How To Deal With Online Hate

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Have you ever posted something online only to be met with unexpected criticism or outright hate?

In this raw and candid conversation, we pull back the curtain on what really happens when you put yourself out there in the digital world. We break down the psychology of online criticism - why different platforms breed different levels of toxicity, what motivates trolls to attack strangers, and most importantly, how successful people maintain their mental health despite the noise.

"You're only ever going to get criticized by people doing less than you." This powerful perspective shift is just one of many strategies we discuss for handling negativity while building your personal brand. We share our own experiences with haters (including some hilariously absurd comments we've received) and how we've learned to separate valuable feedback from baseless attacks.

The conversation takes an especially valuable turn when we explore how to determine which criticism deserves your attention. We discuss the importance of considering the source - is this feedback coming from someone qualified to judge your work or just a random keyboard warrior? Understanding this distinction allows you to grow from constructive feedback while protecting your mental health from toxic commentary.

Whether you're building a business, creating content, or simply existing online, this episode provides practical wisdom for navigating the inevitable criticism that comes with putting yourself out there. The digital landscape is only becoming more crowded and contentious - learning these skills now will serve you for years to come.

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Episode Transcript

George (00:02):
There's something I've been meaning to tell you.
Go for it.

Robby (00:06):
Me or everyone?

George (00:07):
No, just you specifically Okay, guys, block
your ears Something I've beenmeaning to tell you.
You know we're 82, 83 episodesdown.
Yes, and I don't think you're agood podcaster.

Robby (00:19):
Look, that's been the word on the streets, on the
YouTube, On the YouTube.
I also.

George (00:24):
I also on the YouTube street.
I also don't think um, you knowwhat you're talking about.
I also have heard that yourface isn't very attractive, and
I look at it often because I'msitting opposite you.

Robby (00:44):
This is all.
It's not news to me, and I lookat it often because I'm sitting
opposite you.
This is all.

George (00:46):
it's not news to me, and also, I think you drive a shit
car.

Robby (00:54):
Now I'm offended.

George (00:57):
Yeah, that's I.
Just I'm glad I got that off mychest.
That's been thinking it for awhile and I just want to
publicly put it out there thatyou aren't very good at what you
do Do you feel better.
No, no, never mind, I don'tfeel better.
I feel like I might need to goand insult someone else as well.

Robby (01:12):
So all the people on the social platforms must not feel
better either.
You reckon.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know if you've seensome of the comments that have
been coming through lately, somelately, some of the stuff
people are saying on, and if youhaven't, I think it's hilarious
.

George (01:32):
It's so funny.
All you trolls out there.
It fucking makes our day.
Do you know how much we laugh?
We laugh so much.
So what I wanted to talk alittle bit about with you today
is how to handle that, because alot of people don't.
A lot of people get in theirown way when they see comments
like that.
They get very self-conscious,they get very upset because a
lot of these things.
You're upset that it didn'thappen earlier.
You're upset that it's taken 80episodes to get that sort of

(01:52):
feedback.
But, yeah, a lot of people getin their own way when it comes
to things like this.
They get upset.
It can also be very personaland very mean.
You know what I mean.
So I've recently did a trainingwith some mentees of mine and
we're talking about brand andbuilding their personal brand
and all that sort of stuff, andthe question often came up and I
always address it because Iknow it's an issue.

(02:13):
It's like you know, how do youdeal with the haters?
How do you deal with negativecomments?
How do you deal with this?
How do you deal with that?
And here's the thing when youstart to put yourself out there,
you're going to get people withdifferent opinions, first of
all, but also, you're just goingto get people literally they're
called trolls and keyboardwarriors, whatever you want to
call them.
You're going to get people thatjust hate on you, and I want to
talk a little bit about todayhow you go about navigating that

(02:37):
space, because it's a realspace and the bigger you get,
probably the bigger your hatersget too.
The more change that you forceand create and do, you're going
to get people that are jealous,that are vindictive, that just
do it for no fucking reasonwhatsoever.
So, yeah, I wanted to chat alittle bit about you, or about A

(02:59):
my thoughts on you and thispodcast, first of all, of course
, and B I appreciate thefeedback.
No, and please let me know howfantastic I am.

Robby (03:08):
I'll let you know off air .
So how?

George (03:11):
do you deal with?

Robby (03:11):
it.
Well, first of all, let's talkabout the platforms that it
happens on.
Let's touch on that first.
I think it's different on everyplatform, oh dude, it is 100%
different on every platform, youknow.
100% different on every.
You know what I've.
This is my own personalexperience, but I feel like
Facebook and Instagram are theleast.

George (03:28):
LinkedIn as well.

Robby (03:30):
Yeah, because it's people .
It's real people.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
So, no, no, it's when you go onplatforms like YouTube, all of
a sudden, the accounts are notreal.
There's no relation to theirname.
People that have profilepictures you can't tell who's
talking yeah, tiktok, same totheir name.
People that have profilepictures you can't tell who's
talking yeah, uh, tiktok, samesort of thing.
You use a 978247 blah blah blah.

(03:51):
Thinks you're an idiot?
Yeah, okay, cool, uh, reddityeah, no one has it you don't
ever use red never.
Anyway, people are very much thesame, like they're willing to
say whatever they want, becauseyou don't know who the end user
is and and I feel like peoplehide behind that mask.

George (04:05):
Yeah, without a doubt.

Robby (04:06):
Yeah, I find.
Anyway, we get worse.
I reckon it's across the board,but I'd love to know what other
people think.
But I think the comments areworse on, like TikTok and
YouTube.

George (04:16):
Yeah, I do get it, though.
I have had hate on Instagramtoo, though Very rarely Facebook
.

Robby (04:22):
I do with ads.
I've seen people get trolled onInstagram.

George (04:28):
Yeah, I remember a few years ago I went to the F1 and I
bought some merch.
I had a Mercedes jacket and ahat and all that sort of stuff
and I was talking about why Ibought it and all that sort of
shit.
It was like 100 comments,people just going to town on me
Look at this fanboy, drive tosurvive, fanboy.
All this sort of shit.
Bought a hat, good luck Welldone.
Spending 500 bucks on two items, all this sort of shit.

(04:51):
And it was nothing to do withthe actual merch.
It was a story that I had behindit and some people will
resonate and go yeah, that'sgreat, blah, blah, blah.
But yeah, it was amazing to seehow many people jumped on there
and wanted to actually puttheir two cents in and have some
level of authority, have somelevel of professionalism.
But they had the right or itwas their God-given purpose to

(05:14):
go on there and say somethingnegative or whatever it might be
, to bring me down.
For what reason?
And it didn't.
Again, I find it comicalbecause over the years I've had
a few videos that I've put upthat have thought-provoking
topics and then you get thosepeople with those radical

(05:37):
opposite idea about what I wastalking about.
So they come in there and voicetheir opinions, but it's not
often backed with fact, withanything.
They sort of attack youpersonally as well, and they'll
go look at this dickhead, you'rea wanker, you're this, you're
this, you're this.

