The Real Reasons To Choose Entrepreneurship

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Robby (00:03):
Fuck, I had a very cool thing I was going to start it
off with, and I can't rememberwhat it is now.

George (00:07):
Do you want to wait two seconds, or will we just talk?
What's that thing, Dude?

Robby (00:17):
I had it.

George (00:21):
It's gone.
It's gone, gone skis.
You'll probably remember ithalfway through.

Robby (00:26):
I'll tell you when I do.
It's so far gone.
You know when a thought fallsin your mind oh yeah, it happens
to me all the time and you'relike man, it was right there and
now it slipped through myfingers.
Happens all the time, and nowit's gone.
It was right there and now itslipped through my fingers.
Happens all the time.
And now it's gone and I can'teven like I was close.

George (00:48):
Do you find that that's because you've got so much going
on in your mind at one giventime or at any given time?
Because I feel like that a lot.
Lately Over the last six months, I felt that there's a million
things running through my head,yeah, but do you almost remember
something and forget it?
Oh, like as in, there'll besomething that I'm doing or I

(01:09):
was about to say and it'll slipthrough my mind.
You know, when you walk into aroom and it's like, oh, I was
going to say something, then youforget and you walk back out.
There is something along thoselines, there's a name for it.
When that happens, it'sdementia, touch wood.

Robby (01:27):
Don't say that it's um.
I think we're talking about twodifferent types of forget, but
okay, you know when you're likethis thing, um like on the tip
of your tongue and then it'slike you're about to remember
someone's name, for example, andyou're like it's gone I can't
remember your name.
It's gone, like you know what Imean.
And then there's like what didI come into this room for?
Because I've got no idea.
And then you leave, and then yougo sit down and then there's
like what did I come into thisroom for?
I got no idea.
And then you leave, and thenyou go sit down and then you
realize why you're in the room.

(01:48):
Cause there was something.
You know what I mean and Ithink they're kind of different,
but yeah, I had something.
I remember that I was like Ican't wait to kick off the
podcast with this.

George (01:55):
Yeah.
And it's gone into the, intothe abyss?
Yeah, then we'll have to pause.
Do the intro again, cut it, getyour team to work their magic
and put it at the start.
Or we can just pretend likewe're starting again when you
remember yeah, and be likewelcome back to episode.

Robby (02:13):
Or just pretend like I just said it and be like ah you
know what I mean.

George (02:18):
So I remember the first day I walked into my office
which one?
Not this one, my old office.
So the first time I moved inand I was really excited, really
pumped.
I remember the first day of mybusiness working in it, really
excited at the prospect, justpumped.
The opportunities ahead hadn'tbeen punched in the face.

(02:39):
And we often talk on this showabout how we can improve our
businesses and strategies,techniques, people, whatever it
might be.
We talk about a whole range ofthings, but something we haven't
ever spoken about is the goodthings about running a business,
like the advantages of runninga business, the fun part about
running a business, why you getup out of bed every single day

(03:01):
to go through the grind and havethe wins, have the challenges,
and I wanted to talk to that,about that with you today.
So why do you do it?
I think I like winning a lot.
To me it's, there's a level ofthat.
I love winning and thesensation I get from that.
Like I see there's a lot of hardwork to get the wins and when

(03:23):
we get them, that's a real fistpump moment for me.
And there's heaps of wins theretoo.
It's not just personal wins inthe sense that we won that $3
million job.
We've made X amount of money onthis project.
It's not just those wins.
I like seeing wins when myemployees win.
I like seeing when they havefist pump moments and seeing
them do really good, Like I'vegot, I reckon, three of my guys

(03:46):
on site at the moment.
Over the last six to eightweeks have been working really,
really hard and that to me is afist pump moment.
They're working hard, they'redigging deep, they're like you
know.
Sometimes they've been theretill eight o'clock and then back
at it 7 am the next morning andthere's no complaining.

Robby (04:03):
No, it's not slave labor, no, it's 10 hours, is it?
Yeah, you can't be back withhim, that'll be right.
That'll be right, it'scharacter building.
Eight to seven is 11 hours.

George (04:11):
It's character building, that'll be good.
So, yeah, but regardless, right, it's them going above.
Say you're going to fire people.
You have to because you'rereducing, you're going to try to
keep those people as long ashumanly possible.
Say it's really good times.

(04:32):
Hey, let's share the love.
You get a bonus, you get this,you get this.
The other day I actually Idon't know if I should say this
I rewarded an employee with aparticular bonus.
I said here thank you for yourefforts, here you go.
And he appreciated that.
Now he would have appreciatedthat gesture of what I did for

(04:56):
him, more than a 10K bonus, likeon his salary, I believe,
because it showed I didn't haveto do it.
It wasn't like the scheduledtime at the end of the financial
year or end of their reviewperiod, it was like just random.
Hey, you've been working hard,well done, here you go.

Robby (05:11):
So it wasn't a financial.

George (05:15):
Oh no, I did purchase something for him, but it wasn't
yeah yeah, so it was a gift inthat regard but you know I liked
I've done that with otheremployees too Like I like giving
them little wins along the wayand seeing them progress and
seeing them have that.
What's the word I'm looking fornow?
Acknowledgements, likeacknowledging their efforts too.

(05:35):
I like doing that andcelebrating what they've done
and their achievements in that.
So I'm really big on that.
I love seeing their wins.
I like seeing my clients win.
I love it.
You know, sometimes on projectswe might save a bit of money for
a client and we give that back.
We could very easily not Icould very easily fudge the

(05:56):
figures and keep that money.
I said hey, hey, you know what.
We've saved you $30,000 here.
Here's a cut.
Or we've saved a bit of moneyon this, have some back.
I love seeing those wins tooand seeing how happy they are or
resolving a problem for them.
We've had that on site too.
Some of the site guys againlooking at a situation this is
the issue.
They came up with a solutionclients over the moon.
So yeah, I think that's my corereason the winning aspect of

(06:20):
business.
I really love that.

Robby (06:23):
You just mentioned employees and clients.
If you could have a businesswithout employees and without
clients, would you do it?

George (06:36):
Isn't anyone that purchases from you a client,
though, regardless of you havinga relationship with them?

Robby (06:40):
Yeah, but like imagine you had an automated like, for
example, the amount you and Iwork with a client is very
different to how much ane-commerce store works.
That's right, Like.

George (06:50):
Amazon, for example.
Yeah, like Amazon.
Like, am I a client of Amazon?
I'd say yes.

Robby (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, to a degree.
How often do you speak to Jeff?
I just got off the phone withhim.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Their level of client, that'swhen it's like it goes from
client to customer.

George (07:05):
Because you come in, it's transactional and you're
out.

Robby (07:06):
You're there for a purpose, you buy something, you
might have returns, you mighthave feedback, blah, blah, blah,
but no one sits there.
Jeff's not here anymore.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?

George (07:19):
Yeah, it's not right, do you understand?
Yeah?

Robby (07:21):
would you prefer that?

George (07:27):
I, I, I like, yeah, I I don't know if I, yeah, there's a
level, I still look.
Human connection, I still enjoy, I enjoy that.
So okay, let me frame it.

Robby (07:36):
If you could make it the exact same amount of money.
Yeah, in the exact same way,without having to deal with
people on either side.
Yeah, would you do it.

George (07:43):
Yes, I would yeah, I don't know if you would.

Robby (07:46):
I would do, without a doubt I'm, without a doubt, in
the world.

George (07:50):
I'm trying to do it the second, I figure out how robots
can build my.
Build some houses, we'll be set.
Yeah, it's like.

Robby (07:57):
Yes, yes, I would, without a doubt there's a saying
I don't know who it is, someoneold and famous and they said
business would be perfect if wedidn't have to deal with clients
or employees.
But it's like most businessesthere is no business without
clients.
That's right.
That's right.
But yeah, so you're a peopleperson, huh, I enjoy people.

George (08:19):
Yes, I enjoy them.
That makes one of us.
I think you have to, because inmy role and what I do, I just
deal with people all day.
Every day I make a hundredphone.
I make or receive a hundredphone calls a day.
There's emails back and forth.
You know, thank God for chat,jpt to respond to some of these
emails and texts and whatnot.
But it's yeah for me.

(08:41):
I enjoy that aspect of it.
How many emails do you?

Robby (08:43):
send a day.
Oh, it really depends what I'mdoing on a particular task, but
or a week on a month, like ifyou were to like, try and
average it out because you know.

George (08:53):
I reckon they'd be close to maybe at least say on it on
an on an average day would be 40to 50 cent yeah.

Robby (09:03):
Yeah, serious.

George (09:04):
Yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of transactionsyeah, there's a lot, and if I'm
doing a tender or if I'm workingon that, it could be 70 plus.

Robby (09:13):
Is your inbox ever?

George (09:14):
empty.
Oh, never, never.
There's no greater feeling thanhaving an empty inbox.
Oh yeah, without a doubt.
When we flew to the States, Ispent 10 hours clearing my
emails, not 10 hours.
I spent a good part of theflight, a good eight-hour chunk,
just on my laptop, connected tothe Wi-Fi, responding to old
emails, just clearing everything, filing it, getting rid of it

(09:35):
all.
I get so many throughout theday.
I haven't checked my emails allday today.

Robby (09:40):
Nothing in my inbox.

George (09:41):
Mine goes for days Makes me happy and I'm actually quite
organized as well as in.
I file everything in its ownfolder too.
But we're not talking aboutemails.
We're talking about things welike, about business.
You don't like emails.
No, I don't love them.
Once I get Julia on board tostart getting my email sorted
and for those of you that don'tknow, she is going to be my AI

(10:03):
agent that Robbie's developingfor me.
But I've got some other thingsthat I like.
Winning is probably the corereason why I get up and come to
work every single day.
I like seeing.
In the construction business weget to see the fruits of our
labor, so we actually get tobuild something and you see the

(10:25):
end product at the end of theday.
So I do like that as well.

