22 – Real Talk - What Gerardo's Food Sensitivity Test Revealed - Mindful Objective

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Welcome to The Real Talk, the podcast where we get honest
about what's really going on in your body and how to take
control of your health. I'm your host doctor Daniel
Spruill, integrative health practitioner and professor.
And today we're doing something a little different.
We're walking through a real food sensitivity test and the
results belong to none other than our Co host Geraldo or
better known as Little Yeti. So we want to talk about hidden

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gun imbalances to surprising food triggers.
This episode's all about understanding how your immune
system reacts to what you eat and what you need to do about
it. And so let's break it down.
Hello everyone, and yeah, this should be interesting or
terrifying. I haven't fully looked at the
results so I'm learning right along with y'all.

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You nervous? This is a Ted.
Yeah. So quick medical disclaimer,
this podcast for information on educational purposes only.
We did not diagnose, care or treat any illness or disease.
OK, so let's start the initial review.
All right, Geraldo, thank you for being here.
How you doing? I'm doing all right.
How about yourself? Good, good.
How's this weather treating you?It's good.
It's letting me do more more work in the garage, planters,

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etcetera. Yeah, so a lot of cleaning to
do. Oh yeah, every time I start a
project I need to like, reorganize all my all my tools.
Yeah, like sometimes I want likea whole, like a pole barn.
Oh. That'd be nice.
Yeah, so it's nice, clean, have a lot of room.
So when you come up with ideas and stuff.
So, all right, well, let's get into it.

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We're starting off with the yeast panel, right?
Specifically to IgG. That's George, George IgG yeast
allergy test. This test looks at your immune
system response in two major types of yeast, Candida albicans
and sacchromyosis. Serve a sake.
You want to say that one fast, which is common in things like

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bread, beer and nutritional yeast.
Right. And from what I understand,
Candida is kind of infamous in the gut world, right?
Like everyone's worried about candida overgrowth these days.
Yeah, and a proper that they're smart to to worry about it,
especially with so many people on antibiotics.
But yeah, exactly. So Candida is a normal part of

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the microbiome. We all have it in small amounts,
but when it overgrows often because antibiotics, high sugar
diet, chronic stress, and even alcohol can create lots of chaos
in the gut and beyond. And it's like, I think all of
those are everybody we know, right on antibiotics, high sugar
diet, chronic stress, even alcohol.
Speaking about a high sugar diet, we went out on Tuesday to

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Jojo's Bar in Naperville and theamount of sugar that we consume
that night gave both my wife andIA headache the following day.
Yeah, who? Who do you have to thank for
that? Burn she was.
I am beyond grateful for that. Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah.
So just in general, on your test, your test showed 7.11 for

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Candida Albicans and that puts you in the moderate to high
reactivity range. So what does that mean exactly?
Am I infected? Do I have Candida in my
bloodstream? Do you want Candida in your
bloodstream? Absolutely not.
That's all good questions, and no, you're not infected in a
dangerous way. This test looks at your IgG
antibodies, which means your immune system has encountered

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Candida frequently or recently. So it's like your immune saying,
hey, I've seen this before, I got to get a response ready for
it. So in your case, it strongly
suggests Candida may be overgrowing in your gut and
irritating your immune system. Could that explain why some of
the stuff that I've been feelinglately, like that brain fog I
was talking about or how I crashhard in the afternoons?

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Yeah, absolutely. So common symptoms of candida
overgrowth include brain fog, like you just said, bloating and
gas. This is a very typical one.
A lot of people experience bloating and gas and you know,
think it's like low stomach acid, high stomach acid, think
it's all these things when it's a candida.
So brain fog, bloating and gas, sugar cravings, mood swings,
fatigue, skin issues like rashesor acne, frequent sinus

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infections or allergies, migraines, headaches.
So when Candida overgrows, it can compromise the gut lining.
It contributes to leaky gut. People hear that a lot, leaky
gut, and it can even affect the nutrient absorption.
And that was one of my issues with, you know, why am I not
absorbing certain nutrients, right?
Why am I not absorbing protein? Same with, you know, a lot of

