Midjourney V7 Showed Up in Crocs and COOKED

Drew and Rory are back for their full Midjourney V7 breakdown. What starts as a casual catch-up spirals into 60 minutes of real strategy, subtle discoveries, prompt experimentation, and a surprisingly profound rant on image brightness. Also, yes, there’s an alien smoking a joint.From remix tricks to personalization secrets, from prompt inversion to tonal contrast, this one’s got gold buried in the chaos.Coverage:Midjourney V7 personalization techniquesCharacter consistency updatesRemix & tile shippedDraft mode impressionsHow to use “no” prompts like a wizardUsing the Explore page like a Pinterest board for freaksPs—If you’re still rating strawberries on V6, we’re not judging… but we are worried about you.⏱️🔥 Midjourney Fast Hour[00:00] Breathing room with Midjourney V7 – finally[01:48] Revisiting old prompts: cringe or still fire?[03:04] Stylize settings: what’s working now[06:09] Personalization isn’t optional anymore[07:08] Remix & tile are BACK[08:34] Remix strong vs subtle: what’s better?[09:04] Why style refs work better after remix[11:38] Character consistency timeline + visual proof[13:40] Why Midjourney’s slow drip strategy is good[15:12] Model overreactions and spoiled user syndrome[18:06] Object reference (Omni Ref) is being slept on[19:31] Midjourney for freelancers = sweatpants marketing[20:27] Scrappy creativity and custom 3D icons[22:31] Visual consistency across details (teeth, hair, necklaces)[23:08] Poor man’s Rory Flynn appears[24:09] Why BoltCam + Luma is ridiculously fun[26:34] Draft mode is quietly improving[28:38] Mood boards only work with personalization[30:03] “The work is mysterious” = prompt gold[31:13] New “rate this image” feature – does it help?[32:20] Creepy portraits and single-eye stunners[34:25] Album art experiments and inspiration[35:16] The Explore Page finally doesn’t suck[36:49] Remixing prompts from top creators[38:19] Prompt inversion: the power of “--no”[40:13] Composition unlocks from excluding objects[43:42] Image blending, style refs, and banger prompts[44:51] Tattoo realism and forgotten saves[46:57] Personalization tips and speculative theory[49:20] Just prompting “Midjourney…” for kicks[52:13] Midjourney is finally brighter (literally)[54:19] Brightness vs realism: what's changed in V7[56:55] Dynamic range: the secret sauce[59:47] Midjourney’s stylize slider[01:01:30] Nuzzle, tonal balance, and V7 token talk[01:03:43] Chill TF out—it’s an alpha for a reason

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
What's up everybody, mid journeyfast hours podcast, mid journey
V7 Part 2 edition. Now that we've actually had time
to like breathe and play with this thing.
So we're going to jump into thattoday.
In the meantime, Rory, what's happening on your end, dude?
It's. Cold it's wet sucks perfect for
mid journey, but like, you know,just like sit here and just

(00:23):
generate a will. But yeah man, it's been just
crazy. I've been like been like re
obsessed again. You know, it's like I dig back
through all of the old prompts and like, oh, let me see if this
one works. I like this is what I like when
these new models drop is that I wanna go back and I start going
back and finding like all the cool shit that I've done.
That's never been like, I know share and I'm just, I know, God,

(00:45):
I forgot I did this, you know, Then he starts to then you start
to look at the, you know, not not sentimentally, but like I'm
looking at all the like the content.
I'm like, Oh, I remember what I did for that piece of content or
that piece of content. Like that's why I was doing
this. You start to like think back a
little bit into that mindset. It's cool to dig back.
I've been. It is.
It's annoying though when you find stuff that you like that
you're like damn I never did anything with this or or I

(01:07):
remember that like it's annoying.
It's like tough to share it now it's like what am I do to share
like a version 5 image? Like who?
Cares, that's what I'm saying, yeah.
Then that, that part of it too is kind of the annoying part
because it's like, well, the quality has gotten better.
So like, would I actually share this now?
I don't know but. Yeah.
But it's it's interesting to like, even go back and look at
some of the stuff and how at that point I was like, this is

(01:28):
revolutionary. Like, looks like nothing I've
ever seen before. And now it's like, that's it
looks like crap to me. You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, like what else we can do?
And I'm like, that was that tookme.
I remember like trying to get tothat point of getting, you know,
the image to look like that and then like sharing it and being
like people being like what the and now it's standard practice.

(01:49):
Yeah, yeah, I know that man. That's that's exactly right.
But you know what, like I've always appreciated about you 2
and like certain people is like we, we dig deep, you know, like
we're not just generating images, but like, you know, what
I appreciate about you is like you'll go back and you'll you'll
play with all the features again, you know, you'll play
with the different parameters again, you know, and I just

(02:13):
don't think that's like very common for most people, right?
And like there are different reasons people use mid journey,
But I always appreciate that because, you know, there are all
these little incremental changesto that we don't get updated on.
And you only really uncover if you, if you do like kind of go
back to the drawing board and experiment when, when some of
these like major releases or models or things happen.

(02:37):
Yes, it's like kind of like the same thing really.
You just want to use it to its best ability without having to
like screw around a lot. So it's like, all right, let me
go test the parameters right away, see how they affect
everything because that that to me is just like, that'll tell me
like can I use Stylize 800? Like remember when it was like
Stylized would get you to a certain point and it was like,
all right, it wasn't that crazy,but it was good.

(02:59):
I think it was maybe V5 or V6 when it like went to Stylize
1000 and it was just outrageous.Yeah, can't go up that.
High and then like when personalization drops right like
that for at least for the first couple weeks or that like
initial launch too is like, oh, you want to run this all the way
up you know like to get like further away from the default
and more on the side of your personalization, but like I'm

(03:21):
not I'll I'll run tests on like I'm running a lot of tests like
on stylize 1000, but I'm findingI'm getting the best results
around like 200. You know, like one 5200 right
now you. Know back down again.
Yeah, me too. Like I was, I was, I was
creeping up to like 3 as my default.
You know, there was 6/1 really kind of found a sweet spot

(03:43):
there. That's just sort of where I
landed. But yeah, I'm like dialing it
back down now, like even 152 pretty solid, like pretty solid
results. Yeah, I've been I mean, I was
getting up into 7800 consistently on the last model,
just like trying to push it for certain things.
And now, now it's a come back toreality. 300 seems like a good

(04:03):
sweet spot. 203 hundred again, like it back where it was and
now it's like all right. It seems like the sweet, like
that's where it doesn't, it doesn't like overcompensate.
It just kind of like adds its stylization and then like,
doesn't go too far. And and stylization now, at
least where we're at today, doesn't feel like the
stylization 1000 from models agoeither, right?

(04:25):
Like used to just, it used to just go so far.
And you're just like, oh, OK. Well, if I'm trying to achieve
photorealism, yeah, there you go, the flowers.
But if I'm trying to treat photorealism, it's like, oh, it
starts to look way too much likeAI.
And I remember we used to talk about how it used to get closer
and closer. The face used to get closer and
closer the the more you dialed up to stylize too.
Yeah. And it made sense.

(04:45):
I mean, like, that was that was its way of putting more detail
in. Like, you know, the less
background it has to generate, the more it focuses on the face.
But it was like, yeah, I remember that flower phase.
And it was like, I don't want flowers.
Yeah, everything. Just throw it in there man.
No flowers, no plants, no anything.
And it would just be like, here's your flowers.

