July 12, 2024 ⢠30 mins
How would you feel if iPhones were banned at your workplace? Could TikTok really replace Google? Join us as we explore a fascinating study by Adobe that reveals surprising shifts in consumer behavior. Our discussion doesn't stop there! We'll confront the epidemic of loneliness in America. Is technology bringing us together or driving us apart?
Can today's youth recognize genuine human interactions through digital noise? The urgent need to address the severe health consequences of loneliness, such as cardiovascular issues and rising suicide rates, is underscored. But there's hope. The older generations can play a crucial role in guiding the young toward valuing face-to-face connections while building meaningful relationships.
From the latest advancements in VR and augmented reality to privacy concerns surrounding the new iPhone features, we've got you covered. Ashton shares his excitement about the Z Flip 5, and we even ponder the implications of an iPhone ban in workplaces. Don't miss our thought-provoking debate on technology's double-edged sword and the tantalizing possibilities of the metaverse. Remember to send in your thoughts and questions for a chance to be featured in our upcoming live metaverse episode!
Links Mentioned During Episode:
- 5 Tips for Managing Your Business Social Media AccountsÂ
- TikTok Rise & Discovery
- Epidemic of Loneliness & Isolation Article
- Metaverse Release Notes
- Windows Wifi Vulnerability
- iPhones Update & Ban Threat
- New Horizons Podcast
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So today I'm going to be talking about whether TikTok
is the new Google.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I want to talk about the epidemic of loneliness in
America.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I'm going to be talking about is the news that's
happening in VR and augmentedreality.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I'm going to be covering major Windows Wi-Fi
vulnerabilities.
And how would you feel if yourworkplace banned iPhones?
And how would you feel if yourworkplace banned iPhones.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, everybody.
Well, welcome to the MindfulBytes podcast.
I am Brian, your Gen X businessleader.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I am Olivia, your social media savvy and sassy
millennial.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Olivia's got the longest title ever on here.
Yeah, really On this podcast.
So we'll have to wrap it upAfter this.
We'll go ahead and wrap it up.
Yeah, really, on this podcast,so we'll have to wrap it up
After this we'll go ahead andwrap it up.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's over.
Hey, I'm Shauna and I am yourXenial Digital Dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I always forget about the dinosaur part.
I'm Ashton, I'm the Gen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Z that's interested in the technicals and the
gimmicks of today's tech.
Hey, so I want to encourageeverybody that's listening to
text us your thoughts orquestions throughout the episode
.
Just look at the show notes.
You're going to see a linkthere that says text us.
So that's called our fan mailand what we're going to do is
every month we're going to hosta live episode from the
metaverse and we're going toread through that fan mail.
So make sure you send us yourthoughts and questions using
(01:21):
that text link.
All right, so let's go aheadand dive in.
Okay, you said don't say divein.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No dive in.
Dive in is my normal thing.
I know you use it too much.
You got to switch it up.
I use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Why don't you say something like let's go ahead
and expand on those topics,Olivia, go ahead and get us
started?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Something like that Okay, I yeah, okay, I'm just,
I'm just thinking it's alwaysfunny when you're sitting there
and you're trying to generatethat sentence in your head and
you're just kind of sittingthere looking at the camera and
you're like, oh, I don't want tobe right here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
All of you should not look at me at any point during
this interview because I'm so onthe verge of cracking up that
I'm like trying to look down andnot smile.
And then I look at Ashton.
He's smiling.
I know he's looking at me.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right.
So I think I'm good now.
All right, so, as a Gen X, Iwant to kind of paint a picture
here as we dive in now, not divein, oh, stop saying the word
dive in.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I'd love to be a swimmer.
I heard it, I heard it coming.
I heard it coming.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All right.
So as a Gen X, I guess I'mgoing to go ahead and transition
this into what we call thetopic spotlight.
So imagine yourself, if youhave a good imagination, you're
moving that light.
It's probably a squeaky oldlight, Probably on you
millennials.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
you probably just turn on your flashlight on your
phone.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But we're going to go ahead, gonna just shine some
light onto the topics that we'regonna be talking about.
What's the one thing you wantto talk about?
What the heck?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't think we should be talking about
generations in every singlesentence you know what I'm
saying?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
that was it's too much.
People are gonna get annoyedabout it.
Okay, all right, all right youdove overboard you told me
everything I can't say now, sothis is is making it really
tough.
All right, sorry about that.
All right, so let's go ahead.
And just how am I going to saythis?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He was so close to saying it again.
Let me give it a try.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Brian, you can say so many different things.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Let mom try.
Go ahead, okay.
So why don't we go ahead andexpand on those topics?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Olivia, you want to get us started?
Not really, but I will.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, I need to do it.
I think I need to do it Let metry it again, because you're our
host.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I know yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
All right, so let's go ahead and switch on over to
the spotlights of these topics.
Olivia, you want to get usstarted?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yes, absolutely You're all good, you're all good
.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay.
So I'm really excited to talkabout this because, just letting
you all know, tiktok is mynumber one social media platform
.
It has my heart, um, and sowhen I read this article that um
, adobe did hold on, I'm gettingtoo wordy.
(04:12):
How in depth of things do you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
want.
No, this is the now, this isthe podcast.
So feel free to go in depth asyou want and then just turn it
over to us.
Uh, because I already have somethoughts on it, but go ahead
and turn it over to us whenyou're ready.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I already have thoughts on it.
Yeah, I'm going pretty in-depthinto part of mine.
Same here.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So I mean this podcast episode can be 45
minutes an hour long, I don'tcare, as long as we want to make
sure it's valuable to thosethat are listening.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, cool.
So TikTok has my heart.
So when I came across thisarticle from social media today,
it caught my attentioninstantly, and it is talking
about how more and more peopleare turning to TikTok to learn
about new products, trends andthings like that, trends and
(05:02):
things like that.
So Adobe, of all places, did ahuge survey.
They surveyed 808 consumers and251 business owners about how
they're using the platform andthis fits along well.
I am bringing up the breakdownof generations again, because
(05:25):
they did yeah, that makes sense,that's good.
So they broke it down bygenerations and how they're
currently using TikTok.
Know gen z, which would beashton um 64 of them trust
(05:48):
tiktok over google to discovernew things.
So that's one in ten gen zers sothat's a pretty high number, um
, and I was actually surprisedby this just overall.
But 49% of millennials are alsousing TikTok as more of a
(06:12):
search engine than Google, andthen the numbers go down from
there.
So 29% of Gen X and then youhave 14% boomers Wow.
So, yeah, I mean.
What do you all think?
And then you have 14% boomersWow.
So yeah, I mean.
What do you all think?
People are going onto TikTok todiscover new things Basically
(06:36):
your day-to-day.
What do you think?
The number one thing that itsaid people search for on TikTok
.
I was a little surprised bythis.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is it cleaning tips?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
No, but that's how I started into TikTok.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Dance moves.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
No, but that's what really helped to get it popular
in 2020.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Do you have any ideas , Ashton?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well, it's recipes's recipes recipes yeah, that's a
good point.
I've used it for that so yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
so what are, what are your all thoughts?
Do you think that tiktok couldever actually take over google
as the most kind of used searchengine?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hmm, well, let me ask you a few questions before I
answer.
Um.
Do you feel like there's a good, uh, kind of spread of
knowledge, like, do you seeTikToks about?
Um, all sorts of differentthings like about, um, I don't
know, for instance like remediesfor sickness, or yeah or like
(07:49):
yeah, because that's what.
I'm thinking is like if it's notjust trendy things, I could see
it happening.
I mean, you know platforms areconsistently going to take over
each other, you know, in thefuture.
So I mean, google might notalways be where people go to
search things.
So I could see it happening.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, that's a really , really good thought and the
thing about it is, when I waslooking, they had a pie, a pie
chart in the article ondifferent things that people
were searching for, and most ofthem are, you know, people
(08:28):
looking for things to make theirlives better, like trying to
find things that improve theirlives and things like that.
So a lot of businesses.
Are we talking specificallyabout Christian radio or no?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, we're not talking specifically Christian radio.
This is for anybody, and Idon't know if anybody else
noticed, but Olivia froze up onme.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, we all noticed she frees up on you guys.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, because I didn't hear anything what she said.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, so what I think happened though at least what
it seemed like to me is that shecame back in talking where she
stopped, and then it speeded upbecause her lips weren't lined
up with what she was saying.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I know what you mean.
We didn't have that.
I didn't see that.
I know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I didn't see that.
So, olivia, if you can startyour comment, whatever your
response was, then start itagain, because I don't know how
to respond if we can't hear whatshe's saying.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I see that Sure go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, this is not for Christian broadcasters, for
anybody that's dealing withdigital stuff, so there is no
audience specific like that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Okay, yeah, shauna, that is a great question.
In the article that I waslooking at, they had a pie chart
of the different things thatpeople are searching for on
TikTok and I noticed the trendon there was that people are
really looking for things tomake their lives better, easier
(09:49):
or just different things likethat.
So I think that, as a businessor a marketer, it doesn't matter
what type of company or productyou have.
There really is a lot ofopportunity there.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So my thought would be this I see what Adobe like
their research and stuff, whatthey came up.
Those numbers are veryinteresting to hear that, the 64
, 47% and all that.
I'm sorry you Xenials didn'teven make the list, but I'm sure
you fall under somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They probably were a micro generation A micro
generation yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So, that means you don't count?
No, I'm sure you fall in theresomewhere.
They probably want a microgeneration.
A micro generation, yeah.
So that means you don't count?
No, I'm just joking.
Make sure you edit that out oreverybody will hate me on this
podcast.
Cancel it.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Someone's got to be the main one.
Cancel it, cancel it.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I would you know, when I think about what's
replacing Google, I'm reallyleaning more towards AI.
What's replacing Google?
I'm really leaning more towardsAI, like I I'm curious, like,
compared to tick talk versus AIlike chat, gpt and stuff, are
people more using those type ofservices over Google than tick
(10:57):
tock, like?
I think that I could see thattoo, but I could see the point
with TikTok too.
So I think it's maybe we'rehaving brand new versions of
search engines.
I guess not brand new versions,but how about?
