March 5, 2025 • 51 mins
I would love to hear from you!
In this conversation, Nathan Francis uncovers the journey towards health, spirit, and personal development, emphasizing the importance of unlocking one’s potential for a happier life. The episode provides deep insights into how early influences shape our habits and the power of mindfulness in overcoming challenges.
• Nathan's transformative life experiences
• Discussing the impact of societal influences on personal choices
• The importance of mindfulness and meditation
• Daily habits that promote health and well-being
• Inspiring success stories of personal transformation
• Engaging youth through open conversations
• The interconnectedness of health, spirit, and happiness
• Practical tips for self-reflection and authenticity
This episode encourages you to take charge of your life by prioritizing health and understanding what truly matters to you.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hi everyone, I'm Nate Shearer and this is Mindforce,
a podcast for love, life andlearning, because your mind
matters most.
Today we have Nathan Francisand today we'll be talking about
his journey in health, spiritand personal development how
people can live happier lives,particularly our youth.
I gotta say Nathan's probablymy favorite guest so far because
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he has the best name Love that.
So we'll start with the warm-up, the who, the what and the why.
Nathan, who are you, what doyou do and why are you here?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh no, thank you for having me Nate and, yes, very
awesome name too.
I'm Nathan Francis.
I'm from Australia, I'm 30years old, I've been on quite
the journey, as I'll share inthe next little bit, and I'm
here to help as many people as Ican unlock their innate human
potential and become the bestversions of themselves and step
out into the world as theirauthentic self.
And I've really narrowed thatinto the youth of today.
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I feel like, with the socialmedia and all of these things
that they're distracted with,there's so many that we can talk
about as we go through.
It's just empowering them thatthey have the power and the
innate human potential inside ofthem, that they can do and be
anything and that they don'tneed to distract themselves with
all of these things.
So, yes, looking forward to theconversation today and that's a
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bit about me and who I amLooking forward to delving
deeper into that as we go.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Awesome.
I got some good questions forthat.
That sparks a whole lot ofthings.
We'll start with a few warm-upquestions.
Get the conversation going.
What's a childhood memory orexperience that inspired your
focus on health and happiness?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's an interesting question.
I read your email earlier and Iwanted to answer this one.
So for me, as a child, I alwaysknew I had gifts and different
things inside of me, but I wasalways told that I shouldn't do
this or should shouldn't do that.
It was the moment that, well,what inspired the health journey
was the moment when I was 19,.
Actually, I wasn't 19, I was 26.
(02:26):
And I lived a very you could say, a very Australian lifestyle
the drinking, the partying andsleeping around and doing those
things.
And I remember I had the momenton a plastic fold-out table
talking to three young girls andI fell through that table and
that was my moment of are yougoing to continue down this road
or are you going to grow?
And that was.
I know I was 26, but that was avery profound moment.
But the childhood moment I'llgo with was when I was at school
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.
I used to always ask questionsand I used to always question
things that were getting taughtin that and, yeah, I didn't
really buy the whole foodpyramid thing.
So that sort of started thehealth stuff.
But as I sort of grew up, Ijust sort of followed what
everyone else was doing anddidn't really delve into that
space too much until I was in mylate 20s.
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So, yeah, I've got a lot ofchildhood memories, but that's
always one that I was alwayswanting to question everything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, good stuff.
What's one piece of life adviceyou'd give to your teenage self
, going back to when you wereyounger?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
yeah, another good one it would be.
I love you and that you aresafe and that you are very
powerful and you can do somepretty awesome things with the
right mentor, the right help andwith everything that's been
going on in your life.
You are worthy and you areenough is what I'd say to that
teenage self.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So, as you were drinking and things like that,
was it to have fun or do youthink it was a deeper root cause
, where you were drinking to tryto avoid other things, or what
do you think that was for solong?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, it's a good question because when I was
younger, it was all about havingfun.
Alcohol was a very prominentthing here in Australia all the
sports stars.
It's a good question becausewhen I was younger, it was all
about having fun.
Alcohol was a very prominentthing here in Australia all the
sports stars, it's all on the TVand all in the sporting arena,
and I watched a lot of sport andthey were all doing their thing
outside of that.
So there was that programmingas well.
There was also surrounded bypeople within my family that
drank a lot, so that was alwaysa big program for me too.
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But it started off as fun whenI was 18, but then it became an
escape and then it became a bitof a problem.
So, yeah, it started off funand then it became a problem,
and that problem came to a headin 2021 and I looked myself in
the mirror and said no more, andI haven't had a drink since and
my life has only gotten bettersince.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, I always wonder .
So I'm military and so we havea lot of things that revolve
around it and just sointeresting because it's based
on history and culture andthings like that, and I think
there's you know, some goodabout it coming together and
having a drink together andwhatnot.
But it is odd to me thatthere's so many things like
every promotion, every ceremony,everything like has to start at
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the bar.
It's like could we just, youknow, focus on the people that
were there to talk about and,you know, congratulate, and does
it really have to be all aboutthe drinking all the time?
So sometimes I wonder if weshould take a step back and I'm
sure that's probably blasphemyand people would be mad that we
would drink less but like that'snot the reason you're there.
You're there for the people thatare promoting or winning an
award or you know whatever it is, and the first thing is like
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when are we going to hit the bar?
So it is an interesting thing.
I think it is fun, but I wonder, like you said, like when does
it switch from fun to being, youknow, more of a problem, where
it's like in every single thingthat we do and we have to go do
it.
Maybe it should be somethingseparate, but I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, I believe that it starts when we're young.
In that age group of zero tosix, we're picking up a lot of
oh not a lot of our subconsciousprogramming.
And if alcohol was a veryprominent thing inside our
household and on the TV on arepetitive level I always talk
about it's like going to the gym.
If you want to build muscle andbuild strength in your arms and
your upper body or anywhere inthe body, you need to do the
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reps and go there consistently.
It's the same with your mindtoo.
If you've been programmed andyou've been watching movies like
American Pie and watchingCharlie Sheen in Two and a Half
Men, all these drinking TV showsand movies, and then your
parents and your friends offriends parents, friends are all
drinking alcohol, then you'rebeing exposed to that on a
subconscious level.
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You're watching people drink,you're hearing things and you're
downloading that as a programand you're going to play that
card as a safe card in society.
When you grow up, you're goingto be surrounded by a very
similar tribe to your parents,because we're pack animals.
We mirror, mimic and copy eachother.
If the people around us aredoing those things, we're more
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inclined to do those things on asubconscious level, because
we're all about finding safetyand comfort inside the tribe and
doing things to fit in, toblend in, to go along and get
along.
That's why we do it Then itbecomes a problem because if you
watched your parents deal withtheir problems, deal with their
stress and deal with their stuffand they were doing it through
alcohol and through all thesethings you're more inclined to
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deal with those problems theexact same way.
Why?
Because you're exposed to thatas a child.
You are watching that, you arehearing that it's a safe card
for you to play.
We'll just deal with that overhere the same way my parents did
.
That's how this all works, andif you're watching TV shows and
moves with it in as well, you'rejust getting more reps, more
repetition and more safe cardsto play in society.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That's interesting because it's just so deep rooted
in there You're like oh no, Idon't.
I don't have a problem, I don'thave this.
But, like you said, it's goingall the way back through that
childhood.
So even though you don't, youknow, believe it, or it's not
the forefront of it, it's thereall the time, sinking in farther
and farther.
So that's, yeah, that's prettypowerful.
The last question I had for youis what's a simple daily habit
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that instantly brightens yourmood or boosts your health?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I have two.
I've narrowed it down to two soI always do a meditation when I
wake up in the morning and begrateful for where I am and be
grateful and be open to whateverthe day is going to bring, and
then I go down to the gym andthat's been a really good habit
of mine, too is really buildingmy physical strength and
building my physical health,because that's one of the main
pillars of strength that Ialways focus on.
Health is the foundation of alllife success.
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If you're not healthy, youdon't have the energy or the
vitality to do the things youwant to do each day.
If you can get your healthright, then the rest of the
pillars will follow.
Health is the foundation.
I do that physically and I goin the gym and I'm always
testing myself and pushingmyself through my own limits and
through my own blocks tocontinue to grow and evolve.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think that's perfectly inline with what I'm trying to do
on the show and why I named itlike mental fitness and things
like that.
I love that you combine themeditation with the physical
because I think for the longesttime it's been a separate thing,
which is just so bizarre to mebecause the brain resides within
the head.
You know it's part of the body,but it's for some reason we've
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seen mental health as this youknow, separate part, and it's
like, okay, well, I'll work onthat at a later time, or most of
the time I feel like we waitand only work on it when it's
the worst, you know, the worstthat it's ever been.
We wait for the worst day.
And it's just so bizarre to mebecause exactly what you said
like you work on your buys andtries and work on that because
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you want to consistently getbetter, and so the same way we
should be working on our minds,if that's meditation or
journaling or you know, you knowpushing through and trying
something new.
But it's weird that we'll justwait until it's a really bad day
and then go to, you know, thecounselor.
But we need to do thatconsistently.
It shouldn't wait until it'sthe worst day.
You need to be offloading andgetting rid of some of that
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stuff as you go.
So awesome, awesome advicebetween the balance between
physical and mental health.
Well, uh, uh, before we jumpinto the interview, I wanted to
see if you had a question for me, and then we'll get started on
the rest of it yeah, whatinspired, what's what's been
your biggest inspiration in yourlife?
or who's inspiration?
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I'm sure it's going to soundlike a pretty cheesy answer, but
I'm in like a leadershipposition at work and so my, my
inspiration is always the people, and it's the people getting
things done that they neverthought they could, and it's
just so powerful to me.
I know that, like it's supposedto be mission first and getting
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the mission done, like I wantto get the mission done, but
that's not what's really cooland inspiring.
It's usually like somethingthat a person a certificate, a
degree, they tried to adopt akid or get married or you know,
fill in the blank of all theselife changes, something that
ultimately changed that person'slife forever that they thought
never was possible.
(10:54):
You know we sit down, figure itout, work through it, you know,
build up finances to accomplishit or whatever it may be, but
watching people accomplishthings will always be, you know,
the number one motivator for me, cause in those leadership
positions you have to deal withsome of the negative stuff
people getting in trouble andthings like that and so those
will kind of pull you down alittle bit.
But every time you get someonethat wins something or
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accomplishes something, like itjust fills you all the way back
up and you're able to kind ofpress on.
But definitely when people areaccomplishing things.
There's just so many thingsI've seen where, when the good
news comes across like Facebookor wherever you see it you just
are completely filled becauseyou know that person, you built
a relationship with them andonce they're like accomplishing
things that they wanted to,sometimes even like move bases
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you know we go in differentdirections or different states,
different countries, but I stillknow them and a couple of years
have gone by and you seesomething like hey, you know, I
was a part of their journeyalong the way and now they're
getting stuff done.
So there's just nothing betterthan that.
Love that answer yeah.
