August 14, 2025 • 35 mins
Eddie and Justin need a break from the negativity. So they discuss good news, personal accomplishments, favorite music, and Justin's immaculate Cheech Marin impression.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eddie, have you I ever actually showed you my California
Mexican voice?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
No, Welcome to MMHC, your go to mental health podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm Eddie Coreo, a licensed professional counselor.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And I'm Justin Romano, a Board certified Child and Adolescent psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We created MMHC to give listeners evidence based information directly
from professionals who work in mental health.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're not influencers, We're not trying to sell you anything.
We just want to bring love, empathy, and understanding of
mental health into this world.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And we really think that learning about mental health should
be fun, interesting, and most importantly honest.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So thanks for tuning in. This is a show by
two millennials, but it is intended to be for everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We hope you enjoy the show.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
MMHC is a production of Speaker from iHeartMedia.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I HEARTMA. Let's hear it. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hey, hey Holmes, welcome back from MMHC. Do A destination
for this was pretty bad? Am I gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You? Ever watched the Spike Kids? You sound like, Uh,
which one's cheach and which one's charm?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Cheech is the Mexican guy Latino. Yeah, he's in Spike Kids. Yeah,
who else is in it? Uh? Machete Danny, Danny Tray.
That's damn well.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The fact that you immediately thought of Cheach tells me
that I did something right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Sure, too offensive, I mean, that's up to you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Hey, I've got one Mexican guy on board with.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It, so I think it's kind of funny. But that's
exactly what I thought you were gonna do. I just
need you to know that that's exactly where I thought
it was going. Oh, you got me sweating. I don't
know what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I told you I was gonna take a bit of
a hail Mary on this one before we started the episode,
you know, because I like doing voices, but I'm always
so nervous doing any non white voices. But you know,
I figured we're gonna do it a fun episode today,
a positive episode to figure.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So welcome back to MMHC.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Summer break's done. We took a little break. Yeah we're busy, guys.
We got stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's been a busy summer. Yeah, we've we've been busy.
Me and my wife have had like something planned every
weekend for the past two and a half months and
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm tired. Hell yeah, bro, you got something else tomorrow,
so you're yeah, you guys are staying busy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, going to Vegas tomorrow. Backstreet Boys, Baby.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's do it. Fucking cool. The videos I've seen of
it that like it. It's crazy how much like music
can like just lodge itself in your brain somewhere. There's
songs that I haven't thought about in in forever, but
then I'm watching people's videos or I'm watching tiktoks or
the performances, and the words come back and I'm like,
holy shit, like I haven't thought about this in so long. Man.
(03:13):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, we're pretty excited. We've actually tried to intentionally not
watch the videos so that it's all gonna be one
big superse.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did you did you already say on the on the
recording where it's at, or like what it's.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
In the sphere, in the sphere, it's gonna be cool
first time there. We're really excited.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so I'll see you there. Yeah, I'll check tickets
while we record this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It would be so funny just the fog comes up
and then Eddie comes in and out of nowhere, dressed
in all white.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think I have enough clothes. That's all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What I had to buy clothes that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Was my white jeans are at the dry cleaner. Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, we are talking positivity today, just because it feels
like we've been kind of downers lately. We've been talking
a lot about some heavy stuff about some things going
on in the country and politics, and we're like, you
know what, we just need a palette cleanser. So we
chewed on some ginger. We wrote up this this episode script.
(04:21):
But it also brings up a really good point that
in our lives in twenty twenty five, our phones give
us a constant stream of negative information, and plus we
get a constant stream of bad news from the twenty
four hour news cycle. It's because negativity sells, and it's
what gets the most views, it's what gets the most
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eyes on it. So we wanted to take some time
to be intentionally positive, a little lighthearted, maybe even a
little bit, you know, borderline racist with the cheech Marin impression.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is that his last name, cheech Marin? Yeah, cheech Marine
If you will, I just let it even know I
had a full name. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He just thought he was Cheech.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh, he's like Chare.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He just has one name, Cheech.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's crazy because he he's been in like speaking of
like Mexican American h He was in Spy Kids, right, which,
like now looking back, was a very Latino movie, like
the whole the whole cast is like super Latino Antonio. Yeah,
I can't remember who the wife was. That's okay, we
need yeah who was it anyway? Yeah, like but Cheech
(05:29):
was in there. She was also a character on the
George Lopez show.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah Grandpa right, yeah, uh no.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He he was the who George and Benny thought could
be his dad around the same time. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, yeah,
random random, let's see him throughout like media and stuff
growing up.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Even in researching this show, I even tried to like google, hey,
what's some like positive news stories, and you know, all
of the stuff that came up was just like fluff pieces,
like stuff that wasn't really like positive good news of
things going on in this world. It was like, watch
this video of this hippo being sassy at the zoom
and it was like, okay, like give me some real
(06:15):
good news here, but it looks like like you found
some good ones even in the world of psychology.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, let me run through some positive stories in the
psych world. In the psychology world. So the first one
I found was that there's a school in India that
has been incorporating daily positive affirmations to help build student
emotional strength and focus. So they do this altogether every
morning before school starts. The next thing I found was
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that the twenty twenty five World Happiness Report from Oxford's
well Being Research Center, it's a long one, emphasizes the
psychological benefits of communal dining. So Sharon meals is strongly
correlated with better mental and physical health, stronger social bonds,
and lower instances of depression. I have a friend Tim,
(07:02):
who is a chef, and he I remember him mentioning
this like a while ago, like how much like food,
Not this specifically, but just like kind of in passing
we're talking about something. He just mentions, how like sharing
a meal together is like one of the most important
things you can do. So it's kind of cool to
hear this from Oxford's well Being Research Center. There's also
research published in the Social Psychological and Personality Science that found,
(07:26):
after following university students for three years that engaging and
meaningful face to face interactions and hence well being and
reduced loneliness. So in a world where a lot of
us are on our phones, speaking of which a lot
of stags, do you know that thirty one states have
implemented some type of legislature or law with cell phone bands,
(07:47):
either starting this school year or the next school year.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yay thirty one.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, at least from the Google search I did the
other day. But yeah, like thirty one, yeah, I mean
so yeah, I mean, in a world where we're in
our phones a lot. I was at the doctor's office
the other day and I got there a little early,
and I checked in and all that, and I was
waiting for them to call me and or call me back,
and I had this I was like, I'm just gonna
(08:14):
try to sit here without my phone. And I tried to.
