August 16, 2025 • 59 mins
MJ:FH Ep. 48—Midjourney just unlocked HD video for everyone, added new batch size controls, and teased more of Style Explorer, V7.1, and V8. Here’s everything you need to know.Two bleary-eyed nerds test Midjourney’s newest toys so you don’t torch your credits. In this run-and-gun lab, Drew Brucker and Rory Flynn cover the video update (batch size 1–2, HD now available), why Moodboards finally lives in the sidebar, and what V7.1 is poking at while V8 hogs the spotlight.They preview Style Explorer, debate O-Ref's re-emergence, and trade practical tactics for coherent, extendable shots without wasting fast hours. Expect detours into style codes, tokens (hello, “Homesteader”), and EXP vs Stylize in real workflows.Translation: a friendly chaos sandwich with updates, experiments, and a little self-roasting, while laying out clear takeaways you can steal today.---⏱️ Midjourney Fast Hour00:00 - Cold Opener08:35 - Midjourney Update Rundown09:04 - Video Batch Sizes 1–2 + HD Mode09:49 - Moodboards Sidebar Update11:27 - V7.1 Notes + O-Ref Talk12:14 - Early V8 Teasers18:53 - Style Explorer Preview20:16 - tyle Explorer Wishlist + Trends27:21 - Midjourney TV 29:38 - Token Talk: “Homesteader”32:14 - EXP Parameter Live Test33:45 - EXP vs Stylize Workflow34:30 - Stylize Confessions + Image Ranking38:39 - GPT-5 Hype vs Reality40:02 - Sora + Coherence Issues45:38 - HD Video in Practice46:37 - Missing “SD to HD” Button48:21 - Manual Prompting for Extensions54:44 - Text + UI in Midjourney Video56:40 - Video Troubleshooting Lab Idea57:33 - Fixing Video Coherence58:57 - Outro + Subscribe---
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What's up mid journey fast hourspodcast episode 48 Rory Flynn
Drew Rucker come in right at youon this Friday mid journey
update. We got video, we got smaller
batch sizes. We got some updates we'll share
with you there with office hoursnotes all that good stuff.
We'll talk a little bit more about kind of the new features
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that are launched, some of the things that are upcoming and of
course we'll just kind of talk about how ChatGPT 5 is ruining
some people's lives and and their self respect so.
That's that's that's actually gonna be the thumbnail.
Chad GBT is ruining people's lives and self respect.
So that'll be that'll be a good one.
You guys can see it. We play the thumbnail game now.
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We have to unfortunately, but that's the way things go.
But yeah, man, it's been. I'm just.
Fixing I'm loving my I'm loving my character caricature.
Caricature. Caricature.
Yeah, cuz they're fun. Like it just, it's just big
mouth for both of us cuz all we do is talk on this thing.
True, true. Hey, you ever seen the I think
where I got that idea from? It wasn't in my mind when I
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started it. But do you remember the movie
Bulworth? No.
Not do I not remember it. I don't even I know what that
is. I've never.
Heard so it's it's not as much about the movie as it is the
song. Do you remember the song Ghetto
Superstar? Oh yeah.
OK, I'm pretty sure it's it was in it was from that movie.
If I can, if I can find this here, hold on, don't ask me
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what. I like that.
I like that reference right there.
And I'll tell you another thing that reminds me of, you know,
Nate Dogg Regulate. All right, that was.
That was from above the rim. OK, so this is.
So I mean like those songs made for the movie.
I mean, don't sleep on it. This was the this was the
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poster. Obviously not the same thing,
but I remember just like that big giant mouth I've.
Never seen this before. This feels like yeah, I've never
seen this. I don't.
I can't confirm. Let's see if just Google without
me having to go into was it ghetto superstar in a movie?
Bulworth. All right, there we go.
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I was. I was.
What was this? What was this movie about?
I. Feel like it was a politician
movie, something about somethingabout politics I.
This is a movie you've seen. You've seen this.
If I've if I've seen it in full,it was 20 years ago.
OK, maybe. Which is so sad to think I was a
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teenager. 20 years. Ago.
That should be a question. What is the Best Song that's
come from a movie? There's some good ones.
There's like I mean regulate above the rim is got to be top
five. I mean hustle and flow like that
was the Three 6 Mafia song. I forget what the what the name
of the actual song was that HardOut Here for a pimp that one.
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Now I'm going down the hip hop route, but there's a lot of
other there's a lot of other ones.
Are we talking? Are we even go?
Are we going to Disney too with like Elton John and I?
Think we are. I think we're going up.
Yeah, I think we're OK. Here we go.
I'm Chad, GBT 5 in this as we speak here.
So my heart will go on Céline Dion.
Titan All right. Lose yourself, Eminem, Eight
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Mile. That was that was 4/8 mile.
I didn't realize that was I thought that was previous too,
but all right ranks. Well, this is saying used in
movies. Oh, no, wait, hold on.
Yeah, They were originally written for them.
Yeah. OK, so they were written.
Yeah, this is right. Team America.
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World Police, I mean. Oh, I don't.
America. Fuck yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty good. Eye of the Tiger Rock.
Oh yeah. All right.
That's got to be that's how's that not even like top?
Three. That's a good one.
That's a good one. I will always love you, Whitney
Houston bodyguard. Whoa, yeah, that was for a
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movie. Yeah, the bodyguard.
Kevin Costner was a bodyguard for Whitney Houston in the
movie. Yeah, Yeah.
That's a new one on me. I didn't know that thought that
was. Skyfall, Skyfall by Adele and
the double that was yeah, that was a pretty good one it.
Was a good one. I didn't even know that was
Adele. I know this.
I know this song like by heart. I did not know.
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That I'm not a Sam Smith guy fora lot of reasons, but he did a
he did a really good song on oneof the O 7 movies.
I can't remember which one it was, but it was epic.
Have you happened to come acrossthe Sam Smith Adele conspiracy
theory, which is like the funniest thing I've ever come
across. I have not.
I have not. Same, same person that they and
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like they, they, this guy. I mean, it's, it's for
entertainment purposes only. Everyone I know I have to say
this stuff. Yeah, we're on we're on YouTube
here. That's right.
So the the guy does like a videobreakdown of all these people
and he just he just pitches their voice up or down and then
like you hear it and like matches.
OK, right. And then they like he's doing
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like side by sides and then sortof like if you were gonna like
mash in like, you know, blend and mid journey, it's like.
Oh yeah, yeah. All right.
There was some some guy that does an impersonation and he was
doing it with, I forget the actor's name, but it's the old
guy that was in the Batman movies with Christian Bale.
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Alfred, yeah, whatever that whatever that actor's name.
Yeah, he was, he was basic McCain and and then Matthew
McConaughey. He was basically saying this is
the same voice. Oh yeah, just.
Based on the Based on the pitch,which is which is kind of funny
too. But there's, well, I get, I get
hooked into a, you know, a little promo for, for YouTube
Shorts. I, you know, I get hooked into
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YouTube Shorts and there's awesome content on YouTube.
For whatever reason, my algorithm just dominates.
Yeah, you were saying that the algorithm's good on there.
I found this one account that all he does is breakdown samples
of within like hip hop music andlike you know in house music and
things like that. So hope he did shook ones by
Mobb Deep and it was just like he like the three songs, like
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the notes or like the chords or like the verses, whatever it
was. Then they like break it out.
You know, they pitch it down, they trim it, they pinch it and
like you hear them all like individually and then they mash
it together. And I was like, this is such an
awesome idea for a page. I could listen to that.
I could watch that stuff all day.
Yeah, that's what I that's one of the main things I love about
90s hip hop. And the early hip hop was just
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like all the work that went intomaking the beats through sort of
like this manual experimental, you know, this is what I have to
use kind of thing and I'm going to come up with something kind
of mentality. And the beats were just so much
better. I mean, I mean, you could come
up with something today and it'sjust like you just don't
appreciate. It's like that.
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It's kind of like with AI. Same process.
No, the whole effort heuristic, right?
Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, OK, well this took 2 seconds to
create. So it's it's not as valuable as
it would be if I it took me 48 hours to create this thing.
It's a very similar process though, when you look at like,
all right, we're taking an imageand we're breaking it down, or
you're looking at a prompt on mid journey explore page and
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breaking it down, sort of takingthe tokens out like we've done
with a few of them, like like Dyad last week.
Dyad was, yeah. Taking those ingredients out,
flipping them around, remixing them, it's like kind of very
similar, you know, in in a process standpoint, not saying
that it's exactly the same, but it it feels creatively similar
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in that sense. But for sure the the one who had
not to go too far down the rabbit hole here, everyone, the
one who's one who's like just awesome.
I'm not a Kanye fan anymore because he's just at it.
Like, I don't know what happened, but like those early
Kanye albums, the 1st 2:00 the his production on some of that
stuff is so cool. Like he, you like those videos
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that they're, you know, of him breaking down, like what what
he's doing in the songs and whathe's like sampling from and how
he's mashing them together. It's like if you're an artist of
any like format, you can't like not appreciate it.
Like take Kanye's name out of itand just like watch the process.
Like it's so cool for sure. Yeah, dude, I mean the cows
dropout still got to be one of the best.
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Yes, 100% late registration, whatever it is, those are
premium, premium quality music. Not anymore, but whatever we got
a lot. I'm sure you know we can we can
pivot back to AI after that. Well, let's go, let's go into
let's go into mid journey. Let's catch people up with with
what's going on, what's coming. You know, there was a office
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hours Wednesday. We talked about a few different
things that they shared here. Smaller batch size videos
implemented. So now you can, you don't have
to get 4 videos back. You can choose one or two.
And I, I, I believe this is because I, I haven't done it,
but it's batch size 1 or batch size 2, I think from what I've
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seen. Yeah.
So you could, so you could throwthose in there if you're, if you
don't want to run all four again, just from like a saving
fast hours generations kind of perspective, maybe that helps.
HD video modes now available to standard subscription tiers.
You know, I think if you're are,are on something like a standard
plan, I probably wouldn't spend a bunch of time running HD
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simply for the fact of the, the cost is just so much higher
right now. And I think that cost will go
down over time. Yeah, well, it's a good move.
I mean, like, you know, I could burn through my entire months of
credits just working on one video, so it's nice to have it
just trimmed down to one. Yeah, HHQ, at least you.
Know yeah, I agree like that's so that's a cool that's a cool
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move. And then, you know, mood boards
got their dedicated sidebar placement.
So I think the thought here, at least from what I had seen, was
that they wanted to they felt like it was a little hidden and
I I think it was So now they've got this in the tab here.
You click into this and I mean, it looks relatively the same
beyond that, right? Like you can just get into all
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your mood boards are right here.That was.
That much needed as weird as that sounds very nice.
Yeah. It's hard to explain.
It's like, where do I find mood boards?
Well, it's in personalized. It's at the it's.
Underneath, it's just, it was just so buried, right?
I yeah, I mean like I, I, I probably will think about them
more now that I've got it in thesidebar.
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It's definitely going to be. It's still my most used feature
I think at this point, beyond SRAF and everything.
I use it all the time. Yeah, if you, if you guys aren't
using those. I mean we there was a period of
time where it was pretty slow with mid journey other than mood
boards and I think we did like 3or 4 episodes just on mood
boards. Because it's like infinite, you
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can go in any direction that youwant and you can really like,
you know, I keep finding new uses for it and I just, I love
it. So it it really does a great
job. I don't know if they updated it
recently but what's it What sorry?
Face said. What about me?
Freaking out right now. About me, Dad.
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OK, let's let's continue. Keep going Sir.
I think the other thing that they said was video thumbnails
switching to the show end frame and so the beginning frame.
Small thing there. V-71 better prompt understanding
and testing. Improved O ref capabilities are
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being explored, not promised explored.
Enhanced draft mode under consideration, features still in
early testing and tracking phase, and some V8 features
maybe back ported to V-71 or 7.2which I've never heard of before
just now. They were David was really going
in like I, I, I tuned in for maybe 20 minutes of office hours
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and David was going in on version 8 and he was like, it
seems to be the heaviest focus of the call at.
Least yeah, yeah, they've, they've said, they've sounded
really optimistic about V8 when that comes.
I don't know if that's somethingthat's going to come before the
end of the year or not, right. I think that's the question.
