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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Middle Age-ish Podcast.
Authentically andunapologetically, keeping it
real, Discussing all thingsMiddle Age-ish, A time when
metabolism slows and confidencegrows.
Join fashion and fitnessentrepreneur Ashley Badowski,
former Celtic woman and founderof the Lisa Kelly Voice Academy,
Lisa Kelly licensedpsychologist and mental health

(00:24):
expert.
Dr Pam Wright and highly soughtafter cosmetic injector and
board certified nursepractitioner, Trisha Kennedy
Roman.
Join your hosts on the journeyof middle age-ish.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of
Middle Age-ish.
My name is Trisha Kennedy Romanand I'm joined here today with
my co-host, Ashley Badowski,Lisa Kelly and Dr Pam Wright,
and you are joining us for oursofa talk.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yay, we love it, I love it.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
I say that every single time I know, so happy, so
much fun.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I have my deeper sexy sinus voice tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
You do yes.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah.
I hope I can make it throughwith my voice going the whole
time.
You sound hot.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Isn't it funny how we sound hot when we get sick?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh yeah, do I sound like I'm 5'10"?
Yeah, you bring me some time atall, I mean it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Did you guys ever see friends when?
Monica was sick and she did theVIX and she's like are you sexy
?
I know I mean.
Why is it?
I mean some of us, well, not.
Some people are blessed with araspy voice.
I however, am not no, and Ionly sound like that when I'm

(01:34):
literally on death's door.
And that's so unfair becauseeven Michael would be like hey,
and I'm kind of like hey, atleast you're going hot.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Hey, Ashley would go out hot.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
She'll be like oh, I mean literally in the Monica
from Friends situation.
I will have my robe on, my hairwill be just looking like I
don't know what happened and Iwill have that zingzy voice and,
yeah, mike will be like, hey,okay, so I have a question.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay so when you are in school, did you dress up in
pinhole makeup every day, andlike you know what I mean Dress
up in pinhole makeup every daybefore you left the house.
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I feel I don't feel like I.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I bet Ashley did.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I was like, I feel like I did.
I can't necessarily remember, Imean cause there was a big
thing, like in the earlynineties, like wearing like
boxer shorts and a likesweatshirt and stuff.
So I would do that.
But yeah, more than likely youwere allowed to go.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, yes, no dress code.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, but I mean in college, but actually we we
actually did that in high school, so it would have been like 88
or 89.
I don't even know what we hadgoing on that day, but it was
like no, I literally wore myreally good friend's boxer
shorts and a sweatshirt and myhigh top Reeboks, that's so cool

(02:58):
Because.
I was so cool.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I will have to say I do think that I always
would have had my hair done andlike makeup.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I feel like you just like going to the airport.
You're not going in your like.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Oh my God, you're going in like.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
So I feel like that's the way we were, Like we would
go every day, Like if I went tocheer practice I would be
dressed up with makeup.
But now it's like, it's so funny, Like this generation it is
bizarre when you're like whenshe's cheering and she goes to
her games, she's like I'll makeup.
And then when she goes to class, it's just like, but we want to
look the same in everyenvironment.

(03:30):
Does that make sense?
No, totally.
If I get up to brush my teeth,I want to look like I am in full
makeup going to brush my teeth.
It's so funny.
It's like they can look one waywhen they're going out on the
party, they're like oh my God,like I heard, and then you see
her like in real life.
They're like oh my God, yes,but I think that they are so
different with their makeup.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, no, that's such a good point Going to class.
But like I feel like every timeI went to school I was like
well, I think that thousandpercent I'll be in four, four
and a half inch heels.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I have never flown anywhere in my entire life and
honestly, I've been on so manyflights lately and I think about
you.
I'm like, oh gosh, ashley wouldbe here and like like dressed
up.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'd be like everybody would be like oh my.
God, look at this girl.
She's abnormally tall, becausewith like four or five inch
heels I'm like a good six four,six five, but a thousand percent
I am looking at people withlike flannel pajamas and
slippers and no makeup.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
And they look like they just like woke up and like
rolled out to the airport andI'm like, wow, it's very
different than it used to be.
Oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I've.
I've taken that from like whenwe would fly in the eighties
like my.
It was like, literally my dadwould be in like khakis a sport
coat.
I mean it was like it was likea super big deal and I have
never given up on that.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
So I mean you're so good Cause I just feel the
planes are so dirty that theydon't.
I shouldn't give them my niceclothes, Like do you know what I
mean?
Like I think years ago, in the80s and 90s, it was such a
luxury to travel and it was, andit was.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
And it was, and it was, it was, it was, it was, it
was.
Yeah, no, it really was.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
But now like you're sitting down, you're picking up
goldfish crackers off the andwhatever else definitely getting
smaller, like, or I'm gettingbigger.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I mean okay, I have to say cause.
I mean it takes an act of Godwhich, at this point in our
lives, as we all talked aboutour pelvic floor and yes, act of
God does happen, yeah,especially if it's like over
three hours you're just going tohave to release.
Ashley has to go to thebathroom, and again, it's not
like I'm a short person, nope,but I become like a gymnast,

