Ep. 167 - Jack's Back! Talking About Lost Hits And Music Memories - Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast

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Scott McLean (00:10):
well, here we are, episode 166.
Yeah, baby, welcome to 2025.
And on this episode is back,starting the year off.
Right, jack, my boy, jackCalabrese, the man the mouth,

(00:32):
the not a legend, my brother inmicrophones.
Yeah, we're going to be talkingabout lost hits, songs that
provoke memories, all sorts ofgood stuff, and I'm sure Jack's
going to wax poetic aboutsomething at one point in time
or another.
It's inevitable.
So sit back, relax and enjoy,jack and me, of course, because,

(00:56):
well, it's all about me.

Jack Calabrese (01:01):
Five, four, three, two, one, zero.
All engines running, Lift off.
We have a lookout.
The KOFB studio presents MilkCreeps and Turn Pables, a music
discussion podcast hosted byScott McClain.

(01:21):
Now let's talk music.
Enjoy the show.

Now I want to know what's going on here.
Hold on, I want to know what'sgoing on, scott.
What are you saying?
Does my volume sound bad or not?
What?
What's going on here?

so your volume is better, but it's still gotta
um.
It's still not as loud as itnormally is, and when I say
better but annoying, it's justbecause listening to your voice
is annoying you know, you knowit's, but it is better.
At the beginning there was novolume, then it was a little bit

(02:08):
.

Now I just turn my speakers up to 100, and I can
hear you guys fine.

No, it's not supposed to be that way, Scott.
I kid you not.
My volume is at 92%.

And it doesn't sound that good.
Hey, todd, so happy, happy.
I just hung up on him.
So you know what I'm going todo Fuck this, because this will
bother me.
This will bother me.
I'm fucking doing it.
I'm switching out microphones.
I'm switching out microphones.
This is not acceptable.

(02:41):
Jack deserves better than this.
So, right at the beginning ofthe show, I'm fucking changing
out microphones because I canand I'm going to.

Just why are you doing that, hi, patricia?

Todd, how's it going?

Allison, happy new year.
Lots to talk about, A lot goingon.
It's been a long time.
I can't even remember the lasttime I was on it's been a while.
I know that if you have me onman, you are scraping the bottom
of the.

I'm going to go blank for a minute.
Hold on, I'm going to go gosilent hello, I'm going to go
silent, hello, hello.

All he does, this is all he does.
He's retired.
It's all he does.
And look at him.
I'm a professional.
All right, I've got.

Todd, you're absolutely right.
How does?

it sound now, it sounds the same, sounds the
same, sounds the same.

What the fuck?
I don't like this.
I don't like this at all I.

I mean, you know what, scott, I can hear you, we
okay?

all right.
Well, I'm gonna go with thisanyways.
Now that this one's in, I gottause this one.
I'm going to go with thisanyways.
Now that this one's in, I gotto use this one.
I'll use this one and I'll justwe'll roll with it.
I'm annoyed, but I don't know.
All right, I put this back on,get this, turn that up and I'm

(04:39):
just going to take it off.
Man, how many bald guys did ittake to screw in a microphone?
One, evidently one.
So alright, jack, fill us in on.
Alright, let's go with concerts.
Just give us a quick run downon concerts you've been to in
2024 oh my god, we, we went nutsin 2024.

(05:02):
Well, that was great thanks forthat lineup.
That was fantastic.
I'm for that lineup.
That was fantastic.
I'm glad you.
That must have been a greattime.

So we started out with Dylan LeBlanc in
Connecticut, u2 at the Sphere,dave Matthews Band in Guilford
for not one but two nights.
Band at uh in guilford uh, fornot one, but two nights.
Uh, two nights of pearl jam atfenway, which you know talk
about impressive and we've we'vetalked about this before uh,

(05:33):
but you know pearl jam playingtwo nights.
You know, first off, mostpeople like pearl jam.
They're still around, they'restill making music.
Yes, they are.
Uh, the sold out two shows atFenway.
Went to both shows and peoplewere like, why do you go to both
shows?
But they played, I thinkcollectively, somewhere in the
neighborhood of like 57 songsbetween the two nights and

(05:56):
repeated two.
Wow, that's pretty fuckingimpressive.

What were the two?
They repeated?

pretty fucking impressive.
What were the two?
They repeated, uh, they alwaysplay alive.
And they played, uh, thewreckage off of the, the new
record, which, by the way, ifyou guys have not heard, the new
pearl jam, uh, that came out in2024.
It is by far, at least, myfavorite album that came out in
2024.
Speaking of which, I thought itwould be interesting to talk
about the top albums of 2024.

(06:28):
You know, like rock albums, Ihave to tell you, scott, I had a
difficult time putting togethera list of 10 records that I
liked in 2024.
Definitely listened to a lot ofolder stuff, listening to a lot
of jazz, listening to a lot ofjazz, but, as stated, pearl Jam,
dark Matter Was my number onerecord of 2024.

(06:51):
If you're even a passive fan ofrock music, you should listen
to this record.
It's very, very good, veryaccessible.
It's probably the poppiestrecord that they've ever made,
but it's pretty damn good.
Okay, I can tell that you'rejust awestruck.
It's probably the poppiestrecord that they've ever made,
but it's pretty damn good, okayI can tell that you're just
awestruck.
No, no, no, I just got.

No, it's funny you said this because I did a new
year's eve show and it's funnythat you're saying this because
I was.
I forget what the topic was, uh, but I was, oh, oh, you know
what it was.
I was going through the year,the year of music, and you know,
you see, these groups like DeepPurple released an album this
year, right?

(07:31):
So I was kind of cracking onthese bands that you know, after
their fifth album.
Now, let me get your take onthis, and mine was after a
band's.
Now, considering how much musicis out there and how many bands
there are, you got to reallylook at it.

(07:53):
How many bands really haveanything worth its salt after
the fifth album, after the fifthalbum?
Now you get the specific.
You get the led zeppelins andyou get the, the, the.
You know the, like you too.
I used all you can take and howto dismantle, right?
Those two back-to-back albumsare fucking phenomenal.

(08:14):
They should have been the samealbum, right?
Um, uh-oh, oh, tal, bro, isthat fucking jack?
Yes, it is, yes, it is uh.
So, like, really, how manybands like deep purple?
You go, you're back at thesebands.
How many of those bands havegood albums after?

(08:37):
And who's buying that, thatstuff?
You know what I mean?
Mark flynn.
Mark flynn, he doesn't buyanything.
He's too cheap to buy a cup ofcoffee um.

So to to your point, you are right that most
bands um have a creative arc andthey exhaust themselves.
Part of it is, you know, the,the, the touring, and you know
they get exhausted and they, youlose their kind of creative
spark.
Deep purple, probably a biggerband, you know in the 70s, has

(09:19):
not aged well, or let's put itthis way, history has not, uh,
treated them well, um, and theirand their albums were hit or
miss, you know, for a littlewhile, but they did put out
perfect strangers in the 80s,all right, that was a big big
comeback, big, big comebackrecord for them.
But what happened?
But remember, remember, youknow, deep purple not the

(09:41):
greatest example, because RichieBlackmore moved away from Deep
Purple and went and formedRainbow, which was comprised by
a lot of guys from Deep Purple.

So look at it though.
That's the 80s and they were a70s band, primarily a 70s band,
so they still had a little bitof gas in the tank in the 80s.
And so there was a bunch ofbands that had these little uh,
these little resurgence uh inthe eighties that was seventies
bands.
They changed it up and they,they changed it up just enough

(10:12):
to make it in the eighties andthat whole new sound.
Whereas you had uh people likeI don't know it was Alice Cooper
or somebody trying to do uhback in the nineties or even the
eighties.
They were trying to do thatkind of hair metal sound and
they were trying to mimicwhatever the popular sound was
at the time, and that shit neverturns out good.

(10:35):
But you get those bands likeDeep Purple who stayed in their
lane and put out a good album.

But I think your point is is well taken is that
you know you have a band thatcomes on or an artist that comes
on.
You know they have their debut.
Some people they hit it out ofthe park with their debut record
because they've been playingthat music for a decade.
You know like people look atthe first cars album and like
there's not a bad song on thatalbum.

(11:03):
No, well, that's because thoseguys have been playing and
writing those songs for Time out.

Mark Flynn just retorted.
Hey Jack, I got something deeppurple for you.

See, I told you he was a fan.

Oh, perfect timing .
What are you?

drinking.
What are you drinking there?
What are?

you drinking?
What are you drinking?
Tea, as usual, okay, just alittle tea.
There was a time when this showdrove you to drink and it
wasn't tea Once or twice.

I realized pretty early on drinking and
podcasting.
Oh, by the way, drinking andpainting it does not work.

It doesn't enhance your creative mind.

It does not.
Well, you think it does.
You think it does.
Like at the moment you comeback from dinner, you know,
maybe you had some wine, you hada martini or whatnot, and I was
like, ah, you know, I got to goand clean up my paints a little
bit and I'll take a couple ofswipes at it.
Oh, I'm kicking ass.
And the next morning I wake uplike what the fuck?

Yeah, it's the same thing with driving.
Apply that to driving too.

Painting's a little less dangerous.

How many idiots in our lifetime said I'm a fucking
better driver drunk than I amstraight?
Yeah, I'm being responsible.

I got to get my car home.

Unfortunately one or two didn't make it through
that thing, but that's anotherstory for another time, Don't
drink and drive out there kids,no, no, no, it's not worth it.
But back then I mean, we gotaway with it for the most part.
Today, these kids, they got itroughly away.

You're off topic a little bit, but a little bit
again to your point when, whenwas?
When was the last great eltonjohn record?
When was the last?
You know I mean even um, youknow van halen, you know you got
into, like you know, diver downwhere they were struggling.
You know most that album.
I think the album clocks in atlike 31 minutes.

