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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Middle-Age-ish podcast,
authentically andunapologetically, keeping it
real, discussing all thingsmiddle-age-ish, a time when
metabolism slows and confidencegrows.
Join fashion and fitnessentrepreneur Ashley Badosky,
former Celtic woman and founderof the Lisa Kelly Voice Academy,
lisa Kelly, licensedpsychologist and mental health

(00:24):
expert, dr Pam Wright, andhighly sought-after cosmetic
injector and board-certifiednurse practitioner, trisha
Kennedy-Roman.
Join your hosts on the journeyof Middle-Age-ish.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hello and welcome to season two of Middle-Age-ish
podcast.
I'm Trisha Kennedy-Roman andI'm joined here today with my
co-host, ash Sabadasky, lisaKelly and Dr Pam Wright, and we
are excited to be back forseason two I know,

Speaker 4 (00:57):
You wouldn't think it .

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I know.
So we were talking about beforewe started recording, because a
lot of our good talk was alwaysbefore we started recording Was
the first night when you guysthought you were just coming
before to talk about it and weended up recording episode one
of season one.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, that was kind of the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
She tried to ask.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
I say it every single time, Just turn on the mic and
let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
This is Trisha and I'm like hey, I could have
figured out a way to get out ofthere immediately.
I would have, but my brain wenton a freeze.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Ash was like I don't want to talk to the mic, and
then the next week, hello.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So ridiculous.
That was the beauty of it,though as well.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's like that role kind of everybody getting to
know each other kind of thingthere's always, always been a
recipe for success, I think, forpeople, because you kind of you
learn about each other alongwith your audience.
Yeah so organic Super cool yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
And now that like doing something like this with
friends that you've knownforever.
That's probably fantastic too,but definitely, you know, you
learn something new about eachother every time and we share it
with everybody, which is fun.
That's the point, exactly Right.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I'm excited for a new year.
It's going to be great and somany fun guests.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I just can't even imagine what I'm going to learn
now.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I know we find a lot in the story.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's what I'm like.
I am excited, terrified again.
So I'm having the same emotions, just thinking what am I going
to learn new this?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
go round.
I know, but we get to do it allin this gorgeous new space oh
my gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I wish everybody could see it.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's so stunning.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's fun I've seen it because we're on video today.
Yeah, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
But they're not going to be the full tour, but this
room is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yes, yeah, so Trisha's genius, I mean
seriously, it needs to be aninterior decorator.
You should have been so fancyand fabulous, for sure.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh to stick with needles.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay, well, rooms spaces, oh, it's like your hobby
is Exhaust spaces.
Yeah, oh, it's so pretty.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
The color so pretty.
Yeah, I know it's absolutelystunning.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Congrats, you did a great job.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Fabulous, fabulous space.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Thank you, yeah, you guys like oh my gosh, is there
something?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I know Dead space, dead space.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, yeah, puzzles are okay, I have this feeling so
nervous in puzzles, and I don'tknow why.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I do that too, but I think that's part of being
socially awkward too.
But like I hate there to be apuzzle, Then you say something
stupid.
You're like why did I say that?
You know?

Speaker 5 (03:42):
what that was, I don't know.
They train us of how to sitthere for forever in psychology
and I'll just sit there foreverand say nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
That's not very good for the podcast.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
When they're just like, I don't know what to say.
You're just like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
but if I'm wondering, about that they're with, but
it's on purpose and is itsupposed to like get a reaction
or get them to?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
like Just to get them to talk.
I think people have a misnomerabout the difference in coaching
and being a psychologist andtherapist Like we feel like you
have your own answers and youhave to get to the answers and
good psychologists don't justtell you always what to do.
Yeah, so you kind of find yourown, because then you're
dependent on a psychologist morethan just figuring it out

(04:26):
yourself.
So sometimes it's like but itused to be so uncomfortable
because I'm like, oh my gosh,we're going to have the Mexicans
stare down.
You know, we sit here for 10minutes and this kid's saying
like I don't want to be here andI'm going to talk to you, and
you're just like, oh okay, well,let's figure out something you
want to talk about, and then youjust sit there and it's silent,
you know, but it's eventually.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
People usually talk because they know, don't like
retrain like train people, inthat you know what I mean,
because they could just thinkyou're just as interested or
you've nothing to add to it.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
So I've been a supervisor for gosh 10 years and
all of my supervisors you'lllisten to their tapes and
they'll sit in like you know 10seconds and it's like they jump
in and I'm like, don't jump in,you know, but it's hard because
you're so trained, like if itfeels uncomfortable, you just
want to jump in and like feeljust space, but it's not always
what's best.
Yeah, and that scenario.
But you know, in the podcastthat would be very awkward.

(05:19):
Hey, let's just sit here for 10minutes.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I literally probably the walking version of Dr Pam's
worst nightmare.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
You know, instead of a guess, we could play the quiet
game.
No.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I need to try yeah but maybe I was the kid in
school that always got introuble because I would talk too
much.
No, I'm shucking out.
We got the desk moved up to theteacher's desk and then I got
it moved to the corner Like theymoved you to their desk and
then went oh no.
No, seriously, because it waslike oh, hello Hi.

(05:54):
So what made you get intoteaching, do you?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
like math.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yes, and then I got moved to the corner.
I mean, every freaking timeyour shirt is fabulous, or can
you do something with your low?
I'm weird.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I know I remember my chair.
Did you guys have the chairsand have the desk attached?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yes, I remember it because I'm not right handed,
I'm on the other side.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I remember my chair being grabbed and pulled out
into the hallway because Iwouldn't quit talking.
So yeah, I got in trouble.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
You did.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I can't imagine you getting in trouble for that.
Oh my gosh, if I get my, I wasmost talkative in my senior,
like my your book, no, oh wow,yeah, I cannot imagine that I
was really quiet.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
And that's why I just love school.
I loved it.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, social.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That was just me too.
I was that way Eight hours aday, I just, and then when I got
home, I probably just went tosleep because I was exhausted.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's a really tough day.
Oh my gosh, it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, I know, I think just gave me good gracious to
get out of there and move on.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Oh, now I hated school, did you really?
I was in an old girl's schoolfrom the time, like for high
school, so I was old girls and Ihated that because I was such a
.
I was such a boy girl.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I was almost a different boy.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah, Like I mean there was no choice in our lives
because, like boy for highschool was all boys, all girls,
they were never.
It was never mixed.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
So did y'all.
Y'all never got to combine likedo dances or things with a boy
group or what we don't do danceslike you do dances.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
We had discos, so like they were away.
So they're all Catholic schoolsin Ireland Anyway.
So we're never going to have adance in the Catholic schools.
So we would go to like those,you know local rugby clubs and
on a Friday and Saturday, likethey'd have discos.
Is that like a dance?
It was like a disco.
No, no, not like it.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
So like 54?
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Shut up, lots of bad things going on.
Oh wow, yeah, well, it was likeit was run by other teens.
Oh oh, we're all like wow, ohyeah, should have grown up in.
Oh, I should be Irish.
Yes, it was yes.
Yes, it was fun.
So are schools mixed now or isit still all girls?

