May 4, 2025 • 51 mins
Are you filling your cup or just escaping responsibility? This thought-provoking discussion explores the entrepreneur's eternal struggle between productivity and leisure.
Starting with a lighthearted conversation about gaming and professional ambitions, we quickly uncover the guilt many successful people feel when taking time away from work. Is playing video games truly a wasteful distraction, or could it be the very thing that replenishes your creative energy? We explore how different forms of escapism—from watching Netflix to taking vacations—are judged with varying levels of scrutiny, often unfairly.
The conversation shifts to what we call "self-development junkies"—those who attend every seminar, read all the books, yet never implement what they learn. We examine why knowledge without action is essentially worthless, and how a person who reads one book but takes action will always outperform someone who consumes endless content without implementation. Through personal stories and observations from our own entrepreneurial journeys, we offer insights on breaking this cycle.
Perhaps most powerfully, we discuss how entrepreneurs are often the primary cap on their business's potential. The limiting beliefs, fears, and habits that prevent you from taking action are likely the very things holding your business back from extraordinary growth.
Whether you're building a business, pursuing personal growth, or simply trying to find balance in a success-driven world, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on what truly matters for long-term fulfillment and achievement. Ready to stop collecting knowledge and start implementing it? This conversation might be the catalyst you need.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm thinking about a career change.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you going to empire the UFC?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No, I'm going to become a full-time gamer.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, I would do that .
I'm telling you right now.
Listen, anyone who knows me, ifyou know me and you've known me
for quite some time you willknow that I cannot be beaten in
FIFA.
No shit, I never got into FIFA.
Yeah, it's a man's thing oh isit?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I thought that's what it was.
I think that's why I neverwanted to play it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, fifa is arguably one of the greatest
games.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What about COD?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, I was okay, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There was people who could, yeah, so you played the
sport where they fell over andwhen no one touched them.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
but then actually, killing each other Story of my
life.
Story of my life.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, I'd be curious.
I wonder what's one of thebiggest.
Actually, I know what thebiggest game in the world is
Fortnite.
No, I wonder what's one of thebiggest.
Actually, I know what thebiggest game in the world is
Fortnite.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No, I would have said World of Warcraft.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh yeah, maybe I'm curious.
I'm going to Google that now.
I used to.
I think it's Roblox.
Oh yeah, you're probably right,Roblox.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Roblox.
What is the most played game,should I say in the world?
Yeah, Most played Popular.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I would love if anyone's listening to this and
you're a gamer in any way.
I would love to know how I canget into it professionally.
I would dedicate time to this.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I did not think it would be.
That Is it actually it noCounter-Strike.
What Nah, counter-strike 2.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There's no way, dude, it's the most played video game
globally, at least in terms ofPC.
Can you put 2025 in there?
Okay, this guy's using his 2014Apple iPhone and he's searching
PC.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, I just said video game.
Most played video game,counter-strike and Go what the
hell is Go.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Let me use a real Google Go is Counter-Strike.
Most Go is Can't Restraint mostplayed game, global offensive
Can't Restraint Minecraft, whichhas sold over 300 million
copies.
I said I've read what is themost played video game in the
world in 2025 followed by PUBGand Fortnite and Roblox.
There you go, anywho, back towhat I was saying.
(02:20):
If anyone's listening to thisand you're a professional gamer,
I would love to know how I canstart a Twitch stream, a YouTube
channel, whatever it is, andjust destroy everyone in FIFA,
because that's my jam.
I'll add, though caveat, likeI'm rusty.
I don't spend a lot of timedoing it right now, but give me
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two weeks and I will be my prime.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I haven't picked up a PlayStation remote to play
video game for at least a year,I reckon.
I just find at the moment, asmuch as I enjoy it, like it's
something I wouldn't mind doing.
I just feel at the moment it'ssuch a distraction and I feel
like it's a waste of time.
What are your hobbies?
I just feel at the moment it'ssuch a distraction and I feel
like it's a waste of time.
What are your hobbies?
My hobbies I like water sports,so jet skiing I'd say that's a
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hobby.
I enjoy going to the football.
What do you do on the jet ski?
Just cruise, just to go aroundin a few circles.
It's not you know what.
I've been doing it for so longthat I don't get the kick I used
to when I was 23 years old.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, but like don't you get, so you just yeah,
cruise around for a bit and thendo a couple donuts and then
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Then go back to shore , sit on the beach, then Nicole
will take it out with the key,I'll take my son out, might take
some friends out, that's aboutit.
It's better when you got peopleto go around with, for sure,
for sure, yeah, like my.
My brother-in-law's got one now.
So we go cruising, sometimeslike to go down.
For me, an ideal day out on theski would be going from here to
st, from st kilda down todramana, like just go do a whole
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day trip all the way down there, all the way back one time I
would enjoy that yes, one tank.
Yeah, yeah, you'll get there oneone tank.
What else?
What else do I do?
I like going to the footballand watching the football, so I
would say that's a hobby of mine.
Other than that, not too muchmore.
I don't mind reading every nowand then.
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It's not a hobby, isn't it?
I don't know, do you sit therelike hobby time?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, let's go, let's read a book.
That's not fair.
For some people it is.
For me it's not definitely, butI do think it's an important
thing that you should consumeinformation in some way.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, other than that , man.
I mean, is work a hobby?
Can you consider that a hobbyBusiness?
No, what is it?
Is hobby just by definition,something like you do for
leisure and fun?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
If I had to define hobby, I would say something
that feeds your soul.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, but then business could be that for some
people.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
No, I don't know anyone who does business and
feeds their soul.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You reckon, alex Hormozy doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He says it.
Whether it's true or not, he'sa unique individual.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, true, I agree with that.
Yeah, I mean, other than that Iprobably don't have too much
more.
Do you know what I've alwayswanted to do?
Because I keep watching hisvideos.
Matt Armstrong Shout out toMatt Armstrong in the UK I want
to build a car.
I want to buy a car and justrebuild it and just do sick shit
.
Why?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
don't you do it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I just don't have space I could put it in my
warehouse.
Ware warehouse is fucking agesaway from my house, so it's like
I know if I had the car, itwould just sit there gather dust
.
I wouldn't work on it.
I'd really want it to be in mygarage, and my garage currently
don't think it's big enough.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It has a jet I can move that that's not the issue.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just don't.
I think you almost need to doit competently.
You kind of need like a doublegarage at least, because you're
going to need space to movearound in, and mine's more of a
single garage.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Definition of a hobby A small horse or a pony.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, you're using the wrong type of Google.
That's Mongolian.
That's Mongolian.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Google For sure.
Actual definition An activitydone regularly in one's leisure
time for pleasure.
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Something fun I mean video games could fall into that
category.
I enjoy you go.
Something fun, I mean videogames could fall into that
category.
I enjoy doing that.
So yes, yep, yeah, I would dothat, other than that, not too
much more.
So what do you mean?
Is gym a hobby?
Could be, I suppose.
Do I go there to have fun?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
no, not always yeah it's like one of those like it's
like a good hobby, like a goodhabit to have.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, but like but as I said, like I, I genuinely
could see myself spending awhole day playing video games,
from morning till night, justsitting on the couch.
Grab a pizza, grab some drinksdon't talk to me plug into the
Matrix and just play all day.
At the end of that day, I wouldfeel like a horrible human
being in my current life likewhat I'm doing right now.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's very interesting .
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I just feel right a horrible human being in
my current life, like what I'mdoing right now.
It's very interesting.
Yeah.
I just feel right now, whereI'm at in my life, like we're
talking about wanting all thesethings in abundance.
I feel that that is sodetrimental to getting all those
things that I want.
You could say, arguably well,it fills your cup.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah.
Do you think you would be abetter human after that day?
No, no, you don't think youwould be a better human after
that day.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, no, you don't think you'd be a better human?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't think look me you don't think you would be
yeah, this is sideways.
So you don't think you would bebetter off having done that
thing that doesn't benefit yourprimary goal, but benefits the
person that's driving theprimary goal?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I honestly don't think so.
I don't think it filled me upthat much.
I don't know.
It's a tough one.
Yeah, do you get what I'msaying though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, because you look at it and you're like, hey,
this like if my ultimate goalis around business, and then
it's like, okay, but who'sdriving that?
I am, but if I do somethinglike for me, it's like I go
camping.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'll go into the bush for a couple of days, and I
enjoy that too.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Every now and again I enjoy doing the outdoor stuff I
do, mate.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm an OG.
I've known you for two years.
I've never been way over twoyears.
I've, I will, fucking, I will.
You would flip the day we gocamping.
You will flip out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You'd be like take Iggy before you leave, 100%.
You'd be like where did thisguy come from?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
that's a yes.
I'll believe him when I see itstart a fire with sticks and
everything.
Don't you?
That's how long you've beencamping?
Don't you think feeding thatperson from a different avenue?
Yeah, I do, I'll give youanother example Having kids does
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not in any way benefit yourbusiness.
Yes, right, there's no upsideto benefiting your business, but
I know a lot of people who havekids and then get serious about
their part of life because it'sfeeding the person who is
driving that thing, yep, so youobviously don't believe that
spending and not spending awhole day maybe spending an hour
(08:52):
on a Sunday night once the kidshave gone to bed, and you've
had your day night for that week.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a good one.
Maybe I'm just looking at it inthe wrong way, possibly I think
it might be the case, because Ijust I'll just look at it it
might be a complete distractionyeah, I know, and that's what I
would hate because I would getinto that.
I used to play.
I always liked playing.
What's it called?
What's the type of format whereyou're playing a character?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
you play a character and you go do yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But what's it actually called?
When you're playing a characterand you're going and doing
missions and doing shit likethat, what's the what's the
what's?
It's more of a role play game.
What's the game?
Oh, I got assassin's creed.
So I love games like that,where I'm the character, I go do
missions, I go do a whole bunchof things.
I got the person, you levelthem up, you do a whole bunch of
stuff like that.
So traditionally, assassinscreed's been like the one game
(09:45):
I've been playing for years,because you, you go one game,
the last couple of iterations ofit anyway, they just go for
fucking 100 hours.
But you get 100 hours in gaytime, just actually oh really,
yeah, it's a long I think so,yeah, like it's.
It's one of those world typegames where you can do as much
(10:05):
as it as you want yeah, yeahyeah, and I do because I tend to
also like the story that comeswith it and I like the
entertainment.
Yeah, I mean, I do, thoughthat's what I'm saying, so I'll
play that game.
And then it's like well, I'mnot just going to play it for an
hour on sunday, I'm going toplay it sunday, yeah, monday
night and then tuesday night and, and then.
Monday night, and then Tuesdaynight, and then Thursday night,
and then the kids will go to bedand then I'll play it again
(10:26):
that night and then I think, asthat progresses, it's like fuck,
look at all this time I'vewasted playing this video game
where I could have been doingthis, I could have been reading,
I could have whatever it mightbe.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yes, I think you can waste time.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I feel I would fall into that trap, which is
why I tend to be in extremeswhen I play it.
I'll go and not play videogames for a year, but then I'll
turn it back and go all right,I'm going to play it solidly for
the next month.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, but you must genuinely have the belief that
you're not a better human forhaving played it Perhaps,
perhaps, do you know when Irealized.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, maybe it's a bit of escapism, do you?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
know when I was playing video games a lot during
.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
COVID, I lived on Call of.
Duty.
Yeah, but I was playing it.
