July 25, 2025 • 31 mins
What if the thing you're most afraid of isn’t actually the problem—but the story you’re telling yourself about it is?
In this episode, I sit down with transformation coach Lisa Andria to talk about what happens in midlife when we’re craving change but feel stuck in fear, doubt, or the belief that we might mess everything up. Lisa shares her story of leaving the corporate world, healing from burnout, and building a life that aligns with her purpose—and she gives us the tools to do the same.
We talk about limiting beliefs, the mental blocks that keep us from moving forward, and why midlife is the perfect time to break free from the patterns that no longer serve us.
BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU’LL DISCOVER:
✔ What limiting beliefs are and how they secretly shape your decisions
✔ How to recognize the emotional blocks holding you back in midlife
✔ A simple phrase (“plug the hose!”) that can interrupt negative thought spirals
🎯 OMG Moment: What if trusting yourself makes all the difference?
Take Action
The next time fear or doubt creeps in, pause and notice the story you're telling yourself. Then ask: “Is this actually true?” Shift the narrative and remind yourself you can always begin again—with trust, not perfection.
Connect with Lisa online at www.ladieswholeap.com.
Why This Episode Matters
Midlife isn’t a dead end—it’s a doorway. But stepping through that door requires courage, curiosity, and the willingness to let go of beliefs that no longer serve you. If you’ve been feeling stuck or wondering “what’s next?”—this episode is your starting point.
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Cheryl Fischer (00:01):
One of the reasons that I wanted this
podcast to focus on midlife isbecause there is so's change
happening with members of yourfamily parents, kids, maybe even
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spouse there's change happeningwith your career, or you're
planning for that change.
There's change happening withyour body.
There's just it's kind ofcoming from everywhere, and so
what happens is oftentimesthere's a lot of stuff going on
in our heads about that changeand our brains want to keep us
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safe.
So a lot of times this stuff isnegative, it's harsh, it's
limiting Not all the time, but alot of times, and so I am
excited that this episode isgoing to lead us down the path
of hey, maybe you can transformand maybe you can do more than
you think.
So let's talk about it.
Welcome to Mind your Midlife,your go-to resource for
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confidence and success, onethought at a time.
Unlike most advice out there,we believe that simply telling
you to believe in yourself orchange your habits isn't enough
to wake up excited about life orfeel truly confident in your
body.
Each week, you'll gainactionable strategies and oh my
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goodness powerful insights tostop feeling stuck and start
loving your midlife.
This is the Mind your MidlifePodcast.
And start loving your midlife.
This is the Mind your Midlifepodcast.
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I'm not sure you can listen to apodcast about mindset and not
hear something about limitingbeliefs, and maybe you've heard
about limiting beliefs as thethoughts that run around in our
heads when we're frustratedabout something.
Maybe you've heard that a lotof times, these limiting beliefs
are formed before we even reachthe age of seven, which,
goodness, is crazy to thinkabout, isn't it?
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Maybe you have just learnedthat pausing which is what I
work with my clients on andrecognizing the emotion you're
feeling now and then listeningto whatever's in your head,
creating that emotion, is apowerful thing.
Unfortunately, a lot of times,there's stuff going on inside
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our heads that keep us frommaking some pretty powerful
changes that we could make inour lives at any point, at any
point, and so I'm excited totalk to Lisa Andrea today, who
is a transformation coach.
She works with women, helpingthem go from stuck, scared, not
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sure what to do, to confident,to moving on, to their new
challenge or their new passion,and you're going to hear a
little bit of her story.
She also has overcome breastcancer and she's the host of the
Ladies who Leap podcast,sharing courageous stories about
how people get inspired to leapinto a life they love, so you
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definitely need to check thatout.
The link will be in the shownotes, so I think you're going
to love this conversation.
Welcome, lisa.
Thanks for joining me, thankyou for having me.
Lisa Andria (03:35):
I'm very excited.
It's always fun talking to you.
Cheryl Fischer (03:39):
Yes, I agree, and if you're listening right
now, you may or may not alreadyknow that I have been on Lisa's
podcast as well, so we just keepdoing this over and over.
So let's start with kind of alittle bit of your story,
because you are someone whocoaches women on transformation.
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So how did you end up doingthis?
Lisa Andria (04:02):
How did you end up doing this?
Well, I was at the time that Istarted doing this in 2019.
I had just retired for thefirst time after 33 years.
Was it 30?
No more than that.
It was after about 38 years inthe telecom industry.
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So I was in corporate America.
I had worked my way up to beingan account manager for very
large accounts and helping themdesign and create and selling
them the networks that connectedall of their data, and in some
of that period, I actuallyworked with wireless carriers
connecting and creating their.
That was fun.
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When wireless and wirelessphones were new, I was part of
that whole renaissance, I guess,with phones being on
everybody's pocket andeverything.
In fact, there was a period, Ihave to say, when people we
realized that they were going tostart making the data networks
able to send pictures on yourphones and all of us were like
who would need that?
Cheryl Fischer (05:04):
I know the things we've said.
Lisa Andria (05:07):
It's good that we weren't the visionaries in there
, because we couldn't imaginewhy would people want to send it
and have pictures on theirphones?
Okay so, and I retired fromthere and then after 33 years,
and then spent another severalyears working in a couple
different companies and at somepoint I literally left the last
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job crying, and I was in myearly 50s and I said this is
ridiculous.
And I realized how stressed Iwas and how I was not doing what
my initial calling was, what Iwas meant to do in this life.
So I told my financial advisorfind me money and I need to take
some time off and I need toreinvent myself.
And that's exactly what I did.
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And through that period of thatsix months, which was really
still on the precipice of thebeginning of my own
transformation, I said I want tohelp other women do the same
thing, so let me write about it,let me figure this out and
journal my journey or writeabout my journey or blog about
it.
I didn't realize what else wasavailable at that time, and then
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I could help others.
Well, then I was talking tosomeone and they said well,
you've been a mentor, you'vehelped your friends, why don't
you do life coaching?
And I said what the heck isthat.
I had no idea what it was.
I found out throughinterviewing some friends.
I actually started what theydidn't call it a podcast at the
time.
I was just interviewing thembecause I always wanted and
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everything about them and how.
I didn't realize at that moment.
But storytelling and hearingother people's stories is what
motivates and inspires us.