(08:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of.
So there's a lot of schools,like a lot of public schools,
that are mixed, and then there'sa lot of non-denominational
schools in Ireland as well.
So, yeah, it's kind of the allgirls, but the majority are
still all girls.
All boys Interesting, yeah, itwas hard.
It was hard especially becauseyour primary school, so your
junior, your elementary school,so we go from.
We would go from pre-K up tosixth grade.

(08:22):
That's your primary school, andthen your high school is
seventh through 12.
So up until sixth grade you'rewith boys and then, once you go
into seventh grade, most of thetime, did you guys?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
when you start liking them, I'm junior high.
Did you guys have junior high?
Yes, okay, yeah.
So, seventh and eighth grade.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Like it was in middle school we just were seventh and
eighth.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Which makes more sense, because I think there's a
huge difference between sixthgrade and seventh grade, like in
development with boys, I thinkso, yeah, but now they're all
kind of swimming together.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, school here is yeah, it was called middle
school or junior high.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Junior high.
That's what it was.
Yeah, yeah, it was junior high.
Yeah, seventh and eighth.
I read about those, we went tothose.
We went to those.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, cherokee, that was my junior high.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We had the same school seventh through 12.
There was a little in themiddle of cornfield I love that,
yeah, so it was three townscombined.
It was seventh through 12thgrade.
Like we had barn warming.
I always thought everyone hadbarn warming, but apparently
that's not.
What was barn warming.
It was at our barn.
At our school we had a big baryou had a barn at your school.
Yeah, we were literally at thecornfield.

(09:29):
I'm not kidding, oh my, I mean,we want pictures.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, wow, rawls County,missouri.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Wow, I do love the fact that we grew up in Missouri
, both of us.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
It's very cool, we didn't have a barn, no.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
We had a convent though we didn't have a convent.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
We didn't have a convent yeah, we had a convent.
It was very cool.
Yeah, very, very cool Coollittle school.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know I think we've talked about it before,
but I don't know what to sayaround but the monastery,
monastery, monastery, monastery,monastery, monastery, monastery
, monastery.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Monastery Monks yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, or it's like it's near what's conventary?

Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's so cool.
St Conyers is very cool, so youcan go and visit.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And we are starting this year off.
Great, because I did not knowthat.
So there's, it's my.
I don't think you were here thenight we talked about.
Yeah, oh, I did not know thatthey were interesting, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
I think it could even go and do Weekends.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
We've kind of like the prayer sessions and it's a
coolest.
It's just a neat sound.
They do the chanting.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
It's amazing yeah it's really interesting.
We've loads of monasteries athome, but I don't know if
they're.
I'm sure they are open to thepublic, but I've never been.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I didn't think that they would be.
They go during their.
If you go on their website,even, you can see the open
prayer sessions.
We went up into a bow.
It was an evening.
It was really cool.
We'd just thought of balconyand listen to their prayer
session.
I'm sure there's private onestoo, but you might go.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
There's some amazing energy.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's cool, the one there.
They have a gift shop and youcan buy homemade stuff.
It's very nice.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's really cool.
They used to have anythingwhere you could go for weekends.
I don't know if they do, butit's like a no-phone.
No, I mean, there's alwayscertain things that you can take
with you and you stay for theentire weekend, but no phones,
no, nothing, probably just aserenity, Heavenly.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I do not.
I think I died without my phone, Like I actually even the four
minutes that I do borrow withoutmy phone, I'm like I think I
would just absolutely love totell everybody Check out, I am
unflat, I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think I'd go with Zerall, but I think in the end
I'd feel better.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
As long as I knew there would be a way that my
kids could get a hold of us ifthere was an emergency, that
would be the only thing.
No, I would love to go withoutmy phone.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Oh my gosh, that would just make me so happy.
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I want to go back to the bag phone 1987.
Amazing, that's what we need todo.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I just not all the time, but for like a week at a
time, like if you're going tocruise and then you don't get
the you know internet thing andyou just put your phone in the
safe and then you just like noone carries me for a week.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean it really is, because I knew when Michael and
I went to.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Jamaica we thought we had the international plan.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well that didn't work , but it actually turned out to
be.
I mean, for like the first hourhe panicked.
It was just amazing.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I don't think I think I'd have for like major anxiety
with this.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think it's one or the other you know, I think that
there's, yeah, I mean, andthat's OK too.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know it's funny.
We were at a restaurant theother day and they had a phone
with a cord like a landline andthis little kid walked in and
like, look, mommy, that's whatthey had the olden days.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I was like we're from the olden days.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Did you have any of you?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
have a phone in your house, no.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, we have a cordless landline.
I mean, it's a boy.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, no, I think we got rid of ours last year, so I
mean I got for as long as ittook.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Now I haven't had a landline.
Gosh, I think it.
Oh my God, I don't think I'vehad a landline since 2060.
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
That's probably about right, though it's weird that
people still ask you on forumshome number, some number and
you're like they're the same.
Why are you asking me that?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's so crazy.
I just I don't know, but notsurprising that I don't like
technology.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So I mean, but like some of the things you can do
like I can track Scott's flight,I know when he's on the plane,
when it's landed, if he's doingit, like those kind of things I
think are pretty amazing whenyou think about the time you
used to go out to airports andjust wait for people to arrive
and you wouldn't know if theymade their flight or if they
were on their flight or if theywere standing randomly.

(13:36):
I remember waiting at anairport for about four hours for
someone and not knowing thatthey were delayed.
Ok, and I'm like Stan, didn't I?
That wasn't that long.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
OK, that's true, and I will say track your bag, oh
don't.
Or they send you a picture.
Do we have your bag?
Oh my gosh.
I will tell you that that isthe one thing that I love about
technology, and all of itsgreatness is that I can track my
bags.
Yeah, I think that's prettycool too.
That's nice.
I don't know what I would do ifwe were pushed back and my bags

(14:09):
weren't.
Well, that can be a littlecomplicated.
Where is it?
I mean, that could get a littlecomplicated.
Luckily, I haven't had thatproblem, but it does make me.
I will say, when we are on theflight, sitting there maybe
having a glass of Chardonnay, Iam watching my phone, I got my
bags and as soon as that lastbag comes on because we all know

