June 11, 2023 • 36 mins
Your host Shyra DeJuan, has an intellectual and inspiring interview session with special guest Bread Winna CJ (Camerson M.). Bread Winna CJ has trusted Mind Elevation Health and Wealth as the podcast platform to share his passion in music. Bread Winna CJ uses his musical talent to create inspiring and positive hip hop music. His focus is on mental health awareness for ALL people. This young man expresses his knowledge in healing, gives great relationship advice and discusses the importance of having healing conversations! Use the links in the notes to purchase merch from his clothing line: Desire Is Energy! SUPPORT our YOUTH!
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one of the biggest things youcan do for yourself being in
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these relationships is learning.
Growing and elevating together,as long as you guys are
together, even though that youare young and it is probably a
big possibility that you may notbe with this person in the
future.
They don't, why not make themost of it.
Like living in the moment.
Living in the moment.
Smiles champion.
Welcome to mind elevation healthand well, I am your host Shire
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DeWine, and I have with metoday, another interview I have
Ray went to.
A CJ.
He has chosen mind elevationhealth and well.
To do his interview and promotehimself as well as promote
mental health in the blackcommunity.
Hello, everyone.
It's your boy railing to CJ.
I was 11th grade aware in summer23 now, so I'm a senior, I'm
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going into my senior year.
I'm enrolled in the dual creditcourses at far high school.
I make elevator music about thecommunity.
unifying as a people.
And overall elevating as acollective.
So, you know, that's just myintro and yeah.
Well, thank you for the greatintroduction and I am excited to
have you today.
because we know that mindelevation health and wealth is
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about mental health.
It's about how you can buildgenerational wealth and it's
about, taking care of thecommunity and, making sure that
our family is okay, making surethat our friends are okay.
And just focusing on things thatcan make us better.
I also like to promote talent.
and I have a lot of talentedstudents.
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Where I want to see, Jay is oneof those talented students that
just stands out.
So I want it to be able topromote him on the show.
So we're going to start with,Why did you choose mental
health?
and the black community assomething you really wanted to
focus on in your career.
Well, I feel like just beingaside of, you know, any
community, but it's, it's beenspecifically our community.
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The black and Hispanic andLatino grantees, something that
you notice a lie is aglorification of a life that is
not indicative to elevation.
And by that, what I mean is, youknow what I'm saying?
It's a lot of things that weglorify and uphold that are
just, they're just not, they'renot, they're not gonna have you
growing in the future.
So this all ties back into yourmental health because a lot of
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times you think, okay, you'retrying to do this because this
was being glorified.
This was being cool.
When in reality, the end resultin is you being depressed.
You actually not being happywith yourself and just overall
not living a life.
That's once again, indicative togrow.
So when you say things likethis, can you give us an example
of what are the things thatyou're talking about That will
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not be indicative to grow.
so for example, a lot of themusic I'm going to go to go hang
into it.
So a lot of the music that wepush throughout our communities
talks a lot about, you know, uh,killing, stealing, you know,
what I'm saying, taking thingscommitting crimes and just
overall, not really being in ahigh vibrational state of mind.
And, I feel like at the end ofthat day, you know what you put
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into your spirit, AKA music, AKAliterature, things of disorder,
that's what comes out into yourflesh and you know, your body
movement.
So if this is all you'relistening to, you're listening
to a whole bunch of drill, rapmusic.
You're listening to a wholebunch of music, just telling you
to go ahead and go out and be acriminal after awhile.
It'll sit in yourunselfconscious mind for so long
until it manifests into yourdaily actions.
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I totally agree.
And I also have a podcastepisode on what you consume on
your consumption.
So basically you're saying whenyou continue to consume those
things, or if you allow yourselfto consume those things, Whether
it's something negative, whetherit's music, that's negative,
whether you're watching TV showsthat are negative reality TV,
like the negative reality TV,those types of things.
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When you consume it, it kind ofbecomes a part of you.
So I like the way that youaddress that.
So you say that in music?
You create music.
So tell me about the type ofmusic that you create.
I'm gonna just give myself aplug real quick.
My YouTube is braille.
When it CJ y'all can go look meup on there.
But, I actually have, anywherefrom, I want to say 35 to 50
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songs out right now.
And.
UDI side, I've been making musicand publishing it for at least
the past three to four years.
So on my YouTube, I haven'tdeleted any of my songs because,
I feel like music is areflection of your spirit, where
you're at spiritually is goingto reflect on your time, the
things that you say and themusic that you create and
produce.
So with that being said, a lotof my older music in the past,
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it was, a little bit moreaggressive, a little bit more
volatile and violent, you know,but as I raised in elevation
raised the vibration on.
On my spiritual journey.
Began to stop making music thatwas indicative to death and
began to make music that wasindicative to life.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
What is one of your favoritesongs that you have that they
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can find on YouTube that you,feel can touch someone's spirit
or possibly changed?
Someone's wiper.
I said, will you change a younggentleman or a young.
A woman that may be strugglingwith something.
So what song would you recommendfor them to listen to on
YouTube?
I have a song out calleduncontrolled and it's a remix to
the future song, person on and Iactually made a remix of it
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because I know on that song.
future actually talked a lotabout just, not being overall,
just a good person, just, thethings future tense around about
no Tino's shaped the future.
But with that being said, when Idecided I was going to do, I
said, okay, this beat righthere.
The Melanie's and the 8 0 8 onhis beat.
They're so good.
Let me take this and then throwin a spin of positivity.
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Elevation, even a bit of gospelin there as well.
So I wouldn't recommend,Uncontrolled.
It's a remixed, a future song,and it's on my, YouTube.
All right.
So do you also create your ownbeats or do you use beats from
somewhere else?
What is, your future hope?
Are you in music?
So currently right now, I'm notcreating my own beads.
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I tend to get my beats, the freefor profit beats from YouTube, a
good amount of the time.
But, in the future, of course Iwanna have my own producer.
I want to have my own studio.
I even want to look towardsexpanding and creating my own
record label in the future.
I feel like music is so volatileand important and really
incremental because you got tolook at it.
Music is the one thing thatenters your body life without
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consent.
You know what I'm saying?
No matter where you are, as longas you hear music, you can't
unhear.
It's going to automate, you'regoing to automatically read.
Do you like it or not?
It's going to be in yourairplane.
You're going to have toacknowledge it.
So, uh, In the future.
I want to go ahead and build upmy own team.
Out my own distribution and justoverall.
take over and reverse thenarrative of the negativity
that's associated with hip hop,rap music right now.
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And.
put it more on a positiveelevator rope.
So now you've mentioned that youwant to possibly have your own
recording label on studio.
so are those your official goalsas your career where I now in
business?
Or what are you planning ongetting your degree in?
Or what do you plan on pursuingas far as career goals?
So, uh, right now I've beendoing a lot of speculating on
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what I want to really go tocollege for and do, overall,
like as far as, college anddegrees, things that are sorry,
but, I do know it's something Ihaven't done at a young age
because I had recognized mycalling in life.
I felt like what my calling is,is, you know, not to get in the
spiritual aspect or anything,but even if you look in the
Bible, it tells us how, you knowwhat I'm saying.
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Uh, Lucifer or the devil.
He was the angel, the music.
And with that being said, I feellike a lot of the music nowadays
is, once again, not.
The indicative to row.
So when I'm going to do where Ifeel like my calling is with the
knowledge I have, that I'vebuilt up over the years and the.
Musical talent that I have, Ifeel like I would be able to put
those things together and affectthe world on a global
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standpoint.
Once again, of course, you know,to, you have to see first the
kingdom of God, all things willbe added unto you basically
saying, you will be able tofinancially sustain yourself if,
you know, answer your Carlin.
So, you know, I don't reallythink too much about it because
I just know, it's all a mindsetthing, you have to match the
vibration of the things you wantto manifest in your life.
So I just kinda, you know, Ijust kind of live and I lo like
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at the end of the day, as longas I do what's right.
I do what God is calling, askingme to do.
I feel like I'll be financially,spiritually, mentally, mostly
all those things you said onthere, on that, on that one.
I feel like I'll be able to goahead and sustain myself those
ways.
Yes.
Ma'am that's the direction thatyou're going.
Even just sitting across from meright now, I can just feel the
energy.
And so I love that.
And we talked about that in thepast before about feeling
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energy, about high vibrations,about elevating yourself.
