February 10, 2025 • 40 mins
Welcome our guest, Emma Folz, a rodeo photographer who began her journey in early 2023. Emma’s stories about the vibrant rodeo communities she's encountered are both inspiring and captivating, as she shares how her lens has captured more than just the action—it’s captured friendships and a sense of belonging.
Emma takes us on her photographic journey, revealing both the thrill and the challenging aspects of her craft. From following the Northwest Region College Rodeo circuit to capturing the dynamic moments that define these events, her passion is palpable. Amid tales of adventures, mishaps, and her unique family life, Emma opens up about introducing her little one to the rodeo world. Her stories about her favorite rodeo in Susanville, where she experienced both joy and technical difficulty, and her fondness for diet Pepsi and quirky sandwich-making habits, bring a personal touch to her professional narrative.
Emma’s insights into her rodeo photography journey, blended with personal anecdotes, create a tapestry of humor, passion, and heartfelt moments that promise to entertain and inspire. Whether you're a rodeo enthusiast, a photography buff, or someone who appreciates a good story, this episode offers something special for everyone. Join us for a listen that balances the excitement of rodeo photography with the simple joys of parenting and guilty pleasures.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Emma Foles how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing good.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Pretty good.
Thank you for joining me onthis Wednesday evening.
I'm happy to be here.
Yeah, you want to hear a guiltypleasure that I have right now.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh boy, what is it?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, so like last week and days ago exactly 10
days ago, right I watched a liamneeson movie, right.
Okay, it was sinners and saints, it's like ira kind of stuff
back in the 70s and stuff likethat, and I was like you know
what it's a good movie.
It's like you know what?
(01:05):
I need to start watching moreliam neeson movies, right?
So this whole time, like thelast liam neeson movie I ever
watched wasn't taken right itwas rob roy back in the 90s,
1990s were you?
Were you born then or no?
oh, okay I was not your age, sodon't know your age.
(01:31):
But rob roy, very good movie,90s, probably mid 90s I think,
and I was just like you knowwhat just brought me back.
I'm like I think I need to gowatch his movie.
So last 10 days I've beenwatching a Liam Neeson movie
every day every single day,every single day, I watch one
(01:52):
Liam Neeson movie.
You know what one I'm watchingright now, before I got on taken
to taken to have you.
Have you watched Liam Neesonmovies?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh, I don't think so.
I am so bad with I might've.
I'm so bad with, like anyactors or actresses, I could not
tell you who's in what.
I not a skillset.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, well, he has a lot of skill sets.
He has a lot of particularskill sets, so a lot of
particular skill sets.
So I saw taking one and that'swhat he kind of says, you know
and so it's uh, it's prettyfunny because he's like the
nicest hit man.
He always gets the girls, healways is the honest guy.
You know, there's like themovie honest thief, but if you
(02:43):
watch majority of his movieslately they're all the same.
He's lost his, I guess, histhinking, his thoughts, his
memory.
There's a movie Memory.
I mean if you think of a movieor you think of like a plot,
he's done it and he's like oneof the nicest hitmans out there.
(03:03):
So I'm saying this because justto get the nerves away, did it
work?
I'll have to go take a lookcheck it out, check it out and
then for the listeners.
I know that's a little segue,but I wanted to share my guilty
pleasure.
I might do an episode on LiamNeeson movies.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So far, yeah, yeah, so far, so far, so good.
But I just was like I was takenback from that movie and I was
like you know what?
I'm going back to thefilmography and just watching
whatever that's streaming rightnow.
And so I got Netflix, I gotAmazon prime, you name it, I got
(03:48):
it and I'm just watching.
I'm the same way the free, thefree, the free movies.
And I know I'm gonna end upbuying some movies, but my
daughters I have three of themand they all make fun of me for
watching liam neeson movies hey,you want to watch a movie.
They're like what are you gonnawatch liam neeson?
Like yes, they're like no.
So yeah, welcome my world.
(04:08):
Oh man, so not nervous anymore.
Did I help?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
yeah, it did okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
all right, emma foals , you are the em Foles
photographer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, how long have you been doing it?
I started back in.
It was only spring of 2023 thatI started this journey of my
rodeo photography.
So we're going on two years,but it's been some of the best
two years of my life, I got tosay.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I bet I mean you're quite the photographer.
Thank you Small world, you know, elaine.
I do, I'm not going to shouther out.
I'm not going to shout her outbecause she didn't set this up
or give me a heads up.
Hey, get Emma on.
No, I did this without elaine,so no no, we've become very,
(05:10):
very close friends.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Uh, I mean, we've only known each other like eight
months now, like not long.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So that you're her girl.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
what'd she say?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
that you're her girl, is that?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
true?
What'd she say?
That you are her girl.
Yeah, we're pretty tight, wegot pretty tight pretty quick,
and so that's one of the amazingthings that doing rodeo
photography has brought me iswonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Community of people which I definitely needed when I
started this.
Yeah, she, she's, she's goodlady, she's good lady.
So no shout out, but eventhough, say your name.
It is kind of.
But no shout out, elaine, youdon't deserve it.
She listens to all the episodes.
By the way, she said, outsideof my family, she's my number
one fan.
So that's what she said.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so with Elaine knowingall that, it's a big world, but
(06:06):
small world.
You are here, there andeverywhere in between.
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
A lot of help there.
I started local, honestly.
I started with the Walla WallaCommunity College Rodeos, where
I started, and then, after I didthat one, I fell in love with
shooting rodeo and it kind oftook off from there and I
started following around theNorthwest Region College Rodeo
(06:43):
and I have not missed a rodeosince fall of 2023.
I've been at every single oneof their rodeos photographing
for them and it has been a blast.
But uh, it's taken me a lot ofplaces.
I mean I've gone.
I mean not like super far.
I think the furthest we've goneis Susanville, california,
northern California, so it wasabout a 10 hour drive, but each
(07:05):
way.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, I've been there quite a fewtimes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah.
But no, this, this industrytakes me a lot of places.
I've been all over Washington,couple of places in Oregon
gearing up for a very busy 2025season.
My, I don't honestly know if Ihave a free weekend the whole
summer yeah, I saw your schedulelooks, uh, quite, quite
(07:33):
fascinating and busy yeah, and Idon't even have everything on
there at the moment, so butstill still wow, but still still
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, we started following each other because I
had this one guy, Wiley Coyote.
Yeah, you know that guy.
I think that's when we started.
Yeah, that guy startedfollowing you, you started
following me, and then you knowit's all like OK, elaine, did
you hear that episode?
(08:04):
Yes, I did like okay elaine, didyou hear that episode?
Yes, I did.
I talked about, like, my lovefor photography.
Even though I don't take photos, yeah, I try to live in the
moment, but because I live likevicariously through your guys's
lens, I I love it.
So I really get a kick out ofyour guys's photos.
So, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's funny about me because I'm like I love doing
rodeo photography and takingpictures like that, but I'm also
outside of that.
I'm such a live in the momentperson and I'm usually not
taking very many pictures on myphone or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, right, so like live in the moment, right,
right, I went to go see culturewall okay and everybody was on
the phone.