(14:31):
that I travel with a ridiculousamount of luggage when that
last bag clears, I'm like now wecan bring out the champagne.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
This is amazing.
Let's just make this slide hard.
He's going to make sure youdon't have a connection anywhere
.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, atlanta, it's hard to get a connection.
No, granted, we don't flyoverseas that often and we at
places that is a drive, yeah,yeah, I get it.
Oh my gosh, I get us.
So, yeah, so we luckily knockon wood, we haven't had a flight
with a connection.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
For the amount of that I've traveled, I actually
have only lost my bags maybethree times.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I've only said too much, that is true.
That's actually really good.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Three times.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
get them back, or did they like lost?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I got them back.
Yeah, no, I got them back,which is always fast, Was it
like three days late yeah.
Ok, which is like that was anightmare, because the last time
I was in Dublin I was onlythere for five days.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I think you're like oh.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah, I was yeah, so that was annoying, but yeah, no,
but I've only lost them aboutthree times, which is pretty
good.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's amazing.
That gives me hope.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Because I really definitely is better.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It is Like you just.
Yeah, you just have that senseof security.
Yeah, I feel the same about mykids.
Once I was going to say I needthat with my kids is better.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I love technology.
Yeah, life 360.
I like what Life 360.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Although I will say that we did release Stephen, my
oldest, from life 360, unlesshe's traveling like crazy places
, and then I like for him toplug back in.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, he takes his love sometimes oh turn around.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Try, does that?
He's like no, you're a stalker.
Well, I was like well, do I notstill pay your bills?
Exactly, that's true.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Good point, so I don't pay Key and Spilda.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
OK, well, this is just for a try Because, like I
said, stephen, we have releasedmy hold, I mean he is 26.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Oh wait.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's time.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
He's like a playfully .
He's a big boy now.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So the baby.
On the other hand and he'sprobably the one that I need to
track the most Right he wouldeven probably admit that.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, it's just the peace of mind.
I mean.
I'd love to sneakily put it onmy parents' phone.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
So the word they are OK, so there's the funny story.
So back in, trey was still in Idon't even know if it was he in
middle school, maybe freshmanin high school and they had gone
.
Tell me if I've repeated thisstory before Speaking of like
what is it where we are?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
What's the old word Deltery?
Yeah, I was just saying thatout.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
So, they had gone to Myrtle.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Beach for a football camp, and my youngest does have
a tendency to sometimes not makegreat choices.
He's been arrested, yeah.
Thank goodness, and he's gotsome amazing guardian angels.
That after well, I had someamazing guardian angels, he does
too.
So when we passed, they'regoing to be like we tap out,

(17:17):
like we're tired, but like we'redone, yeah.
So, whatever reason, michael,my husband was down there.
I wake up in the middle of thenight which hardly never happens
and I look at my phone.
I'm like I'm just going to, I'mgoing to see.
So it showed Tray in the middleof the ocean.
I lost my mind.
Lost my mind, I mean couldn'tget ahold of Michael.

(17:38):
At first.
It was probably like 2.30 inthe morning and I was like he's
been kidnapped.
That's what's happening.
He's been kidnapped.
He's been dumped in the ocean.
I knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And to get to Michael , I mean calling the desk of the
condo like literally repeat ofMichael finally got him.
I was hysterical, I was likehe's been kidnapped, he's been
dumped in the ocean.
That's all.
I found out that sometimes life360 is not always accurate,
correct.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's sorry.
Before you go on, can youplease tell people how tall Tray
is?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Who I would have kidnapped him.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, no, okay, I mean he was 6'7", okay, but back
in high school, you guys?
No, he was little.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Okay, what's little to you, though.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe like 6'1".
That's okay.
I'm 6 feet, my husband's 6'5",my oldest, well, 6'4", 6'5".
Okay, leave it at that.
My oldest is the exact same, so6'4", 6'5".
But Tray, he was supposed to belike 6'8" when he was little.
That's what we had been told.

(18:46):
So then obviously he didn't gethis gross spurt.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
We had to tell him about gross spurt here because I
was wondering, like when I wasstill.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I never hit my gross spurt Right.
So it's all relative, I totallyunderstand that.
But yeah, so like 6'1" scrawny,I mean I had a thousand percent
.
I was like he's been kidnapped.
He did something stupid, likepissed off some kind of person
and they just kidnapped him anddumped him in the ocean.
So, michael I finally got toMichael.
He had to go find Tray and hisbedroom banging on the door.

(19:17):
He was like, oh my God, maybehe's not there.
Well, it was 2'3" in themorning.
Both boys were asleep, tray's,like what is happening?
Yeah, so that is when I didreally realize that there's just
an area.
Yeah, it gives you a proximity.
And because they were stayingon the ocean, he was in the
ocean, he was in the ocean.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I had to, like you know, bring him in, bring him
with an ocean view Right.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
But he was in the ocean, he'd been dumped.
That's so funny.
Oh my God, guys, can you evenimagine?
The insanity that I was in thatmoment.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
I'm so proud you didn't get in the car and just
start driving.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Oh, I was about to call the FBI.
Like I mean, we were just goingto, we were going to have to
escalate this, Michael, you'reso ridiculous, so funny.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, it can be hard to navigate.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's a bum I know that's why Tray's terrified Like
he tries to always come off ofit because he's like she's going
to absolutely freak out.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
But no one time that you might need to know where
they are.
That's like that's.
Oh, if they break down so.
I know they can always turn iton.
But you're like, yeah, I meanTray and I had that conversation
this past weekend.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I was like listen, I just need to know, like when
you're going different places,because he just picks up and
goes places.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I'm just like, I just need that one little connection
, not trying to stalk you.
Ish Shallowed history, it's 23.
But he's still in the family,still in college, everybody.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
That's my disclaimer, I'm so angry, I'm so angry, I'm
angry.
So I was still here, bill.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I get to know where you are.
Yeah, I do think that that'sfair, I think that's right, I
agree.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, so he's still in college and yeah, yeah,
that's fair Right.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
So there's that.
There is that, and then onlineshopping, which like.
Well, what would we do withoutour phones?
For a lot of shopping.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
That's true, okay, I'm.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
that is a pretty good thing you have to have that,
yeah, but I actually probablydon't need it.
Oh yeah, yeah, I would.
I'd just take it to my mom's.
But it's just an instant, likethe instantaneous gratification
of going.
I'm not about that now, Likeit's unreal.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I agree with that.
You have to sleepy shop like asI'm falling asleep on play.
I always go to Amazon and thenat one time I woke up in the
morning and said I had ordered awhole desk set.
I was fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I remember looking at it and I guess, as I was
falling asleep, oh my gosh so Iwas able to cancel it.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
But yeah, sometimes I get seven.
Oh my God, because I kind ofwas scrolling as I was falling
asleep and oh, I'm drunk eBay, Iwould say Drunk eBay.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
I'm not into eBay anymore.
I don't, no.
I'm looking for something thatis discontinued.
That's the only time I've kindof held.
Yeah, if I have a candle in myline or I find a T-tier match
and then I can't find itanywhere else.
I'll always check eBay and thenI'll go to Etsy maybe, but
that's the only time is if I canfind something.
I'm hoping somebody else istrying to get rid of us.

(21:57):
Yeah, but I had a friend whoended up buying a diamond ring
on eBay when she was drunk.
Oh hi, she was like they're notgoing to beat me.
They're not going to beat me,I'm going to be a high, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's dangerous, that is dangerous, it's not even just
with drink, for whatever reasonat night.
I don't know what goes on withmy brain, but I like that's one
of the things that I'm reallytrying, although I failed last
night.
I ended up buying.
Okay, do you guys know GoodAmerican?
It's like, okay, I'm not a hugeKardashian fan, okay, just FYI,
but it's one of the sisters.
But it had this beautiful blackblazer and like these, like

(22:32):
skinny jeans, and I was like Iwoke up this morning and like,
oh my God, I actually hit buy,so I have this entire outfit
coming, and like I did not buy,I need to get off all types of
retail situation at night.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Retail therapy at night.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Speaking of retail, let's do our fab finds.
Oh yeah, I had to think aboutit, because the last thing I got
was what Lisa told us aboutlast week.
That was like what is that?