Robby (10:28):
The satisfaction of completion yeah.

George (10:34):
You can always like.
You can have a sense of pridein what you're doing there.
I think a lot of people can dothat too.
It depends on their niche.

Robby (10:42):
So do you still get?
I't obviously like so, not froma company aspect, but from a I
manage this project aspect.
Is there a sense of pride ofthat?

George (10:53):
oh, without for the individual.
You're saying for me, theindividual, yeah, for sure yeah
for sure, like I remember when Iwas an employee at other
companies like I still there's afreeway control center on the
front on the Peninsular Linkfreeway.
It's like every time we drivepast it, dad built that, I built
that.
You know what I mean, and I wasan employee back then.
It wasn't my company, I workedfor Abbey Group and you know I

(11:16):
still drive by.
I worked on that job In thecity.
I would go past one.
I used to work multiplex onthis job.
It's like it's almost ingrainedin every builder or every
tradie's DNA to say that, oh, Ibuilt that house, I did that, I
did that.

Robby (11:28):
I worked on that.
It's the same, so real estate'sthe same.
Sold a house?
Yeah, yeah, I could imagine itwould be.
It'd be like you know, I knewthat guy, I and you're yeah, I
don't know.
It's interesting because youdon't have a very high level of
hands-on-ness.

George (11:47):
Myself Any builder?

Robby (11:51):
Yeah, it depends it depends on how they operate.
I'd say a cheapy-turned-builder, but most builders wouldn't,
shouldn't, you could say?
Someone told me their job is tomanage the build digging
process.

George (12:03):
Manage the building process.

Robby (12:03):
yeah, yeah, so you still get the level of satisfaction
from it.

George (12:08):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Without a doubt, I mean, evenas a builder.
You're still so ingrained inthat process, from the tendering
, from the delivery, from awhole range of things.

Robby (12:18):
Yeah, it's bringing something into existence.

George (12:19):
Yeah, so I like that aspect of it too.
I like seeing the bank accountgo up, so I like money.
That's another core reason whyI started a business was to make
money, and I enjoy that part ofit too.

Robby (12:33):
What else is a positive of?

George (12:36):
business.
For you, there's generallythree things.
Why do you start a business?
I say this on stage too Most ofthe time, for people, it's more
time, more money, more freedom.
They're the big three thingsthat they really want to get.
That's why I want to start myown, be my own boss, without
shutting that down time.
We work stupid hours.
What time is it now?

(12:57):
It's 10 past 8 and we're in thepodcast studio.
Pm, pm.
Just to clarify, we're in thepodcast studio doing this
because we're committed togiving you guys episodes week in
, week out.
But aside from that, this isgoing to air Monday.
Yeah, no, fucking around.
Aside from that, we're here lateanyway, like we work.

(13:19):
This morning I was in theoffice at 5.30am.
I was just up.
I woke up early and I was likeI'm going to sit at home, I'll
just come to the office.
We work hard and you say, oh,more time.
But yeah, for example, today Itook off as in.

(13:40):
I went to a training program.
I was in the office in themorning, left at eight o'clock
gone.
But I can do that.
I didn't have to ask for annualleave, I didn't have to get
permission from the boss, Ididn't have to do anything.
I just made the decision thatI'm going to go Next Friday.
If I want to take it off, I'mgoing to take Friday off.
If I want to come in late, oneday I'm going to come in late.

(14:01):
I'm going to take the kids toschool or pick them up from
school or go to footballtraining.
I'll do my son's footballtraining.
I have the flexibility to dowhatever I want within reason.
Can't take six months off yet,but one day.
So I do like that.

Robby (14:18):
Yeah, it's a different set of rules.
Yes, yeah, there's still rulesin place.
There's still rules.
You can't just disappear.
You can't just switch off.
Yeah, you can't, like you can'tjust switch off for two weeks.
It's like that's gone.

George (14:33):
For me, I actually quite like the holiday period over
summer because the wholeindustry shuts down, so it's
like three weeks there where noone's calling you not trades,
not suppliers, not clients, notemployees and it's actually a
time where I get to switch off,which is why I quite like that
period there, whereas when wewent to Vegas a few months back,
it feels like a long time ago,doesn't it?

(14:54):
Lots happened, yeah, it wasn'tthat long ago.
No, no, but when we went, it wasfor me particularly.
I don't know what it was likefor you.
My mind there was a good partof my mind still here because I
just kept getting phone calls.
This is happening.
This is happening.
This person isn't rocking up.

Robby (15:09):
Yeah, you seemed like you were still here.
It was annoying.
It was irritating that I didn'tthat there were things going on
that I couldn't do that.
Yeah, I'll tell you what Iliked, though.
I liked the fact that the timezone was so different.
Yeah, that you were behind.
Like in europe, if you wake up,I would wake up at 4 am, and it

(15:30):
was already the middle of theday in australia, so I'd wake up
before you, my phone's blowingup there's a whole bunch of shit
happening I'm like cool, Igotta catch up.
Yeah, in the us I could wake upat eight and no one's on, and
I've, yeah, and I've got sixhours until my phone starts.

George (15:46):
Yeah.

Robby (15:47):
And I liked that aspect.
The downside was you could beout to dinner and your phone's
popping.

George (15:53):
Yeah.

Robby (15:54):
Because it's like middle of the day in Australia.

George (15:56):
Yeah, that's right.
We were working at midnight and11 to 1.
Yeah, we were doing some callsand emails and shit like that.

Robby (16:03):
But it's, I liked that aspect in the sense of you could
wake up and it was still quiet.
Yeah.

George (16:14):
They're some of the main ones that I definitely like.
We spoke money, time andfreedom.
The freedom comes at a laterstage as well.
I think when you first start,you really got to grind.
I think there's got to be alevel of enjoying the grind too.
I like hard work.
I've never been opposed to hardwork.
Have you felt about that?

(16:35):
Be it physical or mental?

Robby (16:43):
I don't, or mental I don't.
I'm trying to word it in a waythat it doesn't sound what's the
word for like?
When something sounds likesomething, everyone would say
Cliché, cliché, so it doesn'tsound cliché.

(17:03):
I've never been, I guess I'venever had a negative association
to that.
Like I'm always willing to dowhatever.
Roll up the sleeves, yeah, likeeven when I was working in
Mercedes, I would work.
I used to work seven till sevenat Mercedes.

George (17:19):
Yeah.

Robby (17:20):
Yeah, it used to be the first thing and last one to
leave.
I used to work similar in realestate.

George (17:26):
I think there's a level, there's a good.
Having that good work ethic is,I think it's important.

Robby (17:32):
Yeah, I'll tell you what I've started doing recently as
well.
I don't stay back as muchanymore now I just I feel like,
like man, I stayed back everysingle night.
I don't feel like I've gotanything done and it's like you
know what Come 6, 6.30, I'mgoing to start leaving.
I can just get out PM.

George (17:48):
Yeah, so that's quite late too, though.

Robby (17:51):
My whole team works till 6.

George (17:53):
What time do you?

Robby (17:53):
start Just depends.
8.30 is latest.
Yeah, should be in by 8.30.
Not in by 8.30, what do you do?
But sometimes I'm here early,you've seen it.
Sometimes I'm here earlier, itjust depends, depends how I'm
sleeping as well.

George (18:11):
That's a big part of it.
See, I find lately I'll go homeand I'll watch TV, for example,
but I'm like I'm falling asleepon the couch.

Robby (18:17):
Yeah, see, I'm not man, I can't do that.
Yesterday it was 11.20 and I'mwide awake and I'm like man, I
need to fucking sleep.
And then I'll sleep in.
Yeah, I slept in this morning,so I slept in.
It's still 8 o'clock or justafter 8.
Yeah.

George (18:39):
I think the reason why I'm so tired at nighttime is
because I get up so early.
This morning I was actually.
I saw my phone.
I was like 4.30.
I'm like fuck, it's stillpretty early.
But then I was awake so I triedto sleep for another half hour.
But you know when you're kindof still awake.

Robby (18:55):
No, I can't do that.
I don't know.
I've never been able to relateto anyone.
This is yeah.
I'm in a deep sleep.
I go out, yeah, Especially likewhen I've just woken up.
I can go out for another twohours every single time.
Yeah.

George (19:09):
Easily, yeah, so I just come to work and that's why I
think I get tired at nighttimeand want to go to bed nice and
early.
But yeah, I enjoy it.
I enjoy coming to bed to workearly because for me it's a real
quiet time like that six to 7,7.30 or 5.30 to 7, 7.30 is
pretty quiet because I don't getbothered on phones or anything
like that.

(19:29):
I can just work, do my emails,do whatever I need to do on the
computer and into it.
But yeah, I enjoy.
For example, now I'm not doingphysical work but I've got some
reports that are just doing myhead in and real time consuming
stuff like dotting the I's,crossing the T's, looking at
numbers, and.
But it feels good when I'vedone the work, like when I've

(19:53):
done, I'm like, oh okay, greatDone, that's finished.
So I have a little satisfactionthere too.

Robby (20:01):
I didn't get it from any From any task.
Yeah, Not from any task.
Yeah, Not from that kind ofwork.
I like I feel good when I get awhole bunch of shit done.
Yeah, Take a bunch of shit offa checklist, Um, but everything
you mentioned.
So you mentioned some level offreedom, time, money, people

(20:22):
winning winning.

George (20:25):
Uh, there's one other thing I like yeah, like doing
things, finding something new,like doing something better.
I enjoy that what do you?
Mean.
So it could be a new software,could be new program, could be
ai how I can introduce things tomake to streamline the business
.

Robby (20:42):
I enjoy that as well so like a level of it's still kind
of winning I.
I enjoy that as well.

