Career Advice for Gen Zers

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What life advice would you give to an 18-year-old who has no idea what to do after high school? In this candid, no-holds-barred conversation, we tackle this challenging question by rejecting conventional wisdom about following passions and instead focus on practical strategies for success.

The most liberating insight? Whatever you do for the next five years, even if you "completely ruin it," you'll still be fine. This perspective removes the paralyzing pressure many young adults feel to make perfect decisions right out of the gate. Instead of forced career choices, we advocate for experiential learning - working for free with successful people, building fundamental skills (especially sales), and taking calculated risks while you have minimal responsibilities.

We challenge outdated notions about traditional career paths, particularly in light of AI and automation. Many jobs that seemed secure a decade ago (accounting, aspects of law) are increasingly vulnerable to technological disruption. Instead, young people should focus on digital literacy, personal branding, and developing skills that complement rather than compete with automation.

Throughout our discussion, we emphasize that confidence isn't about eliminating self-doubt but acting despite it. This applies whether you're considering entrepreneurship, trades, professional careers, or any other path. We also dig into how background and environmental factors significantly influence which advice will resonate - what works for someone from an affluent suburb differs dramatically from what might help someone from a disadvantaged area.

Whether you're a young adult seeking direction, a parent guiding a teenager, or simply interested in how career landscapes are evolving, this episode provides refreshingly honest perspective without the motivational clichés.

Episode Transcript

Robby (00:00):
A video a week.
What do they actually do?

George (00:02):
when you say a video a week.

Robby (00:03):
Yeah, they put scripting.
They do a whole bunch of stuff.
You heard me.

George (00:07):
Yeah, yeah, let me know That'd be sick.
Yeah, yeah.
Are you going to do it for yourpersonal brand or for, like,
what are you going to do it for?
Or just anything?

Robby (00:16):
As in, what am I going to leverage the?
Yeah, probably for a personalbrand.
What brand?
What else am I going to do forthis?
I'm just going to take whateverthey teach us and do it for
this.
Isn't that?
Is that not the play?
Yeah, sick Good.
Is that straight?

(00:39):
That's good.
Everything's plugged in.
Nothing's going to die.

George (00:44):
Put this shit on silent could be zoomed out though
million dollar.

Robby (00:52):
You reckon that far out a bit more in.
We will try and end the top ofthe sign.

George (00:57):
Yeah, that's it fucking pictures shows your face got a
square on your face.
That's sick.

Robby (01:04):
Focus fucking pictures it shows your face, got a square
on your face.
That's sick.
I don't even know it's focushopefully that lined up that's
right.
It's on permission.
Alright, I'll see you tomorrow.
See ya um.
What are you doing?

(01:25):
Haha, that's sick.
See ya when are you going?
That's sick.
It's the fucking world we livein.

George (01:34):
Yeah, I was speaking to my mate that came in earlier
about it before.
Just okay, have you ever heardof AI agents?
And he's like nah, I'm likefuck, blow your mind, it's all.
It's all.
Everyone's just using chat GBTto ask them what the fucking
weather is.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, how do I get here?
What's a good restaurant?

Robby (01:50):
Did you ask the restaurant question?

George (01:52):
Huh, no, I never have.

Robby (01:53):
Yeah, no, I reckon people are.

George (01:56):
And that shit blew me away yesterday for what I did
with this, that application Iwas telling you about.
That was complicated shit.
It gave me better answers.
That's not even thatcomplicated, I know, but it's
like I, a person, would havedone a worse job.

Robby (02:09):
Yeah.

George (02:10):
A person would have done a worse job and it would have
taken them fucking days tocomplete this thing, and I did
it in like three hours whenUsing chat.
Yeah.

Robby (02:17):
When, when the AI makes a mistake, it's usually the
person who prompted it.
Yeah, usually the person whoprompted it.
Yeah, it's not it's, it'sreally the the AI soul, hmm.

George (02:28):
But, but, but, but all right.
Hey, how old are you Me?

Robby (02:34):
Yeah, how old am I, or how old do I feel, how old are
you biologically, um so you know, how many times has this body
been around the sun, around the?

George (02:42):
sun 34.
Cool.
So in 34 years of experiencethat you've had on this planet,
I'm 40, nearly 41.
Hey, it's my birthday soon.
You got it in your calendar, ofcourse.

Robby (02:53):
Yeah, good, I thought so.
Every day it was George'sbirthday, every day.

George (02:56):
Yeah, so I was thinking about this the other day.
I've got nephews and I oftenget young kids coming up to us
at events and just anywhere.
I often get it in my DMs peoplein uni or in TAFE or in high
school and asking me for advicelike what should I do?
So I wanted to talk and getsome feedback from you today

(03:18):
about if an 18 year old came outof you he's fresh out of school
.

Robby (03:22):
Came out of me.
Came out of you came fresh outof school.

George (03:25):
Hey, you never know in these odds Jesus.
You don't know in this day andage.

Robby (03:28):
Put your kids to bed.

George (03:30):
So if a 18 year old came out of school and came over to
you and said Robbie, I don'tknow what to do with my life,
what should I do?
What profession should I take?
What things should I know orlearn, like what's going to give
me the biggest level up oneverything and everyone?
Where would you tell me tostart?

Robby (03:51):
Well, the first thing I'd say is what are you passionate
about?
That's a joke, I knew it.
I knew you were talking shit.
Follow your dreams.
Follow your dreams.
If you like painting, just gopaint.
And if you like that thing,yeah, the money will come.
Yeah, it'll just come inbecause you love what you're
doing and you'll never work aday in your life Wrong.

(04:11):
Where's the sound effects now?
Huh, I definitely wouldn't saythat, that's for sure.
It's a hard.
It's a hard thing to to reallylike you hard.
Um, it's a hard thing to toreally like you know, you, you
can sell what you've learnedfrom your experience, but you

(04:32):
can't sell your experience.

George (04:33):
Yeah, no, compression algorithm for experience.

Robby (04:37):
Compression algorithm.
Not one, what a word.

George (04:41):
I heard that saying somewhere.
I think I've even said it atevents, but it's true.
You like, there's some thingsyou do need to experience and
you can't just teach itnecessarily.

Robby (04:50):
Yeah.
But I would say you know whatI'd say?
I would say go and do like.
I remember and maybe this isjust me because I got off to the
incorrect start.
I'd say and I'd say likeincorrect start as in I went
down a field.
I was, I thought I was going togo down at the time.

(05:11):
Yeah, didn't end up playing inthat field at all.
Do I have skills from that?
100%.
You know what I mean.
Can I handle tools better thanmost people?
100%.

George (05:22):
Yeah, you've got some life lessons there.
You've got some life lessonsthere.

Robby (05:24):
You've got some life skills there.
Oh, you can fix stuff that'sbroken 100%.

George (05:28):
Yeah, your first thing isn't like oh, let me call
someone, You'll be like allright, cool, there's logic
behind this microphone.
Let me figure it out and I'llfix it.

Robby (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can generally fix most things.
Most tradies listening to this.
I can tools better than you.
I know hard to believe this guysits behind a computer all day.
Yeah, it's reality.
But if I could go back, what'sthe one thing I'd do?
I'd probably go and work forsomeone for free, Like someone

(05:54):
that I'm like.
You know, if I knew I was goingto go down this space, which
obviously, hindsight's abeautiful thing.
Yeah, but at the time I'dprobably go and say, okay, cool,
like what I do for the next fewyears doesn't matter.

George (06:05):
Yeah, yes, exactly, I think let's remove you from it
for a second.
We're giving advice to someoneelse, so we're going to say hey,
kid, this is what I recommend.

Robby (06:14):
Can we give the kid a name?

George (06:15):
Yeah.

Robby (06:16):
Joshua, hey, joshua, doesn't matter, because you're
going to die.

George (06:25):
You're going to die, yeah, memento Mori.

Robby (06:27):
Say listen, your whole, whatever you do for the next
five years, you can completelyruin it and you'll still be fine
.

George (06:35):
Totally fine, because you go and ask any 30, 40 year
old that's like, oh well, like,what do I do now with my life?
They still don't know whatthey're doing now, even though
they're still young as fuck.
They would look back and go ohman, if I wish I would give
anything to be 18 and waste twoyears doing whatever.