I guess we're kind of are wetransitioning into an era where
we have different types ofsearches that are being done,
like some of the video searches,like they want to see it, but
(11:18):
if they're just looking for thatknowledge, the AI like chat,
gpt is a great source to findstuff so quickly and get answers
.
What's your thoughts on that,olivia?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So the article also had a chart of different search
engines, and chat GPT wasactually higher than Yahoo,
which I don't know like startingout on the internet, I was
always like a Yahoo searchengine person, but now that's
(11:49):
not even something that mostpeople would use as their search
engine.
But the in regards to the funnything about it is um yeah,
(12:09):
they're using it to learn how touse chat GPT.
So when more people learn it,maybe it will really skew the
numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So so maybe TikTok should ban any how to videos on
chat GPT, cause they could befeeding their competitor.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They're not.
They're not Mark Zuckerberg,they're not scared.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
All right, Olivia, so let's goahead and transition.
What is the next topic that youwant to spotlight?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So this is coming from like there isn't any like
oh, breaking news, but this issomething that I've experienced.
Really a significant amountwith the clients that we work
with is people having to eithershut down accounts and start
(12:58):
from scratch or not gettingaccess to their accounts because
they signed up with a emailaddress that they no longer have
access to.
So I wanted to bring this upbecause there has been a
significant amount of timewasted in figuring out these
(13:23):
problems and you know we're allbusy.
So I just wanted to kind ofbring up the fact that you
should always have a designatedemail address for your social
accounts.
Have it be like social at.
You know, whatever your businessis that multiple people have
(13:47):
access to when you're setting upyour accounts, do not have them
connected to say, just yoursocial media person that you
hired or something like that.
And also be very, very mindfulof who you're giving admin
access to, because you know I'vealso seen where someone was an
(14:08):
admin and they got a spam likenotification.
They freaked out, they clickedon it and then they ruined I
mean they the page got messed upbecause of clicking on this
link.
So I just wanted to remindeverybody to be, like, mindful
(14:30):
of how you set up your accounts,who is getting access to them.
And the cool thing is there'sactually going to be a blog on
killer B marketing's websitewith more in depth details on
how you can do this.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Go check out our blogs.
That's great.
Do it.
Do it Right now.
No, finish listening to theepisode first.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
No, it was.
That's why I picked this topic,because it's going to be my
blog for June Awesome so Iwanted them to go.
Yeah, no, I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I love it.
Well, and I know, olivia, thatyou've worked with some people
already Some people I thinkwe've worked with that took
almost six months to get backcontrol of their Facebook pages,
because of this.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, we know how.
Meta's customer service isNon-existent.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Top notch, yeah, oh yeah, on opposite day.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, on opposite day yes.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
On opposite day.
That's good, yeah, that's good.
So, yeah, keep an eye out forthat blog.
And if you're listening to thisand you're like, yeah, we're
dealing with the same thingright now, we need help.
You can also just click thelinks in the show notes and
schedule a consulting sessionwith Olivia as well, so we're
here to help you guys in thosejams.
I mean, she loves doing that,don't you love you?
Just love that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, I've learned a lot, so it's very like nice to
be able to say like when peopleare freaking out, it's like
don't worry, you're not the onlyone, we've helped others do
that as well.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And I would love to encourage anybody if you guys
have dealt with any of thesestruggles or you have thoughts
about the TikTok buzz thatOlivia was sharing with us,
please make sure you send us atext.
We want to hear your thoughtsand hear your questions as well,
so we can talk about it laterin our fan mail.
So let's go ahead andtransition over to.
Let's go ahead and transitionto the dinosaur here.
Let's go ahead and transitionto Shauna Sha, to the to the
(16:28):
dinosaur here.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's go ahead and transition to Shauna.
Shauna, what's your?
Let's go ahead and dive intoyour topic spotlights that you
brought to the class.
Okay, so, like I said, I'mdigging into this 2023 Surgeon
General Report.
That's about the epidemic ofloneliness in America and
actually I had heard you knowkind of word about it floating
around, but I came across thisarticle that really caught my
attention and it was calledsomething along the lines of the
(16:52):
epidemic of loneliness and thesurprising antidote.
So that's what I'm going totalk about on our next podcast,
but first I want to dive in towhat even this report is saying
and kind of get to the bottom ofthe causes and things like that
.
So this is what was fascinatingto me.
So it's actually called theepidemic of loneliness and
(17:13):
isolation.
And, um, basically whathappened was the surgeon general
did a tour around the countrytalking to people about what
they were dealing with, whattheir problems were in their
life, things like that, and hefound that people were talking
about the same things over andover, and what it came down to
essentially, is that people feelisolated, they feel invisible
(17:35):
and they feel insignificant.
And so he said even if someonecouldn't put their finger on the
word lonely, like they'refeeling lonely.
It all came down to that, allof the different things that
people were feeling concerningfeeling insignificant, invisible
.
It all came down to a lack ofsocial connection.
And so, you know, a line reallystuck out to me in this report
(18:00):
and it said you can be lonelyeven with a lot of people around
you, because loneliness isabout the quality of your
connection.
So the report is very in-depthabout how things have changed in
our country that arecontributing to this epidemic of
loneliness.
There's a lot of thingscontributing and a lot of this
(18:20):
research was done before COVID.
So, although COVID hasdefinitely made things worse.
It was a problem before that.
So I wanted to put that outthere right away so that people
don't think, oh yeah, well,that's all COVID's fault, it's
not.
This has been going on for alot longer than that.
Um, but the thing I wanted tokind of focus in on today, since
this is kind of what we'retalking about and what the
podcast is about, is the waysthat technology are contributing
(18:44):
, contributing to this epidemic.
So there are pros and cons, ofcourse, to using technology.
We all know that and I don'twant to diminish the pros and to
, um, you know, take away fromthe fact that you can use
technology in such a healthy wayand you can use it to stay
connected with your family andyour friends and learn things,
(19:07):
and so, even though I am adigital dinosaur, I don't want
you to think I'm saying that weshould not use technology.
My whole point, and even beingin this podcast, is just to
encourage us to use it in ahealthy way, and so some of the
harms that they're finding andI'm sure you've heard about some
(19:27):
of these, but it's kind of hardto like apply these to your own
life, I think, because you knowif you just think about it in
passing.
You might think like, oh, thisisn't hurting me, I'm using this
right, I'm using it in a greatway, it's not going to take away
from my life in any way.
But listen to what some of theharms that they have listed Um,
technology that displacesin-person engagement has anyone
(19:50):
done that before?
Like, cancel an outing with yourfriends and just stay at home
on your Facebook or whatever.
Um, uh, technology thatmonopolizes your attention we
all know that that's kind ofwhat it's designed for a lot of
these social platforms.
They want to keep you there.
Or a technology that reducesthe quality of your interaction
(20:11):
or diminishes your self-esteem.
So right away you can recognizehow all of those can happen in
your life, and especially if wethink about the younger
generations.
No-transcript, like 70 yearsago.
(20:48):
That's a shocking stat.
And another one is that 33% ofadults 18 and over describe
their own online activity asbeing online almost constantly.
They didn't have a number thatI came across for the younger
generations in that, but I wouldimagine it would have to be
even higher.
So I bring all that up to saywhat do you guys think about
(21:09):
this idea that a platform, orreally all sorts of platforms
that really, I think in thebeginning were meant to help us
connect better could actually becontributing to us being more
lonely.
What are your thoughts aboutthat?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think, with just what you're saying and that
quote, which was really good.
I have recently spent two weekswith my 13, well, 14-year niece
and 15 year old nephew and I'mwondering if that generation
even really knows what trueconnection is anymore.
(21:54):
Like you know, because ifyou're talking about having
quality time to have a trueconnection, do they even know
what that really is?
Because they're chasing likesand things like that.
So that's what I was thinkingof of like has the definition of
(22:15):
connection changed and they'regoing to be searching for
something that they're nevergoing to achieve.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I think what's probably even more dangerous
building off of that isplatforms that are built
specifically to basically be themiddleman when you interact.
We saw the explosion of thatover COVID of Discord getting I
think it was 27% if I'mremembering correctly.
Was uh 27 if I'm rememberingcorrectly.
(22:47):
Uh, of a user base increase, itwas quite a big percentage.
Um, so discord was a big placefor gamers.
Um, we had zoom for all theschools and stuff.
Uh, we had all these thingsthat was simulating that
interaction, but it's still notquality time.
It's not you sitting next tothe person doing anything, it's
(23:08):
you're still through technology.
I think that's probably one ofthe most dangerous things out of
that, because it's stillsimulating that behavior I think
this is a great thing to talkabout, too.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Is us from older generations like I love that you
point that out, olivia there'sa generation that really has,
might not even know what qualityconnection looks like.
What does that even look like?
What does it even mean?
What does connection even mean?
As generations that do thatwe've been there before and
after this transition of digitalwe're becoming more aware and
(23:42):
more mindful of how thesetechnologies have played a role
and how it has impacted lives.
I love that you brought this up, shauna, because all these
things were created with goodintentions in mind, I believe.
I mean, obviously, there's somethat's created just to make
money, but we know today these,even depending on how they
started, the focus has turned tobeing more about getting our
(24:05):
attention and holding keepingthat attention all the time.
So, as older generations thatcan separate and define quality
of connection differentlybecause we've experienced it, I
feel like it's a responsibilityfor us to help them see that.
Responsibility for us to helpthem see that.
(24:26):
Even for myself, I know, shaunawe've talked about it before
that there was times when I hadto learn that, when Ashton was
talking to me, to put thingsdown and actually look at him in
the eyes.
When you start looking atsomeone in the eyes, as they're
connecting in real life, there'sa different connection than if
you're on your phone andsomebody's talking.
I don't know.
You guys, let us know, you know, send us a text, let us know.
Have you ever experienced whereyou're talking to somebody and
(24:48):
they pick up their phone andstart swiping?
I mean, if I was on here havingthis podcast with you guys and
I was doing this the whole time,it would feel disconnected,
right, I mean, it would bedisconnecting.
So, uh, I think that, yeah,this is something that I think
we need to be aware of, and I'mreally interested to hear about
the antidotes to the antidote.
The unexpected antidote is whatyou call it, right?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Surprising antidote, but I did want to mention real
(25:32):
quick too, because it's kind ofimportant.