Robby (05:52):
So one of the guys the video we did about, sorry, the
episode we did about politics,yeah, where we told everyone the
video ended with shouting atthe camera saying vote for
George.
Like just to give you contexton the video, on the episode.
If you haven't listened to it,yeah, go have a listen.
And people were coming at uslike this is not serious

(06:12):
political advice, boys, you know, pack it up.
This is embarrassing.
It's embarrassing and I'm likeit's embarrassing that you're
looking for serious politicaladvice.
You know what I mean.
Is it my fault if you came herelooking for serious political
advice?

George (06:22):
But it's also.
Oh man, it was funny.
This podcast just goes to showanyone can start a podcast.

Robby (06:28):
Yeah, it's called Podcast Bros.

George (06:31):
It was shit.

Robby (06:32):
Something along the lines of this social media scumbag,
yeah, and property developerthumb or something, and I'm like
cool man, like sure.
Well, I didn't cry that muchanyway.

George (06:46):
No, no, no, we consoled in each other, so it was all
right.
Yeah, I find them so funny, sofunny when I see that shit.

Robby (06:55):
Why do people do it?

George (06:57):
A couple of reasons.
I reckon their shit's broken.
Like, think about it, you haveto sit there, consume the
content.
Then you have to grab it andthen go in the comments, click
it.
You have to take these stepsand then type, yeah, shit's kind
of broken already to get tothat point, because if you think
about how long it takes someoneto interact with a piece of
content it's less than a secondwhether they're going to decide

(07:19):
to watch it or not Then theytake the next three, four, five
steps to then engage and commentand share it and say listen to
this dickhead, listen to this.
I think there's a level ofsomething's not right with them
in their life.
Whatever it might be, do youever leave negative feedback

(07:44):
period.
It depends, as in on someoneelse's content.

Robby (07:47):
Content oh reviews anything.

George (07:51):
No, not on a person I have for a company.

Robby (07:56):
So why a company?
Why is that different?

George (07:58):
Yeah, because they've personally done something that
didn't a lot Like.
They gave me bad service.
It wasn't a good thing thatthey did.
Fuck them, ldv.
I bought two LDV utes.
Fuck you guys.
Yeah, I bought two LDV utes andthe experience from the
purchase to the handover wasabsolute rubbish.
The car didn't come asspecified Like.

(08:18):
There was a whole range ofthings and, yes, I get, they're
an entry-level vehicle, butregardless, I bought two of them
.
They were the top of that rangeand it was for my employees and
the delivery service andeverything thereafter was just
rubbish and I called them out.
I called the guy.
I spoke to the director, not tothe director, to the owner of

(08:38):
that dealership, all that sortof stuff.
Yeah, and because I left theGoogle review and I just said
the truth, I said one star, likeyou guys, didn't do this.
This, this, this, this, justfundamental basic shit.
All right, I spent 90 odd grandwith you on your cars, whatever
it was, and you just didn'tgive me the service.
Like that's disgusting.
Anyway, he's.
He responded back to me.
He said oh sorry, you had thisbad experience.

(08:59):
Give me a call.
I said okay, and I was going toremove the review bite.
Mind you, I would have removedit had he then done whatever he
had to do.
He says give me a call, we'llhave a chat.
So I called him, said this andthis has happened.
He goes all right, we'll fix it, don't worry, come in, sort it
out.
So then I gave it to my PA.
I said look, you sort this out,I'm too busy, but just deal
with him.
He said he's going.
It cost me too much money toget you to even do this.

(09:22):
Just leave it, don't worryabout it, it's not end of the
world.
So that wasn't specifically toan individual.
I didn't attack him.
I didn't turn around and sayyou're a dickhead, you're ugly,
I don't like your face.
It was the service with thecompany and trust me like very
rarely do I have like that's theonly one I can actually recall
in recent times, only one.

Robby (09:44):
I can actually recall in recent times what's the
difference between?
Because you're attacking abrand at the end of the day.
So what's the differencebetween attacking a personal
brand than a business brand?
Like you're not even attackingfor the sake of attacking, but
like I feel like the people whowatched the content like they
must have.
There must have been some levelof upset by it.
That's how I look at it.

George (10:02):
What I saw was people that were in politics upset by
it.
That's how I look at it.
What I saw was people that werein politics.
They had a following in thepolitics, in that political
space, For that videoparticularly.
Yeah, yeah, I reckon, because alot of the comments were like
educate yourself, you don't know.
This vote Labor, vote Liberal.
But they all missed the point.

Robby (10:16):
They all missed the point , yeah yeah, they completely
missed it.

George (10:19):
It's like we were talking about the political
space, but also our perspectivewas one that was shared by
hundreds of thousands of people,if not millions of people.
In the sense of who the fuckare we going to vote for?
Why am I going to vote for thisdickhead or this dickhead?
They're both fucking dickheads.

Robby (10:37):
The ultimate question that was, I guess, put forward
in that episode was why should Icare?
That's what it was.

George (10:44):
Yeah, exactly that's what it was.
It's was.
Why should I care?
That's right, that's what itwas.
Yeah, exactly that's what itwas it's like.

Robby (10:47):
Why should like tell me, help me.
And no one gave us a singlereason to care.
That's right.
But, look, that's not here orthere.
We can sit here and tell allthese people about how they're
wrong and we're right, but wecould like, I guess what I'm

(11:08):
trying to get at is how?
Why is that different toleaving a bad review on a
business, do you know?
Because that, that is what that?
What they did is like hey man,I had a shit time here.
Yeah, yeah, whilst I listenedto the podcast.
Yes, yeah, that's what itessentially is.
It's like I came, I had anexperience.
I didn't like it.
If it was google, we probablywould have got two stars, two
stars, stars.

George (11:24):
How funny, but what's the difference?
What's the difference?

Robby (11:26):
The difference, because you just said I will do it for a
company.
I wouldn't do it for a person.

George (11:31):
No, I would do it to a person in the sense of.

Robby (11:34):
I will do it If someone puts up a video and I completely
disagree with it.

George (11:37):
Yeah, that's what I mean .
I would say that, but I wouldn,personally.
Do you know what I mean In thesense of you?
Go, look at you.
You're fat and ugly.
Why will I listen to you?
Do you know what I mean?
Like I wouldn't do that.
That to me is is so negative?

Robby (11:50):
What's the?

George (11:50):
worst review you've ever given a company no-transcript.
I'm going to go to town, yeah,if you upset me.

