Breaking Through Mental Barriers

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George (00:01):
Have you ever had days where Start again, start again
Because I moved the mic?
Yeah, me too.
Have you ever had days whereyou don't want to get out of bed
from a perspective of notusually you're tired, but just
because you're weighed down,like, oh, I can't face the day?

Robby (00:16):
What's the difference Between being weighed down and
tired?

George (00:21):
Tired is you're just tired, like you just want to
sleep, like you're in your goodspot, like I'm talking, there's
shit going on and you don't wantto get out of bed because then
you've got to face the day.

Robby (00:30):
Yeah.

George (00:31):
Have you ever had days like that?

Robby (00:33):
Yes, yeah, heaps.
I also have days where I knowhow much is on the next day and
I know that there's so much workand I'm freaking out about how
I'm going to get it all like geton top of it all yeah, and I
can't sleep that night.
Yes, and then the next day I'mcooked because of it.
And it's like catch 22.

(00:53):
Yeah, Like I'm trying to catchup on sleep so I can get more
shit done tomorrow.
But I can't catch up on sleepbecause I'm stressing out.

George (01:02):
Yes, I know exactly.
I know that exact feeling and Ihad it the other day, I had it
this week.
I feel like I've had it for thelast six months, but I haven't.
But yeah, I had it this week.
Man Just heaps going on.
Then, on top of that, you getpeople calling in sick or
something's coming up, and thenyou're like God, how do you
manage all this all at the sametime?

Robby (01:22):
Yeah, and then someone wants something silly and
they're like I need a new mouse.
And then you're like, get thefuck out, get out you throw your
mouse at them.
Because I don't care about anyof that.
Now, like that's number problem397.
Yeah, they've got 396.
More bigger problems yeah,exactly, bigger ones too.

George (01:41):
And it happened to me this week or yeah, it was this
week and I was in bed and I wasjust like, fuck, I've got to get
up, I've got to do this, oh god, I've got to do that.
And it was just running throughmy mind as I was getting up and
then, like, had a bit of aepiphany not an epiphany, but it
was like like, what are yougonna do?
Just gonna stay in bed all day?
Get the fuck up.
You got shit to do, like, andthat that was actually what got
me out of bed.
It wasn't like me being in bedfor that prolonged period of

(02:03):
time wasn't making any of thatgo away, like no one else was
going to do it.
I had to get up and do it.
It's like fucking, get up, getit done.
And I did.
I got up, I got ready, got tothe car, got to the office and I
got stuck into it.
And you know, sometimes theobstacle is the way, like, get
into it, get stuck into it andjust got to do what you got to

(02:24):
do.
There's things you control,there's things that you can't
control, and that's what I foundwith that day, you know, and it
doesn't make it less stressful,like I still got heaps on.
But yeah, just that quick shiftin focus definitely helped me
to get through that.

Robby (02:40):
Do you ever feel like you avoid things thinking?

George (02:44):
they're going to go away ?

Robby (02:46):
I think so.

George (02:47):
If I'm going to be completely honest.

Robby (02:49):
If I just duck this a few times, hopefully they won't ask
you.

George (02:52):
Yeah, it's like problems delayed is problems intensified
you know, and it's like that'swhat I feel, that I do that from
time to time, not always, butfrom time to time.
And the funny thing is, when Iactually bite the bullet and do
it, it's never as bad as youmake it out to be in your head,
that's for sure.
I've had to do this massive.
I've got some key people awayat the moment.

(03:13):
Normally I would behand-passing that shit to them
and say, hey, do this, that'syour job, not mine.
They're not here becausethey're overseas on annual leave
and all that sort of stuff, andpeople are away and all that
sort of jazz.
And I had to do it like therewas no avoiding it.
This task had to be done.
And funny thing was this taskthat I had to do it was an
application.
I won't go into big dullbecause it'll be boring for

(03:33):
everyone, but had I done itmyself, as in unassisted with ai
, let's call it so chat, chatgptthis application probably would
have taken me, I reckon, a goodsolid five days worth of work.
Like solid work.
I just thought at the time I'mjust going to chuck this into

(03:54):
ChatGPT, see what it can do forme.
Long story short, it got me whatis going to take me.
I was forecasting it at four tofive days.
I was able to do in half a dayStill solid work.
Don't talk to me for four hours, four or five hours.
I was just sitting thereworking.
I got about 85% of what I wasdoing done.
Then I had to wait for someexternal reports to come in from

(04:17):
other people For the work thatI needed to do.
I got it all done within about85%.
This is something, mind you,that there was a level of
avoidance from it for me becauseI had so much to do, so many
other things to do becauseshort-staffed and that time and
we're coming into completion onjobs, so just so much happening
everywhere.
And it wasn't until I got stuckinto it that it wasn't as

(04:39):
difficult as I thought it wouldbe in the end, and also the fact
that I utilize tools at mydisposal to make it a bit easier
as well.

Robby (04:47):
I think sometimes, like a really big task can be the
thing where it's like I do this,I will not be hungry.
I'm like I have to eat lunch.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, to not startthe thing that I don't want to
start.
I will like do anything else.

George (05:08):
It's like cram studying Like even in high school or uni,
if any of you ever went.
It's like you wait to the lasthour to do that.
I don't know, it's just again.
It's like delaying theinevitable.
It's like you're going to haveto do it.
It's like a biological thingwhere humans try to consume the
least amount of energy topreserve their energy in case
they get attacked by asaber-toothed tiger.

(05:29):
There must be that element inour programming, in our
subconscious, that says hey,don't do this, it's dangerous,
it could kill you, and you justput it off until the very moment
that you have to fucking startrunning for your life.
There could be that element ofit, for sure.

Robby (05:45):
Yeah, and it usually ends up being worse because you left
at the last minute.

George (05:49):
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Robby (05:52):
Yeah, I do that a lot.

George (05:54):
And then it's like a last minute thing.

Robby (05:55):
And then it's like, man, I should have started this.
I should have had this ready togo three days ago.

George (06:00):
Yeah, that's right, and for me it's been a matter of
like realizing that.
I think that's important,realizing that you are doing,
that, you have that what's theword?
Habit in place, and then tryingto put things in place so it
doesn't happen.
Now I've got my team comingback, some of the team coming

(06:21):
back.
Probably in another three, fourweeks, say three weeks we
should have the majority of theteam back again and a couple of
projects handed over, which isgreat.
Then the next thing for me willbe right.
I don't want to be in thisposition again.
I've had to put some stuff andstrategies and systems in place
now to make sure that doesn'thappen and to make sure that
each and every person is pullingtheir weight in their area to

(06:42):
make sure that these thingsdon't happen, to make my life
easier as well, becauseultimately, that's what I do.
That's what I want to do.
I don't want to be doing thoseday-to-day operations.
Yeah.

Robby (06:53):
So hold on.
Are you happy to dive into?

George (06:55):
that a little bit?
Yeah, absolutely.
So I've had to do a lot of thegroundwork when it comes to even
ordering.

Robby (07:02):
What's the thing you didn't do that you wish you had
done?
That wouldn't have put you inthat position.

George (07:07):
I started earlier, for sure, as in the task, a lot of
the tasks, doing a lot of thosetasks earlier.

Robby (07:14):
Hindsight's a fucking beautiful thing, yeah absolutely
, absolutely.

George (07:16):
There's that element of it.
There's the element of some ofthese tasks that I was doing, or
some of these problems thatwere coming up, were going to
cost money, or are going to costmoney, and not a little bit
either.
So again, it's like me avoidingit is oh, I'm not paying for
that today.
I'll pay for it tomorrow.

(07:36):

Robby (07:39):
It's Tuesday, george's problem.

George (07:41):
Exactly, exactly right, exactly right, anyway.
So again I got stuck into itbecause I have to.
Now it's at the point where Ican't let it go any more days
and it's like, okay, well, I'msmart, I know what I'm doing,
I'm really good at what I do andI'm able to look at the problem
now because I got stuck into itand reduce the severity of it
and maybe even make the expensego away of it.

(08:05):
And maybe even make the expensego away because again, I'm
going to workshop it in a waythat will help me and help
everyone involved in thatprocess as well.
So, yeah, it's just a matter oftrying to put that into place.
But also, the reason theproblems came up is because I
see there was a failure in someof the systems that we had
within the business.
Some employees didn't do whatthey should have done, which

(08:26):
resulted many months later in aproblem.
I was like, why did that happen?
Honestly, I was frothing, I wasshitty when I found out these
two things that were going tocost a significant amount of
money to fix.
I'm like why the fuck did thathappen?
Why?
It makes me question a wholerange of things.
It wasn't just like blaming,you know, blame, playing below

(08:47):
the line, like I wanted to blame.
I actually wanted to be angryat someone.
I wanted to blame people, but Iknow that that's not the right
thing to do and I know that'snot going to serve me best in
this situation and in futureones, but I wanted to.
There was an element of me likejust wanted to call them up
Like you're a fucking idiot, whydid you do that?

(09:10):
That is amateur shit and nowwe're paying for it.
Anyway, I had to take that stepback and really remove myself
and not think like that.
I was like well, this happened,it's my fault that this
happened.
Because of these reasons, I wentinto okay, I didn't give them
the proper systems.
I didn't have a checklist therefor them to make sure the
checklist of when they orderedthat material or that product
was the right product.
I didn't have the checklist inplace to make sure hold points
and measurements were madebefore they did the task.