So we'll transition into yourjourney in health.
So can you share a pivotalmoment in your health journey
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that reshaped your perspectiveon wellness?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I love that Good question.
So the pivotal start of myjourney through that space was
2020.
And I know a lot of people thatwork to the truth of the world
and sort of learn about what'sreally going on here, and I know
I'd went down those rabbitholes myself not sure how or
where or what level yourlisteners are on, but I went
down most of them and it waslike wow, okay, they're really
going after us here on ourhealth level and I just made
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that transition from buying thecrap food to buying the organic,
fresh, farmer's market food andI made that conscious choice
and it just gave my body more ofa chance to reset itself,
eating that more quality of food.
And I worked out that it's onlya dollar or two extra a kilo
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and he added up over time.
If you're treating your bodythat way this is what I always
say if you're treating your bodylike a garbage bin, well then
eventually that's going to costyou more over time as you get
sicker and sicker.
But if you can take care ofyour health as of right now and
make that switch, you'reactually saving yourself
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thousands of dollars down theroad, and I know a lot of people
in society aren't thinkingabout long-term, it's all about
short-term.
It's like if we can change ourand expand our minds and our
consciousness and think aboutthe long-term, that's when we're
going to have some real shiftshere, Because at the moment
everyone's just in this box,focused on the here and the now,
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not focusing on two, three,four, five, six, 10 years down
the road, and that's on alllevels of life, not just health.
But for me it was making thatconscious choice of hang on a
minute.
They're spraying this food withherbicides and pesticides that
aren't really good for us.
I'm just going to go over hereand see what these farmers
markets are doing and buyingsome fresh organic produce and
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then supporting those localfarmers that are getting shunned
by the big companies, like herein Australia it's Coles and
Woolies, America's Costco.
It's like turn your back onthose supermarkets, on those big
chains, and go down to yourlocal market and support your
local farmer that's gettingshunned by those people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So that's what I do.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So what was that change?
Was it someone that was alsodoing it, or did you see
something in the news, or whatwas it that you're like, hey,
I'm going to go to the farmer'smarket.
You just woke up one morning.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I read a book called how to Eat, move and Be Healthy.
It's the Bible of Health byPaul Cech.
That's C-H-E-K.
He runs the biggest holisticwellness institute in the world,
based in LA, california.
If any of your listeners want acopy of that book, I suggest
going on and putting in theGoogle C-H-E-K Institute and
you'll find that book and all ofthe programs.
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Paul Cech is awesome andreading that book changed my
whole view on the physicalhealth and what we should be
putting in our bodies A lot ofmuscle testing.
In that book you can reallytrain your body to understand
what sort of food that it wantsand what it needs.
And if you need more protein,you need more da-da-da-da.
That book is the Bible ofHealth and I suggest everyone
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reads that book and that willtransform their health on the
physical level.
So I read that book and thatchanged my life.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Hey, it sounds like a good book.
So did you see a change inenergy levels and things like
that?
Was it immediate?
Did you have any sort of likeyou know?
Did it feel bad to switch overinitially?
Or what was that transitionlike when you switched over to
better whole foods?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I could instantly feel a shift in my body.
I could instantly feel thatwhat I was eating was growing
with love and growing with a lotof love.
And I could feel that energy asI was consuming that food,
because I feel like we're allenergy and food's energy as well
.
If you're walking into a, intoa big chain supermarket, a lot
of people that are putting thefood out and they're working
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there don't like their job, sothey're pouring that energy into
the food, so you're eating thatnegative energy at a very base
level.
Then you got those farmers thatare probably getting on and
getting paid and being told topoison their food and all that.
So you're eating, eating thisreal negative energy.
You switch over here and you dothis.
Those farmers are loving theirjob, they're loving what they're
growing, they're loving comingto the market every Saturday
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morning.
They're all bright and cheery.
They're all saying, hey, howare you going?
Asking about your day?
And you're eating thatvibration, that energy.
You're eating thatconsciousness.
You're eating a better energyrather than going into a place
where no one likes their job,and that negative energy.
So for me, I was feeling morevibrant, feeling more vital on a
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physical level, just frommaking that one switch.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it's wild how like perspective can change so
much.
There's a short book I readcalled the Fred Factor and the
guy talks about how when peoplelook at you, know their jobs and
how they feel like things arecompletely different.
One of the examples he uses Ilove it's a guy that's in the
Solastic, so it's like a bigbook bookstore or whatever, over
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in the United States and kidsgo there.
There's like a Selastic bookfair, so it's like once a
quarter or whatever, like thekids stop, they go to the
library and there's bookseverywhere and the kids love it
and it's crazy.
But he's talking to a guy thatdrives a forklift in the
warehouse and he asked the guywhat he does and you would think
he would say oh, I'm just theforklift driver, oh, I just do
this, and kind of downplay it.
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And I guess he asked the guyand, without you know, skipping
a beat or anything, he says Ideliver the ability for kids to
read, love that.
It's like he is making thathappen.
He could have downplayed it.
I hate it.
Like I'm just a forklift driver, but no, he knows that he's a
piece of the larger thing andhe's getting books to kids and
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so connecting yourself to likewhat you're doing.
I think is is really important,definitely.
Next question is what's achallenge you've overcome in
your health journey and how didit impact the way you help
others?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
it's interesting, this is more of a mental health
here.
So I watched a lot of porn whenI was growing up.
I started watching when I wasabout 8, 9, 10 and that took a
long time.
That's a lot of programming aswell on a sexual level.
You could understand the way Iwas treating women and what I
was doing in my life from about18 to 26.
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That's the lifestyle I lived.
The root of that was the porn.
The amount of porn I waswatching.
That was my biggest challengeto overcome, because that's the
place where I ran to and Iwasn't feeling great.
It wasn't the alcohol, it wasthe porn.
I'd just go there and just I'dgo okay, I'm going to shut
everything out and just go andwatch that and consume that
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content, because the internetgirlfriend is just the.
As a young boy it's like lookat that beautiful woman on your
screen and as a young boy you'redrawn to that.
So that little child in mewould always feel safe and
comfortable doing that ratherthan facing anything that was
going on in my life.
It was easy to quit the alcohol.
It was easy to quit the casualsex lifestyle.
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It was easy to quit all thesethings.
But the one thing.
The one thing that I had wasthe porn.
The moment I made thatconscious choice to quit that,
to harness that energy and totransmute it out into the world
and into my life was the biggestgrowth moment for me, was
turning my back on that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So what was the transition point for that?
I'm curious.
Always in that transition point, like cold turkey, just never
again.
Or how did you transition, orwhat was that transition point?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
good question, because I called turkey
everything else and it was soeasy.
It was so easy to call turkeyalcohol and casual sex and all
these things.
Porn was hard because I wasalways drawn to it on it, like
there was a beautiful woman oninstagram, a beautiful woman on
facebook or I'm watching itsomewhere and I'm like for me it
was.
It was allowing myself to letthat resistance get longer and
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be okay with the fact that I maygo back at some point.
So early on it was, if I canjust get through a week, give
myself a pat on the back,awesome.
And then it just grew fromthere progression or perfection.
I just kept inch by inch,little by little.
Yeah, there were moments whereI'd just binge on it and just
watch two or three videos a dayor whatever.
But over time the resistancegot longer.
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So a week turned into threeweeks and a week turned into a
month, and then it turned intotwo months and then, inch by
inch by inch by inch, it gotlonger and longer and longer.
That was the way I could breakit.
But then I was also askingmyself the questions Okay, so
I've lasted this long, so whydid I go back?
What was I drawn to what wasgoing on in my life around this
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time that was drawing me backinto that content and it was
asking myself those deeperquestions to get the answer.
And it was always the sameanswer each time.
It's like you're seeking safetyhere.
That little boy just needs abit more love because
something's going on in yourlife and that's what you're used
to doing.
That was comfortable.
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For me, being uncomfortable issomething that I have now
embraced.
I'm embracing being moreuncomfortable in situations in
my life so that I can grow more.
I find that a lot of people,including myself.
I was very comfortable in thelifestyle I was living and I
took that all away and was veryuncomfortable, but it allowed me
to grow and start what I'vestarted.
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If I didn't do that, I'd stillbe who knows where.
So that's the answer to thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Spending a lot of time on something you don't need
to be using.
Using that time a little morewisely now, correct?
I wanted to ask.
This is going all the way back,but I was curious.
You said you would tell youryounger self that they are loved
.
Where does that stem from?
Throughout childhood, did younot feel that love?
Because so far you've you'vedropped the word love a few
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different times, so how doesthat play into you know, your
childhood?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
well on my journey.
I went on a trip up thenortheast coast of australia
about two and a half years agoand I was on a kinesiologist
table and she, she saw me andshe saw me and she said
something happened to you whenyou were six and I went straight
there.
So this part of the mind, thesubconscious, remembers
everything and I always say it'sthe greatest love story ever
told.
This part of the mind wants tokeep you safe and it loves you.
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Doesn't matter whether yourcontent's positive or negative,
it can't tell the difference.
It will just find a safe cardfor you to play and for me.
Card for you to play For me.
I was playing Lego on the floor.
My parents were in aparent-teacher interview with my
teacher.
I was in probably grade one orgrade two.
She was saying Nathan shouldn'tbe writing about the things
he's writing about.
I'd write fantasy, comic stuff.
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I'd write being a hero, kickinggoals after sirens, hitting the
winning runs in cricket, beingthat hero.
I used to write that all thetime.
She said Nathan needs to bewriting what everyone else is
writing, the handwriting on theboard and all that rubbish For
me.
That shut off my ability towrite and to express myself.
For a long time I didn't do that, I just conformed with everyone
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else.
I didn't know why.
It was the moment in time whenI went back to that child and
said Nathan, that's one person'sperception of who and what you
can be.
There are six billion people onthis planet, Nathan, there's
one person that's going toresonate with you, there will be
one.
I told him that and thatshifted so much on all levels of
my life because in the next sixweeks that followed from that
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moment I wrote my book.
That book was there.
I just had to unlock that bytelling that little child
something else, because theteacher put a block there On an
energetic, subconscious level.
I went right, we're going totell that teacher to go jump
because we're not taking thatstory on anymore.
That's not my story, that's herstory.
I played that out in my life.
We're just going to forgiveyourself for allowing that
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teacher to do that to you, tosay that to you.
Now we're going to go over hereand write your book.
And I did that in six weeks.
And then from there started thepodcast, started the business,
found my voice, I found mywriting ability.
It came back online and here Iam now.
That little child just neededto hear something else, so I
told it a different story.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's so crazy that one moment all the way back then
is so pivotal and can changethe trajectory of everything.
That's wild.
So what's the name of the bookand what's it all about?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So it's Breaking Free .
It's a teenager's and youngadult's guide to identifying
their addictions and overcomingthem.
It's a lot about my story fromwell.
I wrote it two and a half yearsago, so it was from my life
until 28.
So I wrote that for that timeof my life.
