June 12, 2025 • 56 mins
Scott returns to the podcast after taking time off following his brother's death, reconnecting with Jack to discuss music, streaming services, and political commentary from aging rock stars.
• Scott opens up about his brother's passing and how much his brother loved the podcast
• Discussion of the Deftones and their status as an underrated band despite their long career
• Debate about streaming services vs. cable TV and how consumers now have the à la carte options they always wanted but still complain
• Strong disagreement about musicians like Bruce Springsteen and Bono making political statements overseas
• Shared hatred for drum solos at concerts, except when Blue Öyster Cult's drummer wore a Godzilla head
• Concert ticket price nostalgia, remembering shows that cost under $20 in the 1970s and 80s
• Celebrity net worth deep dive, including Bono's Facebook investment making him almost a billionaire
• Breaking news about Heart's vintage instruments being stolen in Atlantic City
• Excitement about upcoming concerts from Jessica Lee Mayfield and Lola Young
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Scott (00:14):
yeah, well, here we are, episode 176.
I am back six.
I am back.
Yeah, after a hiatus, I'm back.
(00:35):
New camera, new mic stand, neweverything and I am fucking
ready to go.
It's been too long.
You can't keep a good man downOn this episode.
Jack's back.
Let's see if his audio works.
(01:03):
New intro song by Pigs, pigs,pigs, pigs, pigs, Pigs, pigs and
the name of the song is GNT.
Go download it.
This is the fucking just playloud music.
(01:25):
This is just the fucking bloodpumping music.
I'm excited to be back.
Jackie boy, hey, can you hearme?
Yeah, I can hear you, but it'syour.
Here we go.
It's your.
(01:50):
It's your laptop mic.
No, well, talk closer to yourmicrophone.
Hello, well, tap it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Why are you all red?
Did you get beat up?
No, it's hot here, fucking hot.
What are you going to sunburn?
Jack (02:10):
I'm just blushing, I'm shy .
Scott (02:14):
Welcome back, buddy.
Jack (02:16):
Thank you.
Hold on a second.
Let me see if I pull the micjust a little bit closer, if
that helps.
How's that?
Scott (02:23):
It's better.
I appreciate the effort.
Jack (02:27):
I'm here for you.
Scott (02:28):
Well.
Jack (02:33):
Hello, hello, hello.
Scott (02:35):
What's going on oh?
Jack (02:41):
a little less.
What's that?
How's it going to go tonight?
How's it going to go?
You're going to be Donald J andI'm going to be Elon.
Scott (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have a small falling out.
We're still friends, we canargue, we can disagree.
Did you get you really gotsunburned?
Jack (02:59):
No, I didn't, you did.
Scott (03:03):
I got this new high def camera.
I can see everything, Jack.
Jack (03:07):
I haven't really been out in the sun.
There hasn't been a sun herefor a little bit, just a black
hole sun.
Scott (03:13):
Just a black hole sun.
Hey, you like my tattoo.
Jack (03:16):
I like it a lot.
I think it looks great.
Scott (03:18):
Right, right right.
Jack (03:20):
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be.
Scott (03:22):
No, I only go big buddy.
Jack (03:24):
I think it looks great.
Thank you, I think it looksgreat, quite a testament to you,
bro.
Scott (03:31):
Oh, Mark Smith, Little Marky Smith.
He said yo, Jack, you didn'tsay hi to me, though.
What the fuck?
What the?
We've been off for like twomonths, and this is what I get.
The first comment is Mark Smith, the music relish legend and he
says hi to you, as he should.
(03:51):
What?
No, he shouldn't the fuck.
Hold on.
Jack (03:59):
Mark, I hope all is well, my friend.
Scott (04:02):
Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Jack (04:05):
I'm still waiting for your kid to get me an Oasis ticket,
since my friend Scott welched ona bet.
Scott (04:14):
Just call me Grape Jelly.
Buddy, Just call me Grape Jelly.
Jack (04:18):
You are.
That's your new nickname ConkyGrape.
Scott (04:23):
Well, let's get caught up a little bit Again.
I don't want this to be abroadcast, but we've been off
for a little while because, well, my brother one of the I call
them co-producing it drove himcrazy.
He passed away.
He passed away and it reallyaffected me because he was, you
(04:47):
know, he meant everything to meand he loved this podcast.
He absolutely loved thispodcast.
Jack not so much, but you can'tsay anything.
Jack (05:02):
Yeah, I can no.
We all know that he loved itmost.
When did it?
When did he love it most?
Scott (05:10):
when you were on that's right I know only because he
liked when I yelled at you, likeeverybody does.
Well, I think they like itbetter when you bust my balls.
So I kind of took some time offand I have a couple of
nonprofits veteran nonprofitsthat I've really been focusing
(05:31):
on and those are moving alongvery well.
And so I called Jack, I senthim a text because he never
answers my calls and I said hey,that is such bullshit.
Jack (05:44):
Oh, no Are you just living in this total world of
disinformation.
Scott (05:48):
Nope.
Jack (05:49):
I always pick up your calls, always, always.
Scott (05:54):
Dude, I've been on this.
I have been on this, as youknow, recently I have been on
this Fucking Deftones kick again.
Jack (06:05):
They're amazing.
Hello, Dave Phillips.
Scott (06:11):
Dean Ferrin rocking.
Dave Phillips king of the 45s,right?
Yeah, I've been on thisDeftones kick lately, man, like
I used to listen to them all thetime and then you know, you
kind of fall and then you justrediscover again and you're like
(06:31):
, ah, like just so fucking.
As I said to the text to youthe other day, um, overlooked,
you know one of those underratedbands.
They've been around for fuckinglike almost 30 years, 25 years.
Jack (06:49):
I don't know how underrated they are.
I mean, they just swung throughBoston and they were headlined
in the garden.
Scott (06:55):
Yeah, they headlined down here and the tickets were
expensive, so you're right.
Jack (06:59):
Yeah.
Scott (06:59):
You're right.
Jack (07:01):
Of course I'm right.
Scott (07:02):
They're just not really.
They're a band.
That's never.
They're not a mainstay.
You don't hear them on theradio, whatever radio there is
to listen to now.
Does anybody listen toCelestial Radio anymore, other
than like Sports, talk shows andstuff like that?
I don't, no.
So what you have is the deathof Celestial Radio, now to a
(07:29):
bigger extreme.
It took a hit when Sirius cameon the scene and then XM, and
then they merged right, andCelestial Radio took a beating
when Howard Stern left, and wasthat 30 years ago, right,
20-something years ago.
So you're seeing that now withcable TV, right, cable TV
(07:52):
because of streaming isdefinitely.
It's dying, like there is noreturn.
Jack (07:59):
Yeah, but when is somebody going to corral everybody?
When is somebody going tocorral everybody?
I mean, aren't you tired ofnine dollars for hulu?
You know twelve dollars for hbomax?
Uh, you know, you know twelvedollars for paramount plus.
It's ridiculous.
Scott (08:16):
We're getting nickeled and dimed to death well, we used
to say the same thing about, uhlike, direct tv and cable.
It's like, why can't we?
We always said, why can't it bea la carte?
Why can't I pick the channels Iwant to pick?
And they were like no.
So now you have that option andpeople you're not alone People
they complain like, oh, they'reraising the price.
(08:37):
They're raising the pricebecause we're watching.
Oh Jesus, there it is thecomment.
There it is the comment.
There it is big head Todd thewet sprocket is back.
I love him.
I am here entertain me.
No, you're just gonna listen.
You're gonna listen.
I'm gonna try to pay as littleattention to you as possible.
(08:58):
Big head, Todd the wet sprocket.
So now that we get that a lacarte just like music, right.
People like I don't want to getTodd the Witsprocket.
So now that we get that a lacarte just like music, right.
People are like I don't want topay for Paramount.
I think what the problem is isyou pay like Netflix is
extremely hot and cold, right.
Jack (09:16):
Yeah.
Scott (09:17):
April Bernard.
I April love April.
Jack (09:21):
I love April too.
She's awesome.
Scott (09:22):
April loves the tattoo Loves the new tattoo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah Well loveApril too.
She's awesome.
April loves the tattoo, lovesthe new tattoo.
Well, jack, you know, when youhave a forearm like a leg of
lamb, you really you can't getsomething small Right.
Even the tattoo guy said hegoes.
I can see that the L kind ofcurves up over my wrist right
(09:43):
and I said, oh, it goes up wherehe goes.
Dude, if I do it any smaller,it's just going to be like a
straight line on that arm.
I said, okay, blow it up.
So now we get it a la carte,just like our music, and people
complain.
But, like I said, netflix isextremely hot and cold.
Jack (10:02):
Yeah, I mean, Netflix is definitely hit or miss.
No question about it.
I mean, there have been timeswhere I've spent more time
searching through Netflix thanactually watching something.
Scott (10:13):
Well, isn't that cable?
Wasn't that the joke five yearsago, when you would say I got
250 channels and I only watchedthree of them?
So it's the same thing.
Jack (10:25):
Yep, I know what it was for you.
Cnn, MSNBC.
Scott (10:28):
Are you fucking?
Jack (10:30):
You started it not me Wherever the view is on.
Scott (10:34):
You started it, not me, buddy.
I'm not biting, I'm going to doit.
Right now my brother, colin,will be saying fucking Jack, and
then he'll call me up and saywhat the fuck did you have to
say that for?
Jack (10:50):
Jack's an asshole.
Scott (10:57):
I know you're tempted to get another tattoo on your other
arm that says righty, no.
Jack (11:02):
I'm going to say Jack's an asshole.
Scott (11:04):
Plenty of room on that meat hook.
Jack's a fucking asshole.
That would be even better,jackie.
Jack (11:11):
Calabrese.
Scott (11:12):
Jackie Calabrese fucking asshole.
And there's still room forartwork.
On each side, An Italian flag.
From 90 Circuit Road inWinthrop, massachusetts, and so
then you take a picture of myarm and that's your ID.
This is me.
You need my information.
I'll text it to you.
(11:32):
You text a tattoo.
Jack (11:35):
Don't you think like the whole streaming of music?
I mean, you know what?
You and I talked about this theother day when I was driving,
when I called you because of mydeep love, respect and affection
for you.
I called you on my way down towork and we actually talked
about how, you know, music isn'tnecessarily curated, but it
(11:59):
kind of is.
What terrestrial radio did forus was they actually showed us
the way right, they fed us, butthere was a a sense of community
in that where a lot of peoplewere listening to essentially
the same things, especially ifyou go back into the 60s and 70s
and now you know to your point.
You know that music is a lacarte.
(12:19):
You know you go to spotify orit, itunes or whatever it is,
and there is a lot of music andyou have to really go out and
search for it.
But the cool thing about it isis it has made it accessible for
people.
They don't have to bow down tothe major record labels to
(12:40):
actually get music out.
Yeah, and this, this is somereally, really cool stuff out
there.
Scott (12:46):
Oh, absolutely Absolutely .
I have discovered and I sendthem to you and tell bro Gretzky
, uncle UT, fob, utg, fob, youknow, whatever we call him, and
I don't know, like, if you guysever listen to it.
Or you know, I don't know ifyou have time to just pop, okay,
(13:08):
it's the middle of the day andI send you this obscure band
that I found on Spotify andyou're like, yeah, they're good.
It's like I'm not listening toyours either.
Then you don't listen to mine,I'm not listening to yours, and
that's what my friend, charlieChaz, this is my home studio,
Thank you, thank you, of course,got to have the Fenway Park
(13:31):
right behind me.
Yeah, do you listen to any ofthat stuff?
Like, honestly, honestly, do wewaste each other's time?
Because what I was going to sayis me, jack, and our friend,
mark Talent.
We send each other music Likeif we hear something good and
there's either no response oryou get fucking doused in
(13:52):
gasoline.
And then the other one lightsthe match, the beautiful, hold
on.
I'm sorry, jack, I'm readingthis.
The beautiful Tiffany Van Hillwatching Lovely, lovely,
beautiful young lady.
Tiffany van hill, friend ofmine, welcome to the show.
Go mets charlie.
Just see, he fucked it up.
(14:12):
He compliments the room,compliments my studio, and then
says go mets right, all right,anyway.
Jack, you were saying do youlisten to this, do you?
Just, you know you don't know,no, I video.
Jack (14:26):
No, I absolutely do listen to them and and watch them.