Why it's such a big deal isbecause, as a result of this
loneliness, there are emergingtrends of incredibly serious
health problems.
You have a much higher chanceof having cardiovascular issues,
dementia, anxiety.
We all know that depression andsuicide rates are skyrocketing.
It all ties together, so that'swhy it's so important to talk
about it and yes, I can't waitto talk about the antidotes as
well.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But well, and I love that you pointed out too about
how, like you know everybody,this loneliness it's not just
the word loneliness.
People might not recognize themas feeling lonely because of
that word, but it's from some ofthe things that they feel
invisible and even though youknow, you can look at it and say
there's people that feel moreinvisible today even though they
(26:14):
have hundreds or thousands offollowers on social media.
So it's a real eye opener here,where I know, Olivia, we've
talked about in the marketingside, working with people that,
hey, the future of digital andconnection comes down to smaller
groups, not larger groups.
You get lost in the crowd.
You build community in a tribe.
So, yeah, I'm excited to diveinto this more in our next
(26:36):
episode.
So you guys, let us know, Sendus a text, Let us know your
thoughts.
We'd love to hear how this Doyou ever feel lonely?
Do you have you recognized thisas well?
Or maybe even what?
Do you recall a time whereconnection was different than
what it is today?
Uh, we'd love to hear that.
All right, so you know, Shauna,with you sharing that as well.
(26:56):
It kind of made me think aboutwhat I was going to talk about a
little bit the metaverse.
You know we've we've met somany people in the metaverse.
We've been there for two yearsnow, over two years running the
studios in there with live shows, and we've met a lot of people
that feel invisible.
Actually, we just did a podcastepisode on that, on the New
Horizons podcast, so you guyscan go check it out if you want.
(27:17):
Look up New Horizons or KillerBee Studios and you'll find it.
But we've learned how themetaverse is a platform that's
being used that creates adifferent type of connection
than we've ever experienced,Different than Zoom, anything
like that.
So I can't really explain it.
You have to go try it out andsee it for yourself.
But what my topic that I wantedto shine some light on today is
(27:39):
I know this podcast was plannedto be hosted in the metaverse
every episode.
That changed.
We're not doing every episodein there, and the reason why is
because, as digital marketersand we consult and help
businesses, I always look atlike we don't want to put all
our eggs in something that wedon't have control over.
This is a leased property, justlike social media, and there is
(28:02):
some problems that surfacedwith some of our headsets and we
had to make the call and say,hey, wait a minute, we're having
problems with the headsets,it's not getting fixed.
I think it was like a month anda half before it got fixed and
we made the call and decided,hey, you know what we're going
to do this podcast right here onjust an audio podcast and
create some videos of it andwe'll do an episode once a month
in there, because we can't relyon somebody else's software to
(28:23):
do like.
This is an important message,important things that we want to
talk about.
But there's a lot of changesthat's coming with the metaverse
.
They're getting ready to gomobile.
They're going mobile.
Actually, today.
This is the date they're goingmobile.
So the recording date on thisis june 26 of 2024 and they're
launching mobile for everybody.
So you don't have to have aheadset.
You don to have a headset tocome experience it, see what's
(28:45):
going on.
Plus, it's being released Nowit's going to be in a total of
23 countries.
You're going to be able to comein to the metaverse on Meta's
platform, which is Horizon World.
So excited about that to seewhere this is going.
But still, even with that, it'skind of having a like
remembering that we don't ownthese properties.
We have to.
We have to abide by their rules.
(29:06):
They get to make the decisions.
Their goals are different thanour goals.
If you're a business leader,every platform that you're using
that is not your own.
They have their own goals andit's leased.
So it's something we need to bedefinitely pay attention to.
And if you're wanting to learnmore about that, I'll put a link
in the show notes about.
I think we have an articleabout different types of digital
properties to be aware of, soI'll throw a link in there for
(29:27):
that and I would love, likeeverybody that's got you know
everybody on here, all yourguys' resources.
We'll put those links in theshow notes as well, so you guys
can dive deeper into thosethings as well.
And I know that, Ashton, we'regetting ready to hand it over to
you, because I would love tohear what you have to say about
your buzz, your topics thatyou're going to be shining some
light on.
I'm excited to hear about this,but I also heard that you have
(29:49):
a new gadget coming in.
You used to have that.
What's the new gadget?
Because I know before youintroduced your LG Wing, which
we know that Shana pointed outhey, that's not so new, but it
was one of your favorite gadgets.
But hey, that's not so new, butit was one of your favorite
gadgets but you're kind ofditching that thing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's been one of my favorite phones but there was a
really good deal to trade in myold iPhone for a Z Flip 5.
So I'm switching to Z Flip 5.
For a while I'll still be usingthe LG Wing because it has a
far superior camera, so it'sgoing to be a lot better for
that.
But as far as a daily usethough the Z.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Flip.
We'll be excited to hear moreabout the Z Flip.
Once you get it, you're goingto have to let us know.
So you're sticking with Android.
I'm not going to go there, butwe'll just keep that for another
show.
But let us know with text Areyou guys Android or iPhone?
What is your preference?
But let's go ahead andtransition.
Ashton, go ahead, shine somelight on your uh.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Actually, let's not say shine some light can I ask
ashton a question first, beforewe flip to the new subject?
Yeah ash, can we all take betsabout when you'll have to
replace the screen?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
oh, gosh, yeah, yeah, we can do that, we can do that,
we can do that whoever wins,you have to pay, like a coffee
or, you know, five dollar giftcertificate or something we'll
do that all right, okay, so onthe next podcast, you can tell
us.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You know it should be in by then.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Right, yes, and we'll , we'll set it up to be in
within the next, from today tothe next two days.
Uh, so it should be in withinthe next three days.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, cool, awesome, all right.
Well, okay, ashton, let's goahead and transition over to
your topic spotlights.
Uh, let's go ahead andtransition.
Actually, I don't need to say,I just said that.
All right, ashton no-transcript.
(31:54):
Well, we're going to do bets.
I know I said we would do that.
Oh, I understand.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I also have to actually add a revision that
I'll chop up and move toOlivia's part, but upon further
review.
According to worldmetricsorg,Discord reported a 50% growth
rate in its daily active usersin 2020.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wow yeah, oh, wow, wow 2020.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Wow yeah oh wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, so you still want me to ask the question
again?
No, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Don't worry about it, I just need to add that
revision so I can chop that backin later, but okay.
Subject number one a major.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Windows Wi-Fi vulnerability.
Windows are always left open,right?
So windows are always left opento vulnerability, is that?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
what you said.
Yeah, that is what I said.
That was the dad joke.
I told you to say I can't sayit because then it wouldn't work
.
The same Dad's got to say itI'll just say it, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So true, aren't?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
windows left open are always a vulnerability not
giving you the satisfactionthat's a gen x joke uh don't put
that on all the gen x peoplethe windows wi-fi vulnerability.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It, as of june 14th, microsoft has acknowledged a new
wi-fi driver vulnerability,which is their own produced
driver.
By the way, uh, cvss, which isthe common vulnerability scoring
system, rated this in eight outof 8.8 out of 10, which is a
major, major issue.
(33:39):
Uh, it's been assigned thememorable cve 2024 378, so in
case you ever want to searchthat up, there's your number.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Uh, this is well give us the link to it so we can put
that in the show notes.
Yeah, I will, like I will.
Is there a fix for it?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
yes, they've already released a fix, but you have to
go update it.
As far as I know, it doesn'tauto run the update, or at least
it doesn't act like a specialupdate this attack does.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You said, this is on laptops.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
This is on Windows, so this is both Windows 10 and
11.
So that is, desktops, laptops,all kinds of things that use
Windows.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Do people put Windows on phones?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Technically they put Windows on houses.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
We're not going to talk about the Windows phone,
Okay okay.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right, so here's the thing.
Ashton, I don't want to hangtoo much time on the Windows
thing.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I've got to say a specific.
I can't get it out.
This attack does not requireany login or physical access to
the device other than access toWi-Fi.
So someone could go outsideyour house and connect to your
Wi-Fi without passwords oranything and actually attack
this device.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
They could run any bit of code it gives you full
access to a device, so it is aincredibly lethal attack.
It's it'll destroy everything.
I'm surprised they didn't ratethat as like 11.
You know that's like a 11 outof 10 on the what's a 10?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
yeah, what's a 10 yeah, I would love it if she
didn't have to use a password toconnect to wi-Fi.
Yeah, I would.
Ashton, I'm going to add thisso you can put this at the
beginning so tell us what doesthis virus or this vulnerability
look like, what does this mean?
And then you can put that atthe beginning.
This is what it means, likewhat you just said.
(35:35):
So just repeating what I justsaid.
You don't have to repeat it,you just just edit it yeah, so
just put that first, all right.
So okay, ashton, I want to getto the iphone thing, because I
know that you've you've investedand you got this nice samsung
coming in this android, but Iwant to hear about the iphone
news.
Like what's going on?
Like what do you mean?
(35:55):
Imagine a workplace saying youcouldn't use iphones anymore?
And just remind you, I'm theboss at Killer Bee, so don't
worry, iphones can stay.
We might get rid of theAndroids.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Goodness, it's very interesting.
So recent iOS 18 beta has beenreleased, so people are kind of
checking it out, they're pokingaround its code and quite a few
compilers and I'm going to umre-say that, uh, the ios 18 beta
(36:29):
has come out and a lot ofpeople are poking around its
code, um, and people that aremuch more knowledgeable about
the code than me have found allthese new features that Apple
hasn't announced, which isreally interesting.
But some of the interestingones is mixed language keyboards
, custom charging limits.
The voicemail notifications aregoing to show live
(36:52):
transcriptions so you can seewhat people are saying while
they say it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I've seen that.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
So that's something that's a soft release thing.
Uh, a control center redesign,custom flashlight beams.
I don't know how that works.
That's gonna be cool.
Uh, I don't know if you'll beable to do like logos or I'm not
sure like the back maybe I, I'massuming, that's what that
(37:18):
means.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I'm thinking of lightsabers.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I'm not sure physically how that will be.
Maybe it's something that willbe included on the new phones.
I'm not sure.
Imessage gets a bunch of newanimations.
