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Ever wondered if rap artists can rock a stage as dynamically as legendary bands like U2? With a blend of humor and thoughtful analysis, Jack Calabrese and I tackle this hot debate, sparked by Kendrick Lamar’s much-anticipated Super Bowl halftime show. We swap stories about live performances, from the days of Prince’s iconic shows to the cutting-edge use of AI and holograms in concerts today. Our chat meanders through musical landscapes, comparing the bombastic flair of rock with the rhythmic allure of rap—proving that while styles may differ, the passion for live music remains universal.

As we journey through the music industry’s ever-evolving scene, we reflect on how titans like Madonna and Neil Young have weathered the storm of digital disruption. Higher concert ticket prices, legal squabbles, and the authenticity of music biopics all feed into our lively conversation. Jack and I reminisce about the good old days of working in record stores and the nostalgia-laden playlists that filled our ears back then. With anecdotes about lost hits and one-hit wonders, we paint a picture of a musical era both cherished and complex.

Our exploration of musical memories wouldn’t be complete without a nod to family connections, as we share how introducing our kids to diverse genres created bonds that transcend generations. From the culinary delights of a Publix Italian sub to the sweltering heat of Live Aid, our conversation flows with the ease of old friends reminiscing about the past. Join us for a heartfelt and humorous journey, as we wrap up with an amusing tale involving Don McLean and leave you eagerly anticipating Jack’s next appearance.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, here we are, episode 166.
Yeah, baby, welcome to 2025.
And on this episode, jack isback, Starting the year off.
Right, jack, my boy, jackCalabrese, the man the mouth,

(00:31):
the not a legend my brother inmicrophones.
Yeah, we're going to be talkingabout lost hits, songs that
provoke memories, all sorts ofgood stuff, and I'm sure Jack's
going to wax poetic aboutsomething at one point in time
or another.
It's inevitable, so sit back,relax and enjoy Jack.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
And me, of course, because well it's all about me
when I first met you baby Five,four, three, two, one zero.
All engines running Lift off.
We have a look out.
The KOFB Studio presents MilkRates and Turntables, a music

(01:17):
discussion podcast hosted byScott McClain.
Now let's talk music.
Enjoy the show.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Mesdames, messieurs, le disjockey s'achète de retour.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Public service.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
announcement Après le succès imprévu du titre it's my
Life.
Il dit merci à tous les autresdisjockeys pour leur coopération
fantastique.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That was a public service announcement and I agree
with everything that fine younglady just said with everything
that fine young lady just said,and I think I'll have a public
service announcement beforeevery show in the future,
because it just delays Jackcoming on.
I'm really taking my timebringing this guy on.

(02:22):
I'm really taking my timebringing this guy on and I know
he hates electronic dance musicso I thought I'd keep this going
a little more.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
The girl has a lot to say, no.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'm calling for.
Yeah, you know, I love mytechno, my EDM, the one and only

(03:02):
Jack Calabrese.
There he is, he's on.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
You can hear his fucking microphone rumbling
through the it's all right, it'sright there, it's just right
there, just relax just rightthere.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, let's get the comment, by the way.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
By the way, who who said that I hate electronic
dance music?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
that's not true at all well, steven romano just
commented and said everyonehates electronic dance because
that means you no, that does notmean, that means you steven
romano does not lie stevenromano does not lie, but he's
wrong about me dislikingelectronic dance music.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I happen to like electronic dance music very,
very much.
I don't think so.
What do you mean?
You don't think so.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't.
I've never heard you talk aboutit.
I've never heard you evenreference it.
I've never heard it on any ofyour playlists or any music
we've ever talked about.
You have never, ever mentionedanything.
Oh, the closest you come iscalling me Cynthia Lauper.
You laugh at EDM.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I do not laugh at EDM .
I like EDM, but look, one of myfavorite favorite songs of all
time is, as Days Go by, by,dirty Vegas.
Remember that one.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, dirty Vegas.
Yeah, so you are a.
How can?
I put it hey, hey, fair weatheras Mark Smith would call it, a
fair weather fan.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
That is not true.
That is absolutely not true.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
What was that like 1994?
I just love that song.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Are you starting already?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I'm starting like I just told Jack right before this
, I literally fucking left Miami.
I had a conference down thereand I left Miami at 4 o'clock
and I got in my fucking door at6.45.
That's fuck.
It takes me three and a halfhours to get to St Augustine,

(05:12):
Two and a half hours to come upfrom miami.
It's 51 miles, you know I alsothe orange bowl is tonight, so I
hit that truck.
It's still fuck, miami anyway Ifeel better.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
how many you know you're?
You're a guy that's retired.
Yeah, how often do you have todeal with commuting and traffic?
I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
But when I do, I do it big.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yes, you do.
Evidently you haven't livedthere in decades and you
complain about the trafficcoming in and out of Winthrop.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Well, that is a fucking problem.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, but it's not a problem for you look at
see steven romano stirring it up.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Because we're on your side, jack.
In other words, we are, inother words, he, he even know
he's, he's backing you.
That you don't like, edm that'snot true.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I I do not dislike edm, I do not.
I dislike ed.
That's no good for anybody.
How fucking old are you?
How old are?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
you really.
It was a joke, jesus, all rightlet me uh, here we go, there we
go.
So how you doing, how's itgoing this week?
Good, good, good, good, good,good, good.
What's the latest and thegreatest?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Hey, you know, just getting the year started.
You know, just paint my ass off.
What are you eating?
What is that?
An Italian sub?
Let me see it.
It's big, it's thick, Is thatonly half of it?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Atta boy.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Public supermarkets makes With the bread.
Look at the bread.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
It's crunchy.
Can you actually get a decentItalian sub down there?
No public.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
They do it right.
Man Pub subs are gone.
Each supermarket has their ownsub shop.
How does it differ man Pub subs?
They're gone.
They Supermoney has their ownsub shop.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
How does it differ, if at all, with the subs that
you get up in New England or, inparticular, in Massachusetts?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, it does.
I mean you get good subs upthere, right.
The thing is down here it'shard to find good.
You know the food that we grewup with, right?
But when you do, you know it,and this roll is crunchy.
It's got the little seeds on it.
You know what I mean.
It has a soft inside, littlecrunchy exterior, and they pack

(07:40):
the meat in there.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Walk me through the ingredients.
What's on that sub All right.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So it's got ham, ham, it's got spicy capicola, it's
got prosciutto.
No, no, it's got the mortadella, it's got provolone, it's got.
I put some tomato, banana,peppers, some pickles, onions.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Are the pickles and onions sliced or diced?
It's like dill pickles, rightthat's no good.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It is, it's good.
No, it's no good and the onionsare sliced.
It's not diced, it's got to bediced?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
No, they don't.
Yeah, they's no good.
And the onions are sliced.
It's not diced, it's got to bediced.
No, they don't.
Yeah, they do no.
I'm so glad that you saved youreating your sandwich for the
air.
That's great.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I told you, I just walked in the fucking door.
I'm starving, fucking theseconferences.
It's at this fucking Braziliansteakhouse where they come
around the radigio, but theconference was fucking running
behind.
I literally got two pieces ofmeat because they got to do it

(08:55):
with everybody.
I'm like what the fuck?
Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm hungry.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
You eat your sub there, little boy.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to.
So we're going to do what wedid last week.
We're going to pick up where weleft off.
I got a lot of good feedbackfrom these lost hits.
You know, and just basically,you know, talking about them a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, before we get into that, I mean, shouldn't we
just kind of like talk aboutwhat's going on in, you know,
the music world right now, or doyou want to stay on your sub?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I'm listening, I'm all in buddy.
You know, I'm all in, and I goticed coffee too.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Nice.
So, hey, a lot of talk and Iknow you're not a huge fan and
we kind of talked about it lastweek, but will you actually go
see the Dylan movie?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
well, that's.
That's an interesting question.
I'm really considering it andwhich is funny, because, number
one, you know I'm not a huge fan.
But number two, I don't dislikeBob Dylan.
I I'm just not a fan.
I respect his body work, Irespect what he did, I'm just

(10:10):
not a fan.
I think he's overrated in themusic department.
He has a lot of great goodsongs with great lyrics and he
has some fucking stupid songstoo.
Wait, wait, wait.
What are his stupid songs?
The King, his number one stupidsong is everybody must get
stoned.
Come on, that's a fucking idiotsong.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Zero intelligence to write that fucking song yeah,
yeah, but I mean you gotta, yougotta consider the time you know
.
So when did he write that 64?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
uh actually 66, but it's fucking a no-brainer song.
It's as intelligent as do youlike pina coladas and walks in
the rain like fucking stupidshit.
And then he goes and writessomething like Tangled Up in
Blue Fucking brilliant,absolutely brilliant that story.

(11:07):
He's good at telling that story, but I actually am considering
going to see that movie.
I haven't shunned it.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
So you refer to Everybody Must Get Stoned.
You do know the actual name ofthat tune, right?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, it's the something song.
What is it?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Rainy Day Woman, 12 and 35.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, which really makes no fucking sense.
But I want to get to thiscomment.
Steven romano just said you'renot going to believe this, scott
.
I hate movies, I hate movies.
I can hear him saying it rightnow.
I always fall asleep.
I went inside.
I thought it was incredible.
I recommend it.
See that.
Fall, fall asleep.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
See, steve Romano knows what.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Don't sleep on him.
He knows his shit about music.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
I know he does, he always has when we first started
this podcast.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
He would call me up.
He'd call me up and he'd saystuff like You're dragging it on
too much, you talk too muchabout it, like he was literally
like producing the fucking show.
This is what you need to do.
Okay, okay, steve, but he knowsthe shit.
He's well, he's a musicologist,he's a neil young, basically

(12:44):
historian.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Freak yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, he knows Neil Young backwards and forwards.
Yeah, neil Young, one of thebest concerts I ever went to and
by far the worst concert I everwent to Explain.
So you know, I've seen him ahandful of times, not as many as
Steve has probably had theopportunity to see him.

(13:07):
But Neil Young is like VanMorrison or even Bob Dylan you
just never fucking know whathe's going to play.
He can go in any direction.
So the first time I saw him heactually played with Crazy Horse
and did all of the great thingsthat you wanted to have him do

(13:29):
Played acoustic, played with theband.
Hey, hey, my, my Needle in theDamage done, you know everything
that you would want to hear.
And then the next time I saw himI actually trekked down to what
was Great Woods in Mansfield,Massachusetts at the time, and
it was when Neil Young was goingthrough that period where he

(13:49):
did the shocking pinks in thereactor, where he was doing the
electronic not electronic dancemusic, mind you.
That's right, and he played onesong that people knew he did
after the gold rush, I think, tojust appease the the crowd, but

(14:09):
the rest of it was all his newtechno and, you know, shocking
pink shite.
It was a terrible, terriblelong like come on, give us a
little something, mix it in,sprinkle it in, will you?
So in will you.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So let me ask you this First of all, dave Phillips
, king of the 45s, welcome tothe show.
So let me ask you that theseartists they know why
three-quarters of the fans arethere.
They know why they're there andthey're there to hear the songs
they want to hear.
Now, morrissey is infamous forthis.