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Yeah, after the six months but Idowngraded not degraded
downgraded myself to more of asupport role to help with my own
emotional issues.
With that.
You know, having sales, it'svery, very stressful and so I
took away some of that stressand it really helped was a lot
less money, so that was a littlebit I get used to, but my
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emotional well-being was beingserved better.
And I stayed another four yearsand then finally fully retired
in December of 2022 and startedfull-time doing my coaching work
.
And that's where Ladies whoLeap came from and the
Transformation Coach part camefrom.
I reinvented even my owncoaching at that time, because
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you can always shift andreinvent yourself.
Cheryl Fischer (07:45):
Yeah, oh my goodness and I have reinvented
even my own coaching at thattime because you can always
shift and reinvent yourself.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, and Ihave reinvented myself many
times, as you know.
So, yes, you can alwaysreinvent yourself and there's
not ever a time that it's wrongto do that because you messed up
or whatever all the stuff wetell ourselves.
You know Something that stuckout to me when you were telling
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us?
That is that you, right away,even in those first six months,
were already thinking about howcan I share this with other
people?
I think that's very interestingbecause I think sometimes when
we're going through something,we're kind of folded in on
ourselves trying to figure itout, which is completely valid,
but it's interesting that youwere already thinking how can I
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help?
Lisa Andria (08:27):
Well, you know, I went many years earlier.
My mom went through quite a fewyears of three different kinds
of cancer and at that time.
It was just like this websitething and it was a blog, and I
put it together so that I couldshare with the rest of the
country, because she had friendsand family all over the place
all about her journey.
This is what's happening now.
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This is what the family's doing.
This is how she's feeling, andmy writing actually was helpful.
I got a lot of friends thatstarted reading it.
That didn't even know my mom,but they felt that just my
writing about that journeyhelped them in some way and I
remembered that.
So when I came to the pointwhere I knew I was going through
a whole nother, journey it wasdifferent than my mom's journey,
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but that I had something toshare about that.
I thought I want to help otherpeople through what I'm
experiencing.
So that's where that came from.
That was where it was birthedfrom.
Cheryl Fischer (09:20):
Yeah, I love that.
It's powerful because you areabsolutely right and I've
learned this through podcastingwe really resonate with other
people's stories and we hearthings out of that that make a
difference for us, and maybe thestories just hold our attention
more than someone just kind oftelling us what to do.
Maybe that's part of it, too.
Lisa Andria (09:41):
Well, yeah, and when you hear someone say I went
through this journey, this iswhat I learned from my journey,
you're getting some insight andalso some inspiration and
courage from somebody else goingthrough the same thing, because
most of us go through,especially women.
We go through reinventingourselves, rediscovering
ourselves right, transformingourselves, finding what is going
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to make our life much morefulfilling, how to love
ourselves more all of thosethings.
It's a universal language forwomen, I believe, and so when
you can share other women'sstories or your own story to
help others, it to me that's,that's the whole reason to do
this.
Cheryl Fischer (10:24):
I agree 100%.
So let's dive into this alittle bit more deeply.
And I think the interestingthing about midlife and a guest
asked me recently well, how doyou define midlife, I don't know
like mid 40s to mid 60s?
I don't know.
I'm not the official definer ofmidlife, but somewhere around
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that period of time, we, becausethere are so many changes
happening, no matter what yourlife looks like, whether you
have kids, whether you have aspouse, whether you have a job,
whether you live here, there oranywhere, there are so many
changes happening in our livesand our bodies.
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At that point, I think thatclearly it must be.
The vast majority of us end upthinking about this in some way,
like now I have more time, ornow I still want to feel good,
and I'm not sure I feel good, orwhatever it is.
And one thing we hit on when westart rethinking things is
limiting beliefs.
So tell us a little bit moreabout limiting beliefs and then
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also, maybe let's walk down thepath of what we can do about
this.
Lisa Andria (11:42):
So I do want to say that limiting beliefs happen
throughout your entire lifetime.
Yeah, it is when you become orwant to transform yourself that
they become more.
You become more aware of them,you know right.
So it's really the negativeself talk thoughts that are
either conscious or many of themare even unconscious, and
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they're caused by events in yourpast, whether it be before
you're seven years old, or it'spassed down through generations,
and your beliefs about yourselfare affected by these events or
what people have said to you,and I don't think you even
realize where they necessarilycame from, but they continually.
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It's almost like this track thatkeeps going on and over and
over in your head and when youdecide, okay, I want to live my
life for myself, I want tochange the direction or the
trajectory of my life, I ameither empty nesting, or I'm
retiring, or I'm changing mycareer because I'm very unhappy
and burnt out from my previouscareer.
It's usually you're rightaround that 40, 40 plus that we
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start thinking about ourselvesmore than others, and it's not
selfish to do that.
I want to say that right offthe bat.
Right, it is something that allwomen should do, because as you
do that for yourself.
You're actually giving theplaybook and improving the
relationship with your children,with your husband or partner or
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your friends or your parents.
You're giving them the playbookto say okay, I am listening to
myself and I want to change thatnegative self-talk, that
negative self-talk.
I have a thing that I made upand it just came out, I don't
know several months ago, where,when you become conscious of it,
because the first thing youhave to do is know when it's
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happening and you hear yourselfsaying I'm not pretty enough,
I'm not worthy enough, I can'tdo this.
All those bad words, right, thenegative don't not.
No, try all those types ofwords that you out loud or in
your head and I do it even formyself say plug the hose,
because it's literally an openhose spewing it out, and it's a
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lot of times it's really hard tostop it.
It just keeps coming out and itcan lead to you getting that.
Self-doubt, leads to impostersyndrome, it leads to depression
sometimes and just holing up inyour house because you feel
like you really have nothing tolive for and who cares about
your dreams.
You're never going toaccomplish anything.
You know you've got thesethoughts.
They're just so negative inyour head.
And if you start recognizingthem and becoming aware of them
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and saying plug the hose andthen take that negative thought
and switch it up on itscompletely on its side to make
it positive, write down thepositive and start saying that
to yourself consciously everyday, make it a positive
affirmation, it's one of thesteps that can at least let you
know when it's happening.
Cheryl Fischer (14:39):
Yeah, I love plug the hose.
I love it makes me laugh alittle bit, which is easier to
remember too.
Yeah, because one of the thingsthat I mean you're right, there
are times when we can justpause for a minute and realize
that in our head is going youalways this, or you never that,
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or blah, blah.