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Immaculate yes.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
We were laughing at you because you were like I have
nothing good and I was like youhave to have good things.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I was like you have the best.
Yes, Come on.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
To be fair, your beauty finds probably went into
your interior design becausethere's some very beautiful,
very true, 100%, not wrong.
Yeah.
And I think sometimes, whenyou're just trying, I mean you
deal with beauty all day.
That's what I do every day.
So I feel, yeah, I'd be thesame with music.
It's hard for me sometimes tokind of find music or like,
because I'm like so when youlike, you're just like I'm done.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, I'm done.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Okay.
Well, I'll have five lines, ifyou guys Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Oh me, yes, oh, okay.
So I, we didn't set it a limit,I know.
So I have a limit, I'll do itsuper fast.
Okay, so I am one that loves agood dupe for something like one
of the big you know, like myseer thing.
So I absolutely love Tarte.
I said I love them for years.

(23:57):
I have found the best dupe forme to Tarte you can get.
It's called Colourpop.
They have like all thesedifferent colors.
The eyeshadow, like theconsistency is so much like
Tarte and it's like a fraud.
You get this at the likeWalgreens Target.
Deja vu yeah, that's a coolname, Deja vu, yeah.
So I know this one's going tohave like darker, but then look

(24:21):
all of you.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, you can all see , yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Oh, I love all the natural Guys.
It's amazing and it's just likefor a fraction of the price and
literally the eyeshadowconsistency is the same my
favorite thing, I know.
I get so excited.
Everyone knows I love a goodspray tan.
Yes, okay.
But have you ever like, had aspray tan and like you like, but
you've got sleeveless or you'rewearing like shorts, whatever,

(24:45):
and you just want your skin tobe completely flawless?
Yes, okay, guys, this WestmoreFantastic.
You just put it on your skinlike that.
Okay, the brush is like crazy,I can't have it up.
I know we're all like we don'tlike this.
Oh, here you go, just take care.
Yeah, okay, I'll give you alittle tip.

(25:09):
Guys, it literally takes all theflaws out of your skin.
Okay, so this brush needs to beclean.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So just take it and you do this.
Now, obviously this is when Iusually have, like my spray tan
on and it's lovely, though.
Oh, I mean, and they come indifferent shades, guys.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It is like the ball, which is a picture, problem no.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
So it's the Westmore Beauty, yeah, westmore Beauty,
and it is lasting effects.
I am telling you guys, likewhen I was at the wedding, this
pot, oh well, New Year's Eveweekend, so like I had my spray
tan, but you can, just you knowyour skin like I don't know,
like it just gets in perfections.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I took this.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I did it and you just puff it all around, cute and
like you have, like there'snothing.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
That is amazing.
There's no dimples.
There's no nothing, george, ofonline golden radiance?
Yeah, where do you order itfrom?

Speaker 5 (26:06):
I did it from their website, I from their website.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Fantastic.
Wow, love it.
Yeah, some of my faves.
He's like three.
I don't have that three.
You brought three Girl, I haveyou more.
Okay, who loves Laura Mercierand Andrea?
I love that one.
And solution powder yes, thatis so good, I love it.
It is like it is my staple forsure, always, forever.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Wow, yeah, so those are like some Laura Mercier.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
She's amazing, she really is good, yeah, and I used
to do it with, like the BeautyBlender, but I actually love
these like little trianglethings that you get from like
Walgreens or Walmart.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm just kidding, she's a brush.
Yeah, that's cool.
Obviously she's a brush, but Ihave that on.
Oh, no, I have a brush too.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
So, anyway, those are some of like things that I just
watched.
I like them, but you guys, I'mtelling you this one right here,
that's for the win.
I mean you'll get like adifferent color because I mean,
again I did this one because I'musually with a spray tan on,
but Awesome, I like that.
Everyone will think your skinis just flawless, I know.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
So, anyway, those are my full Wow.
So what's in your cat bag, inmy cat bag?
I know, I love that, I lovethat.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
I want that, thank you, you know this from Friends.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
And I want that in my bag.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
So my son, jack, bought me this.
Okay, so I brought, like, myessentials.
I actually didn't go down themakeup route.
Well, I did for one.
I actually have a full of thethings that like.
So this is what we were talkingabout last week.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's why I made you all buy last week.
I'm excited.
This is the L-Mac-E-Ash.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And it's like a skin tightener for under your eyes.
Now I did find, after I've beenwearing it a bit, as I was
saying to you, I know you said,oh, this was not air last week,
and it can sit a little bit intothe creases of your eyes and
make them a little bit morepronounced.
So you just need a teeny, tiny,tiny, tiny.
Okay, so that's it.
I love that and this is my mostprized possession.
This is my tweezer mask.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yes, oh, my God, yes, I love it.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I love it, so it like I will always have a tweezer
mask Right.
So what's it called Tweezer?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
mask, tweezer mask.
Tweezer mask is the best.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yes, and the lifetime guarantee and you can send them
back.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And they're perfect.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
And they have all different kind of blades and
stuff.
I always lose them.
Okay, I love that.
Okay, so for your red cheeks,because I have really red cheeks
, as everyone's going to see.
So this is CC Bear Red, correctby I don't I buy.
It's a Korean skin therapy andsomeone else recommended it
online and it is literally thebest thing.

(28:27):
So you just put it with your,like your daytime, like your
well, I put it on at night, goto bed Because, like, as soon as
I take my makeup off, my cheeksare like, so I use this and it,
literally it doesn't make yougreen.
You know the way you put it on.
Yeah, yeah, this is a lovelycream.
You can all try this, actually,because that's really nice.
I bought it online.
Okay, it's Erborian, erboriancream, skin therapy, nice, I

(28:48):
literally like my favorite thing.
And then for eyelashes, this ismy lash boost from Rodin and
Fields.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
You've told yeah, because I've asked you about
your lashes before.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Literally Okay, the best thing Can make your eyes a
little sore, but you know, nopain, no pain.
This is the brand new SevenFrom Boots in the UK, so this is
the moisturizing foundationthat I wear all the time.
I heard really good thingsabout Number 7.
Number 7 is excellent.
They have a protect serum aswell that they use, but I don't

(29:18):
use serums that much because butI love this Hydro luminous and
then Laniage lips, oh yes, it'sgood stuff.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
I have that.
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's so good I didn't need so much Lips, have got
neutral.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Oh, it's so good, it's good, it's good, that's the
best.
And then I got this on Etsy,because everyone was talking
about castor oil for your face.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Oh yeah, I've heard about that, for like your
eyebrows and stuff.
When you went the telly and foryour hair Over my face.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
I've heard of hair, everything.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Well, we all know that my hair is made of how to
induce labor.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Do you know that?
Wait, what Castor oil to inducelabor?
I'm not recommending that.
Well, I do, never heard that.
And then my last skin thing isthis Good Molecules Overnight
Exfoliant.
This is literally the beststuff I have ever used and it's
like $7.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Really.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's what I love, I love it.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
So you put it on at night.
You've got a lot of sites Now.
I use it three times a week andI literally wake up in the
morning and my skin is likesuper clear, wow yeah.
And then I feel like I can't bewithout this.
It's my L'Oreal Root Spray,because it's so white, so this
makes this good to feel likedark green.
All right.
So this is the bag that you willmake sure always makes it onto

