Moving forward while leaving your wild dance moves behind

Will & Max recap their Mother's Day road trips and their evolving relationships with aging parents; how to rally as a midlifer for your younger friend's wedding bash in Mexico; making the leap to transition to a new career in midlife. 

Thanks for listening--keep on marauding!

Episode Transcript

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Only last time both of us were gonna go see our mothers

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for Mother's Day. So how didyour trip go? Ah, yeah.
Okay, so Mother's Day, Mother'sDay is always interesting. So I
usually go home, my home meaningfrom the DC area to Winston
Salem, North Carolina to visitmy mother. And invariably

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always, before I get there, Ialways get a call. Well, son,
you don't have to come if youdon't want to, you know, because
I used to, butIs she serious? Or is she? Well,
I don't know. Because my mom isdead serious. She's like, I
don't want you driving on 95 Idon't want to do risking your
life. Right and driving thatroute forever. Right? Say?

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Yes. Sayshe's saying that just to kind
of let you off the hook. But shereally wants to see you.
Well, she definitely wants tosee me for sure. I'm not sure
why she does to be honest withyou. Because it doesn't work. I
mean, if you know if I don'tmake the effort to go see here,
then the chances are I won't seeher. You know, God bless my

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mother. She's I don't reallywant her driving up and down the
road to be honest with I'll justdo it. So my No, Mom, I got it.
No big deal. You know, I hatethe drive. I'll be honest. And I
tell her that all the time. Andbut you know, something you got
to do? Try to be a good son andI do it. How

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long do you go down for?
See? I stayed a little longerthan I normally do. So I think I
got there Saturday, and I lefton the phone Thursday. Okay,
that's a good amount of time.
Yes. That's, that's the longestI spent with my mother in quite
some time. And it was good. Backin the day, you know, when I was

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in my 20s 30s 40s Maybe? We wecouldn't have existed that long
together.
It'd be harder. Yeah, wechanged.
I think we just both kind ofjust, just just like, you know,
just, it's not worth it. Youknow, we'll, we'll get into

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little tips, per se. already.
Yeah. But just to just let itgo. Like, alright, my you got
it. You know, it's not that bigof a deal. Blah, blah, blah. You
know, I'm, I'm in her home. Youknow, I'm on her time doing what
she wants to do. And you know, Ijust I enjoy being with my
mother. I love her. So thelittle petty stuff. You just

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gotta let go. Yeah,it totally messes with my
parents schedule. When I go downthere. Maybe that's also why
they like don't come. Oh,really? screw up my schedule.
Yeah, I mean, they like it. ButI think a lot of energy, right?
Like, if you if your normalroutine is just to be at home
most of the time and watching TVand no stress, you know,

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stressful, I think to change upyour schedule.
Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean,it's quite, I mean, I'm sure
it's a lot different for me.
It's just me, and I brought thedog with me this time for you
YouTube, but now with our withyour family, though, right?
Well,this time I just went by myself.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay, like onetime I went down, and I was with
my kids, but I took my mom tosome park, and we were walking

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around, and then she got reallytired and dizzy, because she
doesn't go out that much out inthe sun. Right? So that was
scary. You know, like, oh, mygosh, you know, I don't want to
push you too hard.
Right? Yeah, that's that'shappened to me a couple of
times, or we've gone off forwalks, we went out to a park at

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a quarry one time and you know,just realized that, you know,
your, your, your parents and ourmoms in this case. They just
can't keep up with your pace andyou like you guys just remember
like, Okay, I gotta slow down,blah, blah, blah. And, you know,
always gotta be mindful of like,just moving a lot slower than
you are. So once you once youdeal with that, and understand

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that it's okay. For me, it takesa little while, like, you know,
like, What can she do this? Soshe's basically walking by like,
she just can't do it. Yeah,I mean, I do wish I would live
closer. I mean, do you feel likethat to that? At one point, you
did say you might move closer toyour mom. It's
a it's a reoccurring thoughtalmost every day like my mom was

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good. She doesn't have anysignificant health issues. Knock
on wood. So she's good. It'sjust, you know, I, for me, being
a single person. I don't reallyhave any obligation to be where
I am other than friends. Right.
So work, work, work. I could, Icould move around a little bit,