(06:55):
So I think there's always thispressure and this rush of finish
school, go get a job, which isyour career for the next 30
years.

Robby (07:07):
I think there is that level of pressure, and it
generally comes from the parents, older generation.
Whoever it is, go to uni, go dowhatever you have to do.
Also, the environment.
I went and worked atMercedes-Benz by manager of the
department, the workshop managerat the time, Helen Vigneault,
35 years.
He's like I've got to do that.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's the path.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I just stuck around for long enough.
I've got to do that.

Robby (07:24):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, like that's the path.
I just kind of stuck around forlong enough.
Same.

George (07:27):
I was at Maldives I was like, yeah, the career path is
okay, do this become asupervisor, become a PM, become
a construction manager?
Or when I'm a constructionmanager, that's the big bucks,
you know 30, 40 years.
It was that corporate mindset,because, again, that's what you
get shoveled in.

Robby (07:46):
That's what you learn, that's what you see and that's
what you think.
That's how the world works,like that's how okay cool this
is.
This is the route.

George (07:59):
So definitely try shit would be the first thing.
Like go and try a whole bunchof things because there to go to
work now Because I think yourshit's broken, then you don't
want to hate it.
It can be hard, that's fine andthere can be purpose to it.
So yeah, you could do that hardjob that you know in six months
is going to lead into thisopportunity or contact with that
person, whatever it is there isthat element, isn't it?

Robby (08:18):
when you hate something, isn't it just meaning that
you're attaching to it?
Yeah, absolutely Unless.
Every single person hates thatsame thing.
It's like I like to look atthings objectively and it's like
okay, let's say, for example,person A hates their job, hates

(08:41):
it, hates it, hates it.
What's their job?
They do one, two, three.
Person B doesn't mind their job, they do one, two, three.
And it's like how can bothpeople go through the same thing
, like do they have the exactsame experience?
And one, it's a completepsychological torture and they

(09:02):
have to wake up every day anddrag their feet and hate their
life and be miserable.
And the other person just saysmeh or loves one, two, three,
yeah, I'll just.
You can go complete extreme,yeah, yeah, um, yeah, definitely
.
Like isn't that just themeaning you're attaching to it?
Yeah, that's right, you knowhating your job.
It's like it's almost like youfeel like the only reason you

(09:25):
ever really hate something isbecause you feel like it
shouldn't be that way yeah, yeah, it should be different, yeah
it's not fair or you know.

George (09:32):
This should be different .
I suppose, before the personasks, I'd say, like, what do you
want out of life as well,because I think that's important
.
It is important, it is hard,but it's also.
There has to be a level of,well, what direction?
Do you want to become a reallywealthy person?
Or do you want to live off theland?
Because there's no pointtelling that person okay, go
here, go do this, learn sales,learn marketing, learn branding,

(09:53):
all that sort of shit.
If you just want to live offthe land and live the simple
life, like there is a element ofsomething that you want.
Now, I think, from a level oflet's just talk money and wealth
and success and all that sortof stuff, I think if you can be
good and master sales, you'llnever be hungry for the rest of
your life.

(10:13):
It doesn't matter what area,what field, anything.
If you can master sales and beable to sell a product or a
service, you will never gohungry and you will probably
make a lot of money along theway.
I think sales should be asubject at school.
That's what it should be.
Sales should be a subject.
You should be able to sellthings and be able to sell a

(10:34):
service, a product, yourself,and whatever that might look
like, I would definitely tellthem to go down that path and
start to study sales andunderstand sales.

Robby (10:44):
Yeah, I think sales is um .
What's the first step tobusiness?

George (10:49):
Most people, especially in business, I think, learn
sales as they go and most peopleprobably think they're pretty
good at sales.
You know they go.
Are you good at sales?
Yeah, I can sell.
Yeah, I've sold this, I soldthat.
Yeah, I'm really.
I'm a real estate agent, I'm abuilder.
I just got this contract.
I sold my services, I sold thisproduct To your referrals?

(11:10):
Yeah whoever it might be.
Yeah, exactly, whoever it mightbe.
So I think a lot of peoplethink they're good at sales, but
when you actually get into it,there's so much technical aspect
to sales with language, withdemeanor, with communication.
Yes like qualification processunderstanding.

Robby (11:28):
what are the drivers, what's the motivation, what's
the real pain point?

George (11:33):
The pain point.
What's the underlying?

Robby (11:34):
Asking the right questions, yeah, asking the
right questions, what's theunderlying belief?
And then taking that questionand getting the answer from them
and then holding it and thengoing through everything else
and then slamming it on themsaying that it and then going
through everything else and thenslamming it on them saying that
it's going to fix their thingat the end, and then it's like,
if you do that, well, dude, Ihad a, I had a sales call today.
It's I was being sold to, yeah,and it's a great sales call.

(11:59):
I even said to him at the end Isaid hey, good call man.
Yeah, I said honestly, I saidyou spoke a level of knowledge
that few people can speak.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You referred terms to me and heobviously looked me up, like he
obviously did his research andyou know he was dropping Alex
Hormozy lines.

George (12:15):
Yeah, and I was like good on you.

Robby (12:16):
Like obviously one, you must consume the content.
But, two, if you say that stuffto someone else, they probably
won't get it.

George (12:22):
No, that's right.
Yeah, that's right, you pickedit up, he picked it up, so
that's good.
At that level there it buildsrapport really quickly.
Because then you go okay,you've got that communication,
yeah, you've got that wholething there where you can just
bounce off each other.
That's vastly important.
But so many people would justgo into it and go Robbie's a

(12:44):
marketing guy.
I'll just have a chat with him.

Robby (12:46):
Yeah, but so I used to do that.
You do like most people thinklike, okay, cool, go in, have a
conversation and kind of try andand push it in a particular way
.
Yeah, but should know that it'sfully structured.
Yeah, but it's very structured.

(13:07):
You should be able to get thesame result with someone else.
You should be able to havesomeone else do the exact same
thing yeah, and get a verysimilar result.
Yes, will someone be better ormore charismatic?
Yes, but you should be able toget something very similar.

George (13:25):
I would also encourage them to self-educate as far as
reading books, consumingpodcasts, getting information
from people seeking out mentorsor advisors.
So again, you mentioned go workfor someone for free, like that
could be a really good thing.
Go and work for someone thatyou admire and say it is someone
in sales, say it is someone inconstruction or marketing or
branding or whatever it might be, and really starting to put

(13:47):
yourself out there and go.
Okay, this is what I need to do.
Learn to eat shit for a littlebit as well, because that's what
that's going to be.

Robby (13:52):
What does that?

George (13:53):
mean Well, you're probably going to put in a lot
of effort without heaps ofreward to begin with Not always,
but initially and most likelyYou're not going to be very good
at whatever you're going to do.
You're going to have pretty lowvalue in that space.
No one wakes up in the morningas an 18-year-old out of school
and is a superstar and goes outand kills it day one and makes

(14:13):
hundreds of thousands, millionsof dollars.

Robby (14:14):
Yeah, but so like, how much money do you make for going
to uni?

George (14:17):
Yeah, fuck all.
Yeah, exactly, it's the samething, exactly.
And look, that's the otherthing we're talking about.
Because again my wife would belike, oh no, I want my kids to
go to uni, because she neverwent to uni.
It's like I did go to uni andI'm like yeah depends what you
want to do.
Like would you go and tell an18 year old today to become an
accountant.

Robby (14:38):
Me.

George (14:39):
Yeah, knowing what you know, shout out to all the
accountants out there.

Robby (14:43):
All the accountants who have no idea about business.
That was one of my biggestlessons.
Yeah, you think an accountant'sa business person.
Most of them have no idea.
Yeah, they're just accountants.
My fault, I'm thinking that.

George (14:56):
Made the assumption.

Robby (14:57):
Yeah, would I tell an 18-year-old to go become an
accountant?

George (15:03):
No, yeah, I wouldn't now either.
I'm just saying from theperspective of what's out there
with AI.
Now it's a profession that'sgoing to very quickly become
redundant the other day evensolicitors to a degree.
I had a contract the other daythat I had to review and, excuse
me, I put it into ChatJBT, Likenormally I would send.
That, Is it?

Robby (15:23):
Yeah, why like normally?

