Mindful Money

Mindful Money

Do you struggle with money? You’re not alone. Money is a means, not an end. It’s a necessity of life for sure, but more money does not always guarantee a “good life”. Money enables many aspects of modern life, but as a dominant consideration it becomes destructive. The paradox is that more time and energy spent on personal finance does NOT create better outcomes. Unlike many other parts of life, we can’t create better outcomes by being smarter, spending more time, or putting in more effort. Join Mindful Money author and experienced 40-year investor Jonathan DeYoe as he shares stories from artists, authors, entrepreneurs, and other advisors about how they mindfully minimize their need to think about money and get more out of life. If you aren’t happy with your finances, feel like money takes more time that it should, or want to place your financial decisions into the broader context of your life, this show is for you. Each episode will draw the line between the “enough” activities that the academics tell us are additive to family outcomes, and those “little bit more” efforts that take time and sap energy, but do NOT improve outcomes.

Episodes

April 30, 2025 46 mins
Elliot Kallen is a financial advisor, entrepreneur, and founder of A Brighter Day, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting teens struggling with depression and preventing suicide. After a successful career building Prosperity Financial Group, Elliot turned personal tragedy into action, combining his passion for business, philanthropy, and mental health advocacy. This week, I talk with Elliot about finding purpose through profound pers...
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Kelli Harding, MD, MPH, aims to make the world a kinder and healthier place for all. An expert in psychiatry, mind-body medicine, and public health, she teaches at Columbia University in New York City. She’s also the author of The Rabbit Effect: Live Longer, Happier, and Healthier with the Groundbreaking Science of Kindness. Dr. Harding has appeared on media and news outlets such as Today, Good Morning America, BBC, The New York Ti...
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Elizabeth Husserl is a registered investment advisor representative, financial advisor, and cofounder of Peak360 Wealth Management, a boutique wealth planning firm. She holds a BS in economics from Tulane University and an MA in East-West psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies, where she has also taught as an adjunct professor. Her experience spans nonprofit work throughout the Americas, and she is a highly so...
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Sonya Lutter is the Director of Financial Health and Wellness at Texas Tech Univeristy School of Financial Planning.  She leads curriculum and continuing education in the areas of financial psychology, financial therapy, and financial behavior. Sonya is also the owner of ENLITE.world, a research and training consultancy firm for financial planners and therapists. In this episode of Mindful Money, I talk with Sonya about how our ea...
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Melissa Osborne is an Associate Professor of Sociology at Western Washington University and an education and organizational consultant. Her primary research centers on social mobility, inequality, and the role that organizations play in shaping individuals’ pathways and experiences.  In this episode, I talk with Melissa about her powerful book, Polished: College, Class, and the Burdens of Social Mobility. Melissa shares her own jo...
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Alexandra Hudson is a writer, popular speaker, and the founder of Civic Renaissance, a publication and intellectual community dedicated to beauty, goodness, and truth. She was named the 2020 Novak Journalism Fellow, and contributes to Fox News, CBS News, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, TIME Magazine, POLITICO Magazine, and Newsweek. She earned a master's degree in public policy at the London School of Economics as a Rotary Scho...
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Jennifer Li is a certified financial planner, a licensed enrolled agent, and a chartered advisor of philanthropy. She's the Director of Financial Planning at EP Wealth, where she leads a team of over 30 financial planners as they work with individuals and families to navigate the goals and complexities of their unique financial situation. In this episode, I talk with Jennifer about the transformative power of financial literacy. J...
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Lorraine Besser, PhD, is a professor of philosophy at Middlebury College, who specializes in the philosophy and psychology of the good life and teaches popular courses for undergraduates on happiness, well-being, and ethics. She is the author of two academic books, The Philosophy of Happiness: An Interdisciplinary Introduction, and Eudaimonic Ethics: The Philosophy and Psychology of Living Well, and dozens of professional journal a...
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In this episode of Mindful Money, we break down the emotional reactions to elections and why we should separate politics from our portfolios. As election-driven fear and speculation rise, it’s important to understand why making investment decisions based on political headlines is a mistake. Markets react to policies, not personalities, and long-term financial success requires discipline, diversification, and patience. In this episo...
