Will Turns 55; Menendez/Milli Mania; Shaboozey gig

Will celebrates his 55th birthday 🎉 and contemplates his boozey ways. We also share our thoughts on the Mendendez brothers Netflix series and Milli Vanilli's revival as part of the soundtrack. Will reminisces on the hot albums of 1994 and how there are limits to how late a midlifer should stay out for a live concert. 

Thanks for listening--keep on marauding!

Episode Transcript

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Music.

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Welcome to midlife marauderswith Will and Max.
How is everything going withyou? Max? It's good, and you
just celebrated a birthday nottoo long ago. I did. I did the
big 55th driving the speedlimit. Now, that's big. Now

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you're joining me. Hey, yeah,we're together. Now, can you
tell how excited I am aboutthat?
It's cool. I mean, age isnothing but a number, that's
that's what my father taught me.
So I try to live by that mantra.
Do you feel any different? No,no, I feel about the same. It's

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just just another, anothernumber
on your birthday, I don't feelany different than I was. 5453
52took you out, right? How did you
celebrate? I did. We had kind ofa
two fold celebration, actually,kind of three to make, to be

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honest with you,so did they plan it, or you
planned it? I'm not a planner ofmy birthday. I mean, it's just,
yeah, I'm not a huge celebratorof my birthday. I know you, you
went out three celebrations,right? Yeah. Well, it was kind
of like,Thanks, man. It was kind of
like, you know, I have like,different sets of friends, so

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some people couldn't do theactual birthday because it was a
Friday to have kids or whatever.
So did something with them. OnThursday, we had a happy hour at
a local restaurant, and it wascool. Had a, you know, decent
little turn. Well, good Turner.
I shouldn't say decent. I'malways appreciative of friends
coming. But probably had like 12and 15 people there at the happy

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hour. That's nice. So everybodywanted to celebrate with you,
right? Yeah, yeah. Because onething, one thing that my friends
can always rely on me for, is tohelp them celebrate their
birthday. So,you know, I try to make it to
anybody's Well, my friend'sbirthday parties as best as I

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can. So I guess people areseeing that energy and want to
reciprocate on that. The problemwith birthdays, and I don't know
if you experienced this max, isthat when you celebrate your
birthday, and particularly ifyou go out now, you may have a
different group of friends, butmy life is very different from

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you, but I find that if you area person that goes out and it's
on your birthday, there is maybeI'm rolling with the wrong group
of friends. I don't know. I lovethem to death, but there's
always a pressure tothey always want to buy you a
drink. Or, do Shu to drink?
Yeah, yeah. And so it depends,right? Do you have friends who

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like to drink and friends whodon't like to drink? Or do you
are all of your friends prettymuch drinkers? All my friends
are pretty much,yeah, we're, we're very, you
know, in a social setting there,there are going to be some some
drinks that's very American,too,
cultures too. Yeah, that's whenyou go out and you go to a bar,
right? And the Bar servesalcohol, so, right? And it's

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become more sophisticated as youmake the drinks that you're
drinking now 100% you know, itwas, it's not just when they're
just chugging beers and doingthat. I mean, we're drinking,
you know, nice bourbons or ortequila or stuff like that, you
know, like PBR, yeah, yeah.
We're not drinking likeMilwaukee's best and stuff like

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that. You know, we're havinglike that in a while, old
fashions and espresso martinisand stuff like that. But you
know, there's still those thatyou know, like, well, let's do a
shot, let's it's your birthday,let's do a shot. And that's cool
for a while, but like, man, itbecomes overwhelming. It becomes

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and I hate telling my friends,no, no, I'm good, because they
always seem to be disappointed.
You know what I mean, like, it,does it give them excuse, like
it's, like this peer pressure sothat they can keep drinking too?
Because that's how well, Iguess. So I, you know, I never,
I never thought about that.
Yeah, everybody's drinking,yeah, and you don't want to