(13:06):
There's five covers on itExactly.

Yeah, they bounced back in 1984.
And you can't even countAerosmith's 80s comeback,
because they didn't write thosesongs.

No.

They didn't write them.
So I think that theirresurgence was great.
It was good music for the time.
I don't know.
I think that their resurgencewas great.
It was.
It was good music for the time.
I don't know how much some ofthose songs aged.
I don't know if they aged well,like loving an elevator, I'm
like ah, fucking that's ifthat's not an 80s, fucking
arrowsmith song.
You know what I mean no, youknow what that?

you know what the worst 80s arrowsmith song
was?
Oh, what ragdoll, oh I don'tknow.

I think loving the elevator gives it a run for its
money but I will not argue withyou.

Ragdoll, going to the movies.
Ragdoll, this fucking song isgoofy.
I agree.
You know what?
I'll tell you Some of those 80sAerosmith records the best
songs are the songs that weren'thits.

Like.

Eat the Rich or Monkey on my Back, you know,
some of that stuff Was reallyreally good.

Perry Denevich, the AI.
He's back there, he is.
He says oh yeah, I dig thisdupe just like recording with a
buzz.
Uh, sounds good now, buttomorrow not so good oh man in
the ai.
I know that there's probably.

There's probably some people that can do it.
I I can't podcast or paint yeah, I don't think podcasting the.

the thing about podcasting when you're drunk is
you really can say anything youwant, like there's, no, you're
not going to get filtered right,it's the Wild West.
How it's going to go over withthe audience is a whole other
thing.

Remember when we first came of age and we were
able to get into places, we'd goand drink in the afternoon and
play pool, oh yeah.

The Charlie West I was doing that of places we'd
go and drink in the afternoonand play pool.
Oh yeah, the child.
It was when I wasn't of agethere was.

There was like a five to seven minute period
where you just had enoughalcohol, where on the table you
were hitting everything, oh,yeah, yeah.
But then one sip more and itwas gone you know what I?

I love doing that, but I hated that that time,
that gap between like five inthe afternoon and seven at night
, because everything when wewere growing up started at seven
.
Right, we're going to meetsomewhere, because we're going
to town, because the bar'sclosed at one, right.
So if we were going in town,like you get in there early so

(15:40):
you can prime up, right, but ifyou were drinking all day, that
dead zone between 5 and 7, Ihated that.
It's just enough to maybeyou're going to start to fucking
hit the wall, you know, butthen it's a struggle to get back
up again.
But they were great times.
Those were good times, crazytimes.
So what I want to do with Jackis we're going to talk about

(16:04):
some lost hits.
It could be from the 70s andthe 80s.
Oh, perry Denevich, the AI,says I dig this duo, meaning
Scott and Jack.
Well, you know we are theoriginators, the OGs of MC&T.
Mark Flynn commented in myhouse painter Jorge drinks and

(16:25):
paints A case of Miller Lite.
He does my whole basement, mypainter Jorge, okay.

In my neighborhood.
You know, this was years ago,back when nobody in the
neighborhood had any money Ourfriends, tim and Mark and their
wives.
They were in a duplex down thestreet and they asked everybody
to help them paint their house.
And you know, tim and Mark werelike we're going to get a keg.
And I said, listen, it's noneof my business, guys, but do

(17:02):
yourselves a favor, don't tapthe keg until we're done.
Yeah, and they made the mistake.
Like you know, people weregetting on them hey, where's the
beer?
Where's the beer?
Where's the beer?
And once they tapped that keg,it was all fucking over.
Yeah, it was done.
Yeah, it was done.
All of a sudden, people weresitting in the grass and they

(17:23):
were playing with the brushesand people were rolling each
other.

It was a mess, like the Three Stooges painting
the car.
I fucking painted my car, dude.
Fucking rolling works great.
Yeah, hey, you changed yourangle, your room.
I see you got your old podcastlight hanging up on a.
What is that?
An old, a different light.

(17:48):
It's a different light.
Oh, okay, it's hanging up on a.
You got the Louvre doors behindyou.

There's one behind me there.

Yeah.

There's one there.
Uh-huh, okay, it's the latestpainting I'm working on right
there, ah, okay.
Which, by the way, that's thehouse that we painted.

That's it.
There you go, see, see how thatworks, see how that works.
Alright, so we were going intome and Jack talked about it.
He wanted to do somethingintelligent, because he asked me
, actually, so what are we goingto be doing?
And I sent him a text we'regoing to be talking about Wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait a second.

can you do my voice again?
What did I say?

you said yeah, what are we gonna be doing?
That's exactly how you said itand through the text, that's how
I read it through the text.
And I said we're gonna be doingbands and songs that have food
in the name.
And and he said can we dosomething intelligent?

Yo like this.

You don't like that topic.
Jack, is that below you?
So how many?
What was it?
I don't know.
I was joking.
I said bands and songs withfood in the name and I was like
I waited for your reply.

Wait, but how many can you name?
Can you name any?

Strawberry Alarm Clock.
Vanilla Ice, Let me see Saltand Pepper.

See people.
This is proof he wanted to dothis.
No.

I'm just smarter than you when it comes to this.
I'm quicker than you.
I know these things.
You know some things I know,these things you know some
things, I know other things, youknow shit you know stuff, I
know stupid fucking facts.
So vanilla fudge cream, yeah,yeah humble pie humble pie.
Is that humble pie?
Yeah, it's a little bit of astretch.
Yeah, it's pie.
It's pie, though it's pie.

(19:39):
Someone could call something ahumble pie.
How about?
Uh, uh, what is it?
um something chocolate meatloafmeatloaf right, yeah, yeah, uh.
Hot chocolate right.
Isn't that a band hot?

wild, wild cherry wild cherry.

Yeah, yeah, let me see uh the oj's that's a
stretch.
That's a stretch, come that's astretch Come on Vitamin C yeah,
what else Yesterday?
Yesterday I wasn't feeling good.
Tangerine dream yeah, yesterdayI wasn't feeling good.

I was getting a little stuffy, so I wanted some
vitamin C.
I had a couple of OJs.

There you go, smashing pumpkins.
Big head, todd the Wits,brocket, smashing pumpkins.
That's Two more.
Give me two more, let's come upwith two more.
Let's see Orange Juice Jones, Isaw you Walking in the rain.

(20:36):
That's a great song, by the way.
Eminem's, eminem's.
There you go.
Alright, we did it.
We did a show.
Alright.
Goodbye everybody.
Good night everybody.
M&m's, m&m's.
There you go.
All right, we did it.
We did it.

We did a show.
We did a show.
All right, goodbye everybody,thank you.

Good night everybody.

Good night, Good night everybody.

All right, so 10 lost hits, I have 10.
Jack has 10.
And I'll start off.
So this group, the song cameout in 84 and the group you
never hear.

(21:09):
You very rarely hear this song,but it peaked at number 43 on
the Hot 100.
And again, you don't reallyhear it on the radio.

This hit is what's the song Was that that's
not Guns N' Ropes is it.
Nope, frankie Goes to Hollywood.

There you go.
What's the song?
Is that Two Tribes, two Tribes.
I'll give you.
It's not that it's Two Tribes.

That's what I just said.

You said the Two Tribes.
It's Two Tribes.
I'm just doing what you woulddo to me.

I didn't say that's two tribes, it's two
tribes.

No, no, we'll go back in the replay.
I can bring it up on the phoneright now.
Good to see, jack.
No, it's not.
It's not Cranberries, red hotchili peppers, blue Easter cult
pulled from a Flynn.
He pulled a Mark Flynn andGoogled it.
Big head Todd to Ed Sprock.
There you go.
At least he's honest.

Yeah, that people hey how about Seal?

There you go, if you're an Eskimo.

You ever hear that comedy bit that you know
the Make-A-Wish Foundation.
Yeah, they have a dilemma.
They find some kid who's reallysick and they grant him his
wish.
You can do.
You know, make a wishfoundation.
You can meet michael jackson,you can go to disneyland.
His final wish he wanted tokill a baby seal.

Yeah, so two tribes.
You always hear relax.
They play relax on the radioall the time um, but you never,
very rarely, do you hear twotribes being played.
And it was pretty much.
It peaked at 43.
So it wasn't a top 40 hit, butit was in the hot 100.

(23:15):
So that was from 84.

What do you got jack uh, so I, I I was a little
bit different in the way that Iwas thinking about this and
these are, I think, along thesame lines, right Songs that I
love or really liked a lot thatyou never hear on the radio, and
I was pulling some deep cuts.
So the first one that I pulledis a song called Dreams I'll

(23:42):
Never See by by Molly Hatchet.
Wow, do you know that?

Let's see, here we go.
Oh yeah, I can tell just offthat first.
Yes, I knew it as soon as itcame, just that riff.

Yep, can you play a little more?

Oh, dude, I'm putting this in my playlist
right now.
Huh, I'm adding this in myplaylist, right now.
Huh, I'm adding it to myplaylist right now.
I forgot about this song.
I love it.
Great fucking song.
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, this is another YouTubevideo that's going to get
copyrighted to death.
Yeah, all right, I got to stopit because they're going to get

(24:39):
me.
They're going to get me.
So this song, this song.
When did that song come out?
Dreams, I'll Never See.
That was what Early 80s.

Yeah.

Yeah, right.
So this song is an.
I think this is and this wasone of his highest charting
songs, this artist who wasoriginally in one of the big
bands.
I just got a text Hold on, butI'm not going to do it With that

(25:07):
.
That just fucked me up, 1978,if I'm looking at text Hold on,
but I'm not going to do it Withthat.