Everybody was on the phone onthe phone is dark as dark as
heck.
You can't really see himbecause the lighting was just
dim.
(09:02):
I was in spokane.
I watched him in spokane, rightand it was just like I can't, I
can't, I can't record it, Ican't record it.
I'll take a picture but I'llcan't record it because why?
You know, and you're in vegas.
I saw red clay strays in vegastwice now, you know, and people
are on their phone.
24 is no.
I went to go see Willie Nelsonand Chris Stapleton this summer,
(09:28):
you know and everybody's oneverybody's on their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I can't do it, you know and you paid all this money
and you're going to skip onyour phone.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, right.
I see my kids do it.
I'm get off your phone, butthey're learning.
They're learning live in themoments.
Live in the moment.
Even though you capture, youcapture the events, the action.
Why still photograph and notvideo?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
oh, I don't.
I've kind of started to moveinto video a little bit just for
the fun of it, but I think whatI love so much about like
photographing is is freezing thememories for these athletes.
It's going to be becomesomething that they can look
(10:27):
back on in 50 years who knows,when they have kids and
grandkids and they can show themlike.
This is what I did, and Iwalked into tons of homes where
there's generations of cowboysand cowgirls hanging on the wall
of their rodeo images and justlike knowing I get to be a part
(10:47):
of that and being able toprovide that makes me really
happy, and so I think I justenjoy freezing those moments and
making those memories versus avideo.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I've seen some of the action photos.
You know the still framedaction photos.
I've seen some of the actionphotos.
You know the still framedaction photos.
Pretty phenomenal work.
Did you go to school for that,did you?
I mean, are you going to schoolfor that?
I don't know if you're still inschool.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm not, I'm in, I'm kind of in school, but I do
online school, but, um, I didnot go to school for photography
.
Actually, I took a class inhigh school, like my sophomore
year of high school or somethinglike that, and um, but I
actually grew up with aprofessional photographer as a
(11:35):
mom.
So he does like portraits andall the like families and
seniors and all of that Um, butI grew up learning a lot from
her and so, um, that's kind ofhow I got back into photography
(11:55):
when I got a little older.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So got back into it because you were helping your
mom.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I always helped my mom out when I was younger
and I always enjoyed taking hercamera and taking pictures and
stuff like that.
And then I kind of ditched itfor a while in high school and
then moved to Walla Walla.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You were helping with props.
Yeah, do the pose.
Yes, look a little sassy.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Flip the hair.
I was always the model for along time, but now I get to be
on the other side of the camera,which I like a lot better.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, does it pay off?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
yeah, I mean um pay off in satisfaction for me and
for the athletes.
Yes, as a money-making industry.
Eh, I'm just starting out too,like I mean, two years into it
isn't a super long time, and soI'm still getting my name out
(12:54):
there, but we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, you're doing a pretty good job.
Thank you, pretty good job.
So the payoff is love of thegame, yeah.
Love of the moment yeah, forsure.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
For sure You're capturing it.
Yeah, yeah, no, I I'm definitelythe kind of person who I have
such like a giving heart and Ilike to be able to provide
things for people and like dothings for people, and so the
love of the game here is, forsure, one of my number one
(13:31):
reasons why I do it because whenI see people post their images
or change their profile picture,or I see family members who
have commented going, oh my gosh, that's such a great image Like
those little things mean somuch to me, knowing that they
loved the work I was able toprovide them.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, didn't Elaine draw recently she?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
did?
She drew one of my images and Iwas.
She asked me.
She was like can, would you beokay if I drew one?
I'm like, absolutely, you don'teven have to ask.
Like go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But all the photos that she takes she doesn't draw,
you know, she draws yours.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
She started drawing some of hers, but I was honored
to have her draw one of mine.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So don't give her too much credit.
So two years in and loving it,yeah, okay, all right, all right
.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
How do you do what you do with the little?
one how do you do it?
Oh boy, that's the little oneum I I'd have to give so much
credit of how I am able to doall this to my family.
Um, I have such a great supportsystem and um I I live with my
mom right now and so she helpsout all the time.
(14:51):
When I go on rodeo weekends shewatches my little one and I'll
go out and I'll come back andsometimes she'll bring him out
if it's close enough.
Um, sometimes she'll bring themout if it's close enough.
But that was kind of one of thebig reasons why I got into
rodeo photography too is becauseI really wanted to after I had
(15:12):
my little one.
Um, I really wanted to raisehim in that community, in the
rodeo community in the Westerncommunity.
Um it's not, it's not somethingI necessarily grew up in, but I
always had a passion for it andI always loved it.
My, my uncle, um he was a bigname cattleman in Nevada and he
(15:40):
still is, but they sold off, umthe ranch that he was managing
right before I was born, and soI never really got the
opportunity to do that and butI've always loved it and so I
knew.
Right after I had my son I waslike this is how I want to raise
you and I'm going to find a wayto do it and be immersed in
(16:04):
this community one way oranother, and so photography's
brought that to me is it becauseof the values, the morals?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
yeah, the sir, yes, ma'am I mean hard work and blue
collar yeah it all.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Just I just love it all and I've always also had
like a love for horses and allof that and not something I ever
really had the opportunity todo growing up.
And so those are theopportunities I want to make for
moving forward and for myfamily moving forward.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
For the little one.
Yeah, if he, if he had to pickan event for him, to you know,
start rolling, get him, get himearly.
I don't know you, I know youprobably won't push him.
Parents should not push theirkids.
If you had to, just you know,hey, check this out.
What, what event?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
well, I'd probably either go team roping or steer
wrestling.
He, he, I have a funny storyabout that, so he has seen some
of my pictures.
I actually have some of the mysteer wrestling images.
There's some hanging in hisroom and he sees them and he
(17:21):
goes.
I want to do that, I want to dothat and I'm like, well, you
can't do it until you're biggerbaby and he's like, he's like
okay, but he has this like.
I don't know if you've everseen them.
They're like the, almostthey're horses, but they were
like the ones they used to sellat Costco and they're like huge
they're like little ponies, butthey're just a stuffed like
(17:43):
thing that you can sit on.
Yeah, he's got one of those, andthen he's got a little like
steer, that bull thing.
That's like a bouncy one thathe can bounce on, and he likes
to get on his horse and fall offonto his steer and wrestle it
because he wants to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So we've kind of already started in on that, so
we'll see okay, now question ishe gonna be a big boy or is he
gonna be one of those tiny guysthat take the scene and make
everybody look shameful?
Because he's a little guythrowing, you know, calves
around?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
so he's.
He's probably gonna be six, six, one, something like that.
He's probably going to be alittle bit bigger, but we'll see
.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay, wiley, wiley, jean, that boy man.
Yeah, not shouting him out, buthe's going to listen.
Not shouting him out oranything, but man, he's a cowboy
, he's good at what he does.
Yes, he does.
(18:52):
He does so travel, work.
You do all that because theparents, mom, yeah, thank
goodness for mom thank goodnessfor moms, for grandmas, for yeah
, when you travel, do you havetraveling buddies or no?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Nope, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Does mom worry about you?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
This is some long hours and you know what that's
those lonely roads.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
She worries about me.
