What Would It Take to Fix Australia? A Raw Conversation

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The cultural fabric of Australia is being stretched as citizens plan nationwide rallies against immigration policies, but is the real issue deeper than border control? This raw, unfiltered conversation examines the growing frustration many Australians feel toward governance and decision-making that seems increasingly disconnected from everyday people.

When a government spends $330,000 on a single machete surrender bin while racking up $196 billion in national debt over a decade, something is fundamentally broken in the system. We explore how Australia, despite being the third-largest exporter of fossil fuels globally, fails to capitalize on its natural resources in ways that could generate significant national wealth. This missed opportunity stands in stark contrast to other resource-rich nations that leverage similar assets to secure their economic futures.

Beyond economic mismanagement, we dive into the cultural shifts taking place across Australian society. From excessive political correctness in sports to debates about cultural assimilation, there's a sense that the country is losing touch with its core identity. Yet through all these frustrations runs a deep appreciation for what makes Australia special – the safety, lifestyle, and opportunities that still draw people from around the world.

This conversation captures the complex mixture of affection and frustration many Australians feel – loving their country while increasingly worried about its direction. At what point does simmering discontent transform into meaningful action? As one participant suggests, perhaps Australia needs its own version of the French farmers who dumped manure at parliament to force policy change. The fundamental question remains: what would it take for you to stand up and demand better?

Episode Transcript

Robby (00:01):
Good country, australia.
Do you know who coined thatterm?
No, no one knows, because hedied and no one cares.

George (00:10):
I don't care, I'm not even going to Google it.

Robby (00:15):
I'll Google it right now, just for shits and giggles.

George (00:20):
I'm assuming.
Do you reckon it was animmigrant that would have said
something like that?
An immigrant, yeah.
I could imagine them saying itin an accent Of course Good
country, Australia.
A hundred percent.
I don't know what accent thatis.

Robby (00:36):
That's like a Slovakian or something.
Yeah, that's it Slovakian.
Yeah, Slovakian.
Who made that term?
The term the lucky country foraustralia was coined by author
donald horn.

George (00:53):
Someone asked there you go, there you go.

Robby (00:56):
Learn something new every day who said good country,
australia first First.
Yeah, it doesn't seem to bevery specific.

George (01:10):
Yeah.

Robby (01:12):
Anyway, it is a good country.

George (01:15):
Yes, I agree.
I agree, I like living here.
I have a level of frustrationliving here, but I like living
here.
I couldn't see myself goinganywhere else.

Robby (01:25):
Is that because you were here, like if you wanted sweden,
would you do the same thing?

George (01:29):
yes, yes, probably yeah.

Robby (01:30):
All my roots are here, families here, friends are here
yeah, because there's people wholive in third world countries
who say the same thing.
Why would I leave?

George (01:37):
it's like I mean, you never know, right until you give
it a crack.
Who knows?
So there's a rally happeningwhich you only just found out
about because we were speakingabout it, and you're going to go
because I know you're pumped,of course I know you're pumped.
The rally for Australia, takingAustralia back, or something

(01:58):
like that on the 31st of August,so this episode will air
literally the day after thatevent and we're just reading up
on it before.
It's a protest aboutimmigration into this country.
So people are saying they'reletting too many people in and
Australia is losing theiridentity.
Other people are branding it asa racist march as well, which I

(02:24):
don't think it is.
I think there's just a level offrustration, not specifically
to immigration.
I think people are just hangingtheir hat on that and saying,
okay, well, cost of living isout of control, I can't buy a
house, everything's expensiveand we've lost our identity.
So it's obviously come down tothe immigration.
I reckon there's a level ofthat too.
So that's happening on the 31st.

(02:47):
It'll be interesting to seewhat comes of it and how many
people actually go to it.
They're just marching incapital cities, they're
protesting.

Robby (02:54):
So what's the outcome?

George (02:57):
What's the outcome of most marches?
They're obviously going againstthe policy of their mass
immigration that they've got atthe moment, and whether that
changes or not, so you know,when people strike, I get that
it's like, hey, we're not goingto work until you do this thing.

Robby (03:10):
It's like, okay, cool, we need to change something here,
otherwise this thing's not goingto get done.
But a bunch of people walkingthrough the city, it's like stop
walking.
I don't understand, I know, Iknow.

George (03:22):
I know it's like it's.
I feel that you're right inthat regard, that nothing's
going to come of this.
They're not going to changetheir policy tomorrow.
They're not going to changetheir views on anything tomorrow
.
I think if it happened every day, you know, once when I can't
remember what country this itwas in, I think it was France
and the government came in andput some tax on farmers or

(03:43):
something like that, and it waslike outrage.
The country was like up, theywere just losing their mind, so
much so that farmers grabbed allthe manure across their farms,
put them on trucks and whatnot,and then went to Parliament
House and blew the shit.
He goes.
You want to give us shit, we'llgive you shit.
And they blew all the manureacross parliament, across the

(04:06):
streets of France, and then thenext day they cancelled that tax
or whatever it was, thatrestriction on the farmers.
See, that's great in that regard, from a perspective of the
people that are controlling thegovernment.
It's not the other way around,whereas I think very much here
we're just dictated to in thesense of that's what we're going
to do.
We're introducing this tax,we're introducing this policy

(04:30):
and you can't do anything aboutit.
And that shits me.
I'm personally seeing a lotmore people creating content
about it and saying we're sickof this, we're this, it's this,
and so on and so forth.
Like those machete bins.
Have you seen those or heard ofthose?

Robby (04:44):
Yeah, yeah.

George (04:44):
So $13 million for however many bins it was 300
bins or some shit like that I'dlove to be a bin maker at that
point in time.

Robby (04:51):
Surely there's a brown paper bag.
Someone's looked after them.
Fuckin' oh, Someone's lookedafter them.
There's someone there going Iworked it out to.

George (05:03):
Yeah $330,000 for a box, a metal box, exactly A metal
box, which might have a flap onit or something like that.
Okay, don't give me anybullshit that it costs $330,000
to make that thing.
It doesn't.
In material alone it's probably$1,000.
Okay, in labor, what do?

Robby (05:22):
you reckon something like that honestly.

George (05:24):
Honestly, if you told me they cost five grand, I'd be
like, yeah, it's fair enough andeven that's a lot big.
That's it is.
But I'm I'm being practicalabout it.
I understand what.
I'm a builder, I know whatmaterials cost.

Robby (05:36):
I know what labor costs, even at five thousand dollars,
all right you want to bolt itdown or anything big deal, I'm
just that's four bolts.
That's five bucks a bolt.

George (05:45):
Do you know what I mean?
Even for supply, manufacturingand installation.
Call it 10 grand, all right.
Supply and install Even that'sall expensive, and they've
calculated it to cost $330,000 abin.
Now what shits me about that is?

(06:06):
I never got asked, there wasnever a vote, there was never
any logic behind the madness.
It was just we're going to goout and spend $13 million of
taxpayer money to get these binsinstalled.

Robby (06:17):
But the whole concept of voting is not that you vote for
everything that happens.