It's kind of hard, man, Like, I'm I'm not much
better than anybody else. It is tough. So anyway, and
in a world where we're in our phones a lot,
face to face meaningful interactions can be really helpful. And
then the last one was that every day spontaneous pro
social acts, so things like helping the neighbor helping someone
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in need. Just just being kind to people around you
have been found to boost emotional well being. And this
is more than scheduled things. So if like, oh, I
was already going to go do this for my family
member or for my friend, it's helpful. But just doing
things like spontaneously has been shown to be good for
your emotional well being, which I think is cool. Random
maxim kindness, Yeah for.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Sure, ding your like good deed for the day. Yeah,
I like you point of how you tried to sit
there and not use your phone. Doesn't that just show
how much our brains have become rewired to do it
all the time, to crave that phone. Like I noticed
that if there's any space, if there's any time where
I'm not doing anything, my automatic reaction is grab the phone,
(09:19):
grab the phone.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
With our school doing the cell phone band this year
and be wanting to try to be a good staff member,
I've already I don't know if I mentioned this to
you or on the show, but I I bought these
little like almost like what detectives would use, like a
little flip book where you just write notes. I bought
it because usually I'm out there with my phone and
(09:41):
I'll like look at my phone to pass the time
or whatever when sudents you're passing. But sometimes the kid
will ask me like, hey, can you help me with this?
Or can I check in with you later or whatever,
and I pull out my phone, put a reminder on
my calendar. Cool, good to go. I'm going to try
to not have my phone in me. So I bought
these little books so that I could write the notes
down and then I'm just gonna leave my phone in
(10:02):
my office and we'll go nice. So, yeah, we're gonna try. Man,
it's gonna be. I've seen a lot on the TikTok.
A lot of kids have gone back to school this
week different states, and I'm seeing a lot of reactions
from teachers and from teens just posting on social on
TikTok of like I hate it, this is the greatest
(10:22):
thing ever. This is the worst we'll see. I don't
know it's gonna be. It's gonna be something I was
like asking my patients on my young kids.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm just like, hey, are you really excited to go
back to school? Kind of sarcastically, And I don't think
I've had maybe one say like yeah, I love school.
Most of them are like, no, I don't want to
go back.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you know if Colorado or Wyoming are doing any
kind of cell phone rulings?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Definitely not in Wyoming, but I'm not sure about Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know which one was interesting that I was a
little surprised by. It was Texas. Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh, in Colorado, school districts are required to implement policies
limiting students cell phone use by July twenty twenty six,
So it's coming not this year, but.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thirty one states man. That's wild, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think it just got to a critical mass, like
it was just such a big problem that something had
to break.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah. I think it's one of those where like we
can start off really strict with our rules or with
you know, whatever we're going to do, and then if
we want to pay it back, we can. But it's
harder to, like like we've kind of been doing, start
with something that's a little more lax, and then try
to like ramp it up. You get the reactions that
we're getting now. But I think if we would have
started a little more strict and then try to pull
it back, maybe it would be easier on the youths.
(11:42):
But it is what it is. We'll give it full youths.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, get the cats out of the bag. And you
look at everywhere. It's got different numbers and different sources.
And if the cell phone companies just were honest with
us and told us what the numbers were, we would
get more accurate data. But most accurate. It looks like
kids are on their phones average about eight hours per.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Day, Yeah, which is a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Which is a lot, and a lot of them when
you talk about them, surprisingly a lot of them are
saying like, I'd like to be on it less. I
would like to not have to be on this all
the time. So some of them are okay with some
of the screen limits of not being able to use
them in school. Yeah, So we got some discussion questions
for today, keeping with the positive theme, what's something positive
(12:24):
going on right now? Just again your personal life.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We'll go back to work next week. I say it
as a positive because I've kind of been ready to
go back to work all summer, after like two or
three weeks. And again, I had that doctor's appointment recently,
and I told the doctor and I've talked about it before.
I'm just someone who kind of runs anxious. We just
kind of have a little bit of a hard time
if I don't know what's going to happen next, and
(12:48):
you get probably a little more stress than I need to.
So I'm telling the doctor this, like, oh yeah, I'm
just I've found that over the last few years, I'll
sometimes have like physical symptoms I think related to stress
and anxiety. But again, I've found that like the more
that I go to the doctor or I talk to
myself about like, oh this is just because I'm stressed,
the better it gets, and like it gets, it resolves
(13:09):
pretty quickly. So I'm telling them all this because this
is the first time seeing this doctor and he's like, okay, listening,
and I forgot how we got on the topic. He's like, okay,
so work, You're going back to work next week. Do
you think that's going to negatively impact your mental health?
And I was like, WHOA, Like, I know I say
that I'm anxious and stuff, but I love my job,
Like it's great, all the things that I enjoyed a lot.
(13:30):
It's fulfilling, it's all the things. So I think, you know,
I'm excited to go back to work. I was reflecting
on things that I get to do and that Kevin
and I do in terms of travel and things that
we do together. The trips we've taken just this summer,
the trips we've taken even the last few years together
has been awesome. I'm just getting to do that and
my adult life is something that I don't even think
(13:52):
I just thought of, So it's really cool to get
to do that stuff together. I fixed the exhaust fan
in our bathroom today. That was fucking cool. Like, I'm
so hyped about that. I texted Kevy too, I'm like,
I'm hyped. It like just kind of went out yesterday
and then I just started to kind of slowly look
up how to do it. And then I only went
to home people once, so like that's like, right, hey, yeah, yeah,
(14:15):
you get in. I don't know, just some good stuff.
It's been a good summer. Things that we get to
do as adults has been cool. All of the above,
I guess is where I'm at. But what do you got?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, but a man one trip to home depot.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's huge.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It's fun being able to like fix stuff. I think
I may have mentioned in the past that like, yeah,
my dryer went out when we were living in Omaha,
and my wife was like, either call someone or fix it.
So I was like, ah, I'll try and fix it.
And then I was like, I know nothing about dryers,
and then you start looking up on YouTube, and before
I know it, I'm like, yeah, I think the Tenser
Pulley went out and we got to order some parts.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Our washer went out a year or two ago, and
we fixed with a single piece from Amazon just by
watching videos.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Cool? Yeah? What else you got though? What else I'd
say for you? You got to talk about your personal life.
I rambled on and on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Do you fixing the bathroom fan is all the joy
I need in my life?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's loud. Yeah, this new one is prime, It's Optimus Prime.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, I would say this past weekend, I just had
a bunch of time with my family, me, my brother's family,
my parents. We got to go to Grand Lake in
Colorado and we stayed at a house and all hung
out for a couple of days. And it's just that
stuff is so good for me.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I love just.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Spending time with the family and being around people I love.
I'm really lucky that I live like fifteen minutes for
my parents. I live like ten minutes from my brother.
We're all super close. So I would say that's that's
the thing that I'm so thankful for.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's nice to be able to go on vacation with
each other and enjoy it. You hear so many people
talking about time with their family, and it's always like,
I gotta go spend time with my family.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What about professional life? What do you got going? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, is it time to break the news to.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
The mental heads?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
To the audience out here, that's what we're calling you
fans now, hope to mental head But Eddie and I
actually got an offer from a company called Sword Health
to make some mental health educational videos and so we
get to actually like fly to Portugal and go to
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their recording studio and record this. And so I'm pumped.
I get to spend some time with my good friend Eddie,
see a new play, start a new project, do something
that's totally different for us. So I'm really pumped on that.