Robby (12:14):
I'm coming for you.
Every single one of the peoplethat left a comment.
I'm coming for you.
No, no, but like I've gone totown on some companies.
Yeah, like absolutely gone totown, like if I get really,
really dude.
You know what bothers me morethan anything?
This is going to go so sideways,but like, for example, a pizza

(12:35):
shop, you guys just make pizzas.
You should be able to make adecent pizza.
It doesn't have to be great,but it's not hard to make a
decent pizza, yeah.
And then you go and it's likethis is all you do.
You've got one job and you fuckit up.
Do you know what I mean?
You give us the wrong pizza, orthe pizza tastes like shit or
it's not cooked well, and it'slike what are you guys like?
What are you doing?

(12:56):
Like this is fucking.
Come on.
One job, one service, oneproduct, one thing, one Like
that's all you have to do.
And you can't even do that.
Right, Cooking ain't that hard.
Do you know what I mean?
If I go somewhere like, and Idon't have like a, I went to a
five-star restaurant and blah,blah, blah, it's like no, no, no
, no.
Like, make it eatable.
I'm not.

(13:16):
My standards aren't that high.
Like you know, I'll foods, andit's like you make it so bad.
I feel like pizza now.

George (13:28):
I feel like pizza every day, every moment of every
minute context it's quarter past, that's nearly 9, 30 in the
morning am pizza for breakfast.

Robby (13:34):
It's the breakfast of champions cold pizza.

George (13:36):
How good is that breakfast of champions, do you?
Have do you like pineapple onpizza?

Robby (13:40):
yeah yeah, me too I like everything on pizza except
anchov, because that's notnormal.

George (13:48):
Arguably pineapple's not normal either.

Robby (13:50):
Yeah, get with the times.

George (13:52):
Did you know the Hawaiian pizza was invented by a
Greek.
Just going to leave that there,let's keep going.
Tell your friends, google it.
Some bloke in Canada, but hewas Greek immigrant and invented
the Hawaiian pizza.
Are you sure Greg's inventedeverything?
Of course, I'm sure.

Robby (14:10):
No comment.
I'm sure someone else will,though, clip that and post it on
TikTok.
Long story short.
If someone really upsets me, Iwill take the time to say, okay,
cool, I'm going to let thisperson know.

(14:31):
You know what I mean, but I'mnot.

George (14:35):
I'm not a douchebag.
Yeah, you're not petty about it.
Not petty, petty's not the word.
You're not going out there in avindictive way, you're just
voicing your opinion and I don'tmind discussion.

Robby (14:46):
I don't mind the-.
Yeah, I almost see it as a.
This is going to help them.

George (14:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's right .
It's almost a level of empathy.

Robby (14:55):
Yeah, but also if I could show you some of I don't know
how to bring them up, but if Icould show you some of the
reviews I've left, like thereare reviews where I've said some
.

George (15:03):
Maybe you're one of these negative people.
Look, Leave those negativecomments.
See, I've only ever noticed itsince we since building a
personal brand, first of all,but also since running ads too,
Like the other day.
I don't know if you've seenthis one yet, but I found it
hilarious.
I don't know if I told youwe're running an ad now for an

(15:24):
event that we're doing, and oneof the comments was literally it
was exactly this this guy looksmore like he should be running
a kebab shop than a constructioncompany.
Yeah, I sent that to you.
Yeah, and I'm like that'shilarious.

Robby (15:39):
First of all, yeah, and also They'd be great kebabs yeah
.

George (15:44):
Let's just point out the obvious.
Let's be honest If I'm fuckinghalf as good at building as I am
making kebabs, I can watch out.

Robby (15:50):
Yeah.

George (15:50):
Have you seen George work the spit Shit?
Something to be watched, butyou know what I mean.
But you know what I mean.
Like that's he's gone on an adfor a construction event.
That's funny.
That has nothing, yeah.
So he's looked at my ethnicity.
He hasn't done, but he.
I find it funny though.
Yeah, but he hasn't done thatin a.
Oh, let me, let's get somelaughs.

Robby (16:08):
Like he's done it in a way there is nothing overly
negative about that.
Like he's just turned aroundand said like you, look like you
should be making kebabs, yeah,but I don't think he meant it in
that way.

George (16:19):
Do you honestly reckon he was doing it as a joke?
Oh, like tongue in cheek?
No, I don't.

Robby (16:24):
I don't get to decide how you say it.

George (16:26):
but people will see that and get real upset Like what,
what the fuck?
Why do I look like I run akebab shop?

Robby (16:32):
I run a multi-.

George (16:33):
I, but he hasn't said it in a positive way.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Like, what's wrong with kebabshops?
Nothing.
But he's looked at me, myethnicity, assumed I'm from that
part of the world and gone.
Okay, you should be running akebab shop, not a construction
company.
Okay, but that was just one.
There was other ones like,whatever it was, over the years.

(16:55):
You get heaps.
I don't trust this guy.
You're a snail oil salesman.
You don't know what the fuckyou're doing.
It looks like you've never beenon a construction site in your
life.
101 things that people say aboutyou.
Now, if I listed them all out,you'd read them.
You're like oh well, shit,maybe I'm not good.
Maybe I should stop running ads.
Maybe I should stop building apersonal brand, because people

(17:17):
are always going to attack me.
Maybe ads, maybe I should stopbuilding a personal brand
because people are always goingto attack me.
Maybe I should stop puttingmyself out there, my ideas out
there, trying to grow a business.
Maybe I should stop all of thatand just stick with what I know
and hang around people I know.

Robby (17:32):
So why don't you, I guess ?
How do you overcome that?
What's the?
It's easy to just say no, Iread them that that's very easy
to say Absolutely it is.

George (17:41):
It comes a lot.
I think it really comes down tothe individual and how secure
you are within your own skin.
Do you know what I mean?
The comments that people aresaying I don't read them and
take them in and go.
This is an accuraterepresentation of me.
I don't look at it and takethat for gospel.
Like, this is a person who I'venever met and who often are

(18:03):
hiding behind a keyboard or ausername smartypants8463.
Do you know what I mean?
And you never real user.
Yeah, look him up.
I saw him on YouTube, but youlook at that and I've even gone
into some of these profiles justout of curiosity sometimes and
I click on them and it's likeone of them that left this
comment a while.
I think it was on TikTok ofsome sort.

(18:24):
I put up a post aboutapprentices need to stop
bitching and moaning about howmuch you're getting paid, and it
had really nothing to do withthe monetary thing.
The message I was giving it wasabout stick through it.
You're going to end up charging$150 an hour by the time you
finish your apprenticeship,because we have a skill shortage
in the industry.
You'll be able to chargewhatever you want.