George (06:21):
No of course, of course, yes, that's right, but at what
point is it irresponsible?
So, australia I wish I had thestats on me and I probably
should have come a bit betterprepared, but we are in a huge
deficit, like we're spendingmore money than we've ever spent
before.
And I actually heard somethingthe other day in the since 24,
from 2014,.
Since the time the laborgovernment got into power, so

(06:43):
from 2014 prior, we were $21billion in debt, or something
like that.
From 14,.
In the last nine years, in thelast 10 years that we've been
that Labor's been in power,they've accumulated like $196
billion in debt.
They're spending withoutthinking.
They're spending money theydon't have and it's probably

(07:06):
going to be okay.
You walk outside.
It's a good day.
People don't look like they'restruggling, especially where our
office is.
I think it's going to be likethat for probably the next five
to 10 years, because it createsa false economy, as in they're
spending money, so things arehappening.
Creates a false economy, as inthey're spending money, so
things are happening.

(07:27):
We've got lots of people cominginto the country, immigrants.
They've opened the doors toAustralia.
Yeah, everyone come in.
Come in and live here.
Those people coming here arespending money.
They're buying houses, they'rebuying food, they're buying
clothes and groceries and allthat sort of stuff.
I don't feel that anyone'sreally feeling the pinch now.
I reckon in the next sort offive to 10 to 15 years and our

(07:47):
children's children, they're allgoing to be fucked based off
the decisions that thegovernment's making now.
Like if you're in business,like look at it as a business,
you're spending more money thanyou're making, like that's,
you're gone, you're going to bebroke.
Look, they've got people whohave no idea about government

(08:08):
and about economics are makinghuge economic decisions, and I
think that's a huge problem.
And I reckon that's partlydriven about this march, you
reckon?
I think so.
I think there's just a level offrustration.
I mean, I'm seeing it a lot onmy feed and that's probably just
because of the algorithm andwhat I'm consuming.
Yeah, exactly, but I'm seeing alot of political my feed and
that's probably just because ofthe algorithm and what I'm
consuming?
Yeah, exactly, but I'm seeing alot of political stuff on there
and just dumb things, thingsthat a logical, sound person

(08:32):
would look at and go.
Maybe it's not the best thingto spend $13 million on 150, 300
bins, whatever it is.
Maybe that's not the best useof our money right now.
Maybe we should do this.
Maybe we should cut spendinghere, and I think politicians
are cowards these days.
I don't see anyone making harddecisions.
Do you know what I loved theother day I saw with Trump?
I haven't spoken about him fora little while, but what a guy.

(08:54):
Let's get him on the podcast.
He put a law into place that ifanyone burns an American flag,
they'll get one year in jail,not one day, not 10 days.
It's not negotiable.
You burn an American flag, youspit on an American flag, you do
anything to disrespect thatflag you will get a whole year

(09:17):
in jail, all right.
And you put that in.
How many people do you reckonare going to be burning flags
now?
Yeah, none, none.
They're going to get rid of itcompletely.
That whole issue and that wholedisrespect of that.
They're going to eradicate that.
They're the type of things thatI don't think any politician
here has a backbone to do.

(09:38):
Sorry, I've seen a fewpoliticians trying to make a
difference and trying to changethings, but none in significant
power.

Robby (09:45):
Yeah, but we're part of the Commonwealth, like we're
restricted.

George (09:51):
With what?
Oh, with the governance.

Robby (09:54):
Yeah, yeah, but there is the same way, dude.
This is a battle betweensecurity and freedom.
It is, yeah, 100%.
And they're like two oppositeends of the same stick, yep.
And it's like, if you want moreof this, you have less of this.
That's right.
That's how things work, that'sright.

George (10:15):
And it has to come back the other way.
There has to be somerestrictions.
There has to be a level of nowsecurity because we're living a
pretty no no of now securitybecause we're living a pretty no
, no.
I'm not saying from a safeperspective, I'm saying even
from a financial security.
Like there's got to be someonethat has to make some hard calls
and go, you know what.
We're not going to spend moneyon these things now, because we
don't need that.

(10:35):
We actually need to startmaking some money.
We need to start generatingsome positive things coming
through, Like they'reintroducing all these new taxes
that they're introducing and newthings that they're trying to
do.
It's like, mate, are you serious?
They're increasing.
Now if you work from home,they're trying to claim that you
have to now pay more land taxworking from home, because your
business is operating out ofthere.

(10:56):
It's like you've got people whoit's Vic only, yeah, but
regardless, it's still a newthing that they're trying to
bring in and then watch theother states do it too.
I think the government needs togo.
There needs to be a change ingovernment Australia-wide yeah,
probably Australia-wide.

(11:16):
Albanese is a fucking idiot too.
You don't like him?
No, I just think he's an idiot.
The guy might be all right, butI just think you're making
stupid decisions.
You don't have a backbone andyou're not as you said it to me
the other day like everyonethinks they're doing the right
thing.
All right.
They really, they genuinelybelieve that.
I think most people are likethat.

Robby (11:37):
Yes, Of course, no one sits there saying this is the
wrong thing, yeah that's right.

George (11:42):
So I believe he thinks he's doing the right thing.
I just don't.
It's just not.
I just see the decisions he'smaking are just not the best for
the country.
They're the best for his partyand to get re-elected and to
continue their journey.

Robby (11:56):
So why do you think he wants to get re-elected?

George (11:57):
Well, because you're in power, why wouldn't you?

Robby (12:01):
party to be reelected?
Yeah, but so answer thequestion.
Don't say why wouldn't you?

George (12:06):
Why do I think?
To Well, it's power.

Robby (12:09):
So why does he want to be in power?
What's the if you're sayinghe's making bad decisions and
he's not doing anything, is it?

George (12:14):
money.
No, that's my look, that's myopinion.
They think even our premier isup there.
Yeah, she's.
What's her name?
I don't know, she's annoying,I'll know when you say it, but
anyway she's making half a mil.
She's like the most highestpaid, she's annoying, did you?

(12:35):
say yeah, yeah, she's a fuckingidiot I don't know, just like
Andrews it's.
He gave her all the fuckingidiot choices and she's now
taking care of it too, but thedecisions like she was the bin
decision maker.
Just that alone should fire you, nicole.
No, oh, whatever.
Anyway, see, that's how Lidslook like.

(12:57):
I don't care enough to evenknow her name, but anyway, okay.
So let's look at the immigration.
Most of these people cominginto the country are going to
vote Labor as well, so you'regetting a huge population of
these immigrants going to voteLabor, because Labor always
gives.
They always look after thepeople.
They always try and please thepeople, but I think some hard

(13:19):
decisions need to be made andchanged.
What would you change?
Spending?
I'd have a look.
I'd do what Elon did or whatTrump did with Elon.
Are they mates now?
Did they kiss and make up?
Weren't they punching on orsomething?
You were into the politics forages.
Now you're taking a step backinto the American one.
Just head down working.
I would look at spending.

(13:41):
I would stop spending To adegree.
We still need to spend somemoney to keep the economy going.
But I'd just look at spending.
I would stop spending to adegree.
We still need to spend somemoney to keep the economy going.
But I just look at where are wespending our money, like what
things are actually genuinelygoing to help us and make us
prosper.
I reckon we have a spendingproblem in this country and I
think we have a-.