That's probably the biggest thing going on professional wise, how
about you that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean other than that, because that's a huge thing
for us. Yeah, I mean I was on the news
again the other day talking about back to school kids
and here in the Portland area, so that was pretty cool.
I recently taken over as president of the Organ Counseling Association.
It's not my year long.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Term, so mister President.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
There's a lot of changes happening. I think we've talked
about it, but just our Medicare, Medicaid, the organ Health
Plan has made a lot of changes recently. They made
a huge change as of the thirty first of July
basically saying that they're no longer going to reimburse non
contracted providers. So basically what that means if you're not
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paneled with Oregon Health Plan for individual therapy, they're not
going to reimburse you anymore. And it's it's tough because
I think the company Care Oregon, they've made a lot
of changes six seven years ago that they were the
exception rather than the rule. They used to allow non
licensed providers to build for OHP Medicare and Medicaid. That's
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not very standard across the country. So that was kind
of a nice gesture, but it was because of the need.
And so they've made a lot of these changes and
now they're kind of going back on them, and I
won't say like going back. I think it's now time
for them to make a change. But I think the
way that they've rolled out has been really fast, and
it's hard for people because there's a lot of people
who have their providers who are maybe not contracted with
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the insurance and so we'll see. That's sorry, that's not
as positive. But I'm excited to be helping the providers
across the state just try to get things worked out.
So yeah, I think with the organ counsting association with
work and just getting to spread the words that we
know and the knowledge we have, I think has been
really cool. I mean, over the last five years, just
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to get to do that, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And that kind of work touches so many lives. It
really helps people get the therapy that they need. So
I really admire you that you're doing that and taking.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What do you feel like is the activity in life
that recharges your batteries.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The laying around and doing nothing. I think Kevin and I
are pretty good at that when we need a break.
I told Justin I've been reading a lot this summer,
so that's been super cool and helpful. Just taking breaks.
I mean, that's life goes pretty fast and sometimes we're
super go go go, So I think that take breaks
is helpful. I feel you.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm in the same boat too, where it's like over
the summer, we are just busy, busy, busy, busy, busy,
and it's nice to be able to take a break.
And specifically, I love watching old movies that I really
enjoyed growing up, so like sitting and watching The Water Boy,
watching Joe Dirt, watching ace Ventura, like all these movies
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that most adults probably wouldn't find that funny or good,
but I just loved them growing up for some reason.
It's fun to go and revisit them and just kind
of get reminded of a simpler time. That's something I
really enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
What do you like to do with your friends? You
know that thing about the communal eating, like really like
stuck out to me. Yeah, I think you know. We've
had we had friends recently, our friends Brandon Leslie, my
friends from high school. They came and visited us a
few months ago, and just get to take them out
to eat and places together and give showing them places
(20:35):
that we like to go eat. I had a friend
text me recently, I'm going to meet up with them
for coffee here soon, and I think their text was like,
you pick the place, you know all the best places
in the area. That kind of stuff is, like, Kevin,
I really like to try new places, even if it's
just the communal eatings, just me and her just trying
new places together. I think it's cool we have with
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friends too. Just again, I think I get it from Tim,
just the idea of like communal eating. We went to
LA about a year ago for a friend's wedding and
we met up with him at a restaurant that him
and his now wife used to like to go to
and they lived in LA and it was just a
bunch of us friends from high school and he was like, Hey,
do you care if I order for the table, like
if the food will be here when you get here.
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I'm like, I don't give a shit you order. I
trust you like you I trust you with food. So
that that kind of stuff, I think is one thing
I like to do with friends. We're just sitting around
and bullshit in thinking about old times. I was with
a lot of high school friends recently, and so yeah,
I think those those two things.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, it's funny how like the older you get, the
less you need to like do something. Just like sitting
around and talking with friends is like the main attraction
is the best part.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What else do you got for friends?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I also really love playing jack box games with friends.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I love plenty.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's so much fun and you get to bring out
such humor and people that you don't always get to see.
And so we've done that quite a few times where
we have friends over and we're like, okay, let's break
out the jackbox games and it's always a riot, like
to the point where you're laughing so hard that you
can barely breathe, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's a that's a grad school throwback, man.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I know when COVID hit, we didn't together with all
the optometry school kids. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I remember we play on like Cush's Xbox. He got it,
so we can play it. Well, you switched a living
by each other.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, do you have any interests that has like nothing
to do with your profession anything that people would be like, huh,
I didn't know that about you.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's that's cool that you like.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've really enjoyed reading the last few years. Yeah, ever
since I got a kindle. The books have just kind
of stacked, which has been cool and flying through them. Man, Yeah,
I think that's been cool because I think when the
summer started, I was I was behind on my goal
for the year, and now that summer's almost over, I'm
caught back up, which is quite a lot of books
to read to get caught up. But yeah, I think
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reading has been something that's been cool. I would say,
like they try new food stuff, but like as a
as a larger gentleman, I think it's pretty obvious that
I like to eat.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But everybody loves to eat too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think it's cool to try new places, especially around Beaverton,
Portland area with Kevy has it's been cool. Let's go
with those two things. Yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I am fascinated by like renewable energy videos and so
like I am constantly watching YouTube videos on solar panel technologies,
battery technologies, electric vertical takeoff and launch vehicles and like that,
like side of the cool electrification tech. I just I
(23:42):
find it fascinating And then my wife makes fun of
me all the time because I'm always like watching prefab
home videos.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You know. Okay, I forgot who told I think Kevy's
sister told her this a while back that like guys
and YouTube, they always have like the random, special interesting
that they'll watch, And that made me think of, like
my YouTube thing right now is all smooth jazz with
like a backdrop coffee shop on Beyonce Plane, because that's
(24:14):
all like read when I have that on, Yeah, we'll
watch like DJ sets they just have like oh yeah, fun,
they'll do like a barrier hip hop R and B.
And then I really like this channel called pack Hackers
where it's like all about travel stuff like gear and
things like that. So yeah, maybe those things too cool.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Who's someone you really admire?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hmm, I'll probably give the cop out answers not a
cop out, but I think my parents for sure. I
think of like every time I go back to the
Bay Area, I see how much like things have changed
and how like it's really expensive. But I think the
the lucky unfortunate part is like how much my friends
and I relate on like we all live here and
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our families live here because our immigrant parents at some
point like took a chance and just moved to Milpitas, California,
shout out Milpitas, and so like I think for them
to kind of come to this country, figure things out,
get together, have this house and life and things that
they have and do now, and they travel a bunch more.
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And even if it's just to see me and my sister,
and they have like the fridge is full of Trader
Joe stuff, which is like, we never had that shit
when we were younger. So like that's one where I'm like, well,
what the hell, But I get it. But yeah, just
to get them to get to see them kind of
live their lives and do things that they like to do,
I think it's super cool. Now.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, it's funny to see your parents go through different
stages of life as they retire, as they get older,
as the kids move out of the house, and what
they gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah. Rot.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Even before we started the episode, I was thinking about this.