I think, looking back and evenduring the moment I was playing
it, to just unplug from all thestresses in my life.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think that might have.
That could be a good thing, butmaybe that's why I have a bit
of bad association with it atthe moment.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
There's lots of things that are escapism, but
there's nothing wrong withwatching movies.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Movies are escapism, and I do that all the time yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Watching a TV show is escapism.
Watching Netflix is escapism,without a doubt it is.
You're escaping from thecurrent reality and distracting
your brain with something else,but I just think it's.
We demonize the video game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
A holiday is escapism .
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It is.
You're separating yourself fromwhat is current reality and
saying I'm going to change myenvironment now and go over
there.
But, I don't think there'sanything wrong with it.
In my opinion, it's only whenyou're overdoing it, yes, and
you're not facing something.
That's when it becomes aproblem.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, but look, if it's stopping you from taking
action and getting things done,then it's probably not the right
thing.
But I think sometimes you needto do some things that are going
to help you take those actionsas well, and if that means
playing a game or reading a bookor going on the jet ski, you've
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got to do that shit.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, gotta do that shit.
Yeah, I think that's reallyimportant.
I think you do.
Yeah, but the longest time.
I also felt that I didn't needto do that either as in any of
that stuff, just wanted to workon the business yeah, but that's
okay too, yeahI agree, yeah, okay, because I
did feel like that for a periodof time and even my wife would
tell me off.
My dad would always tell me off.
It's like what did you do theother day?
(12:47):
Oh, literally the day we gotback from Vegas, I was in the
office, came here in the officeand I was working and my dad
calls me and says hey, what areyou doing?
He goes how was your trip Good?
He goes go home, relax.
I'm like, hey, you relax, I'vegot shit to do.
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But for me it wasn't a chorebeing here.
I wasn't.
Oh, I've got to go to thefucking office.
What else am I going to do?
I was going to sit at home andwatch TV.
Why not be here and beproductive and do work For me?
I never really felt that I getvery motivated being at work
Sunday nights.
I'm ready, like I'm ready, togo Monday.
Let's fucking go, I've got shitto do.
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That helps me as far as beinghere, because I don't.
I felt that if I didn't, if I,if this was a drainer to me
being at work.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I think of the type of personality that I would stop
doing it.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I guess you're looking at the games as escapism
.
Then I think 100% I am yeah,and that's probably why I don't
pick it up to start playing.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, I mean this is a cool topic because you know a
lot of people would beoverworked.
I find that a lot of peoplespecifically in construction as
well, and even more so if you'rea trade.
You tend to be workingthroughout the day and then you
come home and you jump on thecomputer and do quotes, so your
day doesn't finish when you gethome.
Even though you might be 7 to3.30, you knock off at 3.30,
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then you come home and you got15 emails from 15, 100 emails
from different builders pricethis job, do this job.
So then you got to sit thereand price up a project whilst
your family's inside eatingdinner or whilst your kids are
in bed.
Whilst your family's in bedyou're pricing work and then
you're doing invoicing, thenyou're reconciling accounts,
then you're ordering materialfor the next day.
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So a lot of the time, I reckonbusiness owners may not feel the
opportunity for them to be ableto switch off and fill their
cup up with things that theyenjoy doing.
Do you think a lot of businessowners would fall into that trap
?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
No no.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I don't have sympathy for that, or empathy, or
whatever, it's not the sympathy,but it's more them not filling
up their cup.
Do you feel that people would?
Just from what I gather andfrom what I've seen with a lot
of people that own their ownbusiness is that they're always
on, they tend not to switch offand they tend to bring a lot of
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that stuff home with them andthen they let go of the holidays
, they let go of going out, theylet go of the things that fill
their cup up.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, but so like my thing with anything around, that
is always like I refuse to be,to believe that I'm a victim for
anything in my life.
Oh, without a doubt, likeanything, and if I'm not going
to, if you're doing the samething as me, I'm not going to
feel sorry for you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm not.
I'm just not.
Oh man, I've heard this greatthing on Diary of a CEO the
other day, okay it was.
He was talking to some lady andshe was saying how, if you go
through adversity or throughdifficult aspects in your life,
you know something reallydifficult, really hard, that you
have worked extremely hard toget through.
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You went through all theturmoil, the blood, sweat and
tears and you get through it.
You actually have less empathyfor people going through that
same process because you're like, hey, toughen up, I've done it,
fucking, go.
Yeah.
And that's how I feel.
Yeah, me too.
And once they said that I waslike, wow, I feel the same when
something comes up now, it'slike I'm almost annoyed, whereas
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you should be like, oh, I feelfor you, brother, I've been
through that.
That was hard.
But now I'm like, hey, shut thefuck up, hurry up and get it
done.
This is part of the game.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You don't like it, stop playing.
Also, you chose to open abusiness.
You can go get a job, dude,this is a very comfortable
country we live in.
Yeah, you know what I mean youcan go and get a 9 to 5 anywhere
and clock off at 5.30 and behome by 6 and do all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And if it makes you happy, like we said before, yeah
, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Do that you win?
Yeah, but do I feel sorry forpeople who are driving to get
more?
No, if anything, I'm excitedfor you.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
yeah, exactly yeah, you're doingquotes on our sick, though wait
till you can finally putsomeone on to do those quotes
for you, and then eventually youknow what I mean.
And it's like this is a game.
I see business as a game.
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Yeah, it is, do you know?
And that's what.
Like I don't, I have zero.
I hadn't heard what you said.
That I find it very interesting, but I have zero.
I don't feel bad yeah at all.
I don't feel bad.
And I don't feel bad whenpeople try and say things to me
like oh, you know, oh, butbecause you're a man, this, oh,
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because of your background, this, oh, but because you grew up
here, this, and I said, no, good, I'm going up against, like I
went to, like a real goodexample.
I went to a public school.
I went to a shit school.
Dude, I didn't even finish highschool, didn't you?
No, did I know that?
Maybe I don't know, but when Igo up against people and they're
like private school, blah, blah, blah, I fucking love it, cause
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I sit there like let me showyou, like that doesn't make a
difference, I'm going to knockyou out the park here.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You know what I?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
mean it kind of fucking drives me.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's what my son said,this the other day, when we're
talking about him.
Uh, when we passed thisLamborghini, I said to him he
cause he was watching it onYouTube and he goes, he was
watching something.
He said most millionaires neverfinished high school.
Most people that are ultimatelyreally hugely successful have
never even finished high school.
I said you know why that is?
It's because they tend to thinkdifferently to everyone else.
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Everyone else has been taughtto do something in a certain way
and they've gone.
Well, how about I do it thisway?
It's indoctrination.
Yeah, school, without a doubtit is.
Yeah, without a doubt it isnothing.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's a bad thing, but like look, it's necessary for
the economy.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I suppose Not every single person can be a business
owner.
You know people need that needsa workforce.
People need to do the do, soyou're going to need people to
do that and that's what,effectively, the school system
does is breed the workforce forthe country.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And those that go out and start their own business or
do something differently tendto reap the rewards, but it does
come with a lot of um, a lot ofchallenges along the way, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, and I have zero empathy, sympathy I don't know
what the word is.
I don't know what thedifference between those two
words is.
One is like I feel for you, theother one's like.
Difference between those twowords is one is like I feel for
you, the other one's like Iunderstand or something, but
tomato zero, zero zilch zero,and if you feel sorry for
yourself, then I feel sorry foryou play some video games play
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some video games, do somesomething like, take some action
.
You know I mean talking about,um, filling up your cup, over,
overworking, quoting and thatthe opposite end of that is like
the person who does nothing Doyou know what I mean?
Or does the stuff that makesthem feel like they're doing
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stuff but does nothing?
And we all know people likethis.
We all know people who areclaiming that they're doing a
whole bunch of stuff by doingthe stuff that doesn't actually
move the needle.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You know I read 52 books this year and it's like
great.
What have you done?
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I've been to this seminar.
I bought this training.
I did this, yeah.
Or I've applied for 20 jobsthis week and you don't.
You're not working, no.
What the fuck else are youdoing?
How long will it take you?
An hour, yeah.
What are you doing the rest ofyour time?
Why don't you apply for 20 jobsan hour?
Do you know what I mean?
And it's like which end of thespectrum would you rather be at?
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Would you rather be the personwho's constantly working and
getting shit done and moving theneedle in the direction that
they want in their life?
Would you rather be the?
We all know like?
There's a term for it in thepersonal development world.
Everyone knows someone who's a.
You've all seen the person thatyou've seen at a training and
(21:04):
then gone to a differenttraining and seen the same
person.
And they're in the sameposition, doing the exact same
shit.
And the term for this you mayhave heard it or not, but it's a
self-development junkie.
And they're the person who goesand listens to all the
trainings and takes all thenotes and write everything down
and be like, yeah, it's reallygood.
And then does nothing with itbecause the feeling of feeling
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like they're doing something hassatiated them enough, as
opposed to actually doing the do.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, and we've been to plenty of those courses
over the years and seen thosepeople.
You know they go there, theykeep doing those things, being
in the event space now andrunning events.
You see the same facessometimes and the same names pop
up Like oh yeah, you came tothis last year, you came to this
a couple of years ago, you cameto this last month and you're
(21:54):
back again.
Great Good that you're takingaction.
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextone?
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextone?
And yeah, I feel that they feelmotivated in the moment and
they may do stuff in the daysfollowing, but then it drops off
.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Why do you reckon it does?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, we spoke about motivation.
I think it's a lack ofdiscipline as well.
They don't hold themselvesaccountable to go.
Okay, I've spent $2,000 on thiscourse, Now I need to go and
take it to the next level and dowhat I've learned.
So they'll do it once, twice,maybe not get the result they
thought, and go.
Well, this doesn't work.
I'm just too busy.
I'm going to keep processinginvoices.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Have you ever lacked discipline in a particular area?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, without a doubt .
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Over another one.
What?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
do you?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
mean so like?
Have you ever, you know, beendisciplined with work?
Yeah, but haven't been going tothe gym.
Oh without a doubt, or beendisciplined with the gym, not
gone to work but not feedingyour relationships.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, without a doubt .
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So what is it?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I think it's for me, the way I see it, it's a matter
of priority.
I think it's a, for me, the wayI see it, it's a matter of
priority.
I think it's a matter ofpriority as far as what's
important to you at that momentin time.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But they're obviously doing the thing because they
feel like they're doingsomething.
Yeah, they're going to theevent, they're showing up.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They feel like they're Well, maybe it's
self-awareness then, isn't it?
Maybe they feel like they'reimproving each time they come to
these events.
That's why they love goingthere, because they do.
They get that hit and go.
Well, cool, that was great.
I learned something I didn'tknow the other day, and maybe
they do implement a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
People get addicted to that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
They get addicted to thatfeeling of going on.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I feel like I'm doing .
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Also, the FOMO aspect of it, too, would kick in.
They don't want to miss out.
It was so good last time.
I don't want to miss out andnot learn something or connect
with this person Again.
I've got to go to this thing.
So an example that I can thinkof just straight off the bat is
(23:58):
we've gone both of you and Ihave done a full training, spent
tens of thousands of dollars onhow to speak on stage.
Now let's just say in our classof people say the people that
we went from stage one to stagethree all the way through there
was probably 50, 60 people thatwent through that whole series
of training.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Thereabouts.
How many speakers have come out?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
of that, I couldn't.
I could count them on one hand,on one hand.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that's right.