George (20:45):
So like a level of it's still kind of winning.
I kind of see that as winningas well.
Like getting that competitiveadvantage.
How do I beat my opponent?
Like what do I need to do?
What things need to happen inthe organization to operate
better?
Like I was using this softwarethis morning.
I'm like fuck, this thing'sgood, Like it just-.
This thing that I'm using usedto be paper-based.

(21:05):
It used to be sit down, fillout the form, file it in a
folder, put it in your car, putit in a side office, pull the
folder out, do it again.
It used to be like that.
I was just thinking this hasmade life so much easier having
this software.
Give him a plug.
Give him a plug.
We had him on the show theother day Bill Pass, Bill Pass.
I him a plug.

Robby (21:24):
Give him a plug.
We had him on the show theother day.
Bill Pass, bill Pass I wasusing it.

George (21:26):
Shout out to Matt yeah, I was using it this morning and
I was like this is actually areally good software because I
don't have to do all of thesethings that we used to do, and
I'm doing it from my desk herewhilst the construction site's
operating.

Robby (21:39):
Hey, matt, if you clip that, you can make a video, an
ad, and we'll send you theinvoice.
Yeah, there we go, that's goingto make a good ad.
There you go, so it's a goodtool.

George (21:51):
It's a good tool, and that's just one.
That's just one of many toolsthat we use.
The other day you came in theoffice I like discussing ideas,
I like having business mindstogether and you came in the
office and you saw me standingat my filing cabinet and I was
putting paper in the filingcabinet and you looked at me and
you go what the fuck are youdoing?
That's exactly what I said.

(22:11):
You looked at me.
I said what the fuck are youdoing?
I was upset.
I was like filing yeah, that'smy favorite part of the work,
putting shit away.
He goes why'd you do that?
He goes why do you print?
And I couldn't give you theanswer and I'm like you know
what?
You're completely right,because I've got a printer.
Because I've got a printer,it's a big one, paid for it

(22:34):
Can't just not a grand, justlike cutting down trees using
paper, no.
So I was filing it, thinkingthere's got to be a better way
than this.
This is how I've done it forthe last 10 years Doesn't mean
this is how it needs to be donefor the next 10.

(22:54):
Why are we printing invoicesevery single month?
Why isn't there a digital wayto do what I'm doing?
Right?

Robby (22:59):
now there's also the aspect of sometimes something
doesn't bug you enough.

George (23:05):
Yes, but do you know why it has bugged me now?
Because I kept bringing it up.
Not that it's because my PA hasbeen away for three to six, say
.
A good portion of the year hasbeen away for reasons outside of
this conversation, but she'sbeen away, which meant I had to
pick up the slack in that area.
So I've had to process a lot ofinvoices, I've had to file and

(23:30):
copy, and all the shit that I'veemployed someone to do I had to
do myself and it took up toomuch of my time and it was
actually.
It's irritating me, which isgood, because then it forced me
to then call up the softwaresupplier and said I need to have
a meeting with you.
Oh, so did you change?
Yeah, I haven't changed, butI've had the conversation with
them.
So I had a meeting on Tuesdayand I said this is, show me,

(23:51):
because I've got a server-basedversion of the software.
They've got a cloud-based one.
Now I'm like okay, this is myissue, I don't want to do this.
What's your solution?
And they're like oh, okay, andlike okay, great, we have a
feature now where people emailall the invoices to an email
account and they getautomatically uploaded into the
system.
You just have to code them wherethey need to go sick.

(24:12):
So it's like just set up aforwarding address, it's exactly
, it's all it is.
I'm going to set up and sayinvoices at pascon, for example,
and then all the invoices gothere.
My pa can still code it to theproject that it has to go to,
and then you do a workflow.
Then the workflow goes to her,to the relevant administrator or
project manager.
They code it to the cost.

(24:34):
Code Done, don't have to printanything, don't have to file
anything.
It's all there in the system.
Pull up the report Away, you go.

Robby (24:43):
How many trees are going to be saved?
It's all there in the system.

George (24:46):
Pull up the report Away you go.
How many trees are?

Robby (24:48):
going to be saved.
It's sad.
It's sad.

George (24:49):
Not a fan, so yeah, but again there's that level of
change.
So I've got to go through that,I've got to learn a new system,
I've got to do this, I've gotto do this, yeah, but good, yeah
, and there's an expense withthousand dollars.

Robby (25:06):
Imagine how many trees I could buy with that by the trees
, that's it.
But thirteen thousand dollars,yeah, that's a lot.

George (25:12):
It's a fucking lot of money, yeah I wanted to punch
her in the face.
A year, no, once off, oh okay.
And then there's an annual fee,thereafter, uh sorry, a
quarterly fee, which I pay thequarterly fee anyway.

Robby (25:22):
Now what's the thirteen thousand for?

George (25:24):
for that plug plug-in, are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, this particularcompany and I'm not giving them
a shout out, even though I liketheir product, that's a lot, man
, it is, it is.
But again, industry leadingyeah, that's what you're doing,
yeah, that's right of.
Actually, there are others, butpeople that love it, love it,

(25:45):
and I'm one of those people,fair enough.
So, yeah, I like thediscussions with other people.
I like seeing people.
I like seeing other people win.
I like seeing other builderswin.
Yeah, they might think, oh,it's your competition.
No, I love seeing other peoplewin.
Yeah, but go out there andcrush it, man.
Well done, good on ya.
So I've got to push back.

Robby (26:04):
Everything you mentioned can be done as an employee.

George (26:11):
Yes, I reckon I can make more money here, though.

Robby (26:16):
You reckon there's no employee that earns more than
you?

George (26:18):
No, there probably is a CEO Google makes about $200
million a year.
Yeah, but just wait, just wait.

Robby (26:26):
He's a smart guy.
He'll probably work very hard,I've got no doubt.

George (26:31):
Yeah, but you're talking about the 1% of the 1% in that
space too.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
So it's hard to compareyourself to that as well.
But, generally speaking, in ourrealm of where we're at, like I
know, okay, I'm glad youbrought that up.
I know I could make a phonecall tomorrow and get a very

(26:52):
well-paid job, a very well whenI talk well-paid, I could get a
job.
Half a million dollars a year,yeah, I'm confident on that
thereabouts.
I'm confident on thatthereabouts, and it's never
occurred to me to go and makethat phone call because I know

(27:14):
I'm going to make more here.

Robby (27:16):
Yeah, I'm not saying why.
I guess what I'm challenging isokay, you said all these things
, you could do almost all ofthose things, and I would almost
go and argue and say mostpeople in businesses would
probably make more employees.
Say that again, a lot of peoplein business would probably make
more if they were an employee.

(27:36):
Yeah, sometimes.
Don't know what I mean.

George (27:39):
Yes, especially, I find, because a lot of them don't
have the tools they think theydo.
They're probably really goodnumber two, number three in the
business, but then when they goout and do it themselves, not as
good.

Robby (27:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're a skilled craftsman.
Yes, slash woman craftsmenslash women, but they aren't
business savvy and no oneteaches you that.
No one teaches that In anyindustry.
No, no one teaches that.

George (28:07):
I couldn't agree more.
Even if you go and do abusiness course and all that
sort of shit and MBAs, itdoesn't teach you that.
It doesn't teach you that youlearn stuff through going
through the process, unless youhave like a mental day, one that
literally shows you everything.

Robby (28:24):
That's what I would if I went through the same thing.
That's what I would do.
Yeah me too.
I say that all the time andjust say hey, let me shout at
you, for two years I would goand work for someone for free.
I pretty much worked for free.
Anyway, I was doing $7 an hourat Mercedes.
I should have just went andworked for someone for free.

George (28:42):
Yeah, exactly, look I would have still started a
business, but just spent somemoney on a mentor, earlier an
advisor, someone that has donethe things that I want to do.
That's probably what I wouldhave done.
I was arrogant when I startedmy business.
Admittedly, I thought I wasbetter than what I was I really

(29:04):
did.
I thought my shit didn't stink.
Then it probably didn't help,because I got wins on the board
as well, early days as well, notjust little ones.
I kept winning projects becauseI was good at what I did.
I just was never set up forwhen things got bad.
Then, when things got bad, it'slike you're trying to stop the

(29:26):
leaking bucket.
Look, that was a good lessonfor me too.
Business will teach you a lot,that's for sure, so you know
this question.

Robby (29:42):
You know this question.

George (29:43):
Why.

Robby (29:43):
I just said that most yeah, most of them.
Yeah, you said most people youcan do that in a no, no, yeah, I
said you can do all of that asan employee yeah.
So what's the difference?

George (29:56):
The difference is there's more opportunity.
I see more opportunity inrunning a business.
There's more advantages inrunning a business than you will
get as an employee.

Robby (30:05):
More opportunities, yeah, and no risk yeah, that's right,
but but my point I'm trying tomake is, like all those things
the seeing other people win,seeing our, our clients happy
you can do all that as anemployee.

George (30:17):
So why get into business ?

Robby (30:21):
So why get into business?
Gotcha call it.

George (30:22):
No, you don't.
You don't Because, honestly, Iwould I hope something comes out
of your mouth.
That particular thing, yeah,trying to get something out of
it specifically, yeah, I thinkyou just haven't thought about
it yet.
You reckon, yeah, do you know?

Robby (30:32):
Are you trying to get the specific?
Oh, you don't know what it is.

George (30:35):
Okay, I would say it has to get to a point where, yes,
you can make good money, but youcan make exceptional money.
I think you can have all thosethings as an employee, but you
can have it multiplied as abusiness owner.

Robby (30:46):
Okay.
So hey, george, google wantsyou to come and build everything
for them.
They're looking at hiring onebuilder.
They're going to get thegreatest satisfaction because
everyone loves Google.
You know what I?
Mean like, and then it's like,okay, well, what do you do?
I was like, where do I sign?