(05:06):
Bro, absolutely, absolutely. Actually, you know what, now I'm
thinking about it, you know, that whole human bouquet series
that I got with the people walking, I think the very first
one I ran had flowers in it, which like was like sort of like
the spark of the idea. Like I didn't prompt for flowers

(05:26):
at all. But that was, if I remember
Craig, like the first one I everdid was was around that.
Using the tool to the like, that's just the artist
paintbrush right there. Using the tools disadvantages as
an advantage, right? Like that's what people do well
with Sora. Like you just take Sora's like
Morphe, weird glitchy nature andif you could make it cool and

(05:49):
that's like the intention going in, then it's going to look
great, you know? Yeah, I think everyone needs to
do that a little bit more. You know, like whatever the
tools, strengths and weaknesses are, if it has a weakness, like
if there's a way to make it cool, you can do that A. 100%
it's got to lean into it. Yeah, there's been, there's
always been ways to do that withmid journey, right.
Like, you know, it's like. Probably 1 of the better, yeah.

(06:10):
Like it's one of the better tools for like leaning into
those little nuances too. With with V7 though, let's talk
like, I mean we're going to talkabout a few things, right?
Like maybe we can get back into personalization and ranking.
They're just a few things that Ithink, you know, we can talk
through there that are interesting ways that you could
approach that with personalization being even more
important now, I think you couldmake that argument.

(06:33):
You know, we got an update on some new features that have just
been put back in for V7. We've talked, you know, we've
got a lot more insight into takeaways that we've learned
since last week. And yeah, man, let's just get
into it. Like so you know, we talked
about what was released with V7,We talked about, I think we

(06:59):
touched on this last time, but Mid Journey is going to start to
slowly drip new things each week, every other week.
They've they've kind of laid that out.
The first thing we got was remixand tile back in the fold.
You're a remix OG. It's like probably one of your
favorite features, if not your favorite.
So I know you're excited about that.

(07:20):
Any insights there so far? Remix is like I, I, I think I
have like a six month hiatus where I like forgot about it.
And that was, that was last yearat some point.
And then I was like, you know what?
Once style reference came back into the mix, I was like, oh,
OK, 'cause I, I really like it. If anyone's not playing around
with it, because sometimes when you use style reference or style

(07:41):
codes or, you know, mood boards or whatever, anything that's
going to influence the construction of the image, like
you can do too much. Like I sometimes I just want to
like control the prompt itself and control the output.
And then with remix then I'll add the style reference or a
style code or a mood board because it takes sort of like
that basic image construction and then like adds on top of it

(08:03):
instead of like morphing the entire image around like for
style. For style codes I think it
works. Great.
Yeah, I don't, I don't use Remixenough personally.
Yeah, but it's great. Well, remix, remix subtle
doesn't really do anything for me.
I'm always remixing strong. And you know, oftentimes if I
like, if I like something or I'mgoing for something a little bit
more extreme, like remix strong and like you don't have to, I've

(08:25):
said this before on the podcast,you don't have to change
anything. Just hit it again.
It's like a, it's like a better very.
It's like a, It's like a mixturebetween very subtle and very
strong, you know what I mean? Which kind of feels nice to have
another option there because, you know, now, now subtle has
gotten so subtle. Yeah, overly subtle maybe,
maybe. But also I was just thinking
about that in terms of like the C ref function, like man, what

(08:48):
if you get to this point where it's just like you press the
button, you know, like a very subtle and it takes that
character within it and just boom, right.
Like you could just create subtle variations with that
character or strong variations with that character, You know,
just like as a button versus like plugging that in and typing
it out and dragging it in. You know, there, there feels

(09:10):
like there should be a maybe a smarter, more efficient way to
accomplish that. But that would be fun, man, like
because half the half the pain with doing like stuff like S
refs and image refs and C refs, it's just that you got to take
the extra time and effort to like plug all that stuff in,
think about the weights, you know?
But I think like if we get to a point where that's like just a
quick little option, that would be a lot of fun.

(09:32):
I like that. I like that actually, let me let
me actually pull this up so people can see what I'm talking
about in the let me just I have it.
I just realized I have it on Figma.
I was like, all right, So what Imean by like, like doing the
remix is like I start with like an image like this where I'm
like, all right, cool. Like that's what I was looking

(09:53):
for. But like, how can I like take
that sort of image construction?See, like the image construction
is like very similar on everything here.
And it's just basically, hey, remix strong.
Then I'll put an SRF in, I'm hitting, you know, putting an
SRF code or I'm putting in a different image that looks
nothing like I put like a like aJapanese movie poster, but it

(10:13):
was like a very fuzzy texture. Like it was very, it was like a
cartoon or like an animatic, something like that, you know,
comes out a little bit different.
I put in something that's got a little bit more art to it.
So you just like bleed a little bit of it in there.
And sometimes you can come out with some really cool stuff,
which I was like totally down with, right?
So to me, I want to control this, right?
Like I like to control the composition, like the way that

(10:36):
everything looks and then I'll go and remix and sort of play
with it to see where I want to go with it.
Now that's just for fun. That's not like if I'm going for
a project or anything, you know,this is if I want to just go
like visually pop because I think you're, you're pretty damn
good at like you don't just stopat the like the output as it is
and say like, that's good. I feel like you're curious with

(10:57):
just about everything that you like.
Like very subtle, very strong edit, expand, keep going like,
you know, use that as a style reference in another image.
That's the you know, that's why it's been just remix, just like.
Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it like that.
And again, I love the idea that like you mentioned, remix can be

(11:18):
like this alternative, you know,less known option to run
variations of your image. Like just kind of like what we
did with that describe thing, right when we were talking about
the suggested prompt as a way toto describe, you know, and it
was sort of like a different model.
And it's like, oh, this is kind of interesting.
But yeah, man, like, so we've got, you know, got remix and

(11:39):
tile back. I don't know what's what's next.
But I do know that they did provide a, you know, an update
on the character reference. So character consistency, which
a little bit of a loose time frame, not surprised, but
somewhere between one to four weeks.
So, you know, maybe safe to assume like 2 to 3, maybe a

(12:01):
three. I do feel like like gut feel
they're holding on to that because they want it to be as
good as possible. I think they realize that that's
a really good opportunity for them to nail.
Is that kind of what you're thinking too?
I think they should wait like again, I'm like satisfied, you
know, like remember when we weregetting like pissed at V7 and

(12:22):
they draw boot boards and I'm like, OK, I'm satisfied again.
I have something to play with, right?
It's like I'm good right now, You know, I don't, I don't
necessarily need it. I want it.
It's going to come. I know it's coming.
I I'd rather have them work on it and make it good and not like
turn everybody off like from it right away.

(12:42):
So I I'd really just, I really want that one to be nailed
because. I'm with you on that one.
I that feels like a critical 1 you got a nail first impression
on because if you can get some virality on that too of just
people just going nuts with how good that is, you can.
See it though, you can see the architecture happening like I
was running. I think you can, yeah.

(13:03):
I was running character sheets and the character is translating
from image to image so much moreintricately than it would have
in the past. Put you on the spot here, put
you on the spot here. But do you have a, do you have
any visual examples you can showon that?
I'm just curious. And while you're doing that, you
know, so, so going back to that,that point which you just
mentioned, which is let's nail it.

(13:26):
They fed us right? Like they fed us with a new
model. There's a lot to explore here,
guys, right? Like so the initial reaction
was, oh, like this wasn't as bigof a leap as we wanted a blah
blah blah, OK. But remember, this is the alpha
version. This is not the full model
rolled out yet, number one. Number two, there are
incremental improvements that will change along the way.

