Midjourney Deep Hours: Existential Dread, But Make It Funny

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What's up everybody? Mid journey Fast Hours podcast
episode 41 Rory Flynn, Drew Brucker and My Beautiful Glass
Milk jug. Bottle like that.
I like that. Very old school, very milk man.
We drink out of glass over here,man.
Like that? You know.
I, I agree, you know what we tryto do, like the whole like,
let's get rid of like a lot of our plastic stuff and then

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before you know it, it's just like there's more plastic
somehow. Yeah, well, my my wife has been
pretty. About, yeah.
Yeah. So I mean she like she's holding
me accountable on it. Like we so like I think we're at
the point age wise and also intothis concept where if we find a

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nice glass bottle, I don't care what it came in or where we got
it from or what labels on it, we're probably keeping it.
We'll just take the label off, clean it and all that means good
glass bottle. All right.
Keep it gonna last. Cuz these, yeah, the plastic,
the plastic stuff and you see this stuff come out about like
zip lock and all that too where they were.
Talking. Sure, it's not good.
Oh boy, they're sure it's not good boy, zip lock is talking

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about cooked. Zip lock is cooked.
They I mean, they were basicallysaying I'm going to do a
terrible job at this. But like at this point in life,
like people have what is it? It's like a size of.
A credit card. I think it's bigger than that.
Yeah, but but it's like in the brain now, right?
Like they're like that much, right.

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And it's like, oh, OK, cool. How how's, how much?
How's that happen? But anyway, zip lock, extreme
cold temperatures, extreme heat really starts to bring all that
like microplastic into the food.And then also right.
Because that happening, that's where you get all those those
brain, you know, diseases, Alzheimer's, you know, all this

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shit. So it's like, oh, OK, like makes
no sense. Actually would have not actually
surprised to hear that at all. Checks out.
That's right. Do I never?
Like I look at the microwave andI'm like, how is that good?
Like I've dude, I've been looking at that shit since that
was a kid and I'm like, this feels so wrong and.
It's like stuff in bags, like the TV dinners when you're like

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hard plastic and soft plastic, just like, how can that be good?
Like just microwaving at extremeheat.
Just plastic. And I was guilty, right?
Like you just, you heat up those, like, plastic containers
that are maybe leftovers. Yeah.
Like, yeah, hot pot, anything, dude, It's.
Yeah. So it's terrible for you.
If if you're hearing this stuff for the first time, I'm sorry.

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And we're also not crazy. This is this is checked out.
But yeah, that's a whole rabbit hole in itself.
Also like. The I was gonna say like the,
you know, those memes where it'slike the European mind can't
fathom. It's like, you also can't fathom
how disgusting some of the stuffwe've done for 30 years is.
Like you'd be ashamed of, Like I, I'm ashamed to say some of

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the stuff that I've put in the microwave.
And, and we've both lived in fraternity houses, so we've.
Oh yeah, we've been, we've been at the bottom.
Like we used to make jokes that like in our basement where we
threw part, it was just like, the cure for cancer is in this
basement. Yeah, just haven't found it yet.
It's like in here. It's like in these drains, in
these couch cushions somewhere. But it's so true, like soup used

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to eat, like, you know, those microwavable soup things that
was like in plastic. And the ramen and Campbell,
yeah, whatever it was, all that.The metal cans.
You also had the. Yeah, like the Styrofoam stuff,
I mean. Styrofoam.
Oh God. Yeah, yeah, just heat it up.
Organism. Throw it right in that food,
baby. Dude, you know what messed me

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up, though, is I went, like, when I was really discovering
this stuff for the first time, and I don't know, this is maybe
like 10 years ago now, but I watched also, like, this
documentary on Netflix about clothes.
Yeah, clothes. Yep.
The clothes stuff and it was like oh, like, oh, fuck me up,
fam like we're we're just doing this non-stop, right.
You got the food, you got the clothes.

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Then there was like the whole everything, toiletries, like
anything in the bathroom, right?Soaps a.
Scented soap. Scented.
Fragrance, yeah, all the all, you know, your, your skins and
organs, soaking it up. You know, it's just like, dude,
what are we doing? Growing up in the 90s, I mean,
like we have to, we have to be more resilient because we've
doused our body with more chemicals, internal and external

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than any other generation. Like I mean I put everything.
I kept I kept Flaming Hot Cheetos in business single
handedly for a good decade. They're still good.
I still will eat them. Same thing with Doritos.
I don't know what they are, but they taste good every once in a
while. I mean, I'll eat them.
The orig. The original. 3 * a year, yeah,
that's original. I don't need anything else.
Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean.

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Corn Ranch are good, but they'renot the rich.
Yeah. There's certain things you just
gotta, you just have to like deal with the consequences.
You know, Reese's peanut butter cups for me, I will eventually
just deal with the consequences.I don't eat them every day.
I eat them like once once every like 2 months but damn good.
Did I love me some Reese's peanut butter cups?
Though Yeah, I knew when I worked in.

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This is just like, sorry for everyone listening to us about
American problems here, but whenI worked in product licensing, I
won't say which company because I don't know if they're gonna
hear this, but I remember we were making a like my job in
licensing, if anyone's not familiar with that industry is
like you take a brand and then you find a manufacturer and you

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put them together for like brandextension.
So we take like X brand and thenwe go find a ice cream company
and then we blend them. So it'd be like, you know,
someone who makes ice cream would do like a Reese's flavor
of ice cream, right? Like I'm AI wasn't Reese's.
I'm just using that as an example.
But when they when we had to go through the like the product
approval and like the the packaging said ice cream, the

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company came back and said we can't use ice cream.
I'm like, what do you mean it's an ice cream?
It's that's what it is. They're like, no, we have to use
the term frozen dairy dessert because it doesn't not actually
like right 30% cream. It's like, yeah, 50% chemical.
And I was like, oh God, that's disgusting.
It's like you find out some of the other ingredients that are
in like both sides and you're like, oh, no, I don't want to be

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a part of this. This is like poison.
Here we are. That's what happened.
That's what happens, man. They, they must, they, they,
they put, they put Philip Morris, all those, all those
people from the cigarette and tobacco industry, they put them
in the food industry and they just let them go.
But the best? Man, what is this like?
Yeah, I guess like somebody willcall this conspiracy, but these

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are facts, people anyway. Speaking of conspiracy, there's
Did you happen to see the the stuff on Claude 4 Opus and
what's going on with that, with that?
I briefly but but but tell us. Apparently like it's it's very
strong and like confronted with it and I might butcher this like

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confronted with its own, you know, potential deletion at some
point in the future was. Like right, like we're, we're
gonna shut you off and. Yeah, like blackmailing
employees, like sending e-mail, automated emails to like, key
decision makers. And I'm like, it's like, oh,
Claude, it's a little spicy, wasn't it?
Like I was sort of clawed as like the they were doing.
Things. The moral?
Yeah. The moral ethical.

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Good writer, like maybe like a liberal arts major, you know,
like not necessarily, you know, but then also the coding is so
good, but it's like this. I never saw it as like being, I
don't wanna say dangerous, but like I look at grok.
I'm like, oh, that has potential.
Look at ChatGPT, like probably just, you know, gaslighting me
at all, at all, you know, at corners of the, of the Internet.

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And then there's, you look at something like I figured like
Llama would be the one that would just like, I'm gonna ruin
everything 'cause it's Facebook,you know, how much crap has it
been exposed to And like, how much trauma does it have from
Facebook? So it's, it's weird, Like I just
didn't see Claude as being the one that's like, yeah, I'm
gonna, I'm going to screw with you guys just like waiting in

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the background. So that one, that one got me a
little bit. We're at like a weird point now
I think. We are we are we were talking
about this pre hand. I mean, like obviously we're big
advocates for AI. Also, you don't really have a
choice, right? So I mean there is a level of
like you have to embrace this regardless or what it what it
means for you, what it means foryou right now, what it means for

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you in the future if you've got a family, right?
What does this look like? But it's like, I don't know,
man, it feels like we're on thatback half of the 9, right?
We're it, it, it's just like we've this kind of feels like to
me, we're, we're getting to the,the back half of this golden
age. Figure it out.