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leave anybody out. But as thenight goes on, let's say the
party started at nine, right? Weget there, and you know, a
couple of my friends have, youknow, well, let's do a shot. All
right, I know I'm doing one withwith someone so, all right, I
got your next one. All right,that's cool. But then, you know,
if you have late arrivingfriends that come in hour two

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hours later, they're catchingthe tail end of that.
And you're telling them, No,buddy, I've already had like,
five or six shots, you know? Andthen they always have this look
of disappointment. I was like,Well, I'm sorry I've been here
all night. You, you know, youbuy me a shot now it's gonna put
me over the edge. So it'salways, you know, I found

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myself. It's funny to me, butit's like, I think you've been
pigeonholed. Yeah, yeah. Like toturn down, to deny my friends
the opportunity to do a shot.
It's it is what it is. And youknow, what's the solution to
that?
The solution to that is, to me,is you have to tell them up

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front, I'm not doing shots, anddon't take it. Don't, don't take
it personal. No offense. But Iif I have 30 friends there, and
the 30 friends each want to buyme a shot, what do you think
that's going to do to me? Youknow what I mean? You know so or
you can say, Alright, I'm goingto do a shot at this particular

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time, we're gonna do one bigbirthday shot, and then that's
gonna be it. I can't keep goingall night, right? Doing shots,
actually, I think there's alimit, right? Yeah, absolutely,
absolutely, yeah. I think it'sstill, you have a lot of
friends, and a lot of you, know,maybe different groups of
friends, right? I gotta get apiece of you, so ideally, like,

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if you were to celebrate, like,if you were to pick, like, if
somebody said to you, hey, whatdo you want to do for your
birthday? What would you pick?
So I think going forward, yeah,I think I'm gonna switch it up
now. I think going forward, it'sjust gonna be a nice dinner,
and, you know, we'll do somewine and whatever, and then

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that'll close it out exciting,you know, that's it, and go to
bed. Um, yeah, I think that's, Ithink that's gonna be it. I
think the the bar birthdays,although very fun, yeah, I
think, I think they're, they'relimited. Now, I don't want that
to sound like I'm becoming afuddy duddy or a crotchety old

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man or anything like that, butthere's only so much that you
could do. I mean, I'm 55 yearsold. I've been celebrating
drinking birthdays since I was18. I mean, true, yeah. So
there's only so much you can do,so switch it up next time,
right? Switch it up. Switch itup. You know, I think my friends
will understand and, you know,and that, I mean, they're mid

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lifers too, so they got to befeeling kind of the same thing.
I'm thinking, right, right?
Yeah, yeah. So it's probablypressure on them to, we're going
to another bar for birthday,they probably would be relieved
to just have a quiet dinnersomewhere. So,
I mean, going back to what yousaid about is it a a monumental

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birthday? I'm not sure how youfeel. I mean, I don't feel any
different than when I was 54 or53 I guess I do qualify for some
additional discounts. Now, Iremember one time
I was going to play golf, andguy was like, You're not 55 yet.

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Are you? And at first I wasoffended. I was like, hell no.
And I was like, wait a minute,I'm 54 I was not that big of a
stretch. And then I was like,No, I'm not. And then I kind of
calmed down a little bit. I waslike, Well, what happens when
you turn 55 Yeah, what was thebenefit? Now, he said, Oh, you
get, like, a certain percentageoff. Oh, see, that's a good

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discount. It is, yes. Oh, whodoesn't love to save some money?
But I mean, 55 I don't thinkthat's the
that's the year, at least, in myeyes, that you should start
getting, like,reductions, because you're old.
You know, I thought that kickedin at maybe 60. I thought, I

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figured I have like, five more,five more years of of this. But
depends, though, like, itdepends on the place, but I
maybe we should embrace it,because we're still young enough
to, you know, we're stillyoungish, you know, so we can
get the discount, but still playgolf, you know, yeah, for sure.
I mean, I'm never gonna turndown a discount, but it's just

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like, wow, 55 and then, youknow, I drive around here, where
I live, and there seems to bea lot of adult communities,
right? And those are 55 plus,right? I think we talked about
this before, but yeah, those are55 plus. I'm like,
who would live in this if theyjust turned 55

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I mean, maybe I'm looking at itthe wrong way, right? I guess.
So maybe I'm looking at thewrong way, but at 55 I don't
feel like I need to be in acommunity of, like,
aged people. Like, what benefitis that for me? You know what
I'm saying, right? And, oh, I'msure there's a lot of benefits,
right? Like, you don't have toworry about.