(09:32):
There was things there and Iwas like, okay, this is good,
because now I can startworkshopping this in the future
and putting things in place tosay, before you order the bricks
, make sure they're the rightfucking color bricks, because I
don't want to have 50 000 brickson site that are the wrong
color, and then I don't want toput those bricks up on the wall,
and then I have to pull thewall down, or whatever the
problem is no, no, actually.
Well, it was, it was a similarscenario not bricks, but a

(09:55):
facade something a facade wasthe wrong color, ordered in the
wrong color, the cladding, yeahcladding.
It was the wrong color and wetried, not tried.
The intent was that, oh, she'llbe right.
I think everyone was going tobe like, yeah, look, we'll make
it work, it's fine.
But then, when third-partypeople started to complain and
it started to spiral, then it'slike, well, now we've got a

(10:17):
problem, we've got to fix this.
But again, the problem shouldnever have occurred in the first
place.
It was a simple lack ofsomething that happened.
I'm like, okay, well, that's myfault, because this, this, this
, this, this, this, why?
Because if it's my fault, thenI can control.
If I blame everyone else andjustify everyone else's actions,
then I'm giving them, or thatthing, the power, and it's not

(10:39):
going to help me fix the problemin the future, that's for sure.
So there was a level offrustration, definitely, with
that and there's definitely alevel of accountability for
myself.
But I didn't also want to andthis is the other thing too I
don't want it to be just like ohno, don't worry, it's my fault,
you didn't fuck up, it's myfault.
I should have done this,because there has to be a level
of accountability on that persontoo, or those group of people

(11:01):
too.
It's not one person there hasto be, don't you think?
Or do you think that Do youthink I've got the right mindset
when it comes to that?

Robby (11:10):
Yeah, I don't think you should.
I've you know.
That was like one of the firstthings they teach you in
personal development.
It's like take responsibility,blah blah.
It's like okay, but there hasto be an element of a fuck you.

George (11:22):
You were wrong too, but there has to be an element of a
fuck you.
You were wrong too.

Robby (11:24):
Yeah, Because that person also has.
Hey, you have got some level ofresponsibility for this as well
.
Like I can turn around and say,yeah, but I hired you, blah
blah blah.
But at the end of the day, likeif I hired you based on a set
of skills you represented werecorrect and then you've gone and
not thought this through, Idon't have a way to control that
, dude.
That's it, Do you know?

George (11:44):
what I mean yeah.

Robby (11:45):
And yes, can I, because this was my thing.
I had this.
I would hire people they wouldfail at the role.
And then I'd be like it's myfault, yeah, my fault, I haven't
made it easy enough for them.
And then someone sat me downand said, hey, like you

(12:05):
shouldn't if they're not, ifthey can't do the basic shit,
like they're not the rightperson for the role.
Like the problem there isn't aprocesses problem, it's they are
.
What was the incompetent?
Yeah, Sure, Incompetent, that's.

George (12:25):
Yeah, sure, incompetent, yeah, but then that's where
your responsibility is.
There again, you should firethem.
So, yeah, that's right, that'sexactly right, and that's how
I'd see it too.
It's like okay, if you fuckedup, you've got to take
responsibility.
The responsibility is you're nolonger employed here, like, if
you're not it's as simple asthat.
You no longer are employed here.
It's as simple as that.

(12:47):
And look, it wasn't ascatastrophic as what I'm making
it out to be.
It's an annoyance, more thananything else, and you've just
got to put in effort, likeeverything, to get it done and
get it resolved.
And in this instance, it's notsomething that I would dismiss
someone over either.
I can understand the mistakehappening.
It's just a bit careless, morethan anything else.

Robby (13:06):
Yeah, and then, look, you got to factor in everything
that person has done as well.
Oh, without a doubt.

George (13:12):
Without a doubt, especially for Because then it's
like if it's a one-off thingand it's like dude, like A wake
up, without a doubt.
And then do you.
Because then I start alsothinking it's like, it's funny,
like all that, not self-doubt,it's, the confidence starts to,

(13:33):
starts to chip away.
Yeah, like, chip away, yeah,that's probably the best way.
It's like, okay, do I have thebest team?
It's like I start really goingdeep and this isn't me having a
crack at anyone in myorganization, I've got a great
team.
I want to go that deep, though,and say, well, okay, if I'm
trying to win the grand finalthis year, do I have the best

(13:53):
team?
Is that my goal?
Am I trying to win every game?
Yes, I am.
I'm trying to win every game.
I don't want to go out andemploy the cheapest person or
the person.
I'm going to pay the least andexpect the most.
I'm going to pay superstars todeliver the project.
That's probably why I have sucha high expectation, because
I've got such a great team.
I don't expect silly mistakeslike this to happen.

(14:13):
When I see it happening acrossthe board, I'm like, guys, we're
better than this.
Why are you dropping the ball?
It's okay to have a bad game,but overall, we need to be
winning across the board andthings need to happen in order
for that to happen, and that'swhere I think the coach, the
person at the head of the table,really needs to step up and
look at it subjectively.
Feelings aside, personalitiesaside, friendships, whatever it

(14:36):
is at work, do I have the bestteam to help me deliver on this
aspect of whatever you're doingin business?

Robby (14:43):
Do you give your team much of your time?

George (14:46):
Yeah, I would.
Yes, yeah, probably.
I haven't proactively given itto them in the sense that I
haven't gone up to them and said, hey, let's go have a catch-up,
let's do our KPI meeting.
That's purely been aconsequence of what I've been
going through over the last sixmonths because we've been
delivering some high-endprojects.
We've pumped out the work asmuch as I'm saying we've been

(15:06):
busy, we've done a lot of work.
I've delivered millions ofdollars worth of projects now in
six months and it's like wow, Ican't believe.
I walked through with one ofthe developers today and it was
all positive.
We're talking and it's like man, you've done a good job.
I said I know I'm actuallyquite proud of everything we've
done here.
Despite all the headaches,despite everything, this project

(15:27):
has come up fantastic.
That's the fist pump momentthat you're after, when you walk
away from it and go okay, we'veactually done a pretty good job
here, pretty happy with this,sorry what was your question
again About giving your teamtime?
Oh, yes, the time.
Sorry, what was your questionagain About giving your team
time?
Oh, yes, the time, because I'vebeen so tied up in that I
haven't probably proactively satwith them as much as I would

(15:49):
like, and I think that'simportant, even from the
perspective of and we said itthe other day like doing pizza
on a Friday night or doing moreteam bonding things.
I want to do a fair bit more ofthat because I think that's
important too.
I don't want it to just all benine to five, work like animals,
go home, see you next week.
I do want there to be anelement of people enjoying
coming to work.

Robby (16:10):
Yeah, I think it's twofold there, like in the sense
of there is the.
This is what I find.
You get stuff out of a monoline.
Yeah, like when you sit downwith a monoline and you're like,
hey, like you know with amonoline and you're like, hey,
like you know how's the, andlike I tell them sometimes, hey,
like we'll talk, uh, or when wedo our team catch ups and say

(16:31):
no, no, shop talk, like I'mgoing to ask you what your'll go
.

George (16:44):
You're not like talking.
Oh yeah, yeah, like no more,I'll only talk about myself,
right, um, but there's thatelement.

Robby (16:51):
So, like you, you take them, you know, and it's like
and, and yes, I do think youshould do more of that, like
when you sit down with them,just you and them.
I think you will learn morethat way than anything else,
like the other one's good formorale?
Yes, of course you know, butit's actually very powerful

(17:16):
because then people get tounderstand people for who they
are and you will see things youhadn't otherwise seen about
people.
You know what I mean yeahabsolutely Like.
you might notice any frictionbetween particular individuals,
which can happen.

George (17:33):
I think it's bound to happen.

Robby (17:34):
Oh yeah, you have so many different personalities Like.

George (17:36):
It's silly to think everyone's always yeah, exactly,
and nor do they need to be.
Definitely they need to respectand have that level of demeanor
when they're at work.
But you don't have to hang outon the weekends, you don't have
to, you know?
Hey, good morning.
How are you?
Give them a hug and high five?
Hey, good morning.
How are you?
Excellent, how was your weekend?
Yeah, it was really good.

(17:56):
Thanks for asking, that's it.

Robby (18:07):
Like you don't have to be best friends, but yeah, you got
to show a level of respect whenyou're in the office and just
with anyone in general.
Yeah, but I think it gives youthe environment to notice what
you wouldn't otherwise.
Yeah, Especially because you'relike you spend a lot of time in
your office on your own Do youknow what I mean?
But I guess half your team'snot here anyway.

George (18:19):
Yeah, that's what I mean , because we're not thin, we're
not spread out thin, but becauseI've got people out and about
and doing stuff.
Yeah, you're right, there'speople that aren't in the office
.

Robby (18:29):
You should do one Friday a month, everyone 2 o'clock.
We're going to have lunch, yeah.

George (18:33):
Call?

Robby (18:34):
it early, get in that morning.
You're going to be on site at6.30, but then at 2 o'clock meet
me here and then lunch and youkick a clock off from there.
Yeah, you know what I mean andwe sit down and we have a lunch
together, everyone.

George (18:45):
Yeah, I'll do it probably in the next month or so
because, as well as a bit of acelebration for completing a
couple of projects that we'vedone, so that's a good milestone
.
And the other thing, which I waspart of this group that we're
talking, I like the idea ofhaving short wins along the way
and having milestones onprojects, for example.