I put in there why peoplenecessarily do those things and
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how their subconscious works,and then I wrote how I did it
and how it affected my healthand the tools that I used as
resources that helped me in thattime.
There's obviously more now, butI wrote it for that time and
those tools in there reallyhelped me through that period of
my life.
That was a bit of a struggle,but I'm very grateful for that
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time in my life as well.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, it's always good.
I mean, sometimes we look atthese negative situations, but
it plays out for the reason thatit's supposed to, you know,
Correct?
I wanted to ask about thedrinking being in the military.
Like I said, you know, there'sa lot of social gatherings, a
lot of things like that.
Have you found trouble with it?
Like now that you don't andpeople cause, I feel like people
always want to be like, oh no,just have one, or they make you
(25:16):
feel some type of way.
Have you found like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
you know actionable tips and tricks to kind of not
make that as weird sometimes,yeah, so for me, I surround
myself with people that drank.
So I took myself out of thoseenvironments and out of those
places to work on myself.
And when you work on yourself,we're all energy and people are
energy as well.
So when you expand yourconsciousness, you work on your
health.
You then meet people that areon the same wavelength, the same
vibration as you and you'llfind people aren't doing the
(25:49):
things that you used to do.
And for me, I was surroundingmyself with people that were
taking care of themselves, thatwere fathers and that were
husbands, and that's the life.
That's where I want to go now.
So I chose to surround myselfwith people that were building
what I wanted to build.
So I just took myself out ofone tribe and allowed myself and
be open to expressing andmeeting a new one.
(26:14):
Because we're pack animals sowe're going to find a tribe that
suits us.
But once we're consciouslyaware of the people that are
around us, I often ask in myquestionnaire when I send to
clients is who are your fivebest friends?
What are their weights and whatare their habits?
Because you are who yousurround yourself with.
If you're surrounding yourselfwith drinkers, smokers and
partiers, you're the drinker,smoker, partier too.
(26:35):
If you're surrounding yourselfwith people that are sober, that
are taking care of themselves,then you're more inclined to do
that as well.
You are who you surroundyourself with.
People that are sober, that aretaking care of themselves, then
you're more inclined to do thatas well.
You are who you surroundyourself with.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's not just you, it's the people around you oh
yeah, that's powerful, andespecially the temptation I mean
you're removing it pretty muchall together, like if people are
all on the same page.
You don't even have to thinkabout getting pulled back
because that's not even in thein the room and not talking
about it but what really helpedme in that time though because I
was still playing some sportand drinking was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
so for anyone listening out there, a big thing
that helped me was that by mebeing different and by me not
drinking, I can help thosepeople, because when people are
drunk, they open up to you.
So I thought, well, I can go inthere and help people.
Yes, I can answer the questionwhat I don, why I don't drink
anymore.
I walked in there.
It was the first question Iasked first moment I walked into
the career club function.
(27:25):
It's like I don't drink anymore.
Why don't you drink anymore?
Well, these are the reasons whythis is the life I was living.
I was open about it and saidlook, I used to do these things.
I didn't like the way I wasacting when I was drunk.
I didn't like the way I wasacting full stop.
So it was partly because of thealcohol that helped them.
They're like oh, wow, that'sreally awesome.
(27:46):
But then I was able to connectwith them.
I was just drinking water, theywere drinking beers and stuff,
but then, as the night would goon, they'd tell me stuff,
personal stuff.
It's like well, I'm sober enoughto be able to help them in that
moment.
I'm not I'm not drunk with them.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Huh, that's interesting you were able to
find that way to connect.
Yeah, so you said that waspretty well received.
Everyone was all on board.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They weren't like, oh , you're just being a sissy and
this and that there was a few ofthose comments, but as you sort
of go on this journey, youdevelop a thick skin and those
comments just wash straight offyou yeah, and especially if
you're helping people, I feellike even you get some comments,
but you help a couple peoplelike the helping already makes
you feel better and you're justright back on track.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So even if you do get a little negative like hey, I
helped three people tonight likeI don't care the two comments
along the way I say to peopletoo is that you're gonna have
negative nullies out there, butyou're also gonna have positive.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's like focus on the people that you're changing.
I know that when you putyourself out there, you're
opening yourself up to commentsonline.
It's like, well, if they'recommenting on your stuff, think
about it like this the friendsof the friends of that person is
seeing your, they're coming onyour post.
So if it's not helping, tomdown down the road who said, oh,
(28:58):
you just being immature, go geta beer in you, or whatever they
say.
It's like, well, tom's friendsare saying that, so what if that
helps one of Tom's friends?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, helping people along the way, Absolutely.
The next question I have foryou how do you define a healthy
life beyond just physicalwell-being?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
This is a good question because I was talking
about the pillars before.
So once you get the physicalpillar right, then you can focus
on the mental, emotional andspiritual.
So the mental part is goinginto the mental gym and finding
content that inspires you ratherthan makes you go and do the
things that you don't want to do.
So finding empowering content.
Listening to my podcast,listening to your podcast, is a
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good way to start.
And going into the mental gymand figuring out other things
that you're watching andlistening to.
Are they making your lifebetter or are they making your
life worse?
The mainstream music is allabout bending girls over.
It's all about sex.
It's all about money.
It's all about that lifestyle.
So if you're listening to musicthat's all about that, then
that's the lifestyle you'reliving lifestyle.
(30:00):
So if you're listening to musicthat's all about that, then
that's the lifestyle you'reliving.
Maybe find some empoweringmusic.
Listen to some 5-2-8-Hertz,listen to some empowering
podcasts, listen to someempowering stories, and then
that will change.
The TV shows you're watching areall about rape, torture, kill,
murder, sex, lying, cheating,stealing.
If that's the TV shows you'rewatching, that's what you're
going to act out in society.
(30:21):
Maybe turn your back on thoseTV shows.
That's the mental gym.
Then you need to go to theemotional gym.
Allow yourself to feel thesadness that you've held on to
for such a long, long, long,long time.
Because there's a real bigprogram out there amongst the
men of today's society, aroundthe age group of my father, of
don't ask for help's notcourageous, it's, it's not bold,
(30:43):
it's on a weakness, crying'sweak.
Well, we're here to flip thatscript.
Asking for help was the bestthing I ever did.
Crying was the best thing thatI ever did.
Feeling my emotions was thebest thing I did, allowing
myself to be like where's thissadness?
Why am I sad?
I'm gonna feel it, but thenfeel the other emotions,
allowing yourself to to feelgratitude, to feel joy, to feel
(31:05):
excitement.
So you're feeling all of theemotions.
You're coming in tune with yourbody.
That's the emotional, then thespiritual.
What are your boundaries?
Are you allowing people toinfluence you?
Like you're going to the pub,you're saying you aren't
drinking, yet you find yourselfdrinking because Joey said you
should be drinking tonight andthat you're weak if you don't.
So you leave your car there andyou get your car the next day.
(31:25):
How many times does that happen?
So what are your boundaries?
How powerful is the word no toyou?
If you're saying no and you'regoing against that, think about
it.
That's the spiritual on somelevel is using the word no and
then sticking to it, settingyourself some goals and then
achieving them.
That's the spiritual on onelevel.
(31:47):
If you can get those pillarsall going in the same direction,
that success mountain doesn'tlook as hard anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, which one do you think was the most difficult
for you to get in balance,mental and emotional?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
well, mental, for a start, because of what I was
talking about before, but alsothe emotional, you know, feeling
.
I was often, always angry.
I just didn't know why.
So allowing myself to feel thatanger and understanding why I
was so angry at the world.
But it wasn't just angry at theworld, it was a mirror, like
the universe the world is.
But it wasn't just angry at theworld, it was a mirror Like the
universe, the world is a mirror.
(32:23):
Right, I was angry at myself.
Because I was angry at myselfbecause I allowed all of these
things to happen in my life thatI didn't have control over.
So I went on a journey ofself-forgiveness and forgave
myself for allowing all this tohappen, to then move on and to
allow myself these opportunitiesto grow and evolve, to allow
myself these opportunities togrow and evolve.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I want to jump into the livinghappier lives.
I think this is an awesome oneof your three main topics.
So what's one actionable tipyou'd recommend to youth today
who are struggling with stressor uncertainty?
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is.
If you can find just fiveminutes in your day to switch
off that phone, to switch offthat TV, to take your headphones
out and just be still, that's agood place to start, because
you have computers, you havevideo games, you have TikTok,
you have phones, you have all ofthese things that will just
(33:23):
keep distracting you.
If you can just find fiveminutes to just ask yourself how
you're feeling, how you'regoing, and just connect with
yourself, take three deepbreaths, that's a good place to
start.
Or find something that bringsyou joy and just do that a
little bit more.
Whether it's reading that book,whether it's doing some writing
(33:47):
something creative, just dothat more, rather than sifting
through TikTok videos about catsand dogs and all this
meaningless that you'reconsuming.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, it's wild how much we consume that doesn't
really do anything.
I saw a study where they weretalking about scan people's
brains as they were watching tvand while they were staring at a
blank wall.
And your brain lights up morewhen you're staring at the blank
white wall, because it startsto think about patterns and
what's going on and how you'refeeling and all those things is
(34:19):
you don't have somethingprovided.
But once you have somethingprovided, your mind almost
entirely shuts off because it'sproviding all the plot, the show
, the whatever.
And so just staring at a whitewall on the side of your house
or whatever actually activatesyour brain more than the TV show
.
So, yeah, pause and take amoment.
I think that's one thing that'sso difficult right now.
(34:40):
We got Google.
You can get any answer you wantin a matter of seconds.
You can drive through food youget in a matter of minutes.
Everything is faster and faster.
But I really think we need tofind better ways of slowing down
.
Do you have any other ways ofslowing down?
And self-reflection?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, get a journal or get a book or just start
writing.
Just write or sing or justexpress yourself, because our
youth are very under theinfluence of being someone that
they're not to fit in.
If you can just let thoseinfluences go and just be you,
(35:18):
you'll still have the rightpeople come into your life.
Just find something creativeand just go and do it and that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I wanted to ask, when you first started talking about
social media, how do you talkto people and coach them through
like not believing everything?
You see, because I feel likeright now, the way that we're
set up, you show the family trip, you show the highlights, you
show all the good stuff.
I don't think very often wethrow up any negative or the
struggles or the challenges thatget to stuff.
(35:49):
You show the success, strugglesor the challenges that get to
stuff.
You show the success.
So how do you you know, asyou're working with youth and
things like that, how do you getthem to understand?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
that what they see is probably not accurate.
Yeah Well, that's the thing ishaving those conversations with
them and saying, well, noteveryone's life is what it seems
.
You know, social media can bevery fake and a lot of people
live double lives.
So it's like some of yourinfluences, how are they going
on the inside?
They might look good, theymight present themselves in a
(36:19):
certain way, but how are theygoing in their personal, private
lives?
And just having thoseconversations?