(31:08):
Do you have a contract?
Like yeah, but also becausethat just knocks everything out.

George (31:14):
would Google?
Would Google put me in thatposition?
They're not going to hireanyone to do that Call them,
Call them Call.

Robby (31:18):
What's his Mr?
It's a dinger.
What's his name?
Mr Google CEO?
I thought so his name's notGoogle the CEO.
Yeah, he's not, even he's anIndian guy no-transcript More so

(31:44):
than an employee.

George (31:47):
So that's probably given me a lot of the skillset to be
able to be in that position inthe first place.
I know personally, if I wasthat way inclined and I wanted
to hire someone to do so, I'd belike yeah, you're the man,
let's go.

Robby (31:58):
Yeah, but you would still get all the things that you
just mentioned.

George (32:02):
Yeah as an employee.
So money, I suppose money okay,but we're still comparing it,
that $20 million thing.
It's very unlikely, correct,that that's going to happen.

Robby (32:15):
Yeah, it's also very unlikely that most people make
$20 million in their ownbusiness.

George (32:19):
Yeah, correct, but again , they're still going to get
okay, so let's use a profession.

Robby (32:27):
Any particular.

George (32:28):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a no, no, no, just any
profession, let's say a barista.

Robby (32:34):
Okay.

George (32:34):
All right, so you're making coffees day in, day out.
You might be the best baristain the country Yep, really
famous.
Whatever People come and pay,what are you going to make?
100 grand a year as a barista,as the best barista, as a pretty
good one, like people arelining up for your coffee.
You work for a cafe owner?
Yeah, okay, yeah, so you'remaking 100k a year?

(32:56):
Yeah, well, if you go and openyour own cafe-.

Robby (33:00):
You'll probably make 70.
No good at business?
Okay, yeah, but do you?

George (33:04):
know what I mean.
There's more opportunity therefor them to make 300 or 500k a
year and then open a franchiseand then open one in another
suburb or whatever it is.
There's more opportunitiesthere available to them as a
business owner than an employee.
And I think the business ownerssee that the ones that become

(33:25):
business owners they see thatthey're really good at their
trade, at their craft, atwhatever it is that they are,
and they go okay, now I'm readyto give this a crack on my own
because I've got the skillset.
Now I just need to apply thoseskillset.
But, as you said, I think thebiggest problem is people just
don't know the fundamentals ofbusiness before they get there.
It's true, but say, for thatperson there, could he be hired

(33:47):
by Google to come and pay $1million to make coffees for
everyone in their head office?
Yeah, like maybe, but again,unlikely that that's going to
happen for the vast majority ofpeople.
That's one person that's goingto get that role, not 50.
So those 50 baristas that arethe top 50 baristas in the
country, they could all go opencafes and all go and make half a
million dollars a year, asopposed to the 100,000 that they

(34:08):
capped in their role.

Robby (34:09):
Yeah, so you could also if you widen your horizon.
There it's the same argumentLike what are the odds?

George (34:20):
that you're going to make the $500,000 out of all the
baristas.
It's highly unlikely.

Robby (34:23):
Yes, but there's more opportunity for them to be able
to do that.
How, why?

George (34:26):
What's the difference?
The difference, well, they'retaking on the risk.

Robby (34:31):
Yeah, but what's so the risk?
And then there's the rewardyeah, but so what's the
difference from a?
You're sitting there saying,but there's more opportunity.

George (34:42):
Yeah, but there's also more opportunity for the person
who goes to Google and gets paid.
Do you get what I'm saying?
No, why.
Why are we saying moreopportunity for the person at?

Robby (34:46):
Google?
Yeah, because think about whathe's going to be opened up to.
Huh.
Oh wait, hold on.
How do you define opportunity?

George (34:52):
I'm just saying.
You're saying there's oneperson going to Google, right,
but there's 5,000 baristas inthe country but that one barista
goes to Google.

Robby (35:00):
Oh, so you're saying the likelihood.

George (35:07):
Exactly of that person to go to Google or to go to a
Fortune 500 company and be thehead barista at that company.
It's not as likely.
There's more probability ofthem having a level of success
opening a business than whatthere would be to get that dream
job at that one company wherethey can make half a million
dollars or whatever it is.

Robby (35:22):
Define success.
It's going to be different foreveryone, though you could turn
around and say that it's waymore likely that you're going to
get what you want if you justgo work in a job and stick to it
.
Why it's way more likely to dothat?
We're talking likelihood now.

George (35:37):
Yeah.

Robby (35:38):
Yeah, so it's way more likely to do that and earn a
decent income.
Yeah, and you know, save yousay for people to do that, yeah,
yeah.
So save and budget and that'sthe likelihood of you getting
what you want by doing that isis way higher than trying to run
your own business.
Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.

George (35:56):
People.
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
So then why don't we do that?
Because there's lessopportunity.
A lot of people do that and arehappy doing that, but that's
why the vast majority of people.
There's actually lots ofopportunity there.

Robby (36:07):
Where In doing that, in being an employee?

George (36:10):
Yeah.

Robby (36:12):
Because people ladder and then you find some dud who's
been in a business for 25 years,is now the CEO and earning
multiple six figures, onlybecause he's stuck around.
Yeah, but there's going to be alot of people.
That same person would neverhave done it in a business,
would never have been hired by atop tier company.
How many?

George (36:30):
okay, but this is what I there's a lot of small
businesses are the driving forceof the economy too.
Yeah, they would generate more.
I'm pretty sure about this stat.
I'm not 100% sure, but I thinksmall businesses drive a fair
portion of the economy in thiscountry and in most countries
too.

Robby (36:49):
Yeah, the small business owners.
I don't know the numbers, butyeah.

George (36:52):
Yeah, whatever it is, whatever it is.
So when you're saying, climbthe corporate ladder, we have
the cafe on the corner here.
There's no corporate ladder.
There there's the boss, there'semployees and there's people
working there their opportunityto become.
They could be there for 10years.

(37:13):
Where's that I managed?

Robby (37:15):
the shop.

George (37:16):
I run the cafe now.
I can make 120.
But if he had his own cafe hecould make triple that.
He knows the internet.
He could also make a quarter ofthat he could, but that's risk
and opportunity.
This is where, if you start toget I don't know how we got onto
this topic, but you need to goand put yourself out there If
you think you're good enough,you've mastered the trade,
you've mastered whatever you'rereally good at Go out there now

(37:39):
and give it a crack and gocreate some life, money, freedom
for yourself.
There's an element of running abusiness as well that I think
gives you advantages.
What's that?
Depending how you structureyourself and your business,

(37:59):
there's tax advantages.
There's opportunities that youwill have running a business
that you won't have as anemployee.
Look, the number one.
For me, as I said, the numberone driving factor behind this
was to generate a significantamount more wealth than what I
would in a job.

Robby (38:18):
So if Google offered you that job, you'd take it.
Yes, but Google's Googleoffered you a job, yes, I would.
I would yes, double what you'reearning now no Double, no Five
times.

George (38:33):
Maybe I say Google, yeah , but picture a Melbourne
company.
A Melbourne company of somesort to offer me a significant
amount of money to do it,potentially 10 times 10 times
yeah, probably 20 times.
Yes, If I'm yes, a 10.
Hey, yes, a 20.

Robby (38:53):
I want to hear, like where do I sign?
Yeah, but then you'd still getall the benefits.
That's what I was trying to getat.
That was the point I was tryingto make.

George (39:00):
Yeah, okay, you wouldn't lose.
You wouldn't be losing, yes,but there's not that Okay.
So let's use me as a builder.
Yep, there's how many buildersin the country?
3,000.
How many people are going toget wealth and build something
for themselves is to do it forthemselves.
Not everyone is going to getthat $20 million project or that

(39:22):
$10 million or 10 times offeron what they're doing, so the
way that they can generate andwin at the game isn't to be an
employee.

Robby (39:32):
Yeah, yeah, no.
No, I'm not saying peopleshould go and be employees.
That's not what I'm saying.

George (39:36):
There's nothing wrong with that too, though, if you're
listening to this and you arean employee.
There is nothing wrong withbeing the number two, three,
number one in the business,because that's what businesses
need to thrive for the timebeing.

Robby (39:49):
So we get these AI agents working Till the AI agents take
over?
Yeah, but that's not the pointI was making.
What I was trying to say wasyou can still have everything
you mentioned and not run abusiness.
That's what I'm saying.

George (40:05):
Yes, you can but to a lesser scale, not necessarily
Most of the time.
And you could also say thatmost of the time.

Robby (40:13):
Your argument is twofold.

George (40:15):
But there are more positions.
There are less of those higherpositions than what there are,
employee type positions.

Robby (40:22):
Yeah, yeah, and there are also less people who fail as an
employee than people who failin business.
Less people that fail as anemployee.
Yes, yeah, you're quite right,yeah, yeah.
So that's what I'm saying, likeyour argument about.
Let's say there are threelevels.
Level one is employee.
Level two is business.
Level three is that top tierthat we're talking about getting
the high end role.

(40:42):
Yeah, so your argument from twoto three is applicable from one
to two.

George (40:47):
Yes, but there'd be less people two to three, less
opportunities.
Two to three, I reckon, yeah,quantity wise, yes, yes, that's
right, that's what I'm saying.
There's probably a lot morequantity-wise from one to two
than two to three, but it's thesame thing the other way around.

Robby (41:03):
Yeah, quantity-wise yes, but probably percentage-wise
it's going to be similar, or doyou know what I?

George (41:10):
mean.

Robby (41:10):
Yeah.

George (41:20):
Look at how many small businesses don't survive yeah,
there's a lot of that too.
There is a lot of that.
And then look at how manypeople who don't get to the top.
So why did you get intobusiness?
You could have had a very cushyjob at Mercedes, yeah, but you
could still be if you had beenthere now.

Robby (41:32):
How long has it been since you left?

