe best in their life and you
can have the best in your life.
(34:24):
Let's say you had a child thatyou love unconditionally and
they do something horrific, saythey murder a neighbor and a
fitter age and they go to prisonfor the rest of their life.
You don't like what your childdid, but I sure hope you're
still going to unconditionallylove that child.
Okay, then you have money inbalance.
So what people don't realize isthat money is energy.
(34:46):
This is why it's calledcurrency, and everything in the
universe has to stay in balance.
We have evil and good, we havenight and day, left and right,
and money is the tool that weuse in this 3D world to show
whether or not your life is inbalance.
Everything has to be an evenexchange of energy.
(35:06):
You don't walk into a grocerystore and plop down a million
dollars to buy a gallon of milkNot yet.
It has to be an even exchange.
Okay, when I first started myrelationship mastery program, I
gave it to some veterans at nocharge.
Do you know?
They didn't do it because ithad no value, it was free.
It has to be an equal exchangeof energy.
(35:27):
Let's say you're working 80hours a week and you're trying
to save you money and get ahead.
Well, now your life's completelyout of balance.
You don't have time for yourfamily, your friends, your own
hobbies, and then, if you're notspending that money, you don't
have enough self-worth to evenspend the fruits of your labor
on yourself.
Then self-worth kicks back inright.
(35:48):
It keeps circling back aroundand people have to understand,
because money is energy.
It has to flow, just likeenergy does.
The more you put out, the morecomes back.
The more you put out, the morecomes back.
You can't just sit there andhoard it.
That's not what it's there for.
And the last lesson that wehave is patience.
Patience is very difficult forpeople nowadays because we live
(36:11):
in this world of instantgratification.
Right, everything comes to youat the perfect time, the time
that you planned it.
How ridiculous would it be ifevery little five-year-old girl
that wants to get married andhave babies, right, they got the
little baby dolls, the stalksthat's delivering them or the
UPS guys that's delivering themat the door right they come,
(36:33):
everything happens and comes atthe perfect time.
And you know your biologicalclock is ticking.
Oh, I haven't gotten marriedyet.
Maybe you clearly you didn'twrite it into your plan yet.
If that's the case and itdoesn't mean it's never going to
happen Maybe when you're 50,you're going to marry a widower
and raise his young children forhim.
It really depends what youwrote in your plan, and this
(36:56):
goes back to the trust.
You've got to trust that youwrote the plan for your highest
and best and it will always workout that way, as long as you
trust it.
There are things that I do thatI have no idea why I'm doing
them.
I'm just hearing that I'msupposed to do them and I have
to trust that I'm supposed to dothem and I do them, and it may
be a year or two later when I oh, my God, this is why I'm doing
(37:18):
this.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I truly believe that's the way your life is
supposed to be.
I really I agree too.
Everything that has happened.
Do you think it's such adisaster at the time?
And then you realize why ithappened, that it happened to
you or for you, not to you Like.
It's just such an incrediblelesson, life lesson for anybody
to learn.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I mean it is, there's nothing worse than being in it,
because it's like saying youcan't see the forest for the
trees Right.
So you have to find somethingto remove yourself from the
situation and stop being in itso that you can see the why
behind it and the higherperspective.
(38:02):
And when you can really startseeing your life from a higher
perspective, you don't take allthis stuff so seriously anymore
Because you realize it'shappening for a reason.
It's part of my experience,it's part of my learning, or my
teaching.
It's going to pass.
The rainbow will be back.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I mean I just know, for me personally, I mean that's
where you find peace is whenyou realize that there is a
purpose for everything and thatyou're here for a reason,
whatever that might be.
But to trust the process andeven like through tough times I
mean, again, we've talked aboutall of this stuff but you know,
(38:42):
through tough times andheartache and sadness and stress
and fear, if you can just havefaith and, like you said,
whatever that is it, you know,whatever faith it is, but when
you can try your best to putfaith before fear, it does bring
a sense of peace that you justagain, you have to trust the
(39:06):
process, but there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
There's always a reason and it's interesting.
So people pray, right?
People pray.
When you pray, you're askingthe universe.
When you meditate, when you getin touch with your soul through
meditation, you get youranswers.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Well, I am super excited for my reading on Friday
with you, june and again, Iknow this is much more my kind
of thing, because I do I dobelieve in all of this and I do
absolutely believe that there'sa higher power and that there's
a purpose and there's a reasonwhy each of us are here.
(39:43):
So I think that you're justabsolutely fascinating and,
again, so incredibly excited andgrateful that you wanted to
come on.
You wanted to talk to us, youwanted to just be really raw and
you know.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Give us more information that I can give
people, the more I can helppeople understand and take away
that fear.
That's my goal.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I so appreciate you wanting to share your story
Because, like you said, it's noteasy sometimes to talk about
because there is so manyskeptics, and I love the fact
that you're completely okay withthat, and so I'm just grateful
that you wanted to come in andtalk about something that really
fascinates me.
So I feel very selfish.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I'm great.
It's a great way to hear aboutit.
Oh, my goodness, I feel veryselfish because, I am just like
sitting here, which I'm not thequiet one of the group at all,
but I have completely taken thisin for the duration of our, you
know us talking with each other, so it's just so nice to talk
(40:49):
to somebody completely different, like it's just something for I
know you've had, you've hadexperience of it, but the rest
of it well.
I don't think anybody else hasbut it's just it's just
fascinating.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Fascinating.
Thank you so much.
We really appreciate your time.
You're very welcome.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, I welcome those on my website that people can
go listen to and watch from mystudents.