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but for me, it's like all right.
I'm no I'm going to hit thatpoint where I feel like
overwhelming obligation to becloser to my mom just just in
case. Yep. And she tells me allthe time. I'm good son, you
don't need to worry about thatright now. I'll let you know

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when that time comes. But Idon't want it to happen too
late, you know what I'm saying?
So. But yeah, I think about thatall the time.
Yeah, it's definitely a changeas we get older. I think it's,
you really appreciate yourparents, I think.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I,I don't know if it's physically

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possible. But it's almost likefor me, my love for my parents
gets stronger. Like every day,like I, you know, I remember
back in the day, like, I wantedto get away from,
you know what I mean, but Iguess that's the natural thing.
Yeah.
Yeah. You start to see their youknow, their frailties and stuff
like that. And you want to bethere for you know, I want to be

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a good son. Andyou understand, you start to see
all the sacrifices. Sure, sure.
Going up. 100%. appreciate themmore. Yeah,
100%. But I will say this lastvisit, she kind of warmed me.
And I just kind of blew it off,but not blew it off. But I
didn't take it that seriously.
Okay, we can do this. So, butshe did hit me with like, some

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when you come down here, I wantyou to review my, my will. And I
was like, Oh, I'm not a lawyerwhen I look at it, but okay. So
eventually she brings it out.
And I look at it and it's like35 pages, right?

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Did she just get it done? Or isshe had it for a while?
She just it was? for me? It waslike proofreading
it. Okay. And pages what? Yeah,where'd you get that template?
Exactly.
And some local lawyer there. AndI thought I knew that guy. I
thought I went to high schoolwith guy, but I don't think it
was the same guy when I saw hisname, but I'm looking through

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it. And she's named, she hasnamed me executor, and, and all
this and, you know, my sisterhas some responsibilities too.
But basically, it's just, youknow, leaving my me and my
sister, you know, my split ofwhat her assets and stuff like
that. So I'm just reading andreading and reading and you
know, it's legal, legal jargonand stuff like that, like,

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alright, mom looks good to me.
But but, you know, normally, Iwould say probably, if she had
asked me to do that, probablyfive years ago, I would have
refused. I would have refused,refused. Yeah. Because I would
have said, Yeah, my, just mytime. Yeah. Why are we looking
at this? You know, I mean, Idon't know. But I, it would have

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affected me to a point where Ican't think about, you know, the
outcome of this or whatever. Andnow I you know, I guess I've
matured a little bit orwhatever, and come to a
realization, okay, this isimportant stuff, you know, we
need to go through this,because, you know, let's say she
didn't have a well, then, youknow, the state could just take

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all that stuff or whatever, youknow, you hear these horror
stories about people that don'thave wills, and, and they wind
up losing, you know, whateverassets or losing some of their
assets or whatever. And so Iread through it to the best of
my ability, and I say, my look,you know, it looks fine. You
know, I, you know, if I wereyou, I mean you have a lawyer or

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whatever, I would have somebodythat knows a little bit more
about this process than I do.
But hey, whatever you statedwhat I needed to do, in this,
I'm cool with so, you know,that's what I was able to get
for her. No, but I am proud ofmy mom for, for having that. I'm
sure my father. I know he has awell, he's expressed that to me

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too. But he's never asked me to,to look at I mean, obviously he
has a wife and, and a couple ofkids down there where he is, but
you know, it was It felt good toknow that, you know, my mother
would kind of like, trust me tolike, take care of stuff along
with my sister when shetransitions. So no, I just got

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to deal with it. It's part oflife.
Didn't you go to Mexicorecently?
I did go to Mexico recently.
Yeah, that was my first time.
And Mexico proper. Where did yougo which city? Beach. It was
yes, it was Riviera, MayaRiviera Maya. We want to say. I

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think it's it's south of Cancun.
So a little south of Cancun. wasdown there for a wedding. Two
really great friends of minethat I really only known them
for I would say probably thelast four or five years, but we
have here in this area they livehere. Yes.