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You don't have to worry aboutlawn care, right? Because most
of those places, they take careof it. I'm sure it's a fairly
safe, secure community. Youknow, most of them are gated,
right? Or a lot of them aregated. And so you've got, yeah,
I'm sure there's lots ofamenities, probably there's
social activities, andsome people don't like to have
kids running around, right?

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They're at theadult quiet. You know, that's a
great point. I didn't think ofit like that. You know, maybe
that is the, one of the benefitsI could see of is not having
children running around. That's,that's a great point. But, like,
as far as, like, the physicalstuff, I mean, 55 Come on, you
can't stand for your lawn orwhatever. I don't know, I just

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freeze up time for other things.
I mean, when you're talkingabout moving to a golf
community, that's not that muchdifferent, right?
Retirees communities,right? It's just a label to me,
like, you know, I was telling myfriend a story, like, what if I

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meet a woman, you know, and westart going out, you know? Of
course, I'm not gonna lie aboutmy age, but maybe we haven't
gotten to that part, right? WhatI mean? And she's like, oh,
let's, you know, I said, Hey,let's go back to my house for a
night. That would beembarrassing

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to the community, activecommunity, 55
plus, because, yeah, with somesomebody like in there in her
30s, yeah, yeah,yeah. Actually, that's a good,
good argument for not moving toa 55 plus. Do I have to have my
age like, you know, the minimum,like, plastered on a banner

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before I go into my house? Idon't want that so that that's,
that's what all gave me pauseabout that. But it sounds like
you're not too um bothered byturning 55 I feel like I was
thinking more. It's like, oh no,we're getting closer to 60.
No. I mean, I'm not bothered bybecause, first of all, I'm

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blessed to be 55 Yeah.
Attitude, so yeah. I mean, thethought of 60 just around the
corner of that is a little bittroublesome. That is a little
bit, uh, yeah, that's a littlebit scary. But, you know, I'm 55
I'm not 60, so we'll deal withthat. When I turn to, do you
feel like Time moves faster nowthat you're older? 100%

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Oh, it's not even it's not evenclose. I mean,
I don't know. I just remember asa kid, I think, like an hour,
you know, you sitting in aclassroom, and an hour is
forever. Yeah, that's a goodpoint. And then school was
dragging, right, dragging. Now,blink my eye, and two hours have
gone. And, you know, now, likethe whole days are just gone,

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like the bikes are flying by,flying by. It's an interesting
phenomenon. I'm not sure whythat is. I mean, I don't know,
but you're right. It's just daysjust fly by years. I mean,
it's interesting. Somebody needsto maybe there is a study about
why, as you get older, like timejust seems to move at the speed

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of light.
So speaking of getting older, Iwatched the monsters, the Lyle
and Eric Menendez story. Theseries on it's on Netflix,
right? I think it's on it is onNetflix, yep. So a lot of

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Menendez mania, you know, a lotof people have been watching
this. There's a documentary toothat followed that. I think Kim
Kardashian went to visit them injail.
But I think what I liked aboutit the most was kind of going
back in time and kind of seeingthe clothing, the music from
that time period, from the late80s, early 90s, and it just

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really brought me back. So Ithought it was a great series,
you know, a little bitsensational, but just the way
they filmed it and the way theyintegrated the music, the
soundtrack, I thought wasawesome. So I know you watched
some of it, too. So what wereyour thoughts on? Yeah,
definitely, no, definitely, youknow, hearing the music brought

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brought back memories of that,that era, you know, it was the
early 90s. We both werestill in college, yeah, yeah,
wow.
The clothes a little bit youngerthan or maybe one of them is
about our age, but yeah, yeah,that thing they were high

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school, still,yeah, I think yeah, yeah, so I
want to say 17 and 19.
Yeah,yeah. You know, I was like We
touched on the music.
It was very nostalgic. Theclothing, you know, with the pop
collars and everythingyou know, the Polo polo, the
eyes are rugby shirts, yeah,yeah.