George (41:33):
Four years.
Four years, okay, cool, thefirst time I left.

Robby (41:36):
Oh, first time Did you leave and go back?

George (41:37):
Oh, no because you were his apprentice and then you went
back.

Robby (41:40):
No, I was there for seven years.

George (41:42):
Yeah.

Robby (41:43):
And then, when I left real estate, I went back for a
year.

George (41:46):
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, oh cool.
Let's just say you never leftright A whole time.
Yeah, yeah, you didn't go toreal estate.

Robby (41:54):
You didn't go to real estate you didn't go to real
estate At one point I was prettylocked in.
That was my life.
I was like I'm here for thenext 30 years.

George (42:01):
What would be the most senior role you could get there
at the business?
Probably dealer principal,dealer principal.
What's that mean?
Like you own the dealership,run the dealership, you just run
it for someone else.

Robby (42:11):
Yeah.

George (42:12):
Okay.
So, dealer principal, what dothey make?
Five 600.
That's a decent wicket.
It's a big job, is it?
Yeah, it's a massive job.
Well, you're just not justwalking in and say, hey, sell
some cars, probably have fun.
Yeah, sell them, give some highfives, go upstairs have coffee.

Robby (42:29):
You're running the showroom.

George (42:30):
Okay, so why'd you leave ?

Robby (42:36):
Why did you leave?

George (42:37):
Yeah, why did you start your business?
Why did you get out?

Robby (42:44):
Because I was always in the.
I always felt like there's gotto be more.

George (42:47):
Yeah, so there is, yeah, okay, more what.

Robby (42:52):
More than what I was doing.
I was like, oh, I've got verylike.
Is this it Like?
Like, even when I was 22, 23,like, and I was doing well, I
was like, is this it like this?
Is it that's it forever?
That's it like this desk,everything like.
You know what I mean and Iwould be freaked.

(43:13):
I would freak and that's why Iwent and did real estate.
I was like, all right, fuck it.
Like, if we're going to go andI think at the time this was my
line I was like I was going toget into sales, yeah, but then I
was like, why sell biscuits ifyou can sell cakes?

George (43:28):
Yeah.

Robby (43:29):
So I went and did sales in real estate.
Why sell cars if I could sellhouses?
Yeah, worth multiple cars, 10,15 cars.
Why would I do this?
And so like, did it make sense?
Yeah, I was like, cool, I'll gosell houses.
Um yeah, I just felt likethere's got to be more and I
guess the one thing I waspushing for and hoping you were
going to say was the amountbusiness will teach you about

(43:51):
yourself.

George (43:52):
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it does.
It does fucking earth, it doesdude.
I think my character hasdefinitely matured and changed
as a result of running abusiness of course it would be.

Robby (44:04):
I don't know anyone who goes in and comes out.
Yeah, and it's like I'm sayingthat was easy yeah, yeah, that
all that was.
That didn't change my life atall yeah, yeah, that's such a
great way.

George (44:14):
It definitely changed my life, of course.
100 it develops.
You's such a great way.
It definitely has changed mylife, of course 100%.

Robby (44:18):
It develops you as a human dude.
Yep, they're everything thewins, the losses, the fucking
losses, the stressful moments,the times where I did a video
about this the other day and Isaid you can have the greatest
month in the world with yourbusiness.
You can have a great month.
I, you can have the greatestmonth in the world with your
business, like you can have agreat month.
I said there's, fuck man, likewe're on top of the world.

(44:39):
And then, like 48 hours later,I said, damn, I'm going to burn
this whole fucking house down.
Like I fucking so over thisshit, over this, over the.
You know what I mean?
Uh, and that can be like aslittle as a 48 hour window.
Um, and I think those momentsdefine your character.

(45:00):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like they really, really putyou in a position where you know
, when your back's against thewall, mm-hmm, it's like you
never get that as an employee.
That's right, you never getthat as an employee.
You're like you know what?
Fuck it, I'll fucking go up theroad and I'm sure they'll take
me.
As fuck it, I'll fucking go upthe road and I'm sure they'll
take me.
As a business owner, you can'tdo that.
There's no, I'll go up the roadand I'm sure they'll take me.

(45:21):
It's kind of like hey, I needto keep the fucking lights on.
Yeah, you know what I mean, andI reckon that is one of the key
things that you can't get fromworking for someone like the
that level of pressure.
Yeah, without a doubt, without adoubt that level of I've got

(45:43):
rent due and there's no moneyand I've got nothing coming in
and it's like, hmm, we're fucked.
That you know like that?
It's that, that, yeah, I reckonthat's the one thing that you
cannot, doesn't, isn'ttransferable zero, because when
you the security as an employee,it's, it's there.

(46:09):
No matter how much pressurethere is with the role and blah,
blah, blah, and it's like, okay, cool, we're in a high role
here.
Yeah, like there's always thatlevel level of I can switch off.

George (46:20):
Without a doubt.
I remember switching off.

Robby (46:25):
Oh, dude, I had a term for it, it's called holiday mode
.

George (46:28):
I just remember I used to say it I was always able to
put my cup down at the end ofthe day as an employee.
So what I mean by that?
I don't know if you ever sawthis analogy where it's like if
you hold a glass of water justat 90 degrees, like this, the
whole time it's fine.
It's fine for five minutes,it's fine for half an hour, but

(46:49):
after an hour like yourshoulder's starting to burn,
After two hours like you'reshaking, After three hours like
you're trying to hold it up withyour other hand, it's really
hard, Whereas at the end of theday you're just like put your
cup down.
You don't have to hold the cupanymore.
Your stresses, your issues,your pains, they're all there on
the table.
Then pick the cup up tomorrowmorning.

(47:09):
As an employee, I used to dothat all the time.
I used to be working hard, highpressure job, got paid, knew
the bank, knew the money was inthe account.
Every month.
Just bang At nighttime, 5.30, 6o'clock.
Whenever I left, cup was down.
Go home and that's it.
No phone calls, no, nothing,yeah, you could literally I

(47:30):
could switch off.
I just whatever.
I'll do whatever I want.
Go play PlayStation, hang outwith mates, go anything,
anything I wanted to do, Whereasnow it's a completely different
ballgame.
You're like oh shit, I've gotto do this in the morning.
Oh, I've got to send that off.
Oh, better forget, better notforget.
Better email myself now, so Idon't forget.
It's a lot.
It's a different game.

(47:50):
I walked in here talking abouta business thing.
When I walked in, I was saying,oh, I've got to do this, this,
this and this.
And you're like, yeah, what aproblem, what a problem to have.
You don't have that as anemployee.

Robby (48:04):
You definitely don't have that as an employee, but you
don't get the other side of it.
That's right.
I've shared that analogy beforeof the straight line and it's
like the more ups, the personwho becomes a billionaire and
goes broke drops further thanthe person who's always been
broke.
So it's like life is a straightline and the further you go up,
the further you can go down.

(48:24):
And the further you go down,the further you can go up, and
it's like it expands thathorizon for you and it makes the
ups way more.
Because, fuck, winning whenit's your own thing is like the
greatest thing.
That's what I mean.

George (48:38):
That's why I said I love the winning, so that's why,
when I'm having the losses, itdoesn't deter me from getting up
the next morning and goingagain.
Yeah.

Robby (48:46):
Yeah, but also winning like winning, you adjust to the
level of winning.
Yes, Do you know what I mean?
And winning is winning Like.
I remember winning as a realestate agent and that was some
of the best wins I've ever had.
I remember this is sick.

George (49:05):
Hmm.

Robby (49:08):
One time I spoke at Ray White, yeah, and had a dispute
with the boss and left.
And when I joined the differentagency in the same area took my
whole database with me.
This is all people I've beencontacting.
I'm taking them with me.
So I took my whole databasewith me and joined the new
company, uploaded my wholedatabase, punching out calls,

(49:30):
Fuck.
I used to talk on the phone alot and I called this guy and
he's like and I was off for likethree months.
In between I had no one pointin my life.
I had no job.
Yeah Right, I played NBA 2K somuch.
It was like a three month.
Oh funny, yeah, oh funny, Dude,it was sick Anyway.
I don't think I've ever had thatI've had that once in my whole

(49:50):
adult life, from 18.
I had like a three month windowat 26 where I wasn't working.
Yeah, and I got a new job and Iwent and I, you know, I was
keen, dude, like I'm hungry,like let's go.
Just go.
Remember calling 100 calls, 100calls.
And I knew where I kneweveryone from, like oh yeah,
this guy I met at this open.
I had all my notes in thesystem and I called this guy and

(50:11):
his name was George.
What a guy, george, what a guyFunny.
And his name was George and hegoes hey, george, it's Robbie
from blah, blah, blah, um.
And then he's like Robbie.
And I'm like, yeah, he's likeused to work at Ray White.
And I'm like, yeah, he's likefuck man, I've been looking for
you and I work for anothercompany now.

(50:39):
So I'm like, hey, come on, man.
Now you know we're talkingabout this Barley's like.
I was like listen, at least geta check.
Like just just compare, that'sall.
You got nothing to lose.
Yeah, so it's don't want to befirst, you want to be last.

(51:03):
Yeah, because unless the firstperson can close, generally if
they've got other appointmentsthey won't sign.
So don't book yourself firstbecause if last I book myself
after get a call on the morningof mate ray, white ray came last
night.
I'm just gonna go with him.
Blah, blah, blah, and I waslike no, no, have you signed?
He's like nah.
I was like, dude, just let mecome tonight, please, please,
like just let me go, and it'slike yeah's like yeah, yeah, all
right, cool, he's like justcome, whatever.
So I go there that night, I'min the car, I look at myself in
the mirror and I remember sayingto myself he needs to go with

(51:23):
you because you're the betteragent.
Like, you're the better agent,you're the better agent, you're
the better loss.
I was so committed there.
Anyway, went in, signed him.
Yeah, dude, I got out.
I've never punched my steeringwheel so hard in my whole
fucking life that is one of thegreatest wins I've ever had in

(51:47):
my whole life, cause I was sopumped to shove it in his face.
I couldn't wait for him to callit.
I even said do you want me tocall him and tell him?
Cause I couldn't wait for himto call and say I've gone with
Robbie.
Yeah, and he would have beenlike fuck Robbie's back.
Honestly, I don't know if I'vehad a bigger win.
That was one of the biggestwins, dude.