Don't always get to them rightaway, right um, you know, try to
, but and there's been a coupleof times, like there was one
that you sent me when we weretalking about, like, uh, pub
rock, uh, I can't remember thename of the bands.
Scott (14:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was.
I said it was, it was Britishgarage band rock.
Jack (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that was good, though that was good, but you,
you sent me a link to the band.
Uh, I can't even remember thename of the band.
I'm going to have to look it up.
Sent you a couple of monthsbefore.
No, I don't believe that.
Scott (15:08):
Yeah, I don't believe it.
I know it.
That's like I sent you guys.
I sent you a video back we'retalking probably a year and a
half ago, the war on drugs.
I sent that video and nothing,and like four months later
you're like, hey, check out thisvideo and I'm like is he
fucking with me?
Is he fucking with me?
Jack (15:31):
I have no doubt that you know that type of thing happens.
Scott (15:33):
We cross over, though we cross over the same music, Of
course, of course, and the groupWar on Drugs.
I swear they were influenced bythe Waterboys.
I swear they were.
Jack (15:43):
Yeah, they have a 70s sound.
Deb and I actually went and sawthem last year.
They were fantastic.
Scott (15:49):
Were they yeah.
Jack (15:50):
They were amazing.
They played with the National.
It was fantastic.
Ah see, so the band that I sentyou, that you sent me back, was
the OCs.
Yeah, the OCs I sent.
Yeah, yeah, and you had sent meback was the OCs.
Scott (16:02):
Yeah, the OCs.
I said yeah, yeah, and youwould send me that prior.
Yes, I had.
I don't recall that.
Is there evidence in thosethree years of text messages?
Jack (16:13):
Is there evidence?
I bet you that I could scanback and find it.
Scott (16:15):
Oh you're not going to.
You won't because you didn'tsend it number one, I think I
did.
No no no.
So we were talking a coupledays ago and we were talking
about again what was theconversation about ticket prices
(16:35):
.
It went in that direction.
Oh, so it started with thewhole.
You know, I sent the text Bonoopening his mouth again.
Blah, blah, blah.
Bruce Springsteen, what is yourtake?
So let's get it out there.
What is your honest take on thewhole Bruce Springsteen thing?
Jack (16:59):
Well, I'm a huge Springsteen fan.
I'm still a huge Springsteenfan.
I'm still a huge Springsteenfan.
So for me, for me, whether it'sSting, whether it's Bono,
whether it's Don Henley, whetherit's, you know, bruce
Springsteen, whether it's EddieVedder, any of those guys, I
know that they feel compelled toshare their viewpoints on
(17:21):
politics or the ecology or theenvironment or homelessness or
whatever.
I never really subscribe to it.
I don't.
If I'm going to educate myself,if I'm going to have an opinion
on a particular issue, they'renot going to be my source
material.
And the other aspect to it isthat I'm in it for the music and
(17:49):
I'm just not going to let itspoil.
So even when I've seen PearlJam and they've gone on, or he's
gone on rants or whatever, Idon't leave to get a beer or
anything like that.
I just disregard it.
Scott (18:01):
I could care less what they say, even if there's a drum
solo.
Jack (18:04):
Drum solo.
I'm definitely out.
Jackie's not a big drum solofan.
Scott (18:13):
That is one of those moments in time in Milk Crate's
turntable history.
We're talking about bestdrummers.
It was probably like our firstyear doing this and we're going
on like I don't know four yearsthis thing's been going through
and you were like drum solos.
Fuck the drum solo.
Jack (18:37):
Look, we've talked about this before.
You know.
Like you know, we talk aboutthe mighty Van Halen and them
going out on tour every fuckingyear.
They, they played it was alwaysthe same thing.
You know three or four songs inmichael anthony would do his
bass, exactly right, and they doa couple more songs, and then
alex van halen would do the drum, uh, his drum solo, and then
(19:01):
even I know I know this issomewhat sacrilege for some
people, but Eddie would do hisguitar solo.
I mean, collectively, theycould have played another eight,
ten songs, like nice.
Scott (19:18):
No doubt, no doubt.
But remember as I always sayback in those days no doubt, no
doubt.
But remember as I always sayback in those days, it was
nothing but testosterone-driven,you know, like energy at
concerts.
80% of the people that were atconcerts were guys, young men,
right, would you say?
(19:39):
That's a good estimate?
Jack (19:40):
Yeah, depending upon the band.
Scott (19:48):
The bands that we were seeing.
Yeah, it was definitely, atleast I think, at best an 80 20
mix.
All right, I let me let me offjust off the top of my head.
I'm gonna throw out some namesand you give me a ratio.
All right, what?
Jack (19:55):
are you drinking?
Uh, this is um raspberry limesalsa Is that is that alcoholic.
No, it's not.
Scott (20:05):
Oh, okay, I don't get that shit.
I am glad I am not a like ayoung, fucking young man in this
world where, where a drink islike fucking $15 and their drink
.
Look at, we thought we thoughtZima was bad and they fucking
topped it with white claw andtheir white claw gets pushed
aside by fucking Seltzer.
(20:26):
What the fuck?
Truly, the disintegration ofthe male, the American male, is
happening through alcohol.
Let's see.
Jack (20:40):
Men should be drinking beer and whiskey.
Scott (20:43):
Dave Phillips.
Dave Phillips, king of the 45s,says drum solos suck, santana,
guitar solos suck also.
And let me top that off withfuck Santana, you can have all.
I give his albums away.
Jack (21:00):
I'm telling you, I have never, not once and I've been to
a lot of concerts seen a bassdrum or guitar solo where I was
like, yeah, it's like come on,oh, no, no, no.
Scott (21:12):
Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, I got one for you Greatest drum
solo ever in a concert.
It was actually the worstconcert I've ever been to, but
worst concert I ever been to,but it's worst concert combined.
Um, when blue is, the cultsings godzilla and the drummer
leans back and all of a suddenleans forward, he's got a
(21:33):
godzilla head on.
Come on, man, that's fuckinggreat.
That was great.
He leans back, he does.
And all of a sudden he's gotthis big fucking godzilla head
and he's doing a drum solo withthe godzilla head on, come on
man that was.
Jack (21:49):
That was the type of production that we enjoyed back
in those days it was you know?
No, no, no lasers, no flames oranything like that a big rubber
mask that black, that black andblue concert sucked, fucking
ass.
Scott (22:05):
It was bad.
Jack (22:07):
Sabbath wasn't so bad.
Scott (22:09):
They were because Ozzy wasn't with them.
I saw Dio and I was like oh, Ididn't know what I was getting
into with that one, I justwanted to see Come on.
Look it Okay, and we paid $12for the tickets.
Yeah, so literally you got whatyou paid for with that concert.
Jack (22:27):
We've talked about this before.
We were musically uneducatedback then because we paid our
$12 to see the black and blueBlue Oyster Cult.
Scott (22:38):
Yeah, great hype.
Jack (22:40):
We were like ugh most of the show and across town for $7,
Ray Charles was playing.
Scott (22:46):
Right, right, yeah, but that was one of those.
Again, you paid $12 to see it,but I really only went to see
Don't Fear the Reaper.
It's a great live song.
Yeah, and they do it for likefucking.
They did it for like 10 minutes.
Jack (23:05):
Yes.
Scott (23:06):
And it was really.
I mean, that's just so.
I paid 12 bucks to see that.
Oh, and I'm burning, I'mburning.
I'm burning because of you.
That's a great song.
Burning for you, no, because ofyou.
Said that to a couple of girls.
Burning for you because of youSaid that to a couple girls over
in the Philippines Get out ofhere.
(23:26):
I did in the Philippines, butthat's not right.
So wait a minute.
So wait a minute.
Jack (23:33):
Before you get too far away from it.
You have a different opinion onSpringsteen and him calling out
the Donald.
Scott (23:41):
I say you say what you want inside the country, but
when you go to another countryand you badmouth the president
and you badmouth the country andyou're there as an entertainer,
you're there as an entertainer,okay.
That's where you're out ofbounds.
Don't go outside the family.
You can talk all the shit youwant in country.
(24:01):
That's why a lot of peopledon't like Bonner.
You can talk all the shit youwant in country.
That's why a lot of peopledon't like Bonner.
You don't even fucking.
You weren't born here.
I don't know if he's anAmerican citizen.
Jack (24:11):
No.
Scott (24:12):
So he's got that never-ending green card or the
work visa, the work visa, but no, I don't think there is such a
thing as in country or out ofcountry.
Jack (24:27):
Anymore there is.
There is, you know the themedia is.
So you know global with the,you know web and everything,
regardless of where he said thatit would have been, you know
top story not.
Scott (24:37):
If he said it here in in like fucking new jersey he might
have.
If he did it in Oklahoma he'dget booed.
That's why they don't do ithere, Because he doesn't want to
.
He knew over there he couldplay up to all of that.
I don't know, I'm telling you,and that he didn't really get
such a great response from whatI heard, from what I listened to
(24:59):
.
Jack (24:59):
But I don't.
Do you really think he caresabout the response?
Scott (25:03):
No, because he's fucking 80 years old.
He's got $750 million in thebank.
Jack (25:10):
But what does he get out of it?
When was the last timeSpringsteen was in the news?
Scott (25:15):
Yeah, exactly, but there's other ways to get into
the news.
Apparently not, well, there is,but he just decided look, it is
him.
Denaro and bono.
They're fucking old liberalsand I don't want to get off into
this because this is a musicshow, nothing worse than an old,
fucking liberal.
And if you, I'm sorry, ifyou're listening and I insulted
(25:37):
you, but I'm using those threeas a, as a, as a, as a wait,
wait.
Jack (25:43):
You softened your comment.
You said there's nothing worsethan an old liberal.
Scott (25:47):
Yeah, well, old rock star liberal, I'll say that you know
, or movie star, or hollywhatever, like I don't know if
they're trying to be relevant,they're not doing it the right
way.
But and they don't care aboutthe money.
They don't care.
Bono doesn't care about themoney.
Bono doesn't care about themoney.
Bruce Springsteen doesn't careabout the money.
He wouldn't have done thatfucking 40 years ago because his
(26:11):
record company would have hitthe fucking roof.
Jack (26:13):
But look what happened to the Dixie Chicks.
Scott (26:15):
What they care about is relevance, relevance yeah, and
they're hanging on to the wrongstring.
They can be relevant and stillput out and not be political in
another country, like I said.
So I'm not for it.
(26:36):
Don't go outside the family,just don't go outside the family
.
Keep it in-house, say all youwant in-house, but it's not a
good look when you go to anothercountry.
Jack (26:47):
So wait a minute, using your logic, if he had made that
statement in New York or Floridaor Minnesota or wherever, you
would have been okay with it.
Scott (26:58):
Well, I wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't be
upset about it.
I'd be like this fucking guy.
You know, look at this, like DeNiro, here we go again.
You know, here we go again.
But you go to another country,you go outside the family.
You know, it's like you goingon another podcast and
badmouthing me.
That's fucking wrong.
(27:19):
I've heard you do that too.
It might happen.
All those podcasts that you'reasked to be on.
Jack (27:27):
I might actually badmouth you on a different podcast
almost as soon as I finish mydrum solo.
Scott (27:37):
So, no, not a big fan of that.
But again, they don't need themoney, so they don't care.
At this point, now it's allabout.
I'm just going to say what Iwant, because they live in their
bubble and they're all.
I don't know.
What's Bono worth?
Has Bono?
Has he reached worth a billiondollars yet?
Jack (27:53):
I think if he's not, he's really close Right.
Scott (27:56):
And Springsteen sold whatever part of his catalog for
I don't know what 500 million.
Jack (28:06):
Almost as much as you're going to make when you sell this
podcast.
Scott (28:09):
I would never sell this podcast.
Hey, mark Maron.
Mark Smith sent me a text theother day.
Mark Maron's podcast.
It was every Monday for thepast 16 years and he finally
said he's hanging it up.
Jack (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said, but he's hanging it up, yeah,
yeah.
Yeah, he said, but he's Fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fuck, fuck,
fuck.
That has made him a householdname to a certain extent anyway.
I mean, he has been incredibly,incredibly successful and his
podcast is really good.
He's a very good interviewer.
Scott (28:42):
Marc Maron.
If you want to see mark maronat his fucking best, comedy wise
, on netflix there's a show andit's real, it's actually a
really good show.
