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Could a single track change the way you hear music? This episode of "Milk Crates and Turntables" promises to explore that possibility with a brand-new focus and format. After a busy November that included a cruise and family holidays, I return to my sanctuary with an upgraded microphone and a commitment to break down one standout song each week. Join me and familiar voices like Allison, Jim, Dave, and Patty as we kick off this fresh chapter, inviting you to engage and share your own thoughts on the tracks that move you.

Revisit the golden era of funk as we highlight the Ohio Players' iconic "Skin Tight" album, a defining moment in music history. Whether you're humming along to "Name That Tune" or just vibing with the beats, we’ll explore the band's transformation from the Ohio Untouchables to funk legends. This isn't just a walk down memory lane—it's a deep dive into how bands like Kool and the Gang and Sly and the Family Stone laid the groundwork for today's artists, who continue to keep the funk alive through sampling and reinterpretation.

Nostalgia hits a high note as we wander through the 70s and 80s, sharing personal stories and pop culture moments that left a mark. From the complex ties in the music industry featuring giants like Sean "Diddy" Combs and Andre Harrell, to the timeless tunes of Sade and Al B. Sure, this episode is rich with music and memories that have shaped our lives. As I approach my 61st birthday and near the milestone of 200 episodes, I reflect on this podcast as my personal "church"—a therapeutic ritual that connects us all through the universal language of music.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the podcast.
You know the name, I'm notgoing to say it.
Streaming live right now over,I don't know, facebook, youtube,
twitch, g Live, d Live, a bunchof different.
I got a new microphone.
This is a good one too.
Allison, what's up my friend?

(00:22):
To Allison, what's up my friend?
Yeah, where was I?
I'm streaming live.
I'm doing it live.
I'm back.
I'm back.
I'm in my church.
I'm in my church.
I have to get used to this newmic.

(00:44):
See, if I talk back here, itsounds different, but if I talk
right here, it sounds good.
Gives me that bass, that BarryWhite voice.
Patty, good to see you again.
That's a new lamp.
You know that lamp.
Everybody knows that lamp.
That's a new lamp.
You know that lamp.

(01:05):
Everybody knows that lamp.
That's my Christmas lamp.
Yeah, so it's just me.
I think you all know kind ofwhat happened and I'm not going
to get into that.
Jim Harris, king of thevillages in Florida, the golf

(01:26):
cart king, that's what I'll callhim.
Yeah, so it's going to be justme.
Like I said, I think most ofyou might know what happened and
that's that.
We move on from that.
We just do things differently.
Now this is another iteration.
Is that what you say?

(01:47):
How come I'm not?
Look at this.
I like this song.
There we go.
Yeah, it's another iteration ofMilk, crates and Turntables,
episode 165 or something it's.
The third change Is mymicrophone too loud.

(02:10):
I've come out of exile.
November was a fucking busy,busy month for me.
My mic sound loud, or is thatjust me?
See, this is the thing.
When you get a new mic and youand you, you don't really.
You can't gauge it becauseyou're talking to yourself,
right, but I'll do all, right,I'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah, november was crazy.

(02:36):
I started the month off on acruise so I couldn't do the show
.
Then I came back and it wasVeterans Day and that week was
crazy busy for me.
And in the following week I'mglad to be back, allison,
allison Lundy says glad you'reback.
The following week was theinfamous Things Are Changing

(03:01):
episode.
You can go back and listen toit.
It stands out, you'll knowwhich one it is.
And then again, I got busyThanksgiving, so I kind of took
the month off.
Yeah, but I'm back with a newformat Now.
I'm just.
You know, it's a new format.

(03:22):
Everything is subject to change.
Now I'm not freaking out like Iused to, and like, what am I
going to do?
And I used to come into theselike when things were changing
and I would be all anxious and Ihope it works, because I love
this.
I mean, this month, let me tellyou this.
This month, let me tell youthis this month I really came to

(03:44):
the conclusion that this, thisshow, Milk Crates and Turntables
for whatever it is, forwhatever it is, with its cult
following, as I say, is mychurch.
This is like my church.
This is the one time during theweek where I get to just

(04:10):
fucking talk about music for aslong as I want, which that's
church to me.
And now that I'm doing it alone, I don't care.
Hey, church, it only takes oneright, just like with an AA
meeting, it only takes two tohave a meeting.
Well, I got allison and jim anddave and patty, so we got a

(04:31):
meeting, we got a show, we got ashow.
So this is the new format, thisis what I've, this is what I've
come up with and and you guyshave input now, you've been,
you've been watching andlistening and if, if you have
any ideas, you can always let meknow.
Uh, you know, I'll give you my,you can read me.

(04:52):
You can reach me at the,because I have this milk crates
and turntables at gmailcom, butI never really check it.
And why do I fucking have it, Idon't't know.
But if you have any ideas, Iguess I can start checking it.
Let me know.
It's probably got a lot of shitin there.
I'm a bad host.

(05:12):
I'm a bad podcaster.
I should be checking to see ifyou guys are reaching out to me,
but everyone reaches out to methrough Facebook and stuff like
that.
So what I'm going to do is I'mtaking a particular song.
I was driving.
This came up last week and I'mdriving in the car and I don't

(05:34):
know.
I'm doing whatever I'm doing,going to whatever meeting or
whatever I'm going to and thissong comes on the radio.
This song comes on the radio.
This song comes on the radioand I'm like you know what?
Let me see, it's right here.
Let me see Mm-hmm, this songright here.

(06:04):
Mm-hmm, this song right here.
I was like this is a badass,motherfucking song.
This is my.
This was my jam back in the day.
I was just a kid, but it turnedthis up.

(06:30):
So I'm going to stop that rightthere, because I'm going to talk
about this song, and so whatI'm going to do is maybe from
week to week I'm just going topick a song that I hear and I'm
going to break it down.
I'm just going to break it down, but first I'm going to give
like 10 facts about the song orabout the band.
You know kind of cool shit.
Give you a little background onthe song.