(13:48):
There always has been. It's gotten better and better
and better. There's refinements that take
place. It's a little bit different #3
Mid Journey is not VC funded. Again, it cannot move as quick
as some of these other companies.
That's just the reality. You have to accept it.
And then, you know, I think likethe other, the other interesting
point that we talk about a lot too, is like the building of

(14:10):
knowledge within the model. And so if we would have gotten
consistent characters when we got the regular model or V7 in
general, I, I just, I don't know, people would have been
taking even longer to understandfully how this model works and
to experiment with it and all those things.

(14:30):
It's easier to digest when we get hey, we've got this.
OK, now in two weeks we're goingto get this right.
Because by them we'll already kind of know.
Yeah, maybe the different coherence, we'll have a better
feel for it. We'll have a better feel for the
kind of images that we like generating in here.
Stylize, you know, all those different variables that take
place. So say all that to say, like,

(14:52):
let's cool it on that. You know, we, we both talked
about it last time, but you know, I think we both even put
out tweets about it. But it's just like, hey, look
like you're, you're rushing to judgement if you're making a
strong statement on this 48 hours in, like it's just there's
no way that you've run enough variables here and have a long
term understanding of what the model is going to deliver at
this point. Yeah, and you know, mid journey

(15:13):
is a is a basically a victim of their own success there.
I think where they've made it soeasy to create that when
something comes out and it wasn't that easy right away,
like it wasn't like immediately like bang, like perfect visuals
that everyone has like that sortof short term memory where it's
like, well, you know, might needto be a little bit patient or

(15:36):
figure this thing out again, because it's a whole new
infrastructure. And as we know, they think they
know how it works. But like, you know, there's a
lot. There's a million other people
that are creating that figure this stuff out before they do to
write it to like operationalize it.
Not a knock against mid journey there just like do what you have
to do it. You know, their their job isn't
to teach us how to do it, you know, and how to how to beat

(15:56):
artists. Like you'll find people that
just do creative things with it all the time.
So yeah, I think there's they there was definitely an
overreaction to like, you know, we all we all want, you know, to
dunk on something. I.
Guess I think so we've gotten spoiled, right?
Like there's just the now the technology again, like if we
were to rewind a year ago, year and a half ago and just thinking

(16:20):
about these things and like still in this newness of like
adapting to the pace of which they can't these things come and
then what's possible and then thinking ahead of what's going
to be possible in the next 612 months.
Like I feel like we've started to desensitize ourselves here,
right, because we are getting spoiled with all these different
tools, all these different releases.

(16:40):
We're just kind of becoming likelittle spoiled brats, you know,
So we're. Feeding the addiction it's.
Common guys like everything's everything is coming.
Just got to be patient sometimesI'm I'm talking to myself here
too, but. You know, if they nail
character, if they nail Omni reference, whatever they're
calling it, character reference,Omni reference.

(17:00):
I don't think anyone minds whatever else the limitations
are because I personally don't haven't seen many like I've
been. I've been pretty.
I understood what happened on the you know, it feels like this
is an observation. It feels like the base model V7
is like like an older like. Reminds me of how Stable
Diffusion was, where it's just like a base model that's meant

(17:22):
to be built off of and customized off of.
Interesting. So it's like all the
personalization that comes out of that.
So really like everything has been, you know, they, they
focused on, you know, making personalization standard for
version 7, which means, you know, go in there and rank some
photos. We'll get into that stuff in a
little bit. But like realistically that's,
that makes a difference. 1st 200images I rated my images

(17:44):
immediately got better, hands got better, appendages got
better, like colors, like composition, all of it got
better immediately. And the the more I keep ranking,
the better my stuff keeps looking.
So I think you know, if anyone hasn't done it or you don't like
it or you know you haven't done it for V7 yet, just like give it

(18:05):
200 images and see what the difference.
Yeah, yeah. And we'll, I think we'll like
we'll get into that too. 11 lastpoint while you're pulling that
up is we are kind of overlookingthe Omni reference part of this
equation. Character consistency is big,
but how about the? Can we talk about the object

(18:27):
reference I mean? Dude if it works like.
That's going to be yeah. But I mean, like the ability to
do that, what like that's going to that's getting tossed into
this idea of Omni reference, right?
But like, let's not sleep on that too.
Like that's going to be that's going to unlock a whole
different sort of mode of thinking as well.

(18:47):
So anyway, just. Compete with chat JPT in that
sense, you know I think that's where they it could be right now
with that stuff. It's just like, oh, I can put my
product in there. I think a lot of people want to
use, you know, this is, it's so weird 'cause it's like the
attorney doesn't want people to use it for business.
And we're all like we want to use it for business.
That's what that's what I'm saying like that always confused

(19:09):
me and I get it like you're not VC funded, like you're kind of
like anti corporate world. You know, we're doing this
ourselves as my idea and vision.But you know, the reality is
you've got a lot of creative people here that aren't working
for themselves too or have clients that need it for that.
So yeah, you you kind of have to, you know?

(19:31):
Like a lot of freelancers, a lotof you know, scrappy marketers,
like, you know, I consider that myself.
Like a lot of it's not just like, you know, we're not
working at some major 15,000 person agency and we want to use
mid journey for like, you know, the tide commercial that I'm
doing OK. You know, it's, I think there's
like a, there's probably like anassumption just like that's

(19:52):
where your head goes. But it's like in reality it's me
and my sweatpants. Just like trying to create cool
stuff for my clients, right? OK, so that just reminds.
Me of like the 3D custom icons right, like if you don't have
somebody on your team that's a designer, guess what that's not
a possibility for you right now.It is that's cool, right?

(20:16):
Like those things are so cool, you know, so like from that
scrappy marketer's mindset to beto be frank, because that's like
I, I want to execute on ideas and if there's as little process
or roadblocks or red tape as possible, like it's fun to be
able to just go in and do those things, you know, it's just.
Yeah, I'm totally with you on that 'cause that was like such a

(20:36):
simple 1, you didn't even think about it.
And then like, you know, you've been in the trenches with that
stuff, so you're just like, Oh yeah, icons for like, you know,
branding and custom things like that.
It's like just just works. And it's so and it's so simple.
Like it's not, it's not hard like that.
It's not hard. Five years ago.
Yep. Three years ago that'd be really
hard, you know, spend that much time on it too.

(20:57):
Now it's 5 minutes. So let me pull this thing up.
There's a few, there's a few things I'll go to the actual
character sheets though first, which I was super impressed
with. There's no upscaling on this
outside of outside of mid journeys upscaler.
OK, so just to be just to be clear, you generated these

(21:19):
images as a character sheet in one.
These aren't 4 separate images put together, correct?
Nope, these are all these are all one shot.
So you know, it's giving the theteeth are consistent, which is
interesting, right? Like the teeth are they're not
perfect. And then here you can see
there's still you know, that's sort of consistent.
The hair is fairly consistent. Her sweatshirt, her necklace

(21:41):
here, I believe. Yep, her necklace is consistent.
So like things like that where I'm like, OK, that's, that's,
that's new. Like even these little sort of
twists in her hair up at the tophere, you can start to see
that's consistent across every image, right?
So. What was your prompt for that?
Like I'm curious with when it comes to the hair right 'cause?