(19:05):
So like sprints I was going tocall them.
So when we get to, say, a stageof a project, let's just call
it the base stage, okay, go outand celebrate that we got to
that stage.
And then when we get to theframe stage, we'll go out and
celebrate that we got to theframe stage.
When you get to whateverdifferent stages you want in the
project, have those milestonesthat you get to celebrate as a

(19:25):
team, as a group, and it kind ofbreaks up the project into
smaller bits rather than onemassive thing, because a lot of
our projects go for anywherebetween 12 to 15 months, so
they're quite a long thing andit can often feel like you're
running a marathon and you'renever stopping.
So I think it'd be great tobreak it up like that and then
have those team get-togethers ateach sprint or each stage of

(19:47):
the job.

Robby (19:48):
Yeah, Even just having a cycle like monthly.

George (19:53):
Yeah, that's right, you know time-based yeah.
Yeah, definitely somethingyou're going to do.

Robby (19:58):
Yeah, I think you need to do it.
I think you should do it ASAP.
Yeah, I think you've beensaying you're going to do it for
quite some time.

George (20:05):
Yeah, I think so.
But, as I said, I've just been,I had no time to breathe.
That's how I felt and this iswhat I'm saying.
It's probably been anaccumulation of me having that
moment in bed.
And you know, I stand up infront of crowds and I say I'm a
high, true, I'm also very awarethat things can bring me down

(20:26):
too and things can get to me.
So I've got to be mindful ofthat, because that can also
affect home life, and when I sayhome, it could be the actual
house, but also relationshipwith friends or other extended
family and whatnot.
But I think my greatest skillin that regard is being aware of
it but also being able to stepand rise above it when it

(20:48):
happens to.
Is that the first time it'sever happened to you?
No, no, do you know?
Honestly, I got glimpses of howI felt during COVID.

Robby (20:57):
Was it like.

George (20:59):
Like during COVID the peak of it for us like where I
remember being in bed going oh,I just do not want to go to work
, like I don't want to go facewhat I have to face today.
I know it's going to be adisaster.
You know, I didn't want to getup and I felt an element of that
over the last couple of weeks,just from having Just so much on
.
Yeah, so many things on.
And then it's like you.

(21:26):
It's like you also.
They didn't feel like wins eachday.
I didn't feel like I wasgetting the wins on the board.
I felt like I was just gettingthrough the day because it's
like this would happen on thisday, like you need to do this.
Well, this is going to happenand this is gonna happen.
Like fuck, like what else doyou want?
Like what else could happen?
And then it just got to thepoint where I just laugh at it
when something bad happens or aproblem comes up.
That's cool.
So it does build a level ofresilience too, I think, because

(21:46):
I look at these things and I goI've done it.
I've done it again.
I've gone through all thosemost difficult things that we're
talking about.
I've gone through them andwe've come out the other end and
we've done really well.
Cool, you'll be right.
So there's that aspect knowingthat it's always going to be
okay.

Robby (22:06):
Yeah, that's the worst feeling, though I'm the worst at
that.
I'll do like I'll have like athing, and then I won't sleep,
and then I'll be like I'm goingto get up early tomorrow and go
in and get it all done, and thenI'll wake up and it's like 8.30
.

George (22:27):
I'll get all this shit done and I'll just sit on the
couch.
I'm like, oh, I'm tired, I'mtired.
Yeah, that's hard, it is hard.

Robby (22:34):
Yeah, it is hard.
It's hard to stop and startagain.
Yeah, If you keep going, youcan keep going.
But when you stop for likethree hours and then you're like
all right, let me get back.

George (22:44):
I feel that I have to come back here to keep going.
If I do at work, yeah, if Istay at home, I just don't think
I'll get it done.

Robby (22:55):
Yeah, If you have a good setup it helps.

George (22:58):
Yeah, you mentioned that the other day.
Yeah, it definitely helps, andI don't have it at the moment at
home.

Robby (23:02):
Yeah.

George (23:03):
I've got a spare room which I may turn into a home
office, but it's like I live soclose to the office too, it's
like just come here, but yeah,I'll see I still might set that
up.

Robby (23:13):
Yeah, there's an element of like okay, need to sit down
and bang something out quickly,and it's like you can like you
can sit down properly, bangsomething out quickly, and it's
like you can like you can sitdown properly.
Or it's like, hey, I'm gonnasit down and plan the family
holiday.
It's like where do you do that?
I want to sit around a desk.
I'm gonna sit down and planthis out properly.
It's like having the ability todo that.

(23:33):
Or I want to learn a new skill,like having the ability to sit
somewhere properly, not on thecouch and watch a youtube video,
but sit somewhere properly andbe able to consume it.
I think it's cool.
Recommend is what I'm trying tosay.

George (23:49):
Yeah.
So I mean, I've just discussedmy experience with that and
again, I still think I've got apretty positive outcome when it
comes to dealing with theproblems and issues.
Because I'm a doer, I feel likeI'll just get it done.
I'm not going to.
I don't waste too much timefeeling sorry for myself, if
that makes sense.
You know I don't sit theregoing oh, poor me, poor me.

(24:09):
As much as I wanted to juststay in bed at that moment, I
still got my mind flipped,flipped really quick and I said
no, no, get up, dude, no oneelse is doing this for you.
No one's feeling sorry for you.
Also, it was like do you talkabout it with what with any with
other people?
no, why, not, I'm talking to youabout it and everyone listening
, and everyone listening.
This is why I held it in, Ihelped it inside, I pushed it

(24:30):
down, and so I could bring itout right now.

Robby (24:31):
So if we didn't have a podcast, you probably wouldn't
talk about it um, it's funny youmentioned that.

George (24:36):
Yeah I, I've never been the type why, I don't know what.
I don't know.
Maybe, uh, I don't think it's apride thing, it's just mean,
it's more like no look, I've gotit, it's me, it's on me, it's
always on.

Robby (24:49):
Me that sounds like a pride thing yeah, I know.

George (24:51):
Yeah, yeah, and maybe not a pride, sorry, an
embarrassment thing.
It's never been like I'mashamed or I don't, I don't feel
comfortable to.
I think it's been more likeI'll get it, like I'll do, it's
okay.

Robby (25:03):
Yeah, but so don't you think it would be like you can
do anything?

George (25:06):
Who can I speak to?
Honestly, you're probably oneof the only people I'd speak to
about it yeah but you didn'tcall me.
Yeah, you'd be right.
It's like I wake up early.
I'm not upset.

Robby (25:14):
You're like, you're all right, and then I'm in a rut,
because sometimes it feels likethis I think you're three weeks
straight Like hey, I don't feellike I'm getting anything
fucking done.
This hole's getting bigger.
Yeah, like, and I don't knowlike this list just keeps
growing.

George (25:32):
Yeah, I really think that's going to be.
That's powerful shit,Especially.

Robby (25:36):
I feel that it's-.

George (25:37):
What's powerful shit.
I feel that it I wouldn't wantto necessarily speak to my wife
about it or a friend that can'trelate.
You know that maybe has a nineto five or, like a lot of people
, I don't think I'd be able tohave that conversation.

Robby (25:56):
I think one of the biggest factors of communicating
with someone is you want tofeel understood.
Yeah, without a doubt.
And if you're talking tosomeone and they're like, yeah,
yeah, my boss tells me off, andyou're like, oh, fuck it, you
don't get it, yeah, yeah.

George (26:08):
Yeah, so, yes, there's few people that I would speak to
about it because I don't feelthat I'd be able to open it.
They'd be able to give me theright advice, but also,
sometimes you just need someoneto listen to.
Sometimes it's not advice.
Yeah, you'd want someone tolisten to.

Robby (26:21):
Sometimes it's not advice .
Yeah, exactly, Just need tounload and say that was sick,
thanks.

George (26:26):
Yeah, yeah and I think there's a skill with that too to
be able to be a good listener,and to sit there and just like
tell me what it is I'm not hereto fix.
I find that that works reallywell with.
I think, as men, our biggestthing is like get a problem, how

(26:48):
do I fix it?
How do I fix it?
What do I need to do to fixthis?
Sometimes you just need tolisten.
I think that can be a reallygood skill, especially if you're
in a relationship and yourpartner or your wife they often
don't want you to fix shit, theyjust want you to listen.

Robby (26:57):
Yeah, they're trying to connect with you.

George (26:58):
Yeah, that's it.
You just sit there, hey,sometimes when.
Hey, sometimes when you're like, you give them the logical
answer yeah, so hey, just do itlike this and stop being a
fucking idiot.
It's like thanks for solvingall my problems.
I didn't want that.

Robby (27:11):
But yeah, sometimes the logical answer is not the way
that's it.

George (27:15):
That's it.
But yes, I think that's apowerful thing.
If you do have someone that youcan talk to, definitely reach
out to them, because it'sprobably going to help you.
It's probably going to help youand I think, yes, there was an
element of that that would helpme too, for sure, but you didn't
do it, I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.
Maybe my pride got in my way,do?

Robby (27:32):
you reckon that's what it is.

George (27:34):
No, I just, I, just, I just.
I was probably distracted bywhat I needed to do.
I was just focused on that.
I'm still there now.
Don't get me wrong, I've stillgot heaps to do.
The second we walked in here myphone started blowing up and it
was a couple of important phonecalls that I had to take, and I

(27:56):
haven't checked my phone now,but there's probably going to be
missed calls on it.
There's probably going to bethings that I need to action
when we get out of this room forthe job.
But again, it's like what do Ido now so that next time this
doesn't happen?
Is it different?
Is it like putting people inplace to have those problems for
me, which I think there is anelement of that too?
There's definitely an elementof that yeah you know and like.