(30:33):
the point yeah, now if I havemore time, I would have put my
cleanser in there, which is alsoGood Molecules Cleansing Bound,
but I literally feel I couldlive my life and I could
probably pass on this.
But it's fine, you know, Idon't know.
I'm starting to find that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I just say that every day, yeah, so like that is the
Holy Grail, that's the hot bathHoly Grail, yeah as.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
I said I didn't put in cleanser to take off my
Hydro-Luminous, but I would useGood Molecules Cleansing Bound
as well.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Do you want Double Cleans?
What do you mean?
Double Cleans, like I'll do,like there's a bomb way up here.
I really love it.
Like the oil, yeah, oil first.
Oh yeah, give my makeup up, andthen I do have like a foaming
wash.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Are we supposed to do that?
Because I do, I've got that.
And then it's like I do loveskin pseudocles.
I mean that's just.
But I mean I've got the oil,but then I've heard that you're
supposed to do the oil and thecleanser and I just never got
that.
Do you just want to get yourskin?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
you know, cleansed really well.
So do you think that the oildoes?
Does it?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
do a good job, like taking off your makeup or it
depends.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But I mean, obviously there's different qualities but
I love.
There's a zeo that I love, it'sa bomb that I do first.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I don't wet.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Like I don't wipe my face at all.
Right, right, right, I'll putthe bomb on and I just feel like
it breaks up my makeup and then, oh lovely, and it's.
Your skin feels really soft,like when I get home.
I'll do that and get rid of themakeup.
If I wear makeup and then I doa foaming face wash because it's
not enough, and then it makesmy skin feel so good, I'll like
do it again before I go to bed.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Okay, well, that's a good job, because I have heard
that it's very nice.
And then when I'm done, like,I'll do the foaming cleanser in
the morning and I do that likethe oil at night, so I need to
get a good foaming cleanser.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I find them really drying on my skin.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
So that we've got to really go in here and
oxygenating.
Oh, that's what I need.
Yeah, I'll cook you a good,good, good, good, good good.
Yes, I shall cook you a goodslice.
I'll do that, okay.
All right, I came up with myfinds.
I love it, became up with myfinds.
Yay, I just got this, so it'scalled Guts.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I told her when it was goofed oh, I love this, oh,
I love this, yeah, have you usedthis, not that one, but I love
this.
I love this.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, and you can do it.
I do it like just with my crownand kind of you know, it really
gives you a lot of volume.
Is it before you dry or after?
Before you dry it.
But if, like, you want to dolike a little fluff up, you can
do it and then just kind of blowdry it.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
I like a dry.
Your hair is dry, you can do itlike that oh nice.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I really like this Redkin, yes, redkin, rootlifter
Guts.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
There used to be a gorgeous one called Halo
Rootlifter as well, and that wasmagic.
I don't know if they still sellthat anymore, but that was the
last Rootlifter.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I'll try that one.
It was hard to get a.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Rootlifter yeah, I love this.
Love Redkin too.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
The next.
They usually use it wet, butthen you can use it dry for you
too.
Yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
That's sad.
It's your one.
I did beauty all day long.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
She said I did.
I did all day long.
So I'm trying two new things,but we'll see how they go.
One is the red light, becauseeverybody's talking about red
light, so I researched what theyneed for the envy or whatever.
There's different likepenetration levels for your face
, so I did the home right.
Yes, so I ordered the currentbody and I did.
There's one that's the face andthis sounds weird, but there's
one for your neck actually.

(33:24):
Oh yeah, I know I've seen thatbefore.
So your neck it comes down onyour chest a little bit, so it's
like for your neck and chest.
So it's like 10 minutes.
So you do that in the morningand then the zip halo, which is
like a microcurrent, but it'skind of like a have you ever
heard a new face?
A little machine that's got thelittle two.
It's kind of like that, butit's faster and you just do it
across the fist to give you morelike lift and define.

(33:45):
So I will tell you how it goes,but I like the zip halo so far.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So the red light is there heat on us?
No, nothing at all.
No, nothing at all.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Have you?
What's your?
We have?
We have, I mean, we've come inhere with some of our procedure
to esthetician us.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, there's some benefits to it, I mean my thing
is like it's 10 minutes, so 10minutes and then 10 minutes, so
you do it at the same time andthen this is only like four
minutes, I think, each side, soit's kind of like easy.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
It'd be like Joe Collins when you're 90,.
Did anyone see her the othernight?
No, oh, my goodness, she was onthe Emmys the other night.
Really, she is 90 years of age.
There is not a wrinkle on herface.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, did you see Dolly Parton?
Oh yeah, Dolly.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
No, I love Dolly.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I love Dolly too.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I love how she said if it's there, you'd nip it,
tuck it inside.
Yeah, I mean seriously.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
We're going to plastic surgery.
I agree, yeah, you're like, yes, she's always says it costs a
lot of money to look that cheap,you know who else is going to
know?

Speaker 5 (34:39):
I just love her.
I think she's amazing,priscilla Presley.
Priscilla Presley, did you seeher?
I didn't see her.
No, is she there?
Yeah?
She was on all the shows hadher on with her granddaughter?
Oh, because there were evenmore coming out as well.
Wow, I was like wow, thesepeople have done work, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
But they look great.
They look incredible.
Carol Browne Ash was on as well.
Well, I couldn't get over itwith Joe Collins and Carol
Browne at like.
They're both 90.
And they're like poker straightas they walk.
Whatever, their faces lookamazing.
Yeah, the posture, but theposture like they were darting
across the stage, oh, it wasincredible, incredible.
And heels I don't think CarolBurnett has heels on, but I'm

(35:18):
sure Joe Collins did, but shedidn't even have wrinkles down
her neck and you could see.
So how do you do it?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, is there like a neck lift or something that's?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
what I want to ask you.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
OK, so here's the.
I have a lower face, so howcome you see some people who are
like that and they look amazing?
And then you see some peopleand they look like a weird cat,
like attack their face orsomething you don't mean, like
they're puffy and they're likeweird looking.
I do you have people that lookgood?
Yeah, like that.
So what do you look for ifyou're someone who's middle ages
and wants to look for surgery?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I would look, I would do multiple consults and I look
for before afters from thatparticular surgeon.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Wow, I saw the other day.
I'd never heard of this before.
Scott got a new tattoo and theywere all talking about this in
the tattoo place.
Is it back al, back al?
Bugle fat pad?
Bugle fat pad removal.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Wait what?
Yeah, I'm not certain.
I mean some people need that,but I think people overdo it
because as you age, your face isgoing to get, but you're also
going to start looking gonethere Like I think that so.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
is that because of lines like here, you're
nasophabial folds?
No, what's that have to do withthen?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
So you know that look of having like the hollow the
long, but I'm not a huge fan ofthat one.
I think it's overdone.
I mean, there are some people Isee that they have just a
really pronounced bugle fat pad,yes, but I feel like it's done,
like overdone.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I was looking at a whole bunch of before and afters
and you could see some peoplewere like my gosh, it actually
worked.
But they were like I know it'slike jolly kind of beforehand,
but then other people justdidn't look better.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I was like, oh Well, because your deep fat pads, as
you age, your atrophy, they canbecome thinner and so if in your
, so your skin, is everythingstarting to come down, and then
you take away the fat there, Imean there's I don't know.
Like I said, there's some of it.
I think it's good.
I think that that became theone that drives me nuts in the
office is, everyone comes inwith Instagram or TikTok fads
and it doesn't fit everyone, andso I think that that became a