Robby (13:58):
How does that impact?

George (13:58):
you.
How does it impact me?
Look, day-to-day probably notat all.
I think in the long term itwill for sure yeah, but From a
perspective of housing prices,from everything, from all the
things all our just expenses ofliving, you know, taxes that are
being introduced, it just makesthe game harder to win for

(14:19):
individuals and, like you, seehow hard it is for most people
to buy a house today.
Imagine what it's going to belike in 20 years or in 15 years,
when our kids are now lookingto buy their first property.

Robby (14:34):
Yeah, but you could say the same thing about America.
If you look at America-.

George (14:37):
Potentially.
I don't know what the economyis like over there, but yeah,
potentially.

Robby (14:43):
Like it's going to cap out somewhere, doesn't it?
With what Like property prices.

George (14:47):
Yeah, you would think so Like kind of plateaus yeah,
yeah, you would think so andalso like you don't have to live
where you grew up.
A lot of people can't do that,so there are cheaper options for
home ownership.

Robby (15:00):
A lot of people can't live where they grew up.

George (15:02):
Yeah, like as in if you grew up in Albert Park, for
example, all right, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, and to buy a
house in Albert Park now is verydifferent from what it was back
then.
So, yeah, there's the urbansprawl that you can do and have
that property ladder mindset oh,I'm going to buy here, then

(15:22):
I'll buy here, then I'll buyhere and I'll eventually move
into where I want to move into.
But I think that's the problem,as in day-to-day I don't notice
it, but it frustrates me.
I'm a logical person, I'm apractical person and when I see
stupid decisions like the bins,getting that much money being
spent on those bins, I'm likewhat an absolute waste of money.

(15:43):
And especially because even thelogic behind it is stupid, we
want criminals to come and bringtheir machetes and put them in
the bin in their own free will,because do you have a machete?

Robby (15:57):
Me.

George (15:57):
Three, three.
Have you used them recently,though A couple of times, a
couple of times.
Well, I don't have any machetes.
I don't know who would help meto get one Exactly.
Do you know what I mean?
So the person that's even goingto go out to buy a machete and
use a machete for whateverfucking purpose it's going to be

(16:18):
used for, all right, they'regoing to go.
You know what?
I better go to this bin anddrop it off, because that's the
right thing to do.
Mind you, security cameras allover the bin so they can see
who's dropping the bins off,who's dropping these things off.
I want to go and drop offbutter knife, just one, here we
go.

Robby (16:39):
Put it in Get use of my taxpayer dollars.
I don't know, I don't followthe policies, I don't know.

George (16:44):
Yeah, I see a lot now, like even on our fossil fuels.
We're the third biggest countryin the world that exports
fossil fuels and we make nofucking money from it.
None, we're trying to go torenewable energies, which are so
super expensive.
When we have coal, when we haveoil I don't know if we have oil
, but we have gas when we haveall these resources at our
fingertips and we make no moneyfrom it, we give it away for

(17:08):
fucking free, pretty much.
They're in itself.
Why?
Just people making bad policiesand lining their own pockets?
They'll make undercut like theindividual is being looked after
, I think, in that instance, andit'll be.
Oh, we'll give you $100 million.
I said, bloke, you go to Saudi.
They're exporting their oil andeverything for billions and

(17:29):
trillions of dollars and you'vegiven me 50 million.
That's stupidity, Making thosedecisions to go okay, guys, you
want to take our resources?
Well, our country is going tobenefit from that.
I'm not going to just look attaxing people more so I can just
milk everyone for every centthey own.
No, I'm going to create wealthwithin the country.
What can I do to do that?

(17:51):
That's the first place you haveto look.
I look at Australia as abusiness.
What does Australia do reallywell, we don't manufacture
anything.
We don't do that because ourlabor rate's just through the
fucking roof and it's just notsustainable for us to make
anything here.
Okay, so what's the next thing?
Well, we've got plenty ofnatural resources.
Let's make money on that.
We're the third biggest in theworld.

(18:12):
We sell coal to China fornothing, and gas and all that
sort of stuff, and they use itand they burn it and they make
everything they've got to do,and yet we don't do any of that.
We don't sell it at thoseprices.
Imagine making trillions ofdollars from our resources.

Robby (18:29):
That solves half of your issues.
So what are you going to do?

George (18:31):
about it.
That's another question, isn'tit?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Even if I was that passionateabout it to get into the place
and go well, I'm going to dosomething about this I feel that
it would fall on deaf ears.
I feel that I'd be trying tofight a losing battle, Because I
see some people.
I see some people doing theirpodcasts.
They're doing, they're havingdiscussions.

(18:53):
I've seen some politicians getup there and talking about it,
Like what happens?
Why Nothing's happening.
I feel that people are havingthe discussion.
They're doing this march now,but what's going to happen as a
result of it?
I don't feel that anythinghappens.
There's a big disconnect there.
The people that are in powerare not, or the people, the
decision makers, whoever theyare, they're the ones not making

(19:15):
the call, because I don't thinkit suits their selfish
individual needs and party needs.
Let's say the march.

Robby (19:24):
What's it about?

George (19:26):
I think the topic around it is immigration Stop
immigration.
I don't think you can stopimmigration.
I think it's the right thing.
They're just saying from whatI've read yeah, from what I've
read is Australia's losing theiridentity and we're just letting
too many foreigners in and youknow they're contributing to the
cost of living and to all thesepressures.

(19:46):
I just think people are blamingthat for the bigger issue,
which is we're just not wellgoverned.

Robby (19:55):
So you think it's a government problem?
I think so.

George (19:58):
Yeah, I mean.
What else is it If you'relooking at it from a perspective
of?

Robby (20:02):
I don't know.
You can look at a business anddo you always blame the person
at the top?

George (20:07):
It'd have to be a fair fucking assumption.
Yeah, like, why wouldn't italways be the person at the top
I'm asking?
Yeah, I think so.
If the buck stops with you,then yes, absolutely.
But I reckon that that's wherethe problem is, that it's a
governance issue and that's whatneeds to change.
And, unfortunately, unlessAustralians just went, okay,

(20:29):
we've got the march, you've gotto march on the 31st.
If you really cared that muchabout these things, you need to
go to, like, parliament House.
You need to like hurl shit,like not violence, not reckless
damage.
You heard it here first.

Robby (20:42):
Like the guys at Brent's.
It's like you listen to this onMonday and people bring a truck
of manure.
Yeah, it's all over the newsand people have oh damn.

George (20:49):
You've got to force change.
Yeah, it's going to air after.

Robby (20:52):
Post it on Facebook.

George (20:53):
I will.
I will Do a snippet from thisclip.
But if they did that everysingle day for the next week,
like, as you said, we're goingto strike because we want change
and we're not coming back towork until we get that change, I
think there has to be a levelof that.
It has to be so.
People have to be very unitedin what they want and what

(21:16):
they're about in that cause, andthen it has to be some serious
action that forces change.

Robby (21:22):
Yeah, but I don't think we have that here.