Be an example we keep sort ofgetting a certain way in a
project or a job and then nevergetting past that and we don't
understand why, and sometimesthey're very sneaky.
Lisa Andria (15:20):
You know, I have to say, doing this alone is
difficult.
I don't want anyone to thinkthat there's an easy answer to
this.
It is in your head, it is inyour unconscious mind and your
unconscious mind has a primedirective.
It keeps all of your organsmoving and things like that.
But it takes the easiest pathand if you have put in your head
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that this is a belief that youhave, this limiting belief is
something that you have, you'regoing to, it's going to continue
to perpetuate that because it'sthe easy path To break that
limiting belief.
Break it up and remove it andrelease it is difficult, and so
your unconscious mind doesn'tnecessarily want to release it
and let it go because itbelieves it's serving you.
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You keep saying that toyourself.
It believes that that's whatyou want in your life, so it's
going to continue to perpetrateit.
So that's when getting help,and either it is by reading the
self-help books about this, byactually getting a coach who has
the tools.
In my case, I use a breakthroughsession with mental and
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emotional release.
It's an NLP neuro-linguisticprogramming.
It's an actual technique usedto go into your unconscious mind
and release those events rightup until now, and so it releases
the negative emotions that areassociated with it and the
limiting beliefs.
So there is ways to do it.
It is not easy to do it byyourself.
I'm going to be and I hate tosay that because I know that not
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everybody can have a coach butread books about it, Make it,
make yourself understand.
And one other thing if you getto a point, just like you said,
where you're trying to dosomething and you keep getting
stuck and you know it's in yourown head, ask yourself so really
, what really could go wrong ifI try and do this, I completely
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don't even think about what cango wrong, what realistically
could happen, because I havethis quote that I wrote it's
confidence is knowing thatnothing you do will ruin
everything, because that's whateverybody feels it's all going
to ruin everything.
But doing nothing will ruin yourconfidence ruin everything, but
doing nothing will ruin yourconfidence.
Cheryl Fischer (17:31):
Yes, I mean immediately.
It feels calming.
Nothing we can do will ruineverything.
And these all or nothing words,I think, are very dangerous.
We want to avoid them if wepossibly can, because, if I may
use an all or nothing word,they're almost never true.
Lisa Andria (17:48):
Exactly.
They're based on things thataren't really realistic and you
keep thinking well, I can't trythat because I don't know what
I'm doing.
Well, of course you don't knowwhat you're doing, it's
something new.
And, yes, allow yourself to beuncomfortable to challenge
yourself to do something new.
It's going to be uncomfortable,but guess what?
When you're uncomfortable aboutsomething, it means you're
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growing.
And, boy, every successfulperson you can ask any
successful person, how manytimes did you fail?
I failed a lot, and everysingle time they failed, they
took it as a lesson learned.
Okay, I'm not going to do itthis way anymore.
I'm going to shift it.
I'm going to do it a differentway so that I can keep getting
to the point where now I don'tfail and thinking of yourself as
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having the ability to not failand I hate using the word not,
but to succeed.
If you believe that you cansucceed in this, really saying I
can do this, I know I can dothis, that will help you to take
that first step and to overcomebeing uncomfortable.
I mean, when you spoke in frontof people for the first time,
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most people were very, veryscared and so you're shaking,
but you did it and you gotcompliments.
I know that everybody that'slistening did that.
When you finally got thecourage to do it, you got the
compliments, even though Iremember when I first sang for
the first time and somebody cameup to me afterwards and they
said, oh, you sing really well.
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I turned to look behind my Isaid, oh, who are they talking
to?
No, they were talking to me,and so that's what the limiting
beliefs are all about, right,you don't think that you can't
even accept someone giving you acompliment because you have
that limiting belief that'sblocking it.
Cheryl Fischer (19:32):
Yeah, one of my favorite sayings to keep in mind
related to this is that I canfigure it out, I'll figure it
out, somehow I'll figure it out,and to me that that helps too,
because we can figure it outsomehow like we can.
Okay, so I don't want to get ustoo off track, but I it occurs
to me that when you mentionedneuro linguistic program, or, if
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I could say it, neurolinguistic programming, that is
something that I think probablya lot of people have heard of
but have no idea what you'resaying and what it is.
So I don't know, is there aneasy way you could just kind of
explain a little bit?
Lisa Andria (20:12):
Yeah, so it is.
There's a lot to it andunderstanding that your
unconscious mind is actually thedriver in a lot of your
decision-making, behavior,beliefs, values, because it
processes 2 million bits persecond, whereas your conscious
mind processes 126 bits persecond.
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So that doesn't tell you a lot.
It's like, almost like I sayit's equated to the
supercomputer unconscious mindas opposed to the, and I may be
talking to well, this is midlife, so you understand the dial-up
as opposed to the dial-upcomputer.
It's making these decisions foryou.
It's information that's storedthat is not necessarily
conscious to you, and whatneuro-linguistic programming
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does is speaks to thatunconscious mind and what words
you say and what words you think, and how it affects how your
unconscious mind reacts and thebehaviors that you make.
So I mean a very simple way oflooking at it, because it's very
.
It can be very complex and thetraining is very intense but
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also gets to the point and theroot of your problem much more
quickly than I'm going to say,than therapy, and then speaking
about it for a long period oftime.
But it's almost like I meanit's in a way, when you talk to
someone and you say don't dothis, your unconscious mind
doesn't hear the word don't, ithears the do this.
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So in a way, let's say you havechildren and you tell them
don't do this.
They hear do this and they doit.
And you know it's happened.
It's happened a bunch of times.
So you have to change yourlinguistics.
That's where the linguisticspart of it, right Neuro,
neurobrain linguistics, whatyou're saying and thinking,
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programming.
So it's reprogramming yourunconscious mind to be able to
overcome all the limitingbeliefs and negative emotions
and negative behaviors that youhave, simply by talking to it in
a way that it understands.
Cheryl Fischer (22:15):
That's really fascinating.
I love all brain science, I'mjust fascinated.
Lisa Andria (22:21):
And I never realized how much I loved it
until I was trained in it and Iexperienced it in many ways and
found the tools and have themand I'm ever learning about it
even more every day.
I mean, you go through thetraining but you don't use
everything all the time and soeach time you use it on someone
that you know, this is likereframing.