(06:51):
You know I was getting nope,not Sly, no, dave Phillips, king
of the 45s.
You just got an F, oh boy, youknow the song.
You just guessed wrong.
I just made that up.
Is that my new tagline?
Now?
You know the song, you just gotit wrong.

(07:12):
So I'm hearing the song and I'mlike you know what?
Why don't I just do this?
Why don't I just grab a songeach week, maybe two, and break
it down?
Like I said, I'm going to giveyou 10 facts about the band or
the song.
I'm going to give you like thelineup.
This is a 70s song, so it'llappeal to some people.

(07:35):
But I also, if any like say,gen Xers are listening.
Gen Xers are starting, they'returning out.
You know they grew up, gen Xersgrew up.
Gen Xs are starting to turn inthe.
You know they grew up.
Gen Xs grew up and now, well,okay, they're trying to take
credit for the shit that boomersdid, but that's okay, that's
okay.
They act like they invented bigwheels jumping over trash

(07:56):
barrels.
It's all right.
It's all right, I'll give it tothem.
They didn't invent it, but youknow, hey, good for you.
So gen x is, you know, Inoticed a lot of them like older
music.
So what I'm doing is, uh, I'mgonna take the song and,
hopefully, like they hear it andgo, you know what?
That's a pretty fucking coolsong.
Then they get turned on toeither the song or the band or

(08:19):
whatever.
So, dave phillips, king of the45s, I'm going to play this bass
line and let me see if you canguess it again.
Here we go.
That's some shit right there.
Oh, listen to that.

(08:39):
Wow, wow, that's that.
That fucking bass line is justis insane, it's insanely good.
It might sound simple to you,but that is a fucking groove of
a bass line.

(08:59):
Now, dave phillips, I'm gonnawait for you to message in.
Tell me if you, you know thesong, if anybody knows what it
is.
It's kind of like name thattune.
Oh see, I just added somethingto the show.
Now I'm going to tell you why Ichanged things up.
This is I'm not beating a deadhorse here.

(09:20):
I'm not beating a dead horsehere.
That sounded like I said horsehere.
Right, I'm not going to beat adead horse horse, but my
ex-co-host Lou, he didn't reallylike the episode where I just

(09:43):
kind of called him out, and well, rightfully, maybe.
You know, I don't know right,wrong or indifferent it happened
.
And he leaves this no, not playthat funky music, no, no.
He leaves this somewhatscathing comment on the YouTube
channel right Underneath.

(10:04):
You got to go read it.
Go to the YouTube channel themilk crates and turntables.
It's not sly.
No, uh, and, and under thatepisode I think it's called
where you know when politicsgets in the way or whatever.
He leaves this scathing comment, uh, and he started nope, not

(10:27):
hollywood swinging, nope, um,and he's.
And he says he says the podcastis um, it relies on ai too much
now, because I I played the a,you know the, the, you make the
call and I pulled them upthrough AI.
It's easier and they were goodanyway.

(10:52):
And he says that the podcastMilk Crates and Turntables all
right, people just don't getupset.
He called it a sinking shipLike this is my podcast was
called a sinking ship by adisgruntled ex-employee.

(11:15):
I shouldn't say that and and Iwant to let you know I harbor no
ill will against, against lou,I don't.
I.
I was never mad at him, I wasnever angry, um, and this is
just to finish that off becauseI breached the subject so.
But he said I relied too muchon ai.
The show turned into a gameshow.

(11:36):
He called it a game show, butit was entertaining for the
people.
I'm not defending, I'm just,you know, and he showed up every
week.
So and it's a sinking ship.
So I said you know what?
I will take that criticism.
I will take that criticismAbsolutely.

(11:57):
If that's what he thought itwas, then you know what.
That's his parting gift to me.
In other words, you've got tochange your shit up sometime Now
.
I got a little lost in it.
This isn't an excuse, but I'mrunning a nonprofit Now.
I started a nonprofit.
I'm running it.
It's doing pretty good.
A veteran nonprofit One man,one Mic Foundation.

(12:19):
If you want to see what we'redoing, go to
onemanonemicfoundationorg.
And if you're a see what we'redoing, go to one man, one Mike
foundationorg.
And if you're a veteran andyou're interested, reach out to
me.
You could do it through thewebsite.
So I have.
I did get lazy.
I did get lazy for a littlewhile.
It's going to happen after 160plus episodes but for the most

(12:41):
part, I'm back and and I'mtaking that parting gift and I'm
changing it and I'm going tomake it informative and at the
same time and this is all new soyou guys that are watching are
helping to kind of mold this.
So we already started off withName that Tune, which isn't that

(13:03):
a game show, though Would thatbe disappointing?
Oh, you know what I didn't dofor the, for the viewers, for
the viewers that don't want thepeople that are watching.
You know, I'm missing somethingright?
What's missing in my screen,what's missing on my that you
see every way.
It's noticeable.
You're probably not going tonotice, but if you're watching,
this is what I'm missing.
Just one get.
But if you're watching, this iswhat I'm missing, this is what.

(13:24):
Get rid of that, get rid ofthat.
Get rid of that, get rid ofthat.
No, and got it.
I don't know what happened.
What the fuck happened.
All right, let me get rid ofthat and try it again.
Something happened to this app.
Oh, here we go there, you goBehind behind me.

(13:49):
I lit up the world.
There you go.
All right, I don't even knowwhere I was.
So, yeah, game show, whatever.
So we're gonna play uh kind ofname that tune and dave phillips
is is.
Is this bombing?
Uh, let me, let me play thebeginning again.
I'll let it go a little longer.
It's not Sly and the FamilyStone.
It's not play that funky music,white Boy.

(14:14):
No, let's hear it.
This was their first hit.
This band is their first album.
First hit Came out in 74, 1974.