(37:13):
fad and so a lot of people havedone it and some people.
I mean that's where you get agood surgeon, like our plastic
surgeons in our group, andthey'll tell you, no, but
something they don't thinkthey'd mess for you, which is
amazing, which is, you know, Imean all the same thing with me
with injectables.
You know I'll send people awayIf I don't think that's the best
thing, just because they saw iton TikTok, or if they.
But I just say I mean I seepeople come in who have been
wayward done somewhere else.

(37:33):
That's all about to just Right.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Will you explain to people what you told us last
week about, because I thoughtthat was fascinating about what
filler actually is and whypeople use filler.
So I never talked about thatthis week.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, I did Because I went out to show my mom all the
fad, oh the fad, yeah, yeah,it's crazy, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Because I think people fear these words and it
dissolves.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
If it's the right, yes, because if you haven't done
that before, like I don't know,and we look at people and you
go, oh, filler, I'll have to putit on.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know what it is when I put up a picture of a
fat bed.
But when we age, three thingshappen.
You have bone reabsorption.
So, like as we hit menopause,we wear back in our hips such as
women, but it's all of ourbones.
So we think about the structureof our cheekbone and our jawline
.
So I always tell patients it'slike a tent pole holding up a
tent and you cut a couple inchesoff that, like, all of a sudden

(38:23):
, things start to droop.
So that's what happens with ourmain support structure and then
our skin.
We start losing about 1% ofcollege production early on
after our teens and so everyyear.
And so you lose that.
It's like a rubber band.
You've stretched so muchscience that it resulted in a
stretch back.
And then I was talking about thefat pads.
Our deep, we are superficialfat pads.
They'll drop, but our deeperones actually atrophy and become

(38:43):
thinner.
And so with all that you startgetting segmentation of your fat
pads.
So when you look in the mirroryou know, and you're hitting 40s
, 50s and beyond, you'll see theactual separations of the fat
pads that you didn't see before.
And so with filler you canstrategically place that, pick
the right filler, right patient,right placement, and you can
just improve that withoutlooking at the right type of pad
.
You should look at someone andsay, oh, you've got filler there

(39:05):
, you've got filler there, it'snot done right.
Then If you can look and tellwhere somebody's filler is best.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
That's why you're the best.
Thank you, yes.
So what do you still see?
Most of lips filler with lips.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I see a lot.
I mean, really, mid face is myfavorite place to do, because we
start seeing problems in youreyes.
You see that when we talk aboutlike jowling and all kind of
this is kind of where theproblem starts.
These are kind of symptoms.
So I love that, that's myfavorite.
That's my favorite.
And then I love doing lips too.
I do lips like very gradual,gradual.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Artistically.
You're looking so afraid oflips just because you see, like
Donald.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Duck.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, you don't see like the success stories,
because they're seamless andthey don't look like it, but at
least for me I've always beenterrible.
I mean, I think everyone needsto do what they need to do, like
you know, but lips and I mean Ihave like the littlest, like
little lips, and I would love to.
Well, two reasons why I alwayswas worried, because that's what

(40:01):
you see.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
You see that stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And then that they're uncomfortable when it's being
injected.
But I mean, I love that you doit right.
Well, it is too.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I'll tell patients bringing a picture of someone's
lips and it's not anything liketheir lips.
So I'd like to be 5'7".
That's not going to happen, youknow.
So you've got to work with yourown anatomy.
So I think that's.
The other thing too is you know, people will bring a picture
and someone will try to recreatethose lips, but those aren't
their lips.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Like, I want to take your anatomy and you know, work
with what you have Work withwhat you have, yeah.
But didn't you say last weekthat you've never had somebody
stop because it's painful?

Speaker 2 (40:34):
No, never, and I think that was news to us last
week.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, that's interesting so did we ask last
week, I can't remember how long?
Like so, when you do lips, likewhat's the start time to finish
time?
Like are we talking?
Because, like both of us, Imean you'll be like 30 seconds,
you're done in 30 seconds.
So like for lips.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And I mean I take that's what I take, like that's
the most tedious one I do.
Yeah, that probably takes themost time because it's, you know
, a lot of play on stick, stick,needle in and fill them up.
You know I do a lot ofstrategic little placements, so
it all depends on the lips.
Like, if it's someone who I'vealready done and I'm not really,
you know, working on structureof the lip, it's pretty quick
but probably like 10 to 30 thatis max, so not like a crazy

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amount of time to beuncomfortable.
No, I mean it's like said I'venever had anyone in almost 20
years say stop, I can't handleit.
But I also know I could tell ifsomebody is freaking out yeah,
if they're super anxious andI'll say you know, wait till the
excitement outweighs theanxiety, because if you're
nervous it's going to hurt more.
Of course Sure makes sense.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
So if somebody came to you with their face and said
to you I have this amount ofmoney, I can only do one thing
to make me look better, and Iknow everybody would be
different.
But like nine times out of 10,what are you going to aim for?
What's the one thing that canmake your face look completely
different?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I'd say, if you've got a budget for one thing I
mean again, everybody'sdifferent, but I think that when
you're looking at someone,you're looking at their eyes and
that can make just that littlechange and a brush to make you
happy and relaxed versus tiredand mad.
Yeah, yeah, that makes senseit's so quick too, and it's in
and out.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Can you look at people from before and after
like celebrities and see whatthey've had done?
Can you?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh, I can guess you guys always talk about
celebrities.
I don't really watch a lot ofthat.
So I mean, if I do look atsomeone, actually I say that if
they have someone good, Ishouldn't be able to do that, of
course, but if somebody's hadsomething bad, then I can a lot
of times tell or have a goodidea of what they've done.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Isn't it just so crazy?
Like, because you know I lovereality TV and like some of
these people, they do like, theyhave the, they have, you know,
unlimited resources and theyshould have just whatever.
And some of them are look it,looks the worst, like the worst,
and I don't understand how thathappens.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I think, well, maybe it's just over time.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Trisha, do you think like that's addictive?