So you're talking, say, lessthan 5%, less than 5% of people
who have paid the same money asus to learn those skills have
actually used those skills intheir day-to-day life or their
business.
Now they might go oh, no, no,I'm a professional speaker now
because I've got the training.
But why do it?
What was the point?
(24:44):
If being on stage and speakingin front of tens of thousands of
people, or 100 people or 50people, if that was never going
to be part of what yourdevelopment needed to be in your
life or business, why go andspend that money?
And I think there was anelement again of that oh, I
don't want to miss out.
Oh, I've done the first levelof that.
Oh, I don't want to miss out,I've done the first level.
(25:05):
I may as well finish the secondand third level.
So I can say I'm a certifiedNLP coach.
Or I can say I'm a You'recertified, I'm certified.
I've got a tattoo on my back aswell.
But that's just one course I'mthinking of.
But I've been to other oneswhere it's the exact same thing
too.
People didn't action post thattraining.
(25:27):
Recently this year, we went toLas Vegas and went to a few
seminars there as well.
I looked at that.
I was like, well, have Iactioned anything out of those
trainings?
The answer is yes, minor, major.
If I didn't think it wasbeneficial, why would I action
it?
Why would I go there and go oh,I better go and review that and
learn that and implement that.
If I didn't think it wasbeneficial, why would I action
it?
Like, why would I go there andgo oh, better go and review that
and learn that and implementthat if I'm doing something
better.
(25:49):
But I always go there with theintent of it of me leaving there
and to implement something andlook, you might go to one of
these things and not learnanything and go.
Look, that wasn't necessarilyfor me.
I don't think I'm going tobenefit from that.
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But you always learn something.
Yeah, like even if it's whatnot to do Exactly.
Exactly right, you're just likeokay, cool, I'm not doing that
Exactly right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, Good to know that otherpeople are going to be doing
that, so I can combat that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I mean With whatever it is that you're offering.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, absolutely so my advice to anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I think they get in their own way more than anything
.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, but people who get in their own way don't know,
they're getting in their ownway.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, or self-awareness, but you can't
teach that.
How do you teach it?
I try and call people up on itsometimes when I go to events.
No, but at events, because I'mlimited with my time.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
When people say, oh, I really want to join your
program, well, fucking join it.
No, you can.
You can join it.
You go, put pen to paper, youtap the fucking card and then
you go and join it.
Oh yeah, but at the moment,okay, man, like you are getting
in your own way, you are gettingin your own way, you are making
this not happen right now.
It's not me, it's you, becauseif I had the cure for cancer and
(27:06):
you had cancer and all you hadto do was go and tap that card,
you would fucking tap it,wouldn't you?
Yes, because you know what I'mgoing to give you is going to
help you and solve your problems.
So what is the disconnect?
Why aren't you tapping?
Why are you getting in your ownway?
What constraint are you puttingthere?
(27:31):
Sometimes you have to be thatblunt with people, but again,
sometimes even that extremeexample doesn't always work
either, I think there's probablyan element of fear around it
too.
Fear of what?
Fear of failure, fear of lossIf they invest the money and it
doesn't work out.
Fear of their own inadequaciesin their abilities.
Maybe that's why they don'ttake the action.
What's your biggest fear?
I don't, I mean personally inbusiness.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Just in general, I guess in business, I mean, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, professionally, I don't really know, I don't
really focus on it, should I I?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
don't know if you should focus on it, but you
should.
Know what it is.
If it's existent, you should beaware of it, like I could say
mine would be.
Like my thing and I think thishelps me push forward is I don't
want to look back and say, fuckman, I should have you know
what.
I mean it's like the fear ofregret.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
See, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's like if you died tomorrow touch wood, if you
died tomorrow, would you be likeor you knew you were dying
tomorrow and would you go shit.
I didn't do that.
One thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, no, not that, not like that.
More like, uh, like if I, if Iwas laying on my deathbed to
look back and be like gave it ashake yeah, you know what I mean
.
Like fucking gave it a good spin.
Yeah, as opposed to like fuckme through the motion.
I'm so worried about what thosepeople are thinking about me,
and it's like who gives a fuck,do you know?
(29:01):
I mean, there's people thathave walked this earth that are
gone now that no one will everspeak about again, and there's a
good fucking chance that we'reall going to be just like that.
Do you know what I mean?
And believe what you want aboutafterlife, et cetera religious,
not religious.
The fact of the matter is thatyou're here now and One day you
(29:21):
won't be, One day you won't be.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
This and you're here now.
One day you won't be.
One day you won't be.
This podcast will be forever,though, and the only way that
people could forever listen tothis podcast is if they
subscribe and their children'schildren's children then also
subscribe.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Let me see all my great granddad was subscribed to
.
That's right, million DollarsDays.
Is that all, george and Robbie?
Is that all it was?
Well, yeah, that's all milkthat's how we buy milk now, what
are they talking about?
Is that all they made?
Wow, these guys were trying toget milk every day.
Uh, good, um, and that's sofunny.
(29:55):
Geez, shouldn't aimed bigger,you're gonna have to change the
neon sign yeah, uh, but yeah,that's that's like, and I think
that pushes me forward, becausethen it's like well, if not now,
when?
Like, what are you going tolike you?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
know what I mean.
I wouldn't say that's a fear,but it is a motivating factor.
It's a fear, no for me, I'msaying, not for you.
Oh yeah, as in, as in, thatbeing a fear of mine, to give it
a nudge and to do everything Ineed to do Because I feel that
I'm on that path.
I feel that I am kind of there.
But I always feel that there ismore too.
(30:29):
This comes back to the wholevideo game things.
I always feel that level ofguilt Fuck, I should be doing
this, I should be doing this, Ishould be doing this instead.
So I do ask myself the questionas well Should I be doing more?
Should I be going and investingin the stock market?
My old man's on to me about itheaps over the last six months.
Open up your account, get itready, get it ready, you've got
(30:50):
to buy, you've got to buy,you've got to buy.
I'm like, fuck, okay, I will,but I'm doing so much.
Is that a distraction?
Or should I fucking do it andhave that going and have this
going and have this going andhave that going and have this
going and have this going?
So I do feel that I'm shakingthings up, but I always feel
like I can do more too.
(31:12):
But I just like to challengemyself a little bit too, and I
mean that's probably a deciding,one of the main reasons why,
whenever I go to these events, Imake it a priority of mine to
actually action shit out of thatevent, not just take it in,
never look at it again, move on,and maybe that's what people
(31:32):
lack.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Which part.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
They lack that-.
Taking the action, yeah to takethe action, but also again
we're saying this self-awareness.
Maybe they need to tap into whythey're going there in the
first place.
Why are you actually goingthere?
Something we did that waspowerful the other day was
getting people to write downtheir intent at the start of the
day.
I felt that that had a hugeimpact on the room, like why are
(31:58):
you actually here?
Forget the fact that you're hereto try and like what do you
want, selfishly, out of thisroom today?
What do you want out of it?
And I think that's good toactually go.
You know what?
Fuck?
Tell me.
Do you want to learn how tomake a million bucks today?
Is that what it is in this room?
Write that down.
Do you want to learn how toscale your business to $50
(32:23):
million?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, isn't it also a form of procrastination?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, which, what is?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The not taking action like the saying I've got to do
like, wait till I'm going to goback to built mastery.
You know what I mean, cause Iknow that when I go back now,
now I'm in a different positionand I'll go back now and then.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'll get what I need from it.
Yep, I guarantee you.
There's so many people.
When I did my last event, theyall said, man, we're in, we are
doing this Like, we are socommitted to this thing.
I want to do it.
I guarantee you, 90% of thosepeople will never join the
program.
Guarantee it, because they'rejust not going to come back, or
they'll look.
They may call me in a few yearstime when it hurts more, and
(33:04):
then they'll say, oh, you know,I should have joined up two
years ago.
Oh well, you should have.
Yeah, you would have had theresults by now.
But most of the people, as yousaid, I think they feel good in
the moment and then they leaveand then it's like all their
limiting beliefs come back.
Maybe they go home and speak totheir partner.
Maybe they go home and they'llspeak to their wife or their
(33:27):
husband and go hey, I've beenthinking about joining this
program.
It's $40,000.
It's $50,000.
What?
Do you know?
How much the mortgage is thisweek Really, how are you going
to pay for the school fees?
How are you going to do this?
You're going to go spend thatmuch money on this.
And then they talk yeah, you'reright, sorry, yeah, it's not
the right thing for us right now.
(33:48):
And then they again, thatlimiting belief talks them out
of it.
And then they just go to thenext training because, oh, maybe
I'll just learn that one thinghere and I don't have to spend
that much money, or I don't haveto spend that much time.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I think there's many factors.
There's a lot of differentreasons why people don't, but
there comes a point I thinkpeople need to connect the dots.
I think people need to.
I used to always say this Iused to smoke, a long time ago,
ciggies and I used to.
I quit like that from out ofnowhere and I used to always
(34:29):
tell people like if you, if youstill smoke, if anyone can
listen to this, if you stillsmoke, if you're, if you still
smoke, if anyone can listen tothis, if you still smoke, you
haven't made the connectionbetween you punching those dots
and you and your deathbed fromcause.
Cause it's killing you.
That's just a reality.
(34:50):
And I think people need toconnect the dots like that, like
in the sense of, if I don'ttake this leap, no matter how
scary, whatever it is, that nextstep of action is calling that
person, doing that thing, buyingthat program, whatever it is,
you know, getting that coach orwhatever it is for you.
In your next step, you need tomake the connection between that
(35:11):
and what it's going to cost youwhen you can't do it anymore.
You know what I mean.
Most people, if you make theconnection, especially if
someone's got kids, if you makethe connection between you
smoking ciggies and then you'renot going to see your kids grow
up because you get the calltomorrow and they say, oh, we
just picked up on this thing.
I guarantee you, if people canhave a dream about that, wake up
(35:36):
and they'll stop.
But they don't connect the dotsbecause it's too painful.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And they ignore it.
Yeah, you know what I mean andI think if you're a person who
goes to all these programs or,you know, reads a hundred books
a year, whatever it might be, aperson who reads one book a year
(36:03):
and takes the action from itmoves further than the person
who reads 100 and does nothing.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Knowledge is potential power.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's right, and it's like saying I think I've
got someone in the family,whatever it is a cousin or some
shit.
I think I've got someone in thefamily, whatever it is a cousin
or some shit.
They've gone to do, they'vegone to university and they've
got their degree and then theygot a master's degree and then
they got a doctorate degree ortheir doctorate in that field
(36:28):
let's just say it's accountingor some shit.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
A doctorate in accounting.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You get a doctorate, I think, in almost anything.
You get a doctorate inconstruction.
You know a doctorate, I think,in almost anything.
You get a doctorate inconstruction.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You know, now, when I fill out a form and it's like
what's your thing, I tick doctor, Do you?
Yeah, why not?
What are they going to do?
They say doctor to care.
I say yes.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What do you want?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Do you know?
When you jump on a plane, theyactually ask you more all of a
sudden You're picking its facemassively.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Huge Might get upgraded in life.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Excuse me, so you're a doctor.
Can you come?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
this way, nice.
What are we talking about now?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You were talking about your family friend.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yes, that's right.
So it's like they get thatdoctorate and then they end up
working at wherever Coles, Idon't know.
But my point is it's like oh,you're so smart.
They feel that sense ofaccomplishment and also
Acknowledgement.
