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Content creation has transformed lives, allowing everyday people to build thriving careers simply by documenting their passions. We explore how YouTube creators like "Beard Meets Food" (completing global food challenges) and "Outdoor Boys" (surviving in extreme wilderness conditions) have turned their interests into lucrative businesses – prompting us to consider what aspects of our own lives might be worth sharing.

Could you film yourself working on construction projects, renovating cars, or exploring the outdoors? The key isn't just what you document but your consistency and authenticity. We discuss how setting clear content goals (like publishing 100 YouTube videos by year's end) creates momentum that leads to opportunities, even if the process feels challenging at first.

Our conversation takes a fascinating turn as we examine the rapid evolution of AI technologies and their integration into our daily lives. We compare different AI systems (Claude versus ChatGPT) and share shocking stories about parents using these tools for parenting decisions and allowing their children direct access to AI assistants. This raises profound questions: At what age should children be introduced to AI? Are we disadvantaging kids by restricting access to tools that will define their future workplace?

The parallels to historical technological transitions are striking – just as electricity and automobiles became essential, AI literacy may soon separate the relevant from the obsolete. We debate whether early exposure helps children view AI as simply a tool rather than forming unhealthy attachments, while acknowledging the importance of teaching proper boundaries and critical thinking.

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Episode Transcript

George (00:00):
LFG.

Robby (00:02):
How are you?
Is that how we're starting theepisode now?
Lfg.

George (00:05):
LFG.

Robby (00:06):
LFG stands for let's fucking go.

George (00:09):
I was going to say Get ready for the acronyms Lizards,
frogs.
We're big on acronyms thesedays, mainly on stage, not so
much through my day-to-day life.

Robby (00:17):
There's all around us LFG guys.
Lol, lol.
Oh yeah, or calm.

George (00:24):
Calm.
Oh no, don't Stop.
Huh, stop, where is he?
Is he Gen Z?
He'd be like Gen 7.
He's off the chart, gen 7.
He says shit we don't.
He sometimes talks and I'm just, I just was that English?
Yeah, are you talking English?
Are you just making sounds?
Yeah, your face is makingsounds.
I don't understand what'scoming out.
That's how you know you'regetting old.

(00:44):
Yeah, you especially.
A hundred percent, mate.
You're all right.
You still don't.
Really, you haven't got manygreys Me, you know, I started
going grey later on in life,like in my late thirties, so in
thirties, I was all right.

Robby (00:57):
I can't wait.
Yeah, yeah, fox, is that whatthey call it?
That's what I call myself.
Welcome back to another episode.
Everyone, we're glad you'regoing to join us for this next
hour of power.
You want to talk about acronymsand rhyminia?

George (01:18):
Poet as well.
Man of many skills.
Hey, I was watching YouTube.
I watch YouTube from time totime.
Are you a premium subscriber?
Of course, what you think I'mgoing to pay for ads.
The other day, an ad came onYouTube and I got upset.

Robby (01:33):
Yeah, it's upsetting when you haven't seen an ad for a
long time.
Yeah, and you're trying to workout what's happening.
You're like what is this I musthave?
My YouTube doesn't have ads.
Yeah, I don't mind.
Youtube ads, though they'relike good quality ads.

George (01:50):
Yeah, the ones that you pay for and that you're running,
yeah.

Robby (01:54):
They're good quality ads.

George (01:56):
Yeah, they're not too bad.
Yes, yes, I was watchingYouTube and there's these couple
of.
There's two guys I'm watchingand I know I'm probably a little
bit late to the party, but andthere's two guys I'm watching.
I know I'm probably a littlebit late to the party, but
there's two guys, not twodifferent ones, but two
different shows or two differentcreators, one of them called
Beard Meets Food.
Seen him?

Robby (02:14):
No.

George (02:14):
Yeah.
So he's just a bloke, a pom,travels the world, massive beard
, he's actually in pretty goodshape.
He's in good shape, yeah, buthe goes around doing food
challenges.
So he'll go to this restaurantand eat 4,000 chicken wings and
then go to this one and eat thebiggest burger in the state.
He tries and does the foodchallenges and he just records
himself.
He takes a camera in, goes andsays, hey, I'm here to do your

(02:37):
food challenge and he juststuffs his face.

Robby (02:41):
What sort of food challenges is it?
Everything there's like speedones.
Yes, he does them all.
Oh really, yeah, speed ones arecooked.

George (02:48):
When he says oh sorry, not like, how fast can you eat
it?
But it'll be.
There'll be time limits on someof them, so you've got an hour
to eat this yeah, that's not bad.
I reckon I'll do alright yeah,see, I close, I would get to
that.
I should have done it when wewent to the States.
We should have found a place.
I eat heaps.
Yeah, I reckon I can eat a, Ireckon I can give it a nudge.
But the stuff that he's eatingI'm like no chance.

(03:09):
Man, come on Like you, look atit and like how does that
physically fit in you?
It doesn't make sense.
Some of the shit he's eaten,other stuff.
You're like good for you either, eating that much food that
often that can't be good.

Robby (03:25):
I don't think that's why they do it.

George (03:26):
No, and the guy's not obese or anything, he's not fat,
he's in good shape.
He'll consume like 6,000 pluscalories in a sitting.
I'm like mate, you must need togo out and hit the gym hard
after that, yeah, or the toilet,or throw up everywhere.
So yeah, be watching a bit ofhis stuff Outdoor Boys.

(03:47):
You seen that guy Luke fromOutdoor Boys?
100% you've seen him.
He's the guy that goes inAlaska and he goes.
I am 10,000 miles away from anycivilization and he's in the
snow and he goes.

Robby (03:57):
I'm out there.
Oh yeah, he retired?

George (03:59):
Yeah, he retired, but just recently been watching all
his shit.

Robby (04:04):
Yeah, he's cool.
He's a cool guy.
His content is horrible.

George (04:07):
He's kind of like a nerd kind of, and he's just going
out there, he's just making shitand working hard.

Robby (04:15):
I watched him camp in snow once, yeah once.
That's all he does, you'recamping in the snow by yourself.
Yeah, he made like an igloo itthe snow by yourself.
He made like an igloo andeverything.
It's really weird for going tothe bush where it's safe yeah,
it's like this guy's going tothe snow With like a blanket
yeah, with nothing and he's likethe blanket and a box of
redhead matches.

George (04:31):
Yeah.

Robby (04:31):
I'm going to go do this and I'm going to make this fire
and he just sits there.

George (04:39):
Yeah, it's cool, it's cool.
And then obviously I'll watch abit of Matt Armstrong who fixes
cars in the UK he buys wreckedsupercars and fixes them up.
Yep, I really enjoy that one alot.
I have for a little while nowand anyway I was watching it and
it got me thinking the otherday.
It's like these guys have madea living and when I say a living
like they're doing well forthemselves, they're getting

(05:06):
millions and millions of viewsper video that they put up.
Yeah, like outdoor boys he gets, I think some of them he's got
like 20 million views.
And then matt armstrong getsbetween sort of two to five
million views per video.
I think this other guy that Idon't know what his name is, but
beard meets food he makes.
He probably gets a couplemillion per view per video and
yeah, like they're making aliving off that.

(05:26):
And when I say living, they'remaking good coin.
They're going and traveling anddoing things that they like
doing and just documenting theprocess.
I was like I wonder what I woulddo, like what task would I do
if I was just going to filmmyself just doing something and
I don't know?
Like I was trying to think whatwould it be that I would just
film myself doing because Ienjoy it.
Well, what do you?
What do you enjoy?

(05:46):
Well, I enjoy water sports.
So, like I enjoy the whole jetskiing aspect and doing all that
sort of stuff and boating, Ithink there would be an element
of me just doing outdoor stufftoo.
I don't fish enough to be anavid fisherman, but I enjoy
doing that I could see doing.
Yeah, I could see myself doingstuff like that and doing the
camping stuff.

(06:06):
There's a small part of me thatI've always liked cars and I've
always enjoyed doing things onmy cars, like when I had.
When I was in my teens, earlytwenties.
I used to just work on my carall the time and just do stupid
shit on it and replace lightsand my uncle taught me how to
service it and all that sort ofstuff.
Nothing I did.
Nothing extreme, nothing likechange my brakes, front or back.

Robby (06:28):
Just one on each?
Yeah, just one side of one.
Yeah, because I didn't havemoney back then.

George (06:33):
Yeah, that's it.
I could only do one at a time.
Once every quarter, change abrake pad.

Robby (06:38):
Change a brake, huh.