George (21:24):
I don't think we'll ever have that here.
We don't have freedom.
No, but even look at but we havesecurity.
Look at, yeah, look at, duringCOVID, like people were
protesting.
Then Did anything change?
Did you see any significantchange to the rules, with all
the protests about jabs, aboutlockdowns?
No, none of that.
Nothing changed.
There's zero.
If anything, it got worse.

(21:45):
They had protests in the citywith the construction industry
the next week.
The industry was shut down fortwo weeks.
That's what our mate Andrewsdid.
He shut us down for two weeks.
After they did that march in thecity with all the construction
workers, they said no, we're notgetting the jab, we're not
doing this.
And then he said oh fine, well,I'll lock you down for two
weeks.
Now imagine if they said duringthat lockdown for two weeks, I

(22:07):
said fuck you, mate, we're goingto be a parliament house every
day.
You don't have enough police,you don't have an army, you
don't have anyone that can stopus for the next two.
You want to stop us?
Cool, we'll see you outsideyour parliament house for the
next two weeks.
And it got so intense.
Maybe it is a level of writingI'm not promoting, I'm not
endorsing that, but maybethere's.
That's what it sounds like, butyou know what I mean Like we're

(22:35):
going to burn this fuckingbuilding to the ground.
You have an option.
That's all we want.
We want someone that's going tocome in and change and make the
best decisions for this country, for this day.

Robby (22:45):
So why do you think no one's done that yet?
I don't you know what I hate?
This shits me up the wall.
I got like you follow AFL.
Yeah, I don't follow AFLanymore.

George (22:57):
Yes, I think it is.
I understand you don't why youdon't.
To tell you the truth, I reallydon't.

Robby (23:01):
It's become a very extreme.
I don't know any other sportthat changes its rules as much.
I don't know any other sportwhere the players can't call
someone gay without getting fourweeks suspension.

George (23:10):
Yeah, Like you're too controlled and not allowed to
say anything out.
The players have nopersonalities.
Politically correct, yeah, Iagree.
Politically I agree.
Do you know what I mean?
And I heard the latest just tointerject, so you know who's
performing at the afl grandfinal.
Have you heard?

Robby (23:26):
yeah, yeah, snoop, dogg, yeah, yeah.
So have you heard what'shappening?

George (23:29):
they're trying to stop that.
Now.
How could you have?
I heard like some politicianssay something and I never
comment on their stuff and Itold her to shut the fuck up.
I actually commented S-T-F-U,but she said how could we have
this guy presenting at the AFLand his derogatory comments to

(23:49):
women and this and this and thisand blah, blah, blah and all
these swear words and smokingand promoting this?
What example is he trying toset?
Like shut the fuck up.
The guy just plays some goodmusic and I love Snoop Dogg for
one thing he said specificallyAgain, a little bit sideways,
but one thing he goes.
A lady was interviewing him andshe's like hey, because he's

(24:11):
changed his way.
Like he does a lot of charitywork, he's a grandfather.
Like he's got kids.
He's not what he used to bewhen he was 20 years old, he's
grown up.
He's grown up.
He's a contributing member ofsociety.
Now he's a legend.
Yeah, but-.

Robby (24:26):
Yes, he is.
How many people can do it?
He stayed relevant.

George (24:28):
Yes, and also, anyway, regardless, the lady that was
interviewing him.
It was in the States and she'slike look, you know, see, you've
come so far.
You're doing songs with, likeKaty Perry and all these people,
like you're doing kids songs,like you're on you're doing
cooking shows.
And she's like do you regretthe songs that you used to sing
back in the days?
Like fuck, no, fuck those hoes.

(24:48):
Yeah, and he's like but youknow what I mean?
He said that, but he followedup.
He goes fuck those hoes.
But in the sense of that's who Iwas back.
Like that was part of myjourney, of where I am today.
I would not change a thing.
I had to be that person and saythose things and do those

(25:12):
things and be in a gang and bewith this and do all that sort
of stuff to be the man that I amtoday.
So he goes.
I would not change or regretanything I did, and also there
was a level of fame, success,popularity that came from me
doing all those things too,because if I didn't say those
things, if I wasn't going downthat path, I wouldn't be where I
am today.
What a legend to stick by himand what he's done.
And then you got all thesefucking lefties in Australia

(25:32):
saying, oh, get rid of SnoopDogg from the AFL grand final.
He's not going to go up thereand talk about fucking bitches.
Do you know what I mean?
He's going to go up there andhe'll sing some of his songs,
his popular songs, and he'llentertain the crowd.
It'd be very good if he didthough.
I'd buy a ticket.
Sorry to interject.
You're talking about the AFLand how you're pissed off at it.

Robby (25:57):
Where was I going with that, Mark?

George (25:58):
You were talking about how they you know they can't
they change the rules every fiveminutes.
No one can.
There's no personality with theplayers because they can't say
anything.

Robby (26:08):
Before that we were talking about.

George (26:10):
We're talking about change.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Robby (26:12):
So this shits me up the wall.
I oh, yes, yes, yes.
So this shits me up the wall.
I used to follow footyreligiously.
I was a member.
I'd go to games.
I used to watch most games onthe weekend.
I knew players.

George (26:27):
I liked the sport overall.
It's kind of sad that you don'tlike that anymore.

Robby (26:30):
Yeah, completely.
It's a great sport.

George (26:31):
It's not the sport at its core.
It's horrible.
It's a great sport.
It's not the sport at its core.
It's horrible.

Robby (26:40):
But overall now, looking outside, looking in, I'm telling
you I don't know what'shappened.
Maybe it's just me, it's not.
I know so many people that arelike this.
Yeah, but one thing that usedto happen a lot when I used to
watch it was I'd get familymembers or other people that
would be like why doesn't thecoach just do this, this and
that?
And it's like dude, they'repaying him a million bucks.

(27:03):
You're sitting here.

George (27:05):
You're in the grandstand .

Robby (27:06):
How do you think you are more qualified to make that
decision?
Yeah, do you know what I mean.
Think about it.

George (27:11):
I hear people like that all the time, even at the game
you hear people like that allthe time, Even at the game, you
hear people like what's he doing?
Run you weak prick, andmeanwhile he's eating 43 burgers
and hot chips.

Robby (27:19):
Yeah, or lazy shit.
The coach is so dumb man.
You know what I'd do.
I'd do this and I'd put him inthat position and I'd tell them
go kick some more gold.
And you're like, dude, shutyour mouth, Like why he's there
and you're here, that's right,okay.
And don't you believe that insome level there has to be some
context?
They have, like, that persongot to that position and, yes,

(27:44):
is there going to be the odd onewho's not the smartest human
being who got lucky and gotthere?
Yeah, without a doubt.
But don't you think, most ofthe time, like majority rules,
right, like it's always going tolean in the it's not always
going to be the person who's notthe smartest that gets there?
Yeah, that life doesn't workthat way, that's right.
It's very low probability ofthat happening.
So don't you think most of thepeople in that position have
some level of context orunderstanding that you don't

(28:06):
have?

George (28:07):
Without a doubt, there has to be.
Yeah, there has to be.

