April 20, 2025 • 45 mins
Political apathy runs deep in Australia, but why? This no-holds-barred conversation dives into the heart of civic disengagement, exploring why so many Australians feel their votes and political participation make absolutely no difference to their daily lives.
"I don't feel like your vote will make a difference," one host confesses, having never registered or voted. "I'm watching from afar and facing the other way." This raw admission opens a fascinating exploration of Australia's unique relationship with politics – a country where citizens follow rules diligently yet feel fundamentally disconnected from their democratic process.
The hosts contrast Australia's political landscape with America's, noting how they've watched US elections with intense interest despite having no stake in the outcome. Meanwhile, many couldn't name their own Prime Minister or explain basic policies affecting their businesses and lives. This paradox reveals how politics has transformed from civic responsibility into entertainment, with personality and spectacle overshadowing substance.
Most striking is the discussion of what might actually drive Australia's political awakening. While extreme measures like conscription might bring people to the streets, the everyday exploitation – outdated taxes originally implemented to fund long-concluded wars, toll roads paid off seventeen times over, unnecessary regulations stifling business growth – continues unchallenged. "People forget the government works for us," they observe. "I feel in this country, it's the other way around."
The conversation concludes with a compelling thought experiment: what if someone who actually cared about practical solutions took charge? What if leadership meant identifying "what's fucking stupid" and simply eliminating it? Subscribe now to join this refreshingly honest conversation about democracy's future in a nation where following the rules has become more important than questioning them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Knowing you well and knowing how passionate you are
about this country and thefuture that it's heading in,
please tell me in depth yourpolitical views.
That's a great question.
I think he's doing good stuff.
He's actually getting in thereand getting shit done, as
opposed to everyone else that'sso scared to lose votes.
He doesn't give a fuck.
We've got someone that knowswhat they're doing Outside of
(00:20):
looking in.
I think he's great.
The other thing I also noticedas well is people in australia
probably victoria more so.
They'd love to be told what todo australia needs to break free
from the corrupt.
If enough people stood up for acertain cause or position, I
think they have influence.
(00:44):
Knowing you well and knowinghow passionate you are about
this country and the future thatit's heading in, please tell me
in depth your political views.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's a great question .
Speaker 1 (00:59):
As a US citizen.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I'm all for Trump.
Pledged Red all the way.
I think we've got to get rid ofthese Mexicans, Dude.
Let me tell you, in the US, thepolitical landscape is very
divided.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
See, most people we spoke to when I asked they're
like hey, what do you reckonabout Trump?
Most people weren't that I hatethat guy or I love that guy,
even though I'm sure there is alot of them.
But most of the people I spoketo Get in a Mexican Uber.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Get in a Mexican Uber .
Yeah, I'm serious, when you'rein San Diego, they're like man.
That guy's got no idea whathe's doing.
He's deporting people, he'ssending families, splitting
families up, blah, blah, blah.
And there's people that hatedhim.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And there was people that were like, finally, yeah,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We got someone that knows what they're doing Outside
of looking in.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think he's great, I think he's doing MAGA.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, 100%.
Maga, yeah 100%.
I would have voted for him if Iwas there, for sure, and I said
that to people too.
I said, looking at what he'sdoing, I think he's great, I
think he's doing good stuff.
He's actually getting in thereand getting shit done, as
opposed to everyone else that'sso scared to lose votes.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Don't vote for me, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Plastic straws are fucking sick dude oh man,
plastic straws are so good.
You know what that was myfavorite thing about?
Without a doubt, the plasticstraws.
You know, when you now go we'reliving in the past Get a paper
straw.
You're just like what is thisabsurdity?
I refuse to use it.
What are we bums?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I refuse to use it.
Yeah, I'm serious.
I don't use straws anymore.
I pull the lid off and justdrink it without.
Oh, it's the worst dude.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So bad and it's like why can't we do that?
Yeah, why can't whoever's thepresident, the dictator of power
at time?
To go back to your question, Ido not.
I don't know.
You don't know what was thequestion what's your political
(02:59):
views?
I don't know how to answer that.
Do you care?
No, do you care no?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Do you?
Yeah, but I don't care enoughto go to a rally.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't vote.
What do you do?
I'm never registered.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Call the cops, call them, call the LAPD.
Tell them, yeah, tell themSeriously, I've never registered
, I've never voted, not once,and I don't care because I don't
feel like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't feel like your vote will make a difference
.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, just don't.
I feel like they're.
All my life has not changed, nomatter who got in power.
I can change this for me.
Yeah, I mean, it's all the sameway.
Yeah, you know what I mean and Idon't care and it doesn't
interest me and I don't followyou on Instagram and I consume
(03:49):
no television or radio, so I getzero information from it.
I don't know who the primeminister is.
I don't know what his firstname is Joshua, shut up.
What's his first name?
Anthony Anthony Albanese.
Yeah, I knew that part.
Yeah, because it sounds likeLebanese.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It does.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the only way to remember things.
Yeah, it's like.
What country does it sound like?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, cool.
Yeah, nothing's easy withAlbanese, or it's all easy with
Albanese?
Yeah, Depending on yourpolitical view.
So do you think that's aproblem?
Do you think if everyonethought your way, that would be
good for this country?
Because we're coming, we'reinto the election campaign now.
Oh, is it.
Yeah, there's bloody presidentskissing babies and everything.
(04:39):
Isn't that that's?
That's the dumbest shit I'veever heard of.
If I was in, sorry when I'mpremier and then eventually
prime minister, as we are allgoing to go for and you're all
going to vote for me, you knowit.
Everyone on this podcast will.
That is subscribed.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's like a Premier's , like right hand guy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's that called?
Two I see how did I Like the.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, is there a?
Thing?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The deputy.
Is that what it is?
I don't know.
I'm gonna be the deputy.
The deputy, it's gonna be sickand you're gonna be my only
option we'll get our own versionof doge here.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so yeah, do you think that's a bad thing?
Oh, sorry.
So when I'm prime minister anddictator and all that sort of
shit and I'm running the countrydoing my thing, I don't know
what's going on with that.
Now you distracted me withyour-.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You were saying that I felt like I was telling you
about kissing babies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh yeah, it's like the very first thing.
I would never.
I would never, ever be that guythat holds babies and like
don't touch.
Hey, I've got my own kids.
You touch your own kid, mate,don't worry about it, I don't
need to hold your baby I don'tneed to take a photo with it.
I'd be very straight down theline.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'd be.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Trump-esque.
No, relax, I'm not going toboot it out the window.
I'd be very Trump-esque as faras my approach to things Because
, again, I think it's justpractical just not giving a shit
.
I think it'll upset, but I alsothink it'll resonate with a lot
of people too.
Polarization set, but I alsothink it will resonate with a
(06:08):
lot of people too.
Yeah, I think polarization isyeah and I think that's exactly
right, and you see that now withsome of the politics that are
coming up and what they're doing.
But ultimately, I feel that inthis country there is you got
your two parties, labor andLiberal, and you're just picking
the bad of a, the best of a badbunch.
That's where I feel like it'sat in this country, and it's a
shame because we deserve better.
The other thing I also noticedas well is people in Australia
probably Victoria more so.
(06:29):
They'd love to be told what todo.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, we're a rule-following people.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Australia needs to break free from the Commonwealth
yeah, maybe that's what itcould be, I mean and create its
own independence, just like theUS did, would you?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
get more.
Would you show more interest inpolitics then?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Why?
I just I don't know what ifthere was a Trump version here
and you like, love the bloke?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, it's weird, though I was so into the US
election.
Yes, you said that, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So that's not even your country.
Was that more entertainment,though, for you?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh, probably yeah that's right, I was watching
Trump interviews.
I was watching them, dude.
I watched trump on joe rogan.
I watched him on the flagmanpodcast.
I watched him on theo von'spodcast.
Yeah, it's a serious investmentof ours, huge, huge, like I was
watching it all.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So why don't you let it up?
Why don't you have that levelof interest in your own country,
where?
You could get things they areyeah and it's a shame, because
that's what we need in thiscountry.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We don't really have independence.
No, like you've gotindependence within these lines
yes, If you fuck around and stepout these lines.
We're going to press againstyou Everything like from the ATO
to from taxes and the rules youhave to follow and the things
you have to do and blah, blah,blah, and it's like I've never
been, like a conspiracy theoristand so I don't want to give
(07:49):
them my.
You know, I'm like dude, likeI'm just a pleb, I'm just
another number to them at theend of the day, like if I do or
don't, their life doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah Well, I like, though the one thing I really
like and resonate with what yousaid earlier, is regardless of
your power, I don't give a fucklike I'm gonna get done what I
need to do, whoever was in power, doesn't affect me.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
like it is what it is , I'm just gonna roll with the
punches who I don't know andthis might be valid for someone
who's like a multi-millionaire,billionaire or something, but
whose life changed from the lastelection look it, what it would
do is certain policies mayaffect you, from a tax
perspective, for sure, and howyou operate in business and all
(08:31):
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So for me, let's say, being in construction, that
whenever the Labor government isin, the unions tend to have a
bit more power during that timeand whatnot, whereas when the
Liberals are in, they sort ofput them on a leash a little bit
more.
So, arguably, it would help mein my industry more so.
(08:52):
So you could say stuff likethat, but I'm in residential
construction too.
That doesn't affect me too muchanyway.
Has your job changed?
As in what I do day to day, no.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Has anything changed at all?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Not at all.
In the sense, all that might'vechanged is the in-goings and
out-goings.
Yeah, but that changes all thetime.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know Someone can wake up in a different mood and
then you might get a differentresponse because of how they
woke up, because of how theyslept, because of what they ate
the night before.
Yeah, no one cares about that.
I just don't see and this couldbe my ignorance- it might be a
level of it, yeah, but I justdon't see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Because if everyone thought that way, hey, if
everyone thought that way andthis is probably why, because I
honestly think a lot of peoplefeel like you do we should put a
vote up.
It'd be interesting to see.
It'd be interesting to see.
I wanted to put a poll up.
Maybe I'll put it up tonight.
To put a poll up.
Maybe I'll put it up tonight.
Do you actually care about thecurrent political landscape?
(09:48):
Do you care who wins, who getsinto power, yes or no?
It'd be interesting to see.
I mean, I've been a Liberalvoter for the longest time,
purely because of the union.
That did influence me earlydays when I was working on big
tier one construction sites.
Yes, it did influence me backthen, but even more so as a
business owner.
I feel that their policies tendto favor more small businesses
(10:12):
as opposed to labor, tends tofavor the masses and the
everyday Australian working andwhatnot, and puts more pressure
on us.