(14:48):
Although he does, it's almost aguarantee.
You're gonna get three Smithsongs you just don't know which
ones in a show, but for the mostpart plays its own shit and a
lot of people go because theythink he's going to be a Smith's
oldies act, which is what heactually said he'll never be.
So what do you think of artistslike that show?

(15:11):
Neil Young, robert Plant, like.
I know somebody that went tosee him and he was with Alison
Cross and didn't do one LedZeppelin song, like not even
mention of it.
So you know why you're going tosee Robert Plant for the most
part.
Maybe you or I look differently, but the majority of the fans
right, see, ooh.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Robert.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Plant.
What do you think of that?
That they go and they justdon't even dip their toes in
what the fans want?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
I think we have empowered a lot of artists to
kind of take advantage of it.
Look, let's use Neil Young asan example.
Totally made up, hypotheticalsituation, right, but you got
Neil Young that's going to goout and he's going to play a
good mix of Buffalo, springfield, csn and Y, his own solo stuff,

(16:08):
uh, the crazy horse stuff andwhatnot.
Hey, you know, go nuts andadvertise it as such.
I think that if you're going togo out and you're going to do
something experimental, to kindof stay within your artistic
vision, um, and that's what itis, you know people blame.
Oh, I'm an artist, right?
I'm not a troubadour, right,I'm not a monkey up on stage

(16:30):
that, you know, takes requests,I'm not a human jukebox.
Well, you know what you kind ofare you kind of are in that
situation.
You kind of are.
You know, especially in thisday and age where you know
they're charging three and fourand 500.
Can you imagine going to seeNeil Young and spending you know

(16:51):
, $300 for a ticket and hedoesn't play anything?
You know, you know this.
This gotta be some balancethere, right.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Pearl Jam coming to the hard rock in Hollywood,
Florida.
Are you going to go?
I looked at tickets For thefucking balcony $700.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
The people at Ticketmaster should be locked up
, and it's not just the peopleat Ticketmaster, right?
Obviously, pearl Jam, to acertain extent, and any other
act, has got to be complicit inall this.
So here's the question that Ihave for you, scott McClain

(17:33):
aside from the fact that hamdoes not belong on an italian
sub spicy ham, you can call itwhatever fucking ham you want
unless it's prosciutto, itdoesn't belong on that fucking
sub.
Okay, I want you to, in frontof all these people, pull the
hand off the ham, off of that,no so what's the request?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
what do you want to know?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
um shit, I forget what I was gonna say jesus, you
need to start drinking.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I'm drinking water.
Steven romano said he saw.
Let me see what was he.
Where is this comment?
It's pretty funny, he said whenyou were talking about the
digital.
Oh, wait a minute, they playedMr Saul digital, I was tripping.

(18:21):
I thought it was because I wastripping.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
That show.
If we're talking, trippingthat's that show, if we're
talking about the same show,that show was horrendously bad
and, in all fairness, that wasback when the ticket was
probably, you know, $22.
But, uh, you know, you know.
Look, look, look at the peoplethat paid to see Madonna last
year.
All right, so you know.
Look look at the people thatpaid to see Madonna last year.

(18:46):
All right, so you know.
First off, you get what'scoming to you, right, but you
know people paying four or five,six, eight hundred, over a
thousand dollars.
And she played snippets of someof her songs, start and stopped.
Some of them went on threehours late and did new
arrangements of it.
People left.
They were fucking bullshit.
You got to remember.

(19:06):
You got to remember that partof the music business is
business.
Right, there's a commerceaspect to it.
People want to be entertained.
They don't give a shit aboutWell, let's put it this way Most
people that are listening tothe podcast right now and most
casual music listeners when wasthe last time they actually

(19:27):
bought a neil young record?
When was the last madonnarecord that that they bought?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
they want to hear the old stuff yeah yeah and she's
not appealing to new crowds so.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So here's, here's the excuse that you actually get
from, uh, you know some of theseartists.
They're they're overcharging orwhat they feel is that they're
appropriately charging forconcert tickets because they
can't make any money writingsongs and selling albums anymore
.
You know, with the digitalplatform, people aren't buying,

(19:58):
you know, albums.
I know vinyl has had a littlebit of a resurgence, but
nobody's buying CDs, cassettesand nobody's buying albums in
large bulk anymore.
Right, so you don't have therevenue coming in.
And you know, if you looked atwhat Donald Fagan from Steely
Dan makes on, every time SteelyDan has played on Spotify, it's

(20:21):
pennies.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, so while you were talking, let me see if this
cuts over.
Are you there?
It's not working.
Here we go.
Are you there, steven, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
What's up?
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Scott yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Can Jack hear me?
He can hear you.
Yeah, I can't hear him.
Can you hear me?
He can hear you?
Yeah, all right, I can't hearhim.
Can you hear me, jack, I canhear you.
He said yes.
Okay, that concert you'rereferring to, neil Young had to
go out on tour and do a showlike that so he could win his
lawsuit against a record companybecause they sued him for not

(21:03):
making neil young music

Speaker 4 (21:05):
so he went.
Yeah, but yeah, but uh, davidgeffen, you know, recruited him,
paid him a shitload of money.
Hold on, just wanted to let youknow that little tip there all
right.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Thanks for the thanks for calling in buddy and it was
the reactor tour.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
It was the craziest thing I was tripping.
Neil young came out wearing awhite suit with the big hockey
pucks.
He looked like Mr Neat.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Did you like that show?
Did you like that show?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
No, it was a great time.
It was a great time.
It was the first year ofGreenwoods.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Dude.
That Neil Young show is likeputting fucking ham on an
Italian sub, like he always doeswhen he plays Greenwood.
It's usually the Dude that NeilYoung show is like putting
fucking ham on an Italian sub.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right, dude, thanks for calling.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
All right.
So what Steven is referring toand he does, he knows his stuff.
David Geffen spent a boatloadof money to recruit a bunch of
big-name artists when he startedGeffen Records and one of those
individuals was Neil Young.
And David Geffen was betting onNeil Young putting out Neil

(22:18):
Young-sounding records andmaking a lot of money.
And Neil Young whether heconsciously did it or whether he
was trying to reinvent himselfor whatever the cave, whatever
the case was he put out a coupleof records that were largely
experimental, uh, that just didnot sell, did not sound like
Neil Young.

(22:38):
People didn't buy them.
It was, they were financialdisasters and David Geffen sold
them.
He sued him.
He was suing him for not makingNeil Young-sounding records.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
That's funny because it's the opposite of Credence
Clearwater Revival.
The representative suing what'shis name?
The old lead singer fromCreedence, john?
Yeah, john Fogarty For soundingtoo much like Creedence

(23:16):
Clearwater Revival.
Yeah, what do you mean?
What the fuck right?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, but look, not for nothing.
And look, stephenven, Iappreciate that little tidbit.
But just because david geffenand neil young are having a
little tiff, it doesn't have.
It doesn't mean I have to sitthrough two hours of fucking
unrecognizable shit oh what elseis?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
going on.
What else is on your?

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Oh, a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
So you know, I wanted to talk alittle bit about, you know, the
Dylan movie.
I do think that you should seeit, although I do recognize that
you know the movies areoversaturated now.
You know it's either Marvel orDC comic movies or, you know

(24:06):
music, biopics.
I mean, you know, run down thelist.
You got the Queen one, you gotthe Amy Winehouse.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Elton John.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah the Elvis, one yeah the Hendrix, one the Elton
John, one yeah the Elton John.
And most of them suck.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I won't go see them because someone asked me why, I
said because I lived it.
I lived it Like we were there.
We know pretty much.
There's nothing that they didin those movies, with the
exception of and I'm assumingthis, with the exception of the

(24:42):
like origin story, like keyparts of it or small parts of an
origin story.
Yeah, but even the what thefuck do I want to know elton
john's background, for anyways,yeah, you know, elton john's got
a compelling story.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Actually that one wasn't half bad.
It was part kind of fantasy andpart kind of you know story,
but it actually showed that hecould be a bit of an asshole
hold on.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
But but even even a piece of ham in my teeth, hold
on.
I'm sure you do doesn't belongon.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
It doesn't belong on an italian sub.
What was that?
What were you drinking?
What was that?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
oh this is.
Mr Brown iced coffee, godalmighty.
Yeah, I like it.
I was drinking those in 1991 inSacramento.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
You can only get them at Asian stores Cans of iced
coffee and Italian subs.
It's really good to know thatyou're taking good care of
yourself, Scott.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
But I've eaten sushi and then followed it up with
chocolate milk.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
We all know the Luther.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Dude, I bought that one time at lunch at Publix
Supermarket, so I getsupermarket sushi but they make
the sushi right in front of youand it's a Japanese guy, so you
know it's real.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's funny, I'm the eye of those guys too.
How do you know?
He's Japanese Chang-chang-ching?
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh my.
God, that's what he sayswhenever I go to order sushi Hi,
can I have a banana roll,chang-chang-ching.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
That's great, I get to go.
Adios everybody.
It's 2025,.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Jack, that's great I gotta go adios, everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's 2025.
Jack, all that shit's gone.
That woke shit is dead.
It's dead.
Nobody fucking cares anymore.
Nobody cares, nobody cares.
That's all I'm saying.
We can joke about it again.
We're free to joke about itagain.
Imagine that freedom.
We can joke about it again.
We're free to joke about itagain.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Imagine that Freedom, Freedom.
Hey, I grew up being called aguinea whop, Dago greaseball.
I loved it.
Nothing wrong with that it mademe who I am today.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's right, that's right.
You and your glowingpersonality, that's me.
Yeah, yeah, that's me, yeah,yeah, it's me.
You know so lost hits lost hits.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh shit, we're already getting into this.
What about the other stuff thatwe were going to talk about?
Well, bring it up, stop talking.
How do you feel about kendricklamar playing the super bowl
halftime show?
Is he worthy?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
kendrick lamar is uh, he, he is a.
He's one of those.
He's a.
The guy sells a lot of fuckingrecords oh yeah, kendrick
lamar's a lot of records he's ahe's a major talent in in his
definitely yeah, he's in the top, like he's in that top echelon

(27:42):
of like four, maybe five peopleat this point right now.
Right now he doesn't get caughtup in any, seems to not get
caught up in any controversies.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I know that we've talked about this in the past.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Him and Drake don't like each other, that's for sure
.
Who likes Drake?
A lot of people like Drake,yeah, but Kendrick Lamar isn't
one of them no, yeah, but youknow, look, rap is having a feud
.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
That that's really a new original idea, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
it's good for business, absolutely.
Is drake really a rapper?
That's the other thing.
That's the question.
Is he really a rapper?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
not you know or is?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
he a pop star.
That, that rap in his songs,that's the knock on Drake.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
I would say the latter.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
He puts out good music.
I like it.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
With Kendrick Lamar in the Super Bowl show, halftime
show coming up.
It always brings up the debateof who put on the best Super
Bowl show and who didn't, andwe've had this conversation
before.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, it won't be him .
No rapper is ever going to puton the best show.
Why?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
How can you say that?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's not designed that way.
They're not.
Rap is not a dynamic show.
Prince puts on a dynamic show.
U2 put on a dynamic show.
Whitney Houston dynamic showshow you two put on a dynamic
show, whitney houston dynamicshow.
Rappers are more of a in yourface show.