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Tim “Jai” Baker is the CEO of Luminous Wealth and a veteran of the financial advice industry. His mission is to guide his clients toward their deepest desires and true fulfillment by fostering a healthy, stress-free environment where financial and personal well-being are seamlessly integrated. He believes that wealth management should not occur in isolation, but rather as part of a holistic approach that considers the whole person....
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What makes a truly excellent financial advisor? In this episode of Mindful Money, we explore 12 key qualities that set the best advisors apart—from asking the right questions and providing clear, honest fee structures to offering proactive solutions and helping you stay on track during turbulent times. We also discuss why trust, emotional intelligence, and long-term planning matter more than flashy investment strategies. If you’ve ...
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Christine Benz is director of personal finance and retirement planning for Morningstar and senior columnist for Morningstar.com. In that role, she focuses on retirement and portfolio planning for individual investors. She also co-hosts a podcast for Morningstar, The Long View, which features in-depth interviews with thought leaders in investing and personal finance. She is a frequent public speaker and is widely quoted in the media...
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Maggie Jackson is an award-winning author and journalist with a global reach. Her new book, Uncertain: The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure, explores why we should seek not-knowing in an era of angst and flux.  In this episode, I talk with Maggie about the transformative power of uncertainty, challenging cultural assumptions about certainty and success. Maggie explains how embracing uncertainty fosters creativity, resilience, and ...
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Jessica Calarco is a Sociologist and Professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She is an award-winning teacher, a leading expert on inequalities in family life and education, and the author of Holding it Together: How Women Became America’s Safety Net.  In this episode, I talk with Jessica about how the U.S. relies on women as an unofficial safety net, burdening them with unpaid and underpaid caregiving roles. We discuss th...
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Vicky Reynal is the first financial psychotherapist in the UK, where she has pioneered an approach that applies psychodynamic psychotherapy principles to working with client’s complex relationship with money. Her award-winning book “Money on Your Mind: The Psychology Behind Your Financial Habits” is being translated in 8 languages.  In this episode, I talk with Vicky about the emotional dynamics behind our relationship with money. ...
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Jason Schappert is a serial entrepreneur and financial technology visionary dedicated to empowering individuals to achieve financial freedom. He is the co-founder of Moola, an AI-driven investment platform that simplifies complex financial concepts and provides personalized insights and recommendations to help users make informed investment decisions.  Jason’s journey from aviation to fintech highlights his passion for teaching and...
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Ed Vargo is the Co-Founder and CEO of Burning River Advisory Group and enlightenHer a community focused on financial mentorship for women. With more than 20 years in financial services, Ed helps women navigate long-term financial planning for all stages, including retirement and transitions related to divorce or spousal death. In this episode, I talk with Ed about empowering women to gain confidence and clarity around money. Ed sha...
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In this episode of Mindful Money, we’ll explore how to choose the right financial planning approach—DIY, digital advisors, or human advisors—based on your needs, goals, and preferences. We’ll highlight key questions to ask, common risks, and the value of consistency and mindfulness in navigating your financial journey with confidence. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:09) - Changes coming in 2025 (04:33) - Honoring my brother...
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George Kinder is an author and international thought leader. Known in the financial industry as the father of Life Planning, George authored three books on money as he revolutionized client-centered financial advice through experiential trainings for thousands of advisors from more than 30 countries across six continents. In this episode, I talk with George about his latest book, The Three Domains of Freedom, which explores achievi...
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Jordan Grumet found the spark to become a doctor after a deeply personal event reshaped his life's trajectory. The unexpected loss of his father, an oncologist, ignited a passion within him to practice medicine and instilled a unique vantage point that later melded seamlessly with his financial expertise. This convergence of roles has spurred him to explore profound notions like wealth, abundance, and financial independence with a ...
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