(18:45):
Anyway, there was this guy whogoes on there and starts like
God, you have this.
You don't know this.
He looks like you've neverworked a day in your life.
You wouldn't know the right endof a hammer, all this sort of
shit.
I clicked on his profile justout of curiosity.
The right end of a hammer, yeah, like, which side do you hit a
hammer with?
Do I hit with this end or thisend?
I don't know?
Okay, anyway, I went on hisprofile and it's just some kid

(19:10):
man.
He was just there.
He was hanging out with hismate.
He had some stupid photo of himtrying to be a gangster or some
shit.
Like I'm like, dude, you'recoming onto my page and leaving
that shit and I'm gonna getupset over this bloke, over this
18, 20 year old, 25 year old,whatever.
However old you are, do youknow what I mean?
So, do you?
Why would I take on theopinions and and views and

(19:32):
beliefs of someone else and getupset over that?
I matter who the other personis.
Look, um, if it was someonelike, let's just say you came on
there but you were beinggenuine and say, oh, you're a
fucking idiot, like I think weneed to stop being friends.
I can't do this podcast withyou anymore.
Yeah, that would upset me to adegree.
So, hey, what have I done?
Like, tell me Right, then Iwould be like engaging?

Robby (19:53):
Yeah, because I value your opinion.
Okay, so take out the personalrelationship.
What's the?
What do you look for if it wasa random comment from someone
you didn't know?
But you go on their profile?

George (20:05):
Person of authority.

Robby (20:06):
Yeah, do you get what I'm saying?
What are you looking for?
That would make you say shit.
I might have to take thiscomment seriously.
Take it seriously Because youjust said this kid and I'm like
why am I going to take thisseriously?
It'd be pretty extreme.
Yeah, he's a celebrity.

George (20:19):
Okay, but I'm saying okay.
So someone seriously, a personof authority in my field or in
the topic that I was talkingabout, potentially I don't know
who is but yeah, yeah,potentially.
But I feel that if they were aperson of authority like that
and had a big, not necessarilycelebrity, but influencer, like

(20:43):
a micro-influencer in that field, known, respected, and they put
something on my page, I don'tnecessarily think they would go
on there in a bad way.
They would go in there viewingtheir opinion and maybe saying
trying to correct me, or say,hey, I think you're wrong here.
I don't believe that someonelike that unless that's how they
get their followings and whatthey do Most of the time
professional type people aren'tgoing to go out there.
Winners don't bring down winners.
Do you know what I mean?

(21:03):
You're only ever going to getcriticized by people doing less
than you.
That's something I always thinkof.
You're only going to getcriticized by people doing less
than you.
I look at that whenever I getthose comments on my page or
pages.
I don't look at them and gookay, this is an opinion of
someone I need to value.
They're not even touching thesides of what I'm trying to

(21:24):
achieve in life.
They're not even in the spaceof where I'm at today, let alone
where I'm going to be in thenext one, two like what I was
trying to get at is.

Robby (21:39):
It sounds like you're just lowering the person on a
scale like, in a sense of likethey don't matter.
Yeah, like in a fuck, you keepwatching from the sidelines.

George (21:54):
Yeah, I think for me that helps Absolutely.
Fuck you, that's a great way tolook at it.
Fuck, you keep watching fromthe sidelines and I can't
remember who.
It helps Absolutely.
Fuck you, that's a great way tolook at it.
Fuck, you Keep watching fromthe sidelines and I can't
remember who it was.
It was someone.
It was one of the famous.
I think it was a soccer player.
It could have been like aRonaldo or someone like that.
And they're like how do youdeal with all the boos and all
the abuse from the crowd and allthat sort of stuff?

(22:16):
And it's like well, they'vecome to pay money to watch me
play.
They're sitting in thesidelines.
I'm on the field.
So, yeah, I do feel a highlevel of connection to that
personally.
You're sitting on the sidelines.

Robby (22:30):
Yeah, what about?
You know, I heard a comedianactually say this once and I
thought it was very cool, and hegoes.
People who critique, he goes.
You should only be allowed tocritique if you've tried,
Because people who have triedand they've willingly gone and
put something out there won'tcritique as hard.

(22:53):
Oh, without a doubt, like inthe sense of there's a level of
empathy because they know whatit's like to try.
Yeah, and they know what it'slike to try and get shut down.

George (23:00):
Yeah, and comedy would be a massive one for that.
Think about how hard it wouldbe to do stand-up and get up
there.
And you are there for a purposeto try and make people laugh.
You have to talk, and you haveto talk in front of a crowd and
you have to be funny.
And then if you get up thereand you talk and you're not
funny when people are expectingyou to be funny, so there's
already a level of I'm notlaughing at this Before you even

(23:20):
get up there.
Before you even get up there,people are not laughing.
You need to make them laugh.

Robby (23:24):
Yeah.

George (23:25):
And it's like when you get to that level and you do it
and you fall on your face andthen you go.
You're not going to get upthere and boo the next comedy
act that you see.

Robby (23:34):
No, because you're going to be like.
I get it.
Yeah, I've been there and thatis a.
I guess you can relate to theposition a little bit more.

George (23:42):
And this is where, again , if you go and say, click on a
profile and you see that person,they're coming to criticize you
about whatever you're talkingabout.
They've probably got posts oftheir dog, of the footpath, or
maybe no posts.
Posts of the footpath yeah,just stupid photos, I don't know
.
Maybe no posts.
Posts of the full path yeah,just stupid photos, I don't know
.
And they're coming and tryingto tell you about how to run a

(24:09):
business or how to advertise, orwhat their interpretation of
good, bad, ugly, funny is.
And something.
I've said this many times beforeand I instilled it in my kids
and I say it at events it's likeI don't like your blue hair.
If someone says to me I don'tlike your blue hair and I don't
have blue hair, why would thatupset me?
I know it's a truth of minethat I don't have blue hair.
So when someone says somethingthat's untrue, why am I going to

(24:30):
be upset over that?
Now, if someone comes in andsays, hey, you're ugly, your
beard is patchy and and yeah,okay, cool, it's got a bit of
white here and ugly, maybe I amugly to you, but I'm not ugly to
other people, I don't think I'm.
I know I'm not ugly.
So why would I let somethinglike that upset me?
It really comes down to yourwhat's the word, not your

(24:54):
self-awareness, but just havingthat level of consciousness to
go.
I know I'm not this thing thatyou're saying I am, so I'm not
going to let that upset me.

Robby (25:04):
Yeah, it's also, I think it's.
It becomes like it makes youquestion that thing.
Yeah, it could, it could.
Because it's like, hey, you'redumb.
And then, if you hear that overand over, you'd be like anyway.

George (25:15):
Well, without a doubt, think about how you could
influence a child from a youngage if you just called them dumb
every fucking day of their life.
Hey, dummy, imagine you do thatto your own kid.
You walk in, you're dumb, don'ttalk to me, you're dumb.
That kid's going to grow up andhe's going to think he's dumb,
of course.
Do you know what I mean?
So, yeah, if you buy into itand you listen to the noise, yes
, I once put a post up and I wasexplaining something in

(25:37):
construction and I had anotherdirector of another building
company who was much bigger thanme, like a decent organization,
send me a DM.
No, it was a DM.
He didn't put it in thecomments, but he sent me a DM
and corrected me.
He goes actually it's calledthis, not that.
And I'm like yeah, cool man,tomato, tomato.
Like, did you get the video?
Would people understand whatI'm like?
Yeah, cool man, tomato, tomato.
Like, did you get the video?