Yeah, and acknowledgement Likeoh, I've got my doctorate in
(37:31):
accounting, I'm smart.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I went to RMIT.
I've done this, yeah, I've donethis?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Oh, I went to.
I've done this.
Yeah, I've done this.
Oh, I went to melbourneuniversity.
I've done 13, 15 years ofschool, of tertiary education.
I've written a thesis onaccounting and it's like you've
done nothing.
You live at home with yourfucking parents.
There's a great thing.
I mean like you've done nothingwith your fucking life.
Do you still follow bradley?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
yes, it's a great thing, brad, and he's like I
dropped out of high school, blah, blah, blah.
He's like.
Now he goes.
I've got two MBAs, four mastersand they all work for me.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So good, though so good.
Yeah, one of my old businesspartners used to say I'm a
C-grade student that employsA-grade people.
To say I'm a C-grade studentthat employs A-grade people, he
goes.
I never got anything over a Cat school when I was there and
he dropped out in year 10.
He goes, I'm a C-grade studentand I just got A-grades working
for me.
But yeah, that's just anexample of that type of person
(38:27):
that maybe these people go intothese trainings and events.
They just feel smarter and likethey're doing stuff just
because they've done thattraining course and they tick it
off.
Well, yeah, I'm a nlp coach,I'm a professional speaker, I've
been to this training, I'vedone tony robbins course, I've
done grand cardone's trainings.
Like I'm a professionalsalesperson now.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Like because that's what we're taught to do in
school, correct?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
yeah, that's right, as long as you get the
certificates and you do thisthing, then you're accomplished.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You are the best.
Yeah, there's this.
One image that I've seen, andprobably most of you have seen
it too is there's a picture ofall these different animals a
goat, a fish, a snake, a rabbit,an elephant and a zebra
standing in a line.
And then there's a person atthe front and said right,
everyone, now we're going totest you all on how successful
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you're going to be in life byyour ability to climb this tree.
And they're all looking at eachother like monkeys fucking over
the moon.
He goes oh, how good is this,I'm going to be able to climb
this tree.
The goldfish is like what thefuck?
How am I going to climb a tree?
I'm in water.
How am I going to climb a tree?
I'm in water.
And that's effectively theschooling system.
They're testing absolutelyevery single person and every
(39:41):
single one on how successfulthey're going to be at life by
their ability to memorize andpass a test.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
School's supposed to get you ready for life, but it
doesn't get you ready for life.
No, that's right.
I heard someone say the otherday you should be able to use
your phone during a test and youcould just look up the answers.
He's like, well, you can dothat in life.
Like isn't school supposed toget you ready for life?
Like, if you're going to havethis thing on you in life, why
can't you just use it for school?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Gary Vaynerchuk says that too.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, he's like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Why do I need to know the capital of fucking?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Africa?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Why do I need to know these things?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
or who the prime minister was who was it?
Do you remember?
It was on an ad.
It was on an ad, come on.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'll know it when you say it, but whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Me.
You're going to know A hundredpercent.
You know, of course.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm going to tell you all on the next episode.
But yeah, it's look, justaction.
Self-awareness that's whatthese people are lacking.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I think having the you know, you spoke about
intention before but having thething of like, okay, what am I
going to actually get out ofthis?
Like, what am I looking for?
What am I?
What's the one thing I'm goingto implement?
Yeah, and it's like okay, cool,I'm going to go to this thing.
I'm going to sit here for thisone day, three days, 47 days,
(41:11):
however long the event is.
But what is my ultimate goal toget from this?
And it's like I want one thingthat I can go and action.
Okay, cool, and take one.
If you go and you action onething and someone else goes and
doesn't action anything, you'reup.
You're up.
You know what I mean.
You're winning, you are up.
When was the last time yourevised your notes from the last
(41:36):
training you went to?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Never.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
You Revised Like has he gone through them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh, just recently when I went to the Alex or Mosey
thing.
Yeah, I actually genuinelyopened the book and was looking
at stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think most people don't.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, and that's cool .
Yeah, look.
But I also say it is, the notesaren't always there for you to
go through when you get home.
It is also about retaining theinformation during the training.
Yeah, but I specifically knewthere was things in there that I
wanted to take out, so I didlook at it when I got back.
That's what I mean.
So I actioned things when I gotback to the office.
(42:09):
It wasn't just put it in thebottom of the drawer, did that
course Cool.
Tick the box horse cool tickthe box.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, yeah, I saw alex homozy.
You haven't like big fuckingdeal.
What was the?
He doesn't remember my name?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
what was the you?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
know again george, george, um, what was the biggest
thing with which you wentthrough the book in here like,
what did you?
What was the one thing youimplemented?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
oh, I was looking at stuff that I could help other
people with for a particulartraining that I was doing um
that I implemented in my owntrainings as well because I
thought it was valuable.
So I looked at some of thatthing, some of that for that
particular reason why I wasreviewing it.
But the training itself, likeit was good.
I still feel that there's valuein what they do and what
they're about.
(42:51):
Might still look at it in thefuture.
As far as continuing on thetraining, but at this point in
time I didn't think it was thebest thing for me.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, I think you didn't think it was the best
thing for you.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, well, if I did, I would have done it right
there and then.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, so what did you think was missing?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
It was probably, it was just the commitment for
myself, I think, is the mainthing, financially and time-wise
as well.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, okay, what do you think people should do if
they are in that position?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
At an event or like at a training, yeah, or they're
just constantly.
Going to these things.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yeah, learning and not doing anything about it, or
they.
You know, I attend all theseminars, I read all the books.
I'm still in the same position.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, it's just a self-assessment then, isn't it?
Why?
What are you not doing?
What are you not doing in thatmoment, like you've been to
enough?
Now?
If you've been to that manythings, surely you've learned a
couple of things along the way.
Why haven't you implemented anyof those things?
Or have you and has it failed?
If it's failed, did you do itproperly, or was it the right
(44:04):
thing for your business?
Maybe these events you're goingto, maybe you're coming and
seeing me when you're a floristI don't know the first thing
about flowers.
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
What's your favorite flower?
I'm not colorblind.
What's?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
your favorite flower, dandelions.
Is that a real flower?
It is, of course it is.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (44:23):
really Everyone knows dandelions.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Fair enough.
Where was I going with that?
Yes, I had no idea I was goingto go somewhere.
Yes, I had no idea I was goingto go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
So what should they do?
Yeah, I mean.
The first thing is aself-assessment.
Why are you going to keepspending time and money the more
thing is the time just sittingthere in that room?
Are you getting genuineconnections out of the room?
Are you getting the knowledgethat you need out of that room?
Or maybe it's the wrong room?
Maybe you're going to the wrongrooms.
Maybe you need to start freshand go seek someone else.
(45:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, or maybe the problem isn't in the room, maybe
it's in your head.
That's right.
As a business owner, you arethe biggest cap to your
business's potential.
How well your business is doingis 95% a reflection on you.
I think there are some externalthings.
(45:21):
Yeah, like if you're in a badmarket economy you know, most
big businesses were built in badeconomies Markets you can
control this, but you choose themarket too.
Yeah, if you're stuck in thesame position and I'll share
this to close out this episode Ihad a call with someone and
(45:47):
they were telling me about how,uh, they they need to overcome
this next hurdle, but they don'tknow how.
And I was like, okay, well,what's the problem?
And they're like, oh, we don'thave leads.
And I was like, okay, cool, socan we take on more work?
And they're like, oh, no, wecan't, we're full.
I was like, oh, so the problemisn't you don't have leads, it's
(46:11):
that you're full.
And they're like, yeah, butwe're not making money.
And I was like so you're full,you're not making money and you
don't have leads.
And he's like, yeah, and I waslike dude, you're the problem.
This is all in your head.
You know what I mean.
How can all those things behappening?
You know what I mean.
It doesn't make any sense.
You think you need leads?
(46:39):
no money, but you can't take onany more work and I'm like and
so you go from marketing to abusiness coach.
Me, dude, I can't.
I go from marketing totherapist so much it's not even
funny.
I'm gonna raise my rates andstart saying, like this is a
therapy call.
Now what if those people arefilling?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
the wrong cup because you said they're in their head
right yeah our head is like madeout of like chemicals and shit,
dopamine, everything and thoseself-developing things give you
a boost of rush yeah, they'relike they're just filled with it
you saw it at our last event,like how pumped everyone was in
(47:12):
and then that's it.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
They're happy with that, so they're filling the
wrong cup to begin with yeah,but then they keep going around
in the same loops, over and overand over and over, you know.
But if they were content, ifthey were happy with everything,
and it was like I'm gettingeverything I need out of just
(47:36):
attending so the first cause isincorrect to begin with, isn't
it what?
Do you?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
mean the first cause.
So they're trying to fill thedeveloping cup, whereas it
should be the expanding cup, notthe developing one I think it's
more so the using what you knowmore than anything else.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
You know what I mean because, like, they've learned
stuff they haven't implementedand then they continue on in
that same round.
And if you go to these seminarsand you're there just to you
know, connect with people andnetwork cool, but that's a
result.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Hey, that's a result.
That's that's a result, that'san actionable item that they're
going there for.
Yeah, because I know people, Iwould say most people don't do
it.
I know people we both know thisperson that has gone to the same
training about 12 times andit's a four-day training and
he's been to it 12 times.
I said, dude, what are youdoing?
He goes.
Every time I go, he goes.
I know the thing off by heart,he goes.
(48:35):
But every time I go I get newclients, he goes, so I go there.
For that reason I said, okay,that's fair enough.
So he's not necessarily goingthere for the training
specifically, even though hegoes.
Yeah, look, I've been thereenough now I almost know it off
by heart.
But I do get.
I still write stuff down.
I'll still get a few thingshere and there, but it goes.
I go to the network, I get somenumbers.
(48:55):
We end up signing a few peopleup each time we go.
So I don't care, that's alrightthen.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Yeah, well, that person has a reason to go back,
I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, exactly, exactly Awesome.
Well, well, well, well,touching that event, space world
and some video game world,which will probably need some
help Tell me how to get myTwitch set up.
It's still on PlayStation,don't you?
Isn't it an app?
It's an account.
I'm sure you can figure it out.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Is it 100%?
I don't have a clue at all,you'll figure it out.
I just want people to tune in.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
What you play FIFA, yeah, you play fifa, yeah,
because you're a gun or call ofduty.
What's your?
Do you play lebanon when you?
Is that your team?
Of course, who else?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
would you play lebanon or australia?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
and you dominate the world.
Other countries like the teamsbetter psn network.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Oh sick, I haven't done that before lebanese,
although my son plays on myaccount.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Lebanese Warrior 77.
Please tell me, that's real nahplease tell me that's real nah
that would be.
That would be the greatestthing ever.
It's alright.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'm Greek, nah, I've got a weird PlayStation name.
It's like Moon Pie August.
Yeah, that was my line.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
That would also.
I bought my PlayStation secondhand.
Oh, did you?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
so you just kept their account.
I moved all the details over tomine and just kept rolling them
Still log into shout out toJordan.
Still log into the user and itsays Jordan, cool, I've had it
for like five years, dude, thatis funny.
Just never, ever, ever changedit Too good.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Too good.
Well, you've got other thingsthat you need to be doing
instead of wasting your timechanging usernames.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, like filling my cup.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
That's right.