Siri will respond while you'rewearing your AirPods.
If you shake your head, yes orno, it will recognize that no,
siri.
It'll be very interesting.
(37:44):
So if you don't want to sayyour Shona does not a fan of
Siri.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
She's not a fan of Siri.
I'm anti-Siri.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Are you more of an anti-Siri?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
girl.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I'm going to have to re-say that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No, I'm not.
Siri is banned in the Curiehousehold as far as it's up to
me.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
she's very jealous of siri and alexa.
So, siri, I'll explain whylater.
Sorry, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna reset.
Oh no, it's pulling up.
Oh, chill, chill, chill, chill,chill.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Thank you okay oh, because you said the word siri
will respond.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
while you're wearing your airpods, it's going again,
oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Say S-I-R-I.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No, I'm just going to say it and ignore it.
Siri is going to respond to youwhile you're wearing your
AirPods.
So if you shake your head, yes,you're not going to have to say
yes, it's automatically goingto recognize that you shook your
head, yes.
So if it's asking you aquestion and you're on a subway
or something and you don't wantto say it out loud and go like
that and go like that, it'sgoing to respond.
(38:43):
It's going to write yourresponse, pretty much, uh.
And then the notes app, finally, will be able to solve math
equations, which I think isbeing slow released now, but
that's something Excel has beenable to do forever.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Just just saying calculator.
So so what's what?
Just saying Goodbye calculator.
So what's the big Okay?
So far, I'm thinking iPhoneusers can stay at the company.
What's this concern aboutremoving them from a business?
Where did this even come from?
That's the headline.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
The headline is the whole thing.
Elon is threatening to removeApple devices from all the
companies he takes part in.
He was talking about this alittle bit on X, and why he's
doing this is because Apple isgoing to be mixing Siri with
ChatGPT to try and give you moreanswers, more accurate answers
(39:39):
and more conversation-likethings.
And basically what Elon isconcerned about is the privacy
policies within open AI and chatGPT, and it'll be very
interesting.
I can understand from abusiness viewpoint why you would
(39:59):
be concerned about that.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
So he's worried about like things that people say
being picked up on their phone,like even maybe something he
says or like you know some ofhis trade secrets or something
like that, and then kind ofbeing available on an open
source platform, exactly so it'snot exactly that.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
it's open source, but , as far as I'm aware, we don't
really know how open AI logs andhow its AI learns, and so if
it's constantly pooling whatTesla engineers are saying and
there's a leak, or even justopen AI employees share that
(40:41):
data to another car company andreleases Tesla's secrets,
there's no legal protectionthere, really, other than what
their privacy policy says.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So that's going to be interesting.
That's a really interestinginsight there.
I could definitely see issueswith that because, you're right,
they don't really know exactlyhow all this information is
being logged and we all know howgreat these phones are at
listening to us all the time.
Anyways, tiktok ads are goingto show up on my phone today
(41:17):
because Olivia was sharing herlove for TikTok and I'm like
that's going to be all over myphone now and now taking that on
a version of in a businessplace where these platforms
could be listening and feedingthat to chat GPT information's
(41:38):
database for it to answerwhere's the, where's the control
?
I could definitely see concernsbeing that with on trades and
stuff.
Uh, for sure, even like withthe you mentioned head tracking,
I mean I could see that beingused for, like, if you're
listening to spotify and you'relike, yeah, I like this music
and it's like, hey, I'm gonnaplay more of this because the
way their movements are, yeah,these things are getting more
(42:01):
powerful than we probably everimagined.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Uh, but I think that's a good concern.
Ashton, do you remember Ithought someone brought up a um
article about how the militarywas banning use of certain
devices for the same reason?
Do you remember hearingsomething?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I think that was, more specifically,
software-based um.
A lot of military personnelwere not allowed to use tiktok,
uh, due to how they weretreating data and how, more
specifically, how they could betreating data, yeah, uh I see
okay I don't believe that everhappened to any specific
hardware such as iphones or anyAndroid phone or anything like
(42:41):
that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay.
So poll, would you be happy ifyour workplace banned?
I mean technically, brian, youdon't have a workplace, it's at
home.
So okay, let's ask that howwould you feel if iPhones were
banned in your house?
Would you like that or no?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Well, anybody that's listening, let us know.
Send us a text on the shownotes.
Text us a message.
Let us know.
What are your thoughts aboutbanning iPhones.
How would you feel about thatIf it was at your workplace or
anywhere Within?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
your own home.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I mean gosh, it could be anywhere.
I mean a lot of people don'twant smart.
I guess technically we all workfrom home don't want smart
speakers right now, because ofit being able to listen.
I mean, you don't?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
like siri and alexa.
So what I'm thinking morespecifically, though, is like,
if you are going to a joboutside of your home and they
said you can't bring in youriphone, what would you feel like
?
What would you think about itlike?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
put yourself in that position I think it would depend
on how it's a go ahead how itwas enforced.
How it was handled, I think,would be more concerning to me.
Are all these phones justgetting left in a bucket
somewhere where someone couldjust walk out with the bucket,
or are they actually setting upan area for you to where you can
(43:53):
leave your phone?
Maybe, like the little docks,you can get that clean your
phone.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Maybe you put your phone in there and it cleans it
and keeps it safe while you'regone and it's not just like
unprofessionally handled maybenext time we'll bring this up,
because I know we talked aboutit earlier and, uh, it probably
good to bring back, since we'renow officially launched the
podcast.
Uh, this might be a good thingto look at that brick.
(44:22):
I know like at home we havethat brick where you can use it
and it shuts down certain apps.
Is that something that couldpossibly be used?
I don't know, we can discussthat too, and then in a future
episode.
But these are really good,really good things to think
about.
Olivia, do you have something?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
oh, I was just gonna say I would say then go ahead
and buy me a work Android Smart.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, I like that, I like that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Personally, like part of me says you're not going to
tell me what I can bring to workand not bring to work.
Part of me says that Part of mesays like I love not having my
phone with me.
Me says like I love not havingmy phone with me, so like, for
instance, in my yoga class, likeI leave my phone in the car
because I don't want it to gooff and interrupt everything.
So I love what it feels likewhen I don't have my phone, like
(45:09):
the being able to focus moreand not thinking like hey, I
wonder if someone texts me orwhatever.
So I like that feeling.
But also I don't want someoneto tell me like I don't want
someone to enforce that on me.
Well, I don't want someone toenforce that on me.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Well, I mean, I'm wondering if there's got to be a
way, if not right now, but atsome point.
If this is the case, elon, ifyou're listening, make it happen
.
Man, you're a tech guy.
I mean a lot of these placesthey block different
applications you can't use.
Like we were just at Verizonand we were not able to load a
game app because you're on theVerizon's Wi-Fi.
(45:40):
So if you're at a workplace,can you put some kind of blocker
on Siri, like that's theconcern of us working with Siri?
Maybe it can't.
There's got to be a way to beable to block that.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Maybe it can't communicate to Apple servers or
open AI servers.
However, it's handled, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, that's been interesting.
This has been a good.
This has been been some good,good insights.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I hope everybody else One more, one more thing to add
to that.
It could even be handled wherethey have some sort of device
that is blocking a microphone,or maybe it's similar to a dog
whistle, where only themicrophone can hear a frequency
that we can't.
Something I'm going gonna bringformula one into this uh,
something that ferrari did Ithink it was a few years back,
(46:27):
uh, when they were doing a bunchof things where, like, all
these fans were coming in andcould see stuff that couldn't be
leaked.
They put stickers on people'sphones so there couldn be
cameras.
I'll show it to the camera soyou guys can see.
We'll have to add it in post,but they put stickers all over
people's phones Devices.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah that way if one of those stickers came off, you
would know.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
That camera isn't covered, so it could leak stuff.
Well, I think this is good.
This has been a great mindfulbites, I think.
With what you brought here,ashton, I think it's an
eye-opener that we have to bemore mindful.
These technologies arecontinuing to change the
securities, are changing the waythese platforms affect our
lives and impact our lives.
Just like what you brought upshauna that's changing olivia
(47:20):
are the way we use thesetechnologies as tiktok versus
google.
The all lives and impact ourlives.
Just like what you brought up,shauna, that's changing Olivia,
the way we use thesetechnologies as TikTok versus
Google.
All these things are changingand it's great for us to be
mindful about these changes anddiscuss it and see what does it
look like?
I mean, maybe the iOS shouldhave considered tying Syrian
with TikTok, not chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I don't know, just saying.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I mean, who knows, maybe, maybe they'll change it
up, but we would love to hearyour guys' thoughts and we thank
you guys all for tuning in forthe Mindful Bites podcast and
we'll check and we'll see youduring.
How do I close that guys?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I don't know.
We'll see you in the nextepisode we were supposed to come
up with a funny way to end, oh,yeah, oh, yeah just yeah, see
you next time, yeah, with that Iguess let's do this yeah, go
ahead, let's do what oh rememberhow, remember how I said like
each one of us can say a word.
Do you like that idea?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
still, I'm like really kind of stuck on it.
I know you're kind of stuck onit, but it might be hard to do
why.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
What are you?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
thinking it's 1220, so what are you thinking Rapidly
?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Mother, all of us.
Okay, so me, olivia and Brian,each one of us real fast in a
row we're going to say tick, andthen, ashton, you're going to
say boom, okay.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I'll start.
Are you ready?
Go fast.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Okay, tick, tick start.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Are you ready?
Go fast, okay.
Tick, tick, boom.
That did not work at all.
That did not work in the show,like that tick tick, tick.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
That's not gonna work , mom.
I'm saying like, as the verylast thing they hear, like you
still have an outro like thanksfor joining us.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Blah, blah, blah but what is the tick, tick, boom for
?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
okay, we're okay tick , tick, tick, boom.
It's like we're going to do allsort of like references, but
it's all-.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
And what is that reference to?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
It's a song I forget right now, but it's a good
reference.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
This is going in.
This is our outro, by the way,this is staying in.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Oh, this is no.
This is like People's alreadytuned out by now.
They're like I.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Sorry people, I'll shorten it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Sorry, all right, well everybody.
Hey, thanks for joining us forthis episode of the Mindful
Bites podcast.
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(49:37):
Have a great week.
Send us a coffee.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
We would love that.