(22:02):
There's braided hair. I decided I did braided hair
because it doesn't. It doesn't give you anything
cool like that unless you ask. Right, right.
But also like I'm just asking because of the the leap that it
takes to to kind of like assume that these are all like to act
like this is character consistency in the 1st place,
right? Like I didn't know if you were

(22:23):
more generic or not and what that gap looked like for them to
close it but. Let's see.
Let's see what the actual promptwas.
It should be acid wash. And we're going to have to come
back to those Kim Jong Un ones. Too we will, oh we will.
So this one we have character sheets split into four photos
from multiple angles. 30 year old black girl smiling with so.

(22:43):
Only long braided. Only long braided hair.
Beautiful skin, trendy acid washhoodie and that's it.
Nailed all that. And same with acid acid wash
hoodie. Yeah, because that's fairly
consistent too, from shot to shot.
Yeah. So I was, I was pretty impressed
with that. This one was just a, a simple
one like a guy. This is the first one I ran

(23:04):
where I was like, all right, let's just see if we can get
this guy with the, you know, with the bucket hat and the
white sunglasses. This guy looks like a poor man's
Rory Flynn. That's right, like a real like
this guy looks like he's been partying a lot.
Yeah, and like he, he's rebounding from an addiction.
Like this guy, probably some, but this one was the one I was
the most impressed with when, you know, run this all in one

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shot. But like you see the thing, the
thing here that's the most impressive to me is this like
you can't see it because it's super close, but this necklace
how it's kind of mangled and jumbled up, right?
It's kind of the exact same here.
You know what I mean? Like that's that's something
that it wouldn't have got. Even these earrings.
They're like the same sort of they're probably not exact one

(23:46):
for one, but they're close. The sunglasses are close one to
one. Her hairstyle is pretty close
one to one and like you know, even just the the textures of
the shirt of her. Leggings.
The leggings, yeah. Right.
So like I was like, OK, this is this is advancing in that sense
because I I'm like impressed. And that's if anyone hasn't, if

(24:10):
anyone hasn't seen it, I did a little thing with this on bolt
Cam with Luma and it's sick. Like it's not not Tooting my own
horn, like just bolt Cam in general and Luma is sick like
that. It works.
It's so much fun. Like I can't stop playing with
it. I'm just like, I'm wasting all
of my luma credits on playing with bolt Cam.
But that's a that's a fun one. So then again, I took that

(24:30):
prompt. This is for, you know, because I
wanted to ChatGPT stuff. So we put a little Kim Jong Un
in there. Same prompt works in ChatGPT and
just, you know, gave him a little bit of a, gave him a
little bit of a swagger. Love it.
That's so funny, man. I, I love when I love when they
have like a little bit of a personality, the image
generators. So that one's just so goofy.

(24:53):
I love it, man. I love it.
Yeah. So, you know, rap put a bow on
that, right? Like character consistency
coming, maybe some incremental improvements that we're seeing
along the way. Don't sleep on.
Don't sleep on. The bigger picture of this also
includes objects. Let's not forget about that so.
And draft mode's been able to get relatively close with like

(25:14):
when, you know, when you're in draft mode and you're working
off of 1 image instead of, you know, it's like use this exact
person. Like it's relatively close for
what it what it is. You know, Remix to me has never
really done that or been that close in that regard.
But dude, it's just better. Like it's another way to say it.
It's like that's better than what I was getting before.

(25:36):
The the other thing too, like Speaking of draft mode has
gotten better since it launched.I was getting very washed out,
bland images before and I did rank images too at that point.
So I don't think that was just lack of personalization from
that sense. So it looks like there's like
been some incremental stuff that's changed there.
The quality that you get out of the gate is better has improved.

(26:01):
Also, you know, they did mentionthey're they're making a change.
I don't know if it's already happened or it's supposed to be
coming here shortly around enhance and just making that
slightly better or or improved in some some way as well.
But I think that's still like anarea I want to keep playing with
some more. It's just like a entire entirely
different way to prompt right. So, you know, it's kind of like

(26:24):
being purposeful and intentionalabout like using it and trying
it. So I would recommend everybody
use that. Again, just to reiterate, you
can use voice to guide that, which is super, super
interesting. But I think it's fun, man.
I think it's, it's, it's really a cool opportunity to be able to

(26:44):
develop something with voice. It, it feels, it feels like a
natural progression, you know? And it's just, you know, it's
nice. It's nice to have it on the
phone too, because I've been using it on the phone, which is
great. Just like instead of it.
Just that's what I need to do. I need to use it on the phone.
I haven't used it on the phone yet, but I've seen the button I
should. That was my biggest gripe.

(27:06):
I'm like people always like, canit be on mobile?
I'm like, why do you like what are you typing on mobile that
that would take less than like 2minutes to write a whole prompt
out like you know what I mean? Do if you want like a decent
like a little bit of detail on your prompt and you're just like
typing to the the two fingers that feels like it takes forever
it much. It does and then you forget it.
If you misspell something or if you don't put a space, yeah, in

(27:29):
your parameters or some shit like that, you're screwed.
You know, it's like, dude, this is brutal.
But yeah, man. I mean, maybe a couple things
too that I, that I've heard, I, I, I haven't played a ton with
that are still kind of like lagging or broken at this point.
Retexture and mood boards, I've heard right aren't getting great

(27:52):
results at the moment. Play with that for yourselves.
But you know, again, I think that's going to be part of this
drip like things take time to torelease and build on top of this
model. Mood board's been working better
with my P code so. Has it?
The more I have personalization on, plus the mood board sends it
work. Better.
Are you doing anything differently than you would have

(28:13):
with Six One with mood boards? Like in terms of the prompting,
stylization, anything like that?No, just like I, I noticed off
the gate, right out the gate when I didn't have
personalization on AV 7 and was using the, the mood boards.
It was like all kind of jacked up and like it feels like, you
know, your profile code is like the, the bridge, like the bridge
and the gap there. So that that just a random

(28:35):
observation. I have no proof of it, just
feels like that's what's been. Working.
By the way, if you are using mobile, double check your
default settings. Yeah, I, I was running, I ran a
bunch of things, didn't look at my phone.
Then I went back into the, the pictures.
I'm like, dude, these are what are these?
And sure enough, like I came to the conclusion that my
personalization wasn't on, but Iwent into the settings and

(28:55):
there's no easy way to turn it on in the settings in mobile.
And I was like, yo, what? So I had to like, you know,
dash, dash P, you know, but thenlike, I couldn't figure out how
to like use a different one. Maybe it's maybe it's possible.
I didn't look super, super hard,but like got to get that, got to
get that going. Got to get that going.
Especially with personalization being the thing, but I want to

(29:17):
you know what there's like one other thing.
We're so you and I did like a 30minute X spaces yesterday, which
was fun, man. We did like in the middle of the
day, there were a handful of people that joined us.
We were just talking BS and about some stuff.
But you know, we, you and I havebeen talking too about they're
just random stuff like observations we had.

(29:39):
There was something really cool with the the work is mysterious.
You know, Rory, throughout this the work is mysterious.
Give it a shot. It's fun.
And I was like, OK, I'm in. And I started running some
prompts and like started gettinglike some really cool stuff.
It's amazing. Like this, I was obsessed with
this one. So I like went down this whole

(30:01):
rabbit hole with like this, likesomebody just carrying like this
box or there's like a random goat and there's like this,
these bags of something and like, it's just like, yo, what
is this? But it's dope.
Like I just can't, I couldn't get away from it for like an
hour yesterday. I was like, yeah, this is so
fun. There's a lamb in one of yours,
or a sheep in one of them too. There was, there was.