She's got my location.
She'll call me if I don't callher when I get somewhere.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Like well, shout out to mom little one.
Yeah, shout out to mom andlittle one thank you for
allowing this to work for her toI like to be on the road.
Her passion yeah, I, I do too,but I also know long hours in
the arena in the dirt and thentraveling back and forth to and
(19:47):
from is dangerous, so please becareful.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I will.
I do my best, at least.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Photograph for college pro.
I don't like this word Amateurrodeo.
You do ICA, mpra, prca,congrats, oh, congrats, oh, my
goodness yeah, I'm working.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I've got a few contracts for some PRCA rodeos
this summer.
I'm working towards getting mypermit, hopefully within the
next year, but we'll see movingpretty fast, looking good though
yeah, so that, that's awesome,congrats.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Which one do you like the most?
I'm not trying to put you onthe spot, but which one do you
like the most?
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's a hard one.
They all bring something I loveUm, um they all bring something
I love.
Um, I I think right now it'sgoing to be between the college
rodeo or the MPRA Um cause forPRCA.
(21:02):
I'm not allowed to shoot in thearena at the moment yet, so I
haven't really gotten to likeget the kind of like shots and
stuff I want for that.
but my, I like the MPRA becauseI feel like there's a lot more
competition there yeah, um butthe college rodeo has a soft
(21:22):
spot because that's how I got mystart and that, like those
coaches, those college colleges,those athletes, they were also
welcoming to me when I firststarted and so I love to travel
with them and everybody, like,has started to know who I am,
and so it's it's got a soft spotin my heart for sure for being
(21:44):
one of my favorite things toshoot well, good, so college it
is I'll just take college?
Yeah, I think so treasurevalley.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It seems like you are a frequent flyer.
There.
Yeah, is that true?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
uh, kind of I mean, yeah, is that true?
Uh, kind of I mean, um, Itraveled down that way a lot for
family and stuff, so, um, I runinto people there but uh, drew
the coach there is.
He's also the head of theNorthwest region, so I do a lot
of my communicating with him andhe w he was a big part in my
(22:27):
getting started of like allowingme in the arena and kind of
helping me out and so, um, yeah,and I've gotten to know, I've
gotten to know a few people onthe team there become some good
friends with some people, so,but they've also got the biggest
program.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So yeah, yeah, well, one of the best in the nation.
Yeah, one of the best.
I mean even Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, they've got some really good athletes coming
out of there.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm not saying anything bad about the other
schools.
No, absolutely not, I'm justsaying Treasure Valley when you
hear it.
They can compete with the bigdogs in Texas and stuff like
that.
So that's why I say what I sayyeah, shout out to drew.
I text him for the first timethe other day and try to get
something going on.
So I'll end up being theresometime this spring to watch
(23:17):
and interview him and get toknow treasure valley a little
more, since I've been, you know,interviewing a few of those
athletes yeah, you got quite afew of them on here, so man,
mike reed gosh.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He doesn't look like a stellar athlete, but man he he
is right yeah, I mean I haven'twatched him very much I,
because this is his first yearat treasure valley, and then I I
just started getting to knowhis name through MPRA last year.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So yeah, he comes off as a humble kid, right Humble
guy, he's younger than I am, butyou know, he humble guy.
But then when you see him it'sjust like, dude, you are fit,
you are ripped man, yeah.
So yeah, he's, he's, yeah.
And then there's Bella.
Just met her.
She, she's quite the lady, youknow.
(24:11):
So, yeah, no treasure valley,shout them out.
I'll be there soon.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Hopefully you're able to be there yeah, I mean I, I
will be at all of the collegerodeos this spring.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So okay, I'll make sure to run into you.
Yeah, hey, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Favorite event.
Favorite event I think I got togo back to the two that I'm
pushing Clay my little one,towards.
Okay, is team rope intersteerwrestling?
Okay, I don't know why, I lovethem both.
I mean, okay, I've always, I'vealways geared towards the timed
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events more than the roughstock events in my favoritism
anyway, but out of all of them,I think those are some of my
favorites.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So a header or a healer healer why is he?
Why isn't that the toughest one?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
it is, but I like watching it the most because
it's it's tough challenging yeah, like I don't know how they do
it I'm watching it and I'm likeI I don't don't know how, but
and it also I mean because Iphotograph it I get so many cool
shots of it Like I'm watchingthe rope go right under the
(25:36):
right, under the Sears heels,and I'm like, how Like yeah
Right, they just like loopingunder there, I don't know it's
an art, it's a form of art.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Let me tell you Props to the people who can do it.
Yeah, I've had a few ropers onand I ask them header or healer?
And they're like you know, theyalways say header, so, but then
there's always a couple thatsay healer.
Then I ask why?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I can't do it, but I like watching them.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah.
Then they say healer that a lotof them say because they finish
the job, I'm like all right,all right, but it's also the
toughest part of the job, yeah,so all right.
Steer wrestling too, all right.
Okay, which one do you like towatch?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
when you're, when you're in the dirt.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
When you're in the dirt, just know in general which
one do you like to watch.
Not capture, just watch justwatch.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Um, I enjoy watching the tie down rope in a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Um, and I also enjoy saddle Bronx, if I had to choose
one from each event.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, why?
Why is that a bra?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I don't know it, just like I mean I I'm kind of going
to refer.
Like I mean I I'm kind of goingto refer back to uh, your
episode with Mike is it's, it'skind of a dance between the
rider and the horse.
Like there's, it feels a lotmore I'm trying to think of the
word it, just it.
I feel like it flows a lot morethan like bareback does.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, anything flows better than bareback.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, yeah, but it just I don't know.
You just watch it and you canjust see the connection between
the rider and the horse and likethe way that they're doing it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Isn't there a connection with the bareback too
?
I?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
mean look there a connection with the?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
bareback too.
I mean a little different yeah,I know, I'm just trying to have
fun.
So saddle bronc, all right, andtied it down.
Tied, all right.
Which one?
I've already had the capture.
Who's the one person you liketo watch?
(28:08):
All right, which one?
I already had the capture.
Who's?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
the one person you like to watch oh one person,
let's go to.
Let's, let's go to.
Oh, I don't know, I honestlydon't think I have like a one or
two people that I like set myeye on to watch every time,
necessarily, that's that's notnot good, okay, okay.
(28:41):
I really don't.
I mean, I don't know.
I've never been one to like setmy eye on one person, to like
constantly watch, and you knowyou don't like to look at the
talent, though.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I mean, there's so much talent out there.
You're like man, this is a giftand they got it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's like it kind of comes with, just like when I'm
photographing, like I watch, Isee what they're doing and I
watch it, but there's not oneperson that I necessarily like
follow their career.
I don't know, I've just neverbeen one to follow one person's
career necessarily, I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Name one person that someone should look out for
Myself.
Name one person that someoneshould look out for.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Myself.
I have so many names I got togo through.
Just do it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, I really Too much pressure on you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I feel like I haven't had enough time to like Get to
know one person and Like whatyou know, watch them.