(29:11):
You know what I mean.
They can have a big stage butthey as performers are not true
performers.
They walk around and they and Iand I love rap, no, you know
what I'm saying, but live, no,no, I no, no, no no, no, no I.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I don't know what I'm saying, but live, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
I don't know what you're sayingat all.
What you're saying makes nosense to me whatsoever what
you're saying.
You're saying that a rapmusician or a rap star cannot be
dynamic on stage.
The shows aren't dynamic.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
They're not known for having these big Fucking
production shows.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
They're just not known for it.
So when Jay-Z goes out andplays Fenway Park, no dynamic.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's a good show.
I'm not saying it's not, butit's not like a band Like U2.
It's a different vibe.
Like you too, like these, it'sa.
It's a different vibe.
When you go to these shows.
You know who puts on the bestshows of all djs.
You ever see those.
You ever see videos of thesedjs playing over in, like norway
and germany.

(30:19):
That looks like insane.
It looks like crazy fun Dude itdoes, and I love that shit.
I mean they have their fuckingstage for one guy or two guys is
those shows are insane thelight show and the fireworks and

(30:39):
the whole thing.
That would be a better show.
That would be a better show toget like Paul Oakenfold up there
and just like watch it.
But it's not popular music, sothat will never happen that
stuff is hugely popular overseasit's not going to grow in.
America?
That's not true, not for ahalftime show you mean DJ?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
yeah, a DJ, but DJs are routinely.
That's not true.
Not for a halftime show, notfor a halftime show.
Wait, wait, wait.
You mean DJ yeah, a DJ yeah,but DJs are routinely and
regularly selling out the BostonGarden, Madison Square Garden
now.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Like that, has become incredibly, incredibly popular.
So that's good for 20,000people, right?
And then you go to Europe andthey're in stadiums right, but
it's not going to go over on ahalftime show.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I don't know that I can speak to a DJ at a halftime
show one way or the other, but Ithink that you're probably
selling Kendrick Lamar a littlebit short.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
If it's a halftime show, they're going to make it
big.
They're going to make a bigproduction production.
It's not his touring production, it's the production that the
super bowl is going to put on.
They're gonna have this giantstage.
He's not fitting any of that inan arena and kendrick lamar
certainly isn't selling outstadiums.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, no, but he's probably selling out arenas.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
He's selling out arenas yes, that's what I mean
Like their shows, aren't?
They're not.
No, rappers have this hugestage show that they got to
truck up and fucking bring tothe next show and set up, like
you know, all the fucking.
It's good, it's it's, but it'snot great.

(32:29):
There's shows, I'm telling youthat's that's the nature of the
business.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, You're entitled to opinion.
I think it's.
I think it's a blanketstatement that you can't really
back up, but whatever you can'tdisprove me.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I'm not trying to disprove you.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
You are, though I am not.
You're disagreeing with me, andby you do you disagree.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I do disagree with you, you're trying to disprove
my, my point, and I know rapfucking.
I don't wait a minute.
I don't, I don't know how youcan just make the statement that
you know the, the productionand, by the way, go go YouTube,

(33:11):
a rap show like YouTube and oldand old Um.
Oh, wait, wait, wait let mefinish YouTube Like a Wu Tang
clan uh show.
It's chaotic.
It's chaotic.
They're all there's 12 of themand they're all moving around
and they're all singing.
They're all like and they allwalk up to the front.

(33:32):
It's just chaotic.
If you saw that, you saw the,it was groundbreaking.
But the LL Cool J unpluggedright, that wasn't really that
great.
He had a live band and he sanglike four of his songs, five or

(33:52):
whatever the unplugged was.
But it didn't.
It was good because it wasunique.
It was good because it was, itwas a first and it was visually
because of the live orchestra.
But it didn't really fucking goover well with his fan base.
It went over great with whiteAmerica and white MTV, but you

(34:15):
didn't see him fucking doingthat shit ever again.
It wasn't like LL Cool J in theBoston Pops Go on tour together
.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's how the hell are you in?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
the Boston Pops go on tour together.
That sounds hell of you.
Perry Denovich, the AI, saidaren't halftimes usually
lip-synced, they are Well, youtoo wasn't?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
But you too, prince, wasn't Well hold on a second
Perry's asking the questionquestion are the halftime shows
usually lip sync, right?
So I think?
I think perry's question is alittle narrower than it should
be you are.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So you have to fucking break down everything.
You can't take anything as justwhat it is.
You just did that to me.
You now you're doing it to anAI.
This guy will fuck your life up.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
He's an AI.
I'm just trying to answer hisquestion.
And you know and you broughtyou, brought it up you know,
look Perry's right that thereare absolutely some of the half
Hold on the halftime.
Hey, shut up, can you just takeanother bite of your sandwich?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm done with it.
I finished it.
It was really good.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Go on.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I won't interrupt, I won't even breathe.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Here's the sad fact of the matter Not only are a lot
of halftime shows lip synced,but a lot of live concerts are
now lip synced.
But what I meant in terms ofexpanding beyond that is that
there are there's other trickeryand fuckery going on around as
well that you have.
You have artists that may notbe lip syncing, but they're

(36:01):
actually using auto tune live Inaddition to that.
You know just because youbrought them up.
Look, nobody loves you two morethan I do, but those boys play
to a backing track.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
So they may, yes, indeed, be playing live, but
it's not all live.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
So let's get into that.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Let's get into that for a second.
Is it just as bad to have abacking track but live vocals,
or is it bad to be lip syncingto live music?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
No.
But look, you and I come from aday and age where if there was
any manipulation, people gotroasted, crucified over it, but
now it's just routine,acceptable.
I was telling you that earlier.
So to a certain extent.
So we can almost go back to thewhole Neil Young conversation

(36:56):
in terms of what they're playing.
But beyond that, look, ifyou're playing a lot, if you're
paying a lot of money, you wantit to be a good show that sounds
good.
So if they're paying a lot ofmoney, you want it to be a good
show.
That sounds good.
So if they're leveragingtechnology to have a backing
track or a click track or orwhatever you know, some of that
stuff is is forgivable.
Um, you know, if you're payingthree, four, five hundred

(37:18):
dollars and somebody's going outand they're not fucking singing
live at all, I think that'sdisgraceful.
But here's, here's thedifference, scott, you and I and
people like us are the onlyassholes who care, you know I
don't know about that Ithink a buddy of mine dragged me

(37:40):
and deb to to see a countryartist this guy named nico moon,
and I'm looking up on stage.
I did not want to be there.
I'm not a huge country guy, butI and Deb to see a country
artist, this guy named Nico Moon, and I'm looking up on stage.
I did not want to be there, I'mnot a huge country guy, but I
went because he's my buddy and Ilove him and you know we had a
great night just goofing off andhanging out.
But I'm looking up on stage.
They were literally three peopleon the stage and what I heard

(38:04):
was drums, electric guitar,acoustic guitar, pedal steel,
bass, guitar, fiddle, bass,guitar, right, and this, this
guy.
I was watching him and he had,he had the biggest grin and he
was moving around and peoplewere going nuts.
That guy did not sing onefucking word and you know what?

(38:25):
Everybody around me, they didnot give a shit and I, I just
don't, I don't get it, I justdon't get it and then they find
out and they're like, oh well, Ihad a good time anyway.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, you know then?
Then fucking watch it live,watch a concert on your fucking
big screen and turn up the music.
It's the same fucking thing.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, hey, what's the next wave of this shit that's
coming on?
You got, you got people thatare using uh, ai and um, you
know, holograms and and thattype of thing.
Hey, you're going to get to goand see Nirvana play, if you
want, or the Beatles play.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's been in development for a little while
now and AI is just going andthey can never really pull it
off, but AI is going to reallyraise the bar on that Now.
I would enjoy something likethat.
You know why?
Because you know what you'regoing to see.
Yeah, you know exactly whatyou're going to get.
It would be entertainingvisually, audio, audioly.
You know, it'll just be a coolexperience.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Elvis or Roy Orbison or you know, yeah, in some way
it's a great way to keep themusic alive, right, introduce
the music to new generations.
And to your point, yeah, how dowe keep milking?
How do we keep making money?
Uh, you know, you know, from,for me, am I opposed to going
and seeing, uh, you know, an aiversion of john lennon.

(39:55):
You know, it depends.
You know, if it's advertised assuch, it's good production and
it's reasonable write-ups,exactly yeah yeah, but I'm not.
I'm not going to go and spend200 to go and see it.
You know what it's like.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
No, no, I'm not gonna pay, like I'm going to a
concert, exactly.
Um, it's like going to see.
Remember, remember the they,probably, I don't know if they
still do it remember the, uh,the, the site, the museum of
science in boston?
They had Boston, they havetheir.
What do you call it?
The domed.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
The Omni Mugar, omni Theater.
No, it was like yeah.
The Planetarium the.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Planetarium, right, and you would pay to go see
something in there that had likePink Floyd music in the lasers
at the time, right, that werelike really technologically
advanced and the stars goingover, and it was just the whole
experience, right, and they'replaying Pink Floyd music or
whatever.
So it's kind of like that,except you're going to see a

(40:57):
hologram and you know, andyou're going to be like, all
right, that was fucking prettycool.
That's how I would look at it.
That'd be pretty cool, as longas the music's loud and crisp
and the hologram doesn't glitchlike fucking princess leia, is
it?