(05:47):
like trying to maneuver in there.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
You have to be I totally agree, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I feel like that they have.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They're so much smaller they are.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, like they put two rows in and cut back the
bathroom.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Try to change a baby's nappy in their diaper.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Absolutely not.
It's the mile high club.
A myth, then, because I don't.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I can't even fit in there myself, for me like for me
and my husband.
I mean he's six five and I'm,and again with heels, and we all
know that I fly in heels, soI'm a good six four.
I would be a world class gymnastIf I cause, I will tell you
like there was one time likeprobably, like I don't know, it

(06:31):
had to have been a couple ofyears ago and Michael and I
would be joking about it orwhatever.
We've been together like sincethe beginning of Christ, but we
joke about it and like.
So now, like every so often, ifI have to go to the bathroom,
you know I will literally like Idon't know if anyone can hear
outside the bathroom, but I'mgiggling because I'm like I
cannot pull my pants down myselfin this super tiny room so how

(06:53):
do these people have sex in here?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Like I don't think they do anymore.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
So they were bigger bathrooms back in the day oh
yeah, they're so small, but it'sso funny because now I get on a
plane I'm like, oh, yay, I'm onthe aisle so small, but it's so
funny Cause now I get on aplane I'm like, oh, I want the
aisle.
I used to be like I want this,like the window seat.
No, now I'm like I don't wantto have to ask to go to that I
can get up again.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
But Michael and I always sit side by side, so
there's that.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
But if you're in a three seat, we know who's flying
first class, so we just sitside by side.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
He flies our plane, so I'll tell you how my flight
story where the girl next to mewould not get off the phone.
Oh yes, and we had to come backand deboard the plane.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I would be so pissed off.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
At literally midnight and I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And she's like.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
And literally after they told her like hey, okay,
we're turning around Causeyou're not respecting the rules,
and then she refused to go offa plane, so we all had to
deplane.
That's crazy At midnight.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm telling you, entitlement is such an illness
and there's such assholes.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
If they tell you to go off the phone, just go off
the phone.
Just hang up the phone Just be.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
She was talking to like a boy, about like what's
now it's because she hasabsolutely no empathy and she's
just an asshole.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I would never.
My parents would literally hangme oh my gosh.
Probably in the airport.
Can you imagine it would hangme in the airport?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, if you're just like, no, I'm not going to get
off home oh we're good.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
I do feel that behavior has gotten really bad
on planes, I agree.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, I do feel really bad for the stewardess, Like,
yeah, I've heard so many storiesfrom them Cause like a lot of
not a lot, but I've had severalover the years that have like
worked at the store with me whenthey were going through college
and they are, yeah, they flynow and their stories and it's
shocking how absolutely justentitled and entitled and
there's just like almost no soulfor this behavior and how they

(08:50):
treat people that they feel Idon't know who knows, but I
don't know who raised thoselittle nightmares.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
You can really judge character by the way they treat
A thousand percent On waitressesyou can always tell someone's
character is how they treat.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, a thousand percent, lisa.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I read something on people.
I think I don't know if wetalked about this, but there was
a guy that was sitting next toa girl and she was like a little
bit heavier, and he was like,oh my gosh, I'm sitting next to
this, like that girl does itlike went off, like was going
off on her, and the guy behindcould read what he was saying
and he literally said let'sswitch seats.
And the guy was like why do youwant to switch seats with me?

(09:28):
He's like because I read whatyou just read about her and she
read what you read about her andshe's crying and I want to
switch seats so I can like bethere to comfort her.
I mean, how do people just nothave souls?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So I can like be there to comfort her.
I mean, how do people just nothave souls, like seriously, how
do you like talk bad aboutsomebody like to your person.
Because you know it's not like.
He's like some supermodel ohyeah, not that that would even
justify it but you know thathe's some kind of miserable
human being who's probably justlike.
It's not like he's some amazingspecimen.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
But to read somebody write something awful about you,
you specimen.
To read somebody writesomething awful about you, you
haven't interacted.
They don't know you.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
They don't know like anything, like how are you but
that's like, yeah, like how doyou like that's something that
you feel that?
You have the right to writeexactly like there's no self
awareness and again, there'sjust no empathy I know I mean, I
mean, why are we to this pointin our lives that we're like
just kind of looking around usand we're like this is a
cesspool of nonsense?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think it's just so easy to voice your issues,
concerns, voice whatever overlike text or like Instagram or
Facebook, without it being likeyou're not looking in the face
of the person saying like, hey,you know, you're not calling
somebody a fatty or whatever.
Can you imagine back in?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
the 80s and early 90s and mid 90s, before all of this
stuff happened, if you lookedat someone and was like, oh, I
can't sit next to you becauseyou're overweight Like, can you
even imagine?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
No Ever.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Because before it came out of your mouth, you
would be like that's not thething to say.
That's not the thing to say,that's not right.
Where's some self-awareness?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
But it's cowardly to hide behind a phone.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh, it's so disgusting.
Just this world, the delusion.
There is not enough Tito's toheal the cesspool of nonsense.
Just like reading.
Cause trust me, I'm trying andit's not working.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
It's about Diddy and everybody else and we're like
the news Because, trust me, I'mtrying and it's not working Just
like reading the news aboutDiddy and everybody else and
we're like, how did?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
this happen.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
How is this happening ?
This is just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean, it's like we've said so many times If we
wake up and realize that we'rein some type of bad B movie, I
would not be surprised, like theTruman Show, but even a worse
version of the Truman Show, wayworse.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
This cannot be our reality.
I don't want to be a part of it.
Every day is something new.
I always tell my clients I'mlike just don't watch the news.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
If it's bothering you , just don't turn it off, just
turn it off.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, that is true, you do have the power to just
turn it off the crazy thing isis like I've turned it off, but
it's still it's.
You still see nonsense on adaily basis.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
We're dealing with people all the time.
Everyone here is dealing withpeople Customer service in some
capacity.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And so like cause that's how I was too, Like I
have gone completely, like Idon't watch the news I don't
listen to, like I listened to myeighties Makes me, it takes me
back to a really nice place.
That's why, but yeah, you stillhave to deal with like that
entitlement and I really dothink that it's like, it's like