We appreciate you guys have agreat week.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Bye, bye, tick, tick, tick, tick Tick.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Boom, tick, tick Boom .
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Tick, tick, tick, boom.
No, olivia already went.
Boom, it's one piece ofdynamite.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's not multiple.
We're all for dynamite, so wecan all for save boom if we want
this show was dynamite boom,tick, tick, tick boom.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'm surprised you don't remember that, guys.
Yes, it can, oh all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Okay, let me stop the recording guys, so this can
upload real quick.
So today I'm going to be talking about whether TikTok
is the new Google.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I want to talk about the epidemic of loneliness in
America.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I'm going to be talking about is the news that's
happening in VR and augmentedreality.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I'm going to be covering major Windows Wi-Fi
vulnerabilities.
And how would you feel if yourworkplace banned iPhones?
And how would you feel if yourworkplace banned iPhones.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, everybody.
Well, welcome to the MindfulBytes podcast.
I am Brian, your Gen X businessleader.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I am Olivia, your social media savvy and sassy
millennial.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Olivia's got the longest title ever on here.
Yeah, really On this podcast.
So we'll have to wrap it upAfter this.
We'll go ahead and wrap it up.
Yeah, really, on this podcast,so we'll have to wrap it up
After this we'll go ahead andwrap it up.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's over.
Hey, I'm Shauna and I am yourXenial Digital Dinosaur.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I always forget about the dinosaur part.
I'm Ashton, I'm the Gen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Z that's interested in the technicals and the
gimmicks of today's tech.
Hey, so I want to encourageeverybody that's listening to
text us your thoughts orquestions throughout the episode
.
Just look at the show notes.
You're going to see a linkthere that says text us.
So that's called our fan mailand what we're going to do is
every month we're going to hosta live episode from the
metaverse and we're going toread through that fan mail.
So make sure you send us yourthoughts and questions using
(01:21):
that text link.
All right, so let's go aheadand dive in.
Okay, you said don't say divein.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No dive in.
Dive in is my normal thing.
I know you use it too much.
You got to switch it up.
I use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Why don't you say something like let's go ahead
and expand on those topics,Olivia, go ahead and get us
started?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Something like that Okay, I yeah, okay, I'm just,
I'm just thinking it's alwaysfunny when you're sitting there
and you're trying to generatethat sentence in your head and
you're just kind of sittingthere looking at the camera and
you're like, oh, I don't want tobe right here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
All of you should not look at me at any point during
this interview because I'm so onthe verge of cracking up that
I'm like trying to look down andnot smile.
And then I look at Ashton.
He's smiling.
I know he's looking at me.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right.
So I think I'm good now.
All right, so, as a Gen X, Iwant to kind of paint a picture
here as we dive in now, not divein, oh, stop saying the word
dive in.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I'd love to be a swimmer.
I heard it, I heard it coming.
I heard it coming.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All right.
So as a Gen X, I guess I'mgoing to go ahead and transition
this into what we call thetopic spotlight.
So imagine yourself, if youhave a good imagination, you're
moving that light.
It's probably a squeaky oldlight, Probably on you
millennials.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
you probably just turn on your flashlight on your
phone.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But we're going to go ahead, gonna just shine some
light onto the topics that we'regonna be talking about.
What's the one thing you wantto talk about?
What the heck?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't think we should be talking about
generations in every singlesentence you know what I'm
saying?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
that was it's too much.
People are gonna get annoyedabout it.
Okay, all right, all right youdove overboard you told me
everything I can't say now, sothis is is making it really
tough.
All right, sorry about that.
All right, so let's go ahead.
And just how am I going to saythis?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He was so close to saying it again.
Let me give it a try.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Brian, you can say so many different things.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Let mom try.
Go ahead, okay.
So why don't we go ahead andexpand on those topics?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Olivia, you want to get us started?
Not really, but I will.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, I need to do it.
I think I need to do it Let metry it again, because you're our
host.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I know yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
All right, so let's go ahead and switch on over to
the spotlights of these topics.
Olivia, you want to get usstarted?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yes, absolutely You're all good, you're all good
.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay.
So I'm really excited to talkabout this because, just letting
you all know, tiktok is mynumber one social media platform
.
It has my heart, um, and sowhen I read this article that um
, adobe did hold on, I'm gettingtoo wordy.
(04:12):
How in depth of things do you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
want.
No, this is the now, this isthe podcast.
So feel free to go in depth asyou want and then just turn it
over to us.
Uh, because I already have somethoughts on it, but go ahead
and turn it over to us whenyou're ready.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I already have thoughts on it.
Yeah, I'm going pretty in-depthinto part of mine.
Same here.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So I mean this podcast episode can be 45
minutes an hour long, I don'tcare, as long as we want to make
sure it's valuable to thosethat are listening.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, cool.
So TikTok has my heart.
So when I came across thisarticle from social media today,
it caught my attentioninstantly, and it is talking
about how more and more peopleare turning to TikTok to learn
about new products, trends andthings like that, trends and
(05:02):
things like that.
So Adobe, of all places, did ahuge survey.
They surveyed 808 consumers and251 business owners about how
they're using the platform andthis fits along well.
I am bringing up the breakdownof generations again, because
(05:25):
they did yeah, that makes sense,that's good.
So they broke it down bygenerations and how they're
currently using TikTok.
Know gen z, which would beashton um 64 of them trust
(05:48):
tiktok over google to discovernew things.
So that's one in ten gen zers sothat's a pretty high number, um
, and I was actually surprisedby this just overall.
But 49% of millennials are alsousing TikTok as more of a
(06:12):
search engine than Google, andthen the numbers go down from
there.
So 29% of Gen X and then youhave 14% boomers Wow.
So, yeah, I mean.
What do you all think?
And then you have 14% boomersWow.
So yeah, I mean.
What do you all think?
People are going onto TikTok todiscover new things Basically
(06:36):
your day-to-day.
What do you think?
The number one thing that itsaid people search for on TikTok
.
I was a little surprised bythis.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is it cleaning tips?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
No, but that's how I started into TikTok.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Dance moves.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
No, but that's what really helped to get it popular
in 2020.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Do you have any ideas , Ashton?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well, it's recipes's recipes recipes yeah, that's a
good point.
I've used it for that so yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
so what are, what are your all thoughts?
Do you think that tiktok couldever actually take over google
as the most kind of used searchengine?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hmm, well, let me ask you a few questions before I
answer.
Um.
Do you feel like there's a good, uh, kind of spread of
knowledge, like, do you seeTikToks about?
Um, all sorts of differentthings like about, um, I don't
know, for instance like remediesfor sickness, or yeah or like
(07:49):
yeah, because that's what.
I'm thinking is like if it's notjust trendy things, I could see
it happening.
I mean, you know platforms areconsistently going to take over
each other, you know, in thefuture.
So I mean, google might notalways be where people go to
search things.
So I could see it happening.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, that's a really , really good thought and the
thing about it is, when I waslooking, they had a pie, a pie
chart in the article ondifferent things that people
were searching for, and most ofthem are, you know, people
(08:28):
looking for things to make theirlives better, like trying to
find things that improve theirlives and things like that.
So a lot of businesses.
Are we talking specificallyabout Christian radio or no?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, we're not talking specifically Christian radio.
This is for anybody, and Idon't know if anybody else
noticed, but Olivia froze up onme.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, we all noticed she frees up on you guys.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, because I didn't hear anything what she said.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well, so what I think happened though at least what
it seemed like to me is that shecame back in talking where she
stopped, and then it speeded upbecause her lips weren't lined
up with what she was saying.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I know what you mean.
We didn't have that.
I didn't see that.
I know what you mean.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I didn't see that.
So, olivia, if you can startyour comment, whatever your
response was, then start itagain, because I don't know how
to respond if we can't hear whatshe's saying.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I see that Sure go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But yeah, this is not for Christian broadcasters, for
anybody that's dealing withdigital stuff, so there is no
audience specific like that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Okay, yeah, shauna, that is a great question.
In the article that I waslooking at, they had a pie chart
of the different things thatpeople are searching for on
TikTok and I noticed the trendon there was that people are
really looking for things tomake their lives better, easier
(09:49):
or just different things likethat.
So I think that, as a businessor a marketer, it doesn't matter
what type of company or productyou have.
There really is a lot ofopportunity there.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So my thought would be this I see what Adobe like
their research and stuff, whatthey came up.
Those numbers are veryinteresting to hear that, the 64
, 47% and all that.
I'm sorry you Xenials didn'teven make the list, but I'm sure
you fall under somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They probably were a micro generation A micro
generation yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So, that means you don't count?
No, I'm sure you fall in theresomewhere.
They probably want a microgeneration.
A micro generation, yeah.
So that means you don't count?
No, I'm just joking.
Make sure you edit that out oreverybody will hate me on this
podcast.
Cancel it.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Someone's got to be the main one.
Cancel it, cancel it.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I would you know, when I think about what's
replacing Google, I'm reallyleaning more towards AI.
What's replacing Google?
I'm really leaning more towardsAI, like I I'm curious, like,
compared to tick talk versus AIlike chat, gpt and stuff, are
people more using those type ofservices over Google than tick
(10:57):
tock, like?
I think that I could see thattoo, but I could see the point
with TikTok too.
So I think it's maybe we'rehaving brand new versions of
search engines.
I guess not brand new versions,but how about?
I guess we're kind of are wetransitioning into an era where
we have different types ofsearches that are being done,
like some of the video searches,like they want to see it, but
(11:18):
if they're just looking for thatknowledge, the AI like chat,
gpt is a great source to findstuff so quickly and get answers
.
What's your thoughts on that,olivia?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So the article also had a chart of different search
engines, and chat GPT wasactually higher than Yahoo,
which I don't know like startingout on the internet, I was
always like a Yahoo searchengine person, but now that's
(11:49):
not even something that mostpeople would use as their search
engine.
But the in regards to the funnything about it is um yeah,
(12:09):
they're using it to learn how touse chat GPT.
So when more people learn it,maybe it will really skew the
numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So so maybe TikTok should ban any how to videos on
chat GPT, cause they could befeeding their competitor.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They're not.
They're not Mark Zuckerberg,they're not scared.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
All right, Olivia, so let's goahead and transition.