There's a free webinar they cansign up for and learn a little
bit more about energy, if they'dlike, perfect.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So very cool.
No, thank you again.
Thank you, I will probably talkto you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
June have such a great evening.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Thank you, you as well.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I'm just so excited about like the movie Ghost was
true, because that was all themedium, that was all like what
she was based.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, guys, I think it's easy
for me because I believe in thisstuff, I know, and so you know
I felt really interested too.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I like some of it.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I'm struggling with.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
And that's.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think that that's the beauty of it, is that's
totally fine, like I mean Icould.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
And I think that that's that's.
The thing is just being okay ifsomeone thinks a different way.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
We just said that last week.
Yeah, I don't know about that,about having different opinions
and that's that's okay and Iwould love to believe, but, like
this is my question, I didn'task her because I ask enough
questions.
But why do you think, like yousaid, your uncle came to you?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Why was really oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Well, like, why do you think, like certainly, like
I mean, I've had a lot of lostin my life Like, why do you
think, and I've never had thatcome through, why do you think
that some people come through?
And because I've alwaysstruggled with that, because I'm
like, if anyone like my dad, ifhe could come to me, like I
know he'd come to me.
So why do you think that?
That is Because I've alwaysbeen very open to it.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
And again, it's not.
It's not like someone lovessomeone more or whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's not that at all.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But I do think that there's a sense of you kind of
have to believe a little bit forit to be open, because I mean,
otherwise you'd probably beterrified, like if you woke up
and someone was standing thereor you know.
So that's, that's how Irationalize it, just because I'm
(43:06):
super open to it, and again,but that's because that's part
of my belief system.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
But yeah, no, I don't think like the closest I would
feel to a spirit in my lifewould be my grandmother, but
I've never had a dream about her, ever, ever.
She's never in my dreams, never.
Although, did I tell you thestory about her picture falling
in my house?
No, my grandmother, my husband,was very, very close to my
(43:33):
grandmother.
They only knew each other for avery short time, right, and he
carries her memoriam card aroundeverywhere.
She goes everywhere with them.
She goes and does his iron line.
Oh God, she like he just adoredher and she loved him.
As I said, it was a very briefkind of relationship, and when
we had moved to Georgiainitially and Scott had been
offered a job back up inPennsylvania and we were sitting
(43:55):
in our sitting room and we weresitting opposite each other in
the, the arm chairs oppositeeach other and on the bookcase
or upside the TV, mygrandmother's picture is there
and she's on every bookcase inevery house we've ever lived in.
That's where she stays.
And we were just talking andScott was like I just don't know
what to do.
I just I wish somebody wouldjust tell me what to do.
(44:16):
And with that her picture fellover, like there was no reason
for her picture to fall over.
It just actually fell over andthe two of us were like, oh my
gosh, what's she saying?
Oh my God, yeah.
Then he was mad that she didn'tgive like a yes or no, but like
strange things like that alwayskind of happen and if you know,
but she's never come to me andlike never seen her in a dream.
(44:38):
I will be open to spares.
I'm open for I've like bring onthe ghost.
I'm happy for them.
Maybe they're just, isn't itJust spirit?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, that you're, but you're at peace with it.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I think maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I think that, like anytime I've had a situation
like that, I wasn't at peacewith what happened.
Yeah.
And I was very much struggling,and so that's, that's the only
thing I think, cause I meanobviously I don't, I don't have
like, I don't have any likenothing, I just believe in this
stuff?
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, but I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I was trying to pull my dad through.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'm like okay, dad, if this is real, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Say something, Let her stop in the middle of this
and go hang on a sec.
But maybe you should do itthough.
Maybe you should do it to see.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You're not.
You're not going to hell if youdo it.
You're not.
You can do it for 30 minutesand just see what happens.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
I don't see the harmonious no.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I just was taking it all in Like everything that was
very interesting.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Be open and get that and I think it's just the
scientist part of me is Be, butthat's a, so why don't you do a
reading then?
Speaker 5 (45:40):
That would be even more fascinating it would be.
You should both just see.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I mean seriously like it's.
You can come away from itsaying that's a crock of shit,
totally fine, or you can comeaway.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
We won't do that on air, obviously, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I would not recommend doing it on air.
Yeah Well, first of all because, if someone does connect with
you and you feel like your soulfeels like you are actually
hearing something that you'resupposed to hear.
It's incredibly emotional andI'm one, as we've talked about
forever.
I do not cry.
It makes me nauseous, Likeliterally physically.
I have a reaction to it, whichI know, Dr Pam, I know.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
There's something to that, I'm having my.
I know there's something to it.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I feel it, I know, I know I'm working on it, but it's
.
It can be very emotional andit's very raw, and and then the
beauty of it is that you feelwhat you're supposed to feel.
So it's, it's okay either way,like it's, you know, can you
tell?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
me how it goes and then I will.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I think you should Do you feel your dad around you
all the time.
Anyway, I think so.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
I mean I want that, but I'm not.
I don't know if it's what Iwant or what I'm really feeling.
Do you talk to him?
Uh-huh.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
So like, maybe, maybe , sad.
That's the reason you don'tneed to If she can close her
eyes and see him.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, I think, because they are with us.
Yeah, I mean a thousand percent, and sometimes that's, that's
perfection, because it's notjust a dream, it's that you, if
you feel them, they are there,they are there.
So cheers to that, cheers toghosts Cheers.
(47:21):
Here we are.
I know Twilight dolls.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
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Age-ish podcast as they journeythrough the ups and downs of
this not young but definitelynot old season of life.
To hear past episodes or makesuggestions for future episodes,
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