(12:28):
a sin to be honest.
Like it needs to be one of thecommandments Like don't be
entitled, don't be a dick, right?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, don't be a dick .

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I have a shirt that says that.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh my God, I wear it on a regular basis, alrighty
guys, we might need to make ourown t-shirts.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Don't be a dick.
And we're going to put them onthe website and we're going to
sell them.
She already does.
Well, I want it to be us.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
So like don't be a dick.
Middle-aged says be a dick.
Middle-aged says middle age.
Yes, exactly, yes, be a dick,that is so.
Yeah, that actually quite a lotunder my breath.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Oh, you're such a dick.
How do you?
Yeah, but isn't it like thefacial expressions like I love?
Have you guys seen those memesfrom schitt's creek?
I freaking love I love schitt'screek, but like how they like
their facial expression.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
She can get away with saying everything I know, I
know and I just feel like that'skind of like we think that
we're well.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
We all know that I'm not incognito because, like the
first three seconds, I'll likecross my face.
You're going to know exactlywhat I'm thinking.
But yeah, no, I've got a goodshow face, I can do.
I've heard this for a bit Ikind of given up on it.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
But you have such good empathy.
So when you read stuff thatbothers you, like, how does it
resonate?
Cause like like even us talkingabout, even before we went on
about all this stuff going onwith like Diddy and stuff like,
does it not just?

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, I don't know Like I think I've gotten so used
to reading different things,even about like even, you know,
even down to reviews when youused to shows you just read
really awful things or likeYouTube comments, like that was
the first thing that.
So I'm very I'm actually verygood at kind of shutting out
toxicity.

(14:10):
I'm pretty good at that but I'malso very I can be very
obsessive, so I like there's aso's like an anonymous Irish
dance board Anything anonymousyou already know, but this is
horrific Like it's absolutelyhorrific.
I've seen things about myhusband.
I've seen things about my kidson it.
I was like awful things and Iused to read it just to make

(14:32):
sure that there was nothingabout them and then I went, why
am I doing this?
Like yeah, you have to stop.
So I'm pretty good at kind ofdrawing a line and I'm the same
with people I can like I candistance I can actually close
the door and it doesn't, andI'll never feel bad about the
person, but I'm just like it'sover.
I need to stand up.
It's over for me.
And if it's over for me, it'sover for me.
Yeah, there's no going back.

(14:55):
Won't remember why I closed thedoor on you, but I'll know I
did.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'll feel but I won't know why.
No, you're right, I had aclient who tried.
That's where my memory's reallygood.
She was doing modeling and shewas like okay, so I'm doing this
modeling.
And she would go on like her onInstagram, facebook, whatever.
And it would be like, oh,everybody was so positive, but
there was like these threepeople and she could say exactly
what they said verbatim.
And I'm like, okay, this iswhere you have to say like the

(15:19):
majority says this and thesepeople say that, but it's so
hard to do, that you can'tabsorb it.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yeah, and I think the things people often say about
you are sometimes the things youthink about yourself.
Anyway, do you know the way?
And somebody kind of pointsthem out, so you kind of go,
that's exactly the way.
No, I think it comes from apoint of insecurity.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I mean, that's what makes us human, and so I think
that those when you see, butagain when I go back to
anonymous, if you can't say itwith your name- then it's just
BS.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
But even when they say it with their names, like if
it's on like Twitter orInstagram or whatever you're
like, okay, well, I don't knowthis person, but they're like
literally cutting me to the core, no, but I think that and that
what Lisa said is so valid, likeif, if they were saying
something that you knew werelike whatever, like that's