George (15:26):
I would send.
That is it?
Yeah, why it's?
The information isn't 100reliable?
Yeah, but it gave me enough.
I know enough about contracts.
I'm not a solicitor but I knowenough to go.
They're not really thatcomplicated like they're not
written in gibberish and it'shard like big words that I don't
understand, like I know whatit's trying to say.
So if I get certain things outof it that I know that I can
change, that I can amend thatsuits me, that helps me.
I think that's advantageous.

(15:48):
That just saved me $1,000,$2,000 to send it to a solicitor
and probably a week in timebecause by the time they review
it, read every word.
Dot the I's cross the T's,cross this out, add it back to
you, send it to you.

Robby (16:09):
I recommend this.
I recommend that here's my bill, and so on and so forth, and
it's only going to get better.
Yeah, the best way to do thingslike that is to break it down.

George (16:12):
Yeah, like don't put the whole, the whole contract in?
Why is that?

Robby (16:14):
It just it is more likely to make mistakes the bigger the
document Okay and misfits.
So, if you put too much inthere, like and I know a lot of
people like uploading a hundredpage reports, blah, blah, blah,
that's when she gets missed.
Yeah Right, it most likelymisses the first thing.

George (16:32):
Yep, yeah, yeah, cause I have noticed that as well.
I was putting in a.
I was putting in something andI knew it missed something and
I'm like, hey Cause you knowwhat to look for, that's right.

Robby (16:40):
So what happens when you don't know what to look for?
You don't?
Yeah, correct, it passes.
Think about this.
Think about how many timesyou've, hey, do this and then
it's like blah.
And then you're like, oh, anddo this, and then it's like blah
.
And then you're like and dothis and it goes blah.
And then you're like and dothis, and then it drops the
first thing, oh, right how Ithink I know, yeah, yeah, and

(17:01):
it's like all of a sudden.
You can't.
You're spiraling and you'relike this thing's got local just
losing its mind.
It's because you've dribbledtoo much information all on the
same task, yeah, and it can'thold onto every little bit of it
.
Yeah, Right.

George (17:16):
Yeah.
Still got limitations for now,for now.
That's what I mean.
It's better, isn't it?
There's another aspect of itlike understanding the digital
world that we live in, too,utilizing tools like that to
your advantage, so AI, forexample.

Robby (17:28):
That's what I'm telling them.

George (17:30):
Yeah, you have to now.
You have to.
It's there.
Stop using chat GPT to tellwhich restaurant to go and eat
at, start using it and learninghow to use it properly and then
educating yourself in all theother tools that are out there
and all the other things thatare out there.
I think that will be vastlyimportant in the age that we're
living in.

Robby (17:50):
Yeah, I think few people capitalize on what's about to
happen.

George (17:56):
Yeah, but by all means, if you turn around as an
18-year-old and say what do youwant to do?
I've always wanted to be adoctor, cool, you do have to go
to uni for that.

Robby (18:08):
There are certain things you're going to need to get
tertiary education, for ifthat's what you want to do, yeah
, they regulate the industry.

George (18:12):
I've got a friend who's a GP and I always tell him go
open a GP, go open up a practice.
Why don't you do that?
You're working for the man,you're working for someone else.
You're capped on how much youcan make.

Robby (18:24):
Why doesn't he do it?

George (18:25):
Well, it comes up with the excuse oh, do you know how
much insurance is?
It's fucked, it's this, it'sthis.
I'm like, okay, but there'sJeep, this, they can't be making
no money, surely not.
Insurances are too hard, thisis too hard, you're not making
any money.
I'm like, mate, it doesn't makesense.
It doesn't make sense, you'vegot to be making something.

(18:47):
They have to.
They have to, like you have tobe, they have to be making money
.
Surely, yeah, there's no level.
It wouldn't be so many GPpractices around, there wouldn't
be any no-transcript.

(19:13):
And then then I really gave itto him.
Like, why don't you get intocosmetic surgery?
Like, go and inject botox intopeople.
Yeah, killer, view wolf, andhe's a good looking bloke.
Shout out to my mate if you'relistening, that's his name, give
him a plug Orhan Gentleman anda scholar Over at that area.
I don't know that way, thatdirection, good looking bloke.

(19:37):
I said, mate, start injectingBotox into people's faces, all
the women will flock to you?

Robby (19:43):
Is he a single guy?

George (19:44):
No, he doesn't't, they can still flock, he can stay
away.
Chicks, well, what upguardrails?
Yeah, that's it.
But uh, but I'm saying like Isee that space like that.
We know, I know of a lady thatdoes it in the area, killing it,
killing it when I say killingit, dude, like making bank and
then opening up another one andopening up another one, opening
up another one and it's justlike, okay, man, like you're

(20:05):
making good coin, yeah, likeyou're not struggling, you're a
GP, you get some good money homeat the end of that.
He works like an animal, so whynot do it for yourself?
He was going down the ethicalside of it, not really helping
people.
Then, like you know, I wantedto become a GP to help people
and to make an impact and allthat sort of stuff.
I said, well, you're helpingpeople become beautiful, like
you're still helping, you'restill contributing and doing

(20:27):
stuff.
It's just in a different space.

Robby (20:29):
But so okay, so he was referring to that, not the
business.

George (20:32):
Not the business, but I still think he was getting in
his own way.
Like I said hey, man, like doit.
And he kept challenging me too.
That's me, because I'm verymuch entrepreneurial, I'll take
the risk With some people.
They're risk adverse.

Robby (20:48):
So do you think he's a good GP?

George (20:50):
I don't know.
Yeah, I'd say yes, yes, I do.
I haven't been to him, but yes,he's very smart, very
knowledgeable and, yeah, Igenuinely believe he enjoys what
he does.

Robby (21:02):
Open a business.

George (21:04):
Who him With him?
Yeah, I would do it.
That's it then.
Would you come to me for Botoxwhen else?
That's the only reason you wantme to open one up.

Robby (21:13):
Yeah, I just need a new Botox.
Yeah, that's it, a Botox guy.

George (21:21):
But you know that goes to show some people are also.
You do have to take some risktoo in life, and I think as an
18 year old you've got to tellthem that as well.
Like there's going to be.

Robby (21:36):
You're going to need to take a chance on things,
especially yourself, like backyourself, back yourself to do
these things.
Yeah, yeah, there's a level ofconfidence you'd have now that
you wouldn't have.

George (21:43):
Oh, without a doubt.
But know, I love this sayingconfidence isn't the lack of
self-doubt, it's being willingto try even though you doubt
yourself.
So you can still not doubtyourself in something, but have
the confidence to do it.

Robby (21:56):
Is it?
Yeah, I think so for sure.

George (21:59):
Is that confidence or courage?
It could be both.
Yeah, there's definitely anelement of courage there.
In order for you to becourageous, something has to be
like.
You have to have a level offear to it, otherwise you're
just existing.
But yeah, that's how I look atconfidence.
My wife always says to me she'slike you're arrogant or you're
overconfident.

(22:19):
I said no, no, I don't doubt Imight miss.
I might swing and miss, but I'mgoing to give it a crack.
I'm still going to have a crackeach and every time.
I'll just get back up and swingagain and swing again, and
swing again.
Each and every time I swing Ithink I'm going to hit it out of
the park.
I might miss, but I'm going tokeep swinging.
Eventually I'll hit it out ofthe park.

(22:42):
I think there's a level thatthey need to understand that.
We said this before.
It's probably not going to beeasy.
Not everything has to be hard.
There is an easy way to, in thesense of getting that
information.
That's where the advisors andmentors that's what a good
advisor or mentor does.
They give you that shortcut toa degree.
Hey, don't do it like this.

(23:03):
Don't go and spend.
Don't run what's called Twitterads.
Don't spend your profession onrunning Twitter ads.
Start looking at this platforminstead, because that's going to
give you better ROI or whateverit might be, if you don't know
any better and you're just likeI'm going to be different and
run Twitter ads.