Speaker 4 (43:00):
to us.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Oh, I mean, I cut people off and I think that
that's.
That's the problem.
I see, when I see people overdone they, it makes me angry,
because then people are scaredof it, because you see that
Right and and it's not.
I don't think it's like ethicaleither, you know, just because
I think that people can overdoit.
Oh my gosh, yeah Makes sense.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah.
But you must see like withpeople as well.
Oh, all the time, and they'reso obsessed with their
appearance but it's never goodenough and I always kind of fear
like if you start with onething on your face, then you're
going to see like problems ofother things.
Like where does it end?
You start looking more.
You start looking more.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I think once you've done one tribute and start
looking people say, oh, you know, I have a new mole here and I'm
like there's.
You know, your injectionsdidn't cause the mole here, it
was in your previous video, butyou're looking at.
You're looking at yourself moreso, but I think, like we all
know, I'm kind of like I'mgetting more and more obsessed
with Taylor Swift and TravisKelsey.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I think they're so adorable, but I look at them and
I especially heard like I'm sofunny about a picture being
taken and you get your picturetaken all the time too.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
That was stressing me out.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But to just walk out of my house to go to the grocery
store and have people take mypicture, that would be, that
would be so stressful, and so Iwould think, especially like
with celebrities, they might geteven more focused on their
looks because, gosh, it's onshow all the time, but then it
creates like we were talkingabout, like, but then they
overdo it and they've actuallycreated.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
what they were trying to avoid is to look bad in
pictures, or you know, orwhatever.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I think we're more trend.
I shouldn't say we are.
I think the younger generationis more trend followers.
So if something's on TikTok youknow, I mean you can make
something crazy really popularon TikTok, it's true.
I feel like there's a lot offads with looks that I see
coming in more and moreespecially the younger people
that, you know, maybe isn't themost pleasing of looks, but that

(44:50):
just becomes a fad.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, I think with them, though, as well.
I think, as much as I hate likethings like Snapchat and stuff
and TikTok and stuff they've got, they're a bit better at being
themselves than we would be.
So, like, while they, you know,they will look at the pictures
that they post and they'll, likemake sure they look gorgeous in
the pictures that they post,they've no problem like being

(45:12):
regular on TikTok with theirhair all over the place.
So, like I thought, as I wouldnever take, like I would never
take selfie of myself and sendit to people, like I was just
never going to do that, yeah,but like they don't care about
us.
You're right, they're like no,they actually don't care.
She doesn't care Because likehe's so weird.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
It's so weird, it's the absolute extreme of both
angles.
Yeah, they always have to havethat when they're in that moment
.
They have everything filtered,absolutely.
But, then they do have themoments when they're sitting
there on the couch.
Yeah, oh my God, and theyhaven't taken a shower in three
years.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
It's so true, like sorry, I was nearly losing my
tweezers.
Oh we can't do that, sorry.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
I'm sorry, gosh, I'd be hairy, but I think we got
your right, I'm just a littlelike your tweezers.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
Tweezers are when.
Let's call Scott my network.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
That's why I'm right it's gosh, because he's like
hairier than me.
That's fine.
Am I on hairier than me?

Speaker 5 (46:05):
But I was going to say, from what you said, I feel
like men well as much as womenbut men even more so are looking
for especially middle age, likeanti-aging treatments and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I have a huge amount of mail.
I'm going to talk about thatlast week.
Yeah, a huge amount of mail.
They tell that because they'relooking at themselves more on
Zoom calls and such.
So, they're noticing things,where we look in the mirror
because we're doing our hair andthey don't look in the mirror
that much and tell them.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Well, I think finally , with men as well, they're
starting to see like.
So you look at TV and you seethe likes of John Hamm and you
look at Steve Carell and you'regoing okay, well, why do they
look so good when they're 60?
And I'm not.
So I think it's finally thatcycle is starting to happen for
men too.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I think it's starting to happen and like,
yeah, we always talk about howmen in general age better than
women do, and you know, it'sjust been like.
I mean because, seriously, likeI think a lot of men get a lot
more handsome as they get older.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
They do, they definitely do.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
But they can get more handsome they can go either way
.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Yeah, so you can go either way.
That's true, it could.
Yes, I just think it'sfascinating.
I think there's so many.
It must be so frustrating foryou as, doing what you do and
have people, like you know, goto the wrong person and get the
wrong things done and then tohave such a negative connotation
associated with it at times,and, as you were saying like,

(47:30):
you look at people on the TV andyou're going, oh God, they're
so overdone.
That's what happens if you gettoo much Botox.
That's what I mean.
I spent years.
My dad looks at people on TVand go, oh, look at all the
Botox she has.
I'm like that's not Botox.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I know.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
I know.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Well, that's the other thing we talked about last
week too is people on datingsites.
Yeah, like even older datingsites and they'll go to meet the
person and they're in therestaurant and swear that person
isn't there, and then they seethem and they're like whoa, wait
a minute, I believe it.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
What happened?
It's like it's the biggest liethat you're going to get caught
in.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, I thought you meant thedating.
Well, even though older peopledating online, that's the big
thing.
Yeah, I'm posting a picture ofyou that's like 20, 30, 40 years
younger.
Yeah, I was like crazy.
I did take like crazy filters.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I agree with Lisa's strategy of making yourself look
really bad, so I can do like alittle bit of a quantum bonus,
and you're like, wow, I just hitthe lottery.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Exactly.
I'm curious to see if they haveto walk out.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yes, Will you marry me?
Well, you also know thatthey're not after you because
it's superficial.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And that's that's true.
You don't look like.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
No, I would definitely be doing this.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's why I love that show we talked about.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
What was?
The love is mine, yeah.
Love is mine yeah, it's none ofthem last.
I was going to say, did theylast?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
though no very few.
There's a few lasted, but yeah,it's just crazy.
It is crazy.
It's a crazy world, I know itis.
I do like, though, that peopleare being more honest, yes, and
more honest about the work thatthey've had done, so this other
people aren't striving For us.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yes, definitely less taboo.
Oh, and I think you have a lotof men now because their wives
bring them in, because they'retired of sneaking it, so they
should get them hooked on it too.
I have a lot of dates now whereit's husband and wife come in.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I think it's amazing.
No, I think it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Scott said he was going to come in too.
He'll kill me, never say much,though.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
We're going to do before and after.
I was live, don't be ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
I thought of another fun segment.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I lost my list, but it was a would you rather?
So there, I read two of themtoday.
I thought it was like aninteresting thought.
So the first one was would yourather be able to see 10 minutes
into the future, or 150 yearsin the future?
Oh, 150.
You're going to be dead,exactly yeah, but then no.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
To be honest.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I don't know if I would want to do either one I'd
want to like.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Or do you have to pick one by a lottery ticket and
do 10?