It's called glow gloriousladies of wrestling and it's
based on a true story and heplays like one of the guys that
(29:03):
runs the whole organization.
And I'm telling you, dude, it's, it's, there's great storylines
in it.
If you've never watched it andyou're listening, watch it on
netflix.
It's called glow, I think.
There's two seasons, threeseasons, great characters, but
mark maron is the fucking anchorto that show, absolutely.
(29:23):
And the girl that he plays offshe plays off him, he plays off
her, plays it perfectly, theperfect chemistry.
But Marc Maron at his best isin that show called Glow.
So, speaking of Netflix earlier, what do you got?
You look like you're readingsomething.
Jack (29:40):
Deborah and I actually went and saw Marc Maron a couple
of weeks ago do his stand-up inPortsmouth.
He was hilarious.
Oh, yeah, just that dry Verygood, no, what I was looking at,
I was just curious.
So, depending upon which siteyou subscribe to, bono is worth
anywhere between $700 and $900million.
Scott (30:00):
Yeah, so you were right.
If he's not, he's close.
Jack (30:04):
The majority of his wealth coming from.
Scott (30:08):
Concerts Facebook.
What, oh, he bought stock inFacebook.
Jack (30:14):
He bought stock in Facebook very, very early.
Scott (30:18):
Since you're on that, what is the net worth of Alanis
Morissette?
What do you think it is?
Jack (30:29):
I bet you it's $65 million .
Scott (30:32):
I'd say it's over $100.
Jack (30:35):
Nope, at least according to two sources, it's $60 million
, really Okay.
How about Carly Simon?
Scott (30:44):
Carly Simon's net worth is probably about $30 million
$80 million.
Wow, all those Greatest Hitsalbums that she puts out $80
million, $80 million.
And she made all that off theseven Greatest Hits albums that
she put out.
That just rearranged songs.
Jack (31:04):
It says Scott as of 2024, carly Simon's net worth is
estimated around $80 million.
This wealth primarily stemsfrom her successful music career
, including album sales, concerttours and royalties.
Scott (31:20):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yosovane probably made afucking 60 of that 80.
And good for her.
Lookit, I love her music.
I hope don't get me wrong.
I love Carly Simon's music.
Carly Simon, as I've said fromday one.
It always creeps out Mark Smith, greatest mouth in the history
(31:41):
of music, right, not today.
She looks like I think if herand Steven Tyler was sitting
next to each other, you'd thinkthey're twins.
It's kind of weird.
Jack (31:52):
Scott, what's your middle name?
Scott (31:53):
Robert.
Jack (31:55):
Just for shits and giggles .
I typed in Scott McClain's networth.
Oh, and something came up.
It said scott j mclean's networth is estimated to be at
least 3.51 million dollars.
He owned shares in companiessuch as zion's bion corporation
national I don't care aboutscott j.
Scott (32:12):
I don't care about him.
Jack (32:13):
Yeah, so you know you'll, you'll be on, you'll be on here
sooner or later.
Well, I mean scott mclean has amoderate moderate.
Scott McClain has a moderatenet worth, but he's got a lot of
hot sauce from his podcastbusiness from sponsorships.
Scott (32:34):
All my money comes from sponsorships.
I've not gotten one penny frommy net worth isn't anything
close to yours, Jack.
Let's not get into that.
Jack (32:48):
Hey, I don't have a pinball machine in my man room.
Scott (32:50):
Damn right, you don't.
And a life-size Iron man.
Jack (32:53):
And a life-size Iron man.
Scott (32:55):
And a life-size Hulk and a life-size Spider-Man.
Jack (32:58):
Yeah.
Scott (32:59):
Yeah, no, you don't.
Jack (33:01):
No, I don't.
Scott (33:05):
My net worth with just these statues is more than you.
Look, I want to pull this up, Iwant to pull something up here.
There we go, let's see.
Let's see if this works.
Jack (33:16):
Dave Phillips, Chicago at the Heinz in the early 70s
fourth row, $4.50 per ticket.
My first Aerosmith concert wasthe Rock Store.
It was $6.50.
Really, First time.
Scott (33:35):
I saw Springsteen it was $13.50,.
I want to say Get rid of that.
Let's see, I'm going to addsomething here.
I want you to see this.
Jack (33:43):
I don't think I paid more than $18 to see Queen.
Scott (33:47):
Queens.
The more I look at Queenscatalog, I don't know what the
fucking big hype was.
They have fucking eight goodsongs.
All right, here we go, charlieSimon, all right.
Rock legends heartbroken overmusical instruments stolen in
(34:08):
Atlantic City.
The rock band Heart is offeringa reward for two vintage
musical instruments that werereportedly stolen as they
prepared to launch their latesttour in Atlantic City.
Fucking New Jersey, thosefucking people.
Guitarist Nancy Wilson claimedin a post on Instagram that the
irreplaceable instruments werestolen from their setup prior to
(34:31):
their show on May 31st at theHard Rock Hotel and Casino Now
number one.
There's a problem here.
If you have fuckingirreplaceable instruments, if
you got that kind of fuckinginstruments in your heart and
you have all that fucking moneyyou don't have like security,
like you don't.
That doesn't go with your bullcrew, with your roadies.
(34:58):
Custom-built, one-of-a-kindpurple-sparkled baritone
telecaster with a hand-paintedheadstock, crafted specifically
for Nancy Wilson.
According to her post onInstagram, also taken was a
vintage 1966 Gibson EM-50mandolin that band member Paul
(35:20):
Moak has played for over 25years.
Jack (35:23):
Yes, but do you have an update to this story, because
they actually arrested somebody.
Scott (35:27):
Did they?
I don't have the update now.
Jack (35:29):
It says Tell me the rest of the story Paul Harvey.
At Lee.
Atlantic Police saysurveillance video initially led
them to a 57-year-oldPleasantville man.
He was later seen on videowalking through various parts of
the city trying to sell theinstruments instruments and he
eventually sold one, while theother remains unaccounted for,
police said declining furthercomment.
(35:50):
The man has been charged withburglary and theft.
Does mark smith live?
Scott (35:55):
I was just gonna say that .
Fucking mark smith.
Ah man, that's the first personI thought of.
Leo haskell, hottest workingman in show business, checked in
.
Mark Smith Ah man, that's thefirst person I thought of.
Leo Haskell, hottest workingman in show business, checked in
.
Yep yeah, mark Smith from theMusic Relish podcast.
I heard their episode last week.
They were talking somethingabout a guitar.
(36:16):
I didn't really get it.
They were very cryptic.
So it's either him or PerryDedevich.
I don't know, lou lives inSouth Carolina or North Carolina
.
Jack (36:31):
Yeah, you have to imagine a band like Heart that's been
around for a long time.
Scott (36:44):
Almost any instrument that they're bringing out on the
road is going to be vintage andworth a fortune because of the
affiliation with Hart?
Jack (36:49):
Yeah, I guess.
So yeah, absolutely, wow, allright, good, add on there, scott
, that was fantastic what I'magreeing with you.
Scott (36:56):
You want me to say no.
What do you want me to say tothat?
Jack (36:59):
You just had a little Ed McMahon moment.
Scott (37:01):
Yes, yeah, you are correct sir.
Jack (37:05):
Yes absolutely.
Scott (37:07):
Let me see Mark Smith.
There he is.
He's trying to not be culpablehere.
Why would she bringirreplaceable guitars on the
road?
Jack (37:16):
Because Perry Lightfingers Perry.
Scott (37:18):
Lightfingers, perry Denovich, the AI Perry.
Jack (37:28):
Lightfingers.
Scott (37:32):
That's right up there and I got to tell this story.
That just reminded me ofsomething.
So our friend Phil Kelly, right, El Rey as I call him, he was
at church one day and he tellsme this story because he's a
good Catholic boy and he's atchurch.
He says the guy in front of himhas on a pair of loafers with
(37:56):
the rubber soles and Phil, likehe's standing behind the guy,
he's looking like he's trying toget the guy's attention.
The guy turns around and Philvery, very lightly says he says
nice, crime shoes.
And points at the guy's shoesCrime shoes.
(38:17):
Because you can't, a 400 poundman can be walking in a pair of
those shoes and you're not goingto hear him.
It was like they made him likethat gum rubber.
Right, you got a little springin your bounce in your step,
yeah, so that happened.
(38:39):
And again, why would they bringthat shit on the road?
Jack (38:45):
And not have it protected.
That's what they do.
I mean well, not having itprotected, that's a whole other
story.
Scott (38:52):
Right.
Jack (38:53):
That's a whole other story .
Scott (38:55):
It's a whole other story.
Jack (38:57):
You know what I mean With those backstage areas.
There's a lot of people around,there's a lot of hangers-on.
I mean, you never know how ithappened, but it's not the first
time that we've heard anythinglike this happen.
This type of thing happens abit.
Scott (39:16):
I'm trying to find the story that.
I guess it's not there.
I guess it's not there, notthis one.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fameconcert dates.
There's a lot of concertcancellations.
Peter Gabriel, not PeterGabriel.
What's his name?
(39:38):
Peter Murphy, yeah, peterMurphy has to cancel his shows.
Jack (39:45):
He's been having a huge, huge battle with substance.
Scott (39:50):
Yeah, even at his age.
Jack (39:53):
Yeah.
Scott (39:54):
Even as Dave Mason.
Same thing.
Jack (39:57):
Can you imagine that, being that age and still
struggling with you?
Know no no, it's just no, Idon't I don't, I don't.
I don't have the um, I don'thave the, the energy for it.
I don't even drink like I usedto, just because I'm such a
pussy.
The next morning I just don'tlike feeling bad.
Did we lose Scott?
(40:19):
Did somebody steal Scott?
Scott (40:32):
So anyway, like I was saying when I was going over to
the, I went to that concert.
Were you listening to me?
Jack (40:40):
Yeah, you disappeared from the screen for a second.
No, you disappeared.
No, you disappeared.
Scott (40:43):
No, no, you disappeared.
No, you disappeared, youdisappeared.
You disappeared when.
Yeah, where'd you go?
Jack (40:52):
I didn't go anywhere.
What?
Scott (40:53):
happened?
What just happened?
What did you do?
Jack (40:57):
I don't know I didn't do anything, I'm talking and you
disappeared I didn't do nothing.
Scott (41:03):
I didn't do it.
It wasn't do it, it wasn't me.
Okay, it was.
Jack (41:07):
Where did you go?
Gf2p, it's okay.
Scott (41:11):
Big Head, todd the Wet Sprocket, just wasted no time,
no time and just jumped right inand said the show just got
better when I went off for 10seconds.
I don't think he could havetyped any faster.
Jack (41:28):
Scott, you and I have different philosophies in terms
of, like going to see concerts.
Is there anybody out therethat's touring not necessarily
really right now, but that'sstill active in terms of touring
that you haven't seen, that youwould like to see?
Scott (41:43):
Yes, and I'm skeptical about going and it's funny you
said that and you might haveheard me refer to her in the
past.
Jack (41:57):
Probably Simon.
Scott (41:57):
No, no, jessica Lee Mayfield.
I love her, but she's inconcert with Let me see.
It's like this Latin band and Idon't know the way they're
wording it, and it's at a verysmall venue in Fort Lauderdale.
(42:20):
Let me see the Culture Room.
It's in a very small venue inFort Lauderdale.
Let me see the Culture Room.
It's in a very small venue.
That's where I saw the churchwith Phil Kelly and it doesn't
say if she's on her own doingher own thing or if she's with
them.
It kind of hints that she'skind of with them, jessica Lee
(42:43):
Mayfield.
So I'd like to go see her, butwith Lucero.
Lucero is the.
It's at the Culture Room onSeptember 7th, lucero
L-U-C-E-R-O with Jessica LeeMayfield.
How do you perceive that?
How do you take that?
Jack (43:04):
Have you ever heard the band Lucero?
Scott (43:06):
No.
Jack (43:07):
They're actually really good.
Scott (43:08):
Really, they've been around for a while.
Jack (43:10):
They've been around for a while.
Scott (43:11):
Yeah.
Jack (43:13):
Are they opening or is she opening?
Scott (43:15):
It just says Lucero, Lucero, Lucero, however you
pronounce it, celebrating 20years of Nobody's Darlings with
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
So I'm thinking like she's withthem, like she's playing with
them.
I don't know, man.