(14:38):
Here we go, you are bad, badMisses, and don't skin tight
Riches.
Here we go, you are bad, badmissus, and don't skin tight
bitches Running.
For I mean, come on, you got toknow this song was on the radio
.
It charted.
Come on, come on, dave Phillips.

(14:59):
Now, this is funk, okay, but itwas on the radio.
Dave Phillips was around at 74.
I was around at 74 listening toit.
Dave's older than me, patty,was around at 74, listen, I'm
sure she heard it a number oftimes, yeah, a lot actually, but
I'm not getting anything.

(15:20):
So the name of the song is SkinTight by my favorite funk group,
oh, alison Lundy, alison Lundyfor the listeners on the podcast
channels.
She said oh my God, mydrug-induced ears that a girl.

(15:41):
Well, okay, I don't thinkyou're alone there.
I don't think you're alone.
I'm just gonna referencepatty's 45s, like I do almost
every show that she sent me.
That smell like patchouli andincense because I was covering
up the weed smell.
I know, here we go again, butpatty just had to bring it up.

(16:03):
So, yeah, the name of the songis Skin Tight by the Ohio
Players, by the Ohio Players.
Right Now.
They formed the Ohio Playersformed in 1959.
Ah, there you go.
Oh Jesus, dave Phillips justabsolutely dated himself.

(16:25):
He said skin tight was a greatbump song.
Now, that was a dance back inthe day.
Do the bump, do the bump?
Yeah, that hip check, it's likea little hip check.
Right, do the bump?
Good one, dave phill, youredeemed yourself.
Patty says OMG, yep, yep, theOhio players.

(16:47):
They formed in 1959.
Now it seems like a long timeago, and it is, but when they
came out in 74, they had puttheir time in right.
They put their time in.
They were originally called theOhio Untouchables.
Right Now they're known fortheir funk, soul r&b.
Uh, but they're funk, they're,they're a funk band.

(17:12):
Uh, the breakthrough album wasthis one, skin tight.
It came out in 74, uh, and theyhad a couple, couple hits on it
.
Um, it was in the hot 100 in1975.
Love roller coaster was I'msorry, I jumped, I jumped, I
jumped the coaster uh, theyalways had these really kind of

(17:36):
not like herb albert albumcovers.
But the ohio players had somepretty pretty sexy black girls
on the albums of their covers.
I'll just say that when you're akid you're looking at that,
you're like god damn right, andlet me see, and they've, uh, the

(17:57):
ohio players have been sampledquite a bit.
But rap, rap, kind of.
You know, I, I have a, I have anot a love hate with with
sampling.
I I don't think it's lazy.
In a sense, I think the upsideof sampling from hip-hop bands
is they they bring attention tothe song again, like so this

(18:20):
song gets sampled.
Probably a whole generationnever heard it, but all of a
sudden they hear it sampled in arap song.
Someone's gonna dig it out,someone's gonna go listen to it,
someone's gonna play it onspotify, someone's gonna buy the
album.
So it kind of gives them alittle bit of uh.
To use dave phillips word bumpgives them a little bump.

(18:45):
So they had a bunch of lineupchanges over the years, but the
original lineup was LeroySugarfoot Bonner.
He was the lead vocalist ofguitar and I'm going to get to
him in a second because there'ssomebody Sly, yeah, sly Stone
was the father of disco.

(19:05):
Yeah, yeah, sly and the FamilyStone is in a category all their
own.
They literally are in acategory all their own.
They, they, they literally arein a category all their own.
Yeah, you can call them funk,uh, but they're just on like the

(19:27):
, the highest level, that bandthat it's fucking genius, just
genius.
Uh, sly and the family stone.
But the ohio players you hadwalter junie morrison on
keyboards, vocal and guitar.
You have billy beck, keyboardsand vocals, clarence satch,
satchel, saxophone and vocals.
Robert peanut word bass, guitar.

(19:50):
That see that shit.
Ah, that's like when I hearthat, I'm just like damn, that
shit's good.
And Michael Guitar Smith,michael Guitar Smith on drums,

(20:13):
literally on drums.
Yeah, so, and they went througha bunch of lineups.
But this is the thing aboutwhere the Ohio players and Kool
and the Gang and Sly and theFamily Stone, there's one thing
that all those bands have incommon all their music and it's
an integral part of funk andit's really not talked about.

(20:36):
Like in funk the bass is likethe lead guitar.
It really is.
The bass is prominent in mostall funk songs.
But there's another thing yeah,bass guitar, like Dave Phillips
said, king of the 45s.
The bass is like the, the leadguitar, the horn section.

(20:56):
They all have a horn section.
That's what adds to that.
That horn section in funk bandsjust gives it that next level
of sound.
That's what.
It's almost what separates itfrom soul and r&b.
That's just my opinion.
But horn section is veryintricate in good funk bands and

(21:22):
you had Clarence Satchelplaying saxophone, alto, antenna
, walter Junie Morrison, who'sthe keyboards and vocal guy, but
he also played the horn, playedhorns in the arrangements.
But that's what separates itand they have a really good and

(21:44):
that horn section is only threepeople.
Now they would go on tour andthey would have these
outstanding musicians go outwith them and play and they were
a big live band.
They were a big live band Likethey put on big shows, which was
the 70s, right.
So if you think about it, the70s it's all about big shows.