But they're saying right, that'sthe that's the top priority.
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At least that's what I've gathered as well.
Like from being on some of thosecalls is V8 feels like the top
priority, which kind of brings us back to that conversation we
were having last time, which is what does that mean V8?
Is it like, are we still talkingabout the same things in terms
of quality and coherence, you know, as being like, like the
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poster child for what V8 is going to be better at?
Or are we thinking about something that we haven't either
been told yet or haven't, you know, sort of fully vetted out?
Like, I think that's the the thing I'm most curious about,
like O ref, right? Like that being brought back up,
still being, you know, it's being explored.
But is that like how big of a focus is that going to be?
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Right? Because I thought O ref with V7,
right, we all thought was going to be completely solved and then
it's not. So like is that going to be a
big priority for V8, right? Like, I don't know.
We'll see. I I honestly think O ref has
gotten better. Maybe I'm just using it better.
I don't know. I I feel like it hasn't been you
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know, obviously you can't throw a product in there If you're
you're anyone's listening to this thinking they can do that,
it's not going to work. You know, like anything with
text or has a logo or branding not going to work.
If you want to throw a couch in there, yeah, that'll work or a
car that'll work. But I was, I was I went down the
rabbit hole of of like doing it again.
I was building some more some like updated material for my
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course on it. And it was so I kind of like
test all the different like variations of this.
Like I really hadn't done anything since it it since it
launched and I've just been using it in a rudimentary level,
but I, it I feel like it worked better.
Like, I don't know what I don't know because the last time I
tried it, it was very like I needed to balance the O ref and
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the Exp values to like get something that looked like
relatively close. This time I didn't really need
to balance that much. I didn't really need to use Exp
at all. I just used O ref.
And if you know, a lot of it wasa lot of it was sort of like
figuring out what the point of anything over O, you know, O ref
400 or object weight 400 was like, I was like, is there any
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real use for this over It doesn't seem to like really work
beyond that. It just like gets weirder.
So I was even testing with superhigh stylized values and I was
like, all right, S 1000, you know, O refs or OO weights.
I don't even what is it? Is it object weight or, or oh
wait, I don't even know what thehell to call it.
OW the parameter. Ow.
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Ow it's OW, OW 750 and like, yeah, it's interesting because
it keeps, you know, the one thing I did find after running
like a million tests for anyone who's here and nerding out on
ORF. But the closer the lower you go,
the less of the the less of the input image gets pulled in, the
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higher you go on on OW. Like if you go OW 1000, it pulls
in backgrounds too. Like I was I was intentionally
doing like a guy on a white background, like using him as
the a ref, right, like stark white background.
And then like the test sort of like place him in an
environment. I was putting him in a low light
dark alley. So I wanted it all to be dark to
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see if he would illuminate. And then by like owa thousand
like the he's like basically standing against the white wall,
like getting the flash. The camera is super bright, so
if anyone's test playing around with that side quest we just
took on O ref. That was just something that
came up when I was testing is. Like I wonder, I wonder how many
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people are using it right now Because like I completely like
once I understood what it was kind of doing, I was like, I'm
probably not going to touch thisfor a while.
I think anyone that wants to usea video, right, like anyone's
trying to create like a little bit of a project in mid journey
or build a world or make a storywith the video stuff like you
need consistent characters. So like the, you know, the thing
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what I found is lower O lower O weights for changing clothes
seems to work better too. So the lower ow between like 50
and like 150 seems to be pretty good for changing clothes and
keeping everything consistent. But there's so many variables to
it, which is what makes it hard,right?
That's what even when I was. Hard.
Yeah, it's harder than it needs to be.
Yeah, it was like, OK, what happens if I want to change his
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clothes and change the environment and change his pose
and change his action? Do I use a style reference?
Do I use, you know, image reference?
Do I use like? So it was, it was definitely
interesting to sort of go down that experimentation path.
I hadn't done it in a long time and it was just like.
It can feel like it can feel like a puzzle in a journey
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sometimes, right, 'cause it's like, well, what is the, you
know, what is the best Ave. to do X?
You know, and I mean, we used totalk about this all the time,
but it's like there's probably four or five ways to do just
about anything in mid journey. And sometimes 4 of of the five
won't work. And it's the one, the one way
that does that you kind of need to know, right?
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And so it's just like the idea that you kind of know the
different paths to potentially get what you're looking for, but
still still kind of gives you pause.
You still gotta like pause and think about every single time
you do something, especially even haven't done it in a while.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause I'm not really like I feel like my my
intention with mid journey isn'tstory anymore.
My intention with Mid Journey islike, I want to go and just
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create stuff and like go and like keep branching into the
multiverse of my ADHD versus like, you know, telling a story,
which you know, you can do. I just haven't like really been
attacking it that way as of recent.
It's been more of like my creative outlet.
I yeah, right. That's kind of been my my thing
as well, yeah. But the capabilities are there.
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But I'm, I'm, the way that they're talking about version 8
is reminding me of how they talked about video when it got
close, where it was like they were like, well, you could tell,
you could tell there was like some, some good stuff going on,
you know? Yeah, V7 didn't have sort of the
fanfare that they're talking about with V8.
I mean, V8 sounds like almost like what that V6 kind of kind
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of feeling when you went from, you know, the way they they and
there was a big jump there, right there was yeah.
I mean, so V8 focus, I mean V2 video model planned after V8
completion. So I mean, that's we're we're
still talking a while away here.Most long term projects remain
confidential secret projects still secret style explorer
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feature. So this feels like maybe the
next thing that's coming targeted release by end of the
month, but it's possible that that goes beyond month end.
So we're talking somewhere between 2:00 to four weeks for
that. But outside of this note and
brief little things I've heard on office hours, I don't know
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shit about what this means. What is what are, what are we
talking about? What is Style Explorer?
I I don't know what it is. So that's where I dropped off.
I dropped off the call right as that, right as I was getting
like someone had asked the question and I feel like the
question someone asked was like,is this going to put people out
of business who are selling style codes?
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And David's like I didn't know people were selling style codes.
And I was like, I was like, well, yes, people are.
And they're, you know, it's, it's basically some people's
like entire business models, which is just style codes.
So it's I, I'm, I don't know how, I don't even know how I'd
want it, to be honest. Like how would you want, I feel
like you use them like you like them a lot and like, you
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probably use them way more to their capacity than I do.
But if you had, if you had it, what would you want it from it?
Like if it was you, up to you. I don't personally, I don't, I
don't know that I, it feels likea like a need because I just go
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in and unlock my own and I thinklike I've unlocked enough where
it's like I probably don't need to go looking for something.
I've probably already got it somewhere.
Well. If you are, I mean.
Like the 1% of style code generators.
Yeah, for sure. I wonder where I'm at on the the
list. I've I've, I'm probably up
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there. I don't know, man.
I, I just think like the way that I would think about style
Explorer in the way that I wouldwant it to exist almost
coincides with a bigger vision for just community leverage in
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the sense of like, maybe these are the style codes that are
trending and maybe that swaps out each day.
Maybe there are quick filters that you can find.
OK, cool. But like there's not I, I, I, I
don't there's 4 billion codes. So style explorer, what are you
going to type in blue? And then you've got 500 million
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style codes to go through blue illustration.
Now I've got 50 million to go through.
Like, So what are we, you know, like, what are we talking about?
I I like some categories, maybe like.
So I mean like depending on that, no matter how far down you
filter it, you're going to have so many, right?
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So so I don't know if this is like really cataloging all four
billion. I have no idea.
But I'm thinking about in terms of it would be fun from a
community aspect where this kindof rolls into things like
tokens. What are some trending tokens
right now? What are some trending style,
you know, or maybe this is a part of the community where you
feature individual people and you say, hey, look, these are
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Drew's top five style codes for the month of blank, right?
Like where it feels like a little bit more of a community
aspect leverage. Same with the token side, right?
Maybe there are things that are shared amongst the group and it
also leverages the community or voices in the community.
I think that could be a cool play.
That's how I would want to see it kind of take place and, and
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almost kind of be a part of thisbigger community social profile,
you know, kind of conversation. To me, it's not necessarily
about finding the the exact style because it's like, OK, I
mean, I could, we could do that.We could find that.
So just like sort of reorganizing the explore page to
fit style exploration, if that is that sort of the idea, like
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where it's trending hot of the week, hot of the month, hot of
the whatever could be, you know,could be it's.
Interesting. I wasn't thinking of it like
that, but I I think that would be cool, yeah.
I mean, the infrastructure's already there for that.
I don't know how they pull that data, but I guess it's, I guess
that would make sense. I mean, do you think like do are
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people really using a lot of other people's styles or is it
more like a personal thing? I think so.
I think so. I'm I'm getting ready to release
a style code thing. I'm dropping, I'm dropping one
that's focused just on the best ones.
So I've probably shared, you know, I don't know, 1000, you
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know, just across my social profiles over time.
And I mean, the reality is like,it does take a lot of time to
find really good ones. And so like I've put a bunch of
those existing ones, probably like 90% of them in my in my
guiding course. But then I'm thinking, OK, like
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let's, let's really get to like the good stuff.
And I think that's where it's like, I, I do feel like people,
people want that. There's some people that just
don't want to spend the hours mining stuff.
It does take a lot of time to find them.
And then you've got third party libraries, but like I've seen
other style code libraries and like they're OK.
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Just listing. Maybe I'm just a little, maybe
I'm a little snobby with it, butI'm just like, I like it Looks
like you just kind of pulled style codes and you posted them
right where I'm like going through and I'm like, Nah, like
9 out of 10 of these ain't goingto work for what I'm going to
actually show, right. And so I think like the curation
aspect is maybe the key of that,but it's.
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Definitely, you definitely need to curate them.
The only problem is I feel like I've probably passed over like
probably 200 good ones because whatever I generated just didn't
catch my eye. But it probably works better
with something else. Bro, I found, I found one the
other day. I would have to go searching for
it, but I thought of you instantly.
It was the most gruesome and disturbing style code I've seen.
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Two actually two of them. So the one had like blood and
splatter on just about every image.
I was like, yeah, not seen that before.
They harvested. Maybe I'll go look, maybe I'll
go look for it while we're whilewe're on this, but.
They harvested my P code for that one.
They're just like, let's just make this a style.
We we took this guy's survey results and we turned it into a
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style code. That's what we did.
The most unassuming, you know, serial killer of all time,
apparently, like, doesn't even know it himself.
Yeah, so we know, but we know. It's like minority or they know
what you're gonna be before you're before.
You're yeah, they're seeing intomy future.
That's a, my problem with style codes is I always feel like I
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get to, they're like my, they'relike my creative spark.
So like when I really have nothing going on up top and I'm
in there, it's like, all right, I'll just mind the style codes.
You know what I mean? It's not like my, it's never
like my first thought. It's like, I want to go in there
and find some cool stuff. It's always like I'm trying to
get something. It's not working.
I'm like, I'm hitting like a creative wall and then I'm like,
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all right, style codes, let's just run those, see if something
jumps into my mind. And then I'm like, wait, I have
to organize these. I'm like, all right, That's
that's my only thing. I always like when I when I do
the big runs or I get into it and I dedicate like an hour to
it. I always find bangers.
But it's like, you know, hey, again, the ADHD just goes so far
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in the other direction. Can't stay focused.
It's too hard. Tedious process.
I know, I know. But so with that stuff putting,
I think like, you know, putting a bow on it feels like I like, I
sort of like the idea of, I likethe idea of this sort of a
community approach that you're suggesting.
I also want to like search for certain categories.
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Like I just want to look for photorealistic stuff.
Like I want to be able to like do that cinematic whatever face
crying in the background just soeveryone can, you know, she has
to say hi to everyone. But like, I would love to just
like look at it in that lens every once in a while so I could
just filter it and don't have tolike test it, you know, like to
test all these other codes to see if they can do what I want
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to do. Does that make sense though?
Like I, I want some of my manualwork to go down sooner or later.
It's too much. But yeah, it's I think it'll be
cool. OK.
You know, they always do. They always do stuff, you know,
mid journey TV. If you told me they were going
to release that two months ago, I'd be like.
Yeah, mid journey TV baby. Yeah, yeah, right.
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I think like maybe also part of the style code thing is it's
kind of cool right now because you don't really see generally
speaking, everybody using one ortwo style codes.