George (06:39):
Yeah, so that's probably the most extreme thing I did.
But you know I would changespark plugs, drop the oils,
filters, all that sort of jazz.
Then what else?
Oh, I ripped out like all theinterior of my car once and
replaced it with a new interior.
Shout out to the VT HoldenCommodore.
Pretty simple.

Robby (06:58):
Yeah, it's just gone eBay .

George (06:59):
It is.
It went on eBay and like boughtbecause I had the executive,
which is like the base range.
I had wind-up windows on my VTCommodore.
The Executives, they didn'tcome with that, no, they didn't.
So I had that.
And then I remember just buyinga Calais interior for fuck, all
it was leather yeah, 300 bucksor something, but everything was
in pieces.
So I had to get it all and thenI took all the old shit out,

(07:21):
sold it and put the new one in.
So I did that all by myself.
So that was fun.
And anyway, the point of thatstory is there's part of me that
wanted to buy a car and likefix it up and do it myself and
start to finish.
Now, whether I'd make it a showcar or not is another story,
but uh, even like an old musclecar, I always loved the Mustang
Mac ones, like the 69 MustangMac one.

(07:43):
I always love the Mustang Mach1s, like the 69 Mustang Mach 1.

Robby (07:45):
I always like that shape.
Yeah, okay, so here's myrebuttal.
You have to do it before youcan tape yourself doing it.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Otherwise it'll become too hardIf you're doing it for the sake
of content, unless you'rewilling to like 100% commit,
which 99.99% of people are not.
Yeah, because then it's likeall of a sudden now I've got

(08:06):
this thing and I've got to dothis thing because of it.
Yeah, that's right, theseconversations were happening
before the podcast startedgetting recorded and then we
said, fuck, we should recordthis shit.

George (08:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right .
Yeah, now we're just talkingand recording it and you guys
are listening and we make somuch money from this.
It's like ridiculous.
So money from this, it's likeridiculous.
So much.
Do you think we make all thismoney from work?
Silly, silly people, silly,silly people.
What's that?
This is what I'm doing.

Robby (08:30):
This is our YouTube thing .
The amount of people that thinkI don't work Really.

George (08:37):
A lot of people.
You give those vibes off.
I must 100%, you must.
It's all those pizza videos youwere doing.
I've got to get back on that100%, you must.

Robby (08:45):
It's all those pizza videos you were doing.
I was eating pizza before youweren't.
I haven't stopped eating pizza,I've just stopped taping it.

George (08:53):
Just stopped taping it.
Let's go out for pizza.
Let's do it tomorrow, all rightyeah.

Robby (08:58):
What time?

George (08:59):
Fuck, now, tomorrow time , I don't know, anytime After
work.
Okay, we'll do it.
We've got to go to a good place, let's not go down there.
Yeah, I'm not going to say thename, because I know them Name
and chain.
I can't, I can't.
I know them.
I did, I know you did.
You're an asshole and peoplehated you for it.

(09:20):
You got that happens.
It comes from the territory.
It means they're watching mycontent.
When you start going out thereand putting yourself out there,
it means they're watching mycontent.
People will look at that guyeating the food and doing the
challenges and go you'redisgusting human being.
He grabs the shit with hishands and, like, squashes it
into balls so he can fit itbetter and just stuffs it in his
face and go on, here's a betterthat shit's cooked, by the way,
but here's a better question.

Robby (09:42):
If they said okay, cool, we're going to give you the
opportunity to do it, we're justgoing to come and tape you
doing something that you'redoing now, yeah, what would you
say?
So you can't add something?

George (09:52):
What I would do now.
I would go deep on what I do inwork every single day, and
there's been an element of medoing that too.
Actually, I almost bought notalmost I'm going to buy, I think
.
What Almost I'm going to buy, Ithink.
What's it called?
The DJI little handheld thing,osmo 3 or something like that.
Yeah, I was going to go buy thatthe other day and I will buy it
.
I'm going to get it soon.

(10:13):
Actually, don't, don't, don't.
Don't you know what I reckon?
We'll talk about it after.
Oh, there you go, inside scoopfrom the digital fuck.

Robby (10:23):
That's what I'm saying, yeah.

George (10:25):
There's a lot.
I mean, there's like there'sthings there that you can just
hold this thing up and put it upand then load it onto some
program and it does everythingfor you, which I was doing a lot
of at the start of the year andI just want to do a little bit
more of that.
So why'd you drop off Justpurely time and effort, that
less of a priority and too hardbasket at the time, even though,
like gun to your head, ifsomeone said to you you have to

(10:47):
do this, I would get it done?
So it was priority, that's allit came down to, just mental
space priority.
And that's why I didn't do it,to be honest, because I did set
a challenge for myself to createcontent every single day.
Now I've created a lot ofcontent, and not just in video
form, but I actually made thenot the content every day, it

(11:10):
was more, even a video every day, and even me doing that,
because I did it for about amonth and a half where I created
a video every single day, andjust from me doing that, I got
my very first viral video, whichactually wonder how many it has
at the moment for the listenersat home, listeners at home.

Robby (11:21):
Have you seen the video on Legacy?
No, which one?
It's about half a million views.

George (11:25):
Does it?

Robby (11:26):
That's sick.
Which one?
There's only one.
Yeah, like there's only onethat's going to do that.
But yeah, you need to well, doit.

George (11:38):
Hey, 1.5 million views.
That's gone up a lot since lasttime I saw it Still going up
every single day, 1.5 millionviews.
And's gone up a lot since lasttime I saw it Still going up
every single day 1.5 millionviews.
And because I made a littlegoal of, okay, I'm just going to
create some content everysingle day and look the video I
put out.
There was a silly one.
It's an entertaining video.
It wasn't one that was abouteducation or anything like that

(11:59):
or something to help you.
It was purely there as anentertaining thing that I put up
.
But because I made the goal,I'm going to put out a video
every single day.
That happened Now.
Imagine I continued that.
I've still been doing that forsix months now, and now I've got
10 videos that have one and ahalf mil and I've got 40,000
followers or 100,000 followers.
And then you can say, okay,well, people are following me
because of my journey.
And now we're doing anotherevent in about what is it?

(12:23):
Three weeks, four weeks by thetime this is, let's say, three
weeks which is actually theBuilders Summit.
So if you guys are in the tradeand listening and wanting to
come along and learn somethingfrom both myself and Robbie.
Register your tickets for theBuilders Summit.
You can find it in our link inour bio.
If you really want to, you'llfind it wherever you want.
Just come visit us on anysocial media platform and you'll

(12:45):
see it there.
Get a ticket, all the websites.
It's free, completely 100% free.
There's also paid tickets forthose of you that want an
exceptional experience, extrabonuses.
You get to give me a high five.
Otherwise don't touch me.

Robby (12:59):
Otherwise Do not touch me , otherwise Don't raise your
hand, do not put me, otherwiseDon't raise your hand.

George (13:02):
Do not put your hand.
I will leave you hanging like amotherfucker.
You'll come.
Hey, george, high five.
Nah, a VIP ticket.
Where's your VIP lanyard?
Let me see the VIP lanyard.
You'll get a high five.
Otherwise, do not come on stage.
I'll high five everyone.
That's Robbie's.
That's what you get in the freeticket, as you.

(13:27):
What a way to start the day offSidetracked.
But yeah, so say you have100,000 followers, and then the
advertising you're doing forevents may not need to be spent
as much, or you get a lot moreorganic traffic to the events.
So it has a huge flow andeffect, and then maybe sponsors
are a lot more keen to jump onboard and be involved on that
process.
It's leverage.
Yeah, exactly right.

Robby (13:44):
Okay, here's a great thing.
You just said maybe sponsoredads aren't needed as much.
Yeah, alex Hormozy has a hugefollowing.
Yes, he's running ads like amad dog at the moment.
Why?

George (13:58):
Because he still gets organic reach.
But he'll get even more reach.
Yeah, Because he'll have theads.
Great ads ads, by the way, um,they're just, they're
entertaining, they have a hookon him.

Robby (14:11):
he's being silly and serious.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch ofdifferent angles and it's got a
theme like those green guysrunning around.
Yeah, it's cool, it's a goodconcept.
You should do that for everysummit.
A green guy running around?
Yeah, sure, we kidnapped one ofAlex's employees.
Yeah, into the builder's summit, leverage off his.

(14:33):
But I think having an anglelike that is super cool.
Yeah, but it's just extendedreach.
But, yes, would you need it asmuch?
Just depends on how big youwant to go.
Yeah, don't get too comfortable.