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vitamins and minerals. And it came back to issue with
Candida. Candida overgrowth.
So what do I do about it? Am I going to?
Am I going to be living on bone broth and garlic for the next 6
months? The answer is no, not unless you
want to. Do you want to?
I mean, I feel like that would be the most quickest and

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effective way to lower the candida levels down.
But let's be honest, I'm a foodie.
I I'll probably do that for a day and a half a day.
I was going to say a day and a half, but I'm going to be honest
with myself. I would probably be able to do
that for half a day. Yeah, it'd be easier if you're
single, right? Like when you have family and
wife and kids. Oh yeah, it's hard when people

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are eating a good meal in front of you and you're like, I can't
have it. And that's the whole thing at
the moment at our whole at our house, you know, it's like my
wife is trying to figure out meals that's good for all of us,
not just me, not just for her, but for everybody that we're all
going to enjoy. It's not, we're not making
three. I'm, I'm sorry, she's not making

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three to four different dishes per kid.
It's just we're making one largeamount.
And if it's leftover for the next day, I know it's going to
be good leftovers that we're going to enjoy.
Now, well, the good news is there are natural ways to bring
it back into balance, right? We want to clean up your diet,
cut back on refined sugars and yeast, heavy foods, right?

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Maybe bring in some antifungal herbs like oregano oil and
Priscilla acid. And you're already doing
oregano, right? Yeah, I do oregano.
And I got a feeling that if we would have done this test early
on before I started coming around oregano oil, it would
have been higher. But me personally, I feel like
it's lowering it down because I feel like my gut health is

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getting better. It's not the best, it's not
getting, it's not at 100% right now, but I feel like that has
helped me a lot. Yeah, and definitely probiotics.
I know you're taking those for awhile, especially strains like
Saccharomyces Bilardi which compete with Candida.
So is it more of like a reset than a punishment?
Yeah, that's that's the best of both world.

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It's kind of a punishment too, but it's what we have to do to
heal our body, right? So remember your overall yeast
marker, the saccharomyasis cerava, say come back low,
right? That means your body isn't
freaking out about yeast in general.
It's mostly candida we need to address.

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So Candida. So for those that don't know,
Candida is a specific yeast species linked to gut
overgrowth. Yeast refers broadly to various
non Candida fungal organisms tested.
I'm actually kind of relief. It gives me a reason to make
some of those changes that I've been putting off.
Yeah. Because especially now that you

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know what one of the issues are,such as the Candida, it's time
to address it. And as you saw like from my
results from years and years ago, I showed you mine, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
So you think I was at like you're at 7?
I think I was like 15 or 18 or something like that.
And it was because when I was initially years and years ago, I
was getting all those migraines.Every time I went to the doctor,

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I would have symptoms of like, oh man, my sinuses are closed, a
lot of sinus pressure, pressure in between my eyes.
Every time I would go, every three months I would get it.
And that's when my migraines first started.
Every time I go, oh, here's antibiotic.
So every three months they said,Oh no, it's not migraine, it's
sinus infection. That's insane.
Yeah. It wasn't though.

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So it's yeah. And then for me, antibiotics
after the second or third day, Iget really like, I like I I can
get stomach pain. Yeah, I, I believe it.
I mean, 'cause you're killing a lot of bacteria there.
So that's the power of data, right?
It helps connect the dots between your symptoms and what's
going on inside. And again, this is the first
piece, but let's keep going. So all right, so now we're

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diving into the dairy section ofyour IgG food map.
This one raised a few red flags.Three of the dairy marker showed
up as moderate range cow's milk,which you kind of expected whey
and yogurt. Wait, hold on.
Yogurt. That's supposed to be a good,
you know that's supposed to be good for you.
Probiotics, gut health, all that.