(22:05):
You know other than the, youknow like the well, even the who
and the Rolling Stones, you getinto rock.
They were big productions.
They weren't big productions,they were big shows, loud,
action-packed.
Now you had like the Ohioplayers would go out, or
parliament, or funkadelic,parliament, funkadelic uh, you

(22:25):
know sly and the family stoneand you got a lot of people up
on stage and there's a lot goingon for the, for the, the
concert goer.
There's a lot going on, uh,which is brilliant because it's
not a distraction, it, it justadds to the appeal and the
energy of the show for theaudience.
And that's why they did thatand some of them put on some

(22:50):
really good shows, some of them.
So Skin Tight was produced, sothey produced this album.
The Ohio players were theproducers, which is rare back
then.
Which is rare Jay Giles had ahorn section, dave Phillips yep,

(23:10):
they did and they got toproduce this album and it
charted, it sold, it has stayingpower.
April, welcome to the show.
April, april, benign earth,wind and fire, exactly exactly

(23:33):
now.
Their horn section and their bigshows and they're more r&b, uh,
soul than funk.
But they have their share offunky songs.
But horn section, again,unbelievable.
But the horn section in thissong it sounds like there's like

(23:53):
I don't know.
Five, six, seven horns going atthe same time.
There's only three of them.
There's only three of themdoing it.
And hold on, let me, just threeof them.
There's only three of themdoing it.
And hold on, let me just jumpthis ahead, all right.
So I'm going to start thisagain.
We're going to play this andI'm just going to.
I might stop it, I don't know.
Like I said, this is all new.

(24:13):
Oh, and, by the way, I realizedthat I can play this song.
Facebook used to shut the videodown.
They would stop the live streamor interrupt it or it would be
muted.
But now what they do is I getthese messages and it says your

(24:35):
video has been monetized by therights owner of the video, which
makes all the sense in theworld.
Like they should get paid.
If I'm playing this song, I'mnot paying them, and that's a
debate in the podcasting world.
If you should play music that'snot yours, but I guess it's

(24:56):
it's.
It's the way you look at it.
I'm promoting it, I'm sayingwho it is, I'm not claiming the
rights to it, so they don't takeit down anymore.
And YouTube the thing you don'twant on a YouTube channel is a
strike.
If you get a strike againstyour channel, that's not good
because it's literally threestrikes and your channel is done

(25:18):
.
They kick it off the platformand what they give me is a lot
of copyright violations.
That doesn't affect the channeland I think, again, any
monetization goes to, you know,the, the creator of the song,
but uh, so I'm gonna startplaying these songs until they

(25:39):
tell me not to so.
And here we go.
I'm gonna play this one.
All I'm gonna do commentaryduring it.
But you know, here we go.
I just love this fucking bassline.
Now the lead singer.

(26:05):
There's a band that came alongin the 80s.
It sounds a little like theOhio Place singer.
You are bad, bad, mrs, oh yeah,and those skin-tight bitches,
yeah, how could there be peoplethat don't like this?

(26:33):
There's that horn section there.
It is.
Sounds like Chicago, doesn't it?
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
Little Chicago in that.
That's where I get that vibefrom, that.

(26:55):
Go, go, go, go, go go.
So there's two versions of thissong.
I'm going to end up cuttingthis short because there's two
versions.
There's the radio edit of thissong, which is three minutes and

(27:17):
38 seconds long.
But I don't like the radio edit.
Love the lyrics Sing it baby,skin tight, yeah.
Sing it, baby, skintight, yeah.

(27:42):
So the other version of thesong is 7 minutes and 54 seconds
and I'm not playing the 7minutes.
I have it.
That's the version I have whenI'm in my car listening to this.
It's fuck, it's cranked Windowsopen Like you're gonna hear

(28:04):
this song.
There's that Chicago vibe again.
Oh, sly Sly.
And the Family Stone was fun.
Yeah, april, yeah, alright,listen to his voice, right,

(28:33):
let's see.
My favorite part of the song iscoming up, right, it's coming up
.
This little keyboard solocoming, but just fucking Love

(29:05):
that shit.
This is where it startsBreakdown.

(29:30):
Yeah, that.
The rest of it is just a jam ifyou keep listening to this
version.
No, no, no.
Patty says do they sing money?
No, no, isn't money.
Uh, isn't that the?
Um, let me, for the love ofmoney, is that?

(29:51):
No, it's not the oj's.
Ah, fuck, you caught me offguard.
Um, let me, let me look.
Love of money.
It's a song.
How can I forget that the O itis the OJs?
I was like, okay, all right,it's the OJs, for the love of

(30:13):
money.
So that song, I'm just sayingthat is that's that.
Shit is just absolute funk,royalty right there.
That's fucking perfect, perfectfunk song.
Turn it up, let's play this.
Oh See, I got used to havingmusic in the background.

(30:35):
Dave Phillips King of the 45smessages in Roxbury Crossing was
the band that played Tony C'sin the living room back in the
day.
Okay, all right, that's whereI'm originally from, roxbury,
right down the street fromRoxbury Crossing, actually.
Yeah, we were the last whitefamily to move out of the

(30:55):
projects, so what, so what I cansay?
I was oppressed, shit.
Here we go.
I'm not gonna go down that road.
Yeah, they started throwingrocks through our windows, but
you know what are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
Uh, you know what?

(31:16):
So this came out in 74.
Uh, what else do?
We got on this.
You know what I'm going to giveyou now that we kind of the
song.
I could talk about the song allnight.
I really could, but I think youget it.
The bass line, the horns oh,this is what I wanted to pull up

(31:37):
.
So the guy the singer right,this is what I wanted to pull up
.
So the guy the singer right,walter Junie Morrison, I'm going
to pull this up.

(31:57):
And this, this, I don't know,this guy sounds a little like
him.
A little like him, maybe not,Maybe by design, maybe not, but
here we go.
Why won't it play now?
Let's get out of here.

(32:17):
Here we go.
Does he sound like him?
Skin tight, right Lead singerfrom Cameo.
Sounded a little like the Ohioplayers.
Sounded like Junie, I don'tknow, I'm just saying Sounds a

(32:46):
little.
But hey, listen Cameo, they hada nice little run too.
They had a nice little run.
Now this is their big song.
I'm going to jump into anothersong.
I'm going to get back in aminute.
I have the top 10 songs of theyear from 1974.
I got some movies that came outin 74.