What is the next topic that youwant to spotlight?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So this is coming from like there isn't any like
oh, breaking news, but this issomething that I've experienced.
Really a significant amountwith the clients that we work
with is people having to eithershut down accounts and start
(12:58):
from scratch or not gettingaccess to their accounts because
they signed up with a emailaddress that they no longer have
access to.
So I wanted to bring this upbecause there has been a
significant amount of timewasted in figuring out these
(13:23):
problems and you know we're allbusy.
So I just wanted to kind ofbring up the fact that you
should always have a designatedemail address for your social
accounts.
Have it be like social at.
You know, whatever your businessis that multiple people have
(13:47):
access to when you're setting upyour accounts, do not have them
connected to say, just yoursocial media person that you
hired or something like that.
And also be very, very mindfulof who you're giving admin
access to, because you know I'vealso seen where someone was an
(14:08):
admin and they got a spam likenotification.
They freaked out, they clickedon it and then they ruined I
mean they the page got messed upbecause of clicking on this
link.
So I just wanted to remindeverybody to be, like, mindful
(14:30):
of how you set up your accounts,who is getting access to them.
And the cool thing is there'sactually going to be a blog on
killer B marketing's websitewith more in depth details on
how you can do this.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Go check out our blogs.
That's great.
Do it.
Do it Right now.
No, finish listening to theepisode first.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
No, it was.
That's why I picked this topic,because it's going to be my
blog for June Awesome so Iwanted them to go.
Yeah, no, I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I love it.
Well, and I know, olivia, thatyou've worked with some people
already Some people I thinkwe've worked with that took
almost six months to get backcontrol of their Facebook pages,
because of this.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, we know how.
Meta's customer service isNon-existent.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Top notch, yeah, oh yeah, on opposite day.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, on opposite day yes.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
On opposite day.
That's good, yeah, that's good.
So, yeah, keep an eye out forthat blog.
And if you're listening to thisand you're like, yeah, we're
dealing with the same thingright now, we need help.
You can also just click thelinks in the show notes and
schedule a consulting sessionwith Olivia as well, so we're
here to help you guys in thosejams.
I mean, she loves doing that,don't you love you?
Just love that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, I've learned a lot, so it's very like nice to
be able to say like when peopleare freaking out, it's like
don't worry, you're not the onlyone, we've helped others do
that as well.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And I would love to encourage anybody if you guys
have dealt with any of thesestruggles or you have thoughts
about the TikTok buzz thatOlivia was sharing with us,
please make sure you send us atext.
We want to hear your thoughtsand hear your questions as well,
so we can talk about it laterin our fan mail.
So let's go ahead andtransition over to.
Let's go ahead and transitionto the dinosaur here.
Let's go ahead and transitionto Shauna Sha, to the to the
(16:28):
dinosaur here.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's go ahead and transition to Shauna.
Shauna, what's your?
Let's go ahead and dive intoyour topic spotlights that you
brought to the class.
Okay, so, like I said, I'mdigging into this 2023 Surgeon
General Report.
That's about the epidemic ofloneliness in America and
actually I had heard you knowkind of word about it floating
around, but I came across thisarticle that really caught my
attention and it was calledsomething along the lines of the
(16:52):
epidemic of loneliness and thesurprising antidote.
So that's what I'm going totalk about on our next podcast,
but first I want to dive in towhat even this report is saying
and kind of get to the bottom ofthe causes and things like that
.
So this is what was fascinatingto me.
So it's actually called theepidemic of loneliness and
(17:13):
isolation.
And, um, basically whathappened was the surgeon general
did a tour around the countrytalking to people about what
they were dealing with, whattheir problems were in their
life, things like that, and hefound that people were talking
about the same things over andover, and what it came down to
essentially, is that people feelisolated, they feel invisible
(17:35):
and they feel insignificant.
And so he said even if someonecouldn't put their finger on the
word lonely, like they'refeeling lonely.
It all came down to that, allof the different things that
people were feeling concerningfeeling insignificant, invisible
.
It all came down to a lack ofsocial connection.
And so, you know, a line reallystuck out to me in this report
(18:00):
and it said you can be lonelyeven with a lot of people around
you, because loneliness isabout the quality of your
connection.
So the report is very in-depthabout how things have changed in
our country that arecontributing to this epidemic of
loneliness.
There's a lot of thingscontributing and a lot of this
(18:20):
research was done before COVID.
So, although COVID hasdefinitely made things worse.
It was a problem before that.
So I wanted to put that outthere right away so that people
don't think, oh yeah, well,that's all COVID's fault, it's
not.
This has been going on for alot longer than that.
Um, but the thing I wanted tokind of focus in on today, since
this is kind of what we'retalking about and what the
podcast is about, is the waysthat technology are contributing
(18:44):
, contributing to this epidemic.
So there are pros and cons, ofcourse, to using technology.
We all know that and I don'twant to diminish the pros and to
, um, you know, take away fromthe fact that you can use
technology in such a healthy wayand you can use it to stay
connected with your family andyour friends and learn things,
(19:07):
and so, even though I am adigital dinosaur, I don't want
you to think I'm saying that weshould not use technology.
My whole point, and even beingin this podcast, is just to
encourage us to use it in ahealthy way, and so some of the
harms that they're finding andI'm sure you've heard about some
(19:27):
of these, but it's kind of hardto like apply these to your own
life, I think, because you knowif you just think about it in
passing.
You might think like, oh, thisisn't hurting me, I'm using this
right, I'm using it in a greatway, it's not going to take away
from my life in any way.
But listen to what some of theharms that they have listed Um,
technology that displacesin-person engagement has anyone
(19:50):
done that before?
Like, cancel an outing with yourfriends and just stay at home
on your Facebook or whatever.
Um, uh, technology thatmonopolizes your attention we
all know that that's kind ofwhat it's designed for a lot of
these social platforms.
They want to keep you there.
Or a technology that reducesthe quality of your interaction
(20:11):
or diminishes your self-esteem.
So right away you can recognizehow all of those can happen in
your life, and especially if wethink about the younger
generations.
No-transcript, like 70 yearsago.
(20:48):
That's a shocking stat.
And another one is that 33% ofadults 18 and over describe
their own online activity asbeing online almost constantly.
They didn't have a number thatI came across for the younger
generations in that, but I wouldimagine it would have to be
even higher.
So I bring all that up to saywhat do you guys think about
(21:09):
this idea that a platform, orreally all sorts of platforms
that really, I think in thebeginning were meant to help us
connect better could actually becontributing to us being more
lonely.
What are your thoughts aboutthat?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I think, with just what you're saying and that
quote, which was really good.
I have recently spent two weekswith my 13, well, 14-year niece
and 15 year old nephew and I'mwondering if that generation
even really knows what trueconnection is anymore.
(21:54):
Like you know, because ifyou're talking about having
quality time to have a trueconnection, do they even know
what that really is?
Because they're chasing likesand things like that.
So that's what I was thinkingof of like has the definition of
(22:15):
connection changed and they'regoing to be searching for
something that they're nevergoing to achieve.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I think what's probably even more dangerous
building off of that isplatforms that are built
specifically to basically be themiddleman when you interact.
We saw the explosion of thatover COVID of Discord getting I
think it was 27% if I'mremembering correctly.
Was uh 27 if I'm rememberingcorrectly.
(22:47):
Uh, of a user base increase, itwas quite a big percentage.
Um, so discord was a big placefor gamers.
Um, we had zoom for all theschools and stuff.
Uh, we had all these thingsthat was simulating that
interaction, but it's still notquality time.
It's not you sitting next tothe person doing anything, it's
(23:08):
you're still through technology.
I think that's probably one ofthe most dangerous things out of
that, because it's stillsimulating that behavior I think
this is a great thing to talkabout, too.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Is us from older generations like I love that you
point that out, olivia there'sa generation that really has,
might not even know what qualityconnection looks like.
What does that even look like?
What does it even mean?
What does connection even mean?
As generations that do thatwe've been there before and
after this transition of digitalwe're becoming more aware and
(23:42):
more mindful of how thesetechnologies have played a role
and how it has impacted lives.
I love that you brought this up, shauna, because all these
things were created with goodintentions in mind, I believe.
I mean, obviously, there's somethat's created just to make
money, but we know today these,even depending on how they
started, the focus has turned tobeing more about getting our
(24:05):
attention and holding keepingthat attention all the time.
So, as older generations thatcan separate and define quality
of connection differentlybecause we've experienced it, I
feel like it's a responsibilityfor us to help them see that.
Responsibility for us to helpthem see that.
(24:26):
Even for myself, I know, shaunawe've talked about it before
that there was times when I hadto learn that, when Ashton was
talking to me, to put thingsdown and actually look at him in
the eyes.
When you start looking atsomeone in the eyes, as they're
connecting in real life, there'sa different connection than if
you're on your phone andsomebody's talking.
I don't know.
You guys, let us know, you know, send us a text, let us know.
Have you ever experienced whereyou're talking to somebody and
(24:48):
they pick up their phone andstart swiping?
I mean, if I was on here havingthis podcast with you guys and
I was doing this the whole time,it would feel disconnected,
right, I mean, it would bedisconnecting.
So, uh, I think that, yeah,this is something that I think
we need to be aware of, and I'mreally interested to hear about
the antidotes to the antidote.
The unexpected antidote is whatyou call it, right?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Surprising antidote, but I did want to mention real
(25:32):
quick too, because it's kind ofimportant.
Why it's such a big deal isbecause, as a result of this
loneliness, there are emergingtrends of incredibly serious
health problems.
You have a much higher chanceof having cardiovascular issues,
dementia, anxiety.
We all know that depression andsuicide rates are skyrocketing.
It all ties together, so that'swhy it's so important to talk
about it and yes, I can't waitto talk about the antidotes as
well.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But well, and I love that you pointed out too about
how, like you know everybody,this loneliness it's not just
the word loneliness.
People might not recognize themas feeling lonely because of
that word, but it's from some ofthe things that they feel
invisible and even though youknow, you can look at it and say
there's people that feel moreinvisible today even though they
(26:14):
have hundreds or thousands offollowers on social media.
So it's a real eye opener here,where I know, Olivia, we've
talked about in the marketingside, working with people that,
hey, the future of digital andconnection comes down to smaller
groups, not larger groups.