And I think like, I like that, right?
Because no one owns the style codes, but you also don't want
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to like everybody using the samething.
Like, I mean, it's like, so fromthat exclusive like exclusivity
standpoint, like if you're goingto use a, you're trying to find
a cinematic 1, I mean, you'd probably like to find one that
not really many people know about, you know what I mean,
versus one that everybody's using, right?
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Because then it it all starts tokind of look together.
Look like a treasure hunt, you know, like it's like that that's
like to me, that's like 90% of it, maybe more.
It's just like finding them yourself and being like that's
cool. It's random, you know, like
that's the to me, that's like the intriguing part is like it
is like a little like Easter eggs, like hidden throughout mid
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journey system. I I really want to go find this
gruesome 1. Are we going to get, are we
going to get dinged for, uh, inappropriate content on, on
YouTube? Yeah.
Not like our little. Not like our little that guy
that you ran with the face, withthe holes as the eyes.
Oh my God that was dude that wasso creepy.
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Why do we end up going down likea gruesome?
Rabbit, that was why. Like it's like .2% of what we
probably both generate and it somehow ends up on here.
It's is it because it's scary? That one, that one was wild.
What was that homesteader? Homesteader Yeah, with the, you
know, then we then we ran video.Of course, we had to keep
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pushing the envelope on it. Jesus, Homesteader.
Yeah, great prompt for anyone. Great token.
You know you should all go. Try.
Found it. Found it.
Pull it up. Roll the tape.
OK. Oh, that's all right.
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Yes. This looks just like my.
I mean, what if look at this allright?
I mean. It would definitely make some
cool video. Look at I mean.
You got a chainsaw, all right, OK.
Let's run this. Give me, give me, give me
something, brother. What do we got here?
Let's do. Let's do.
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Let's do homesteader. Homesteader 100% let's do child
in a mask. That should be that should be
creepy. Yeah, nightmare fuel.
Nightmare fuel. I wonder if it'll like
counteract it like it'll be likehappy do flower.
Jesus Christ Superstar flower. Do.
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Rage Against the Machine. Throw a nun in there for your
for old time's sake. None.
So just like straight up none ornone with.
The gun. None with the gun.
None with the gun. What else?
Trying to think of things that are happy ice cream.
Yeah, there you go, Sunday fun day.
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Sunday fun day. Let's see.
What else? What else can we come?
Up with movie poster Care Bear. Care Bear.
Wow, that's one that I wasn't expecting to ever hear on this
show. Ever.
What are what are the Pokémon creatures?
Yeah. All right, let's run this.
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I love running like a little DXPtoo, so let's do that.
Oh, this would be yeah. So I mean like, dude, this was I
was like, this is kind of this is kind of wild.
So in true, in true fashion to the podcast, we we have all this
one stuff. This was the other one.
This one isn't like this one is a gruesome.
That's cool though. But it's it's dark vibes, right?
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It's got that hazy, that hazy vibe aesthetic, like that hazy
light. Yeah.
I like that, looks like it has deep depth of field also on a
lot of these. This and this was a good, this
was a good one. Yeah.
Love that one. You'll have to pop me that one
in the chat. I like, I like to.
I want to play with that. I got you.
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I'm a blender. I like to blend all these things
with all their shit. There we go.
OK, homesteader, not looking as bad as my P code, but that, that
one's kind of wow, odd. What the There we go, That's
what I'm talking about. Just throwing a little Exp in
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there child in the mask. Not as crazy, I'm sorry.
So we get we're getting like lowangle close up on all these.
OK, what the? What?
What is? That's wild.
That one's kind of. Cool, my God.
Yes, I've seen that character before.
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It likes to default to that typeof character.
It's weird when it goes, when itgoes horror.
That's that's weird. You got some.
You got some interesting ones here, my friend.
Crazy. Flowers didn't do anything bad
to it. All right, 'cause I was gonna
make like little demon heads in flowers and stuff.
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Like that little blood on there.Little blood splatter on the
flower. Rage Against the Machine's a
good token I might have. To I love Rage Against the
Machine token. This is like one of the ones I
use for style code exploration. That is a good one I think.
Very open-ended, but also kind of legit.
Yeah, none with the grand. Nice.
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So yeah, you get like this whitemask, face ice cream and a
little blood on it. Yum.
Oh, Yum. Exp.
That's the Exp 10 all right. Yeah, EX P/E XPIII mean I dude,
I'm I, I think since Exp dropped, I'm not sure I've run
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anything without Exp as a print,really.
Or permutation. Permutation, yeah, I don't think
like not even once. I I always do zero and at least
one like at least one stop. I have not.
I've only got like when It's only when I'm trying to do like
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ridiculous things, if that makes.
Sense Oh really? I'm using it like it's.
It's great. I got to use it more than I just
say it. What is this album cover?
Yeah, these are wild. Do you find yourself using
stylize less? I don't use it at all.
I mean I just my default is 100.I don't even touch it anymore
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because I already know what happens when I do.
Blue and pink. Blue and pink.
So I just are you? Still ranking on your
personalize? Are you still?
Ranking like I, I mean, I did after that for a while, but I
haven't in a while, no. I did the other day just to like
see if it would change stuff because it was getting a little
bit too one direct, you know, 1 sided.
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Yeah, I did probably ranked like200 images change it a little
bit more. Yeah, I was.
Oh my God. What in the Pikachu is that?
That's a Pikachu I want no part of.
It is. What the?
That's like the upside down. You see what I'm saying?
I mean that's but like for S refcode.
That's pretty gruesome bro. I I mean, I haven't seen, I
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haven't seen anything like. That what's what is it go to
that one with the cross in the mid that.
This. That I like that.
This one. You got the black, red crisp
white that is dude's eyes. Got like jaundice as hell.
Like that is a really random image, but I like it.
Really is. Yeah, This is why the this is
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what my survey answers say is that this is what this guy
likes. My God, yeah.
So that one's that one's wild. So if you're into deep dark
stuff, say hi to Rory and use that style code.
I think we got to do a micro decisions episode again soon
too, just to like, I like that and have fun on here again with
the now that we have we have like so much more than we did.
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That was like, what was that February when we did that maybe?
Yeah, yeah, it was a while ago. That was a.
Lot more now, yeah. It was a while ago.
That was a long time. This is dude.
You have to wait. Hold on, wait a minute rollback
keep going. There was one that always looks
really funky yes, that one with the face the guy the right is it
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gets all colorful. You know I like that stuff right
the right about four in from theleft on the top row of the the
colorful painting style. No or sorry, four in from the
right. That one, yeah, yeah.
This is like a carpet texture too.
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Interesting. Yeah.
Is that in the? Is that in the whole style code
itself? Yep.
Yeah, it's got like an embroidered.
It doesn't have like an embroidered texture.
Yeah, I like this one. This is in the.
It's in the pack. Low key Americana great token.
Love Americana? Works very well.
Yeah. That one, what was the other
one? He's what?
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Was he a brand name? dribble.com album cover?
Movie poster Americana Rage Against the Machine I like to
use all All is fair in love and war a little bit too.
I get some good stuff out of there.
Rage Against the Machine. I already said that.
The work is mysterious and important.
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Yeah, yeah, actually I haven't used that in a while.
The what other ones I got in here.
Yeah, there's that. Cosmic Dreams is like another
good one. Chromatic aberration I use.
I like that one, I've used that one a bunch.
I'll usually use like the same I'll usually use like the same 5
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or 6 and then I'll I'll come up with like 3 or 4 new ones each
time I run a badge just to kind of see if there's like
something, something else out there it.
Just looks so neat and organizedbecause it's all it's all.
Yeah, I mean, really. Yeah.
Did it say I I wish I, I wish I did it more.
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I just don't. This one's kind of crazy.
I don't even know what you call this.
It's like. It's like wireframe.
Yeah, like what do you, what do you call that?
Oh, I like that. I like those textures like yeah.
It's sick. Yeah, it's like, like what's
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the? I don't know what the Yeah, I
don't know what the name of it is.
I'll have to ask ChatGPT. Well, Speaking of that, how have
you been? How have you been appreciating
GPT 5 since the Since the? Yeah, you were, I mean you were
saying that maybe like the personality of it's kind of been
sucked dry a little bit. I like in terms of the output, I
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don't feel like I'm getting anything different than I was
before. And I mean that probably in like
a good way. I guess like I was pretty happy
with four O, I mean, four O was great.
And I feel like just with how much you and I use it, right?
It's just like it, it only gets better because you've compounded
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all these learnings about you orit's got all this context,
right? And so like the more you use it,
the better it gets. You do that, you have some
custom instructions, you've got projects, you've got GPTS like
so I mean, you could pretty muchdo most of anything that you
want in there. And like, I mean, relatively
speaking to where we are with the tech, right.
So I, I like, I don't really feel any differently with five.
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It's kind of like I I feel like the way that it was hyped again
to, you know, Chad JP TS got or open AIS got this whole so sort
of playbook of like way over hyping and yeah.
Over the Protestant like shit and pretty soon like you're
going to be the little boy who cried wolf and no one's going to
give a fuck. It's like Sora, like it was like
this thing sucks. Look, if I look at the Sora in
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comparison to the other models right now, Sora has exceptional
quality when you can wield it. When are they dropping?
The second? They're coming up with the
second. It's coming soon.
I'm pretty sure it's coming in. I I feel like it's probably
coming in October. Feel soon, yeah?
Yeah, but they're, you know, it'll probably be good.
It's just like it. Just how can ChatGPT Image have
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such high coherence and Sora have the the worst coherence of
any AI platform? Yeah, it's interesting.
It's so random and it's bad because Sora has like Sora had,
you know, like remix that was like a remix was a stand alone
feature that did not exist untilnow.
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And you have Runway LF and you have the Luma situation.
I forget what it's called now that you can change the stuff
and now everyone can do it. But it was like they have like a
year run on that of like no one having a feature like that.
And it was like, OK, but you guys did nothing with it because
you can't prompt it to just say,like, guy walking to the left
without the camera, like spinning up into the universe.
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Yeah. Simple things guys, we don't
need a lot, but I. Wonder if mid journey, I wonder
if random, but I wonder if mid journey's going to go into the
sound game soon. I mean, you know, that's come up
on office hours a few times. They're like, ah, maybe maybe,
you know, I don't know, maybe not anytime soon, but it's just
like you feel like maybe you kind of have to given now that
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this is where you're in the space.
And I think that's going to be the next major drop for most of
these other ones that don't haveit is going to be sound.
Yeah, yeah, I think. It's inevitable, right?
I think it's inevitable, so why not?
'Cause I, I, I feel like, I meanlike VO dropped that when VO
dropped and they had dialogue that like changed everything
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you. Still made you stop.
Made you stop. How long though is that?
2-3 months ago, No one's been able to, no one's been able to
catch up yet. They're like they're, they're
already on to, to 4, You know, like 4 is probably just waiting
in the wings. They have enough data, they have
enough, you know, stuff to trainthat stuff on to make it better.
So, you know, like no one's evencaught up yet.
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And I think that's, it's such a we, I talk about this with the,
some of the companies that I work with them like they're
like, should we just use these other tools because VO 3 is kind
of expensive. I'm like, well, here's the other
process. If you don't want to use VO3 for
dialogue, you have to #1 create an image, then you have to
create a video. Then you have to go to 11 labs
and create a voice. Then you have to go lip sync it.
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Then you have to go sync it all together.
Then you hit. 6. Six extra steps to do it right.
Whereas, you know, if you want aconsistent voice for a
consistent character in VO, you just have to download the audio,
extract it and then, you know, change it in 11 labs and re sync
it back together. That's not crazy.
I mean, you can do this now on platforms like wevy relatively
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easy, but there's it's like that's such a game again, things
you didn't know you wanted, likewhen ChatGPT and flux came out
with, you know, models that detect well, it's like didn't
know I wanted it until I had it.Like I didn't know I wanted the
dialogue feature in there until we got it.
So that's, that's my end of my rant, But I, I think, I think
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that being said, it's the only way to go if you want to build
real, you know, real time world simulators.
You need dialogue and you need sound and you need all that
stuff to happen because it's toomany tools.