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And great, great friends. Greatcouple. They have two kids.
They've all been married beforethey have two kids one, one each
from the previous relationship.
They're in their early 40s. Soit's a little bit of a younger
crowd. I mean, of course theirparents were there and there
were other some other peoplethere that are a couple other

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people. They're they're in their50s but for the most part, their
early 40s, mid 40s. So some ofthem are, are knocking on the
door of their midlife. Yeah. Andwelcome, welcome. We love you
Love you all. Come on in thewater's fine. But yeah, so we we
all trip down to Mexico. I thinkthere were 30 of us on the plane

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down. And I think there wereprobably a total of 50 people
there for the wedding.
Obviously Nice. That's yeah, alot of people to fly down.
That was that was a you know,it's always a situation where
like, I was a little I was alittle scared because these

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people are partiers you know,I'm kind of a partier, too, but
you know, I thought it was gonnabe like a whole debacle the
plane ride down, but it was itwas chill that you know,
everybody went together on thesame flight error
for the most part. Yes, it'skind of Yeah, I think they're
out of the 50 They're probablylike I said 27 to 30 people on
this on that on that flight downand then you know, the rest came

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on a different flight or adifferent day but we got there
on Friday. And you know, it wason a resort beautiful resort we
all kind of just put our bagsaway got our swim clothes on and
and headed for the pool probablygot there around like 1pm 2pm

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Yeah, was there a beach to beachthere is a beach and the wedding
was the wedding was on the beachbut nobody was trying to see the
beach at that point. Right? Wejust jumped in the pool just
jumped in the pool was big, bigbig big pool like but it was
like a circuit are a series ofpools you know? Like a wave pool

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I want in and you know, aregular pool and then there's
pool that when and how to swimup bar of course. Of course, of
course. So we're all in the poolchillin blah blah blahs. Hot as
I don't know what out there was90 Plus. Everybody's bathing
suit game Trump game was onpoint which I

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knew it wasn't as one of thereasons you're trying to get
fit. Yes, yes.
Yes. Great point. So I I think Idid a halfway decent job. But
you know, you know, I'm lookingaround inspecting I how do I how
do I quit because I'm I'm alittle bit you know, I'm a
little older than most of them.
But I feel like fit was youknow, body check. You know, I

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was good. I mean, yeah, I mean,I didn't feel like my stomach
stuck out too much. You know, Idid a little pre pop in the
hotel room just to get themuscles activated a little bit.
And I felt like I was hanging inthere for sure. I did get put on
to a great tip. I don't know ifyou're a much more traveler than

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I am. I never heard of Imodiumbefore you're ever
in Oh, you mean for diarrhea?
Diarrhea,constipation, bloating, blah,
blah, blah. So somebody put meon like a couple days before you
got to take ammonia, you got totake ammonia and you're not take
oryou go for interesting before.

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And I I think that saved me. Ireally did. So. I've
heard a lot of people go intoMexico having issues with either
swimming in the water orsomething swallowing water.
Well, yeah, so Montezuma'srevenge. I think that's what
it's called. Yeah, um, yes.
Didn't happen to me, but I'llcircle back to that. So I was

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taking I popped there Modi andhe got to it in the morning as
preventative. And it worked likeI can take it preventative.
Yeah, it worked. I did not haveany stomach issues. And usually
when I travel it's a I thinkthere's a you know, what's his
name? Louie. Louie CK. He. Iremember one time he said, being

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in your mid life is a constantbattle between constipation and
diarrhea. And always now Alwaysthink about that. Yeah, always
think about that and then likethat Imodium? I think that saved
me. Like people get sick. Ah,yes, yes that I felt that I told

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them to take Imodium they didnot take it and then they wonder
what some stomach issues that wegot back. But that saved my
life. Well, they saved me frombeing on the toilet most of the
time. So anyway, pool we're outthere vibing swim up bar another
pro tip when you go to these allinclusive places, bring your own

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thermos or yetis.
Okay, and they'll fill it up.
They'll fill it up for my protip. Listen, give everybody
jewels out here today. Soanyway, we did that. That was
Friday. I think we went to maybelike, there was a sports bar

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there. So we just did that. Itwasn't a well, I did get drunk.
Let me rewind that. I did getdrunk and I got lost. I got lost
in the resort and the resortbecause I had only seen part of
the resort, right giant resort,right? So my villa or room was