I tend to go that way, but Istill feel that they're fucking
shit.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm picking the best of a badbunch.
I don't feel compelled to goand I've never gone to a
(10:34):
political rally.
Peter Dutton is the leader ofthe Liberal Party.
We've got Albanese on the otherside.
I'm not going to go to seePeter Dutton at fucking Port
Phillip Town Hall.
Kiss a baby.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that where they do it?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't know, man, I'm sure they'll bring a baby
there and wave my blue flag andsay, yeah, go, pete, you're the
man.
Are you a blue guy?
Blue guy, here we're blue.
Who's blue, who's we?
The right is blue here.
What's Trump?
Trump's right, isn't he?
Right wing, yeah.
So here we're blue.
The right wing is blue, yeah,the conservatives, whatever that
(11:10):
is.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like the people who are more reserved, who are like
God is good and men should havewives and yes, yeah, yes, that
way more inclined, yeah, so, butwhy wouldn't I?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
This should affect me , it should be important enough
for me to do that, but does it?
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's why you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, exactly Exactly , but it should, if you're
looking at democracy.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Are they really in control?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Who these people?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They could be bought out by all these Like this is
all the other things you see.
Now, are they just owned by allthe multi-trillion dollar
companies that fund all theircampaigns and say, hey, we're
going to come in here and mineall this gas and it's not going
to cost us anything?
Yeah, they're like, oh, youcan't do that?
Well, actually we can, becausehere's a picture of your son at
school.
I don't know who knows whathappens in that world?
(12:00):
You what happens in that world.
Who knows Trillion dollarcompanies coming in doing
whatever the fuck they want?
Yes, there's all that talk ofwhat's happening with that.
But my point in case isdemocracy.
Here, people forget that thegovernment works for us.
The government should, in anideal world, be there to serve
(12:21):
the people.
I feel that in this countryit's the other way around.
I feel that we serve thegovernment, whoever's in power
at that time.
Yes, sir, thank you, sir COVID,point in case.
Whatever they said, we did.
You hated it, you loved it.
Whatever it was, you did it.
Most of the time, people woulddo it.
They could do something else.
(12:41):
Now, say they come out and say,oh, we're going to slug you
with income tax now on.
Well, we're going to reduceincome tax to $500,000 instead
of a million, so anyone thatpays more than that gets slugged
with a tax.
How do you stop that?
No, I disagree.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You don't.
You say these are the ruleshere, and you pick up your shit
and you move somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
If you don't want to have the rules, that's the other
thing.
Yes, that's right, you can move.
You can move country.
You don't fucking try.
That's right.
You can move country.
You can move state.
You can do those things that isavailable to you.
Yes, unlikely for a lot ofpeople that becomes a problem,
like, honestly, I don't want tomove.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Why.
I'm happy where I am, but thenobviously this is disrupted,
like let's just say what wouldbe okay, what would be the thing
that they would have tointroduce that would make you
say like this is annoying me.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I want to say some bad shit, but I'm not going to.
Okay, so Don't encourage me,I'll go on current affair.
It's the goal.
It's the goal, let's do it.
I'd say anything along thelines of influencing my children
in a way that does please mesignificantly.
I could still have the majorityof the influence, say, if they
(13:58):
made it mandatory educational todo something that I really
disagreed with.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's part of the curriculum.
Now Pull them out of school.
Fuck yeah, we're homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, that's not that much, sorry, you can fix that.
Yeah, that's right, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So that's not.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know man Conscription,I don't know Doing something
stupid that really, reallyaffects me in a negative way.
So your option is this Okay,cool, I'm a first generation
Greek.
I'm now getting my passport.
I'm going to be a Greek citizenfrom this point on.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's what you do Far too.
You go to Greece.
It's all right, come to.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Greece, good life.
I would just become a fisherman, just live off the land.
It's interesting, got plenty offamily over there Can speak the
language.
What?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
a life.
You can also speak English.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What a life.
You can also speak Ling.
I could speak Linglish.
I could speak English and Greekover there.
What a life, Um yeah, that'sinteresting.
I, I'd um, I wouldn't havethought you would have said that
, but where else?
Okay, well, go to the States.
Yeah, go to the States.
You're saying go into anotherEnglish speaking country.
Me personally, that's what Iwould do, but I, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I would, I in all honesty.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I had to move countries, and if I had language
there too?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So that like I'm a fit yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But I and just a side note, speaking of travel around
the world Robbie got stopped atevery airport we went to and it
was the funniest thing and Iwanted to Did every single.
I wanted to take photos, Went tothe ice hockey they pulled him
aside.
They pulled him aside at everymoment.
It was the funniest thing.
It was almost as funny as halfthe shit Scott did Almost,
(15:42):
Almost.
But honestly, you got pulledover everywhere and like I'd see
you, you'd get in strip search.
Like what are you doing in thiscountry?
Like relax.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, got pulled into Homeland Security.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
When was the last time you went to Lebanon?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, what I've never been to Lebanon.
I sat down and interviewed byHomeland Security when I landed
in the US.
That's so good.
They were very nice, very nice,good on them.
But look, hey, hey, if I looklike I'm going to blow shit up
and you're doing your job, welldone, fucking nice, good job.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Wrong guy, but good job.
His jacket was puffy becauseyou put on a few more culottes
Eating some pizza, yeah, andeating some pizza.
It's not anything under thejacket that would be untoward in
America.
God bless that amazing place.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So you know, because you see people in the States
like people love Trump, like nopresident has ever been hated
more than Trump in history.
No president has ever beenloved more than Trump in history
.
What's the source of that?
What's the source?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I heard it somewhere, I don't know where, but I heard
it somewhere and I believe it,though.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
People love him and there's people that fucking hate
him.
Now you almost got assassinated.
Is that true?
Is that not true?
I don't know.
There's probably a button youpress.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, like hey press the button about Trump, like hey
, guys press the button aboutTrump.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, the Trump button, but we don't have that
here.
I mean, you do see people goingto these rallies and waving
their flags.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I've never seen a rally.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I've seen it on the news, like you see it on the
news when they win the election.
It's probably the team and youknow there's probably a lot of
the team, their family members,people like that.
So I don't even know.
I don't even know Australianpeople, sorry, I don't know
anyone that has gone to a rallyever to go see their prime
minister.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Who was the prime minister before this guy?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The one that's here now.
You got.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
See, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It wasn't Turnbull.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You don't care, Maybe it was Turnbull Turnbull.
Yeah, Malcolm Turnbull Wasn'tScoMo oh no, it was ScoMo.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was, it was 100% ScoMo.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm an Australian politician enthusiast.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yes, you are you are.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Scomo was all right.
He used to do his cooks inCOVID.
Oh did he?
How funny Dude.
You know what yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
He seems like a genuine blo.
Come on, no, come on, man, comeon.
Have you met him?
Yeah, I've met him.
Oh, you've met him.
No, never, never.
But I've seen enough.
I've seen enough.
But I'm sure they're actuallyhalf-decent blokes and they're
doing the best they can.
I don't know, are, are they not?
Don't know, don't know, but Idon't see anyone making
(18:19):
significant moves in anything.
Like you know, anthony Albanesehas been in power now for four
years already.
Like, what's he done?
He's done nothing.
Like he's just sat there, andthat's probably his biggest
criticism.
People look at him and say,well, you haven't actually done
anything.
Yeah, you haven't actually doneanything.
At least Trump's gone in.
He's put tariffs in.
He's gotten rid of Well, go buysix draws.
(18:39):
Well, life-changing shit.
Yeah, yeah, it's the real deal.
He's gone in there and donethat stuff.
He's gotten rid of a wholerange of policies.
He's implemented Doge andgotten rid of all this useless
government spending that they'rethat were just throwing money
out the window.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So how much hate has Elon Musk gotten because of that
?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, it's massive, massive.
It's probably not good for hisbusiness and his brand, but also
, I don't think he gives a fuck.
Do you know what I mean?
Like he doesn't give a fuck,give a fuck, couldn't care less.
He's going.
I'm going to go to Mars, I'mgoing to die in Mars.
You guys will be right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah but his brand is so big now, yeah, do you know
what I mean?
Like, unless he loses hismarbles, there will always be
someone to be like.
Hey, man, like you know what Imean, we'll give you a hundred
mil come work for us.
Yeah, that's it do you knowwhat I mean?
Like he would never go broke.
He would never, unless he loseshis marbles, which is possible,
(19:30):
could happen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You never know, maybe he already has strange fella,
maybe to be in that level.
I think, he's a little bitcrazy I think you have to be.
I don't think there's anyonewho's staying a little bit crazy
.
That's where creativity comesfrom, doesn't it?
The crazy side?
The crazy side Doing shit thatno one else will ever dare think
of doing, and it's crazy untilyou pull it off, isn't it?
People once upon a time saidman will fly is pretty crazy,
(19:55):
pull on.
I am amazed still when you getin a plane, this fucking thing
that weighs hundreds of tons,flying through the air.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That ridiculous speed .
It's like a tube in the middleof the air Getting there.
You say does it ever be in theback of your mind when we're
flying just recently, whathappens?
This thing goes down.
Hold on yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The whole time Back of your mind.
It was nice to the plane shakesa little bit.
You go, you'll be right.
Come on, buddy, keep going.
And it was nice to see, likewhen we were back on top of land
.
Yeah, like at least now, if wego down, hopefully we survive.
We blow up.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We blow up and not drown.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So that's good.
Dude getting lost in thePacific Ocean yeah, you're
fucked.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You go yeah, yeah look out the window.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's just fucking waves and dolphins and shit like
that.
That'd be bad.
That's what you're just.
Waves and dolphins like thatsounds very happy.
You look out waves, dolphins inthe way.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well it's good way to fucking beam it.
That's a good way to go um soyeah, uh, but it's a shame, you
know, but I like the aspect ofwell, it is what it is.
I'm just going to roll with thepunches, I'm going to do what
I'm going to do.
I'm control.
Good bad, I'll adapt, make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, but that's not what it is.
What is it For me?
Like that's not, because likethe US thing doesn't impact me
at all.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But I watched it tightly, like very closely.
I watched the election.
I remember you telling me yeah,I watched it.
I was sitting there watchingthe election, had it on my third
screen at my house when I wasworking, because during the day,
yeah, I had it on my thirdscreen.
I was playing the whole timewhile I was doing a whole bunch
of stuff.
I'd mute it between calls.
Yeah, I don't know why I wasinto it, no idea.
(21:37):
Never watched a previous one,ever, ever, ever.
But I always seem to know moreabout what's going on there.
It could be because ofentertainment, or like more
people talk about it.
Possibly, yeah, but I don'tthink it's gonna.