(52:09):
I was so fucking pumped.
I ate a kebab after it.
It was the greatest, as you dowith all wins.
Of course it was sick.
It was sick.
That was one of the greatestwins I've ever had.
I can't get that feeling.

George (52:24):
But it was sick, dude it was really.

Robby (52:28):
It was in a pressured position.
New role was gonna lose thisand I knew I had this in the bag
when I was there and I wasgoing to lose it because I left.

George (52:38):
Yeah.

Robby (52:39):
And my old boss was going to take it from me and I didn't
like him and it was like,backed against the wall, let's
go.
And I came out swinging and itworked Very good.
Best feeling.
But yeah, you do get put intothat position more often in a
business.
So what do you like aboutbusiness?

(52:59):
I like what I've learned.
I've liked the habits it'staught me.
I like the person I've become.

George (53:10):
Good.

Robby (53:29):
I like the leadership that's required, you know, and
the level of, not force, but thelevel of responsibility that
you must take on, Are you?

George (53:37):
you're more introverted.

Robby (53:38):
Me.

George (53:39):
Yeah, massively.
So it forces you to come out ofthat shell a little bit too,
yeah yes, yes and no, yes, yeah,I guess um well.
Just, it's like your battery atthe end of the day.
Introverted doesn't mean younever want to speak to people.
It just means it drains youmore than it might drain someone

(54:01):
else.

Robby (54:01):
That's extroverted I I'd never want to speak to people
that's that are extroverted nah,nah, just period, just be just
nah.
Um, yeah, you're right.
Like after we do an event, I,I'm cooked yeah, that's a big
diet, so, cooked Like I, just Idon't want to talk to anyone,
don't want to see anyone.
Let me lay down and eat threedouble cheeseburgers.
Yeah, but I think it forces youto go do some things.

(54:25):
I think what you were gettingat was like get out of your
comfort zone.

George (54:29):
Yeah, to a degree, yeah, and I think it forces you to do
, but you've got to talk, likeit's always talking, it's always
connecting with people.
You know you've got to talk toyour clients.
You've got to talk to youremployees.
You've got to talk to heaps ofpeople.

Robby (54:39):
Yeah, AI agents.

George (54:47):
Yeah, ai agents I was using speaking of check this out
, and I asked her the question,but then I kept going.
I said this is what I'mthinking, this is what I'm
thinking, this is what I'mthinking.
She's like yeah, that's great.
And she was blown away by theresponses Because it's quite
funny.
It's like you're talking to aperson.
Yeah, I have 27-minuteconversations.
Yeah, the event, this is whatwe're doing, this is what I'm

(55:09):
thinking.
What do you think?
I even spoke to it because I'vegot an American male's voice
online and it was saying ums andahs in the conversation.
It was like, yeah, I reckonthat'll be really good.
I was like, hey, stop, I go.
I'm assuming you're putting umsand ahs in your vocab because

(55:31):
you're wanting to sound morehuman-like.
I need you to stop that.
I want you to speak clearly andI don't want you to use ums and
ahs Because I don't want topick that up in my own speech
habits when I'm talking from you.
If I'm going to talk to you, Iwant you to be nice, clear,
precise with your words.
Don't use ums and ahs, becauseI speak on stage.
I don't want to talk like thatwhen I'm talking on the podcast
or when I'm talking to people,and I want you to speak nice and

(55:53):
clear.
He's like okay, yeah, thanksfor the feedback on that.
I'll definitely take that onboard and not have those breaks
in my speech.
I'm like okay, good, because Iused to work with a guy that
used to speak like that.
They're like bad, real Aussieguy, g'day mate.
How are you going?
Real Aussie guy, g'day mate.
And how are you going?
Had a really good weekend.

Robby (56:14):
And like you would just a whole time.
It's one of those things aswell, when you notice it.
Yeah, you can't.

George (56:18):
But then I've started picking that up in my own vocab
as well.
I started saying a lot and,yeah, it was good to stop that.
But it's interesting, man, it'sinteresting talking to it.
I was going through a wholerange of things and you still
have to prompt it in a way tosay no, no, I need you to go
deeper.
You're giving me stuff Ialready know.
I need to know something thatI'm not thinking of.

Robby (56:41):
But you've got to do it with humans anyway.

George (56:42):
Yeah, yeah, but a lot of humans don't know the answer.
This is probably something thatdoes know it.

Robby (56:51):
You just have to get it out of it.
Yeah, but no, hold on.
So you don't think half thehumans know the answer and you
just got to extract it from them.
Like you ever had an employeedo something.
And you're like that's notright.
And they're like I know how todo it.
And then you're like, well,what else could you do?
And they're like I could do.
And then you're like, oh, seethat you did that yourself.
I just prompted you.

George (57:11):
Yeah, I do that with my kids sometimes.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
It's kind of like it's like Ican't do that.
My son says I can't do that.
I said, if I give you right now, $ goes, oh, I can't paint that

(57:33):
.
I'm looking at it.
I go, you can paint that.
I didn't say it's easy, it'sgoing to be more difficult, but
you can paint that.
He's like oh, no, I can't dothis, because I have to stand
here and then I have to leanover.
It wasn't dangerous or anything.
You had to paint behind acupboard.
I'm like, mate, if I and I saidthis if I give you a million

(57:53):
dollars right now, right now, Isaid paint that wall, are you
going to paint it?
Could you paint it?
He goes yes, I could.
Then you can do it.
You're just choosing not tobecause it's a little bit hard
basket.
Anyway, side note.

Robby (58:08):
Prompting helps.
Prompting does help, but, yes,you do have to speak with your
people.
Side note Prompting helps,prompting does help, prompting
does help, but, yes, you do haveto speak with your people, your
employees, your team.
Yep.

George (58:18):
I like that.
You know I went out andsearched to become.
You know it was talking aboutyou change as a person, but I
actually sought to be better.
I went out and sought peopleand things to become a better
version of myself.
So I like that.
I don't think I ever would havedone that had I been an
employee.
To be honest, like we met at anevent yeah, we met at an event

(58:44):
and I met other people at eventsas well that we've become
friends with too and connectedwith from a business perspective
too.

Robby (58:53):
Why did you feel the need to make sure that there was
other people?
Yeah, there was other peoplethere.

George (58:58):
Oh, because I don't want them to feel left out, because
I know they all listen to thepodcast, because they're my
friends.
I only have a few.
All three, all three of them.
So I know for a fact if I wasan employee I wouldn't have come
to any of those events.
I wouldn't.
Yeah, I was.
Again.
I told you I was arrogant.
I had this belief when I wasworking at Multiplex that I

(59:18):
needed, I did not need toself-educate anymore because I
was just going to be the bestbuilder.
Not knowing becoming the bestbuilder would have been through
self-education, like books andconnecting with other people and
whatever it might be, and Ithought I would just learn and
master the craft.

Robby (59:34):
You know what's interesting about that?
I would.
I did so.
I went when I was working atRay White.
Funnily enough, this has allhappened around the same time.
Do you know how committed I wasto my development when I left

(59:55):
Ray White?
When I was at Ray White, I wentto an event called the Success
Summit where they had Chris Judd.
Yeah, yeah, I told you this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I went to that event andthere was this dude there, bald
guy, selling a sales program.
I bought it and it was calledMillion Dollar Agent Bootcamp.
Yeah, okay, this is 2017-ishand I left Ray White and I still

(01:00:18):
went to the boot camp.
Dude.
Yeah, do you know what I mean.
Yeah, without a job.

George (01:00:22):
Without a job.

Robby (01:00:22):
Yeah, I still went.
It was in Brisbane.
Yeah, right, yeah, I had to flyto Brisbane, still went without
a job and went and sat down inthis three-day program by myself
and went into a room full ofpeople.
I had no idea who anyone wasand just sat down and had no job
.
But I was still prepared andcommitted to becoming an agent.
I won a $1,500 voucher throughthe place where I work, at

(01:00:47):
Jell's Craig, and they're likewhat do you want to spend it on?
And I was like would you guysput it towards a Tony Robbins
thing?
They're like, yeah, and that'show I got my Tony Robbins ticket
.
I topped it up and I went toTony Robbins for that.
So I was like always there wasalways some level of willingness
.
I didn't seek it.

George (01:01:04):
but I reckon, had I had a friend that said, hey, come, I
probably would have gone thenand then maybe dived into it a
bit more.
But yeah, having a businessforced me to level up you know
what's funny?

Robby (01:01:16):
You went to uni and I didn't.
That's right.

George (01:01:20):
Yeah, absolutely.
You went through the educationround, yeah, and it's like I
didn't.
I honestly think that wasdetrimental in that aspect of my
thinking.
Do you have any kids to go touni.
Well, how interesting.
You say that because Nicolenever went to uni and she wants
her kids to go to uni and she'sasked me.
I said I went to uni and I'mlike I'm indifferent.
If they want to become a doctor, yes, Go to uni.

(01:01:43):
Okay, there's probably certainthings that you need that
tertiary education for, but doyou need to go to university to
be successful?
No, you don't.

Robby (01:01:55):
Yeah, but I think everyone knows that at this
point, at this point you have to.