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Definitely nostalgic. Definitelytook me back to that, to that,
that era, that time and place.
What a wonderful time that was,I'll be honest with you, I
didn't really follow the casethat much back then, because,
either, yeah, because, you know,we were, we were in college, we
were kind of like, I mean, weobviously knew about, you know,
what was going on in the world,you know, but that was before

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the internet and everythingelse, so we had to rely on
newspapers or word of mouth,right? So it's so different,
right? We got news, and youcould be very selective, and
what we paid attention to, haveit all around us, sure. And, you
know, we were just kind of doingour own thing in COVID, our own
little world. And you know, thefact that that was way over in
on the West Coast, you know, wewere just kind of insulated from

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that. And, I mean, definitelyheard about it, but I didn't. I
didn't really pay too muchattention to it. I just, it was
just to me. It was just like tworich, snobby boys up to no good.
I mean, well, I guess murders alittle bit more up to no good.
But, yeah, it didn't. It didn't.

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It didn't register for me. Itdidn't. I had no feelings about
it whatsoever, but they'reserious, you know, like you
said, it did bring me back tothat time and place and and made
me think about what was goingon, you know, in my world back
then, you know, particularlywith music and fashion and
everything. So it was cool towatch. I watched the first three

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episodes, and it really, I meanto me, it was, it was like
watching a crime drama that Ibarely knew anything about. So,
yeah, which is good. I think welearned a lot. I think I learned
a lot for sure, for sure, whatmight have happened, right, and
reasons behind why they killedtheir parents.
But I think, you know, havingMilli Vanilli play have a few

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songs of theirs really broughtme back. And I was trying to
think about, did I like them? Ithink I did, you know, I mean, I
think they were such a bigsensation back then. Well, well,
Max, I got to put a disclaimerout here for a second. I gotta,
I gotta, I gotta blow you up alittle bit.
So to our listening audience,Max has been, you know, we have

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side conversations. We plot anoutline for the podcast, and
everythingMax has become, would you say
obsessed or enthralled, orwhat's the right word for your
fascination with Milly Vanilliright now, talk to me about No,
I do, you know, to the with theMenendez brothers. I do like
true crime, so that's probablymy guilty pleasure, right? But

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Millie Vanilli, I think justbecause
I don't know it just that reallybrought me back to that time,
and I started looking at the oldvideos, and I feel like I might
even have the album somewhere,but, wow, you bought the album.
They were just, you know, Idon't know. They just were so
different. And I had no ideathat they were actually German

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and French, right? So they'reactually, and you know that
people, you could look at them,and a little different. Well, of
course, but I was listening totheir voices, right? I was
listening to singing. It'sobviously a very like, soulful
voice. Who can speak perfectEnglish, right? You know, you
can only hear the British peoplewho can, they still sound

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American when they're singing.
But this was like, you know,just you didn't hear any
accents. So I think I watchedthe documentary as well about,
okay, so of course, they talkabout how it was obvious to a
lot of people in the industry,and a lot of people were
covering things up, but peopleknew that it wasn't them
singing, and it wasn't untilthey were nominated for the

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Grammy and accepted the Grammy,which I guess was a mistake,
like one of their talent agents,who didn't know that they
weren't the real singers,submitted, you know, the
nomination, and then that's howthey end up getting caught,
right? Because it kind of threwthem into an even bigger
spotlight, and people were, youknow, because I guess with the
Grammys, you have to sing.