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You're totally right, it could. It could be great for gut health
yogurt in general, but for some people it's not, you know,
others, especially those with existing gut inflammation and
compromised digestion, that can be a trigger.
And you're seeing that with you,especially if your body's
reacting to milk proteins like casein or whey or even to the
bacteria strains that the gut barrier is damaged.
And you know that well. So then this means that I am

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confirming that I am lactose intolerant?
So not exactly. This test doesn't look at
lactose, which is the sugar in milk.
It looks at your immune responseto the proteins in milk.
So lactose intolerance is a digestive enzyme issue and
that's why a lot of times you dotake those digestive enzymes,
right? So IgG reactivity is immune
based and often delayed. So it's a little different than

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lactose intolerant. This might take hours or even
the next day for symptoms to show up.
But we know based on your actionmilk in general, it's easy to
see that you are lactose intolerant.
OK, So what are we talking here?Is it bloating?
Gassy aftermath. Yeah, but it could also be the
other symptoms to earth, you know, a lot of people, post

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nasal drip, fatigue, joint pain,eczema, acne, mood changes,
sinus pressure, brain fog, even histamine type reactions like
headaches and migraines. So yeah, because your immune
system is producing IgG antibodies to the dairy
proteins, eating them regularly can contribute to low level

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inflammation throughout the body.
And I eat a lot of cheese. I'm not going to.
Lie cheese is good. It is.
It is, you know. Yeah, I I'm kind of still
limited on certain cheeses I have and stuff too.
And sometimes cheeses are annoying because I want it, but
then I don't like the aftermath.And not to mention whenever you
go to parties and have like a cheese platter, there's like a

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cheese platter and it's like, I never go for it.
I'll just eat the crackers. And it's like just because I
know I'm not sure what specific cheese cube may or may not upset
my stomach. Yeah, I remember you said cheese
and eggs are you go to, But here's what's interesting.
Cheddar cheese and mozzarella came back as not significant.
So not all dairy is the problem.So why would milk and whey hit

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harder than cheese? Great question.
When it comes down to processingand protein structure, aged
cheeses often have lower levels of whey and casein, and then
fermentation process alters the proteins, making them less
reactive for some people. Meanwhile, cow's milk and whey,
which is liquid by product of cheese making, are more
bioavailable and can provoke stronger immune responses.

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If your gut is can't talk today.If you're gut sensitive.
So if I had a latte with regularmilk, that might be more of an
issue than pizza. Yep, and I know you love your
pizza. So yeah.
Yogurt, even though it's fermented, still contains both
casein and whey, fairly intact forms.

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That's why it showed up too. I also noticed goat milk and
sheep's sheep's yogurt were not significant on the list.
Yeah, that's because those proteins, while they're there,
they're still dairy. They're slightly different from
cow's milk proteins. Many people who usually react to
cow's milk and tolerate goat or sheep and dairy in moderation

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right? Not a lot so it's good to swap
out if you're easy into dairy free without going full vegan.
So where does that leave me? What's the move?
A recommendation would be removecow's milk, yogurt and away for
at least six weeks. See how you feel, energy,
digestion, skin issues, sinuses.During that time you could try
goat cheese or unsweetened almond milk.

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And if you want non dairy alternatives, and here's a tip,
check protein powders. A lot of them use whey isolate,
which you want to avoid for now.And that, that's a lot.
That's why a lot of people say, oh, man, you know, I, I think
now too think it's affecting so many people.
That's why so many manufacturersswitching to P protein.
Yeah. And P protein for a lot of
people too. P protein, you know, the

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different shakes I told you to try that time, right?
It P protein could affect you too.
Like sometimes a protein is justtwo in high amounts it could
cause stomach pain and like gassiness and stuff and it's
just just too strong, right? Slowly do it.
So if you do P protein, you knowif you don't do 32g instantly,
maybe start off at 5g and get your body used to it.