(28:20):
so I'm doing this task now.
So we're getting there's thisthing called for those of you
that don't know an occupancypermit.
Whenever you get home, wheneveryou build a home, you have to
get an occupancy permit.
That process is much moreinvolved when you're doing an
apartment complex, becausethere's a lot more forms,
statements, compliancecertificates, a whole range of
things.
Now I want to be in theposition not, I want to be, but

(28:44):
I want to give that to people inmy team Say, hey, your problem,
fix it.
This is your baby.
I do not want to see, I do notneed to be involved in this
process.
I don't need to call thecontractors, I don't need to
call the consultants, I don'tneed to write the letters.
You do it.
That whole aspect alone.
If I had someone in my teamdoing that, that's a big thing
off my plate it's huge,particularly for an apartment

(29:07):
job for a home.
It's not as complicated still abit of effort, but not as
complicated.
But I want to be able to givethat to someone so I know next
time it's not done and start theprocess early, not in the 11th
hour.
Get everything ready from dayone.
You're on top of it.
Yes, great, uh.
There's a level of that that Iwant to be bringing into my next
lot of projects that are comingup.

Robby (29:31):
I think it's huge to be able to have people on your team
that can solve those problems.

George (29:34):
Yes, it is.

Robby (29:36):
I had someone come to me before and he's like this is not
working.
And I was like dude, somethingabout a social media account.
And I was like work it out.
He's like I don't know how.
I was like what would you do ifyou were at home?
Like what would you do if Iwasn't here?
What would you do?
And he's like I'd do this.
I said, go do that.
I could have sold it for him.
I knew exactly what it was.

(29:56):
But I'm like go do that fuckingthing, because you're going
Stop bombarding me during theday.

George (30:04):
Yeah.

Robby (30:04):
Like.
You know what I mean Get shitdone, Work it out.

George (30:07):
You very much come to me with solutions, not problems.

Robby (30:09):
No, don't come to me, do you?
Know, what I mean, like don'tcome to me, period.
Yeah, that's why you get a job.
If I needed someone to come tome, I'd hire someone less
competent that I'd solve alltheir problems for.

George (30:19):
Yeah that I'm like oh really, what if I gave you a
million dollars right now?
What if I gave you all thechocolate in the world?
What if I gave you all of thesethings that you want so
desperately?
Could you do it?
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, okay, thenyou can do it All.
Right, it's a matter ofmotivation, yeah.

Robby (30:37):
I don't want to.

George (30:38):
Yeah, you don't want to do it, you can do it you don't
want to, but yeah, without adoubt there's a huge element of
that.
I think we're pretty sure we'vementioned this before.
Terry Crews before he becamefamous and hit the big time in
the acting scene, he used tohave this mentality when he was,
I think, he was a securityguard somewhere and he would

(30:59):
walk in on his first night shiftor whatever it would be, and he
goes like how would I do thisjob if I was getting paid a
million dollars a year?
This is a guy being a securityguard, probably making 11 bucks
an hour.
He's like what would I do, howwould I go about my task,
everything I'm doing here, if Iwas getting paid a million
dollars to do this job?
And then he's like cool, let'shave a look at it.

(31:21):
So he'd rock up on site, he'd dohis checks.
He'd make sure his flashlighthas got batteries.
He'd have a spare set ofbatteries.
He would make sure all thecameras are pointed in the right
direction.
He would report any suspiciousbehavior.
He would report the cars thatdrove by more than once or twice
or whatever it might be, eventhough it might be nothing.
He would just look ateverything and how he could

(31:54):
elevate that role, even thoughhe was getting $11 an hour, as
if he was getting a milliondollars a year to do that job,
and by him doing that and havingthat mindset he was solving
problems.
He was much more alert and alsoresponsive and competent that
it didn't take long for him tothen elevate to the next level.

Robby (32:05):
Yeah, but I think it takes a particular type of
individual.
Without a doubt, because youknow what the average employee
response would be to that?
I'm not getting paid a lot.

George (32:13):
Yeah, exactly, but I'm not.
And then it's like no, that'swhy you're not, that's why
you're not, and I think you'rebang on with it.
And that's why I wanted tobring something like that up,
Because if you are that person,think differently, Start to
think bigger.
I've been doing this for 10years now.
I realized this the other day.
I've achieved a lot in 10 years.
I've had a lot of wins.
I've had a lot of losses.
It's like okay, I feel thatI've been doing this for a

(32:37):
really long time, but what's thenext 10 years going to look
like?
It'll go by quick.
It's going to go by quick.
If I was that good over lifeI've become that good since 10
years how much better am I goingto be in the next 10?
You might think about losses andhardships that you're having at
the moment and challenges andall this sort of shit, but if

(32:58):
you've become better as a resultof those things and now moving
forward, you're going to becomeeven better.
It's just a game and youhaven't lost.
You haven't lost.
As long as you keep going,you're not going to lose.
I don't see there being alosing point in this game.
Even if you do lose everything,you go bankrupt.
Most billionaires andmultimillionaires.

(33:19):
They've gone broke two, threetimes.
They've lost it all.
They've risked it all, butthey've lost it all.
Then they've gone again andlearned from those mistakes and
then keep going, kept havingthat belief.
I have a huge level of beliefas well in my own abilities.

Robby (33:34):
Do you think it impacts you when you hold everything in?

George (33:38):
Oh yeah, I think it would for me.
I've become better at it,though I reckon my last two
three years as in not holding itin, oh okay, yeah.
So over the last two, threeyears as in not holding it in,
oh okay, yeah.
So over the last two, threeyears, doing a lot of the
personal development stuffhelped and, uh, the business
journeys and and trainings andeverything I've done, and even
training other people that'sfunny.

(33:58):
It was like when I train otherpeople, it's like I'm just
talking to myself.
Anyway, you know, hey, this iswhat you need to be doing when
you're coaching?
When I'm coaching, I feel likeI'm just coaching myself.

Robby (34:08):
Anyway yeah, it's all coaching yourself, coach, yeah.
So yeah, that's one of the best.
I used to say shit, I'm not, Ispeak like coaching people and I
used to say something I'd belike fuck one second yeah, coin
that, yeah, yeah, so there's.

George (34:25):
I feel that I've definitely become better at it,
because that was probably one ofmy weaknesses is that I had
that very much it'sstereotypical but masculine
mindset that I'm the man, I'lldo it whatever, where the world,
the weight of the world on myshoulders, do you think it's
still?
There's probably an element ofit there still.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And cause, I suppose there's alevel of vulnerability and

(34:50):
weakness in it To speak.
Yeah, not that there's anythingwrong with that, I'm just
saying there is that level there.

Robby (34:54):
No, no, you're just saying that it's something that
you battle with.

George (34:58):
Yeah, I think yeah, without a doubt, without, a
doubt.
I do feel that I still hold myown things in rather than having
that conversation with someoneor something about something.

Robby (35:07):
Sorry, yeah, so what?
What do you think the overallimpact is that on your, on your
life?
You know what I mean.
Like, um, like I'm a bigbeliever of you need to have
some kind of outlet, right?
Uh, whatever, it is like somepeople go and scream their head
off, some people go and run asfast as they can, some people go

(35:31):
and lift really heavy weightsand like point where you're
exerting you know what I mean.
I think you need to have a wayto let things out, otherwise
they fester in your body, I feelthat I've had that a lot over
the years.

George (35:46):
What that festering thing where it just sits there.

Robby (35:50):
And then it shows up, but it shows up as something else.
I believe, and it shows upelsewhere in your life, yeah,
and it shows up like, uh fuck my, my arm is sore, or uh, I've
got a sore back, or all of asudden I've got this fucking
rash, or you know you'rebreaking out, or you're losing
hair, or you look like you're 70when you're 35.

George (36:09):
But it can even be a breakdown in other elements of
your life, like it could be yourrelationships.
It can be like we see eachother pretty much every day.
You could be like man, I don'tlike George as much anymore.
Maybe I change as a personbecause of that internal
bullshit festering.
Whatever I've got going on,you're like oh, george isn't as
funny as he used to be.
George isn't as good atpodcasting as he used to be.

Robby (36:33):
Yeah, step it up.

George (36:34):
Yeah, try it, step it up , try it.
That's why I'm speaking to youabout it now, so I can become
better.
So, yeah, I do believe thatthat is a negative thing to have
.

Robby (36:45):
So let's say that that was happening.
That's not, that's aconsequence.
Like the other person won'tjust think that you would have
had to drop the ball.
Like imagine Nicole turnsaround and says you know, he
used to come home happy and nowhe doesn't anymore.
Nicole hasn't done anythingwrong.
He's stopped coming home happy.

George (37:03):
Correct?
Correct?
And that's the same thing.
Like what I said during COVID,I used to come home thinking I
was okay.
But I would come home and I wasjust so mentally drained and
exhausted from everything that Iwas doing that my kids didn't
see the best version of me.
Not that I was bad, and I saythis a lot.
It's like I wasn't bad.
I wasn't a bad dad, I wasn't athat shit.

(37:27):
I just wasn't the best.
I just wasn't that person thatI know I am and who I want to be
around and what I want peopleto be attracted to.

Robby (37:34):
So that had consequences and so how would you know like
hindsight's a beautiful thing itis, you might look back at this
one day and say, fuck, I was inthe same slump.

George (37:45):
Yes.

Robby (37:47):
I had no idea.

George (37:47):
I didn't know you were doing.

Robby (37:48):
COVID yeah, so how do you know?

George (37:52):
you're not there now.
I know I'm not there nowbecause of, well, because I've
gone through that experiencepreviously.

Robby (38:05):
Just because you've been to hell twice, it doesn't mean
you're not in hell the secondtime.