And you do that around theschool, we, have.
A pretty small school.
And CJ actually walks and talks.
Everything that he's stating.
We are not perfect though.
So you have made mistakes.
The path that you have grown,but you've gone for that and you
are continuing to grow.
So what would you tell theyounger generation?
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What is your message for theyounger generation?
Uh, the odd Ollie youngins outthere, or rather the youngest,
the younger generation.
Oh, what I'm going to say isjust stay true to yourself.
You know, a lot of things and beinfluenced by the people that
are around you.
A lot of habits that you canpick up, aren't something that
you would originally thought youwould do.
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Oh, because of the people thatyou hang around, these are the
types of things that you pickedup.
I remember someone told me onetime, if you hang around six
millionaires, you'll be theseventh one.
You know?
So with that being said, youhave to watch the people that
you hang around you.
A lot of times, we like to goahead and give other people to
me and over this and why thatmeans, I mean, like taking the
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type of advice and this advice,just so you don't have to do the
thinking.
So a lot of times that's allright, but you want to make sure
if you're taking that advice,that's going to be critical to
your life in the future.
Then you want to make sure thatyou're surrounded by the right
individuals.
So if you hang aroundmillionaires, you can be.
I'm a millionaire.
If you're hanging aroundcriminals, you're going to
become a criminal criminal.
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I like that.
So let's talk a little bitabout, you said that you're
calling.
Is, music promoting positivemusic.
Promoting mine elevation.
But then also mental health.
Or people of color.
So talk to us more about that.
When I talk about the mentalhealth, I think a good a person
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to really put a a light on wouldbe, uh, a rapper that passed
away not too long ago.
Um, SSS plantation.
And one of the biggest thingswith him was, uh, he actually
made a lot of music that was, orat least in his earlier days.
That was a little bit, it was alittle bit volatile, but as he
moved.
Further he started making.
I would look at more tailored topeople that were sad or
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depressed had more of a, like alow vibratory field too.
It's something we figured outthrough.
Uh, John said, or, you know,Exit segmentation woods, the
power of music through vibrationand frequencies and the level of
frequency that the music isoperating on that can affect
your all personal resonance.
So with that being said, I feellike mental health is just so,
so important.
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I had a song recently and Isaid, I know you really want to,
get your money up and get thatcash, but don't forget it's
about your mental health first,because if you're not in a right
state mentally, there's no wayyou would be able to go out to
your job and work.
Or how to be an entrepreneur inVegas because you're not in the
right mental state.
So mental health is extremelyimportant and critical,
especially in our communities.
And the reason for that is,going back to what I said
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earlier.
It's not something that's justembraced by the community.
Specifically the blackcommunity.
We know.
Oh, how you doing, and reallydig deep and like do that.
No, no, no.
We need to start doing that andunderstanding that.
Everyone has a voice that needsto be heard.
And if we want these.
Teen suicide rates are goingdown.
depression rates to go down,anxiety rates in our communities
go down.
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Then it starts withcommunication.
I believe.
Communication is the key toelevation.
I love that.
Are you surrounded by black menthat are healed or that are
actually working for healing ordo you often bring up
conversations?
To like maybe an older black manthat may need some healing and
has not actually been open todo.
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That type of healing work.
Why do you think a lot of blackmen.
Choose not to work on theirmental health, or choose not to
talk about their mental health.
I think it's the shame of beingembarrassed.
a lot of things that really hurtyour spirit, it hurts your
mental body.
whenever you verbalize them, youspeak them.
They kind of sounded like alittle, it puts you in jeopardy,
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you know, and almost makes youfeel like, okay, well, if I say
this, the in the future, if thisperson gets mad at me, they can
throw it back in my face.
And it's just about being aroundthe right people and being in
the space as comfortable.
to go back to your question,asking, like what type of people
do I have around me personally?
I feel like that's one of mybiggest things that I had to
come to the self realization of.
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And so those that are listeningright now, I'm hearing that you
guys are listening because it'sgood to hear a voice, tell you
that you have to be in a placewhere you are valued,
intellectual knowledge.
Is only looked at from a certainperspective by people that have
the sense to look at it becausesome people will literally not
care at all, but this sameinformation is literally what's
keeping a generational curses.
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Keep in, you know what I'msaying?
Uh, downgraded as a community.
This is some really real goodinformation.
So I feel like it's just aboutmaking sure you're around the
right people that will go aheadand elevate you that want to see
you when want to see you bribeon is he.
Be your best self.
And don't go out of your way.
I repeat this one, do not go outof your way to put yourself in
circles that you think, okay,well, this is a cool group.
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I'm going to, Hey, I'm going todeliberately go out of my way to
hang around these people.
Knowing that your energy doesnot master energy and what they
ended up doing your light andhave an interference with their
dark.
And a lot of times, the way thatthat manifests is through, uh,
physical altercations and tostay away from that.
You should go ahead and birds ofa feather.
Don't try to put yourself in adifferent flock because you
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think the grass greener.
The grass never green.
You're right.
The other thing is, Sometimes itis hard or.
Uh, man.
Sometimes women too.
To be vulnerable.
And to open up and what made mesay that is you mentioned, You
have to be in a space where youfeel comfortable talking about.
Something that's wrong, becausesometimes.
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When people are vulnerable.
They feel like they're beingseen as weak.
Uh, how do you feel about this?
I think that's exactly thebiggest key point, you know, you
think because you're vulnerable,you're weak, but you have to
really rehash and relax thesethings in order to heal from
them.
You know, so that's why, again,it's important to be in the
right spaces at the right time,you know, uh, a lot of trauma
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that you can do with, it's notthis trauma that's like you're
dealing with because it's justsitting in your spirit or
because you just randomlyreminisced on it.
But at the end of the day,whenever hard times calamities,
you know what I'm saying?
Uh, the world wields wheneverthey spend into your life and is
literally something that you'venever dealt with before.
A lot of times what we tend todo, we tend to deal with it.
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And then the next day shove itall the way down.
We're thinking about shovingthings all the way down is that
eventually they will have to mysurface.
So whenever they resurface, youhave to make sure that, you have
to identify these things forwhat they are.
You're not just feeling thistype of way, because always
randomly coming up.
Let me just change it.
Let me do something to get mymind off.
No.
Deal with that.
So in the future, whenever itcomes back, you're not having to
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go to war with yourself to say,what can I do to get my mind off
of this?
Instead you actually be able togo ahead and feel good.
It will refresh knowing that youdealt with this in your brain.
I totally believe that becauseit has a lot to do with
relationships, whether you'rebuilding a relationship, a
normal person, a personalrelationship.
Or whether you're billing aromantic relationship, A lot of
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times.
Childhood trauma.
If it's not healed, if it's notaddressed, if it's not talked
about, and it's just layingdormant, as you spoke about in
someone's brain and we'llproject.
Into your relationships, right?
So I often hear men and womensometimes talk about, every
relationship ends up like thisbecause they're not realizing
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that they're actually buildingtrauma bonds.
And not actually building arelationship where.
Two people are either workingtowards healing together or
healed and come together.
and so they start projectingthat trauma, And it becomes a,
cycle where every relationshipthey get into.
The same thing happened in thatrelationship.
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The same thing happened in thatgroup.
And the common nominator is youhaven't worked on this part of
yourself that needs to behealed.
right.
And so when you are talkingabout that in communities with
people of color, the cyclecontinues, it's a generational
thing, right?
Um, if your mom was abused oryour, or if your father was an
alcoholic, or if you wereassaulted in some type of way,
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you're carrying that.
Don't heal from that.
And then in your mind, like yousaid earlier, It's still there.
Of seats.
So what is your view on healingand then entering and starting a
relationship?
I believe that once again, youneed to heal before going into a
relationship.
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And a lot of times, if you'reequally yoked with someone it's
not just about being 100% healedsometime, you know, cause a lot
of times you'll be 80% here andsewing, gnosis 50% here and that
can either have two mainresults.
One, the first, the first resultis a positive result.
The first is, you're elevated sohigh and you know, they're low,
they're a little bit lower.
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So you're, you're coming down tobring them up to where you are
and not a child guys on the samelevel.
Y'all.
I can't elevate from there.
The worst.
So part would be a stepping intomore of a manipulative state
knowing that, okay, this personis, uh, you know, they're
vibrating on a lower frequencyright now.