(33:09):
Now this podcast, this iterationof Milk, creates a Turntable.
I don't know.
I don't think it's going to betwo hours.
It's going to range from whatmood I'm in and what I'm talking
about.
Tonight I might just hit anhour and then we build from
there.
We build from there and you getto listen to some pretty

(33:31):
fucking cool songs.
But I'm going to get back toOhio Players at 9-7-1,.
But now that I'm on this bandright here, I mean, everyone
loves Cameo, right, everybodyloves Cameo.
They're on the radio.
I don't care if you were ametalhead or a new wave junkie
or whatever you wanted.
Everybody liked fucking Cameo.
I don't care who.

(33:52):
You were right, but this, thissong and you know this is an
interesting song by them, theone I'm about to play, because
they don't do the majority ofthe singing in the song and it
was a minor hit for them, whichI found interesting that they

(34:14):
don't do the majority of thesinging.
They have, like they do alittle bit of like, uh the hook,
uh, dave phillips, a very goodshow, good, buddy, I'm glad.
I'm glad you like the first.
The new iteration of mill cratesand turntables.
It's gonna be.
It's gonna be a lot, a lot morefun now, now that I'm gonna

(34:36):
play music and we can listen tomusic together and hang out.
If you're driving in your carlistening, you get to hear some
good song and learn a little bitabout it, and you know.
Then we'll see where it goesfrom here.
But you know what I'm going todo right now.
I got this.
I'm going to bite my fingernail.
Hold on, I had this littlepiece.

(35:01):
You ever have that on yourfingernail, like there's just
one little corner of yourfingernail it's like it's a
little sharp and you're too lazyto go get a pair of clippers.
You know what I mean.
So you bite it off.
That's what I just did.
Now, this song, this song cameout.
Let me see, I'm going to say,this song came out that I'm

(35:25):
about to play, by Cameo.
I think it was probably 86.
I think the song came out in 86.
I'm pretty sure I'm right aboutthat.
It's a great song by Cameo, butagain, they do not do the
majority singing, they do thehook.
So here we go.

(35:46):
Another little bass in there.
Don't, don't, don't, don't,don't.
Yeah, it's like candy.
I can feel it when you talk,even when you talk.
This is a great song and it'sthe bass yes, I'm down there

(36:11):
Carries it right through.
Can you feel it too, just likeI do?
This life is starting now.
It's the same feeling I alwaysseem to be.
Yeah, love Cameo.
Right, they were good clubmusic.

(36:33):
I'll tell you that Back in theday, Cameo, they were steady in
the clubs and in the bars too.
Yeah, maybe I'll talk aboutthem one of these episodes.
Cameo is an interesting band,so you know what I'm going to do

(36:54):
.
Let me give you, yeah, groovy.
Right, there you go.
Look at you, patty Ossie andDave Phillips throwing out some
heavy, heavy hitting, boomershit tonight, like they've been
waiting for the show to comeback.
Like Dave Phillips brings upthe bump.

(37:15):
Like what the fuck?
I haven't heard about the bumpin fucking 40 years.
Dave Phillips, then Patty dropsthe groovy.
I think we should bring thatword back.
What do you think Groovy?
That shit's groovy.
I'm not just going to startsaying it, I'm just going to

(37:37):
start saying that every once ina while.
That shit's groovy man.
And just see what people do.
Yeah, just act like I say itall the time oh, yeah, yeah, you
wanted me for lunch.
Groovy man, yeah, groovy.
Let's see what they do.
What do you mean?
Groovy?
What I'm just saying, it'sfucking groovy.

(37:59):
What, what the fuck is groovy?
What I'm just saying, it'sfucking groovy.
What, what the fuck is groovy?
Yeah, come on, what does itsound like?
And see, the word groovy soundsgroovy like.
When you say it, you kind ofknow what it means.
Even if you don't know what itmeans, you kind of know, right,
it's the way you say it too.
You don't say groovy, no, it'sgroovy, no, you don't do that

(38:25):
either.
Groovy, no, no, no, you're likegroovy is like groovy.
Yeah, groovy man, like you knowwhat it is.
You know it's fucked up.
The more you say it, the morefucked up it sounds Like.
Keep saying groovy by about thetenth time, like I just did,

(38:46):
you're going to go.
That's kind of a fucked up word.
It really doesn't mean anything.
Cool.
Cool's there.
Cool's always used.
Cool has been around sinceFonzie right, so let me give you
the.
Since we're talking about 74,listen to this top 10 songs of

(39:11):
the year.
What the fuck is groovy?
Unless you're in the groove.
That's right, buddy.
Dave Phillips, king of the 45s,you two guys are rolling.
You two made this show.
And then Allison with thedrug-induced comment you guys
own the show tonight.
You own it.
Came right out, came right outfrom the gate.

(39:35):
Drug-induced years, the bumpgroovy.
If this is not a fucking boomerepisode, I don't know what is,
but hopefully there's people outthere listening that like it,
you know.
Now listen to this top 10.
Listen to how eclectic this top10 was for the year of 1974.

(39:56):
Top 10 songs of 1974.
Turn that down a little.
Number 10 in 1974 was EricClapton, his remake, his cover
of I Shot the Sheriff.
Which one do you like better?

(40:17):
By the way, you like the BobMarley version Wait a minute.
Alison Lundy says wait till Iput fairy lights on my bong.
Oh, that's fucking beautiful.
We just had a bong reference.
This show has already farexceeded my expectations.

(40:40):
It has already far exceeded myexpectations.
It has already far exceeded myexpectations.
I think this is going to be agood, fun format for a little
while and we'll see what evolves.
We'll see what comes out of it.
So number 10 in 1974 was I Shotthe Sheriff and I said you like

(41:04):
the Eric Clapton version or theBob Marley version, right, I
don't know.
All right, let me see 80s R&Bhits.
Let me just let me throw someshit out here.
I don't like these.
Sometimes, these playlists.
They look good on Spotify.
Then you go and you're likethey're not real, it's not
really that good.
Oh, this song, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh shit.