I should just call the venue.
Jack (43:34):
Either that or go onto their website.
You should be able to get some.
Scott (43:37):
I went on hers and it just she has solo stuff but
she's not coming around here.
And then it just says so thatanswers the question and why I'm
supposed to be on that side.
Why are you on my side?
There you go.
Don't do that to me again.
For the listeners on thepodcast I just switched our
screens because I don't like itdoes.
Jack (44:00):
Why do you care it does?
Because I'm the host.
Why do you care?
Scott (44:02):
Because does because I'm the host.
Why do you care?
Why?
Because I'm the one thatcontrols the controls.
I'm the controller of thecontrols.
That's all there is to it.
Yeah, that's right.
Shake your head, put your handsup, throw your hands up in the
air, dance around like you justdon't care.
That's so funny, that's so.
(44:22):
Do you get your window open?
Looks like you got a windowopen over there.
Yeah yeah, all that smog.
It's like what the fuck.
Jack (44:31):
Dude, I live in New Hampshire.
Scott (44:33):
There isn't any smog up here.
There's smog there.
There's liberal smog.
Jack (44:38):
In New Hampshire.
Scott (44:41):
Oh, I got some inside information on something that's
going to try to swing NewHampshire.
What is that?
I'm not going to tell you onthe air.
Jack (44:50):
What.
Scott (44:50):
Real insider information.
Jack (44:53):
Like.
Scott (44:54):
I'm just saying, I know people who know things, who know
other people.
Jack (44:59):
Okay.
Scott (45:00):
Who are involved with things.
Is that right?
That's all I'm going to say.
That's all I'm going to say.
Jack (45:04):
Yeah, I mean, look, the window is open, there's a chance
that you may hear the traingoing by.
Scott (45:09):
I missed the train.
Jack (45:11):
You may or you may not hey speaking of.
You know what was the name ofthe woman that you asked?
Scott (45:17):
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
Jack (45:19):
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
I just got tickets to LolaYoung.
Scott (45:23):
Yeah, you were saying that.
Yeah, is she, are you?
Are you on her?
Is she coming around here atall?
That was a long way to say isshe coming around here?
If you can look, I can tell youin a second.
I started and stammered becauseshe's so hot not really, yeah,
but she owns it.
I give it to the girl.
(45:43):
I give it to the girl.
I give it to the girl.
I like her.
I introduced you to heractually, or amused her.
No, you didn't.
Oh, I did.
Oh, I did.
I set the video.
I can prove it on my text.
No, that's not true.
Jack (45:53):
I can't, I can't, that's absolutely not true.
Yeah, yeah.
Scott (45:57):
She.
Jack Smith ratting me out.
Scott, you disappeared.
Come on, man Don't Anyway Wiz,I need Perry.
Jack (46:06):
I think the closest she's coming to you is Atlanta.
Yeah, I don't want to go there.
Fuck Atlanta.
She's playing a small venue.
In Boston.
She's playing the Roadrunner,which is not tiny, but it's not
huge either.
Scott (46:22):
Right, where is it located?
Jack (46:25):
It's right in Boston.
Scott (46:26):
Like all right, asshole, we're in Boston.
Boston's a good size.
There's a lot of places Likewhat area of?
Jack (46:34):
Boston, just going past like Fenway Park, towards like
Alston.
Scott (46:39):
Okay, all right, yeah, all right.
Jack (46:43):
So the place actually believe it or not, even though
it's kind of a warehousey clubthing, it actually has a bigger
capacity than the Orpheum it's3,500.
How long has that place beenaround?
Uh, 2022.
Scott (46:59):
That's it, huh, for some reason, I don't know the.
Jack (47:01):
Roadrunner is a concert venue in Brighton.
Scott (47:04):
Brighton.
Yeah, well, you said Austin.
It's the same thing really.
Jack (47:09):
Yeah, since opening on March 15th 2022.
Roadrunner has been the largestgeneral admission concert venue
in New England wow, generaladmission, that's interesting
the venue is named after what'sthe name of the room?
Scott (47:26):
jonathan richmond's.
Yeah jonathan richmond, youknow what I was gonna joke
around and say does jonathanrichmond own that?
Jack (47:33):
he doesn't own it, and I'm gonna say that he does.
He doesn't own it.
Scott (47:37):
I don't know if he's ever been there and he could not
fill it he could not fill itespecially, but maybe the guy
that posed as him could fill it.
Jack (47:48):
Now, maybe if the modern lovers were playing that, that
might be.
Scott (47:53):
What?
What?
Roadrunner, roadrunner, goingfaster by an hour, going faster
by an hour?
You know a fucking great song?
That's a King of Facebook song.
Right there, that was like anopening to the King of Facebook.
(48:14):
That's a song.
Right there, roadrunner,roadrunner, let me see.
Let's get one more article andthen I'll let you go.
The beautiful Dr Vera just gothome a little while ago and well
, she's prettier to look at thanyou are.
I have surviving members of aniconic 70s rock band return with
(48:38):
new music video.
Let's see what this mess isabout.
Jack (48:43):
So talking heads, I don't know, let's see.
Scott (48:44):
Let's see what this mess is about.
So talking heads?
I don't know, let's see.
Let's see what it is.
I'm going to pull it up on thescreen Over here.
Media let's see what we got.
Jack (48:57):
I bet it was the talking heads.
Scott (48:58):
You think?
No, I don't think so.
They will never get backtogether again.
Alice Cooper and survivingbandmate guitarist Michael Bruce
, bassist Dennis Dunaway anddrummer Neil Smith dropped a new
music video for the single WildOnes oh boy.
Inspired by the iconic 1953film the Wild Ones starring
(49:20):
Marlon Brando, the trackcaptures the same defiant spirit
that once shocked middleAmerica and defined a generation
that's not so far off.
Alice Cooper was a they were adefining band in the 70s.
Jack (49:37):
But, in my defense, announced today there was a big
tease by the talking heads, andthis article says.
However, fans were left alittle gutted.
After all that teasing, it wasfinally revealed that the group
were releasing a music video.
They are, they are.
Scott (49:58):
Tina Weymouth and David Byrne are going to get along, or
are they doing it for the money?
Jack (50:04):
And Jerry Harrison, who started out playing in what band
?
Scott (50:09):
Jerry Harrison started out playing in.
I'm not sure.
Jack (50:14):
You were just playing them .
Scott (50:18):
Oh, the Modern Lovers.
Jack (50:20):
He was in the Modern Lovers, all right.
Well, let's do this.
Scott (50:21):
I don't know if you two won't, let me do it.
The Modern Lovers he was in theModern Lovers.
Jack (50:26):
All right Well let's do this.
Scott (50:27):
I don't know.
If YouTube won't let me do it,They'll give me a strike if I
play the video.
The Alice Cooper Group wasformed in the early 1960s.
Yada, yada, yada, so I don'tknow.
That means they're probablygoing to go on tour.
Jack (50:41):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Scott (50:43):
Would you go see Alice Cooper?
Jack (50:45):
Sure.
Scott (50:46):
Really.
Jack (50:47):
Yeah, but you know what it's like you and I were talking
about the other day.
It depends.
It depends where, it dependshow much you know.
Like if they were playing downin Boston somewhere and the
tickets were reasonable and itwas a Wednesday night, I'd go.
Scott (51:07):
No, no, no, I don't know.
Just go see the HollywoodVampires.
I would see them too.
I would see the HollywoodVampires, just because it's a
good combination of people.
And I like Johnny Depp.
As crazy as he is, I likeJohnny Depp.
I love how.
You know what I love about thatand you see this like when.
(51:28):
What's his name?
The dude that played ForrestGump, the actor, you know his
name, the guy that playedForrest Gump.
Jack (51:41):
Tom Hanks no.
Scott (51:44):
No.
Jack (51:45):
The guy that played Forrest Gump, tom Hanks no,
billy Bob Thornton.
Scott (51:48):
No, not Forrest Gump, I'm sorry.
Sling Blade, carl, I like them.
French fry potatoes, they got.
They get these bands and likeJohnny Depp goes like way
overboard with the fucking.
The band Dan is like theyreally dress rock, like rock
(52:08):
star stuff and I'm like a littleoverkill but okay, like that
shit was good in like the 80s,but they love it, they have fun
you know, hold on to it.
Jack (52:20):
They hold on to the.
Scott (52:21):
They're trying to stay relevant evidently, johnny Depp
isn't a bad guitarist either.
Jack (52:26):
No, he's a pretty good.
He knows what he's doing, hecan play.
Scott (52:29):
Well, you're out on the road with Keith Richards and a
few other band members that comeand go.
Hey, you're going to learnsomething.
Absolutely.
You better fucking learnsomething.
Hey, how do you feel aboutAaron Rodgers Going to?
Jack (52:43):
Pittsburgh.
Good luck, absolutelyDefinitely you better, you
better fucking learn something.
So hey, how?
Scott (52:47):
do you feel about Aaron Rodgers going to Pittsburgh?
Good luck, good fucking luck.
Good what's he?
Do you know what?
Jack (52:53):
Terry.
Scott (52:53):
Bradshaw said Get rid of him.
What are you wasting your timeon that guy?
For he's a loser, like heripped him.
He ripped him, he goes.
What are you doing?
You got this guy who's bouncedaround.
He's a flake, he's a lunatic,he's all the conspiracy, blah,
blah.
Terry Bradshaw ripped him up,man, yeah, hey, what's he going
to do there?
(53:13):
Right, nothing for one year.
It's going to be a big year forthe Patriots, though.
I'll tell you what you think.
So it's gonna be a big year forthe Patriots, though I'll tell
you what.
This is an exciting team, yes,yes, drake May and Josh
McDaniels coming back.
He's got Tom Brady all overagain.
He gets to mold this kid,although Tom Brady was molded by
(53:35):
Charlie Weiss, but JoshMcDaniel also won three Super
Bowls with them too.
So you know, um and Drake May,he's the real deal.
So, oh, what just happened?
How'd my camera move?
See that, let me see.
Let me see.
Does it do this?
Let me see something.
Ah, look at that, see.
Jack (53:55):
Look at you Extreme close-up.
Scott (53:58):
Yeah, I am a handsome bastard, look at me, yeah, you
are At 61,.
I'm still a handsomemotherfucker.
Jack (54:07):
You're a beautiful man.
Scott (54:09):
I don't know, I can't keep this.
I don't know how to make it gobackwards.
Jack (54:18):
Go back like this Imagine how sexy you'd look if you were
wearing a bandana.
Scott (54:22):
I'm sexy and I know it.
All right, look my camera'slosing control.
Let's call this a night, buddy.
We're coming up on an hour,jack, you know I love you, buddy
.
I thank you for all yoursupport during.
Look at my fucking camera.
Come on, what's going on?
What the hell's going on here?
Mark Smith, liverpool won thePremier League this year.
(54:44):
Perry Dinovich, perryLightfingers.
Perry Lightfingers commented inAlice Cooper, probably at the
Sphere in Vegas.
Jack (55:00):
You know who Deb and I are waiting to see at the Sphere.
This is my prediction at somepoint.
Radiohead, oh okay, oh yeah,you don't give a shit.
No, no, no, that would be great.
Scott (55:14):
Let me know I'll be the third wheel in that party.
Jack (55:18):
All right.
Scott (55:19):
I'll go to Vegas.
I got friends in Vegas you gotfriends everywhere.
Jack (55:23):
I do everywhere.
Scott (55:23):
I do, I do and Jefferson Orama says Johnny Depp is great.
He is, he is.
When I first retired in 2019,that fucking Amber Heard Johnny
Depp trial that was myentertainment for like three
months.
It was fucking great.
It was great.
(55:44):
My camera's all fucking crazynow.
All right, let's wrap this upLike I was saying I was getting
all it's moving.
Jackie boy, I love you again.
Thank you for all your supportduring my tough times and thanks
for coming back on the show.
Maybe we'll have you back nextweek if you're around.
Jack (56:04):
I'm going to be in Newport next week.
Scott (56:07):
All right.
Well, I'm going to be doingmusic news next week.
This fucking camera is drivingme crazy.
Jack (56:13):
Good, night everybody.
Scott (56:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, everybody, like I said,thank you for watching, Thanks
for listening.
If you liked it, share it.
If you didn't.
Well, thanks for watching for58 minutes and listening for 58
minutes and 40 seconds.