Robby (28:21):
Otherwise how, not how, did you get there?
That's, and that's why I'm surealbanese knows a lot about, a
lot more about economic policythan I do.

George (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying like, do you think he has
some context of like he can'tbe that stupid?
I?
I think that politicians inthis country, anyway, probably
in all of them in saying that sothere's a level of showmanship,
there's a level of influencethat you need to have to be able
to answer questions.
In a certain way.
I reckon there's that level ofinfluence like that underground

(28:47):
influence, where you canmanipulate and change people's
views and perceptions based offthe words coming out of your
mouth.
Now I reckon those people areput forward as the leader and
then behind them are the peoplethat are making the decisions
and doing stuff.
Like that there has to be, if Iwas leader, right, we say we
joke, not we joke, we say whenI'm premier, when it happens and

(29:09):
then eventually PM that I'mgoing to go change the world,
I'm going to do all these things, I'm going to say all this,
going to get rid of all thisstuff, but ultimately I would be
leaning on professionals to bedoing that stuff for me.
I would be engaging the bestpeople to do those things and to
make those decisions.
And then I would gather thatinformation and go cool, we'll

(29:30):
go in this direction.
But when someone said to mewell, what's the GDP of this?
What's that?
Where's the economic forecast?
I don't know.

Robby (29:41):
Let me ask my advisor.

George (29:44):
Yeah, so you don't think they're doing that?

Robby (29:48):
They would have to have teams behind them.

George (29:50):
Yeah, what you're explaining would be the easiest
way to proceed.
Yeah, I don't think it's allthat.
I reckon there's still a levelof smarts about them and you
know, they've got to go throughthe ranks.
It's not like Albanese woke upone day and was prime minister,
or any of them for that matter.
They had a process.
They've been doing it forprobably 30, 40 years before

(30:11):
they got to that spot.
So there's a level ofexperience that comes with that
too.
Yes, there has to be.
They would see things.
They would probably be theperson doing the do, writing the
policy or issuing the policy orcoming up with the idea.
So, yes, I think there's alevel of that.
But when they get to that topposition, how influential they
are, I don't know.
I can't recall.

(30:32):
I know more things that Trumphas done for his country than I
know our prime ministers havedone for ours.

Robby (30:38):
Do you think there's a level of corruption?

George (30:41):
Yes, I think there is.
I don't know if there is, butthere would be Like, how could
you be giving all your shit awayfor free, like all your natural
resources, for practicallynothing?
They don't pay tax, they don'tbuy it from us, like buy it from
us?
In the grand scheme of things,they're giving it away.
So someone's pockets are beinglined.

(31:02):
Something is happening in theseinstances and you hear the
stories.
You hear a government personwas working with Santos, giving
them the ins, the outs, whateverit might be, and then they one
of the guys exporting resourcesI think gas, whatever fossil

(31:24):
fuels and they then leavepolitics and have got a million
dollar a year job at thatcompany.
So I think there is a level ofthat that goes on.
But again, I don't know Justwhat I've seen and heard and
things that come up on my feed,but it's probably like that at

(31:49):
all levels.

Robby (31:52):
Which takes me back to my original question.
So what are you going to doabout it?
Yeah, honestly, nothing.
I'm going to keep working here,I.
What are you going to do aboutit?
Yeah, honestly nothing.

George (31:57):
I'm going to keep working here.
I'm going to try to win here atmy game.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to be above that, sowhat?

Robby (32:03):
if it gets to the point where it's.

George (32:05):
You know you can't win.
They just come in and takeeverything.

Robby (32:09):
Not you can't win, but like I, we've got pretty high
tax rates Maybe.

George (32:13):
Yeah, I know.

Robby (32:14):
But I'm saying Maybe we go.
Yeah, that's right.
I watched a.
I actually saw a Post thatAdrian Portelli did, yeah,
yesterday, and he showed and I Igot no idea Whether he's
putting it on or not, but heshowed how much money he's
transferred to the ATO In themonth of August and it was like
I don't know 7 million, and heshowed all the transfers.

(32:36):
Now is that 7 million becausehe hasn't paid it for the last
90 days?
I don't know, but 7 millionbucks is a lot of money.
You know what I mean.
And it's like at what pointdoes it become to the point
where you're like, hey, this is,you know what I mean.
You guys aren't providing, like, okay, you pay high taxes with

(32:56):
the expectation of you guysprovide a ridiculously good
place to live, yeah, safe,growing, you know, affordable,
blah, blah, blah.

George (33:08):
They're not making the best decisions with their money.
That's what I mean.
They're not.
So what are you?
What's the breaking point?
I don't know, like I don't knowthe answer to that.
There's a I'm.
I find I'm just frustrated withit.
Yeah, because have you heardthe?

Robby (33:19):
term of the, the frog in boiling water you had the yes,
whether you warm it up yeah, soa frog.
If you throw a frog train intoboiling water, it'll jump
straight out.
So some people might come tothis country like this is fucked
, yeah, but if you slowlyincrease the temperature of the
water.
If you throw into cold water andslowly increase the temperature
of the water.
If you throw it into cold waterand slowly increase the
temperature, it won't notice.
And the next thing you know,the frog's boiled.
That's right.
So at what point are westarting to boil?

George (33:41):
Yeah, I reckon we're getting close to it.
In all honesty, I reckon we are.
I reckon there's a level ofthis country is starting to boil
, but some people are just fedup with it.
And I don't know, I don't know,I don't know the answer.

(34:01):
The answer is hopefully you canvote for people that are going
to make the positive change atthis point, like that's your,
that's your power, but, as Isaid, like too many people are
just labor, throwing money atthem.
Then the life is easy, like thedoll is easy.
I've heard of like I've heardof stories.
I was watching this interviewwith Pauline Hanson the other
day.
The goal is easy.
I've heard of stories.
I was watching this interviewwith Pauline Hanson the other
day and it was some immigrantfrom wherever he was.
I don't even know where he wasfrom, but he was sitting there

(34:22):
and openly saying he goes.
I've got family members there'sprobably six or seven of us.
He goes.
We've got three houses paid offand we've done it all from the
dole.
He goes.
The system is set up for us tocome in and claim it, so why
won't I?
I've come to this country.
They're just giving me stuff.
They're giving me houses,they're giving me this.
They're giving me money, sowe're going to do it, all of us.
We go in there and we get ourmoney, we put it together, we go

(34:44):
buy a house, we go do this andthen we just continue our role.
And Pauline Hanson's like thisis your system, we're just

(35:07):
working it.
There's just bad spendingacross the board and it's
encouraging people to do thewrong thing and look out for
their own needs.
That's where I see it.
I don't know the answer.
I'm frustrated that I wish Icould do something.
I wish if I went, if it meantme going to the protest on
Saturday was going to create thedifference, I'd probably go,
but it's not, so I'm not goingto go.

Robby (35:26):
By the time this airs, people are going to see footage
of George.
He'll be the one with thebiggest flag Leading the protest
.

George (35:33):
We're in Australia.

Robby (35:33):
I'll have the Australian flag going.
The biggest flag Leading theprotest.
We're in Australia.