(30:22):
Where was that at? Oh.
Here I think it was kind of. It's like a horse.
No, not this one. Back up the one with the hold
on. Wait, are you talking about like
the original 1 I showed like here?
That one there, right there. Yeah, they severance man, it's
great for. Well, then once I started
running the different episode titles with the Work is
Mysterious and Important, I was like, this is, you know, there's

(30:44):
some really funky stuff. That's right.
I don't know if we said that, but it is from Severance.
The work is mysterious. And so you were running that and
I thought that was, that was hilarious 'cause I was just
getting some really like cool, fun results while we're here.
By the way, this has changed in the last couple days.
Help us improve V7. I like this image.
Don't like it. I'm neutral.
So you can actually start to do this on any of your images.

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I don't know that this does anything for your
personalization, but it does help mid journey.
I would maybe we need to get some more clarity on that.
It would be nice to understand. Does this affect my preferences
in any way or is this purely from a mid journey training
model perspective? One sided, but I thought that

(31:30):
was interesting too. Yeah, I think it.
Have you noticed your your personalization code changes
very quickly now verse. Well, is it because you're
ranking more images though? It is but also like it changed.
It changed when I ran like my one personalization code.
Then I did another one and I ranked maybe 10 images and then
my global changed and I was like, oh, OK, so it's all kind

(31:54):
of taking into account here, which I was, I was pretty, I
don't know if I hit like a threshold as to like, oh, it
needs to change now. But I, I just thought it, I
think it might be a little bit more sensitive to change now at
this point. Is this is?
This still the work or is this now we're?
Into the no, this is a. There's some other stuff here
too, the one kind of cool. That is cool.

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There was another one in here like obviously running, running
some of the nun stuff, Nunya, the Mongolian Archers was was
kind of neat. I don't know, like this isn't
typically my style, but there was something about this like
Tower of Babylon kind of vibe tothis.

(32:41):
All right, and then you start seeing these like Angel wings up
here. I'm like, yo, this is kind of
dope all. Right get the fallen angels
coming in little but. You know, I've been, dude, I've
been going hard on the ports of,but pretty much kind of using
the same kind of like base template prompt here, but
getting like some really good faces.

(33:04):
And yeah, like I got one with man, I got like a crazy one with
this one eye. That's just wicked.
It is. Did you prompt for that?
I didn't prompt for that, you know, and it wasn't.
And I was thinking, OK, like I've seen it before because I've
run enough like sort of like weird portraits to see like with

(33:26):
this kind of style of like core template of prompt.
But it happened again here like not too far after.
And I was like, yeah, it's so. Creepy.
It's creepy as hell, but it's like you just need like that one
or two elements within an image to make it special sometimes.
And it's like, OK, it's totally different.

(33:46):
Mustache man, I like that too. Big hand the.
Where is he at this guy? There we go, this guy.
I could I trust that guy? You do. 100%.
I'm not sure if I trust that guy.
That guy definitely drinks whiskey though.
That's why I trust him. Fair, fair enough.
I'm trying to think if there's like anything else in here

(34:08):
there, you know, there's a, there's a band that asked me to
do some like art for their album.
Sick. And so I was starting to like
kind of play around with a few like raw ideas.
And I just, I don't know, there was something about the vibe of
these that I was like really kind of digging as places to
start, you know, like based on the information I got from them.

(34:30):
So yeah, I mean, like, dude, I'm, I'm having fun, like having
a good time still figuring out the model.
You know, these are just all kind of like fun things I've
been doing. Again, I probably would be
running even more had I have some one fast hour left, but I
have none and I have a whole week to wait so that.
Is a long time there we go that's certainly a long time I I

(34:52):
was lucky my my yearly subscription renewed yesterday
so. Was the price the same for what
you paid last year? Pretty much I think, I think it
was still the same like $9096 orsomething like that or whatever
it was for the month. But you know, we are, we are in.

(35:13):
Oh, that was the one thing I wanted to, I wanted to show you
how we definitely have to talk about this.
How? How much better has the explore
page gotten? Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome, right.Like the baseline quality across
the board is so obvious, right. And then also the the good

(35:36):
interpretations of like the variants of images, like you're
seeing images you haven't seen before in mid journey, which is
always cool, right? And you and I were joking about
this yesterday, but it's it's it's good to see no stock images
in here and it's good to see no coloring book images in here.
If you know, you know, you know.There's a lot and it was like

(35:59):
and I've I've actually been pulling prompts from there,
which I never have really before.
Like typically I'd have to. I just found it through the
smart search like you've done most of the time, but I never
really get like that interested by the stuff that's on the
explorer, the hot page. But the last five days is every
time I open it, I'm like banger,banger, banger like this one.

(36:20):
I'll show you the try to pull this one up.
Took this one and I was like, this is I think it was the top
day yesterday. Where is it?
It's like. Yeah, I saw that one.
Yeah. And.
I was like, oh, that's fun. I want to play with that one.
The other one was this, this alien sort of concept that this
someone had put up there. I don't know if I have the S ref

(36:42):
in here, but it was let's see ifI can find it.
And now we're now we're into thethe work is mysterious.
Work is mysterious. Baby, I get.
I get of course some dart and I.Didn't and and you know what?
Like I didn't even go far enoughinto the work as mysterious to
run it with S ref codes, yeah, like, or even S refs in general

(37:04):
like. It it gets fun, it gets fun
quick 'cause you know you get weird funky things like this
isn't even an S ref code. But I was just digging the vibe
right? Like sort of feels like
Severance in that sense. The where is this alien one that
I was looking at though? Oh, here it is.
Because this, these were just hilarious and like someone put

(37:26):
this up and I was like, this is cool.
Yeah, yeah. Something I never prompt for.
And I was like, oh, it's fun. It's an alien smoking a joint.
And then I was like, all right, what's happens if I change the
alien to Snoop Dogg? Then I'm playing with like
getting Snoop Dogg and that thattype of that type of aesthetic.
So. Like ethereal ghostly vibe.

(37:46):
This is interesting what I saw here though, which I haven't I
haven't seen much of there is look at this negative prompt
here. Hold on, it didn't it didn't
show up in the parameter. Let me just add this again
prompt. Where is it?
Sorry. So we have no chaos, humans,
gems, flowers, diodes, typography, text, logos,

(38:08):
watermarks, close up galleries as a ton of no's in there, which
I think works. I think if you want to go that
route too, that's something to consider with, like if you're
finding things that are going. Up Well, let me take that.
Let me take that one step further too, because what if,
and I don't know if Noah has gotten better, right?

(38:28):
But like you're, it used to be like hit or miss.
I do think it's gotten incrementally better, but I
don't know how. I actually haven't tested it too
much on V7 yet. But hypothetically, what if you
spent just as much time on the nose as the positive part of the
prompt? Because you could start to rule
out things that you absolutely did not want and kind of put you

(38:51):
in a different creative corner of what your results are going
to get back. I it's worth testing?
It's worth testing Organism. This was like one of the prompts
I used to run for to get crazy results.
I don't know if it happens anymore but we'll see.
Like this was like bio. Biological anomaly.