I don't really, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Too much pressure for you.
I got it.
I got it.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to put you outthere like that, I'm sorry.
Maybe one day, when you're not,you know, taking photos and
everything, just sit back andtake everything in you know I
think that has something to dowith it is I'm so focused on,
like, capturing every singleperson.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I don't spend much time like focused on just one
because I'm focused on hundreds,because I'm focused on hundreds
you know I got you.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You got to live in the moment though.
Right what we said, you got mybest right.
Do you ever look at resultsafterwards or you just look at
the results?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
of the photos, mostly just the results of the photos.
I usually got to go back andask people like who ended up
winning an event man?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
So it's all business not fun.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It.
It kind of is when I'mphotographing it, it's a lot
Cause I.
I got to focus on the click ofthe button for every time
someone's coming out of theshoot.
I got to be paying attentionand then, right as I'm done, I
mean I leave.
I leave a rodeo with like Idon't know.
(31:10):
I usually leave my collegerodeos in one weekend with 12 to
13,000 photos that I got tosort, goodness Okay.
And then I got to go throughand I uh, I use my day sheets
and I have to name every singlephoto based on the athlete and I
got to put them all in there.
So I've got like hundreds ofnames that I'm rolling through
(31:30):
each weekend and so sometimesit's hard to keep track of just
one or two people.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Favorite event or rodeo sorry, favorite rodeo that
you like to photograph so farfar, so, far so far.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
My favorite rodeo so far has probably been the one
down in Susanville, california,for Lassen College.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The photos that I come out from that rodeo are
just I can't even describe itlike the.
The background and the scenerythere that gets behind it is
just gorgeous.
It's mountains, it's beautifulsunsets, it's incredible.
But this last we were justthere in October and
(32:26):
unfortunately I lost.
So we it was a Friday andSaturday rodeo with slacks and I
lost all of Friday's imagesbecause my hard drive crashed
and I was, and that had so manybeautiful photos on it.
But I recovered a few of them,but most of them are gone.
(32:50):
But I think that's gotta be myfavorite rodeo so far, but
that's probably going to changein this upcoming year, Cause
I've got a lot more on my listthis year.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So let me ask you this.
I know you're in the dirt forhours.
Yes, what event are you able togo?
Take a break, none, let'sreally none.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I, once I step foot in that arena, I do not leave
until the rodeo is over youdon't.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I mean you don't use the bathroom, you don't get a
snack, you don't get a drink.
Do you carry all that stuffwith you?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
no, that's, I take care of everything beforehand
and then I am in that dirt fortwo, three hours, however long
they take okay, gotta take careof yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, when you're on the road, what's your go-to
snack, go-to drink, preferablyenergy drink.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I actually don't drink energy drinks no good
go-to drink is gonna be dietPepsi it just hits different,
right it does go-to snack, pepsi.
Hey, it just hits differentright.
It does oh um, go to snack.
Oh, I do.
(34:15):
A lot of pretzels.
I like pretzels, the salt.
I like salty snacks, saltycrunchy snacks.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It's all the salts depleted because you don't take.
You don't get in any intakewhile you're shooting.
Okay, Mom, you better hear thisand make sure she takes care of
herself in the dirt and on andaround the dirt.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Shout out to mom again, jeez Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Do you eat peanut butter jelly sandwiches?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Not as often as I make them.
I make them a lot for my littleone because he's only two, but
yeah, but I eat them sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, how does he like them?
Give it a rundown.
How does he like them?
Give it a rundown.
How does he like?
How do you make the little onethe peanut butter jelly sandwich
?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, if I'm, if we're, if we're having a good
day, I I'll make, I'll make thema special PB, and J and I'll
I'll do the bread and the peanutbutter and the jelly and I will
cut it into a tractor shape forhim with cookie cutter.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wow, I was wondering.
I was like what, how do you dothat All?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
right, you've got this big tractor cookie cutter
and I'll make him a tractorsandwich and that's what he'll
ask me for On days that we'rejust rushing through it.
It's just plain and simple.
We're, we're throwing somebread, peanut butter jelly and
(35:44):
cutting it in half.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
We're good to go and you don't eat.
He doesn't eat the crust.
He, he'll eat the crust if Iput it on there, okay, but but
like when you are done, cookiecut right, what do?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
you do with the rest.
I'll eat around the crust andI'll throw the crust away.
What, what?
The crust is the best part, allright, I will eat the crust if
there's like the whole sandwich,but I won't.
Once it's cut it's basicallyonly crust, and so I'm not just
eating crust.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So you're wasting a lot of food.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I'm joking, Well fine .
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All right Now does he like his PBJ, Like more peanut
butter to jelly or more jelly topeanut butter?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I make them with more peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because that's how I like them.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He hasn't told me any different.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
yet he's not old enough to have a say yet.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Okay, so diet Pepsi salty pret Pretzels and Tractor
Cut EBJ Sandwich EBJs the morewe know.
Thank you for entertaining that.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That is a stable question.
It hits every now and then, butsince you got a little person,
oh, I make them all the time.
Tractor.
That's the first, by the way,out of 200, this would be 245
episodes.
That's the first I've everheard somebody cookie cutting
their pvj, so thank you that'show he likes them all right, I
(37:12):
think I'm gonna try it.
I think I'm gonna try it ittastes better, trust me yeah,
yeah, okay yeah.
What kind of bread, thoughWhite?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
White.
Yeah, or I'll.
I'll make it sometimes, butOkay.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So how do you think this episode went?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Good.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Still going.
You think you got enough, youthink you got more, or do you
think this is enough?
Now, when you get prca, youcome back and you tell me I
don't know.
I think I, I think I've said alot of what my my experience, my
story is here okay, but I wantyou back on once that you hit
(37:55):
that prca, all right deal and Iwant to know if and when you
took the time to see who won theevents.
At least one rodeo, okay, I betyou, the moment you start
paying attention to that gamechanger, I think, yeah, I think
(38:17):
it would be more fun thananything, because I go to the
rodeos and I love going to theICA, I love going to the NPRAs,
the small town ones, just tolook at the talent.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
What I do is just watch the rides, see how they do
it see how you know, just seejust their demeanor and the way
they just do their thing.
And then it see how you know,just see just their demeanor and
the way they just do theirthing, and then I see how they
perform and it's, there'snothing like it.
There's nothing like it whenyou pay attention to the whole
cowboy, the whole system, thecowgirl, you know it's, it's,
(38:54):
it's amazing.
I mean, you can literally youpay attention, dissect it and
just know it's like wow.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'll have to do it at some rodeos.
I'm not shooting, because ifI'm photographing, it's 100%
focused on getting those shots.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I think you paying more attention, just a little
bit more.
I think it'll be a game changer.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Just saying, just saying.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Just saying, okay, little bit more.
I think I think it'll be a gamechanger, just saying, just said
it, just okay.
Did I miss anything?
Do you want to add anything?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I don't think so.
I think that covers a lot okay,ultimate goal ultimate goal?
I think my ultimate goal rightnow is get my PRCA card.
That's that's my goal at themoment.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
We're working for it, but Okay, well, you, you're
getting there, you pretty muchgot it.