(23:24):
But Twitter ads do fuck all foryou when you could have
invested that two years intoFacebook and you would have been
killing it.
There is a level of experiencethat I think you need to reach
out to mentors and advisors forstuff like that.
If you do have a field that youwant to get into, like say,
yeah, I love construction, Ireally want to get into
construction, great, get intothese rooms, speak to this

(23:46):
person, speak to that person, soyou'd send them to people.
Yeah, yeah for sure.
Or research this person, workfor this company.
Go and work for that, getexperience in that, like I often
get.
People ask me, builder, whyYou're not going to get your

(24:07):
license as a residential builder?
Working for a commercialbuilder?
It's like, oh, what advice areyou giving me?
Go and work for a residentialbuilder.
Go and get experience.
Take a pay cut.
You're not going to get thecommercial money, you will get
the residential money.
That's fine.
You're getting experience.
You're getting an opportunityto sacrifice now to get the
gains tomorrow.
What do you want to do?

Robby (24:26):
Why do you think people always want to do the resi stuff
?
I think Because I've heard thata lot.

George (24:33):
Yeah, it's because they think it's a cash cow.
Without a doubt, man, without adoubt.
Do you know how many people Iknow they want to become a
builder because they thinkthey're going to crush it and
make hundreds of thousands andmillions of dollars and become
this hotshot developer?
Most of those people are theones that go broke.
Most of them are I guarantee it, I know it, I see it.
They think they fucking knowthings about building and they

(24:53):
know nothing and also running abusiness, but they want to get
into that space because that'swhat they see.
They see a successful builderor a successful developer or
that 1% of the 1% and they go,yeah, I'm going to go do that,
I'm going to go crush it.
And then really, they get intoit and fail miserably.
Not all of them, but the vastmajority.

Robby (25:13):
History shows yeah, because I've heard that a lot.
Yeah it is.
I've heard a few differentthings.

George (25:21):
I see it.

Robby (25:21):
I see it now.
I don't want to do this, butI'm working it.

George (25:23):
It's like I see it.
I see people that shouldn't bebuilders.
I've seen them.
There's not that many out therethat will come to say at events
.
I don't really see them therebecause I find the people that
come to events are trying tolearn and become better and be
better, whereas people thatdon't will never step foot in an
event like that.

Robby (25:47):
I that don't will never step foot in an event like that.
I'm not going to waste my timethere.
I'm not going to spend ahundred bucks to go here.
I'm not going to go there forfree.
Don't be saying that you'd begetting scammed if you go to
those places.
I used to think that so muchDid you, I never thought that I
never thought that I neverthought that scam.
It's the environmental.
You know your beliefs as yougrow up.
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
There's things I look at nowand I think to myself that's

(26:09):
another thing, dude.
I'm questioning what this 18year old like.
What are you like?
What's their background?
How I would talk to someone whogrew up where I grew up and how
I would talk to someone whogrew up in Albert Park would be
very different.
Yeah, right, yeah, chalk andcheese.
Dude, you would not have thesame conversation.
Even if you said the exact samewords.
You wouldn't get the samemessage across, you wouldn't?

(26:30):
It's just the truth.
Um, there is no way.
Yeah, like, there is no way.
If you told me when I was 18,to go and sit at a computer and
do all that jazz.
Yeah, you know what I'm tellingyou I can't sit at a computer
and do all that jazz.
Yeah, you know what I'm tellingyou.
I can't sit at a desk all day.
That's what I would have toldyou.
That would have been my exactresponse.
I'm like I can't sit at a deskall day.

(26:51):
I hate, I hated school.

George (26:52):
Yeah, I can't do that I need to be up and about.
Yeah, Working using my, it'sthe new smoking.
Yeah, not the new smoking, it'sbeen.
It's been like that for a while.
You know, just sitting, notmoving around much Not good for

(27:14):
you.

Robby (27:16):
Yeah, but yeah, I would question their beliefs.
Where do they grow up?
You know what?

George (27:21):
I mean.

Robby (27:26):
Get some background information.
It'd be interesting to say whatI actually say.
Sorry, see what I actually say,Like it actually happened,
Knowing where they were from?
Yeah, just like, because youcan speculate and say you know,
I would tell them to read thisbook and I would tell them to do
this and study sales and blah,blah blah.
But it's like what do youactually say when it happens?
Hmm.
When the kid comes and says heyman blah, blah blah.

George (27:51):
Never liked school, hated school.
Never read any.
Never read a book in my life.

Robby (27:54):
Why am I going to read now yeah, I do.
That was me To a T Never read abook.
Read my first book when I was26.

George (28:01):
Yeah, I was I.
Yeah, I was quite late in theprocess as well.

Robby (28:06):
Yeah, never read a book, never did any of that jazz.
Thought it was like, why wouldI read?
That's for nerds?
Yeah, that's so funny.
But yeah, to be 18 again, man,I would encourage if I had a kid
, that's how I'm going to put it.
Yeah, if I had a kid.

(28:27):
When I have a kid, good, andhe's 18 or she's 18, I would
encourage, risk, like just fuck,give it a crack, even if you
fall apart by the time you're 25and everything you're going to
be so good on the other side.
Yeah, so true, give it a crack.

(28:48):
That's the part I wish I tookand I did.
I tried a few different things,but I wish I just had the
freedom I didn't have thefreedom to like get it wrong.
Even though I got it wrong, Ijust didn't have the freedom to
know I could.

George (29:06):
When you say that, what do you mean?
The freedom Like elaborate.
Like the A go and Like thepermission.
Yeah, no, not permission fromsomeone, but you know what I
mean.
Like from yourself.
Like it's not the be all andend all, and I think too many
you're right, I think like toomany 18 year olds probably have
that level of oh, if I fuck thisup like a whole year, a whole

(29:28):
year, and then I'm 19 and Istill don't have a career, I
don't have a job.

Robby (29:31):
I'll tell you how I used to think about it.
You know, when I was 15, I usedto think I'm going to drop out
of school.
This was my plan.
I'm going to drop out of school.
I'm going to go get anapprenticeship at Holden.
This is a true story.
I'm going to earn $250 a year.
Sorry, $250 a week.
That was the wage, around $250a week, Good, and I did this.

(29:53):
Three years later I earned $280a week.
Anyway, $250 a week.
I'm going to take $50 from mypocket and I'm going to put
aside $200 every week.
At the end of the year I'llhave $40,000 saved up from the
pay rises.
I will put $30,000 as a downpayment on a house and I'll buy

(30:13):
my WRX for 10 grand.
That was my mentality.
I was like cool, I can do this,I can do that, and that's it.
I'll have a house deposit,you'd still don't have a WRX.

George (30:25):
Never got the WRX shit.

Robby (30:27):
Um used to love WRX.
Did ya loved them?
That was like my dream car.

George (30:31):
I was always a HS.
I was the HSV aspect of it.
I always wanted a VT club sport1999 to 2000, that was my car.
Yeah, I was like 8.

Robby (30:46):
No, I'm Jesus, there was my car, yeah I was like eight
okay, I was um 16, but yeah,back to the thing.
So, like I had my whole thingplanned, like I had to do stuff
to get rich, succeed, you knowwhat I mean.
And I always had it mapped outin my head.
And I had it mapped out so muchthat I all, by the way, nothing

(31:08):
has gone to plan fromeverything I've ever mapped out.
But I had it mapped out so muchthat I was always like cool,
like I must do, like I need toget this right.
I need to get this right.
Do you know what I mean?
And the element of like hey,man, go and like go and work for
free.
Do you know what I mean?

George (31:28):
like the money you make from 18 to 24 is going to be not
even going to matter.
Yeah, and chances are you'reworking for free.
Your boss or the person you'reworking for or with is probably
going to pay you at some stage.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
He's going to be like alright,this kid's alright.
If you show some level ofhunger, let me get, let me get,
let me get, let me get lunch forhim today.
You know he hasn't eaten infour weeks.
Yeah, let me get some lunch forthe kid yeah, and then it'd be

(31:50):
like, okay, cool, yeah, comehere, all right.
And that, look, that happenedwith someone that works for me.
He did an internship because hehad to do it as part of his
work experience for uni.
So he did it with me, aninternship.
He had to do x amount of hoursa week, my cool.
Then he came on.
He's like, oh, look.
He's like, oh, look, I finisheduni.
Do you have anything?
I said, look, not at the moment.
I don't have anything paid atthe moment, but you can come in

(32:10):
however many times a week youwant.
I'm going to come in once aweek or twice a week or every
day this week, like whatever youwant to do.
So he would just come in andjust work'll get you a part-time
job.
He's like, yeah, sweet.
And then we went on another bigjob.
I'm like, oi, full-time.
He's like, yep, sweet.