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directly outside where the poolis the pool. Well, that system
of pools was right there in themiddle. And my building was just
like on the outside of it. Butfor somehow we went somewhere.
And I got turned around and Iwas behind the building on the
other side of the building.
Okay, and I couldn't see wherethe pool was. So I would just

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walk around and just, I walkedfor probably 3045 minutes just
starting to panic or know alittle bit a little bit. I found
a friend who got his jumped onGoogle Maps and kind of helped
me out with that. I wonder whata blister on my foot. It was a
hole hole. Yeah. Um, so that'show that night ended. So the

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second day, more of the same. Inthe pool, I swear, Max, I was in
that pool for probably eighthours. I mean, just standing
there talking drinks, football,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
eating anything. They did havedaily, some somewhat daily
activities. They had like somewater aerobics they had like

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some games where they were like,you throw things targets and if
you win nice, whatever littlecheesy stuff. So yeah, so then,
you know, had dinner. And thenwe went out to the karaoke bar.
Nice. Very nice. So I performedgin and juice. Man, nobody

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killed it. wrecked it, you wouldhave been proud of me do a
video. There is video. I'll sendit to you. So I was just trying
to think of a song that that Ikind of know the lyrics to. But
if I read them, I could get it.

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You know what I mean? And thefunny thing was, was like, this
karaoke bar, they were doing alllike, Spanish songs. And that's
a large group of us. You know,obviously, we don't want to
listen to Spanish music. And wegot to change up the vibe here.
So I was like, Alright, I'mgonna do gin and juice. On our

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bus. I go up there which and beyour height man. rocked it.
Right. That's awesome. Soanother buddy, he wants to do a
song. He wants me to come upthere and be his height, man.
It's like, alright, I'll come upthere and be right man. So he
wants he wanted to do scenarioby tribe and Buster and all that

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stuff. So we get up there and hesaid, Are y'all y'all do the
first little parts and whenbuses turn comes up, I'll do his
part. Alright, cool. So um, I'mdoing other parts. You know, I'm
doing cute to blah, blah. Youknow, Mr. BUSTA RHYMES, you
know, but Well, I hand him themic. And he freezes. He locks up

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heat. Well, he first of all, hecame in early. And I was like,
no banana. Yeah. And I took myback. And that's I didn't know
how to go. And he just likestage stage, right? Yeah. I was
like, Oh my god. So I had totake the mic away from him and
do the part that he wanted todo. It's funny. So yeah, it was

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it was fine. I want to see thatvideo hinting video. So then
somebody says, Let's go to theclub. So there was a nightclub
there. We had to cross like alittle road or something, but it
was still on a resort. And I getin there and there's a bunch of
cars. It's Memorial Day weekendand it's 18 down there to drink.

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So there's a bunch of teenagersdown there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
we're in there, and I'm dancing.
I'm dancing, you know my groove.
And then I had a realization.
Like someone tapped me on myshoulder and said, Well, it's
time it's time we'll, that youyou move, or you graduate over

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to the two step and just stickwith the two step.
What were you doing?
I'm doing because all right, letme give you my subscribers a
little, little background here.
I've always fancied myself as agood dancer. Okay. You know, we

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grew up in the 80s 90s blah,blah. You know, we're used to
dancing fast. We're used todancing for a long time doing
all the moves. You know, I youknow, at one point, Max, I don't
know if I've ever revealed thisto you, but I want it to be a
background dance.

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Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah,yeah. I don't think I ever saw
you dancing.
I used it when I was a DJ and Idanced all the time. I shut the
place down.
Tapped you on the shoulder withthis.
It was me. It was my like myconscious outside of my body. It
tapped me on my shoulder. Soperson. No, no, no, it was it

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was the midlife will kicked in,tapped me on my shoulder says
Hey, buddy. Hey, it's time, bro.
It's time.
But okay, so do you believethat?
I do now? I do. Because I don't,for some reason, or I don't know

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how I was able to do it. But Iwas able to examine me. Outside
of my body. I don't know how Inoticed that physically
possible. But I had a moment ofclarity. Like, bro, you're you
don't need to try to dance likethis.