Somebody says they have alimiting belief and you can
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change how they believe about itby reframing that particular
thought and belief by reframingthat particular thought and
belief.
Cheryl Fischer (23:01):
I think it's very interesting that some of us
have this story that people whoare more successful than us
don't have time for us or we arebothering them when we ask for
advice and I will say that Iread this somewhere and I wish I
remembered where, but I have noidea, and it has.
It has been true for me thatmost women and this is probably
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most people as well, but mostwomen who are more successful in
however we define that orwhatever we're going for are
happy to help because theyprobably had help and they want
to give back.
They want to pay it forward orback, whichever way.
That is so the majority, Ithink, are happy to do exactly
what you're describing.
Lisa Andria (23:43):
Definitely.
I mean, I see, and it took.
I'll be honest, you know, ittook me many years to ask for
any kind of help, even on apersonal basis, but I finally
realized that when I help others, I love it, it's a gift to me.
I really enjoy helping others.
So when you allow someone elseto help you, you're giving them
a gift Every.
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I mean.
I'll tell you there's.
I don't know what thepercentage would be if we were
to ask people, but I would saymost women, most people, want to
be able to lift someone else up.
If they don't, then that's aproblem and a limiting belief
that they have, and you may noteven want to have a conversation
with them.
So the ones that want to helpyou are the ones that are coming
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truly from their heart, have asense of compassion, and that's
who you want to communicate withand get your help from.
Cheryl Fischer (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I do a lot of women's networking
groups and that sort of thingtoo, and I think it's worthwhile
for anyone.
If you're listening, you know,just give it a look whether it's
Meetup or the Chamber ofCommerce or, you know, the
Mahjong group, whatever.
There's people out there forsure.
Lisa Andria (24:51):
Yeah, and I mean, don't think that, oh well, I'm
not anywhere that I want to be,so what would they find
interesting about me?
No, you are who you are.
You're a unique being.
You are where you are in lifeand, as long as you're in a
group, that's welcoming, and soyou, of course, will be able to
get that feeling as soon as youjoin or you get involved.
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Most of the time, those folkswant to help you raise you up.
They want to help raise you up.
They want to make you feel verywanted and calm and clear and a
part of a community.
It doesn't matter where you'reat.
It doesn't matter.
We've all been at the startingpoint.
Cheryl Fischer (25:33):
Yes, and I actually had a friend say to me
one time when I was thinkingabout being a coach, and I was
thinking about being a podcaster, and I was like, who am I to do
this?
And she said, well, you're inyour fifties, so clearly you've
been really successful in life.
And I was like, how have I beensuccessful in life?
And she said, getting to your50s, there's been a lot of
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success.
I'm sure, and it's true, that'strue for everybody.
Lisa Andria (25:58):
Yeah, See, I also wrote this down, I'm just
thinking about it.
Today, most of us focus on thenegative thoughts and the things
that we can't we feel we can'tdo, and we don't focus on the
things that and so as,especially women, we need to
focus on I can do this well andI can do that well and I have
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succeeded and I've accomplishedthis.
That's what we need to focus on,that that's what's important
for us to focus on and then,using maybe a gratitude journal
or just journaling about thegood things that happened to you
, reading them to remindyourself, writing down all the
accomplishments you've made inyour life, and reading it and
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really digesting it andbelieving it.
That's part of the journey andpart of transforming yourself.
Cheryl Fischer (26:48):
Yeah, I agree.
Before we get to the lastquestion, how, if somebody is
curious about what you'retalking about and what you do
and what you help people with,how can they find you and
connect with you?
Lisa Andria (26:59):
So I am ladieswholeap, that's L-E-A-P at
the end.
So, ladieswholeapcom, it's mywebsite.
You can get to my podcast.
You can get to all my socialmedia links.
You can understand what I do.
You can click the little buttonlet's connect and we can talk.
Cheryl Fischer (27:23):
That's really the best way to get ahold of me
and I'll have that in the shownotes.
So absolutely go check it outfor sure and definitely find
your, find, find, your, find her.
Who am I talking to right now?
If you're listening, definitelyfind her podcast ladies who
leave.
I love it.
Okay, so now I want to makesure that, after half an hour of
an amazing conversation, thatpeople can finish this episode
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and say, oh, let me just makesure to remember that one thing.
What do you think is kind ofthe OMG?
I have to take this away fromthis conversation.
Most important thing forsomebody to remember Trust
yourself.
Lisa Andria (27:57):
Trust your own instincts, your own empowerment,
your own skill set, your ownintelligence, trust yourself and
trust your higher power anduniverse, because I believe that
when you know your why, whatyou want to do, and why the
universe, your higher power,will give you your how, so trust
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in that it's a big deal.
Cheryl Fischer (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I love that, and I probably would
say that if someone asked me thequestion.
I just asked you.
So fantastic.
Well, lisa, thank you so muchfor joining us.
I know people are going to takeaway a lot from this.
Lisa Andria (28:35):
Wonderful.
I love being able to help otherwomen shine.
Cheryl Fischer (28:39):
I don't know if you noticed, but Lisa is not the
only guest who has said that.
Their OMG moment that we wantyou to remember is to trust
yourself, and whether you thinkabout it from the angle of
trusting your gut, trusting yourintuition, or just trusting,
once you make a decision, thatyou should follow through with
(29:01):
that decision because you madeit and you know what you want
and need, or whether you thinkabout it from a faith
perspective, trusting whatyou've been just kind of feeling
strongly about and reaching forTrust yourself.
I just love that as a wrap upmoment for us.
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Today.
Now, lisa and I sat down for anextra little conversation about
her dream method that she usesto help women who are trying to
figure out what's next.
How do I do it?
How do I figure it out?
How do I make that leap?
So you will love that.
If you're not already part ofthe Patreon community, go to
(29:42):
patreoncom.
Slash mind your midlife.
It's completely free.
All summer, you can participatein the monthly zoom call with
me, you can hear the extra bonusmaterial and interviews, and I
think you'll love it.
So I will see you over thereand make sure you've hit the
follow button on your favoritepodcast app, because next week
(30:04):
we are going to be talking aboutsomething that is such an issue
for so many of us.
You heard Lisa say trustyourself.
Why do we have such a problemwith that?