Regardless of who gets in it,it's not going to impact my life
.
Yeah, is that a stupid thought?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I don't know.
I think it's stupid in thesense that if everyone thinks
that way, you'll never get anysignificant change for the best.
You'll just be the people thathave the deepest pockets, that
have the most influence, thatalways get into power and have
their own agenda the whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
There's a small part of me that kind of believes
that's.
I don't think we have influencehere From every aspect.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If enough people stood up for a certain cause or
position, I think they haveinfluence.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You reckon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Australia.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, let's just say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's that, say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
What's that when you're forced to sign up to the
army to go to war Conscription?
Yeah, okay, I think that wouldcause in this country so the
draft.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Draft yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
So Australia's going to gobattle China?
I don't think we'll battleChina.
We like China.
We're going to go battle.
Who don't we like?
Do we not like anyone?
We like everyone.
We're very multicultural.
Here.
I feel like China gets pickedon China.
I like China.
I like China too.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you're watching this from China we're friends,
we've got your back.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, you're welcome on Million Dollar Days Mongolia,
mongolia, mongolia.
Of course, mongolia is our archnemesis.
Yeah, say we go to war withMongolia.
Yeah, and they go.
Oi, such a good country to goto war with, isn't it?
But they say like everyone, wehave to like, we need everyone.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Like in two months, two months.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Two months.
Stop what you're doing.
You've been conscripted.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think there would be uproar.
I don't think people would go.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I don't think people would go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, I don't think we've been.
We haven't been conditionedfrom any age or anything to ever
be forced to serve and go towar.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Here's a gun.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We're gun, we're going to go kill people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm just giving an extreme example of something
that I think people would go.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, and you would run the streets.
If you fast forward 10 yearsand my son's 20 and they
conscript him, I'll kill you.
When you come to the door tocome get my son, it's not
happening.
He's a grown-ass man butyou're're 18.
Or he's 17 and he getsconscripted, or I get
conscripted and I have to leavemy family to go fight a war for
(24:23):
some other political agendayou're not.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You have zero patriotism zero, yeah, yeah yeah
, absolutely yeah, and I thinkmost people in this country we
know we're not a very patriotic.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, oh yes yes, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
They wanted to change Australia Day.
It's like it's the country'sday.
Yeah, like, why would youchange it?
Because people are gettingoffended?
Leave, go away.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, go away, you don't haveto be here.
You're not a tree.
Fuck off Like gay.
We are.
Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, weare.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So you're saying from a, a perspective of pc.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, dude massively.
I hate that.
I personally hate thatmassively.
Uh rule following.
Uh, everyone doesn't like youknow what I mean, dude.
Not much comes out of australialike this is a very safe
country to live in.
Yeah it's also a very countrythat will, I believe, and this
is a very safe country to livein.
Yeah, it's also a very countrythat will, I believe, and this
could get some hate, but Ibelieve this is a country that
(25:26):
will hold you down in the senseof, like you can live a real
comfortable life here, but don'tgo do some big shit.
Sit down, I mean we're alltrying to be comfortable here,
that's right, you know what Imean.
Yeah, don't do anything out ofthe norm.
Yeah, don't go, go outside thelines.
Buy a house, dude.
That's come on.
Why is everyone?
What's the Australian dream?
Buy a house.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Family home, blah, blah, blah.
It's like it's all conditionedinto us and the whole tall poppy
thing.
Yeah, Like going to the US hasreally opened my eyes up to that
massively.
Yeah, I agree, and I think itall falls in line with not
having any interest in thepolitical Like.
I don't know anyone who'sridiculously passionate about
Australian politics Not one.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know anyone, but not to say they don't exist.
They probably don't exist.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
If you exist, nah, I'm sure they don't exist.
They're just not interestingpeople.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, take that.
But yeah, I was just giving arandom example as to something
that people would rally behind.
I think there are things inextremities that people would go
, and I probably would too.
In all honesty, If it wassomething that extreme that
affected my life directly in anegative way, I would go and
rally.
I would throw bottles atparliament.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Political parties and the way they do things.
They're not stupid.
Yes, correct, they bring thingsin slowly.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that's it, it'll be.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Or they take it so far that they get pushed back.
And then, all of a sudden, youweren't happy with like, let's
just say, if you're doing zeroto 10, they'll go 10.
At first you would have beenlike I don't want five.
Yeah, like, all right, five,five, five.
You know what I mean?
I'm not letting you have 10,fuck that.
And then you get five in.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, without a doubt , without a doubt, I do think
there's some smart minds behindeverything and the manipulation
behind it and the power behindit.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I think it's a science, dude.
I think there is a yeah,without a doubt.
How do we Without a yeah, therehas to be.
We do events.
There is a level of scienceinto controlling the room you
know what I mean Seating,positioning, et cetera, like
there's a level of science tothat.
You don't think there's a levelof science to controlling a
country.
Yep, they're just fuckingrolling the dice.
(27:31):
So now, hopefully, everyoneobliges to what we say and you
know what I mean complies.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
They do it.
They do it.
They know what they're doingand fair enough, you've got to
do it, otherwise everyone willbe crazy.
That's why there's a little bitmore.
You know what I didn't see inthe US?
You know how everyone sayscrazy guns and blah, blah blah.
I saw nothing, unsafe, nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, I never felt unsafe at any moment that I was
there.
And again, granted, I was.
I didn't see a gun.
Yeah, I didn't see anyone umholding a gun or anything like
that.
Is that where?
Oh you went?
You went to actually multipleplaces.
You were in Texas, dude, I wasin Texas.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I was walking around saying, yo, nothing happened.
People tell you a nice hatTexas.
I think the barber did the.
What Went to the barber there?
Oh did you, Good barber.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Nice guy.
He has to tip the barber andhe's like, if I'm tipping you,
what the fuck is the servicepaying for?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's upsetting.
You're still upset.
It's been 10 days.
It's been 10 days.
We went to dinner last night.
Did you tip?
Last night?
Did you pay?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, I didn't tip, I said thanks.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Thanks, here's your tip Be good to your mother A
good knowledge.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Be good to your mother.
No, I didn't think the servicewas amazing.
The food was great.
If I tip them, they're notgoing to give the food to the
chef.
That food was great.
Food was great.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
If I tip them, they're not going to give the
food to money to the chef.
That food was phenomenal.
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Speaker 2 (29:07):
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For this episode yeah, for thisepisode.
Sorry, your check should be, orwe're expecting the check in
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Speaker 2 (29:22):
But yeah, look, long story short, fuck Australian
politics.
I don't care.
I don't think it makes adifference in my life.
I don't think if I'd had paidattention I'd be any better off.
I think it'd be a waste of mytime.
I think they all talk, talk andthey don't walk the walk.
And I'm a US citizen now, sowhat's the?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
so should everyone take that standpoint.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think they're on.
I'm not you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I would say they did theoretically.
Let's just say theytheoretically took that
standpoint.
Fuck a show on pause, we don'tgive a shit.
Someone just do something.
Whatever, We'll sort it out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, what do you think what would happen?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think just eventually it would get worse
and worse and worse, and then itwould just become almost like a
dictatorship.
It's forever going to beLiberal or Labour, it's going to
be one of those two partiesthat come in.
They'd probably just conspirewith each other and just go hey
guys, let's just have you heardthat theory, you do it this year
, you do it next year, we'll getsomething sorted, it's one
party.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, it could very well be, and it's like we're
just looking at it.
It's like it's the illusion ofan option.
Man, it could 100% be that.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like it's the illusion ofan option.
I don't know if it's, I'm notbig on, surprise me, man.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It wouldn.
But I'm just saying it wouldn'tsurprise if that came out.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I wouldn't be just like so blown away with the
concept and the idea.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But you know, just in this, current landscape.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It would be hard done , bob, I would, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'd be like dogs.
Someone's going to dob you in,who cares?
Call the cops.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Call for I don't give a damn, I don't you get paid
the fine.
Well, fine, you gotta find meyeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't exist yeah, yougotta find me, um, who cares
like?
And if someone goes out oftheir way to do this to find me,
and you know, register meregister you.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm gonna register you, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
My name's Robert Chiguer, just hit a vote nah, if
you, if you do go out of yourway to do that, I want you to
know that I will find you and Iwill kill you.
Yeah, I have zero interest,dude.
I can't I don't know Sell it tome.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I can't Because, because I can't, I don't believe
that passionately in it, I willstill vote and I will vote
liberal again.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
What would make?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
you vote for the other party If I knew some more
of their policies that I thoughtwould be beneficial for me in
business.
That's all and life.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
And you think this other dude's Trump-esque?
Yeah, he is Just from some ofhis policies that he's trying to
be.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I think that's a strategic position that he's
taking because he's seen it'sworked over there.
I still don't think he's, ashe's definitely not as extreme,
like he had a couple of littlepolicies there that he was
saying he's not going toshowcase the Australian flag
with the Aboriginal flagwhenever they address the nation
or the world, cause at themoment they have both flags.
He goes we are one country, weshould be under one country,
(32:13):
under one flag.
It's not.
We're the only country in theworld that does that, where we
have the two side by side.
And he goes I just want to getrid of it.
I'm going to get rid of that.
He's saying it from a point ofunity, not from a point of
isolating a certain group ofpeople.
He goes that's not to saythere's any less significance
behind the Aboriginal flag.
He goes we're just Australian.
We are not just we areAustralian.
(32:35):
So you know I resonate withideas and policies like that.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You sound like you really like him.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He's my fan.
He's going to get you on thepodcast.
Call him, I will.
Pistol Pete.
Get ready.
Pistol Pete, that's what wecall each other, that's what I
call him, because we're on thatbasis, and he calls you Top
George, top George and PistolPete.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What an episode that'll be.
That could be um.
I feel like I have to sit out.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know what I mean well you just convinced me why I
should, and what a great, whata great fucking question to ask,
uh, the leader of the countryyou know if I, if I had the
position, you know what?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
someone tag him.
Someone tag him in this post.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh wow, what a great.
What a great question.
I would love to get peterdudden and anthony albanese in a
room to a debate.
No, not, no, not even thefuck's a debate, because they're
just going to sit opposite eachother and they're just going to
say oh well, you want to dothis and I'm going to do this.
Oh, you don't look afterAustralians.
He doesn't get like shut thefuck up, do they do debates?
Yeah, they do political debateyeah.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh, really, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am so I know they
do it in the US.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
No, they do one here they do one here.
I've never watched one.
Never watched one.
I think I might have flickedthe channel by accident and saw
them once upon a time, but I'venever watched one.
I would like to watch that.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Maybe it's something that will spark your interest,
but I would love to ask him aquestion and say why should I
care and why should I vote?