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This is a lot of fun. Wild, Wild West.
You know, there are no real boundaries.
A lot of like Gray areas kind offeel like almost, you know, and
look, I was a kid during the Internet era and like having
this, you know, the whole AOL thing.
But there were a lot of like really interesting liberties and

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creatives and like no one reallycould totally wrap their arms
around what's happening and the totality of it yet.
And this is that on a larger scale.
And now it kind of feels like just man, what's what's
happening in 10 years? What's happening when I'm 60 or
70? Like I literally can't even

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fathom it at this point. Like my mind can't even go
there. And I'm just thinking like the
compounding speed in which this stuff's happening, like you're
starting to see people or companies really start to lay
off, you know, portions of people, white collar jobs now.
So that's starting to happen. That's only going to increase,
right? But what does this look like in
five years, 2030, you know, and and when you really think about

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it, AI should be able to do almost any job at some point
task. So so who's going to be to the
one to decide what it actually is going to do and not do right?
Because you obviously aren't going to have to do everything,
but you wanted to do most thingsand then who's going to decide

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those things? And then what does that look
like for, you know, there's obviously going to be new jobs
that come out of that, but what are those wages going to be?
Are we, are we still working 5 hour days?
I like, I, I don't know, man, it's, it's just a weird thing.
And then now with the kids, obviously you can relate to
this, but it's just like, is my kid ever going to drive a car?
Is my kid going to go to college?

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I don't know, like I don't thinkso.
I. Don't know are they going to
ever like at a certain point, are they going to see a real
doctor anymore? Or is that just going to be like
you get you get like diagnostic scanned and like diagnosed with
something and then like bang, like like, I don't know.
I think it's you wonder what's aweird thought I had the other
day. It's like a weird mid journey
deep hours. I was just like, yeah, right.

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I was, I was thinking about it as like, yeah, all these jobs
that, you know, they were going over all the jobs that were some
I was forgetting who I was listening to that were going to
be replaced or whatever. I was like, we've we have just
created so much, so many ways toemploy people.
Do you know what I mean? Like go back 100 years.
What was it like 100 jobs maybe like there was like, you know,

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make the food, make the products, make the, you know,
like build stuff and like, you know, clean up and like like
that was that maybe maybe more than 100 years.
I take that back 200 years, right?
Like there is. For every, well, even before,
even even before computers, right?
Like, yeah, there were only so many things that you could do
with just tangible everything versus digital.

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Yeah. And now we manufacture.
You think about all the manufacturing sub jobs, then
there's the Internet, how many sub jobs there are.
There wasn't a social media team.
Now, you know, then you needed asset teams and you needed
copywriters and you'd like, we've just done an awesome job
as a race of like getting peopleto be employed outside of like
farming, building stuff and like, and keeping things clean,

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you know, And then like governing.
And like that was to me, when you look back at it, I was like
all that and you know, kind of everyone was more
self-sufficient. Like you grew your own food, you
produce your own energy, you built your own house.
Now it's like we have someone for every little task.
Can you imagine like 200 years ago someone being like, oh, can
you fix my plumbing? They didn't have plumbing, You
know what I mean? Now there's a plumber, but then

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there's a whole industry that supports a plumber, you know,
makes all these stupid little products for every little thing
imaginable. And then there's someone has to
concept those products, engineerthose products.
Like it's just a weird deep thought I had and I'm like, it
can't replace everything. Like there's so much and I think
people just get, you get lost inhow much we work as a species.

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Like we do a lot of stuff and there's just no, there's no way
to quantify that. Like how, how, what do 4 billion
people do everyday? It's like some, so some stuff is
so specialized. I don't even think it's possible
to I I mean. But but I think like the the
real scary part, right, is we'renot there yet, but we will be

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when shortly when AI is smarter than any single entity person on
this planet. And then how do you control
something that you built that isnow smarter than?
You. I, I mean, I, I still don't
really have an answer for that. And also, if there is an answer

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for that, somebody's still in charge of that and who's in
charge? Because ultimately that's going
to sort of determine sort of thedirection we go in here.
Like if I were to come up with 10 scenarios right now looking
into the future of whether or not this is going to be a good
thing, I think 8 of them are negative.
Like there's so many things haveto be understood and coming from

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a moral place and in the right hands and to to really, I think
to wield this properly. And let's face it, I don't think
anybody here has had, you know, this type of power in their
hands, right, generally speaking.

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It does. This moment feels like the
moment, like when social media, like when social media was fun,
like leading up into this, whichis when you know, like, you had
like, Myspace and like the beginnings of Facebook and it
was like you didn't know what you were doing.
You were just screwing around with your friends.
And was that other one? What was that other one?
There was another one. It was like maybe there was an X
in it. I want to say there was like an
X. In it there's Myspace, Facebook,

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those are the two I remember like clearly getting getting
Facebook in high school and be like, what is this?
And then, you know, sort of progressing into Instagram and
then sort of progressing into, you know, Snapchat and whatever
else. But it was like once it was like
once I remember Instagram being like, oh, this is the cool place
where your parent were like there was no old people.

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It was just like Instagram, and then Instagram became like our
generation turned it into influencers, like we turned it
into a business. And then, OK, Friendster.
That's when it changed, Friendster.
But zenga zenga, Oh. I don't remember that, never
remember Zenga. No, XANGA Zenga, don't remember.
Yeah, it was. It was like a, if I remember

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correctly, it was kind of like aMyspace, but I think it was like
a Tumblr before Tumblr. OK, well I remember Tumblr.
That Tumblr even exists still. That was a think so.
No, that was a Tumblr. Was an interesting one there.
How old do you? How old do you think LinkedIn
is? Take a guess.
It's gonna be like 2001. Two maybe?

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Three, yeah. All right, I was gonna say I
remember it being around. Feel like that would be a hard
one to guess. Like LinkedIn doesn't feel like
it's been around that long, but it has.
Because I was, I was in college and they were like, you have to
make a LinkedIn profile and thatwas 2007.
So I was like, I figured it had to be around before that, but
probably functionality way different than what it is now in
terms of like it, I remember being like just like it was just

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resumes, but like I remember functioning a lot differently.
Maybe that's just me. It hasn't.
Doesn't look that different. It doesn't it doesn't I I like
I'm I'm fully on board with the idea that LinkedIn hates its
users and refuses to do anythingfor us actually, like we've been
posting on there for a long time.
There's there's a lot of people that have, but it's like they

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never seemingly listen to the people for what they want for
the platform. They don't share what they're
doing with the platform. They'll roll out things and like
this stealth beta type mode and then RIP them out of your hands
just without saying a word aboutit.
And it's just like, what, what are we doing?
I don't even know what we're doing here.
They'll change the algorithm forthe worst, which is not in

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common based on these social platforms.
But it's like dude. What are we?
Doing I don't even, you don't care.
You don't care. I don't even know if you have a
department working on this stuff.
It feels like most of the time. But like I The thing is, unless
you're a recruiter minus the content, why are you on
LinkedIn? Like that's what that's what I
don't understand is like, unlessyou're on there looking to hire

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people all the time or, you know, trying to get a job, what
else keeps you on the platform other than the content?
That's it. That's the thing.
Like that's what keeps most of your user time on there.
That's where most of your ad dollars come from.
That's where, you know, like just to me it doesn't make sense
as to why they don't focus on like building that program more

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like. I mean, they had a real good
window, too. I mean, they probably still do
have a window. But you know, that resurgence
after COVID where it just seemedlike more and more people were
getting comfortable posting on there and content, It was really
sort of like a little bit of a rocket ship.
You had that great reach. Yeah.
Not anymore. God, do you remember that?