(41:31):
I'm going to tell you this.
All right, I'm going to tellyou.
I'm just going to say this, I'mjust going to say it Back in
the day, back in the 80s, rightIn my absolute prime, I think
most of us had our decade ofprime.

(41:51):
I don't know how this is goingto come across.
There's two albums, twocassettes.
There's two cassettes that, uh,that that that are just big in
my catalog.
And the first one is if you, ifyou, if you, you're a girl and

(42:14):
we're kind of we're gettingtogether and and and we're, uh,
I'm gonna pull up this one, I, Ihave to play it.
So and uh, and you're with me,and uh, and this song comes on.
Oh shit, oh shit, this was uh,it was on.

(42:52):
Let's see if you know who it is.
Oh shit, my girl.
Oh shit, my girl.
Yeah, april, you're lucky youweren't around me if this song

(43:12):
came on.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, I don't know, Icouldn't be responsible for my
actions.
Just saying Little hot number,like you Back in the 80s, I
don't know.
The song comes on, I don't know.
April, susan, haspel says Hello, hi, susan, I had a nice

(43:36):
Thanksgiving.
I hope you did too.
April says oh, oh, please, Idon't know, I don't know.
So that song, right, sadepopped on my cassette.
Then we're in the car, but thisone, this one was the.
You might not know what thissong is.

(43:57):
You might not know, but I'mgoing to tell you this cassette
was the jam.
Oh, this was like oh shit now.

(44:18):
Todd Sockman, big head, Todd theWet Sprocket, I'm hereckman,
big Head, todd the wet sprocket.
I'm here, entertainment.
You're 46 minutes late.
Don't interrupt my makeout song.
Big Head, todd, oh oh, oh,sucky, sucky.

(44:39):
Now this brings back somememories.
I don't remember their names,but I remember the song coming
on, just saying, notmisogynistic, just saying, but
if this came on, it was all good.
Al B Shaw, al B Shaw.

(45:01):
Al B Shaw is a Boston boy, he'sa Boston boy.
Oh, he's caught up in that.
In another way, though, thissong oh shit, that song can run
inches.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That was that.
That's that, that was that.

(45:21):
It was on.
Al B Shaw.
Al B Shaw has a connection toDiddy, all right, but it's not
what you think.
It's not what you think.
So there were four people.
There were four people.

(45:42):
I'm going to give you a littleditty, ditty, background Cause
I'm all, I've been followingthis shit for a while, right,
and I'm a, I'm a, I'm a hip hophead, and uh, and I and I I
followed some shit and I didn'tknow.
Like, what they're saying is youdidn't knew, something wasn't
right, but but this is fuckingbizarre, right?
So this guy, andre harrell,under heroes in in 1986, starts

(46:11):
uptown records.
Okay, uptown records was youknow, they were kind of up and
coming, you know like r&b andsoul hip-hop in there and
they're doing all right, doingall right and uh, in 1990 diddy
sean combs at the time gets aninternship there and he starts

(46:42):
producing Mary J Blige, jodeci,I think, heavy D and the boys
right, and Kim Porter.
Kim Porter ended up did's wife.
That died, right, themysterious death.

(47:05):
Well, kim Porter was originallymarried to Al B Shaw.
All right, kim Porter has a kidwith Al B Shaw and then they
break and Diddy kind of stealsher away, steals her away.

(47:30):
But then through time, strangeshit happens to the four people
I just mentioned.
Andre Harrell dies of pneumoniaslash heart issues, right.
Heavy D dies of what theythought was pneumonia but heart

(47:56):
issues.
Kim Porter dies, he dies amysterious death.
Now let me jump back.
They had to let Diddy go.
So Andre Harrell got to cutDiddy loose because he had

(48:16):
Notorious BIG with him.
Now, notorious BIG was prettyraw and they weren't sure they
really wanted to do that.
So they cut Diddy loose and twoweeks later he starts Bad Boy
Records with Notorious BIG, whowas his money maker.
But anyway, back to the story.
So Andre Harrell dies Pneumonia, slash heart disease.

(48:41):
Heavy D dies Pneumonia, maybeHeart disease.
Heavy D dies Pneumonia, maybeHeart disease.
Kim Porter dies Pneumonia,slash heart disease.
Al B Shaw gets pneumonia,doesn't die, doesn't die.
Now, they were all kind ofintertwined one way or another

(49:06):
with Diddy.
The weird thing is three ofthem Harrell, kim Porter and
Heavy D were all in the processof doing tell-all books that was
going to include Diddy.

(49:27):
Al B Shaw was doing adocumentary.
You know who was probably goingto get mentioned in that Dead
Dead, al B Shaw.
He recovered.
But it's just kind of weird,weird right.
And and I'm going to give you alittle tip, if you didn't know

(49:49):
this, if you didn't know, um,the whistleblower on Diddy maybe
some of you do know this thewhistleblower was, of all people
, jamie Foxx.
Jamie Foxx, jamie Foxx washanging with Diddy.

(50:13):
I don't know what happened.
I don't know if you rememberthis.
Jamie Foxx got pneumonia.
I'm not laughing at that, youknow what I'm laughing at.
The coincidence got pneumonia,almost died.
And on the choke no joke podcasthe makes the statement did he

(50:41):
did something to me?
Did he did something right?
Diddy did something to me,diddy did something Right.
And then, like April says,jamie Foxx disappears Like drops
off the face of the earth.
Big, fucking big star.

(51:03):
Right Drops off the face of theearth.
Diddy goes to jail.
Right.
Who pops up in the DallasCowboys owner's box with with
Jerry Jones, jamie Foxx, who can?
Whose comedy special comes out?
Who goes out and does a comedyspecial after Diddy's in jail?

(51:24):
Jamie foxx.
Coincidence?
I think not, right.
I, I, I might bring out a littlediddy shit every week.
I might just start doing thatshit, but that that's, that's,
that's the lead off to it all.
There's a lot more coming,there's a lot of names involved.