Now, like I say, you are theengine that runs this machine.
This camera's driving me crazy.
It's on its own auto thing.
It's like motion sensor kickedin.
And like I always say, to quotemy favorite artist, Morrissey,
(56:39):
doing this show for you, thepleasure, the privilege is mine.
I got to go way down here andfollow you and I will be back
next week.
Jack won't, but Jack will maybebe back in a couple weeks.
So, all right, buddy, I'll talkto you soon.
Jack (56:52):
Be good.
yeah, well, here we are, episode 176.
I am back six.
I am back.
Yeah, after a hiatus, I'm back.
(00:35):
New camera, new mic stand, neweverything and I am fucking
ready to go.
It's been too long.
You can't keep a good man downOn this episode.
Jack's back.
Let's see if his audio works.
(01:03):
New intro song by Pigs, pigs,pigs, pigs, pigs, Pigs, pigs and
the name of the song is GNT.
Go download it.
This is the fucking just playloud music.
(01:25):
This is just the fucking bloodpumping music.
I'm excited to be back.
Jackie boy, hey, can you hearme?
Yeah, I can hear you, but it'syour.
Here we go.
It's your.
(01:50):
It's your laptop mic.
No, well, talk closer to yourmicrophone.
Hello, well, tap it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Why are you all red?
Did you get beat up?
No, it's hot here, fucking hot.
What are you going to sunburn?
Jack (02:10):
I'm just blushing, I'm shy .
Scott (02:14):
Welcome back, buddy.
Jack (02:16):
Thank you.
Hold on a second.
Let me see if I pull the micjust a little bit closer, if
that helps.
How's that?
Scott (02:23):
It's better.
I appreciate the effort.
Jack (02:27):
I'm here for you.
Scott (02:28):
Well.
Jack (02:33):
Hello, hello, hello.
Scott (02:35):
What's going on oh?
Jack (02:41):
a little less.
What's that?
How's it going to go tonight?
How's it going to go?
You're going to be Donald J andI'm going to be Elon.
Scott (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have a small falling out.
We're still friends, we canargue, we can disagree.
Did you get you really gotsunburned?
Jack (02:59):
No, I didn't, you did.
Scott (03:03):
I got this new high def camera.
I can see everything, Jack.
Jack (03:07):
I haven't really been out in the sun.
There hasn't been a sun herefor a little bit, just a black
hole sun.
Scott (03:13):
Just a black hole sun.
Hey, you like my tattoo.
Jack (03:16):
I like it a lot.
I think it looks great.
Scott (03:18):
Right, right right.
Jack (03:20):
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be.
Scott (03:22):
No, I only go big buddy.
Jack (03:24):
I think it looks great.
Thank you, I think it looksgreat, quite a testament to you,
bro.
Scott (03:31):
Oh, Mark Smith, Little Marky Smith.
He said yo, Jack, you didn'tsay hi to me, though.
What the fuck?
What the?
We've been off for like twomonths, and this is what I get.
The first comment is Mark Smith, the music relish legend and he
says hi to you, as he should.
(03:51):
What?
No, he shouldn't the fuck.
Hold on.
Jack (03:59):
Mark, I hope all is well, my friend.
Scott (04:02):
Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Jack (04:05):
I'm still waiting for your kid to get me an Oasis ticket,
since my friend Scott welched ona bet.
Scott (04:14):
Just call me Grape Jelly.
Buddy, Just call me Grape Jelly.
Jack (04:18):
You are.
That's your new nickname ConkyGrape.
Scott (04:23):
Well, let's get caught up a little bit Again.
I don't want this to be abroadcast, but we've been off
for a little while because, well, my brother one of the I call
them co-producing it drove himcrazy.
He passed away.
He passed away and it reallyaffected me because he was, you
(04:47):
know, he meant everything to meand he loved this podcast.
He absolutely loved thispodcast.
Jack not so much, but you can'tsay anything.
Jack (05:02):
Yeah, I can no.
We all know that he loved itmost.
When did it?
When did he love it most?
Scott (05:10):
when you were on that's right I know only because he
liked when I yelled at you, likeeverybody does.
Well, I think they like itbetter when you bust my balls.
So I kind of took some time offand I have a couple of
nonprofits veteran nonprofitsthat I've really been focusing
(05:31):
on and those are moving alongvery well.
And so I called Jack, I senthim a text because he never
answers my calls and I said hey,that is such bullshit.
Jack (05:44):
Oh, no Are you just living in this total world of
disinformation.
Scott (05:48):
Nope.
Jack (05:49):
I always pick up your calls, always, always.
Scott (05:54):
Dude, I've been on this.
I have been on this, as youknow, recently I have been on
this Fucking Deftones kick again.
Jack (06:05):
They're amazing.
Hello, Dave Phillips.
Scott (06:11):
Dean Ferrin rocking.
Dave Phillips king of the 45s,right?
Yeah, I've been on thisDeftones kick lately, man, like
I used to listen to them all thetime and then you know, you
kind of fall and then you justrediscover again and you're like
(06:31):
, ah, like just so fucking.
As I said to the text to youthe other day, um, overlooked,
you know one of those underratedbands.
They've been around for fuckinglike almost 30 years, 25 years.
Jack (06:49):
I don't know how underrated they are.
I mean, they just swung throughBoston and they were headlined
in the garden.
Scott (06:55):
Yeah, they headlined down here and the tickets were
expensive, so you're right.
Jack (06:59):
Yeah.
Scott (06:59):
You're right.
Jack (07:01):
Of course I'm right.
Scott (07:02):
They're just not really.
They're a band.
That's never.
They're not a mainstay.
You don't hear them on theradio, whatever radio there is
to listen to now.
Does anybody listen toCelestial Radio anymore, other
than like Sports, talk shows andstuff like that?
I don't, no.
So what you have is the deathof Celestial Radio, now to a
(07:29):
bigger extreme.
It took a hit when Sirius cameon the scene and then XM, and
then they merged right, andCelestial Radio took a beating
when Howard Stern left, and wasthat 30 years ago, right,
20-something years ago.
So you're seeing that now withcable TV, right, cable TV
(07:52):
because of streaming isdefinitely.
It's dying, like there is noreturn.
Jack (07:59):
Yeah, but when is somebody going to corral everybody?
When is somebody going tocorral everybody?
I mean, aren't you tired ofnine dollars for hulu?
You know twelve dollars for hbomax?
Uh, you know, you know twelvedollars for paramount plus.
It's ridiculous.
Scott (08:16):
We're getting nickeled and dimed to death well, we used
to say the same thing about, uhlike, direct tv and cable.
It's like, why can't we?
We always said, why can't it bea la carte?
Why can't I pick the channels Iwant to pick?
And they were like no.
So now you have that option andpeople you're not alone People
they complain like, oh, they'reraising the price.
(08:37):
They're raising the pricebecause we're watching.
Oh Jesus, there it is thecomment.
There it is the comment.
There it is big head Todd thewet sprocket is back.
I love him.
I am here entertain me.
No, you're just gonna listen.
You're gonna listen.
I'm gonna try to pay as littleattention to you as possible.
(08:58):
Big head, Todd the wet sprocket.
So now that we get that a lacarte just like music, right.
People like I don't want to getTodd the Witsprocket.
So now that we get that a lacarte just like music, right.
People are like I don't want topay for Paramount.
I think what the problem is isyou pay like Netflix is
extremely hot and cold, right.
Jack (09:16):
Yeah.
Scott (09:17):
April Bernard.
I April love April.
Jack (09:21):
I love April too.
She's awesome.
Scott (09:22):
April loves the tattoo Loves the new tattoo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah Well loveApril too.
She's awesome.
April loves the tattoo, lovesthe new tattoo.
Well, jack, you know, when youhave a forearm like a leg of
lamb, you really you can't getsomething small Right.
Even the tattoo guy said hegoes.
I can see that the L kind ofcurves up over my wrist right
(09:43):
and I said, oh, it goes up wherehe goes.
Dude, if I do it any smaller,it's just going to be like a
straight line on that arm.
I said, okay, blow it up.
So now we get it a la carte,just like our music, and people
complain.
But, like I said, netflix isextremely hot and cold.
Jack (10:02):
Yeah, I mean, Netflix is definitely hit or miss.
No question about it.
I mean, there have been timeswhere I've spent more time
searching through Netflix thanactually watching something.
Scott (10:13):
Well, isn't that cable?
Wasn't that the joke five yearsago, when you would say I got
250 channels and I only watchedthree of them?
So it's the same thing.
Jack (10:25):
Yep, I know what it was for you.
Cnn, MSNBC.
Scott (10:28):
Are you fucking?
Jack (10:30):
You started it not me Wherever the view is on.
Scott (10:34):
You started it, not me, buddy.
I'm not biting, I'm going to doit.
Right now my brother, colin,will be saying fucking Jack, and
then he'll call me up and saywhat the fuck did you have to
say that for?
Jack (10:50):
Jack's an asshole.
Scott (10:57):
I know you're tempted to get another tattoo on your other
arm that says righty, no.
Jack (11:02):
I'm going to say Jack's an asshole.
Scott (11:04):
Plenty of room on that meat hook.
Jack's a fucking asshole.
That would be even better,jackie.
Jack (11:11):
Calabrese.
Scott (11:12):
Jackie Calabrese fucking asshole.
And there's still room forartwork.
On each side, An Italian flag.
From 90 Circuit Road inWinthrop, massachusetts, and so
then you take a picture of myarm and that's your ID.
This is me.
You need my information.
I'll text it to you.
(11:32):
You text a tattoo.
Jack (11:35):
Don't you think like the whole streaming of music?
I mean, you know what?
You and I talked about this theother day when I was driving,
when I called you because of mydeep love, respect and affection
for you.
I called you on my way down towork and we actually talked
about how, you know, music isn'tnecessarily curated, but it
(11:59):
kind of is.
What terrestrial radio did forus was they actually showed us
the way right, they fed us, butthere was a a sense of community
in that where a lot of peoplewere listening to essentially
the same things, especially ifyou go back into the 60s and 70s
and now you know to your point.
You know that music is a lacarte.
(12:19):
You know you go to spotify orit, itunes or whatever it is,
and there is a lot of music andyou have to really go out and
search for it.
But the cool thing about it isis it has made it accessible for
people.
They don't have to bow down tothe major record labels to
(12:40):
actually get music out.
Yeah, and this, this is somereally, really cool stuff out
there.
Scott (12:46):
Oh, absolutely Absolutely .
I have discovered and I sendthem to you and tell bro Gretzky
, uncle UT, fob, utg, fob, youknow, whatever we call him, and
I don't know, like, if you guysever listen to it.
Or you know, I don't know ifyou have time to just pop, okay,
(13:08):
it's the middle of the day andI send you this obscure band
that I found on Spotify andyou're like, yeah, they're good.
It's like I'm not listening toyours either.
Then you don't listen to mine,I'm not listening to yours, and
that's what my friend, charlieChaz, this is my home studio,
Thank you, thank you, of course,got to have the Fenway Park
(13:31):
right behind me.
Yeah, do you listen to any ofthat stuff?
Like, honestly, honestly, do wewaste each other's time?
Because what I was going to sayis me, jack, and our friend,
mark Talent.
We send each other music Likeif we hear something good and
there's either no response oryou get fucking doused in
(13:52):
gasoline.
And then the other one lightsthe match, the beautiful, hold
on.
I'm sorry, jack, I'm readingthis.
The beautiful Tiffany Van Hillwatching Lovely, lovely,
beautiful young lady.
Tiffany van hill, friend ofmine, welcome to the show.
Go mets charlie.
Just see, he fucked it up.
(14:12):
He compliments the room,compliments my studio, and then
says go mets right, all right,anyway.
Jack, you were saying do youlisten to this, do you?
Just, you know you don't know,no, I video.
Jack (14:26):
No, I absolutely do listen to them and and watch them.
Don't always get to them rightaway, right um, you know, try to
, but and there's been a coupleof times, like there was one
that you sent me when we weretalking about, like, uh, pub
rock, uh, I can't remember thename of the bands.
Scott (14:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was.
I said it was, it was Britishgarage band rock.
Jack (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that was good, though that was good, but you,
you sent me a link to the band.
Uh, I can't even remember thename of the band.
I'm going to have to look it up.
Sent you a couple of monthsbefore.
No, I don't believe that.