Let's talk about the comparisontrap Because, even if you don't
realize it, you and I we'recomparing ourselves to a lot of
(30:24):
people a lot of the time andwe're often seeing that we come
up short and that's not evenreally true.
So I'll see you then.
In the meantime, slow down,notice what's going on in your
head and what's going on aroundyou and let's create something
amazing.
Slow down, notice what's goingon in your head and what's going
on around you and let's createsomething amazing.
One of the reasons that I wanted this
podcast to focus on midlife isbecause there is so's change
happening with members of yourfamily parents, kids, maybe even
(00:29):
spouse there's change happeningwith your career, or you're
planning for that change.
There's change happening withyour body.
There's just it's kind ofcoming from everywhere, and so
what happens is oftentimesthere's a lot of stuff going on
in our heads about that changeand our brains want to keep us
(00:50):
safe.
So a lot of times this stuff isnegative, it's harsh, it's
limiting Not all the time, but alot of times, and so I am
excited that this episode isgoing to lead us down the path
of hey, maybe you can transformand maybe you can do more than
you think.
So let's talk about it.
Welcome to Mind your Midlife,your go-to resource for
(01:16):
confidence and success, onethought at a time.
Unlike most advice out there,we believe that simply telling
you to believe in yourself orchange your habits isn't enough
to wake up excited about life orfeel truly confident in your
body.
Each week, you'll gainactionable strategies and oh my
(01:36):
goodness powerful insights tostop feeling stuck and start
loving your midlife.
This is the Mind your MidlifePodcast.
And start loving your midlife.
This is the Mind your Midlifepodcast.
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I'm not sure you can listen to apodcast about mindset and not
hear something about limitingbeliefs, and maybe you've heard
about limiting beliefs as thethoughts that run around in our
heads when we're frustratedabout something.
Maybe you've heard that a lotof times, these limiting beliefs
are formed before we even reachthe age of seven, which,
goodness, is crazy to thinkabout, isn't it?
(02:19):
Maybe you have just learnedthat pausing which is what I
work with my clients on andrecognizing the emotion you're
feeling now and then listeningto whatever's in your head,
creating that emotion, is apowerful thing.
Unfortunately, a lot of times,there's stuff going on inside
(02:39):
our heads that keep us frommaking some pretty powerful
changes that we could make inour lives at any point, at any
point, and so I'm excited totalk to Lisa Andrea today, who
is a transformation coach.
She works with women, helpingthem go from stuck, scared, not
(03:02):
sure what to do, to confident,to moving on, to their new
challenge or their new passion,and you're going to hear a
little bit of her story.
She also has overcome breastcancer and she's the host of the
Ladies who Leap podcast,sharing courageous stories about
how people get inspired to leapinto a life they love, so you
(03:26):
definitely need to check thatout.
The link will be in the shownotes, so I think you're going
to love this conversation.
Welcome, lisa.
Thanks for joining me, thankyou for having me.
Lisa Andria (03:35):
I'm very excited.
It's always fun talking to you.
Cheryl Fischer (03:39):
Yes, I agree, and if you're listening right
now, you may or may not alreadyknow that I have been on Lisa's
podcast as well, so we just keepdoing this over and over.
So let's start with kind of alittle bit of your story,
because you are someone whocoaches women on transformation.
(03:59):
So how did you end up doingthis?
Lisa Andria (04:02):
How did you end up doing this?
Well, I was at the time that Istarted doing this in 2019.
I had just retired for thefirst time after 33 years.
Was it 30?
No more than that.
It was after about 38 years inthe telecom industry.
(04:22):
So I was in corporate America.
I had worked my way up to beingan account manager for very
large accounts and helping themdesign and create and selling
them the networks that connectedall of their data, and in some
of that period, I actuallyworked with wireless carriers
connecting and creating their.
That was fun.
(04:42):
When wireless and wirelessphones were new, I was part of
that whole renaissance, I guess,with phones being on
everybody's pocket andeverything.
In fact, there was a period, Ihave to say, when people we
realized that they were going tostart making the data networks
able to send pictures on yourphones and all of us were like
who would need that?
Cheryl Fischer (05:04):
I know the things we've said.
Lisa Andria (05:07):
It's good that we weren't the visionaries in there
, because we couldn't imaginewhy would people want to send it
and have pictures on theirphones?
Okay so, and I retired fromthere and then after 33 years,
and then spent another severalyears working in a couple
different companies and at somepoint I literally left the last
(05:27):
job crying, and I was in myearly 50s and I said this is
ridiculous.
And I realized how stressed Iwas and how I was not doing what
my initial calling was, what Iwas meant to do in this life.
So I told my financial advisorfind me money and I need to take
some time off and I need toreinvent myself.
And that's exactly what I did.
(05:49):
And through that period of thatsix months, which was really
still on the precipice of thebeginning of my own
transformation, I said I want tohelp other women do the same
thing, so let me write about it,let me figure this out and
journal my journey or writeabout my journey or blog about
it.
I didn't realize what else wasavailable at that time, and then
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I could help others.
Well, then I was talking tosomeone and they said well,
you've been a mentor, you'vehelped your friends, why don't
you do life coaching?
And I said what the heck isthat.
I had no idea what it was.
I found out throughinterviewing some friends.
I actually started what theydidn't call it a podcast at the
time.
I was just interviewing thembecause I always wanted and
(06:32):
everything about them and how.
I didn't realize at that moment.
But storytelling and hearingother people's stories is what
motivates and inspires us.
(06:59):
Yeah, after the six months but Idowngraded not degraded
downgraded myself to more of asupport role to help with my own
emotional issues.
With that.
You know, having sales, it'svery, very stressful and so I
took away some of that stressand it really helped was a lot
less money, so that was a littlebit I get used to, but my
(07:23):
emotional well-being was beingserved better.
And I stayed another four yearsand then finally fully retired
in December of 2022 and startedfull-time doing my coaching work
.
And that's where Ladies whoLeap came from and the
Transformation Coach part camefrom.
I reinvented even my owncoaching at that time, because
(07:43):
you can always shift andreinvent yourself.
Cheryl Fischer (07:45):
Yeah, oh my goodness and I have reinvented
even my own coaching at thattime because you can always
shift and reinvent yourself.
Yeah, oh, my goodness, and Ihave reinvented myself many
times, as you know.
So, yes, you can alwaysreinvent yourself and there's
not ever a time that it's wrongto do that because you messed up
or whatever all the stuff wetell ourselves.