Yeah, Yeah. It's an interesting decision for
mid journey, not not only when you're going to do it, but how
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you're going to do it. Like because there was the idea
too that they were talking aboutof maybe we just start with sort
of non dialogue and sound effects, right, like wind
blowing feet, you know, stomping, you know, like stuff
like that. So you know, and in some cases
it like it really just kind of kind of comes down to what
you're creating and ultimately what you're using it for.
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I don't like to right now where we're at is the dialogue's great
from a maybe a storytelling social media standpoint, but
like for the most part, you're not using dialogue and finalized
products yet, you know, or, or final, final assets yet.
It's gotten there. You have to, you have to get it
into the right place though. You have to prompt for
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inflection and tonality and likeyou have to like actually
control it the same way you would like looking down to.
The well, that's what I'm sayingis like most of the time, like
the, the voice is too loud, you know, it, it, it, the, the
decibel level's too, too loud most of the time.
A lot of this stuff has to be done in post, but like I I'm I
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like how cling does it. Like if there's you know anyone
from mid journeys listening, I think it's just a good it
generates with the sound effects.
But when you download it, you have the option to download raw
file or with sound effects. Right.
So like. It's not.
It's not either or like I want to add sound on this as like an
option. It's just like if when you're
downloading, it's just the the MP4 file or the combined file,
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which I'm like, that's a smart way to do it.
So I don't have to like choose every time I generate.
But if I do, I want sound, do not want sound.
So I just add it in there. Yeah, MM audio is like nothing
like the to run to run that likeeffectively for every video.
I mean it's so cheap from a froma processing standpoint, so or
at least from my understanding and me running it on my own.
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What have you have you have you played around with sort of
circling back to mid journey fora second with with the HD
function now? And let's let's kind of talk
about that for a split second. Like how, how has that been
received from you? Like are you using it?
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When are you going to use it? Is it a big difference in your
mind? Like what?
What are your sort of like firstreactions at?
I like it. Am I going to use it all the
time? Probably not because I like the
reason I like the having the the480P generations so I can test a
bunch and just like like play around like I'll probably use it
as like AI don't want to say like an upscaling type option,
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but I've I've tested it a bunch of times.
I like it. It looks really good.
I think it's like right on par again with a lot of the best,
you know, a lot of the best tools, just not I'm not going to
like go to mid journey first forsome specific things, if that
makes. Sense, yeah.
What about the idea though that you can't?
I mean like is there's not a wayto take a standard definition
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video and turn it to HD on mid journey though?
No, I was thinking they should do this like like how they have
in draft mode, you know where it's like, oh, convert to like
full whatever it is full. There you go, like that.
An easy way to sort of like. You know, because it's like,
because then you're just like, oh shit, I generated this in SD.
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It should have done it in HD, right?
So now I'm, you know, kind of fucked from in the platform
standpoint of doing it. It'll be it'll be different, but
I mean, it's still just like sort of the same, if that, you
know, that's how I would go about it too.
Like if you're, unless you're just like doing manual prompt or
automatic prompting for your videos, like if you're doing
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manual prompting, majority of the time, if your prompts are
good enough to the video is going to be fairly consistent.
They're not going to be too varied in terms of like you're
generating a grid in 480. So sometimes it's easier to do
that, test if it works before you go and spend the credit on
the on the fast hours on, you know, doing HD because that'll
you'll burn through. You burn through.
Quickly, I I did, yeah. I was like, the day came out.
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I was like, oh shit, I got to stop.
How are you? How are you?
What's your what's your take on,you know, the the manual edits
with mid journey in terms of like coherence, maybe even
extending videos, right. Maybe this is like an
interesting thing to touch on islike what's the strategy for
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you've generated a video, now you want to extend it and you
want to provide, you choose to do it manually.
Do you need to keep the originalprompt in?
What parts are you leaving in, you know, or you just kind of
prompting for? Yeah, like the the only thing
that is important, assuming it'sgot all the information it needs
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previously, Yeah. Right.
I, I think a lot of that stuff'soverblown.
I feel like it uses the prompts in the first if you're just
doing, you know, auto prompts, just taking your prompt and sort
of like probably applying it to its own system prompt and saying
like, all right, this is what the output's going to be.
But I've been manual prompting alot more.
It's very coherent, honestly. And you don't have to really,
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unless you want to switch stylesand you want to switch
conditions. Meaning like if I have an
illustrated style and I want to make it like, you know, Griff, I
want to transform it into graffiti or whatever.
Like you don't really have to talk.
You don't really have to mentionthat in the prompt.
Like mid journey is already the best at style matching and
staying consistent. So it's it's not like you're
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telling it anything it doesn't know already.
It's already looking at it and saying this is what I can do.
So it's really focusing on like the action, like the action of
whatever is in your video. It's the subject, the camera
motion and sort of like the interaction of the environment.
I feel like people forget about that a lot of times.
You know, it's subtle things that make a difference.
(49:36):
You might just want to add like think about a car driving on a
wet road, right? Like it typically kicks up water
off the back of the tires, right?
Like when you when you see a cardriving on a wet Rd. like those
are some of the things that might might make it a little bit
more of a pop and make it look more real.
A lot of times so or, or just give it, you know, it doesn't
matter. It doesn't have to look
(49:56):
cinematic or real, but. Just let let me give you another
example though, like let's just say and I think that's a good
point with the details. I think what I'm getting at too
is like this, this kind of feelslike one of those things where
we're also talking about this kind of almost like with the
same way we did with in painting.
It's like, do you leave the whole prompt in there or are you
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just sort of like calling the one thing out, right?
Because like when you just when you're thinking about the
prompts, right, it's like, OK, should I, should I leave in I
level shot? Well, I think for something like
that, you're thinking about what's the next scene gonna be?
But like something like street photography or do I need to re
prompt for who my, who my subject is?
Right, That's what I'm thinking.Maybe people are wondering and I
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think I don't like I, I guess the way that I'm looking at it
is just from like a token standpoint.
I'm probably starting with the things that I'm, I'm looking at
the overall length of the prompt.
Like let's just use the example of like we're going to extend
this video. I'm looking at how many like
tokens I've got in here. And to begin with, if it's very
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long, then I definitely want to trim some stuff out because you,
you still know that there's somesort of drop off after a certain
threshold. We don't know what it is, but
yeah, so, so obviously the, the fewer the better from that
standpoint. That said, like I'm, I'm looking
at the things that I may also want to reiterate, right, like,
you know, like young black male with tattoo, like I, I probably
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don't need to leave that in there because I've already got
the subject in there, right, Butright, the action would be
different depending on the scene, You know, assuming
lighting's probably going to be the same unless you're changing,
unless you're transitioning, right?
So like. If it's going into a different
environment, most of the time it's good at picking that up.
But like, you know, if you're walking from outside to inside,
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sometimes you want to direct that, like directly control
that, right? Those things to take into mind
into into mind into note. I, I was just trying to say
something and like I had like a operationalized moment.
Operationalization, Operationalization, Yeah, Yeah,
(52:06):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair, you know,
because. How has it been doing with text?
I I saw you, you had some text there.
I've done some things with text.I haven't done a lot.
It's OK, Yeah, yeah, I, I'm, I'mstill trying to refine it
because like a couple, you know,I've run into a couple things.
I haven't, you know, like I haven't run a shit.
You can tell like, well, I mean,these are the videos I liked,
(52:29):
right? But you can tell I haven't done
like a lot, a lot. That said, there are situations
like this where you could take alook at the prompt.
You know, this is based off an an image and then I'm trying to
get this thing to just stay still, right, The traffic light
itself. And I think that's where maybe
(52:51):
I've run into challenges so far that I'm still trying to
troubleshoot is like, how do I keep certain parts static?
I've called that out a few different ways and it'll still
move some of these things, right?
See a perfectly still traffic light.
Well, that's not perfectly still.
You know, this is motion high. So you're thinking, oh, maybe
try motion low. Same thing though, like you'll
get you'll get different like these are motion.
(53:13):
Let me see. Well, these are ones that I
liked. So let let let me actually.
Have you tried like, have you tried like saying the position
that the like the traffic light is locked in, like the traffic
light is locked in the, you know, right side of the image
during a static shot or something like that.
Sometimes that works like just keep being like straight here.
(53:39):
Yeah, like, I mean, there's a, there's like and, and this one
too, right? Where it's like, you know, I'm
trying to call out just this oneto, to blink on and off, right.
So. It's going to be.
Hard. Most of them were creating like
an additional 1 here, right, which was which was tough.
I will tell you this, though, toyour point of like kind of like
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categorizing something, this works really well.
Like when you're just trying to like, let's say you got a four,
five photo. Now I want this to be 16-9, but
I want her on the right. OK, if you don't specify
anything, mid journey's going tothrow some random shit in here.
(54:20):
But what works extremely well for this is just saying left
side of the image is empty or right side of the image is
empty. Works really, really well.
So to your point, right, like maybe there's a way to apply a
similar logic with the video component, you know, where
something like that doesn't move.
But I would say, you know, like with, with text in general, like
(54:44):
this, like I, I got some pretty good results with this.
Like I was just trying to go forsomething pretty simple.
I got like some pretty wild results too, like this where
it's just like kind of crazy, you know?
Yeah, but there you. Go this was just, you know,
flashing or blinking. It wasn't anything crazy.
(55:05):
And I got like, you know, different kind of looks out of
that. But I think like the text part
of it's yeah, it's been, it's been fine so far.
I did like another one here where, you know, these these
record buttons are moving right?And for the most part keeps
those pretty good. Like there's one button in here
that kind of like changes a little bit.
(55:28):
Like you see this one and then this one is different for the
most part, though not like not really morphing too much of the
text that's, you know, and, and on this one, it didn't morph any
of my text. Even on the the ones I didn't
like it didn't. It didn't mess with any of the
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the words. Yeah, you weren't asking for too
much there. The the other one's a little bit
tougher with the with the amountof text depth.
Sort of like placement in space on the on the Z axis if you
will. Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot.
I mean, there's a lot going on there.
That's yeah, it's cool, though. I mean, like that's I want to do
more of it on the tech side to see what it can do because I
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haven't really, I haven't. I've only done like a little
bit. It hasn't been, it hasn't been
bad. It's just like I haven't really
gone that far with it. I'm I'm curious because that
would be another nice little usecase for it is to play with the
text, especially if you have trouble generating in here,
bringing some other stuff in andjust playing with it.
But maybe we need to do a. Maybe we just need to do like a
(56:31):
like a video. I I think we should, I think we
should go deep into trouble, yeah.
Like the troubleshooting, like live experimentation, coherence,
camera angle, you know, like, like we could, we could do a
whole sort of like show and telllive experimentation on that.
(56:51):
I think that would be a good one.
It's definitely needed because I, I honestly, I think like 70%
of AI video is understanding howto troubleshoot it.
Like it's like the, the prompting, like a lot of times
the, the models are good enough to make up for bad prompting on
certain things like like where images, you know, same way mid
journey can take like, you know,you know, it's a street style
(57:14):
photo of a bride and it's like, and it looks awesome.
You know, like takes over and does its thing.
Video can do the same thing, butit's also when you can't get
something that you want and you find you kind of run into these
sort of like roadblocks. What do you do about that?
So a lot of little hacks around it, a lot of different ways to
think about it. I think it'd be a good episode
for us to just like. I agree.
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I agree because I mean, like that's, that's where people are
quick to then say, oh, this doesn't work great.
But like, the reality is there'sso many of these little things
like we, we've you've talked about it a bunch with just like
the car example. We did that example too when mid
journey video dropped with the remember the girl walking down
the street and then going into adoor right?
Like you, you really have to like mechanically prompt these
(57:57):
things. Like I was doing one with a guy
running and trying to turn a corner.
So hard. Kind of hard, you know, like at
least from like a believable aspect.
Very hard like because you know,you get the running part and
then first you got to make sure they keep running the same way.
And then when they turn, they'renot going to run into a like
it's got to be a clean turn. They're not going to run into a
(58:19):
wall or run through a wall, you know, and.
And so like, yeah, a lot of thatdoes take a lot of trial and
error, you know, and like. It's it's not easy.
Baby not. Not a button pushing situation
so. Well, hey, I know we're, I know
we got to wrap up. We're we're a little tight on
time today, but I think we, I think we got a good one in
(58:40):
today. And then maybe what we'll do is
to your point, like go deeper into the video stuff, live
experimentation, show and tell kind of thing.