Well, guys, fill your cup, takeaction, self-audit yourself and
see what's going on in yourlife.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Self-audit yourself.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Self-audit yourself.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Self-audit someone else.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
No, you can't do that you can't do, that, that's
impossible.
But thank you very much fortuning in again for Million
Dollar Days and we look forwardto seeing you next week and, as
always, I hope you're having amillion-dollar day.
Cannot wait for the nextepisode.
Bye, everybody, peace out.
I'm thinking about a career change.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you going to empire the UFC?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No, I'm going to become a full-time gamer.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, I would do that .
I'm telling you right now.
Listen, anyone who knows me, ifyou know me and you've known me
for quite some time you willknow that I cannot be beaten in
FIFA.
No shit, I never got into FIFA.
Yeah, it's a man's thing oh isit?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I thought that's what it was.
I think that's why I neverwanted to play it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, fifa is arguably one of the greatest
games.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What about COD?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, I was okay, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There was people who could, yeah, so you played the
sport where they fell over andwhen no one touched them.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
but then actually, killing each other Story of my
life.
Story of my life.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, I'd be curious.
I wonder what's one of thebiggest.
Actually, I know what thebiggest game in the world is
Fortnite.
No, I wonder what's one of thebiggest.
Actually, I know what thebiggest game in the world is
Fortnite.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
No, I would have said World of Warcraft.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh yeah, maybe I'm curious.
I'm going to Google that now.
I used to.
I think it's Roblox.
Oh yeah, you're probably right,Roblox.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Roblox.
What is the most played game,should I say in the world?
Yeah, Most played Popular.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I would love if anyone's listening to this and
you're a gamer in any way.
I would love to know how I canget into it professionally.
I would dedicate time to this.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I did not think it would be.
That Is it actually it noCounter-Strike.
What Nah, counter-strike 2.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There's no way, dude, it's the most played video game
globally, at least in terms ofPC.
Can you put 2025 in there?
Okay, this guy's using his 2014Apple iPhone and he's searching
PC.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, I just said video game.
Most played video game,counter-strike and Go what the
hell is Go.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Let me use a real Google Go is Counter-Strike.
Most Go is Can't Restraint mostplayed game, global offensive
Can't Restraint Minecraft, whichhas sold over 300 million
copies.
I said I've read what is themost played video game in the
world in 2025 followed by PUBGand Fortnite and Roblox.
There you go, anywho, back towhat I was saying.
(02:20):
If anyone's listening to thisand you're a professional gamer,
I would love to know how I canstart a Twitch stream, a YouTube
channel, whatever it is, andjust destroy everyone in FIFA,
because that's my jam.
I'll add, though caveat, likeI'm rusty.
I don't spend a lot of timedoing it right now, but give me
(02:42):
two weeks and I will be my prime.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I haven't picked up a PlayStation remote to play
video game for at least a year,I reckon.
I just find at the moment, asmuch as I enjoy it, like it's
something I wouldn't mind doing.
I just feel at the moment it'ssuch a distraction and I feel
like it's a waste of time.
What are your hobbies?
I just feel at the moment it'ssuch a distraction and I feel
like it's a waste of time.
What are your hobbies?
My hobbies I like water sports,so jet skiing I'd say that's a
(03:09):
hobby.
I enjoy going to the football.
What do you do on the jet ski?
Just cruise, just to go aroundin a few circles.
It's not you know what.
I've been doing it for so longthat I don't get the kick I used
to when I was 23 years old.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, but like don't you get, so you just yeah,
cruise around for a bit and thendo a couple donuts and then
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Then go back to shore , sit on the beach, then Nicole
will take it out with the key,I'll take my son out, might take
some friends out, that's aboutit.
It's better when you got peopleto go around with, for sure,
for sure, yeah, like my.
My brother-in-law's got one now.
So we go cruising, sometimeslike to go down.
For me, an ideal day out on theski would be going from here to
st, from st kilda down todramana, like just go do a whole
(03:56):
day trip all the way down there, all the way back one time I
would enjoy that yes, one tank.
Yeah, yeah, you'll get there oneone tank.
What else?
What else do I do?
I like going to the footballand watching the football, so I
would say that's a hobby of mine.
Other than that, not too muchmore.
I don't mind reading every nowand then.
(04:17):
It's not a hobby, isn't it?
I don't know, do you sit therelike hobby time?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, let's go, let's read a book.
That's not fair.
For some people it is.
For me it's not definitely, butI do think it's an important
thing that you should consumeinformation in some way.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, other than that , man.
I mean, is work a hobby?
Can you consider that a hobbyBusiness?
No, what is it?
Is hobby just by definition,something like you do for
leisure and fun?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
If I had to define hobby, I would say something
that feeds your soul.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, but then business could be that for some
people.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
No, I don't know anyone who does business and
feeds their soul.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You reckon, alex Hormozy doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He says it.
Whether it's true or not, he'sa unique individual.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, true, I agree with that.
Yeah, I mean, other than that Iprobably don't have too much
more.
Do you know what I've alwayswanted to do?
Because I keep watching hisvideos.
Matt Armstrong Shout out toMatt Armstrong in the UK I want
to build a car.
I want to buy a car and justrebuild it and just do sick shit
.
Why?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
don't you do it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I just don't have space I could put it in my
warehouse.
Ware warehouse is fucking agesaway from my house, so it's like
I know if I had the car, itwould just sit there gather dust
.
I wouldn't work on it.
I'd really want it to be in mygarage, and my garage currently
don't think it's big enough.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It has a jet I can move that that's not the issue.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just don't.
I think you almost need to doit competently.
You kind of need like a doublegarage at least, because you're
going to need space to movearound in, and mine's more of a
single garage.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Definition of a hobby A small horse or a pony.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Okay, you're using the wrong type of Google.
That's Mongolian.
That's Mongolian.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Google For sure.
Actual definition An activitydone regularly in one's leisure
time for pleasure.
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Something fun I mean video games could fall into that
category.
I enjoy you go.
Something fun, I mean videogames could fall into that
category.
I enjoy doing that.
So yes, yep, yeah, I would dothat, other than that, not too
much more.
So what do you mean?
Is gym a hobby?
Could be, I suppose.
Do I go there to have fun?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
no, not always yeah it's like one of those like it's
like a good hobby, like a goodhabit to have.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, but like but as I said, like I, I genuinely
could see myself spending awhole day playing video games,
from morning till night, justsitting on the couch.
Grab a pizza, grab some drinksdon't talk to me plug into the
Matrix and just play all day.
At the end of that day, I wouldfeel like a horrible human
being in my current life likewhat I'm doing right now.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's very interesting .
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I just feel right a horrible human being in
my current life, like what I'mdoing right now.
It's very interesting.
Yeah.
I just feel right now, whereI'm at in my life, like we're
talking about wanting all thesethings in abundance.
I feel that that is sodetrimental to getting all those
things that I want.
You could say, arguably well,it fills your cup.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah.
Do you think you would be abetter human after that day?
No, no, you don't think youwould be a better human after
that day.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, no, you don't think you'd be a better human?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't think look me you don't think you would be
yeah, this is sideways.
So you don't think you would bebetter off having done that
thing that doesn't benefit yourprimary goal, but benefits the
person that's driving theprimary goal?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I honestly don't think so.
I don't think it filled me upthat much.
I don't know.
It's a tough one.
Yeah, do you get what I'msaying though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, because you look at it and you're like, hey,
this like if my ultimate goalis around business, and then
it's like, okay, but who'sdriving that?
I am, but if I do somethinglike for me, it's like I go
camping.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'll go into the bush for a couple of days, and I
enjoy that too.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Every now and again I enjoy doing the outdoor stuff I
do, mate.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm an OG.
I've known you for two years.
I've never been way over twoyears.
I've, I will, fucking, I will.
You would flip the day we gocamping.
You will flip out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You'd be like take Iggy before you leave, 100%.
You'd be like where did thisguy come from?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
that's a yes.
I'll believe him when I see itstart a fire with sticks and
everything.
Don't you?
That's how long you've beencamping?
Don't you think feeding thatperson from a different avenue?
Yeah, I do, I'll give youanother example Having kids does
(08:31):
not in any way benefit yourbusiness.
Yes, right, there's no upsideto benefiting your business, but
I know a lot of people who havekids and then get serious about
their part of life because it'sfeeding the person who is
driving that thing, yep, so youobviously don't believe that
spending and not spending awhole day maybe spending an hour
(08:52):
on a Sunday night once the kidshave gone to bed, and you've
had your day night for that week.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a good one.
Maybe I'm just looking at it inthe wrong way, possibly I think
it might be the case, because Ijust I'll just look at it it
might be a complete distractionyeah, I know, and that's what I
would hate because I would getinto that.
I used to play.
I always liked playing.
What's it called?
What's the type of format whereyou're playing a character?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
you play a character and you go do yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But what's it actually called?
When you're playing a characterand you're going and doing
missions and doing shit likethat, what's the what's the
what's?
It's more of a role play game.
What's the game?
Oh, I got assassin's creed.
So I love games like that,where I'm the character, I go do
missions, I go do a whole bunchof things.
I got the person, you levelthem up, you do a whole bunch of
stuff like that.
So traditionally, assassinscreed's been like the one game
(09:45):
I've been playing for years,because you, you go one game,
the last couple of iterations ofit anyway, they just go for
fucking 100 hours.
But you get 100 hours in gaytime, just actually oh really,
yeah, it's a long I think so,yeah, like it's.
It's one of those world typegames where you can do as much
(10:05):
as it as you want yeah, yeahyeah, and I do because I tend to
also like the story that comeswith it and I like the
entertainment.
Yeah, I mean, I do, thoughthat's what I'm saying, so I'll
play that game.
And then it's like well, I'mnot just going to play it for an
hour on sunday, I'm going toplay it sunday, yeah, monday
night and then tuesday night and, and then.
Monday night, and then Tuesdaynight, and then Thursday night,
and then the kids will go to bedand then I'll play it again
(10:26):
that night and then I think, asthat progresses, it's like fuck,
look at all this time I'vewasted playing this video game
where I could have been doingthis, I could have been reading,
I could have whatever it mightbe.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yes, I think you can waste time.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And I feel I would fall into that trap, which is
why I tend to be in extremeswhen I play it.
I'll go and not play videogames for a year, but then I'll
turn it back and go all right,I'm going to play it solidly for
the next month.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, but you must genuinely have the belief that
you're not a better human forhaving played it Perhaps,
perhaps, do you know when Irealized.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, maybe it's a bit of escapism, do you?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
know when I was playing video games a lot during
.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
COVID, I lived on Call of.
Duty.
Yeah, but I was playing it.
I think, looking back and evenduring the moment I was playing
it, to just unplug from all thestresses in my life.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think that might have.
That could be a good thing, butmaybe that's why I have a bit
of bad association with it atthe moment.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
There's lots of things that are escapism, but
there's nothing wrong withwatching movies.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Movies are escapism, and I do that all the time yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Watching a TV show is escapism.
Watching Netflix is escapism,without a doubt it is.
You're escaping from thecurrent reality and distracting
your brain with something else,but I just think it's.
We demonize the video game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
A holiday is escapism .
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It is.
You're separating yourself fromwhat is current reality and
saying I'm going to change myenvironment now and go over
there.
But, I don't think there'sanything wrong with it.
In my opinion, it's only whenyou're overdoing it, yes, and
you're not facing something.