George (01:02:00):
You know we had a family lunch on the weekend and the
whole topic of AI came up and sofunny, I just got to tell you
about my dad.
It was so funny.
Anyway, he was talking towhat's the Google version,
gemini, gemini, he's got aGemini and he's got the paid
version of that.
And he starts asking Geminiquestions on the phone his Greek

(01:02:20):
accent and stuff and then hegoes oh, someone asked him does
it speak Greek?
He goes.
Oh, he goes, I'll ask it.
And then he starts speakingGreek and it responds in Greek.
Anyway, he was freaking out.
Everyone's laughing at thequestions he's asking.
It was pretty funny Anyway, butwe're going along the path.
I actually started to talk aboutAI agents and you're much more

(01:02:45):
knowledgeable in that space, soI was just very high level.
But I was telling him.
I said there's stuff that'scoming up.
Now I go, our kids are likelygoing to need to be good at
managing agents when they growup, as opposed to doing the
actual do.
That's the reality of where theworld's headed at the moment,
and there are some older people.

(01:03:05):
They're like oh no, how arethey going to do that?
They're going to replace people.
I said no, no, it's not goingto replace people.
It's like with the industrialrevolution, I said everyone used
to dig the fields with a shoveluntil they bought a tractor in.
Everyone used to lose theirmind and go oh, how are we all
going to live?
You're going to change.
Everyone's going to evolve.
It's going to be different waysof doing things.
That's what you're going tohave to do.

(01:03:25):
That's what they're going tohave to do.
I said but jobs like accountingare probably in danger, like
you're not going to want tobecome an accountant.
If my son was 18 now and hegoes, dad, I want to be an
accountant.
I'm like oi, I can treadcarefully, choose your trade,
because it could be that couldbe obsolete.

Robby (01:03:48):
That's going to be obsolete.

George (01:03:49):
You know what I mean.
It's like here's my numbers,here's my information.
Can you calculate my BAS?
Yeah, it's like, yeah, here itis Done, done and it's accurate.

Robby (01:03:58):
There's no fucking mistakes.
It's not going to cost you 270.
It's going to cost you 27 cents.

George (01:04:02):
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, you can.
Can you lodge it to the ATO?
Yeah, no worries, done, sent it.
Can you send me a receipt?
Can you see me in the email?
Yeah, no problem.

Robby (01:04:12):
What You're going to talk to yourself.
I feel the connection.

George (01:04:16):
I feel a connection to them.
Yeah, yeah, dude.
So I was talking about thatwith them because we were
talking about well, what are thekids going to do?
They're not going to uni.
I don't know what they want todo with their lives, but
whatever they're going to do,it's a new way of thinking about

(01:04:41):
it.

Robby (01:04:41):
Now, yeah, someone was telling me they know someone who
their sister's in uni and she'slike learning how to code and
stuff.
And he's trying to tell herlike hey, like you're going to
get replaced, like stop, likeyou're going to be one of the
first people.
Yeah, yeah, exactly You'regoing to be one of the first
things to get replaced.
You need to stop learning whatyou're learning.
It's going to become irrelevant, completely irrelevant.

George (01:05:04):
But yeah, so you don't want to understand code, though,
no, so there's a whole term,now called vibe coding, which is
the ability to code throughnatural language.

Robby (01:05:15):
I don't understand what you just said.
That's how I feel when I saycode, the ability to code
through natural language.
So you can say, hey, I need acode that does this and it goes,
bleh yeah, and then you get thecode.

George (01:05:26):
And what do you use that code for?

Robby (01:05:29):
It depends on what you're trying to do, so you usually
use it to communicate from thingto thing.
It's like a script Okay, youknow what I mean.
So it's like you're going toget this to talk to that, or
this is what it spat out.
It's like it's either an inputor an output.
You know what I mean.
And it's like this is what itspat out and you're like you can
turn it into normal, so it usedto be people there with

(01:05:49):
pressing a computer and pressingdots and yeah, yeah, yeah,
serious, it makes sense when youunderstand it.
Yeah, I just Don't know it.
No, like there's.
Sometimes you can look at itand be like, oh yeah, I can see,
like that's where the name isand that's where.
Like, if you, if you look atcode, you can see where the
parts that you they're writtenin there somewhere.
But vibe coding is the abilityto code without knowing how to

(01:06:13):
code.
That's new.
Yeah, people are doing it, Ican do it.
I do it all the time I don'tknow how to code.
There you go, yeah, and it'slike that skill is.

George (01:06:23):
Being a coder was like so sought after right, yeah,
well, think about mybrother-in-law was saying cause,
he's an agent.
And he was saying, yeah, realestate agent, not an AI agent,
not an AI agent, he's a realagent, he's a real person, he's
a real estate.
But he was saying he used to hehe hates you should get him on.

Robby (01:06:40):
You should get him on.
Yeah, I will Come, on, come nowHe'll.

George (01:06:43):
Now he's a very cigar-sick type podcast.
Oh, without a doubt, I'm down.
You smoke a cigar in here, me?
Yeah, I smoke a cigar.
I don't mind the smell, but Iwouldn't smoke it in here.
But he'll definitely go sick.

(01:07:04):
I hear he gets smoky, half awhite smoke above us.
Anyway, he was saying that hewrites copy for, or he used to
pay someone $200 to an ad towrite all the copy for their ads
, for the listings, for thatsort of shit.
He goes I'll just put it inChatJBT.
Yeah, he goes, I'll just writeit like that.
He goes, I'll tell it what Iwant and he just writes it and

(01:07:25):
he's used the free version too.
He doesn't even pay for it.
And then, on top of that, hegoes.
I'm not really good with emails, as in.
He doesn't.
He'll type like this, like onefinger at a time, and he doesn't
.
He's not, he doesn't.
He often doesn't get throughclear, he goes.
Now I just put it into the chat.
Someone sends me an email, hegoes.
Can you respond to this?
This is how I want you to do.
It Responds copy paste, bang.
Alright, so he's using it atits basic function, but there's

(01:07:55):
a job that's obsoletecopywriting.
Yeah, dude, and that's justfrom chat.
Do you want me to buzz you out?

Robby (01:08:00):
Yeah, you did when I walked in here today as well.
I don't have.
Instagram on Ah, let's see one.
I'm pretty sure I could bewrong, but I'm pretty sure.
In the video I did six weeksafter chat gpt came out, I said
at the end that copywriters arein trouble.
Oh, did you?

George (01:08:19):
yeah, very cool because I actually think you did, I
think I recall that and havingthat conversation, yeah, yeah,
and I said, copywriters are introuble.

Robby (01:08:26):
And now, now I'm saying bookkeepers are in trouble.
Like I'm telling you right now,bookkeepers are in trouble.
Like I'm telling you right now,bookkeepers are fucked.
Yeah, like you're going to be.
Ah man, I can't go down arabbit hole.

George (01:08:40):
If you're a bookkeeper, go learn a new skill Now, don't
wait Right now or learn how tomanage agents really well yeah.

Robby (01:08:48):
Or that or that.
But I also think that Xero isgoing to just have its own agent
and just be like oh cool, youknow how your subscription was
$90?
Well, now it's $120, but youdon't need a bookkeeper, yeah.
And you're like sick.
Yeah, and that sounds great.
And then it'll be $200 and youdon't need to count it.
And then you're like sick, yeah, of course I'll give zero more

(01:09:15):
money, yeah.
Yeah, there's the game, that'sthe game, yeah.
And then they just startswallowing everything they can.
That's a might make everysecond episode about am.

George (01:09:24):
I think we should yeah, yeah, I want to.
I want to probably get a littlebit more educated in it too and
I'll send you heaps of stuffyeah, I was even thinking about
just not building an agent, butlearning how to do.
You know what I mean, just so Ican understand it better.
I was looking at doingsomething like that.
I think you should Doing abasic one.

Robby (01:09:40):
I think you should.
I think it is a good experience, just so that when there is
some level of involvement, youcan say cool, it'd be like
having a Facebook account beforeyou started posting ads.
You know what I mean?
Because you're like, okay, cool, yeah, now I understand how it
works to copy the creative blah,blah, blah, as opposed to I've
never been on Facebook, butwe're running Facebook ads.

(01:10:01):
And then you're like, yeah, noidea, you know what?

George (01:10:03):
I mean so I?

Robby (01:10:05):
think there is definitely some level of benefit, of
benefit and, for those of youwho don't know, we're actually
going to be sharing a lot ofthis online.
We're going to be sharingeverything from this aspect, not
just from the agent aspect.
Everything, george, everything.

(01:10:26):
Like when I say everything,everything, no, come on
Everything.
You can't Spell it A-V.

George (01:10:30):
You couldn't spell.
You can't everything.
No, come on Every.
You can't Spell it A, B.
You couldn't spell.
You can't do everything.
You do.
How to build agents, you doeverything, you do all that Like
.
People charge to do that andyou're giving it away.

Robby (01:10:41):
For free Shit Literally every single thing, it can't
possibly be worth anything.
Hey, what are your thoughts ondoing a?
This is now he's going to turninto a conversation we'd have
off air.
Yeah, what are your thoughts ondoing a AI webinar?
Oh, that's it.

George (01:11:01):
Just with all the stuff I've been learning.
Yeah, yeah, it's like cool man.

Robby (01:11:04):
This is the thing, this is the model, these are the
agents.
This is how it works.

George (01:11:07):
Yep, this is how it works.
Yep, I've actually had a fewpeople email me or, sorry,
message me on social media.
Post our AI podcast.

Robby (01:11:15):
Yeah, it's not a lie.
They messaged me though.

George (01:11:17):
Yeah, I can understand them messaging you.
They were messaging me sayingno, that AI shit is awesome.
I said here.
I just sent him your Instagram.
I said speak with Robbie, he'llsort you out.