George (38:10):
Look, you're always going to have that.
Let's call it hell, as you'resaying.
That's always going to be there.
There's going to be thatelement of that there.
I can walk through hell now andit's not going to affect me as
much.

Robby (38:20):
As much, but still.

George (38:22):
Well, I'm only human, I'm still getting better at it
too.
But then the third time I walkthrough and the fourth time and
the fifth time, and then soonhell's going to look like heaven
anyway.
So there is that element.
I don't think I'll ever be thatperson that I was back then and
again, not bad.
I don't think I'll ever be likethat, ever again.
Because I still have thatenough.

(38:42):
I have enough self-awareness torealize when I'm starting to
slump.
And I felt that I I have enoughself-awareness to realize when
I'm starting to slump.
I have felt that the last say,two weeks, more so Because I
mentioned to you, I won't say,wait a minute, but I have felt
that in the last couple of weeksand it's like all right, how do
I bring myself out of this?
What do I need to do?
And it's funny, you said what'sthe release?
And I look at it and I go.

(39:02):
Okay, I haven't gone to the gymfor six weeks because I had a
hernia operation and I'm still.
They say I can't go for a while, but anyway, that used.
That wasn't.
There was an element of releasedoing that.
I don't think that for me.
I felt so much better after.
I worked out like, oh, that'sgood, that's all I needed.
So I didn't have that.
But something happened on theweekend yeah, last weekend,

(39:25):
saturday and it was a nice sunnyday winter day, but it was a
nice sunny day and I was driving.
I just had music on, sunroofwas open and I was driving.
I just bought a new car and Ifelt like this is cool, I just
relaxed.
I actually felt a bit of relief.
You know how sometimes you feelweighed down.

(39:47):
I just enjoy that.
I've always enjoyed justcruising and going for a drive,
listening to music, whatever itmight be, and just being alone.
In all honesty, sometimes Idon't mind that too.
I did feel that bit of reliefthere.
I came home and said it to mywife.
I said you know what I feel somuch better just having gone for
a drive for half an hour 45minutes and coming back and

(40:09):
feeling really good.
Why, why, maybe it's, I don'tknow.
It's a connection from when Iwas younger.
I used to do that.
I used to like drive.
I still do.
I enjoy driving.

Robby (40:20):
You don't do anything for yourself.
Yeah, you're probably right.

George (40:26):
We don't hang out outside of here, probably right
Ever know we don't hang outoutside of here?
Probably right Ever.
Do you want to?
We should, we should 100%.
No, we went for dinner theother day, yeah.

Robby (40:36):
Yeah, that was the worst two of us ever had in my life.

George (40:41):
We were knocked off so bad and it was recommended too.

Robby (40:44):
Yeah, like this is, you got to get this.
It was recommended and it wasrecommended too.

George (40:46):
Yeah, like this, is you got to get this?
It was recommended.
It was recommended.
No, you're completely right,and it's yeah.

Robby (40:51):
I reckon you don't do enough and I get it Like you got
kids, you got a wife, you gotfamily.
But I don't want that to beexcuses too.

George (40:59):
It's not excuses.
That's good that I've got thosethings.

Robby (41:04):
And it's more of a um, uh .
There's a level of you haveresponsibilities, like it's not,
like you can't just drop.
I can drop everything tomorrowand yeah.

George (41:12):
I could call you up.
Yeah, exactly Right, I could doit.

Robby (41:15):
Yeah, you can't do that.
Yeah, which is completelyunsaid.
But also you can go and tuckyour kids into bed at night.
Yeah, I can't do that.

George (41:23):
Yeah, you're bang on, and even more so.
Like it's funny you say thatbecause it's like I've got a
from uni.
I've got five close friendsthat I'm still friends with
today.
It's been 20, over 20 years,whatever it is.

Robby (41:33):
And Define close friends, because someone said this to me
the other day and I said what'sa close friend?
And they said someone you cancall up and just talk absolute.
And I was like I've got one.

George (41:45):
No, well then, if that's the definition, then I've got
five.
Maybe four, but five.
There was a group of us andwe've just always remained close
and we actually we try to goout every month at least, and

(42:05):
it's been I reckon like Marchwas the last time we went out
and we've got a group chat andwe always talk like we talk in
there, we send messages and allthat sort of stuff.
I'm like, hey, let's go out,like I've recently, actually, as
far as the last week and a half, two weeks, I've been the one
that getting in the chat, oh,let's go, let's go out and meet
up and do something and actuallyget out, cause I've probably
subconsciously felt the need togo out and do something.
And a couple of them haven'tbeen responsive either.

(42:26):
Maybe they've got shit going on.
I actually called one of themthe other day because I hadn't
spoken to him, I hadn't heardhim in the group chat, nothing,
and I'm still going to followhim up.
But it's like you're completelyright, there has to be an
element of you doing things foryou.
Without a doubt, I went outlast night.

(42:47):
Okay, I'm quite simple.
I feel too.
I don't feel like I, without adoubt, I went out last night.
I'm quite simple.
I feel too.
I don't feel like I need a lot.
I went out for dinner.
It was my son's birthdayyesterday.
I went out for dinner with mysister-in-law, my brother-in-law
, nicole, and the kids.
I had a really good time out.
For me, that was a bit of arelease.
I said it to them.
I said, guys, why do we waitfor fucking events like a

(43:08):
birthday or some shit to go out?
We should do this more oftenand have that thing.
I don't know.
Sometimes to me I feel like Imake it an excuse, as in I've
got these two projects that I'mtrying to finish.
When I finish that, then I'llenjoy myself, then I'll do team

(43:29):
stuff, then I'll do these things.
That's the worst, and I thinkthat's where I've been the last
three months more.
So I won't say six months,because I've had my whole team
here, but I'd say the last twoto three months I've felt in
that trap where I haven't donemuch outside of work.
I haven't.
It's always just been work.
It's always been go, go, go, gogo and I'm like when this job's
finished, we'll be cool afterthat.

(43:50):
We'll be cool after that.
But the thing is, and the trapthat I've realized, is there's
always something else.
There's always the next job,there's always the next
challenge, there's always thenext hurdle.

Robby (44:02):
Dude, you said this to me .
You're like you died right now.
Your inbox would be fulltomorrow morning.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and itwould.
Yeah, unless I set up a thinglike an automation.
Do it I didn't close my emails,um, but do you know what I mean?
Like it's like that stuff'snever gonna go away.
Yeah, I, I'll share a story.

(44:24):
Someone told me this the day Icalled someone and they called
me back and they're like hey,man, I just had the most
emotional dinner I've ever had.
And I was like what they'relike?
I had the most emotional dinnerI've ever had in my life and I
was like where'd you go?
He's like I went to a Koreanbarbecue place man.
They got free Wagyu barbecueplace man, they got free wagyu,

(44:48):
blah, blah.
I was like was it like you're inlove?
Like you said, free wagyu, likeunlimited.
Oh, you can eat and there's asmuch wagyu as you want.
Yeah, and he's like it wasfreaking great.
I was like was it emotional?
Like I love the wagyu, likewhat's the?
And he goes.
Nah, they caught up with afriend, uh, a couple, and uh,
they've known him for quite someyears because I'm perfectly
normal, he's a wife that wereoverseas and the wife was

(45:08):
getting something done at thehospital in Malaysia.
Okay, and the husband I'mpretty sure her husband might be
partner, but not life partnerwas waiting and he saw a thing
that said get a comprehensivecheck blah blah
blah.
This is a true story.
It happened on Sunday.
Yeah, right, yeah, get acomprehensive check, blah, blah,
blah.
And he thought you know, I'm inmy 50s?

(45:32):
Might as well, like I'm here,I'm waiting.
Might as well, go get thischeck.
So he goes I think it was a fewhundred bucks or whatever and
he goes and gets this check.
They find a few things that areout of whack.
They run a.
This guy had no, zero symptoms,life was normal, he was.
He just purchased a caravanready to do a lap around and
show you Stage four lung cancer,six months to live, completely

(45:56):
rocked his whole.
Dude, normal guy.
I said no, like none, nosymptoms, like nothing Like.
This is a guy who would go tothe beach and would swim out to
the, to the pole and everyonewould be like, hey, man, get him
Do you know what I mean.
Like just a normal dude, didn'thave any bad habits.
He used to smoke when he wasyounger but stopped ages ago,
doesn't drink, you know,exercises and kicked in the

(46:20):
teeth at 50.
And it's like that could happento anyone at any point in time.
Dude, like from you know, andit's like fuck these emails.
Yes, yes, you know what I mean.
Like for what?
Yeah, like for what, yeah, likeI get it.
And I'm not saying anyone likeyou need to reply to emails, but

(46:40):
like.
But there's an element of liketo what.
To what detriment?
Like, what's the fuckingtrade-off got to be here?
Yeah, at what point do you turnaround and say you know what?
Like, what would have to happenfor you to turn around and say
this wasn't worth it?

George (46:59):
Yeah, are you asking the question?

Robby (47:00):
Yeah, I'm just fucking yelling.
That would have to be.
Get what I'm saying.

George (47:05):
Touch wood, If that happened tomorrow I'd be like
fuck, is that what I've justtraded?
Yeah, Powerful shit.

Robby (47:12):
Yeah, but I'd also sit there.
It's going to be a sick storywhen I tell them how I fucking
bounced back.
Ah, yeah, that's it.

George (47:18):
Yeah, but like it's guy and I was like, fuck, like yeah,
yeah, I had it the other day.
A friend, his partner, the samething.
She copped it out of nowhere.
They and these guys are likethey're healthy, they travel,
they're fit, like they'refucking everything.
Yeah, you hear the stories.