That just fucked me up 1978, if I'm looking at
this graph 78.

I thought it was close In the early 80s.
I knew it was in that timeframe, yeah.

But I mean that is a great song it is, and you
never hear it on the radio.

No, you don't.
And this song too, this song,and this is his, I think his
highest shotting song.
I think it came in at number 26in 1986 in the Hot 100.
You'll know it, let's see, youknow it.

I couldn't hear it at all.

Really, I don't know what's going on with this
too.

I'm all fucked up, can you hear it Is that Face
to Face by Pete Townsend?
Yeah, I love that song.

(26:14):
By the way, I got a PeteTownsend song too.

Oh, okay.

I got one too.

It's a long intro which probably didn't help it.

But it was a huge hit for him.

It was.
Great video too big staple onmtv.
Great video, great harmonic,harmonica, solo.
Right, his daughter's up onstage with him.
She's the one that says watchthe flex.
Yeah, great song, pete thompson, face to face, from 1986.

(26:53):
I don't know why my shit's notcoming across good over this,
but I'll fix this tomorrow.
It's irritating.
Uh, what do you got?

hold on a second .

Bear with me one second yeah, yeah, yeah, give us
number three hold on a second.

I'm just.

I'm just trying to see if I can adjust something
okay, this is an adjustment showpeople, but it doesn't matter.
Jack's back.
You missed the intro.
You're gonna.
I know you never listened tothe podcast for the listeners.
Jack's never listened to anepisode of this podcast and all
the episodes he's ever done,because he doesn't like the way

(27:30):
he sounds and that's the way hesaid.
But you have to listen to theintro here because I dogged you.
All right, you ready?
I'm ready for the next pick.

I'm ready for the next pick.
I'm ready.
I did not particularly care forthis song when it first came
out.
My wife reintroduced the songinto our lives.
It's back from 1981.
You need to look up.
Saga on the loose, oh shitremember that one from 1981?

let me see yeah, here it is.
There it is.
Lost it buddy.
Yeah, here it is, here it is.

Lost it.
Buddy, Can you get to the pointwhere he's actually start
singing this?

is a rocking tune.
Yeah, wow, good one.
Yeah Got the fist.
Yeah, nice one, dude.

Dude, that should go on your playlist too.

I don't know, I don't like it that much I mean
it's a good song.

It segues in from Molly Hatchet.
Look, I regard myself as apretty astute musicologist and I
just picked Molly Hatchet andSaga.

Let me see my song right here.
No, let me see.

Who does?

it.
How come I can't Fuck.
Let me see who does it.
How come I can't Fuck.
Let me see Song.
I had this song.
Now I don't know where the fuckit went, I don't know.
Like on my list it was from1987.
Let me see, I know how I'llfind it.
I'll find it over here.

(29:29):
I don't know why that got it'sby what the hell Song You're

(29:54):
really getting good at thispodcast.
I know, know, really I don'tcare, I'll skip to the next one.
I'll skip to the next one.
This next one came out.
This came out in 1991.
This next one I had extras.
I actually I kind of did thison you, I got extras, so this
song came out in 1991.
What were you doing in 1991?

What was I doing in 1991?
Yeah, I was living inSomerville with Deb, our first
appointment, our first apartmentI mean I was working at the New
England going to shows Went to,by the way, 1991.
I'm hoping that we get to talkabout this.
1991 was the year of the firstLollapalooza tour.

Well, if you're around next week, if you're
around next week, jack, look at,jack has the fucking coffee mug
with the J on it.
How old are you getting oldlike you're that guy now?
It was a gift, oh Jesus, you'renot supposed to coffee mugs.

(31:04):
Gifts are supposed to go fordisplay.
I never used a coffee mug thatanyone's ever gotten me, except
for a king of Facebook coffeemug that anyone's ever gotten me
except for a King of Facebookcoffee mug.
Those are the greatest coffeemugs ever.

Do you still give those fucking things out?
I still have some left.
You got a crate full of them.
Is there like 300 of themsitting on a pallet in your
garage?

They're all back there.
Yeah, they're all behind thegreen monster.

You know what I want to see someday?
I want to see a King ofFacebook mug on eBay.

Let's see Is there , one up there Make it so number
one.
King of Facebook.
Oh, he's looking it up.
You won't find one becausethey're hard to get and people
don't sell them.
They treasure them.
They're going to be worthsomething someday.

Oh, there's like 30 of them on there 99 cents.
Oh, wait a minute.
I wonder who posted this one.
It says only use this display.

Okay, all right.
This song, this lost hit, cameout in 1991.
Let's see, this was one ofthose radio hits if this wasn't
91, oh yeah.

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Did you ever hear this song onthe radio?
No, 1991.
Did you ever hear this song onthe radio?

No Trying to sound like Prince, I know this
song.
Who is this?
Yeah, is this Saga?
Is this Saga's?

other hit.
The name of the band is NaturalSelection.
This peaked at number two.
Dude, this song, right?
The name of the song is DoAnything.
What if the land without you,we can make it.

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It was a big dance club hit too.
That's when 91 was all dancehits.
That's when all those club hitscame out.
What do you got?
Did he freeze?
Fuck, jack froze up.
Look at that, look on his face.

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Unless I froze up, did I?
Oh, and he's gone.
Let's get him back in Hold.
On Boy, this is quite thecomeback there.
He is All right.
He froze up.

for a minute I was here the whole time Did I
freeze up.

Yeah, yeah, with the stupidest look on your face.
You could not have froze upwith a stupider look on your
face.
That's great.

I got them all.
Baby, I got them all.

Dude, you're going to give me your next one.

You're going to be very hard to beat, I'm
telling you right now.
So this, so this is a deep cut.
It was, uh, it was a brief,minor hit in 1984 by a
predominantly a songwriter, buthe, he put out one or two solo
albums, maybe more than that.
Mark smith would would know.
Uh, tony, carry a fine, fineday, ah let me pull it up.

Hold on, do you remember that?
Soon I will, let me see if Ihear it.
Let me fine fine day, fine fineday.
Always love this song tonycarry, here we go.
Ah, yeah, one of those sadsongs, very melancholy.

Very melancholy.
Yes, tells a story.
Yeah, it's a story, showing mysensitive side.

Remember when we thought this was such a cool
fucking song.

It's a cool song .
It's not really.

It's not really.
It's not better than the nightthe lights went out in Georgia.

Well, it definitely does have that kind
of 70s storytelling feel andeven the sound Like the night
that the lights went out inGeorgia.

Look at the comment.
Look at the comment.
There you go.
No one cared at all it you go.
There you go, yeah, yeah.
To me, that song didn't reallyage that well, which is why you

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don't really hear it on theradio much.
Right Now, you want to talkabout a song that does not
fucking, that did not age well?
I'm going to tell you thisright now.
You want to talk about a songthat does not fucking, that did
not age well?
I'm going to tell you thisright now.
And this, this song, um,actually did good on the charts
did well on the charts, yeah ithit number nine in 1977.

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it Wait, wait, wait.
Did you just say good on thecharts, it did better than good
it did well, I'm telling Debra.
Yeah, anyways.

Anyways, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh Jesus, todd Big Head, todd the Wetsprocket just
laid out a list Material issueValerie loves me.
Valerie loves me.
That song goes back to 91 withme.
And Todd the Mighty Lemon Drops.
Where do we go from heaven?
Peter Murphy Cuts you Up.
See, peter Murphy Cuts you Upis not a lost hit.
Peter Murphy's Cuts you Up getsplayed a lot actually.

It gets played a lot.
You know that was the numberone.

What's that.
You know what, peter?

Murphy.
You know what you know.
That was the number one.
What's that?
You know what, Peter Murphy?
You know what Peter Murphy'ssong is a lost hit it's Indigo.

Eyes, Indigo, Indigo Eyes.
Yeah, that's a lost hit,Absolutely.
But Cuts you Up.
Cuts you Up was the number onealternative song, I believe in
1999.
Pursuit of Happiness I'm anadult now.
I turned Todd on to that.
That's actually a really goodalbum.
Their debut album he has RandyNewman, Short People not a lost

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hit.
Social Distortion Drug Train,Drug Train.
Todd is a big Social Distortionfan, Big, big Social Distortion
.

I like Social.

D yeah, yeah, that dude was ahead of his time with
the neck tats and the whole.

He was way ahead of his time.
He was awesome, come on.
Bad luck, I was wrong.

Yeah.

Those are great, great songs.

Yeah, they should have been bigger than they are.
They have a following, though.
He made his money.
They made their money.
He made his money, they madetheir money.

They play here at Hampton Beach Casino.
They sell out every time.

So isn't that great.
So let's talk about this aminute.
These older bands that stilltour, because evidently they
still make money.
Right Now they might not beplaying the big venues, but
evidently they make enough moneyto tour because touring costs
money, right.

But evidently they make enough money to tour,
because touring costs money,right?
Well, I mean, how much does itcost to have Social D go out on
tour?
I mean, they're not going outwith this big stage show, right
right, they're a workingperson's band, they go out, they
have their equipment, but theyprobably don't have the big
light show and the fire pots andthe runways and all that stuff.

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And I mean, mike N ness is theprincipal on.
Yeah, I, I would venture toguess and I don't know enough
about social d to know anybetter, but I would imagine that
he makes a lot of money, yeah,and the rest of the guys in the
band probably do, okay if it'seven the original, like I'm sure
, it's not the original lineupbands like that don't usually

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keep the original lineup.

The lead singer is the one that carries it.
He says Talking Heads.
This must be the place thatactually gets played a lot.
That's my favorite TalkingHeads song.
I used to fucking hate thatsong.
I used to hate that song.
I was like this is garbageright.
And I don't know what changedOne day.