They're not really at where theycould be as far as mentally
going.
So you being there, you almosttry to take advantage of it.
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you know, that person hascertain things that are sorry,
and those are the things thatyou really want to stay away
from, especially if you can,process yourself consciously
doing it because you don't wantto take advantage of anyone.
You know, we believe that thingsthat we do come back to us.
So if you think that takingadvantage.
Outage of someone and you'regoing to be able to just do a
whole bunch of, for lack of abetter word dirt, and it's not
going to come back to you andthat's just going to happen.
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Then you're sadly mistakenbecause of the things that you
do, they tend to come back toyou.
If you notice on is maybe at alower emotional state of
vibrating and lowered, andthey're sad, and you guys are
finding yourselves in arelationship, then go out of
your way to help them elevate towhere you are, a body, your way
to do that, because that is thebest way to go ahead and elevate
in a relationship.
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You just said you can be healedat about 80%.
You was still based on one thatmight be healed or about 50%,
but would you have to know thatthis person is actually working
on their trauma?
Before you enter that.
Cause you're a young man.
How old are you?
I'm 17, 17 years old.
So you're a 17 year old, right?
You're just now starting life.
Really?
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When you think about it, so yourrelationships that you have now
may not be the relationship thatyou have.
If you decide to go to college,you're going to meet.
More people and you are aladies, man.
So, you know, When you go intoyour adulthood, knowing these
things, cause you're alreadyextremely knowledgeable.
When you start actively dating,or if you are actively dating,
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are you open to have theseconversations?
You have to be, especially ifyou want to be in a serious
relationship.
Now, at least everyone, asyou're a young being 16, 17, 18,
even going into 19, even goinginto your early twenties, a lot
of the relationships that youget in this.
Let's keep it a book, guys.
It's not going to last, I mean,let's keep it a hundred, but
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what you doing to realize is.
because there was a possibility,I'm sure you guys have heard of
high school sweethearts, youjust find in my high school that
this is your person for life,that's like a very aware you.
Incident.
So with that being said, I feellike one of the biggest things
you can do for yourself being inthese relationships is learning.
Growing and elevating together,as long as you guys are
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together, even though that youare young and it is probably a
big possibility that you may notbe with this person in the
future.
your best bet is the facial guyshave vibrated.
So each other in this day andage, They don't, why not make
the most of it.
And when our time is up, ourtime is up and, you know, I love
you.
I thank you for be here with me,but I feel like since you're,
since we're here right now,let's make the most out of this
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situation.
Like living in the moment.
Living in the moment.
Because essentially you'resaying.
You may work out.
You may not enjoy the time thatyou are together.
The growth that you are togetherbecause.
Just like in mind, elevationhealth and wealth.
I values of a healthyrelationship.
W on that podcast, we discuss.
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The research that I did onfives, financial, intellectual,
physical, emotional, spiritual.
And once you realize, we may notbe growing in that same
direction.
You can say, look, it was agreat.
We had a great time.
It was a wonderful lesson inthis relationship.
I think it's time to grow andmove forward.
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Right.
We can't keep doing that.
All the time you can't keepdoing that, you know?
But I do think that's a verymuch.
Yeah, sure.
To think about relationshipsinstead of always just focusing
on my forever human.
My forever.
A person.
Yeah.
In the same sense, you'reworking on yourself to find your
person.
So when do you feel your bestself.
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I feel my best self.
Whenever I've known, I've done alot of work.
I think we can bring up my,entry and when of the hip-hop
emphas.
So for those of you that didn'tknow.
hip-hop and Fest is a annualcompetition.
And basically it's aroundcompensation about building up
financial literacy inside of ourcommunities and my, our
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communities, of course, I meanthe Hispanic, the Latino, the
black community things aredisorder.
People of color, even the rightcommunity.
Building up that financialliteracy.
So with that being said, I mademy entry.
into the hip-hop emphas.
I one to God be the glory, ofcourse, but, whenever I want, I
was actually able to go ahead.
I took a paid trip to Orlando,Florida, and I, while I was in
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Orlando, I had two days where Iperform one of my gospel songs,
uncontrolled.
The one I mentioned to you guysearlier, the second day I
performed the song that made mewhen the hip hop Fanfest and my
last day there, I actually wentto universal studios, but all
that second day, I justremember.
Being at the hotel.
And, I was just chilling.
There was of course a five starhotel, it was on the, uh, it was
the B resort at universal.
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And whenever I was there, I justremember.
I was on the phone.
and I was just looking up atseven I'm like, man, this is
like a, I call it a energeticdisperse because you guys have
to look at it.
It's one thing to make your workand your pleasure.
But whenever you are able to.
Go ahead and incorporate yourpassion into that.
And I was like, okay, not onlyam I getting paid?
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Not only am I doing my passion,but now I'm able to relax and
enjoy myself as well.
I think that's when I feel mybest self, whenever I have to
actually put in a lot of work, Iknow I've been working and
finally the work pays off.
Don't forget guys.
Our work definitely pays off.
Yes.
And there's a thing called flowwhen you're in alone.
That means you're doingsomething that you love to do,
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That's something that youdesire.
That's your passion.
You make put 10 to 12 hours intoit and it doesn't even feel like
it because you're doingsomething.
And then, like you said, it's alot of hard work.
And then it pays off.
Your shirt says desire isenergy.
I like that.
Let's get into desires, energyvery quickly.
So of course, God, if you didn'tknow, I'm actually one of the
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COO the chief operating officerat a clothing line in Houston
called.
Desire is energy.
Now I'm going to go ahead andexplain to you guys what
actually desires energy is.
desire is energy is actually.
The closing line based out ofHouston.
what our motto is is once youget the desire to do something,
you have to go ahead and getthat energy to do it and get it
done.
Now what this is, guys isactually a mindset.
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Once you adapt this mindset andyou understand, it's not just
about waiting, it's just about.
You know, the Bible says faithwithout works is dead.
It's not just about havingfaith.
You have to know that youactually have to step out on
faith, make this happen, andactually do your best to go
ahead and try to come back withsomething that is, of substance
and of value.
So what we say is guys, we havea website is
www.desireisenergy.com.
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If you guys want him to go getsome merge, but I'm on the back
of our shirts.
Because earlier we were talkingabout how it's a mindset and
once you adapt that you'll befinancially free.
You would be able to financiallysustain yourself, but listen
guy.
No matter how much money youhave, if you don't have the
knowledge or the wisdom to bringthose together, then you're not
going to be, economically.
Financially experience.
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Mostly, you're not going to besuccessful in that aspects on
the back of our shirts, aportion of them that we call
them the hard chains he designson all the back of them.
They say Psalm 37 and 40, whichis, if you delight yourself in
the Lord, he'll give you thedesires of your heart.
And it's basically telling youguys, you have to censor all of
your, once.
You have to send to them and,unconditional love, peace,
gratitude, tranquility.
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Whenever you put these as your,as your team values in life and
your morals, then everythingthat you do, everything that
comes from your mouth, all ofyour actions will be in.
Negative of them.
And like we said earlier, whatwe believe is what you put out,
comes back to you.
So if that's the only thingyou're putting out, that's the
only thing you have and they'regoing to receive, desire is
energy.
And once again, You can feel theenergy.
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it's just here.
Uh, it has the love, the energyof love, the energy is
motivation.
The energy is elevation is allhere.
so you have been.
Been speaking to the championstoday and I'm sure that we all
learned a lot.
Is there anything else that I'mforgetting about, what else
would you like to discuss?
I would just say stay motivatedand whatever you think or know
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that your calling is, a lot oftimes we put in a lot of work
and the things that we thinkjust because you're not
immediately seeing the resultsthat your work was done in vain
or your work has no.
value to it, but I want you toknow that anything that you're
putting 100% into, you're goingto get 100% out.
You just have to remain rootedand grounded in love.
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Unconditional love at thattranquility, being safe,
gratitude, you have to begrateful for what you have.
So God, the creator can give youmore and that's basically it.
Women just stay in positivestamp.
Lift is damn motivated knowingthat you have to go out and get
it and come back with it.
Yeah.
I love that.
Now I'm an educator.
And I love and enjoy pouringinto my students.
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Now that you've given advice toour young audience, what advice
would you give to an adult?
that works with, or that mayhave children.
Or that may have nieces andnephews.
What.