(39:19):
Let's see. Let's see if that comes up as as
anything as anything crazy here.Yeah.
I do have the SRAF on, but I'm curious with all the no's as to
how it comes out. All right, so we're getting some
funky stuff, which is what I because it has all the like, no
humans, no. No that which.
I like as like I might steal that because this is actually

(39:41):
comes out pretty damn cool. Right.
Like and and this is maybe like a reframe worth testing because
if you have trouble thinking of things that you want, maybe it's
also just thinking of things that you don't want.
Exactly. I think that's AI think it's.
Like inversion, you know, think like invert the problem here.
If you're feeling lack of creative inspiration or you just

(40:04):
want to like really put some tension and.
You know, constraint on the tool.
Why not? I I don't know why.
I mean like I've used no before,but I haven't used it to that.
I haven't either. Like I see like this is just
it's, it's just like one of these thoughts that like if we
talk long enough, it's just it comes up and it's just like, oh,

(40:25):
it's an interesting way to look at it.
Damn, I love, I love the, I lovethat composition in that first
one in the fall off and everything.
Yeah, like this is where, this is where, you know, look at
this. This is.
Great. Look at the texture though,
Yeah, you know. Like this is awesome, Like I'm
going to use this now as a, you know, probably I'm probably

(40:46):
going to play a lot more with this because you can just simple
add this now, which is great. It's not no like each one
individually. It's just like no click and then
it all comes up, which is great.So you can always go back and
like pull that up because that'sthat to me is like a somewhat of
an unlock there. I.
I think so. Found that interesting and I was
like, this is cool. Now here we go.

(41:07):
Here's a mood board. Great.
Done, you know. Like yeah, yeah.
And, and, and maybe it's a let'slet's think about that for a
second, right. Well, yeah, I mean, it's, it's
definitely could be a mood board.
I was just trying to think of like the intricacies went in and
I don't think there's anything like really inspiring by that
other than the sense of like, yeah, you could already use that

(41:29):
as a style reference, generate more.
I don't know that you need the no unless there were just
certain things you absolutely didn't want.
But then again, you could achieve that through the style
code or the style reference to with the addition of the the
positive part of the prompt. So maybe, maybe not, but.

(41:49):
It's just. The inversion, the inversion of
using the no parameter as a whole though is a is a huge, I
think just unlock. I've never heard anybody talk
about that. I think we just kind of like
backed into here, but. Because that's why.
And if anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about here, like the
if you're, yeah, look at that. That image at the top there,
that's fun. Like even that, that rabbit,

(42:10):
yeah, it's. Yeah, it's been it's been
awesome like I've just been enjoying this is hot or the top
day, right? Like all this stuff has been to
me pretty good. Now, of course, doesn't want to
load while we're while we're on here.
But yeah, you see, you're seeingthings that you didn't see
before. Like this one.
This is cool. This catches my eye 'cause I'm
not used to that kind of composition.

(42:32):
Plus like photorealism plus, youknow, live action type of look.
You know, these I've been looking and I'm just like great.
Like this one catches my eye. Like I want to play with a lot
of this stuff. Like this is cool.
I want to play with this stuff like.
There's still a lot of. There's still so much value in
not only just scrolling the explore page for high level

(42:54):
inspiration and creative ideas, but like you mentioned it, this
is a perfect example. Just leave it here for a second.
They've got three style references, right, of images,
not codes images, you know, So like even that I'll see some
things from time to time. And I'm like, man, they got like
I've, I've seen people with like8 to 10 that are like image

(43:16):
style references mixed together with some sort of like crazy
prompt, random prompt. And it's like bangers, you know?
And, and like, same thing with image blending.
We forget about that too. But like, there's still so many
cool things that can be accomplished from the image
blending standpoint. Taking 2 raw ideas, mashing them
together either with a minimal prompt, no prompt, or a very

(43:40):
specific prompt. There was let me see if I have
likes. I have one or two here.
This one was the one I was talking about where it was like
I just so dope. Love that texture.
Love the different textures on this, especially for that sort
of three. Yeah.
And I was like, this is, you know what this look that looks
like if if you look just right in the center where it draws
your eye and in the periphery, it looks like a, it looks like a

(44:02):
Netflix show. It does.
Like the red, the red being there, like you could instantly
see that being like a kids Netflix show.
I'm like damn. Totally.
I was. I was loving that one.
This one caught my eye for whatever reason.
I just like the color, the colorscheme behind like that that.
Purple, blue, Orange. Yeah, it's just like this one.
I don't know why this one caughtmy eye too.
I saved it 'cause I was just like, it's so simple and clean,

(44:24):
but it's like very clean. I saw I saw one with AII didn't
save it, but there was I saw it might have been on the explore
page. It was a tattoo.
It was like that paper airplane tattoo, but it looks so good.
It looked like it was like literally from the pit, like a
Pinterest page, you know, And itup until this point, like you
didn't get tattoos that looked like really tattooed into the

(44:48):
skin. I guess, for lack of a better
explanation. It just kind of looked like a
little bit of an overlay. This one is like yo sounds wild.
This one, I don't know why I like it, but I like it.
It's just it's very, to me, it feels very clean and satisfying
for some reason like these. This is stuff that I would never
find on here. I, I would like a better way to

(45:09):
sort through the things that you've liked though, because
there have been so many really good images that I've liked
historically because I, I treat it like a, like a, like a
Pinterest pin board or Instagramsave or whatever it is X
bookmark. And you know, it's just that
linear scroll and you just, you only can go back so far before

(45:31):
it. You get exhausted and just all
those other ones just die, die on the vine.
You're just like, because they've got really great
inspiration for ideas. And I always save things too,
where I'm like, I may run into this in the future.
I don't create images like, but if I have something like this, I
want to have this. And then you just forget about
it. Totally.
And I think it's like, it's really fun to look at how people

(45:51):
are prompting because everythingis different.
It's not. There's not one structure,
there's not one way that anyone's doing it.
It's all varied like I'm sure this one is yeah like this one's
super long when we just look that was super short like I'm
just like curious to see how people are.
You can also start to get a feelfor like this version too as to
what's working by what's on here'cause you'll start to see what

(46:13):
people are doing from like a architecture standpoint of their
prompts. Like this one got really good
output from not that much, you know like if that that's
probably different than this. Maybe not that was wrong.
I figured that would be more more extensive one, but you
know, some of the stuff you see and I'm just like this is this
is the and the other thing that we might that I would I would

(46:34):
definitely have noticed. I don't know if you've noticed
this is that like personalization is so much
easier because the images are better.
It's not like I sit there and like, I don't like this.
I don't like skip, skip, skip, skip, skip this one.
I'm like every other image. I'm like, Oh, that's I like
that. I like that.
I like that because V6 it was itwas rough.
I'm like, do I like this stock photo of a strawberry or a stock

(46:57):
photo of a strawberry? You know, like, I don't know.
You know what? OK, so they I think this is like
one of the other points that we were talking about briefly
yesterday on spaces. But you know that that whole
personalization thing, we did touch on this a little bit last
week, but it's fascinating because we still there's no
black and white road map. This is exactly how you should
personalize, right? Like I'll kind of go down this
path of like doing this and doing that and doing that.

(47:20):
And then I'll come back full circle to the beginning where
it's just like rate the one thatyou think looks more beautiful.
I'm like, well, here I am. I just ran a fucking marathon
around this thing and I'm right back at at the start.
Like let me try this again. Like, and I've I just, you know,
like I haven't done it yet. But one of the things we were
talking about yesterday is I want to do a personalization
where I don't skip a single image and I just want to go

(47:43):
through each time and select onewithout skipping and just kind
of see, you know what happens there.
But you know, like, there's always been a speculative thing
for me that it's taking into account camera angles, it's
taking into account lighting colors, it's taking into account

(48:03):
depth composition. You know, like, obviously, like
the style itself, sure, that's the most obvious.
But like those other elements seem to matter too.
And even with personalization, it's like if I've ranked a bunch
of images that have the face up close, like it's going to
default to that more often, right?
So you also want to have like a good balance.