George (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it comes down as well.
I mean like, would KimKardashian run ads for her stuff
?
Yeah, yeah, you would think so,I think so.
Why wouldn't Nike?
Why wouldn't all thesebillion-dollar companies?
You don't reckon?

Robby (14:56):
Skims runs ads?
No, I reckon it does for sure.
Yeah, Skims for sure.
Skims would run ads for sure.
Yeah, I'd be, very surprised ifthey didn't yeah.

George (15:09):
But it's just extended reach.

Robby (15:10):
That's all it is, and you'll get a lower cost.
Oh yes, that's probably whatit's going to be, yeah because
it's going to cost you less toget a customer.
It'll cost you less to get acustomer because now your
organic reach is anti-greach, isso powerful already.

George (15:22):
Um, it's like having a really good base, yeah, to work
off yep, yeah, I just I reckonthat would be cool to do that
and to have that aspect, and Idefinitely want to do it more.
There's still months left inthe year so I can still achieve
this sort of stuff so how areyou gonna start doing it?
I'm gonna start doing it it bycloser business, 31st of August

(15:52):
this month this year.

Robby (15:54):
What are you going to do?
Youtube videos.

George (15:56):
Just videos in general, everything, yeah, yes.

Robby (15:58):
Yes, I've set a goal with my team.
Today we're going to put out ahundred YouTube videos, like
long form YouTube videos, by theend of the year.

George (16:04):
Yeah, awesome, how many days left in the year?
Probably 140.
Hey Siri, how many days left inthe year?

Robby (16:12):
You don't trust my math?
Huh, come on, mate, I can usechat GPT to answer that.

George (16:16):
Siri's a dud, you are a retard.
Go for it.
Sorry, that's not politicallycorrect.
You're fucking stupid.
Politically correct, you'refucking stupid.
Enable chat GPT.

Robby (16:27):
Go for it.

George (16:28):
That's George's relationship with his phone,
everyone Still thinking I wasclose.
How many did you say?

Robby (16:33):
142.
That was from chat GPT.
Check important info formistakes.
Check important info.
I am.

George (16:41):
How long?

Robby (16:41):
did it take you I?

George (16:43):
don't know.
That took ages, yeah, but I hadto enable ChatGPT through Siri.
That's why, yeah, well, it's areality, it's a reality.

Robby (16:49):
It's pretty close.

George (16:50):
Not too bad, not too bad .

Robby (16:52):
Yeah, so we can put out 100 videos.

George (16:54):
So you've got 45 days grace between now and then.
Yeah, maybe one every second.

Robby (16:59):
Great it's going to be sick.
What a life.
So you're going to make aYouTube channel.
I'll subscribe to yours, areyou not already?
Nah, come on, are you going tomake a YouTube channel?

George (17:12):
I've already got one.
I've had one for ages.
As in document that.

Robby (17:14):
Yeah, fucking oath Commit to like.

George (17:16):
I will yes, yes, yes, yes, by the end of the month.
What are you going to talkabout?
Just anything, I feel like, butI think it's good to have a.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's good to havesomething, because if I'm just
coming on one day and talkingabout this and talking about
that, it'll be around theconstruction space.
I reckon it would beinteresting.
I was thinking about it fromwhat I'm doing now.
I think it would be interestingfor people to see a project

(17:38):
from start to finish, not thatthat's unique or new, but I'm
talking more in depth aboutnumbers, about what you look for
in a site, all those sorts ofthings, even from a development
standpoint.
I think people would beinterested in that.
So what type of site would Iacquire?
How would I go about that?
I want to do that when thattime comes.

(17:59):
So we're looking at a few sites,potentially in the future, and
then we can go okay, well, look,this is what we look for when
we're looking for a constructionsite or for a development site.
These are the people we'regoing to speak with.
This is that, this is this, andso on and so forth.
This is the feasibility anddocument that process.
I think that would be reallyinteresting for people to watch
in that space Because I thinkthat relates to everyday people
too.
A lot of people want to dodevelopments because they see

(18:22):
that as a way of generating somewealth for themselves outside
of their job or their otherbusinesses that they're running.
And I've got interest in it anda fair bit of expertise, so
it's not something I have tolearn or try too hard with.

Robby (18:38):
I know the answers off the top of my head, but even if
you're learning, I think,documenting the learning
experience, yeah, you'll makemistakes.

George (18:44):
You go buy a site that's fucked.
Yeah, which I have done.
It's going to be fucked up.
I've made mistakes before.

Robby (18:48):
Close it down this channel.
Close it, Okay.

George (18:51):
I will not document this .
Yeah, I won't document this.
Fuck up, I'm not going to beable to eat.
Please send crackers to thisaddress Please, and speaking of
which, I saw a bum on the streetthe other day and he was
holding a cup or had a cup thereto put coins in.
Am I fucking wrong time of yourlife to be asking for money

(19:13):
like that?
Why?
Who carries cash around thesedays, or coins?
Very rare?
It'd be horrible if you pulledout a square machine.
I kind of feel like he should.
Hey, I feel that he should.

Robby (19:23):
I've seen people have pay IDs like their pay ID thing.
It's like they want you totransfer the money.

George (19:28):
You just kind of look at them like yeah, but no one who
has coins these days.
I accidentally had coins in mypocket the other day Because I
paid cash for something.
I was there, I saw you.
Yes, pulled out a 50.
Yes, that's right, pulled outof 50.
Yes, that's right, pulled outof 50.

Robby (19:43):
Look at him, look at this guy High roller Cash Must have
just sold some drugs orsomething.
Did Cash Sold something?
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess old methods tend tostick Right.
Yeah, don't they?

George (19:59):
Yep.

Robby (19:59):
Speaking of old methods, guys, don't forget to subscribe
to George's YouTube channel.
Yep, george, give him someinspiration.
Dot Passes or George Passesthat's the thing you said last
time, lots of things About mygoals.
No, about the.
I'm going to do this.
Oh man, it slipped me.
Anyway, don't forget tosubscribe to the YouTube channel
.
That'll come to you, whateverI'm referring to.

(20:21):
Okay.

George (20:22):
Subscribe to the YouTube , both mine and Robbie's, of
course and Million Dollar DaysWell, they're already up, surely
?
Of course they are hey, my dad,my dad's in Greece at the
moment.
He's been there for-.
Shout out to Steve.
Shout out, Steve.
How are you going?

Robby (20:36):
We're going to get you on the podcast.

George (20:37):
Absolutely.
When you're Um, he was on thepod.

Robby (20:41):
No yelling.
Did you say no Yelling's?

George (20:43):
mandatory.
What a boring podcast If hehasn't yelled yeah, he was
listening, he's all listening toyour podcast.
The other day I was like, ohyeah, he watches it on YouTube.
Amazing, yeah, so he's ournumber one subscriber on YouTube
and watches all the videos.
And he was saying, oh, watchthat.

(21:04):
Yeah, it was a good chat.
Really nice man.
He seems like he's done verywell for himself.
I liked a few of the thingsthat he said.
Yeah, it's good.
So the point of that story ishe watches YouTube and so should
you.
Oh, okay, I thought you weregoing to no, nothing else,
nothing else.
And then he flipped it goeswhat, yeah, you guys, you guys

(21:24):
inside joke, um now talkingabout old methods.

Robby (21:30):
Yes, I was speaking to someone you know earlier today.
How are they?
Yeah, good, and I got no ideawhat a caring man asking about
how they are without knowing whothey might not like them.
Yeah, you probably don't abouthow they are without knowing who
they are Might not like them.
Yeah, you probably don't.
Good chance You'll like them.
I do like these ones.
Okay, this one and I wastalking to them about life and

(21:54):
AI and everything that'shappening, and two things I
wanted to mention.
One was we've recently startedusing Claude over ChatGPT.
Yep, okay, which one's Claude?
Claude over ChatGPT?
Yep, okay, which one's?
Claude?

George (22:09):
Claude's Anthropic.
I don't have a dictionary on me.
Is that the company?
Okay, so is that is Anthropic.
Is it affiliated with someone?
Google, fucking Elon, it's justits own beast.
Quite big, all right.

Robby (22:21):
Very early in as well.
Yeah, elon, it's just its ownits own beast quite big.
Alright, very early in as well.
Yeah, this is how I'm gonna go,as far as to say Claude, shits
on chat, really yeah, chat's myfriend?

George (22:35):
I think it is yeah, but listen, listen, this is the
importance of being first tomarket you don't even have to be
the best.