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I, I, yeah, but for me, I would still much, much
rather go and see a guy or a galwith an acoustic guitar.
Yeah, yeah, well, you know,somebody, somebody, that,
somebody that can actually, youknow, pull it off live.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I agree.
Perry denovich, the ai, saysapparently there's usually a
couple of laptops on stage andbackstage now, which is the norm
, and he's right, and that hasto do with lighting, that has to
do with when I saw the church,uh, in this little venue with
phil kelly here in fortlauderdale and they were, they

(41:53):
had a laptop right on stage likethey were controlling that,
like they were going in anddoing something in there and I
don't know.
They didn't seem to havebacking tracks.
They were pretty much doingwhat they do and I don't know
what it was for, but it wasinteresting to see the laptop

(42:14):
right there, like to the rightof the drums, and he'd go over
and he'd do something in thereand I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Yeah, this whole idea of like cheating in live music.
It's gone, it's out the window.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I agree.
I agree, I don't think I thinkpeople like us care.
Like Dave Phillips said, hecares.
But the average fan.
They see Taylor Swift and ifshe lip syncs a few songs.
Madonna was notorious for lipsyncing in the 90s.
She actually got caught lipsyncing.

(42:50):
Didn't care, nope, didn't careyou know.
No, no, no one can run aroundlike that.
No one can run around and singthat fucking clear like without
being out of breath yeah, not,not.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Not only did she not care, but but the people that
went to see her didn't careeither.
It didn't affect in a bad wayher ticket sales in any way
shape or form, Millennials,Fucking idiots.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Look at you.
I'm just saying Boomers wouldnever stand for that.
Like we would have beenoutraged.
Millennials are, like it's okayFucking idiots.
I'm starting to gain a littlerespect for Gen Xers by the way,
I'm a Gen Xer, yeah well, genXers and millennials.
So they're starting to like actlike they were the ones that

(43:36):
invented shit.
But they're realizing that asthey get older.
Now they're looking atmillennials and this new
Generation.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
A or whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Gen Z, yeah, and Gen Zs they're looking at them going
you guys suck.
Just like we said to them.
You guys suck right now they'regetting old enough.
Now they're walking in ourshoes watching these
motherfuckers try to ruineverything that they had growing
up right, that we gave them asboomers, you know, mean we

(44:05):
invented the big wheel goingover the fucking ramp that was
built over fucking two trashbarrels Like we invented that
shit.
That was us.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Like, thanks to Evel.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Knievel yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
So I tell people the stories about when we were kids
and they can't even fuckingbelieve it.
You know like yeah, I mean youknow that one of my first jobs
was selling fruit in Haymarket.
I used to take the train bymyself at like 6 o'clock in the
morning Like would you ever letyour 12-year-old kid do that?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
No, I used to take the train into Boston to see my
grandmother by myself and I waslike 11, 12 like you said.
Yeah, I mean at 14 we weregoing into the combat zone which
was like new york's version.
It's, you know, it's the newyork version of 42nd street,
right, and we would just go inthere like fucking, we didn't

(45:01):
give a fuck.
Nope, you know what I mean?
It's crazy, like, and the factthat your parents, our parents,
let us take the train intoBoston, the bus to the train,
right into the city and get offin the subway and walk up the
stairs and go into the city byyourself.
Yeah, like, I fucking love that.

(45:24):
I love that, but not anymore,know why?
Because baby boom, gen Xmothers ruined everything.
Gen X mothers ruined.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Everybody gets a ribbon.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Gen X mothers are the fucking ones.
My parents didn't let me.
They made me and I didn't likeit.
So now it's like know, we'regonna take everything away.
That was good.
Gen x mothers ruined everything.
They ruined fucking americanchildhoods.
But there's still some rebelmothers out there there's a lot
of rebel mothers.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
What kind of a connection do you have with your
own kids?
Do you guys share a lot interms of what you like for music
?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
music isn't really talked about like with me.
Well, they it was.
When we were younger, irene andcolin were, uh, like they, um,
would listen to everything Ilistened to and I used to talk
to them about like rap.
I'd be like this is just music,marilyn manson, they were
listening to marilyn manson.
They were listening to oasis.
They were listening to Oasis.
They were listening toeverything.

(46:25):
And I used to tell them it'sjust music.
Whatever you see on TV, whateveryou hear about Marilyn Manson,
blah, blah, blah, it's justmusic and it's good music and
they love it and they never gotall fucked up over it.
You know what I mean.
Like, my daughter was the onethat basically turned me on to
Korn.
My son was the one thatbasically turned me on to corn.

(46:49):
My son was the one that turnedme on to gorillas.
You know, like, when they firstbroke in corn and Limp Bizkit,
like in all that, like the newmetal movement, my kids got me
into that because they used tobuy the CDs and they, you know,
and I was like and it wasfucking great.
But you know, as they get older, it doesn't really, it's not
really a thing.
Then I was fortunate to haveDavid and Amanda, who I know

(47:11):
David was really like.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I got him into corn and then gorillas and then he
just kind of went off on his ownthing.
My kids, like little kids, grewup loving the Pogues, REM, Tom
Waits.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
And that's what you were playing.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
That's what you were playing.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know plus you know, plus you
know Peter Gabriel and you knowand everything else you know,
chili Peppers.
Why would you subject your kidsto?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Peter Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Because Peter Gabriel is a genius.
It's fucking horrible Dude.
That's an idiotic fucking whywould you say that?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Horrible music.
The best thing that everhappened to Genesis was Peter
Gabriel leaving.
Oh my God, what the fuck werethey doing when he was there?
They weren't doing anything.
He was a fucking.
He looked like a clown when heshaved his head down the middle.
You know, the guy from Prodigymade it look better.
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
So so.
So you think what you know lamblies down on Broadway.
Um, you know all of the otherstuff that they did and I get it
, it's Prague stuff.
It's not, it's not your thing.
But you think it was a lotbetter when he left and Phil
Collins was singing invisibletouch.
Yep, I do, I do.
I.
I didn don't think I ever knewthat you disliked Peter Gabriel

(48:27):
as much as you do.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I don't, I never bought into him.
I mean, sledgehammer was a goodradio song, it was a poppy
catchy song.
Red Rain okay, red Rain's agood song.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
But I was never going to buy it.
What about In your Eyes?
Not a good tune?
Good tune, that's three.
What about like In your Eyes?
Not a good tune.
Good tune, that's three.
What about Salisbury Hill?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Nope what.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Why.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Why it's too fucking.
It just gives me this likeJethro Tull feel, and I don't
like Jethro Tull either.
No, no.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I mean all right you know what?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
what?
Let's just let me put it on andI'll tell you why I don't like
it.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I don't like it, I don't like it at all shut up.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
We had to listen to rap music.
Yeah, it's good, but not greatgreat Shut up Rabbit.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
That was one of the best cartoons ever, with the
fucking Rocky the Gangsta Shutup, rabbit.
Garbage.
What do you mean, garbage?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Shut their tongue.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Climbing up on Salisbury.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Hill.
Yeah, I like Salisbury Steakbetter.
Of course you do, I do See,look at that.
That's the Orlando.
Don't put it on, scott, I'mwith you, it's a garbage song.
It's garbage.
It's Peter Gabriel.
Look, look, you know what PeterGabriel and fucking, fucking,
and what's his name?
From uh, uh, from from sticks,uh, debage.

(50:11):
Um, dennis de young, dennis deyoung, those two should fucking
get together and make a play Ithink that I think play.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
I think that peter gabriel is well beyond dennis de
young, I'm sorry, yeah well,elage Dennis DeYoung, it's all
the fun.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Al DeBage is better, actually, god.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Look at you.
Salisbury steak.
When was the last time you hada Salisbury steak?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Probably in width of high school cafeteria.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Lunch.
You kind of miss it.
You kind of miss it with thatbrown sauce.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
It's fucking hamburger.
It's a burger with brown sauce.
That was the thing.
Nothing will ever be betterthan the pizza burger that they
used to serve.
You were way too young becauseI was in elementary school and
when they first broke we were inthe high school.
When they started supplyingschools with school lunches it
became a big deal and they werethese fucking scalding hot tins.

(51:04):
They were literally likefucking tv dinners and you would
just smell.
On tuesdays it was the pizzaburger.
I don't remember the pizzaburger was covered in fucking
mozzarella cheese.
A burger covered withmozzarella cheese and and sauce,
red sauce, and it was likemolten lava, like it was, but it

(51:25):
smelled so fucking good.
Smelled so good.
Uh, let's get into some losthits here and I'll start off.
This is this is a journey intosound.
What song is that from?
you wouldn't know, it's eric Band Rakim.
Anyway, this song came out in96.

(51:49):
And I don't know.
I think you heard it.
I think you heard it.
It's a lost 90s.
I got a bunch of 90s hits hereBecause 90s was actually let's
see.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Horse meat.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
90s is good music, so who sings this?
Have you heard this one?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
It'll start to pick up Things I haven't said.
Live inside the elements.
The earth and sky are my bestfriends.
Water is the evidence thatwashes me from end to end.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's coming up the hook With my naked eye.
I saw a heart of fallen raincoming down on me With my naked
eye I saw a heart that said itall no, no, I don't know this
tune.
Lucius Jackson, oh yeah, thistune Lucius Jackson, oh yeah,
okay, lucius Jackson, naked Eye,is it Lucius?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
or is it Luscious Jackson?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I always said Lucius, but it's L-U-S-C-I-O-U-S.
Is it Luscious?
I think it's Luscious.
I think they pronounced itLucius, though Either way.
Either way, anyways, anyways,though either way, either,
anyways, anyways.
You know, I, I really I made aconcerted effort to stop saying
anyways and it worked.

(53:14):
So tell deb she was successfulin changing my vocabulary.
Deb is all about to learn.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Deb is all about deprogramming.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Oh, C-Models very active tonight.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thank, you for not recognizing that song.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, you got me, man , I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Okay, what do you got?
Give me a song that I can play.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Let's see.
You know what I'm going tostart with something that is
actually kind of old and I'lltell a little story behind.
This is actually kind of oldand I'll tell a little story.
Uh, behind this.
Let me ask you this, scott whenvan halen first started out and
this was even before they putout their first album they hired
ted templeman of the doobiebrothers producing fame to

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produce the first uh van halenalbum.
And ted templeman and themanagement actually wanted to
get rid of David Lee Roth, likelike before the first album was
even recorded.
Do you remember who theyactually wanted to replace him
with?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I?
I've heard this story before,but I can't think of it off the
top of my head.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
They wanted to replace him with the lead singer
of a band called Montrose.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, uh, uh, uh, sammy, yeah, sammy Hagar.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Sammy Hagar.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I was going to say that too.
Honest to God.
But I was like that's yeah,they wanted to replace him with
Sammy Hagar.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
But Montrose had.
Their probably biggest hit wasa song called Bad Motor Scooter
Great song.
Want me to play it.
I want you to play it and Iwant you to play the beginning,
for one particular reason aswell.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
So are you saying this is a lost hit?
It is a lost hit?
All right, here we go.
Oh shit, If that's not a VanHalen song.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, great song, but but play the play the beginning
just for one second again.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Yeah, it's a great song, but play the beginning
just for one second again.
From the very beginning yeah,all right, you can stop Now.