But also for me, allowing myselfto let them talk and let them
express and then having thatopen dialogue, because I find it
really important that with ouryouth, there's a lot of people
that they go and see, whetherit's friends or whether it's
therapists or counselors orwhatever it is.
(36:41):
Not many of them actuallylisten to what they're saying or
listen to their views or listento how they're feeling.
It's all about oh, here's someantidepressants, go and take
them and just see you later.
It's like I share my story andmy trials and my tribulations
and my failures with them, toallow them to share theirs, and
(37:02):
I hold that space for them.
I've jumped on many calls withyouth and all I've said is hello
and goodbye.
They just needed someone tobounce things off.
They needed someone just tolisten to them, because a lot of
people out there aren'tlistening to what they have to
say all their feelings.
So I just sit there and say hiand bye sometimes, and that is a
very profound thing, becausethey feel like someone can
(37:26):
finally listen to them and nothave any judgment.
I don't judge them for whatthey're doing, I'm just there to
help them.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, and I think it's important to meet people
where they're at.
I think that's something that'scommonly not done very well,
like when I have a flight or I'min a position of leadership at
some point along the way.
I don't do it initially becauseI don't want to freak everybody
out, but a few months intohaving the flight, I talk about
how, you know, I've gone througha divorce and I co-parent and I
lost my dad a few years ago andyou know, both my grandparents
(37:58):
and I bring up these things andit's I'm like I'm not trying to
be negative and pull things down, but I want you to know that at
any given time, if you need tocome to me like I've been
through some stuff, not sayingI've been through the same thing
, that's a whole.
Another thing I think people doLike I'm not trying to, you
know, say I've been through thesame thing and compare.
That's not the thought.
But the gap is not too big.
Bring me something, let'sfigure it out.
(38:19):
Either do you want me to try tofix it or do you want me to
just listen.
I think that's important to likefigure out what, because some
people just want and otherpeople you know the others don't
want you to solve it.
They want to work through itand process it.
But I think you know, being anormal person that's been
(38:41):
through some stuff, I think somepeople.
I know I've had leaders wherethey're like oh, open door, you
can swing by any time, but fromthe outside it always felt like
they were perfect.
I'm not bringing my problem tosomeone that's perfect, like
you've got it all squared away,and so I intentionally bring up
some of the negative things thathappen throughout my life and I
hope when someone does havetheir bad day, like they're
(39:01):
coming right in, they're notthinking a second.
You know about it.
Hey, nate's there.
You know we'll try to figure itout and move forward, but it
shouldn't be, you know, a big.
So I'm glad you brought up that.
You know bridging the gap andmeeting people where they're at,
I think that's super important.
How do you encourage youngergenerations to build habits that
promote both physical andmental well-being?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's, as I said before, finding those five
minutes to just to shut out thattechnological world, and I
encourage them to go to the gymor to exercise and to move their
bodies Because, as I said,we're all energy, we're designed
to move.
We aren't designed to have ourheads down with this poor
posture from looking at ourphones all day.
We aren't designed to sit atschool all day and learn things
(39:45):
that aren't necessarily thingsthat we should be learning and
we don't want to learn.
So I try and encourage them toget outside and move, just for
five or ten minutes a day, ifit's, and then building those
habits from there.
But it's also about asking themwhy aren't they moving?
Why are they choosing to dothese things and having those
conversations and asking themwhy, putting the spotlight back
on them and saying, well, okay,why aren't you moving?
(40:07):
Why don't you want to move?
And then getting to that issueand then ripping that route out
and going well, you actually canmove and you can do some pretty
awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, that makes sense, Solving it at the root.
I mean, if not, it's just goingto keep going or become some
other, you know negative thing.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Unfortunately, fortunately out there a lot of
uh, a lot of the youth have tohave a lot of parents that
aren't moving either.
So they're not.
They're not around people thatare exercising.
As I said, you are who yousurround yourself with.
If you're raising a family thatdon't move, you're 80 to 90
percent more likely not to movetoo, given the way the
subconscious mind pathway worksyeah, what you're used to.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Absolutely.
I love stories.
I think you know back tocaveman days.
That's how we passed thingsdown, and so I'd love to hear a
success story of someone youhelped and then you know how
their life was transformed forthe better.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, I've given out any personal details, of course
no, I pondered this questiontoday, so we'll call this client
of mine joey.
And he was on the brink ofgoing to that place, of not
being him any longer, and in sixmonths he has a full-time job
and has found love.
He's only 17, because all heneeded was someone to listen to
(41:27):
why he was angry, to why he wassad, but then having someone
allow him to feel that.
That's all I did.
I just listened, yeah that'sinteresting.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
You just open up when you work with me.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I show a lot of affirmations.
So I wrote him someaffirmations that were a lot of
I love you in there andunfortunately he wasn't able to
find those words to say tohimself.
But six months later he saidthat to himself and to a girl of
his age and he rang me and saidI've just told those three
words.
I said how's it feel?
(42:00):
He said I feel I just feel loveand he said it's such a
beautiful thing.
But all I did was listen.
That's all I did.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and one of my favorite quotes.
She says we're havingconversations all the time and
sometimes they involve otherpeople, so there's just that
inner dialogue is going all thetime.
You're talking to yourself allthe time, like you do have
conversations throughout the daywith other people, but from the
moment you wake up, you'retalking to yourself,
(42:49):
no-transcript.
What role has spirituality ormindfulness played in your
personal growth and happiness?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, when I fell through that table, that was the
start of the physical journeyof okay, why am I doing the
things that I'm doing, what aremy boundaries, what's the life
I'm living?
And I'll never forget the dayafter I fell off that table
Actually it was 5 o'clock in themorning, so it was actually a
few hours after that incidentthat I listened to a podcast
that my mentor was doing,talking about self-sabotage and
the subconscious mind and howwe're influenced and how we're
(43:21):
programmed, and I resonated withthat and I labeled myself the
king of self-sabotage.
Like anything good in my life,I'd push that self-destruct
button on an unconscious levelconscious level because I didn't
feel like I was worthy ofanything or anyone in my life.
So it was that podcast that Ilistened to really changed my
life, because four months laterI did his coaching program and I
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was learning about thesubconscious and going on that
healing journey of theself-discovery of why I was the
way I was and how I was able tonavigate and reprogram and
change the trajectory of my life.
But it was also around that timewhere I dabbled in some
spiritual modalities such asReiki and quantum healing and
all these things, and I wasgetting all of these things
(44:02):
coming to me.
All this energy, all these pastloved ones, all these past
relatives, all these things werejust coming back to me, and
that opened up the spiritualside of my life of being okay.
Well, there's some energy here.
There are some things going onthat I've had going on since I
was a child and I shut that offbecause I was scared.
Well, I'm not scared anymore.
(44:22):
So, for me, meditating andslowing my mind down allowed me
to connect with myself andconnect with spirit.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.
What's a mindset shift orpractice that you found most
effective in fosteringresilience and balance?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's a good question.
For me, just having a visionboard of where I want to be in
six months, where I want to bein 12 months, and looking at
that every night and everymorning kept me focused, because
I wrote on there why I'm doingwhat I'm doing, who I'm doing it
for, and that reminded me of mywhy and why I'm getting out of
(45:04):
bed at 5 am to go to the gym,why I'm doing the things I'm
doing, why I'm speaking onplatforms like this.
It's to help inspire others, butalso to help inspire those
people that were just like mefour or five years ago.
So I have that written on mywardrobe and I look at it and go
well, if I'm feeling a certainway, I'll just go back and read
(45:25):
that and go hang on.
This is why you're doing whatyou're doing.
It's not just for you, it's forthe collective, it's for
humanity.
There's a bigger picture here.
You're here to do some prettycool stuff, so let's refocus
back onto what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
They got the good too , because I think motivation
will come and go, butconsistency has to be there, so
you can't have motivation everyday, just not the way it works.
So having that goal, I think,is really powerful.
Some of my best, some of mybest.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Some of my best gym workouts have been where I've
been feeling just like rubbishbecause I'll go in there and
I'll move the body, I'll liftheavier weights and I'll walk
out feeling like a million bucks.
Or I'll just go for a bike ride, or I'll go for a walk, or I'll
go swim excuse me, I'll go swimin the ocean, or I'll go just
take my shoes off and walk outin the bush, like that all just
(46:15):
calms me down.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, you never know which one it's going to be.
There could be a good one outthere.
You have to put those shoes onand take the first step Correct,
get out there.
So, wrapping up, I want to tryto connect some dots.
So how do health, spirit andpersonal development come
together to create a foundationfor long-term happiness?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's a good question, so we'll break it down
.
So if you can get yourself intoa point where you're feeling
vital, feeling energetic,feeling healthy, then the rest
will take care of itself.
So you'll be able to haveenergy to connect with spirit.
You'll be able to have energyto connect with your own spirit,
to connect with yourself on amuch deeper level.
Then you'll have the ability torediscover and remember who you
(46:57):
truly are, because you're morethan just that job title.
You're more than just thatlabel you have on yourself.
You're a soul having a humanexperience here and you're here
to do some pretty cool things,and it's remembering that.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Remembering that that makes sense.
With those building blocks,build the foundation and go from
there.
So what's the one piece that'salways tough, right.
One piece, what's one piece ofadvice you hope listeners take
away to live happier, morefulfilling lives.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
If you've listened to this podcast and you aren't
taking care of yourself, justremember you were not born this
way.
You were born pure love.
You flew out of the womb andyou had all of these influences
parents, friends, tv, music allthese influences shaped you.
Even the school system shapedyou and molded you into who you
(47:45):
are today.
And just ask yourself onequestion Is that true to you?
Because, as I said before, youweren't born this way.
You were manufactured this way.
The system did this.
You didn't do this.
You allowed them to do this.
Forgive yourself, find outwhat's true to you and whether
(48:06):
doing those things are actuallywhat you truly want to do at
heart.
And is it?
Is it due to the programmingthat you've had?
Did you, did you have thatalcohol program as a really big
one in your life?
Well, you didn't do that.
You allowed that to come in andthen you acted that out, that
(48:30):
you weren't born that way.
So it's untethering from thatand being like okay, who am I?
What's true to me and why am Ihere?
If you can answer those threequestions again, that success.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Mountain looks pretty good, Dang.
What are those three again?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Those three questions are is this true to me?
Before you pick up that bottleor put your hand down your pants
, or put your hand in the chippacket, is this true to me?
Am I doing that because myparents did that, or because my
mates do that, or because da, da, da, da, or because I'm
watching it all the time?
And then what's?
And then, hey, what do I say?
What's true to you?
(49:09):
Who am I and what am I doinghere?
you can answer those threequestions and untether look out
again that success moundslooking pretty good that's
awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
well, nathan, thanks for coming out like to ask the
listeners for feedback.
This, this podcast, will beeven better with your feedback.
Drop your thoughts or questionson instagram, facebook,
facebook, tiktok, youtube orBuzzsprout and thank you for
being part of the Mindforcejourney.
I love you all.