(25:58):
Would people understand whatI'm talking about?
Like, yes, then shut the fuckup.
But he didn't do it in a way tosort of help me, because I know
him.
He wasn't doing it in a waysaying oh, just, hey, dude, just
letting you know.
This is what it's called.
It's like no, it was almost away to pump his own chest up and
say I'm smarter than you and itdoesn't create any content.

(26:19):
Dm'd you.
Dm'd yes, not publicly.
Yeah, yeah, he sent it as a DM,so people can sometimes bring
it down in that way too.
Again, going through that, Ithink he did it responded to a
story, I think that's where itwas, so it wasn't a specific.
I'm going to go into the chatarea, but yeah, so I often look

(26:43):
at that as well.
I know in my own truth I havemy my own self-esteem about
myself and what I'm about andwhat I do, that that outside
noise I don't listen to it sookay, but I think you know, I
also try and have that level ofif someone's going to have say
something that's not inagreeance to what I'm saying, I
will.
I often respond in a respectfulway.
I say hey, saying.
I often respond in a respectfulway.
I say hey, dude, I appreciateyou having the conversation.

(27:03):
This is why, again, years ago Iput up a post about owner
builder homes and how we shouldget rid of them and all that
sort of stuff.
Then someone's saying he goesno, some people can't afford to
employ a builder and this is theonly option available to them
and they still want to buildtheir home and this and this and
this, and they go through it.
I'm like, hey, I totally getthat.
I appreciate that things areexpensive, but you're not taking

(27:24):
into consideration X, y, z,because this is going to be so
much more expensive for you.
There's a house four doors downfrom where I live.
They've been building it forfour years, owner builder.
Now you take into considerationthe time, loan repayments,
price escalations in that period, the fact that you're renting
probably somewhere else, you'renot in your home, the stress,

(27:50):
the quality is not going to bethere, as if you used a proper
builder, like a whole range ofthings come up.
So do you reckon it's cheaperfor a builder to build?
Oh, if you get the rightbuilder, yes, yeah, absolutely
Cheaper.
Absolutely, you'll get it doneproperly.
People don't understand how muchcompliance there is in
construction.
It's mental and you don't knowwhat you don't know.
How are you to know?
You have to get thiscertificate before you do that
stage, or you have to put thismuch concrete over this area to

(28:14):
do this.
You've got to get this test.
They just don't know it andthey're not supposed to because
they're not in the profession.
Then add the time to that.
Add the fact that all the tradesare going to charge a premium
as soon as they seeowner-builder.
It's not going to be.
My plumber is going to give mea very different price to an
owner-builder person Becausehe's going to say to me if he

(28:35):
submits a price for $100,000 todo the home and I know it's a 40
grand job I'm like oi, what thefuck are you doing?
Fix this and send me yourproper price.
He would never do that in thefirst place, but at least I know
what things cost to build,whereas he's going to go to that
owner builder and say, oh yeah,here's my plumbing price.
It's a hundred grand.
They're not going to know anybetter.
They're like, oh okay, sign itoff.

(28:55):
So this money that you thinkyou're saving, you're actually
not.
You're paying a premium fortrade.
You're probably paying apremium for materials too,
because I get better rates thanwhat you do.
You're going to take longer.
You're probably going to fuckup along the way.
That are going to cost yourtime and money.
Uh, and the fact that we'll getit done in a period of six to
twelve months.
It's going to take you three tofour years or two to four years

(29:16):
.
So overall, yes, I stronglybelieve that it'll be
detrimental to you in the longrun and it'll cost you more
money.
And most people I speak to thathave done owner builder projects
.
Most of them vow they'll neverdo it again.
And also, most of these peopleI'd say 90% have a full-time job

(29:36):
, so they're trying to do what Ido as a profession every single
day, have a full-time job anddo that on the side.
It's never going to work theway they think it is.
They think they're saving money, but in the long run, the
builder's generally not chargingthat much on top of labor and
materials to affect or to bethat detrimental in price A bit

(30:01):
sideways there, but I've spokenabout that topic in the past and
you can see I've got somepassion behind it.
But people don't agree withthat point of view.
They will still now probablylisten to this clip and go no,
you're wrong, you're this,you're this, you're this.
I'm like man, I've got 25 yearsof experience that says
otherwise.
But please tell me, mr Butcher,how you build your house better
than me or another builder.

Robby (30:23):
Yeah.
So when I used to work in realestate, I used to tell people,
if an agent charges you, they'relike, are you going to charge
20 grand to sell this home?
And I'm like, yeah, 20 grand isone question in a negotiation.
Do you know what I mean?
And you can take that gamble.
You might make a mistake andlose a hundred grand because
it's all minute, whereas I saywith building it's kind of

(30:44):
longer, there's no quick.
What are you going to do withthe timber?
Right now?
It doesn't matter.
You know what I mean.
You can work out stuff asyou've got time to think about
it, whereas in real estate it'sall in the moment.
Do you know what I mean?
At an auction, an auction goesfor minutes, yeah, you know.
I mean yeah, um, they used touse that to that and be like man

(31:05):
, it's like, it's a no-brainer,like we do this day in, day out.
You make one mistake.
It costs you 100k.
Yeah, pay the 20, move on, makesure that you've got someone
that has been in the space.
Yeah, without a doubt.

George (31:16):
Um, so I can kind of relate, but um, yeah, I don't
know so what would you do if youget these negative comments and
someone attacking you, not just?

Robby (31:27):
me.
I was, let's say, in a personalway, let's just go.
I went and dished every single.
I went and dished every singleperson but that's even funnier.

George (31:34):
That's right back.
Some of the stuff, though, isfunny, like oh yeah, some people
be like there.

Robby (31:38):
Yeah, exactly, and you're like they're giving it to us.

George (31:39):
This is the worst blah, blah.

Robby (31:41):
It's like no, subscribe.

George (31:42):
Yeah, like you should subscribe.
You need this podcast.
Yeah, you need it more than youthink, but I'm talking.
Let's just say, someone attacksyou personally, like I did
today, started this podcast.
You're horrible at what you do.
Don't like your face, oh no,don't like your car, it's um bad
color choice, but why?
Why do you?
What would you do when someonesays something like that to you,

(32:03):
like, how do you?
How is it water off a duck'sback for you, or isn't it?
Do you take it to heart?