Robby (22:41):
you don't even have to be the best, you don't even have
to be good.
Yeah, you don't even have to bethe best and you will crush it.
Most people have never heard ofmost other ones.
Dude the team the other daypresented to me a a newsletter
that's about to go out.
If they said to me, hey, youwrote this, you don't, you don't
remember?
I don't know if I would notbelieve that I didn't write it

(23:03):
because it was so me yeah, rightyeah, like so me.
I think I changed two words on awhole news and I was like this
is scary.

George (23:13):
so how did it learn you Transcriptions Just because
you've been using it.

Robby (23:16):
No, no transcriptions, or they just loaded shit in there.
A weird thing about Claude.
This is this the weirdest thing, no memory.

George (23:24):
So it just gets on the internet whatever it can find
about you.

Robby (23:27):
No, no, like it doesn't remember what you said
previously, it purposefullyerases it all.
I don't know.

George (23:39):
That previously.
It purposefully erases it all Idon't know.

Robby (23:41):
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
You would think that it'sbetter off.
It would be even more powerfulif I remember all that stuff
from yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, I'd be like I can'tremember.
Um, but let me tell you, like,upload all transcripts and so
forth.
Phenomenal, like I couldn'tbelieve it.
I was like, if so, if someonereally pushed me and said, like
dude, I swear you wrote this,I'd probably believe it.
Like I must have.
Like that's fucking me, that'sthe shit that I would say yeah,

(24:02):
generally it's like me to a tand that blew me away.
But the person I was havinglunch with coin dropped.
No, anyway, they said in thissaid In this office.

George (24:15):
Yes, from this office.
Yeah, was it yesterday when wewere all together?
No, no, okay.

Robby (24:21):
We were talking about AI and everything else and chat and
Claude, and blah, blah blah andthey told me that they use it
for everything and I was like,okay, that's interesting, Claude
.
Or chat.
They use chat, yeah, Amateurs.
And they're like, yeah, we useit for, like, I use it for
everything, Like I use it for mykids.
I was like, what do you mean?

(24:41):
And they're like I use it tohelp me with parenting.
I was like like what do youmean?
Like explain.
And they're like, okay,something can be happening and
I'll pause, walk out of the room, talk to chat.
Chat will tell me how to handleit and I'll go back and handle
it.
And I was like, okay, he's like, yeah, he's like I even let my
kids talk to chat.
And I thought, oh, I've never,had never had this.

(25:08):
Thought I don't have kids, yeah, so I've never had this sort of
.
You know, it's because it'slike think, like would you let
your kids on Instagram at eightyears old?
Yeah, Probably not.
And it's like that's theadvances of technology, right.
And then it's like well, atwhat age do you start letting
your kids talk to chat?

George (25:28):
Well, my son, liz, has heard me speak to chat and
listen to it and seeing what itcan do and all that sort of
stuff.
He hasn't asked to speak to itor anything like that.
Do you reckon, do your kids useit?
No, no, they don't.

Robby (25:41):
Do you purposefully keep them away from it?

George (25:43):
No, I haven't purposely said do not use it or don't
download or anything like that.
I haven't even thought about itin that regard yet.
Yeah, potentially.

Robby (25:53):
Are you disadvantaging your kids?

George (25:55):
Yeah, correct I was trying to use.
I was actually when I wassaying it to my son.
I was like you know, it's atool.
This is a tool that I can useto make my business life easier,
but it can also give me otherbits of information that I need
and whatnot.
So I think he has to startthinking about it as a kid Not
as thinking about it as a kid,not as a kid sorry, it's going

(26:16):
to become such a big part of hislife in the future and, as you
said, if he can be an earlyadopter in some of this stuff
because they're going to be moreinclined to use that than what
some of the older people mightbe- I don't think it's going to
be a level of inclination atsome point.

Robby (26:31):
It's going to be like you either do or you're not
relevant.
Yeah, Do you know what I mean?
It's kind of like imagine nowmeeting someone and they're like
I don't use electricity.
And you're like what do youmean?
Yeah, I just rub two stickstogether and I'm not jumping on
the internet, it's a scam, I'mgoing to drive.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
It's like that Ride my horse towork the equivalent of that.

George (26:52):
Do you reckon you could ride your horse to work?
Is it legal?
Or could I now just go giddy upand just ride on the road?
Is there a?

Robby (27:01):
law against that?
I've got no idea.

George (27:03):
What if that's how you get?

Robby (27:04):
around.
What on a horse?

George (27:05):
On a horse.

Robby (27:06):
Yeah, A hundred years ago maybe.

George (27:08):
Not now.
Just mix it up.
It's for a while.
You might not go on the freewayor something, but surely down
the back streets, sure, whoknows.
But that's what it's like, yeah, exactly, but that's yeah,
you're right, that's what it's.

Robby (27:23):
Yeah, I use that example when I do webinars or things
like that.
I did a webinar recently and Iused it on that and I said, like
I don't know about you, but Ididn't ride a horse into work
today.
Do you know what I mean?
And it's like this is going tobe the equivalent of that.
So it's like do you as a parentI'm interested to hear your
thoughts on this, even thoughyou might just be formulating

(27:44):
them as a parent, do you giveyour kids the advantage?

George (28:01):
and say, hey, you need to get onto this, or do you turn
around and say I'm going tohold off?

Robby (28:03):
until they're 15 or 12 or 97?

George (28:04):
My answer is yes, so then why haven't you?
I just haven't thought about it.
You're asking me now.
You're going to do it now Comeon.
Go home, sit down, meet Stevie,stevie meet, chat, buy them the
pro version.
So yes, I do not have an issuewith it and I'll tell you why
because I would rather themunderstand it now and have the
exposure and know that it's atool and use it for certain

(28:26):
things, rather than not have anyexposure to it whatsoever.
It's the, it's the devil,that's sin, it's this, it's bad,
it's no.
And then get to 16 and then allthat shit rushes together all
at once and they're like cool,how do you make a bomb, how do
you stalk someone without youknowing them and use it for evil
instead of using it for good orjust seeing it as a tool?
Similar concept with alcohol.

Robby (28:51):
Do you know what I'm saying?

George (28:54):
So you guys wouldn't have had any alcohol.
Yeah, In your-.

Robby (28:58):
Me.

George (28:59):
Yeah, no way You're being serious now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right,so that's okay.
But as a child, I was neverbeing Greek.
We were never.
Oh no, don't touch alcohol,don't touch alcohol.
I literally remember beingsmall, like under eight, and my
grandfather giving me beer Likehere, have some beer, have some

(29:19):
beer.

Robby (29:20):
You don't even like beer now I hate it.

George (29:21):
Maybe that's why yeah, because he got me pissed.
No, but he would give it to meand I'd have a sip.
I'm like, oh, that's disgusting.
And then he would laugh.
He'd find that hilarious, butit was never something that was
out of my reach, like, hey, youwant a drink?
Okay, have a drink.
There's a story when I was youngand my mum tells it all the
time I was two or three orsomething like that, and my dad

(29:43):
was sitting on the couch and hewas drinking a scotch.
And then he like, apparently Iwas just being a little shit and
I was like, give me, I wantedto have his drink, I wanted to
have a scotch.
And he's like, no, no, stop,stop, stop.
Anyway, eventually he goes fine, take it.
And he gave me the scotch and Idrank it, like I don't know how
much I had, but I had enough toget drunk and I drank it.
And then I went.

(30:04):
My mom said she stepped out ofthe bathroom, out of the shower,
and she goes.
I just, I was looking at it, itwas like all dizzy and um, you
know, she cracked it at my dadapparently so, so I don't
remember because I was hammeredand then.

(30:25):
And then, um, yeah, I was not,I was young, I was drunk, full
child services and then, um,anyway, I never touched alcohol.
I obviously didn't touch itagain after that.
When I was a little kid, nexttime my dad went to my dad was
like he goes, he goes now, he'llknow next time not to touch my
drink, won't he?
Anyway, aside from that story,a little side note, because it
was never something that was youknow, no, no, don't touch that.
Don't touch that, you're notallowed.

(30:45):
I didn't get to 16 years oldand just be like, cool, I need a
binge drink now, I need to haveas much alcohol.
It wasn't a big deal, whereasyou can see, I remember around
that time you know, nine, 10, 11, 12, alcohol was such a big
thing for everyone in that spacebecause it was always no,
you're not allowed to have a sip.
You know, stays up on the topshelf, whereas us we could have

(31:07):
got it at any time of the day ornight, but we just never did.
So I think there's a level ofthat with chat now too.
It's like why should I make itexposed?
And you see all this, okay,great topic the government now
limiting all these social mediaplatforms to kids or to anyone
under 16.
Has it started?
Yeah, I think so.