You're just waiting.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
So yeah, it's.
It's a lengthy process, butyeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
That's why, when I found out that I was like dang
all right.
So, emma, you got somethinggoing on.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you, glad that you wereable to make it on the podcast.
Please come back.
I'm very happy to be here.
Please come back.
Tell mom I said hi, I will Givethe little one a hug and just
(40:21):
know you're making it.
You're doing it and people arewatching and you know they're
fans, so shout you out, emma.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Thank you so much appreciate it till next time
alright, yeah, until next time,all right.
Emma Foles how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing good.
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Pretty good.
Thank you for joining me onthis Wednesday evening.
I'm happy to be here.
Yeah, you want to hear a guiltypleasure that I have right now.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh boy, what is it?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, so like last week and days ago exactly 10
days ago, right I watched a liamneeson movie, right.
Okay, it was sinners and saints, it's like ira kind of stuff
back in the 70s and stuff likethat, and I was like you know
what it's a good movie.
It's like you know what?
(01:05):
I need to start watching moreliam neeson movies, right?
So this whole time, like thelast liam neeson movie I ever
watched wasn't taken right itwas rob roy back in the 90s,
1990s were you?
Were you born then or no?
oh, okay I was not your age, sodon't know your age.
(01:31):
But rob roy, very good movie,90s, probably mid 90s I think,
and I was just like you knowwhat just brought me back.
I'm like I think I need to gowatch his movie.
So last 10 days I've beenwatching a Liam Neeson movie
every day every single day,every single day, I watch one
(01:52):
Liam Neeson movie.
You know what one I'm watchingright now, before I got on taken
to taken to have you.
Have you watched Liam Neesonmovies?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh, I don't think so.
I am so bad with I might've.
I'm so bad with, like anyactors or actresses, I could not
tell you who's in what.
I not a skillset.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, well, he has a lot of skill sets.
He has a lot of particularskill sets, so a lot of
particular skill sets.
So I saw taking one and that'swhat he kind of says, you know
and so it's uh, it's prettyfunny because he's like the
nicest hit man.
He always gets the girls, healways is the honest guy.
You know, there's like themovie honest thief, but if you
(02:43):
watch majority of his movieslately they're all the same.
He's lost his, I guess, histhinking, his thoughts, his
memory.
There's a movie Memory.
I mean if you think of a movieor you think of like a plot,
he's done it and he's like oneof the nicest hitmans out there.
(03:03):
So I'm saying this because justto get the nerves away, did it
work?
I'll have to go take a lookcheck it out, check it out and
then for the listeners.
I know that's a little segue,but I wanted to share my guilty
pleasure.
I might do an episode on LiamNeeson movies.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So far, yeah, yeah, so far, so far, so good.
But I just was like I was takenback from that movie and I was
like you know what?
I'm going back to thefilmography and just watching
whatever that's streaming rightnow.
And so I got Netflix, I gotAmazon prime, you name it, I got
(03:48):
it and I'm just watching.
I'm the same way the free, thefree, the free movies.
And I know I'm gonna end upbuying some movies, but my
daughters I have three of themand they all make fun of me for
watching liam neeson movies hey,you want to watch a movie.
They're like what are you gonnawatch liam neeson?
Like yes, they're like no.
So yeah, welcome my world.
(04:08):
Oh man, so not nervous anymore.
Did I help?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
yeah, it did okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
all right, emma foals , you are the em Foles
photographer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, how long have you been doing it?
I started back in.
It was only spring of 2023 thatI started this journey of my
rodeo photography.
So we're going on two years,but it's been some of the best
two years of my life, I got tosay.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I bet I mean you're quite the photographer.
Thank you Small world, you know, elaine.
I do, I'm not going to shouther out.
I'm not going to shout her outbecause she didn't set this up
or give me a heads up.
Hey, get Emma on.
No, I did this without elaine,so no no, we've become very,
(05:10):
very close friends.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Uh, I mean, we've only known each other like eight
months now, like not long.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So that you're her girl.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
what'd she say?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
that you're her girl, is that?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
true?
What'd she say?
That you are her girl.
Yeah, we're pretty tight, wegot pretty tight pretty quick,
and so that's one of the amazingthings that doing rodeo
photography has brought me iswonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Community of people which I definitely needed when I
started this.
Yeah, she, she's, she's goodlady, she's good lady.
So no shout out, but eventhough, say your name.
It is kind of.
But no shout out, elaine, youdon't deserve it.
She listens to all the episodes.
By the way, she said, outsideof my family, she's my number
one fan.
So that's what she said.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so with Elaine knowingall that, it's a big world, but
(06:06):
small world.
You are here, there andeverywhere in between.
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
A lot of help there.
I started local, honestly.
I started with the Walla WallaCommunity College Rodeos, where
I started, and then, after I didthat one, I fell in love with
shooting rodeo and it kind oftook off from there and I
started following around theNorthwest Region College Rodeo
(06:43):
and I have not missed a rodeosince fall of 2023.
I've been at every single oneof their rodeos photographing
for them and it has been a blast.
But uh, it's taken me a lot ofplaces.
I mean I've gone.
I mean not like super far.
I think the furthest we've goneis Susanville, california,
northern California, so it wasabout a 10 hour drive, but each
(07:05):
way.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, I've been there quite a fewtimes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah.
But no, this, this industrytakes me a lot of places.
I've been all over Washington,couple of places in Oregon
gearing up for a very busy 2025season.
My, I don't honestly know if Ihave a free weekend the whole
summer yeah, I saw your schedulelooks, uh, quite, quite
(07:33):
fascinating and busy yeah, and Idon't even have everything on
there at the moment, so butstill still wow, but still still
Wow.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, we started following each other because I
had this one guy, Wiley Coyote.
Yeah, you know that guy.
I think that's when we started.
Yeah, that guy startedfollowing you, you started
following me, and then you knowit's all like OK, elaine, did
you hear that episode?
(08:04):
Yes, I did like okay elaine, didyou hear that episode?
Yes, I did.
I talked about, like, my lovefor photography.
Even though I don't take photos, yeah, I try to live in the
moment, but because I live likevicariously through your guys's
lens, I I love it.
So I really get a kick out ofyour guys's photos.
So, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's funny about me because I'm like I love doing
rodeo photography and takingpictures like that, but I'm also
outside of that.
I'm such a live in the momentperson and I'm usually not
taking very many pictures on myphone or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Right, right, so like live in the moment, right,
right, I went to go see culturewall okay and everybody was on
the phone.
Everybody was on the phone onthe phone is dark as dark as
heck.
You can't really see himbecause the lighting was just
dim.
(09:02):
I was in spokane.
I watched him in spokane, rightand it was just like I can't, I
can't, I can't record it, Ican't record it.
I'll take a picture but I'llcan't record it because why?
You know, and you're in vegas.
I saw red clay strays in vegastwice now, you know, and people
are on their phone.
24 is no.
I went to go see Willie Nelsonand Chris Stapleton this summer,
(09:28):
you know and everybody's oneverybody's on their phone.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I can't do it, you know and you paid all this money
and you're going to skip onyour phone.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, right.