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I don't know, is that a goodthing? I feel like, maybe this
is a time to be less inhibited.
You know? Like, maybe lose alittle bit more, maybe. But
that's not what I felt. I feltlike, it's time to just tone it
down. You're working up a sweat.
I checked my heart rate. It waslike, yeah, it was like 130 is

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like, it's just, bro. You know,you're not impressing anybody
anymore. You know? It's like,just having fun when
I was having fun, but like, thatwas fun bouncers, like, oh,
like, you know, I need to checkmy heart rate, like you can't

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have fun. Were you thinkingabout checking your heart rate,
you know, saying? Yeah, so itwas like, out of breath. While I
was getting tired, yes, I wasgetting tired. But, you know, it
was just like an epiphany. Like,okay, no one cares. What how you
dance. You're not You're notimpressing anybody. If anything,
you know. You just need to justhave a little drink. And just do

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a little two step. Like it'scool to look like you know, the
songs now because they wereplaying like modern songs.
That's still cool. You can lookcool doing it. But you don't
need to look cool. Trying to dothe dances. You're out of Abro
you're out of your lane. Justjust just do a little one to one

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to shuffle and you'll be fine.
So that was a you believe that?
I believe that now I believethat now? Yeah, I gotta I gotta.
I'm retiring the dancing shoes.
gonna hang him up. But thewedding was great. You know,
great pictures. fit check. MyFit could have been a little bit
better mom. My mom actuallyhelped me pick my fit. Wow. When

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I was down there, I said hey, Ineed to fit for the for the
wedding. And my mom picked myfit now. My mom and I have
different styles but what shehelped me fine. I thought was a
good look. Right? It was whitelinen pants and like a linen
shirt that had like a print onit. Okay,

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so like resort where resortwhere? Yeah.
And so sandals. So when thewedding came and I knew this is
gonna happen, I'm so stupid. Ijust like kicking myself. So
these are all like dudes againin their early mid 40s. You
know, couple of stragglers outthere in their 50s and they're

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fits. We're athletic fit. Okay,okay. So you know the you
know, Like a tight shirt? Well,I
wouldn't say like, tight tight,but like, you know, fitted cut,
you know, to their proportionsor their body. I not so much for

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me, I didn't realize this untilI got because my mother, she's
like, You need like flowing airbreathing stuff, right? So I
didn't really realize it till Isaw a picture. And so you see
what you're gonna say so youthere's a picture of all the

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guys and you know, everything'sathletic look fit good blah,
blah. Me with this, Billy? Sure.
That just that looks like it wasstrong when blue and it would
just take me away. Well, youshould have known not to your
mother, God bless her. Because Iknew I should have wore

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something more fitted. And soyeah, I hated that hated the
pictures of me after wedding.
Hey, hey, look, too.
Did they make you look away orsomething? Or, you know, like,
bigger than you?
I made me look like the shirtdidn't fit in with what was

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going on? Wow.
Okay, you look good.
I thought it looked fine.
billowy, biggest shirt on.
Everybody's like, you know, likethese nice printed shirts or
lemon? And it's like, it's funnythat
they all do the dress code. Didthey talk beforehand? Or have it

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just happened that they know,they just knew and I knew I'm
gonna be I knew I just gotdistracted, got distracted. And
I knew I should have known onlythat day. Right? And when I I'm
so happy that I I saw a lot ofpictures. So most of the

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pictures, I'm in the background.
Right? So I'm glad I did.
Because I didn't realize that atthe time. I'm just, this is me
looking back at the pictures.
But there's like one or twopictures I have standing in the
forefront. Oh,did anybody say anything? No,
they never opened down. I mean,probably did. They? You know, no

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one's gonna say well, what thehell? Why are you? You know,
because who cares about me atthis wedding? You know? I'm not
the center of attention. Butit's like, there's a couple
pieces like, oh, well, you knewbetter why you did that. So but
anyway, other than that,everything was cool. Wedding was
nice. There weren't too manysingle girls there.

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Well, that's why I was gonna askyou like, our age? Like, is it
still the same that you hook upwith somebody? Or you might?
I mean, I think that's notalways I think that's always the
case.
There were some single womenthere
were like two or three, but I'veknown them forever. This is
like, you know, I think maybethere was opportunity with one.