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Listen to this.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Motley Crue, motley Crue, motley Crue.
That's where I heard that.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
That's where I heard that before, so is that a
tribute to that song or is thata ripoff?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I have to say that's kind of an homage.
Yeah, I wouldn't say that,because the whole song after
that is different.
So that would be more of anhomage, because it's like its
own entity within the song.
It's not relevant to the other.
All right, kickstart my hotmotorcycle thing.
But I'd say it's kind of anhomage.

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Yeah, you never heard SammyHagar complain about it.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
No, no.
I think that Motley Crue werewell aware of the early Montrose
.
They were a monster band Right.
They were actually probablydeserve a lot more credit than
they actually got.
They never really hit theheights.
They were pretty popular backin the day.
But Bad Motor Scooter, greatsong.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
All right, tell me what year this song came out and
it was it was.
It's a lost hit because it waspopular, it was in the charts
what year?

Speaker 4 (57:15):
so this is the nails.
Yep, um, yep.
So it's what?
88 lines about 44 women, yeah,and I would say that this came
out in 1984.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
1986.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
86?
Really Wow.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah, 1986 that came out and it was a hit.
Like that was a popular song.
I hate that whole Talkingthrough a song.
The only song I like whensomebody talks through it
Offhand is Wild Side, that LouReed.
Lou Reed talked througheverything, though he never

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really was much of a singer.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Yeah, it was his style, it was his style.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I'm not knocking him, that was his style, right.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
That's kind of a quirky little tune.
I liked that song and, believeit or not, there are actually a
couple of other songs on thatalbum that that were pretty good
, and the reason I know that isI was working at strawberries
records and tapes on Washingtonstreet and we used to, you know,
have our playlist and we werefeaturing we would.

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The nails was in rotation andthey used to play that song.
I heard that song 30 times aday.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Fucking brutal.
When I worked at a record storeI was like I don't know what
it's called.
It was actually a chain.
It was a chain record store.
They sold DVDs too.
It was a whole thing.
You had to wear a fucking shirtand pants and a tie I forget
the name of the place buteventually the whole thing
folded.
But those fucking playlistswere brutal.

(59:05):
I'll do that at a supermarket,like I'll go in and I'll say to
the cashier you know, young,I'll say how many times have you
heard this song today?
It's usually to a fucking cash.
Yeah, just it was it was.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
It was particularly difficult if it was a shitty
record like well, oh yeah.
But one of the other ones, likeI, I can almost tell you like
five or six albums that withwhen I worked at strawberries
the, the first fat boys albumyeah, pretty good uh, the nails,
uh uh, david bowie, you know,tonight with like blue jean and

(59:46):
never let me down right, not,not a great record.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I like blue jean not not a great record and hurt yeah
, blue jean.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Blue jean was okay, but when you hear for the you
know 12th song, 12, 12 time inthe of the day was just it was
actually crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
All right, I got this .
This is a lost hit.
They weren't.
They were, but they're kind ofin that, Were they one hit
wonders?
They had a second hit, and thisis just in the United States
Group.
Is the Stereo MCs you ever hearof them?
Ever hear of the Stereo MCs youever hear of?

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
them Ever hear of the stereo MCs?
Right, yeah, sure.
By the way, mood Swing theNails.
88 Lines About 44 Women cameout in 1984.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
My shit's in 86.
Alright, I believe you.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I don't know why my stuff cameout, Although I was putting this
list together when I wasdriving.
Well, sitting in traffic, Ishould say I literally was in
standstill traffic.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I just I think I was.
I think I was living on CapeCod in 86.
So I wasn't working atstrawberries anymore.
I had long since been fired bythen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So this group, stereo MCs, came out with this song.
It's a big, big club song too.
Yeah, club song too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Yeah, I remember this tune, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Right, this is a big club song, at least in
Sacramento, that's where I was.
So this came out in 1992.
What were you doing in 92?

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I was living in Somerville with Deb.
I might have been in Winthropby that point, depending upon
what time in 1992, I might haveactually been living with Deb in
Winthrop.
Okay, on the verge of having afirst child.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Okay, fun times, fun times.
Oh yeah, give me another lasthit from your list.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
So not only I think that this is a lost hit hit, but
I think that this is kind of aone hit wonder.
Um, you know, I I have thissong on a couple of mixes in
spotify.
Um, I, for whatever reason, Ijust love this, this, this tune,
but the song is no myth byMichael Penn, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Michael Penn.
I like it.
I like this song too.
Good pluck, yeah, yeah.
What year?
I'd say it was late 90s, early90s, no 80s.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Really, I think it's the 80s.
Look it up 89.
89.
Right, yeah, 89.
It's actually later than Ithought, than I thought it was.

(01:03:05):
Uh, I don't know what it is,but for whatever reason, I love
that song.
By the way, michael penn,michael penn, uh married a you
know boston music hero.
Oh, he married uh, uh, didn'the marry?

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
he was he married to amy man.
Yeah, amy Mann.
Yeah, till Tuesday From tillTuesday yep, I put Michael Penn
in there with Julian Lennon.
They had good.
They had like those two.
Each one of them had like Velothad like two good, three good
songs.
Maybe Michael Penn was the same.
He has another hit too.

(01:03:36):
There was another song thatcame off his debut album, if I
remember correctly, and it was.
It was a pretty good song, likeit wasn't bad.
I just remember that it wasn'tlike oh, this is fucking
horrible yeah, his stuff is okay, it's okay that like that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
That's that song.
That was his high watermark.
I remember he played the WBCNRiver Rave at the Boston Gardens
and I was with Burt Klein fromWinthrop and I had a couple in
me and I was talking to MichaelPenn and I just made a complete
asshole of myself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
I can't even tell you what I said, but I remember
walking by know, walking bygoing.
Jesus Christ get your shittogether with your man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
He forgot about you as soon as you walked away.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
No, he didn't give a shit.
And you know what, like I was,he was mid sentence and I
actually turned away from himbecause Dave and Ray Davies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Well, there you go.
There's a reason.
Yeah, all right, this song,what's that?
Dave and Ray Davies.
Well, there you go.
There's a reason.
Alright, this song, what's that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Bye, bye.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Michael Penn Alright, this song.
Tell me if you know who singsit.
You know who sings it Never,never, never never ending.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I just thought, think about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Letters to Cleo.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Yeah, I like this song too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
It's a good song.
It came out in 1997.
But it's one of those songs youdon't hear on the radio too
much, you don't even on seriouslike I listen to the 90s.
I jump around, you know.
But um boston band yeah, yeah,yeah.
The song is here and Now.
By Letters to Cleo.

(01:05:37):
Yeah, give me another lost, hitoff your list.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
I will actually pick.
I think that this is a lost hit.
Another band from the 80s thatnever really took off.
They had some notoriety, theyhad some level of success.
You know, success, uh, let theday begin by the call the call.
Wow, I know this song yeah thisis a great tune yeah, yeah,

(01:06:16):
yeah the call.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Wow, never really did much after this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
They had this, they have had, I still believe, yeah,
and they had, you know, theirfirst hit when the walls came
down.
Yeah, when the walls came down,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Jump ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
What year, oh God, that's got to be 86, I guess, oh
, check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
The Call Wow how about that I love doing these
shows.
I love this whole rabbit hole,because you really do discover
all this shit.
Really, these were hits at thetime, meaning they were in the
top 40, maybe the top 70.

(01:07:16):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Gate Hold on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
what was that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
someone's coming through my gate.
I don't know who it is, I justlet anybody in.
I don't even ask, not good,yeah, these really were.
These were on the radio, theywere in rotation, these songs
yeah, radio mtv videos.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
You know the whole deal.
I got one for you next.
All right, hit me, hit me no,you forgot about this song.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
You forgot about this song.
I'm telling you, um, this onecame out in.
I'm gonna tell you, it came outin 82.
So I'm going to test you onthis.
You're going to know exactlywho it is right away.
There we go, but I know youforgot about it.
You know it yet.

(01:08:13):
No, very unique sound.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
You've heard the song , though, right.
It sounds familiar to me,although it sounds completely
cheesy, like it's in a drivingscene in the movie Footloose.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
This is like the fourth hit off this album.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
This is Missing Persons.
That's who I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Yep yep, that sound?
I mean their sound.
Is they niched out their soundsound?
I mean their sound is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
They niched out their sound Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
This is like the fourth best song on that Spring
Session M album.
The hook's coming up.
That's the hook of the song.
It had a video.

(01:09:23):
It was played on the radio.
So Can you not tell me you haveto agree with me on this.
This album cover Is almost theabsolute Epitome.
If there was a definition ofthe 80s, right, this could

(01:09:46):
possibly be the picture that youwould see the cover of Spring
Session M.
It's a beautiful cover, butjust all the colors, the hair,
the fucking blue line throughthe eyes, the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
You were talking about Letters to Cleo right Dale
Bozio.
No she's not in Letters to Cleo, no, but she was a local girl.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, she was from Medford, medford, massachusetts,
her and her husband Terryford,her and her, uh, and her husband
Terry Bozio.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
She well, I don't know if Terry was, oh I thought
they met.
So.
So Dale Bozio was in Medford,Massachusetts.
She ended up going uh, shestudied drama at Emerson, went
out to California to be like anactress.
She actually ended up at theplayboy mansion for a little
while.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
And then ended up um with uh with Frank Zappa.
That's how she met Terry Bozio.
So, by the way.
By the way you know, we wentwhen she was at the height of
her fame if you want to call itthe height of her fame like
right around 85,.
She posed naked in Hustlermagazine.
She had a killer body.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Oh my God.
So the story goes that she's outin LA and her sister was there
and something happened to hersister whether she got in an
accident or something and hersister was pretty banged up and
they were in staying in a, in ahotel a holiday inn, as a matter
of fact, I believe it was andso she's in the lobby.