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It was so like easy. God, it was so easy to get like
100,000 impressions. You know, at that time, there
was a period of time there's just like, Oh my God, I already
know. This is gonna, like this is
gonna, this is gonna cook, dude.Feel like 100,000 impressions
like 5000 followers now you knowwith 100,000 I I'm lucky if I
get 40 or 50 impressions 4050. Well, you're still, you're still

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doing really good content. I don't post most of the content
like I used to. I, I did a lot more carousel
stuff. I did do one recently.
I'm I'm actually curious what I did get in terms of impression
count on that now that I'm thinking about it because it's
going to be way, way low compared to what we used to get.
Well, they make it hard too. Like the other day I was trying

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to figure out a format that worked like I want to do like
the way that like, you know how you can do threads and you can
like on X and you can do like a video and an explanation, a
video and an explanation, a video and an explanation.
Like that makes it so easy to dovideo content that has like a
story to it versus just like, here's one full piece, like a
TikTok style explainer video where you can't like really go

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into depth. You can, but no, most people
don't do that. Yeah.
I mean, it's not that great anyway, the stuff that I've
seen. But I was like trying to do that
on LinkedIn. I'm like, I can't, I can't like
post a thread because they bury the comments.
So I can't like tell the story in the comments and post a
video. It's just like now I have to go
and create like some sort of like pseudo explainer video.
I do think it would be like it would be interesting for them to

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explore that thread format. Yeah, or at least like upload
like multiple, like multiple videos that you can just like
string together with like a description.
Because like that, that to me onX is like the best.
It's like the best way to show stuff.
It's like, oh, OK, here, this, Iknow this, this, this, Yep.
And it's, it's easy because it'sall like, yeah, it's.

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Compartmentalized, yeah, yeah. And then it's, you know, it
collapses and you know, so it doesn't look like it's too much.
It's it's fed to you. I this like this like this post
with the carousel. 329 engagement, 33 comments, 18
repost, 36,000 impressions now like I would say like you know a

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bad post two years ago was 36,000.
Oh yeah, 36 was I was like, I was like, this sucked.
This bombed. Yeah.
Now now I'm like, oh, OK. Like this is that's that's the
average. It's crazy.
It is. It is nuts because even, you
know, I look at some of the stuff and everyone's like, oh,
look at these guys complaining about their their impressions

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and stuff. But it's just, it's knowing what
used to be that way and what's not that way anymore.
You know, like getting a poster from two months ago, 6000 likes
and 504 repost. It got 589,000 impressions.
That used to be like 5 million impressions like that was they

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used to just like let that thinggo?
Yeah, yeah, They just don't. They just like cut it off at the
knees. It's you get one hour.
You get one hour now. Yeah, thing you get one hour
now. Whereas before it seemed like
that that first hour really was indicative of the half life of
it for the rest of the day. Yeah.
You know, and then you know. Yeah, it's Yeah.

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I don't know what they did. They throttled the hell out of
that thing. Either way this.
Is totally different like ex. To me is like I get nothing in
the first hour and then like as it like over time it just starts
to build and it's like, oh, the more it's like the more it picks
up over time, the more it like goes verse like, oh, it's just
based on the first hour. You get here's like your

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adrenaline hit and then off a Cliff.
Because you know, it's a great thing about YouTube too.
It just goes in perpetuity. Like there's no burying it once
it's posted, it's there forever and it still continues to grow.
But there is. I was wondering if there's going
to be like a new social media that pops up out of all of this.
I, you know, thinking about justsort of how things have evolved

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and kind of been in a stagnant period where the like the most
recent one was the threads, you know, like from Meadow, like, I
don't know, like another. Pop, I mean, everybody was so
excited about, but then you realized it was like, oh, this
is the same thing. And then we're thinking Mark
Zuckerberg is going to turn thisinto a gold mine here, right?
Like, yeah, he hasn't done anything since Facebook in terms

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of like, things that have reallytaken off.
Yeah, anytime, like anytime there's something it's it always
seems like it's underwhelming orit doesn't do anything.
Just acquired stuff, you know, like they acquired WhatsApp,
they acquired Instagram, they acquired right just keep like
building that way. Then that's I guess that's smart
in a way. It's just it's tough to keep.
That up, it's like a different goal, you know, just like
maximizing revenue at all costs.Yeah, the yeah, man, I do, I do.

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I do think something else is coming.
I wonder if it's now or if it's like 2 years from now.
But I do think like what what wehave now feels like these could
be legacy platforms. Yeah, like you see it, like you
see interest waning on, like yousaw how it happened with
Facebook. It just.
Like something, something, something will die.
Something will die here soon, yeah.

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Facebook won't because of the the ad reach.
Like that's the that's why you're there.
You know, if you're a brand, like you're not just sitting
there posting on your Facebook brand page or they're advertised
on there and Instagram, right? And then like TikTok changed it
the way that that was, you know,the algorithm is so favorable to
people, which is like, I don't understand why people wouldn't

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want to do that. Like just why this?
So why? Why?
The goal is to restrict views. When the goal should be to
increase. Views for people because then
you just create more. That's that's the truth, you
know, But I was wondering if someone would do like a I'm sure
it probably already exists like AI only stuff like an AI only

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like generated social media or like why did some of these
social media or some of these AItools have an institute of like
their own? Sort of like the way Mid Journey
has the create and discover page, like if you had a profile
that you could post to, I'm surepeople would use that and like
that and be all over it. Like might be individual to the
platform. Like I think Cling does

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something like that. I think Minimax does something
like that, but no one uses it. Yeah, I mean, they do, I don't
know. But there's there's just like
things we're not even thinking of yet that are going to change.
But again, on the deep hours side of things, here I was
thinking about like, does e-mailexist in five years?
Like. Yeah, Yeah.

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That's good, right? Yeah, That's, that's always a
good question. I, I will say this, I think
that's a, that's an interesting question too, because the last
two in house jobs I've had e-mail has not been as active as
it has been historically. Slack.
Yes, yes, emails still come in. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it's,

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it's mostly Slack. You've got the async components
you've, you know, you're probably using another tool like
a Notion or project management and just whatever that stack is
like. Yeah, just doesn't really feel
like you need it that much. What happens when the 2D, the 2D
flat screen goes away? That's what I mean.
Like you think about that like we're not going to have a

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computer forever. Like it's not going to be,
that's not going to be it. Is it going to be glasses?
Is it going to be spatial? Is it going?
To be Doesn't the glasses thing feel interesting?
But Can you imagine everybody wearing glasses though?
I think it's, I think it's interesting because it feels the
least invasive. It feels like I, I wonder if
it's like a, you know, the blackmirrorish type thing where maybe

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it's like, sort of like a lens, like a contact lens.
It'll get there. I think, you know, everything
gets smaller, but I feel like the VR goggles are so it's so
weird because you get so disoriented when you put them
on, you know, like our our brainjust like is like, what is this?
But like the glasses doesn't feel as invasive.
It's like, oh, I'm just integrating with what's already
happening outside. So maybe I've always seen that

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as like, oh, that was a good pivot for whoever was doing it.
It's like, oh, yeah, that that makes more sense.
Like I might be more willing to do that than to put the VR
goggles on, You know, probably that then put a chip in my brain
too. Like, I don't know if I'm there.
Right. Yeah.
I don't know. I'm definitely not there yet.
Like, you know, thinking of likewhat happens if you're like, you

(25:46):
have exposure to like electromagnetism or whatever and
your your chip just, you know, freaks out and then done dead.
I could have the power of the world in my.
Do you ever see that series Altered Carbon?
Yeah I remember watching it like8 years ago whenever the hell it
came out. Totally forget what what it was
about but feel like it was aboutsomething like.

(26:06):
Did you watch it though? Did you watch it through?
I don't remember I. Didn't watch the second season.
I remember, at least for me, waslike awful.
I didn't watch it. I cut it off.
I think Anthony Mackie might actually been in that second,
that second season. But that first season, man, that
was that was great. That was great.
That was before its time really too, because you could put that

(26:28):
on right now and still feel a little ahead of its time.
Did you have you been watching the Studio on Apple TV?
Yeah, I'm all the way up. I'm all the way up to date on
it. That episode with the AI where
it was like everyone was the whole episode was based around
like fitting the racial stereotypes of the cast and like
making sure that things weren't racist, weren't racist.
Like if anyone's not familiar with this in America right now,

(26:50):
like this is that is a fairly accurate, I think, sort of
conversation that happens in most companies.
And then like they went through this whole episode of like
making sure that every characterwas like represented and like
wasn't in the same way. And they get up on stage and
announce it. And then everyone's like, I
heard you used AI instead of real artists.
And then like the whole thing goes to shed.