(48:25):
Last thought on that before I, Iturn this over to you too, is
like, I also struggle and kind of like go back and forth on the
fact of like, I kind of want to rate the broad array of images
that I, I could or want to create too, because that way
it's got information from me about that type of image.

(48:47):
Again, one of those like speculative hypothetical, I'm
not sure, but it kind of just feels like, OK, if this is like
the type of image I would createat any point, I'll probably rank
it, you know? Yeah, like I think I think
personally it does take into account like what you're what
you prompt the most because likeI have like when I run my

(49:07):
personalization code just on something random like the other
day I was just running while waiting for mid journey 7.
I felt like, you know, like, what's his name in The Shining
writing like, you know, all workand no play makes Jack a bad boy
or. Whatever I was, I was.
Just prompting mid journey as the prompt like waiting for
version 7, just like hitting it like over and it was First off,

(49:28):
it was producing some bangers. Oh, I will say that just like
just the word mid journey and then dot dot dot.
I've done that before. Well I didn't do it dot dot but
I have done the mid journey thing before too.
And it's good. And like, I can see it with when
it runs with my profile code versus when it doesn't my
profile code. It's, it's vibrant neon colors.
And I'm like that it has to knowthat's me because that's what I

(49:50):
do, you know, like I like neon and I like dark colors around
it. It's like a always like a neon
pop. I'm a, you know, a child of the
80s and 90s. What can I say?
And. Through and through.
It definitely comes through thatway because my first global
profile on V6 was so dark and contrasted and like textured and

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I was like, this is everything Irun.
Like it can't just be from my rankings, you know, like it has.
There has to be some other thingtaken into account.
But mine's gotten softer over the last over the last two weeks
now my I've noticed that I got to change that up a little bit.
Yeah, well, hey, you know the other thing though?
I wonder why From the explore page though they don't weight

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those more heavily. It's true.
Why? You know, like if
personalization is the goal in getting ultimately to the types
of image that you like, I, I just like, I know there's a
reason, but we don't know why wehaven't been told why.
I would like to know why, because it's just like it seems
very easy to just like we could go through explore page and we

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know for the most part they're like better images and like
there's just a good versatility of things there and you could
accomplish it in shorter time. It feels like a a better
indicator into as to the things that you like.
I would think so. I just wonder what the what the
rationale is there. I don't know but.
I I should spend more time on the explorer page than I do?

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I like it now because it, ever since they started curating the
like your homepage, I've noticeda big increase because I just
wasn't interested in what was going on there unless it was
something that I was interested for myself, you know what I
mean? Something I was looking for
myself and I wanted to search and see what other people were
doing. Yeah, but if I wouldn't just
scroll it on a whim because it would always be like this.

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None of this pertains to me, it feels like.
But I've just been I've been loving seeing what people have
been doing on X. I've been watching a lot of
people finally starting to come around.
And the interesting thing was that I saw and I I want to see
if I can actually pull this up. Give me give me two seconds
here. I can't find.

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I think it was Alex on here did a did a little comparison where
he made a video between made a video between mid journey and
runway on the top box and on thebottom.
On the bottom view he did Imogenand VO2 and still like compare
the aesthetics and you could seethat mid journey has brightened

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up so much and it looks it lookslike the exposure's all the way
up. But let me see, I remember that.
I remember that 'cause I think Isaw your comment on it.
And yeah, 'cause I saw that postand I remember I was more
interested in your comment and what like comparing that result

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than I was actually, I didn't, Ididn't dig into his post exactly
analyzing it, but from a glance perspective, 100% right.
Like we've, we've been talking about that too.
Like the images have just been like slightly underexposed ever.
And now this feels like the first model that feels just in

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line, or maybe even slightly overexposed.
You know, like it's bright. Let's see so like to me it was
it was pretty glaring when I waswatching it right?
Let's see here it is like when if we go back to the beginning,
even look at the look at the first shot, right?
Like the what the it's brighter immediately right?

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The second shot, this one, I would say it's brighter because
there's more contrast than this one like it's more exposed in
the top one right. This one definitely more you
know, there's there's more contrast in the in the Imogen in
the VO2, like I was just going through every single one like
this one more brightness on the character himself.
That's the that's such a good example because what's really

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impressive about this is mid journey is doing a great job of
still giving you the cinematic color graded LUT preset, post
edit, whatever the hell you wantto call it.
Feel while main while making it brighter, which is kind of hard
to do sometimes, you know. And so when you compare these,

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well, that one was maybe like the exception, but like it just
because that mid journey version, it looks more real and
believable, slightly more right,because it's just it feels like
it's nailed both the highlights,like the lights and the darks.
And it's got this color graded that feels very believable and
real, you know, and yeah, I feltthat was just fascinating to

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see. And then the the call out that
you had, did he mention that or did was that just an observation
that you had from it? I can't.
Nope, that was just me, right? Away.
See, I mean, like that to me wasthe more interesting point is
just like, Oh yeah, like that. Just like look at the difference
here, like this is, you know, this is pretty, this looks like
how mid journey used to be like that's what it used to be.

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And I, I have a feeling because it's like a, it's almost like a
default setting for some of these, for some of these image
generators. It has to be because the more
dark and black you have in here,that means the less detail has
to be applied there, right? So.
Great point. When you look at the black here,
you don't have to put a lot of detail into that because.
That's a great point dude. But the more light you have, you
have to put all this detail in everywhere.

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Here there's a lot more black and like contrast 'cause it just
sort of fades. Same thing with white, right?
So that's why it feels like these are more contrasted
because there's more detail in the in the depth level in here.
Like we'll get the the foreground here, or at least the
mid ground with these two, the depth is so is very shallow.
You have a shallow depth of field, right?

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This is very blurred. And then you look back here, how
far this goes back plus how far the grass goes back into the
depth without it being I'm assuming this is the very
similar prompt or the same prompt.
So you get like a moderate depthof field.
Yeah. Like that's still in, that's
still in focus. No, I think I think that's a
really, really, really good point.

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The dynamic range is how you would like sort of describe that
the brightest brights, the darkest darks, the details
within them. And you know, when you think
about that from a photographer'sstandpoint, you know, that's the
difference between a camera thatcost $2000 and a camera that
cost 5 to 10,000 dollars, you know, the the ability to capture

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the extra detail within that. And I think that's just a
terrific observation in general,but.
And you can see it. You can see it.
We've taught, maybe I mentioned this on the last one.
The depth is so much better in this version than the last one.
But you see, this one feels likeif you were to try to understand
how much footage is behind this woman, there's probably like
1015 feet. This one goes back 2030 feet,

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right? Like this.
There's a lot of depth here. As you can see it gets back.
You still have detail in the flowers all the way back.
Same thing here. I'm not, I'm not knocking on
Google. I'm just.
Saying, Oh yeah, we're like split, we're splitting hairs
here, but this is. 'Cause you see this is.
The difference right here, yeah.The lighting here like you have
you have the shadow on the face.You have this side painted like

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she has multiple dynamic pieces of lighting going on right now
on her, especially in the hair. Same thing here, but less less
so like it's just on top here and just like a little bit angle
from the top down. But to me, I'm just I'm noticing
how much brighter it is in general.
Like every single one of these images or every single one of
these videos. You notice that mid journey is

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the brighter option. Even the even this one.
It's probably supposed to be more silhouetted, but it's still
brighter. I would say like that car in the
background you can see more detail than you can.
See. Right.
Like these are I, I just think there was an overall that might
not have been the point of the post, but it was like an overall
good yeah expose. I know, I just thought that that

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was like the, the, that might have been the more interesting
story actually. And I just, yeah, I mean,
that's, that's it. It's cool to see, right 'cause
like also when you think about that, I, I have had to alter
some images with the brightness before I post them in the past
like a few times too, you know what I mean?