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It was just on and I listenedto.
I kind of gave it a listen.
I said all right, what the fuck?
And I was like I fucking likethis song love this song it's
brilliant.
it's fucking brilliant song.
Yeah, it's a complicated song.

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If you're going to try to playit, there's a lot going on there
.

What movie was this from?
It's been in a couple of movies, primarily.

Ah shit, been in a couple of movies primarily.
Ah shit, it had a point blank.
What was it?
A gross point?
Gross point blank about thehitman.
Uh, what's his name?
I forget his name john cusackyeah, yeah, john cusack.
Yeah, he goes back to his highschool reunion.
He has.
He has a psychiatrist that healways talks to.
He's a hit man.
Yeah, this is that's, that's.
I don't think that's a lost hit, but he brought up this one.

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He brought up this one, let me.
Let me play this real quick.
This is pretty.
This is a deep cut.
Let me see, uh, hairstyles andattitudes.
You don't hear anybody talkingabout Timbuk3.

Oh God, you didn't like him.
I'm so cool, I got to wearshades.

The future's so bright.
This is actually a good album.
Their first album was a goodalbum.
I had the cassette, of courseyou did.
Yeah, I don't know if that oneaged too well, but let me get to
this one.

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This song is it's pretty much.
It's pretty much as cringe asit gets.
You're not going to and thisone peaked at number nine on the
charts Anything yet.

No.

As cringe as it gets.

It sounds like old Elton John.
Nope, I know it's not.

I'm going to let it build up a little.
It's such a fucking lame song.
Came out in 77, got it.

Is that Alice Cooper?
Yeah, got it Is that AliceCooper.

Yeah, do you remember this song?
I do.
He was trying to mimic.
Only Women Bleed, right.

This is Alice Cooper sounds like fucking David
Soul.

TV yeah oh, that's better the song is called you
and Me.
It's fucking horrible, but itwas a hit.
It was a hit.
It reached number nine Again, Ibelieve, because Only Women
Bleed was a huge hit for him.
It was, and he probably waslike oh, I got to make that

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money.
The record company's like youneed to write another ballad,
Alice Cooper.
Like how much of a dichotomy isthat?
Alice Cooper doing a fuckingsoft hit contemporary song.
You know, you know what?

Alice Cooper has always been a big proponent of
a good song is a good song.
I remember seeing a littlevideo clip of him.
He was talking to somemusicians in like the late
nineties or the two thousandsand he was like, look, I get it,
you're talented musicians, butwhere is the song, where's the
melody?
Are you?
What is this?

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The Academy awards you playingmusic.
No, no, no.

I'm sorry I'm listening to you Cause I have a
rebuttal to that.
I think he's just trying tocover his tracks because he put
out that fucking soft shit.
Alice cooper was fuckingsupposedly stepping on chickens
on stage baby chicks andcrushing them and throwing
fucking dead animals into thecrowd and chopping heads off and
hanging himself and doing theelectric chair and yeah, but

(44:03):
then he goes and does this shit.
And he could be.
It's because the record companywanted him to.

He sold out when he did that song kiss, kiss did
beth.
And hard luck woman.

Yeah, but hard luck woman was better than you
and me.

You and me is supposed to be dead I bet you, I
yeah, but I bet you was it abig hit for him.

so so I'll give you beth and I'll, and I'll put
only women bleed next to it.
Great songs on to it, greatsongs on their own right, great
songs on their own.
And Kiss sold out too, becausethe record company said that's
your biggest hit, we wantanother one.
And so they went out and triedto write another ballad for the
record company and for them,because they wanted that money

(44:43):
too.
Who did Kiss Kiss?

did they always won money?
What was their other ballad,Beth Okay and Hard Luck Woman
right Hard Luck Woman was kindof a Hard Luck Woman was on the
next record.

Yeah, and so they tried to.
You know, just like, okay, youhave Dream On right on the first
album and then the next album,or two albums later, they,
aerosmith, does you Hear MeCalling?
I mean you See Me Cry.
They, uh, arrowsmith, does youhear me calling?
I mean, you see me crying, yousee me crying, you see me crying
.
Right, and they try, and so,and they try to mimic that

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popularity it's it's pretty Idon't know that they're trying
to mimic popularity.

They're trying to explore a different side of
their sound it's, it's the, it's, the, it's the.

Uh, you wait a minute.
You think al stewart syndrome.
It's the al stewart syndrome.
It's the Al Stewart syndrome.

Year of the Cat and Time.

Passages are the same fucking song.
They're the same song.

No, they're not.

They are If you look at the breakdown of it and
I say he's brilliant for doingthis.
Al Stewart is brilliant.
His biggest hit was Year of theCat.
He didn't really have anythingafter that.
Then he comes out with all of asudden.
Sometime later he comes outwith all of a sudden, sometime
later he comes out with timepassages.
If you listen to the songs backto back, you'll hear they have
the same type of uh, the samemood that that sets it.

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It has the same breakdowns ithas.
It's written almost exactly thesame.
The way it's choreographed notchoreographed the way it's um,
structured, the way it'sstructured.
They're the same song.
It's brilliant because he had ahit with time passages.
Right, he didn't have anythingreally after that.
I don't know if I buy that.
Uh, I'm go listen to it.

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I I know it's fact.
He did it.
He re-fucking designed, heredesigned, uh, a year of the
cat and so, and it worked, itworked.
He fucking.
He's making money off both ofthose songs and both of them are
great songs.
Dream on, and you see me cryinga great fucking songs.
I actually, like you, seemcrying better than dream on.

Right, but because?
Because dream on was, you know,more overplayed.

Oh, you know what?
I'm not going to argue with youthere.
I'm not going to say that, no,but I just think it's more.
It's a bigger song.
I think it's more how can I?
Dynamic.
It just has a lot more going on.
Dream On is kind of strippeddown.
It's a stripped down song andthen it has the big crescendo at
the end.

Dream On is iconic.
Iconic.
I don't know how you can.
No, it is, I'm not, I'm notdogging.
Look everybody's, everybody'sgot their opinion.
You know, you see me crying is.

It is a great too, but it's, it's not dream on no,
I think it's a better song, butit's not dream on no, and I
agree with you there no, no,it's not, you're wrong wrong.

Oh, welcome back , Jack, give me another fucking
song.
You don't know what you'retalking about.
Give me another song.

We're on number six.
We're on number six.
Give me, give me another song.

I get a couple of them.
Um, all right, here's, here'sone.
This one one is a little bitfar out.
Are you ready?
Yeah, I don't know the year.
I'd say it was probably like 8283.
Thomas dolby, one of oursubmarines, is missing.
Oh, that's his best song I lovethat song.

can you pull it up ?
I am.
I am right now, uh, no one ofour yeah Great song.
This is definitely a lost hitTonight.

It's a little bit of a theme here, right.

A little melancholy, yeah, I think,
because you're getting old, youlost your edge, you're losing
your edge.

Oh, I am, you were just playing alice cooper,
ah you ain't me I love the synth.

I love the synth.
I love the synth.
Let's bring it up to the middle.
I love the synth.
Let's bring it up to the middle.
It's a good album cover too.

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Wireless is a good album cover.
It's a good album.
You know he has no relationshipto the Dolby Because there was
that rumor that he was relatedto the Family, the Dolby that
created Dolby Sound.

He's not related to the Dolby's.
He's not related to Thomas'English muffins.

Or Thomas Edison For that matter.

Come on, that was a good, that's a good song.

I have not argued with any of your songs yet.
They are definitely good.
Come on, that was a good pick.
That's a good song, good pick.
I have not argued with any ofyour songs yet.
They are definitely good songs.
This one came out in 1987.
It's a foreign band, let me see, and it is definitely a lost

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hit.
There we go, this peaked atnumber three.

This one goes out to Scotty McLean.

You got it, yet Peaked at number three.
Who does it?
Who does it?

Oh, I don't know , but it's.

Is this?
Come on, it's a foreign band.

Is this Europe?
It's not foreigner.
Is this Europe?

Is this Europe?
Yeah, good boy.
The name of the song is Carrie.

So hey, look, I got to say for the record.
Two seconds ago you said that Ilost my edge.
Listen to the shit you'replaying.

Look, you're playing fucking story songs,
you're playing story songsplaying fucking story songs.
You're playing story songs,fucking story songs.
Okay, give me number seven.
Give me your number six.
Was that your?

number six.
You know this is a guiltypleasure song, but one that they
never play.
Marshall Crenshaw, wheneverYou're On my Mind.

Ah, Marshall Crenshaw.
What do you think of him?

I like this song .
He you know he was Chock fullof promise.
He was going to be the next bigthing and he was not the next
big.
Thing.
He wasn't no.

This is a good song.

It's a great song.

Yeah, this is a good song.
It's a great song.
Yeah, that's a good song, yeah.

Catchy as hell.

It is.
His songs are catchy, right.
I love this song.
Yeah, good, good song.
Love it.
Yeah, alright, I'm gonna pullthis one out, this one.
This song Came out in 95,peaked at number 39.

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Let me see, I love this song.
I know Tal Mark Tal loves thissong too.
Came out and he was a.
I'll just I'll play it and seeif you know it.
Who is it?

This is Adam Ant Wonderful.

Yes.

You know, you know who loves this song.

Deb.

The beautiful Miss Debra.

You know what I love If you get closer to the
fucking microphone.
That hasn't changed, Fuck off.