Scott (15:08):
Yeah, I don't believe it.
I know it.
That's like I sent you guys.
I sent you a video back we'retalking probably a year and a
half ago, the war on drugs.
I sent that video and nothing,and like four months later
you're like, hey, check out thisvideo and I'm like is he
fucking with me?
Is he fucking with me?
Jack (15:31):
I have no doubt that you know that type of thing happens.
Scott (15:33):
We cross over, though we cross over the same music, Of
course, of course, and the groupWar on Drugs.
I swear they were influenced bythe Waterboys.
I swear they were.
Jack (15:43):
Yeah, they have a 70s sound.
Deb and I actually went and sawthem last year.
They were fantastic.
Scott (15:49):
Were they yeah.
Jack (15:50):
They were amazing.
They played with the National.
It was fantastic.
Ah see, so the band that I sentyou, that you sent me back, was
the OCs.
Yeah, the OCs I sent.
Yeah, yeah, and you had sent meback was the OCs.
Scott (16:02):
Yeah, the OCs.
I said yeah, yeah, and youwould send me that prior.
Yes, I had.
I don't recall that.
Is there evidence in thosethree years of text messages?
Jack (16:13):
Is there evidence?
I bet you that I could scanback and find it.
Scott (16:15):
Oh you're not going to.
You won't because you didn'tsend it number one, I think I
did.
No no no.
So we were talking a coupledays ago and we were talking
about again what was theconversation about ticket prices
(16:35):
.
It went in that direction.
Oh, so it started with thewhole.
You know, I sent the text Bonoopening his mouth again.
Blah, blah, blah.
Bruce Springsteen, what is yourtake?
So let's get it out there.
What is your honest take on thewhole Bruce Springsteen thing?
Jack (16:59):
Well, I'm a huge Springsteen fan.
I'm still a huge Springsteenfan.
I'm still a huge Springsteenfan.
So for me, for me, whether it'sSting, whether it's Bono,
whether it's Don Henley, whetherit's, you know, bruce
Springsteen, whether it's EddieVedder, any of those guys, I
know that they feel compelled toshare their viewpoints on
(17:21):
politics or the ecology or theenvironment or homelessness or
whatever.
I never really subscribe to it.
I don't.
If I'm going to educate myself,if I'm going to have an opinion
on a particular issue, they'renot going to be my source
material.
And the other aspect to it isthat I'm in it for the music and
(17:49):
I'm just not going to let itspoil.
So even when I've seen PearlJam and they've gone on, or he's
gone on rants or whatever, Idon't leave to get a beer or
anything like that.
I just disregard it.
Scott (18:01):
I could care less what they say, even if there's a drum
solo.
Jack (18:04):
Drum solo.
I'm definitely out.
Jackie's not a big drum solofan.
Scott (18:13):
That is one of those moments in time in Milk Crate's
turntable history.
We're talking about bestdrummers.
It was probably like our firstyear doing this and we're going
on like I don't know four yearsthis thing's been going through
and you were like drum solos.
Fuck the drum solo.
Jack (18:37):
Look, we've talked about this before.
You know.
Like you know, we talk aboutthe mighty Van Halen and them
going out on tour every fuckingyear.
They, they played it was alwaysthe same thing.
You know three or four songs inmichael anthony would do his
bass, exactly right, and they doa couple more songs, and then
alex van halen would do the drum, uh, his drum solo, and then
(19:01):
even I know I know this issomewhat sacrilege for some
people, but Eddie would do hisguitar solo.
I mean, collectively, theycould have played another eight,
ten songs, like nice.
Scott (19:18):
No doubt, no doubt.
But remember as I always sayback in those days no doubt, no
doubt.
But remember as I always sayback in those days, it was
nothing but testosterone-driven,you know, like energy at
concerts.
80% of the people that were atconcerts were guys, young men,
right, would you say?
(19:39):
That's a good estimate?
Jack (19:40):
Yeah, depending upon the band.
Scott (19:48):
The bands that we were seeing.
Yeah, it was definitely, atleast I think, at best an 80 20
mix.
All right, I let me let me offjust off the top of my head.
I'm gonna throw out some namesand you give me a ratio.
All right, what?
Jack (19:55):
are you drinking?
Uh, this is um raspberry limesalsa Is that is that alcoholic.
No, it's not.
Scott (20:05):
Oh, okay, I don't get that shit.
I am glad I am not a like ayoung, fucking young man in this
world where, where a drink islike fucking $15 and their drink
.
Look at, we thought we thoughtZima was bad and they fucking
topped it with white claw andtheir white claw gets pushed
aside by fucking Seltzer.
(20:26):
What the fuck?
Truly, the disintegration ofthe male, the American male, is
happening through alcohol.
Let's see.
Jack (20:40):
Men should be drinking beer and whiskey.
Scott (20:43):
Dave Phillips.
Dave Phillips, king of the 45s,says drum solos suck, santana,
guitar solos suck also.
And let me top that off withfuck Santana, you can have all.
I give his albums away.
Jack (21:00):
I'm telling you, I have never, not once and I've been to
a lot of concerts seen a bassdrum or guitar solo where I was
like, yeah, it's like come on,oh, no, no, no.
Scott (21:12):
Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, I got one for you Greatest drum
solo ever in a concert.
It was actually the worstconcert I've ever been to, but
worst concert I ever been to,but it's worst concert combined.
Um, when blue is, the cultsings godzilla and the drummer
leans back and all of a suddenleans forward, he's got a
(21:33):
godzilla head on.
Come on, man, that's fuckinggreat.
That was great.
He leans back, he does.
And all of a sudden he's gotthis big fucking godzilla head
and he's doing a drum solo withthe godzilla head on, come on
man that was.
Jack (21:49):
That was the type of production that we enjoyed back
in those days it was you know?
No, no, no lasers, no flames oranything like that a big rubber
mask that black, that black andblue concert sucked, fucking
ass.
Scott (22:05):
It was bad.
Jack (22:07):
Sabbath wasn't so bad.
Scott (22:09):
They were because Ozzy wasn't with them.
I saw Dio and I was like oh, Ididn't know what I was getting
into with that one, I justwanted to see Come on.
Look it Okay, and we paid $12for the tickets.
Yeah, so literally you got whatyou paid for with that concert.
Jack (22:27):
We've talked about this before.
We were musically uneducatedback then because we paid our
$12 to see the black and blueBlue Oyster Cult.
Scott (22:38):
Yeah, great hype.
Jack (22:40):
We were like ugh most of the show and across town for $7,
Ray Charles was playing.
Scott (22:46):
Right, right, yeah, but that was one of those.
Again, you paid $12 to see it,but I really only went to see
Don't Fear the Reaper.
It's a great live song.
Yeah, and they do it for likefucking.
They did it for like 10 minutes.
Jack (23:05):
Yes.
Scott (23:06):
And it was really.
I mean, that's just so.
I paid 12 bucks to see that.
Oh, and I'm burning, I'mburning.
I'm burning because of you.
That's a great song.
Burning for you, no, because ofyou.
Said that to a couple of girls.
Burning for you because of youSaid that to a couple girls over
in the Philippines Get out ofhere.
(23:26):
I did in the Philippines, butthat's not right.
So wait a minute.
So wait a minute.
Jack (23:33):
Before you get too far away from it.
You have a different opinion onSpringsteen and him calling out
the Donald.
Scott (23:41):
I say you say what you want inside the country, but
when you go to another countryand you badmouth the president
and you badmouth the country andyou're there as an entertainer,
you're there as an entertainer,okay.
That's where you're out ofbounds.
Don't go outside the family.
You can talk all the shit youwant in country.
(24:01):
That's why a lot of peopledon't like Bonner.
You can talk all the shit youwant in country.
That's why a lot of peopledon't like Bonner.
You don't even fucking.
You weren't born here.
I don't know if he's anAmerican citizen.
Jack (24:11):
No.
Scott (24:12):
So he's got that never-ending green card or the
work visa, the work visa, but no, I don't think there is such a
thing as in country or out ofcountry.
Jack (24:27):
Anymore there is.
There is, you know the themedia is.
So you know global with the,you know web and everything,
regardless of where he said thatit would have been, you know
top story not.
Scott (24:37):
If he said it here in in like fucking new jersey he might
have.
If he did it in Oklahoma he'dget booed.
That's why they don't do ithere, Because he doesn't want to
.
He knew over there he couldplay up to all of that.
I don't know, I'm telling you,and that he didn't really get
such a great response from whatI heard, from what I listened to
(24:59):
.
Jack (24:59):
But I don't.
Do you really think he caresabout the response?
Scott (25:03):
No, because he's fucking 80 years old.
He's got $750 million in thebank.
Jack (25:10):
But what does he get out of it?
When was the last timeSpringsteen was in the news?
Scott (25:15):
Yeah, exactly, but there's other ways to get into
the news.
Apparently not, well, there is,but he just decided look, it is
him.
Denaro and bono.
They're fucking old liberalsand I don't want to get off into
this because this is a musicshow, nothing worse than an old,
fucking liberal.
And if you, I'm sorry, ifyou're listening and I insulted
(25:37):
you, but I'm using those threeas a, as a, as a, as a wait,
wait.
Jack (25:43):
You softened your comment.
You said there's nothing worsethan an old liberal.
Scott (25:47):
Yeah, well, old rock star liberal, I'll say that you know
, or movie star, or hollywhatever, like I don't know if
they're trying to be relevant,they're not doing it the right
way.
But and they don't care aboutthe money.
They don't care.
Bono doesn't care about themoney.
Bono doesn't care about themoney.
Bruce Springsteen doesn't careabout the money.
He wouldn't have done thatfucking 40 years ago because his
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record company would have hitthe fucking roof.
Jack (26:13):
But look what happened to the Dixie Chicks.
Scott (26:15):
What they care about is relevance, relevance yeah, and
they're hanging on to the wrongstring.
They can be relevant and stillput out and not be political in
another country, like I said.
So I'm not for it.
(26:36):
Don't go outside the family,just don't go outside the family
.
Keep it in-house, say all youwant in-house, but it's not a
good look when you go to anothercountry.
Jack (26:47):
So wait a minute, using your logic, if he had made that
statement in New York or Floridaor Minnesota or wherever, you
would have been okay with it.
Scott (26:58):
Well, I wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't be
upset about it.
I'd be like this fucking guy.
You know, look at this, like DeNiro, here we go again.
You know, here we go again.
But you go to another country,you go outside the family.
You know, it's like you goingon another podcast and
badmouthing me.
That's fucking wrong.
(27:19):
I've heard you do that too.
It might happen.
All those podcasts that you'reasked to be on.
Jack (27:27):
I might actually badmouth you on a different podcast
almost as soon as I finish mydrum solo.
Scott (27:37):
So, no, not a big fan of that.
But again, they don't need themoney, so they don't care.
At this point, now it's allabout.
I'm just going to say what Iwant, because they live in their
bubble and they're all.
I don't know.
What's Bono worth?
Has Bono?
Has he reached worth a billiondollars yet?
Jack (27:53):
I think if he's not, he's really close Right.
Scott (27:56):
And Springsteen sold whatever part of his catalog for
I don't know what 500 million.
Jack (28:06):
Almost as much as you're going to make when you sell this
podcast.
Scott (28:09):
I would never sell this podcast.
Hey, mark Maron.
Mark Smith sent me a text theother day.
Mark Maron's podcast.
It was every Monday for thepast 16 years and he finally
said he's hanging it up.
Jack (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said, but he's hanging it up, yeah,
yeah.
Yeah, he said, but he's Fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fuck, fuck,
fuck.
That has made him a householdname to a certain extent anyway.
I mean, he has been incredibly,incredibly successful and his
podcast is really good.
He's a very good interviewer.
Scott (28:42):
Marc Maron.
If you want to see mark maronat his fucking best, comedy wise
, on netflix there's a show andit's real, it's actually a
really good show.
It's called glow gloriousladies of wrestling and it's
based on a true story and heplays like one of the guys that
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runs the whole organization.
And I'm telling you, dude, it's, it's, there's great storylines
in it.
If you've never watched it andyou're listening, watch it on
netflix.
It's called glow, I think.
There's two seasons, threeseasons, great characters, but
mark maron is the fucking anchorto that show, absolutely.
(29:23):
And the girl that he plays offshe plays off him, he plays off
her, plays it perfectly, theperfect chemistry.