I was gonna say, my mom, you know, not to
give the cop out answer of what you already said. Yeah,
but if she grew up in a household that wasn't
always the most emotionally sensitive, and instead of letting that
pull her down, she learned a lot about it. She
overcame it. It's like the movie It stops with us,
(26:09):
like she stopped that trauma and she learned from all
the mistakes of her parents instead of perpetuating a lot
of the mistakes from her parents. She's brilliant. She was
like the top of her nursing class. She really instilled
in me an admiration and a respect for women, which
I am so glad that I have. So boy, yeah,
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a big shout out to my mom. I think she's
an incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'll let you ask the next question. This one's for you, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What's something you admire about our country?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I think, even when faced with adversity, and there's still
a lot of people who don't take no for an
answer and feel like they care about the well being
of the country for people beyond them, not just for them,
but for other people. And I think that's important. It
helps me keep going. I think about like the teens
(27:08):
that we work with. Teens get a shitty rap. They
always have. I mean, our parents when they were teens,
their generation got shipped on the generation before them. When
we were teens, we got shipped on. Teens just get
shit on, for lack of a better phrase. But they
kind of keep trying to figure things out and I
think that's that's one of my favorite things about working
(27:29):
with teams. So we'll do those the younger generations always,
and then just the amount of people that don't let
bullshit stop them, because there's a lot of bullshit. What
about you Just.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The art and the music in this country and the
things that the people are capable of creating, and the
creativity that in America, we have lots of opportunities to
express ourselves through art, and I think it's such a
powerful way to change minds in a powerful way to
(28:04):
make this world a better place. So I think it's
a cool thing for us as Americans. Yeah, along those
same lines of like what music are you into right now?
Who's who your top artists?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm all over the place to music like there's there's
just so I don't know. I kevios is like you
listen to the same songs, but it's like whenever I
get some new ones on the I like to playlist
on Spotify. I kind of tend to just start from
the top and work my way down and and everything.
I think going home and going to a couple of
weddings and just hearing a lot of just like throwback music.
(28:40):
One song that's really stuck out to me recently by
Cooling the Gang Ladies night Man. That song is so good,
like it's you know a song I'm talking about right, I.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Don't know if I do if maybe if I heard.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It, but you'll have to look it up. I wouldn't
do it any justice. But like cool in the Gang. Uh,
I'm looking at my thing right now. Some Luther Van Dross.
He you know, I got him like some new addition.
I really liked some of those, like older songs that
like either I I liked when I was in high
school because I heard him, like, oh this is really good,
or I hear now like Temptations. I really like the
(29:16):
Temptations when I was younger, and like recently it's been
a TikTok sound. They used one of their songs treat
like a Lady Temptations that was good, new edition all
this stuff, but like that's been coming up. My boy
Colleeds dropping a new song tonight. I'm just yeah, just
a little bit of everything. It's kind of always been
(29:36):
what my iPod looked like back in the day.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Dude, you got great taste in music.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
All over the place. We're all over the place.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Good, especially like that old school R and B like
the Temptations and stuff that they had so much talent
and they would they were so good together.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, what'd you got to.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Top right now? Or I went on a big billy
strings kick the bluegrass artist.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And then there's a local band which I've never really
ever gotten like way into a local band, but this
band out of Greeley, Colorado, called the Burrows, and they
kick ass. They're a funk band. They're so much fun
to listen to. So as much as I can promote
the Burrows, because I think they should be on like
(30:26):
the Grammy level, like competing for Best Funk Album because
they are so talented, I just can't stop listening to him.
Like so they are so much fun. And that's the
thing I like about that kind of music and that
funk music is it just puts you in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Recently, one of the weddings that I went to, my
friend was giving me shit to Kevy like he was like,
speaking of like local band. There's a band when I
was growing up called the hold Up. They're from San Jose, California,
and they're like a white guy reggae band. I like
really liked their songs. And I don't know how he
got on the topic, but I remember my friend he
(31:07):
was like he told Kevy, he's like yeah, and he
used to talk to talk about them, like he's like,
you know, like Revolution, like like the big name reggae band,
Like yeah, they're kind of like them, but they're like
from San Jose, Like I really hyped them up back
in the day. I fucked with the hold up man,
like they they made some good jams you were speaking of,
(31:27):
like some I don't know, like some just like Vibe Music,
Lake Street Dive are you familiar with Yeah, dude, they're
like my my like Caucasian funky music man. Anyway, I
just had to shout them out too, because I really,
I don't even know what kind of music, but it's
good for sure. Have you listened to the song Hypotheticals?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I can't think of it off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Put that on, turn the speaker up, and just just
feel it. Like it's one of those songs that I
I gotta like, I gotta turn it up a little
bit when I listen to it. Nice you got it? Yeah?
Music great? Thank you? Thanks for bringing up the question,
I got to talk to music more.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Maybe we should do a whole music episode. Yeah, maybe
we should even do like best depressing songs best.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't. I don't do that though. I've never I've
never been someone that listens to sad songs when I'm sad.
I know I had friends like that growing up that
would try to get me too, but I just never
I never did that.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You think, yeah, well, how about last question, who's your
dream guest? If you get anyone on the show.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
This is gonna be sound so lame, but I promise
it's kind of cool. I think it's like for a
long time, and I even tried. I think I told
you this, like I've reached out to like their agents.
I really wanted to get either Darren Waller or Max
Crosby on the show. Ye both. Darren Waller's not a
Las Vegas Raider anymore, but Max Crosby is. But they've
(32:58):
both been very vocal about that her journey with addiction
and just how much like they've gone through rehab and
just you know they failed come back, Phil come back
like Darren Waller's story. If you've never heard, it's like
pretty intense in terms of like Georgia Tech, when he
was in college, in and out of the drug and
alcohol protocol. Same thing when he made it to the league,
(33:21):
Max Goana to rehab, So yeah, I'll go with them.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I would say Selena Gomez has always been one of
our top targets. It was what two years ago we
said she would be on in five years, so we
got time. And then I would say Jim Carrey. Jim
Carrey would be He was like a father figure growing up,
and I loved his movies. I just thought he was
the man and the funniest man on earth. And I
(33:47):
know that he's really struggled with some mental health stuff
and his mindset has changed so much, and hearing quotes
about him and he's like, you know, everyone wants money
and fame, but when you find they get it, you
realize that it's not everything. So yeah, I love that
he learned a lot throughout his life and his mindset
(34:07):
changed and he wasn't afraid to just walk away and
say like I don't want this life anymore. I think
I think that makes him a really cool and interesting person.