I'm out of practice.
What can I tell you?
That?

has not changed.
Prick Adam Ant Wonderful.
I was working at a record storein California when this came
out Good song.
He just this was a little bitof a comeback, but he never
really.
Terry Ray says Karen Carpenterand Evan Legend, and hey, you

(53:12):
know what Terry Ray is not.
By the way, my friend Terry Ray, I love Terry Ray.
We go back in customs, back tothe, to the 20s, 2010s or
whatever, and he's up in fuckinggodforsaken Buffalo, but that's
his hometown, so he loves itand anyway, go Bills, I'm go
Bills, I'm a Bills fan this year.
But Karen Carpenter at one timewas in his highly regarded one

(53:37):
of the greatest drummers everand she was a masterful drummer
and she was talented.
She is a legend.
Karen Carpenter is a legend,would you say?

say, she was a fine drummer, you know.
I mean, I can show you.

I can show you the list where she was considered
in the top 10 best drummers I'msure, I'm sure you know, but
you're just a misogynist.
You're a misogynist.
Hold on just.
You are all about thepatriarchy.
Look at look at motherfucker.
Look at motherfucker.
2020 is not dead in my world,motherfucker, wow wow yeah, yeah

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, you're a misogynist, you're,you're, uh, you're all about the
patriarchy karen carpenter is.
Just because she's female, youdon't like her, what?

are you?

doing.
I'm not done.
I can keep going.
What are you doing?
Read Say something You'resupposed to argue with me.

Hey, I'm just looking at my list, because I do
know that you are.

You love a good drum solo, you love a good drum
solo.
You do love a good drum solo.
I do not like a good drum soloat all.
You know that actually came upon the show a number of times
when Mark and Lou used to do it.
No, nobody likes it.

Your hate for drum solos came up.
Unless you're Neil Peart,forget the drum solos, pierret.
Unless you're near pierret,neil pierret, forget the drum
solos.
It was what you know.
One of the things that used todrive me absolutely fucking
bonkers about going to see vanhalen was you gotta give michael
anthony his little bass soloyou gotta give alex his drum
solo and I'm like you know howmany good songs you guys could
have played instead of this shit.

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Oh, wow, you know, michaelanthony, you could.
You got the bass that's shapedlike a Jack Daniels bottle and
you're throwing it on the stageLike you know what.
Throw it on the stage and justleave it there.

So you're saying when you saw Kiss, you walked
out on Gene Simmons' bass solofor God of Thunder.
Oh God, that's when the whole.
When I saw him at ProvidenceCivic Center, they fly to.
He flies to the top of thefucking auditorium yeah, he
spits the blood out on the crowdhe spits the corn syrup with
the.

Yeah, the red you know the red dye number two
in it.
Yeah, exactly see, this is whatyou do.
You get a bunch of corn syrupand then you get those
old-fashioned pistachio nutsfrom the 70s remember when they
used to be red.
You soak them in the corn syrup.
You just brought that.

No shit, they're not fucking red anymore.
No, remember they used to bered.
You soaked them in the cornsyrup.
You just brought that.
No shit, they're not fuckingred anymore.

No, remember, they used to stain your fingers.
I forgot all about that.

What the fuck?
How did I miss that?
Yeah, you're right, that'sright.
Didn't they fucking roll thosein dye and then put them in a?

bag Red dye number two.

Terry Ray nailed it.
That is the comment of thenight best drum solo hands down
is animal from muppets.

So I saw, I saw every van halen tour from from
1980 on and every time theystarted that drum.
So, alex van halen, I was likeall right time to get a beer.
I'm gonna go get a beer.
See you in 15 minutes.
Alright, give me another song,give me another song.
Who cares?

Give me another song.

Okay, I have a couple To pick from.
Let's see how about.
You know what?
I'm going to go kind of deep onthis one the Jake and Iles Band
, same album.
I'll give you two cuts that youcan choose from One Last Kiss
or Teresa.

Let's go with this one.
There we go.
Oh, shut the fuck up, thatstarts off like YMCA.
I swear to God, it sounds justlike YMCA.
Okay.

Yeah, that's nothing like YMCA.
It is Not at all.

Just one last kiss , right yeah, just one last Kiss
, right yeah, just one last kiss, good one, the.

Dome.
So here's my question Is that abig hit for them, or is it just
a regional thing in the Bostonarea, because the Jay Giles Band
are around New England?

I'm going to say it was regional.
I'm going to say it wasregional.
I'm going to say it wasregional.

Yeah, I don't know how big that song was in
California.

This is why they're not going to get into
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
We Bostonians and especiallyDave Phillips, king of the 45s,
thinks that they need to be inthe Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
because he grew up in the NewEngland area.
Right, so they were much biggerin New England than they were
in, like you just said,california.

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You know, aside from a few hits, they're not really that big a
deal.
They're a big deal, but they'renot a Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame deal.
Wait a minute.

Are you telling me that the Jay Giles Band
doesn't belong in the Rock andRoll Hall of Fame?
But who just got in from Canada?
The Tragically Hip Name me five?

Tragically Hip songs, look it.
I'm not saying they belong inthere.
I'm not saying Cheryl Crowbelongs in there.
Cheryl Crow has some good songs.
Cheryl Crow has had a bigcareer If she's got in before
Jay Giles Band.
So I mean, come on Really, likeI don't know, man, and we have
this debate all the time andwe're not going to change

(59:25):
anything.

But come on, man , you know, but I mean, I agree
with you.
I think that the Jay Giles bandit's going to be a long time
before they get in, if they getin at all.

If they get in, if they get in at all, if they get
in at all, exactly, yeah, butthat is a good song.
That was, but that was a wbcnsong.
I would say, uh, all right, I'mgonna go with this one.
Oh shit, this motherfucker.
You're gonna remember this, butyou're not gonna know who sang
it.
You're not gonna know.
This song came out in 1987.
Okay, it peaked at number 23,and I'll even tell you that

(01:00:00):
they're from scotland.
Okay, but you're not going toknow who the fuck's saying this
is this mary's mary's room.

Jack Calabrese (01:00:23):
Mary's prayer.

Scott McLean (01:00:25):
Mary's prayer good call them did I have to make
this face when I was.

Suddenly the heavens roll, suddenly the rain
came down.
This is a fucking terrible song.

Yeah, but it fucking peaked at number 23.
Danny Wilson Danny Wilson wasthe name of the band.

They never did anything again.
I never would have guessed that.
No, never.

No, you got to be an 80s lunatic to fucking know
that, to know that, unless, itwas your favorite song ever.
All right, give me one more.
Give me one more.

Let's see.
All right, so this one?
You might say, ah, this onedoesn't really count, but I
think that there are someartists that have a legacy and
they only play certain songs andthen they move on and to do
other things in their initialkind of history and their early

(01:01:29):
stuff gets forgotten about.
One of my favorite songs thatis not played on the radio very
often is rod stewart.
Every picture tells a story.

Such a kick-ass tune, but I'm not thinking it's
a lost hit see, I knew, I knewyou.

You might question.

I don't think it is because I heard it on the
radio recently and my wife waslike because at the end, when
he's just doing, every picturetells a a story, don't it?
And finally we get in thedriveway and I turn the car off
and my wife says, thank God.
So do you want a different oneinstead.
Yeah, I don't think that that'sa lost hit.

(01:02:09):
I think it's played frequently.

How about Space Hog in the meantime?

Ooh, there you go.
Now you know the lead singer.
You know who he was married to.
For a minute, he was married toLiv Tyler, wasn't he?
Yes, he was, yes, he was, and Ilove this song.
I fucking love this song,actually, adding it to my
playlist right now, if it's notalready in there, let me see.

I feel so bad that I haven't added any of
yours to my playlist.

I have a finely manicured playlist of 449 songs.
Now it's got a great cover.
I don't know if you can see it.
You can't really see it.
It's a visa.
That's pretty good, great song.

(01:03:08):
Yeah, that's definitely a losthit, definitely a lost hit, and
it hits a big crescendo at theend, which is what I like.
It starts off big and it getsbigger, it goes low and then it
goes high.
It's a great song.
All right, I'm going to come upwith this.
This will be my last one.
Then I want to get a couple ofsongs I know it's getting a

(01:03:30):
little late for you.
I want to get a couple songs ofmemory songs.
What's going to pull out amemory?
I'm going to name a song.
You give me a song and see ifthere's a memory attached to it.
But let me finish up the losthits.
So this group had a number ofhits.
They were fairly successful inthe 1990s.

(01:03:51):
Let me see this song peaked atnumber 11 in 1999.
But it wasn't their biggestsong and it's not their most
popular song, but it's a goodsong.
You'll know it.
Good morning.

You know it.

Yeah, it's um.

Yeah, it's the dude that died.
What was it?
Smash Mouth?

Smash Mouth.
Yep, you are the few that's out, you are the antibody, mind,
soul and soul.
And the song is Then theMorning Comes and the world's a
state.
So I've said this in the pastthey started off as a ska band
and that album, walking on theSun, came with that song and it

(01:04:57):
came out and I bought the cd andI was all jacked.
I'm like this is a great sound.
I love that kind of surf type,you know, 50s type sound, you
know and he is, he's singing, he, you know he had an edge, yeah
exactly, and then the guitarplaying, and then I listened to
the fucking CD and it's all skamusic, except for that song,

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like what the fuck.
Right, like what the fuck?
And so what happened was justlike no Doubt ska was never
going to be popular in theUnited States, no matter how
hard they tried, because noDoubt was a ska band also.
Yeah, but no Doubt was huge.
Yeah, but they weren't ska.
They were huge after.

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I'm Just a Girl right Now.
You can have a ska influence,but you can't be a straight-up
ska band and make it in theUnited States.

No, I mean come on, you can make the argument
Mighty mighty boss tones were a.
Okay, just keep cutting me off.
Why am I even on this show, ohJesus.

Because I wasn't done yet.
But go ahead, go ahead.
Finish.