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It should be you singing live.
So it's a fascinating story. Ijust think, and then I look at
their videos, like a lot oftheir clothing, you know, it's
come back around, right? Likethe frayed jeans, and, you know,
they have, like, these leatherjackets that look cool, you
know, maybe not their shoulderpad outfits, but

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at the time, you know, theywere, they were kind of sexy,
androgynous, you know, they'remodels, right? So can you blame
this producer for thinking,Okay, I want to get the best
sound and the best look and putit together. I mean, that's what
people do nowadays all the time,right? But at that time.
Because I think they, you know,it was just so egregious, what

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they did, because they'rebasically lying to the world and
not admitting it. I think it wasjust a bigger deal than it maybe
it should have been, but it doesmake you think about music. Of
that time I had sent you a clipabout I saw this, this reel on
Instagram about MC Hammer, and Icouldn't believe that that was

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35 years ago. A lot of times, alot of time has passed. I'm
like, Man, I remember,I guess I was in high school at
time. Yeah, I was in highschool, and
when hammer came out, it was sodifferent because, you know, me
living in North Carolina andbeen having roots in New York.

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It was all just east coast, alleast coast, all New York centric
music. And I started hearingabout MC Hammer, and you know,
the videos, videos were hot backthen, and I just couldn't
believe the wave and how on firehe was with this West Coast
music. And I took it took me along time to to even like it,

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but it was more so the videos ofthat time. Think about how
powerful videos were back then.
They really, are really an MCHammer Correct, correct. And
when you just started watchingthe videos, the music was, it
was what it was, and you youeventually liked, and it was
cool, but it was the dancing andthe theatrics of the video that

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really, really got you hooked.
And you know, when I saw thatvideo, and that was probably his
first video, and it was verybasic, it was very low budget,
but, you know, you just seen thedancing and how that wave just
caught on. Everybody was doingthe running man dance back then,
and all these empty hammer movesand stuff like that. It was

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really, really cool. But thereason that's another one who
kind of ended up in like,scandal. And, yeah, yeah, he has
some financial, financialsituations, but he kind of
bounced back. He hekind of bounced back with it. He
made some money off of, like,like, I forget the name of the
company, but they do, like,hooks and picture hooks and

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stuff like that. And he has somecommercials for that. So, oh
yeah, yeah, making poking fun athimself. Yeah, for sure. You
know the hammer part of it. Butafter I sent you that reel,
I started thinking about musicfrom back in the day, and you
know it being 2024 and I waslike, let me look back 30 years

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ago, you know, with 1994and I was really,
I guess I just forgot, becauseI'm old now,
yeah, Tom does fly. But I justkind of look back at 1994 and
that was a very, very powerfulyear. As far as hip hop. Maybe
you can go on and tell me aboutother genres, but I couldn't. I

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couldn't believe the the thealbums
that came out that year. Youknow, you're talking about ready
to die, but by Notorious BIGyou're talking about Illmatic,
by NAS. You're talking aboutSouthern pluralistic music by
outcast. And you know, were youworking at the record store at

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that time? I'm 94 I believe so,right. I believe even more hyper
aware, yeah, yeah, for sure, forsure, for sure. But yeah, that
was just a great year,particularly in hip hop music.
And that kind of carried forthto me. You know, that was

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probably the most impactful timefor me, as far as hip hop was
probably 90 to 9698those are the years that I go
back and listen to all the hiphop artists back then.
But yeah, it was just a greatyear. And it's just a great
memory, very nostalgic.