And yeah, go from there, but. If everyone is still here, you
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Every time, every time. Well, thanks guys.
(59:22):
Thanks everybody for joining us.We appreciate you guys.
We'll see you guys in the next one.
Have a great weekend. See ya.
What's up mid journey fast hourspodcast episode 48 Rory Flynn
Drew Rucker come in right at youon this Friday mid journey
update. We got video, we got smaller
batch sizes. We got some updates we'll share
with you there with office hoursnotes all that good stuff.
We'll talk a little bit more about kind of the new features
(00:21):
that are launched, some of the things that are upcoming and of
course we'll just kind of talk about how ChatGPT 5 is ruining
some people's lives and and their self respect so.
That's that's that's actually gonna be the thumbnail.
Chad GBT is ruining people's lives and self respect.
So that'll be that'll be a good one.
You guys can see it. We play the thumbnail game now.
(00:42):
We have to unfortunately, but that's the way things go.
But yeah, man, it's been. I'm just.
Fixing I'm loving my I'm loving my character caricature.
Caricature. Caricature.
Yeah, cuz they're fun. Like it just, it's just big
mouth for both of us cuz all we do is talk on this thing.
True, true. Hey, you ever seen the I think
where I got that idea from? It wasn't in my mind when I
(01:06):
started it. But do you remember the movie
Bulworth? No.
Not do I not remember it. I don't even I know what that
is. I've never.
Heard so it's it's not as much about the movie as it is the
song. Do you remember the song Ghetto
Superstar? Oh yeah.
OK, I'm pretty sure it's it was in it was from that movie.
If I can, if I can find this here, hold on, don't ask me
(01:27):
what. I like that.
I like that reference right there.
And I'll tell you another thing that reminds me of, you know,
Nate Dogg Regulate. All right, that was.
That was from above the rim. OK, so this is.
So I mean like those songs made for the movie.
I mean, don't sleep on it. This was the this was the
(01:48):
poster. Obviously not the same thing,
but I remember just like that big giant mouth I've.
Never seen this before. This feels like yeah, I've never
seen this. I don't.
I can't confirm. Let's see if just Google without
me having to go into was it ghetto superstar in a movie?
Bulworth. All right, there we go.
(02:09):
I was. I was.
What was this? What was this movie about?
I. Feel like it was a politician
movie, something about somethingabout politics I.
This is a movie you've seen. You've seen this.
If I've if I've seen it in full,it was 20 years ago.
OK, maybe. Which is so sad to think I was a
(02:29):
teenager. 20 years. Ago.
That should be a question. What is the Best Song that's
come from a movie? There's some good ones.
There's like I mean regulate above the rim is got to be top
five. I mean hustle and flow like that
was the Three 6 Mafia song. I forget what the what the name
of the actual song was that HardOut Here for a pimp that one.
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Now I'm going down the hip hop route, but there's a lot of
other there's a lot of other ones.
Are we talking? Are we even go?
Are we going to Disney too with like Elton John and I?
Think we are. I think we're going up.
Yeah, I think we're OK. Here we go.
I'm Chad, GBT 5 in this as we speak here.
So my heart will go on Céline Dion.
Titan All right. Lose yourself, Eminem, Eight
(03:14):
Mile. That was that was 4/8 mile.
I didn't realize that was I thought that was previous too,
but all right ranks. Well, this is saying used in
movies. Oh, no, wait, hold on.
Yeah, They were originally written for them.
Yeah. OK, so they were written.
Yeah, this is right. Team America.
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World Police, I mean. Oh, I don't.
America. Fuck yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty good. Eye of the Tiger Rock.
Oh yeah. All right.
That's got to be that's how's that not even like top?
Three. That's a good one.
That's a good one. I will always love you, Whitney
Houston bodyguard. Whoa, yeah, that was for a
(04:00):
movie. Yeah, the bodyguard.
Kevin Costner was a bodyguard for Whitney Houston in the
movie. Yeah, Yeah.
That's a new one on me. I didn't know that thought that
was. Skyfall, Skyfall by Adele and
the double that was yeah, that was a pretty good one it.
Was a good one. I didn't even know that was
Adele. I know this.
I know this song like by heart. I did not know.
(04:22):
That I'm not a Sam Smith guy fora lot of reasons, but he did a
he did a really good song on oneof the O 7 movies.
I can't remember which one it was, but it was epic.
Have you happened to come acrossthe Sam Smith Adele conspiracy
theory, which is like the funniest thing I've ever come
across. I have not.
I have not. Same, same person that they and
(04:45):
like they, they, this guy. I mean, it's, it's for
entertainment purposes only. Everyone I know I have to say
this stuff. Yeah, we're on we're on YouTube
here. That's right.
So the the guy does like a videobreakdown of all these people
and he just he just pitches their voice up or down and then
like you hear it and like matches.
OK, right. And then they like he's doing
(05:07):
like side by sides and then sortof like if you were gonna like
mash in like, you know, blend and mid journey, it's like.
Oh yeah, yeah. All right.
There was some some guy that does an impersonation and he was
doing it with, I forget the actor's name, but it's the old
guy that was in the Batman movies with Christian Bale.
(05:28):
Alfred, yeah, whatever that whatever that actor's name.
Yeah, he was, he was basic McCain and and then Matthew
McConaughey. He was basically saying this is
the same voice. Oh yeah, just.
Based on the Based on the pitch,which is which is kind of funny
too. But there's, well, I get, I get
hooked into a, you know, a little promo for, for YouTube
Shorts. I, you know, I get hooked into
(05:50):
YouTube Shorts and there's awesome content on YouTube.
For whatever reason, my algorithm just dominates.
Yeah, you were saying that the algorithm's good on there.
I found this one account that all he does is breakdown samples
of within like hip hop music andlike you know in house music and
things like that. So hope he did shook ones by
Mobb Deep and it was just like he like the three songs, like
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the notes or like the chords or like the verses, whatever it
was. Then they like break it out.
You know, they pitch it down, they trim it, they pinch it and
like you hear them all like individually and then they mash
it together. And I was like, this is such an
awesome idea for a page. I could listen to that.
I could watch that stuff all day.
Yeah, that's what I that's one of the main things I love about
90s hip hop. And the early hip hop was just
(06:32):
like all the work that went intomaking the beats through sort of
like this manual experimental, you know, this is what I have to
use kind of thing and I'm going to come up with something kind
of mentality. And the beats were just so much
better. I mean, I mean, you could come
up with something today and it'sjust like you just don't
appreciate. It's like that.
(06:53):
It's kind of like with AI. Same process.
No, the whole effort heuristic, right?
Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, OK, well this took 2 seconds to
create. So it's it's not as valuable as
it would be if I it took me 48 hours to create this thing.
It's a very similar process though, when you look at like,
all right, we're taking an imageand we're breaking it down, or
you're looking at a prompt on mid journey explore page and
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breaking it down, sort of takingthe tokens out like we've done
with a few of them, like like Dyad last week.
Dyad was, yeah. Taking those ingredients out,
flipping them around, remixing them, it's like kind of very
similar, you know, in in a process standpoint, not saying
that it's exactly the same, but it it feels creatively similar
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in that sense. But for sure the the one who had
not to go too far down the rabbit hole here, everyone, the
one who's one who's like just awesome.
I'm not a Kanye fan anymore because he's just at it.
Like, I don't know what happened, but like those early
Kanye albums, the 1st 2:00 the his production on some of that
stuff is so cool. Like he, you like those videos
(07:57):
that they're, you know, of him breaking down, like what what
he's doing in the songs and whathe's like sampling from and how
he's mashing them together. It's like if you're an artist of
any like format, you can't like not appreciate it.
Like take Kanye's name out of itand just like watch the process.
Like it's so cool for sure. Yeah, dude, I mean the cows
dropout still got to be one of the best.
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Yes, 100% late registration, whatever it is, those are
premium, premium quality music. Not anymore, but whatever we got
a lot. I'm sure you know we can we can
pivot back to AI after that. Well, let's go, let's go into
let's go into mid journey. Let's catch people up with with
what's going on, what's coming. You know, there was a office
(08:43):
hours Wednesday. We talked about a few different
things that they shared here. Smaller batch size videos
implemented. So now you can, you don't have
to get 4 videos back. You can choose one or two.
And I, I, I believe this is because I, I haven't done it,
but it's batch size 1 or batch size 2, I think from what I've
(09:08):
seen. Yeah.
So you could, so you could throwthose in there if you're, if you
don't want to run all four again, just from like a saving
fast hours generations kind of perspective, maybe that helps.
HD video modes now available to standard subscription tiers.
You know, I think if you're are,are on something like a standard
plan, I probably wouldn't spend a bunch of time running HD
(09:31):
simply for the fact of the, the cost is just so much higher
right now. And I think that cost will go
down over time. Yeah, well, it's a good move.
I mean, like, you know, I could burn through my entire months of
credits just working on one video, so it's nice to have it
just trimmed down to one. Yeah, HHQ, at least you.
Know yeah, I agree like that's so that's a cool that's a cool
(09:52):
move. And then, you know, mood boards
got their dedicated sidebar placement.
So I think the thought here, at least from what I had seen, was
that they wanted to they felt like it was a little hidden and
I I think it was So now they've got this in the tab here.
You click into this and I mean, it looks relatively the same
beyond that, right? Like you can just get into all
(10:13):
your mood boards are right here.That was.
That much needed as weird as that sounds very nice.
Yeah. It's hard to explain.
It's like, where do I find mood boards?
Well, it's in personalized. It's at the it's.
Underneath, it's just, it was just so buried, right?
I yeah, I mean like I, I, I probably will think about them
more now that I've got it in thesidebar.
(10:36):
It's definitely going to be. It's still my most used feature
I think at this point, beyond SRAF and everything.
I use it all the time. Yeah, if you, if you guys aren't
using those. I mean we there was a period of
time where it was pretty slow with mid journey other than mood
boards and I think we did like 3or 4 episodes just on mood
boards. Because it's like infinite, you
(10:58):
can go in any direction that youwant and you can really like,
you know, I keep finding new uses for it and I just, I love
it. So it it really does a great
job. I don't know if they updated it
recently but what's it What sorry?
Face said. What about me?
Freaking out right now. About me, Dad.
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OK, let's let's continue. Keep going Sir.
I think the other thing that they said was video thumbnails
switching to the show end frame and so the beginning frame.
Small thing there. V-71 better prompt understanding
and testing. Improved O ref capabilities are
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being explored, not promised explored.
Enhanced draft mode under consideration, features still in
early testing and tracking phase, and some V8 features
maybe back ported to V-71 or 7.2which I've never heard of before
just now. They were David was really going
in like I, I, I tuned in for maybe 20 minutes of office hours
(12:04):
and David was going in on version 8 and he was like, it
seems to be the heaviest focus of the call at.
Least yeah, yeah, they've, they've said, they've sounded
really optimistic about V8 when that comes.
I don't know if that's somethingthat's going to come before the
end of the year or not, right. I think that's the question.
But they're saying right, that'sthe that's the top priority.
(12:26):
At least that's what I've gathered as well.
Like from being on some of thosecalls is V8 feels like the top
priority, which kind of brings us back to that conversation we
were having last time, which is what does that mean V8?
Is it like, are we still talkingabout the same things in terms
of quality and coherence, you know, as being like, like the
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poster child for what V8 is going to be better at?
Or are we thinking about something that we haven't either
been told yet or haven't, you know, sort of fully vetted out?
Like, I think that's the the thing I'm most curious about,
like O ref, right? Like that being brought back up,
still being, you know, it's being explored.
But is that like how big of a focus is that going to be?
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Right? Because I thought O ref with V7,
right, we all thought was going to be completely solved and then
it's not. So like is that going to be a
big priority for V8, right? Like, I don't know.
We'll see. I I honestly think O ref has
gotten better. Maybe I'm just using it better.
I don't know. I I feel like it hasn't been you
(13:31):
know, obviously you can't throw a product in there If you're
you're anyone's listening to this thinking they can do that,
it's not going to work. You know, like anything with
text or has a logo or branding not going to work.
If you want to throw a couch in there, yeah, that'll work or a
car that'll work. But I was, I was I went down the
rabbit hole of of like doing it again.