See ya, see ya later, thank you.
Hi everyone, I'm Nate Shearer and this is Mindforce,
a podcast for love, life andlearning, because your mind
matters most.
Today we have Nathan Francisand today we'll be talking about
his journey in health, spiritand personal development how
people can live happier lives,particularly our youth.
I gotta say Nathan's probablymy favorite guest so far because
(00:55):
he has the best name Love that.
So we'll start with the warm-up, the who, the what and the why.
Nathan, who are you, what doyou do and why are you here?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh no, thank you for having me Nate and, yes, very
awesome name too.
I'm Nathan Francis.
I'm from Australia, I'm 30years old, I've been on quite
the journey, as I'll share inthe next little bit, and I'm
here to help as many people as Ican unlock their innate human
potential and become the bestversions of themselves and step
out into the world as theirauthentic self.
And I've really narrowed thatinto the youth of today.
(01:26):
I feel like, with the socialmedia and all of these things
that they're distracted with,there's so many that we can talk
about as we go through.
It's just empowering them thatthey have the power and the
innate human potential inside ofthem, that they can do and be
anything and that they don'tneed to distract themselves with
all of these things.
So, yes, looking forward to theconversation today and that's a
(01:47):
bit about me and who I amLooking forward to delving
deeper into that as we go.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Awesome.
I got some good questions forthat.
That sparks a whole lot ofthings.
We'll start with a few warm-upquestions.
Get the conversation going.
What's a childhood memory orexperience that inspired your
focus on health and happiness?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's an interesting question.
I read your email earlier and Iwanted to answer this one.
So for me, as a child, I alwaysknew I had gifts and different
things inside of me, but I wasalways told that I shouldn't do
this or should shouldn't do that.
It was the moment that, well,what inspired the health journey
was the moment when I was 19,.
Actually, I wasn't 19, I was 26.
(02:26):
And I lived a very you could say, a very Australian lifestyle
the drinking, the partying andsleeping around and doing those
things.
And I remember I had the momenton a plastic fold-out table
talking to three young girls andI fell through that table and
that was my moment of are yougoing to continue down this road
or are you going to grow?
And that was.
I know I was 26, but that was avery profound moment.
But the childhood moment I'llgo with was when I was at school
(02:50):
.
I used to always ask questionsand I used to always question
things that were getting taughtin that and, yeah, I didn't
really buy the whole foodpyramid thing.
So that sort of started thehealth stuff.
But as I sort of grew up, Ijust sort of followed what
everyone else was doing anddidn't really delve into that
space too much until I was in mylate 20s.
(03:11):
So, yeah, I've got a lot ofchildhood memories, but that's
always one that I was alwayswanting to question everything.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, good stuff.
What's one piece of life adviceyou'd give to your teenage self
, going back to when you wereyounger?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
yeah, another good one it would be.
I love you and that you aresafe and that you are very
powerful and you can do somepretty awesome things with the
right mentor, the right help andwith everything that's been
going on in your life.
You are worthy and you areenough is what I'd say to that
teenage self.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So, as you were drinking and things like that,
was it to have fun or do youthink it was a deeper root cause
, where you were drinking to tryto avoid other things, or what
do you think that was for solong?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, it's a good question because when I was
younger, it was all about havingfun.
Alcohol was a very prominentthing here in Australia all the
sports stars.
It's a good question becausewhen I was younger, it was all
about having fun.
Alcohol was a very prominentthing here in Australia all the
sports stars, it's all on the TVand all in the sporting arena,
and I watched a lot of sport andthey were all doing their thing
outside of that.
So there was that programmingas well.
There was also surrounded bypeople within my family that
drank a lot, so that was alwaysa big program for me too.
(04:21):
But it started off as fun whenI was 18, but then it became an
escape and then it became a bitof a problem.
So, yeah, it started off funand then it became a problem,
and that problem came to a headin 2021 and I looked myself in
the mirror and said no more, andI haven't had a drink since and
my life has only gotten bettersince.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, I always wonder .
So I'm military and so we havea lot of things that revolve
around it and just sointeresting because it's based
on history and culture andthings like that, and I think
there's you know, some goodabout it coming together and
having a drink together andwhatnot.
But it is odd to me thatthere's so many things like
every promotion, every ceremony,everything like has to start at
(05:08):
the bar.
It's like could we just, youknow, focus on the people that
were there to talk about and,you know, congratulate, and does
it really have to be all aboutthe drinking all the time?
So sometimes I wonder if weshould take a step back and I'm
sure that's probably blasphemyand people would be mad that we
would drink less but like that'snot the reason you're there.
You're there for the people thatare promoting or winning an
award or you know whatever it is, and the first thing is like
(05:31):
when are we going to hit the bar?
So it is an interesting thing.
I think it is fun, but I wonder, like you said, like when does
it switch from fun to being, youknow, more of a problem, where
it's like in every single thingthat we do and we have to go do
it.
Maybe it should be somethingseparate, but I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well, I believe that it starts when we're young.
In that age group of zero tosix, we're picking up a lot of
oh not a lot of our subconsciousprogramming.
And if alcohol was a veryprominent thing inside our
household and on the TV on arepetitive level I always talk
about it's like going to the gym.
If you want to build muscle andbuild strength in your arms and
your upper body or anywhere inthe body, you need to do the
(06:10):
reps and go there consistently.
It's the same with your mindtoo.
If you've been programmed andyou've been watching movies like
American Pie and watchingCharlie Sheen in Two and a Half
Men, all these drinking TV showsand movies, and then your
parents and your friends offriends parents, friends are all
drinking alcohol, then you'rebeing exposed to that on a
subconscious level.
(06:31):
You're watching people drink,you're hearing things and you're
downloading that as a programand you're going to play that
card as a safe card in society.
When you grow up, you're goingto be surrounded by a very
similar tribe to your parents,because we're pack animals.
We mirror, mimic and copy eachother.
If the people around us aredoing those things, we're more
(06:52):
inclined to do those things on asubconscious level, because
we're all about finding safetyand comfort inside the tribe and
doing things to fit in, toblend in, to go along and get
along.
That's why we do it Then itbecomes a problem because if you
watched your parents deal withtheir problems, deal with their
stress and deal with their stuffand they were doing it through
alcohol and through all thesethings you're more inclined to
(07:14):
deal with those problems theexact same way.
Why?
Because you're exposed to thatas a child.
You are watching that, you arehearing that it's a safe card
for you to play.
We'll just deal with that overhere the same way my parents did
.
That's how this all works, andif you're watching TV shows and
moves with it in as well, you'rejust getting more reps, more
repetition and more safe cardsto play in society.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That's interesting because it's just so deep rooted
in there You're like oh no, Idon't.
I don't have a problem, I don'thave this.
But, like you said, it's goingall the way back through that
childhood.
So even though you don't, youknow, believe it, or it's not
the forefront of it, it's thereall the time, sinking in farther
and farther.
So that's, yeah, that's prettypowerful.
The last question I had for youis what's a simple daily habit
(08:01):
that instantly brightens yourmood or boosts your health?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I have two.
I've narrowed it down to two soI always do a meditation when I
wake up in the morning and begrateful for where I am and be
grateful and be open to whateverthe day is going to bring, and
then I go down to the gym andthat's been a really good habit
of mine, too is really buildingmy physical strength and
building my physical health,because that's one of the main
pillars of strength that Ialways focus on.
Health is the foundation of alllife success.
(08:28):
If you're not healthy, youdon't have the energy or the
vitality to do the things youwant to do each day.
If you can get your healthright, then the rest of the
pillars will follow.
Health is the foundation.
I do that physically and I goin the gym and I'm always
testing myself and pushingmyself through my own limits and
through my own blocks tocontinue to grow and evolve.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think that's perfectly inline with what I'm trying to do
on the show and why I named itlike mental fitness and things
like that.
I love that you combine themeditation with the physical
because I think for the longesttime it's been a separate thing,
which is just so bizarre to mebecause the brain resides within
the head.
You know it's part of the body,but it's for some reason we've
(09:12):
seen mental health as this youknow, separate part, and it's
like, okay, well, I'll work onthat at a later time, or most of
the time I feel like we waitand only work on it when it's
the worst, you know, the worstthat it's ever been.
We wait for the worst day.
And it's just so bizarre to mebecause exactly what you said
like you work on your buys andtries and work on that because
(09:33):
you want to consistently getbetter, and so the same way we
should be working on our minds,if that's meditation or
journaling or you know, you knowpushing through and trying
something new.
But it's weird that we'll justwait until it's a really bad day
and then go to, you know, thecounselor.
But we need to do thatconsistently.
It shouldn't wait until it'sthe worst day.
You need to be offloading andgetting rid of some of that
(09:54):
stuff as you go.
So awesome, awesome advicebetween the balance between
physical and mental health.
Well, uh, uh, before we jumpinto the interview, I wanted to
see if you had a question for me, and then we'll get started on
the rest of it yeah, whatinspired, what's what's been
your biggest inspiration in yourlife?
or who's inspiration?
(10:14):
I'm sure it's going to soundlike a pretty cheesy answer, but
I'm in like a leadershipposition at work and so my, my
inspiration is always the people, and it's the people getting
things done that they neverthought they could, and it's
just so powerful to me.
I know that, like it's supposedto be mission first and getting
(10:34):
the mission done, like I wantto get the mission done, but
that's not what's really cooland inspiring.
It's usually like somethingthat a person a certificate, a
degree, they tried to adopt akid or get married or you know,
fill in the blank of all theselife changes, something that
ultimately changed that person'slife forever that they thought
never was possible.
(10:54):
You know we sit down, figure itout, work through it, you know,
build up finances to accomplishit or whatever it may be, but
watching people accomplishthings will always be, you know,
the number one motivator for me, cause in those leadership
positions you have to deal withsome of the negative stuff
people getting in trouble andthings like that and so those
will kind of pull you down alittle bit.
But every time you get someonethat wins something or
(11:17):
accomplishes something, like itjust fills you all the way back
up and you're able to kind ofpress on.
But definitely when people areaccomplishing things.
There's just so many thingsI've seen where, when the good
news comes across like Facebookor wherever you see it you just
are completely filled becauseyou know that person, you built
a relationship with them andonce they're like accomplishing
things that they wanted to,sometimes even like move bases
(11:39):
you know we go in differentdirections or different states,
different countries, but I stillknow them and a couple of years
have gone by and you seesomething like hey, you know, I
was a part of their journeyalong the way and now they're
getting stuff done.
So there's just nothing betterthan that.
Love that answer yeah.
So we'll transition into yourjourney in health.
So can you share a pivotalmoment in your health journey
(11:59):
that reshaped your perspectiveon wellness?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I love that Good question.
So the pivotal start of myjourney through that space was
2020.