(16:07):
insanity and you just move past.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
But if it hits something because we all do have
insecurities and it doesn't, itdoesn't have to make sense to
other people.
It's like it's our journey andwhatever.
But if they any any way, nick,that little insecurity is when
that starts to blossom.
I mean, and that's just.
I mean again, it's just usbeing human, but my God, they're
just such.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
And I I feel like for you too, it's like going from,
like people coming at you orsaying things about you, versus
your kids.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's a whole different level.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's a whole different level.
It's a lake, mama bear.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Oh, that is is that is a legit we're all the trash
about our kids.
So how do you, how do you dealwith that?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
because you're looking at well again, we were
saying when they're anonymousstuff, it's never true anyway so
yeah, they're, just they'retrolls, they're just trolls, so
that kind of thing.
But you do, I like I think youalways want to defend your kids,
or I feel like go the oppositethough with the kids sometimes.
So if somebody says somethingthat isn't true about them, I
make I like I probably getoverly sensitive.

(17:06):
Go, no, no, you can't do that.
You have to like to a pointthat they can't actually be
themselves.
Maybe sometimes I'm like, no,don't do that.
Or or like always look likeyou're happy.
Or and then I'm like why, whybother?
Like it doesn't matter becauseyou can still be the nicest kid
in the world.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Because they're just miserable people out there and
negative will always try andbring out negative.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well, and they don't really know your kids.
That's the thing they don'tknow you.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
They're sitting on a couch.
They're like oh look at thisthey probably haven't spoken to
someone face-to-face in 20 years.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, first of all, they're known enough to even be
on a forum, so that's kind ofcool right there.
Well, there's that, they'retalking about it.
They weren't.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
This is so funny.
When I was a news reporter, Iused to go and listen to the
voicemails.
This is probably going to bebad, but I used to go.
There's no such thing there.
Yeah, they're like oh, I don'tlike her shirt, why does she
wear that color dress?
Her hair doesn't look goodtoday and I'm like it wasn't

(18:02):
about the productivity, likewhat I was saying.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's all visual, it's all superficial.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I don't like her hair , I don't like her dress.
Why is she standing like that?
Why is she standing over thishalf of the map but not that
half of the map?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Because I was doing weather and I the map because I
was doing weather and I'm like,oh wow, this is like not even
about anything I'm doing, like Ican't win.
Can you imagine like so nowit's like tenfold, right, yeah,
but just think about like okay,so the four of us?
We wouldn't even really thinkabout that if we were watching
the news cast.
So, like think about thatperson and their mindset, that

(18:39):
that's what they feel justified,you would be surprised.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, and I mean I'm sure I don't like her outfit.
She's showing too much of this.
She's doing this.
I'm sure it's just soridiculous.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Ridiculous entitled to sit there and judge someone
that is giving the news or theweather, or singing or whatever
we're doing, and is judging, butbased on something that's not
even relevant to what they'redoing.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Well, and you're 21 years old, you're a
perfectionist and you're on anewscast at 21,.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You're like oh gosh which is huge Like that in
itself is so amazing.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Like, listen to everything and you're like what
can I control?
Oh gosh, they don't like myhair, they don't like my makeup,
they don't like my shirt, theydon't like when I wear blue,
they don't like I mean that'swhy I'm.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
How do you make everybody happy?
It plays into your head untilyou get to a certain age that
you can.
That's what I was like.
You can clap back and I did itonce I've only done it once.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I was not able to do that back then.
But, yes, no, you wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
You try and change yourself then and you're going.
Why am I doing that?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Because then you're going to make somebody else say
like oh, I'm sorry, I wouldprefer her in blue.
I want her to stand on thatside of the stage, but I do
think right.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
As we've said so many times, that middle ages, like
that's one of the things, one ofthe many things, but one of the
top things that I'm so thankfulfor is I don't care.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I will hear some comments and there's moments
where I'm like but when I wakeup the next day I'm like no, I
know exactly who I am and I'mnot going to make everybody
happy and I'm not going to look.
I mean, of course people aregoing to say things, but that's
the blessing Cause.
When you're young like you,don't have that confidence.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
And I feel so bad for our kids now because they get
it so much worse than when wegrew up.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think you have to be like at a point to where you
can kind of balance, likeobviously you want to be able to
hear input, you know, cause wedo do things wrong.
You want to be able to hearinput, you know, because we do
do things wrong.
But as far as like somebodybeing in front of what you're
wearing your hair- yeah, that'sconstructive.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's not confident, that's somebody not confident
in themselves.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
But how did you do?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
that Confident people aren't going to bash on.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
No, a thousand percent, nope, but I'd love to
know how you dealt with it,because I was like at a small.
You know what I'm wearing andI'm like, oh gosh, I'm on the
news.
This is ridiculous, but how didyou deal with that?