George (35:33):
I have the Australian flag going yeah.

Robby (35:33):
And hey, you got to ask that question though.

George (35:38):
Just for context too.
Yeah, both you and I areAustralian citizens, but we're
immigrant parents.
We've come here from anothercountry.
We were born.
Our roots are from anothercountry, not this one.
Your parents were born.
My dad was born in Greece.
My mum was born here, but herparents were born.

Robby (35:59):
My dad was born in.

George (35:59):
Greece.
My mum was born here, but herparents were born in Greece.
My mum lived in Greece for a fewyears as well.
Your mum was born here.
Yeah, yeah, mum was born here.
Does your mum speak fullEnglish?
Yeah, yeah, oh, really, okay,yeah, no accent, not like your
dad.
No, not like my dad.
Shout out to Steve.
Shout out to Steve week, sowe'll get him on.
Get him on the podcast.
That'll be a great episode foryou all.
We should say we should sayokay.
So this one time old man camein the office speaking to robbie

(36:23):
and he's like you guy, you guys.
He's like you guys don't knowwhat you're talking about.
And robbie's like what the fuck, what's?
He call me.
Yeah, you guys, he gets you gay.
He goes no, I'm not, I'm notdating your son.
He just couldn't tell theaccent.
He goes no, you guys, oh, youguys not you gays.
I'm so convinced he called usgays Biggest fan watches every

(36:47):
episode on YouTube, number onefan.
Yeah, but I mean that might beinteresting to have a chat with
someone about.
You know from a previousgeneration how they see things
and what it was like when theycame to Australia.
Do you believe we're racist inthis country?

Robby (37:03):
I believe everyone's racist.
Okay, cool, don't you?
Are you saying you love allcultures equally?
That's stupid.
Like that's just you're lying.
Yeah, like everyone has somelevel of.
I don't have to like everythingabout every culture.

George (37:17):
No, that's right Now.

Robby (37:18):
I think it is incorrect to be like oh, if you're Greek,
I don't like you.

George (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's wrong To havethat blanket rule.

Robby (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, to have a blanket rule, but I think
blanket rules are wrong in life.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, to think that someone isbetter because they're a certain
yes, that's different.
Yeah, nationality is wrong too.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Oh, you're Greek, I'm Greek.
Oh, cool, and like we should befriends.
It's like no, like I look forpeople who, or something like
that.
Right, without a doubt.

George (37:56):
How many Lebanese have you met that you don't like or
you wouldn't align with, andvice versa, with Greek None?

Robby (38:00):
Not even one.
What are you talking about?

George (38:03):
Shout out to our Lebo community.
But yeah, I mean, I couldn'tagree more, because it's funny.
Whenever because I'm a builder,it's like I'll get a great
client, like, oh, you know, youknow, you look after me because
I'm great.
No, I'll look after you becauseI'm a great builder, I'll look
after you because we're the bestperson to build this property.
Just because you and my dadcame from the same village, like

(38:24):
thus makes no difference to mewhatsoever if you're a good
person yes, but that was the oldway, very much so.
Look, there's culturalsimilarities that you can make
assumptions on.
You know, because they're Greekand they or a certain ethnicity
.
You can definitely havecultural similarities that you
could make some decentassumptions on, but it doesn't
make them a good person.

(38:44):
There are plenty of Greeks thatare horrible people.

Robby (38:48):
Yeah, I agree with that rule.
It doesn't make them a good orbad person.
Yeah, that's right.
To judge them by that thing isthe incorrect thing.
Yeah, Okay, so everyone'sracist yeah don't you reckon
everyone has some level ofracism?

George (39:06):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Yes, I do.

Robby (39:07):
I think it's a like you shouldn't promote.
It, don't get me wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it is delusional to sithere and say I like everyone
equally, all cultures,everything.
It's like what, if I don't likeGreek food?
That?

George (39:24):
means you don't like it equally.
Yeah, am.

Robby (39:25):
I racist now, yeah, am I racist because I don't like
Greek food?

George (39:28):
Well, that comes down to what you were saying just
before with the AFL, it don'tlike greek food.
Well, that comes down to whatyou're saying, but just before
with the afl, it's like youcan't have an opinion.
Yeah, in any of the matters,dude.

Robby (39:39):
Yeah, it's like someone said oh, you know, nice kick
homo.
Is that what he said?
I've no idea.
No idea, there's no.
One said dude, there's been noidea mentions about homophobic
slurs.
That's right in the last sixweeks, or whatever yeah, I don't
necessarily think the guy'sgonna miss, the guy's gonna miss
finals he'll probably miss thegrand final.
He'll only make the grand finalif his team loses the
elimination final.
Make the grand final.
Oh sorry, I get what you'resaying.

George (39:59):
So he has four games.
Four games, yeah, so for him tomake the-.
So if they win, every game Ifthey win every game that's
Adelaide, isn't it?

Robby (40:07):
I think so, yeah, yeah, so, but if they lose the first
game and then win the next gameshe'll get to play in the grand
final.
It's like that's pretty stupid.
This is ridiculous, this iswhat they play for.

George (40:15):
Yeah, exactly.
What a great way to put it.
This is what they play for.

Robby (40:18):
Like this is the moment and you guys are saying, oh, you
said a word, you said a word, aword, you said a word.
Your face made a sound that wedon't like.

George (40:31):
Okay, so can I change that now?
What if it was a racial slur?
Does that change it?

Robby (40:36):
What's the drop?
Drop, drop, Do you want?

George (40:38):
me to say the N?
Do you want me to say the Nword?
Never?
Do you know what I mean?
Or, or or.
It was an Aboriginal player andhe gave, he insulted their
heritage, or something like that.

Robby (40:52):
Listen, I think you should be respectful to all
humans.

George (40:54):
Yeah, so then is there a level of respect to the?

Robby (40:59):
gays?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, I don't think you shouldknock off to someone because
they're gay.

George (41:03):
Oh no, I'm just saying in this aspect of the AFL now.
So what's the rule Like?
Should the AFL have said, ah,you'll be right Just.
Should the AFL have said, ah,you'll be right, Just don't do
it again.

Robby (41:11):
No, I think it's.
First of all, I think it'sexcessive.
Second of all, I think theplayers have no, like they're
pretty much saying hey, all youguys need to be robots.
Yeah, what AFL player'spersonality who?
Yeah, I actually JasonAckermanis was the last one.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, who in?

George (41:33):
the AFL, maybe Ginnivan.
At the moment he gets roastedfor every single thing that
happens, dude.
Did you see?
The other day he stuck hisfinger up at an Adelaide Crow
supporter.
Well, they did anyway.
So he was walking off the bench.
They lost the game Walking off.
Someone was giving it to him.
He just went like that and gaveit to him and the AFL fined him
.
They'll find him at $1,000.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what he did?
He tweeted best money everspent.
Good on him, yeah, good on him.

(41:54):
At least he's got thatpersonality about him to say
well, fuck it, man, here's$1,000.
Don't talk to me.
So at least I rate that fromhim, at least.

Robby (42:04):
So I watch the UFC and then you get people in the UFC
who can turn around and veryextreme.
Well, why I?