Advise what you give.
An adult.
To help them pour into.
the younger generation.
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Okay.
Well, my Alliance is beingopen-minded and nine judgment.
So I'm going to go ahead andshout out miseries and Ms.
Vernon.
Because they have actuallypoured into me a lot.
When you use the phrase pourinto that's basically going into
its own spirit and actuallygoing out of your way to build
them up.
And, in his last a month ofschool, I want to say, Ms.
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Vernon, of course I had her lastyear, but Ms.
Rodriguez has also just talk tome a lot about my life and also
my love life, my financial life,my physical life, my spiritual
life, like things are disorderedmy financial life.
And just making sure that I'mbuilt up to know right from
wrong and giving me the.
The discernment to know rightfrom wrong to choose to do.
Right.
So my advice to them would bejust have an open heart, have an
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open mind, and just don't bejudgmental because a lot of
these mistakes that we're makingas younger people, or as your
child, as your student, as yourniece, as your nephew are a lot
of these mistakes.
going, growing up in life, youprobably make them too.
And you probably know like,okay, well don't, don't go.
And there's the ration.
Cause you may bump your head.
You know, that's the best thing.
Whenever you're in the duration,you're going somewhere where you
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may, physically harm yourself ormake a mistake that, you can't
come back from and you havesomeone to tell you Hello, don't
do that because that's going tolead to that.
How about you going in?
If the ration you do this, or wecan lead to this.
So it's all about using thatknowledge and wisdom that you
already have from your years ofexperience to help the younger
generation.
Yes.
Ma'am.
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Yeah.
And I like to use that in myprofession as an educator, too.
Not only pour into my students.
But also pull out what theirtalents are.
Whenever we do entrepreneurship,I say.
What was your dream beforesomeone stole it from you?
Because a lot of times adultswill tell you, oh, you can't do
that.
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You can't do that.
And so then that child starts tobelieve they can't do it and
they give up on that dream.
So when I try to get my studentsto tap into who they really want
to be, I have to bring them backto their childhood dream because
somebody might have some adult.
May have not intentionally stolethat dream and that goal from
them.
I like to bring it back andremind them that yes, you can do
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that.
You still have the opportunityto do that.
I like to also tap into thecreative side of students, which
is, you know what I think whatkind of drew us together is I
enjoy your, what.
What you talk about the messageswe have to share also enjoy your
creativity.
He also won a.
A poetry contest.
Air at the school.
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Do you have that piece?
I did not have.
I think I have the videos on.
I'm worth on my find that Andshe did, they had the video, but
I wanted to go back to what youjust said.
Uh, still in the dream.
So.
And share a story with you guys.
Whenever I was in, I want to sayyes, it was second grade.
I was in second grade and Idon't know when I was in second
grade, I just had it passionateto my spirit.
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I just want it to be the Senatorlike Senator, I don't want to be
the Senator.
So one day I had his teacher,his name was Mr.
Howcome and.
he told me I was talking to himand I was, he was telling me
about, I, what do you want to dowith your life things or the
story I was telling him how Ididn't really, at the time, of
course, I'm a second grade.
What second grader likes towrite?
I told him, I was like, man, Idon't really like it.
I didn't like that.
And he was like, Well, it.
You want to be the Senator oryou probably won't be a good
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Senator because they have to doa lot of writing for the
president and for the state andall of this.
And he said, well, maybe, maybeyou just want to be a retailer.
They don't have to do a lot ofwriting.
And at the time I just took thatand my spirit like, oh, I just
received that.
Like, okay, I don't gotta do alot of writing.
Let me be a retailer.
So I went back home to my momand I told her that she was
like, well, uh, CJ, you have tounderstand that a retailer could
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be, just a person at I'm runninga convenience store, things of
the sort.
And she explained to me that youcan't let people.
verbally.
Talk you out of your dreams, youhave to know that, you know what
I'm saying?
This is something that'sassigned my spirit because it's
something that I really want todo.
So this is my message toeverybody.
if you got a dream, he chaseyour dream.
Don't let that stop.
You don't let words demotivate.
You don't let nothing stop youfrom being your best version of
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yourself.
I am glad that you mentionedthat because that's the value of
having a parent.
That believes in you as well,right?
Because you could have went homeand said, my teacher said that
and your mom could have said.
You know?
Yeah.
Right.
Because as a parent, because wealso want to speak to parents
because there may be a parentright now, they're struggling
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with it.
With their child that is notdoing or going the right
direction.
You have to remind that child.
And they can still be whateverthey want to be.
That you can still follow yourdreams.
So you've had a lot of positive.
Adults in your life.
And I have been able to keep yougoing and keep you.
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Uh, stay up on your goals andyour dreams, and that's a
blessing.
Nationally and in my community,we know.
That's all of us.
Didn't have those adults.
we didn't have those teachersthat were open.
And then the teacher in secondgrade, he's talking to second
graders, but you remember that.
And that's the thing.
I think sometimes the.
No think, oh, they're young.
They're not going to know.
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We remember those things.
And that becomes our identity.
If it's not corrected.
Then God goes with immediatelycorrected.
Yes, Mike had it not beencorrected, that would have been
your mindset.
So as he's speaking to adults,He's saying.
Watch how important to children?
Speak that positive into them.
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Speak their dreams and to them.
And help them.
And be open-minded you said, andnon-gender.
Mexico is as a young man, youknow, you make some mistakes.
You'd be like, whoa, that Ireally made that my state, you
did.
I need to talk to somebodythat's open-minded and I go,
judge.
And I'm going to judge you Ortell you the lesson.
Yeah.
'cause I like to do that.
I like to say this is thelesson.
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You did it.
You make a mistake.
Okay.
We can go along, but what'd youlearn from it?
You gotta learn.
All right.
So I address all of my listenersas champions because we are all
champions.
What are three things?
What are the three mindsetbeliefs that make you a
champion?
CJ.
Three mindset.
Beliefs that make me a championis I know that I can never stop
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going.
I came too far to quit.
Secondly, I know that I have tohave a good connection with the
creator.
You have to pray.
If you're not religious, youdon't, you don't have, they
don't have to be.
You matter of face, if you'renot religious.
And matter of fact, just goahead and make sure you don't
well on the days that you wantit to prosper, whether that's
through writing them down,whether that's through praying
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rather than just repeating themin your head, doing the three,
six lines I heard of that too,about a Tesla, you know,
wherever you feel, there's goingto be working for you to produce
it for you, do your thing, butgo out your way.
And my last thing is stayingpositive.
You have this eight pound littleguys.
There are so many negativethings.
When you try to call yourselfgoing on a road to elevation and
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unity in the community and tryand live.
Differentiate right from wrongand choose to do right.
There are a lot of things thatwill come up against you, but no
matter what those things are, ifyou stay positive, you stay
uplifted.
I promise you will be okay.
All right.
And you can find all of rarewhen I see Jay's music on
YouTube.
Just type in brand one, a C J DR E.
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A D w I N N a C J and H onInstagram.
It is Brant when a underscore.
Fav same.
Okay.
On Instagram.
It is grant when an underscoresay that's B R E a D w I N N a.
Underscore S a B E E.
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And what did you say the acronymfor that is saved soon?
All beings, the WSI, it willevolve.
So it's basically just aboutthinking that every day that you
go and live life, yourinvolvement.
So.
I want to say.
Okay now.
I honestly believe that in thefuture.
he will be a music producer.
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music maker, all of his songswill be, and I'm manifesting
this for you.
all of his songs will be going,worldwide because that's, just
who he is.
And you have to know this youngman to understand this young man
he is a leader on this campus.
and not everybody receives that.
but he is a leader and he shineshere.
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So desire is energy.
You can go to the website,www.desireisenergy.com and
purchase your shirt.
On the back of that shirt hasPsalms 37, 4.
So that is great I think, Ithink we've done.
I think we've done a duty.
Y'all stay positive out here.
I'll end at this time.
You keep going down the road toelevation..
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communities, and listen to abreadwinner CJ's music on
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and pretty soon he will havemore music on apple music.
There is a song out there, buthe wrote it when he, before.
It's not 15, but I still wantedto throw that out there.
So he is on apple music as well.
So you guys next self-careSunday.
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Enjoy the lyrics to the song,uncontrolled written by
breadwinner, CJ, his message andgrowth is admirable.
Listen and listen.
Well, champions.