And I know a lot of people thatwork to the truth of the world
and sort of learn about what'sreally going on here, and I know
I'd went down those rabbitholes myself not sure how or
where or what level yourlisteners are on, but I went
down most of them and it waslike wow, okay, they're really
going after us here on ourhealth level and I just made
(12:27):
that transition from buying thecrap food to buying the organic,
fresh, farmer's market food andI made that conscious choice
and it just gave my body more ofa chance to reset itself,
eating that more quality of food.
And I worked out that it's onlya dollar or two extra a kilo
(12:50):
and he added up over time.
If you're treating your bodythat way this is what I always
say if you're treating your bodylike a garbage bin, well then
eventually that's going to costyou more over time as you get
sicker and sicker.
But if you can take care ofyour health as of right now and
make that switch, you'reactually saving yourself
(13:11):
thousands of dollars down theroad, and I know a lot of people
in society aren't thinkingabout long-term, it's all about
short-term.
It's like if we can change ourand expand our minds and our
consciousness and think aboutthe long-term, that's when we're
going to have some real shiftshere, Because at the moment
everyone's just in this box,focused on the here and the now,
(13:32):
not focusing on two, three,four, five, six, 10 years down
the road, and that's on alllevels of life, not just health.
But for me it was making thatconscious choice of hang on a
minute.
They're spraying this food withherbicides and pesticides that
aren't really good for us.
I'm just going to go over hereand see what these farmers
markets are doing and buyingsome fresh organic produce and
(13:52):
then supporting those localfarmers that are getting shunned
by the big companies, like herein Australia it's Coles and
Woolies, America's Costco.
It's like turn your back onthose supermarkets, on those big
chains, and go down to yourlocal market and support your
local farmer that's gettingshunned by those people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So that's what I do.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So what was that change?
Was it someone that was alsodoing it, or did you see
something in the news, or whatwas it that you're like, hey,
I'm going to go to the farmer'smarket.
You just woke up one morning.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I read a book called how to Eat, move and Be Healthy.
It's the Bible of Health byPaul Cech.
That's C-H-E-K.
He runs the biggest holisticwellness institute in the world,
based in LA, california.
If any of your listeners want acopy of that book, I suggest
going on and putting in theGoogle C-H-E-K Institute and
you'll find that book and all ofthe programs.
(14:42):
Paul Cech is awesome andreading that book changed my
whole view on the physicalhealth and what we should be
putting in our bodies A lot ofmuscle testing.
In that book you can reallytrain your body to understand
what sort of food that it wantsand what it needs.
And if you need more protein,you need more da-da-da-da.
That book is the Bible ofHealth and I suggest everyone
(15:03):
reads that book and that willtransform their health on the
physical level.
So I read that book and thatchanged my life.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Hey, it sounds like a good book.
So did you see a change inenergy levels and things like
that?
Was it immediate?
Did you have any sort of likeyou know?
Did it feel bad to switch overinitially?
Or what was that transitionlike when you switched over to
better whole foods?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I could instantly feel a shift in my body.
I could instantly feel thatwhat I was eating was growing
with love and growing with a lotof love.
And I could feel that energy asI was consuming that food,
because I feel like we're allenergy and food's energy as well
.
If you're walking into a, intoa big chain supermarket, a lot
of people that are putting thefood out and they're working
(15:49):
there don't like their job, sothey're pouring that energy into
the food, so you're eating thatnegative energy at a very base
level.
Then you got those farmers thatare probably getting on and
getting paid and being told topoison their food and all that.
So you're eating, eating thisreal negative energy.
You switch over here and you dothis.
Those farmers are loving theirjob, they're loving what they're
growing, they're loving comingto the market every Saturday
(16:11):
morning.
They're all bright and cheery.
They're all saying, hey, howare you going?
Asking about your day?
And you're eating thatvibration, that energy.
You're eating thatconsciousness.
You're eating a better energyrather than going into a place
where no one likes their job,and that negative energy.
So for me, I was feeling morevibrant, feeling more vital on a
(16:32):
physical level, just frommaking that one switch.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, it's wild how like perspective can change so
much.
There's a short book I readcalled the Fred Factor and the
guy talks about how when peoplelook at you, know their jobs and
how they feel like things arecompletely different.
One of the examples he uses Ilove it's a guy that's in the
Solastic, so it's like a bigbook bookstore or whatever, over
(16:58):
in the United States and kidsgo there.
There's like a Selastic bookfair, so it's like once a
quarter or whatever, like thekids stop, they go to the
library and there's bookseverywhere and the kids love it
and it's crazy.
But he's talking to a guy thatdrives a forklift in the
warehouse and he asked the guywhat he does and you would think
he would say oh, I'm just theforklift driver, oh, I just do
this, and kind of downplay it.
(17:18):
And I guess he asked the guyand, without you know, skipping
a beat or anything, he says Ideliver the ability for kids to
read, love that.
It's like he is making thathappen.
He could have downplayed it.
I hate it.
Like I'm just a forklift driver, but no, he knows that he's a
piece of the larger thing andhe's getting books to kids and
(17:41):
so connecting yourself to likewhat you're doing.
I think is is really important,definitely.
Next question is what's achallenge you've overcome in
your health journey and how didit impact the way you help
others?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
it's interesting, this is more of a mental health
here.
So I watched a lot of porn whenI was growing up.
I started watching when I wasabout 8, 9, 10 and that took a
long time.
That's a lot of programming aswell on a sexual level.
You could understand the way Iwas treating women and what I
was doing in my life from about18 to 26.
(18:15):
That's the lifestyle I lived.
The root of that was the porn.
The amount of porn I waswatching.
That was my biggest challengeto overcome, because that's the
place where I ran to and Iwasn't feeling great.
It wasn't the alcohol, it wasthe porn.
I'd just go there and just I'dgo okay, I'm going to shut
everything out and just go andwatch that and consume that
(18:37):
content, because the internetgirlfriend is just the.
As a young boy it's like lookat that beautiful woman on your
screen and as a young boy you'redrawn to that.
So that little child in mewould always feel safe and
comfortable doing that ratherthan facing anything that was
going on in my life.
It was easy to quit the alcohol.
It was easy to quit the casualsex lifestyle.
(18:58):
It was easy to quit all thesethings.
But the one thing.
The one thing that I had wasthe porn.
The moment I made thatconscious choice to quit that,
to harness that energy and totransmute it out into the world
and into my life was the biggestgrowth moment for me, was
turning my back on that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So what was the transition point for that?
I'm curious.
Always in that transition point, like cold turkey, just never
again.
Or how did you transition, orwhat was that transition point?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
good question, because I called turkey
everything else and it was soeasy.
It was so easy to call turkeyalcohol and casual sex and all
these things.
Porn was hard because I wasalways drawn to it on it, like
there was a beautiful woman oninstagram, a beautiful woman on
facebook or I'm watching itsomewhere and I'm like for me it
was.
It was allowing myself to letthat resistance get longer and
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be okay with the fact that I maygo back at some point.
So early on it was, if I canjust get through a week, give
myself a pat on the back,awesome.
And then it just grew fromthere progression or perfection.
I just kept inch by inch,little by little.
Yeah, there were moments whereI'd just binge on it and just
watch two or three videos a dayor whatever.
But over time the resistancegot longer.
(20:15):
So a week turned into threeweeks and a week turned into a
month, and then it turned intotwo months and then, inch by
inch by inch by inch, it gotlonger and longer and longer.
That was the way I could breakit.
But then I was also askingmyself the questions Okay, so
I've lasted this long, so whydid I go back?
What was I drawn to what wasgoing on in my life around this
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time that was drawing me backinto that content and it was
asking myself those deeperquestions to get the answer.
And it was always the sameanswer each time.
It's like you're seeking safetyhere.
That little boy just needs abit more love because
something's going on in yourlife and that's what you're used
to doing.
That was comfortable.
(20:56):
For me, being uncomfortable issomething that I have now
embraced.
I'm embracing being moreuncomfortable in situations in
my life so that I can grow more.
I find that a lot of people,including myself.
I was very comfortable in thelifestyle I was living and I
took that all away and was veryuncomfortable, but it allowed me
to grow and start what I'vestarted.
(21:17):
If I didn't do that, I'd stillbe who knows where.
So that's the answer to thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Spending a lot of time on something you don't need
to be using.
Using that time a little morewisely now, correct?
I wanted to ask.
This is going all the way back,but I was curious.
You said you would tell youryounger self that they are loved
.
Where does that stem from?
Throughout childhood, did younot feel that love?
Because so far you've you'vedropped the word love a few
(21:44):
different times, so how doesthat play into you know, your
childhood?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
well on my journey.
I went on a trip up thenortheast coast of australia
about two and a half years agoand I was on a kinesiologist
table and she, she saw me andshe saw me and she said
something happened to you whenyou were six and I went straight
there.
So this part of the mind, thesubconscious, remembers
everything and I always say it'sthe greatest love story ever
told.
This part of the mind wants tokeep you safe and it loves you.
(22:11):
Doesn't matter whether yourcontent's positive or negative,
it can't tell the difference.
It will just find a safe cardfor you to play and for me.
Card for you to play For me.
I was playing Lego on the floor.
My parents were in aparent-teacher interview with my
teacher.
I was in probably grade one orgrade two.
She was saying Nathan shouldn'tbe writing about the things
he's writing about.
I'd write fantasy, comic stuff.
(22:32):
I'd write being a hero, kickinggoals after sirens, hitting the
winning runs in cricket, beingthat hero.
I used to write that all thetime.
She said Nathan needs to bewriting what everyone else is
writing, the handwriting on theboard and all that rubbish For
me.
That shut off my ability towrite and to express myself.
For a long time I didn't do that, I just conformed with everyone
(22:56):
else.
I didn't know why.
It was the moment in time whenI went back to that child and
said Nathan, that's one person'sperception of who and what you
can be.
There are six billion people onthis planet, Nathan, there's
one person that's going toresonate with you, there will be
one.
I told him that and thatshifted so much on all levels of
my life because in the next sixweeks that followed from that
(23:16):
moment I wrote my book.
That book was there.
I just had to unlock that bytelling that little child
something else, because theteacher put a block there On an
energetic, subconscious level.
I went right, we're going totell that teacher to go jump
because we're not taking thatstory on anymore.
That's not my story, that's herstory.
I played that out in my life.
We're just going to forgiveyourself for allowing that
(23:37):
teacher to do that to you, tosay that to you.
Now we're going to go over hereand write your book.
And I did that in six weeks.
And then from there started thepodcast, started the business,
found my voice, I found mywriting ability.
It came back online and here Iam now.
That little child just neededto hear something else, so I
told it a different story.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's so crazy that one moment all the way back then
is so pivotal and can changethe trajectory of everything.
That's wild.
So what's the name of the bookand what's it all about?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So it's Breaking Free .
It's a teenager's and youngadult's guide to identifying
their addictions and overcomingthem.
It's a lot about my story fromwell.
I wrote it two and a half yearsago, so it was from my life
until 28.
So I wrote that for that timeof my life.
I put in there why peoplenecessarily do those things and
(24:30):
how their subconscious works,and then I wrote how I did it
and how it affected my healthand the tools that I used as
resources that helped me in thattime.