(51:44):
And now, remember all of this,let me, let me, let me say this
is take this all with a grain ofsalt.
I am coming from the rumor zone.
Okay, that's all we're gonnasay.
So I don't get fucking sued orwhatever.
Get my channel pulled down.
It's all rumor, it's allspeculation, it's all

(52:09):
coincidence, yeah, coincidence.
All right, let's get back tothis.
Uh, number 10 in 1974 I shot thesheriff.
People said they liked bobmolly's version better.
Eric claptis is hard to beat,bob Marley's hard to beat, but
it's one of those.
I guess you could flip a coin.
Number nine Waterloo by ABBA.

(52:32):
Number nine song in the year1974.
April, the baby oil.
I'll give you my theory on thatnext week.
And Patty says everybody keepsup with the diddy shit.
This it's amazing, but I'mgonna talk more about it next
week.
We'll just keep this going, uh.

(52:52):
Number nine waterloo.
Number eight song in the year1974 billy don't be a hero by bo
donaldson and the haywoods.
Now think of those, those threesongs in a row.
I Shot the Sheriff by EricClapton.
Waterloo by ABBA.
Billy Don't Be a Hero.
Those are just the 10, 9, and 8.
This is an extremely eclecticgroup of songs.

(53:20):
In 74.
Big Head Todd the West Rocketssays or I might get pneumonia.
The funniest part of this wholestatement is he actually
correctly spelled the wordpneumonia.
You know that.
Does this chat have a spellcheck?
There's no way he spelled thaton his own.

(53:41):
I don't care if he was a chiefof police, some big city in
California.
He's a big guy, big head,talking to his rock.
I was a chief of police.
I made it to the top.
You still don't know how tospell pneumonia.
You fucking look that up.
That's all I'm saying.
All right, number seven, numberseven.
So we went the Billy Don't Be aHero of Bo Donald's Number

(54:02):
seven, rock your Baby by GeorgeMcRae Rock your Baby.
Number six Cats in the Craterby Harry Chapin.
Could you find five songs moredifferent than those?
Right, it just gets better.
Number five is Come and Getyour Love by Redbone.

(54:27):
Come and get your love, whichthat song actually has some
serious legs.
You've probably heard it morethan you think you have.
That shit's in movies likeGuardians of the galaxy brought
it back to like prominence, butit's been in a lot of songs.

(54:48):
It's been in a lot of movies,tv shows.
Uh, still gets played onclassic rock stations.
So good for redbone.
Number four seasons in the sunby terry jacks.
Like what the fuck was going onin 74?
Like you know, you had, okay,you had these story songs.

(55:10):
That was the thing.
Story songs, um, what's thematter with your head?
Yeah, right, what's the matterwith your head?
Uh, april said that.
So you Seasons of the Sun atnumber four.
Number three Love is aBattlefield by my boys, the Ohio

(55:30):
Players.
Yeah, look at that, big ups tothem.
They had the number three songin 1974.
Yeah, so in 74, think of thisin 74, I was 10 going on 11,
right, 73, I turned, or I was 11going on 12, I think, whatever

(55:52):
it was, I was born in 63, so 73.
I was 10, I was 11, we'll say Iwas 11 years old, and I'm 11
years old and I'm listening tothe Ohio players.
Like that's kind of someadvanced shit, I think, for an
11 year old kid.
That's why I got all thisuseless fucking knowledge in my

(56:15):
head.
Alright, number two.
Number two song in 1974 Bennyand the Jets.
Benny and the Jets, benny andthe Jets.
We all know who sang that.
The number one song in 1974 wasfrom a movie.

(56:39):
It was from a movie, 1974.
And it was with Robert Redford.
Robert Redford was in it, Ibelieve, and let me see you know
what.
Benny and the Jets was actuallystudio live.
All that live sound was addedin studio.

(57:05):
That was not really a live song.
It wasn't recorded live.
They made it sound recordedlive.
In case you were wondering, theWay we Were by Barbra Streisand.
Number one song of 1974.
Yep, april got it the way wewere.

(57:28):
Yep, yeah, that I mean.
Those are 10 absolutely totallydifferent songs, with the
exception of Season in the Sunand Billy Don't Be a Hero, story
songs, you know.
But let me give you some movies.
Let me get some movies.
The number one movie in 1974was Godfather, part 2.

(57:53):
Then you had Chinatown withJack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway.
The Exorcist came out in 1974.
Those three right there.
Oh then.
Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunawaythe Exorcist came out in 1974.
Those three right there.
Oh then Now, where I grew up,everybody that's watching is

(58:14):
pretty much in.
They grew up in the same place.
I did Winthrop.
That's right outside of Boston.
We all saw these movies at thesame place Kincaid Cinema Right,
small town beachfront communitysix miles from downtown Boston.
It was the greatest place inthe world to grow up.
We had the beach and we had thecity right there, easy access.

(58:39):
Blazing Saddles came out in 74.
And in the same year.
I didn't know this, I neverreally put this together.
Two of the funniest movies inthe history of movies, right,
two of the funniest movies inthe history of movies came out
in 74.
Blazing Saddles and YoungFrankenstein.

(59:04):
I mean, I dare you.
I dare you to come up with twocomedies better than those two
movies, but yet came out in thesame year.
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't think you can get ayear that had two comedies

(59:25):
better than that.
Maybe, but you'd have to showme the Conversation came out.
Francis Ford Coppola starringGene Hackman Great, great movie.
Mel Brooks was Zorro kicking.
Yeah, april, yeah, murder onthe Orient Express.