Speaker 3 (49:59):
minutes before maybe.
Yeah, there's that, yeah, otherway and like you have to pick
one.
I would say for me oh, I don'tthink I could.
I see this.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
I call it just to mean things like I can go back
then and redo or undo, but thenyou can, it's there, it changes
everything.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
So I don't defend that person that's like I don't
know if I would want to doeither one, If you could change
it on or change it.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
But see, I don't, I wouldn't want to change.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Because if you change one thing in your past, then it
affects everything else.
It could be one minor thing todomino effect.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
You pick another class in high school instead.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Of that class and then it changes yeah.
I guess I'm thinking about youknow family people.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, I've been great , great, great kids or something
.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I don't like surprises.
I probably want to know whenI'm going to die.
I hate surprises.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
You went yeah, yeah, yeah, I really, yeah.
I don't want to surprise Gosh,I would want to know that.
Well, it talks to an idiot.
I can never be able to tellthat this is true.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
When we do that, we're going to ask.
I don't want to hear that I wastold I was told I only had one
that told me Really.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Mid-70s, mid-70s, I was told by a lady who read my
palm that I was going to havedementia.
So I was going to.
Yeah, but I was going to have.
It would be a brain thing withme.
It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It's horrible, gosh, I don't want to do that anymore.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Yeah, I don't want to know that.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah, I don't want to know this thing I don't want to
.
I don't want to.
I'm not going to do that, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I lose my car keys five times a day, so I think I'm
going to already hit that inthe early morning.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Yeah, wow, she was actually really good because she
told me I was going to havefour kids.
Well, I was only 17 when she no, I was older, I was 22.
Oh, wow, no, I was only about20.
And she told me I was going tohave four kids.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
And had dementia.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
That's good what I did, I did, I did.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yeah, she read my palm.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Interesting Well, and I know that we'll talk about
that later on in the season, butI do think there's you know
there's some that arewackadoodles.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Of course I know these other people are, but
there are others that that'stheir gift, just like anyone
else has a gift Interesting.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
So when you get someone that's knows, and you
can be a dreamer, Okay anotherone.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Okay, so I think I'm saying these words right.
I still can't get monastery.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
That's it right.
Monastery, monastery, monastery, yeah, if you don't think about
the spelling of it Monastery,yeah, monastery.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So would you rather if you got one gift?
Would you rather be to betelekinetic, where you can move
things with your mind, ortelepathic, where you can know
what people are thinking?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Oh, telekinetic, I think I would move all the stuff
to the launcher.
Same Telekinetic, yeah, I thinkshe would want to be.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Oh, I don't want to be telepathic, no.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
No, that would not be good for you.
I would not want to know.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
I don't know, I actually really would, don't I,
I think?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
yeah, not.
So See, I am telepathic withAshley because you just look at
her and you know.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Not to like, not to engage in nonsense, but what to
know to stay away from.
Like if you meet somebody andyou know.
However, would that make theother person telepathic, or is
it only like?
That gift is only for you, it'son your face?

Speaker 5 (53:22):
It's like that.
I don't need your mind.
I know what's the other one,what, what women want, or
whatever, when he could justlike read women's minds or
whatever.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It would just be what I could use to just stay away
from people that I don't want toengage with.
I would like to be telepathic.
I mean, I think, though, withfamily, like people might think
things from time to time thataren't really you know what I
mean, like things that come intoyou don't, but you would know
that if you were, if you couldread.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
But would you want to know that?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I would not want to know, I want to know.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Like if your kids are so mad at you and like they're
just like I'm never talking toher again.
I don't know, I'm just like,yeah, but it's like that, yeah.
I would yeah, yeah, becausethen it stays with you and it's
like it was just like a fleetingthought, that's like gone.
Yeah, like you become I don'tknow, like when a self-harm is
things like that.
It's just like it's there andthen you don't think about it
anymore.
But if that person saw that,they would think about it all

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the time.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
So it makes sense Like all right.
I don't think we'll just not beable to see things or move
things.
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't
know, hey laundry, yeah, likemagic wine Laundry here, yes,
One bottle here.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Yes, groceries.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I would like to be able to control the weather.
Same Me too, now that one andfly.
We would be fine on each otherright now.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yes, that is so true.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Yeah, you don't be freaking crazy.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I'm like no, you would gain up on you, you would
gain up on me, I would just pushthat air.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Nine months of each in the air.
No, I only get three.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
As I call my son in Miami, he's like yeah, there's
actually an eight and a onesomewhere in our like, whether
today we have a one minute eight.
Yes, but yours is the eight one, yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
I don't think it's been this cold since I moved
here.
No, it's really good.
This was really bad LastDecember.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Last December was bad too.
What would you do?

Speaker 4 (55:15):
then, so a lot of teens.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
I think it's because that's when our pipes first.
Yeah, a lot of people had theirpipes first then I think it was
maybe about the same, but itwas like a little bit longer.
But yeah, I, always a lot ofpeople had their pipes first.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah, I do not remember that.
I thought this was the coldestever.
My poor parents are you stillhere?
And they're like my dad is likemy nose was burning today.
When I took a breath in I waslike, well, you're not dressed
for us.
Yeah, yeah, it was lovely, kindof.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Miami.
You didn't think another funthing would be.
So remember our one of ourfavorite guests from last for
season one, tracy Andreessen.
You know she did.
I thought it was really cute.
She does like a weekly kind ofbroadcast for her practice but
she had her husband and anotherguy on talking about like what
men like always wonder if itlike are too afraid to ask or

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whatever.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I thought it kind of fun I would love that Her
misconception, and then she'sfine, we have Dr Pam here that
can help us navigate.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Yes, I can mediate, so we'll just sit there and say
Mediate and say okay, I'll tellyou, I'll tell you, I'll tell
you.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yes, exactly I would have to jump in.
I mean, I do think that it'sjust what is it that men are for
Mars or men are for Venus?
Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.
Women and men can stick myfirst, so long.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I would love Ashley to be an intern in your office.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Oh my God, can you keep it?
A message I don't know.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
Ashley should come in as a client for what my interns
will be like.
I did not get awarded.
Oh my God, it was awesome shejust talked about it.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I want to know everything, absolutely.
I'll tell you exactly what youneed to do to read me.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
No, I just can't imagine a couple coming in or
someone coming in and Ashleyhappened to just sit there with
a neutral face.
That would never happen.
No, oh yeah, poker face.
Oh, I see, I see, I see, I see,I see.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
I see, I see I see I see.
Oh my God, we can else come inwithout a correction.
Mhm, not to be as negative witheach other in the first three
seconds, no, oh yeah, poker face.
Oh, I do not have one.
I just why I do not sample atall neighbourhood liberty об,
because I mean seriously thefirst three seconds, although,
it usually lasts a lot longerthan that that you can.

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I mean my girls at the storeLaugh all the time at me when we
might have someone that come inand it's just, I'm just rolling
, I know.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
I love that idea, though.
I think that's good.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
I think it would be amazing we could get questions
from our male listeners too.
That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Can you mail them out ?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
We're coming for you Because we do have great male
listeners.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
We do.
We sent topics that they'd likeus to discuss as well.
That'd be super cool.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Topics for the year.
What kind of guests do you wantto see?

Speaker 3 (57:56):
We're an open book.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
We're excited for season two.
I think it's been a lot of fun.
We need people to send ustopics, questions.
We love having ideas.
I think it's cool that, eventhough we're middle ages and
we're middle age women, we'vegot young and old and male and
female, everything in between.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
I think it's cool that we've got a range of
listeners.
We're great for another season.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Awesome Cheers.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Cheers.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
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