Let's say control of.
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Moving piece.
Stay out the streets.
They tend to take control of us.
I was off by myself.
But I ended up doing is I neededsome help.
I.
I went out every night.
I didn't mess with my help.
You guys attract.
So many nights has to look athis God.
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I had it from cried on my head.
I got it.
I'm sitting in him.
Praise.
He live into me now my, aboutRachel Ray.
I get that.
I ever got my bag.
My chips.
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All community.
Trying to make a better way foryou and me.
And our community trying to makea better way for.
All community trying to make upthat way for.
you and me.
one of the biggest things youcan do for yourself being in
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these relationships is learning.
Growing and elevating together,as long as you guys are
together, even though that youare young and it is probably a
big possibility that you may notbe with this person in the
future.
They don't, why not make themost of it.
Like living in the moment.
Living in the moment.
Smiles champion.
Welcome to mind elevation healthand well, I am your host Shire
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DeWine, and I have with metoday, another interview I have
Ray went to.
A CJ.
He has chosen mind elevationhealth and well.
To do his interview and promotehimself as well as promote
mental health in the blackcommunity.
Hello, everyone.
It's your boy railing to CJ.
I was 11th grade aware in summer23 now, so I'm a senior, I'm
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going into my senior year.
I'm enrolled in the dual creditcourses at far high school.
I make elevator music about thecommunity.
unifying as a people.
And overall elevating as acollective.
So, you know, that's just myintro and yeah.
Well, thank you for the greatintroduction and I am excited to
have you today.
because we know that mindelevation health and wealth is
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about mental health.
It's about how you can buildgenerational wealth and it's
about, taking care of thecommunity and, making sure that
our family is okay, making surethat our friends are okay.
And just focusing on things thatcan make us better.
I also like to promote talent.
and I have a lot of talentedstudents.
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Where I want to see, Jay is oneof those talented students that
just stands out.
So I want it to be able topromote him on the show.
So we're going to start with,Why did you choose mental
health?
and the black community assomething you really wanted to
focus on in your career.
Well, I feel like just beingaside of, you know, any
community, but it's, it's beenspecifically our community.
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The black and Hispanic andLatino grantees, something that
you notice a lie is aglorification of a life that is
not indicative to elevation.
And by that, what I mean is, youknow what I'm saying?
It's a lot of things that weglorify and uphold that are
just, they're just not, they'renot, they're not gonna have you
growing in the future.
So this all ties back into yourmental health because a lot of
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times you think, okay, you'retrying to do this because this
was being glorified.
This was being cool.
When in reality, the end resultin is you being depressed.
You actually not being happywith yourself and just overall
not living a life.
That's once again, indicative togrow.
So when you say things likethis, can you give us an example
of what are the things thatyou're talking about That will
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not be indicative to grow.
so for example, a lot of themusic I'm going to go to go hang
into it.
So a lot of the music that wepush throughout our communities
talks a lot about, you know, uh,killing, stealing, you know,
what I'm saying, taking thingscommitting crimes and just
overall, not really being in ahigh vibrational state of mind.
And, I feel like at the end ofthat day, you know what you put
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into your spirit, AKA music, AKAliterature, things of disorder,
that's what comes out into yourflesh and you know, your body
movement.
So if this is all you'relistening to, you're listening
to a whole bunch of drill, rapmusic.
You're listening to a wholebunch of music, just telling you
to go ahead and go out and be acriminal after awhile.
It'll sit in yourunselfconscious mind for so long
until it manifests into yourdaily actions.
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I totally agree.
And I also have a podcastepisode on what you consume on
your consumption.
So basically you're saying whenyou continue to consume those
things, or if you allow yourselfto consume those things, Whether
it's something negative, whetherit's music, that's negative,
whether you're watching TV showsthat are negative reality TV,
like the negative reality TV,those types of things.
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When you consume it, it kind ofbecomes a part of you.
So I like the way that youaddress that.
So you say that in music?
You create music.
So tell me about the type ofmusic that you create.
I'm gonna just give myself aplug real quick.
My YouTube is braille.
When it CJ y'all can go look meup on there.
But, I actually have, anywherefrom, I want to say 35 to 50
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songs out right now.
And.
UDI side, I've been making musicand publishing it for at least
the past three to four years.
So on my YouTube, I haven'tdeleted any of my songs because,
I feel like music is areflection of your spirit, where
you're at spiritually is goingto reflect on your time, the
things that you say and themusic that you create and
produce.
So with that being said, a lotof my older music in the past,
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it was, a little bit moreaggressive, a little bit more
volatile and violent, you know,but as I raised in elevation
raised the vibration on.
On my spiritual journey.
Began to stop making music thatwas indicative to death and
began to make music that wasindicative to life.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
What is one of your favoritesongs that you have that they
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can find on YouTube that you,feel can touch someone's spirit
or possibly changed?
Someone's wiper.
I said, will you change a younggentleman or a young.
A woman that may be strugglingwith something.
So what song would you recommendfor them to listen to on
YouTube?
I have a song out calleduncontrolled and it's a remix to
the future song, person on and Iactually made a remix of it
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because I know on that song.
future actually talked a lotabout just, not being overall,
just a good person, just, thethings future tense around about
no Tino's shaped the future.
But with that being said, when Idecided I was going to do, I
said, okay, this beat righthere.
The Melanie's and the 8 0 8 onhis beat.
They're so good.
Let me take this and then throwin a spin of positivity.
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Elevation, even a bit of gospelin there as well.
So I wouldn't recommend,Uncontrolled.
It's a remixed, a future song,and it's on my, YouTube.
All right.
So do you also create your ownbeats or do you use beats from
somewhere else?
What is, your future hope?
Are you in music?
So currently right now, I'm notcreating my own beads.
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I tend to get my beats, the freefor profit beats from YouTube, a
good amount of the time.
But, in the future, of course Iwanna have my own producer.
I want to have my own studio.
I even want to look towardsexpanding and creating my own
record label in the future.
I feel like music is so volatileand important and really
incremental because you got tolook at it.
Music is the one thing thatenters your body life without
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consent.
You know what I'm saying?
No matter where you are, as longas you hear music, you can't
unhear.
It's going to automate, you'regoing to automatically read.
Do you like it or not?
It's going to be in yourairplane.
You're going to have toacknowledge it.
So, uh, In the future.
I want to go ahead and build upmy own team.
Out my own distribution and justoverall.
take over and reverse thenarrative of the negativity
that's associated with hip hop,rap music right now.
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And.
put it more on a positiveelevator rope.
So now you've mentioned that youwant to possibly have your own
recording label on studio.
so are those your official goalsas your career where I now in
business?
Or what are you planning ongetting your degree in?
Or what do you plan on pursuingas far as career goals?
So, uh, right now I've beendoing a lot of speculating on
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what I want to really go tocollege for and do, overall,
like as far as, college anddegrees, things that are sorry,
but, I do know it's something Ihaven't done at a young age
because I had recognized mycalling in life.
I felt like what my calling is,is, you know, not to get in the
spiritual aspect or anything,but even if you look in the
Bible, it tells us how, you knowwhat I'm saying.
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Uh, Lucifer or the devil.
He was the angel, the music.
And with that being said, I feellike a lot of the music nowadays
is, once again, not.
The indicative to row.
So when I'm going to do where Ifeel like my calling is with the
knowledge I have, that I'vebuilt up over the years and the.
Musical talent that I have, Ifeel like I would be able to put
those things together and affectthe world on a global
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standpoint.
Once again, of course, you know,to, you have to see first the
kingdom of God, all things willbe added unto you basically
saying, you will be able tofinancially sustain yourself if,
you know, answer your Carlin.
So, you know, I don't reallythink too much about it because
I just know, it's all a mindsetthing, you have to match the
vibration of the things you wantto manifest in your life.
So I just kinda, you know, Ijust kind of live and I lo like
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at the end of the day, as longas I do what's right.
I do what God is calling, askingme to do.
I feel like I'll be financially,spiritually, mentally, mostly
all those things you said onthere, on that, on that one.
I feel like I'll be able to goahead and sustain myself those
ways.
Yes.
Ma'am that's the direction thatyou're going.
Even just sitting across from meright now, I can just feel the
energy.
And so I love that.
And we talked about that in thepast before about feeling
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energy, about high vibrations,about elevating yourself.