I see my kids do it.
I'm get off your phone, butthey're learning.
They're learning live in themoments.
Live in the moment.
Even though you capture, youcapture the events, the action.
Why still photograph and notvideo?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
oh, I don't.
I've kind of started to moveinto video a little bit just for
the fun of it, but I think whatI love so much about like
photographing is is freezing thememories for these athletes.
It's going to be becomesomething that they can look
(10:27):
back on in 50 years who knows,when they have kids and
grandkids and they can show themlike.
This is what I did, and Iwalked into tons of homes where
there's generations of cowboysand cowgirls hanging on the wall
of their rodeo images and justlike knowing I get to be a part
(10:47):
of that and being able toprovide that makes me really
happy, and so I think I justenjoy freezing those moments and
making those memories versus avideo.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I've seen some of the action photos.
You know the still framedaction photos.
I've seen some of the actionphotos.
You know the still framedaction photos.
Pretty phenomenal work.
Did you go to school for that,did you?
I mean, are you going to schoolfor that?
I don't know if you're still inschool.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm not, I'm in, I'm kind of in school, but I do
online school, but, um, I didnot go to school for photography
.
Actually, I took a class inhigh school, like my sophomore
year of high school or somethinglike that, and um, but I
actually grew up with aprofessional photographer as a
(11:35):
mom.
So he does like portraits andall the like families and
seniors and all of that Um, butI grew up learning a lot from
her and so, um, that's kind ofhow I got back into photography
(11:55):
when I got a little older.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So got back into it because you were helping your
mom.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I always helped my mom out when I was younger
and I always enjoyed taking hercamera and taking pictures and
stuff like that.
And then I kind of ditched itfor a while in high school and
then moved to Walla Walla.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You were helping with props.
Yeah, do the pose.
Yes, look a little sassy.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Flip the hair.
I was always the model for along time, but now I get to be
on the other side of the camera,which I like a lot better.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, does it pay off?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
yeah, I mean um pay off in satisfaction for me and
for the athletes.
Yes, as a money-making industry.
Eh, I'm just starting out too,like I mean, two years into it
isn't a super long time, and soI'm still getting my name out
(12:54):
there, but we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, you're doing a pretty good job.
Thank you, pretty good job.
So the payoff is love of thegame, yeah.
Love of the moment yeah, forsure.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
For sure You're capturing it.
Yeah, yeah, no, I I'm definitelythe kind of person who I have
such like a giving heart and Ilike to be able to provide
things for people and like dothings for people, and so the
love of the game here is, forsure, one of my number one
(13:31):
reasons why I do it because whenI see people post their images
or change their profile picture,or I see family members who
have commented going, oh my gosh, that's such a great image Like
those little things mean somuch to me, knowing that they
loved the work I was able toprovide them.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, didn't Elaine draw recently she?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
did?
She drew one of my images and Iwas.
She asked me.
She was like can, would you beokay if I drew one?
I'm like, absolutely, you don'teven have to ask.
Like go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But all the photos that she takes she doesn't draw,
you know, she draws yours.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
She started drawing some of hers, but I was honored
to have her draw one of mine.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So don't give her too much credit.
So two years in and loving it,yeah, okay, all right, all right
.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
How do you do what you do with the little?
one how do you do it?
Oh boy, that's the little oneum I I'd have to give so much
credit of how I am able to doall this to my family.
Um, I have such a great supportsystem and um I I live with my
mom right now and so she helpsout all the time.
(14:51):
When I go on rodeo weekends shewatches my little one and I'll
go out and I'll come back andsometimes she'll bring him out
if it's close enough.
Um, sometimes she'll bring themout if it's close enough.
But that was kind of one of thebig reasons why I got into
rodeo photography too is becauseI really wanted to after I had
(15:12):
my little one.
Um, I really wanted to raisehim in that community, in the
rodeo community in the Westerncommunity.
Um it's not, it's not somethingI necessarily grew up in, but I
always had a passion for it andI always loved it.
My, my uncle, um he was a bigname cattleman in Nevada and he
(15:40):
still is, but they sold off, umthe ranch that he was managing
right before I was born, and soI never really got the
opportunity to do that and butI've always loved it and so I
knew.
Right after I had my son I waslike this is how I want to raise
you and I'm going to find a wayto do it and be immersed in
(16:04):
this community one way oranother, and so photography's
brought that to me is it becauseof the values, the morals?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
yeah, the sir, yes, ma'am I mean hard work and blue
collar yeah it all.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Just I just love it all and I've always also had
like a love for horses and allof that and not something I ever
really had the opportunity todo growing up.
And so those are theopportunities I want to make for
moving forward and for myfamily moving forward.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
For the little one.
Yeah, if he, if he had to pickan event for him, to you know,
start rolling, get him, get himearly.
I don't know you, I know youprobably won't push him.
Parents should not push theirkids.
If you had to, just you know,hey, check this out.
What, what event?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
well, I'd probably either go team roping or steer
wrestling.
He, he, I have a funny storyabout that, so he has seen some
of my pictures.
I actually have some of the mysteer wrestling images.
There's some hanging in hisroom and he sees them and he
(17:21):
goes.
I want to do that, I want to dothat and I'm like, well, you
can't do it until you're biggerbaby and he's like, he's like
okay, but he has this like.
I don't know if you've everseen them.
They're like the, almostthey're horses, but they were
like the ones they used to sellat Costco and they're like huge
they're like little ponies, butthey're just a stuffed like
(17:43):
thing that you can sit on.
Yeah, he's got one of those, andthen he's got a little like
steer, that bull thing.
That's like a bouncy one thathe can bounce on, and he likes
to get on his horse and fall offonto his steer and wrestle it
because he wants to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So we've kind of already started in on that, so
we'll see okay, now question ishe gonna be a big boy or is he
gonna be one of those tiny guysthat take the scene and make
everybody look shameful?
Because he's a little guythrowing, you know, calves
around?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
so he's.
He's probably gonna be six, six, one, something like that.
He's probably going to be alittle bit bigger, but we'll see
.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay, wiley, wiley, jean, that boy man.
Yeah, not shouting him out, buthe's going to listen.
Not shouting him out oranything, but man, he's a cowboy
, he's good at what he does.
Yes, he does.
(18:52):
He does so travel, work.
You do all that because theparents, mom, yeah, thank
goodness for mom thank goodnessfor moms, for grandmas, for yeah
, when you travel, do you havetraveling buddies or no?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Nope, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Does mom worry about you?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Oh yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
This is some long hours and you know what that's
those lonely roads.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
She worries about me.
She's got my location.
She'll call me if I don't callher when I get somewhere.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Like well, shout out to mom little one.
Yeah, shout out to mom andlittle one thank you for
allowing this to work for her toI like to be on the road.
Her passion yeah, I, I do too,but I also know long hours in
the arena in the dirt and thentraveling back and forth to and
(19:47):
from is dangerous, so please becareful.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I will.
I do my best, at least.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Photograph for college pro.
I don't like this word Amateurrodeo.