Speaker 5 (21:00):
There was two incidents Like so.
One was in Celtic Woman, wherewe used to meet and greets after
every show, but there was fivegirls at the time.
So if you were doing a meet andgreet after the show, people
would pay extra for a meet andgreet, but when there's five
girls, five.

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Irish chatty girls.
Those meet and greets could goon forever and you could go into
some places and you'd have 100people or you could have 115.
You've already done a two and ahalf hour show.
Right, it was exhausting.
So what we did was we startedlike two girls and then the next
time three girls, yeah.
So anyway, I was on this meetand greet one night and this man
walked in.
He looked at me and he went notyou again.
I was looking for Maraid and Ilooked at him and I meant not
you again.
I thought George.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Clooney would be here .

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I was just so pissed off I was like, oh my God, you
actually think I want to besitting here with you as well.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
And then I was like you paid to be here.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
But then the second time.
The second time was actuallyworse because I was older and I
just moved to Peachtree City andI was the mascot for the
Peachtree City 4th of Julyparade.
Yeah, now, I hate things likethis.
So I really really, contrary topopular belief, I don't like to
be in the spotlight at all.
So like, I don't like being, Ijust don't hate it.

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I hate it.
I like I'll run from the photos.
A pure bar, I like, I justdon't, I don't want to be in the
middle of anything.
So, anyway, but I agreed to doit because I kind of felt
browbeaten into doing it.
I did not want to do it at all,so I was already a mess.
I had just had Harry, so Harrywas about a year old and we had
just opened the voice academy,so it was a good business kind
of opportunity.
So I had to go find somethingred.

(22:40):
I hate red, so I had to go findsome red anyway.
So I found this lovely reddress.
As much as like I don't likewearing red dresses.
So there's a picture of mestanding beside the car and a
photo, and I posted it on myFacebook page.
And this man and I don't.
It was already in the horrors.
It was an awful day.
Didn't want this man went.
Oh, the southern cooking isobviously working wonders on her

(23:02):
and I was still nursing at thetime, so my boobs were massed,
and it's my fourth child.
I hadn't lost the baby weight orwhatever, not that that's an
excuse.
So anyway, boy did he get.
He got a page log essay from me.
I am so good for you.
And of course he was this big,fat, roundy old man that I'd

(23:23):
never even heard of before, sohe'd never even like he'd never
been to my algorithm.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, I'd never seen him before.
Never followed you.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
So I basically went through like pouring my heart
not pouring my heart and soulout but I was like, look, you
got me and I'm really strong andI'm really confident and this
didn't bother me.
But I do want you to know thatif you do this to somebody else,
this could be detrimental tosomebody else.
Don't be a dick.
And basically that was thequote.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm telling you we're going to guys, we're going to
have t-shirts.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Don't be a dick, he responded I felt like such a
tool afterwards because heresponded.
He meant, oh wow, I can'tbelieve you replied.
Michelle Obama and Beyoncedidn't reply what I said to them
.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh, I was like oh, but that was such a waste.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's the problem with trolls, Well but as a
psychologist, people like and Iknow this they hold on, like
they can tell me everythingnegative said to them ever, ever
in their lifetime.
But the good thing is I'm likeokay, well, what teacher, what
person said anything good to you?
They're like I don't know,because the good just goes in
and out.
No, but that's so true.
It's like in customer service.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Someone will post about a negative experience
someplace.
Oh, trust me, but you couldhave 20 positives, yeah, and
that's fine.
People don't post about it.
But you had a pod like they hada positive expense experience
but if they have a negative, itis like they will jump down your
throat.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I think I've realized that I don't know if you know
this and you guys the same way,but people who are negative,
they're going to post and peoplewho had positive experiences
they because that's the worldthat they choose to live in.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
If they want to see positive, then that's their
normal, that's their life, andif someone lives in negativity,
then that's their life andnegativity will, then it cause
negativity.
Kind of wants to be at theforefront, like they want to be
the one speaking and expressingand drawing attention to the
negativity where positivity is.
That's just the world I live inand I love it and I think
they're fabulous and that was agreat like I loved that dinner,
but I don't need to post aboutit because it's just fabulous.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I agree and that's why I look at like when I look
at reviews, even for my company,I look at Google reviews, I'm
like, okay, well, people who arenegative they're.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh, this was like they were five minutes late or
whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It was give them rainbows and unicorns every
single day, delivered by Santaand the elves, and they will
absolutely rip you apart.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Have you ever looked?
If you see a negative review ofa business and look at, you can
look and see that person'sGoogle reviews and they're
usually negative.
But a thousand percent you'reright.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
But people don't look at that and they're just like
oh wow, this place, yeah, andyou're like oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I just I do hope that more people really think twice
about and I'm not saying thatnegative reviews are not valid.
I think that there are somethat are but come from a place
of like let's just look in andget some more information and
let's not just take this onething, because if you've had a
good review posted yeah, ninetimes out of 10, that per like.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You could never make them happy, and I'm not just
saying that, because.
I'm in customer service.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
It's just, I've been doing this for so long that you
have to like I wish that morepeople took the reviews and like
just did their research, orlike tried to go and get their
own experience from it and notjust be like, well, I'm not
going to go there because that'swhat this person said.
That person is probably awalking nightmare.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
And the people that post are the negative ones.
It's like people had the bestexperience ever.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's people who are like oh, this is because I think
sometimes, when you gosomeplace and it's so amazing,
you just think that that's wherethey are and they're so great
and you're like my God, thisplace is fantastic.
You don't think, oh, I've gotto let every single person know
in the world which the positivereviews are fantastic, but.
I just wish that more peopledid research because a lot of