(01:11:28):
She goes out to the lobby to getsomething and she sees these
three guys and she doesn't thinkmuch of it, but they kind of
approach her and they startfollowing her up to her room and
she runs in the room, closesthe door, calls security, hotel
security.
She said next thing you knowthere's a knock at the door and

(01:11:49):
she looks through the peepholeand it's a security guard and
the guy she opens it up and hecomes in and her sister's on the
bed comes in and you know hersister's on the bed and the guy
says all you need to do is shutup and do as you're told and you
won't die, basically, and hegrabs her, throws her up against

(01:12:10):
wall, grabs her by the hairright and she breaks away
somehow and she runs over to thewindow and the guy comes at her
and her sister starts to kindof interfere.
She's all banged up.
She climbs out the window,she's on the ledge of the

(01:12:32):
fucking Holiday Inn on thefourth floor.
The guy reaches out and grabsher and she says she just let go
.
And she just the guy let her go.
And she falls four floors, hits, hits the top of the holiday
inside.
You know that arrow, sure right, hits that fucking falls down,

(01:12:56):
hits the ground.
She.
She broke both her elbows, herfloating rib.
She fucking almost died.
Like she was fucked up, right.
She wakes up like two weekslater in Frank Zappa's living
room.
Frank Zappa had paid to get youknow the hospital.

(01:13:21):
She's like bring her to myhouse.
They set her up in his livingroom and she said I woke up and
like I hear a harp, a harpplaying.
And she's like did I die?
And it was Moon Zappa playingthe harp because she said that

(01:13:42):
will help her heal.
And she said I was passed out.
I just I dropped out again forlike another fucking week and
they were trying to feed herpasta.
She remembers she goes.
I kept trying to feed me pastabecause you need.
You haven't eaten in two weeks,right, but yeah, that was, was?
That's?
That's where the songdestination unknown came from.

(01:14:04):
It was kind of from that storyyeah, I didn't know that go.
Yeah, she just, she just let goand was like whatever happens,
happens at this point yeah, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
I did not know that story.
What the one story that I doknow about Dale Bozio is?
She lives here in New Hampshire.
Yeah, a couple of years ago shewas arrested for animal cruelty
.
So in 2009, she was convictedof animal cruelty.

(01:14:38):
If that was me, you would becruelty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
So in 2009, she was convicted of animal aminal
aminal animal cruelty afterseveral dead, you would be
fucking jumping in my shit rightnow.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What did you just say?
What did you just say?

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
whoa, I never, I never, I never aminal.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Did you say see, I let you go?

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
no, not you, I never I never claimed that I could
read keep going tell the fuckingstory so it says.
In 2009, she was convicted ofanimal cruelty after several
dead and malnourished cats werefound at her home in ossipee,
new hampshire, while she wastouring with her band.
She claimed that the caretakerthat she had hired to stay at
her house did not arrive.

(01:15:16):
She was sentenced to 30 days injail and 250 hours of community
service, barred from keepingpets, in order to pay $2,700
euthanasian bill.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah, yeah, I saw an interview with her.
I don't know when it was done,it's fairly recent.
I believe she's got like thenicotine stains on her front
teeth.
You know what I mean it's likethe ratty.
She's fucking out there, man,she's out there.

(01:15:49):
She's fucking crazy, yeah, butshe's cool, she's cool crazy,
though you know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
How much of her look did Lady Gaga steal from?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Dale Bozio Fucking everything, Everything.
She stole everything, thatwhole look.
You know.
I mean she is an iconic figurein the 80s, in the music scene
of the 80s, basically because ofher look On that Do you Hear Me
?
Video.
She's wearing that dress withthe Wendy O Williams Remember

(01:16:25):
Wendy O Williams from thePlasmatics Sure?
At least she covered theoutside of her breasts, Del
Bozio did, and her nipple, butit was in the short dress.
Great body, you know, Real,that typical Italian nose like
that Italian.
Look, Italian girl, look youknow most.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Most people don't know that.
You know missing personsactually had a handful of hits.
They did, yeah.
Destination unknown.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
That's what I'm saying Off that album alone,
destination unknown.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
walking in LAA, mental Hopscotch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Yep Walking in LA was Terry Bozio.
She was living in a.
They were living in anapartment complex in LA, the
three of them, and it was theguitar player, I forget his name
.
Warren Cucciarelli, the dudehe's the one that wrote fucking
Duran Duran's what's it called?

(01:17:21):
Ordinary World, Unknown Caller.
Ordinary World.
He wrote Ordinary World.
That dude wrote a lot offucking good songs after Missing
Persons.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
He may have written the music.
I thought Ordinary World wasactually written by Simon Le Bon
, because it was about him maybethe losing, losing his friend.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
He wrote the um, he wrote the music for it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
You might be right, I know I'm right with that.
I'm just looking, I'm just, I'mYou're trying to prove me wrong
.
No, no, I think you're rightGive me another song.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Give me another song.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
All right, all right, I am going to pick Starseed by
Our Lady Peace.
Hey, while you're playing that,I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
What are you going to go?
Get a fucking Italian sub.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Yes, jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Why would he do that?
I'm going to play the song Ilike, Our Lady Peace.
I don't know if this is a losthit, though this might be a song
that he likes, but I don'tthink this is a lost hit.

(01:18:46):
I don't think this had airplay.
He's not here so I can talkabout it Now.
This wasn't a lost.
This isn't a lost.
Now I have to boldly disagreewith him, have to boldly

(01:19:16):
disagree with Jack on this one.
Starseed.
What the fuck, Dude?
This isn't a lost hit.
This isn't a lost hit.
This is just a song off theiralbum.
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
What are you doing, you, there?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Yeah, see, you fucking walked away.
See, with those fucking in-air,fucking air plugs.
Can you hear me now this dude?
He walks out, gets out ofBluetooth range and now he can't
hear anything.
Wait, I can hear it.
I can hear it.
Dude, this isn't a lost hit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Yeah, it was.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I mean, if you were going to have an Our Lady piece,
a lost hit, it wouldn't be thatsong, it would be this song.
Yeah, it would be this one,because this is the one that had
all the play.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Yeah, that's star-seed, will you worry that
you're not liked?
How long till you break?

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Starseed.
But how much can you make Anordinary boy Superman's dead An
ordinary name?
But ordinary is just not goodenough to name.
And now how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Starseed is like the third song that would be played
by them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
It was a single.
It was actually on theArmageddon soundtrack.
It was a single.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
This is the other song that would be before that
one.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Hey, I can pick whatever fucking song I want.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
It's not a lost hit.
It is a lost hit I know ourlady piece.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
This is a good song actually.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Throw away the radio Suitcase keeps you awake.
Hide the telephone.
Telephone, telephone in caseyou realize that someday this is
a lost hit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
That's a good fucking song.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
They had a couple of good songs, but Star Sea was a
hit for them that just nevergets played anymore.
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
What do you mean?
Nope, nope.
I know this group and I knowtheir hits.
And what's not their hits?

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Yeah look, you know this group, I know this group.
I bet you most of the peoplethat are listening don't know
this group.
I know you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
You're just making it up.
You're a.
You would have picked one ofthe other songs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
You're a big jerk just saying you're a big jerk?
No, you're, you're just clumsyyou're just stupid, you're just,
you're a giant, you're a giantstupid head.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
All here we go.
Now let me get to my next one.
Oh, this one dude.
This one was from 1980.
I'm going to see if you knowwho this is.
Oh, I love this fucking song.
No, that's not the one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
No come on, how did I ?
Well, I was doing this while Iwas driving, so I put the one no
come on, how did I?

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Well, I was doing this while I was driving, so I
put the wrong one in.
Shut up you shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
You know who's stupid , you stupid.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Hey, kevin, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
I can still taste the ham from my Italian sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Damn right Ham on an Italian sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Who sings it?
Oh my God, 1980.
This was a hit.
This is a top ten hit.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Is this Our Lady Peace?
No.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
You're going to know as soon as you hear him sing.
You don't know this song.
Oh, I love this fucking song.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
That's Isaac Hayes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Yeah, and I love Isaac Hayes.
Look, I was just listening toIsaac Hayes the other day.
Chef, I'm so glad our days arethrough here.
I was just listening to IsaacHayes the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Chef.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Here's the hook.
Here's the hook.
Oh yeah, this feeling iskilling me All shots.
I would stop for a millionbucks.

(01:24:49):
A million bucks.
See, I can do Isaac.
You can't.
You don't have that voice.
Isaac Hayes 1980.
That's a jam.
That's a jam.
That's a jam.
All right, give me another one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
All right, how about you know, since we mentioned
them earlier?
How about man on the Corner byGenesis?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Yeah, you know what?
I'll go with that.
I'll go with that.
That is one of their lesserplayed hits.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
They never play it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
No, but it was a hit.
It was in the top 40, I believeNow how many songs we thought
were in the top 40, but were insuch heavy MTV MTV rotation.
We just kind of confuse the two, right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Peter Gabriel couldn't have pulled this off he
could probably what youprobably would have refused to
play this exactly because he's afucking asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
He's an asshole.
Yeah, man on the corner.
That's a good song, that's agood song.
Well, that was a good albumthat whole fucking album was
good, yeah, you know, yeah, uh,a couple more, couple more.
This one came out in 1998.
I think you know it.
I I think you probably shouldknow it.

(01:26:21):
It was pretty popular.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Oh yeah, New Radicals Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
My daughter, Irene, hates this fucking song.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Why I don't know, but she hates it Laugh, laugh,
laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh,laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh,
laugh, laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Laugh, it's a good song.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
I love this song.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Yeah, wake up kids.
We love this song.
Yeah, if you can't listen tothis song and think of Winthrop,
on a summer, like in the summer3 am we ran the Miracle Mile,
you know what I mean.
Or when there's just nobodyaround, yeah, this is a great

(01:27:28):
kid's childhood song, like righthere.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
These lyrics, you cannot find the life you feel.
Your dreams are dying.
So do we have to talk about theend of this song?