(47:38):
Now she's shaped her head,she's fucking going through the
treatments.
I'm like, damn, that's fucking,that's hard man, that's sad.
And I've got.
Look, I've got coin and thishelps me too.
This is like what I'm saying.
I've grown a lot through the PDspace and just as a person.
But I've got a coin on my desk.
I literally picked it up today.

(47:59):
It literally sits there on mydesk because I can see it every
day.
It says Memento Mori, mementoVivere and Memento mori you're
going to die.
There's one side of the cointhat says you're going to die.
I'm like, yeah, I'm going tofucking die one day.
This is not going to happen.
It's inevitable, it's going tohappen Unless AI can download my
subconscious and upload it intothe next one.

(48:19):
I'm gone, and then on the otherside it says memento vivere,
which means you're going to live.
Because you are going to livetoo.
All right, death is coming, butthere's also a life before that
too, however long or short it'sgoing to be, there is life
there, and I think that's a goodreminder to yourself that you

(48:40):
know you are going to die oneday.
Just understand what's importantBe grateful.
Practicing gratitude's amassive thing.
Like I look at the problemsI've got and this is again the
reframe that helped me getthrough.
This moment was all right.
Yes, these are challenging, but, man, I asked for this.
This is good, life is good, andthat even happens in the way I

(49:01):
talk to people.
All right, someone will call meup, because I get heaps of
calls hey, how you going?
Excellent, what a life.
How good is it?
I've got all these problems.
I get to have all theseproblems.
I say shit like that to peoplethat I hardly even know
Contractors, suppliers, peoplethat I do know really well.
What a life it is.
How lucky are you.
You get to be working everysingle day and working hard.

(49:21):
What a life.
Because that self-talk changesso much, so much.
Because, if you were alwayslike fuck, because that
self-talk changes so much, somuch Because if you were always
like fuck, how you going?
Yeah, all right, what are youdoing?
If you're always that guy, ifyou're always that person.
Man, you've got one foot in thegrave.
Do you ever catch yourselfbeing like that?
Not as much as I used to, sosometimes.

Robby (49:40):
Yeah, sometimes.

George (49:42):
I think it's human nature Again.
We're programmed to be negative.
I think it's hard, like it'shard to always be positive.
Yeah, you're hardwired, yeah,we're programmed as a survival
mechanism, but yeah, I think so.
I don't want to sit here andsay that I don't, and like I'm
not David Goggins or anythinglike that, where I sit there and
say, you know, carry the boatsand shit.

Robby (50:02):
Someone messaged me the other day like stay hard.
Thanks, dave.

George (50:07):
You're the fucking softest bloke.
Hey, shut the fuck up.

Robby (50:13):
You know who you are.
You know exactly who you are.
I was thinking about this.
If we're thinking about thesame person, that's fucking
amazing.
That's so good, we'll talkoffline.

George (50:23):
Yeah, so that whole thing is so true, dude, so
fucking true.
And it's, this is man.
This has been good.
This chat now.
This is a sick chat.
This is a sick chat.
This is a chat I needed.
I'm going to go home andfucking push up.

Robby (50:37):
This episode's never going to air.
It's not.
This was just a chat between meand you.
Yeah, I'll send you a bill.
Thanks, I'll pay it, do you?

George (50:43):
take Amix Always.
Good, that's all we take.
Sorry, be offended if youdidn't.
So yeah, man, that's how I knowI'm better.
That's how I know I'm notbogged down.
That's how I know that,regardless of everything I'm
going through, regardless of thepressures, it's like I have a
level of gratitude for it too.
I have a level of gratitude forit.

Robby (51:09):
So there's no?
I think there is no, not doingit Like you're going to do hard
things, but it's like how do youwhat, what are the things, what
are the elements that you cando to help you?
You don't come out of thebattle without scars.
Yes, what do I do to make sureI come out the minimum amount of
scars as possible?

George (51:24):
Yeah.

Robby (51:24):
Because one of these scars might fuck me up.
Yeah.

George (51:25):
And I agree, scars as possible, because one of these
scars might fuck me up.
Yeah, and I agree, and I thinkfor me it's you hit the nail on
the head and you've seen it asan observation is I don't do
enough for myself.
I try to do everything foreveryone else, more so I'll do
things for other people thanlike I say.
It's a bit of a joke, but I'mlike I wear, I wear a g-shock so
my wife can wear a Rolex.

(51:47):
Yeah, I've said that to her andshe's like oh, don't say that.
I was like no, it's cool, man,I'm fine, you wear that.
I'm happy with this.
This is cool.

Robby (51:54):
But so there's an element of, but why not?

George (51:58):
I have a Rolex and you have a Rolex.
I can do both I can.
I could go out tomorrow and buyone.
I'm not going to, but I couldDon't do it.
That's it.
I did something else sillyanyway, and this was another
little thing that I was going totalk to you about we touched on
it a little bit having impostersyndrome, and I've never really
felt that I've had impostersyndrome.

(52:20):
I've never really felt like Idon't deserve this or I
shouldn't be here, I shouldn'thave this.
I've kind of maybe it's a levelof arrogance, I don't know
potentially, no, no, I deservethis.
I've worked hard.
This is mine.
I'm doing it and for the firsttime ever, I felt it.
And I recently bought a new car,and it was an expensive car.

(52:42):
I bought a Porsche.
Congratulations, thank you.
And yeah, you came with me.
We drove around and you askedme how do you feel?
And in the moment I was like,yeah, it feels all right, I
guess.
But there was an element of megoing, fuck, I shouldn't have
this car.
I feel like I shouldn't be seenin this car.

(53:04):
I feel like I shouldn't tellpeople but why I should be
celebrating that.
I feel like I shouldn't tellpeople but why.
I should be celebrating thatI've worked hard for it.
I should be celebrating theaccomplishments and all that
sort of stuff.
There should be an element ofthat too.
But I felt like the word's notashamed, what's the word?
It's deserving.
I don't know.
Is that what I'm trying to say?

(53:25):
It was odd.

Robby (53:27):
What was odd about it?
Who were you worried, might see?

George (53:30):
you no one specifically Like it was more a me thing, it
wasn't anyone else, but it'slike no, but it's always someone
else.

Robby (53:41):
Because if you were driving that car in Germany and
you didn't know anyone around,you wouldn't have felt that way.

George (53:45):
Yeah, potentially you didn't know anyone around you
wouldn't have felt that way.

Robby (53:49):
yeah, potentially it's not mine either though you're
saying if I hired one, what ifyou bought it, whatever?
In boarding for a laugh.
Well, you're on holiday justfor a laugh.

George (53:54):
What a life, what a life you know what I mean yeah, yeah
, no, I do know what you'resaying.

Robby (53:59):
I don't know what you're saying but so it's usually an
element of what we think.
Someone might think about us orlike you might pull up and see
another Porsche owner Could bethat and feel like oh man like I
don't when there's a lack ofyes, yes, yes yes, Do you?
I'm just, I'm spitballing you.
No, no, that's fine.

George (54:17):
But like Look, there's probably an element of me also
in my profession and what I do.
It's like we've said this wouldI ever rock up to see a client?
Okay, I'm going to see apotential client tomorrow.

Robby (54:29):
This is actually happening, have we said this on
the podcast.
We've had this conversationabout this.

George (54:32):
Yes, I can't remember.
Okay, but yeah, tomorrow.
Okay, so I'm going to see anactual client tomorrow, a
potential client, looking atpricing a job for him, done some
intermediate work for him andgiving him some advice and all
that sort of stuff, and I'mactually going to meet him face
to face for the next day.
Now if I rocked up in thePorsche or rocked up in a Ranger
like what message is thatportraying to that person?

(54:52):
And I'm like, would I?
So I think about that and I'mlike is it the right thing to be
rocking up in a Porsche or aRanger in that instance?
And automatically my mind wouldgo no, no, don't take the
Porsche.
That's silly.

Robby (55:06):
Yeah, I think it depends who you're talking to.

George (55:09):
Yeah, without a doubt, I don't know this person well
enough to make a judgment callon that Because, yeah, you're
right, if I go and see my clientin Turak and pull up to his $20
million home, he'd be like, oh,that's not, he goes.
When did you get the upgradedsound system and all that I just
bought?

Robby (55:29):
one for my daughter, bought one for my butler.

George (55:34):
Yeah, but it's all relative, isn't it?
It's all relative, but I meanand again, what's the brand that
you're trying to portray?
How are you trying to putyourself out there?
I think that would have aconsequence to it too but so
what's the element of imposter?
Builders don't have cars likethat gives a fuck, exactly.
But that's the element of it,isn't it?

(55:55):
So are you not that type ofbuilder?

Robby (55:59):
I don't know well, so no builder has one no, I wouldn't
say that at all okay, so whatthen?
What is it?
Are you?
Do you identify so strongly asa builder that you're like bro,
if I don't have a hammer on me,do you know what?

George (56:10):
I mean If I don't have a drill nearby.

Robby (56:11):
I feel lost.

George (56:12):
Yeah, there could be an element of that, but I've never
been that way inclined with thathammer.
But yes, there could be anelement of that.

Robby (56:20):
So you think you're.

George (56:22):
But it could be, I still .
So this isn't just to be toclarify this isn't my car.
I bought it for my wife.
I don't actually drive a car,but I still have a.
I still drive a Land Rover,which is a very nice car and
almost very similar in pricebrand new, you know and I don't
feel any different or odd inthat.
So what's the difference?
It's the badge.
It's the badge.
Yeah, I think it is the badge,for sure.