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those negative reviews are.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
I actually never read reviews on anywhere and
sometimes we'll get reviews andwe're like you weren't even at
our business ever.
So I have no idea.
I had one as well.
I remember one negative reviewwho?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
are you yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
They're going to review you because you didn't
give them their way.
Like I've gotten that a coupleof times where, like they want
to leave a really nasty review,but it was because we didn't
give in to their demands, andI'm a firm believer that you
don't make exceptions.
You treat everybody the same.
So scream and yell at a 19 yearold is not going to get you

(27:46):
your way.
And then they leave a nastyreview and you're just like okay
, but it's not in my policy.
It never has been, no, ever.
There are rules, right.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Right, so just follow the rules.
It's all good.
When I first had my first job.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I was Right.
Just follow the rules, it's allgood.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
When I first had my first job, I was 15.
I worked at Macy's and I workedin the like hosiery department
and this lady comes back in andshe's like oh, I need to return
these pantyhose because theywere like ripped.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
And so I was like oh, okay, yes, ma'am, how can, and
so I opened up the pantyhose andthey have like yeah, I used to
put, like red, yeah, the nailpolish just stopped the run.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
There was red nail polish everywhere and I'm like
I'm sorry, ma'am, you're likeI'm sorry, we don't sell red.
I can't return these becausethey have red nail polish
everywhere.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right, they've been worn multiple times.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And she's like I didn't do that.
They came like that.
I was like, okay, ma'am, I'm sosorry I have to call my manager
.
So I call my manager and I'mlike thinking, yes, you know how
.
You're like yeah, and themanager's like, okay, yes, ma'am
, we'll take these back.
And I literally looked at herand I was like you are the devil
, yeah like.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's the exact reason that I have never I've like now
polished on the pantyhose.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I kid you not, this is a true story.
And I'm like, and to that day Iwas like okay, I just give up.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I tell my girls all the time and I don't know if
they're listening to this, butif you are now you know why I've
said this is because when youmake exceptions that have,
there's no rules.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Like.
You can like if you makeexceptions.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
There actually is no rules and there's no standard,
and there's no boundaries.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
We learned our lesson in parenting with that.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
That's what I say to my parents all the time.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
My girls, know when they say what our policies are,
and someone will always say Iwould like to speak to your
manager or whatever.
When I say the exact same thingand that's what I always tell
people is like the thing is youwould hate me more if you're on
the other side of this and thatI didn't let you return this.

(29:50):
And then you came in and youheard me and you saw that I did
return something very similar,exactly.
I was like that's actually theworst customer service ever is
when you pick and choose who youthink is more important than
the rules.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Or who's the loudest, who's the rudest?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, I mean if I was to ever and I've said this so
many times over the years if Iwas to ever which I'm not, but
if I was to ever make anexception, it would be for the
sweet person to be like I'm sosorry, I didn't realize that was
your policy.
I didn't read my receipt.
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
Okay, thank you.
That's the person.
If I was to do it, that I woulddo it for, other than the one