Robby (01:11:26):
I'll tell you what I'm noticing, and anyone listening
to this, take this as thebiggest hint in the world.
Everyone is excited to talkabout it.
No one's willing to do shit.
They're all still like, ah,like, oh, you know, like that's
still, ah, it's still.
Yeah, guess what, if I came toyou in 2009 and I said, hey man,

(01:11:48):
you should fucking make somevideos about your business,
you'd be like no man.
I'm not doing that, and nowit's 22.
I'm not going to go on camera,I'm not going to tape myself.
No one cares about my business.
You look so happy.

George (01:12:02):
I was just laughing, because I put up a post the
other day speaking aboutInstagram and I copped a lot of
shit for it.
You did, yeah, for my family.
That's a dumb post take it down, I'm embarrassed.
Which one?
It wasn't even a bad one fromyour family, yeah, like my
sister-in-law and brother-in-lawand people like that's it.
That's the one about the car.
Did you see that one withnicole?

(01:12:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was composed.
I thought it was a good placetoo.
And she's like she goes that'sembarrassing.
I go hey, okay, forgive me mefor not taking advice from
fucking someone.
She just thought it was cringe.
I think she thought I posted iton my personal page, not my
business one.
Yeah, and I said you don't buyanything from me anyway.

(01:12:44):
This wasn't fucking for you.
Unfollow, you're giving me shit, you come to that.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
You're gonna get that, though,but back then, if, in 2009, if
you started creating videos, itsays hey, hey, yeah, you would
have cop shit, yeah, but that'sthat is.

Robby (01:13:02):
I was having a conversation with someone about
this and they said, yeah, wejust need it to be more tangible
, like we need to see theresults.
We need to see that.
And I said, hey, when peoplestarted running Facebook ads in
2011, there was no fuckingresults.
Yeah, they just started.
This is that then, yeah, biggernow.
And it's like you can either bethe first to do it and blow up,

(01:13:23):
or you can turn around and sayI'm waiting for someone else to
do it so they can blow up andthen I can follow.

George (01:13:29):
Yeah, I think it'll do really well.
I even think it'll do reallywell as a live event too.

Robby (01:13:37):
I thought about it.
I thought about it, yeah.

George (01:13:39):
No, I really do.
Might do it, I might.
Let us know I'll buy a ticket.
Let us know I'll fucking buy aticket.

Robby (01:13:45):
I might, I might G-Up and make it free.

George (01:13:47):
Don't.
I want to buy it, at least havea VIP option.
Hey, at least have a VIP option.
Might Come on, and then theycan get like an agent.

Robby (01:14:02):
Maybe that's a, thing, george.

George (01:14:05):
We're playing small.
We're coaching builders andtrades how to run successful
businesses, but maybe we've gotto tell you how the agents
agents can do it better than youlet us know.

Robby (01:14:14):
Let us know if, uh, if, we did do an event, an ai and
we'll fucking do it.

George (01:14:19):
Yeah, I'll do it.

Robby (01:14:20):
I'll do it monday, right, I'm there, um, we'll do an
event and, uh, let us know ifit's something you'd like to see
, because, you know, funnilyenough, dude, I did have someone
say to me I can't wait to cometo your social media AI event
today.
Uh, he probably was listeningto this, who said that and, um,
it's become to the event yeah.
I said like, yeah, what's?

(01:14:40):
When is your social media AIevent?
And I said there is no event.
Then he said this one oh dude,I got sidetracked before when I
was saying that whole thingabout putting it on for free.

George (01:14:51):
Oh yeah.

Robby (01:14:51):
So I better plug it right now, before I forget, let's do
it.
So we might hold an event, wemight not, but one thing that's
going to happen for sure is I'vecreated an online.
Well, I'm creating an onlinecommunity where we're going to
share every single and when Isay every single, I mean
everything.
George, Like there's a part ofme that's a bit scared.

(01:15:15):
I won't lie.

George (01:15:16):
I might even sign up.

Robby (01:15:18):
I'm a little bit concerned, not for, like it's
kind of like putting it all outthere Like for real, no holding
back.
Yeah, as in Everything,everything I've ever learned AI,
copy automation, crm systems,like all the brand content
creation, like everything how wegot this up.

(01:15:40):
You know, like I'm gonna shareeverything and it's gonna be all
online and it's gonna be allfor free, and I've given it a
pretty cool name yeah, yeah, Iactually don't know this I I'm
calling it the CMO Playbook.

George (01:15:52):
CMO what's CMO stand?

Robby (01:15:53):
for Chief Marketing.

George (01:15:54):
Officer.
Chief Marketing Officer.

Robby (01:15:56):
So it's the CMO Playbook, so we're marketeers.

George (01:15:59):
I like that word.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Point it.

Robby (01:16:02):
Copyright and Trademark.
We're sharing everything.
If you want to learn how to dothat in your business, you can
go to cmoplaybookai and join thewait list and as soon as it's
available you'll get an emailand you'll be first in first in
best dressed.
Yep Take the action, take theaction and let us know if you

(01:16:23):
want us to do an event we mightdo live in person.

George (01:16:27):
Honestly, if we do the event, I will.
I will gear up like amotherfucker.
Yeah, maybe we just I'm serious, I'll quit my building role and
just become an AI expert.

Robby (01:16:37):
I'm going to become a builder.

George (01:16:40):
Well, you heard it here first.

Robby (01:16:42):
Yeah, I saw it play out live.
Now, if you see ads running forit, you'll know where it
happened.
That's right.
But yeah, what else should theydo?
George?
Look, we state the obvious.
How cool is it going to be whenyou get your AI agent to
subscribe?
Get what?
Get your AI agent to subscribe?

George (01:17:00):
Oh, yeah, and you're like Julia?

Robby (01:17:03):
subscribe to these channels.

George (01:17:04):
Hurry up, it's going to be great.
Yeah, I can't wait, man.
I can't wait to see it inaction.
I can't wait to startimplementing it as well.
It's just with everything, it'sas you said they want to see
the tangible thing first.
I'm like by that stage it's toolate.

Robby (01:17:19):
Yeah, it's like get on early, man, Move in early.

George (01:17:23):
Gary Vaynerchuk is talking about it too, yeah.

Robby (01:17:31):
No, no, no, dude, listen to me, Listen to me.
I'm going to go on record andsay this this is the.
You know how.
We weren't sure how it wasgoing to change the world.
Yeah, this is the thing.
This is the thing.
When you walked past my officeand I'd found out about this
over the weekend, I called youinto my office and said sit down
.
And I was like this is it?
Like everyone's talking aboutthe change, how it's going to
change us, how it's going tothis is it.

George (01:17:53):
Like this is it?
I completely agree when youtold me I was blown away.

Robby (01:17:58):
Oh, dude, when I saw it I was like I kind of clicked,
Because even I've been sharingAI tools and talking about it
the whole time, but I never knewwhat the disruption was going
to be.

George (01:18:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Robby (01:18:10):
I couldn't quite.
I'm like, okay, cool, but howare we going to?
But how are we?
And then it's like now, okay,now it's very clear, this is it,
this is.
I look at my plant differently,very differently, because soon
we're going to be looked at likeplants, very soon.

George (01:18:30):
How fun.
Anyway, until that time, youmanually have to subscribe to
this channel.
You can't actually get your AIagent unless you are a trend
setter setting the world on fire, and your agent can subscribe
to this channel and hook you upwith all the latest episodes and
everything we do week in, weekout.
But, as always, we want you tobe a part of the community, we

(01:18:52):
want you to be here as part ofthe Million Dollar Days family
and we appreciate you forlistening in and cannot wait
till next week.

Robby (01:19:02):
This whole episode was made with an.
Ai.
I can't wait to say that thiswhole thing was done by AI.

George (01:19:08):
Oh man, you sent me you go check your WhatsApp.
When I walked in this evening.
You go check your WhatsApp.
I'm like what is it?
And it's a photo, it's a videoof me, and I sent it to my wife
too.
It was a video of me, but Inever made the video.
Never made the video.
How good is it?
You literally uploaded a stillimage and then you probably put
some prompts into it.

(01:19:28):
Say still image and then youprobably put some prompts into
it.
So you get him to do this and Idid it.
I turned to the camera, I didthat.
I'm like, fuck, that's amazing.

Robby (01:19:33):
I've got all different.
That is amazing, and it wasn'teven me, ones of you swearing,
ones of you being racist Heaps.

George (01:19:39):
Yeah, hang on.
We're talking about the realones, or the, or the made up
ones.

Robby (01:19:47):
There's so many I don't remember.
I should do that more often.

George (01:19:50):
I should do that.
That's it.
Well, we haven't spoken about acontroversial topic in a while.
We'll try to figure one out.
I'll figure one out.
Yeah, next episode will behighly controversial.
You might want to tune intothat one.

Robby (01:20:04):
A great marketing thing.
I've been listening to a bookby Stephen Bartlett again, the
33 Laws of Life and Business,his book the Diary of a CEO a
new one, or is it the old one?
One came out like a year and ahalf ago.
Oh, is it the same book?
oh, okay listen to it again,yeah, and he says your marketing
has a job.
It has to make them feelsomething.
Don't be afraid to upset people.
Yeah, it's like the worstmarketing is the one that's

(01:20:26):
neutral.
Yeah, yeah, it's either goingto win some people over or make
them hate you.
You should polarize people.
Yeah, so let's polarize peopledamn straight.

George (01:20:35):
Thank you so much for tuning in guys.
See you next week.

Robby (01:20:38):
Thanks everybody hey, I'm telling you this fucking
agent's not a fucking joke, butum the real deal, sort of gold,
oh no I'll buy.

George (01:20:50):
No, it's still to me.
Yeah, sell it to a random.

Robby (01:20:54):
Yeah, like to sell one, like sell it probably.

George (01:20:57):
Yeah.

Robby (01:20:58):
And start building the whole process around it.
Yeah, fucking 915.
Huh, that was a long episode.
Oh, it was probably just overan hour.
We started at seven 50.

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