Robby (32:12):
um, look when.
So okay.
So, going back to that sameexample, when the first few
comments came in, I laughed.
And then, when they startedpouring, like there's, there's
100 comments on that video, yeah, um.
And when they started pouringin, I thought like have we done
something wrong here?
Like do you know what I mean?
and I had to re-watch theepisode because I I never
listened back to what we talkabout yeah so I put it on and I

(32:36):
watched like 10 minutes of itand I saw what we were talking
and I'm like everyone here'staking this completely out of
context.
Yeah, like I'm sitting therescreaming at the camera saying
vote one for george.
He's gonna run to think plasticstraws are coming back.
Yeah, like that was theconversation we're seriously,
yeah, having a having a and thenand there were some serious
moments too, but majority of it-.

(32:58):
What was the most serious thing?
We bagged the party for theirparty.

George (33:01):
That they no, I think the most serious thing was when
we said our opinions arereflective of us but also a lot
of people.
I speak to a lot of people likeoh, who are you going to vote
for?
I'm like, vote, I'm going to goin and just do a donkey vote,
so I don't get my fine in themail, just cross my name off.
I know people who did that.
So how is that different towhat we were talking about?

(33:22):
They just don't care enough tovote for anyone, or they think
that they were really bad, bothparties, that they couldn't get
involved in it.

Robby (33:29):
The question I I guess pose with that is what changed
from that conversation.
Now you know that's happened toeveryone's mind, whatever.
But what did you do?
What are you doing differentnow?
Or what did you intend to dodifferent if the other party won
?
It's like you gotta do the sameshit anyway.
You can have the same coffee,same breakfast, same work, same
everything, like that's my.
Anyway, I'm taking it.

(33:57):
Going back to the comments,comments thing um, when it
flattered in through volume, Ikind of looked back at it just
to see like have we don't know,have we overstepped the boundary
here?
Like what's the?
We actually look stupid.

George (34:04):
And then when I launched the thing, like and I watched a
bit of it, I'm like people aretripping um, we had similar
response when we did an episodeon welcome to country, and this
is, before it's sort of recent.

Robby (34:13):
Yeah, but that was.

George (34:14):
People were more, they were in support of what we were
saying the majority of peoplebut there were still a few
negative comments there likeeducate yourselves.
You guys don't know what you'retalking about.
You know this, this, this.
There was definitely thingsthere.
I find whenever you talk aboutmore controversial, type topics
or, you know, political religion.
We weren't even saying you needto vote for the Sparks.

(34:34):
No, that's right, we were justhaving the conversation, but I'm
finding, generally speaking,things that spark conversation
are those types of topics.
Okay, let's look at the otherend of the spectrum.
How do you feel when you getpositive comments?
Is it yes, I'm doing it right?

(34:55):
Do you feel good?
Do you get sucked into it Likethe likes?
Your, your emotional stateshouldn't follow that of the
likes and follows and commentson your social media?

Robby (35:04):
It doesn't.
I'm talking to the people, yeah, but I think no one doesn't
like getting positive.

George (35:12):
Yeah, that's right, Absolutely.
And as much as I would see themand go, yeah, it's good to see
those positive comments comethrough, but in the same token
as well, you shouldn't let thatfeed you to do more content or
or to feel good about yourself.

Robby (35:28):
Yeah, cause I think that opens you up for the opposite
Exactly right.

George (35:33):
So as much as you hear, don't you blocking out the noise
, the hate, you probably need toblock out the praise to a
degree as well.
So, yeah, great Again, youropinion of me, based off what
you've heard and what you'veseen.
I'm glad you liked it,appreciate it, but it's not
going to affect my mood movingforward.

Robby (35:53):
Yeah, and that's easier said than done, but it's uh,
easier said than done, yeah, butit's, it's definitely the right
way to handle it.
Uh, I actually remember ChrisJudd talking about that a long
time ago, talking about when hewas playing footy, and they're
like you know, you hear allthese people saying stuff about
you and you when he was 21, 22,.
They're like what did you think?
And 1, 22.
They're like what did you think?

(36:13):
He's like I used to completelyblock out the media.
He's like cause, if I let thegood get me up, that bad's going
to get me down.
Yeah, he used to completelyblock out the media.
I wouldn't hear any of it.

George (36:21):
Yeah.

Robby (36:21):
Yeah, A 100% yeah.
And most people say, mostpeople say don't look at the
comments.

George (36:26):
Yeah, but I get sucked in.
Once you have millions offollowers, I think it's going to
get to that level where youdon't even bother.
He's like.

Robby (36:36):
I'm going to read the comments.
Let him talk, you know what Imean that's the thing.

George (36:41):
You're going to get to that level like someone think
about that, like someone like aJoe Rogan, someone like a Jordan
Peterson or whoever it is,grant Cardone like there's
people that love them, there'speople that hate them, hate them
, hate them, and it's likeyou're going to listen to both
sides.
You're going to be oh, happy,happy, sad, sad, sad, sad, happy
, happy, happy, happy, sad, sad,sad.
That's an emotionalrollercoaster.

(37:02):
It is, it is, and that's whyyou're going to have that
disconnect from what you'redoing on your platforms compared
to what and who you are in reallife, and only take I guess
only take the comments or thefeedback from trusted sources.

Robby (37:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, that's right Turn to
people that you know, and youshould have a variant Like don't
just listen to people that aregoing to tell you what you want
to hear, which most of thepeople that generally care about
you will, which I disagree with.
But I just remembered somethingthat I'm going to share with
you right now as well.
I don't know if you read it,but I think you do need to have

(37:40):
some level of disconnect fromthe outcome, and it's like it's
all like focus on the process,not the.
You know.
Go to the gym, not with theweight, just go to the gym, go
do the workout.
Stop focusing on the weight, godo the workout.
This is the exact same thing.
Go do the workout.
This is the exact same thing.
Put out the content, or put outthe thing, or whatever it is
like.
Build the brand, do the work.
Don't worry about what peopleare saying as much.

(38:02):
But to some degree, I alsothink there is a.
It's good, like you want.
You want to have someone readit, but not you Do you know what
I mean?
I think it's good to havesomeone look over it, because
that's feedback.

George (38:19):
Yeah, exactly right, exactly right.

Robby (38:22):
Yeah, I mean, and now I'm like cool, like if we want to
rattle some cages, I'm going totell people who to vote for.
Yeah, I mean, um, we worked outthat, okay, cool, that's a very
sensitive topic.
There was obviously more peoplethat cared about it than we
thought.

George (38:36):
Yeah, again, we didn't really care about politics,
still don't care about it,exactly yeah.
So, as you said, you're gettingthat aspect of it and it's yeah
, you're getting thatperspective from those people.
When would you forget socialmedia, for example?

(38:56):
What if it's people speaking toyou directly Like I don't like
you, yeah.
Or maybe saying, like um couldbe in an email, but um text
messages yeah, you could get ina, a text message from someone
that could also affect your mood.
You could get um yeah, but evenface to face, by saying you're

(39:22):
wrong, you're this, you're this,you're whatever it might be,
could even be from stage.
You know, we, we speak onstages quite a bit.
I'm yet to come across someonethat's negative whilst on stage,
but I'm sure it'll happen oneday.
And how I combat that?
Like what sort of example?
Oh, I don't know, maybe, yeah,exactly.