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Tell me what you thought about1994 as a year of music. Do you
have any Well, I was justwondering,
well, I know. I just went to seeGreen Day. And their album
Dookie, which is a funny name,was released in 1994 which is
amazing. And they were onlymaybe 1819 years old when they
released it, but, and that'skind of stood the test of time,

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I think. But, you know, curiousto see like, are you still
listening to some of thesebands? Are you Are they still
around? Are they still makingmusic? You know, have they stood
the test of time? Do you think Iwould say no, pretty much to the
last, last question that youposed, as far as I mean, there

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are obviously some acts that areat a have, but, you know, just
looking at a list of hip hopalbums that came.
Out it's, it's kind of wild,because,
you know, these people would be,if you think about it, would be
our age.
You know, right now, a lot ofthem have unfortunately passed

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away. You know, there are aboutfour or five albums of that year
that II would periodically go back and
listen to,you know, obviously, you know,
everybody still listens tonotorious, big everybody still
listens to NAS. But are youlistening to new stuff and what
on satellite radio, or whatit depends on what what the vibe

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is. So now I think about it kindof depends on the time of day
too, which reallyso daytime. Still use the radio
in the car sometimes day, wow,okay, boom.
In the daytime, I tend to listento newer acts. So you know, my

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Apple Music or Amazon like whatthey suggest for you, or you
pick it. Well, you know, it'sour algorithm now, so I guess
they pick it based on what I'vehave been listening to, yeah,
but I tend to listen to newer,newer acts during the day. And
I, you know, weigh in if youfeel the same way, but I tend to

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be more nostalgic at night.
So, yeah, yeah, more No,yeah, definitely more nostalgic
at night. So depend on whoyou're with, correct? That's
true too.
But yeah, I'll listen to, youknow, if I'm going out somewhere
jams at night, slow jams atnight, or when I'm like,

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cleaning up around the house orsomething, or or if I'm going
out somewhere where they'regoing to be contemporaries, I'll
throw in some old school stuff.
You know what? I mean. Just getback in that frame of mind. I
would be remiss to say I forgotthat Method Man came out with to
Cal in 1990 so that was a greatalbum test. That's no person
that that you know we, at leastI circle back to

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and what a we might have to givehim an award, Max, or what for
kind of reinventing himself overand over. Well, not only that,
like Yeah, because he has becomean accomplished actor, but
he hashe looks good. I don't know what
kind of award we would give forthat. But as a midlight,

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midlife, midlife Marauder, helooks fabulous. You know
he's, he's got, speaking offabulous, that fab guy from
Millie vanilla, he looks prettygood now. Oh, does he? Of
course, yeah. Oh yeah. Man,Whoa, yeah, three, yeah, you

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know? He, yeah, we should, maybethat should be our end of the
year thing. We kind of give anaward of
who've aged well, but then alsowho have inspired us. I like
that. I like that. So shout outto Method Man, man, he. He's
very inspiring to me. Like, youknow, I see him now, and I'm
like, I'm in. I gotta hit thegym. Hot boy looks, looks in

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fabulous shape, so it looksgood. And Joshua Jackson, we
were talking about him earlier,but he's only 46 so
10 years. That's a good life forI don't know that much about
Joshua Jackson. I've seen him ina couple of things. I didn't he
was in The Hunger Games, right?
I know I'm from Dawson's Creek.
Okay, well, Dawson's Creek.

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Didn't watch that. Yeah. And nowhe's got some new show on a
ship, I think, some series,yeah, yeah, ship doctor, or
something like that.
Commercials, I've seen thosecommercials. Yeah, he, he has.
He has done well for himself andhis for his age. He, he's
definitelydid a glow up too. So yes, we
got to figure out what thesepeople's secrets are. You

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I did something a little out ofthe norm. Uh, somewhat recently,
what's that? I went to a countrymusic concert. Oh, this was new
music or old music. This isbrand new music. Brand New
Music. So I'm to, I'm not intothe country music, singing that

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much that seems to be like thefastest growing music drawing
genre. Do you agree? Really?
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Ithink so. I think so. I think
the audience is getting broadertoo, for that 100% 100% Well,
that leads me to my point. Sothere's.
A gentleman named shabu zahuzi, who's a who's from the
Washington DC area, a black man.