I was building some more some like updated material for my
(13:51):
course on it. And it was so I kind of like
test all the different like variations of this.
Like I really hadn't done anything since it it since it
launched and I've just been using it in a rudimentary level,
but I, it I feel like it worked better.
Like, I don't know what I don't know because the last time I
tried it, it was very like I needed to balance the O ref and
(14:13):
the Exp values to like get something that looked like
relatively close. This time I didn't really need
to balance that much. I didn't really need to use Exp
at all. I just used O ref.
And if you know, a lot of it wasa lot of it was sort of like
figuring out what the point of anything over O, you know, O ref
400 or object weight 400 was like, I was like, is there any
(14:34):
real use for this over It doesn't seem to like really work
beyond that. It just like gets weirder.
So I was even testing with superhigh stylized values and I was
like, all right, S 1000, you know, O refs or OO weights.
I don't even what is it? Is it object weight or, or oh
wait, I don't even know what thehell to call it.
OW the parameter. Ow.
(14:56):
Ow it's OW, OW 750 and like, yeah, it's interesting because
it keeps, you know, the one thing I did find after running
like a million tests for anyone who's here and nerding out on
ORF. But the closer the lower you go,
the less of the the less of the input image gets pulled in, the
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higher you go on on OW. Like if you go OW 1000, it pulls
in backgrounds too. Like I was I was intentionally
doing like a guy on a white background, like using him as
the a ref, right, like stark white background.
And then like the test sort of like place him in an
environment. I was putting him in a low light
dark alley. So I wanted it all to be dark to
(15:38):
see if he would illuminate. And then by like owa thousand
like the he's like basically standing against the white wall,
like getting the flash. The camera is super bright, so
if anyone's test playing around with that side quest we just
took on O ref. That was just something that
came up when I was testing is. Like I wonder, I wonder how many
(15:58):
people are using it right now Because like I completely like
once I understood what it was kind of doing, I was like, I'm
probably not going to touch thisfor a while.
I think anyone that wants to usea video, right, like anyone's
trying to create like a little bit of a project in mid journey
or build a world or make a storywith the video stuff like you
need consistent characters. So like the, you know, the thing
(16:21):
what I found is lower O lower O weights for changing clothes
seems to work better too. So the lower ow between like 50
and like 150 seems to be pretty good for changing clothes and
keeping everything consistent. But there's so many variables to
it, which is what makes it hard,right?
That's what even when I was. Hard.
Yeah, it's harder than it needs to be.
Yeah, it was like, OK, what happens if I want to change his
(16:44):
clothes and change the environment and change his pose
and change his action? Do I use a style reference?
Do I use, you know, image reference?
Do I use like? So it was, it was definitely
interesting to sort of go down that experimentation path.
I hadn't done it in a long time and it was just like.
It can feel like it can feel like a puzzle in a journey
(17:05):
sometimes, right, 'cause it's like, well, what is the, you
know, what is the best Ave. to do X?
You know, and I mean, we used totalk about this all the time,
but it's like there's probably four or five ways to do just
about anything in mid journey. And sometimes 4 of of the five
won't work. And it's the one, the one way
that does that you kind of need to know, right?
(17:26):
And so it's just like the idea that you kind of know the
different paths to potentially get what you're looking for, but
still still kind of gives you pause.
You still gotta like pause and think about every single time
you do something, especially even haven't done it in a while.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause I'm not really like I feel like my my
intention with mid journey isn'tstory anymore.
My intention with Mid Journey islike, I want to go and just
(17:49):
create stuff and like go and like keep branching into the
multiverse of my ADHD versus like, you know, telling a story,
which you know, you can do. I just haven't like really been
attacking it that way as of recent.
It's been more of like my creative outlet.
I yeah, right. That's kind of been my my thing
as well, yeah. But the capabilities are there.
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But I'm, I'm, the way that they're talking about version 8
is reminding me of how they talked about video when it got
close, where it was like they were like, well, you could tell,
you could tell there was like some, some good stuff going on,
you know? Yeah, V7 didn't have sort of the
fanfare that they're talking about with V8.
I mean, V8 sounds like almost like what that V6 kind of kind
(18:36):
of feeling when you went from, you know, the way they they and
there was a big jump there, right there was yeah.
I mean, so V8 focus, I mean V2 video model planned after V8
completion. So I mean, that's we're we're
still talking a while away here.Most long term projects remain
confidential secret projects still secret style explorer
(18:57):
feature. So this feels like maybe the
next thing that's coming targeted release by end of the
month, but it's possible that that goes beyond month end.
So we're talking somewhere between 2:00 to four weeks for
that. But outside of this note and
brief little things I've heard on office hours, I don't know
(19:18):
shit about what this means. What is what are, what are we
talking about? What is Style Explorer?
I I don't know what it is. So that's where I dropped off.
I dropped off the call right as that, right as I was getting
like someone had asked the question and I feel like the
question someone asked was like,is this going to put people out
of business who are selling style codes?
(19:38):
And David's like I didn't know people were selling style codes.
And I was like, I was like, well, yes, people are.
And they're, you know, it's, it's basically some people's
like entire business models, which is just style codes.
So it's I, I'm, I don't know how, I don't even know how I'd
want it, to be honest. Like how would you want, I feel
like you use them like you like them a lot and like, you
(20:02):
probably use them way more to their capacity than I do.
But if you had, if you had it, what would you want it from it?
Like if it was you, up to you. I don't personally, I don't, I
don't know that I, it feels likea like a need because I just go
(20:23):
in and unlock my own and I thinklike I've unlocked enough where
it's like I probably don't need to go looking for something.
I've probably already got it somewhere.
Well. If you are, I mean.
Like the 1% of style code generators.
Yeah, for sure. I wonder where I'm at on the the
list. I've I've, I'm probably up
(20:44):
there. I don't know, man.
I, I just think like the way that I would think about style
Explorer in the way that I wouldwant it to exist almost
coincides with a bigger vision for just community leverage in
(21:05):
the sense of like, maybe these are the style codes that are
trending and maybe that swaps out each day.
Maybe there are quick filters that you can find.
OK, cool. But like there's not I, I, I, I
don't there's 4 billion codes. So style explorer, what are you
going to type in blue? And then you've got 500 million
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style codes to go through blue illustration.
Now I've got 50 million to go through.
Like, So what are we, you know, like, what are we talking about?
I I like some categories, maybe like.
So I mean like depending on that, no matter how far down you
filter it, you're going to have so many, right?
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So so I don't know if this is like really cataloging all four
billion. I have no idea.
But I'm thinking about in terms of it would be fun from a
community aspect where this kindof rolls into things like
tokens. What are some trending tokens
right now? What are some trending style,
you know, or maybe this is a part of the community where you
feature individual people and you say, hey, look, these are
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Drew's top five style codes for the month of blank, right?
Like where it feels like a little bit more of a community
aspect leverage. Same with the token side, right?
Maybe there are things that are shared amongst the group and it
also leverages the community or voices in the community.
I think that could be a cool play.
That's how I would want to see it kind of take place and, and
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almost kind of be a part of thisbigger community social profile,
you know, kind of conversation. To me, it's not necessarily
about finding the the exact style because it's like, OK, I
mean, I could, we could do that.We could find that.
So just like sort of reorganizing the explore page to
fit style exploration, if that is that sort of the idea, like
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where it's trending hot of the week, hot of the month, hot of
the whatever could be, you know,could be it's.
Interesting. I wasn't thinking of it like
that, but I I think that would be cool, yeah.
I mean, the infrastructure's already there for that.
I don't know how they pull that data, but I guess it's, I guess
that would make sense. I mean, do you think like do are
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people really using a lot of other people's styles or is it
more like a personal thing? I think so.
I think so. I'm I'm getting ready to release
a style code thing. I'm dropping, I'm dropping one
that's focused just on the best ones.
So I've probably shared, you know, I don't know, 1000, you
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know, just across my social profiles over time.
And I mean, the reality is like,it does take a lot of time to
find really good ones. And so like I've put a bunch of
those existing ones, probably like 90% of them in my in my
guiding course. But then I'm thinking, OK, like
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let's, let's really get to like the good stuff.
And I think that's where it's like, I, I do feel like people,
people want that. There's some people that just
don't want to spend the hours mining stuff.
It does take a lot of time to find them.
And then you've got third party libraries, but like I've seen
other style code libraries and like they're OK.
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Just listing. Maybe I'm just a little, maybe
I'm a little snobby with it, butI'm just like, I like it Looks
like you just kind of pulled style codes and you posted them
right where I'm like going through and I'm like, Nah, like
9 out of 10 of these ain't goingto work for what I'm going to
actually show, right. And so I think like the curation
aspect is maybe the key of that,but it's.
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Definitely, you definitely need to curate them.
The only problem is I feel like I've probably passed over like
probably 200 good ones because whatever I generated just didn't
catch my eye. But it probably works better
with something else. Bro, I found, I found one the
other day. I would have to go searching for
it, but I thought of you instantly.
It was the most gruesome and disturbing style code I've seen.
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Two actually two of them. So the one had like blood and
splatter on just about every image.
I was like, yeah, not seen that before.
They harvested. Maybe I'll go look, maybe I'll
go look for it while we're whilewe're on this, but.
They harvested my P code for that one.
They're just like, let's just make this a style.
We we took this guy's survey results and we turned it into a
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style code. That's what we did.
The most unassuming, you know, serial killer of all time,
apparently, like, doesn't even know it himself.
Yeah, so we know, but we know. It's like minority or they know
what you're gonna be before you're before.
You're yeah, they're seeing intomy future.
That's a, my problem with style codes is I always feel like I
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get to, they're like my, they'relike my creative spark.
So like when I really have nothing going on up top and I'm
in there, it's like, all right, I'll just mind the style codes.
You know what I mean? It's not like my, it's never
like my first thought. It's like, I want to go in there
and find some cool stuff. It's always like I'm trying to
get something. It's not working.
I'm like, I'm hitting like a creative wall and then I'm like,
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all right, style codes, let's just run those, see if something
jumps into my mind. And then I'm like, wait, I have
to organize these. I'm like, all right, That's
that's my only thing. I always like when I when I do
the big runs or I get into it and I dedicate like an hour to
it. I always find bangers.
But it's like, you know, hey, again, the ADHD just goes so far
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in the other direction. Can't stay focused.
It's too hard. Tedious process.
I know, I know. But so with that stuff putting,
I think like, you know, putting a bow on it feels like I like, I
sort of like the idea of, I likethe idea of this sort of a
community approach that you're suggesting.
I also want to like search for certain categories.
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Like I just want to look for photorealistic stuff.
Like I want to be able to like do that cinematic whatever face
crying in the background just soeveryone can, you know, she has
to say hi to everyone. But like, I would love to just
like look at it in that lens every once in a while so I could
just filter it and don't have tolike test it, you know, like to
test all these other codes to see if they can do what I want
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to do. Does that make sense though?
Like I, I want some of my manualwork to go down sooner or later.
It's too much. But yeah, it's I think it'll be
cool. OK.
You know, they always do. They always do stuff, you know,
mid journey TV. If you told me they were going
to release that two months ago, I'd be like.
Yeah, mid journey TV baby. Yeah, yeah, right.
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I think like maybe also part of the style code thing is it's
kind of cool right now because you don't really see generally
speaking, everybody using one ortwo style codes.
And I think like, I like that, right?
Because no one owns the style codes, but you also don't want
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to like everybody using the samething.
Like, I mean, it's like, so fromthat exclusive like exclusivity
standpoint, like if you're goingto use a, you're trying to find
a cinematic 1, I mean, you'd probably like to find one that
not really many people know about, you know what I mean,
versus one that everybody's using, right?
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Because then it it all starts tokind of look together.
Look like a treasure hunt, you know, like it's like that that's
like to me, that's like 90% of it, maybe more.
It's just like finding them yourself and being like that's
cool. It's random, you know, like
that's the to me, that's like the intriguing part is like it
is like a little like Easter eggs, like hidden throughout mid
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journey system. I I really want to go find this
gruesome 1. Are we going to get, are we
going to get dinged for, uh, inappropriate content on, on
YouTube? Yeah.
Not like our little. Not like our little that guy
that you ran with the face, withthe holes as the eyes.
Oh my God that was dude that wasso creepy.