You know Something that stuckout to me when you were telling
(08:05):
us?
That is that you, right away,even in those first six months,
were already thinking about howcan I share this with other
people?
I think that's very interestingbecause I think sometimes when
we're going through something,we're kind of folded in on
ourselves trying to figure itout, which is completely valid,
but it's interesting that youwere already thinking how can I
(08:26):
help?
Lisa Andria (08:27):
Well, you know, I went many years earlier.
My mom went through quite a fewyears of three different kinds
of cancer and at that time.
It was just like this websitething and it was a blog, and I
put it together so that I couldshare with the rest of the
country, because she had friendsand family all over the place
all about her journey.
This is what's happening now.
(08:48):
This is what the family's doing.
This is how she's feeling, andmy writing actually was helpful.
I got a lot of friends thatstarted reading it.
That didn't even know my mom,but they felt that just my
writing about that journeyhelped them in some way and I
remembered that.
So when I came to the pointwhere I knew I was going through
a whole nother, journey it wasdifferent than my mom's journey,
(09:10):
but that I had something toshare about that.
I thought I want to help otherpeople through what I'm
experiencing.
So that's where that came from.
That was where it was birthedfrom.
Cheryl Fischer (09:20):
Yeah, I love that.
It's powerful because you areabsolutely right and I've
learned this through podcastingwe really resonate with other
people's stories and we hearthings out of that that make a
difference for us, and maybe thestories just hold our attention
more than someone just kind oftelling us what to do.
Maybe that's part of it, too.
Lisa Andria (09:41):
Well, yeah, and when you hear someone say I went
through this journey, this iswhat I learned from my journey,
you're getting some insight andalso some inspiration and
courage from somebody else goingthrough the same thing, because
most of us go through,especially women.
We go through reinventingourselves, rediscovering
ourselves right, transformingourselves, finding what is going
(10:05):
to make our life much morefulfilling, how to love
ourselves more all of thosethings.
It's a universal language forwomen, I believe, and so when
you can share other women'sstories or your own story to
help others, it to me that's,that's the whole reason to do
this.
Cheryl Fischer (10:24):
I agree 100%.
So let's dive into this alittle bit more deeply.
And I think the interestingthing about midlife and a guest
asked me recently well, how doyou define midlife, I don't know
like mid 40s to mid 60s?
I don't know.
I'm not the official definer ofmidlife, but somewhere around
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that period of time, we, becausethere are so many changes
happening, no matter what yourlife looks like, whether you
have kids, whether you have aspouse, whether you have a job,
whether you live here, there oranywhere, there are so many
changes happening in our livesand our bodies.
(11:09):
At that point, I think thatclearly it must be.
The vast majority of us end upthinking about this in some way,
like now I have more time, ornow I still want to feel good,
and I'm not sure I feel good, orwhatever it is.
And one thing we hit on when westart rethinking things is
limiting beliefs.
So tell us a little bit moreabout limiting beliefs and then
(11:35):
also, maybe let's walk down thepath of what we can do about
this.
Lisa Andria (11:42):
So I do want to say that limiting beliefs happen
throughout your entire lifetime.
Yeah, it is when you become orwant to transform yourself that
they become more.
You become more aware of them,you know right.
So it's really the negativeself talk thoughts that are
either conscious or many of themare even unconscious, and
(12:05):
they're caused by events in yourpast, whether it be before
you're seven years old, or it'spassed down through generations,
and your beliefs about yourselfare affected by these events or
what people have said to you,and I don't think you even
realize where they necessarilycame from, but they continually.
(12:26):
It's almost like this track thatkeeps going on and over and
over in your head and when youdecide, okay, I want to live my
life for myself, I want tochange the direction or the
trajectory of my life, I ameither empty nesting, or I'm
retiring, or I'm changing mycareer because I'm very unhappy
and burnt out from my previouscareer.
It's usually you're rightaround that 40, 40 plus that we
(12:51):
start thinking about ourselvesmore than others, and it's not
selfish to do that.
I want to say that right offthe bat.
Right, it is something that allwomen should do, because as you
do that for yourself.
You're actually giving theplaybook and improving the
relationship with your children,with your husband or partner or
(13:12):
your friends or your parents.
You're giving them the playbookto say okay, I am listening to
myself and I want to change thatnegative self-talk, that
negative self-talk.
I have a thing that I made upand it just came out, I don't
know several months ago, where,when you become conscious of it,
because the first thing youhave to do is know when it's
(13:33):
happening and you hear yourselfsaying I'm not pretty enough,
I'm not worthy enough, I can'tdo this.
All those bad words, right, thenegative don't not.
No, try all those types ofwords that you out loud or in
your head and I do it even formyself say plug the hose,
because it's literally an openhose spewing it out, and it's a
(13:54):
lot of times it's really hard tostop it.
It just keeps coming out and itcan lead to you getting that.
Self-doubt, leads to impostersyndrome, it leads to depression
sometimes and just holing up inyour house because you feel
like you really have nothing tolive for and who cares about
your dreams.
You're never going toaccomplish anything.
You know you've got thesethoughts.
They're just so negative inyour head.
And if you start recognizingthem and becoming aware of them
(14:18):
and saying plug the hose andthen take that negative thought
and switch it up on itscompletely on its side to make
it positive, write down thepositive and start saying that
to yourself consciously everyday, make it a positive
affirmation, it's one of thesteps that can at least let you
know when it's happening.
Cheryl Fischer (14:39):
Yeah, I love plug the hose.
I love it makes me laugh alittle bit, which is easier to
remember too.
Yeah, because one of the thingsthat I mean you're right, there
are times when we can justpause for a minute and realize
that in our head is going youalways this, or you never that,
(14:59):
or blah, blah.
Be an example we keep sort ofgetting a certain way in a
project or a job and then nevergetting past that and we don't
understand why, and sometimesthey're very sneaky.
Lisa Andria (15:20):
You know, I have to say, doing this alone is
difficult.
I don't want anyone to thinkthat there's an easy answer to
this.
It is in your head, it is inyour unconscious mind and your
unconscious mind has a primedirective.
It keeps all of your organsmoving and things like that.
But it takes the easiest pathand if you have put in your head
(15:43):
that this is a belief that youhave, this limiting belief is
something that you have, you'regoing to, it's going to continue
to perpetuate that because it'sthe easy path To break that
limiting belief.