And I think I had mentioned a while back that
one time while I was watching The Grinch. I tried
to slide into his DMS and I was like, Hey,
watching The Grinch, think you're brilliant. Want to come on
the show. Never heard anything back. Yeah, so, Jim, if
(34:32):
you're hearing this, or if anyone knows Jim out there,
tell him. We'd love to have him.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, I think we've been smiling the whole time. So
thanks for bringing up a positive episode for us. We
needed it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
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(35:07):
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Eddie, have you I ever actually showed you my California
Mexican voice?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
No, Welcome to MMHC, your go to mental health podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm Eddie Coreo, a licensed professional counselor.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And I'm Justin Romano, a Board certified Child and Adolescent psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
And we really think that learning about mental health should
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
So thanks for tuning in. This is a show by
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
I HEARTMA. Let's hear it. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hey, hey Holmes, welcome back from MMHC. Do A destination
for this was pretty bad? Am I gonna get.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You? Ever watched the Spike Kids? You sound like, Uh,
which one's cheach and which one's charm?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Cheech is the Mexican guy Latino. Yeah, he's in Spike Kids. Yeah,
who else is in it? Uh? Machete Danny, Danny Tray.
That's damn well.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The fact that you immediately thought of Cheach tells me
that I did something right.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Sure, too offensive, I mean, that's up to you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Hey, I've got one Mexican guy on board with.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It, so I think it's kind of funny. But that's
exactly what I thought you were gonna do. I just
need you to know that that's exactly where I thought
it was going. Oh, you got me sweating. I don't
know what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I told you I was gonna take a bit of
a hail Mary on this one before we started the episode,
you know, because I like doing voices, but I'm always
so nervous doing any non white voices. But you know,
I figured we're gonna do it a fun episode today,
a positive episode to figure.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So welcome back to MMHC.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Summer break's done. We took a little break. Yeah we're busy, guys.
We got stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's been a busy summer. Yeah, we've we've been busy.
Me and my wife have had like something planned every
weekend for the past two and a half months and
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm tired. Hell yeah, bro, you got something else tomorrow,
so you're yeah, you guys are staying busy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, going to Vegas tomorrow. Backstreet Boys, Baby.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's do it. Fucking cool. The videos I've seen of
it that like it. It's crazy how much like music
can like just lodge itself in your brain somewhere. There's
songs that I haven't thought about in in forever, but
then I'm watching people's videos or I'm watching tiktoks or
the performances, and the words come back and I'm like,
holy shit, like I haven't thought about this in so long. Man.
(03:13):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, we're pretty excited. We've actually tried to intentionally not
watch the videos so that it's all gonna be one
big superse.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did you did you already say on the on the
recording where it's at, or like what it's.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
In the sphere, in the sphere, it's gonna be cool
first time there. We're really excited.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so I'll see you there. Yeah, I'll check tickets
while we record this.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It would be so funny just the fog comes up
and then Eddie comes in and out of nowhere, dressed
in all white.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think I have enough clothes. That's all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What I had to buy clothes that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Was my white jeans are at the dry cleaner. Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, we are talking positivity today, just because it feels
like we've been kind of downers lately. We've been talking
a lot about some heavy stuff about some things going
on in the country and politics, and we're like, you
know what, we just need a palette cleanser. So we
chewed on some ginger. We wrote up this this episode script.
(04:21):
But it also brings up a really good point that
in our lives in twenty twenty five, our phones give
us a constant stream of negative information, and plus we
get a constant stream of bad news from the twenty
four hour news cycle. It's because negativity sells, and it's
what gets the most views, it's what gets the most
(04:42):
eyes on it. So we wanted to take some time
to be intentionally positive, a little lighthearted, maybe even a
little bit, you know, borderline racist with the cheech Marin impression.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is that his last name, cheech Marin? Yeah, cheech Marine
If you will, I just let it even know I
had a full name. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He just thought he was Cheech.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh, he's like Chare.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He just has one name, Cheech.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's crazy because he he's been in like speaking of
like Mexican American h He was in Spy Kids, right, which,
like now looking back, was a very Latino movie, like
the whole the whole cast is like super Latino Antonio. Yeah,
I can't remember who the wife was. That's okay, we
need yeah who was it anyway? Yeah, like but Cheech
(05:29):
was in there. She was also a character on the
George Lopez show.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah Grandpa right, yeah, uh no.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He he was the who George and Benny thought could
be his dad around the same time. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, yeah,
random random, let's see him throughout like media and stuff
growing up.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Even in researching this show, I even tried to like google, hey,
what's some like positive news stories, and you know, all
of the stuff that came up was just like fluff pieces,
like stuff that wasn't really like positive good news of
things going on in this world. It was like, watch
this video of this hippo being sassy at the zoom
and it was like, okay, like give me some real
(06:15):
good news here, but it looks like like you found
some good ones even in the world of psychology.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, let me run through some positive stories in the
psych world. In the psychology world. So the first one
I found was that there's a school in India that
has been incorporating daily positive affirmations to help build student
emotional strength and focus. So they do this altogether every
morning before school starts. The next thing I found was
(06:42):
that the twenty twenty five World Happiness Report from Oxford's
well Being Research Center, it's a long one, emphasizes the
psychological benefits of communal dining. So Sharon meals is strongly
correlated with better mental and physical health, stronger social bonds,
and lower instances of depression. I have a friend Tim,
(07:02):
who is a chef, and he I remember him mentioning
this like a while ago, like how much like food,
Not this specifically, but just like kind of in passing
we're talking about something. He just mentions, how like sharing
a meal together is like one of the most important
things you can do. So it's kind of cool to
hear this from Oxford's well Being Research Center. There's also
research published in the Social Psychological and Personality Science that found,
(07:26):
after following university students for three years that engaging and
meaningful face to face interactions and hence well being and
reduced loneliness. So in a world where a lot of
us are on our phones, speaking of which a lot
of stags, do you know that thirty one states have
implemented some type of legislature or law with cell phone bands,
(07:47):
either starting this school year or the next school year.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yay thirty one.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, at least from the Google search I did the
other day. But yeah, like thirty one, yeah, I mean
so yeah, I mean, in a world where we're in
our phones a lot. I was at the doctor's office
the other day and I got there a little early,
and I checked in and all that, and I was
waiting for them to call me and or call me back,
and I had this I was like, I'm just gonna
(08:14):
try to sit here without my phone. And I tried to.
It's kind of hard, man, Like, I'm I'm not much
better than anybody else. It is tough. So anyway, and
in a world where we're in our phones a lot,
face to face meaningful interactions can be really helpful. And
then the last one was that every day spontaneous pro
social acts, so things like helping the neighbor helping someone
(08:35):
in need. Just just being kind to people around you
have been found to boost emotional well being. And this
is more than scheduled things. So if like, oh, I
was already going to go do this for my family
member or for my friend, it's helpful. But just doing
things like spontaneously has been shown to be good for
your emotional well being, which I think is cool. Random
maxim kindness, Yeah for.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Sure, ding your like good deed for the day. Yeah,
I like you point of how you tried to sit
there and not use your phone. Doesn't that just show
how much our brains have become rewired to do it
all the time, to crave that phone. Like I noticed
that if there's any space, if there's any time where
I'm not doing anything, my automatic reaction is grab the phone,
(09:19):
grab the phone.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
With our school doing the cell phone band this year
and be wanting to try to be a good staff member,
I've already I don't know if I mentioned this to
you or on the show, but I I bought these
little like almost like what detectives would use, like a
little flip book where you just write notes. I bought
it because usually I'm out there with my phone and
(09:41):
I'll like look at my phone to pass the time
or whatever when sudents you're passing. But sometimes the kid
will ask me like, hey, can you help me with this?