George (42:11):
don't know.
It's like they're attackingfrom all those perspectives from
a racial one, from a belief one, a view one everything and some
of them they probably shouldn'tsay.
Yeah.

Robby (42:23):
But Conor McGregor was notorious for that.
He definitely crossed the line.
Yeah, but I think the elementof so is that what you want in
the AFL?

George (42:33):
Is that what you would like to see?
No, yeah, exactly so.
Is there a rule?
Is there a line?
Where's the line that youshouldn't be crossing?

Robby (42:40):
Yeah, so I think it should be within reason.
Do you know what I mean?
I think that is too far leftright now.
Yeah, I agree with you.
You said a homophobic slurwhich was said in songs and
stuff like 20 years ago.
Yeah, yeah, Do you know what Imean?
And now you can't Dude.
I watched a clip.
I'm pretty sure it was said ina movie.

(43:02):
You know what I mean.
I'm thinking of the F.

George (43:07):
Faggot.
Yeah, sure they said it on StepBrothers.
I love that one.
But, do you know what I mean?
A perfect example like that.
I can't remember the last timethey had a movie where they said
stuff like that.
And that's again.
Guys, I'm not trying to be meanor anything you said, it's just
a word that's coming out ofyour mouth, it's a sound.
I'm not targeting that toanyone or saying it in a way
that's derogatory.

(43:28):
I'm just saying that that'swhat he said and they would say
it in a joking manner.
Okay, so stepbrothers, forexample, will.
It was Will Ferrell's car, Ithink it was Will Ferrell or one
of the other guys that werehugging.
And then he's like, yeah, you'dlike that faggot.
And is he now homophobicbecause he said that in an
acting role?
Or is the producer or thewriters?
Are they now bad people becausethey put that in a comedy movie

(43:50):
?

Robby (43:54):
That's what I'm saying.
But that's the game thatthey've, the rules that they've
kind of outlined.
You know what I mean.
And it's like now you cannotsay that, and it's like they're
setting a, they're puttingeveryone else on notice.
Yeah, I think that's what it'smore about.

George (44:11):
I think that's what it's more about.
I think that's what it's moreabout Using those two guys that
got four to five weeks off as anexample.

Robby (44:17):
So can he call him anything else?
Are they allowed to swear, likewhere do we draw the line To go
the other way to what you said?
Okay, we don't want racialslurs, that's a bit excessive.
But where do we draw the line?
Are you allowed to swear?
Are you allowed to say, hey,idiot.
Yeah, you called him an idiotfour weeks, bro.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?

George (44:34):
Like where do you stop the line?
That's exactly right, yeah,does it get to that point
eventually.

Robby (44:37):
I'm offended.
You call me an idiot.
That means you think I'm dumb,I think I'm smart.
You call him a moron.
Are you allowed to say hi, canyou bump him?
Yeah, if you bump him and hehurts you, you bump him because
he's gay.
Yeah, oh, hey, you bumped a gayguy.
Yeah, four weeks, like where doyou?

George (44:58):
draw the line.
I don't know, yeah, exactly,but this is a great example of
that.
Yeah, and I think that's what'shappening here, the far on one
side, even in our politics now,yeah, I agree With the decision
making, with the policies, witheverything, and it's just not
serving our country.

Robby (45:17):
I agree and I think we've done this well, but I think you
need to.
If you go to a new country, Ithink you need to assimilate.
What do you mean To some degreeLike fit in.

George (45:34):
Oh, without a doubt, you know what I mean You're in
their country.

Robby (45:36):
You're in their country.
I think that's the biggestmistake people make.
Yeah, they come and they don'twant to do and it's like hey,
man, like if you want to do allthings the way it was done in
your country, go to your country.
Yeah, like, there's nothingwrong with saying that, I
believe.

George (45:50):
And I feel that that's where people are getting that
level of frustration here isyou're getting a whole group of
people coming across, whatevernationality it is, and then them
coming here and putting theirviews, their beliefs, their
everything into the country andwhat they're doing here and

(46:11):
don't want to follow the rulesof this country.
An example I could use is likeokay, I don't know if this is
still a thing anymore I think itmight've sort of been brushed
out, but it still might beCelebrating Christmas in schools
.
They don't celebrate Christmasin schools because there's some
children there that aren'tChristians, so they'll be like

(46:33):
oh well, we can't celebrateChristmas, we can't put up
Christmas decorations, we can'tsing Christmas carols, we can't
do any of that.
We can't color in a Christmastree on one of the days because
this person doesn't believe inChristmas, and then they've
stamped that out.
So there's an example of that'sthe values of this country.
We're a Christian society.
Why wouldn't you celebrate thataspect of Christmas, and I find

(47:01):
that silly.
I don't know if they still dothat in schools, though I do
know a little while.

Robby (47:06):
It wouldn't surprise me if they did.
I don't know, but you can, yeah.
The other extreme is like whydo you have to teach kids about
gays?
Like why do you have to teachan?
Eight-year-old about that, no,yeah, without a doubt.
Like, or a 10 year old, likewhy would you go and confuse a
child?
A child's mind is malleable.
Why would you go?
And yeah, and I like people sayeducation, blah, blah, and it's

(47:26):
like like that's not, they'renot gonna know that's not
education, that's.

George (47:31):
That's forcing a belief, that's brainwashing, that's
right.

Robby (47:35):
I think people need to definitely assimilate more.

George (47:41):
Yeah, and you see, like okay, you go to Dubai, all right
, you reckon they're going to beaccepting of you whatever,
disrespecting their culture inany way or imposing your beliefs
on that country in any way?
Of course not, or any of thoseArab countries along there.
They won't accept that for amoment.
There's a clear line in thesand with that.

(48:03):
We don't have that clear lineno.

Robby (48:09):
I agree, maybe that's what we need.
Did you see those videos fromthe people burning the
Australian flag?
No, I haven.
Maybe that's what we needVideos of.
Did you see those videos, thatthing from the people burning
the Australian flag?
No, I haven't seen that.
Oh, you didn't see it.
No, in Sydney no, oh yeah,people burnt the Australian flag
while protesting the Palestine.

George (48:25):
Yeah.
So see, I find that that's toomuch.
I find that highlydisrespectful.
And again, I'm aGreek-Australian.
I feel more connection to thiscountry than I do Greece.
I speak Greek.

Robby (48:37):
Australia and Greece went to war.
Yeah, which team would I be on?
Who knows, which team would yoube on?

George (48:41):
Stay in the middle.
Let's be flags.
What?

Robby (48:44):
I don't know.
So they go stop, stop, let's befriends.

George (48:46):
What's his name?
What was I saying?
Yeah, like that's for me.
There should be consequencesfor that.
I look at that and go cool, youwant to do that.
Like Trump said, you want toburn the Australian flag, you
get a year in jail, that's it.
No fucking around you.
You.
You're come here, you're gone,lock them up.

Robby (49:04):
Yeah, I don't think that should be tolerated.