(27:11):
So it's like, you know, that's you can see that happening,
right? Like no matter what you do,
something's wrong. But the AI conversation, you
know, it's still very even to make it there into that and be
very prevalent. And yeah, I think it's a real
response right now to what you're going to see if people
start saying like, yeah, we used100% AI and like no artists like

(27:32):
that's you're going to see that push back.
Like, I'm seeing it, you know, even from, even from like.
Yeah, just because you can't doesn't.
And that's I think, yeah, just because you can't doesn't mean
you should, right. So how are those decisions made?
You know, And then like, at somepoint, have we gone too far and

(27:53):
then it's hard to rain that thing back in.
You know, yeah, that was like those those Instagram photos I
sent to the other day from the wildlife photographer.
And I was like, hey, I just can't do that.
Like, that's too, that's too good.
That's too real. And I look at some stuff, I'm
like, it's not there. But there's there's so much low

(28:14):
budget content that AI can do, you know, like that's that's
just like brain rot, like no need for anyone to spend, you
know, invest in. And I was sorry to say that some
of the stuff is it like really is.
And yeah, machine can do that. If we're just putting out
content for the sake of putting out content, then yeah, we can,

(28:36):
we can find a job for AI there. But yeah, we've we've created
this. Yeah, this is the This is the
era of mediocre content being created.
And you see so much of it. Speaking of that, the you know,
the I, I if I see one more post that's just we're cooked or
we're done or XX product is done.

(28:56):
It's just like, how do people still just see that after seeing
it 1 billion times and are like,yeah, I'm going to click on this
and read it. It's like.
It's the most it's the most brutal, you know, engagement
baiting posts that exist on the Internet right now.
It's. Almost as bad as game changer
back when ChatGPT first came outand it just said everything was

(29:19):
a game changer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go. Single thing, but we've we've
ranted everyone sorry. That was that was, you know what
we call half of mid journey deephours right there where Drew and
I have some some random thoughts.
That well, I think I think there's like, look, you know,
there's a there's an interestingjump that we talked about last
week, right, and there's there'splenty of things to get into

(29:42):
tactically, but at the end of the day, like I don't know for
mid journey specifically, I guess what I'm looking for is,
you know, it seems like they're they still haven't rolled out
that sort of like multi piece Omni reference update and it
sound like, you know, based on like offs hours that they were
having some trouble with that. Yeah.

(30:04):
You know, you've got some thingsthat are still going to be maybe
seen in the short term. They're talking about like the S
ref update. That's cool, right?
But like, I don't know, V7 really hasn't shaken out the way
from its totality that I thoughtit might.
And I know like now they're already talking about V8.
You know, they're already talking about V8.
So it's like, OK, but I don't know.

(30:26):
V8, though, it doesn't feel as exciting as it did when we're in
V6 and we're talking about V7, right?
Yeah. It's like, OK, well, I don't
even know what to expect now. Now they, they are talking a lot
about their video update. They're talking about June.
That they said June. Is that what I was listening?
I saw in the office. Yeah, I missed June, but.
Let me let me pull up this off Cyrus on the video.

(30:47):
So what I what's in the notes here we've got.
We've got, let's see, where's this at?
Initial testing, OK, video modelrelease launch targeted for June
contingent upon availability of new server farms.

(31:10):
First batch arriving within a week.
So it sounds like just maybe theinfrastructure part of it's
holding it back at this point. Yeah.
So, but I mean, I have no idea what to expect with that.
You know, in typical mid journeyfashion, they don't really tell
you too much either other than, you know, they've talked about

(31:30):
multiple video resolutions, they've talked about a couple
different maybe ways to get there, right?
Text to text to video, image to video, sure.
But beyond that, haven't heard much. 2 interesting thoughts
from this what I did hear David say yesterday.
Maybe I'm misconstruing it because of my own bias because
we've talked about it on here. But there was sort of the

(31:53):
inference that like there will be mid journey baked into this,
like how we were talking about like we just want some mid
journey magic. That's a little differentiator.
Like he's sort of, if I'm reading into the reading between
the lines correctly, sort of, you know, they, they always have
to do something a little bit different.
So I think he kind of confirmed that, which I was, I was excited
about it. And the other thing going back

(32:16):
maybe like 2 months when they were talking about video,
remember when he was like, we could do a really high quality
model, It's just going to be really expensive and like, what
would you pay? Yeah.
And I, you know, we were both among the along the thought
process of like if it was like $150.00 a month, $200 a month.
Yeah, if you doubled it, you know.
That's where we'd go. They were good.
Look at VO3, what's that pricingpoint, that price point people

(32:39):
are paying for it, you know, because it's, because it's
quality. So I think he, I think either he
knew what was going on at Googleand like had seen stuff or like
gotten wind of it or probably knows people there.
And you know, that's sort of like, oh, we could, we could put
this quality at this level with this price and still turn a
profit. Or we could do it sort of like a

(33:00):
different way, like Mini Max, right?
Where Mini Max is way cheaper per Gen. and you know it's still
serviceable. I mean, he and then I think like
the one thing he's always sort of like anchored back on when
talking about video is hike. We're not going to do this if
it's not the best quality when it releases.
So I mean if it if it if that isstill true, I would 100.

(33:24):
Percent, especially if it feels less technical than some of
these can feel. Yeah.
And let's just face it, like fora lot of people, Mid Journey is
just a much more comfortable ecosystem because we've been
using it for so long. Right, Yeah, totally.
And you know, like I've, it's weird, like you go through all
the platforms and you start to see things you like and you

(33:45):
don't like. Like I've grown to sort of like
Lumas, like like brainstorm sortof situation there.
It's to me that's it's nice to have.
There's having to like sort of think everything off the top of
my head and just sort of take itin different directions.
Lumas UX UI to me is still weirdthat it works.
Like I still find myself like getting lost in there on certain

(34:07):
things that should be simple, like rerunning a prompt, like
things like that where. But you look at Cling and I'm
like, Cling is pretty accessible.
But then you start looking at their website and there's a
million things on there now likeVO2, I think we talked about
this last week. It's just like, there's three
things you can do. Yeah.
And that's about it. So it makes it clean.
You go back to like the simpler days.

(34:28):
But I'm wondering if they're going to do this.
I wonder if it's going to be integrated into the like the
same platform that everything ison images or if it's going to be
separate like they did the editor.
You know, I feel like they mightdo it that way just to sort of
not have to, just to get something out and have to screw
around with all the UX. But it's like, I don't know how

(34:49):
they're going to do it. I just don't.
Yeah. And yeah, I mean, typically like
how they release it too is they always kind of say, you know,
this feels like a alpha or beta version of it.
So we're going to continue to improve it.
So I, I don't know if that's just like slick positioning in
the terms of like don't, don't get your hopes up too high kind
of thing. And we're just going to ship it.

(35:11):
But I wonder if they'll treat it, treat video the same way
because, you know, we were talking about that last night.
It's like you kind of have one really, really good shot with
the impression here, especially for people that aren't mid
journey loyalists in that sense.So, you know, this is your dip
in the water. And then again, if you go into
video now you're getting thrown in with the rest of the sharks

(35:32):
there in terms of the velocity and pace, you know, and and
that's where again, yeah, yeah. And that's where again, like
having something that different does offset a little bit of
that. But.
It's it's interesting because like you see some of these open
source models too that are coming out and like, I've tried
some of them. They're, they're OK, you know,

(35:53):
like you can do a lot with them.I see a lot, I see a lot of
people doing interesting things with them, more so in the comfy
space than anywhere else. But it's like, I don't, I don't
know what to expect there. And if it's the thing about
Google is Google can go into VO3and like VO3 could suck and they
could scrap it and nothing, nothing's bad.
Like they can just continue as as casual business day.