But Marc Maron at his best isin that show called Glow.
So, speaking of Netflix earlier, what do you got?
You look like you're readingsomething.
Jack (29:40):
Deborah and I actually went and saw Marc Maron a couple
of weeks ago do his stand-up inPortsmouth.
He was hilarious.
Oh, yeah, just that dry Verygood, no, what I was looking at,
I was just curious.
So, depending upon which siteyou subscribe to, bono is worth
anywhere between $700 and $900million.
Scott (30:00):
Yeah, so you were right.
If he's not, he's close.
Jack (30:04):
The majority of his wealth coming from.
Scott (30:08):
Concerts Facebook.
What, oh, he bought stock inFacebook.
Jack (30:14):
He bought stock in Facebook very, very early.
Scott (30:18):
Since you're on that, what is the net worth of Alanis
Morissette?
What do you think it is?
Jack (30:29):
I bet you it's $65 million .
Scott (30:32):
I'd say it's over $100.
Jack (30:35):
Nope, at least according to two sources, it's $60 million
, really Okay.
How about Carly Simon?
Scott (30:44):
Carly Simon's net worth is probably about $30 million
$80 million.
Wow, all those Greatest Hitsalbums that she puts out $80
million, $80 million.
And she made all that off theseven Greatest Hits albums that
she put out.
That just rearranged songs.
Jack (31:04):
It says Scott as of 2024, carly Simon's net worth is
estimated around $80 million.
This wealth primarily stemsfrom her successful music career
, including album sales, concerttours and royalties.
Scott (31:20):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yosovane probably made afucking 60 of that 80.
And good for her.
Lookit, I love her music.
I hope don't get me wrong.
I love Carly Simon's music.
Carly Simon, as I've said fromday one.
It always creeps out Mark Smith, greatest mouth in the history
(31:41):
of music, right, not today.
She looks like I think if herand Steven Tyler was sitting
next to each other, you'd thinkthey're twins.
It's kind of weird.
Jack (31:52):
Scott, what's your middle name?
Scott (31:53):
Robert.
Jack (31:55):
Just for shits and giggles .
I typed in Scott McClain's networth.
Oh, and something came up.
It said scott j mclean's networth is estimated to be at
least 3.51 million dollars.
He owned shares in companiessuch as zion's bion corporation
national I don't care aboutscott j.
Scott (32:12):
I don't care about him.
Jack (32:13):
Yeah, so you know you'll, you'll be on, you'll be on here
sooner or later.
Well, I mean scott mclean has amoderate moderate.
Scott McClain has a moderatenet worth, but he's got a lot of
hot sauce from his podcastbusiness from sponsorships.
Scott (32:34):
All my money comes from sponsorships.
I've not gotten one penny frommy net worth isn't anything
close to yours, Jack.
Let's not get into that.
Jack (32:48):
Hey, I don't have a pinball machine in my man room.
Scott (32:50):
Damn right, you don't.
And a life-size Iron man.
Jack (32:53):
And a life-size Iron man.
Scott (32:55):
And a life-size Hulk and a life-size Spider-Man.
Jack (32:58):
Yeah.
Scott (32:59):
Yeah, no, you don't.
Jack (33:01):
No, I don't.
Scott (33:05):
My net worth with just these statues is more than you.
Look, I want to pull this up, Iwant to pull something up here.
There we go, let's see.
Let's see if this works.
Jack (33:16):
Dave Phillips, Chicago at the Heinz in the early 70s
fourth row, $4.50 per ticket.
My first Aerosmith concert wasthe Rock Store.
It was $6.50.
Really, First time.
Scott (33:35):
I saw Springsteen it was $13.50,.
I want to say Get rid of that.
Let's see, I'm going to addsomething here.
I want you to see this.
Jack (33:43):
I don't think I paid more than $18 to see Queen.
Scott (33:47):
Queens.
The more I look at Queenscatalog, I don't know what the
fucking big hype was.
They have fucking eight goodsongs.
All right, here we go, charlieSimon, all right.
Rock legends heartbroken overmusical instruments stolen in
(34:08):
Atlantic City.
The rock band Heart is offeringa reward for two vintage
musical instruments that werereportedly stolen as they
prepared to launch their latesttour in Atlantic City.
Fucking New Jersey, thosefucking people.
Guitarist Nancy Wilson claimedin a post on Instagram that the
irreplaceable instruments werestolen from their setup prior to
(34:31):
their show on May 31st at theHard Rock Hotel and Casino Now
number one.
There's a problem here.
If you have fuckingirreplaceable instruments, if
you got that kind of fuckinginstruments in your heart and
you have all that fucking moneyyou don't have like security,
like you don't.
That doesn't go with your bullcrew, with your roadies.
(34:58):
Custom-built, one-of-a-kindpurple-sparkled baritone
telecaster with a hand-paintedheadstock, crafted specifically
for Nancy Wilson.
According to her post onInstagram, also taken was a
vintage 1966 Gibson EM-50mandolin that band member Paul
(35:20):
Moak has played for over 25years.
Jack (35:23):
Yes, but do you have an update to this story, because
they actually arrested somebody.
Scott (35:27):
Did they?
I don't have the update now.
Jack (35:29):
It says Tell me the rest of the story Paul Harvey.
At Lee.
Atlantic Police saysurveillance video initially led
them to a 57-year-oldPleasantville man.
He was later seen on videowalking through various parts of
the city trying to sell theinstruments instruments and he
eventually sold one, while theother remains unaccounted for,
police said declining furthercomment.
(35:50):
The man has been charged withburglary and theft.
Does mark smith live?
Scott (35:55):
I was just gonna say that .
Fucking mark smith.
Ah man, that's the first personI thought of.
Leo haskell, hottest workingman in show business, checked in
.
Mark Smith Ah man, that's thefirst person I thought of.
Leo Haskell, hottest workingman in show business, checked in
.
Yep yeah, mark Smith from theMusic Relish podcast.
I heard their episode last week.
They were talking somethingabout a guitar.
(36:16):
I didn't really get it.
They were very cryptic.
So it's either him or PerryDedevich.
I don't know, lou lives inSouth Carolina or North Carolina
.
Jack (36:31):
Yeah, you have to imagine a band like Heart that's been
around for a long time.
Scott (36:44):
Almost any instrument that they're bringing out on the
road is going to be vintage andworth a fortune because of the
affiliation with Hart?
Jack (36:49):
Yeah, I guess.
So yeah, absolutely, wow, allright, good, add on there, scott
, that was fantastic what I'magreeing with you.
Scott (36:56):
You want me to say no.
What do you want me to say tothat?
Jack (36:59):
You just had a little Ed McMahon moment.
Scott (37:01):
Yes, yeah, you are correct sir.
Jack (37:05):
Yes absolutely.
Scott (37:07):
Let me see Mark Smith.
There he is.
He's trying to not be culpablehere.
Why would she bringirreplaceable guitars on the
road?
Jack (37:16):
Because Perry Lightfingers Perry.
Scott (37:18):
Lightfingers, perry Denovich, the AI Perry.
Jack (37:28):
Lightfingers.
Scott (37:32):
That's right up there and I got to tell this story.
That just reminded me ofsomething.
So our friend Phil Kelly, right, El Rey as I call him, he was
at church one day and he tellsme this story because he's a
good Catholic boy and he's atchurch.
He says the guy in front of himhas on a pair of loafers with
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the rubber soles and Phil, likehe's standing behind the guy,
he's looking like he's trying toget the guy's attention.
The guy turns around and Philvery, very lightly says he says
nice, crime shoes.
And points at the guy's shoesCrime shoes.
(38:17):
Because you can't, a 400 poundman can be walking in a pair of
those shoes and you're not goingto hear him.
It was like they made him likethat gum rubber.
Right, you got a little springin your bounce in your step,
yeah, so that happened.
(38:39):
And again, why would they bringthat shit on the road?
Jack (38:45):
And not have it protected.
That's what they do.
I mean well, not having itprotected, that's a whole other
story.
Scott (38:52):
Right.
Jack (38:53):
That's a whole other story .
Scott (38:55):
It's a whole other story.
Jack (38:57):
You know what I mean With those backstage areas.
There's a lot of people around,there's a lot of hangers-on.
I mean, you never know how ithappened, but it's not the first
time that we've heard anythinglike this happen.
This type of thing happens abit.
Scott (39:16):
I'm trying to find the story that.
I guess it's not there.
I guess it's not there, notthis one.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fameconcert dates.
There's a lot of concertcancellations.
Peter Gabriel, not PeterGabriel.
What's his name?
(39:38):
Peter Murphy, yeah, peterMurphy has to cancel his shows.
Jack (39:45):
He's been having a huge, huge battle with substance.
Scott (39:50):
Yeah, even at his age.
Jack (39:53):
Yeah.
Scott (39:54):
Even as Dave Mason.
Same thing.
Jack (39:57):
Can you imagine that, being that age and still
struggling with you?
Know no no, it's just no, Idon't I don't, I don't.
I don't have the um, I don'thave the, the energy for it.
I don't even drink like I usedto, just because I'm such a
pussy.
The next morning I just don'tlike feeling bad.
Did we lose Scott?
(40:19):
Did somebody steal Scott?
Scott (40:32):
So anyway, like I was saying when I was going over to
the, I went to that concert.
Were you listening to me?
Jack (40:40):
Yeah, you disappeared from the screen for a second.
No, you disappeared.
No, you disappeared.
Scott (40:43):
No, no, you disappeared.
No, you disappeared, youdisappeared.
You disappeared when.
Yeah, where'd you go?
Jack (40:52):
I didn't go anywhere.
What?
Scott (40:53):
happened?
What just happened?
What did you do?
Jack (40:57):
I don't know I didn't do anything, I'm talking and you
disappeared I didn't do nothing.
Scott (41:03):
I didn't do it.
It wasn't do it, it wasn't me.
Okay, it was.
Jack (41:07):
Where did you go?
Gf2p, it's okay.
Scott (41:11):
Big Head, todd the Wet Sprocket, just wasted no time,
no time and just jumped right inand said the show just got
better when I went off for 10seconds.
I don't think he could havetyped any faster.
Jack (41:28):
Scott, you and I have different philosophies in terms
of, like going to see concerts.
Is there anybody out therethat's touring not necessarily
really right now, but that'sstill active in terms of touring
that you haven't seen, that youwould like to see?
Scott (41:43):
Yes, and I'm skeptical about going and it's funny you
said that and you might haveheard me refer to her in the
past.
Jack (41:57):
Probably Simon.
Scott (41:57):
No, no, jessica Lee Mayfield.
I love her, but she's inconcert with Let me see.
It's like this Latin band and Idon't know the way they're
wording it, and it's at a verysmall venue in Fort Lauderdale.
(42:20):
Let me see the Culture Room.
It's in a very small venue inFort Lauderdale.
Let me see the Culture Room.
It's in a very small venue.
That's where I saw the churchwith Phil Kelly and it doesn't
say if she's on her own doingher own thing or if she's with
them.
It kind of hints that she'skind of with them, jessica Lee
(42:43):
Mayfield.
So I'd like to go see her, butwith Lucero.
Lucero is the.
It's at the Culture Room onSeptember 7th, lucero
L-U-C-E-R-O with Jessica LeeMayfield.
How do you perceive that?
How do you take that?
Jack (43:04):
Have you ever heard the band Lucero?
Scott (43:06):
No.
Jack (43:07):
They're actually really good.
Scott (43:08):
Really, they've been around for a while.
Jack (43:10):
They've been around for a while.
Scott (43:11):
Yeah.
Jack (43:13):
Are they opening or is she opening?
Scott (43:15):
It just says Lucero, Lucero, Lucero, however you
pronounce it, celebrating 20years of Nobody's Darlings with
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
So I'm thinking like she's withthem, like she's playing with
them.
I don't know, man.
I should just call the venue.
Jack (43:34):
Either that or go onto their website.
You should be able to get some.
Scott (43:37):
I went on hers and it just she has solo stuff but
she's not coming around here.
And then it just says so thatanswers the question and why I'm
supposed to be on that side.
Why are you on my side?
There you go.
Don't do that to me again.
For the listeners on thepodcast I just switched our
screens because I don't like itdoes.
Jack (44:00):
Why do you care it does?
Because I'm the host.
Why do you care?
Scott (44:02):
Because does because I'm the host.