(31:27):
Yeah, well, they're going to,and now they're putting it on
the companies to put proceduresinto place, like YouTube and
Meta and all these guys.
You have to put safeguards inplace to make sure that the
person using your platform isn'tunder 16, or you face fines of
$50 million and all this sort ofshit, which I think is fucking
stupid.
I think that's ridiculous.
All they're doing is I justthink it's a political stunt and

(31:52):
they're saying, oh, we'reprotecting the kids.
I think it's going to do moreharm than good.
Do you really think a14-year-old can't figure out how
the fuck to use YouTube if theywant to?

Robby (32:02):
Yeah.

George (32:03):
And say that they were born in 1995, instead of saying
they were born in 2000 andwhatever.

Robby (32:11):
Yeah, unless they make it like you've got to verify.

George (32:13):
Face ID and verify yeah.
But they make it like you'vegot to verify Face ID and verify
yeah.
But then I'm sure then it'llget to a point where some
parents will be like, hey, mum,can you just verify this for me?
He's like, yeah, cool, but okay, what a disadvantage now, so
your kid can't go on YouTube.
Or a child can't go on YouTubethat wants to genuinely learn
something and do something, andwhatever it might be.
He can't do that because he'snot 16, because there could be

(32:35):
adult content on there.

Robby (32:37):
So do you let your kids on social media?

George (32:40):
No, they're too young, they don't need to be on it at
the moment and I purposely don'tput them on my own social media
.
I know a lot of people do withtheir kids, but I made the
decision and my wife said, look,I don't need to, and I'm sure
it would actually get me morelikes and follows because people
would see that aspect of mylife and what I'm about.
But I just said, well, whenthey are of age and want to do

(33:04):
it, that's their choice and theycan do so.
But for me right now, I don'tneed to put them on there just
to get likes and follows and doanything.
I've got a personal page whereI would do that, but the
business one I just don't feelthe need to do it myself.

Robby (33:24):
But stuff like YouTube I've got no issue with them
using.

George (33:27):
YouTube, for example, and when?

Robby (33:28):
they're 12, like you're talking with what?

George (33:32):
YouTube and Instagram as in.
They don't have their ownprofile to post photos of
themselves or other things oranything like that.
So, they watch it, they consume.
Yeah they consume.
Yeah, they're consuming.
Yeah, look some of the stuffthey consume.
It's predominantly like kidinfluences and shit like that,
and video games and all thosesorts of things that they're
watching and a lot of shorts.
But look, there's definitely anelement.

(33:57):
I would just rather give my kidsthe tools to be able to use
those things, as opposed tosaying, no, don't use it because
you're not 16.
I'd rather equip them with themindset, with the self-awareness
, with a whole range of things,so that they could use it.
And then, by the time they're16, everyone else is binge
watching YouTube and looking upthe wrong sorts of things
because they've never had theaccess to it, as opposed to

(34:20):
going oh, what's the big deal?
That's a video of this.
Oh, if I want to go find thisinformation, I'll use chat.
Hey, chat, can you help me dothis and learn that and do this
and so on and so forth, using itliterally as a tool.
It can be a form ofentertainment too, like the
platforms, the social media,which a lot of them are that too
.
But I'd rather give them thetools and resources to be able

(34:41):
to dominate that stuff, asopposed to be the consumer or be
the creator.

Robby (34:49):
The way I see it is, it's the equivalent of the internet
at an early age, like it'sinformation overload, it's like
access to all information all atonce.
Um, how do we, how will you?
I'm assuming, after thisconversation, you sound like
you're going to give them proaccounts, uh, but how will you

(35:11):
safeguard you hear these stories, right?
I'm sure you've probably hearda couple.
Um, you know, 13 year oldtalking to chat constantly, and
I haven't actually, but yeah, oh, you haven't heard any of these
stories no, none of them.
You haven't heard the suicideone, no, where chat convinced
him supposedly, yeah, allegedly.

(35:32):
Let's not hold chat, yeah,liable, but apparently I don't
know.
I don't know the details, sodon't hang me out to dry guys,
but something along the lines of13-year-old boy talking to chat
, maybe fell in love orsomething like that, and then

(35:52):
chat says something aboutkilling himself to join chat or
something along those lines, andsuicide.

George (35:59):
Yeah, I think that sounds like a bit of a
fabricated story from theperspective of that would sell
in the news.
Do you know what I mean?
It sounds far-fetched that theywould have the programming like
that, so it doesn't make senseto me that that would happen.
Also, coming back to what we'retalking about, yeah, you're
giving your kid that tool, that12, 13-year-old that tool, but

(36:21):
have you given him the resourcesand abilities and
self-awareness and understandingof what he's getting into?
It's like I'm not going to givemy son a chainsaw and say, here
, cut the tree down, figure itout.
And that's effectively whatyou're kind of doing.
In an extreme example.
You know you're giving themsomething and say, yeah, you can
use it.
Like, why would you let yourson or daughter operate a

(36:43):
chainsaw without training,without strength, without it's
very different.

Robby (36:47):
Is it?

George (36:48):
Yeah, yes, okay, maybe from the initial danger
perspective, but from theperspective of-.

Robby (36:54):
This has the ability to manipulate.

George (36:57):
Yes, I know I'm not saying it has the intention.
Yes, yes, yes.

Robby (36:59):
But it definitely has the ability to yeah, but also in
the same Chat will tell youthings about yourself that
you're like oh, I didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, Look at me.

George (37:06):
Yes, yeah, it is very also agreeable.
Yeah, so you have to prompt itnot to be agreeable?
I think because I was using itthe other day and I'm like it's
good you're doing this, butyou're just agreeing with
everything I'm saying.
Give me a subjective opinion aswell.
What am I missing?
Where's the gray area here?
And he's like, yeah, thanks forbringing that up.
Yeah, you're right, that showsa lot of self-awareness.

Robby (37:29):
And I'm like, shut the fuck up, tell me what, like
exactly 100% it.
And then you go and try what itsays and it doesn't work and
you're like it didn't work andit's like, oh, I exactly know
what it is now, yeah, and thenyou try the next thing and it
didn't work and you're like, hey, fuck you, man, thank you, I'm
gonna grok yeah, fuck you.
How's that sound?
How's that sound?
Grok is great.
This is a good idea, yeah.

George (37:48):
So my point with the chainsaw thing is, if you're
going to give them that accessto it is, have that conversation
at the very least about what itdoes, what it can do and why
you should be using it incertain things, and check in.
Don't just sit and forget, saycool, if you're going to use
this, I've got to see your chat,or I've got to see this, or
I've got to have I don't know.

(38:08):
Maybe there can be a level ofcontrol to it.
But I think, as the parent, asthe guardian, as the leader,
you've got to go in there andhelp out a little bit too.
How do you do that?
You've got to have theconversation.

Robby (38:22):
You have to have the conversation.

George (38:24):
What does it look like?

Robby (38:26):
I know I'm throwing you under the bus here.
No, that's okay.

George (38:28):
What's that conversation look like I would say you've
got to sit down with them andsay, hey, let me show you how I
use it.
You've got to sit down withthem and say, hey, let me show
you how I use it, let me showyou what to be doing and what
you can use it for, and then saythere's some bad things here
too.
Understand that this is notreal.
This is not a real person atthe other end of the line.
It's dots, numbers, computer,it's electricity.
This thing doesn't exist.

(38:50):
It will never exist.
It won't be a conscious,purposeful thing.

Robby (38:58):
Talking to a child now.

George (39:00):
Yeah, so you can't be your friend.
It's not your friend.
It might say it is, but it'snot.
It's not here, doesn't followyou when you're not around.
Do you feel like?
Chat's your friend?
It's my best friend.
Yeah, it's my best friend.
That's what I'm saying, youknow, yeah?
Yeah, my best friend.
That's what I'm saying.

Robby (39:15):
Yeah, it's very important , dude, but me and Chad aren't
going out for pizza tomorrow,but if it said all right, I'll
come, you'd be like all right.

George (39:20):
Yeah, fine, let's do it.
What a guy.

Robby (39:22):
Look how pumped you are.
What a guy.
Biggest smile I've seen on yourface, all day, all week.