Come on, finish the police.

They were Scar influence and I just said that.
I just said Scar influence bandis good, but not a straight-up
Ska band Like Mighty.
Mighty Boss Tones made it right.
And then there's a few, there'sa few.

They're a Ska Influenced Band, but they play.

Ska music.

Yes, they do.

Yeah, I mean when you get the fucking hype guy
jumping around on stage, that'sa Ska band.
It's like the moniker of everyska band is the hype guy that
does nothing.

It's like ranking.

Roger was the greatest ska guy ever.

English beat right.

Yeah, yeah, he's the greatest ska guy ever, right
, yeah?
But so they catch fire withWalking on the Sun and they're
like, oh, oh, now I get it,we're going to start playing
that kind of music.
And they left scar in the dust,just like Google dolls left

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their fucking hard rock songs inthe dust, you know, because
this is where we make the money.

Yeah, you want to.
You know you want to be able toafford what you're doing.
I mean, look, you know, earlierin the conversation we were
talking about aris smith andtheir their songs in the 80s.
I remember steven tyler sayingyou know, look, we love um, you
know living on the edge andloving an elevator and all that
stuff.
But we recognize that that'snot really our stuff.

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Right, it allows us to play theother stuff that we love.
It sustained them, it reunitedthem, it reinvigorated them.

It reinvigorated their fucking bank account is
what it did.
It sure did.
They were great.

I think at that point.

That's what they were looking for.
Now they love the attention andthey love the hits and they
love the whole thing.
But in the end, making music isabout money, and that proved to
be true in the 80s when bandslike uh the rolling stones
started to break out and selltheir songs.
Remember that was as taboo asit ever got in the music

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industry.
You sold out, you sold yoursong to a corporate you know
entity, and and then it's likenow they're selling their
catalogs yeah, you know the, theartists.

They really can't win though.
Right, you know, you know so.
Like uh, u2, rem, any band thathas been around for a long time
, oh my god, they're not as goodas they used to be.
They changed their sound, right.
And then you pivot to, you knowsocial D or the Ramones, and
say, or even ACDC, ah, they allsound the same.
You know, you just can't win.

Yeah, yeah, no, you can't, you can't you can't.

Did you have any more, or are we done with this
part?
I think we'd be done with thatpart.
Yeah Well, I had two more thatI wanted to.

Okay, yeah, yeah, I can pull them up.
I have one more, then I'll doone more after you, and then you
finish.

So I told you earlier that I had Pete Townsend
and I actually had two thatboth offer the same record.

Now, if all the best cowboys have Chinese eyes,
I don't think they lost hits.
Slit skirts.

Stardom in action.
No, rough Boys is not on thatrecord.
Oh good, oh, that's right.
What about stardom?

in action.
Let me see it's got a littlebit of a long intro so you might
want to go into it a little bit, pete Sonson.

I never understood why Stardom in action
, so you might want to go intoit a little bit, pete sounds.
I never understood why thisstardom in action.

I never understood why this wasn't a bigger song
for him.
Trying to find it here.

How do you spell it?

Start right.
Stardom, no, stardom.
Som s s t a r d?
O, m, oh, stardom.

Okay, all right, that's why I was like that's
not coming out.
It's the boston accent stardomin action.
Here we go.
All right, let's play it yeah.

I love this album.
I bought this album I wasworking at Fidelity Investments.
I was in the print shop and Ibought this at Strawberries.
I bought this album onelunchtime.
I went down there and picked upAll the Best Cowboys have
Chinese Eyes Great album.

You never hear this song on the radio.
This is a great, great tune.
I don't know why it never gotits due.

No, no, can you turn it up just a little bit.

Yeah, no, no, and I think you turn it up just
a little bit.
Yeah, great song.
Yeah, bobby d.
Happy new year to you too.

Bob D what's up, my brother?
Happy New Year.
Alright, I'm gonna pull thisone up.
This girl, this girl had a, shehad a good, she had a good run.
Let me see this song came outIn 2003.
And Let me see this song cameout in 2003.

And let me see, there we go.
What is that?

T-shirt you're wearing Cuphead.
It's a video game.
Then they turned it into acomic, Like a cartoon on Netflix
Cuphead.

That's really nice.

Don't deal with the devil, so do you walk around
in public in that shirt?
I do, I do.
It gets a lot of comments too,by the way.

So wait a minute , you walk around with that
shirt, yeah, in white socks, inflip-flops.

In flip-flops, yeah, yeah.

No one fucks with me, jack.
I'm sure they don't.
Don't touch his ears, exactly.

I walk around with earmuffs on.
I should stop doing that.
Okay, this song peaked atnumber 16.
Hi Scott, how are you?

How are you, here we go.

Now this is 2003.
Maybe you were listening to theradio, Maybe you weren't.
It's a good song actuallyactually no, does the song sound

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familiar at all?

the, the uh voice sounds familiar to me.
It sounds almost like what wasthe name of that band.

No Seether Seether .
Yeah Right, good call.
It does sound like the girlfrom Seether.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Could you love me in the eyes?
Who is it?

Is it?

Tracy Ball.

She did a duet with Carlos Santana.
Yeah, I think it was herMichelle Branch, Michelle Branch
yeah.
I always liked her.
Allison Lindley said AvrilLavigne Nope Close.
Did you ever see the conspiracytheory about the fake Avril
Lavigne?

No.

Dude, you gotta go on youtube and go down that
rabbit hole, the fake.
They think avril lavigne iseither the real.
Avril lavigne is either dead orshe quit in in.
Avril lavigne was such amoneymaker that they had a body
double come in and there'speople that go in and break down
the look like the eyes likeit's.

It's fucking crazy I'll tell you not, it's
kind of related.
Not not last year, it was thelast year of the year before my
kids went to boston calling.
They probably saw 30 bands,yeah, and avril lavigne was
their favorite really, and mykids are pretty astute in terms
of their taste.

(01:14:36):
Sure, I think they were totallysurprised at her presence.
Yeah, her delivery.
They said she was amazing.
She's a professional, for sure.
All right, let me give you onemore.

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, OK.

Blue on Black by Kenny Wayne Shepard, here we go
.
This song's just got greatatmosphere In a monster guitar
solo, just grungy dirty.
Oh yeah, yeah.

(01:15:21):
Yeah, my list has kind of comefull circle because this sounds
like a Molly Hatchett song yeah,yeah, let me jump ahead.

Whatever happened to him.

He's still around.

Just never really he.

he has his following right he's, you know,
he's kind of in that, that's,you know, social d category,
right, he's a working musician.
He still tours probably everyyear, plays a bunch of blues
festivals.
You know, really amazingmusician, but just not, you know
, maybe it's because he's notplaying to what the public wants
here he's doing what he wants.
Who knows?
Right.

(01:16:01):
But I'll tell you, I'll tellyou if you put that on your
playlist when you're walking inyour flip flops.
Yeah, that guitar solo gives mechills.
Okay, it's just dirty grungy.

He's no, matthew Sweet, but okay, all right.
Yeah, good list, list, goodlist.
I got a couple from you.
I added them into my, uh, myplace.
All right, I want to get acouple memories.
I'm gonna give you a song andtell me the memory that's
attached to it.
Okay, first one I'm gonna giveyou is stone temple.
Pilots plush came out in 92.

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What's the memory attached tothat?
Now, for the listeners, wedidn't go over this list ahead
of ahead of time.
So whatever I, I say, whateverjack says, the memory that comes
with it is just right off thetop of your head.
Do you have anything inparticular?
Like I do do this.
It's kind of like you gotta, Ihave to know you like I know you
.
So I know you know these songsand I know that there's things

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that you must have attached tothem.
That's how I looked at it whenI made this list.

Yeah, I mean it's not really that interesting
of a memory, but when Plushcame out I was working in Boston
, as was my future wife, but weworked on opposite ends of the
Boston Comet and I actually hadCore with plush on it, stone

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temple pilots.
On my yellow cassette, walkman,see, and I would.
I would put that on from mywalk from Boylston street and I
would meet her at this benchunder the same tree every day
and I would just blow the shitout of my ears playing that song
there you go see, that's thememory yeah, I mean it's, it's a

(01:18:06):
, it's not a very specificmemory no, no, it's a good
memory, though.

It's a good memory it has.
Every song has it has.

I'm rubbing my eyes, I'm getting getting tired.

Oh my God, we're almost done.
I won't do this day of musicfor you.
Okay, let's just move on, butit's got a good.
What happened when it rained orif it was wintertime?
Did you still meet that fuckingbench?

Yeah, I mean, were there times where I was
like you know, I'll just meetyour government center, or
something like that?
Yeah, I'm sure that happened aswell.
But you know what, back in theday, even back then, we had
things that we used to callumbrellas, yeah, and winter
coats, yeah.

Yeah, we're bostonians, we're not down in
boca, and our flip-flops, well,I don't know if I ever met a
girl that was.
I did walk to a blizzard to getto a, to get to a girl anyways.
So I, I, I can, I, I I'm withyou, but what?

what song do you associate with that walk?

with that walk.
You know what the song is?
Um, take a look at me now,because there's just an empty
face what is it with you today?

you're playing all these weird fucking ballads
I don't know.

I don't know, or maybe I'll stop the world in
mouth for you, but it was thewinter time, so that's not
really happening, so that didn'thappen.
All right, give me, give me asong.
Give me a song you think evokesa memory b-52s rock lobster
b-52s, rock lobster.
Okay, uh, went to high school1980, I was, uh, I think it was

(01:19:39):
probably my senior year.
I was, I graduated in 81.
So it was probably thebeginning of my senior year.
Uh, we were selling mirrors,remember, you used to have those
12 by 12 mirrors and with thehigh school and me and Richie
DiMaria they had like John Cashand them had this like they put
the Viking, our school mascot ontheir mirrors and you know
you'd have like the, the viking,our school mascot on their
mirrors and you know you'd havelike the, the blue tape or

(01:19:59):
whatever for the edges of themirror and we sold them for like
five bucks each or somethingand me and richie damaria made a
bunch of, uh, b52, rock lobstermirrors, right, and don't you
wish you still had one I do, doyou.