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Well, it would be, you know, it would be wise for me to look for
a good protein powder for me. But you know, I didn't think of
that. Most, most people's morning
shakes are probably way in yogurt blended together.
Now I know to stay away from that.
Yeah, and that's why I said too,it's like even the body health,

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the powder version of the the not just electrolytes with the
BCA as but the the protein blend.
OK, right. The the one you guys were
taking. Yeah, Yeah.
Did you get to order that yet? I think it comes in stock at the
end of the month. It comes up the this week.
It comes up this week. I know that because I know Kalia
is really like, that's the one that she got hooked on.

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So, and not only it tastes good,you know, but it's also a drink
that she's consuming. Yeah, and it's it's like a a
water, kind of like a juice. It's by body health.
You get them off the utilizer code, you know, with the 20% off
and stuff and order body health products and stuff too.
Just go to the website myphoneobjective.com.
You go to supplements and there's a link.

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You click on it, you sign up to the store and you don't have to
be a client. You could order as you please
and save 20%. But on there one of the things
are body health products and that's the the brand, you know,
famous, known for by Gary Breccaand my boy right there.
Yeah, smart guy. And on that, it's that body
health one forgot what it's called, but it's protein with

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BCA as the amino acids in there.And it's a, a different version
of protein. So it helps building blocks of
protein in your body. So it's different than like a
whey protein shake or something like that.
And you don't have those same symptoms.
So she could, you could still get 2030 grams of protein from
that or those pills too. And you won't have any bloating
or anything. So alternative.

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I've been taking the pills and Ilike them.
Yeah, I don't. I I don't want, I don't want to
say I don't notice a difference,but I know they're in my system
and I know they're doing me better than harm.
Yeah, so I think, I think 5 pills, the tablets equal 28
grams of whey protein. So like, you can't have whey

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but, and a lot of people can have whey.
So if you do have a shake out there and you're like, oh, every
time I have a protein shake, I feel bloated and gassy, You're
having a reaction to it, right? So that's what we're talking
about here today. So yeah, go ahead.
So would you recommend taking all 5 pills at once or just as
long as I get them in the day? Well, for your high amount of

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calories you need, you need like5 pills like in the like 3 * a
day, OK. You know, I mean, the the
benefit is the price isn't too bad on those body health ones.
And I think the tablet you get like 300 or 600 tablets in those
containers. No so or you just do the
protein, protein powder that she's doing the drink.
Yeah. It's just sometimes the drinks

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to me it's I get too full on toomuch liquid.
So sometimes those the tablet form are are nice.
More. Protein.
So yeah, so the combo in general, right, of that whey and
yogurt mix kind of thing. A lot of people do do that in
the morning. And smoothies, right, because it
makes them thicker and stuff like that too.

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If you did that combo, it would definitely start your immune
system. So a few small swaps can make a
huge difference. And the good news, none of it's
forever, right? We reintroduce these things in a
structured way after that elimination period.
So again, how do you kind of we'll talk about reintroduction,
but same thing, it's eliminated for a while and I know you don't
really do a lot of whey and stuff like that too.

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And it might be you're one of those people that can't have
whey, you know they. All right, I'm down to
experiment. Just don't take away my pizza
Fridays. How long you been doing that?
Poof, I've been doing that, man.It's been a while, but it's just
one thing that me and the familylook forward to.
It's we'll get pizza and then we'll just watch a movie

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together as a family. Do you guys ever go to mod?
I don't think I've I'm not sure that's the one downtown
neighborhood. Right, but there's one right
over by the movie. I'm 59 too.
No, I I'm thinking about. There's one downtown.
High 5 I think. No, it's so mod, right?
You make your own pizzas, so individual pizza about this big,

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you know, maybe 12 inches. OK, And they have kids size ones
too. They're like this big.
Yeah. They're all personal.
Cool. And so you put your own
ingredients, they have it kind of like you're going to.
So yeah, yeah, you pick your ingredients, what you want on it
and stuff. And you tell them.
But they have vegan cheese. Like I was telling you too, is,

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you know, we, we kind of talked out there about this, but kind
of if you can't have mozzarella,like say you do mozzarella
cheese and you do it once every other week, right?
It would bring down your reaction, but say on the say you
ate pizza every Friday went modsevery Friday, then you would
just say, OK, today I want like the vegan cheese.
OK, and that tastes pretty good.The vegan cheese.