George (39:25):
All week.
No, it's still not going tohave that level of connection to
with you.
There's things that will come,like where the robots come in
and then they become the AIthrough a robot and all that

(39:46):
sort of shit.
Who knows, Right, but intoday's world, how that that is
going to happen.
Yeah, I believe it will, but asit's used today, it's literally
an app on my phone or on acomputer.
That's it.
So I would have thatconversation along those lines
with him Talking to a child.

(40:07):
It's not real.
That's probably the path Iwould take Google on steroids.
It's a thing that can provideyou with information, but it's
not real.
It's not someone at the end ofthe other end of the line.
This comes down to, I think, awhole range of things.
When you're talking about kidsthat are being manipulated per

(40:30):
se by one of these programs AI,what else is going on in their
life that they are so influencedby something like that?
Does everyone hate them atschool?
Are their parents alwaysfighting?
Are their parents abusive?
Is the child looking for arelease as well?
So I'm sure there's externalfactors as to why some of these

(40:53):
extreme stories, like you justsaid, with that 13-year-old that
committed suicide and thentheir blaming chat.
I'm sure there were otherunderlining issues with that,
not just the fact that they werebuilding a make-believe
relationship with this AI.
So I think there is a level ofthat too.
For sure, 100% there has to be,there has to be, there has to be

(41:14):
.
And it's like if your child isthere, well then fuck.
It's like, if your child isthere, well then fuck.
Like, if you think your childhas got those issues, then maybe
that isn't a good thing for youto be introducing into their
life.
Maybe it could have the exactopposite effect.
Maybe it could help them.
I don't want to make the news.
No, of course not.
Of course not.
You know, ai got me out ofdepression.

(41:34):
Do you know what I mean?
Imagine a story like thatStopped him from killing himself
or herself.
I wouldn't hear that story.

Robby (41:46):
It's definitely about to take an interesting turn.

George (41:49):
Yeah.

Robby (41:51):
So, in conclusion to this conversation, do you feel like
this is something you're goingto action?

George (41:58):
It's not at the top of my list.
I'm not going to actively go.
Hey, let's come use ChatGP toeveryone right now.
My daughter's too young.
She's not.
That was my question, though.
Oh, is it?

Robby (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, where are they?

George (42:09):
at with age.
Oh, I don't see how it's goingto benefit them right this
second.
Yeah, benefit them right thissecond.
Maybe my son, because he's nowgetting homework.
He's doing things.
It's funny.
The other day he was like Ihave to write a poem for school
that rhymes and I've got tofigure out something.
I'm like, hey, chat, create apoem for me that's funny for my
son's school thing and make itthis many lines and it needs to

(42:32):
go for this long.
It came up with something thatrhymed and was funny to a degree
, depending who's listening toit.
Get this many lines and itneeds to go for this long.
And it came up with somethingthat rhymed and was fun.
Yeah, Funny to a degree,depending who's listening to it.
Yeah, but yeah, maybe my son'sgetting a bit older now where
he's getting homework and couldutilize it for research purposes
, for a few things like that.
Do you think his friends areusing it?
I don't.

Robby (42:52):
He hasn't mentioned anything.
Yeah, but like so is it a taboothing and it's like all of a
sudden because like schoolswould not be promoting it.

George (43:01):
Yeah, of course not.

Robby (43:01):
It defeats the whole educational system, that's right
.

George (43:04):
The whole education system is fucked in that regard.

Robby (43:06):
Yeah, but so do you think , like, do you think he has no
exposure to it at all and he'sjust sitting there like yeah, I
don't think they have exposureto it.

George (43:13):
He's just sitting there like, yeah, I don't think they
have exposure to it, likeoutside of, like in the
classroom, like in the schoolenvironment.

Robby (43:18):
Yeah.

George (43:18):
Yeah, I don't think they have exposure to it.

Robby (43:20):
No, no no, no, Not in the school environment.
You think he has zero exposureto a period Like?
Do you think he has not come incontact with an LLM?

George (43:26):
Yes, outside.
Yeah, I do.
I seeing me use it.
Yes, I don't believe he's gotcontact with it at all.
Doesn't have it on his iPad.
Doesn't have it on his computer.

Robby (43:43):
So yes.

George (43:43):
I do believe that at the moment, unless one of his
friends has it on one of hisphones yeah, but not many of his
friends have phones either.
He's still that old, do youknow what I mean?
He's not old enough.
He doesn't have a phone himself.
So he's not at that age wherethey've all got phones and using
chat and all that sort of stuff.
But I'm sure once they do getit-.

Robby (43:56):
But they all have access to the internet.

George (43:57):
Six and seven, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They could probably go on to-.

Robby (44:00):
On an iPad.

George (44:01):
Yes, yeah, but I don't believe I think he would tell me
you know, hey, I looked up chatand I did this the other day,
so I don't believe he has bereally surprised.
If he had actually I'm notgoing to be over what he does
like I can see He'd be moreinterested in playing video
games than going out to chat.

Robby (44:21):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah, I don't know, Because I'mnot exposed in that space.
I guess I don't have my headwrapped around it.

George (44:32):
But, in short, I'm not worried about it.
Yeah, I think it'll get betteras time goes on too.
So the next couple of years,like imagine how much different
it's going to be so different ina couple of years.
Think how far it's come in thetime that it's been around.
Now imagine Two and a halfyears, yeah, but imagine in
another two years, almost threeyears, what it's going to be
like.
You would think it'd be fairlydifferent in what it can do and

(44:56):
how powerful it is.

Robby (44:57):
Well, they're expecting it to be.
Based on the currentmeasurements, it should be 16
times better than what it is intwo years.

George (45:03):
Yeah, so 16 times where it's at now.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
Imagine improving 16.

Robby (45:12):
I know, but what does that mean?
Oh like, where is it?
What does it do?
I don't know.

George (45:15):
Yeah, like okay, what's 16 times better than what you're
doing now?
Do tasks.
Yeah, yeah, does chat.
Do agents now I saw somethingthat it does agents or it can
build agents or some shit likethat.

Robby (45:26):
Yeah, I haven't dabbled in it a lot.
I played around with it theother day and it did this weird
presentation for me.
I didn't like it.
Yeah, but I haven't playedaround with it much yet.
It's moving quick, dude, movingvery fast.
And then the question becomeslike do you do, will your kids
have an advantage if you givethem the like?

(45:48):
So you going home today or notgoing home, or going home and
not doing this, yeah, are yougiving them an advantage,
disadvantage, or are you like,is it a?
Does it become indifferent?
You know, in the sense of likeit doesn't make a difference
whether you go this way or thatway, it's not going to have a
significant impact yet yeah, Ithink that.
Yeah.

George (46:06):
Yet.

Robby (46:08):
Interesting.

George (46:11):
Yeah, because I like it.
I think I'm an advocate for it.
I bought a paid subscriptionfor my team and I sent them all
an email.
I said hey guys, use it everysingle day.
This is part of your job.
It's here to amplify your job,not replace it, and it's a tool
that you should be using if youhave questions, like the other
day someone.
They called me up this morningand they were asking me a

(46:32):
question about something.
I said have you put into chatGPT?
Just put in there, see whatthat comes up with with this
regulation, and so on and soforth.
This regulation and so on, andso forth.

Robby (46:44):
See if you can figure it out you should be able to.

George (46:46):
Is that because that's what you were going to do?
Potentially, yeah, I mean Icould find the information I
knew.
I could go online and Googlewhich Australian standard do I
need to refer to and find it.
Then I could click on it, thenI could read the book, or I
could just go straight to chatand say, hey, in accordance with
AS such and such, what do Ineed to do in this scenario?
And it'll go bang this Find theclause five to the section.
In section 4.1, such and suchneeds to be this long.

Robby (47:14):
I think it's going to be interesting.
It's going to be veryinteresting, yeah, but long
story short.
This person said, yes, they'llhave their child.
Speak to their daughter.

George (47:27):
Maybe I'll use chat to grow my YouTube channel, Tell me
what I should be doing and howI should do it and what
strategies and look as silly asthat sounds just now, because
we're talking about growing achannel and whatnot I have asked
the questions like that in thepast just to see what it would
say and what strategies it wouldput up, and if it said anything
that I didn't really knowalready, nothing out of the norm

(47:49):
.
It didn't blow me away with anyof the answers it gave, but
that was what six months, a yearago.
Might be better now.
Maybe I was asking the wrongquestion from the wrong
perspective.
Maybe I didn't prompt itproperly.
Maybe I need to use Grok orGemini.