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But like, no, no, I was like,No, I'm gonna live to regret
that. So I started fast. Youknow, just you can have a good
time without that on your mind.
Like that. prevailing thought?
Yeah, I think. But no, it wascool. Like, I never felt other
than seeing that baggy shirt Iwas wearing, I never felt that I

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was older than the crew like ahome. Like, I was always one of
the last ones to go to bed andblah, blah, blah. So I you know,
my energy level was cool.
Everything was good. Everybodywas a vibe, every time there was
no drama. So I'm thankful for myfriends. And if you're
listening, I want to give youall a shout out. Like, you know,

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I'm probably you know, at least10 to 15 years older than most
of these people. And, you know,they, they, they treat me as a
contemporary, they treat me asequal, you know, I might get a
joke every now and again aboutsomething but but no. And, you
know, I'm also want to give ashout out to myself. I'm proud

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of myself, because I'm proud ofthe stamina and the energy level
that I'm able to maintain. Youknow, I mean,
like something that you areconscious of that you were
thinking about, like, Oh, Igotta stay up late because I
don't want to seem like an oldman.
No, no. Okay. And that was just,you know, just this is just me

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being me. But then, you know,I'm checking my email, and I see
this email from the companysaying they're going to this has
happened before, but it's avoluntary separation program
where I think I think they dothis for people that have been

(30:03):
in a company for a long periodof time. And it's basically
they're given you an opportunityto exit the company with a
significant better package ifyou would get if you, you know,
were terminated or quit orwhatever. So it's definitely a

(30:23):
somewhat of a reduction inforce. But it's a voluntary gun
reduction.
Okay. That's nice. Andopportunity.
It is is scary for me, though,because? Because I've been at
the same place for 19 years.
Yeah. So,but you've been thinking about a
change anyhow.

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Right. Yeah. Yeah, have beenthinking about a change. But,
you know, the package is, andit's not a guarantee. So let me
make sure that that's clear.
They're saying, Hey, we'relooking for volunteers to take
this, it's not a guarantee thatwe, you know, you're gonna get
it, but we just want to see whowants to do it? Right. And so
they'll give you I think it'sthree weeks for every year that

(31:07):
you've been there, up to up to60 weeks? Oh, wow. Yeah. So I'm
at the I'm at the, I'm at thelimit, and you get a 100% of the
projected bonus that you weresupposed to get for that year
anyway. And you get whatevertime that you have for that you

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get to keep your, your, yourmedical and your dental. So I it
had been offered to me before Ihad been put out there before,
but this was probably five orsix years ago, and I wasn't at
the cap back back then. And nowI'm at the cap. And I'm like,

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Well, who knows what, like, if Idon't take it, and they may be
six months, whatever. Andthey're like, hey, you know, we
got it, we gotta let you go. Butthen you've lost that
opportunity. Or maybe it doesn'thappen at all. And, you know,
this would be an opportunity to,you know, leave, but have,

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knowing that you have at leastyou know, a year salary. Even
though it's pre tax in the bank,so that you're not like fumbling
and like worried super worriedabout getting another job so
quickly. Yeah, that's great. SoI am considering it. But that is

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such a big Oh, I am considering,you know, asking for it. But
it's be a big change in my life.
I mean, obviously, I would haveto try to find another job
because I couldn't just live offon your salary. But it'd be nice
to have some somegives you a cushion. Yeah.
cushionand a little bit of carryover a

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little bit overlap. That's whatI'm trying to say. And yeah, so
I'm strongly considering I'vetalked to a couple of buddies.
You're telling me to do it.
That's awesome. I would lovethat. Yeah, but see you back.
You're used to change you'vemoved? Yes. To change. Yeah,
changing jobs, changinglocations, change changing

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everything. I'm not used tothat. I've like I've been there
for 19 years, like, you know,and I think the stars like I've
been, I've been blessed withsome stability, and my work
life. Now. I don't always likewhat I'm doing and don't like,
you know, how I do it, or whatit entails. But I do think like,