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I like it. Andrea don't, but I like the
vegan cheese. It's good mozzarella.
They have they have different kinds too.
I I think they have other cheeses there too, and it's all
different pizzas. You could pick a a default pizza
off their list, right? They might have like 12 pizzas
on the wall. Do you want this, this, this, or
you just create your own? I always create my own and I'll
just put, you know, some days I'll do a tons of meat on there,

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little bit of cheese, little bitof sauce.
Sometimes I do BBQ chicken meat,you know, don't do it all the
time, but got to enjoy life too.So if anybody out there is just
hardcore, hey, you have to be 100% perfect.
That's not this podcast. This is reality.
So if you want pizza, you know what, enjoy pizza.
Just don't have it all the time and don't eat.
I mean there those pizzas I still only eat like 1/2 of the

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pizza. I don't need a full 1 myself.
So sometimes we'll split, but. Yeah.
Yeah, so, so it's. Hard.
It is hard, though, to, you know, try to eat correctly, stay
on a perfect path. I know at I know at work I get a
lot of crap when my friends would see me drinking like say,
say like a Coke zero. I'm like, hey, Gerardo, I

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thought you were like a Mr. Healthy and I was like, I don't
know, healthy ish, you know, like I'm I'm working my way,
like I'm not eating the same crap I was eating maybe three
years ago. I'm way better and if and I feel
way better, you know? Yeah, it's a journey people got
to understand through journey and that's why so many people

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give up because you get so many people that have to like, judge
you right. Oh, I thought you're Mr.
Perfect. Stuff like this too.
And just because I think the other stereotype out there too
is people look at people's body type and assume they they eat

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bad, right? I have a lot of knowledge when
it comes to nutrition, all this stuff.
And I always had an issue with weight, you know, based on
thyroid, based on again, Candida, I mean, could there's
so many things, testosterone levels, all that so many things
affect weight, your looks, all that stuff too.
So. Even if you're doing 100%,
you're a nutritionist, right? You're eating 100% healthy,

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right? But is that enough for your
body? And that's why a lot of people,
you look at somebody and they'reoverweight and you know what,
they eat the best diet in the world.
But is it issue with their thyroid?
Is it issue with their testosterone?
Like it could be so many other things.
So it's not always that. And two, those people that live
super strict, like we talked before bodybuilders, right?

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We know they stay strictly on diet and stuff like that too.
But again, what does that kind of eating do to the body too
long term? Because we see a lot of
bodybuilders die from heart attacks.
That's when your body, that's when your body goes to fight or
flight mode for a long time. Yeah.
And they don't pay attention because a lot of them do not do
testing, right. They just go based on looks.

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So that's where we try to changethat movement, but we want to
let people know it's not about perfection out there.
So yeah, again, I, I'm prime example, right?
IA lot of times I struggle. I could lose weight at times,
but I could look at food and gain 10 lbs in a week.
So that's without eating it. So it's for me.

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I, I, I struggle still, you know, a lot of people else do
too, but I'm not going to live 100% try to live that perfect
lifestyle and hate life. I'm going to enjoy food when I
do want to eat, I'm going to enjoy going out and I just going
to when I order something, I'm going to order on the more
healthy side, but I'm going to enjoy life.
And for the people out there, enjoy life.

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I mean, just get on a good journey, right?
Replace different things like wealways talk about, get on that
right path. Nothing's overnight and it takes
time for your body to heal and it takes time for your body to,
you know, switch to new diets. And that's why they say, you
know, if you change your diet, change it for that 21 days or
so, because then it becomes habit.
And I always noticed too, if youstart working out more, you

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automatically start eating better.
That's, I think because you think, man, it kind of is not
fun to be on a treadmill or doing all these weights.
And you just like I, I got a, you know, diet comes along, goes
along with this. So I got to eat better.
I want to say I want to. I think Claudia had posted
something. I said Do I want to be on?