Break it up and remove it andrelease it is difficult, and so
your unconscious mind doesn'tnecessarily want to release it
and let it go because itbelieves it's serving you.
(16:03):
You keep saying that toyourself.
It believes that that's whatyou want in your life, so it's
going to continue to perpetrateit.
So that's when getting help,and either it is by reading the
self-help books about this, byactually getting a coach who has
the tools.
In my case, I use a breakthroughsession with mental and
(16:23):
emotional release.
It's an NLP neuro-linguisticprogramming.
It's an actual technique usedto go into your unconscious mind
and release those events rightup until now, and so it releases
the negative emotions that areassociated with it and the
limiting beliefs.
So there is ways to do it.
It is not easy to do it byyourself.
I'm going to be and I hate tosay that because I know that not
(16:48):
everybody can have a coach butread books about it, Make it,
make yourself understand.
And one other thing if you getto a point, just like you said,
where you're trying to dosomething and you keep getting
stuck and you know it's in yourown head, ask yourself so really
, what really could go wrong ifI try and do this, I completely
(17:11):
don't even think about what cango wrong, what realistically
could happen, because I havethis quote that I wrote it's
confidence is knowing thatnothing you do will ruin
everything, because that's whateverybody feels it's all going
to ruin everything.
But doing nothing will ruin yourconfidence ruin everything, but
doing nothing will ruin yourconfidence.
Cheryl Fischer (17:31):
Yes, I mean immediately.
It feels calming.
Nothing we can do will ruineverything.
And these all or nothing words,I think, are very dangerous.
We want to avoid them if wepossibly can, because, if I may
use an all or nothing word,they're almost never true.
Lisa Andria (17:48):
Exactly.
They're based on things thataren't really realistic and you
keep thinking well, I can't trythat because I don't know what
I'm doing.
Well, of course you don't knowwhat you're doing, it's
something new.
And, yes, allow yourself to beuncomfortable to challenge
yourself to do something new.
It's going to be uncomfortable,but guess what?
When you're uncomfortable aboutsomething, it means you're
(18:10):
growing.
And, boy, every successfulperson you can ask any
successful person, how manytimes did you fail?
I failed a lot, and everysingle time they failed, they
took it as a lesson learned.
Okay, I'm not going to do itthis way anymore.
I'm going to shift it.
I'm going to do it a differentway so that I can keep getting
to the point where now I don'tfail and thinking of yourself as
(18:33):
having the ability to not failand I hate using the word not,
but to succeed.
If you believe that you cansucceed in this, really saying I
can do this, I know I can dothis, that will help you to take
that first step and to overcomebeing uncomfortable.
I mean, when you spoke in frontof people for the first time,
(18:56):
most people were very, veryscared and so you're shaking,
but you did it and you gotcompliments.
I know that everybody that'slistening did that.
When you finally got thecourage to do it, you got the
compliments, even though Iremember when I first sang for
the first time and somebody cameup to me afterwards and they
said, oh, you sing really well.
(19:16):
I turned to look behind my Isaid, oh, who are they talking
to?
No, they were talking to me,and so that's what the limiting
beliefs are all about, right,you don't think that you can't
even accept someone giving you acompliment because you have
that limiting belief that'sblocking it.
Cheryl Fischer (19:32):
Yeah, one of my favorite sayings to keep in mind
related to this is that I canfigure it out, I'll figure it
out, somehow I'll figure it out,and to me that that helps too,
because we can figure it outsomehow like we can.
Okay, so I don't want to get ustoo off track, but I it occurs
to me that when you mentionedneuro linguistic program, or, if
(19:55):
I could say it, neurolinguistic programming, that is
something that I think probablya lot of people have heard of
but have no idea what you'resaying and what it is.
So I don't know, is there aneasy way you could just kind of
explain a little bit?
Lisa Andria (20:12):
Yeah, so it is.
There's a lot to it andunderstanding that your
unconscious mind is actually thedriver in a lot of your
decision-making, behavior,beliefs, values, because it
processes 2 million bits persecond, whereas your conscious
mind processes 126 bits persecond.
(20:35):
So that doesn't tell you a lot.
It's like, almost like I sayit's equated to the
supercomputer unconscious mindas opposed to the, and I may be
talking to well, this is midlife, so you understand the dial-up
as opposed to the dial-upcomputer.
It's making these decisions foryou.
It's information that's storedthat is not necessarily
conscious to you, and whatneuro-linguistic programming
(20:56):
does is speaks to thatunconscious mind and what words
you say and what words you think, and how it affects how your
unconscious mind reacts and thebehaviors that you make.
So I mean a very simple way oflooking at it, because it's very
.
It can be very complex and thetraining is very intense but
(21:18):
also gets to the point and theroot of your problem much more
quickly than I'm going to say,than therapy, and then speaking
about it for a long period oftime.
But it's almost like I meanit's in a way, when you talk to
someone and you say don't dothis, your unconscious mind
doesn't hear the word don't, ithears the do this.
(21:39):
So in a way, let's say you havechildren and you tell them
don't do this.
They hear do this and they doit.
And you know it's happened.
It's happened a bunch of times.
So you have to change yourlinguistics.
That's where the linguisticspart of it, right Neuro,
neurobrain linguistics, whatyou're saying and thinking,
(21:59):
programming.
So it's reprogramming yourunconscious mind to be able to
overcome all the limitingbeliefs and negative emotions
and negative behaviors that youhave, simply by talking to it in
a way that it understands.
Cheryl Fischer (22:15):
That's really fascinating.
I love all brain science, I'mjust fascinated.
Lisa Andria (22:21):
And I never realized how much I loved it
until I was trained in it and Iexperienced it in many ways and
found the tools and have themand I'm ever learning about it
even more every day.
I mean, you go through thetraining but you don't use
everything all the time and soeach time you use it on someone
that you know, this is likereframing.
Somebody says they have alimiting belief and you can
(22:43):
change how they believe about itby reframing that particular
thought and belief by reframingthat particular thought and
belief.
Cheryl Fischer (23:01):
I think it's very interesting that some of us
have this story that people whoare more successful than us
don't have time for us or we arebothering them when we ask for
advice and I will say that Iread this somewhere and I wish I
remembered where, but I have noidea, and it has.