(32:32):
And then came on full-time andhas been with me for seven years
, been with me now my longestserving employee and gone like
superstar.
And that's all because he gaveit a crack and just goes yeah, I
was willing to eat shit, Ididn't need to have that high
paying job of whatever it mightbe, and so on and so forth, and

(32:56):
I think that served him reallywell and I can think that will
serve others really well too.
But again, people aren'twilling to eat shit.

Robby (33:03):
That's what I would do.
Yeah, I would go and work forhim I also.
That's what I would.
Um, that's what I would do.
Yeah, I would go and work forfree, I also think it's it is.

George (33:09):
I think there's a level of difficulty for someone that's
18 years old these days as well.
Why.
From the perspective of havingthat direction and going well,
what am I going to do?
I think it's.
It's not as hard to make moneythese days.
Do you agree with that?

Robby (33:27):
Some level, some level of money Elaborate.
That's like if you were 18, isit easier now to make money?
Is it easier to make money asan 18-year-old now than it was
as an 18-year-old?

George (33:40):
30 years ago.
Yeah, is that what you'reasking?
Yeah, I think it is.
Why I think the internet's thebiggest leveler in that space.

Robby (33:48):
Yeah, but it also makes you compete.

George (33:51):
With other people?

Robby (33:52):
Yeah, I love how everyone's like an 18-year-old
can go and make money on TikTok.
And it's like go make money onTikTok, you mad dog.
Go show us.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like no, you can't.

George (34:02):
It's hard, it's not easy , yeah, and you pump out like
credit to you.
You pump out a lot of content,especially over the last three
months.
You've really hit your contentgame hard and it's sick.
Like I love all the shit thatyou're putting out and even then
like, okay, how much money haveyou made as a result?
Like, how much money did TikTokpay you this week Exactly?
Or YouTube or this or thisYou're paying him, if anything.

(34:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactlyright.
We were saying it the other day.
How many videos we put out onMillion Dollar Days?
Over 800?
, yeah, something like that.
Over 800 videos have gone outon this podcast, guys, yeah.

Robby (34:37):
Every episode gets sliced up into 10 videos.

George (34:39):
Yeah, that's fine, but that's still a video that gets
uploaded and onto there, andmost videos will get a small
amount of views.
We've had a couple that have afew thousand and 10,000 or
whatever it might be, but again,youtube haven't sent us any
money yet.
They haven't sent us any money.
So, yes, you're right in thatregard.

Robby (34:57):
It's not that easy to do so it's that easy, and I think
it's not that easy.
You're just being exposed to itmore.
Yeah, that more.
Yeah, that's all.
We're just more interconnectedand you're seeing, you're seeing
that, whereas that 18 year oldwas probably around, you just
didn't see it.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
He probably was somewhere.
Uh, whether it's obviously notin the same way that the
platforms didn't exist, but theymight.

(35:18):
It might be that genius youknow, because you hear about,
like that genius who's finisheduni at 13 oh, yeah, yeah yeah,
like it rings bell.
Yeah, you don't hear about thatanymore.
Yeah, when was the last timeyou had that?

George (35:28):
Last week.

Robby (35:30):
Yeah, like you're like me , but do you know what I mean?
Like I believe that stuff isalways happening.
I don't think it's, I don'tknow, I don't know I could be
wrong, but I don't do it.
Is it easier?
It's.
It's also more easier to bedistracted.

George (35:44):
Oh, massively, massively , and that's some good advice
too.
You've got to cancel out someof the noise, but that's the
thing.

Robby (35:51):
Does it make it easier?
I don't know.
Can I make money now betterthan I could when I was 18?
Of course, but that's with 16years of experience.
It's like can, yeah, I don'tknow.
It's like a MJ versus don'tknow, it's a, it's a, it's like
a mj vs lebron type questionyeah, I also think let's go down

(36:12):
.

George (36:12):
We're giving advice, so we've been giving advice.
Now we're saying, all right,kid, we're gonna get into sales,
you're gonna.
They want to, assuming theydon't want to live countryside
for the rest of their life andoff the land, we are going down
the path of you becomingeducated, going into a field,
learning sales, sales, learningthe game, probably going down
that business route.
I reckon they should also beserious about building a

(36:33):
personal brand too Early days,whether it's with your company
that you're working for or foryourself, whatever it might be.
But building a personal brandfrom a very early stage will be
advantageous to you, because ifI started building a brand even
in my mid-20s, I reckon I'd havesame with you.
Imagine you were putting outthat type of that much content

(36:56):
back then, 10, 20, 15 years ago.
Say, 15 years ago.
You're putting out a decentamount of content.
I reckon that would have anastronomical effect to where you
are today, regardless now 15years ago it was 2010.
Yeah.

Robby (37:10):
It's when Collingwood and St Kilda drawed in the granny
Think about that.
Yeah, that's sick, Like that'show long ago it was.
Most people had you gone tothem at the time and said, hey,
go make a video, be business, orgo make a video about yourself.
They'd be like, yeah, that'sweird on my Nokia 7210.

George (37:30):
Nah, there was iPhones.
No, no, that was iPhone 3.

Robby (37:31):
That was out by then 2010 iPhone 4 was it yeah there you
go, became an apprentice, Iremember.
Yeah, there you go at theiPhone 4, no WRX though you know
how you just remember no, wrx,ever, never got it.
Do you know how you remembervivid, like just the stuff that
you just remember?

(37:52):
Yeah, I remember that vividly.
I was a first year apprenticeand I was in the lift with a
sales guy and he was holding anon the phone on an iPhone 4.
I remember looking at it,thinking, oh, it's on the iPhone
.

George (38:03):
I remember the first one came out and one of the guys in
the office got one and he'slike, oh, check this out, and it
had a screen and it was tiny.
It was like this big yeah, itwas like it had a screen on it.
He's like I'm like what's juststupid.
Why would you do that?
You're like, oh, you're gettingthat beer thing and it's like
you know, have you ever seenthat app where it's like a beer,

(38:29):
it pretends it's like a take mymoney.
But yeah, I think building apersonal brand today is very
important.
I think you need to be knownand putting yourself out there
and connecting with people.
I think that's a very powerfulthing and I would recommend it
if you want to be in that space.
You don't think so?

Robby (38:43):
I'm just trying to think is that the thing I'd do as an
18 year old?

George (38:47):
You can still document the journey.
I think, yeah, I think startingbecause you're probably going
to suck as well at the beginningas far as how you talk.

Robby (38:54):
Yeah, it is 18-year-old me Couldn't never do that.

George (38:58):
Yeah, the same man.
I was doing stupid shit at thatage as in, I was immature.
I was very immature.
There'd have to be a level ofimmaturity.
Would you tell them to go havea gap year?
And what?
Travel?
Yeah, just go do sick shit,just do whatever the hell you
want.
Do whatever the hell you want.
I've got a couple of nephewsnow, both very young.
One's currently in Europe, 18years old, living his life.

(39:21):
So, yeah, that's good.
The grandparents are like, oh,he's got to get a job, he's got
to go do this.
He's not doing anything, relax,he's 18.
It's his first year out.
He'll get a job.
He's got plenty of time to makemoney.
He was saying, oh, I shouldcome get an apprenticeship with
me.
I said, well, if he wants to,he hasn't asked, I'm not going
to ask him.
Like he's 18?

(39:42):
Yeah.

Robby (39:43):
What did you say?
Your cousin, nephew, nephew.

George (39:46):
Nephew, but go out there , experience the world, go do
what you want to do, that's fine, as long as that 18 doesn't
turn to 28.
Do you know what I mean?
As in 28 and you've donenothing.
So that's where I would want to.
Okay, so it's coming back to myson.
Now, let's say, or my daughter.
I'm like cool, you want to haveyour gap year, go have your gap

(40:08):
year.
But there's a level of you'vegot to start standing up.
You're not living home forever,and I'm European, I'm Greek.
You might want my kids to staywith me forever.
You can be the 30-year-old, butyou're only if you're not
home-paying.
Playstation all day right, allday right.
Just half a day, that's right.
Just a half a day, yeah.
Or working three, four hoursjust to sustain your petrol or

(40:33):
your car or whatever.
It is.
No, no, you've got to beworking out there hard, and I
think that'll.
I was having this conversationtoday.
I think, subconsciously, I'vealready done that with my kids,
because they see me getting upnice and early, 5.30, 6 o'clock,
getting up, getting ready,going to the gym, going to work,
wherever I am, I'm up and I'mmoving.
Come home, it's always darkduring winter.
Leave at night.