(59:48):
If you've never seen theoriginal you might want to watch
it.
Murder on the Orient Expresscame out in 74.
I mean, it was a great movie.
Great movie.
Albert Finney plays HerculePerrault, perwo perrow I could

(01:00:08):
never say his name the toweringinferno.
Wasn't that the first disastermovie?
It's towering inferno the firstone, or was the poseidon
adventure?
Which one came first?
Oh, which one did you likebetter, towering inferno or the
poseidon Adventure For youboomers out there, not that

(01:00:28):
shitty remake Poseidon Adventurethat I would not waste my time
watching and most people don'teven know that.
It probably was a remake, orthere was a remake of it but
never went anywhere.
Alice Doesn't Live here Anymore,directed by Martin Scorsese.
Ellen Burstyn was in that.
Jesus 74.

(01:00:49):
All right, uh, let me see.
Mash, mash.
The movie came out in 74.
No, that was the tv show.
I'm sorry, the tv show came outin 74.
I just jumped past.
I never saw the Parallax View.
That was the number 10 movie in1974.

(01:01:15):
Warren Beatty is a reporterinvestigating a secretive
organization involved inpolitical assassinations.
Chris Christopherson RIP.
April MASH came out for TV shows.
Mash came out in 74.
All in the Family in 74.
Mary Tyler Moore Show in 74.
The Waltons in 74.

(01:01:38):
Come on man, happy Days in 74.
Sanford and Son in 74.
Columbo in 74.
The Rockford Files in 74.
Sanford and Son in 74.
Columbo in 74.
The Rockford Files in 74.
Good Times in 74.
And Emergency come on man.
Has TV ever been better thanthat?

(01:01:59):
What the fuck?
Hit after hit.
I mean these are all fuckinglegendary TV shows.
Damn, yeah, we had it good, wehad it so good back then.
Shit, we had it good.
Kids today, they don't know,they just don't know.

(01:02:22):
But I'm not going to be thatold guy Because I fucking turned
61 in.
I don't know, they just don'tknow.
But I'm not going to be thatold guy Because I fucking turned
61 in.
I don't know.
12 days Fucking 61.
What the fuck?
Let me see, yeah, anyway.
So that's it.
I think I just went over anhour.

(01:02:43):
Big Head, todd the wet sprocket, jumped in.
So things, everything.
Patty was there, dave was there, april joined the show.
Right, right, we were.
I mean Allison.
Allison started the show off.
I mean we're back to normal.
We're gonna be good.
We're gonna be good.

(01:03:03):
I think I could do this.
You think I could do this,think I could do this.
I think I could do it by myself.
I think I might be able to.
Patty says I just turned 69.
Oh uh, but you look 49.
Yeah.

(01:03:24):
Alice says have a very happybirthday.
When is the?
Let me see?
It's the 18th.
What's the date today?
Will I be able to?
Let me see 5, 12.
I'll do it.
I'll be back next Thursdaybefore my birthday.
Yeah, I'll be back nextThursday, 7 o'clock as usual.

(01:03:45):
I'll have another song.
I'll have some more stuff totalk about.
We'll talk a little more aboutDiddy.
See, what's up with that mess?
Patty says aren't you sweet?
And then, under her breath,she's like bullshit artist.
I don't lie, patty, I don't lie.

(01:04:08):
Allison says okay, then yes,and everybody.
I want to thank you forlistening.
On the podcast channels We'vegone over 30,000 downloads.
It's not bad, considering Inever promote this.
I always appreciate peoplelistening from the beginning and

(01:04:31):
there's no end in sight.
Nothing's going to start.
As I said at the beginning ofthe episode.
Let me see something.
There we go.
This is what I like.

(01:04:52):
I love techno.
Yeah, I always loved techno,techno and house music, always
this it is.

(01:05:12):
Yes, yes, this is my church,yeah, this is where I heal my

(01:05:41):
hurts.
And, in case you're wondering,the song is called God is a DJ
and it's by a group calledFaithless.
They're English, they're aBritish band, but he gets into.
Let me see, let me roll this up.
There's one good part in thissong that I love.

(01:06:01):
Here we go Damn right, he isGod is a DJ Tonight.

(01:06:27):
God is a podcaster.
Ha ha, I can change the lyrics,I don't care, I just love
techno.
So get used to hearing some ofthis stuff.
I couldn't play it beforebecause there's people Eh, they
weren't really into it, but Ilove this shit.
How can you not?
It's always upbeat.

(01:06:47):
All right, everybody, like Isaid, thank you for watching,
thank you for listening.
If you liked it, share it Ifyou didn't.
Well, thanks for watching andlistening for an hour and nine
minutes.
I'll be back next week to doanother new iteration of Milk
Crates and Turntables and, as Ialways say, you know it's coming

(01:07:08):
Doing this show for you, toquote my favorite artist,
morrissey.
The pleasure, the privilege ismine and I look forward to a lot
more of these shows.
This was very fun.
This was fun for me, and I meanit when I say it.
This is extremely therapeuticfor me and sometimes I need that

(01:07:31):
, sometimes I need that and Iknow I could do this every
Thursday night with no onewatching, no one listening.
It doesn't matter.
This is absolutely therapeuticfor me and again it's my church.
I've come to that.
Therapeutic for me and againit's my church.
I've come to that, takingalmost a month off and
everything that happened and,looking back, I really have come
to that conclusion that this ismy church doing this and I love

(01:07:53):
it.
It's not going anywhere.
I'm 61 in 12 days or something,13 days, but I'll be doing this
when I'm 71.
I don't care, I'm coming up on200 shows doing this when I'm 71
.
I don't care, I'm coming up on200 shows, no stop, because it's
music, right, fucking music.
We can talk about music whenyou're 90.
Although you probably won'twant to hear me when I'm 90,

(01:08:15):
because I'll be complainingabout everything like my father
does, but that's a whole otherstory.
We'll talk about him next week.
Alright, everybody, I'll seeyou next Thursday night for
church and I'm going to listento some techno tonight.
Isn't this shit smooth.
I'm having a hard time leaving,aren't I?
All right, I'm going to cut outLater.
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