There's obviously more now, butI wrote it for that time and
those tools in there reallyhelped me through that period of
my life.
That was a bit of a struggle,but I'm very grateful for that
(24:51):
time in my life as well.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, it's always good.
I mean, sometimes we look atthese negative situations, but
it plays out for the reason thatit's supposed to, you know,
Correct?
I wanted to ask about thedrinking being in the military.
Like I said, you know, there'sa lot of social gatherings, a
lot of things like that.
Have you found trouble with it?
Like now that you don't andpeople cause, I feel like people
always want to be like, oh no,just have one, or they make you
(25:16):
feel some type of way.
Have you found like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
you know actionable tips and tricks to kind of not
make that as weird sometimes,yeah, so for me, I surround
myself with people that drank.
So I took myself out of thoseenvironments and out of those
places to work on myself.
And when you work on yourself,we're all energy and people are
energy as well.
So when you expand yourconsciousness, you work on your
health.
You then meet people that areon the same wavelength, the same
vibration as you and you'llfind people aren't doing the
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things that you used to do.
And for me, I was surroundingmyself with people that were
taking care of themselves, thatwere fathers and that were
husbands, and that's the life.
That's where I want to go now.
So I chose to surround myselfwith people that were building
what I wanted to build.
So I just took myself out ofone tribe and allowed myself and
be open to expressing andmeeting a new one.
(26:14):
Because we're pack animals sowe're going to find a tribe that
suits us.
But once we're consciouslyaware of the people that are
around us, I often ask in myquestionnaire when I send to
clients is who are your fivebest friends?
What are their weights and whatare their habits?
Because you are who yousurround yourself with.
If you're surrounding yourselfwith drinkers, smokers and
partiers, you're the drinker,smoker, partier too.
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If you're surrounding yourselfwith people that are sober, that
are taking care of themselves,then you're more inclined to do
that as well.
You are who you surroundyourself with.
People that are sober, that aretaking care of themselves, then
you're more inclined to do thatas well.
You are who you surroundyourself with.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's not just you, it's the people around you oh
yeah, that's powerful, andespecially the temptation I mean
you're removing it pretty muchall together, like if people are
all on the same page.
You don't even have to thinkabout getting pulled back
because that's not even in thein the room and not talking
about it but what really helpedme in that time though because I
was still playing some sportand drinking was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
so for anyone listening out there, a big thing
that helped me was that by mebeing different and by me not
drinking, I can help thosepeople, because when people are
drunk, they open up to you.
So I thought, well, I can go inthere and help people.
Yes, I can answer the questionwhat I don, why I don't drink
anymore.
I walked in there.
It was the first question Iasked first moment I walked into
the career club function.
(27:25):
It's like I don't drink anymore.
Why don't you drink anymore?
Well, these are the reasons whythis is the life I was living.
I was open about it and saidlook, I used to do these things.
I didn't like the way I wasacting when I was drunk.
I didn't like the way I wasacting full stop.
So it was partly because of thealcohol that helped them.
They're like oh, wow, that'sreally awesome.
(27:46):
But then I was able to connectwith them.
I was just drinking water, theywere drinking beers and stuff,
but then, as the night would goon, they'd tell me stuff,
personal stuff.
It's like well, I'm sober enoughto be able to help them in that
moment.
I'm not I'm not drunk with them.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Huh, that's interesting you were able to
find that way to connect.
Yeah, so you said that waspretty well received.
Everyone was all on board.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They weren't like, oh , you're just being a sissy and
this and that there was a few ofthose comments, but as you sort
of go on this journey, youdevelop a thick skin and those
comments just wash straight offyou yeah, and especially if
you're helping people, I feellike even you get some comments,
but you help a couple peoplelike the helping already makes
you feel better and you're justright back on track.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So even if you do get a little negative like hey, I
helped three people tonight likeI don't care the two comments
along the way I say to peopletoo is that you're gonna have
negative nullies out there, butyou're also gonna have positive.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's like focus on the people that you're changing.
I know that when you putyourself out there, you're
opening yourself up to commentsonline.
It's like, well, if they'recommenting on your stuff, think
about it like this the friendsof the friends of that person is
seeing your, they're coming onyour post.
So if it's not helping, tomdown down the road who said, oh,
(28:58):
you just being immature, go geta beer in you, or whatever they
say.
It's like, well, tom's friendsare saying that, so what if that
helps one of Tom's friends?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, helping people along the way, Absolutely.
The next question I have foryou how do you define a healthy
life beyond just physicalwell-being?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
This is a good question because I was talking
about the pillars before.
So once you get the physicalpillar right, then you can focus
on the mental, emotional andspiritual.
So the mental part is goinginto the mental gym and finding
content that inspires you ratherthan makes you go and do the
things that you don't want to do.
So finding empowering content.
Listening to my podcast,listening to your podcast, is a
(29:39):
good way to start.
And going into the mental gymand figuring out other things
that you're watching andlistening to.
Are they making your lifebetter or are they making your
life worse?
The mainstream music is allabout bending girls over.
It's all about sex.
It's all about money.
It's all about that lifestyle.
So if you're listening to musicthat's all about that, then
that's the lifestyle you'reliving lifestyle.
(30:00):
So if you're listening to musicthat's all about that, then
that's the lifestyle you'reliving.
Maybe find some empoweringmusic.
Listen to some 5-2-8-Hertz,listen to some empowering
podcasts, listen to someempowering stories, and then
that will change.
The TV shows you're watching areall about rape, torture, kill,
murder, sex, lying, cheating,stealing.
If that's the TV shows you'rewatching, that's what you're
going to act out in society.
(30:21):
Maybe turn your back on thoseTV shows.
That's the mental gym.
Then you need to go to theemotional gym.
Allow yourself to feel thesadness that you've held on to
for such a long, long, long,long time.
Because there's a real bigprogram out there amongst the
men of today's society, aroundthe age group of my father, of
don't ask for help's notcourageous, it's, it's not bold,
(30:43):
it's on a weakness, crying'sweak.
Well, we're here to flip thatscript.
Asking for help was the bestthing I ever did.
Crying was the best thing thatI ever did.
Feeling my emotions was thebest thing I did, allowing
myself to be like where's thissadness?
Why am I sad?
I'm gonna feel it, but thenfeel the other emotions,
allowing yourself to to feelgratitude, to feel joy, to feel
(31:05):
excitement.
So you're feeling all of theemotions.
You're coming in tune with yourbody.
That's the emotional, then thespiritual.
What are your boundaries?
Are you allowing people toinfluence you?
Like you're going to the pub,you're saying you aren't
drinking, yet you find yourselfdrinking because Joey said you
should be drinking tonight andthat you're weak if you don't.
So you leave your car there andyou get your car the next day.
(31:25):
How many times does that happen?
So what are your boundaries?
How powerful is the word no toyou?
If you're saying no and you'regoing against that, think about
it.
That's the spiritual on somelevel is using the word no and
then sticking to it, settingyourself some goals and then
achieving them.
That's the spiritual on onelevel.
(31:47):
If you can get those pillarsall going in the same direction,
that success mountain doesn'tlook as hard anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, which one do you think was the most difficult
for you to get in balance,mental and emotional?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
well, mental, for a start, because of what I was
talking about before, but alsothe emotional, you know, feeling
.
I was often, always angry.
I just didn't know why.
So allowing myself to feel thatanger and understanding why I
was so angry at the world.
But it wasn't just angry at theworld, it was a mirror, like
the universe the world is.
But it wasn't just angry at theworld, it was a mirror Like the
universe, the world is a mirror.
(32:23):
Right, I was angry at myself.
Because I was angry at myselfbecause I allowed all of these
things to happen in my life thatI didn't have control over.
So I went on a journey ofself-forgiveness and forgave
myself for allowing all this tohappen, to then move on and to
allow myself these opportunitiesto grow and evolve, to allow
myself these opportunities togrow and evolve.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that makes sense.
I want to jump into the livinghappier lives.
I think this is an awesome oneof your three main topics.
So what's one actionable tipyou'd recommend to youth today
who are struggling with stressor uncertainty?
It's a good question.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It is.
If you can find just fiveminutes in your day to switch
off that phone, to switch offthat TV, to take your headphones
out and just be still, that's agood place to start, because
you have computers, you havevideo games, you have TikTok,
you have phones, you have all ofthese things that will just
(33:23):
keep distracting you.
If you can just find fiveminutes to just ask yourself how
you're feeling, how you'regoing, and just connect with
yourself, take three deepbreaths, that's a good place to
start.
Or find something that bringsyou joy and just do that a
little bit more.
Whether it's reading that book,whether it's doing some writing
(33:47):
something creative, just dothat more, rather than sifting
through TikTok videos about catsand dogs and all this
meaningless that you'reconsuming.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, it's wild how much we consume that doesn't
really do anything.
I saw a study where they weretalking about scan people's
brains as they were watching tvand while they were staring at a
blank wall.
And your brain lights up morewhen you're staring at the blank
white wall, because it startsto think about patterns and
what's going on and how you'refeeling and all those things is
(34:19):
you don't have somethingprovided.
But once you have somethingprovided, your mind almost
entirely shuts off because it'sproviding all the plot, the show
, the whatever.
And so just staring at a whitewall on the side of your house
or whatever actually activatesyour brain more than the TV show
.
So, yeah, pause and take amoment.
I think that's one thing that'sso difficult right now.
(34:40):
We got Google.
You can get any answer you wantin a matter of seconds.
You can drive through food youget in a matter of minutes.
Everything is faster and faster.
But I really think we need tofind better ways of slowing down
.
Do you have any other ways ofslowing down?
And self-reflection?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, get a journal or get a book or just start
writing.
Just write or sing or justexpress yourself, because our
youth are very under theinfluence of being someone that
they're not to fit in.
If you can just let thoseinfluences go and just be you,
(35:18):
you'll still have the rightpeople come into your life.
Just find something creativeand just go and do it and that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I wanted to ask, when you first started talking about
social media, how do you talkto people and coach them through
like not believing everything?
You see, because I feel likeright now, the way that we're
set up, you show the family trip, you show the highlights, you
show all the good stuff.
I don't think very often wethrow up any negative or the
struggles or the challenges thatget to stuff.
(35:49):
You show the success, strugglesor the challenges that get to
stuff.
You show the success.
So how do you you know, asyou're working with youth and
things like that, how do you getthem to understand?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
that what they see is probably not accurate.
Yeah Well, that's the thing ishaving those conversations with
them and saying, well, noteveryone's life is what it seems
.
You know, social media can bevery fake and a lot of people
live double lives.
So it's like some of yourinfluences, how are they going
on the inside?
They might look good, theymight present themselves in a
(36:19):
certain way, but how are theygoing in their personal, private
lives?
And just having thoseconversations?
But also for me, allowing myselfto let them talk and let them
express and then having thatopen dialogue, because I find it
really important that with ouryouth, there's a lot of people
that they go and see, whetherit's friends or whether it's
therapists or counselors orwhatever it is.