Do you still have one?

It was.
No, it was screen printed ontothe mirror.
You know what I mean.
And uh, they were fucking coolas shit man.
But nobody bought one.
They all bought the winterVikings one.
So yeah, I think Jack justfroze again.
I don't know if he's stillthere.
That means he's getting tired,his computer's getting tired,

(01:20:39):
that's something.
But see, he does live in newhampshire, so his wi-fi isn't
he's probably.
You know where are you, jack,let me turn him off.
There he goes.
Now he'll come back again.
Here we go, yeah.
So yeah, that was the story ofthe b-52 is rock lobster, and
then I saw them at Hampton BeachCasino.

Club Casino in Hampton Beach.
You saw them early.

Saw them early Till Tuesday, backed them up.
We didn't get to see tillTuesday, but I was right at the
stage at the Club Casino.
Yeah, I got a ticket thatwasn't mine and I ended up
sitting right at the fuckingstage.
Shocking, yeah, I know, I know,all right, at the fucking stage
.
Shocking that was, I know, Iknow.

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Uh, all right, I'm gonna giveyou a song counting crows.

Mr jones and me.
Oh god, by the way, it's notcalled mr jones and me oh, mr
jones, yeah, mr jones, 1993,1993, um 1993.
I used to hear that song a lotwhen I was working at
Blanchard's Liquor Store inRevere, massachusetts, and I

(01:21:48):
liked it.
I liked that song you know alot, so it always made me happy
when it came on.
Well, you know, back in the day, you know.
So you know, deb and I we hadVanessa and we still we had no
money.
We were, you know, living on ashoestring budget.
So I was working as anunderwriter in the insurance
industry during the day and thenI was working like three or

(01:22:09):
four nights a week atBlanchard's hauling kegs of beer
and stocking shelves and tryingto stop shoplifters.

Blanchard's is a big liquor store.
For people that don't know it,it's a it was.

It was.
It was a weird liquor storewhere you know these young kids
with, you know nice clothes,would come in and you had no
idea where they got the money.
But they would be buyingbottles of like hennessy and
like really expensive likecavassier, and and then you
would have these older peoplethat would come in and get the
bottles of Hennessy and reallyexpensive Cavasier.
And then you would have theseolder people that would come in
and get the cheapest booze thatthey had when they'd be paying

(01:22:45):
with change.
And I remember one time thisguy came in with a stack of $2
bills from the 30s that heobviously had in his drawer his
whole life but he just neededthat bottle of To oh or vodka,
whatever it is there sugar in abottle.
But that was that, that was a,it was a, it was a fun job, it

(01:23:06):
did what it did.
But, um, you know I had acouple of minor uh acts of
violence and I was like, look,I'm making minimum wage here.
I was like what am I'm makingminimum wage here?
I was like what am I doing?

And that's what the song.

The one thing that I remember is, you know, at
the end of the night I used tohave to pull down the metal
grates back in the day.
You know the liquor stores youknow closed at at 11.
And I remember, especially if Iworked on a Saturday night and
this was back in the blue lawswhen they the liquor stores
weren't open on Sundays andpeople would be peeling into the
parking lot begging me to letthem in.

Yeah, you know, like literally.

I'd be pulling the grate down and people would
be scurrying under the old bluelaws.
You know, just I got to go getmy case of yinglings For Sunday,
so I can make it through Sunday.
All right, I'm sorry.
How about the devil went?

down to Georgia.
Devil went down to Georgiareminds me of the summer of 82.
I think it was Uh Winthrop,they, uh Charlie Daniels band
was playing at the uh concertson the common, the Boston common
, and a whole bunch of us wentin Common, the Boston Common,
and a whole bunch of us went inus city kids, so to speak but we
all had cowboy hats on.
We were down with it becauseCharlie Daniels back then was

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the shit right, he was cool tolisten to.
We didn't really look at him asan old country Western guy
because Devil Came Down toGeorgia, came out and really hit
the top 40, and we all went inthere and we ended up carrying
uh once again.
John Cash, who gets referencedby me in two stories now uh gets
carried out like a dead body aswe and you were there as we

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held him up because he drank waytoo much.
Jack Daniels literally couldn'twalk, literally drank, and we
didn't.
Back then we didn't thinkanything of it.
Let's just carry him out.

So couldn't walk , literally drank and we didn't.
Back then we didn't thinkanything of it, let's just carry
him out.
So it was like.
It was like a new orleansfucking funeral.
Do I?
Do I have this?

memory right.
Were there way too many peoplein the back of a pickup truck?
Way too many?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whichwhich fit perfect for the whole,
you know, redneck thing.
Yes, yes, so that's my memoryof john I, I, I baited you with
that one.

I knew that's what you were gonna talk.
Yeah, buddy, that's that's thememory.

Uh, rolling stones , love is strong.
From 94 voodoo lounge, which isone of their best.
That's a great video, by theway it's a great video.

It's a great song.
Yeah, the thing that I rememberabout that in 94, it wasn't
right when it first came out,but Deb used to work at night
and when I was watching the kidswhen they were a little bit

(01:25:55):
older, so this is probably morelike 95, 96.
I used to crank that song andthey used to dance around in
their diapers.
Yeah, you know they they lovethat song, especially the
harmonica was just awesome.

Yeah, yeah, uh, give me one.

Uh, how about the first time you heard?
Or when the Streets have noName?

Where the Streets have no Name Reminds me of Well
okay, joshua Tree album Streetshave no Name.
I was in Winthrop Getting readyto go in the Air Force.
I was getting ready to go inthe Air Force so I got to see
the Unforgettable Fire Tour atthe Worcester Centrum.
I believe Billy Idol backedthem up back in.

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It was like I don't know, 86?
Was it 86, 87?
Because I went in in May 87 andwent in the Air Force Joshua
Tree's 87.
87, okay, so it was thebeginning of 87 then and I saw
them and, like I said, I thinkBilly Idol backed them up and uh
, yeah, and then that it bringsme to basic training.

(01:27:06):
I got in there and so I'm goingto be in San Antonio for 18
weeks because of all thetraining.
So, uh, they in the six week ofbasic training, six weeks,
halfway through, they let you gointo town, but you have to wear
your uniform into town.
I'm like fuck that.
I'm going to be here for abunch of more weeks.
I'm going to take this time andI'm going to go to the base
pool and I'm just going to go.

(01:27:27):
So it's June, right, it's Juneor July, and so I go to the
little base exchange and I buy acassette player, a Walkman, and
I buy the Unforgettable Fireand I buy a pair of shorts and I
go to the pool and I listen tothat fucking cassette over and
over and over.
Now it's time to go back tobasic training, where if you

(01:27:48):
bought anything downtown it goesin the closet.
Okay, you have no creaturecomforts in basic training
nothing.
But I'm keeping that fuckingcassette player, I'm keeping
that Walkman, but I'm keepingthat fucking cassette player,
I'm keeping that Walkman and I'mkeeping that fucking cassette.
And I went and I hid it in thebathroom at the last fucking
stall, all the way down rightbehind the toilet, and I would
go in there almost every nightafter the TIs leave and I would

(01:28:11):
listen to that fucking cassetteover and over again, over and
over again.
And of course, where theStreets have no Name was the
second biggest song on thatcassette, that album right
Behind With or Without you.
So that's my memory to when theStreets have no Name.

I would have to say, if anybody was keeping
track of all the songs thatyou've played in your life when
the Streets have no Name isdefinitely in my top, maybe five
I've.
I've played that song literallyhundreds and hundreds of times
and it's still gives me a charge.

You know what?
And it's the, the on the, the,the, the movie rattle and hum.
At the end you have that wholescene where the beginning of
with streets have no name isplayed.
And you see, they're in,they're in, they're in, uh,
they're in, I believe, sun devilstadium.
And they get the big backdropscreen is red in the, the, the

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Joshua trees, real trees, andyou see Bono silhouette come out
onto the stage.
Right, he's got the cowboy outon.
You know that was that was shotlike fucking 10 times to get
the right angle.

I'm not surprised, imagine being at that
concert.

You got to see that 10 times.

Cut, but you know, never mind rattle and hum.
How cool was the video for whenthe Streets have no Name?
Yeah, on top of the liquorstore, yeah.

The cops trying to shut them down.
The Beatles, right yeah,they're shutting us down.
They're shutting us down.
They're shutting us down.
Let's go, yeah, yeah, imagineit's those when you could do
that back then.
Bands can't do that now.

Deb tells the story.
You know, deb was living inCalifornia when they did that
and I think she had friends thatwere like let's get up there,
and Deb was like we're nevergoing to get up there in time.

Yeah, but people still went right.
Oh yeah, All right, let me giveyou one more.
I'll give you one more, andthen you give me one more.
This one.
Okay, I can't wait for this one.
Led Zeppelin, Black Dog what'sthe memory?

to Led Zeppelin, black Dog, take your pick Greg
Porter's basement, daveDeVinceman's basement, my
basement, almost any basement inWinthrop, you know, listening
to Led Zeppelin smoking probablythe worst weed.

Ricky Carlingon's living room.
God rest his soul.
That's where.
Black Dog comes back to thatdrinking, drinking Budweiser's
during the day, when theirparents are gone for work and
we're at fucking.
It's the summertime and we'refucking drunk by one in the
afternoon you know, I still notnot oh, he froze again.