And you do that around theschool, we, have.
A pretty small school.
And CJ actually walks and talks.
Everything that he's stating.
We are not perfect though.
So you have made mistakes.
The path that you have grown,but you've gone for that and you
are continuing to grow.
So what would you tell theyounger generation?
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What is your message for theyounger generation?
Uh, the odd Ollie youngins outthere, or rather the youngest,
the younger generation.
Oh, what I'm going to say isjust stay true to yourself.
You know, a lot of things and beinfluenced by the people that
are around you.
A lot of habits that you canpick up, aren't something that
you would originally thought youwould do.
(09:03):
Oh, because of the people thatyou hang around, these are the
types of things that you pickedup.
I remember someone told me onetime, if you hang around six
millionaires, you'll be theseventh one.
You know?
So with that being said, youhave to watch the people that
you hang around you.
A lot of times, we like to goahead and give other people to
me and over this and why thatmeans, I mean, like taking the
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type of advice and this advice,just so you don't have to do the
thinking.
So a lot of times that's allright, but you want to make sure
if you're taking that advice,that's going to be critical to
your life in the future.
Then you want to make sure thatyou're surrounded by the right
individuals.
So if you hang aroundmillionaires, you can be.
I'm a millionaire.
If you're hanging aroundcriminals, you're going to
become a criminal criminal.
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I like that.
So let's talk a little bitabout, you said that you're
calling.
Is, music promoting positivemusic.
Promoting mine elevation.
But then also mental health.
Or people of color.
So talk to us more about that.
When I talk about the mentalhealth, I think a good a person
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to really put a a light on wouldbe, uh, a rapper that passed
away not too long ago.
Um, SSS plantation.
And one of the biggest thingswith him was, uh, he actually
made a lot of music that was, orat least in his earlier days.
That was a little bit, it was alittle bit volatile, but as he
moved.
Further he started making.
I would look at more tailored topeople that were sad or
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depressed had more of a, like alow vibratory field too.
It's something we figured outthrough.
Uh, John said, or, you know,Exit segmentation woods, the
power of music through vibrationand frequencies and the level of
frequency that the music isoperating on that can affect
your all personal resonance.
So with that being said, I feellike mental health is just so,
so important.
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I had a song recently and Isaid, I know you really want to,
get your money up and get thatcash, but don't forget it's
about your mental health first,because if you're not in a right
state mentally, there's no wayyou would be able to go out to
your job and work.
Or how to be an entrepreneur inVegas because you're not in the
right mental state.
So mental health is extremelyimportant and critical,
especially in our communities.
And the reason for that is,going back to what I said
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earlier.
It's not something that's justembraced by the community.
Specifically the blackcommunity.
We know.
Oh, how you doing, and reallydig deep and like do that.
No, no, no.
We need to start doing that andunderstanding that.
Everyone has a voice that needsto be heard.
And if we want these.
Teen suicide rates are goingdown.
depression rates to go down,anxiety rates in our communities
go down.
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Then it starts withcommunication.
I believe.
Communication is the key toelevation.
I love that.
Are you surrounded by black menthat are healed or that are
actually working for healing ordo you often bring up
conversations?
To like maybe an older black manthat may need some healing and
has not actually been open todo.
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That type of healing work.
Why do you think a lot of blackmen.
Choose not to work on theirmental health, or choose not to
talk about their mental health.
I think it's the shame of beingembarrassed.
a lot of things that really hurtyour spirit, it hurts your
mental body.
whenever you verbalize them, youspeak them.
They kind of sounded like alittle, it puts you in jeopardy,
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you know, and almost makes youfeel like, okay, well, if I say
this, the in the future, if thisperson gets mad at me, they can
throw it back in my face.
And it's just about being aroundthe right people and being in
the space as comfortable.
to go back to your question,asking, like what type of people
do I have around me personally?
I feel like that's one of mybiggest things that I had to
come to the self realization of.
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And so those that are listeningright now, I'm hearing that you
guys are listening because it'sgood to hear a voice, tell you
that you have to be in a placewhere you are valued,
intellectual knowledge.
Is only looked at from a certainperspective by people that have
the sense to look at it becausesome people will literally not
care at all, but this sameinformation is literally what's
keeping a generational curses.
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Keep in, you know what I'msaying?
Uh, downgraded as a community.
This is some really real goodinformation.
So I feel like it's just aboutmaking sure you're around the
right people that will go aheadand elevate you that want to see
you when want to see you bribeon is he.
Be your best self.
And don't go out of your way.
I repeat this one, do not go outof your way to put yourself in
circles that you think, okay,well, this is a cool group.
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I'm going to, Hey, I'm going todeliberately go out of my way to
hang around these people.
Knowing that your energy doesnot master energy and what they
ended up doing your light andhave an interference with their
dark.
And a lot of times, the way thatthat manifests is through, uh,
physical altercations and tostay away from that.
You should go ahead and birds ofa feather.
Don't try to put yourself in adifferent flock because you
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think the grass greener.
The grass never green.
You're right.
The other thing is, Sometimes itis hard or.
Uh, man.
Sometimes women too.
To be vulnerable.
And to open up and what made mesay that is you mentioned, You
have to be in a space where youfeel comfortable talking about.
Something that's wrong, becausesometimes.
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When people are vulnerable.
They feel like they're beingseen as weak.
Uh, how do you feel about this?
I think that's exactly thebiggest key point, you know, you
think because you're vulnerable,you're weak, but you have to
really rehash and relax thesethings in order to heal from
them.
You know, so that's why, again,it's important to be in the
right spaces at the right time,you know, uh, a lot of trauma
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that you can do with, it's notthis trauma that's like you're
dealing with because it's justsitting in your spirit or
because you just randomlyreminisced on it.
But at the end of the day,whenever hard times calamities,
you know what I'm saying?
Uh, the world wields wheneverthey spend into your life and is
literally something that you'venever dealt with before.
A lot of times what we tend todo, we tend to deal with it.
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And then the next day shove itall the way down.
We're thinking about shovingthings all the way down is that
eventually they will have to mysurface.
So whenever they resurface, youhave to make sure that, you have
to identify these things forwhat they are.
You're not just feeling thistype of way, because always
randomly coming up.
Let me just change it.
Let me do something to get mymind off.
No.
Deal with that.
So in the future, whenever itcomes back, you're not having to
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go to war with yourself to say,what can I do to get my mind off
of this?
Instead you actually be able togo ahead and feel good.
It will refresh knowing that youdealt with this in your brain.
I totally believe that becauseit has a lot to do with
relationships, whether you'rebuilding a relationship, a
normal person, a personalrelationship.
Or whether you're billing aromantic relationship, A lot of
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times.
Childhood trauma.
If it's not healed, if it's notaddressed, if it's not talked
about, and it's just layingdormant, as you spoke about in
someone's brain and we'llproject.
Into your relationships, right?
So I often hear men and womensometimes talk about, every
relationship ends up like thisbecause they're not realizing
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that they're actually buildingtrauma bonds.
And not actually building arelationship where.
Two people are either workingtowards healing together or
healed and come together.
and so they start projectingthat trauma, And it becomes a,
cycle where every relationshipthey get into.
The same thing happened in thatrelationship.
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The same thing happened in thatgroup.
And the common nominator is youhaven't worked on this part of
yourself that needs to behealed.
right.
And so when you are talkingabout that in communities with
people of color, the cyclecontinues, it's a generational
thing, right?
Um, if your mom was abused oryour, or if your father was an
alcoholic, or if you wereassaulted in some type of way,
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you're carrying that.
Don't heal from that.
And then in your mind, like yousaid earlier, It's still there.
Of seats.
So what is your view on healingand then entering and starting a
relationship?
I believe that once again, youneed to heal before going into a
relationship.
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And a lot of times, if you'reequally yoked with someone it's
not just about being 100% healedsometime, you know, cause a lot
of times you'll be 80% here andsewing, gnosis 50% here and that
can either have two mainresults.
One, the first, the first resultis a positive result.
The first is, you're elevated sohigh and you know, they're low,
they're a little bit lower.
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So you're, you're coming down tobring them up to where you are
and not a child guys on the samelevel.
Y'all.
I can't elevate from there.
The worst.
So part would be a stepping intomore of a manipulative state
knowing that, okay, this personis, uh, you know, they're
vibrating on a lower frequencyright now.