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's go.
Let's jump to the head, let'sjump to the back.
I love that he fucking dogsthem all because he's right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
You only get what you give right here health
insurance ripoff like fd, so hesays health insurance, a
computer crashing, dining,cloning, while they're

(01:28:24):
multiplying fashion shoots andbeckon hansen courtney loving
maryland manson.
You're all fakes.
Run to your mansions, comearound, we'll kick your ass in
right, they didn't like that sogreg alexander, who hold on yeah

(01:28:57):
, they didn't like that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
He called he's right.
Beck was a fucking sellout assoon as he fucking made it, as
soon as that dude got money hewent right to the right over
into that side from being thatthe cool nerdy dude to the
fashion, you know, fashionista,fucking nerdy dude nah I never
bought into him after that so gGreg Alexander was basically

(01:29:20):
essentially the new radicalsyeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
And he basically said that he threw those lines in
there to see if the media wouldpick up on it and ignore the
social message that is conveyedat the beginning of the song or
the front end of the song.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Right, and they did.
Well, it caught traction.
I remember seeing an interviewwith marilyn manson who fucking
couldn't fight his way out of my, my fucking italian, my former
italian sub tinfoil, saying I'lltell him to meet me.
Blah, blah.
I always love when fuckingrocks I was trying to get tough.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
It's so funny so matt so, but the quote that I saw on
well, I have in front of me inWikipedia.
Marilyn Manson commented thathe was not mad, said that he
kicked my ass.
I just don't want to be used inthe same sentence with Courtney
Love.
I'll crack his skull open if Isee him.
Beck reported that Alexanderpersonally apologized for the

(01:30:19):
line when they met each other bychance in a supermarket,
claiming that it was never meantto be personal.
Alexander collaborated withhansen, whose drummer, zach
hansen, called him a bit of acharacter, but a cool guy and he
was.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
He never really made it after that he was.
Well, they said he was a wildcard.
He was a wild there was.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
There was one other song Off that album Called
Somewhere we Go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
I love that song as much, if not more, than this
song.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
But again, I think he was hard to handle and record
companies Didn't want to dealwith him.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
He was a bit of a character, I think he made this
one record and he left the musicbusiness.
I'll give him credit.
He was a bit of a character, II think he made this one record
and he left the music businesswell, I'll give him credit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
He was wearing the fucking bucket hat before that
whole you know night, early 90sor early 90s, late 80s, you know
uh madchester scene when thebucket hat became like a big
thing, you know to where even uhoasis was wearing.
You know, liam gallagher waswearing him.
The dudes from stone roses thedrummer was wearing the bucket
hatasis was wearing them.
Liam Gallagher was wearing them.
The dudes from the Stone Rosesthe drummer was wearing the
bucket hat.

(01:31:21):
He was wearing that shit too.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Someday We'll Know.
The second single off of thatrecord is one of my favorite
songs.
I love that too.
It's a beautiful song.
Let's play it.
What's the name of it?
It's a beautiful song.
It's called Someday We'll Know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
It's sentimental, but I like, Don't start getting gay
on me now, someday, we'll know.
I said that, so what, we'llknow.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Well, this whole.
You've been just set free,haven't you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
I have it's a new time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Ah, beautiful song 90 miles outside Chicago, can't
stop driving.
I don't know why Day so manyquestions.
I need an answer Two yearslater.
No, it's a good song.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Get to the chorus.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Sunday we'll go.
Can't blow, can't blow thechorus.
It's a nice song.
It's a nice song, I'm notdenying it, I'm just saying it's
a little feminine for you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
You got a nice little song.
It's nice, it's kind of pretty,it's a little romantic.
It's a nice song, can I tellyou.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
All right, you want to talk about quirky songs.
We got two more songs, each twomore songs.
Oh God, For the love of God, Iwant to go to bed.
No, you don't you love this.
You miss this.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Yes, it's my favorite , let's see Again.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
this is a really quirky song.
Here we go.
I don't think you know whosings it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
You don't remember who sings it, but everybody
heard this fucking song, it'scool.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
I've been practicing it in my mind.
Came out in 94.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
There we go.
It's going to pick up, hit it,I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
You ever hear this song before?

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
I don't think I know this tune.
You ever hear this song before?
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
I know this tune.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
It's Lucas, with the Lid Off by Lucas Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
This one got by me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
It's a pretty jazzy song, right?
Yeah yeah, it's a lost hit 94,94.
He never did anything afterthis.
I mean one hit wonders and losthits are basically they can be
the same thing right, yeah, yeah, sure they can, sure they can.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
All right, can I?
Can I ask you a question?
You know you can't.
Can you actually have a, a losthit or a lost song?
Maybe it never gained theprominence that it deserved, but
can a band like Van Halen havea lost hit?
Can a really popular band?

(01:34:52):
So if I were to list a bunch ofVan Halen songs that are lesser
known, do they qualify Like ina simple rhyme or out of love,
again, woman in love I thinkwomen in love is could be
considered.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Because it does.
It's.
That's my probably my favoriteuh van halen song, because you
know van halen 2 is my favoritevan halen album.
Um, and women in love isprobably my favorite song off
that album.
I believe so, but you neverhear it played.
So I think you just answeredyour question.
I think there are songs likethat, and so think about that,

(01:35:31):
right, let me see why.
Here we go.
Why do you never hear this songOn the radio, right?

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Fucking great song.
What doesn't it have?
That's not radio appealing andit just never got pushed.
It never got, you know, but itwas played, but it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
Such a great song.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
It is and it's not David Lee Roth's like out of
control.
David, he's actually reallysinging, you know, he actually
performs Right breaking my heart, girl, you better stop thinking

(01:36:48):
something, right?

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
so I think you just answered your question.
Yeah, hey, while while we'retalking about our van halen boys
, if you find yourself, uh on along trip, get on to audible and
listen to the I guess you'dcall it a memoir by alex van
halen, the brothers book that heput out.
It's it's pretty damn good.
A lot, a lot of like a lot ofuh kind of uh interesting

(01:37:10):
backstories that you may notknow and if you believe him, you
know alex van halen is somewhatof a controversial,
controversial figure, but if youbelieve him, they were
devastated when david lee rothleft the band and alex van halen
kind of considers that the endof the real van halen well it

(01:37:31):
was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
I mean I.
I held strong for years until II then I started to appreciate.
When all the luster died downfrom Van Hagar and a couple
albums in and everything kind ofthe dust settled.
Then I went back and started toappreciate Van Hagar.
But yeah, they watched theirfucking ATM or their money truck

(01:37:56):
back out of their fucking bankinstead of back into their bank.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
I mean they, they did , they did pretty well with sam,
they didn't know that at thetime.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
So that's the thing, right?

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
yeah, I mean I mean they, they, they had a very,
very lucrative and successfulcareer with sammy hagar, but in
terms of like what, what's aged?
Well, like the, the first, whatis not david lee roth?
No, not david lee roth, butthose.
But those original van halenalbums have aged so much better

(01:38:28):
than the van hagar stuff sothere's a decade difference in
there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
I mean, they were led , they were legendary for those
first, for their first three orfour albums, right, I've thought
all their albums all the way upto 1984.
I mean, they were all bigsellers, they were a Van Halen,
they were the epitome of rockand roll at the time, right, so
that shit's never going to geterased.
Just because they feuded, itwasn't erasing anything.

(01:38:58):
Now, when you start the secondgeneration of van halen, they
got new fans, right so they theydid you know?

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
look, there are people there, there are.
There are people out there thatyou know, like the.
You know sammy hagar, stuffbetter.
Um, I don't know wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Is that Scott the engineer?
It is Scott the IT guy.
Scott the IT guy what he says.
Hey, peaky Blinder.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
I have a project.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
I have a projector for you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
All right, thanks, scott.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
That's a reference to Jack wearing the Irish hat,
although it's actually culturalappropriation because Italians
shouldn't wear those hats.
But you know who?

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
who says I'm 100 italian?
I'm a mutt just like you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
No, no, no no, yeah, you're, you're fucking 100 dago
guinea, yeah, guinea warm we'refree, jack, we can do this now.
Hey, lookit 166 episodes in andI haven't been canceled yet and
we're over 30,000 downloads, soI'm not worried at this point.

(01:40:08):
Our fans are our fans.
All right, I want to do onemore song each, and then I want
to get a memory from you.
I have a couple songs for you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Oh, I didn't do the memory thing.
That's right pick any song.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
This now this group right here.
You heard this song.
They never bounced back inthere and I'm going to tell you
the incident that happened.
Um, but this song came out in.
Uh, let me see when did thiscome out?
Uh, I forget, it was early2000s, I believe.
But Let me see when did thiscome out?
I forget, it was early 2000s, Ibelieve.

(01:40:48):
But there we go, and it's acouple samples here.
Know it?

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
yet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
That's a common hip-hop beat right there.
Pump up the volume.
Pump up the volume.
Spandau Ballet.
Actually, the lead singer fromSpandau Ballet was in the video.
Do you know who it is?

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Is it PM Dawn, pm Dawn.
That's funny because I have onmy list PM Dawn.
I Die Without you.
I Die Without you.
Yeah, I love.
That is a beautiful song.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Yeah, they were good.
They were like psychedelic kindof hip hop Well, not hip hop,
psychedelic pop rap.
They were very unique.
They didn't last very long, didthey?
No, I'll tell you what.
They did a show with BoogieDown Production, krs, krs1, and
it was a hip-hop show and, likeI said, hip-hop shows are

(01:42:06):
different kind of shows.
And, uh, they went out on stageand they fucking got blasted.
And then, to add insult toinjury, krs1 came out on stage
and just started fucking.
Like when they left the stage,he shredded them.
Like who the fuck are they?
Like what the fuck?
And they never really recoveredfrom that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
Like they just too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Yeah, yeah, and they were.
These dudes are brothers.
They were like fucking mellow,they didn't need, they had no
beef.
You know what I mean.
We're not looking yeah, theyhad they had their own thing.
Man, we just want to do a show,but no, you can't.
But you got to know youraudience.
That's, that's a big, you mean.
You mean like your audience.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
You mean like when the rolling stones prints prints
out there oh, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Scott, the it guy speaking cultural appropriation.
House of patriot.
Yeah, I'm fucking ir.
I'm Irish.
Irish Want to see the bigfucking Irish pride tattoo on my
leg.
I'm Irish, don't start trouble.
Look at this dude.
He picked up right where heleft off fucking two years ago,

(01:43:16):
two years ago.
Picks right up where he leftoff.
Yeah, yeah, I'm Irish.
House of paint, irish Right twoyears ago takes right up where
he left off.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm irish house of pain, irish right, oh
man, so I'm just looking at youknow, pm dawn, so it was by the
brothers.
Yeah, uh, atrel cordes, knownby his name, prince b.
Yeah, he actually died.
Yeah, he died in 2016.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Yeah, the fat guy, the fat one.
There was a fat one and askinny one, that's all you can
separate them.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
What a great guy you are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I'm just I can tell you what do you want me to say?
The guy that should have takenOzempic.
What do you want me to call him?
Yeah, the guy that should havetaken Ozempic.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
What do you want me to call him?
Yeah, the fat guy, he died.
Yeah, he deserved to die, fatty.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Just like Fat Luther and Skinny Luther.
That's how you define Luther'scareer.
Oh, is it Fat Luther or is itSkinny Luther?
That's how you define theLuther Vandross career.
Am I wrong here?
No, I'm not.

(01:44:25):
That's why the sandwich theluther was created.
So why do you?
Why'd you call it?
I said because this is asandwich that luther vandross
would have eaten fat luthervandross, not skinny luther
vandross I just, I just find itfunny.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
like I you know, we talked about about them being
kind of like a beautiful mellowband and I didn't know that he
was dead until I looked at it.
I was like, oh, that's too bad.
And you're like, oh yeah, thefat one.
Of course he died.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
That's how you differentiate them.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Of course he died.
What do you think the skinnyone?
Skinny one's going to liveuntil he's 105.
He's still alive.
He's still alive.
Oh yeah, fat one.
There's that, by the way.
By the way, luther andrews fat,he's dead.
He died, skinny, but he died.
Leslie west, big big rock star,right mountain died dead.