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He's not a, he's not a midlifemarauder. He's in his see. How
old Shu boo z is. He was on late20s,
yes. So anyway, he's kind ofcaught fire here 29
Okay, so he has a very popularsong out the bar song, Tipsy,
and it's just caught fire thissummer, Song of the summer here

(30:37):
at everywhere, andsome friends and I caught when,
you know, we did a littleinvestigation and found out he's
a local cat. But anyway, wefound out he's from Fairfax.
Yeah, no idea that he wasperforming in Washington, DC.
So it was like, you know, hey,we got to go check this guy out.
We've been listening to this onesong all summer. Right? So it

(31:03):
was an impulse buy. I'm notgonna lie, it was impulse Where
is he playing 930 club in DC.
So it was an impulse buy. Weonly knew one song but say, hey,
whatever. We only live. We onlyknow this one. Yeah, 100% so we
bought our tickets. The show waslate September, I want to say up

(31:27):
until the time of the show, hedid release an album, so we kind
of quickly were able to listento the album. We didn't, we
didn't have it wasn't we didn'thave the opportunity to let it
soak in, and, you know, reallyget familiar with the songs, or
whatever. So we were going onthe strength of this one song.
Okay, okay, so that's prettygood song, very catchy. So that,

(31:50):
that was our thinking. So we hadplanned this evening of going
out. Now I was kind of leavingit up to my friends to, kind of
to work it out. So I didn'treally get into the minutia of,
you know, the actual concert,the details and everything.
So come to find out a day or twobefore, because we were talking

(32:14):
about, you know, getting abig Uber to go down there go to
a place right across the streetfrom the venue, hang out there
for a little while something oh,we're gonna leave probably like
656, something like that.
Because I'm thinking theconcerts like eight, nine,
something like that, right?
Well, much to my chagrin,I found out the doors open to

(32:36):
the venue at 10 o'clock, 10people did you figured when did
you figure that out? Probably aday or two before the show.
Okay, so I was thinking, do youthink to yourself, maybe I'm
gonna skip this? No, no. But itdid make me pause for a minute.
It didn't make me like, okay, Ican do this a Saturday night. So

(32:57):
I can,I can do this, but the lateness
of the doors opening did give mepause, so I was like, All right,
cool. I'm wrong with thepunches, because that's what I
do now as a marauder, right?
Yes, you have to, like, kind oftrick yourself. You gotta trick
your mind, trick your body, dothe whole thing. So yes, just

(33:20):
say yes. So we met up at afriend's house, had a couple
cocktails there around 8pmprobably left to go to DC,
around like 845 Yeah, like 845yeah, that's that feels late. It
does to start off tonight tostart so we got to no let me,
let me, let me move up thattimeline. We probably left at

(33:44):
830and got to DC around like nine,
nine ish, 915, ish, right. Okay,so we went to a place across the
street. It was a bar. Had acouple cocktails there,
had a good time. It was 10o'clock.

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Doors are opening. All right,let's go wrap up our tabs. We
walk to the venue. Now I don'tknow why I didn't think about
this. You know, I didn't, forsome reason, I don't know why
any of us didn't think aboutthis. Doors opening doesn't mean
you, you just arrive at 10o'clock and the line starts
forming right, right? Likeyou're just gonna walk in Right?

(34:29):
Like it's a movie or something.
We're inexperienced. Now, yes,yes. And that was kind of like,
I don't really go into the citythat much, so it's, it's been a
long time since I've donesomething like this. So anyway,
we walk over and there is a hugeline wrapped around the building
to get to the spot. And the spotis not very big, okay, um,

(34:51):
immediately I'm thinking tomyself, Oh no, this line is too
long. I don't want to wait inthis line. It's 10 o'clock
already.
I just, if somebody puts it outthere to bail, I'm not gonna
that. I might just say way andsay, Yeah, let's go right.
No one did anything. So I'mthinking of mine. Okay, all