You get lost in the crowd.
You build community in a tribe.
So, yeah, I'm excited to diveinto this more in our next
(26:36):
episode.
So you guys, let us know, Sendus a text, Let us know your
thoughts.
We'd love to hear how this Doyou ever feel lonely?
Do you have you recognized thisas well?
Or maybe even what?
Do you recall a time whereconnection was different than
what it is today?
Uh, we'd love to hear that.
All right, so you know, Shauna,with you sharing that as well.
(26:56):
It kind of made me think aboutwhat I was going to talk about a
little bit the metaverse.
You know we've we've met somany people in the metaverse.
We've been there for two yearsnow, over two years running the
studios in there with live shows, and we've met a lot of people
that feel invisible.
Actually, we just did a podcastepisode on that, on the New
Horizons podcast, so you guyscan go check it out if you want.
(27:17):
Look up New Horizons or KillerBee Studios and you'll find it.
But we've learned how themetaverse is a platform that's
being used that creates adifferent type of connection
than we've ever experienced,Different than Zoom, anything
like that.
So I can't really explain it.
You have to go try it out andsee it for yourself.
But what my topic that I wantedto shine some light on today is
(27:39):
I know this podcast was plannedto be hosted in the metaverse
every episode.
That changed.
We're not doing every episodein there, and the reason why is
because, as digital marketersand we consult and help
businesses, I always look atlike we don't want to put all
our eggs in something that wedon't have control over.
This is a leased property, justlike social media, and there is
(28:02):
some problems that surfacedwith some of our headsets and we
had to make the call and say,hey, wait a minute, we're having
problems with the headsets,it's not getting fixed.
I think it was like a month anda half before it got fixed and
we made the call and decided,hey, you know what we're going
to do this podcast right here onjust an audio podcast and
create some videos of it andwe'll do an episode once a month
in there, because we can't relyon somebody else's software to
(28:23):
do like.
This is an important message,important things that we want to
talk about.
But there's a lot of changesthat's coming with the metaverse
.
They're getting ready to gomobile.
They're going mobile.
Actually, today.
This is the date they're goingmobile.
So the recording date on thisis june 26 of 2024 and they're
launching mobile for everybody.
So you don't have to have aheadset.
You don to have a headset tocome experience it, see what's
(28:45):
going on.
Plus, it's being released Nowit's going to be in a total of
23 countries.
You're going to be able to comein to the metaverse on Meta's
platform, which is Horizon World.
So excited about that to seewhere this is going.
But still, even with that, it'skind of having a like
remembering that we don't ownthese properties.
We have to.
We have to abide by their rules.
(29:06):
They get to make the decisions.
Their goals are different thanour goals.
If you're a business leader,every platform that you're using
that is not your own.
They have their own goals andit's leased.
So it's something we need to bedefinitely pay attention to.
And if you're wanting to learnmore about that, I'll put a link
in the show notes about.
I think we have an articleabout different types of digital
properties to be aware of, soI'll throw a link in there for
(29:27):
that and I would love, likeeverybody that's got you know
everybody on here, all yourguys' resources.
We'll put those links in theshow notes as well, so you guys
can dive deeper into thosethings as well.
And I know that, Ashton, we'regetting ready to hand it over to
you, because I would love tohear what you have to say about
your buzz, your topics thatyou're going to be shining some
light on.
I'm excited to hear about this,but I also heard that you have
(29:49):
a new gadget coming in.
You used to have that.
What's the new gadget?
Because I know before youintroduced your LG Wing, which
we know that Shana pointed outhey, that's not so new, but it
was one of your favorite gadgets.
But hey, that's not so new, butit was one of your favorite
gadgets but you're kind ofditching that thing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's been one of my favorite phones but there was a
really good deal to trade in myold iPhone for a Z Flip 5.
So I'm switching to Z Flip 5.
For a while I'll still be usingthe LG Wing because it has a
far superior camera, so it'sgoing to be a lot better for
that.
But as far as a daily usethough the Z.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Flip.
We'll be excited to hear moreabout the Z Flip.
Once you get it, you're goingto have to let us know.
So you're sticking with Android.
I'm not going to go there, butwe'll just keep that for another
show.
But let us know with text Areyou guys Android or iPhone?
What is your preference?
But let's go ahead andtransition.
Ashton, go ahead, shine somelight on your uh.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Actually, let's not say shine some light can I ask
ashton a question first, beforewe flip to the new subject?
Yeah ash, can we all take betsabout when you'll have to
replace the screen?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
oh, gosh, yeah, yeah, we can do that, we can do that,
we can do that whoever wins,you have to pay, like a coffee
or, you know, five dollar giftcertificate or something we'll
do that all right, okay, so onthe next podcast, you can tell
us.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You know it should be in by then.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Right, yes, and we'll , we'll set it up to be in
within the next, from today tothe next two days.
Uh, so it should be in withinthe next three days.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, cool, awesome, all right.
Well, okay, ashton, let's goahead and transition over to
your topic spotlights.
Uh, let's go ahead andtransition.
Actually, I don't need to say,I just said that.
All right, ashton no-transcript.
(31:54):
Well, we're going to do bets.
I know I said we would do that.
Oh, I understand.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I also have to actually add a revision that
I'll chop up and move toOlivia's part, but upon further
review.
According to worldmetricsorg,Discord reported a 50% growth
rate in its daily active usersin 2020.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wow yeah, oh, wow, wow 2020.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Wow yeah oh wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Okay, so you still want me to ask the question
again?
No, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Don't worry about it, I just need to add that
revision so I can chop that backin later, but okay.
Subject number one a major.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Windows Wi-Fi vulnerability.
Windows are always left open,right?
So windows are always left opento vulnerability, is that?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
what you said.
Yeah, that is what I said.
That was the dad joke.
I told you to say I can't sayit because then it wouldn't work
.
The same Dad's got to say itI'll just say it, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So true, aren't?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
windows left open are always a vulnerability not
giving you the satisfactionthat's a gen x joke uh don't put
that on all the gen x peoplethe windows wi-fi vulnerability.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It, as of june 14th, microsoft has acknowledged a new
wi-fi driver vulnerability,which is their own produced
driver.
By the way, uh, cvss, which isthe common vulnerability scoring
system, rated this in eight outof 8.8 out of 10, which is a
major, major issue.
(33:39):
Uh, it's been assigned thememorable cve 2024 378, so in
case you ever want to searchthat up, there's your number.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Uh, this is well give us the link to it so we can put
that in the show notes.
Yeah, I will, like I will.
Is there a fix for it?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
yes, they've already released a fix, but you have to
go update it.
As far as I know, it doesn'tauto run the update, or at least
it doesn't act like a specialupdate this attack does.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You said, this is on laptops.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
This is on Windows, so this is both Windows 10 and
11.
So that is, desktops, laptops,all kinds of things that use
Windows.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Do people put Windows on phones?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Technically they put Windows on houses.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
We're not going to talk about the Windows phone,
Okay okay.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right, so here's the thing.
Ashton, I don't want to hangtoo much time on the Windows
thing.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I've got to say a specific.
I can't get it out.
This attack does not requireany login or physical access to
the device other than access toWi-Fi.
So someone could go outsideyour house and connect to your
Wi-Fi without passwords oranything and actually attack
this device.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
They could run any bit of code it gives you full
access to a device, so it is aincredibly lethal attack.
It's it'll destroy everything.
I'm surprised they didn't ratethat as like 11.
You know that's like a 11 outof 10 on the what's a 10?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
yeah, what's a 10 yeah, I would love it if she
didn't have to use a password toconnect to wi-Fi.
Yeah, I would.
Ashton, I'm going to add thisso you can put this at the
beginning so tell us what doesthis virus or this vulnerability
look like, what does this mean?
And then you can put that atthe beginning.
This is what it means, likewhat you just said.
(35:35):
So just repeating what I justsaid.
You don't have to repeat it,you just just edit it yeah, so
just put that first, all right.
So okay, ashton, I want to getto the iphone thing, because I
know that you've you've investedand you got this nice samsung
coming in this android, but Iwant to hear about the iphone
news.
Like what's going on?
Like what do you mean?
(35:55):
Imagine a workplace saying youcouldn't use iphones anymore?
And just remind you, I'm theboss at Killer Bee, so don't
worry, iphones can stay.
We might get rid of theAndroids.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Goodness, it's very interesting.
So recent iOS 18 beta has beenreleased, so people are kind of
checking it out, they're pokingaround its code and quite a few
compilers and I'm going to umre-say that, uh, the ios 18 beta
(36:29):
has come out and a lot ofpeople are poking around its
code, um, and people that aremuch more knowledgeable about
the code than me have found allthese new features that Apple
hasn't announced, which isreally interesting.
But some of the interestingones is mixed language keyboards
, custom charging limits.
The voicemail notifications aregoing to show live
(36:52):
transcriptions so you can seewhat people are saying while
they say it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I've seen that.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
So that's something that's a soft release thing.
Uh, a control center redesign,custom flashlight beams.
I don't know how that works.
That's gonna be cool.
Uh, I don't know if you'll beable to do like logos or I'm not
sure like the back maybe I, I'massuming, that's what that
(37:18):
means.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I'm thinking of lightsabers.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I'm not sure physically how that will be.
Maybe it's something that willbe included on the new phones.
I'm not sure.
Imessage gets a bunch of newanimations.
Siri will respond while you'rewearing your AirPods.
If you shake your head, yes orno, it will recognize that no,
siri.
It'll be very interesting.
(37:44):
So if you don't want to sayyour Shona does not a fan of
Siri.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
She's not a fan of Siri.
I'm anti-Siri.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Are you more of an anti-Siri?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
girl.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I'm going to have to re-say that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No, I'm not.
Siri is banned in the Curiehousehold as far as it's up to
me.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
she's very jealous of siri and alexa.
So, siri, I'll explain whylater.
Sorry, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna reset.
Oh no, it's pulling up.
Oh, chill, chill, chill, chill,chill.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Thank you okay oh, because you said the word siri
will respond.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
while you're wearing your airpods, it's going again,
oh goodness.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Say S-I-R-I.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No, I'm just going to say it and ignore it.