They're not really at where theycould be as far as mentally
going.
So you being there, you almosttry to take advantage of it.
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you know, that person hascertain things that are sorry,
and those are the things thatyou really want to stay away
from, especially if you can,process yourself consciously
doing it because you don't wantto take advantage of anyone.
You know, we believe that thingsthat we do come back to us.
So if you think that takingadvantage.
Outage of someone and you'regoing to be able to just do a
whole bunch of, for lack of abetter word dirt, and it's not
going to come back to you andthat's just going to happen.
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Then you're sadly mistakenbecause of the things that you
do, they tend to come back toyou.
If you notice on is maybe at alower emotional state of
vibrating and lowered, andthey're sad, and you guys are
finding yourselves in arelationship, then go out of
your way to help them elevate towhere you are, a body, your way
to do that, because that is thebest way to go ahead and elevate
in a relationship.
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You just said you can be healedat about 80%.
You was still based on one thatmight be healed or about 50%,
but would you have to know thatthis person is actually working
on their trauma?
Before you enter that.
Cause you're a young man.
How old are you?
I'm 17, 17 years old.
So you're a 17 year old, right?
You're just now starting life.
Really?
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When you think about it, so yourrelationships that you have now
may not be the relationship thatyou have.
If you decide to go to college,you're going to meet.
More people and you are aladies, man.
So, you know, When you go intoyour adulthood, knowing these
things, cause you're alreadyextremely knowledgeable.
When you start actively dating,or if you are actively dating,
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are you open to have theseconversations?
You have to be, especially ifyou want to be in a serious
relationship.
Now, at least everyone, asyou're a young being 16, 17, 18,
even going into 19, even goinginto your early twenties, a lot
of the relationships that youget in this.
Let's keep it a book, guys.
It's not going to last, I mean,let's keep it a hundred, but
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what you doing to realize is.
because there was a possibility,I'm sure you guys have heard of
high school sweethearts, youjust find in my high school that
this is your person for life,that's like a very aware you.
Incident.
So with that being said, I feellike one of the biggest things
you can do for yourself being inthese relationships is learning.
Growing and elevating together,as long as you guys are
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together, even though that youare young and it is probably a
big possibility that you may notbe with this person in the
future.
your best bet is the facial guyshave vibrated.
So each other in this day andage, They don't, why not make
the most of it.
And when our time is up, ourtime is up and, you know, I love
you.
I thank you for be here with me,but I feel like since you're,
since we're here right now,let's make the most out of this
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situation.
Like living in the moment.
Living in the moment.
Because essentially you'resaying.
You may work out.
You may not enjoy the time thatyou are together.
The growth that you are togetherbecause.
Just like in mind, elevationhealth and wealth.
I values of a healthyrelationship.
W on that podcast, we discuss.
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The research that I did onfives, financial, intellectual,
physical, emotional, spiritual.
And once you realize, we may notbe growing in that same
direction.
You can say, look, it was agreat.
We had a great time.
It was a wonderful lesson inthis relationship.
I think it's time to grow andmove forward.
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Right.
We can't keep doing that.
All the time you can't keepdoing that, you know?
But I do think that's a verymuch.
Yeah, sure.
To think about relationshipsinstead of always just focusing
on my forever human.
My forever.
A person.
Yeah.
In the same sense, you'reworking on yourself to find your
person.
So when do you feel your bestself.
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I feel my best self.
Whenever I've known, I've done alot of work.
I think we can bring up my,entry and when of the hip-hop
emphas.
So for those of you that didn'tknow.
hip-hop and Fest is a annualcompetition.
And basically it's aroundcompensation about building up
financial literacy inside of ourcommunities and my, our
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communities, of course, I meanthe Hispanic, the Latino, the
black community things aredisorder.
People of color, even the rightcommunity.
Building up that financialliteracy.
So with that being said, I mademy entry.
into the hip-hop emphas.
I one to God be the glory, ofcourse, but, whenever I want, I
was actually able to go ahead.
I took a paid trip to Orlando,Florida, and I, while I was in
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Orlando, I had two days where Iperform one of my gospel songs,
uncontrolled.
The one I mentioned to you guysearlier, the second day I
performed the song that made mewhen the hip hop Fanfest and my
last day there, I actually wentto universal studios, but all
that second day, I justremember.
Being at the hotel.
And, I was just chilling.
There was of course a five starhotel, it was on the, uh, it was
the B resort at universal.
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And whenever I was there, I justremember.
I was on the phone.
and I was just looking up atseven I'm like, man, this is
like a, I call it a energeticdisperse because you guys have
to look at it.
It's one thing to make your workand your pleasure.
But whenever you are able to.
Go ahead and incorporate yourpassion into that.
And I was like, okay, not onlyam I getting paid?
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Not only am I doing my passion,but now I'm able to relax and
enjoy myself as well.
I think that's when I feel mybest self, whenever I have to
actually put in a lot of work, Iknow I've been working and
finally the work pays off.
Don't forget guys.
Our work definitely pays off.
Yes.
And there's a thing called flowwhen you're in alone.
That means you're doingsomething that you love to do,
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That's something that youdesire.
That's your passion.
You make put 10 to 12 hours intoit and it doesn't even feel like
it because you're doingsomething.
And then, like you said, it's alot of hard work.
And then it pays off.
Your shirt says desire isenergy.
I like that.
Let's get into desires, energyvery quickly.
So of course, God, if you didn'tknow, I'm actually one of the
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COO the chief operating officerat a clothing line in Houston
called.
Desire is energy.
Now I'm going to go ahead andexplain to you guys what
actually desires energy is.
desire is energy is actually.
The closing line based out ofHouston.
what our motto is is once youget the desire to do something,
you have to go ahead and getthat energy to do it and get it
done.
Now what this is, guys isactually a mindset.
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Once you adapt this mindset andyou understand, it's not just
about waiting, it's just about.
You know, the Bible says faithwithout works is dead.
It's not just about havingfaith.
You have to know that youactually have to step out on
faith, make this happen, andactually do your best to go
ahead and try to come back withsomething that is, of substance
and of value.
So what we say is guys, we havea website is
www.desireisenergy.com.
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If you guys want him to go getsome merge, but I'm on the back
of our shirts.
Because earlier we were talkingabout how it's a mindset and
once you adapt that you'll befinancially free.
You would be able to financiallysustain yourself, but listen
guy.
No matter how much money youhave, if you don't have the
knowledge or the wisdom to bringthose together, then you're not
going to be, economically.
Financially experience.
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Mostly, you're not going to besuccessful in that aspects on
the back of our shirts, aportion of them that we call
them the hard chains he designson all the back of them.
They say Psalm 37 and 40, whichis, if you delight yourself in
the Lord, he'll give you thedesires of your heart.
And it's basically telling youguys, you have to censor all of
your, once.
You have to send to them and,unconditional love, peace,
gratitude, tranquility.
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Whenever you put these as your,as your team values in life and
your morals, then everythingthat you do, everything that
comes from your mouth, all ofyour actions will be in.
Negative of them.
And like we said earlier, whatwe believe is what you put out,
comes back to you.
So if that's the only thingyou're putting out, that's the
only thing you have and they'regoing to receive, desire is
energy.
And once again, You can feel theenergy.
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it's just here.
Uh, it has the love, the energyof love, the energy is
motivation.
The energy is elevation is allhere.
so you have been.
Been speaking to the championstoday and I'm sure that we all
learned a lot.
Is there anything else that I'mforgetting about, what else
would you like to discuss?
I would just say stay motivatedand whatever you think or know
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that your calling is, a lot oftimes we put in a lot of work
and the things that we thinkjust because you're not
immediately seeing the resultsthat your work was done in vain
or your work has no.
value to it, but I want you toknow that anything that you're
putting 100% into, you're goingto get 100% out.
You just have to remain rootedand grounded in love.
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Unconditional love at thattranquility, being safe,
gratitude, you have to begrateful for what you have.
So God, the creator can give youmore and that's basically it.
Women just stay in positivestamp.
Lift is damn motivated knowingthat you have to go out and get
it and come back with it.
Yeah.
I love that.
Now I'm an educator.
And I love and enjoy pouringinto my students.
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Now that you've given advice toour young audience, what advice
would you give to an adult?
that works with, or that mayhave children.
Or that may have nieces andnephews.
What.
Advise what you give.
An adult.