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who's cussing out a 19 year oldbecause they wouldn't return
something, because it had beenworn, the tags are off, they
don't have a receipt.
With red fingernail polish.
Right With red fingernail,polish and literally is having a
conniption fit on a personwho's just there trying to get
through college, yeah Well, andfor your people.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I mean, goodness, like you're there getting paid,
whatever, but like you're thereto like, support the rules.
So then, if, like, they'resupporting the rules, and you
come up and you're like, oh yeah, we're taking, it back Like
what does that tell them?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
They have no faith in the company.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, Like it's like people in general like the rules
should be followed and, as weall know, right, the rules are
not in this society.
So don't be a dick.
I am telling you.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
If I could put that, if I could sell that in the
store, I would make the biggestdisplay, front and center.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Ashley, we're making shirts that we're gonna sell at
our store.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I wish Trish's graphics.
I'm telling you just about to.
Oh my god, it's going to beseriously hashtag don't be a
dick.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Our personal lizard ticket.
It's gonna be there.
We are not going to abbreviate.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
It is going to be spelled out boldly Don't be a
dick.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I picture like asterisks of your.
You're like going on full on D,I, z, k.
Oh, I might even have.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I might even have some emojis, yeah.
Screaming one that has theblanked out.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I love it Don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh my God, I love it.
Don't be a dick.
Oh my god, no, I literally justwant don't be a dick.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Okay, we just.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
That's our first merch guys okay, I'll wear my
WDick shirt next week for you.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I am telling you hey you need to sell them in your
store because I'm telling youthey won't.
I know, I know I was like, I ama franchise and I think the
franchisor might have a problem.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
but can I do it on a table out front of my store?
I can do it.
I can do it In the park.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I think, why can we?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
not post a t-shirt on our website after this Um, I'm
envisioning it already.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm telling you after this post, don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I'm telling you like after this Middle-aged don't be
a dick, I'm telling you likeafter this post.
I agree.
Let's just let's do it 100%.
Let's sell it on the website.
We would be surprised it'sgoing to take over the world.
I agree.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
It's going to change.
We're retiring off our.
Don't be a dick, it doesn'twork.
When I wear it, though, I haveto maybe wear it.
I saw it, I'll wear it.
I was like Lisa.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I was like I will totally wear it.
I can't imagine wearing it Inmy stilettos my super long hair.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Don't be a dick, They'll be like.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I get it.
I will absolutely freaking wearthis t-shirt.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Especially in couples therapy, I can be like, oh, I'm
wearing this shirt, oh my.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
God, I'm going to, I'm going to, actually I'm so
proud.
Yes, yes, we are doing this.
We are actually going to sellthese t-shirts.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We've already got that for this one.
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay, I love it, let's go I love how our, our
dogs just go in such randomCause.
I mean, what people don'trealize is that before we came
on the air, we're like cause weguys, we talked for like an hour
and a half, two hours two hourscatching up and chit chatting
and we come on the air and we'relike what are we going to talk

(33:47):
about?
And now we have an entire merchline.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
So fabulous.
It's why I love you guys, somuch.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yes, okay, all right, tricia, what do you?
I feel like you want to saysomething.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I'm playing it in my head, don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I'm just designing.
Right now we're doing it, Iliterally cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I swear to God.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I'm going to wear it proud.
I cannot wait.
I think the world needs moret-shirts that say don't be a
dick.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And that way, if someone comes up and is actually
a dick, just your shirt.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
You don't even have to engage.
Well, that's what I do in myhouse.
I literally wear it when theycome home from dance and I stand
at the front door.
I just go.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Have you ever seen speaking of like telling people
what you think, those likelights you put in the car that
can be like it's like as a handand you hit, so it's like a you
put on like the back of your carand it on a remote in your car
so you can like get some peacesign thumbs up bird.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Okay, that would be dangerous for me.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
I should just be hitting birds.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I would just be kind of just tell everybody to F off,
like seriously.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
So I have a funny one .
So for my client she was.
I was like so what are yougoing to be for Halloween?
She's like I'm going to be ana-hole and she's like I'm going
to be an a-hole.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I was like oh okay, how are you going to be an
a-hole?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
She's like I'm just going to put in a mirror, I'm
going to wear a mirror, I'mgoing as a mirror and I'm like,
oh my God, who are you?
And she's like I'm an a-hole.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm you and I was like, oh, you've thought through
that one.
Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
All right, wow, did Halloween come from Ireland?
Yes, did it really yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
It was a pagan celebration.
I was just like, is it theDruids?
Yeah, yeah, it was the pagan.
Yeah, it was Well done.
No, I think it was before.
The Druids still is a pagancelebration, which is kind of
crazy here in the South, right.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Where children are out like getting candy and like
dancing.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
So we would have like in Ireland we would do the same
thing, but we didn't like.
When I was growing up, youdidn't really get that much
candy.
You'd get a few, but you'd getfruit as well, and you'd get you
know the, you know the nuts youget in Five Guys.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I haven't been to Five Guys.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I don't been to the five guys.
I don't know what you call themin like forever, just peanuts.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Oh the peanuts, like the boiled peanuts.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
We'd get those and you'd get money sometimes, and
then we'd go home and have aparty.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
So that was so funny because I was in Australia.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
They don't celebrate us.
They do now, but they didn't,and there was one or two people
and they were like.
I was like oh, we were therefor halloween one year.
I'm here.
They're like what are you?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
talking about.
I was like it's halloween okay,so for the pagans.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
So like, how did that become a celebration?
Like what is the pagans like?
What are they celebrating?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
no, I was actually.
I should really do my homeworkon it, because I'm gonna totally
go down this okay deep yeahbecause tomorrow is All Souls
Day.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Right?
No, I've heard of that, butI've heard it from New Orleans,
so I had no idea that it camefrom Ireland.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Also, I'm wondering if it might have been a
celebration of the dead on the31st and then the first was All
Souls Day, or they murderedpeople on the 31st.
This is how dark I'm going thatthey may have murdered people
on the 31st.
This is how dark I'm going thatthey may have murdered people
right on the 31st and then thenext day was also.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
We say all saints days, but it's also on the first
yeah.
On the first yeah, because whatdid I?
Well, yeah, I'm gonna have tolike look into that, like what
is what?
Did the pagans like?
Who do they worship?
Like was nobody, nobody paganssee, that's what I'm.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, they don't worship anything.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
No, no, but then how did they worship Halloween?