(36:14):
Yeah, they got so much money. Yeah, mid journey, I don't know
if they can survive like I'd like a if it is just terrible,
which I don't think they'd release it if it was terrible,
you know, I think they're they're self aware enough to to
release something that's that's quality.
They'll just delay it like they did V7, you know, And I still
love. I think V7 just still doesn't

(36:35):
get enough sort of credit for how good it is.
Like that stuff I was doing. It is good.
I I just wish my I wish my I wish my profile was better, but
I also like I, I, I probably could, you know, like I do have
multiple options with personalization to go back and

(36:57):
build out a new one. I do have two others.
I don't really love those either, you know, but I could,
you know, try to go back and build another one.
It's just I don't feel like the ranking system, even though it
wasn't great to begin with, it like I've always historically in
the past really liked my codes. Yeah, and I thought these times

(37:19):
were better this. Time not right, and I'm pretty
much ranking them this the same way I'd always rank them so.
Yeah, I found myself using a combination of three on every
prompt. Like it's very personal as
close. It's one that's super gritty,
it's one that's super soft, and then there's one that I just did
sort of like is the wild card that they seem to balance each.
Other out give me something to prompt bro 'cause I have 544

(37:42):
fast hours to. Burn Holy what 544?
544. Damn dude, you're you're
accumulating. 544 and I'm not gonna, you know.
I'm just I just run stuff on turbo and run at turbo and like
R40 on like S referendum which. But but then you get the problem

(38:02):
of like, go, you got to go through all of it.
Yeah, that would be. So it's like, in theory, it's
great. It's also like, damn, you still
got to spend a lot of time curating, going through.
And it's like, what do I care about here?
Now that we just mentioned the Sreferendum, what does it say on
office hours? Cuz David said that S ref is
gonna get better. I personally think it's awesome.

(38:26):
I don't know how much better it gets like.
All all it says here is major improvements to SRAF nearly
complete, significantly enhancing usability and
functionality. What do you think that means?
I like, I'm so curious, like. From a usability and
functionality standpoint, where are are you going to?
Is this a like quick trigger to codes that you like?

(38:49):
And if so, like I could just go in and if that's the case,
right, like build out my own folder in the organizer archive
tab of that doesn't really feel like like I don't know what else
to expect there. But yeah, usability and
functionality, compatibility with mood boards confirmed and
then potential early release without the advanced S

(39:12):
referendum feature being considered.
I don't know what that. Oh S referendum.
Maybe it mistranslated on the onthe the, maybe no thing, maybe
they used. AI for it because yeah, it says
referendum. Because that could be S
referendum it. Sounds like S referendum, I
think. I think that's right buddy.

(39:33):
I think that's right. But because to me, S ref is like
the most straightforward featureon the entire platform in terms
of like what it does. It's like you apply this style
and then style weight 0 applies none of it.
And style weight 1000 goes to the extreme like it's, it's is
gradual in terms of like that scale.

(39:54):
I feel like it's the most predictable thing that I do on
there is using SRAF. You know, I don't know what it
is. It's like too much style style
weight 50 that works like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, it's just 100%. It's like image weight still
like could be a wild card could is this a .4 or is this a 1.3?
Because sometimes you know, likeyou know, that's there.

(40:16):
Omni reference is totally sort of like trial and error at this
point. I just think it that one is the
most is the most like rock solidof the features on there chaos
again, so variable like an Exp variable.
Love me some Exp. Love me some Exp.

(40:36):
We love an Exp though. I think it's it's fun to have
this one back in the mix. That's not like, weird you.
Know what do you want to? What do you want to run?
What do you want to run with? We can just unlock some mess ref
codes here too while we're at it.
Did unlock do? This, let's do this by the way,
I did, I did run, you know, taking you back to that shot you
were talking about. I did run just like a simple

(40:57):
National Geographic award-winning photography here.
Oh, that's sick with that one with.
Some pretty yeah, with some pretty interesting.
That's good results. Oh I like this.
No profile, just straight up. Oh, did I not?
I didn't have profile on. No, I didn't.
Oh, Dazer cut it off for me. Why?

(41:17):
Yeah, no profile. Actually now I kind of want to
run this. Run it.
With the let's do this because Iran sixteen 9916 further proof
if you already know this, if you're watching this, but that
you don't need complicated big prompts to necessarily get great

(41:38):
stuff right. There are definitely some things
that have always worked. Which award-winning blank seems
to always hit National geographics always hit.
So all right, I got this. Let's just run this.
But now I'm running the XP permutation on everything.
I just I just I want to know. I got, I got to see, you know.

(42:00):
Because it's so it has, it has to have the wild card.
Feature. These are sick.
There's so many good ones man, like this is what I'm talking
about with V7. Like you just guys, there's so
much to unlock when it's. Not I love that.
So much to unlock when it's not.Like, bro, I could just
literally hey man, let me pretend like I'm a National
Geographic like or like a photographer applying to be a

(42:22):
National Geographic photographerat this point.
I mean, you so good, right? Like because you could take
these into the Photoshop or light room and really fuck these
up. We'll get that with the eyes.
That's that's cool, like crazy alot, even though that's not
probably not realistic, but I just like this direction.
Oh and I ran these at higher stylized and I wanted to too

(42:42):
but. This is it dude.
It's bringing that blue, the blue and pink in like from your
style code. That's what I'm saying.
I didn't want to. I didn't want to run it that
high. I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do this one more time here, so let's do.
I can't believe. You're just like this.
Let's take this down to like 90.Yeah.

(43:04):
XP. Let's do, let's run it up.
We'll do the What do you mean consistent?
Like it? It is blue and pink in like
every picture. It's yeah, it's annoying.
That would make me nuts. Don't know how we got there,
bro. Don't know how we got there.
All right, let me see. Is this what I want?
Let's double check everything here.

(43:28):
I need to. I want to take this down to 100
now default. All right, yeah, let's run this.
You know what you could do? Here's an interesting experiment
for you to do like, you know youhave like your folder of all
your favorites, right? Like you or your likes or
whatever I. I haven't been liking for so
long. I remember I changed my strategy
and IA long time ago which I hate myself for.

(43:51):
But it's like once you go down it, you don't want to really
turn back, which was anything I liked.
I upscaled OK. There was a period of time where
I treated likes like like So I knew right when it especially
when they had the remember the emojis where I was like.
Yeah, just 4. Days I really like it I'm this
is a 5 right I, you know, kind of like this A4 right, but yeah,

(44:13):
I haven't done that so I just upscale them there's that's how
I would search mine now. Because you could, you could
build. I did this with one, I did this
with a mood board and it was actually pretty good.
I just took like all of my favorite images and just dropped
it into a mood board, dropped itand like as like a style because
it's so all over the place, likefrom like style variants.
And so you're just, you're thinking almost in a sense like

(44:35):
a quasi like personalization in the sense because if you have
enough variability with images that you like kind of.
And you definitely have variants, right?
Like you're, you're doing this, but you're also doing, you know,
nuns with a gun. And they're.
All nuns with a gun. Damn these these have really
turned out even better than I thought.

(44:55):
Oh, that's Stag, I like that. Yeah, that's even that.
These are wild. It is.
It's so good, man. Like that giant insect?
Damn, what's good? What is this and this, what is
going on? Is that Exp 100?
Yeah, it's dope. Because some of these, I mean,
dude, your profile code really is blue and pink.
Like I just see it in everythingnow.