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Like there have been occasions like that where I've like posted
it and then I've, you know, I'm looking at how bright my screen
is compared to like what, what, you know, what gets posted and
making sure that like it does like sort of deliver what I hope
it delivers, right? Because sometimes even just
adjusting brightness on an imagedoes a ton, you know?
Totally, or the highlights or the shadows or whatever.

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You know when you get into, whenyou get back in there.
But the other the other thing with that is the, you know,
there's if you go back to version 5, right?
I'm sure you remember this if you did any sort of portrait
work, like everything was silhouetted right or everything
was, what's the vignette like? Everything had that like black

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outline, like it was dark because they were trying to put.
So much and it was perfectly centered and it was, I mean, I
love, I love Wes Anderson, but like you just had that overload
Wes Anderson look. And I, you know, first when I
started doing portraits with thejourney like that whole WI feel
like everybody went through thatphase too.
Like that was like a initiation practice of 'cause it worked.

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With what the school? Was good at, you know, it was
good at that right away. But, you know, like, yeah, yeah.
Man, rounded edges, pastel colors.
It was like, oh, this is like this is Wes Anderson style.
So let's like do it, which is like, OK, then you know, it's,
it was just something that I went back and I ran, I ran some
stuff, I ran the same prompt from version 5 and then version

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7. And I was like, oh, it's so
dark. And then it's so light.
And I'm like, that's, that's quality improvement.
That's just not a, that's just not like a settings change.
That's just, it's applying more detail into areas that can, that
now can be eliminated. So we're nerds.
Well, this is where I'm like, yo, we're looking at you mid

(59:55):
journey. I mean, like we we love you guys
love us back. Dude, we're giving you guys some
great insight here free like just nerd insight too.
Like this is this is probably stuff that you guys may talk
about internally at at the team,but like, and props to you guys
like this is an awesome tool. Of course, like we, we love
using it, but I mean, when you run these many, you know, this

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many images that that you and I have, I mean.
You start to just kind of pick up on some of these, like
invisible things, right? Like, yeah, you're not going to
see this unless you just have gone so far, but.
It's picking, it's the, it's themicro.
I think that's why we probably all love it #1 it's creative
into the micro details. Like you just can't get those,
that level of detail really anywhere else.

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Like there's no stylize that I know of in any other image
generator, right? How simple is that one?
I mean, there's, there's creative tolerance or whatever,
you know, the waiting or the temperature.
That is true, right? Isn't that true?
Yeah. It's like, I want to do this
concept, but I just want to makeit more ridiculous.
Like it's like, yeah, wouldn't that be nice?
In every single, I don't know why no one, I'm sure Leonardo

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has it. I haven't been on there in a
long time. But you know, it does.
I don't think many of them have it because they're all focused
on coherence, right? And midgeneries focus on
creativity, so that creativity though, can produce some bangers
when you give it the parameters,right?
So it's like, I just want that sometimes.
And it's like, to me, it's like the balance of coherence versus
creative interpretation because I still like using those just

(01:01:26):
categorical tokens that just canproduce some like really fun
stuff, you know, Bobby? Sabi.
Bobby Sabi, that's. A great one.
Bobby Sabi, we've talked about abunch on here.
Nuzzle. I've been using it with animals.
It makes them look even cooler. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Try it with, try it with a, you know, like a horse or like a
goat or something. It makes them look like extra

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gnarly. And I'm like, this is great.
I love this thing so much. That's a wonderful token that
you threw out there. And we got to go back to the
token. We got to go back to do a token
episode. I think so, yeah, like maybe we
maybe we play around with this some more figure out kind of
like maybe we'll, we'll do some purposeful testing because yeah,
it's been a while What works with V7 now, you know, because

(01:02:07):
it, it has changed, right. So yeah.
Extreme tonal balance is back. That's all I know.
I was that one like disappeared in V6 one for some reason like
it wouldn't work and now I ran it again and it was like spot
on. I'm like, yes.
There we go. I'm gonna, I wanna, I wanna try
tonal contrast because you know,when I was doing a lot of

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photography, I would purposely go in and, and do the dodge
burn, but like really make sure there's some micro detail and
tonal contrast when it came to like wrinkles on the face and
skin textures. And you know, now with V72, it
got me thinking I was like, oh, let me take something that I've
already upscaled and even, and then let me go into like

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sometimes if I'm doing somethingquick, I might use like snap
seed. I have Lightroom.
Like I'll use Lightroom again, just depends like how I'm going
to use this. If it's just like something I'm
posting, probably not. But tonal contrast, man, tonal
contrast was is awesome because it like just it it, it really
provides contrast in the darks, the lights and the mid tones,

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right? The highlights, the darks and
the mid tones. And it can really like just give
that pop factor. And it's specifically really
great with faces too. So just I want to try that token
out. I bring that up because I I
haven't tried that token on V7. I wonder if that has any sort of
manipulation or factor in. But yeah.
It's a good one. It's probably, you know, it's

(01:03:33):
something I'm always looking for.
I know you get like, yeah, I know you've done like the tonal
balance and micro detail. Yeah, I mean like.
I love that stuff because it's just like dark and light.
I just like how. I do too.
I do too man. I wish I was more of a bleached
out minimalist type person, but I'm not.
I'm a, you know, I'm a probably 2 personalities, a little bit
crazy, a little bit calm, who knows.

(01:03:54):
But it's a dude. There's so many, there's so many
good things happening. I think everyone needs to chill.
It's all good, baby. Out chill outs it's not it's not
the end of the world. This is this update is just
because it wasn't like the best thing you've ever done on the
first day. Like if you if you quit at that
point, like whatever you know, like and.

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You're probably not even listening to this if you did.
But the point is, is, you know, let's judge it in a month, two
months. Let's get all the stuff that's
supposed to be in here in here. And then let's let's talk about
it. And remember the whole character
consistency Omni reference that was supposed to be the corner
show. This whole thing wasn't even
about, you know, the improvementin quality and the texture that

(01:04:37):
was like down the list. So let's get this other stuff,
then we'll make, you know, some more observations there.
But yeah, man, let's wrap this baby up.
Let's let's come back next week.I think we'll have some more
observations there. And yeah, man, what do you want?
What do you want to say to thesefolks?
Like subscribe maybe just like or comment or subscribe either

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Why don't you do this? Tell a friend.

(01:05:19):
If you've already done that, tell, friend, tell.
Friend tell friend just a just aquick.
One we're here, we show up everyweek, dude, I, you know, like
we're kind of getting close to the one year mark on this.
Got a couple more months, we're almost there.
We are, we're, I think this is episode 37. 373738 All right.
That's something like that. That's a lot.
That's a lot of episodes. It is a lot of episodes.
Stacking them. Stack them.

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Yeah, brother. Well, hey man, pleasure as
always. Nice to be out and we'll see you
guys in the next one. Later.