Robby (56:44):
But it's what the badge represents.
Yeah, so what do you feel likehaving that badge represents
that you feel like is not inalignment with what you're doing
Usually, when people talk aboutimposter syndrome right, and
Jimmy Carr said this on somepodcast and he goes imposter
syndrome is a wonderful thing.
You should aim to have it every18 months, because anytime

(57:05):
you're going into a new space,you should feel like you don't
belong because you haven't beenthere before.

George (57:09):
Yeah, and I think that's what the I think that's what
I'm feeling, like what you'resaying.
I feel that that space and partof me to make because I think
we said it.
No, we definitely did say awhile ago, I said I was in a
position where I could start tolook at a vehicle like that, but
I wasn't going to do it becauseit wasn't the right thing for
me.
At the time, when I bought thiscar, it was very spontaneous.
It wasn't planned, we weren'tgoing out there to go, oh, let's

(57:32):
go get this car.
I hadn't planned it for sixmonths, I hadn't done my
research and looked at colorsand shit like that, stars
aligned and went out and got it.
But I think there was definitelyan element of me going well,
I've kind of been a bit toocomfortable.
So maybe excuse me, maybe thiswas an element of me.

(57:52):
Okay, let's start pushing,let's start going harder.
You know you've got this thingto pardon the pun to drive you
or to push you, to force you toelevate and to go that next
level.
Because I mean, going to thePorsche Center in Melbourne was
a fantastic experience andyou're looking at all the
vehicles in there and it's likewow that's half a million
dollars.
Yeah, it's Collingwood SmithStreet.

(58:13):
Yeah, smith Street.
I think it's Smith Street,isn't it?

Robby (58:18):
Is it a wide road like four lanes?
Yeah, yeah.

George (58:25):
No, victoria lanes, yeah , yeah, no, victoria strides,
victoria, okay, that's close,borderline city, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah so.
But you go in, there's carsthat are worth eight, nine
hundred thousand dollars inthere and it's like, wow, okay,
that's the next level.
And you're seeing guys thatwalk in there and custom
building cars and doing this anddoing that, and turbos this and
v8s that, and sunroof andspeakers and leather from the
back of humpback whales and allthat sort of jazz that I think

(58:46):
it's Porsche, it has to be.
So, yeah, there's so manylevels to it, but for me, at
that level, the vehicle that wepurchased I was like all right,
this is a big deal for me.
I've got to really step up mygame.
I've got to start doing thingsdifferently, I've got to start
playing a bigger game.
And I think there was thatelement there for me too,
because sometimes I do feel thatand I've said this previously

(59:09):
that when things start to get abit comfortable, I'll be like oh
, it's lay back a bit, let'sjust chill out, take a rest.
You've worked hard.

Robby (59:17):
It's human nature, yeah, and that's what I don't want to
do.

George (59:20):
I don't want to be that person again, ever again.
I've done that and that hurt mea lot, especially, as I said,
during COVID.
I was before COVID.
I was killing it dude Like wewere making money, had money in
the bank.
I was arrogant as fuck.
Like the best builder, Like Iwas, although we were really
good at what we did.
I just I had holes in my bucketthat I didn't know were there,

(59:41):
and it wasn't until things got abit hard that those holes
exploded.
So, yeah, I think there was anelement of that me purchasing
that vehicle for my wife and orfor us, whatever.
But yeah, but when, going backagain to what I was saying, I
was driving on the weekend and Ihad that moment.
There was a moment there whereI was like, wow, this is cool,

(01:00:06):
Listening to some music drivingthe car.
It was a nice sunny day and Iwas like you know what, Well
done, Good on you.
I felt a sense ofaccomplishment and happiness and
just all right, this is thenext level, let's go again.

Robby (01:00:21):
Did you feel the feeling you didn't know you'd get after
going to Vegas and racing thosecars?

George (01:00:28):
Yeah, good question, good question.
Um, I felt, yeah, it feltdifferent, like you know how we
were saying oh, after we roastthose cars, we're like, oh,
what's the big deal?
You said that, yeah, I know.
I said that, yes, that's right,it didn't feel like a big deal.
Nah, it is a big deal.
I think there's a level ofsignificance to it.
Behind it.

(01:00:48):
It's not necessarily the badge.
It's like what it represents toget to that stage.

Robby (01:00:57):
Is it a?
I have a Porsche now, Not inthe sense of like, don't touch
me.
Yeah, I'm like that now with apod, me too.

George (01:01:05):
Me too.

Robby (01:01:06):
It's more in the sense of like cool, this is a benchmark,
a checkpoint, like a marker.
I don't know what the fuck I'mlooking for here.
I think benchmark's the rightword.
Yeah, it's kind of like cool,we surpassed a level.
We've entered a new realm.

George (01:01:19):
You know what the fuck I'm looking for here.
I think benchmark's the rightword.

Robby (01:01:22):
Yeah, it's kind of like a cool.
We surpassed a level, we'veentered a new realm, you know
what I mean.
And it's like cool, like peopleat this level, because I'm sure
if you went and bought aBentley tomorrow, you'd probably
have that feeling more.
Yeah, maybe, I don't know, I'mjust a bit blown away.

George (01:01:43):
No, but you're right.
You're right.
And look, when I look at that,there's still levels to it too.
As we said, there's levels toeverything, because you can
still go buy a half a milliondollar car.
You can still go buy an$800,000 car.

Robby (01:01:55):
Yeah.

George (01:01:58):
There's definitely levels to it and it's like, well
, if I now go out and reallycrush it and kill it and make
all this money on all theseprojects and then I do go buy a
Lambo or whatever the hell, Ibuy a $500,000 car, is it again?
Oh shit, I probably shouldn'tdo that.
I'm a builder.
Builders shouldn't be drivingcars like this.
Everyone's going to think I'mripping them off or I'm a drug
dealer, or you know what's thatimage going to portray for the

(01:02:20):
business.
Is it going to affect mewinning more business?
Because people are going to gonah, he's too expensive, don't,
don't work with him.
Or will they look at it and gowow, what a successful person,
an entrepreneur and businessowner.
He's definitely the type ofperson I want to be doing
business with.

Robby (01:02:32):
I think they'll say both.

George (01:02:33):
I think they'll say both too.
I don't think it's avoidable.
Yeah, yeah, and that's fine,it's we're in.
As a country, we're very muchlike that.
The tall poppy syndrome, oh,massive, yeah, and we noticed
that in Australia.
Did I tell you the other day Ihaven't told you this when I
went to the airport about thehat?
Oh, I did, cool, yeah.

(01:02:56):
So for context, guys, when we'rein the States, me and Robbie
were wearing our Million DollarDays hat repping as we do every
day.
Every day, someone would say toat least to one of us.
So much, yeah, at least to oneof us, if not multiple times a
day.
Hey, man, love the hat, lovethe hat.
Where do you get it from?
Where can I get one?
Like, people were asking uswhere to get the hat from.
That was celebrating a milliondollar days.

(01:03:16):
That's sick.
Like how do we, like you, makea million dollar days?
You're making bank guys likeyou guys killing it, you're
crushing it and it and it's likethis is our podcast, like
really.
And people were asking genuinequestions about it.
And then I bumped into a guy forthe first time at the airport
in Sydney.
It was in Sydney, coming backhome and the guy was wearing my
Million Dollar Days hat and he'slike hey, love the hat, man,

(01:03:45):
and he's the guy that it.
I was like, oh thanks, man, goto podcast, check it out.
Just search up Million DollarDays in iTunes and you'll see us
there he goes oh yeah, that'scool man, I'll check it out.
Hey, if you're listening, bro,welcome to the show.
Welcome to the show.
You just got a free plug.
You got a free plug.
Well done, jamal.

(01:04:05):
It was 100% Jamal.

Robby (01:04:06):
No one would let Jamal work at the airport Says the
blood that gets pulled overevery fucking time we go out.
It's good I'm a dangerous guy.
What if I'm going to blow shitup?
You better check every fuckingtime he's going to blow up.
You don't know meMetaphorically and yeah,
metaphorically.

George (01:04:19):
Is that why your vest is puffy?
Yeah, is that why you're thebestest puppy.

Robby (01:04:22):
Yeah so.

George (01:04:25):
I can hide shit.
So yeah, that goes to show thementality, because we've worn
that hat so often and not oncein Australia have we ever.
Really well, not once.

Robby (01:04:34):
So do you think you'd be more comfortable driving a
Porsche in the US?

George (01:04:36):
Perhaps, perhaps From what I've seen and heard, other
international business peoplesay the same thing where they go
to the States and they'll drivethat same car and they see that
as a level of accomplishment.
Hey man, well done.
What did you do to get there?
People celebrate that more sothe success than they do here,
and I kind of envy that a littlebit.

Robby (01:04:58):
I also think America has a level of delusion Just from
everything that's been happeninglately, like they are doing
some cook shit at the moment,and it's like, everyone's like
yeah, you know, you were sayingyou and you're like, I always
have you guys are not in a goodspot there, um, but you take the
good with the bad right thesame way.
We do that here.

(01:05:19):
Australia is not really.
We're doing some cook shit.

George (01:05:22):
Yeah, without a doubt we are.

Robby (01:05:23):
Yeah, like the footy player who had a homophobic slur
.

George (01:05:28):
Oh yeah, you said that the other day.

Robby (01:05:30):
That was fucking shit Sent him to pride management
school.
Oh man, Pride managementtraining or something that is so
fucked up yeah and it's likecome on, guys, we're way too far
to one side.