Or can I check in with you later or whatever,
and I pull out my phone, put a reminder on
my calendar. Cool, good to go. I'm going to try
to not have my phone in me. So I bought
these little books so that I could write the notes
down and then I'm just gonna leave my phone in
(10:02):
my office and we'll go nice. So, yeah, we're gonna try. Man,
it's gonna be. I've seen a lot on the TikTok.
A lot of kids have gone back to school this
week different states, and I'm seeing a lot of reactions
from teachers and from teens just posting on social on
TikTok of like I hate it, this is the greatest
(10:22):
thing ever. This is the worst we'll see. I don't
know it's gonna be. It's gonna be something I was
like asking my patients on my young kids.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I'm just like, hey, are you really excited to go
back to school? Kind of sarcastically, And I don't think
I've had maybe one say like yeah, I love school.
Most of them are like, no, I don't want to
go back.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you know if Colorado or Wyoming are doing any
kind of cell phone rulings?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Definitely not in Wyoming, but I'm not sure about Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know which one was interesting that I was a
little surprised by. It was Texas. Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh, in Colorado, school districts are required to implement policies
limiting students cell phone use by July twenty twenty six,
So it's coming not this year, but.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thirty one states man. That's wild, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think it just got to a critical mass, like
it was just such a big problem that something had
to break.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah. I think it's one of those where like we
can start off really strict with our rules or with
you know, whatever we're going to do, and then if
we want to pay it back, we can. But it's
harder to, like like we've kind of been doing, start
with something that's a little more lax, and then try
to like ramp it up. You get the reactions that
we're getting now. But I think if we would have
started a little more strict and then try to pull
it back, maybe it would be easier on the youths.
(11:42):
But it is what it is. We'll give it full youths.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, get the cats out of the bag. And you
look at everywhere. It's got different numbers and different sources.
And if the cell phone companies just were honest with
us and told us what the numbers were, we would
get more accurate data. But most accurate. It looks like
kids are on their phones average about eight hours per.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Day, Yeah, which is a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Which is a lot, and a lot of them when
you talk about them, surprisingly a lot of them are
saying like, I'd like to be on it less. I
would like to not have to be on this all
the time. So some of them are okay with some
of the screen limits of not being able to use
them in school. Yeah, So we got some discussion questions
for today, keeping with the positive theme, what's something positive
(12:24):
going on right now? Just again your personal life.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We'll go back to work next week. I say it
as a positive because I've kind of been ready to
go back to work all summer, after like two or
three weeks. And again, I had that doctor's appointment recently,
and I told the doctor and I've talked about it before.
I'm just someone who kind of runs anxious. We just
kind of have a little bit of a hard time
if I don't know what's going to happen next, and
(12:48):
you get probably a little more stress than I need to.
So I'm telling the doctor this, like, oh yeah, I'm
just I've found that over the last few years, I'll
sometimes have like physical symptoms I think related to stress
and anxiety. But again, I've found that like the more
that I go to the doctor or I talk to
myself about like, oh this is just because I'm stressed,
the better it gets, and like it gets, it resolves
(13:09):
pretty quickly. So I'm telling them all this because this
is the first time seeing this doctor and he's like, okay, listening,
and I forgot how we got on the topic. He's like, okay,
so work, You're going back to work next week. Do
you think that's going to negatively impact your mental health?
And I was like, WHOA, Like, I know I say
that I'm anxious and stuff, but I love my job,
Like it's great, all the things that I enjoyed a lot.
(13:30):
It's fulfilling, it's all the things. So I think, you know,
I'm excited to go back to work. I was reflecting
on things that I get to do and that Kevin
and I do in terms of travel and things that
we do together. The trips we've taken just this summer,
the trips we've taken even the last few years together
has been awesome. I'm just getting to do that and
my adult life is something that I don't even think
(13:52):
I just thought of, So it's really cool to get
to do that stuff together. I fixed the exhaust fan
in our bathroom today. That was fucking cool. Like, I'm
so hyped about that. I texted Kevy too, I'm like,
I'm hyped. It like just kind of went out yesterday
and then I just started to kind of slowly look
up how to do it. And then I only went
to home people once, so like that's like, right, hey, yeah, yeah,
(14:15):
you get in. I don't know, just some good stuff.
It's been a good summer. Things that we get to
do as adults has been cool. All of the above,
I guess is where I'm at. But what do you got?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, but a man one trip to home depot.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's huge.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It's fun being able to like fix stuff. I think
I may have mentioned in the past that like, yeah,
my dryer went out when we were living in Omaha,
and my wife was like, either call someone or fix it.
So I was like, ah, I'll try and fix it.
And then I was like, I know nothing about dryers,
and then you start looking up on YouTube, and before
I know it, I'm like, yeah, I think the Tenser
Pulley went out and we got to order some parts.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Our washer went out a year or two ago, and
we fixed with a single piece from Amazon just by
watching videos.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Cool? Yeah? What else you got though? What else I'd
say for you? You got to talk about your personal life.
I rambled on and on.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Do you fixing the bathroom fan is all the joy
I need in my life?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's loud. Yeah, this new one is prime, It's Optimus Prime.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, I would say this past weekend, I just had
a bunch of time with my family, me, my brother's family,
my parents. We got to go to Grand Lake in
Colorado and we stayed at a house and all hung
out for a couple of days. And it's just that
stuff is so good for me.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I love just.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Spending time with the family and being around people I love.
I'm really lucky that I live like fifteen minutes for
my parents. I live like ten minutes from my brother.
We're all super close. So I would say that's that's
the thing that I'm so thankful for.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's nice to be able to go on vacation with
each other and enjoy it. You hear so many people
talking about time with their family, and it's always like,
I gotta go spend time with my family.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What about professional life? What do you got going? Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, is it time to break the news to.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
The mental heads?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
To the audience out here, that's what we're calling you
fans now, hope to mental head But Eddie and I
actually got an offer from a company called Sword Health
to make some mental health educational videos and so we
get to actually like fly to Portugal and go to
(16:44):
their recording studio and record this. And so I'm pumped.
I get to spend some time with my good friend Eddie,
see a new play, start a new project, do something
that's totally different for us. So I'm really pumped on that.
That's probably the biggest thing going on professional wise, how
about you that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean other than that, because that's a huge thing
for us. Yeah, I mean I was on the news
again the other day talking about back to school kids
and here in the Portland area, so that was pretty cool.
I recently taken over as president of the Organ Counseling Association.