(39:42):
Like this is a joke, you're acrook, whatever it might be, I
don't know, who knows.

Robby (39:49):
I don't reckon that would happen.
You don't think so.
I mean like they're going tosit there and try and heckle me
from the ground.
Yeah, I know what are you doinghere.
Most people are there.
Why are you still?

George (40:00):
sitting here.

Robby (40:00):
Yeah, that's right, yeah, you can.
Just most people are goingthere exactly and you can be
like all you're doing is ruiningeveryone else's experience.
Yeah, and then you could like,if you turn to the ground and be
like who's learned something,puts their hand up and you just
look at him and you're like youshould leave.

George (40:13):
Yeah.

Robby (40:13):
Like you know what I mean ?
Security, security, get thisguy out, get this guy out.
I'll come and sit down, grabhim and say let's get out of
here, man yeah exactly, exactly.

George (40:26):
I think that would be very.

Robby (40:26):
yeah, I think you're right, I don't think that's ever
going to happen, for thosesorts not come in there to
heckle or to do anything, and ifthey didn't like something,
most people would just get upand leave.
There hasn't been any realdouchebags, like sometimes
there's a person in the crowdthat's a smartass.

George (40:42):
Yeah, but even just challenging again like you've
had it more so than what I have.

Robby (40:46):
That's because people hate marketing.

George (40:53):
Yeah, they'll say, oh, but I've spent 500 bucks on ads
this month and it didn't work.
Yeah, you know, and it's likewell cool, do you put this much?
Put this much sugar in yourcoffee and you're expecting it
to be sweet Facebook ads.

Robby (41:01):
Yeah, you spent $500.
That'd be cool, I want one ofthose.

George (41:04):
Yeah, can you get me one ?
I've spent enough money with it.
Only if you my screen On thewall.
But yeah, I don't know.

Robby (41:21):
How else do you get it in person Like negative?
It's all feedback at the end ofthe day, that's how I like to
look at it and, yes, sometimesthings are going to upset you.

George (41:29):
Yeah, that's okay, that's okay.

Robby (41:31):
I heard this thing.
I was listening to a podcastthe other day and Alex Hormozy
and he talked about he goes.
You're going to have days wheresome days are good and some
days are bad.
I thought this was a greatframework for laying out you may
have heard this and I thoughtit was a great framework for
laying out days.
And he goes.
There's 365 days in a year.
Yeah, some are going to be goodand some are going to be bad.

(41:54):
Do you agree?
Absolutely, yeah, he's like.
So.
If you were to lay him out liketop to bottom, like in
chronological order from best toworst, he goes.
You're going to have somebottom 10% days, he goes.
Do you think you're going toenjoy your bottom Like?
You expect to enjoy your bottom10% days from the year?
Like your worst 10%?
Do you expect to enjoy them?
No?

George (42:14):
Okay.

Robby (42:15):
He goes.
10% of the year is 36 days hegoes.
That's three days a month.
That's almost one a week.
He goes sometimes if you'rehaving a shit day and something
goes wrong, he goes.
It's just a bottom 10% day.
The upside is you're going tohave a top 10% day three times a
month as well.
He goes.

(42:36):
It can be 36 of those a year aswell.
So anytime shit's going wrong,something happens, like you know
, when someone tries to hit you.
Okay, you get a shit comment,you're having a bad day.
You just don't feel right.
It's just a bottom 10 day.
You don't have to changeanything, just keep moving
forward.
You probably feel bettertomorrow, yeah, and I was like
what a, what a framework, likewhat a perspective.

George (42:53):
I don't think he's human yeah, it is, it's great, a
great way to look at it.
Yeah, it was just like, and youknow, relatively young to have
that level of consciousness andexperience.
Do you know what I mean?

Robby (43:07):
Yeah, I think he's done a lot for his age yeah.

George (43:10):
Yeah, he gives some solid advice, some real solid
advice.

Robby (43:13):
He gives great advice.
You know what I mean.
Some of the stuff he says.
You just look at him and you'relike.
You're like a 70-year-old in a35-year-old plane.
Yeah, yeah, Like this guy'slived.
You know what I mean.
He's got a lot of experiencefor someone his age.
Yeah, absolutely he does.

George (43:28):
Yeah, very good.
Do you know what would reallyupset me though?
Someone left a bad comment onthis video no, no, that wouldn't
upset me.
Where I would get really upsetand be devastated, like to the
point where I might cry mightcry on camera is if people watch
this whole episode and didn'tsubscribe or listen to it.

(43:48):
That's probably what wouldreally upset me.
If you want to see me cry onthe podcast, just do that.
Do that.

Robby (43:55):
I feel like you're enticing people to not subscribe
.
But if you want to see me happy, if you want to see me, cry
with happiness, tears of joy,subscribe.

George (44:06):
Top right hand corner.
Press the red button.
Just do some magical shitsubscribe and listen, and that
way we can give you all thegreat things, all the great
comments, all the greatconversations that we have over
the years and weeks, and youwon't miss a thing because
you'll be subscribed and you'llknow when we drop a new episode,
which is every Monday.
Every Monday we drop them.
Now it's been that for a while.

Robby (44:28):
Haven't missed the beat yet had a few people messaging
me and they're like didn't youchange days?
How funny Months ago.
Yeah.

George (44:39):
That's that.
That is that.
So I would still encourageeveryone to be building a
personal brand.
If you're in business, even ifyou're not you never know where
things can take you.
You could just be expressingyour joy for peanut butter and
become the face of peanut butterworldwide.
Who knows?

Robby (45:01):
Who knows why, wouldn't you?
Hey, I want to wrap up withthis.
I want to share something thatI shared with you.
I don't know if you read it ornot.

George (45:09):
Oh, was that that in black?
Yeah, that one.

Robby (45:12):
Yeah, did you read?

George (45:13):
it.
Yeah, I did.
I read the whole thing and Iwas going to respond back to you
so you could laugh.
I forgot to.
I had to zoom in To read it.
To read it I was going tobecause I can't see shit.
So I was going to be like fuckthis guy sends me microscopic
text and I actually zoomed inand read the whole thing.
Three pages.

Robby (45:32):
Anyway, shout out to Dan Martell, who shared this.
So if you don't follow DanMartell, you should, I do now.
He's a really cool dude.
Wrote a book called Buy Backyour Time.

George (45:41):
Yes, I have heard that book, great book.
Yeah, you've read it.
No, I heard of it.
I haven't read it.
I'll get it.

Robby (45:47):
Yeah, was it?
Yeah, mike away and I sharedhim and he's like ah, anyway,
really really good book.
Um, super practical, just tools, no fluff.
No, I'm gonna hype you up likejust, this is how you create
playbooks, this is how youmanage your time, this is how
you do, this is how you do thatgreat book.
Yeah, highly recommend um.
And he shared a post.