George (49:06):
You're burning a country's flag in the country,
like that is one of the worstthings you can do.
I think the country that ishosting you whether you're a
visitor or whether you are aresident and you come and do
that here, that should befucking good on him for doing

(49:27):
that.
We're too soft.
Good on him.
No, no, as in Trump, the samefor that law that he put on.

Robby (49:34):
We're too laid back.

George (49:38):
Yeah.

Robby (49:38):
Ah, she'll be right.
You know what I mean.

George (49:41):
Yeah Well, I mean, I didn't even know about that
story until you told me.

Robby (49:44):
That was viral.
There you go.
Surprised, I didn't see it Afew weeks back when they had the
.
Did you see the big when theharbour bridge whatever the
what's the bridge they have inSydney the Sydney harbour bridge
is it?
And it was covered in people.

George (49:57):
yeah, right, walking across um, but even then, what
did that?
What did that achieve?
What did that?
Exactly, I didn't even see yeah, you know what I mean.
This is where the governmentjust look at oh cool it's a day
of interruption.
I'm not driving down that sideof town today.

Robby (50:14):
So what should people do?

George (50:17):
I reckon there needs to be unity, but are you going to
get it?
What else can you do?
I don't know the answer.
There has to be unity at eitherthe voting booths or unity with
, as I said, hurling shit atParliament House, like there's
got to be something there and itcan't be just the 31st of

(50:37):
August and then doesn't happenagain.

Robby (50:39):
But isn't that what they're doing?

George (50:42):
It could be yeah, that could be the first step, and
then maybe they go cool, we'regoing to be back here next week,
next Sunday, we're all backhere next Sunday, and then we're
back here next Sunday, andwe're back here next Saturday,
and you know what, we'll do iton Wednesday too, for a while I
don't know, will they have?
weekly, no idea.
I think I remember it beingmore prevalent during COVID, if

(51:02):
anything, but not since then.
And again, like I'm so focusedon doing my own shit and trying
to win the game and not worryabout that too.
So I think there's a level ofthat for me.
I try and go well cool, I'mjust going to try and rise above
the rules that are here.

Robby (51:17):
So what has to happen for you to be like enough?

George (51:22):
That have to significantly personally affect
me.
It's not there now.
I don't think it's there yet.
No, yet I'm implying it'scoming.
No, I don't think it's therenow.
I don't think so.
Still, like I said, so manygood things about this country
too.
We sort of bash the policies,but it's safe.
I walk outside and I feel safe.

(51:43):
I don't know about you, butI'll go get a coffee and feel
all right about it.

Robby (51:47):
You know, I don't watch the news at all, like at all at
all.
I don't watch the news at all,like at all at all.
And people who do watch thenews, like they have a whole
different perspective on things.
Yeah, yeah, interesting Peopleare like I talk to people and
they're like the world's out ofcontrol and I'm like what do you
mean?
Like all these robberies andblah?
And I'm like what?

George (52:07):
are you talking about?
I don't hear about it either,and they're like you haven't
heard about all these robberieshappening.
I was actually speaking toSimon the other day in our
office and he was saying becauseif you actually look at the
stats, because our crime rate isdown from this time five years
ago or six years ago, whateverit is because there's less
people committing crimes thanthere ever has been.
And yet it's like you're hearingabout these kids with machetes.

(52:28):
It's a group of kids that havedone this and now it's getting
all the publicity.
So, yeah, you're right in notlistening to mainstream media.

Robby (52:35):
I think that news travels much faster now.

George (52:38):
I also think there's people who say to me like it
wasn't like this 30 years ago.

Robby (52:42):
And I say, dude, you just didn't know about it.

George (52:44):
You just didn't know about it.

Robby (52:45):
Yeah, it wasn't like this 30 years ago.
How old are you?
30.
What the fuck Like?
What are you?
You were born 30 years ago,like you know, and everyone
thinks, we.
It's a human tendency todemonize the now and the future

(53:07):
and praise the past.
Yeah, like the good old days.
The good old days.
There's no one that hasn'theard that saying the good old
days.
What am I talking about?
This is the good days now.

George (53:17):
Right now.
This is sick.
You'll be looking at this dayin the future, going the good
old days.
You're living in the good olddays right now, yeah.
Whether you know it or not,you're living in it.
Yeah, another way I would combatit is I would subscribe to this
podcast.
That's how I would do it.
That would help everyone.
Support the people.
It would help everyone.
That's it.
Support this, support me.

(53:39):
Send some donations our way.
We'll put it to the fund tochange people's lives.
I'm going to change everyone'slife through this podcast Me and
you will change it.
Make everyone understand theway that it is about giving us
the money, not them.

Robby (53:55):
Well, we do have episode 100 coming up.

George (53:59):
We do.
What an achievement Well done.
Not there yet Not there yet.
What could happen Might stopnext week, who knows?
But another way we could changethings and make people better
and the country better is whenwe do our live events.
People could come to a liveevent and you guys could come to
a live event and see both of usgiving you a whole bunch of

(54:21):
knowledge bombs, and that's theBuilder Summit which is coming
up on Tuesday, the 2nd ofSeptember.
So by the time this airs, thenext day we will have the
Melbourne Builder Summit andthen two days later in Sydney.
So if you are in theconstruction industry and
wanting to get the most out ofyour business and learn a few
nuggets of gold that me andRobbie both know and will share,
and go deep, buy a ticket orget one for free.

(54:44):
I can even give you one forfree.
That's how much we want to getyou there.
All you have to do is figure itout.
Go to one of our social pages,go to the website, go wherever
you want to go and you will finda ticket.
That's buildarelitecomau.
Or you can visit me at any ofthe tags georgepassus, generally
speaking, and same with Robbie.

(55:04):
That's where you can find us.
That's where we will be nextweek.
We'll be there.
What a life.
Tuesday, melbourne, thursday,sydney that's where we will be
next week We'll be there.

Robby (55:11):
What a life.
Tuesday, melbourne, thursday.

George (55:15):
Sydney and then Friday, the world.

Robby (55:16):
If you're there, come and say hello and let us know you
listen.

George (55:18):
Yes, let us know If you come up and let us know that you
listen to the podcast at theevent, we'll give you a million
dollar days hat Jesus.
Don't know if we might have toorder some more, but we will
give you one.
Why don't we give you my one?
Well, you heard it here first.
All right, well, let'shopefully get some positive

(55:39):
change in this country.
Let's hope that there are a fewpeople that when you ask them
what are you going to do aboutit, they actually get up and do
something about it.
Be it politicians, be it anindividual person, create.
Create some change.

Robby (55:52):
Yeah.

George (55:52):
Because that would be great.

Robby (55:53):
I truly believe I don't follow it because it doesn't
change my behavior.
Just the same way you're sayingit doesn't change your behavior
, Like in the sound.
What are you going to do aboutit?
Nothing, Nothing.
It's like well, what's theinformation?
The purpose of information isto change what I'm doing.
What's the purpose?
Just get riled up I doing.
What's the purpose?

(56:13):
What?
Just get riled up.
I can't believe they did thisand then go on with your day.

George (56:16):
Yeah, do something, do something.
All right, guys.
Thank you so much for tuning inonce again, hoping you're
having a million dollar day andwe will see you next week.
Thanks everyone.