You do ICA, mpra, prca,congrats, oh, congrats, oh, my
goodness yeah, I'm working.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I've got a few contracts for some PRCA rodeos
this summer.
I'm working towards getting mypermit, hopefully within the
next year, but we'll see movingpretty fast, looking good though
yeah, so that, that's awesome,congrats.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Which one do you like the most?
I'm not trying to put you onthe spot, but which one do you
like the most?
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's a hard one.
They all bring something I loveUm, um they all bring something
I love.
Um, I I think right now it'sgoing to be between the college
rodeo or the MPRA Um cause forPRCA.
(21:02):
I'm not allowed to shoot in thearena at the moment yet, so I
haven't really gotten to likeget the kind of like shots and
stuff I want for that.
but my, I like the MPRA becauseI feel like there's a lot more
competition there yeah, um butthe college rodeo has a soft
(21:22):
spot because that's how I got mystart and that, like those
coaches, those college colleges,those athletes, they were also
welcoming to me when I firststarted and so I love to travel
with them and everybody, like,has started to know who I am,
and so it's it's got a soft spotin my heart for sure for being
(21:44):
one of my favorite things toshoot well, good, so college it
is I'll just take college?
Yeah, I think so treasurevalley.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It seems like you are a frequent flyer.
There.
Yeah, is that true?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
uh, kind of I mean, yeah, is that true?
Uh, kind of I mean, um, Itraveled down that way a lot for
family and stuff, so, um, I runinto people there but uh, drew
the coach there is.
He's also the head of theNorthwest region, so I do a lot
of my communicating with him andhe w he was a big part in my
(22:27):
getting started of like allowingme in the arena and kind of
helping me out and so, um, yeah,and I've gotten to know, I've
gotten to know a few people onthe team there become some good
friends with some people, so,but they've also got the biggest
program.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So yeah, yeah, well, one of the best in the nation.
Yeah, one of the best.
I mean even Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, they've got some really good athletes coming
out of there.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm not saying anything bad about the other
schools.
No, absolutely not, I'm justsaying Treasure Valley when you
hear it.
They can compete with the bigdogs in Texas and stuff like
that.
So that's why I say what I sayyeah, shout out to drew.
I text him for the first timethe other day and try to get
something going on.
So I'll end up being theresometime this spring to watch
(23:17):
and interview him and get toknow treasure valley a little
more, since I've been, you know,interviewing a few of those
athletes yeah, you got quite afew of them on here, so man,
mike reed gosh.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He doesn't look like a stellar athlete, but man he he
is right yeah, I mean I haven'twatched him very much I,
because this is his first yearat treasure valley, and then I I
just started getting to knowhis name through MPRA last year.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So yeah, he comes off as a humble kid, right Humble
guy, he's younger than I am, butyou know, he humble guy.
But then when you see him it'sjust like, dude, you are fit,
you are ripped man, yeah.
So yeah, he's, he's, yeah.
And then there's Bella.
Just met her.
She, she's quite the lady, youknow.
(24:11):
So, yeah, no treasure valley,shout them out.
I'll be there soon.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Hopefully you're able to be there yeah, I mean I, I
will be at all of the collegerodeos this spring.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So okay, I'll make sure to run into you.
Yeah, hey, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Favorite event.
Favorite event I think I got togo back to the two that I'm
pushing Clay my little one,towards.
Okay, is team rope intersteerwrestling?
Okay, I don't know why, I lovethem both.
I mean, okay, I've always, I'vealways geared towards the timed
(24:55):
events more than the roughstock events in my favoritism
anyway, but out of all of them,I think those are some of my
favorites.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So a header or a healer healer why is he?
Why isn't that the toughest one?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
it is, but I like watching it the most because
it's it's tough challenging yeah, like I don't know how they do
it I'm watching it and I'm likeI I don't don't know how, but
and it also I mean because Iphotograph it I get so many cool
shots of it Like I'm watchingthe rope go right under the
(25:36):
right, under the Sears heels,and I'm like, how Like yeah
Right, they just like loopingunder there, I don't know it's
an art, it's a form of art.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Let me tell you Props to the people who can do it.
Yeah, I've had a few ropers onand I ask them header or healer?
And they're like you know, theyalways say header, so, but then
there's always a couple thatsay healer.
Then I ask why?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I can't do it, but I like watching them.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah.
Then they say healer that a lotof them say because they finish
the job, I'm like all right,all right, but it's also the
toughest part of the job, yeah,so all right.
Steer wrestling too, all right.
Okay, which one do you like towatch?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
when you're, when you're in the dirt.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
When you're in the dirt, just know in general which
one do you like to watch.
Not capture, just watch justwatch.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Um, I enjoy watching the tie down rope in a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Um, and I also enjoy saddle Bronx, if I had to choose
one from each event.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, why?
Why is that a bra?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I don't know it, just like I mean I I'm kind of going
to refer.
Like I mean I I'm kind of goingto refer back to uh, your
episode with Mike is it's, it'skind of a dance between the
rider and the horse.
Like there's, it feels a lotmore I'm trying to think of the
word it, just it.
I feel like it flows a lot morethan like bareback does.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, anything flows better than bareback.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, yeah, but it just I don't know.
You just watch it and you canjust see the connection between
the rider and the horse and likethe way that they're doing it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Isn't there a connection with the bareback too
?
I?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
mean look there a connection with the?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
bareback too.
I mean a little different yeah,I know, I'm just trying to have
fun.
So saddle bronc, all right, andtied it down.
Tied, all right.
Which one?
I've already had the capture.
Who's the one person you liketo watch?
(28:08):
All right, which one?
I already had the capture.
Who's?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
the one person you like to watch oh one person,
let's go to.
Let's, let's go to.
Oh, I don't know, I honestlydon't think I have like a one or
two people that I like set myeye on to watch every time,
necessarily, that's that's notnot good, okay, okay.
(28:41):
I really don't.
I mean, I don't know.
I've never been one to like setmy eye on one person, to like
constantly watch, and you knowyou don't like to look at the
talent, though.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I mean, there's so much talent out there.
You're like man, this is a giftand they got it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's like it kind of comes with, just like when I'm
photographing, like I watch, Isee what they're doing and I
watch it, but there's not oneperson that I necessarily like
follow their career.
I don't know, I've just neverbeen one to follow one person's
career necessarily, I guess.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Name one person that someone should look out for
Myself.
Name one person that someoneshould look out for.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Myself.
I have so many names I got togo through.
Just do it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right, I really Too much pressure on you.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I feel like I haven't had enough time to like Get to
know one person and Like whatyou know, watch them.
I don't really, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Too much pressure for you.
I got it.
I got it.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to put you outthere like that, I'm sorry.
Maybe one day, when you're not,you know, taking photos and
everything, just sit back andtake everything in you know I
think that has something to dowith it is I'm so focused on,
like, capturing every singleperson.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I don't spend much time like focused on just one
because I'm focused on hundreds,because I'm focused on hundreds
you know I got you.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You got to live in the moment though.
Right what we said, you got mybest right.
Do you ever look at resultsafterwards or you just look at
the results?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
of the photos, mostly just the results of the photos.