(46:09):
When was this?
A couple days ago, so by thetime you hear this, it'll be
maybe four or five days ago, andhe sent an email from the CEO
of Fiverr.
So Fiverr is a online platform.
Most people have used Fiverrbefore you reckon.

George (46:26):
I think so A lot of people have Just go on there.
It's the concept you just payfive bucks and you get this
thing done for you.

Robby (46:32):
Yeah, it's basically a freelance platform that you can
go and find people to do.
You know, graphics, design,particular things for you, logos
yeah, anything online.
And the Fiverr CEO sent thisemail and I'm going to read it
to you because I think itmatters and I think the timing
of this is, even though what wespoke about is nothing related

(46:53):
to this.
I just think I want to sharethis with everyone because I
think it really matters and Ithink, if this gets through to
one person yeah, it'll be worthit.

George (46:59):
It'll be worth it.
It's opened my eyes up, likelast week when we had-.
This is what I was saying toyou Last week, man, last week,
when you mentioned this shit tome.
I've been thinking about italmost daily Most daily.

Robby (47:11):
All right, so his name is Mika Kaufman.
Kaufman, some European dude.
Anyway, ceo of Fiverr, and hesends this email to his whole
team and he says hey, team.
I've always believed in radicalcandor, which is feedback Right
, and this is what reminded meof it when we're talking about
feedback and despise those whosugarcoat reality to avoid

(47:32):
stating the unpleasant truth.
The very basis of radicalcandor is care.
You care enough about yourfriends or your colleagues to
tell them the truth, because youwant them to be able to
understand it, grow and succeed.
So here's the unpleasant truthAI is coming for your jobs.
Heck, it's coming for my jobtoo.
This is a wake-up call.
It does not matter if you're aprogrammer, designer, product

(47:54):
manager, data scientist, lawyer,customer support rep,
salesperson or finance person.
Ai is coming for you.
You must understand that whatwas once considered easy tasks
will no longer exist.
What was once considered hardtasks will be the new easy and
what was once consideredimpossible will be the new hard.
If you do not become anexceptional talent at what you
do, a master, you will face theneed for a career change in a

(48:16):
matter of months.
This is now he's talking about.
I'm not trying to scare you.
I'm not talking about your jobat Fiverr.
I'm talking about your abilityto stay in a profession.
Are we all doomed?
Not all of us, but those whowill not wake up and understand
the new reality fast are,unfortunately, doomed.
So what can we do?
First of all, take a moment andlet this sink in.

(48:37):
Drink a glass of water.
Scream hard in front of amirror, if it helps you.
Now relax.
Panic hasn't solved problemsfor anyone.
Let's talk about what wouldhelp you become an exceptional
talent in your field.
One study Become a master of thelatest AI solutions in your
field.
Try multiple solutions andfigure out what gives you
superpowers.
By superpowers, I mean theability to generate more

(48:58):
outcomes per unit of time withbetter quality delivery,
programmers, code, customersupport, tickets, lawyers,
contracts, et cetera.
Find the most knowledgeablepeople on your team who can help
you become more familiar withthe latest and greatest in AI.
Time is the most valuable assetwe have.
If you're working like it's2024, you're doing it wrong.
You're expected and needed todo more, faster and more

(49:19):
efficiently right now.
Become a prompt engineer.
Google is dead.
Llm and Gen AI are the newbasics and if you're not using
them as experts, your value willdecrease before you know it.
Get involved in making theorganization more efficient
using AI tools and technologies.
Very true meeting Instead.

(49:56):
Pitch your ideas proactively.
Stop waiting for the world oryour place of work to hand you
opportunities to learn and grow.
Create these opportunitiesyourself.
I vow to help anyone who wantsto help themselves.
If you don't like what I wrote,if you think I'm full of shit or
just an asshole who's trying toscare you, be my guest and
disregard this message.
I love all of you and I wishyou nothing but good things, but
I honestly don't think that apromising, that promising a
professional sorry, I honestlydon't think that a promising

(50:19):
professional future awaits youif you disregard reality.
If, on the other hand, youunderstand deep inside, I'm on,
I'm right and want all of us tobe on the winning side of
history.
Join me in a conversation aboutwhere we go from here, as a
company, as and as individualprofessionals.
We have a magnificent companyand a bright future ahead of us.
We just need to wake up andunderstand that it won't be
pretty or easy.
It will be hard and demanding,but it'll be well damn worth it.

(50:43):
This message is food for thought.
I've asked Charlie to free uptime on my calendar in the next
few weeks To those of you whowish to sit with me and discuss
your future, we can do so.
I look forward to sitting withyou.
Yeah, pretty cool Dude.
I read that and I was like thisis.
And I've been pushing this nowmore than ever with everyone and
I'm like, hey, this is now like.

(51:05):
This is not.
You know the whole thing about.
We don't know how we're goingto get disrupted.
Yeah, now we know.
Yeah, now we know.
We can see it like it's there.

George (51:14):
It's now.
Yeah, we touched on this lastepisode.
I think we've got a deep diveon it.
Definitely We'll do the nextepisode about this.
Yeah, I really, I really reckonthat's a great lead into the
next episode for sure.
So be sure to tune in, guys,because it's going to be a sick
conversation and Robbie's a lotmore educated in this space than
what I am.
However, I am looking at it moreoften now and educating myself

(51:35):
and doing it at nighttime andwatching YouTube and a whole
range of things to get to thatlevel where I go.
Okay, that one of my favoriteline there was it's like what?
Like we're not.
You should look within beforeyou go out to hire people.
What you can be doing betterand more efficient now, because
the tools are there andresources are there for you to
do so.
Yeah, and that's a massivething.

Robby (51:54):
And I think everyone else should start to take this
seriously.
I think people are sleeping.
I put up a story the other daysaying who's using AI agents in
their business, and almost noone is.
And there was people that said,like what the fuck's an AI
agent?

George (52:07):
Yeah, oh man, honestly hand up.

Robby (52:10):
I didn't know last week.
That's okay not to know.
It's not okay to keep notknowing.
You know what I mean.
You need to.
If you knew what social mediawas going to be 20 years ago,
what would you do different?
Exactly this is that, butbigger.

George (52:29):
Awesome Guys.
Thank you so much for listening, appreciate you, as always, and
spending your time with usmorning, day or night.
One thing I do want to leaveyou with is just be positive.
Be positive, be happy, sharelove.
Go out there and put somepositive vibes on people's
content that are giving it acrack and having a go.
And if you are that negativeperson, look within.

(52:51):
Do you need to be?

Robby (52:53):
And this whole episode was recorded with ai.
All right, thanks everybody.

George (53:00):
Peace out guys, thank you that was a good episode and
need to go for another piss.