Speaker 5 (37:18):
They didn't.
I think it was like I don'tknow.
I don't know whether I'm makingit up and someone's going to
tell me I'm wrong, probably, andI probably have.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
But we're wrong about a lot of stuff, but I don't
know, they may have burned theChristians you all had no
Halloween.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Well, we always had Halloween in Ireland, yes,
always.
Halloween was huge, oh really.
And then on the 5th, and that'swhere, like all the costumes
came.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
So you dressed up in something different.
We always dressed up.
Yeah, what did you dress?

Speaker 5 (37:45):
up as Madonna every year.
Oh, that was such a good one Iwas like Madonna for everything.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I was like Madonna.
That was not.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Halloween for me.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I was like just cool.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
So, it was always big , halloween was always big there
, huge, oh yeah, yeah, alwayshuge Was it everywhere in Europe
?

Speaker 5 (38:04):
No, I don't think so, and I don't even know if it's
that big in England, because itwas not in Australia at all.
No, no, no, I know.
Yeah, we were growing up,because on the 5th of November
they have Guy Fawkes Night,which is a bonfire night.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
So he blew up the House of Parliament.
Yeah, he was the one that blewup.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they have fireworks and bonfires
that night, but fireworks arebanned in.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Ireland, but y'all did Halloween.
I'm glad halloween yes oh yeahcool.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
We always did halloween.
Yeah, bonfire actually.
Now that's a question I havefor all my fellow americans here
what makes fireworks patriotic?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I think it's like the yeah, the whole, like that's
how they like.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
They like when they would burn the ships or they
would blow up the armories andstuff like that, when there was
a wind, there was a big.
I think we should know thisactually.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, I mean I, but I do feel like like they would
like when the opposing armies,armories and stuff like that,
when there was a wind, there wasa big.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I think we should know this actually, but I do
feel like they would when theopposing armies would come
through, in whatever side youwere on here, you would blow up
the armories.
That was your celebration oftaking the person that other
side down.
You would blow up all of theirarmories.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I don't think it was a firework.
I it was a cannon more likely,but that's what the fireworks
are supposed to represent.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
I think because I was on one of the local pages and
they were like this is so unfairto the dogs, which is true, it
is so unfair to the poor dogs,but then all these people like
are coming.
It really is patriotic.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
This is who we are absolutely medicated, yeah, like
forever, and like it really istraumatic, and also like I mean
you hear about, like the PTSDand the servicemen and stuff but
it, yeah, like it's, it's uh, Idon't know.
I mean, I've always heard itwas based on the opposing army
would come through and blow upthe armory of the person that

(39:53):
they were taking over.
So it would take all of theirlike their ammunition and their
all that stuff out and it wouldbe these huge explosions.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
We do so much PTSD in my office EMDR brain spawning.
That's why I I mean we did itwhen the kids were little and we
thought it was great until.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I like I did a little bit more research, and
especially with the animals, andthen, yes, the, the servicemen
and first responders that haveptsd it's, it's like so
traumatic, yeah, for like justso people know like emdr and
brain spotting are like the two,like number one things to help
for ptsd yeah, so I just in ouroffice, but I'm like it's really

(40:33):
.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I mean, you have to be trained to do that kind of
trauma.
It's like so severe.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I just wish people really didn't need to do them
anymore.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I think for one short little moment of celebration,
it does do a lot of damage.
And you can celebrate whateverit is Fourth of July or whatever
, especially because the animalsget so you can celebrate it in
so many different ways and notI'm so traditional I like.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I mean, I don't even like the loud noise that I have
to cover my ears, but I think,like I think it's good like that
day yeah but like it's maybegood to like do it like kind of
like a set period of time thatway you know, everybody knows,
this happens, it's happening andthey're not going right, so
they can medicate, yeah, yeah, Imean, there's some people
that'll do it at like 1 and 2 am3 am yes, I mean, it's just
like it's trauma for the animalsand those that suffer for like

(41:24):
24 to 48 hours, depending onwhen the holiday lands, on what
that day is.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
So everybody out there, please be mindful.
Don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick.
Oh my God, don't be a dick.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Don't be a dick.
Oh my God, don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick, don't be adick.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We're making the shirts.
I love it.
Just cheers to that, cheers,cheers.
Everybody.
Don't be a dick, oh I love it.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Thank you for joining the ladies of the Middle
Age-ish Podcast as they journeythrough the ups and downs of
this not young but definitelynot old season of life.
To hear past episodes or makesuggestions for future episodes,
visit wwwmiddleagishcom.
That's wwwmiddleageishcom.

(42:08):
You can follow along on socialmedia at Middle Age-ish.
Also, if you have a moment toleave a review rate and
subscribe.
That helps others find the showshow and we greatly appreciate
it.
Once again, thank you so muchfor joining us and we'll catch
you in the next episode of theMiddle Age-ish Podcast.
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