To help them pour into.
the younger generation.
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Okay.
Well, my Alliance is beingopen-minded and nine judgment.
So I'm going to go ahead andshout out miseries and Ms.
Vernon.
Because they have actuallypoured into me a lot.
When you use the phrase pourinto that's basically going into
its own spirit and actuallygoing out of your way to build
them up.
And, in his last a month ofschool, I want to say, Ms.
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Vernon, of course I had her lastyear, but Ms.
Rodriguez has also just talk tome a lot about my life and also
my love life, my financial life,my physical life, my spiritual
life, like things are disorderedmy financial life.
And just making sure that I'mbuilt up to know right from
wrong and giving me the.
The discernment to know rightfrom wrong to choose to do.
Right.
So my advice to them would bejust have an open heart, have an
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open mind, and just don't bejudgmental because a lot of
these mistakes that we're makingas younger people, or as your
child, as your student, as yourniece, as your nephew are a lot
of these mistakes.
going, growing up in life, youprobably make them too.
And you probably know like,okay, well don't, don't go.
And there's the ration.
Cause you may bump your head.
You know, that's the best thing.
Whenever you're in the duration,you're going somewhere where you
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may, physically harm yourself ormake a mistake that, you can't
come back from and you havesomeone to tell you Hello, don't
do that because that's going tolead to that.
How about you going in?
If the ration you do this, or wecan lead to this.
So it's all about using thatknowledge and wisdom that you
already have from your years ofexperience to help the younger
generation.
Yes.
Ma'am.
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Yeah.
And I like to use that in myprofession as an educator, too.
Not only pour into my students.
But also pull out what theirtalents are.
Whenever we do entrepreneurship,I say.
What was your dream beforesomeone stole it from you?
Because a lot of times adultswill tell you, oh, you can't do
that.
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You can't do that.
And so then that child starts tobelieve they can't do it and
they give up on that dream.
So when I try to get my studentsto tap into who they really want
to be, I have to bring them backto their childhood dream because
somebody might have some adult.
May have not intentionally stolethat dream and that goal from
them.
I like to bring it back andremind them that yes, you can do
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that.
You still have the opportunityto do that.
I like to also tap into thecreative side of students, which
is, you know what I think whatkind of drew us together is I
enjoy your, what.
What you talk about the messageswe have to share also enjoy your
creativity.
He also won a.
A poetry contest.
Air at the school.
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Do you have that piece?
I did not have.
I think I have the videos on.
I'm worth on my find that Andshe did, they had the video, but
I wanted to go back to what youjust said.
Uh, still in the dream.
So.
And share a story with you guys.
Whenever I was in, I want to sayyes, it was second grade.
I was in second grade and Idon't know when I was in second
grade, I just had it passionateto my spirit.
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I just want it to be the Senatorlike Senator, I don't want to be
the Senator.
So one day I had his teacher,his name was Mr.
Howcome and.
he told me I was talking to himand I was, he was telling me
about, I, what do you want to dowith your life things or the
story I was telling him how Ididn't really, at the time, of
course, I'm a second grade.
What second grader likes towrite?
I told him, I was like, man, Idon't really like it.
I didn't like that.
And he was like, Well, it.
You want to be the Senator oryou probably won't be a good
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Senator because they have to doa lot of writing for the
president and for the state andall of this.
And he said, well, maybe, maybeyou just want to be a retailer.
They don't have to do a lot ofwriting.
And at the time I just took thatand my spirit like, oh, I just
received that.
Like, okay, I don't gotta do alot of writing.
Let me be a retailer.
So I went back home to my momand I told her that she was
like, well, uh, CJ, you have tounderstand that a retailer could
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be, just a person at I'm runninga convenience store, things of
the sort.
And she explained to me that youcan't let people.
verbally.
Talk you out of your dreams, youhave to know that, you know what
I'm saying?
This is something that'sassigned my spirit because it's
something that I really want todo.
So this is my message toeverybody.
if you got a dream, he chaseyour dream.
Don't let that stop.
You don't let words demotivate.
You don't let nothing stop youfrom being your best version of
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yourself.
I am glad that you mentionedthat because that's the value of
having a parent.
That believes in you as well,right?
Because you could have went homeand said, my teacher said that
and your mom could have said.
You know?
Yeah.
Right.
Because as a parent, because wealso want to speak to parents
because there may be a parentright now, they're struggling
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with it.
With their child that is notdoing or going the right
direction.
You have to remind that child.
And they can still be whateverthey want to be.
That you can still follow yourdreams.
So you've had a lot of positive.
Adults in your life.
And I have been able to keep yougoing and keep you.
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Uh, stay up on your goals andyour dreams, and that's a
blessing.
Nationally and in my community,we know.
That's all of us.
Didn't have those adults.
we didn't have those teachersthat were open.
And then the teacher in secondgrade, he's talking to second
graders, but you remember that.
And that's the thing.
I think sometimes the.
No think, oh, they're young.
They're not going to know.
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We remember those things.
And that becomes our identity.
If it's not corrected.
Then God goes with immediatelycorrected.
Yes, Mike had it not beencorrected, that would have been
your mindset.
So as he's speaking to adults,He's saying.
Watch how important to children?
Speak that positive into them.
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Speak their dreams and to them.
And help them.
And be open-minded you said, andnon-gender.
Mexico is as a young man, youknow, you make some mistakes.
You'd be like, whoa, that Ireally made that my state, you
did.
I need to talk to somebodythat's open-minded and I go,
judge.
And I'm going to judge you Ortell you the lesson.
Yeah.
'cause I like to do that.
I like to say this is thelesson.
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You did it.
You make a mistake.
Okay.
We can go along, but what'd youlearn from it?
You gotta learn.
All right.
So I address all of my listenersas champions because we are all
champions.
What are three things?
What are the three mindsetbeliefs that make you a
champion?
CJ.
Three mindset.
Beliefs that make me a championis I know that I can never stop
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going.
I came too far to quit.
Secondly, I know that I have tohave a good connection with the
creator.
You have to pray.
If you're not religious, youdon't, you don't have, they
don't have to be.
You matter of face, if you'renot religious.
And matter of fact, just goahead and make sure you don't
well on the days that you wantit to prosper, whether that's
through writing them down,whether that's through praying
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rather than just repeating themin your head, doing the three,
six lines I heard of that too,about a Tesla, you know,
wherever you feel, there's goingto be working for you to produce
it for you, do your thing, butgo out your way.
And my last thing is stayingpositive.
You have this eight pound littleguys.
There are so many negativethings.
When you try to call yourselfgoing on a road to elevation and
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unity in the community and tryand live.
Differentiate right from wrongand choose to do right.
There are a lot of things thatwill come up against you, but no
matter what those things are, ifyou stay positive, you stay
uplifted.
I promise you will be okay.
All right.
And you can find all of rarewhen I see Jay's music on
YouTube.
Just type in brand one, a C J DR E.
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A D w I N N a C J and H onInstagram.
It is Brant when a underscore.
Fav same.
Okay.
On Instagram.
It is grant when an underscoresay that's B R E a D w I N N a.
Underscore S a B E E.
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And what did you say the acronymfor that is saved soon?
All beings, the WSI, it willevolve.
So it's basically just aboutthinking that every day that you
go and live life, yourinvolvement.
So.
I want to say.
Okay now.
I honestly believe that in thefuture.
he will be a music producer.
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music maker, all of his songswill be, and I'm manifesting
this for you.
all of his songs will be going,worldwide because that's, just
who he is.
And you have to know this youngman to understand this young man
he is a leader on this campus.
and not everybody receives that.
but he is a leader and he shineshere.
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So desire is energy.
You can go to the website,www.desireisenergy.com and
purchase your shirt.
On the back of that shirt hasPsalms 37, 4.
So that is great I think, Ithink we've done.
I think we've done a duty.
Y'all stay positive out here.
I'll end at this time.
You keep going down the road toelevation..
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communities, and listen to abreadwinner CJ's music on
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and pretty soon he will havemore music on apple music.
There is a song out there, buthe wrote it when he, before.
It's not 15, but I still wantedto throw that out there.
So he is on apple music as well.
So you guys next self-careSunday.
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Enjoy the lyrics to the song,uncontrolled written by
breadwinner, CJ, his message andgrowth is admirable.
Listen and listen.
Well, champions.
Let's say control of.
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