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Why do we end up going down likea gruesome?
Rabbit, that was why. Like it's like .2% of what we
probably both generate and it somehow ends up on here.
It's is it because it's scary? That one, that one was wild.
What was that homesteader? Homesteader Yeah, with the, you
know, then we then we ran video.Of course, we had to keep
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pushing the envelope on it. Jesus, Homesteader.
Yeah, great prompt for anyone. Great token.
You know you should all go. Try.
Found it. Found it.
Pull it up. Roll the tape.
OK. Oh, that's all right.
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Yes. This looks just like my.
I mean, what if look at this allright?
I mean. It would definitely make some
cool video. Look at I mean.
You got a chainsaw, all right, OK.
Let's run this. Give me, give me, give me
something, brother. What do we got here?
Let's do. Let's do.
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Let's do homesteader. Homesteader 100% let's do child
in a mask. That should be that should be
creepy. Yeah, nightmare fuel.
Nightmare fuel. I wonder if it'll like
counteract it like it'll be likehappy do flower.
Jesus Christ Superstar flower. Do.
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Rage Against the Machine. Throw a nun in there for your
for old time's sake. None.
So just like straight up none ornone with.
The gun. None with the gun.
None with the gun. What else?
Trying to think of things that are happy ice cream.
Yeah, there you go, Sunday fun day.
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Sunday fun day. Let's see.
What else? What else can we come?
Up with movie poster Care Bear. Care Bear.
Wow, that's one that I wasn't expecting to ever hear on this
show. Ever.
What are what are the Pokémon creatures?
Yeah. All right, let's run this.
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I love running like a little DXPtoo, so let's do that.
Oh, this would be yeah. So I mean like, dude, this was I
was like, this is kind of this is kind of wild.
So in true, in true fashion to the podcast, we we have all this
one stuff. This was the other one.
This one isn't like this one is a gruesome.
That's cool though. But it's it's dark vibes, right?
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It's got that hazy, that hazy vibe aesthetic, like that hazy
light. Yeah.
I like that, looks like it has deep depth of field also on a
lot of these. This and this was a good, this
was a good one. Yeah.
Love that one. You'll have to pop me that one
in the chat. I like, I like to.
I want to play with that. I got you.
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I'm a blender. I like to blend all these things
with all their shit. There we go.
OK, homesteader, not looking as bad as my P code, but that, that
one's kind of wow, odd. What the There we go, That's
what I'm talking about. Just throwing a little Exp in
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there child in the mask. Not as crazy, I'm sorry.
So we get we're getting like lowangle close up on all these.
OK, what the? What?
What is? That's wild.
That one's kind of. Cool, my God.
Yes, I've seen that character before.
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It likes to default to that typeof character.
It's weird when it goes, when itgoes horror.
That's that's weird. You got some.
You got some interesting ones here, my friend.
Crazy. Flowers didn't do anything bad
to it. All right, 'cause I was gonna
make like little demon heads in flowers and stuff.
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Like that little blood on there.Little blood splatter on the
flower. Rage Against the Machine's a
good token I might have. To I love Rage Against the
Machine token. This is like one of the ones I
use for style code exploration. That is a good one I think.
Very open-ended, but also kind of legit.
Yeah, none with the grand. Nice.
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So yeah, you get like this whitemask, face ice cream and a
little blood on it. Yum.
Oh, Yum. Exp.
That's the Exp 10 all right. Yeah, EX P/E XPIII mean I dude,
I'm I, I think since Exp dropped, I'm not sure I've run
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anything without Exp as a print,really.
Or permutation. Permutation, yeah, I don't think
like not even once. I I always do zero and at least
one like at least one stop. I have not.
I've only got like when It's only when I'm trying to do like
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ridiculous things, if that makes.
Sense Oh really? I'm using it like it's.
It's great. I got to use it more than I just
say it. What is this album cover?
Yeah, these are wild. Do you find yourself using
stylize less? I don't use it at all.
I mean I just my default is 100.I don't even touch it anymore
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because I already know what happens when I do.
Blue and pink. Blue and pink.
So I just are you? Still ranking on your
personalize? Are you still?
Ranking like I, I mean, I did after that for a while, but I
haven't in a while, no. I did the other day just to like
see if it would change stuff because it was getting a little
bit too one direct, you know, 1 sided.
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Yeah, I did probably ranked like200 images change it a little
bit more. Yeah, I was.
Oh my God. What in the Pikachu is that?
That's a Pikachu I want no part of.
It is. What the?
That's like the upside down. You see what I'm saying?
I mean that's but like for S refcode.
That's pretty gruesome bro. I I mean, I haven't seen, I
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haven't seen anything like. That what's what is it go to
that one with the cross in the mid that.
This. That I like that.
This one. You got the black, red crisp
white that is dude's eyes. Got like jaundice as hell.
Like that is a really random image, but I like it.
Really is. Yeah, This is why the this is
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what my survey answers say is that this is what this guy
likes. My God, yeah.
So that one's that one's wild. So if you're into deep dark
stuff, say hi to Rory and use that style code.
I think we got to do a micro decisions episode again soon
too, just to like, I like that and have fun on here again with
the now that we have we have like so much more than we did.
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That was like, what was that February when we did that maybe?
Yeah, yeah, it was a while ago. That was a.
Lot more now, yeah. It was a while ago.
That was a long time. This is dude.
You have to wait. Hold on, wait a minute rollback
keep going. There was one that always looks
really funky yes, that one with the face the guy the right is it
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gets all colorful. You know I like that stuff right
the right about four in from theleft on the top row of the the
colorful painting style. No or sorry, four in from the
right. That one, yeah, yeah.
This is like a carpet texture too.
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Interesting. Yeah.
Is that in the? Is that in the whole style code
itself? Yep.
Yeah, it's got like an embroidered.
It doesn't have like an embroidered texture.
Yeah, I like this one. This is in the.
It's in the pack. Low key Americana great token.
Love Americana? Works very well.
Yeah. That one, what was the other
one? He's what?
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Was he a brand name? dribble.com album cover?
Movie poster Americana Rage Against the Machine I like to
use all All is fair in love and war a little bit too.
I get some good stuff out of there.
Rage Against the Machine. I already said that.
The work is mysterious and important.
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Yeah, yeah, actually I haven't used that in a while.
The what other ones I got in here.
Yeah, there's that. Cosmic Dreams is like another
good one. Chromatic aberration I use.
I like that one, I've used that one a bunch.
I'll usually use like the same I'll usually use like the same 5
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or 6 and then I'll I'll come up with like 3 or 4 new ones each
time I run a badge just to kind of see if there's like
something, something else out there it.
Just looks so neat and organizedbecause it's all it's all.
Yeah, I mean, really. Yeah.
Did it say I I wish I, I wish I did it more.
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I just don't. This one's kind of crazy.
I don't even know what you call this.
It's like. It's like wireframe.
Yeah, like what do you, what do you call that?
Oh, I like that. I like those textures like yeah.
It's sick. Yeah, it's like, like what's
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the? I don't know what the Yeah, I
don't know what the name of it is.
I'll have to ask ChatGPT. Well, Speaking of that, how have
you been? How have you been appreciating
GPT 5 since the Since the? Yeah, you were, I mean you were
saying that maybe like the personality of it's kind of been
sucked dry a little bit. I like in terms of the output, I
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don't feel like I'm getting anything different than I was
before. And I mean that probably in like
a good way. I guess like I was pretty happy
with four O, I mean, four O was great.
And I feel like just with how much you and I use it, right?
It's just like it, it only gets better because you've compounded
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all these learnings about you orit's got all this context,
right? And so like the more you use it,
the better it gets. You do that, you have some
custom instructions, you've got projects, you've got GPTS like
so I mean, you could pretty muchdo most of anything that you
want in there. And like, I mean, relatively
speaking to where we are with the tech, right.
So I, I like, I don't really feel any differently with five.
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It's kind of like I I feel like the way that it was hyped again
to, you know, Chad JP TS got or open AIS got this whole so sort
of playbook of like way over hyping and yeah.
Over the Protestant like shit and pretty soon like you're
going to be the little boy who cried wolf and no one's going to
give a fuck. It's like Sora, like it was like
this thing sucks. Look, if I look at the Sora in
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comparison to the other models right now, Sora has exceptional
quality when you can wield it. When are they dropping?
The second? They're coming up with the
second. It's coming soon.
I'm pretty sure it's coming in. I I feel like it's probably
coming in October. Feel soon, yeah?
Yeah, but they're, you know, it'll probably be good.
It's just like it. Just how can ChatGPT Image have
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such high coherence and Sora have the the worst coherence of
any AI platform? Yeah, it's interesting.
It's so random and it's bad because Sora has like Sora had,
you know, like remix that was like a remix was a stand alone
feature that did not exist untilnow.
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And you have Runway LF and you have the Luma situation.
I forget what it's called now that you can change the stuff
and now everyone can do it. But it was like they have like a
year run on that of like no one having a feature like that.
And it was like, OK, but you guys did nothing with it because
you can't prompt it to just say,like, guy walking to the left
without the camera, like spinning up into the universe.
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Yeah. Simple things guys, we don't
need a lot, but I. Wonder if mid journey, I wonder
if random, but I wonder if mid journey's going to go into the
sound game soon. I mean, you know, that's come up
on office hours a few times. They're like, ah, maybe maybe,
you know, I don't know, maybe not anytime soon, but it's just
like you feel like maybe you kind of have to given now that
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this is where you're in the space.
And I think that's going to be the next major drop for most of
these other ones that don't haveit is going to be sound.
Yeah, yeah, I think. It's inevitable, right?
I think it's inevitable, so why not?
'Cause I, I, I feel like, I meanlike VO dropped that when VO
dropped and they had dialogue that like changed everything
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you. Still made you stop.
Made you stop. How long though is that?
2-3 months ago, No one's been able to, no one's been able to
catch up yet. They're like they're, they're
already on to, to 4, You know, like 4 is probably just waiting
in the wings. They have enough data, they have
enough, you know, stuff to trainthat stuff on to make it better.
So, you know, like no one's evencaught up yet.
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And I think that's, it's such a we, I talk about this with the,
some of the companies that I work with them like they're
like, should we just use these other tools because VO 3 is kind
of expensive. I'm like, well, here's the other
process. If you don't want to use VO3 for
dialogue, you have to #1 create an image, then you have to
create a video. Then you have to go to 11 labs
and create a voice. Then you have to go lip sync it.
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Then you have to go sync it all together.
Then you hit. 6. Six extra steps to do it right.
Whereas, you know, if you want aconsistent voice for a
consistent character in VO, you just have to download the audio,
extract it and then, you know, change it in 11 labs and re sync
it back together. That's not crazy.
I mean, you can do this now on platforms like wevy relatively
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easy, but there's it's like that's such a game again, things
you didn't know you wanted, likewhen ChatGPT and flux came out
with, you know, models that detect well, it's like didn't
know I wanted it until I had it.Like I didn't know I wanted the
dialogue feature in there until we got it.
So that's, that's my end of my rant, But I, I think, I think
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that being said, it's the only way to go if you want to build
real, you know, real time world simulators.
You need dialogue and you need sound and you need all that
stuff to happen because it's toomany tools.
Yeah, Yeah. It's an interesting decision for
mid journey, not not only when you're going to do it, but how
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you're going to do it. Like because there was the idea
too that they were talking aboutof maybe we just start with sort
of non dialogue and sound effects, right, like wind
blowing feet, you know, stomping, you know, like stuff
like that. So you know, and in some cases
it like it really just kind of kind of comes down to what
you're creating and ultimately what you're using it for.
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I don't like to right now where we're at is the dialogue's great
from a maybe a storytelling social media standpoint, but
like for the most part, you're not using dialogue and finalized
products yet, you know, or, or final, final assets yet.
It's gotten there. You have to, you have to get it
into the right place though. You have to prompt for
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inflection and tonality and likeyou have to like actually
control it the same way you would like looking down to.
The well, that's what I'm sayingis like most of the time, like
the, the voice is too loud, you know, it, it, it, the, the
decibel level's too, too loud most of the time.
A lot of this stuff has to be done in post, but like I I'm I
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like how cling does it. Like if there's you know anyone
from mid journeys listening, I think it's just a good it
generates with the sound effects.