(45:17):
I can't, yeah, I can't turn awayfrom it.
Let's just run a bunch of randomshit.
Dribble.com is always a fun one.Interesting because dude,
drivey, do you want to so I give.
Me something, I give me something simple like let's just
kind of like because I like, I think what could be interesting
is we could run like just baseline token keywords here

(45:38):
that just absolutely slap. I, I mean, like we were talking
about, it's like award-winning photography, award-winning
anything, generally speaking, works pretty well.
Typically. National Geographic works pretty
well if you're going for that type of you.
Know yeah, like. Vibe, outdoors, landscapes,
animals. Gritty, gritty fashion

(45:59):
photography. People, yeah, like tribes, all
that stuff, right? Yeah, all that stuff is
incredible. Dude, look at this one.
This one's wild look. At that?
Really the midrate doesn't have a tendency to produce goats too.
Don't know what that's about but.
This is wild. I I also have another question
for you. When you go and rank rank

(46:19):
images, how much like demonic stuff do you get?
Or is that just me? Like I get like, not much.
Not much. I get so much like like goat and
Antichrist looking things in my.Personal.
Yeah, Let's go in here. Let's go in here.
Cuz I'll, I'll see like if I go rank 100 images, I'll get like
25 of them. No, just some like real dark
stuff and like, I don't know why, but maybe that's just me.

(46:45):
And I feel like some of the likeI'll when you rank like I'll see
some of the same images that I see.
Oh. You do OK.
Yeah, which is interesting. But there'll be times when I get
to like, oh, goat horns and upside down star, you know, like
it's like, why is that in here? And I'll see it.
I saw it more with V6 than I do with V7, but.

(47:05):
See, I ain't got nothing demonicyet, you know what I mean?
That's. Weird.
Did my my stuff is dark like it goes back to that personality
profile that are the personalitytest.
Yeah, that I did. No.
They never told us how they use that stuff, that information.
I wonder if they did factor thatinto anything back end.

(47:26):
Yeah, with that experience, yeah, interesting because.
So I mean, is this what, Like, you haven't seen anything
demonic yet, have you? No, not yet.
Yeah, it's good. It's like goats, man.
Like that one on the left. Like I get a lot of stuff that
looks like that. OK, but like, it's like goats.
Like goat heads. Goats.
Yeah. Like the?
Like the Satan stuff? Yeah, yeah, that's why it's

(47:47):
weird when I'm. Damn, I'm just gonna skip this
actually. You know, I will tell you
though, I've run just Satan before running through different
S ref codes really and and some really kind of like cool looking
shit comes out of it. Well, by the way, I am not a
Satanist at all, but. Just a just a disclaimer.

(48:08):
It's just like, yo, this is kindof dope though.
Like if I were into this, this is dope.
Have you have you tried Homesteader?
Cuz Homesteader. Let's do that too.
For me, whenever I do homesteader it pull it makes it
like like like horror movie. Is it like gross?
Like these are all these are allSatan, you know, but this.

(48:29):
Is what like my this is like what my feet looks like on the
personalization. Is it like it's like, yo, come
on, that's sick. You know, there's some like
really fucking dope. I mean, those are cool.
These I think we're in six now, but this looks like nausea X,
right? Here Yeah, that was like a
little nausea X because everyonewe are not satanists.

(48:55):
We. We but like dude, how cool is
that? You know what I mean?
That's a cool one. That's really cool.
It's like, shoot dude. Yeah, that's.
Give me. OK, so Homesteader, let's run
that. Dude, Homesteader, pull this.
Yeah, OK. Like it's the weird.
It's I get the weirdest stuff. We can show it if you want to.
I'll. I'll pull it up.
I'm not kidding how weird it is.It's like horror.

(49:16):
Like horror, Disturbing stuff. That's interesting.
Interesting. I don't know why homesteader,
but I'm curious if yours comes out the same.
Way as us, yeah, I'm gonna run. Let's run.
Let's run, Satan. Let's run.
Cuz every once in a while I wonder if mid journey's angry,
you know, like. Iconic album covers, An

(49:36):
instrument actually like. Album covers a good.
One I'll just say album cover like some cuz sometimes when you
do iconic album cover, you really do get like sort of like
this baked in look of like top artist covers that have
happened, if that makes sense, like Michael Jackson ish prints.
Japanese movie poster, kind of. That one works, Yeah.

(49:57):
Let's put that one in there. That in this one there's like is
dribble.com like is that, is that like Behance or whatever or
is that something? Different.
Yeah, yeah, You can do behance.net, what's remember we
were doing. There was.

(50:19):
Hbo.com stills archive. I want to see how those work
again. Stills Archive.
Yeah, run that. Let's do like 90.
Let's do. P on or off for this one.

(50:42):
Well, we can do both, brother, because 540 fucking hours.
We'll just run them. Let's do 2550 if this will let
me run this many. And then I put a Yeah.
Do I have an AR in there? No.
What's what do you what ratio doyou think we should do for this?
4-5 maybe? 4-5 Let's do 4-5.
It'll all stack nicely. Yeah.

(51:06):
And let's take this off. You said you could do profile
none, right? I've never actually done that
before. OK.
You can do P comma profile, noneI think or whatever the hell it
is. I forget.
I forget now at this point without doing it myself.
Let's see what we got. And it did get faster.
That was also part of the mid journey update.
Is that 3X faster like turbo? Really.

(51:30):
Damn it. Are you on relax mode?
No, I just had too many at once.All right.
I wish they would just take those away though.
Instead of just having to sit there.
Yeah, because now, yeah, now I got to claw through all these,
but that's a good thing about running the same aspect ratio I.

(51:51):
Can just go boop, boop, boop, boop.
Yeah, that's what a 4-5 or I need.
Those vertical aspect ratios just sit so perfectly on top of
each other. Yeah.
It's a weird one to like. There we go.
OK, let's see what we're gettinghere.
Like we're ripping on batch processing right now.

(52:12):
Yeah, we're messing up their servers here, all right.
Sorry. Yeah, like, OK, so whenever I do
SRF discovery, I told you this, I usually just start with like
that skull emoji because I feel like it's an interesting, it's
like it's an easy concept for meto kind of see how far it's
going to deviate away from that.Does it always include a skull?

(52:34):
Does it not? Is there people, you know, like
I can kind of get a sense of direction where it's going to
go. But then once I do like kind of
source through the ones that I like, then I'll run permutations
with a couple of the same prompts every time.
And dribbledribble.com and dribble.com character are always
two of them because I get reallycool shit with those.

(52:57):
I didn't rundrill.com character here, but you could just click.
These are without S ref code, right?
When you start to apply the S ref code to them, you get some
really cool stuff. That is cool.
What are we still at drill? What is this?
It's. Going to go through dribble it
looks like through all the XPS Ithink.
Already XPS. Got it.
Love that one own stoke because.When you take these then you
build S refs off of them, right?Like I, that's what I do.

(53:19):
Here's your homesteader. All right, so look at the
difference in your homesteader. I just want everyone to take
note of that. Yeah, I just want everyone to
take note. Yeah, this guy looks normal,
man. That looks like a nice happy
scene. They're like, yeah, look at your
stuff. This is unbelievable.
Same with this guy. Oh.
Come on, what is it with my whatis it with my profile that makes

(53:42):
it oh see, we got a goats start getting the goats.
That's. A lamb, that's a lamb that's a
lamb. Oh, I get goats.
You'll see it. That's a good one.
I like. That I was going to say it.
That's cool. That's cool.
Something like. That also I've been finding
myself using describe a lot morelately now that it's.
Been have you? Yeah, like I'll take something

(54:04):
like something like this when you run it and it's just like
chaos, right? And it's like, oh, I like that.
Let's try to pick some pieces out of this one specifically.
I run it through describe and then like see, see what I can do
with it, you know? That's kind of wild.
That is a good one. I like that too.
I don't. Know yeah it's like I don't even
know why I like that but that's sick what is this this is still.

(54:27):
Cool see like this could be a whole mood board this last four
like they that is it all right, never.
Mind. Yeah, here we go, Chaos.
These will be good though. Goat horns.
Always the goat horns. Always, always.
Damn. I honestly think my homesteader
pictures are more disturbing than the same.
Are they really? Yeah, so like this stuff?

(54:54):
That one. See, I like with your with your
profile, right? Like I know you do a lot of
portrait work in there 'cause like everything comes out in
like portrait profile. You know what I mean?
Like from your global, I've noticed that that my pico does
represent a lot of what I do from a composition standpoint as
well. Like my own personal composition

(55:17):
that I that I prompt for, not that I select in the
personalization process. Damn, these are these are
interesting album cover turn backs I like I wouldn't have
thought. You're going to get like vintage
stuff. Here we go, mad Japanese movie
poster here. Sick.
I always love the way this stuffcomes out.