(40:57):
Come home at night it's been abig day.
They see me work, so I thinksubconsciously there is a level
of that that he will see,because I saw it in my parents
too.
But yeah, I would want them notto be.
I want them to be go-getters.
Do you know what I mean?
Have that ambition about them.

Robby (41:08):
Like a level of hunger.

George (41:09):
Yeah, I think there has to be a level of hunger in that
person that's that Like you'vegot to be hungry, you've got to
want it because no one's goingto give you shit, no one's going
to give you anything in thislife.

Robby (41:22):
I don't care who it is.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think um, yeah, I think like mindset's,
everything man oh, so true, andit's hard.
It's hard in an 18.
It's hard in a young kid yeah,you just reminded me of someone
when you said 18, okay, not 28.
And then you think about, likeI know, some people who like you

(41:45):
, at a certain age where theyprobably should have.
More.
Anything More, like they shouldhave something going for them.
You know, yeah, and you're like, hey, like you'll start
adulting, like you know what Imean.
You're still acting like you're18 and you're not.
Yeah, it's not cool anymore.

George (42:04):
Yeah, it was cool.
It was cool for the first year.

Robby (42:07):
Yeah, but it's just like I don't know, you see, with
libos a lot.
Mm-hmm, I'm going to say everylego is going to hate this.
But you see, the youngest childis always like it's like they
almost never grow up.

George (42:20):
Did you straighten your mullet?

Robby (42:23):
When I was a kid?
Yeah, it as a kid.
Yeah, when you're 18, of course, every lebo does it's, it's
your part.
What is it?
Right of passage?
Yeah, I had to.
Yeah, mom made me.
But uh, yeah, you find like theyoungest child, if it's in my
experience.
I can be wrong, this may not berelevant to any family, but

(42:44):
I've just found that some peoplethat I know tends, in terms of
the youngest boy, tends to belike I said if the boy is the
youngest in the family, theytend to get so nurtured, so
babied, that they never grow upyeah, you know what I mean and
they never become their own manslash adult.

George (43:05):
I think that's relevant with a lot of AFL footballers
and hear me out.
So you often see not often, butyou'll see footballers acting
out, getting in trouble outsideof the club.
It's because I reckon I've gota theory around it because when
you get drafted into AFL, mostof the time it's in your pretty

(43:28):
early years, 18 to 20 years old.
Okay, so you've got a good ifyou're playing AFL.
You've got skills right At somecapacity.
You've got some skills.
So you would have been playinga good level of football in your
junior years, whether it wasrepresentative or country or
whatever it might be, and inthat club environment, like it's

(43:48):
a team.
So you're in a team, you'reoften playing with friends and
it's like a boys boys and we'remucking around and you go from
that environment into thesporting environment and it is a
professional sport, an AFLsport.
I still think that level ofbeing part of the boys club is
there and they continue that onuntil their late 20s, early 30s

(44:11):
and you still see that with someof these players.
That's why when they get tothat age they're not necessarily
that mature.
They haven't ever been punchedin the face.
They've.
You know they're having funlike they're getting paid to
play sport at the highest level.
Yes, and I'm sure there ispressure with it.
Isn't that the greatest thingthough?
Yeah, that would be cool.
I mean, man, when I was 16 to18, like I wanted to play footy,

(44:33):
like I wanted to play run onthe MCG.
That'd be the greatest thingever.

Robby (44:37):
Yeah, it's like.
I don't know what it is aboutthis, but most guys can relate
in the sense of like guys canrelate in the sense of like boy
goal after the sirens win thegame, like come on, like that's
fucking boyhood dream shit.
And it's like almost everyonesays like yeah except the gays?

(44:59):
I don't know, they play sport.

George (45:01):
No, no, I didn't think so.

Robby (45:02):
No, I don't know why would you not want that?
Yeah, like it's like yeah, Idon't know, or anything.
Basketball like buzzer beater.

George (45:10):
Yeah, yeah.
So I think that's important.
But again, advisors, mentors,like if you've got a mentor,
they're not going to tell you togo home early.
Play PlayStation today, you'llbe all right, that'd be sick.
Clock FIFA there's going to be.
Yeah, I think it's definitelyimportant having someone in your
corner to push you, andsometimes it's not your parents,

(45:30):
it's not those nearest anddearest to you.

Robby (45:34):
Especially if they're not doing what you want.
Yeah, exactly right.
Parents might be academics andyou're like I want to go be an
entrepreneur.

George (45:42):
Yeah, A business person?
White collar.
What's a professional?
Is it white collar?
What's a professional?
Is it white collar?
Yeah, and blue collar is like atrade type thing.
Yeah, they were speaking to afriend as well the other day.
So I'm like man, I'm whitecollar, my wife's white collar,
because my kids are going to bewhite collar, I'd like them to
be blue collar, but they're justnot going to be.
And what?
you never know he's like no, Iknow, I know, um, but yeah,

(46:07):
there's that pressure too, likeif you're a lawyer or a doctor
or an accountant, you often getpushed in that direction too.
See, I wouldn't necessarilytell my kids to be or my son or
anyone like that, to become abuilder.

Robby (46:21):
Is there anything you'd want him to not do?
That's a good question DrugsLike as a profession.

George (46:28):
Yeah, yes, yeah, I'm going to fucking tee off now.
If he grew up and became aparking inspector, I'd fucking
lock the door.
I'd change the locks on thehouse.
Why.
I got done last three nights ago.
Out here on Vic Ave, it'sfucking ropeable.
You're setting my cars there.
Last three nights ago, out hereon Vic Ave, it's fucking
ropeable.
My car's there right now.
I was ropeable because Istopped for two seconds to get

(46:52):
some food out.
I was picking up food from thechicken shop down here for
dinner.
What time I was like seven.

Robby (47:00):
How do you get done at seven Exactly?

George (47:05):
I nearly said it.
I nearly dropped the C-bomb.
He was watching me.
It wasn dropped, the C-bomb hewas.
It wasn't the parking.
Fine, that shit me.
I guess I was parked in thewrong spot.
What was it?
A loading zone?
Yeah, what pissed me off was hewas camping.
He was there because he knew hewas going to get five to ten
people that night stopping thereto pick up food.
There's your ticket.

(47:25):
There's your ticket.
There's your ticket.
That's what pissed me off.
So if you're a parkinginspector, you are the lowest of
the low.
The lowest of the low.
I do not like you.
You suffer off other people'smisery.
My wife was like are they justfeeding their families?
And it's just a job?
Like you, parked in the wrongspot.
I'm like no, fuck that guy orgirl?

Robby (47:48):
Wouldn't she get upset if she got the phone?
Who?

George (47:51):
Yeah, probably 100%.
She would 100%.
She'd come home cursing.
I'd be like relax.
It's going to feed the family.

Robby (47:59):
They don't pay comms.
Huh, they don't pay comms, theypay hourly rates.

George (48:02):
Who's working at that bloody 7 o'clock at night
issuing tickets?
100%, they're paid comms Better.
Yeah, 100% it is.
It's City of Port Phillip,those fuckers.
7 pm.
I'm throwing my wrapper on thefloor next time when I go
outside.
This guy.
Fuck the council.
Yeah, clean it up.
Pay someone to clean it up.

(48:22):
I'm surprised that you pay yourfines, please, is there a way?
Not, please, zero away, not to,you're just Lebanese again.
Just don't do it.
Just never take me to court,really that's exciting.

Robby (48:31):
unless it was in my mum's name, she'd make me pay because
she thinks they're going totake her to jail.
What are they going to do?
Nothing?
What are they going to do?
They'll send you a couple ofnotices like it's serious, and
then the last notice is red andyou're like I don't know, and
then nothing.
Nothing.
I'm excited, yeah.

George (48:49):
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to come to the office, I'm going to take it away in
handcuffs, I'm going to goRobbie said that he didn't get
anything.