But when you download it, you have the option to download raw
file or with sound effects. Right.
So like. It's not.
It's not either or like I want to add sound on this as like an
option. It's just like if when you're
downloading, it's just the the MP4 file or the combined file,
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which I'm like, that's a smart way to do it.
So I don't have to like choose every time I generate.
But if I do, I want sound, do not want sound.
So I just add it in there. Yeah, MM audio is like nothing
like the to run to run that likeeffectively for every video.
I mean it's so cheap from a froma processing standpoint, so or
at least from my understanding and me running it on my own.
(45:35):
What have you have you have you played around with sort of
circling back to mid journey fora second with with the HD
function now? And let's let's kind of talk
about that for a split second. Like how, how has that been
received from you? Like are you using it?
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When are you going to use it? Is it a big difference in your
mind? Like what?
What are your sort of like firstreactions at?
I like it. Am I going to use it all the
time? Probably not because I like the
reason I like the having the the480P generations so I can test a
bunch and just like like play around like I'll probably use it
as like AI don't want to say like an upscaling type option,
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but I've I've tested it a bunch of times.
I like it. It looks really good.
I think it's like right on par again with a lot of the best,
you know, a lot of the best tools, just not I'm not going to
like go to mid journey first forsome specific things, if that
makes. Sense, yeah.
What about the idea though that you can't?
I mean like is there's not a wayto take a standard definition
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video and turn it to HD on mid journey though?
No, I was thinking they should do this like like how they have
in draft mode, you know where it's like, oh, convert to like
full whatever it is full. There you go, like that.
An easy way to sort of like. You know, because it's like,
because then you're just like, oh shit, I generated this in SD.
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It should have done it in HD, right?
So now I'm, you know, kind of fucked from in the platform
standpoint of doing it. It'll be it'll be different, but
I mean, it's still just like sort of the same, if that, you
know, that's how I would go about it too.
Like if you're, unless you're just like doing manual prompt or
automatic prompting for your videos, like if you're doing
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manual prompting, majority of the time, if your prompts are
good enough to the video is going to be fairly consistent.
They're not going to be too varied in terms of like you're
generating a grid in 480. So sometimes it's easier to do
that, test if it works before you go and spend the credit on
the on the fast hours on, you know, doing HD because that'll
you'll burn through. You burn through.
Quickly, I I did, yeah. I was like, the day came out.
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I was like, oh shit, I got to stop.
How are you? How are you?
What's your what's your take on,you know, the the manual edits
with mid journey in terms of like coherence, maybe even
extending videos, right. Maybe this is like an
interesting thing to touch on islike what's the strategy for
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you've generated a video, now you want to extend it and you
want to provide, you choose to do it manually.
Do you need to keep the originalprompt in?
What parts are you leaving in, you know, or you just kind of
prompting for? Yeah, like the the only thing
that is important, assuming it'sgot all the information it needs
(48:33):
previously, Yeah. Right.
I, I think a lot of that stuff'soverblown.
I feel like it uses the prompts in the first if you're just
doing, you know, auto prompts, just taking your prompt and sort
of like probably applying it to its own system prompt and saying
like, all right, this is what the output's going to be.
But I've been manual prompting alot more.
It's very coherent, honestly. And you don't have to really,
(48:55):
unless you want to switch stylesand you want to switch
conditions. Meaning like if I have an
illustrated style and I want to make it like, you know, Griff, I
want to transform it into graffiti or whatever.
Like you don't really have to talk.
You don't really have to mentionthat in the prompt.
Like mid journey is already the best at style matching and
staying consistent. So it's it's not like you're
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telling it anything it doesn't know already.
It's already looking at it and saying this is what I can do.
So it's really focusing on like the action, like the action of
whatever is in your video. It's the subject, the camera
motion and sort of like the interaction of the environment.
I feel like people forget about that a lot of times.
You know, it's subtle things that make a difference.
(49:36):
You might just want to add like think about a car driving on a
wet road, right? Like it typically kicks up water
off the back of the tires, right?
Like when you when you see a cardriving on a wet Rd. like those
are some of the things that might might make it a little bit
more of a pop and make it look more real.
A lot of times so or, or just give it, you know, it doesn't
matter. It doesn't have to look
(49:56):
cinematic or real, but. Just let let me give you another
example though, like let's just say and I think that's a good
point with the details. I think what I'm getting at too
is like this, this kind of feelslike one of those things where
we're also talking about this kind of almost like with the
same way we did with in painting.
It's like, do you leave the whole prompt in there or are you
(50:16):
just sort of like calling the one thing out, right?
Because like when you just when you're thinking about the
prompts, right, it's like, OK, should I, should I leave in I
level shot? Well, I think for something like
that, you're thinking about what's the next scene gonna be?
But like something like street photography or do I need to re
prompt for who my, who my subject is?
Right, That's what I'm thinking.Maybe people are wondering and I
(50:40):
think I don't like I, I guess the way that I'm looking at it
is just from like a token standpoint.
I'm probably starting with the things that I'm, I'm looking at
the overall length of the prompt.
Like let's just use the example of like we're going to extend
this video. I'm looking at how many like
tokens I've got in here. And to begin with, if it's very
(51:02):
long, then I definitely want to trim some stuff out because you,
you still know that there's somesort of drop off after a certain
threshold. We don't know what it is, but
yeah, so, so obviously the, the fewer the better from that
standpoint. That said, like I'm, I'm looking
at the things that I may also want to reiterate, right, like,
you know, like young black male with tattoo, like I, I probably
(51:23):
don't need to leave that in there because I've already got
the subject in there, right, Butright, the action would be
different depending on the scene, You know, assuming
lighting's probably going to be the same unless you're changing,
unless you're transitioning, right?
So like. If it's going into a different
environment, most of the time it's good at picking that up.
But like, you know, if you're walking from outside to inside,
(51:46):
sometimes you want to direct that, like directly control
that, right? Those things to take into mind
into into mind into note. I, I was just trying to say
something and like I had like a operationalized moment.
Operationalization, Operationalization, Yeah, Yeah,
(52:06):
I think that's fair. I think that's fair, you know,
because. How has it been doing with text?
I I saw you, you had some text there.
I've done some things with text.I haven't done a lot.
It's OK, Yeah, yeah, I, I'm, I'mstill trying to refine it
because like a couple, you know,I've run into a couple things.
I haven't, you know, like I haven't run a shit.
You can tell like, well, I mean,these are the videos I liked,
(52:29):
right? But you can tell I haven't done
like a lot, a lot. That said, there are situations
like this where you could take alook at the prompt.
You know, this is based off an an image and then I'm trying to
get this thing to just stay still, right, The traffic light
itself. And I think that's where maybe
(52:51):
I've run into challenges so far that I'm still trying to
troubleshoot is like, how do I keep certain parts static?
I've called that out a few different ways and it'll still
move some of these things, right?
See a perfectly still traffic light.
Well, that's not perfectly still.
You know, this is motion high. So you're thinking, oh, maybe
try motion low. Same thing though, like you'll
get you'll get different like these are motion.
(53:13):
Let me see. Well, these are ones that I
liked. So let let let me actually.
Have you tried like, have you tried like saying the position
that the like the traffic light is locked in, like the traffic
light is locked in the, you know, right side of the image
during a static shot or something like that.
Sometimes that works like just keep being like straight here.
(53:39):
Yeah, like, I mean, there's a, there's like and, and this one
too, right? Where it's like, you know, I'm
trying to call out just this oneto, to blink on and off, right.
So. It's going to be.
Hard. Most of them were creating like
an additional 1 here, right, which was which was tough.
I will tell you this, though, toyour point of like kind of like
(53:59):
categorizing something, this works really well.
Like when you're just trying to like, let's say you got a four,
five photo. Now I want this to be 16-9, but
I want her on the right. OK, if you don't specify
anything, mid journey's going tothrow some random shit in here.
(54:20):
But what works extremely well for this is just saying left
side of the image is empty or right side of the image is
empty. Works really, really well.
So to your point, right, like maybe there's a way to apply a
similar logic with the video component, you know, where
something like that doesn't move.
But I would say, you know, like with, with text in general, like
(54:44):
this, like I, I got some pretty good results with this.
Like I was just trying to go forsomething pretty simple.
I got like some pretty wild results too, like this where
it's just like kind of crazy, you know?
Yeah, but there you. Go this was just, you know,
flashing or blinking. It wasn't anything crazy.
(55:05):
And I got like, you know, different kind of looks out of
that. But I think like the text part
of it's yeah, it's been, it's been fine so far.
I did like another one here where, you know, these these
record buttons are moving right?And for the most part keeps
those pretty good. Like there's one button in here
that kind of like changes a little bit.
(55:28):
Like you see this one and then this one is different for the
most part, though not like not really morphing too much of the
text that's, you know, and, and on this one, it didn't morph any
of my text. Even on the the ones I didn't
like it didn't. It didn't mess with any of the
(55:48):
the words. Yeah, you weren't asking for too
much there. The the other one's a little bit
tougher with the with the amountof text depth.
Sort of like placement in space on the on the Z axis if you
will. Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah. There's a lot.
I mean, there's a lot going on there.
That's yeah, it's cool, though. I mean, like that's I want to do
more of it on the tech side to see what it can do because I
(56:10):
haven't really, I haven't. I've only done like a little
bit. It hasn't been, it hasn't been
bad. It's just like I haven't really
gone that far with it. I'm I'm curious because that
would be another nice little usecase for it is to play with the
text, especially if you have trouble generating in here,
bringing some other stuff in andjust playing with it.
But maybe we need to do a. Maybe we just need to do like a
(56:31):
like a video. I I think we should, I think we
should go deep into trouble, yeah.
Like the troubleshooting, like live experimentation, coherence,
camera angle, you know, like, like we could, we could do a
whole sort of like show and telllive experimentation on that.
(56:51):
I think that would be a good one.
It's definitely needed because I, I honestly, I think like 70%
of AI video is understanding howto troubleshoot it.
Like it's like the, the prompting, like a lot of times
the, the models are good enough to make up for bad prompting on
certain things like like where images, you know, same way mid
journey can take like, you know,you know, it's a street style
(57:14):
photo of a bride and it's like, and it looks awesome.
You know, like takes over and does its thing.
Video can do the same thing, butit's also when you can't get
something that you want and you find you kind of run into these
sort of like roadblocks. What do you do about that?
So a lot of little hacks around it, a lot of different ways to
think about it. I think it'd be a good episode
for us to just like. I agree.
(57:35):
I agree because I mean, like that's, that's where people are
quick to then say, oh, this doesn't work great.
But like, the reality is there'sso many of these little things
like we, we've you've talked about it a bunch with just like
the car example. We did that example too when mid
journey video dropped with the remember the girl walking down
the street and then going into adoor right?
Like you, you really have to like mechanically prompt these
(57:57):
things. Like I was doing one with a guy
running and trying to turn a corner.
So hard. Kind of hard, you know, like at
least from like a believable aspect.
Very hard like because you know,you get the running part and
then first you got to make sure they keep running the same way.
And then when they turn, they'renot going to run into a like
it's got to be a clean turn. They're not going to run into a
(58:19):
wall or run through a wall, you know, and.
And so like, yeah, a lot of thatdoes take a lot of trial and
error, you know, and like. It's it's not easy.
Baby not. Not a button pushing situation
so. Well, hey, I know we're, I know
we got to wrap up. We're we're a little tight on
time today, but I think we, I think we got a good one in
(58:40):
today. And then maybe what we'll do is
to your point, like go deeper into the video stuff, live
experimentation, show and tell kind of thing.
And yeah, go from there, but. If everyone is still here, you
know you know the damn deal. You better like and subscribe.
You know the damn deal. You know the damn deal.
Tell your mom. Tell your friends.
(59:00):
I feel like we always forget to just throw that at the
beginning. We should just do it at the
beginning. If you're still here though,
just just take .2 seconds. Just hit the, hit the button.
Just, you know, that's it. Still, it's a little token of
appreciation for listening. It's tradition now, though.
Yeah, it is. You know, wait till the end, see
what we say. Same exact thing every time.
Every time, every time. Well, thanks guys.
(59:22):
Thanks everybody for joining us.We appreciate you guys.
We'll see you guys in the next one.
Have a great weekend. See ya.
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