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Do I want to be uncomfortable for 45 minutes or be
uncomfortable for the rest of mylife?
And I liked it. I was like, that makes sense
because it's like a workout's 45minutes.
And if you're consistent with that, it'll make you look better
and feel better in the long term, you know, versus something

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happens in a couple years and now you're sick and now because
you could have prevented it. Now, people don't look at that.
They look at when it happens. Like we said, when's your health
important to you? And yeah, they have a heart
attack during the bed. They're in a wheelchair now.
They care. That's like, well, you could
have worked out once a week. I mean, you got to stay moving.

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I mean, you move too much. But other people got to, you
know, get up guilty of that, right?
You want to get enough walking at least three times a week out
there, 10,000 steps as they say.But sometimes I know it's hard
for certain people that do have health conditions or bad knees,
stuff like that too. But whatever you could do to
move around, right? There's chair yoga, there's all

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these other things you can do, but a big one is nutrition,
right? So just you're not to be perfect
overnight, but slowly. If you're used to drinking five
bears a week, somebody, you know, maybe get that down to two
bears a week, get it down to 1 beer a week to no bears right
then, or alcohol in general. And then same for those people

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that eat fast food, you know, three times a day, five times a
week, you know, because their work schedule is so busy.
Well, you know what? Reduce that.
Now you're eating it only three times a week.
I mean, you'll notice a huge difference in your body just by
eliminating it two days a week, getting rid of it.
So it's a long process. So just take your time, slowly
change things out. Don't have to be dramatic,
because when it's dramatic, everybody quits.

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So don't be dramatic, sorry. Now let's talk about something a
lot of people misinterpret when they get these results.
The low reactivity category, right?
That's the usually we see it in green.
This is part of the test that trips everybody up, even for
health savvy folks. Yeah, I was looking at that list
and there was a bunch of food under low like almond, green

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tea, rye, even peanuts. I was like, am I supposed to
stop eating all that too? So not necessarily.
So looking at these papers here,low result means that your
immune system has made some IgG antibodies to that food.
So there is a mild immune response, right?
But it's not clinically significant as the moderate or

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high reactions. So based on looking at this,
think of it like this, none to lower, the better, right?
So not significant. This means there's no immune
concern. It's usually blank or super low
on the chart. So you'll see, I wish we had
kind of a video presentation of this and we'll make one in the

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future and do a new podcast on that or a video podcast to where
we're kind of explaining and letting you see the results.
But so you have different levels, non significant, low,
moderate and high. So again, non significant is
there's no real immune concern and you'll see if you get this
test done, it's usually blank orit'll be super low on that
chart. Then you have low, which is your

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immune system is watching the food but not mounting a strong
reaction. Then you have moderate.
This is your immune system is actively responding.
So it's, you know, the, the low it's hey, I'm there's a reaction
here. If you do eat this, if it's
moderate is like, hey, I'm responding to there's, there's
the the fire department analogy.There's a, you know, there's a

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possible fire in the house, but there's nothing there.
Well, you know, smoke detectors aren't kicking off yet, so it's
low moderate. Your immune system's actively
responding. So there's smoke, right?
So that fire department's responding to to that call.
So high, strong immune reaction.But that didn't come up on your
test, luckily. But a high reaction would be,

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you know, mutual aid, whole bunch of departments showing up
for that high alert. Wow.
So low is kind of like being on the watch list.
Yeah, exactly. So like the TSA pre-check for
food reactions so you're not detained, but you're you're
being scanned, right. The body might be slightly
irritated or it's reactively could increase if that food is

(26:52):
eaten daily without variation. So let's look at your results.
Almond showed up as low, peanutsshowed up as low, rye showed up
as low, Green tea showed up as low, Napa cabbage and yuca
showed up as low. You should be eating more
cabbage. I mean yuca though.
Yuca's good. My father-in-law makes a lot of