And don't answer that you'regoing to give to the masses.
Tell me why I should take aninterest in politics and why I
need to be voting for you orvoting for the other bloke.
Okay, forget even the voting atthe moment.
(34:08):
Why should I care?
Why should I care who whetheryou win or albanese wins, or
vice versa?
Why should I give a shit?
Because the harsh reality ismost of the population doesn't
give a fuck.
Yeah, I think.
I think they're just there.
They either do a donkey votewhere they just scribble, they
just mark their name off andjust do whatever, or they'll
vote for the Australian sexparty because they think it's
(34:29):
funny.
Is that a thing?
It is a thing.
There's a party called theAustralian sex party and they
get increased votes every timebecause people are like man,
let's just get them in.
Who gives a shit?
The Greens now these hippiescoming in protecting trees and
shit like that.
They get lots of votes now.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't know.
It doesn't seem like anyone'slife gets any impact.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
America's changing Massively and they're changing
the world.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Can I just?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
say before we go on?
I just said a throwaway commentthe greens that love trees and
the hippies.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That goes to show how much I know about them.
It goes to show how ignorant Iam.
On that.
There is no incentive, there isnothing there for us to go out
there and learn and be committedand be passionate about this.
You sound passionate, I'mpassionate that there's no
passion.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's a tongue twister there for you.
It is yeah.
So long story short.
I'm leaving Australia, I'mgoing to the US to become a
politician.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, and I'm going to be premier of Victoria.
Yeah, vote for me.
Vote one Top George George isgoing to be premier of Victoria.
Yeah, vote for me.
Vote one top George George isgoing to be Premier of Victoria.
And then we'll do deals.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Would you really do it?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I mean, if I could make some significant change,
what would be Okay, let's dothis.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What would you do Like?
Why?
Okay, let's fast forward sixmonths.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Ah, yes.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Six months.
That's all.
It took Six months and nowyou're running for Premier.
Why?
Thanks George, thanks forjoining me today.
Why should the country?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
the state, the country will get involved too,
because I love it.
They'll be like oh, this guywhy?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
should the state vote for top George.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to change?
I don't know.
I'd have to see what's bustedfirst.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'd have to see what's busted first.
I'd have to see what's reallybroken.
You don't know what's broken,not specifically.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, there's things I don't like.
What's the one thing?
Plastic straws.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Plastic straws 100% That'll go out.
Plastic bags get them back too.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Dude, how keen are they to give you plastic bags in
the US?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
They're like do you need a bag?
I'm like no, and they're likecome on, take one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, I'm like it's free.
Look, it's free, we don't evenhave to pay for it.
Yeah, here we pay for paperones.
I don't even know, man, Iwouldn't know.
I'd probably look at a wholerange of business type things.
I it's to encourage businessesto actually go out there and
employ and make money.
I'd give some tax cuts to themand incentives for people going
(37:06):
out on a limb.
I'd be celebrating that aspectof it.
I'd be pulling a lot of thebullshit stuff they teach in
schools, right?
So I wouldn't know exactly.
Change business tax structures.
Yeah, I'd be definitelysupporting small businesses.
That'd be a massive thing, Ithink, because if you can
support them, they're the keydriver of everything that
happens in this country, so Iwould definitely help them.
(37:27):
But then also look at, well,what are the big guys doing too.
Is there people avoiding theirobligations to the state With
the?
Electricity is out of controlin this state, right?
Electricity prices, what you'repaying for home electricity and
to heat and cool your home, andgas, and all that?
Why?
Why is there three or four bigretailers and that's it?
(37:47):
Why do they have a monopoly?
Why is that the rate?
Why is this?
You used to put solar in yourhouse.
There used to be a return oninvestment.
You get fuck all return forsolar.
Now, why?
Why are there all these thingsin place that just make that?
Just don't make sense?
I would try and do a Doge stylereview of everything we're
(38:09):
doing.
Come in and look at it and go.
That is fucking dumb.
Stop it.
Just stop.
Stop doing that dumb shit.
Albanese, do you?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
know what I mean Get out of the chair.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
But simple things like that and I guarantee you
once, like I'll go, I'll hireadvisors, say, listen, go
through and tell me all the dumbshit that we do in this state
Tolls, why.
I said it to you the other day,we're talking about tolls when
we're driving home.
So why are'm going this way?
(38:43):
Good, but tolls.
I reckon that fucking MonashFreeway has been paid off 17
times over.
Why have we still got tolls?
Why are there still tolls, itsays.
Is that supposed to stop awhile?
From memory, I'm going off thetop of my head now.
Apparently, those tolls weresupposed to be off by a certain
date and people just forget.
No, it's written somewhere whenit first came in.
I remember when tolls werefirst introduced onto that road.
I understand it.
(39:03):
We had to pay to get the tunnelbuilt.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's the oldest thing I've ever heard you say in my
life I remember when they I'm 40, back in my day I remember Back
in my day.
Let's put these tolls up.
I remember when they namedMontolia when they gave it the
name.
I was there In 700 BC, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
So yeah, but like something like that.
Maybe there's something therethat's like people just forget,
they don't care.
Like ask them hey, why don'tyou ask the question, why do we
still pay in tolls?
Oh, it's a great revenue raiserfor the company, for the state.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's what it is, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, get's all right , I'll get money elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Sort it out.
Tariffs, here we go.
You know what I mean?
We'll find things, we'll make agame.
You can't just drop businesstax and remove all the tolls.
I'm not.
How much do you reckon theymake for tolls?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm going to make it better.
I'm not saying not to, I'msaying there make millions of
dollars a day, without a doubt,without a doubt, but it's also
run by a private company whichis owned by who I don't know.
No idea, as in it's managed bythem, it could be managed by
(40:10):
them.
I'm sure the governmentdefinitely takes it 100%, 100%.
But yes, it could be just apure revenue raiser.
But there's so many otherthings, like our stamp duty.
You know stamp duty.
When you buy a home, you paystamp duty on it.
Do you know what the stamp dutyis for the original tax?
Why they brought stamp duty in?
You were telling me this earlier.
I told you yeah, to fund thewar, to fund World War II, yeah,
(40:30):
but this and it's just here.
It's still here.
But people just oh, Like I buya house, I have to pay stamp
duty.
Yeah, you don't even know whatit is.
It's to support the war efforts.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's an administration piece of a
hundred grand.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Exactly Whatever it is Right, but clipping the
ticket, still going through that.
This is why we have so manyissues in the country and in the
state, and I'd be looking if Iwas in power.
Guys, I'm just going to startfrom the top.
Look at what's fucking stupidand go cool, let's get rid of
that.
What are we spending stupidmoney on?
What are we charging stupidmoney on?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, I think the spending part is massive.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
The spending part's going to be massive.
I'm sure there are heaps ofthings and I don't even know
what they are, I just don't know.
I'm sure if I started Googlingand chat GPT or whatever, I'd be
all right.
But getting in front of a stagetalking in front of people, I'd
excel at that part.
That'd be fun and peoplewouldn't like.
I'm sure there'd be questionsthat they would try and stump me
on because I'm not a politician, I'm a business owner and
(41:27):
builder.
I'm that way inclined.
I'm sure they would come andtry and stump me on fiscal
policy and all this and tell methis and say listen, fiscal
fucking know what that means.
You can say that in the meetingwhen I'm addressing the state,
I say listen, I've got no ideawhat you just said.
Okay, but you see, those threepeople, they fucking love fiscal
(41:47):
policy.
They love it, they breathe it.
They're going home tonight andtalking to their wives about it.
Google what fucking fiscalpolicy means.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh, you don't even know what it means.
I don't even know.
I've heard it once.
Yeah, I think you'd do well.
Look, I might register to votefor you, but if you do that, if
you do that, I might do it.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Okay.
Fiscal policy involvesgovernment decisions on revenue,
taxes and spending to influencethe country's economy, aiming
to achieve goals like economicgrowth, employment and price
stability.
I'm all for that shit.
I'm all for that.
But if they ask me to explain,I just have to Google it, and I
might even do that whilst I'maddressing the state.
Let me just Google that,because that's not important.
(42:27):
Me knowing those things is notimportant.
Me getting the right team in todo those things and to action
it based off what's best for thestate or for the country that's
what's important.
Can?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
you do well.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
In which, in the position, I'd like to think so,
yeah, I'd like to think so, butI think I would also get a lot
of people offside.
I think a lot of peoplewouldn't agree with my point of
view, which is totally fine.
The whole idea of that is youshould have opposing views
because I should be challenged.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Otherwise then I can become a dictator.
Yeah, exactly, I mean you'resitting there like, oh yeah,
we'll do what you want I get andwe'll do what you want.
You get a bag, you get a bag.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It would be difficult .
You can't please everyone.
You never will.
Being like the South Czechshouldn't be the aim.
That's right and that's what Imean.
The decisions that I make.
I'm there to do what's best forthe state.
That's what I'm there to do andthat's what the Prime Minister
should be doing.
That's what the premiers ofeach state should be doing
(43:26):
what's best for them, and thenalso as a whole, premiers, I
think, can sometimes be like no,this is the best for Victoria,
fuck New South Wales.
No, you live in the samefucking country.
Sort your shit out, make thegame easy to win.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I'm going to make you paid.
Sort your shit out, make thegame easy to win.
I'm going to make you paid.
Vote one for Top.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Doored.
Oh my goodness, Could youimagine?
Well, I think Iggy might evenstay here, register to become a
citizen and vote for me.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Look if there's anything that's going to bring
him back.
I mean, this is going to be it.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
That's going to be.
It isn't it.
But do you know what elsepeople should vote us?
The number one podcast in thecountry.
That's what they should do, andhow would they do that?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
That's a great question, good, great question
we should enter like a podcastaward.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
How good would that be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
An award.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Actually, you know there are podcast awards.
Yeah, I know we should enter it.
If you're listening to thepodcast people giving awards out
, we'd love this.
Give us an award.
Give us an award.
Give us an award and an or giveus a nomination.
Yeah, let's just go to theparty.
That'd be fun.
And we can wear our hats.
Yeah, we can wear our tops.
We can get t-shirts and see howmany people comment on our tops
and say love, the top Isn't, ifyou.
(44:35):
Yeah, I don't know aboutbragging, about being nominated
for something.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh yeah Cause you can self nomnominate or get your
mum to do it.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Like it looks good, but it's not that good.
Not that good.
It's a branding ploy, marketingploy, but yeah, to win it, I
think it's better, and itdepends how you win it.
Do you win it by paying a$20,000 subscription fee to a
magazine or do you win it bygenuine votes from people that
have influence in that space?
Who knows, who knows?