That's when it becomes aproblem.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, but look, if it's stopping you from taking
action and getting things done,then it's probably not the right
thing.
But I think sometimes you needto do some things that are going
to help you take those actionsas well, and if that means
playing a game or reading a bookor going on the jet ski, you've
(12:26):
got to do that shit.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, gotta do that shit.
Yeah, I think that's reallyimportant.
I think you do.
Yeah, but the longest time.
I also felt that I didn't needto do that either as in any of
that stuff, just wanted to workon the business yeah, but that's
okay too, yeahI agree, yeah, okay, because I
did feel like that for a periodof time and even my wife would
tell me off.
My dad would always tell me off.
It's like what did you do theother day?
(12:47):
Oh, literally the day we gotback from Vegas, I was in the
office, came here in the officeand I was working and my dad
calls me and says hey, what areyou doing?
He goes how was your trip Good?
He goes go home, relax.
I'm like, hey, you relax, I'vegot shit to do.
(13:07):
But for me it wasn't a chorebeing here.
I wasn't.
Oh, I've got to go to thefucking office.
What else am I going to do?
I was going to sit at home andwatch TV.
Why not be here and beproductive and do work For me?
I never really felt that I getvery motivated being at work
Sunday nights.
I'm ready, like I'm ready, togo Monday.
Let's fucking go, I've got shitto do.
(13:32):
That helps me as far as beinghere, because I don't.
I felt that if I didn't, if I,if this was a drainer to me
being at work.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I think of the type of personality that I would stop
doing it.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I guess you're looking at the games as escapism
.
Then I think 100% I am yeah,and that's probably why I don't
pick it up to start playing.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, I mean this is a cool topic because you know a
lot of people would beoverworked.
I find that a lot of peoplespecifically in construction as
well, and even more so if you'rea trade.
You tend to be workingthroughout the day and then you
come home and you jump on thecomputer and do quotes, so your
day doesn't finish when you gethome.
Even though you might be 7 to3.30, you knock off at 3.30,
(14:18):
then you come home and you got15 emails from 15, 100 emails
from different builders pricethis job, do this job.
So then you got to sit thereand price up a project whilst
your family's inside eatingdinner or whilst your kids are
in bed.
Whilst your family's in bedyou're pricing work and then
you're doing invoicing, thenyou're reconciling accounts,
then you're ordering materialfor the next day.
(14:39):
So a lot of the time, I reckonbusiness owners may not feel the
opportunity for them to be ableto switch off and fill their
cup up with things that theyenjoy doing.
Do you think a lot of businessowners would fall into that trap
?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
No no.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I don't have sympathy for that, or empathy, or
whatever, it's not the sympathy,but it's more them not filling
up their cup.
Do you feel that people would?
Just from what I gather andfrom what I've seen with a lot
of people that own their ownbusiness is that they're always
on, they tend not to switch offand they tend to bring a lot of
(15:21):
that stuff home with them andthen they let go of the holidays
, they let go of going out, theylet go of the things that fill
their cup up.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, but so like my thing with anything around, that
is always like I refuse to be,to believe that I'm a victim for
anything in my life.
Oh, without a doubt, likeanything, and if I'm not going
to, if you're doing the samething as me, I'm not going to
feel sorry for you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm not.
I'm just not.
Oh man, I've heard this greatthing on Diary of a CEO the
other day, okay it was.
He was talking to some lady andshe was saying how, if you go
through adversity or throughdifficult aspects in your life,
you know something reallydifficult, really hard, that you
have worked extremely hard toget through.
(16:05):
You went through all theturmoil, the blood, sweat and
tears and you get through it.
You actually have less empathyfor people going through that
same process because you're like, hey, toughen up, I've done it,
fucking, go.
Yeah.
And that's how I feel.
Yeah, me too.
And once they said that I waslike, wow, I feel the same when
something comes up now, it'slike I'm almost annoyed, whereas
(16:26):
you should be like, oh, I feelfor you, brother, I've been
through that.
That was hard.
But now I'm like, hey, shut thefuck up, hurry up and get it
done.
This is part of the game.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You don't like it, stop playing.
Also, you chose to open abusiness.
You can go get a job, dude,this is a very comfortable
country we live in.
Yeah, you know what I mean youcan go and get a 9 to 5 anywhere
and clock off at 5.30 and behome by 6 and do all of that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And if it makes you happy, like we said before, yeah
, and that's great.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Do that you win?
Yeah, but do I feel sorry forpeople who are driving to get
more?
No, if anything, I'm excitedfor you.
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
yeah, exactly yeah, you're doingquotes on our sick, though wait
till you can finally putsomeone on to do those quotes
for you, and then eventually youknow what I mean.
And it's like this is a game.
I see business as a game.
(17:19):
Yeah, it is, do you know?
And that's what.
Like I don't, I have zero.
I hadn't heard what you said.
That I find it very interesting, but I have zero.
I don't feel bad yeah at all.
I don't feel bad.
And I don't feel bad whenpeople try and say things to me
like oh, you know, oh, butbecause you're a man, this, oh,
(17:40):
because of your background, this, oh, but because you grew up
here, this, and I said, no, good, I'm going up against, like I
went to, like a real goodexample.
I went to a public school.
I went to a shit school.
Dude, I didn't even finish highschool, didn't you?
No, did I know that?
Maybe I don't know, but when Igo up against people and they're
like private school, blah, blah, blah, I fucking love it, cause
(18:02):
I sit there like let me showyou, like that doesn't make a
difference, I'm going to knockyou out the park here.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You know what I?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
mean it kind of fucking drives me.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's what my son said,this the other day, when we're
talking about him.
Uh, when we passed thisLamborghini, I said to him he
cause he was watching it onYouTube and he goes, he was
watching something.
He said most millionaires neverfinished high school.
Most people that are ultimatelyreally hugely successful have
never even finished high school.
I said you know why that is?
It's because they tend to thinkdifferently to everyone else.
(18:32):
Everyone else has been taughtto do something in a certain way
and they've gone.
Well, how about I do it thisway?
It's indoctrination.
Yeah, school, without a doubtit is.
Yeah, without a doubt it isnothing.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
It's a bad thing, but like look, it's necessary for
the economy.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I suppose Not every single person can be a business
owner.
You know people need that needsa workforce.
People need to do the do, soyou're going to need people to
do that and that's what,effectively, the school system
does is breed the workforce forthe country.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And those that go out and start their own business or
do something differently tendto reap the rewards, but it does
come with a lot of um, a lot ofchallenges along the way, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, and I have zero empathy, sympathy I don't know
what the word is.
I don't know what thedifference between those two
words is.
One is like I feel for you, theother one's like.
Difference between those twowords is one is like I feel for
you, the other one's like Iunderstand or something, but
tomato zero, zero zilch zero,and if you feel sorry for
yourself, then I feel sorry foryou play some video games play
(19:36):
some video games, do somesomething like, take some action
.
You know I mean talking about,um, filling up your cup, over,
overworking, quoting and thatthe opposite end of that is like
the person who does nothing Doyou know what I mean?
Or does the stuff that makesthem feel like they're doing
(19:58):
stuff but does nothing?
And we all know people likethis.
We all know people who areclaiming that they're doing a
whole bunch of stuff by doingthe stuff that doesn't actually
move the needle.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You know I read 52 books this year and it's like
great.
What have you done?
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I've been to this seminar.
I bought this training.
I did this, yeah.
Or I've applied for 20 jobsthis week and you don't.
You're not working, no.
What the fuck else are youdoing?
How long will it take you?
An hour, yeah.
What are you doing the rest ofyour time?
Why don't you apply for 20 jobsan hour?
Do you know what I mean?
And it's like which end of thespectrum would you rather be at?
(20:40):
Would you rather be the personwho's constantly working and
getting shit done and moving theneedle in the direction that
they want in their life?
Would you rather be the?
We all know like?
There's a term for it in thepersonal development world.
Everyone knows someone who's a.
You've all seen the person thatyou've seen at a training and
(21:04):
then gone to a differenttraining and seen the same
person.
And they're in the sameposition, doing the exact same
shit.
And the term for this you mayhave heard it or not, but it's a
self-development junkie.
And they're the person who goesand listens to all the
trainings and takes all thenotes and write everything down
and be like, yeah, it's reallygood.
And then does nothing with itbecause the feeling of feeling
(21:28):
like they're doing something hassatiated them enough, as
opposed to actually doing the do.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, yeah, and we've been to plenty of those courses
over the years and seen thosepeople.
You know they go there, theykeep doing those things, being
in the event space now andrunning events.
You see the same facessometimes and the same names pop
up Like oh yeah, you came tothis last year, you came to this
a couple of years ago, you cameto this last month and you're
(21:54):
back again.
Great Good that you're takingaction.
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextone?
Why aren't you taking the nextstep?
Why aren't you taking the nextone?
And yeah, I feel that they feelmotivated in the moment and
they may do stuff in the daysfollowing, but then it drops off
.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Why do you reckon it does?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, we spoke about motivation.
I think it's a lack ofdiscipline as well.
They don't hold themselvesaccountable to go.
Okay, I've spent $2,000 on thiscourse, Now I need to go and
take it to the next level and dowhat I've learned.
So they'll do it once, twice,maybe not get the result they
thought, and go.
Well, this doesn't work.
I'm just too busy.
I'm going to keep processinginvoices.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Have you ever lacked discipline in a particular area?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, without a doubt .
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Over another one.
What?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
do you?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
mean so like?
Have you ever, you know, beendisciplined with work?
Yeah, but haven't been going tothe gym.
Oh without a doubt, or beendisciplined with the gym, not
gone to work but not feedingyour relationships.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, without a doubt .
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So what is it?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I think it's for me, the way I see it, it's a matter
of priority.
I think it's a, for me, the wayI see it, it's a matter of
priority.
I think it's a matter ofpriority as far as what's
important to you at that momentin time.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But they're obviously doing the thing because they
feel like they're doingsomething.
Yeah, they're going to theevent, they're showing up.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
They feel like they're Well, maybe it's
self-awareness then, isn't it?
Maybe they feel like they'reimproving each time they come to
these events.
That's why they love goingthere, because they do.
They get that hit and go.
Well, cool, that was great.
I learned something I didn'tknow the other day, and maybe
they do implement a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
People get addicted to that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
They get addicted to thatfeeling of going on.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I feel like I'm doing .
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Also, the FOMO aspect of it, too, would kick in.
They don't want to miss out.
It was so good last time.
I don't want to miss out andnot learn something or connect
with this person Again.
I've got to go to this thing.
So an example that I can thinkof just straight off the bat is
(23:58):
we've gone both of you and Ihave done a full training, spent
tens of thousands of dollars onhow to speak on stage.
Now let's just say in our classof people say the people that
we went from stage one to stagethree all the way through there
was probably 50, 60 people thatwent through that whole series
of training.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Thereabouts.
How many speakers have come out?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
of that, I couldn't.
I could count them on one hand,on one hand.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, that's right.
So you're talking, say, lessthan 5%, less than 5% of people
who have paid the same money asus to learn those skills have
actually used those skills intheir day-to-day life or their
business.
Now they might go oh, no, no,I'm a professional speaker now
because I've got the training.
But why do it?
What was the point?
(24:44):
If being on stage and speakingin front of tens of thousands of
people, or 100 people or 50people, if that was never going
to be part of what yourdevelopment needed to be in your
life or business, why go andspend that money?
And I think there was anelement again of that oh, I
don't want to miss out.