It has been true for me thatmost women and this is probably
(23:22):
most people as well, but mostwomen who are more successful in
however we define that orwhatever we're going for are
happy to help because theyprobably had help and they want
to give back.
They want to pay it forward orback, whichever way.
That is so the majority, Ithink, are happy to do exactly
what you're describing.
Lisa Andria (23:43):
Definitely.
I mean, I see, and it took.
I'll be honest, you know, ittook me many years to ask for
any kind of help, even on apersonal basis, but I finally
realized that when I help others, I love it, it's a gift to me.
I really enjoy helping others.
So when you allow someone elseto help you, you're giving them
a gift Every.
(24:05):
I mean.
I'll tell you there's.
I don't know what thepercentage would be if we were
to ask people, but I would saymost women, most people, want to
be able to lift someone else up.
If they don't, then that's aproblem and a limiting belief
that they have, and you may noteven want to have a conversation
with them.
So the ones that want to helpyou are the ones that are coming
(24:25):
truly from their heart, have asense of compassion, and that's
who you want to communicate withand get your help from.
Cheryl Fischer (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I do a lot of women's networking
groups and that sort of thingtoo, and I think it's worthwhile
for anyone.
If you're listening, you know,just give it a look whether it's
Meetup or the Chamber ofCommerce or, you know, the
Mahjong group, whatever.
There's people out there forsure.
Lisa Andria (24:51):
Yeah, and I mean, don't think that, oh well, I'm
not anywhere that I want to be,so what would they find
interesting about me?
No, you are who you are.
You're a unique being.
You are where you are in lifeand, as long as you're in a
group, that's welcoming, and soyou, of course, will be able to
get that feeling as soon as youjoin or you get involved.
(25:14):
Most of the time, those folkswant to help you raise you up.
They want to help raise you up.
They want to make you feel verywanted and calm and clear and a
part of a community.
It doesn't matter where you'reat.
It doesn't matter.
We've all been at the startingpoint.
Cheryl Fischer (25:33):
Yes, and I actually had a friend say to me
one time when I was thinkingabout being a coach, and I was
thinking about being a podcaster, and I was like, who am I to do
this?
And she said, well, you're inyour fifties, so clearly you've
been really successful in life.
And I was like, how have I beensuccessful in life?
And she said, getting to your50s, there's been a lot of
(25:54):
success.
I'm sure, and it's true, that'strue for everybody.
Lisa Andria (25:58):
Yeah, See, I also wrote this down, I'm just
thinking about it.
Today, most of us focus on thenegative thoughts and the things
that we can't we feel we can'tdo, and we don't focus on the
things that and so as,especially women, we need to
focus on I can do this well andI can do that well and I have
(26:21):
succeeded and I've accomplishedthis.
That's what we need to focus on,that that's what's important
for us to focus on and then,using maybe a gratitude journal
or just journaling about thegood things that happened to you
, reading them to remindyourself, writing down all the
accomplishments you've made inyour life, and reading it and
(26:41):
really digesting it andbelieving it.
That's part of the journey andpart of transforming yourself.
Cheryl Fischer (26:48):
Yeah, I agree.
Before we get to the lastquestion, how, if somebody is
curious about what you'retalking about and what you do
and what you help people with,how can they find you and
connect with you?
Lisa Andria (26:59):
So I am ladieswholeap, that's L-E-A-P at
the end.
So, ladieswholeapcom, it's mywebsite.
You can get to my podcast.
You can get to all my socialmedia links.
You can understand what I do.
You can click the little buttonlet's connect and we can talk.
Cheryl Fischer (27:23):
That's really the best way to get ahold of me
and I'll have that in the shownotes.
So absolutely go check it outfor sure and definitely find
your, find, find, your, find her.
Who am I talking to right now?
If you're listening, definitelyfind her podcast ladies who
leave.
I love it.
Okay, so now I want to makesure that, after half an hour of
an amazing conversation, thatpeople can finish this episode
(27:44):
and say, oh, let me just makesure to remember that one thing.
What do you think is kind ofthe OMG?
I have to take this away fromthis conversation.
Most important thing forsomebody to remember Trust
yourself.
Lisa Andria (27:57):
Trust your own instincts, your own empowerment,
your own skill set, your ownintelligence, trust yourself and
trust your higher power anduniverse, because I believe that
when you know your why, whatyou want to do, and why the
universe, your higher power,will give you your how, so trust
(28:19):
in that it's a big deal.
Cheryl Fischer (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I love that, and I probably would
say that if someone asked me thequestion.
I just asked you.
So fantastic.
Well, lisa, thank you so muchfor joining us.
I know people are going to takeaway a lot from this.
Lisa Andria (28:35):
Wonderful.
I love being able to help otherwomen shine.
Cheryl Fischer (28:39):
I don't know if you noticed, but Lisa is not the
only guest who has said that.
Their OMG moment that we wantyou to remember is to trust
yourself, and whether you thinkabout it from the angle of
trusting your gut, trusting yourintuition, or just trusting,
once you make a decision, thatyou should follow through with
(29:01):
that decision because you madeit and you know what you want
and need, or whether you thinkabout it from a faith
perspective, trusting whatyou've been just kind of feeling
strongly about and reaching forTrust yourself.
I just love that as a wrap upmoment for us.
(29:21):
Today.
Now, lisa and I sat down for anextra little conversation about
her dream method that she usesto help women who are trying to
figure out what's next.
How do I do it?
How do I figure it out?
How do I make that leap?
So you will love that.
If you're not already part ofthe Patreon community, go to
(29:42):
patreoncom.
Slash mind your midlife.
It's completely free.
All summer, you can participatein the monthly zoom call with
me, you can hear the extra bonusmaterial and interviews, and I
think you'll love it.
So I will see you over thereand make sure you've hit the
follow button on your favoritepodcast app, because next week
(30:04):
we are going to be talking aboutsomething that is such an issue
for so many of us.
You heard Lisa say trustyourself.
Why do we have such a problemwith that?
Let's talk about the comparisontrap Because, even if you don't
realize it, you and I we'recomparing ourselves to a lot of
(30:24):
people a lot of the time andwe're often seeing that we come
up short and that's not evenreally true.
So I'll see you then.
In the meantime, slow down,notice what's going on in your
head and what's going on aroundyou and let's create something
amazing.
Slow down, notice what's goingon in your head and what's going
on around you and let's createsomething amazing.
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