(45:04):
Regardless, we don't do it forthe accolades, we don't do it
for the awards.
We do it because we love youand we want you to be subscribed
to this channel so we can helpreach other people that love to
hear our conversations and, moreimportantly, learn something
that they can implement in theirbusiness or their lives.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I agree, you concur I concur.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Well, this has been an interesting chat and one that
I didn't think it would go inthat direction.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
But if you've taken anything away from this whole
conversation.
It's vote one for Top George,that's it, just do it.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Find a way.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
If you want taxes to go down and tolls to go down and
everything else to go down, andfor me to kiss your baby, yeah,
and to get plastic straws, voteone.
Top George, here we are, we'llbe back here next week.
Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Knowing you well and knowing how passionate you are
about this country and thefuture that it's heading in,
please tell me in depth yourpolitical views.
That's a great question.
I think he's doing good stuff.
He's actually getting in thereand getting shit done, as
opposed to everyone else that'sso scared to lose votes.
He doesn't give a fuck.
We've got someone that knowswhat they're doing Outside of
(00:20):
looking in.
I think he's great.
The other thing I also noticedas well is people in australia
probably victoria more so.
They'd love to be told what todo australia needs to break free
from the corrupt.
If enough people stood up for acertain cause or position, I
think they have influence.
(00:44):
Knowing you well and knowinghow passionate you are about
this country and the future thatit's heading in, please tell me
in depth your political views.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's a great question .
Speaker 1 (00:59):
As a US citizen.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I'm all for Trump.
Pledged Red all the way.
I think we've got to get rid ofthese Mexicans, Dude.
Let me tell you, in the US, thepolitical landscape is very
divided.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
See, most people we spoke to when I asked they're
like hey, what do you reckonabout Trump?
Most people weren't that I hatethat guy or I love that guy,
even though I'm sure there is alot of them.
But most of the people I spoketo Get in a Mexican Uber.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Get in a Mexican Uber .
Yeah, I'm serious, when you'rein San Diego, they're like man.
That guy's got no idea whathe's doing.
He's deporting people, he'ssending families, splitting
families up, blah, blah, blah.
And there's people that hatedhim.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And there was people that were like, finally, yeah,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We got someone that knows what they're doing Outside
of looking in.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think he's great, I think he's doing MAGA.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, 100%.
Maga, yeah 100%.
I would have voted for him if Iwas there, for sure, and I said
that to people too.
I said, looking at what he'sdoing, I think he's great, I
think he's doing good stuff.
He's actually getting in thereand getting shit done, as
opposed to everyone else that'sso scared to lose votes.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Don't vote for me, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Plastic straws are fucking sick dude oh man,
plastic straws are so good.
You know what that was myfavorite thing about?
Without a doubt, the plasticstraws.
You know, when you now go we'reliving in the past Get a paper
straw.
You're just like what is thisabsurdity?
I refuse to use it.
What are we bums?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I refuse to use it.
Yeah, I'm serious.
I don't use straws anymore.
I pull the lid off and justdrink it without.
Oh, it's the worst dude.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So bad and it's like why can't we do that?
Yeah, why can't whoever's thepresident, the dictator of power
at time?
To go back to your question, Ido not.
I don't know.
You don't know what was thequestion what's your political
(02:59):
views?
I don't know how to answer that.
Do you care?
No, do you care no?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Do you?
Yeah, but I don't care enoughto go to a rally.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't vote.
What do you do?
I'm never registered.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Call the cops, call them, call the LAPD.
Tell them, yeah, tell themSeriously, I've never registered
, I've never voted, not once,and I don't care because I don't
feel like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't feel like your vote will make a difference
.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, just don't.
I feel like they're.
All my life has not changed, nomatter who got in power.
I can change this for me.
Yeah, I mean, it's all the sameway.
Yeah, you know what I mean and Idon't care and it doesn't
interest me and I don't followyou on Instagram and I consume
(03:49):
no television or radio, so I getzero information from it.
I don't know who the primeminister is.
I don't know what his firstname is Joshua, shut up.
What's his first name?
Anthony Anthony Albanese.
Yeah, I knew that part.
Yeah, because it sounds likeLebanese.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It does.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the only way to remember things.
Yeah, it's like.
What country does it sound like?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, cool.
Yeah, nothing's easy withAlbanese, or it's all easy with
Albanese?
Yeah, Depending on yourpolitical view.
So do you think that's aproblem?
Do you think if everyonethought your way, that would be
good for this country?
Because we're coming, we'reinto the election campaign now.
Oh, is it.
Yeah, there's bloody presidentskissing babies and everything.
(04:39):
Isn't that that's?
That's the dumbest shit I'veever heard of.
If I was in, sorry when I'mpremier and then eventually
prime minister, as we are allgoing to go for and you're all
going to vote for me, you knowit.
Everyone on this podcast will.
That is subscribed.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's like a Premier's , like right hand guy.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's that called?
Two I see how did I Like the.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, is there a?
Thing?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The deputy.
Is that what it is?
I don't know.
I'm gonna be the deputy.
The deputy, it's gonna be sickand you're gonna be my only
option we'll get our own versionof doge here.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so yeah, do you think that's a bad thing?
Oh, sorry.
So when I'm prime minister anddictator and all that sort of
shit and I'm running the countrydoing my thing, I don't know
what's going on with that.
Now you distracted me withyour-.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You were saying that I felt like I was telling you
about kissing babies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh yeah, it's like the very first thing.
I would never.
I would never, ever be that guythat holds babies and like
don't touch.
Hey, I've got my own kids.
You touch your own kid, mate,don't worry about it, I don't
need to hold your baby I don'tneed to take a photo with it.
I'd be very straight down theline.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I'd be.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Trump-esque.
No, relax, I'm not going toboot it out the window.
I'd be very Trump-esque as faras my approach to things Because
, again, I think it's justpractical just not giving a shit
.
I think it'll upset, but I alsothink it'll resonate with a lot
of people too.
Polarization set, but I alsothink it will resonate with a
(06:08):
lot of people too.
Yeah, I think polarization isyeah and I think that's exactly
right, and you see that now withsome of the politics that are
coming up and what they're doing.
But ultimately, I feel that inthis country there is you got
your two parties, labor andLiberal, and you're just picking
the bad of a, the best of a badbunch.
That's where I feel like it'sat in this country, and it's a
shame because we deserve better.
The other thing I also noticedas well is people in Australia
probably Victoria more so.
(06:29):
They'd love to be told what todo.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes, we're a rule-following people.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Australia needs to break free from the Commonwealth
yeah, maybe that's what itcould be, I mean and create its
own independence, just like theUS did, would you?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
get more.
Would you show more interest inpolitics then?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Why?
I just I don't know what ifthere was a Trump version here
and you like, love the bloke?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, it's weird, though I was so into the US
election.
Yes, you said that, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So that's not even your country.
Was that more entertainment,though, for you?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh, probably yeah that's right, I was watching
Trump interviews.
I was watching them, dude.
I watched trump on joe rogan.
I watched him on the flagmanpodcast.
I watched him on theo von'spodcast.
Yeah, it's a serious investmentof ours, huge, huge, like I was
watching it all.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So why don't you let it up?
Why don't you have that levelof interest in your own country,
where?
You could get things they areyeah and it's a shame, because
that's what we need in thiscountry.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We don't really have independence.
No, like you've gotindependence within these lines
yes, If you fuck around and stepout these lines.
We're going to press againstyou Everything like from the ATO
to from taxes and the rules youhave to follow and the things
you have to do and blah, blah,blah, and it's like I've never
been, like a conspiracy theoristand so I don't want to give
(07:49):
them my.
You know, I'm like dude, likeI'm just a pleb, I'm just
another number to them at theend of the day, like if I do or
don't, their life doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah Well, I like, though the one thing I really
like and resonate with what yousaid earlier, is regardless of
your power, I don't give a fucklike I'm gonna get done what I
need to do, whoever was in power, doesn't affect me.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
like it is what it is , I'm just gonna roll with the
punches who I don't know andthis might be valid for someone
who's like a multi-millionaire,billionaire or something, but
whose life changed from the lastelection look it, what it would
do is certain policies mayaffect you, from a tax
perspective, for sure, and howyou operate in business and all
(08:31):
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
So for me, let's say, being in construction, that
whenever the Labor government isin, the unions tend to have a
bit more power during that timeand whatnot, whereas when the
Liberals are in, they sort ofput them on a leash a little bit
more.
So, arguably, it would help mein my industry more so.
(08:52):
So you could say stuff likethat, but I'm in residential
construction too.
That doesn't affect me too muchanyway.
Has your job changed?
As in what I do day to day, no.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Has anything changed at all?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Not at all.
In the sense, all that might'vechanged is the in-goings and
out-goings.
Yeah, but that changes all thetime.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know Someone can wake up in a different mood and
then you might get a differentresponse because of how they
woke up, because of how theyslept, because of what they ate
the night before.
Yeah, no one cares about that.
I just don't see and this couldbe my ignorance- it might be a
level of it, yeah, but I justdon't see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Because if everyone thought that way, hey, if
everyone thought that way andthis is probably why, because I
honestly think a lot of peoplefeel like you do we should put a
vote up.
It'd be interesting to see.
It'd be interesting to see.
I wanted to put a poll up.
Maybe I'll put it up tonight.
To put a poll up.
Maybe I'll put it up tonight.
Do you actually care about thecurrent political landscape?
(09:48):
Do you care who wins, who getsinto power, yes or no?
It'd be interesting to see.
I mean, I've been a Liberalvoter for the longest time,
purely because of the union.
That did influence me earlydays when I was working on big
tier one construction sites.
Yes, it did influence me backthen, but even more so as a
business owner.
I feel that their policies tendto favor more small businesses
(10:12):
as opposed to labor, tends tofavor the masses and the
everyday Australian working andwhatnot, and puts more pressure
on us.
I tend to go that way, but Istill feel that they're fucking
shit.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm picking the best of a badbunch.
I don't feel compelled to goand I've never gone to a
(10:34):
political rally.
Peter Dutton is the leader ofthe Liberal Party.
We've got Albanese on the otherside.
I'm not going to go to seePeter Dutton at fucking Port
Phillip Town Hall.
Kiss a baby.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that where they do it?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't know, man, I'm sure they'll bring a baby
there and wave my blue flag andsay, yeah, go, pete, you're the
man.
Are you a blue guy?
Blue guy, here we're blue.
Who's blue, who's we?
The right is blue here.
What's Trump?
Trump's right, isn't he?
Right wing, yeah.
So here we're blue.