(01:45:13):
Meatloaf dead dead, dead.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Yeah, you want to name all the fucking faggot.
Roy Clark dead, mama Cass DeadHam sandwich.
No, she did not.
I knew you.
I could have fucking bet myfucking pension on that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
She did not die from choking on a ham sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Someday you'll say the word pension, but not now.
You're still on paycheck.
See, there's a difference.
Not yet how many more yearsyou're still on paycheck.
See, there's a difference.
There's a difference, not yethow many more years.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
You're going to be 60 .

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
You're going to be 60 .
I'm going to be 60 in like alittle bit more than a month.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
You got to fucking stop.
Stop.
You got to fucking.
Don't go to like everybody else.
I know we're not going to talkabout your personal.
I don't want to be fat.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
I don't want to be fat and dead, you want to be fat
, jack.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Fat and dead, that's how you'll be defined.
Oh yeah, jack's that way.
He died.
Fat Jack, right, not the skinnyJack.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
Oh yeah, jack, let me do his eulogy.
He was fat.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
This motherfucker, Scott the IT guy.
I thought you were Canadian.
What the fuck?
Are you out of your fuckingmind?
Do I look like a passive betamale to you?
Because all Canadians are betamales?

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
When you say beta males, are these like Pathetic
people that spend most of?
Their time Online Soft menspending most of their time In a
basement.
Online Just worshipping Comicbook characters, video games and
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
No, no, there's another name for them, but those
are incels.
You're talking about incelscomic book characters and video
games and stuff like that.
No, no, there's another namefor them, but these, those are
incels.
You're talking about incels.

Speaker 4 (01:47:06):
Incels.
Yeah, hey, can you do?
Can you do me a favor and lookbehind you?

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Yeah, fucking Iron man is the shit.
You know why you don't have oneIron man light up.
Turn on, there you go, see that, see light up turn on there you
go see that see.
Wow, you're right that's amazing, yeah, yeah, you wish you had
one.
I do, I do, and a hulk, alife-size hulk and life-size
spider-man.

(01:47:31):
If I had more room, like I know, I got a big house as it is,
but if it was bigger I'd havethe thing, or I'd have more than
just what I have.
Yeah, yeah, and my wife lovesthem too.
I'm sure she does.
That's really what matters.
All right, I'm gonna ask youfor a memory from this song.

(01:47:51):
All right, all right, get yourshit together.
Are you ready?
We're moving to a new segment.
What memory comes up when I saythe Hooters and we danced.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Live Aid.
They were one of the firstbands that played.
They weren't the first band,but they were on pretty early in
the bill and I remember themplaying in Philadelphia.
It was fucking hot as hell.
You know 90, 100,000 people inthere.

(01:48:30):
I remember.
That's what I remember aboutthe Hooters.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
The Hooters reminds me of college, reminds me of
college.
Just that's when it was.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
I mean, yeah, partying, and you know so so you
, you probably, you probablyhave a hundred memories related
to this song.
But what, what?
What memory jumps up in frontwhen I say stairway to heaven?

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Oh, the fucking junior high.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
Yeah, being up in the bleachers with all your buddies
.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Dance.
Yeah, and every time I hear asong from Led Zeppelin's first
album.
Ricky Carlingon's Living Room.
Ricky Carlingon's living roomRicky Carlingon's living room we
fucking wore the grooves out ofthat fucking album in his
living room, smoking weed,drinking beers on a Wednesday

(01:49:32):
afternoon during the school year.
What were we thinking?
You know?
Today, it's fucking ketamineand Xanax.
It's fucking kids.
All right, phil Collins, takeme home.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
I remember I had the cassette single for that in my
1981 LeBaron Ah Driving backfrom working at Blanchard's
Liquors.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
As we spoke of last week.
Yeah, nice, nice, it reminds meof New Jersey.
I went to me and this me andthis girl that I went to school
with went to visit anotherfriend of ours that went to
school because, well, thecollege I went to was 90% girls,
so I hung out with basicallyall girls, which wasn't a
problem for me, and we drove toNew Jersey.

(01:50:32):
I think she lived in CherryHill, new Jersey, and she was a
huge Trish Stone.
She was a huge Phil Collins fan.
Huge Phil Collins fan, phil.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
Collins was huge.
I mean, can you imagine PhilCollins, his solo career?
He's not in the Rock and RollHall of Fame for his individual
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Well, you weren't on the show at the time, but I know
that me, mark and Lou talkedabout that.
How is he not in the Rock andRoll Hall of?

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Fame.
It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Yeah, but Sheryl Crow is my God.
Here we go again that.
How is it not in the rock androll hall of fame?
It's just crazy.
Yeah, but but cheryl crow is mygod, here we go again.
Well, I, I'm not.
I will use these fucking womenas carly simon jump off point
carly simon.
Carly simon, who has like 18albums and 12 of them greatest
hits, albums in differentvariations, right, yeah, come on

(01:51:23):
, you know yeah, hey all right,motley crew looks that kill ah,
so that was, that was early.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Uh, I think the thing that that that song reminds me
of was um second time I saw ozzyos.
Motley Crue was the opening act, okay, and that was the song I
knew right, but before you knewthat song, that's the memory
that comes up.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Does it remind you of any particular person, party
place, like I can say?
It reminds me of Charlie Horseit reminds me of my basement.
That song reminds me of theCharlie horse on the Linway,
yeah, which was a pool.
It was basically a pool hall, abar.
It was a big one, it was a nicepool, well lit.

(01:52:14):
It was a really cool place todrink during the week when you
weren't working because youdidn't have a job.
Well, I'd go over there withMarty Surratt and my brother and
we would just shoot people anddrink beers.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
Oh my God, marty Surratt.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Fucking 75 cents a beer or something it was.
It was like 8 o'clock on afucking Tuesday.
We're trashed, yeah, because wedidn't have to get up for work
the next day, because, well, Ididn't have a job.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Yeah, All right, Rap is delight.
You know what you just said itthe Linway.
I remember my father used todrop us off for the afternoon.
They, you know when disco waskind of like the big thing.
You know, New York had studio54.
The Linway had studio four.
Yeah, and we used to, we usedto, and they always used to play

(01:53:06):
that and I I also remember thatthat was another one that was
played a lot at the, the juniorhigh dances.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Yeah, that reminds me of the original fun house with
Joe Mack.
Marty, they used to have theseparties and you know like
fucking it was just crazy, marty, they used to have these
parties and you know likefucking it was just crazy, and
everything would be Led Zeppelin, rolling Stones, fucking Korean
.
And then this song came on onenight Someone had to fucking
because it was a full LP, rightlong play, and the place, it

(01:53:34):
just fucking changed everything.
You watched all these whitekids literally fucking just go
damn.
And everybody loved it.
Like no, even the metal headsare there.
Like you got to love this song,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
It was so fucking unique.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
mean.

Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
I mean it was, it was infectious.
You know what I mean.
That that's.
It's just great too.
All right, one more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
I'll give me a song.
Do you have a song for me?
Anything?
What about Smells Like TeenSpirit Smells.

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
Like Teen.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Spirit.
I was at the first time Iremember seeing it or hearing it
.
I was in Sacramento.
I was stationed at Maitre AirForce Base I was still drinking
at the time, I believe and therewas this bar called Black Angus
.
It was a restaurant, but at 8o'clock it turned into a club,

(01:54:22):
like a bar, like a.
They would clear the tables outand everything and it came on
and yeah, that song.
Everybody just went nuts.
It was like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Like the place went nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Yeah, that and Enter Sandman.
It's the same place, samememory, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Very cool man?
Now I think yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
All right, one more, one more and we'll wrap it up.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Cool man now, I think , yeah, all right, one more, one
more and we'll wrap it up.
Billy idol, sweet 16.
Oh I, you know what that,believe it or not.
That reminds me of being on thecape drinking too much of
Puffer Bellies.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Oh Jesus, puffer Bellies.
Yeah, people have no idea.
No, no idea.
That reminds me of basictraining.
Reminds me of basic training,yeah, 1987.
Because it came out in 86, Ibelieve it came out in 86, yeah,
yeah, yeah.

(01:55:21):
But it just reminds me of basictraining because we would go
over to the Skylock, which waslike a recreational place.
If you were old enough and youwere off restriction, you could
drink there too, and they alwayshad a big jukebox with big
speakers.
That song just comes to mind,that and Don't dream it's over,

(01:55:44):
just reminded us training yeah,yeah, all right, buddy.
Well, we wrapped up another one.
Good job, fun two hours.
It goes by fast, right?

Speaker 4 (01:55:55):
it's the slowest part of my evening.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I'm fucking dying to go to bed, but you'll be back
next week.
Motherfucker, you're in it now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
You can't do that to your fans, to my fan.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
You can't do that to your fans, to my fan.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
You can't do that, we'll talk, we'll talk.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
You know, what I can do is, instead of doing the show
, I can just call steve romanodirect and just get ribbed by
him on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
Yeah, just that's all throw it all at me.
I don't have to do the showanymore anyway.
Anyway, well, listen jack, youknow.
Anyways, no right, right, Iwould see I, I said it right,
you're a good boy, she, shechanged me.
See if she had an effect on me,that's right.
Uh, well again, buddy, thankyou for coming on, uh my

(01:56:51):
pleasure.
It's always fun, it's uh.
We and again, we don't rehearseany of this, this is all just a
friendship, a friendship of youknow, 40, 40 years.
You think?

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
45, maybe 45 years, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
hey, you know, we just found another outlet to
bullshit with one another yeah,yeah, and you took a long, long
vacation, so now you're gonnabring it back yeah, I wouldn't
call it a fucking vacation allright, anyway, I'll let you go
jack everybody.
Thank you for watching.
Thanks for your listening.
If you like it, share it.
If you didn't, well, thanks forwatching and listening for an

(01:57:28):
hour and 57 minutes.
Hey, what happened to this dayin music?

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
I know no I didn't do it what happened to this day in
music because I want to get youthe fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
That's why I sacrifice.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
A staple of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
January 9th, don McLean took a shit.
There we go Right to the end.
See, he complains but he keepszinging, doesn't he?
All right, everybody, as Ialways say, doing this show for
you, to quote my favorite artist, marcy, the pleasure, the
privilege is mine, and well, Iknow I'll be back next week,

(01:58:04):
jack better fucking be back.
I say good night jack, goodnight jack, I knew it.
That's so stupid.
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