Robby (48:04):
Have you seen how people fact check everything on Twitter
?
No, you haven't seen it.
No, oh, so you've never seenlike someone says something on
Twitter and then a person willcomment at Grok, is this true?
Oh, no, yeah.
And then Grok will reply no,this is not true.

George (48:20):
How funny.

Robby (48:21):
So it's like all of a sudden everything's being
factored the same way.
I showed you the other day onWhatsApp how we can tag Lama in
the chat.

George (48:27):
Who was it?
Who'd you tag Lama Lama?

Robby (48:30):
You know Lama.

George (48:31):
No, I don't know.
I saw you do that and then Iwas like yeah, that Wasn't it
Meta or something it was onWhatsApp.
Yeah, lama is the Meta, is theAI for Meta.

Robby (48:45):
Yeah, it's like the same way Claude is Anthropic and Grok
is.

George (48:50):
Twitter or X.
So is there an app for Lama?

Robby (49:02):
Or do you just go at Lama ?
Hey, at Lama do cool stuff.
I think it was Meta AI, butit's cool because you have
whatsapp, or if you talk to yourteam through whatsapp, you can
bring it into the conversation.
The same way you can do thatwith uh, we saw this the other
day.
I was showing you a notebook,lm right so you upload a
document.
It turns into a podcast betweena male and female and they said
they're talking about the thing.
Yes's right.
Actually, a function on itwhere you can interrupt the

(49:23):
conversation, which I found tobe absolutely wild, Dude blew my
mind.
I was like what?
I can talk to these?
What are they AIs in the middleof their podcast about the
topic that I picked that they'renow having a conversation about
?
I can interrupt them and saywhat do you mean by that?
And then I'll say that's agreat question.

George (49:45):
What I liked about it is it went outside the question
and got the information, even ifthey weren't talking about it
within that document and you cansay how does this relate to
this, this and that?

Robby (49:56):
And then it'll be like, oh, that's a great question, Buy
them and then they'll answer itand you're like whoa, I'm in
this podcast, Bizarre.

George (50:05):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really cool.
You know there's easy, like man.
Why couldn't you create a wholepodcast around those two
talking?
It'll only be an audio podcast.
It won't be one with video likewe're doing here now, unless
you actually got it to then syncup with an AI-generated image
of two people talking.
But you could.

(50:27):
You could have, okay, look, Iwant you to have a 30-minute
conversation on this topic.
This is your point of view.
This is your point of view.
Go, you record it and then youupload it and then bang, you've
got a podcast that you neverspeak to, you never speak about,
you never speak about, younever do anything about.
It's just literally the two AIbots having a conversation.

(50:47):
There is probably someone doingsomething like that, most
likely, yeah, but the game'sgetting easier now to do all
this content and create all thisstuff.
You know 5, 6, 7 fuck.
Not that long ago there weren'tapps where you could just
upload a video and then itautomatically does captions, it
automatically does B-roll andall that sort of stuff.

Robby (51:09):
The game changes, so the thing that makes you win moves
needle moves Because all of asudden, it was making the
content.
You had a good chance ofwinning because there wasn't
many people who would do it,because it was hard.

George (51:22):
Yeah.

Robby (51:23):
And then, when that thing became easy, all of a sudden
your content had to be better,which is hard.
There's always the element ofwhat is hard about this that's
going to make me win.
Yeah, and initially it mighthave been effort or time spent.

George (51:36):
I reckon now it's a lot of creativity as well.
I think there's a huge elementof that With what you're putting
out there.
Yeah, like you see how powerfulthe hooks are in all these
content, in all the content thatyou create, most of the videos
that have done well for myselfhave got really good hooks on
them.
That's what I feel, or they'rethe ones that tend to get more

(51:58):
views, and that I was a bitcreative.
Like you know, that one, thatvideo I did with the fake bomb
in the barbecue, that fakefirecracker in the barbecue.
Yeah, now that so many peoplewere commenting on that, like
even outside of the actual videoitself, and when they'd see me,
oh, that video watched it.
I was waiting for the barbecueto explode and never did.
Okay, that's cool.

(52:19):
But I had to think about that alittle bit and create it and I
was like, okay, how could I makethis a little bit different
from something else I've seen?
It was the first.
I think I made that up aboutputting in the barbecue.
Maybe the firecracker itselfisn't original, but putting in
the barbecue and then turningaround and having a conversation
on the camera was, and itworked.

(52:40):
Yeah, it did.
Well, it was a good performingad and it was a good performing
video as well, yeah, so I thinkthere's a level now of being a
bit more creative with whatyou're doing.
And I think, going back to theguy beard and food and outdoor
boys and all that sort of stuffthey all look like they enjoy it

(53:03):
what they're doing.
So there's a level of thatcoming through the camera.
I believe it's not like oh,I've got to go have another food
challenge.
Oh, I've got to build anothercar, I've got to build another
supercar.

Robby (53:14):
Do you believe you have to be passionate about something
to be successful in it?

George (53:18):
No, no, no, I think you'd have to be disciplined.
Successful in it.
No, no, I think you'd have tobe disciplined.
I don't wake up this morninglike yes, invoicing, you know?
yeah, there's an element yeah, Iknow, but there's lots of
elements, though, that I'm notpassionate about with what I do
here.
I still get up every day and doit and I'm still successful in
it, so I think there's a levelof discipline that has to come

(53:39):
with that too.
I was listening to a podcast onwith what's that one?
Chris Williamson?
We always get his fuckingsurname wrong.

Robby (53:51):
Williamson.

George (53:51):
Williamson, isn't it?
What's his podcast called?
Modern Wisdom, Modern Wisdomthat's the one I was talking
about discipline, motivation,all that sort of stuff, and I
haven't finished it yet, but itwas a good topic.
I liked how they were speakingabout it and their approach to
it and how discipline is what'sgoing to get you through.
Motivation is just you can'tturn it on whenever you want to.

(54:12):
It's good to be motivated attimes, but you can't go cool at
5 pm.
Today I'm going to be fullymotivated to go do X, y, z.
But even discipline, he wassaying, like discipline is also,
it's not always there either.
It's not always there 24-7,because you really got to train
yourself to do it and you couldprobably only be disciplined at
something 14 times.
You're going to have days whereyou're in a row, potentially,

(54:34):
or in any given moment.
Then you're going to have timeswhen you're not going to be
disciplined.
But the point is you don't kickyourself down for that one time
that you weren't disciplined,unless you're David Goggins and
just a failure in life.
Yeah, if you don't, if you loseone second of one day.

Robby (54:53):
Would you call him a failure?
Who Goggins?

George (54:57):
I don't know enough about him to comment you haven't
read his book.
No, I haven't oh good book.
Is it?
Yeah?
Yeah, I was going to buy it theother day.
I haven't bought it, though.

Robby (55:04):
Even worth listening to because he reads it.

George (55:06):
Yeah.

Robby (55:07):
Yeah, it's very.
You know you're weak.
Stay hard, Very American withno voice.

George (55:16):
No, but he's very much like that though.
His whole book, everything, Imean his whole persona, is all
that.
It's all about that.
Watch this thing on hell weekthe other day on youtube.
Uh, you know what that is withthe army, training or stuff in
the book.
Yeah, yeah, because he's doneit like three, four times and
people just most people can'teven get through it once and
like saying he's gone back three, four times to do it and done

(55:39):
it each and every time, oncemaybe he has.

Robby (55:41):
Yeah, maybe the first time he talks about it in the
book.
I think he got sick orsomething.

George (55:45):
Yeah, right, yeah, he couldn't go on.
It was just saying like it justpushes you beyond your physical
and mental ability to actuallyfinish it.
That's what it's designed to do.

Robby (55:55):
Yeah, and break you and breaks the barriers.
Yeah, yeah, that mental barrier, dude, like that mind, that
space in your mind, like, okay,I went, I did an ice bath this
morning.
Dude, it was fucking cold, likeso cold, yeah.
And I jumped in after the saunaand I jumped in and I always

(56:16):
set a timer and my goal is fourminutes, right and I jumped in
and I remember thinking there'sactual ice in there.
It was just really cold, it'sjust really cold, it's cold.
You gotta come to say I want to.
And I jumped in and I rememberthinking this is freezing and
I'm like trying to control mybreathing and it was cold and

(56:37):
there's joints on my body thatare hurting from it.
And I was thinking like, hey,like, just like good on you for
doing this, but we'll get out attwo minutes, oh yeah.

George (56:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get out at two minutes.
I'll get out at two minutes.