Robby (48:56):
What am I here for?
Well, I'll be with him.
I'll be the one Get him manytimes.

George (49:05):
So yeah, if he became a parking inspector, I'd be very
disappointed, very disappointed.

Robby (49:09):
What if, um, no, um, honestly, what if he said, like
I'm going to be a Solicitor?

George (49:20):
No, absolutely Go for it .
Like, if you want to, if it'ssomething you want to do, like,
go for it.
You got my support what he says.
I'm just going to go work for acharity Again, if it's giving
him purpose.
Not everything has to be amonetary gain.
I think, though, cool, you wantto do that, you want to give
back Very noble.
But every decision has aconsequence, and this is the

(49:43):
conversation I would have withhim.
Okay, do you want to getmarried one day?
So yes, okay, cool, do you wantto have family?

Robby (49:48):
yes, so you're pretty much going to talk about it.

George (49:50):
I'm going to tell him the facts.
Yeah, I'm going to tell him thefacts because you think he
shouldn't.
He needs to know.
No, he needs to know.
Like, there's consequences toknow that you think he should.
You want to be a painter?
Like as a painter artist, anddo pretty things like great,
that's totally fine, man, likewhatever you want to do, but the
1% of the 1% will ever sellthat painting for $50 million.

(50:11):
Yeah, like, let's be real, whatdo you?
There's consequences witheverything, good and bad.
But you're going to need tounderstand that money is going
to be an important aspect ofyour life and you need to create
that If you're going to want tohave a family, if you're going
to want to have the house, thecars, the life, if you don't

(50:31):
want any of that and you justwant to live your own life and
do whatever you want to do, likewhat?
Do I mean it's?
like do it.
As long as it makes you happyand you feel fulfillment, go for
it.
Go for it.
But then don't also say, hey,I'm going to stay at home and
live off mum and dad until I'm55 years old.
Like no Consequences.
You want to work at a charity?

(50:52):
Cool.
Ask them if they're going todonate a house for you or your
next meal.
Like there's consequences.
What are you doing?

Robby (51:03):
But is there?
Okay, that's a very becausethere's no money.
Is there any professions apartfrom parking inspector?

George (51:10):
Yeah, parking inspector.
Yeah, don't do OnlyFans.

Robby (51:13):
Do you understand?
Do you understand like?

George (51:17):
Yeah, no, I know, I'm just trying to think of what
profession would be Like.
Would you like to go to thearmy Again?
I know, I'm just trying tothink of what profession would
be Like.
Would you like to go to thearmy Again?
I'd prefer him not to, it'sokay.
My dad, when I was 22, almostbought a motorbike.
No, not 22, 25.
I was mid-20s, almost bought amotorbike Hi-U song, you know

(51:38):
the ones, the big ones, the 250.
Yeah, it was a big one, but itwas a 250, so it wasn't very
quick.
Uh, met all my friends.
Actually we all booked.
We booked to go get ourmotorbike license on a saturday
or whatever it was.
Do you have a motorbike license?
No, I don't.
Oh, I don't.
I've ridden him a couple times,a few times.
Can ride one, but not not good,it's like a jet ski.

(51:59):
Yeah, anyway, well, I, well,I'm funny, you mentioned that.
So we booked to go get ourmotorbike license.
I got called into work atMaldi's.
I had to go and work on theSaturday, so I didn't go, I had
to cancel.
They all went, got theirlicense Next weekend.
They all bought motorbikes, allof them.
I'm like fuck, I didn't get one.
I had to re bikes, all of them.

(52:19):
I'm like, fuck, I didn't getone, that's a free book.
I didn't want to go by myself.
I ended up buying a jet skiinstead.
Now, anyway, during that time mydad was like, all right, cool,
I was telling him I'm going togo buy a motorbike.
They're sick, they're sick.
I could see myself reallyenjoying riding a motorbike.
I know I would.
He's like look, you can go getone.

(52:40):
Go, go for it.
He goes.
I'm not going to stop you.
You're a grown-ass man, Do whatyou want.
He goes, but he goes.
I don't think you should do it.
There's consequences.
That's going to come with thatIf you have an accident.
It's a matter of when, not if.
When you do it can belife-changing, serious injury,

(53:00):
injury for the rest of your lifeor death, because that's just
the facts, anyway.
So reverse psychology did makeme go.
Okay, I don't think that's forme, and I ended up buying a jet
ski instead.
But same thing with the army.
I guess I would have thatsimilar conversation.

(53:20):
I'd say, yeah, cool, that'swhat you want to do.
You have my support.
Just understand there areconsequences with everything you
do.
Would I want him to, but it'snot my life too.
Yeah, he could have a career inthe army that spans 50 to 80
years and retire a general orwhatever the highest rank is and

(53:43):
do sick shit, go all over theworld and never even fire a
bullet.
Do you know what I mean?
That's someone.
He could have that level oflife in the army.
But again, everything comeswith its consequences, good and
bad.
I think, ultimately, thedecision has to be that person's

(54:04):
.
I think that's what it comesdown to.
You're coming to me for adviceand say, hey, george, what
should I do with the rest of mylife?
I'm not going to make thedecision for you.
I will just give you theinformation and the information
that you get from me.
You do what you want with it,because I never want you to come
back and say you told me to dothis and I did it and it failed,
and now my life is miserableand it's your fault.

(54:25):
No, this is what you get, thisis what I've told you.
Take responsibility.
So I think there's a huge levelof responsibility on the
individual.

Robby (54:39):
Even at 18.
Has to be, has to be.

George (54:41):
Has to be Old enough to smoke, drink, vote drive has to
be, has to be a level ofresponsibility there.
How lucky are those that knowexactly what they want to do.

Robby (54:56):
You know how many people do you reckon know what they
want to do?
Do it and say you know how manypeople do you reckon know what
they want to do?
Do it and say you know whensomeone says it's going to sound
silly, but I feel like whensomeone says I've always wanted
to do this since I was young andI did it, and now I do it and

(55:17):
I'm that thing and it's likesomething that's like
Firefighter.
No, that's kind of cool, butit's something like uh, like, uh
, let's make this handful I cangive you like an audiologist or
like a optometrist yeah, I'vealways, and then you're like I

(55:38):
love eyes.
You're like man, like you know,and they're like I've always
wanted to do this, yeah, I'mpassionate.
And then you're like I loveeyes.
You're like man, like you know,and then, like I've always
wanted to do this, yeah, I'mpassionate.
And then you're like how muchare you free thinking here?
Like, how much of thesethoughts are actually your
thoughts not?

George (55:55):
someone else's been planted into you, yeah and I
think that's what one of myfriends was getting out a while
ago when he said you know, mykids are going to be white
collar workers, because maybethat's what they implant into
them as well.

Robby (56:04):
Yeah, or the kids just see the parents yeah, and kids
will do yeah, that's right.
What you do, that's right.
That's right, not what you sayyeah without a doubt.

George (56:18):
Without a doubt, what else?

Robby (56:26):
What would you do to be 18 again?
So much I would.

George (56:35):
You know, I like that question, I like thinking about
it, Like what would you dodifferently?
Like do it now, Like make someof those changes now.
Take a risk, maybe Go work forfree.
You say go work for free.
We're making good coin now,we're doing what we're doing in
our life.
Go work for free.
Elon knocks on the door.

(56:56):
There's an opportunity.
You get an email tonight fromElon Say hey, come work with me,
come chill out.
Not paid, just come chill out.
Why wouldn't you go do it?
If that's again something thatyou had an interest in doing,
why wouldn't you go down there?
Hormozy, messages you hey, justcome down.
I've seen your shit, I love it.
Come down, let's just hang outfor a week.
Just, I need you to just shadowme.

(57:18):
Do you reckon it'd be fun towork with him?
I don't know.
I mean, I think it'd be veryinteresting.
I think it would be quite fullon.

Robby (57:27):
Yeah.

George (57:27):
I don't think it would stop.
Yeah, Speaking to his team whenwe were there.
Like they're working Saturday,Sundays.
Yeah, it's like it's the normLike oh yeah, we work Saturday,
sundays here.
There's no bitching, there's nomoaning, it's just what we do.
This is what we want.
We want this level of life andwe know what it takes to get it.