(55:39):
That's cool. It is good that super clean,
just like always, like always, like this aesthetic, that one.
Yeah. That one's real nice.
Very cool Like that again. Yep, very might as well.

(56:03):
Very strong. I'm such a, I'm such a remix
fiend 'cause I would then take that and remix like 5 move
boards and do it and just see what happens.
Really, I I'm so dialed into this, OK, if I like it upscaling
it, I'm going to very subtle. I'll strong it too 'cause I want
to see if I can get just a little bit better, then I'll
kind of see if, you know, there's anything interesting

(56:24):
that spawns off of here. Yeah, I really don't do remix
for, and I'm not saying that's right.
I just don't. But you know what?
Like the other challenge with having, you know, you think you
like all these hours are good too, but that's the problem.
You're not going to spend all this time finessing.
Yeah, an individual photo, right?

(56:46):
So it's like you don't appreciate it quite as much
here, but that's pretty. I like that works.
Mysterious brother. There it is always a good
prompt. Damn, that's cool.
Thank you Severance for that. That's cool.
Oh. Hey yo, you do a lot of Galaxy

(57:06):
stuff with your profile too. Like you get a lot of like
celestial sort. Of yeah, it's interesting.
Yeah. That's that's like AV seven
thing. I don't know why.
Is it? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't get much of it, but that's that's interesting.
What else on this B hands dude? Oh my God dude.
So blue like. Yeah, it it's like.

(57:30):
It's like a system prompt in there for you and.
These are just kind of these should.
These should absolutely crush should.
See portrait work. It's like it just wants it wants
to give you portraits. But it's interesting how your

(57:50):
profile effects everything so different than mine.
Yeah, these are. These are wild.
Yeah. I mean, again, you just did that
and you probably have like 100 something images in there that
are good to turn into something.Yeah, that's The thing is you
got to go through that, you know?

(58:10):
And then, yeah, OK, if you want to vary them, then you got to go
through that. But yeah.
So anything else you want me to run while we're here?
Let's. Let's see, how about I drop you
this this profile or try this profile code on something this
one that I had the mood board that I made last night.
OK, Yeah, put it, put it in. Direct flash.
Let's see here it is for anyone who's interested.

(58:31):
This one is like a just been playing around with this one
'cause I wanted the direct flashlike it's just been it's just
been good. Let's see profile there it is.
Come back to the recording bang.I'm wondering if something like

(58:56):
that with like the homesteader or just just throwing it onto,
you know, homesteader and that will give you something
interesting or like probably looks looks good with, you know,
like party scenes or like a, youknow, night time scenes, things
like that. Because it's it's not, I don't
think it's probably good for everything, but I love that.
I love that direct flash look. Yeah, no, it's dope.

(59:19):
It's definitely cool. All right, here we go.
Yeah, very 90s. All right, So what should I
prompt with this? Do you want me to take a
particular prompt? Yeah, or.
Doing random stuff like. Let's run.
Well, yeah, let's run a few things, like late night, late
night party. Yeah.

(59:40):
In the basement. That's a good one.
Let's do bond, you know, like people with a bonfire or
something like that, Like that'll probably work like like
wedding selfie. Oh, there you go.

(01:00:01):
Like that? Something like that, you know.
Party. I'm going to put party bus on
here. Party bus, That's good.
Those are all those all work. Probably gonna get some jacked
up hands and stuff in a lot of this.
What aspect ratios you wanna run?
I've been doing, I've just been doing four or five on these.
I'm gonna take this down a little bit, and so let's go.

(01:00:24):
Or actually, well, this is your profile.
Is this a mood board or a profile?
Yeah, a mood board. OK, so let's run this thing a
couple different, are we? I honestly haven't played with
mood board in a couple weeks. Are we still thinking that the S

(01:00:45):
value strongly affects the mood board application?
Definitely. OK, I think so at least.
Well, let's run that. Let's run that high then.
Because it's been, this one is like I've been waiting for.
I've been like trying to replicate it so much.
I'm like, let me just build a mood board out of the stuff that
I already have. Yeah, I'm not.

(01:01:06):
I don't do this anymore. It's also I'm going to do this
too. Let's run some Exp on this.
OK, let's see what we got here. There we go.
That's what I'm talking about. Busted feet, but just like,
drunk. Broken Hill, yeah.
Yeah, it's got that like realismgrit to it.

(01:01:28):
Like like 9 of that's weird. See what I mean?
Like what this is? This is sort of what comes from.
Yeah, it looks. Like dark, that's that's a,
yeah, that's a one there right there.
You got a, you got a leotard in the mix.

(01:01:49):
Shit. So it's been that's.
Cool. It's interesting that it's like
showing up. Maybe because that's 75?
That's cool. Yeah, it does get that harsh,
like stark contrast, that stark like harsh lighting.
OK, now these ones are dialed upa little bit.
Stylized 500. Yeah.

(01:02:09):
So it starts to look more more like it.
Damn, that one's cool. Yeah, it's fun.
It's super candid. Like this one.
That one right there with that dude in the and his wife.
Yeah. Yeah, that one looks real party
bus. Party bus.
That's kind of cool. That was a good composition.
Yeah, these are dope. So it's fun.

(01:02:32):
It's a lot more realistic than some of the stuff that I, you
know, than I get with these other generators.
I mean mid journey just adds thespice to it, right?
Like you can put the stuff in, you can put that same type of
style aesthetic in ChatGPT and. Wow, that's some creepy shit
right there. What is going on here?

(01:02:53):
Mid journey it's just it's it's knows that it's attached to me
so it has to be creepy. Unbelievable.
But let me let me pull up the because this is I'll pull up
some of these and then I'll pullup Homesteader.
But. Do it.
Do it. While you're doing that, I I was
running the same prompt over andover again with different codes
and I love these. So simple.

(01:03:16):
Clean, like they, they're like, I don't know, they're like just
super vibey. I was like, dude, I just love
this shit. String that together as like a
GIF really fast and you'd probably like.
Trip out. Yeah, I have AD and Ctrip or
some shit. Let's see.
What we got here? All right, let me let me pull
this in. So that's something else I'm

(01:03:41):
working on. Where where do these things go?
Majority version 7? Where are we here?
Can't even find it when I want to this stuff right, like I was
digging these like what this is So people were running the same
prompt on ChatGPT and like flux and they were getting good

(01:04:01):
stuff, but not like the the detail, right?
Like there's some really solid detail in this like even from
the texture of the of the you know, just like the body
position so much more this one. I was like, this is a great.
I love that. I think that was my favorite
one, that you. Yeah.
With the with the, you know, thehand, the shadow, like, yeah,

(01:04:21):
growing essentially. I was like.
That's yeah, that looks awesome.I like everything about that
photo. Yeah, 'cause this was, I just
wanted this look and like it's, it's so hard to get this look
with the dark, like it doesn't, it never wants to be like night
night in any of these image generators.
Like it? Just like.
Doesn't want it. That is a great point.
That is a great. Point it always wants to be like
golden hour. Or I mean, you'd have to like,

(01:04:42):
really, that's like one of thosewhere you still probably would
have to like stuff the prompt. Yeah, with two or three synonyms
or saying the same thing to get it to it's dark or to it's
midnight. Multi promptable strength.
Yeah. Only the flash illuminates the
environment. You know, like that kind of
stuff. Yeah, but let's let me just see
if I can find Homesteader here so you guys can just enjoy this.

(01:05:07):
Let's go to organize. All right, so here we go.
Not upscales. Oh yo, I just saw something.
What's actually maybe? What's you talking about?
Like some like deliverance type of stuff here.
Dude like look at this, I just typed in homesteader.
Oh well, that's this one I typedin with goat horns to like.

(01:05:28):
See how. Creepy it would go, but this
one's just cinema. This guy's got goat horns.
Go to the one. Go to the last.
Yeah, that. One guy's got blood on his
shirt. Homesteader Epic Cinema.
That's it with my profile code and then we get this one.
Like what is going on here? Wow.
What is happening like wow, right?