I usually got to go back andask people like who ended up
winning an event man?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
So it's all business not fun.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It.
It kind of is when I'mphotographing it, it's a lot
Cause I.
I got to focus on the click ofthe button for every time
someone's coming out of theshoot.
I got to be paying attentionand then, right as I'm done, I
mean I leave.
I leave a rodeo with like Idon't know.
(31:10):
I usually leave my collegerodeos in one weekend with 12 to
13,000 photos that I got tosort, goodness Okay.
And then I got to go throughand I uh, I use my day sheets
and I have to name every singlephoto based on the athlete and I
got to put them all in there.
So I've got like hundreds ofnames that I'm rolling through
(31:30):
each weekend and so sometimesit's hard to keep track of just
one or two people.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Favorite event or rodeo sorry, favorite rodeo that
you like to photograph so farfar, so, far so far.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
My favorite rodeo so far has probably been the one
down in Susanville, california,for Lassen College.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
The photos that I come out from that rodeo are
just I can't even describe itlike the.
The background and the scenerythere that gets behind it is
just gorgeous.
It's mountains, it's beautifulsunsets, it's incredible.
But this last we were justthere in October and
(32:26):
unfortunately I lost.
So we it was a Friday andSaturday rodeo with slacks and I
lost all of Friday's imagesbecause my hard drive crashed
and I was, and that had so manybeautiful photos on it.
But I recovered a few of them,but most of them are gone.
(32:50):
But I think that's gotta be myfavorite rodeo so far, but
that's probably going to changein this upcoming year, Cause
I've got a lot more on my listthis year.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So let me ask you this.
I know you're in the dirt forhours.
Yes, what event are you able togo?
Take a break, none, let'sreally none.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I, once I step foot in that arena, I do not leave
until the rodeo is over youdon't.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I mean you don't use the bathroom, you don't get a
snack, you don't get a drink.
Do you carry all that stuffwith you?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
no, that's, I take care of everything beforehand
and then I am in that dirt fortwo, three hours, however long
they take okay, gotta take careof yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, when you're on the road, what's your go-to
snack, go-to drink, preferablyenergy drink.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I actually don't drink energy drinks no good
go-to drink is gonna be dietPepsi it just hits different,
right it does go-to snack, pepsi.
Hey, it just hits differentright.
It does oh um, go to snack.
Oh, I do.
(34:15):
A lot of pretzels.
I like pretzels, the salt.
I like salty snacks, saltycrunchy snacks.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It's all the salts depleted because you don't take.
You don't get in any intakewhile you're shooting.
Okay, Mom, you better hear thisand make sure she takes care of
herself in the dirt and on andaround the dirt.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Shout out to mom again, jeez Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Do you eat peanut butter jelly sandwiches?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Not as often as I make them.
I make them a lot for my littleone because he's only two, but
yeah, but I eat them sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, how does he like them?
Give it a rundown.
How does he like them?
Give it a rundown.
How does he like?
How do you make the little onethe peanut butter jelly sandwich
?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, if I'm, if we're, if we're having a good
day, I I'll make, I'll make thema special PB, and J and I'll
I'll do the bread and the peanutbutter and the jelly and I will
cut it into a tractor shape forhim with cookie cutter.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wow, I was wondering.
I was like what, how do you dothat All?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
right, you've got this big tractor cookie cutter
and I'll make him a tractorsandwich and that's what he'll
ask me for On days that we'rejust rushing through it.
It's just plain and simple.
We're, we're throwing somebread, peanut butter jelly and
(35:44):
cutting it in half.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
We're good to go and you don't eat.
He doesn't eat the crust.
He, he'll eat the crust if Iput it on there, okay, but but
like when you are done, cookiecut right, what do?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
you do with the rest.
I'll eat around the crust andI'll throw the crust away.
What, what?
The crust is the best part, allright, I will eat the crust if
there's like the whole sandwich,but I won't.
Once it's cut it's basicallyonly crust, and so I'm not just
eating crust.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So you're wasting a lot of food.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I'm joking, Well fine .
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All right Now does he like his PBJ, Like more peanut
butter to jelly or more jelly topeanut butter?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I make them with more peanut butter to jelly.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because that's how I like them.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
He hasn't told me any different.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
yet he's not old enough to have a say yet.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Okay, so diet Pepsi salty pret Pretzels and Tractor
Cut EBJ Sandwich EBJs the morewe know.
Thank you for entertaining that.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
That is a stable question.
It hits every now and then, butsince you got a little person,
oh, I make them all the time.
Tractor.
That's the first, by the way,out of 200, this would be 245
episodes.
That's the first I've everheard somebody cookie cutting
their pvj, so thank you that'show he likes them all right, I
(37:12):
think I'm gonna try it.
I think I'm gonna try it ittastes better, trust me yeah,
yeah, okay yeah.
What kind of bread, thoughWhite?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
White.
Yeah, or I'll.
I'll make it sometimes, butOkay.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So how do you think this episode went?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Good.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Still going.
You think you got enough, youthink you got more, or do you
think this is enough?
Now, when you get prca, youcome back and you tell me I
don't know.
I think I, I think I've said alot of what my my experience, my
story is here okay, but I wantyou back on once that you hit
(37:55):
that prca, all right deal and Iwant to know if and when you
took the time to see who won theevents.
At least one rodeo, okay, I betyou, the moment you start
paying attention to that gamechanger, I think, yeah, I think
(38:17):
it would be more fun thananything, because I go to the
rodeos and I love going to theICA, I love going to the NPRAs,
the small town ones, just tolook at the talent.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
What I do is just watch the rides, see how they do
it see how you know, just seejust their demeanor and the way
they just do their thing.
And then it see how you know,just see just their demeanor and
the way they just do theirthing, and then I see how they
perform and it's, there'snothing like it.
There's nothing like it whenyou pay attention to the whole
cowboy, the whole system, thecowgirl, you know it's, it's,
(38:54):
it's amazing.
I mean, you can literally youpay attention, dissect it and
just know it's like wow.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'll have to do it at some rodeos.
I'm not shooting, because ifI'm photographing, it's 100%
focused on getting those shots.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I think you paying more attention, just a little
bit more.
I think it'll be a game changer.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Just saying, just saying.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Just saying, okay, little bit more.
I think I think it'll be a gamechanger, just saying, just said
it, just okay.
Did I miss anything?
Do you want to add anything?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I don't think so.
I think that covers a lot okay,ultimate goal ultimate goal?
I think my ultimate goal rightnow is get my PRCA card.
That's that's my goal at themoment.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
We're working for it, but Okay, well, you, you're
getting there, you pretty muchgot it.
You're just waiting.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
So yeah, it's.
It's a lengthy process, butyeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
That's why, when I found out that I was like dang
all right.
So, emma, you got somethinggoing on.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you, glad that you wereable to make it on the podcast.
Please come back.
I'm very happy to be here.
Please come back.
Tell mom I said hi, I will Givethe little one a hug and just
(40:21):
know you're making it.
You're doing it and people arewatching and you know they're
fans, so shout you out, emma.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Thank you so much appreciate it till next time
alright, yeah, until next time,all right.
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