Why do you care?
Why?
Because I'm the one thatcontrols the controls.
I'm the controller of thecontrols.
That's all there is to it.
Yeah, that's right.
Shake your head, put your handsup, throw your hands up in the
air, dance around like you justdon't care.
That's so funny, that's so.
(44:22):
Do you get your window open?
Looks like you got a windowopen over there.
Yeah yeah, all that smog.
It's like what the fuck.
Jack (44:31):
Dude, I live in New Hampshire.
Scott (44:33):
There isn't any smog up here.
There's smog there.
There's liberal smog.
Jack (44:38):
In New Hampshire.
Scott (44:41):
Oh, I got some inside information on something that's
going to try to swing NewHampshire.
What is that?
I'm not going to tell you onthe air.
Jack (44:50):
What.
Scott (44:50):
Real insider information.
Jack (44:53):
Like.
Scott (44:54):
I'm just saying, I know people who know things, who know
other people.
Jack (44:59):
Okay.
Scott (45:00):
Who are involved with things.
Is that right?
That's all I'm going to say.
That's all I'm going to say.
Jack (45:04):
Yeah, I mean, look, the window is open, there's a chance
that you may hear the traingoing by.
Scott (45:09):
I missed the train.
Jack (45:11):
You may or you may not hey speaking of.
You know what was the name ofthe woman that you asked?
Scott (45:17):
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
Jack (45:19):
Jessica Lee Mayfield.
I just got tickets to LolaYoung.
Scott (45:23):
Yeah, you were saying that.
Yeah, is she, are you?
Are you on her?
Is she coming around here atall?
That was a long way to say isshe coming around here?
If you can look, I can tell youin a second.
I started and stammered becauseshe's so hot not really, yeah,
but she owns it.
I give it to the girl.
(45:43):
I give it to the girl.
I give it to the girl.
I like her.
I introduced you to heractually, or amused her.
No, you didn't.
Oh, I did.
Oh, I did.
I set the video.
I can prove it on my text.
No, that's not true.
Jack (45:53):
I can't, I can't, that's absolutely not true.
Yeah, yeah.
Scott (45:57):
She.
Jack Smith ratting me out.
Scott, you disappeared.
Come on, man Don't Anyway Wiz,I need Perry.
Jack (46:06):
I think the closest she's coming to you is Atlanta.
Yeah, I don't want to go there.
Fuck Atlanta.
She's playing a small venue.
In Boston.
She's playing the Roadrunner,which is not tiny, but it's not
huge either.
Scott (46:22):
Right, where is it located?
Jack (46:25):
It's right in Boston.
Scott (46:26):
Like all right, asshole, we're in Boston.
Boston's a good size.
There's a lot of places Likewhat area of?
Jack (46:34):
Boston, just going past like Fenway Park, towards like
Alston.
Scott (46:39):
Okay, all right, yeah, all right.
Jack (46:43):
So the place actually believe it or not, even though
it's kind of a warehousey clubthing, it actually has a bigger
capacity than the Orpheum it's3,500.
How long has that place beenaround?
Uh, 2022.
Scott (46:59):
That's it, huh, for some reason, I don't know the.
Jack (47:01):
Roadrunner is a concert venue in Brighton.
Scott (47:04):
Brighton.
Yeah, well, you said Austin.
It's the same thing really.
Jack (47:09):
Yeah, since opening on March 15th 2022.
Roadrunner has been the largestgeneral admission concert venue
in New England wow, generaladmission, that's interesting
the venue is named after what'sthe name of the room?
Scott (47:26):
jonathan richmond's.
Yeah jonathan richmond, youknow what I was gonna joke
around and say does jonathanrichmond own that?
Jack (47:33):
he doesn't own it, and I'm gonna say that he does.
He doesn't own it.
Scott (47:37):
I don't know if he's ever been there and he could not
fill it he could not fill itespecially, but maybe the guy
that posed as him could fill it.
Jack (47:48):
Now, maybe if the modern lovers were playing that, that
might be.
Scott (47:53):
What?
What?
Roadrunner, roadrunner, goingfaster by an hour, going faster
by an hour?
You know a fucking great song?
That's a King of Facebook song.
Right there, that was like anopening to the King of Facebook.
(48:14):
That's a song.
Right there, roadrunner,roadrunner, let me see.
Let's get one more article andthen I'll let you go.
The beautiful Dr Vera just gothome a little while ago and well
, she's prettier to look at thanyou are.
I have surviving members of aniconic 70s rock band return with
(48:38):
new music video.
Let's see what this mess isabout.
Jack (48:43):
So talking heads, I don't know, let's see.
Scott (48:44):
Let's see what this mess is about.
So talking heads?
I don't know, let's see.
Let's see what it is.
I'm going to pull it up on thescreen Over here.
Media let's see what we got.
Jack (48:57):
I bet it was the talking heads.
Scott (48:58):
You think?
No, I don't think so.
They will never get backtogether again.
Alice Cooper and survivingbandmate guitarist Michael Bruce
, bassist Dennis Dunaway anddrummer Neil Smith dropped a new
music video for the single WildOnes oh boy.
Inspired by the iconic 1953film the Wild Ones starring
(49:20):
Marlon Brando, the trackcaptures the same defiant spirit
that once shocked middleAmerica and defined a generation
that's not so far off.
Alice Cooper was a they were adefining band in the 70s.
Jack (49:37):
But, in my defense, announced today there was a big
tease by the talking heads, andthis article says.
However, fans were left alittle gutted.
After all that teasing, it wasfinally revealed that the group
were releasing a music video.
They are, they are.
Scott (49:58):
Tina Weymouth and David Byrne are going to get along, or
are they doing it for the money?
Jack (50:04):
And Jerry Harrison, who started out playing in what band
?
Scott (50:09):
Jerry Harrison started out playing in.
I'm not sure.
Jack (50:14):
You were just playing them .
Scott (50:18):
Oh, the Modern Lovers.
Jack (50:20):
He was in the Modern Lovers, all right.
Well, let's do this.
Scott (50:21):
I don't know if you two won't, let me do it.
The Modern Lovers he was in theModern Lovers.
Jack (50:26):
All right Well let's do this.
Scott (50:27):
I don't know.
If YouTube won't let me do it,They'll give me a strike if I
play the video.
The Alice Cooper Group wasformed in the early 1960s.
Yada, yada, yada, so I don'tknow.
That means they're probablygoing to go on tour.
Jack (50:41):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Scott (50:43):
Would you go see Alice Cooper?
Jack (50:45):
Sure.
Scott (50:46):
Really.
Jack (50:47):
Yeah, but you know what it's like you and I were talking
about the other day.
It depends.
It depends where, it dependshow much you know.
Like if they were playing downin Boston somewhere and the
tickets were reasonable and itwas a Wednesday night, I'd go.
Scott (51:07):
No, no, no, I don't know.
Just go see the HollywoodVampires.
I would see them too.
I would see the HollywoodVampires, just because it's a
good combination of people.
And I like Johnny Depp.
As crazy as he is, I likeJohnny Depp.
I love how.
You know what I love about thatand you see this like when.
(51:28):
What's his name?
The dude that played ForrestGump, the actor, you know his
name, the guy that playedForrest Gump.
Jack (51:41):
Tom Hanks no.
Scott (51:44):
No.
Jack (51:45):
The guy that played Forrest Gump, tom Hanks no,
billy Bob Thornton.
Scott (51:48):
No, not Forrest Gump, I'm sorry.
Sling Blade, carl, I like them.
French fry potatoes, they got.
They get these bands and likeJohnny Depp goes like way
overboard with the fucking.
The band Dan is like theyreally dress rock, like rock
(52:08):
star stuff and I'm like a littleoverkill but okay, like that
shit was good in like the 80s,but they love it, they have fun
you know, hold on to it.
Jack (52:20):
They hold on to the.
Scott (52:21):
They're trying to stay relevant evidently, johnny Depp
isn't a bad guitarist either.
Jack (52:26):
No, he's a pretty good.
He knows what he's doing, hecan play.
Scott (52:29):
Well, you're out on the road with Keith Richards and a
few other band members that comeand go.
Hey, you're going to learnsomething.
Absolutely.
You better fucking learnsomething.
Hey, how do you feel aboutAaron Rodgers Going to?
Jack (52:43):
Pittsburgh.
Good luck, absolutelyDefinitely you better, you
better fucking learn something.
So hey, how?
Scott (52:47):
do you feel about Aaron Rodgers going to Pittsburgh?
Good luck, good fucking luck.
Good what's he?
Do you know what?
Jack (52:53):
Terry.
Scott (52:53):
Bradshaw said Get rid of him.
What are you wasting your timeon that guy?
For he's a loser, like heripped him.
He ripped him, he goes.
What are you doing?
You got this guy who's bouncedaround.
He's a flake, he's a lunatic,he's all the conspiracy, blah,
blah.
Terry Bradshaw ripped him up,man, yeah, hey, what's he going
to do there?
(53:13):
Right, nothing for one year.
It's going to be a big year forthe Patriots, though.
I'll tell you what you think.
So it's gonna be a big year forthe Patriots, though I'll tell
you what.
This is an exciting team, yes,yes, drake May and Josh
McDaniels coming back.
He's got Tom Brady all overagain.
He gets to mold this kid,although Tom Brady was molded by
(53:35):
Charlie Weiss, but JoshMcDaniel also won three Super
Bowls with them too.
So you know, um and Drake May,he's the real deal.
So, oh, what just happened?
How'd my camera move?
See that, let me see.
Let me see.
Does it do this?
Let me see something.
Ah, look at that, see.
Jack (53:55):
Look at you Extreme close-up.
Scott (53:58):
Yeah, I am a handsome bastard, look at me, yeah, you
are At 61,.
I'm still a handsomemotherfucker.
Jack (54:07):
You're a beautiful man.
Scott (54:09):
I don't know, I can't keep this.
I don't know how to make it gobackwards.
Jack (54:18):
Go back like this Imagine how sexy you'd look if you were
wearing a bandana.
Scott (54:22):
I'm sexy and I know it.
All right, look my camera'slosing control.
Let's call this a night, buddy.
We're coming up on an hour,jack, you know I love you, buddy
.
I thank you for all yoursupport during.
Look at my fucking camera.
Come on, what's going on?
What the hell's going on here?
Mark Smith, liverpool won thePremier League this year.
(54:44):
Perry Dinovich, perryLightfingers.
Perry Lightfingers commented inAlice Cooper, probably at the
Sphere in Vegas.
Jack (55:00):
You know who Deb and I are waiting to see at the Sphere.
This is my prediction at somepoint.
Radiohead, oh okay, oh yeah,you don't give a shit.
No, no, no, that would be great.
Scott (55:14):
Let me know I'll be the third wheel in that party.
Jack (55:18):
All right.
Scott (55:19):
I'll go to Vegas.
I got friends in Vegas you gotfriends everywhere.
Jack (55:23):
I do everywhere.
Scott (55:23):
I do, I do and Jefferson Orama says Johnny Depp is great.
He is, he is.
When I first retired in 2019,that fucking Amber Heard Johnny
Depp trial that was myentertainment for like three
months.
It was fucking great.
It was great.
(55:44):
My camera's all fucking crazynow.
All right, let's wrap this upLike I was saying I was getting
all it's moving.
Jackie boy, I love you again.
Thank you for all your supportduring my tough times and thanks
for coming back on the show.
Maybe we'll have you back nextweek if you're around.
Jack (56:04):
I'm going to be in Newport next week.
Scott (56:07):
All right.
Well, I'm going to be doingmusic news next week.
This fucking camera is drivingme crazy.
Jack (56:13):
Good, night everybody.
Scott (56:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, everybody, like I said,thank you for watching, Thanks
for listening.
If you liked it, share it.
If you didn't.
Well, thanks for watching for58 minutes and listening for 58
minutes and 40 seconds.
Now, like I say, you are theengine that runs this machine.
This camera's driving me crazy.
It's on its own auto thing.
It's like motion sensor kickedin.
And like I always say, to quotemy favorite artist, Morrissey,
(56:39):
doing this show for you, thepleasure, the privilege is mine.
I got to go way down here andfollow you and I will be back
next week.
Jack won't, but Jack will maybebe back in a couple weeks.
So, all right, buddy, I'll talkto you soon.
Jack (56:52):
Be good.
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