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right, are these are the peoplethat you went with? Their our
age too. They're a littleyounger. They're in their mid,
mid 40s, mid to late 40s, sono one said anything. So we
weren't going to be the first. Iwasn't going to be the first. I
need to be more of a leader, butwe go to the back of the line,
and the line was formidable,like there's no way, man,

(35:34):
there's no way. The line movedat a decent rate. I wouldn't say
quickly, but I wouldn't say at asnail's pace either. It was just
enough to keep us on the hook.
So we probably were in line 30minutes. Okay, now that seems
like a long time. No, it's thatwe got in line at 10, so it's

(35:56):
like 1030 Oh, okay, so 1030so 30 minutes seems like a long
time, I get it, but you'reengaging in conversation. You're
talking to other people in line,you're keeping yourselves
entertained. You're not juststanding in line like you would
be at the DMV or something likethat. And plus, we had had a,
you know, a few cocktails, so wewere feeling pretty good, but
like I said, it was moving justenough to keep us on the hook.

(36:18):
So we probably got into thevenue around 1030 1040
we, you know, we went to thebar, caught a couple of drinks,
and there was an opening act.
There was a gentleman playingthe guitar. I couldn't tell you
one song he signed. I couldn'ttell you if it was even country
music. So you all told talkingto each other, vibe, and we're

(36:38):
getting ourselves hype. Youknow, it's, it's 1111
30 at this point.
And you know, I'm looking at mywatch, I'm like, man, it's
getting late. What's this guygotta get up? My God, 1130
right? So finally he gets on,probably around like 1140 1145

(37:02):
and then, you know, grant you,he's not playing his most
popular song at the big at thetop of the show, right, right?
Say that to the end, right? Sohe's playing his songs, and
they're good enough for me tocatch a vibe, right? You keep me
kind of engaged and enthralled.
And how are you? Were youdancing,

(37:24):
bopping back and forth, youknow, kind of like fake
enthusiasm, you know, becauseit's not like country where, you
know he's talking about hisgirlfriend leaving him, or he
ran over his dog or somethinglike that, right? It's mainly,
mainly involving party goingout, right? Okay, having a good

(37:44):
time. So I'll give them kudosfor that. Get with that so I can
get with that. So the vibes arehigh. It's a good energy. I
don't know the songs, but I'mjust kind of rolling with them.
So two girls that came with us.
We had probably a party of likenine, I want to say two girls,
bless their hearts, they'renurses. I would have thought
they would have been equipped tostay.

(38:07):
They tapped out. They tapped Oh,they did. Yeah, they tapped out.
And I was like, he does. Hehasn't even done the best song.
Here, we gotta go. We gotta go.
So they rolled out. So anyway,there's probably like seven of
us hanging on at this point.
Yeah, see, yeah, long. So wemade it through. I don't know

(38:31):
how we did. I think I might havehad a
Red Bull or something at thatpoint. But, you know, he finally
did his song, and he did like,two or three renditions of the
song. So it was, it was cool,but what time was it? Oh, it was
probably, like one, 130something like that. But, yeah,
it did. It did kind of make mefeel, and, you know, we'll have

(38:53):
a reoccurring, uh, segment onthe show of, are we too old for
this? But it did make me feel,man, I am too old,
but it was cool though. I pushedmy limit. You know, I'm 55 Well,
I guess I was 54 at the time,but it made me feel pretty good

(39:13):
that I was able to do it. And,you know, I was able to hang
with my friends, got through it,had a great time. Probably
wouldn't do it. No regrets, noregrets, but probably wouldn't
do it again, to be honest,it's just too late. I mean,
yeah, just well, you would doit, but not that late, not that
late, not that late. I mean, Ithink it's important, like I
said earlier too, for us tostill be able to enjoy life, go

(39:35):
to concerts, friends, try putyourself out. Put yourself out
there, you know, something tokeep the blood. I don't want to
sound like we're geriatric, butyou know what I mean, like, you
know, keep some vitality in ourlives. And it was a cool, cool
experience, but like I said, Iprobably would never do it

(39:56):
again. I.
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