The right wing is blue, yeah,the conservatives, whatever that
(11:10):
is.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Like the people who are more reserved, who are like
God is good and men should havewives and yes, yeah, yes, that
way more inclined, yeah, so, butwhy wouldn't I?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
This should affect me , it should be important enough
for me to do that, but does it?
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's why you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, exactly Exactly , but it should, if you're
looking at democracy.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Are they really in control?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Who these people?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They could be bought out by all these Like this is
all the other things you see.
Now, are they just owned by allthe multi-trillion dollar
companies that fund all theircampaigns and say, hey, we're
going to come in here and mineall this gas and it's not going
to cost us anything?
Yeah, they're like, oh, youcan't do that?
Well, actually we can, becausehere's a picture of your son at
school.
I don't know who knows whathappens in that world?
(12:00):
You what happens in that world.
Who knows Trillion dollarcompanies coming in doing
whatever the fuck they want?
Yes, there's all that talk ofwhat's happening with that.
But my point in case isdemocracy.
Here, people forget that thegovernment works for us.
The government should, in anideal world, be there to serve
(12:21):
the people.
I feel that in this countryit's the other way around.
I feel that we serve thegovernment, whoever's in power
at that time.
Yes, sir, thank you, sir COVID,point in case.
Whatever they said, we did.
You hated it, you loved it.
Whatever it was, you did it.
Most of the time, people woulddo it.
They could do something else.
(12:41):
Now, say they come out and say,oh, we're going to slug you
with income tax now on.
Well, we're going to reduceincome tax to $500,000 instead
of a million, so anyone thatpays more than that gets slugged
with a tax.
How do you stop that?
No, I disagree.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You don't.
You say these are the ruleshere, and you pick up your shit
and you move somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
If you don't want to have the rules, that's the other
thing.
Yes, that's right, you can move.
You can move country.
You don't fucking try.
That's right.
You can move country.
You can move state.
You can do those things that isavailable to you.
Yes, unlikely for a lot ofpeople that becomes a problem,
like, honestly, I don't want tomove.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Why.
I'm happy where I am, but thenobviously this is disrupted,
like let's just say what wouldbe okay, what would be the thing
that they would have tointroduce that would make you
say like this is annoying me.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I want to say some bad shit, but I'm not going to.
Okay, so Don't encourage me,I'll go on current affair.
It's the goal.
It's the goal, let's do it.
I'd say anything along thelines of influencing my children
in a way that does please mesignificantly.
I could still have the majorityof the influence, say, if they
(13:58):
made it mandatory educational todo something that I really
disagreed with.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's part of the curriculum.
Now Pull them out of school.
Fuck yeah, we're homeschooling.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, that's not that much, sorry, you can fix that.
Yeah, that's right, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So that's not.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know man Conscription,I don't know Doing something
stupid that really, reallyaffects me in a negative way.
So your option is this Okay,cool, I'm a first generation
Greek.
I'm now getting my passport.
I'm going to be a Greek citizenfrom this point on.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's what you do Far too.
You go to Greece.
It's all right, come to.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Greece, good life.
I would just become a fisherman, just live off the land.
It's interesting, got plenty offamily over there Can speak the
language.
What?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
a life.
You can also speak English.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What a life.
You can also speak Ling.
I could speak Linglish.
I could speak English and Greekover there.
What a life, Um yeah, that'sinteresting.
I, I'd um, I wouldn't havethought you would have said that
, but where else?
Okay, well, go to the States.
Yeah, go to the States.
You're saying go into anotherEnglish speaking country.
Me personally, that's what Iwould do, but I, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I would, I in all honesty.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I had to move countries, and if I had language
there too?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So that like I'm a fit yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But I and just a side note, speaking of travel around
the world Robbie got stopped atevery airport we went to and it
was the funniest thing and Iwanted to Did every single.
I wanted to take photos, Went tothe ice hockey they pulled him
aside.
They pulled him aside at everymoment.
It was the funniest thing.
It was almost as funny as halfthe shit Scott did Almost,
(15:42):
Almost.
But honestly, you got pulledover everywhere and like I'd see
you, you'd get in strip search.
Like what are you doing in thiscountry?
Like relax.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, got pulled into Homeland Security.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
When was the last time you went to Lebanon?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, what I've never been to Lebanon.
I sat down and interviewed byHomeland Security when I landed
in the US.
That's so good.
They were very nice, very nice,good on them.
But look, hey, hey, if I looklike I'm going to blow shit up
and you're doing your job, welldone, fucking nice, good job.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Wrong guy, but good job.
His jacket was puffy becauseyou put on a few more culottes
Eating some pizza, yeah, andeating some pizza.
It's not anything under thejacket that would be untoward in
America.
God bless that amazing place.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So you know, because you see people in the States
like people love Trump, like nopresident has ever been hated
more than Trump in history.
No president has ever beenloved more than Trump in history
.
What's the source of that?
What's the source?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I heard it somewhere, I don't know where, but I heard
it somewhere and I believe it,though.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
People love him and there's people that fucking hate
him.
Now you almost got assassinated.
Is that true?
Is that not true?
I don't know.
There's probably a button youpress.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, like hey press the button about Trump, like hey
, guys press the button aboutTrump.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, the Trump button, but we don't have that
here.
I mean, you do see people goingto these rallies and waving
their flags.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I've never seen a rally.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I've seen it on the news, like you see it on the
news when they win the election.
It's probably the team and youknow there's probably a lot of
the team, their family members,people like that.
So I don't even know.
I don't even know Australianpeople, sorry, I don't know
anyone that has gone to a rallyever to go see their prime
minister.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Who was the prime minister before this guy?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
The one that's here now.
You got.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
See, you don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It wasn't Turnbull.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You don't care, Maybe it was Turnbull Turnbull.
Yeah, Malcolm Turnbull Wasn'tScoMo oh no, it was ScoMo.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was, it was 100% ScoMo.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm an Australian politician enthusiast.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yes, you are you are.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Scomo was all right.
He used to do his cooks inCOVID.
Oh did he?
How funny Dude.
You know what yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
He seems like a genuine blo.
Come on, no, come on, man, comeon.
Have you met him?
Yeah, I've met him.
Oh, you've met him.
No, never, never.
But I've seen enough.
I've seen enough.
But I'm sure they're actuallyhalf-decent blokes and they're
doing the best they can.
I don't know, are, are they not?
Don't know, don't know, but Idon't see anyone making
(18:19):
significant moves in anything.
Like you know, anthony Albanesehas been in power now for four
years already.
Like, what's he done?
He's done nothing.
Like he's just sat there, andthat's probably his biggest
criticism.
People look at him and say,well, you haven't actually done
anything.
Yeah, you haven't actually doneanything.
At least Trump's gone in.
He's put tariffs in.
He's gotten rid of Well, go buysix draws.
(18:39):
Well, life-changing shit.
Yeah, yeah, it's the real deal.
He's gone in there and donethat stuff.
He's gotten rid of a wholerange of policies.
He's implemented Doge andgotten rid of all this useless
government spending that they'rethat were just throwing money
out the window.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So how much hate has Elon Musk gotten because of that
?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, it's massive, massive.
It's probably not good for hisbusiness and his brand, but also
, I don't think he gives a fuck.
Do you know what I mean?
Like he doesn't give a fuck,give a fuck, couldn't care less.
He's going.
I'm going to go to Mars, I'mgoing to die in Mars.
You guys will be right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah but his brand is so big now, yeah, do you know
what I mean?
Like, unless he loses hismarbles, there will always be
someone to be like.
Hey, man, like you know what Imean, we'll give you a hundred
mil come work for us.
Yeah, that's it do you knowwhat I mean?
Like he would never go broke.
He would never, unless he loseshis marbles, which is possible,
(19:30):
could happen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You never know, maybe he already has strange fella,
maybe to be in that level.
I think, he's a little bitcrazy I think you have to be.
I don't think there's anyonewho's staying a little bit crazy
.
That's where creativity comesfrom, doesn't it?
The crazy side?
The crazy side Doing shit thatno one else will ever dare think
of doing, and it's crazy untilyou pull it off, isn't it?
People once upon a time saidman will fly is pretty crazy,
(19:55):
pull on.
I am amazed still when you getin a plane, this fucking thing
that weighs hundreds of tons,flying through the air.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That ridiculous speed .
It's like a tube in the middleof the air Getting there.
You say does it ever be in theback of your mind when we're
flying just recently, whathappens?
This thing goes down.
Hold on yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
The whole time Back of your mind.
It was nice to the plane shakesa little bit.
You go, you'll be right.
Come on, buddy, keep going.
And it was nice to see, likewhen we were back on top of land
.
Yeah, like at least now, if wego down, hopefully we survive.
We blow up.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We blow up and not drown.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So that's good.
Dude getting lost in thePacific Ocean yeah, you're
fucked.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You go yeah, yeah look out the window.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's just fucking waves and dolphins and shit like
that.
That'd be bad.
That's what you're just.
Waves and dolphins like thatsounds very happy.
You look out waves, dolphins inthe way.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well it's good way to fucking beam it.
That's a good way to go um soyeah, uh, but it's a shame, you
know, but I like the aspect ofwell, it is what it is.
I'm just going to roll with thepunches, I'm going to do what
I'm going to do.
I'm control.
Good bad, I'll adapt, make ithappen.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, but that's not what it is.
What is it For me?
Like that's not, because likethe US thing doesn't impact me
at all.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But I watched it tightly, like very closely.
I watched the election.
I remember you telling me yeah,I watched it.
I was sitting there watchingthe election, had it on my third
screen at my house when I wasworking, because during the day,
yeah, I had it on my thirdscreen.
I was playing the whole timewhile I was doing a whole bunch
of stuff.
I'd mute it between calls.
Yeah, I don't know why I wasinto it, no idea.
(21:37):
Never watched a previous one,ever, ever, ever.
But I always seem to know moreabout what's going on there.
It could be because ofentertainment, or like more
people talk about it.
Possibly, yeah, but I don'tthink it's gonna.
Regardless of who gets in it,it's not going to impact my life
.
Yeah, is that a stupid thought?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I don't know.
I think it's stupid in thesense that if everyone thinks
that way, you'll never get anysignificant change for the best.
You'll just be the people thathave the deepest pockets, that
have the most influence, thatalways get into power and have
their own agenda the whole time.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
There's a small part of me that kind of believes
that's.
I don't think we have influencehere From every aspect.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If enough people stood up for a certain cause or
position, I think they haveinfluence.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You reckon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Australia.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, let's just say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's that, say they brought in conscription.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
What's that when you're forced to sign up to the
army to go to war Conscription?
Yeah, okay, I think that wouldcause in this country so the
draft.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Draft yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
So Australia's going to gobattle China?