(01:05:50):
I'm telling you like it's it's very wow dude, like M Night
Shyamalan or whoever. You know, if you want some crazy
art direction, I'm here cuz I I got it now this one for
whatever. Reason I'm gonna run epic cinema
here too. This one, let's take the
upscales off cuz then you'll seethat I ran this a bunch of times

(01:06:13):
and just how creepy it is. Like this is this is to me kind
of creepy. This just like creepy
environment. Yep, like we get, I get so many
things like this where it's just, you know, let's see like
this just odd. And like, why does homesteader

(01:06:35):
bring this out of of mid journey?
I see if I can find some other ones that are creepy.
I know I ran that. Like, you know, there's our
goats. This one, you know, he's got a
guy with no face and a dog. This one like murderous child
with blood on her shirt. Another creepy child.
This looks like stuff out of a This looks like stuff out of a

(01:06:58):
horror movie. Wow.
So just in case anyone thinks you know, my I'm I'm joking or
I'm I'm playing around like mid journey has like this dark side
that I'm not even prompting for any of this.
It's just being creepy as hell and I don't know how to to not
get it to. Is there you know more more of?

(01:07:19):
I just, I just ran Homesteader Epic Cinema and I did it with,
you know, all the different Exp.So what did I, I ran probably, I
don't know, 5 or 6. And so out of that, what is that
20 to 24 images? Only one sort of came out sort

(01:07:39):
of kind of creepy. It's just me, I guess, you know,
like it's. Just I did get a good one
though. Hold on, let me, I'll have to
show it to you. See if there's anything else
here if this one like let's justsee if there's cuz I ran it on
V6 and V7. It did the same thing for me.
So that's not the one. Let's just let's X out and we'll
see what you did cuz that's I don't know why homesteader.

(01:08:03):
And it's, and I mean, it's not it's, it's not.
Is there like a movie? Is there like a horror movie
homesteader or something that it's pulling from?
It's got to be like horror movie.
That's the, that's the, that's the one I got.
That was the only creepy one. Homestead 2003 Is this a horror
movie? But all the all the rest of

(01:08:25):
these are. Hold on.
Wait, what did I miss? Do you have them up?
Oh, crap. All right, here we go.
Sorry, I was looking at to. See this?
Whatever this was, this was the only one I got that had that
vibe. EG in comparison, yeah, yeah.
But I love that look on his face.
That's tough, yeah. Did your home like homesteader
comes out way cooler for you? Mine is nightmare fuel.

(01:08:48):
I don't know why I've had a few prompt.
I've run a few prompts that end up like nightmare fuel for no
reason. Let's put in nightmare fuel.
Oh well, there you go. I bet if I ran that with this
profile code. Oh my God, you'd probably get
banned instantly. Let's while you're doing that,
I'll run it here because this isjust.
And then we'll, we'll, we'll endon this.

(01:09:09):
This will be perfect nightmare fuel to wrap it up with.
Let's run this. Oh, yeah.
So I can't wait to see what you're going to get then.
I'm running five with with V6 and this profile code because

(01:09:30):
this is my This was my V6 profile code that had all the
weird stuff. So wish you could.
Wish you could use the six profile code for seven.
Damn. Stuff isn't even nightmare fuel.
Yeah, let's see. Let's see.
Like that one's crazy, That one's.
Interesting that that one's I want to pluck you up for a

(01:09:57):
little bit. You got some creepy stuff, all
right. Had it in me.
There it is a little bit good toknow.
Damn, that one's kind of wild. That you got a little bit of it.
Whoa. Do your profile code.
Now, OK, and look at where I'm. I've throttled this all the way
down to stylize 80. I mean, it's so it's just blue

(01:10:20):
and pink. It just wants it.
It just wants it. It's so annoying.
It's so annoying. Let's see so here, that's yours.
Now this one is let's see share.So this one like.
Oh, look at that one. That's pretty cool, but not not

(01:10:44):
anything. This is a nightmare fuel.
This looks like, you know, Tetris.
Not Tetris, Pac-Man, Pac-Man. That's kind of gross, but like
nothing. Nightmare.
This one might be a little bit more nightmare fuel, but.
Not yeah, I got, I got yeah, I got crazier stuff and five, I
had some real weird stuff and. But if I do like homesteader

(01:11:07):
epic cinema, you know, like I might, I might get like just
absolutely disgusting stuff. And we don't even know like I
might just have to run this withmy I just want to see one thing
real quick before we run out of here.
Let's see if it actually is justthat profile code.
Maybe see if his new V7's not the same.

(01:11:29):
All right, so here we go, with the with the epic, with the
homesteader Epic Cinema. Just wants to be.
Creepy as hell. Yeah, like that's, that's got
the that's got the vibe of like the family that goes on vacation
and, you know, rents the house or they moved into it.
They had to move suddenly and then they had, you know, went
into that house and that stranger showed up.

(01:11:52):
Or go show whatever it is. Yeah, like what's the?
What's the? The woods, the neighbor, I don't
know. That like dark wet dog and they
got some creepy stuff. Here is they know how to do it.
They definitely know how to do it.
Then I ran it in V7, so maybe V7a little bit less.
But that's even without weird. I would think if you ran weird

(01:12:13):
too it'd even get creepier. Like, I actually like this
stuff. Like this is cool.
Like I would play around with this.
This is not this is not the, this is not the homesteader of
AV6. Let's put it that way, but.
The homesteader, baby. Who knows if anyone wants to, if
anyone wants to give that a whirl and let us know how it
goes for you, you know, hope youdon't end up with, you know,

(01:12:35):
stuff like this, which is just so odd.
And got a gun pointed at it. I don't know what goes on man.
Mid journey I think got a littlebit angry with.
Well, I'm I'm curious to see what, you know, what happens
with this S ref stuff. Actually show me something
there. Obviously interested with the
video, but I don't think we'll see anything for I don't think

(01:12:57):
we'll see anything for at least another month.
I wouldn't even think it's goingto be June if I had to take a
guess. But yeah, could be wrong.
We'll see. I'm saying August.
That's just my guess. I'll put it out there.
Yeah, I'll be. I'll be long on it.
Well, also look at what trips you have coming up.
Yeah, you probably get. A pretty good yeah.
The next conference is July. There you go.

(01:13:17):
It'll be done. You're.
Right, there you go. That's correct.
So all right, bro, dude, anything.
Anything else? Good, nothing else.
I'm I've got to do some more running.
I want to, I want to. I haven't really been able to
play with mid journey as much asI wanted to this week and got a
lot of hours burned. Maybe like if I actually do have
some free time too, I'll maybe just take requests and just run

(01:13:40):
a bunch of stuff. It's not a bad idea.
Or not a bad idea. Maybe we just unlock all the S
refs and then what we do is we take credit anytime anybody else
ever unlocks it. Shares it.
It's like, no, it's mine actually.
Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Who?
Cares never understood that. It's so weird to me.

(01:14:02):
Oh my God. It's like, alright, man.
Yeah, let's. You know, just so everyone who's
still here do all of this. You've already liked, You've
already subscribed, but tell someone else to or share it, or.
There you go. We're.
Going to have some guests comingup I think over the next couple
weeks as the summer probably slows down.
Mid journey updates are probablygoing to slow down for a little
bit. We're going to try to bring some

(01:14:22):
some interesting people on here.We've got a few conversations
teed up just so everyone is aware that they were probably
going to a little bit of a guestmodel every once in a while here
so that you guys don't have to listen to me and Drew running
the Homesteader prompts every once in a while at the end of
the end of a episode. But if there's anyone you guys
are interested in too, you thinkwould be a great guest or you
know you're interested to hear from, drop it in the comments.

(01:14:44):
Let us know. Always interested to talk to
people who are doing this stuff on a daily basis or just nerding
out like us. So that's my disclaimer for the
end of the episode. But well said.
Well said, man. Alright guys, thanks for joining
us. Thanks for sticking around.
We'll see you guys in the next one.
See ya.

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