Oh, I've done the first levelof that.
Oh, I don't want to miss out,I've done the first level.
(25:05):
I may as well finish the secondand third level.
So I can say I'm a certifiedNLP coach.
Or I can say I'm a You'recertified, I'm certified.
I've got a tattoo on my back aswell.
But that's just one course I'mthinking of.
But I've been to other oneswhere it's the exact same thing
too.
People didn't action post thattraining.
(25:27):
Recently this year, we went toLas Vegas and went to a few
seminars there as well.
I looked at that.
I was like, well, have Iactioned anything out of those
trainings?
The answer is yes, minor, major.
If I didn't think it wasbeneficial, why would I action
it?
Why would I go there and go oh,I better go and review that and
learn that and implement that.
If I didn't think it wasbeneficial, why would I action
it?
Like, why would I go there andgo oh, better go and review that
and learn that and implementthat if I'm doing something
better.
(25:49):
But I always go there with theintent of it of me leaving there
and to implement something andlook, you might go to one of
these things and not learnanything and go.
Look, that wasn't necessarilyfor me.
I don't think I'm going tobenefit from that.
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But you always learn something.
Yeah, like even if it's whatnot to do Exactly.
Exactly right, you're just likeokay, cool, I'm not doing that
Exactly right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, Good to know that otherpeople are going to be doing
that, so I can combat that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I mean With whatever it is that you're offering.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, absolutely so my advice to anyone.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I think they get in their own way more than anything
.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, but people who get in their own way don't know,
they're getting in their ownway.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, or self-awareness, but you can't
teach that.
How do you teach it?
I try and call people up on itsometimes when I go to events.
No, but at events, because I'mlimited with my time.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
When people say, oh, I really want to join your
program, well, fucking join it.
No, you can.
You can join it.
You go, put pen to paper, youtap the fucking card and then
you go and join it.
Oh yeah, but at the moment,okay, man, like you are getting
in your own way, you are gettingin your own way, you are making
this not happen right now.
It's not me, it's you, becauseif I had the cure for cancer and
(27:06):
you had cancer and all you hadto do was go and tap that card,
you would fucking tap it,wouldn't you?
Yes, because you know what I'mgoing to give you is going to
help you and solve your problems.
So what is the disconnect?
Why aren't you tapping?
Why are you getting in your ownway?
What constraint are you puttingthere?
(27:31):
Sometimes you have to be thatblunt with people, but again,
sometimes even that extremeexample doesn't always work
either, I think there's probablyan element of fear around it
too.
Fear of what?
Fear of failure, fear of lossIf they invest the money and it
doesn't work out.
Fear of their own inadequaciesin their abilities.
Maybe that's why they don'ttake the action.
What's your biggest fear?
I don't, I mean personally inbusiness.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Just in general, I guess in business, I mean, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, professionally, I don't really know, I don't
really focus on it, should I I?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
don't know if you should focus on it, but you
should.
Know what it is.
If it's existent, you should beaware of it, like I could say
mine would be.
Like my thing and I think thishelps me push forward is I don't
want to look back and say, fuckman, I should have you know
what.
I mean it's like the fear ofregret.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
See, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's like if you died tomorrow touch wood, if you
died tomorrow, would you be likeor you knew you were dying
tomorrow and would you go shit.
I didn't do that.
One thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, no, not that, not like that.
More like, uh, like if I, if Iwas laying on my deathbed to
look back and be like gave it ashake yeah, you know what I mean
.
Like fucking gave it a good spin.
Yeah, as opposed to like fuckme through the motion.
I'm so worried about what thosepeople are thinking about me,
and it's like who gives a fuck,do you know?
(29:01):
I mean, there's people thathave walked this earth that are
gone now that no one will everspeak about again, and there's a
good fucking chance that we'reall going to be just like that.
Do you know what I mean?
And believe what you want aboutafterlife, et cetera religious,
not religious.
The fact of the matter is thatyou're here now and One day you
(29:21):
won't be, One day you won't be.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
This and you're here now.
One day you won't be.
One day you won't be.
This podcast will be forever,though, and the only way that
people could forever listen tothis podcast is if they
subscribe and their children'schildren's children then also
subscribe.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Let me see all my great granddad was subscribed to
.
That's right, million DollarsDays.
Is that all, george and Robbie?
Is that all it was?
Well, yeah, that's all milkthat's how we buy milk now, what
are they talking about?
Is that all they made?
Wow, these guys were trying toget milk every day.
Uh, good, um, and that's sofunny.
(29:55):
Geez, shouldn't aimed bigger,you're gonna have to change the
neon sign yeah, uh, but yeah,that's that's like, and I think
that pushes me forward, becausethen it's like well, if not now,
when?
Like, what are you going tolike you?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
know what I mean.
I wouldn't say that's a fear,but it is a motivating factor.
It's a fear, no for me, I'msaying, not for you.
Oh yeah, as in, as in, thatbeing a fear of mine, to give it
a nudge and to do everything Ineed to do Because I feel that
I'm on that path.
I feel that I am kind of there.
But I always feel that there ismore too.
(30:29):
This comes back to the wholevideo game things.
I always feel that level ofguilt Fuck, I should be doing
this, I should be doing this, Ishould be doing this instead.
So I do ask myself the questionas well Should I be doing more?
Should I be going and investingin the stock market?
My old man's on to me about itheaps over the last six months.
Open up your account, get itready, get it ready, you've got
(30:50):
to buy, you've got to buy,you've got to buy.
I'm like, fuck, okay, I will,but I'm doing so much.
Is that a distraction?
Or should I fucking do it andhave that going and have this
going and have this going andhave that going and have this
going and have this going?
So I do feel that I'm shakingthings up, but I always feel
like I can do more too.
(31:12):
But I just like to challengemyself a little bit too, and I
mean that's probably a deciding,one of the main reasons why,
whenever I go to these events, Imake it a priority of mine to
actually action shit out of thatevent, not just take it in,
never look at it again, move on,and maybe that's what people
(31:32):
lack.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Which part.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
They lack that-.
Taking the action, yeah to takethe action, but also again
we're saying this self-awareness.
Maybe they need to tap into whythey're going there in the
first place.
Why are you actually goingthere?
Something we did that waspowerful the other day was
getting people to write downtheir intent at the start of the
day.
I felt that that had a hugeimpact on the room, like why are
(31:58):
you actually here?
Forget the fact that you're hereto try and like what do you
want, selfishly, out of thisroom today?
What do you want out of it?
And I think that's good toactually go.
You know what?
Fuck?
Tell me.
Do you want to learn how tomake a million bucks today?
Is that what it is in this room?
Write that down.
Do you want to learn how toscale your business to $50
(32:23):
million?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, isn't it also a form of procrastination?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, which, what is?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The not taking action like the saying I've got to do
like, wait till I'm going to goback to built mastery.
You know what I mean, cause Iknow that when I go back now,
now I'm in a different positionand I'll go back now and then.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'll get what I need from it.
Yep, I guarantee you.
There's so many people.
When I did my last event, theyall said, man, we're in, we are
doing this Like, we are socommitted to this thing.
I want to do it.
I guarantee you, 90% of thosepeople will never join the
program.
Guarantee it, because they'rejust not going to come back, or
they'll look.
They may call me in a few yearstime when it hurts more, and
(33:04):
then they'll say, oh, you know,I should have joined up two
years ago.
Oh well, you should have.
Yeah, you would have had theresults by now.
But most of the people, as yousaid, I think they feel good in
the moment and then they leaveand then it's like all their
limiting beliefs come back.
Maybe they go home and speak totheir partner.
Maybe they go home and they'llspeak to their wife or their
(33:27):
husband and go hey, I've beenthinking about joining this
program.
It's $40,000.
It's $50,000.
What?
Do you know?
How much the mortgage is thisweek Really, how are you going
to pay for the school fees?
How are you going to do this?
You're going to go spend thatmuch money on this.
And then they talk yeah, you'reright, sorry, yeah, it's not
the right thing for us right now.
(33:48):
And then they again, thatlimiting belief talks them out
of it.
And then they just go to thenext training because, oh, maybe
I'll just learn that one thinghere and I don't have to spend
that much money, or I don't haveto spend that much time.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I think there's many factors.
There's a lot of differentreasons why people don't, but
there comes a point I thinkpeople need to connect the dots.
I think people need to.
I used to always say this Iused to smoke, a long time ago,
ciggies and I used to.
I quit like that from out ofnowhere and I used to always
(34:29):
tell people like if you, if youstill smoke, if anyone can
listen to this, if you stillsmoke, if you're, if you still
smoke, if anyone can listen tothis, if you still smoke, you
haven't made the connectionbetween you punching those dots
and you and your deathbed fromcause.
Cause it's killing you.
That's just a reality.
(34:50):
And I think people need toconnect the dots like that, like
in the sense of, if I don'ttake this leap, no matter how
scary, whatever it is, that nextstep of action is calling that
person, doing that thing, buyingthat program, whatever it is,
you know, getting that coach orwhatever it is for you.
In your next step, you need tomake the connection between that
(35:11):
and what it's going to cost youwhen you can't do it anymore.
You know what I mean.
Most people, if you make theconnection, especially if
someone's got kids, if you makethe connection between you
smoking ciggies and then you'renot going to see your kids grow
up because you get the calltomorrow and they say, oh, we
just picked up on this thing.
I guarantee you, if people canhave a dream about that, wake up
(35:36):
and they'll stop.
But they don't connect the dotsbecause it's too painful.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And they ignore it.
Yeah, you know what I mean andI think if you're a person who
goes to all these programs or,you know, reads a hundred books
a year, whatever it might be, aperson who reads one book a year
(36:03):
and takes the action from itmoves further than the person
who reads 100 and does nothing.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Knowledge is potential power.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's right, and it's like saying I think I've
got someone in the family,whatever it is a cousin or some
shit.
I think I've got someone in thefamily, whatever it is a cousin
or some shit.
They've gone to do, they'vegone to university and they've
got their degree and then theygot a master's degree and then
they got a doctorate degree ortheir doctorate in that field
(36:28):
let's just say it's accountingor some shit.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
A doctorate in accounting.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You get a doctorate, I think, in almost anything.
You get a doctorate inconstruction.
You know a doctorate, I think,in almost anything.
You get a doctorate inconstruction.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You know, now, when I fill out a form and it's like
what's your thing, I tick doctor, Do you?
Yeah, why not?
What are they going to do?
They say doctor to care.
I say yes.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
What do you want?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Do you know?
When you jump on a plane, theyactually ask you more all of a
sudden You're picking its facemassively.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Huge Might get upgraded in life.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Excuse me, so you're a doctor.
Can you come?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
this way, nice.
What are we talking about now?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You were talking about your family friend.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yes, that's right.
So it's like they get thatdoctorate and then they end up
working at wherever Coles, Idon't know.
But my point is it's like oh,you're so smart.
They feel that sense ofaccomplishment and also
Acknowledgement.
Yeah, and acknowledgement Likeoh, I've got my doctorate in
(37:31):
accounting, I'm smart.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I went to RMIT.
I've done this, yeah, I've donethis?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Oh, I went to.
I've done this.
Yeah, I've done this.
Oh, I went to melbourneuniversity.
I've done 13, 15 years ofschool, of tertiary education.
I've written a thesis onaccounting and it's like you've
done nothing.
You live at home with yourfucking parents.
There's a great thing.