I don't think we'll battleChina.
We like China.
We're going to go battle.
Who don't we like?
Do we not like anyone?
We like everyone.
We're very multicultural.
Here.
I feel like China gets pickedon China.
I like China.
I like China too.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
If you're watching this from China we're friends,
we've got your back.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, you're welcome on Million Dollar Days Mongolia,
mongolia, mongolia.
Of course, mongolia is our archnemesis.
Yeah, say we go to war withMongolia.
Yeah, and they go.
Oi, such a good country to goto war with, isn't it?
But they say like everyone, wehave to like, we need everyone.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Like in two months, two months.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Two months.
Stop what you're doing.
You've been conscripted.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think there would be uproar.
I don't think people would go.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I don't think people would go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, I don't think we've been.
We haven't been conditionedfrom any age or anything to ever
be forced to serve and go towar.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Here's a gun.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We're gun, we're going to go kill people.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm just giving an extreme example of something
that I think people would go.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, and you would run the streets.
If you fast forward 10 yearsand my son's 20 and they
conscript him, I'll kill you.
When you come to the door tocome get my son, it's not
happening.
He's a grown-ass man butyou're're 18.
Or he's 17 and he getsconscripted, or I get
conscripted and I have to leavemy family to go fight a war for
(24:23):
some other political agendayou're not.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You have zero patriotism zero, yeah, yeah yeah
, absolutely yeah, and I thinkmost people in this country we
know we're not a very patriotic.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, oh yes yes, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
They wanted to change Australia Day.
It's like it's the country'sday.
Yeah, like, why would youchange it?
Because people are gettingoffended?
Leave, go away.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, go away, you don't haveto be here.
You're not a tree.
Fuck off Like gay.
We are.
Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, weare.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So you're saying from a, a perspective of pc.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, dude massively.
I hate that.
I personally hate thatmassively.
Uh rule following.
Uh, everyone doesn't like youknow what I mean, dude.
Not much comes out of australialike this is a very safe
country to live in.
Yeah it's also a very countrythat will, I believe, and this
is a very safe country to livein.
Yeah, it's also a very countrythat will, I believe, and this
could get some hate, but Ibelieve this is a country that
(25:26):
will hold you down in the senseof, like you can live a real
comfortable life here, but don'tgo do some big shit.
Sit down, I mean we're alltrying to be comfortable here,
that's right, you know what Imean.
Yeah, don't do anything out ofthe norm.
Yeah, don't go, go outside thelines.
Buy a house, dude.
That's come on.
Why is everyone?
What's the Australian dream?
Buy a house.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Family home, blah, blah, blah.
It's like it's all conditionedinto us and the whole tall poppy
thing.
Yeah, Like going to the US hasreally opened my eyes up to that
massively.
Yeah, I agree, and I think itall falls in line with not
having any interest in thepolitical Like.
I don't know anyone who'sridiculously passionate about
Australian politics Not one.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know anyone, but not to say they don't exist.
They probably don't exist.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
If you exist, nah, I'm sure they don't exist.
They're just not interestingpeople.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, take that.
But yeah, I was just giving arandom example as to something
that people would rally behind.
I think there are things inextremities that people would go
, and I probably would too.
In all honesty, If it wassomething that extreme that
affected my life directly in anegative way, I would go and
rally.
I would throw bottles atparliament.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Political parties and the way they do things.
They're not stupid.
Yes, correct, they bring thingsin slowly.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, that's it, it'll be.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Or they take it so far that they get pushed back.
And then, all of a sudden, youweren't happy with like, let's
just say, if you're doing zeroto 10, they'll go 10.
At first you would have beenlike I don't want five.
Yeah, like, all right, five,five, five.
You know what I mean?
I'm not letting you have 10,fuck that.
And then you get five in.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, without a doubt , without a doubt, I do think
there's some smart minds behindeverything and the manipulation
behind it and the power behindit.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I think it's a science, dude.
I think there is a yeah,without a doubt.
How do we Without a yeah, therehas to be.
We do events.
There is a level of scienceinto controlling the room you
know what I mean Seating,positioning, et cetera, like
there's a level of science tothat.
You don't think there's a levelof science to controlling a
country.
Yep, they're just fuckingrolling the dice.
(27:31):
So now, hopefully, everyoneobliges to what we say and you
know what I mean complies.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
They do it.
They do it.
They know what they're doingand fair enough, you've got to
do it, otherwise everyone willbe crazy.
That's why there's a little bitmore.
You know what I didn't see inthe US?
You know how everyone sayscrazy guns and blah, blah blah.
I saw nothing, unsafe, nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, I never felt unsafe at any moment that I was
there.
And again, granted, I was.
I didn't see a gun.
Yeah, I didn't see anyone umholding a gun or anything like
that.
Is that where?
Oh you went?
You went to actually multipleplaces.
You were in Texas, dude, I wasin Texas.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I was walking around saying, yo, nothing happened.
People tell you a nice hatTexas.
I think the barber did the.
What Went to the barber there?
Oh did you, Good barber.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Nice guy.
He has to tip the barber andhe's like, if I'm tipping you,
what the fuck is the servicepaying for?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's upsetting.
You're still upset.
It's been 10 days.
It's been 10 days.
We went to dinner last night.
Did you tip?
Last night?
Did you pay?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, I didn't tip, I said thanks.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Thanks, here's your tip Be good to your mother A
good knowledge.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Be good to your mother.
No, I didn't think the servicewas amazing.
The food was great.
If I tip them, they're notgoing to give the food to the
chef.
That food was great.
Food was great.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
If I tip them, they're not going to give the
food to money to the chef.
That food was phenomenal.
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Speaker 2 (29:07):
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Sorry, your check should be, orwe're expecting the check in
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Speaker 2 (29:22):
But yeah, look, long story short, fuck Australian
politics.
I don't care.
I don't think it makes adifference in my life.
I don't think if I'd had paidattention I'd be any better off.
I think it'd be a waste of mytime.
I think they all talk, talk andthey don't walk the walk.
And I'm a US citizen now, sowhat's the?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
so should everyone take that standpoint.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I think they're on.
I'm not you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I would say they did theoretically.
Let's just say theytheoretically took that
standpoint.
Fuck a show on pause, we don'tgive a shit.
Someone just do something.
Whatever, We'll sort it out.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, what do you think what would happen?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think just eventually it would get worse
and worse and worse, and then itwould just become almost like a
dictatorship.
It's forever going to beLiberal or Labour, it's going to
be one of those two partiesthat come in.
They'd probably just conspirewith each other and just go hey
guys, let's just have you heardthat theory, you do it this year
, you do it next year, we'll getsomething sorted, it's one
party.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, it could very well be, and it's like we're
just looking at it.
It's like it's the illusion ofan option.
Man, it could 100% be that.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like it's the illusion ofan option.
I don't know if it's, I'm notbig on, surprise me, man.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
It wouldn.
But I'm just saying it wouldn'tsurprise if that came out.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I wouldn't be just like so blown away with the
concept and the idea.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But you know, just in this, current landscape.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It would be hard done , bob, I would, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'd be like dogs.
Someone's going to dob you in,who cares?
Call the cops.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Call for I don't give a damn, I don't you get paid
the fine.
Well, fine, you gotta find meyeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't exist yeah, yougotta find me, um, who cares
like?
And if someone goes out oftheir way to do this to find me,
and you know, register meregister you.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I'm gonna register you, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
My name's Robert Chiguer, just hit a vote nah, if
you, if you do go out of yourway to do that, I want you to
know that I will find you and Iwill kill you.
Yeah, I have zero interest,dude.
I can't I don't know Sell it tome.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I can't Because, because I can't, I don't believe
that passionately in it, I willstill vote and I will vote
liberal again.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
What would make?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
you vote for the other party If I knew some more
of their policies that I thoughtwould be beneficial for me in
business.
That's all and life.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
And you think this other dude's Trump-esque?
Yeah, he is Just from some ofhis policies that he's trying to
be.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I think that's a strategic position that he's
taking because he's seen it'sworked over there.
I still don't think he's, ashe's definitely not as extreme,
like he had a couple of littlepolicies there that he was
saying he's not going toshowcase the Australian flag
with the Aboriginal flagwhenever they address the nation
or the world, cause at themoment they have both flags.
He goes we are one country, weshould be under one country,
(32:13):
under one flag.
It's not.
We're the only country in theworld that does that, where we
have the two side by side.
And he goes I just want to getrid of it.
I'm going to get rid of that.
He's saying it from a point ofunity, not from a point of
isolating a certain group ofpeople.
He goes that's not to saythere's any less significance
behind the Aboriginal flag.
He goes we're just Australian.
We are not just we areAustralian.
(32:35):
So you know I resonate withideas and policies like that.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You sound like you really like him.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He's my fan.
He's going to get you on thepodcast.
Call him, I will.
Pistol Pete.
Get ready.
Pistol Pete, that's what wecall each other, that's what I
call him, because we're on thatbasis, and he calls you Top
George, top George and PistolPete.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What an episode that'll be.
That could be um.
I feel like I have to sit out.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know what I mean well you just convinced me why I
should, and what a great, whata great fucking question to ask,
uh, the leader of the countryyou know if I, if I had the
position, you know what?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
someone tag him.
Someone tag him in this post.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh wow, what a great.
What a great question.
I would love to get peterdudden and anthony albanese in a
room to a debate.
No, not, no, not even thefuck's a debate, because they're
just going to sit opposite eachother and they're just going to
say oh well, you want to dothis and I'm going to do this.
Oh, you don't look afterAustralians.
He doesn't get like shut thefuck up, do they do debates?
Yeah, they do political debateyeah.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh, really, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am so I know they
do it in the US.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
No, they do one here they do one here.
I've never watched one.
Never watched one.
I think I might have flickedthe channel by accident and saw
them once upon a time, but I'venever watched one.
I would like to watch that.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Maybe it's something that will spark your interest,
but I would love to ask him aquestion and say why should I
care and why should I vote?
And don't answer that you'regoing to give to the masses.
Tell me why I should take aninterest in politics and why I
need to be voting for you orvoting for the other bloke.
Okay, forget even the voting atthe moment.
(34:08):
Why should I care?
Why should I care who whetheryou win or albanese wins, or
vice versa?
Why should I give a shit?
Because the harsh reality ismost of the population doesn't
give a fuck.
Yeah, I think.
I think they're just there.
They either do a donkey votewhere they just scribble, they
just mark their name off andjust do whatever, or they'll
vote for the Australian sexparty because they think it's
(34:29):
funny.
Is that a thing?
It is a thing.
There's a party called theAustralian sex party and they
get increased votes every timebecause people are like man,
let's just get them in.