(27:13):
yuca. Yeah, we usually do just in that
the air fryer so nice and easy clean.
So in general just these foods are you want to keep eye on.
So if you're eating almond butter every day, or if it's
your go to snack is peanut butter on rye toast with a cup
of green tea that adds up. And the reason to restrict these
for a bit? You just described my entire

(27:34):
Sunday afternoon snack routine. There you go.
The repetition is key factor here.
So 1 almond snack isn't going tohurt, but chronic exposure to
mildly irritating food can causea cumulative inflammation,
right? Especially in a gut barrier is
already if it's already compromised like it is with you
with candied overgrowth. And again, it seems like

(27:55):
everything we talk about, and again, the whole reason I got
involved in integrative health was because all the issues I had
with Candida, with migraines, with all that stuff, weight
issues that led me down this journey.
And as you see here, Candida plays a big part in a lot, a lot
of things you feel. Well, the one thing I would
continue saying, I feel like as my journey continues, we've said

(28:19):
it before, this is a slow journey, not a overnight, you
know, change. But I known or I, I want to say
it's that I've noticed a different in my gut health, you
know, so it's AI know I'm doing something good for it.
I know I'm not just piling trashover it and over and over.
It's just my habits are changing.

(28:41):
The quality of food is different, you know, so.
Yeah, and everybody, like you'resaying, everybody likes it to be
a race. How many people?
January 1st comes around, they instantly run to the gym and
they go extreme for like a monthor two then they quit.
And they're still paying for themembership.
Yeah, they got the whole year, they signed up.
They're so, you know, hardcore for this gym and they did it and

(29:04):
they quit. And same thing happens with
this. It's like you got to, it's not a
race. So OK, I'm going to make changes
in my diet and I hope to improveand let's see how things go over
a few weeks. So I don't like eating that.
Let's switch to this. Let's see if I have a reaction,
you know? Yes, Well process, just enjoy,
enjoy life, but try to live healthier.
So we just get back to our the the low risk.

(29:29):
Would you recommend me cutting out all the low reactive foods
too? So it depends for some people,
especially those are autoimmune systems, chronic fatigue,
persistent skin issues. I would suggest removing both
moderate and low reactivity foods for more comprehensive
reset. So right in your case, since you
only had a handful of moderate results and you're not fully

(29:50):
blown autoimmune flare, I'd say focus on the moderates first,
but do try to rotate the low reactive foods maybe every few
days instead of daily. Makes sense.
It's funny, though. I used to think green tea was
like a healthiest the the healthiest thing ever.
Yeah. I think that's a lot of people.
I have a reaction to green tea too, and I was shocked at that

(30:11):
because I'm saying you hear everybody all you got to drink
green tea, green tea, green tea,green tea.
Since it shows up, you'd have todefinitely would be better for
you as black tea, you know? I'll definitely look into that.
So, you know, again, it's for most people, but if someone with
leaky gut or stress, immune system, even super foods can
become problematic, right? Those things that we think are

(30:33):
the healthiest of healthy could still cause a body to have a
reaction. Again, it's not always about
good or bad. It's about your body's current
tolerance level. Here's the kicker.
Low reactions might shift once the gut heals, right?
I've seen plenty of people retest 6 months later and what
was the lower moderate reactivity goes completely back
to normal. So this isn't a life sentence.

(30:55):
Well, not unless you don't take care of yourself.
So again, not at all. That's a snapshot of what your,
your immune system is doing right now.
Like at this time when we took the test and it gives us a, a
road map, right? We remove trigger support gut
healing, bring down inflammation.
In most cases, people can't reintroduce those foods without
symptoms later. And, and the big thing is like

(31:15):
it's a slow process, right? Reduce them for a set amount of
time, which we'll talk about. And you know, six weeks from
now, 8 weeks, try a a piece of food that was on your list, like
green tea and see if you have a reaction.
All right, so I'll cool it on the almond milk in my coffee and
peanut snacks for now. Yeah, I was surprised too that,