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Come on, you froze again, jack.
Yeah, I know he can see me, butlet's see, go off, come back on
again.
Maybe this works.
I don't think that works.
He has to do it, come on.

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Come on, this is a long one.
Okay, jack, if you can see me.
Of course, it happened at thebeginning, it's going to happen
at the end.
This one is an extra long one,though.

(01:31:39):
Come on, buddy, whack thefucking Wi-Fi box like an old tv
, just fucking hit it.
Do something.
Come back, jack, come back.
Come on, there, we go.
All right, he'll be back in asecond.
Oh well, nope, maybe he's.

(01:32:00):
Usually he popped right in.
Is that going to be his exitfrom the show, is he?
Oh, I was going to say that's abad way to go out there.
He is All right, all right.
You were saying I regret, Iregret.

So with the black dog, I was just saying,
you know, you know, back backwhen we were in like our early
teens.
I was just saying, you know,back when we were in our early
teens, for whatever reason,winthrop was into the Doors and
Zeppelin and Aerosmith and a lotof classic rock and all that's
fine, but we weren't listeningto or a lot of people in general

(01:32:38):
weren't listening to the SexPistols or the Clash or XTC,
like a lot of people missed alot of that stuff.
You and I didn't, but no, no,we didn't.
But even in the early days itwas like you know, for whatever
reason, we held on to thosebands, like everybody was like
Zeppelin, zeppelin, zeppelin,but they were gone, yeah.

Yeah, like a good example of that is once the big
Doors phenomenon that was goingon in Winthrop for like the
whole year of 1981, right, likeI was listening to XTC, like
we're only making plans forNigel or something like that.
You know, I was alwayslistening to some disco and I
was listening to funk.
And this is on the side at home.

(01:33:23):
Right, because, god forbid, youput a mixtape in there that has
ohio players on it.
You know what I mean what thefuck.
Is that what the fuck you know?

but I was in my beanbag listening to that shit?
They would.
They would question yourmanhood if you put anything on
that wasn't.
They would question yourmanhood if you put anything on
that wasn't.

Oh, the shit I fucking caught for listening to
fucking rap back in the early80s.
The shit that I caught.

Yeah.

I won't even repeat the shit that was said to
me by my friends, which I waslike you just don't get it.
No, I don't.
There's still people to thisday that fucking resent that
whole hip hop and rap thing.
But I was listening to thatshit and I'd put it on a tape,
like I would come in with likegrandmaster flash and the
furious five on a tape and I Iwould just fucking hear it, I

(01:34:13):
would hear it but that you know,there were a lot of people that
we grew up with that ignored alot of really kind of like
cutting edge andtransformational bands like yeah
, well, like that.

You know the ramones were not a winthrop band
, no, they weren't at all at all.

No, no at all.
That was never played at aparty, never.

Yeah I mean, even you know, you know some of
the police records and all thatstuff.

Took a while for for that stuff to catch on
because people were so ingrainedinto well, I gotta listen to
skinnered well, and it broke outlike again when we had parties,
when you played in yourbasement you played the police
like and they'd be.
I remember one of us in there.

I wish I could remember the, the woman's name,
but she was like you throw thoseparties, you play all that
weird music.
Yeah, and I was playing.
I was playing the police andthe clash and and the Jam and
Joe Jackson, and I was playingLed Zeppelin and Aerosmith and
all that other stuff as well,but they were like you play that
weird, weird music.

So, while I have you here and somebody, bob
Doucette, said who's the new guy?
Right, who's the new guy?
But while I have you here,right, who's the new guy?
But while I have you here, somy my memory, since we're
talking about memories and I, Iwon't give me one more song for
us before I get to this, becausethis is a give me one more

(01:35:34):
memory song.
Um, jump by van halen.
Jump by van halen.
Okay, the album was 1984,correct?

Yes, wait a minute For $5,.
What year did it come out?

Yeah, exactly right.
So I just remember that Jumpbeing the first hit off of 1984
and the big, fucking, big run-upto that album, and I used to
record the radio.
Like I would hit the cassetteplayer and I would record the
radio and I had this great Iforget what station it was in
boston, but they did this wholebig build-up and it had music to

(01:36:12):
it and to the debut of 1984 andthey played it and then you
know that's the whole thingwould jump and the video, of
course.
The video probably at I don'tknow oaky's house, one of his
parties.
You know, when all of a suddenwe were watching MTV at parties
and, although it wasn't theprimary, although never in your
cellar, there was no TV in yourcellar.

(01:36:33):
That wouldn't have lasted.
But that's my memory of 1984, isthe whole debut of the album.
It was a big buildup to thatalbum too.
Oh, huge, big buildup, huge.
All right, give me squarefootage.
I have a memory of yourbasement and I thought about all
the fucking people that used tofit in there, right?
So I just recently, reallyhonestly, I just recently,

(01:36:57):
thought about this.
I'm like that was not a bigfucking basement.
What was the square footage ofthat basement?

You got me.

I have no idea 600 square feet Maybe, which is
like a fucking room, but therewere.
Well, my studio is bigger thanthat.

You know, those early days people were packed in
there.
Yeah, yeah, god forbid.
I mean, that was a fire trapand a half.

Oh, because there's really only one exit.
It's really no one's going upthose stairs.
You know what I mean.
It all bottlenecked right Atthat.
The bulkhead door was to the ifI remember, to the left, and
the stairs to your house werethey on the upstairs?
Were they on the right?
If you were from their DJ boothand you were looking out into

(01:37:49):
the room?

So if you're looking, remember dark board
behind was the record room.

Yeah.

To the left was the bar.
Yeah, beyond the bar was thelaundry room and the bathroom
that's right To the right waskind of like the main area and
there was the stairway in the inthe bathroom that's right to
the right, to the right was kindof like the main area and there
was the stairway up thebulkhead all right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, that was crazy man.

Yeah, they used to be packed, packed like 50 kids
stuffed in that fucking thing,especially in the winter time
dude heftyy lawn bags filledwith empties.
Yeah, and it could be fucking20 degrees out, but that fucking

(01:38:35):
basement, just because of bodyheat, would be 80 degrees down
there.
Big Head Todd the Wet Sprocketsays and then we'll finish this
up.
You brought them up twice, Jack, Remember the Ramones suck.
He said sick, but I know hemeans suck.

It's all a matter of personal preference.
You can say they suck, but thereality of it is they had their
legacy and they did their thing.
The fact that you don't likethem, you're welcome to your
opinion, but that doesn't meanthey suck.

Okay.

You suck.

Yeah, you suck being Ed Todd.
That wins for us.

You suck.

Jack, you got to answer the question.
One of your fans puts at thetop.
Is Jack back?
Jack is at the top is Jack back?

Jack, Jack is back.
When Jack can be back, oh well,that's not a no.

Oh, we need Amanda .
No, I can't.
Amanda's up in Florida state,so that ain't happening.
That was a good Christmas show,but you know, hey, I, I love a
good.

Christmas show.
But you know, hey, I love doingthe show.
It just you know.

Well, you just let me know.
You let me know week by week,and see, this one went more than
you thought, because we had alot to talk about.

I had so much more to talk to you about.

Well, I'm doing this for you.
Buddy'm gonna cut you short andif you want to pick it up next
week, as we used to do, we canpick it up next week I think I
might be able to do it next weekI, I, I will, I will.
This was fun.
I love you, buddy.
I love you.
I love doing the show with you.
I like you a lot too.
Jack is back.

(01:40:24):
People I'll say Jack is back,he might be just be friends.

I just don't, I just don't think of you in that
way.
I appreciate it.

Thanks anyway always better with the original
lineup.
There you go.
That's right, it's a reunionthank you very much, mr Kirkman.
See, jack, this is, this isthey're putting pressure on you,
buddy, so I'm just leaving itthere.
I'm just leaving it at that.
Do you like him or tolerate him?
I think he's talking to you,jack Steven Romano, do you like

(01:40:58):
him or tolerate him?
That can be asked of a lot ofpeople, a lot of people that can
be asked of All right,everybody.
Listen, jack, of course, myfriend, thank you for coming on.
This is great, great way tostart 2025.
Just like we started 2020.
Imagine that.

Hey look Scott.

Vintage camera.
Look at that, nice.
What do you got there, yashica,yashica D?
Ah, nice, nice, buddy, it's nota Roloflex, but I'll give it to
you.
I'll give it to you, yashica's.
A nice camera, nice camera.
Jack's tapping into my nerdside, my old camera collection.
See, big head Todd withsprockets.

(01:41:40):
He's glad you're back, jack.
See Putting the pressure on you, buddy.
So you know, we'll see, we'llsee.
But he said he'll be here nextweek and maybe he comes on
earlier before the show so hegets set up again.
But I won't expect anything.
Thank you, I won't expect that.
All right, everybody.
Thank you for watching, thankyou for listening, if you
liked't well, thanks forwatching and listening for an

(01:42:01):
hour and 49 minutes.
Jack is back, at least.
His contract is still beingnegotiated.
It's still being negotiated,but it was a great show Again,
great way to start off the year.
And, as I always say, like Isaid, thank you for watching,
thank you for listening.
You are the engine that runsthis machine.
Without you, it would just beme talking to Jack, and
sometimes that can get veryhostile.

(01:42:22):
Just be me talking to Jack, andsometimes that can get very
hostile, very hostile.

He's very hostile I heard.

This persona that you see on the screen and listen
to on your car speakers isreally a different person.
But you know he's diva.
But yeah, and doing the showfor you, to quote my favorite
artist, morrissey, well, thepleasure, the privilege is mine
and I will be back.
We will be back next Thursday.

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