Robby (57:43):
So we work Saturdays.

George (57:47):
Sundays?
Yeah, it would be a A lot ofpeople think of that and they're
fuck Saturdays, sundays who dothey think they are?
Take my time Cool, then get theresults everyone else is
getting.
That's his mindset with it,because you can work every
single day, because that's who Iwant to work here.
I want to.
I want people to work here thatwant to work saturday, sundays
and monday to friday yeah, Idon't know if I'd want to do
that for someone else I'm sayingfor a short time as an

(58:11):
experience I'm not saying to doit for the rest of your life.
You know, to work for free forsomeone, there would a level.
I think there would be thingsthat you would see spending a
month with him.
Oh, for sure that you'd be like, all right, that's cool, 100%
yeah, it would definitely add alot of value to you.

Robby (58:29):
Yeah, I reckon I've consumed a month of his content.

George (58:33):
He spent 120 grand to sit down for four hours with
Grant Cardone.
He said that a few times, andso he's actually spent money to
sit with someone and go, yeah,tell me what you want, what I
need to know.
And he took a lot of thatadvice to heart and blew up his
brand, arguably as a result ofthat conversation with him.
So, yeah, I think there'sdefinitely a level of, even when

(58:56):
you're at this level, to go andimagine you could a millionaire
, could shadow a billionaire fora while.
Hey, come on my jet, come onhere, let's go do this, let's go
do that.
Let me show you this.
Let me show you how to leverageyour millions and turn it into
billions, if that's what youwant to do.

Robby (59:16):
If that's what you want to do.

George (59:19):
I suppose this is where books are really cool too.
Though You're getting all thatknowledge in 200 pages, you can
be mentored and guided bysomeone that you've never met.
That's why it's so powerful.
I know people.
There's a little hack forpeople that don't like reading,
and I got this from Alex Hormozy.
It's listen to the audio bookand read along at the same time.

(59:40):
You can shoo them up.
I got this from Alex Hormozy.
It's listen to the audio bookand read along at the same time.
You consume up.
They say roughly I don't know ifit's to the point, but 60% of
the content you're consuming.
You consume that much more ofit than just doing one or the
other.
So if you find it difficult toread and sit down and just spend
some time, I think that's agood little cheat code for you
to do Listen and read at thesame time, and then eventually,

(01:00:01):
if you want to do one or theother, go for it.
That's totally fine, but atleast to get started.
If you're the type of personthat doesn't consume content, I
think that's a good little hack.
Do you like doing that?
Yeah, I actually enjoy it.
I actually enjoy it.

Robby (01:00:13):
It's the slowest way to consume content.
It would be.
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Because listening has theadvantage of you can do it when
you're doing something else, butreading is the fastest.

George (01:00:25):
Yeah, but I also.
The only reason I do it likethat is again to consume the
content more, because I findsometimes when I read I'll be
reading, but I don't take in thepage.

Robby (01:00:35):
That's because you're not reading fast enough.

George (01:00:37):
Or I just get distracted , or whatever it might be.
Read quicker, read quicker,yeah.
What if I?
Then I might even miss more.

Robby (01:00:44):
No, it's actually much the opposite.
Yeah, you're forced to payattention, like you know when
you're playing a game and you'vegot to pay attention, oh yeah.
Yeah, it's like if I getdistracted for a moment, I'm
going to miss.
And how focused are you read?
Otherwise, if you're going tooslow, your brain starts to say
what's going on there, what'shappening here?
Blah, blah, blah, and then youknow what I mean.

(01:01:04):
Yeah, absolutely Same thingwith audiobooks.
Don't you ever find like you'relistening and then you're
thinking about something, andthen you listen and then you're
like I don't know.

George (01:01:12):
What did I just say?
What did I just say I did,because you're like wait, what
are they?

Robby (01:01:17):
saying yeah, what are they talking about here?
It sounds interesting.
Go back, it's because it's tooslow, go faster.
Yeah, true, it's a real thing,I believe it.
Dude for whole speed readingcourse.
Yeah, who's that through.
Jim.

George (01:01:31):
Quick.
Oh yeah, I did that.
I read his book.

Robby (01:01:34):
Yeah, what do you?

George (01:01:35):
thinkitless book.
Yeah, it was alright.

Robby (01:01:39):
Yeah, it was okay.
He's got like some hacks andthings like that.
Yeah, nice guy, yeah, it's cool.
I like him, it's very cool.

George (01:01:49):
But yeah, I think readings Do you know what else I
would tell an 18-year-old?
What would you tell them?
I'd tell them to subscribe tothis podcast.
That would probably be thefirst thing I told them,
straight off the bat.
What should I do?
Million dollar days.

Robby (01:02:04):
Follow your passions.

George (01:02:05):
Which is on million dollar days, which is no matter
what it is.
It'll be here, we will cover itat some stage.
Get onto it.

Robby (01:02:17):
That's what I would tell them.
You gotta change the way we askpeople to subscribe.

George (01:02:21):
I didn't ask people to subscribe.
I didn't ask people tosubscribe.
I was asking the 18,.
I was telling the 18, I wasdemanding the 18 year old.
If you subscribe, I won't paymy parking, fine, and then I'll
document how many subscriptions.
I will document how manysubscriptions I want.
At least 30.
Huh, need at least 30.
30 subscriptions.
At least 30.
Huh, need at least 30.
30 subscriptions.

(01:02:42):
Yeah, at least Are you serious?
30 subscriptions.

Robby (01:02:46):
I'm not going to pay my parking fine and I'll document
my journey to jail 30subscriptions.
30 subscriptions.
Okay, you heard it here first,guys 30 subscriptions.
George Wayne paid parkingticket.
We're going to monitor it fromthis moment, right now, so as
soon as this episode airs within50 minutes or however long
we've been going of this thinglaunching we're going to monitor

(01:03:08):
the subscription rate and if wehit 30 subscriptions, it's easy
, easy work for you guys.
Will not pay his fine.
I won't pay it.

George (01:03:20):
And he'll have to post every follow-up.

Robby (01:03:22):
fine, he gets on his story, I'll even respond and
tell him to fuck off on one ofthem.
You know you can what's itcalled?
When you want to fight it,dispute it.
Yeah, the chicken shop ladytook ages.

George (01:03:38):
There was a lady in front of me.
She was taking ages to take herorder and the funny thing is, I
thought in my head.
I thought in my head, I'm likehey, hurry up yeah, I was gonna
pick my food up.
Dude like hurry up or do youjust get the gravy?
It's not a fuckinglife-changing decision, just get
the gravy or or so she was.

Robby (01:03:57):
Oh, she was doing something stupid, um, or we'll
set it up again tonight.
And then, as soon as he comesout to us, he calls out of the
bush.

George (01:04:08):
Hey, get him.
Yeah, gotcha, yeah, okay, goodstuff, all right, well, watch
this space 30 subscriptions.
Guys Watch this space.
Get on that subscription trainIf this works man, I'm going to
jail.

Robby (01:04:22):
I'm guys, watch this space, get on that subscription
train.
If this works, man, I got ajail.
I'm going to display all myfines.
We're going to get a platinumplaque, yeah, by the end of that
.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be great you canhang that in your jail cell.
That'd be good.

George (01:04:35):
How good's that?
Thank you very much, guyslistening tuning in again for
another week.
Hey, ivan, I hope you're havinga million dollar day, I hope
you subscribe and George isforced have to To not pay.

Robby (01:04:50):
Have to, he's fine.

George (01:04:51):
And then I can even put it as a reason when I go to the
judge he's like I said, judge, Igot 30 subscriptions.

Robby (01:04:58):
He's like ah, throw it out.
Throw it out, what's?

George (01:05:00):
the podcast, let me subscribe.
That's it All, right, guys.
Thank you so much All right,thanks, chat soon.

Robby (01:05:07):
Bye.
I've got a very good um in themiddle of that.
Yeah, it would be a debate.

George (01:05:17):
Oh hell, owner builders, oh yeah, so you'll be pro and
I'll be con, or I'm not pro, butI'll do it.
Oh yeah, I couldn't give a fuck.
Yeah, yeah, but I'll do it.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah,because we want those
controversial topics.

Robby (01:05:29):
Yeah, I think it would be a solid yeah.
Um, you know what I meanBuilder.