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it's it's time, like, it's timeI like this is like the push
that I need to switch it up andlike, you know, just do
something different. Yeah,I think it's great. So,
the more I think about it, themore I'm like, alright, well,
you should just at least give ita shot. You know, I think I'm

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smart enough and cunning enoughto be able to find a job that I
like this will give me some timeto do that.
A lot of companies want to seestability with a job for a long
time. So I think that's apositive thing.
Yeah, but it's just for me, andI'll be honest with you, it's

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not so much that it's more likethe logistics of it. Like I'm
scared to like update my resumeor not even updated just create
a resume because I'm so out oftouch with the workforce and
that life and and being onLinkedIn and whatever and I'm

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like yeah, gosh, so do it. Iguess I can do it. Yeah, I
should do it. But I'm stronglyconsidering for sure. Yeah,
I know it's tricky to I thinkbecause there is some ageism I
noticed you know when Iinterview I think definitely
like people are looking at ourage and thinking, Oh, how much
longer is this person going towork? Or you know, this person

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is already right. You know, andit's
funny that it's funny that yousay that because a buddy of
mine, I was telling him allthis, and he's like, hey, oh,
cool. I'm going to meet a guywho does who I know he has some
engineering positions. And youshould come out and meet him. I
was like, Okay, I'll come outmeet him. So we started talking

(35:29):
about our personal lives andstuff like that. And my buddy.
He said, Because I told him,like, I can't stay very long. I
gotta go record the podcast. Andhe brings up the podcast, right?
And so the guy naturally asked,well, what kind of podcast is
it? It's a podcast about beingin your mid life. You're, so I'm

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revealing how old I am. You knowwhat I mean? So this is not what
I wanted to talk about, like,you know, like, again, like you
just said, like, the ageism. Andlike, if I hire this guy, how
long is he gonna be there? Youknow, like, you know, and I
didn't want that they'll kind ofcome up, but it is what it is,
you know, ducking anything orhide?

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Yeah. And I think I think, youknow, we talked about, you know,
owning or age and being where weare, and we were talking about
this one author who writesabout, you know, how to spin it
positive, right? Sure. Like tothink about the next chapter of
your life is, you know, atransformation or something
super positive. So, yeah, yeah,I think people can see that,

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like, if you're confident, andyou're excited and enthusiastic,
and you can actually be, youknow, I was hired for a job with
some of my former co workersfrom over 15 years ago, and I
think they probably had doubtstoo, like, Ooh, you know, we
haven't worked with her in awhile, is she going to do well,
and I actually think I didbetter than some, you know,
maybe a young person that theywould hire, you know, so because

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I was able to kind of just fitright in really quickly. And,
and so, but people have to bewilling to take a chance, you
know, these people knew me.
Right. Right. Versus if yougoing cold to some some company
that where you're being comparedto all these other people. It's
really tough. Yeah, for sure.
Not to discourage you. But so soI think use your network as much

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as you can, right? Yeah. Manypeople who know you and who can
vouch for you? Yeah,I mean, I'm going to and, you
know, my friends out therelistening, you know, you know, I
don't need I don't have you asfriends for that. For that, if
we were a position and whatevercompany or whatever you do, but
hey, you know, if you need myhelp, I'm gonna help you if I

(37:45):
need your help, you know, helpbrother out. So I mean, you
know, whatever you can. So it'sa interesting time in my life,
for sure.
But scary, but like, you'reready to make the leap. So when
do you have to decide by?
No next month? So I got sometime to think about and I got
some time. Set up, my buddysays, Get your resume going

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right now. Don't wait. Like,don't don't do anything this
weekend. Lock in and do yourresume. Buddy, relax, but But
no, he is right. I do need alock in. Get all my ducks in a
row, get my resume together. Youknow, maybe hire somebody to do
it. I don't know, I don't knowthese processes anymore. But

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I can help you know, hundreds ofresumes and cover letters.
Oh, well, thank you. I'm gonnatake you up on that. But yeah,
it's I mean, like I like yousaid, I think it can be a good
thing. It's time for a shake up.
It's time to get the blood goingagain, as far as like, you know,
not being so complacent. Solike, content about what you're

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doing. It's exciting ever. I'mexcited to have a new challenge.
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