George (01:05:41):
You can't do that.
What would you do in thatinstance if you were the
footballer Me?
Because he probably just turnedaround as a bloke would on the
footy field and said, yeah, nicemouth guard, homo.
Like maybe he said some shitlike that.
It was probably something asjust innocent as that, like a
slide of the tongue, and thenthey club made it out as in oh,
he came to us because he wasconcerned.

Robby (01:06:05):
Yeah self-reported?

George (01:06:06):
Yeah, self-reported.
That's all an image bullshitthing.
He did not go to them and sayoh, by the way, I may have
called this person a homobecause of his rainbow mouth
guard.

Robby (01:06:15):
You've never done that.

George (01:06:18):
I'd go out of my way to do that.

Robby (01:06:20):
Self-report.

George (01:06:21):
No.

Robby (01:06:25):
Call people home.
Just try and find someone witha rainbow mouth guard.

George (01:06:30):
There's both sides to that.
Yeah, I think though I thinkyou said it, sam Newman he's
like, as you said, we're so farleft that if you say anything
against any of those groups,people, races, anything,
whatever it might be, it's likeall of a sudden you're branded
as homophobic, racist, whateverit might be, and it's just a
joke.
That's ridiculous to be downthat way, to be going down that

(01:06:51):
path and he wasn't joking, no,he wasn't.
I'm just saying to say you'vegot to go to some what did you
call it?
Pride something.

Robby (01:06:59):
I think it was like pride management school or pride
program.
The.
I think it was like pridemanagement school or pride
program.
Does that the fact?

George (01:07:04):
that that exists, the fact that that exists as a joke.
And I promise you, if I was anAFL footballer, I'd tell him to
go shove it.
I wouldn't do that, I'd comeout on so and then you go oh
well, we'll delist you.
Okay, cool, I don't wantbeliefs, maybe.

Robby (01:07:21):
But that's how.
Everything that is controlled,hollywood's like that.
Everything that is controlled,you can't say anything bad in
Hollywood.
You can't go around and say Idon't like pink hair.
Yeah, or I don't like Jews oranything.
You wouldn't get completelyshut down.

George (01:07:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robby (01:07:34):
This is very much the same.
They have full control ofsomething Like that.
Guy is probably going to dowhat he wants to make his money.
Yeah, well, I suppose that'sthe thing I'm going to shut my
mouth here, because they've gotfull control of me.

George (01:07:45):
Yeah, what else is exactly right?
You don't do that.
If I don't do it I'm going toget fucked.
Don't make half a million ayear, yeah.

Robby (01:07:52):
Go lay bricks.

George (01:07:53):
Probably make half a million dollars a year laying
bricks anyway at the moment.
Good job, bricklayers.

Robby (01:07:58):
Brick, that's it.
Yeah, how good that's.
Two very different worlds thatare both headed too far on one
spectrum and there's probablylevels of stress there too.

George (01:08:10):
I'm sure he felt stressed in that moment because
now he's going to getscrutinized and probably branded
in a way that's not reflectiveof his beliefs, just because he
said something Do you know whatI mean?
Like that, it might have been aslip of the tongue.
Hey, maybe and we don't knowthis he genuinely meant it.
Maybe he hated him, maybe hegenuinely feels that way.

(01:08:30):
Who knows what?

Robby (01:08:33):
Was it West Coast?
I can't remember.

George (01:08:36):
Regardless whoever it was.
Maybe he feels that way, but ishe not allowed?
Like we say, we live in a freecountry.
Do we Like free speech?
Do we?
Yeah, exactly no, we don'tExactly.
Country.
Do we Like free speech?
Do we yeah, exactly no, wedon't Exactly.
You have to conform to some 40players can't say anything, yeah
.
Yeah, it's a show.
It's not like UFC.

Robby (01:08:52):
UFC go to town.

George (01:08:52):
Yeah, ufc don't hold back.

Robby (01:08:54):
Yeah.

George (01:08:59):
I love that about chat.
I'm going to go home and I justfeel good.
I feel good.
Guys, what a life.
Memento mori, Remember you'regoing to die?

Robby (01:09:09):
Do you want to tell people about an upcoming?

George (01:09:11):
event I do.
I do because I think, in orderfor you guys to get the absolute
most out of this, you need tocome to the Builders Summit.
We're holding the BuildersSummit again for the first time
in over 12 months.
It's one of my favorite events.
It was the very first eventthat I ever did that you were at
that, we all.
We've done almost every eventtogether since People message me

(01:09:33):
about this.
Yeah, it's one of the best.
I think it's one of the besttrainings out there for builders
and trade professionals,especially if you want to be
successful and go down that pathand win.
Win the game, because it's notalways going to be easy, but it
will be worth it, especially ifyou have the right processes,
systems, procedures and peoplein your corner, and that's what

(01:09:55):
I want to do.
All these experiences andeverything we just spoke about
today are real life things thatwe now go out and teach you how
to manage, because I promise you, if you are in business any
business you're going to havethese days You're going to have
moments like we've justdiscussed today.

Robby (01:10:11):
I'm going to put you on the spot here.
Are you doing a giveaway?

George (01:10:14):
A giveaway?
Yeah, why not, if someone?

Robby (01:10:18):
No no.

George (01:10:20):
Get there.

Robby (01:10:20):
When Not a?
Send us a message.

George (01:10:24):
Oh, not like free tickets or anything like that.

Robby (01:10:26):
No, no, no, no Like for the whole event.

George (01:10:27):
Oh, without a doubt.
Without a doubt, yeah, okay,fuck off.
I'm going to give awaysomething sick to the value of
something sick.
I'm going to give away I don'teven know what, though.
Okay, and a spitball, you'regoing gonna get Makita tool set.

Robby (01:10:46):
Makita.

George (01:10:48):
I like Makita which do you have a brand of tools that
you like, of course, which one?
Milwaukee, milwaukee, alright.
I don't look like a Milwaukeeguy nah, you definitely look
like a Milwaukee guy.
What do you think deal that'sfor the game?
Hey, I'm gonna send you toPride Management.

Robby (01:11:02):
Yeah, don't do that Sorry .
Sorry man Apologize.

George (01:11:06):
We're going to give away something sick.
You're going to want to bethere.

Robby (01:11:08):
Dan, from the next four episodes You're going to want to
be there.

George (01:11:11):
Robbie's put me on the spot now, but I'm going to go to
Bunnings.

Robby (01:11:13):
Yeah, buy something sick.

George (01:11:18):
Some sort of there, the tickets that you will-.

Robby (01:11:21):
Will be given away to someone attending on the day, so
how much does it cost them toget a ticket?

George (01:11:26):
Cost them nothing.
So there's free tickets.
You want to come here and bethere.
This is what we want to makethe game easy to win.
We always say these sayings,but I do.
I want to make the game easy towin for you guys to be there.
So this is an absolute freeevent.
Now, when I say free, we allknow it's not free.
You do need to give upsomething.
You need to give up your time,you need to give up your effort
and you have to show up on theday.

(01:11:47):
There is a level of commitmentthat you are going to need to
invest.
Also, landing page We'll put itin the show notes, in the
comments, in anything below thatyou can click on Everywhere.
Everywhere.

Robby (01:11:56):
It's going to be everywhere and if all else fails
If you touch your screen atthis point, you're probably
going to If all else fails, goto our website builderelitecomau

(01:12:19):
, and you'll be able to navigateyour way to a ticket.
Yeah, there's pop-ups.
It's linked in the banner onthe top of the website.

George (01:12:25):
Everything's there.
Everything's there.
But the important thing is wewant to use this platform not
just to help or not just todiscuss great things that we're
doing in business and in life,but we want to use it as a
platform to help people too.
And you get to come and see me,and Robbie goes deep on
branding and marketing.
He's been at every single eventand, honestly, like crushes it
every single time.

(01:12:46):
Every people, every person thatwalks out of that room, they're
just shaking our hands andthanking us and going that was
amazing.
I never knew that before Iwalked in.
And that's our goal.
It's a good day.
It is, it's a great day.
They're fun too.
We don't make it boring.
I'm not you and talking to youfor eight hours.

Robby (01:13:02):
It's an interactive, it's an immersive experience and
that's what we wanted and youget to connect with some of the
greatest minds in the industryin the room as well.
You know people who are lookingto get better.
We spoke about how business,you know, can be lonely and
sometimes you feel like youdon't have those people to
connect with.
And who better than to connectwith than people that are doing
exactly what you're trying to do?
So, working in the same space,doing the same sort of thing,

(01:13:24):
same wins, same struggles youknow what I mean.
It's it's the perfect room.

George (01:13:29):
It's so.
You couldn't have said it anybetter.
It is so true, so true, yeah,so get there, guys.
It's oh dates September, the2nd of September.
It's going to be at Bell'sHotel in Melbourne the 2nd of
September, and then we'retravelling south, no north.
We're going north to Sydney.
We're going north to Sydney onthe 4th of September, in

(01:13:53):
Parramatta, at Club ParramattaGreat venue.
Checked it out a couple ofweeks ago, a few weeks ago and
that's where we're going to doit, that's where the magic's
going to happen Melbourne andSydney, second and fourth of
September.
So it's not too far away, butdefinitely register and get
there, because it's going to bea great experience for you.

Robby (01:14:09):
Yeah, all the links below .
Otherwise guys, thank you forlistening.

George (01:14:13):
Thank you so much.

Robby (01:14:14):
Don't forget to subscribe to the channel and share this
with your mother.
Boom, thanks guys, thankseveryone.

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