Siri is going to respond to youwhile you're wearing your
AirPods.
So if you shake your head, yes,you're not going to have to say
yes, it's automatically goingto recognize that you shook your
head, yes.
So if it's asking you aquestion and you're on a subway
or something and you don't wantto say it out loud and go like
that and go like that, it'sgoing to respond.
(38:43):
It's going to write yourresponse, pretty much, uh.
And then the notes app, finally, will be able to solve math
equations, which I think isbeing slow released now, but
that's something Excel has beenable to do forever.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Just just saying calculator.
So so what's what?
Just saying Goodbye calculator.
So what's the big Okay?
So far, I'm thinking iPhoneusers can stay at the company.
What's this concern aboutremoving them from a business?
Where did this even come from?
That's the headline.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
The headline is the whole thing.
Elon is threatening to removeApple devices from all the
companies he takes part in.
He was talking about this alittle bit on X, and why he's
doing this is because Apple isgoing to be mixing Siri with
ChatGPT to try and give you moreanswers, more accurate answers
(39:39):
and more conversation-likethings.
And basically what Elon isconcerned about is the privacy
policies within open AI and chatGPT, and it'll be very
interesting.
I can understand from abusiness viewpoint why you would
(39:59):
be concerned about that.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
So he's worried about like things that people say
being picked up on their phone,like even maybe something he
says or like you know some ofhis trade secrets or something
like that, and then kind ofbeing available on an open
source platform, exactly so it'snot exactly that.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
it's open source, but , as far as I'm aware, we don't
really know how open AI logs andhow its AI learns, and so if
it's constantly pooling whatTesla engineers are saying and
there's a leak, or even justopen AI employees share that
(40:41):
data to another car company andreleases Tesla's secrets,
there's no legal protectionthere, really, other than what
their privacy policy says.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
So that's going to be interesting.
That's a really interestinginsight there.
I could definitely see issueswith that because, you're right,
they don't really know exactlyhow all this information is
being logged and we all know howgreat these phones are at
listening to us all the time.
Anyways, tiktok ads are goingto show up on my phone today
(41:17):
because Olivia was sharing herlove for TikTok and I'm like
that's going to be all over myphone now and now taking that on
a version of in a businessplace where these platforms
could be listening and feedingthat to chat GPT information's
(41:38):
database for it to answerwhere's the, where's the control
?
I could definitely see concernsbeing that with on trades and
stuff.
Uh, for sure, even like withthe you mentioned head tracking,
I mean I could see that beingused for, like, if you're
listening to spotify and you'relike, yeah, I like this music
and it's like, hey, I'm gonnaplay more of this because the
way their movements are, yeah,these things are getting more
(42:01):
powerful than we probably everimagined.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Uh, but I think that's a good concern.
Ashton, do you remember Ithought someone brought up a um
article about how the militarywas banning use of certain
devices for the same reason?
Do you remember hearingsomething?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I think that was, more specifically,
software-based um.
A lot of military personnelwere not allowed to use tiktok,
uh, due to how they weretreating data and how, more
specifically, how they could betreating data, yeah, uh I see
okay I don't believe that everhappened to any specific
hardware such as iphones or anyAndroid phone or anything like
(42:41):
that.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Okay.
So poll, would you be happy ifyour workplace banned?
I mean technically, brian, youdon't have a workplace, it's at
home.
So okay, let's ask that howwould you feel if iPhones were
banned in your house?
Would you like that or no?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Well, anybody that's listening, let us know.
Send us a text on the shownotes.
Text us a message.
Let us know.
What are your thoughts aboutbanning iPhones.
How would you feel about thatIf it was at your workplace or
anywhere Within?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
your own home.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I mean gosh, it could be anywhere.
I mean a lot of people don'twant smart.
I guess technically we all workfrom home don't want smart
speakers right now, because ofit being able to listen.
I mean, you don't?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
like siri and alexa.
So what I'm thinking morespecifically, though, is like,
if you are going to a joboutside of your home and they
said you can't bring in youriphone, what would you feel like
?
What would you think about itlike?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
put yourself in that position I think it would depend
on how it's a go ahead how itwas enforced.
How it was handled, I think,would be more concerning to me.
Are all these phones justgetting left in a bucket
somewhere where someone couldjust walk out with the bucket,
or are they actually setting upan area for you to where you can
(43:53):
leave your phone?
Maybe, like the little docks,you can get that clean your
phone.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Maybe you put your phone in there and it cleans it
and keeps it safe while you'regone and it's not just like
unprofessionally handled maybenext time we'll bring this up,
because I know we talked aboutit earlier and, uh, it probably
good to bring back, since we'renow officially launched the
podcast.
Uh, this might be a good thingto look at that brick.
(44:22):
I know like at home we havethat brick where you can use it
and it shuts down certain apps.
Is that something that couldpossibly be used?
I don't know, we can discussthat too, and then in a future
episode.
But these are really good,really good things to think
about.
Olivia, do you have something?
Speaker 1 (44:36):
oh, I was just gonna say I would say then go ahead
and buy me a work Android Smart.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, I like that, I like that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Personally, like part of me says you're not going to
tell me what I can bring to workand not bring to work.
Part of me says that Part of mesays like I love not having my
phone with me.
Me says like I love not havingmy phone with me, so like, for
instance, in my yoga class, likeI leave my phone in the car
because I don't want it to gooff and interrupt everything.
So I love what it feels likewhen I don't have my phone, like
(45:09):
the being able to focus moreand not thinking like hey, I
wonder if someone texts me orwhatever.
So I like that feeling.
But also I don't want someoneto tell me like I don't want
someone to enforce that on me.
Well, I don't want someone toenforce that on me.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Well, I mean, I'm wondering if there's got to be a
way, if not right now, but atsome point.
If this is the case, elon, ifyou're listening, make it happen
.
Man, you're a tech guy.
I mean a lot of these placesthey block different
applications you can't use.
Like we were just at Verizonand we were not able to load a
game app because you're on theVerizon's Wi-Fi.
(45:40):
So if you're at a workplace,can you put some kind of blocker
on Siri, like that's theconcern of us working with Siri?
Maybe it can't.
There's got to be a way to beable to block that.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Maybe it can't communicate to Apple servers or
open AI servers.
However, it's handled, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, that's been interesting.
This has been a good.
This has been been some good,good insights.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I hope everybody else One more, one more thing to add
to that.
It could even be handled wherethey have some sort of device
that is blocking a microphone,or maybe it's similar to a dog
whistle, where only themicrophone can hear a frequency
that we can't.
Something I'm going gonna bringformula one into this uh,
something that ferrari did Ithink it was a few years back,
(46:27):
uh, when they were doing a bunchof things where, like, all
these fans were coming in andcould see stuff that couldn't be
leaked.
They put stickers on people'sphones so there couldn be
cameras.
I'll show it to the camera soyou guys can see.
We'll have to add it in post,but they put stickers all over
people's phones Devices.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah that way if one of those stickers came off, you
would know.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
That camera isn't covered, so it could leak stuff.
Well, I think this is good.
This has been a great mindfulbites, I think.
With what you brought here,ashton, I think it's an
eye-opener that we have to bemore mindful.
These technologies arecontinuing to change the
securities, are changing the waythese platforms affect our
lives and impact our lives.
Just like what you brought upshauna that's changing olivia
(47:20):
are the way we use thesetechnologies as tiktok versus
google.
The all lives and impact ourlives.
Just like what you brought up,shauna, that's changing Olivia,
the way we use thesetechnologies as TikTok versus
Google.
All these things are changingand it's great for us to be
mindful about these changes anddiscuss it and see what does it
look like?
I mean, maybe the iOS shouldhave considered tying Syrian
with TikTok, not chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I don't know, just saying.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I mean, who knows, maybe, maybe they'll change it
up, but we would love to hearyour guys' thoughts and we thank
you guys all for tuning in forthe Mindful Bites podcast and
we'll check and we'll see youduring.
How do I close that guys?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I don't know.
We'll see you in the nextepisode we were supposed to come
up with a funny way to end, oh,yeah, oh, yeah just yeah, see
you next time, yeah, with that Iguess let's do this yeah, go
ahead, let's do what oh rememberhow, remember how I said like
each one of us can say a word.
Do you like that idea?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
still, I'm like really kind of stuck on it.
I know you're kind of stuck onit, but it might be hard to do
why.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
What are you?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
thinking it's 1220, so what are you thinking Rapidly
?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Mother, all of us.
Okay, so me, olivia and Brian,each one of us real fast in a
row we're going to say tick, andthen, ashton, you're going to
say boom, okay.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I'll start.
Are you ready?
Go fast.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Okay, tick, tick start.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Are you ready?
Go fast, okay.
Tick, tick, boom.
That did not work at all.
That did not work in the show,like that tick tick, tick.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
That's not gonna work , mom.
I'm saying like, as the verylast thing they hear, like you
still have an outro like thanksfor joining us.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Blah, blah, blah but what is the tick, tick, boom for
?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
okay, we're okay tick , tick, tick, boom.
It's like we're going to do allsort of like references, but
it's all-.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
And what is that reference to?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
It's a song I forget right now, but it's a good
reference.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
This is going in.
This is our outro, by the way,this is staying in.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Oh, this is no.
This is like People's alreadytuned out by now.
They're like I.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Sorry people, I'll shorten it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Sorry, all right, well everybody.
Hey, thanks for joining us forthis episode of the Mindful
Bites podcast.
If you enjoyed the podcast,make sure you click that follow
button.
And, hey, if you find thispodcast valuable to you, you
know, pay us for a couple.
You know, click that supportlink in the show notes and send
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We would love that.
We appreciate you guys.
(49:37):
Have a great week.
Send us a coffee.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
We would love that.
We appreciate you guys have agreat week.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Bye, bye, tick, tick, tick, tick Tick.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Boom, tick, tick Boom .
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Tick, tick, tick, boom.
No, olivia already went.
Boom, it's one piece ofdynamite.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's not multiple.
We're all for dynamite, so wecan all for save boom if we want
this show was dynamite boom,tick, tick, tick boom.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'm surprised you don't remember that, guys.
Yes, it can, oh all right, cool.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Okay, let me stop the recording guys, so this can
upload real quick.
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