It's not my year long.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Term, so mister President.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
There's a lot of changes happening. I think we've talked
about it, but just our Medicare, Medicaid, the organ Health
Plan has made a lot of changes recently. They made
a huge change as of the thirty first of July
basically saying that they're no longer going to reimburse non
contracted providers. So basically what that means if you're not
(17:41):
paneled with Oregon Health Plan for individual therapy, they're not
going to reimburse you anymore. And it's it's tough because
I think the company Care Oregon, they've made a lot
of changes six seven years ago that they were the
exception rather than the rule. They used to allow non
licensed providers to build for OHP Medicare and Medicaid. That's
(18:03):
not very standard across the country. So that was kind
of a nice gesture, but it was because of the need.
And so they've made a lot of these changes and
now they're kind of going back on them, and I
won't say like going back. I think it's now time
for them to make a change. But I think the
way that they've rolled out has been really fast, and
it's hard for people because there's a lot of people
who have their providers who are maybe not contracted with
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the insurance and so we'll see. That's sorry, that's not
as positive. But I'm excited to be helping the providers
across the state just try to get things worked out.
So yeah, I think with the organ counsting association with
work and just getting to spread the words that we
know and the knowledge we have, I think has been
really cool. I mean, over the last five years, just
(18:48):
to get to do that, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And that kind of work touches so many lives. It
really helps people get the therapy that they need. So
I really admire you that you're doing that and taking.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What do you feel like is the activity in life
that recharges your batteries.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The laying around and doing nothing. I think Kevin and I
are pretty good at that when we need a break.
I told Justin I've been reading a lot this summer,
so that's been super cool and helpful. Just taking breaks.
I mean, that's life goes pretty fast and sometimes we're
super go go go, So I think that take breaks
is helpful. I feel you.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I'm in the same boat too, where it's like over
the summer, we are just busy, busy, busy, busy, busy,
and it's nice to be able to take a break.
And specifically, I love watching old movies that I really
enjoyed growing up, so like sitting and watching The Water Boy,
watching Joe Dirt, watching ace Ventura, like all these movies
(20:00):
that most adults probably wouldn't find that funny or good,
but I just loved them growing up for some reason.
It's fun to go and revisit them and just kind
of get reminded of a simpler time. That's something I
really enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
What do you like to do with your friends? You
know that thing about the communal eating, like really like
stuck out to me. Yeah, I think you know. We've
had we had friends recently, our friends Brandon Leslie, my
friends from high school. They came and visited us a
few months ago, and just get to take them out
to eat and places together and give showing them places
(20:35):
that we like to go eat. I had a friend
text me recently, I'm going to meet up with them
for coffee here soon, and I think their text was like,
you pick the place, you know all the best places
in the area. That kind of stuff is, like, Kevin,
I really like to try new places, even if it's
just the communal eatings, just me and her just trying
new places together. I think it's cool we have with
(20:55):
friends too. Just again, I think I get it from Tim,
just the idea of like communal eating. We went to
LA about a year ago for a friend's wedding and
we met up with him at a restaurant that him
and his now wife used to like to go to
and they lived in LA and it was just a
bunch of us friends from high school and he was like, Hey,
do you care if I order for the table, like
if the food will be here when you get here.
(21:15):
I'm like, I don't give a shit you order. I
trust you like you I trust you with food. So
that that kind of stuff, I think is one thing
I like to do with friends. We're just sitting around
and bullshit in thinking about old times. I was with
a lot of high school friends recently, and so yeah,
I think those those two things.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, it's funny how like the older you get, the
less you need to like do something. Just like sitting
around and talking with friends is like the main attraction
is the best part.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What else do you got for friends?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I also really love playing jack box games with friends.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I love plenty.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's so much fun and you get to bring out
such humor and people that you don't always get to see.
And so we've done that quite a few times where
we have friends over and we're like, okay, let's break
out the jackbox games and it's always a riot, like
to the point where you're laughing so hard that you
can barely breathe, and it's just.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's a that's a grad school throwback, man.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I know when COVID hit, we didn't together with all
the optometry school kids. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I remember we play on like Cush's Xbox. He got it,
so we can play it. Well, you switched a living
by each other.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, do you have any interests that has like nothing
to do with your profession anything that people would be like, huh,
I didn't know that about you.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's that's cool that you like.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've really enjoyed reading the last few years. Yeah, ever
since I got a kindle. The books have just kind
of stacked, which has been cool and flying through them. Man, Yeah,
I think that's been cool because I think when the
summer started, I was I was behind on my goal
for the year, and now that summer's almost over, I'm
caught back up, which is quite a lot of books
to read to get caught up. But yeah, I think
(22:59):
reading has been something that's been cool. I would say,
like they try new food stuff, but like as a
as a larger gentleman, I think it's pretty obvious that
I like to eat.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But everybody loves to eat too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think it's cool to try new places, especially around Beaverton,
Portland area with Kevy has it's been cool. Let's go
with those two things. Yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I am fascinated by like renewable energy videos and so
like I am constantly watching YouTube videos on solar panel technologies,
battery technologies, electric vertical takeoff and launch vehicles and like that,
like side of the cool electrification tech. I just I
(23:42):
find it fascinating And then my wife makes fun of
me all the time because I'm always like watching prefab
home videos.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You know. Okay, I forgot who told I think Kevy's
sister told her this a while back that like guys
and YouTube, they always have like the random, special interesting
that they'll watch, And that made me think of, like
my YouTube thing right now is all smooth jazz with
like a backdrop coffee shop on Beyonce Plane, because that's
(24:14):
all like read when I have that on, Yeah, we'll
watch like DJ sets they just have like oh yeah, fun,
they'll do like a barrier hip hop R and B.
And then I really like this channel called pack Hackers
where it's like all about travel stuff like gear and
things like that. So yeah, maybe those things too cool.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Who's someone you really admire?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Hmm, I'll probably give the cop out answers not a
cop out, but I think my parents for sure. I
think of like every time I go back to the
Bay Area, I see how much like things have changed
and how like it's really expensive. But I think the
the lucky unfortunate part is like how much my friends
and I relate on like we all live here and
(24:58):
our families live here because our immigrant parents at some
point like took a chance and just moved to Milpitas, California,
shout out Milpitas, and so like I think for them
to kind of come to this country, figure things out,
get together, have this house and life and things that
they have and do now, and they travel a bunch more.
(25:19):
And even if it's just to see me and my sister,
and they have like the fridge is full of Trader
Joe stuff, which is like, we never had that shit
when we were younger. So like that's one where I'm like, well,
what the hell, But I get it. But yeah, just
to get them to get to see them kind of
live their lives and do things that they like to do,
I think it's super cool. Now.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, it's funny to see your parents go through different
stages of life as they retire, as they get older,
as the kids move out of the house, and what
they gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah. Rot.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Even before we started the episode, I was thinking about this.