(36:41):
Not many of them actuallylisten to what they're saying or
listen to their views or listento how they're feeling.
It's all about oh, here's someantidepressants, go and take
them and just see you later.
It's like I share my story andmy trials and my tribulations
and my failures with them, toallow them to share theirs, and
(37:02):
I hold that space for them.
I've jumped on many calls withyouth and all I've said is hello
and goodbye.
They just needed someone tobounce things off.
They needed someone just tolisten to them, because a lot of
people out there aren'tlistening to what they have to
say all their feelings.
So I just sit there and say hiand bye sometimes, and that is a
very profound thing, becausethey feel like someone can
(37:26):
finally listen to them and nothave any judgment.
I don't judge them for whatthey're doing, I'm just there to
help them.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, and I think it's important to meet people
where they're at.
I think that's something that'scommonly not done very well,
like when I have a flight or I'min a position of leadership at
some point along the way.
I don't do it initially becauseI don't want to freak everybody
out, but a few months intohaving the flight, I talk about
how, you know, I've gone througha divorce and I co-parent and I
lost my dad a few years ago andyou know, both my grandparents
(37:58):
and I bring up these things andit's I'm like I'm not trying to
be negative and pull things down, but I want you to know that at
any given time, if you need tocome to me like I've been
through some stuff, not sayingI've been through the same thing
, that's a whole.
Another thing I think people doLike I'm not trying to, you
know, say I've been through thesame thing and compare.
That's not the thought.
But the gap is not too big.
Bring me something, let'sfigure it out.
(38:19):
Either do you want me to try tofix it or do you want me to
just listen.
I think that's important to likefigure out what, because some
people just want and otherpeople you know the others don't
want you to solve it.
They want to work through itand process it.
But I think you know, being anormal person that's been
(38:41):
through some stuff, I think somepeople.
I know I've had leaders wherethey're like oh, open door, you
can swing by any time, but fromthe outside it always felt like
they were perfect.
I'm not bringing my problem tosomeone that's perfect, like
you've got it all squared away,and so I intentionally bring up
some of the negative things thathappen throughout my life and I
hope when someone does havetheir bad day, like they're
(39:01):
coming right in, they're notthinking a second.
You know about it.
Hey, nate's there.
You know we'll try to figure itout and move forward, but it
shouldn't be, you know, a big.
So I'm glad you brought up that.
You know bridging the gap andmeeting people where they're at,
I think that's super important.
How do you encourage youngergenerations to build habits that
promote both physical andmental well-being?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's, as I said before, finding those five
minutes to just to shut out thattechnological world, and I
encourage them to go to the gymor to exercise and to move their
bodies Because, as I said,we're all energy, we're designed
to move.
We aren't designed to have ourheads down with this poor
posture from looking at ourphones all day.
We aren't designed to sit atschool all day and learn things
(39:45):
that aren't necessarily thingsthat we should be learning and
we don't want to learn.
So I try and encourage them toget outside and move, just for
five or ten minutes a day, ifit's, and then building those
habits from there.
But it's also about asking themwhy aren't they moving?
Why are they choosing to dothese things and having those
conversations and asking themwhy, putting the spotlight back
on them and saying, well, okay,why aren't you moving?
(40:07):
Why don't you want to move?
And then getting to that issueand then ripping that route out
and going well, you actually canmove and you can do some pretty
awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, that makes sense, Solving it at the root.
I mean, if not, it's just goingto keep going or become some
other, you know negative thing.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Unfortunately, fortunately out there a lot of
uh, a lot of the youth have tohave a lot of parents that
aren't moving either.
So they're not.
They're not around people thatare exercising.
As I said, you are who yousurround yourself with.
If you're raising a family thatdon't move, you're 80 to 90
percent more likely not to movetoo, given the way the
subconscious mind pathway worksyeah, what you're used to.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Absolutely.
I love stories.
I think you know back tocaveman days.
That's how we passed thingsdown, and so I'd love to hear a
success story of someone youhelped and then you know how
their life was transformed forthe better.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, I've given out any personal details, of course
no, I pondered this questiontoday, so we'll call this client
of mine joey.
And he was on the brink ofgoing to that place, of not
being him any longer, and in sixmonths he has a full-time job
and has found love.
He's only 17, because all heneeded was someone to listen to
(41:27):
why he was angry, to why he wassad, but then having someone
allow him to feel that.
That's all I did.
I just listened, yeah that'sinteresting.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
You just open up when you work with me.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I show a lot of affirmations.
So I wrote him someaffirmations that were a lot of
I love you in there andunfortunately he wasn't able to
find those words to say tohimself.
But six months later he saidthat to himself and to a girl of
his age and he rang me and saidI've just told those three
words.
I said how's it feel?
(42:00):
He said I feel I just feel loveand he said it's such a
beautiful thing.
But all I did was listen.
That's all I did.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and one of my favorite quotes.
She says we're havingconversations all the time and
sometimes they involve otherpeople, so there's just that
inner dialogue is going all thetime.
You're talking to yourself allthe time, like you do have
conversations throughout the daywith other people, but from the
moment you wake up, you'retalking to yourself,
(42:49):
no-transcript.
What role has spirituality ormindfulness played in your
personal growth and happiness?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Well, when I fell through that table, that was the
start of the physical journeyof okay, why am I doing the
things that I'm doing, what aremy boundaries, what's the life
I'm living?
And I'll never forget the dayafter I fell off that table
Actually it was 5 o'clock in themorning, so it was actually a
few hours after that incidentthat I listened to a podcast
that my mentor was doing,talking about self-sabotage and
the subconscious mind and howwe're influenced and how we're
(43:21):
programmed, and I resonated withthat and I labeled myself the
king of self-sabotage.
Like anything good in my life,I'd push that self-destruct
button on an unconscious levelconscious level because I didn't
feel like I was worthy ofanything or anyone in my life.
So it was that podcast that Ilistened to really changed my
life, because four months laterI did his coaching program and I
(43:41):
was learning about thesubconscious and going on that
healing journey of theself-discovery of why I was the
way I was and how I was able tonavigate and reprogram and
change the trajectory of my life.
But it was also around that timewhere I dabbled in some
spiritual modalities such asReiki and quantum healing and
all these things, and I wasgetting all of these things
(44:02):
coming to me.
All this energy, all these pastloved ones, all these past
relatives, all these things werejust coming back to me, and
that opened up the spiritualside of my life of being okay.
Well, there's some energy here.
There are some things going onthat I've had going on since I
was a child and I shut that offbecause I was scared.
Well, I'm not scared anymore.
(44:22):
So, for me, meditating andslowing my mind down allowed me
to connect with myself andconnect with spirit.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.
What's a mindset shift orpractice that you found most
effective in fosteringresilience and balance?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's a good question.
For me, just having a visionboard of where I want to be in
six months, where I want to bein 12 months, and looking at
that every night and everymorning kept me focused, because
I wrote on there why I'm doingwhat I'm doing, who I'm doing it
for, and that reminded me of mywhy and why I'm getting out of
(45:04):
bed at 5 am to go to the gym,why I'm doing the things I'm
doing, why I'm speaking onplatforms like this.
It's to help inspire others, butalso to help inspire those
people that were just like mefour or five years ago.
So I have that written on mywardrobe and I look at it and go
well, if I'm feeling a certainway, I'll just go back and read
(45:25):
that and go hang on.
This is why you're doing whatyou're doing.
It's not just for you, it's forthe collective, it's for
humanity.
There's a bigger picture here.
You're here to do some prettycool stuff, so let's refocus
back onto what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
They got the good too , because I think motivation
will come and go, butconsistency has to be there, so
you can't have motivation everyday, just not the way it works.
So having that goal, I think,is really powerful.
Some of my best, some of mybest.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Some of my best gym workouts have been where I've
been feeling just like rubbishbecause I'll go in there and
I'll move the body, I'll liftheavier weights and I'll walk
out feeling like a million bucks.
Or I'll just go for a bike ride, or I'll go for a walk, or I'll
go swim excuse me, I'll go swimin the ocean, or I'll go just
take my shoes off and walk outin the bush, like that all just
(46:15):
calms me down.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, you never know which one it's going to be.
There could be a good one outthere.
You have to put those shoes onand take the first step Correct,
get out there.
So, wrapping up, I want to tryto connect some dots.
So how do health, spirit andpersonal development come
together to create a foundationfor long-term happiness?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's a good question, so we'll break it down
.
So if you can get yourself intoa point where you're feeling
vital, feeling energetic,feeling healthy, then the rest
will take care of itself.
So you'll be able to haveenergy to connect with spirit.
You'll be able to have energyto connect with your own spirit,
to connect with yourself on amuch deeper level.
Then you'll have the ability torediscover and remember who you
(46:57):
truly are, because you're morethan just that job title.
You're more than just thatlabel you have on yourself.
You're a soul having a humanexperience here and you're here
to do some pretty cool things,and it's remembering that.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Remembering that that makes sense.
With those building blocks,build the foundation and go from
there.
So what's the one piece that'salways tough, right.
One piece, what's one piece ofadvice you hope listeners take
away to live happier, morefulfilling lives.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
If you've listened to this podcast and you aren't
taking care of yourself, justremember you were not born this
way.
You were born pure love.
You flew out of the womb andyou had all of these influences
parents, friends, tv, music allthese influences shaped you.
Even the school system shapedyou and molded you into who you
(47:45):
are today.
And just ask yourself onequestion Is that true to you?
Because, as I said before, youweren't born this way.
You were manufactured this way.
The system did this.
You didn't do this.
You allowed them to do this.
Forgive yourself, find outwhat's true to you and whether
(48:06):
doing those things are actuallywhat you truly want to do at
heart.
And is it?
Is it due to the programmingthat you've had?
Did you, did you have thatalcohol program as a really big
one in your life?
Well, you didn't do that.
You allowed that to come in andthen you acted that out, that
(48:30):
you weren't born that way.
So it's untethering from thatand being like okay, who am I?
What's true to me and why am Ihere?
If you can answer those threequestions again, that success.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Mountain looks pretty good, Dang.
What are those three again?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Those three questions are is this true to me?
Before you pick up that bottleor put your hand down your pants
, or put your hand in the chippacket, is this true to me?
Am I doing that because myparents did that, or because my
mates do that, or because da, da, da, da, or because I'm
watching it all the time?
And then what's?
And then, hey, what do I say?
What's true to you?
(49:09):
Who am I and what am I doinghere?
you can answer those threequestions and untether look out
again that success moundslooking pretty good that's
awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
well, nathan, thanks for coming out like to ask the
listeners for feedback.
This, this podcast, will beeven better with your feedback.
Drop your thoughts or questionson instagram, facebook,
facebook, tiktok, youtube orBuzzsprout and thank you for
being part of the Mindforcejourney.
I love you all.
See ya, see ya later, thank you.
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