Who gives a shit?
The Greens now these hippiescoming in protecting trees and
shit like that.
They get lots of votes now.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't know.
It doesn't seem like anyone'slife gets any impact.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
America's changing Massively and they're changing
the world.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Can I just?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
say before we go on?
I just said a throwaway commentthe greens that love trees and
the hippies.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That goes to show how much I know about them.
It goes to show how ignorant Iam.
On that.
There is no incentive, there isnothing there for us to go out
there and learn and be committedand be passionate about this.
You sound passionate, I'mpassionate that there's no
passion.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's a tongue twister there for you.
It is yeah.
So long story short.
I'm leaving Australia, I'mgoing to the US to become a
politician.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yes, and I'm going to be premier of Victoria.
Yeah, vote for me.
Vote one Top George George isgoing to be premier of Victoria.
Yeah, vote for me.
Vote one top George George isgoing to be Premier of Victoria.
And then we'll do deals.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Would you really do it?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I mean, if I could make some significant change,
what would be Okay, let's dothis.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What would you do Like?
Why?
Okay, let's fast forward sixmonths.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Ah, yes.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Six months.
That's all.
It took Six months and nowyou're running for Premier.
Why?
Thanks George, thanks forjoining me today.
Why should the country?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
the state, the country will get involved too,
because I love it.
They'll be like oh, this guywhy?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
should the state vote for top George.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to change?
I don't know.
I'd have to see what's bustedfirst.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'd have to see what's busted first.
I'd have to see what's reallybroken.
You don't know what's broken,not specifically.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No, there's things I don't like.
What's the one thing?
Plastic straws.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Plastic straws 100% That'll go out.
Plastic bags get them back too.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Dude, how keen are they to give you plastic bags in
the US?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
They're like do you need a bag?
I'm like no, and they're likecome on, take one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
No, I'm like it's free.
Look, it's free, we don't evenhave to pay for it.
Yeah, here we pay for paperones.
I don't even know, man, Iwouldn't know.
I'd probably look at a wholerange of business type things.
I it's to encourage businessesto actually go out there and
employ and make money.
I'd give some tax cuts to themand incentives for people going
(37:06):
out on a limb.
I'd be celebrating that aspectof it.
I'd be pulling a lot of thebullshit stuff they teach in
schools, right?
So I wouldn't know exactly.
Change business tax structures.
Yeah, I'd be definitelysupporting small businesses.
That'd be a massive thing, Ithink, because if you can
support them, they're the keydriver of everything that
happens in this country, so Iwould definitely help them.
(37:27):
But then also look at, well,what are the big guys doing too.
Is there people avoiding theirobligations to the state With
the?
Electricity is out of controlin this state, right?
Electricity prices, what you'repaying for home electricity and
to heat and cool your home, andgas, and all that?
Why?
Why is there three or four bigretailers and that's it?
(37:47):
Why do they have a monopoly?
Why is that the rate?
Why is this?
You used to put solar in yourhouse.
There used to be a return oninvestment.
You get fuck all return forsolar.
Now, why?
Why are there all these thingsin place that just make that?
Just don't make sense?
I would try and do a Doge stylereview of everything we're
(38:09):
doing.
Come in and look at it and go.
That is fucking dumb.
Stop it.
Just stop.
Stop doing that dumb shit.
Albanese, do you?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
know what I mean Get out of the chair.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
But simple things like that and I guarantee you
once, like I'll go, I'll hireadvisors, say, listen, go
through and tell me all the dumbshit that we do in this state
Tolls, why.
I said it to you the other day,we're talking about tolls when
we're driving home.
So why are'm going this way?
(38:43):
Good, but tolls.
I reckon that fucking MonashFreeway has been paid off 17
times over.
Why have we still got tolls?
Why are there still tolls, itsays.
Is that supposed to stop awhile?
From memory, I'm going off thetop of my head now.
Apparently, those tolls weresupposed to be off by a certain
date and people just forget.
No, it's written somewhere whenit first came in.
I remember when tolls werefirst introduced onto that road.
I understand it.
(39:03):
We had to pay to get the tunnelbuilt.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
It's the oldest thing I've ever heard you say in my
life I remember when they I'm 40, back in my day I remember Back
in my day.
Let's put these tolls up.
I remember when they namedMontolia when they gave it the
name.
I was there In 700 BC, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
So yeah, but like something like that.
Maybe there's something therethat's like people just forget,
they don't care.
Like ask them hey, why don'tyou ask the question, why do we
still pay in tolls?
Oh, it's a great revenue raiserfor the company, for the state.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's what it is, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, get's all right , I'll get money elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Sort it out.
Tariffs, here we go.
You know what I mean?
We'll find things, we'll make agame.
You can't just drop businesstax and remove all the tolls.
I'm not.
How much do you reckon theymake for tolls?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm going to make it better.
I'm not saying not to, I'msaying there make millions of
dollars a day, without a doubt,without a doubt, but it's also
run by a private company whichis owned by who I don't know.
No idea, as in it's managed bythem, it could be managed by
(40:10):
them.
I'm sure the governmentdefinitely takes it 100%, 100%.
But yes, it could be just apure revenue raiser.
But there's so many otherthings, like our stamp duty.
You know stamp duty.
When you buy a home, you paystamp duty on it.
Do you know what the stamp dutyis for the original tax?
Why they brought stamp duty in?
You were telling me this earlier.
I told you yeah, to fund thewar, to fund World War II, yeah,
(40:30):
but this and it's just here.
It's still here.
But people just oh, Like I buya house, I have to pay stamp
duty.
Yeah, you don't even know whatit is.
It's to support the war efforts.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's an administration piece of a
hundred grand.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Exactly Whatever it is Right, but clipping the
ticket, still going through that.
This is why we have so manyissues in the country and in the
state, and I'd be looking if Iwas in power.
Guys, I'm just going to startfrom the top.
Look at what's fucking stupidand go cool, let's get rid of
that.
What are we spending stupidmoney on?
What are we charging stupidmoney on?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, I think the spending part is massive.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
The spending part's going to be massive.
I'm sure there are heaps ofthings and I don't even know
what they are, I just don't know.
I'm sure if I started Googlingand chat GPT or whatever, I'd be
all right.
But getting in front of a stagetalking in front of people, I'd
excel at that part.
That'd be fun and peoplewouldn't like.
I'm sure there'd be questionsthat they would try and stump me
on because I'm not a politician, I'm a business owner and
(41:27):
builder.
I'm that way inclined.
I'm sure they would come andtry and stump me on fiscal
policy and all this and tell methis and say listen, fiscal
fucking know what that means.
You can say that in the meetingwhen I'm addressing the state,
I say listen, I've got no ideawhat you just said.
Okay, but you see, those threepeople, they fucking love fiscal
(41:47):
policy.
They love it, they breathe it.
They're going home tonight andtalking to their wives about it.
Google what fucking fiscalpolicy means.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh, you don't even know what it means.
I don't even know.
I've heard it once.
Yeah, I think you'd do well.
Look, I might register to votefor you, but if you do that, if
you do that, I might do it.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Okay.
Fiscal policy involvesgovernment decisions on revenue,
taxes and spending to influencethe country's economy, aiming
to achieve goals like economicgrowth, employment and price
stability.
I'm all for that shit.
I'm all for that.
But if they ask me to explain,I just have to Google it, and I
might even do that whilst I'maddressing the state.
Let me just Google that,because that's not important.
(42:27):
Me knowing those things is notimportant.
Me getting the right team in todo those things and to action
it based off what's best for thestate or for the country that's
what's important.
Can?
Speaker 2 (42:36):
you do well.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
In which, in the position, I'd like to think so,
yeah, I'd like to think so, butI think I would also get a lot
of people offside.
I think a lot of peoplewouldn't agree with my point of
view, which is totally fine.
The whole idea of that is youshould have opposing views
because I should be challenged.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Otherwise then I can become a dictator.
Yeah, exactly, I mean you'resitting there like, oh yeah,
we'll do what you want I get andwe'll do what you want.
You get a bag, you get a bag.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It would be difficult .
You can't please everyone.
You never will.
Being like the South Czechshouldn't be the aim.
That's right and that's what Imean.
The decisions that I make.
I'm there to do what's best forthe state.
That's what I'm there to do andthat's what the Prime Minister
should be doing.
That's what the premiers ofeach state should be doing
(43:26):
what's best for them, and thenalso as a whole, premiers, I
think, can sometimes be like no,this is the best for Victoria,
fuck New South Wales.
No, you live in the samefucking country.
Sort your shit out, make thegame easy to win.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I'm going to make you paid.
Sort your shit out, make thegame easy to win.
I'm going to make you paid.
Vote one for Top.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Doored.
Oh my goodness, Could youimagine?
Well, I think Iggy might evenstay here, register to become a
citizen and vote for me.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Look if there's anything that's going to bring
him back.
I mean, this is going to be it.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
That's going to be.
It isn't it.
But do you know what elsepeople should vote us?
The number one podcast in thecountry.
That's what they should do, andhow would they do that?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
That's a great question, good, great question
we should enter like a podcastaward.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
How good would that be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
An award.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Actually, you know there are podcast awards.
Yeah, I know we should enter it.
If you're listening to thepodcast people giving awards out
, we'd love this.
Give us an award.
Give us an award.
Give us an award and an or giveus a nomination.
Yeah, let's just go to theparty.
That'd be fun.
And we can wear our hats.
Yeah, we can wear our tops.
We can get t-shirts and see howmany people comment on our tops
and say love, the top Isn't, ifyou.
(44:35):
Yeah, I don't know aboutbragging, about being nominated
for something.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh yeah Cause you can self nomnominate or get your
mum to do it.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Like it looks good, but it's not that good.
Not that good.
It's a branding ploy, marketingploy, but yeah, to win it, I
think it's better, and itdepends how you win it.
Do you win it by paying a$20,000 subscription fee to a
magazine or do you win it bygenuine votes from people that
have influence in that space?
Who knows, who knows?
(45:04):
Regardless, we don't do it forthe accolades, we don't do it
for the awards.
We do it because we love youand we want you to be subscribed
to this channel so we can helpreach other people that love to
hear our conversations and, moreimportantly, learn something
that they can implement in theirbusiness or their lives.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I agree, you concur I concur.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Well, this has been an interesting chat and one that
I didn't think it would go inthat direction.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
But if you've taken anything away from this whole
conversation.
It's vote one for Top George,that's it, just do it.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Find a way.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
If you want taxes to go down and tolls to go down and
everything else to go down, andfor me to kiss your baby, yeah,
and to get plastic straws, voteone.
Top George, here we are, we'llbe back here next week.
Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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