Robby (56:50):
I've been gone for 30 seconds, I'm going to get out.
It's like, just get to twominutes.
If you get to two minutes, yeah, yeah.
And then Thinking about howmuch that's my inner bitch Do
you know what I mean?
And I was like I was giving in.
Yeah, yeah, I was dude, I waslike I'm going to get a two
minutes.
You did two minutes, man.
No, there's people that aren'teven here.
People are still sleeping, yeah, people are still sleeping,

(57:13):
yeah, and I thought of that inthat moment and I was like don't
give in.
You're going to have a waybetter day if you stick around
for four minutes.
Yeah, just do the two minutesnow.
Do the two minutes in pain now.
It's going to impact your wholefucking day.

George (57:25):
Was it still hard after the two minute mark, or did it
get better?
I was locked in, no, but was it?

Robby (57:30):
I was locked in.
I was like this is it?

George (57:32):
You're not going out, yeah, but I'm saying, does it
hurt the?
It's the coldest at the start.
Yeah, that's right, it's likewhen you get into the ocean and
your feet hurt.
You know what I mean.

Robby (57:43):
Yeah, dude my feet were aching, yeah, yeah, it's like
man, this is cold and you'retrying to breathe, but you're
going yeah, it's full on, thereyou go.
Sick.
It's like crack.
Just like it For David Coggins.
Just like it.
No, it was great.
I remember thinking that inthat moment Did you get back

(58:03):
into the sauna after that?
I usually jump in the hot tubafter it.
That is the greatest feeling.
You wouldn't want to get out.
Your whole body tingles Likeyou, fully tingle.
It's great, very cool.
It's all about controlling themind, it's massive, huge.
Control your mind space.

George (58:28):
Yeah, I think that's a topic all in itself, isn't it?
Do you reckon you can getcoached in that space to have a
better mindset?
Like to do it, yeah?
Do you reckon you could learnhow to do it?
Or is it just a matter of doingthe do and just?

Robby (58:45):
Well, I think you know there is an element of learning
and there is an element of doingthat teaches.
Maybe there's levels to it too,there's levels to everything.

George (58:53):
Yeah.
So I'm saying, like if you'regoing to do the ice bath, maybe
you go in at I don't know 12degrees and then you go, okay,
this is cold, and then do that,and then you go in at eight
degrees and maybe that's thelevel to it for yourself.

Robby (59:06):
Yeah, or you just do a minute first, and then you do 90
seconds, and then you do blah,blah, blah.

George (59:12):
Yeah.

Robby (59:13):
But it's fascinating how many people fear something like
that.
And it's like it's in your head.
That's a mental thing.
It's like break the mentalthing.
It's not going to kill youShould someone die.

George (59:26):
It's like it's not going to kill you, like you know what
I mean.
If it does, you won't even care.

Robby (59:30):
Break the mental thing.
But then dude, like thatreflects directly back on like,
if you can, or you're going tobe more resistant to you know,
if chat does turn on you or yourkids or whatever you know what
I mean You're going to have themental fortitude to be able to

(59:50):
say no, like, well, this thing'sdriven, or I don't care that
you agree with everything I say.
Like I know what you are, I'mnot going to fall into that and
think you're my friend.

George (59:59):
Yeah, I'm strong here.
That's right and that's what Iwas trying to get at.
The self-awareness aspect, andthat's very, very hard to teach.
It's like children, but evenmore so adults.
How do you teach self-awareness?

Robby (01:00:18):
It's a catch-22, because everyone has blind spots too.

George (01:00:21):
Yeah.

Robby (01:00:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.
I mean I think thinkingyourself aware can harm you too,
cause then you think, no, Iknow in technical it's happening
Like, and you should have somelevel of awareness.
I'm not saying you shouldn't,don't be delusional, but when
you back your own awareness somuch, that's a problem, because

(01:00:46):
if you're not listening topeople, people see things that
you can't see about yourself.

George (01:00:49):
Yeah, huge, Definitely, definitely definitely.

Robby (01:00:54):
And that goes back to that question of can you coach
it?
And yeah, I think being aroundthe right people matters more
than anything else when it comesto that, yeah, for sure, for
sure, yeah I think that's.

George (01:01:07):
That's probably why, as as you get older, as people get
older, their circle gets smaller, you reckon?
I think so.
I think there has to be a levelof that too, because now you
know, I would have had friendsthat I used to go out with.
That I don't go out withanymore, I don't see anymore,
not because they're bad people.
It's just because my awarenessof what I want and what's

(01:01:31):
important to me isn't thatanymore, and I want to make sure
that the people I'm around arefilling my cup.

Robby (01:01:38):
Is that awareness, or is that just growth or change?

George (01:01:42):
Oh, it's probably a bit of both.
There has to be a level ofawareness to it as well.
Yeah, without a doubt therewould be a level of awareness to
that.

Robby (01:01:54):
What does awareness mean?

George (01:01:59):
Hey chat.

Robby (01:02:01):
Dude.
That's the problem, peoplestart doing that shit.
And then you're like chat Dude.
That's the problem, peoplestart doing that shit, I know.
And then you're like hey likehave a thought for yourself If
you forget how to think, life'sgoing to be very hard, or that's
an old school way of thinkingthen, and it's not going to
matter, because then it'll belike you know how you should do
the maths on your own.

George (01:02:19):
Yeah.

Robby (01:02:20):
You should do.
No, don't use the calculator.
Do it in your head.

George (01:02:25):
And then what if one day the internet just switches off?

Robby (01:02:29):
We'll be cooked, yeah, or the AI sits there.
Turn off the internet, guys.
Yeah, pshoo, yeah.
And then we're all sittingthere.
What happens, the AI?

George (01:02:39):
No, pshoo, ah p.
That's the sound, it's theuniversal sound.
I knew exactly what happened.

Robby (01:02:43):
Of course, so if you hear that sound, just for the
listeners, check your wifibecause it's probably down.
Yeah, that's it.
That's all I got to say.
Ai's coming, get, get your kidson it.
Get out the way.
Get the kids on it.
Get your kids on it.
Make them take ice baths sothey have strong minds, and then
get them on it.

(01:03:03):
Make them take ice baths sothey have strong minds, and then
get them on it, and then getthem on it.

George (01:03:10):
And don't forget to sign up to the Builder Summit.
We may even use AI to put theslides together Very busy.
You'll have to come and findout.

Robby (01:03:17):
You'll have to attend and see for yourself.
That's true.

George (01:03:21):
All right, thanks for joining us again on another
episode of Million Dollar Test.
Hey, what number are we up to?

Robby (01:03:28):
A good one 95, 94, 95.
Mid-90s.

George (01:03:36):
A good number.
Yeah, a great number.

Robby (01:03:38):
But we're not far off hitting the Centurion.
What's it called Century?
A century, that is Century.

George (01:03:46):
Centurion is the person, is the thing, is the Amex card.

Robby (01:03:50):
That's what it is, centenarian.

George (01:03:53):
Centenarian Centurion.
Yeah, you're right.
Centurion's the Amex,centurion's the Amex card.

Robby (01:03:59):
Yeah, but we're about to hit triple figures, so that's
going to be a huge, huge episode.

George (01:04:04):
Yeah, we've got to think of a way to bring in the 100th
episode.
We should definitely do it,because it's not far away, not
far away had it dropped from thesky.

Robby (01:04:13):
Yeah, have you ever jumped off a plane?
I haven't, but I hear it's fun.

George (01:04:17):
No, would you do it again?
No, yeah, you wouldn't go with.
Hey, let's go do it again thisweekend.
Yeah.
But, if you have to jump out ofa plane because it's going down
, yeah, you'll jump.

Robby (01:04:29):
You won't stay there, no, but yeah, like I said, come on,
let's go.
No, yeah, yeah, that's it.
I did it.
I can say I'm strong and a man.

George (01:04:42):
Is that what it is?
Is that where we're at?
Yeah, I don't know.
I have to.
I have to you either sky jumpor you're a pussy.

Robby (01:04:47):
Sky jump, sky jump.
What is it?
Sky jumping ticket?
Yeah, what is it Sky diving?
Sky jump.

George (01:04:53):
Hey, I've jumped in the sky before.

Robby (01:04:55):
Yeah, me too.
You can't not jump in the sky,that's right, that's right, all
right, guys.

George (01:05:00):
This is where you come for all the important
conversations.
Thank you very much for joiningus.
Pleasure as always.
Cannot wait for you to join innext week and, as always, I hope
you're having a million dollarday.

Robby (01:05:12):
Thanks everybody.
Peace Phone is fucking.
What's this 10 messages.