I mean like you've done nothingwith your fucking life.
Do you still follow bradley?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
yes, it's a great thing, brad, and he's like I
dropped out of high school, blah, blah, blah.
He's like.
Now he goes.
I've got two MBAs, four mastersand they all work for me.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So good, though so good.
Yeah, one of my old businesspartners used to say I'm a
C-grade student that employsA-grade people.
To say I'm a C-grade studentthat employs A-grade people, he
goes.
I never got anything over a Cat school when I was there and
he dropped out in year 10.
He goes, I'm a C-grade studentand I just got A-grades working
for me.
But yeah, that's just anexample of that type of person
(38:27):
that maybe these people go intothese trainings and events.
They just feel smarter and likethey're doing stuff just
because they've done thattraining course and they tick it
off.
Well, yeah, I'm a nlp coach,I'm a professional speaker, I've
been to this training, I'vedone tony robbins course, I've
done grand cardone's trainings.
Like I'm a professionalsalesperson now.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Like because that's what we're taught to do in
school, correct?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
yeah, that's right, as long as you get the
certificates and you do thisthing, then you're accomplished.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You are the best.
Yeah, there's this.
One image that I've seen, andprobably most of you have seen
it too is there's a picture ofall these different animals a
goat, a fish, a snake, a rabbit,an elephant and a zebra
standing in a line.
And then there's a person atthe front and said right,
everyone, now we're going totest you all on how successful
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you're going to be in life byyour ability to climb this tree.
And they're all looking at eachother like monkeys fucking over
the moon.
He goes oh, how good is this,I'm going to be able to climb
this tree.
The goldfish is like what thefuck?
How am I going to climb a tree?
I'm in water.
How am I going to climb a tree?
I'm in water.
And that's effectively theschooling system.
They're testing absolutelyevery single person and every
(39:41):
single one on how successfulthey're going to be at life by
their ability to memorize andpass a test.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
School's supposed to get you ready for life, but it
doesn't get you ready for life.
No, that's right.
I heard someone say the otherday you should be able to use
your phone during a test and youcould just look up the answers.
He's like, well, you can dothat in life.
Like isn't school supposed toget you ready for life?
Like, if you're going to havethis thing on you in life, why
can't you just use it for school?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Gary Vaynerchuk says that too.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, he's like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Why do I need to know the capital of fucking?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Africa?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Why do I need to know these things?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
or who the prime minister was who was it?
Do you remember?
It was on an ad.
It was on an ad, come on.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I'll know it when you say it, but whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Me.
You're going to know A hundredpercent.
You know, of course.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm going to tell you all on the next episode.
But yeah, it's look, justaction.
Self-awareness that's whatthese people are lacking.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I think having the you know, you spoke about
intention before but having thething of like, okay, what am I
going to actually get out ofthis?
Like, what am I looking for?
What am I?
What's the one thing I'm goingto implement?
Yeah, and it's like okay, cool,I'm going to go to this thing.
I'm going to sit here for thisone day, three days, 47 days,
(41:11):
however long the event is.
But what is my ultimate goal toget from this?
And it's like I want one thingthat I can go and action.
Okay, cool, and take one.
If you go and you action onething and someone else goes and
doesn't action anything, you'reup.
You're up.
You know what I mean.
You're winning, you are up.
When was the last time yourevised your notes from the last
(41:36):
training you went to?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Never.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
You Revised Like has he gone through them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh, just recently when I went to the Alex or Mosey
thing.
Yeah, I actually genuinelyopened the book and was looking
at stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think most people don't.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, and that's cool .
Yeah, look.
But I also say it is, the notesaren't always there for you to
go through when you get home.
It is also about retaining theinformation during the training.
Yeah, but I specifically knewthere was things in there that I
wanted to take out, so I didlook at it when I got back.
That's what I mean.
So I actioned things when I gotback to the office.
(42:09):
It wasn't just put it in thebottom of the drawer, did that
course Cool.
Tick the box horse cool tickthe box.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, yeah, I saw alex homozy.
You haven't like big fuckingdeal.
What was the?
He doesn't remember my name?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
what was the you?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
know again george, george, um, what was the biggest
thing with which you wentthrough the book in here like,
what did you?
What was the one thing youimplemented?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
oh, I was looking at stuff that I could help other
people with for a particulartraining that I was doing um
that I implemented in my owntrainings as well because I
thought it was valuable.
So I looked at some of thatthing, some of that for that
particular reason why I wasreviewing it.
But the training itself, likeit was good.
I still feel that there's valuein what they do and what
they're about.
(42:51):
Might still look at it in thefuture.
As far as continuing on thetraining, but at this point in
time I didn't think it was thebest thing for me.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, I think you didn't think it was the best
thing for you.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, well, if I did, I would have done it right
there and then.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, so what did you think was missing?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
It was probably, it was just the commitment for
myself, I think, is the mainthing, financially and time-wise
as well.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, okay, what do you think people should do if
they are in that position?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
At an event or like at a training, yeah, or they're
just constantly.
Going to these things.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yeah, learning and not doing anything about it, or
they.
You know, I attend all theseminars, I read all the books.
I'm still in the same position.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, it's just a self-assessment then, isn't it?
Why?
What are you not doing?
What are you not doing in thatmoment, like you've been to
enough?
Now?
If you've been to that manythings, surely you've learned a
couple of things along the way.
Why haven't you implemented anyof those things?
Or have you and has it failed?
If it's failed, did you do itproperly, or was it the right
(44:04):
thing for your business?
Maybe these events you're goingto, maybe you're coming and
seeing me when you're a floristI don't know the first thing
about flowers.
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
What's your favorite flower?
I'm not colorblind.
What's?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
your favorite flower, dandelions.
Is that a real flower?
It is, of course it is.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (44:23):
really Everyone knows dandelions.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Fair enough.
Where was I going with that?
Yes, I had no idea I was goingto go somewhere.
Yes, I had no idea I was goingto go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
So what should they do?
Yeah, I mean.
The first thing is aself-assessment.
Why are you going to keepspending time and money the more
thing is the time just sittingthere in that room?
Are you getting genuineconnections out of the room?
Are you getting the knowledgethat you need out of that room?
Or maybe it's the wrong room?
Maybe you're going to the wrongrooms.
Maybe you need to start freshand go seek someone else.
(45:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, or maybe the problem isn't in the room, maybe
it's in your head.
That's right.
As a business owner, you arethe biggest cap to your
business's potential.
How well your business is doingis 95% a reflection on you.
I think there are some externalthings.
(45:21):
Yeah, like if you're in a badmarket economy you know, most
big businesses were built in badeconomies Markets you can
control this, but you choose themarket too.
Yeah, if you're stuck in thesame position and I'll share
this to close out this episode Ihad a call with someone and
(45:47):
they were telling me about how,uh, they they need to overcome
this next hurdle, but they don'tknow how.
And I was like, okay, well,what's the problem?
And they're like, oh, we don'thave leads.
And I was like, okay, cool, socan we take on more work?
And they're like, oh, no, wecan't, we're full.
I was like, oh, so the problemisn't you don't have leads, it's
(46:11):
that you're full.
And they're like, yeah, butwe're not making money.
And I was like so you're full,you're not making money and you
don't have leads.
And he's like, yeah, and I waslike dude, you're the problem.
This is all in your head.
You know what I mean.
How can all those things behappening?
You know what I mean.
It doesn't make any sense.
You think you need leads?
(46:39):
no money, but you can't take onany more work and I'm like and
so you go from marketing to abusiness coach.
Me, dude, I can't.
I go from marketing totherapist so much it's not even
funny.
I'm gonna raise my rates andstart saying, like this is a
therapy call.
Now what if those people arefilling?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
the wrong cup because you said they're in their head
right yeah our head is like madeout of like chemicals and shit,
dopamine, everything and thoseself-developing things give you
a boost of rush yeah, they'relike they're just filled with it
you saw it at our last event,like how pumped everyone was in
(47:12):
and then that's it.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
They're happy with that, so they're filling the
wrong cup to begin with yeah,but then they keep going around
in the same loops, over and overand over and over, you know.
But if they were content, ifthey were happy with everything,
and it was like I'm gettingeverything I need out of just
(47:36):
attending so the first cause isincorrect to begin with, isn't
it what?
Do you?
Speaker 1 (47:42):
mean the first cause.
So they're trying to fill thedeveloping cup, whereas it
should be the expanding cup, notthe developing one I think it's
more so the using what you knowmore than anything else.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
You know what I mean because, like, they've learned
stuff they haven't implementedand then they continue on in
that same round.
And if you go to these seminarsand you're there just to you
know, connect with people andnetwork cool, but that's a
result.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Hey, that's a result.
That's that's a result, that'san actionable item that they're
going there for.
Yeah, because I know people, Iwould say most people don't do
it.
I know people we both know thisperson that has gone to the same
training about 12 times andit's a four-day training and
he's been to it 12 times.
I said, dude, what are youdoing?
He goes.
Every time I go, he goes.
I know the thing off by heart,he goes.
(48:35):
But every time I go I get newclients, he goes, so I go there.
For that reason I said, okay,that's fair enough.
So he's not necessarily goingthere for the training
specifically, even though hegoes.
Yeah, look, I've been thereenough now I almost know it off
by heart.
But I do get.
I still write stuff down.
I'll still get a few thingshere and there, but it goes.
I go to the network, I get somenumbers.
(48:55):
We end up signing a few peopleup each time we go.
So I don't care, that's alrightthen.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Yeah, well, that person has a reason to go back,
I guess, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, exactly, exactly Awesome.
Well, well, well, well,touching that event, space world
and some video game world,which will probably need some
help Tell me how to get myTwitch set up.
It's still on PlayStation,don't you?
Isn't it an app?
It's an account.
I'm sure you can figure it out.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Is it 100%?
I don't have a clue at all,you'll figure it out.
I just want people to tune in.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
What you play FIFA, yeah, you play fifa, yeah,
because you're a gun or call ofduty.
What's your?
Do you play lebanon when you?
Is that your team?
Of course, who else?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
would you play lebanon or australia?
Speaker 2 (49:44):
and you dominate the world.
Other countries like the teamsbetter psn network.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Oh sick, I haven't done that before lebanese,
although my son plays on myaccount.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Lebanese Warrior 77.
Please tell me, that's real nahplease tell me that's real nah
that would be.
That would be the greatestthing ever.
It's alright.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'm Greek, nah, I've got a weird PlayStation name.
It's like Moon Pie August.
Yeah, that was my line.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
That would also.
I bought my PlayStation secondhand.
Oh, did you?
Speaker 3 (50:15):
so you just kept their account.
I moved all the details over tomine and just kept rolling them
Still log into shout out toJordan.
Still log into the user and itsays Jordan, cool, I've had it
for like five years, dude, thatis funny.
Just never, ever, ever changedit Too good.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Too good.
Well, you've got other thingsthat you need to be doing
instead of wasting your timechanging usernames.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, like filling my cup.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
That's right.
Well, guys, fill your cup, takeaction, self-audit yourself and
see what's going on in yourlife.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Self-audit yourself.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Self-audit yourself.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Self-audit someone else.
You can't.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
No, you can't do that you can't do, that, that's
impossible.
But thank you very much fortuning in again for Million
Dollar Days and we look forwardto seeing you next week and, as
always, I hope you're having amillion-dollar day.
Cannot wait for the nextepisode.
Bye, everybody, peace out.
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