I was gonna say, my mom, you know, not to
give the cop out answer of what you already said. Yeah,
but if she grew up in a household that wasn't
always the most emotionally sensitive, and instead of letting that
pull her down, she learned a lot about it. She
overcame it. It's like the movie It stops with us,
(26:09):
like she stopped that trauma and she learned from all
the mistakes of her parents instead of perpetuating a lot
of the mistakes from her parents. She's brilliant. She was
like the top of her nursing class. She really instilled
in me an admiration and a respect for women, which
I am so glad that I have. So boy, yeah,
(26:32):
a big shout out to my mom. I think she's
an incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'll let you ask the next question. This one's for you, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What's something you admire about our country?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I think, even when faced with adversity, and there's still
a lot of people who don't take no for an
answer and feel like they care about the well being
of the country for people beyond them, not just for them,
but for other people. And I think that's important. It
helps me keep going. I think about like the teens
(27:08):
that we work with. Teens get a shitty rap. They
always have. I mean, our parents when they were teens,
their generation got shipped on the generation before them. When
we were teens, we got shipped on. Teens just get
shit on, for lack of a better phrase. But they
kind of keep trying to figure things out and I
think that's that's one of my favorite things about working
(27:29):
with teams. So we'll do those the younger generations always,
and then just the amount of people that don't let
bullshit stop them, because there's a lot of bullshit. What
about you Just.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The art and the music in this country and the
things that the people are capable of creating, and the
creativity that in America, we have lots of opportunities to
express ourselves through art, and I think it's such a
powerful way to change minds in a powerful way to
(28:04):
make this world a better place. So I think it's
a cool thing for us as Americans. Yeah, along those
same lines of like what music are you into right now?
Who's who your top artists?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm all over the place to music like there's there's
just so I don't know. I kevios is like you
listen to the same songs, but it's like whenever I
get some new ones on the I like to playlist
on Spotify. I kind of tend to just start from
the top and work my way down and and everything.
I think going home and going to a couple of
weddings and just hearing a lot of just like throwback music.
(28:40):
One song that's really stuck out to me recently by
Cooling the Gang Ladies night Man. That song is so good,
like it's you know a song I'm talking about right, I.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Don't know if I do if maybe if I heard.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
It, but you'll have to look it up. I wouldn't
do it any justice. But like cool in the Gang. Uh,
I'm looking at my thing right now. Some Luther Van Dross.
He you know, I got him like some new addition.
I really liked some of those, like older songs that
like either I I liked when I was in high
school because I heard him, like, oh this is really good,
or I hear now like Temptations. I really like the
(29:16):
Temptations when I was younger, and like recently it's been
a TikTok sound. They used one of their songs treat
like a Lady Temptations that was good, new edition all
this stuff, but like that's been coming up. My boy
Colleeds dropping a new song tonight. I'm just yeah, just
a little bit of everything. It's kind of always been
(29:36):
what my iPod looked like back in the day.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Dude, you got great taste in music.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
All over the place. We're all over the place.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Good, especially like that old school R and B like
the Temptations and stuff that they had so much talent
and they would they were so good together.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, what'd you got to.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Top right now? Or I went on a big billy
strings kick the bluegrass artist.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
He's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And then there's a local band which I've never really
ever gotten like way into a local band, but this
band out of Greeley, Colorado, called the Burrows, and they
kick ass. They're a funk band. They're so much fun
to listen to. So as much as I can promote
the Burrows, because I think they should be on like
(30:26):
the Grammy level, like competing for Best Funk Album because
they are so talented, I just can't stop listening to him.
Like so they are so much fun. And that's the
thing I like about that kind of music and that
funk music is it just puts you in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Recently, one of the weddings that I went to, my
friend was giving me shit to Kevy like he was like,
speaking of like local band. There's a band when I
was growing up called the hold Up. They're from San Jose, California,
and they're like a white guy reggae band. I like
really liked their songs. And I don't know how he
got on the topic, but I remember my friend he
(31:07):
was like he told Kevy, he's like yeah, and he
used to talk to talk about them, like he's like,
you know, like Revolution, like like the big name reggae band,
Like yeah, they're kind of like them, but they're like
from San Jose, Like I really hyped them up back
in the day. I fucked with the hold up man,
like they they made some good jams you were speaking of,
(31:27):
like some I don't know, like some just like Vibe Music,
Lake Street Dive are you familiar with Yeah, dude, they're
like my my like Caucasian funky music man. Anyway, I
just had to shout them out too, because I really,
I don't even know what kind of music, but it's
good for sure. Have you listened to the song Hypotheticals?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I can't think of it off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Put that on, turn the speaker up, and just just
feel it. Like it's one of those songs that I
I gotta like, I gotta turn it up a little
bit when I listen to it. Nice you got it? Yeah?
Music great? Thank you? Thanks for bringing up the question,
I got to talk to music more.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Maybe we should do a whole music episode. Yeah, maybe
we should even do like best depressing songs best.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't. I don't do that though. I've never I've
never been someone that listens to sad songs when I'm sad.
I know I had friends like that growing up that
would try to get me too, but I just never
I never did that.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You think, yeah, well, how about last question, who's your
dream guest? If you get anyone on the show.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
This is gonna be sound so lame, but I promise
it's kind of cool. I think it's like for a
long time, and I even tried. I think I told
you this, like I've reached out to like their agents.
I really wanted to get either Darren Waller or Max
Crosby on the show. Ye both. Darren Waller's not a
Las Vegas Raider anymore, but Max Crosby is. But they've
(32:58):
both been very vocal about that her journey with addiction
and just how much like they've gone through rehab and
just you know they failed come back, Phil come back
like Darren Waller's story. If you've never heard, it's like
pretty intense in terms of like Georgia Tech, when he
was in college, in and out of the drug and
alcohol protocol. Same thing when he made it to the league,
(33:21):
Max Goana to rehab, So yeah, I'll go with them.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I would say Selena Gomez has always been one of
our top targets. It was what two years ago we
said she would be on in five years, so we
got time. And then I would say Jim Carrey. Jim
Carrey would be He was like a father figure growing up,
and I loved his movies. I just thought he was
the man and the funniest man on earth. And I
(33:47):
know that he's really struggled with some mental health stuff
and his mindset has changed so much, and hearing quotes
about him and he's like, you know, everyone wants money
and fame, but when you find they get it, you
realize that it's not everything. So yeah, I love that
he learned a lot throughout his life and his mindset
(34:07):
changed and he wasn't afraid to just walk away and
say like I don't want this life anymore. I think
I think that makes him a really cool and interesting person.
And I think I had mentioned a while back that
one time while I was watching The Grinch. I tried
to slide into his DMS and I was like, Hey,
watching The Grinch, think you're brilliant. Want to come on
the show. Never heard anything back. Yeah, so, Jim, if
(34:32):
you're hearing this, or if anyone knows Jim out there,
tell him. We'd love to have him.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, I think we've been smiling the whole time. So
thanks for bringing up a positive episode for us. We
needed it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
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(35:07):
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