(31:38):
well, I I guess, right, You heara lot about peanut allergies and
stuff too. But for me, peanuts do not show
up on my food sensitivity test. But if I eat peanuts, it's an
instant migraine, like with an hour.
So I'm having a reaction but it does not show.
Up is it a regular? Is it like the candy coated
peanuts like the what is it the honey sugar I think or just like

(32:01):
the regular basic? Regular I could get raw peanuts
and I I love peanuts, I love peanut butter.
And the the other issue is I can't have chocolate.
I mean that's a well known trigger for people with
migraines is chocolate, but it'slike every protein bar for the
most part. It's contains.
Chocolate, every protein bar, I can't have almonds.
Every protein bar has almonds oralmond butter or almond powder

(32:25):
or it has a peanuts in it and it's like, well.
Well, if anybody gives you chocolate, you give it to me.
I'll give it for you. Yeah.
So yeah, it's not about being a intentional, right?
It's about being intentional, not fearful.
So you're learning how you listen to your immune system,
which is something most people never do until it's screaming at
them, right? We see that a lot.
It's like, well, you're in severe pain now, you're reaching

(32:48):
out, but you're not being proactive.
So that's why I tell people I was very shocked when I did my
first Test. It was probably like 8 years
ago, my food sensitivity test. I was very shocked to see that.
And that kind of taught me a lot, you know, like I would have
never expected. A lot of these things are
causing inflammation of migraines, but they were.
I never thought my fatigue or skin flare ups could be

(33:09):
connected to what I ate a few days before.
Yeah. And that's why a lot of people
don't understand like a food sensitivity versus allergy.
They think, oh, I don't have a reaction to it because I ate it
and I didn't have a skin flare up right now.
Well, could take, you know, fouror five days.
Usually it's, you know, 36 hours, but for some people it's
five days later. So at least now you do

(33:30):
understand, right? And speaking long term change,
wait until we dig into rotation diet that Mosaic provided the
labs are through Mosaic. That's kind of we run our food
sensitivity tabs. So they kind of provide a
different kind of weeks of different ways to to rotate your
diet. So that's where you'll really
start taking control. So, OK, Geraldo, this part might

(33:54):
actually be one of the most powerful tools for your test,
right? The four day rotation.
So it's a personalized meal map,right?
That you didn't know you needed,but you do.
Yeah, I saw that in the report. It looked kind of complicated at
first. Different foods on on different
days. What's the deal with that?

(34:15):
Yeah, totally fair, but once youget the hang of it, become
second nature. The purpose of the rotation diet
is to reduce repeat exposure to the same foods, especially ones
your mind, your body might be starting to react to.
So even if that reaction is subtle or hasn't hit the system
level yet, where you're getting actually a symptom that that's
the reason for this. So when you eat the same foods

(34:36):
every day, even if they're, you know, quote healthy, your immune
system becomes hypersensitive. It's like the background noise
becoming loud static, right? It's a you start initially you
hear a low static or that low ringing in your ears like we
have. Then suddenly it gets louder and
louder and louder and based on symptoms, right?

(34:57):
A lot of people don't know it all.
I mean, peanuts once a month, you don't really have a major
reaction. You eat it, you know, once a
week, maybe you're starting to have a reaction.
Maybe you eat it once every other day.
Now you're like, man, I'm havinga migraine nonstop or man, my
knees are killing me. What is this?
Who would ever expect it to be acouple peanuts you have three
times a week? Yeah, that's, you know, but it's

(35:20):
kind of like giving my body a break from the routine.
Yeah, and that's what your body needs.
So the rotation diet splits foods into four different family
or groups. You rotate what you eat and
you're not hitting the same protein, grain, dairy, fruit,
and vegetable families every day.
Your test report already did theheavy lifting.
It mapped out the customize mealplan for day one through day 4

(35:42):
based on your IgG results. So the stuff I reacted to like
cows milk, yogurt and wheat isn't isn't in there, right?
Correct. Any foods you have, it was the
moderate reactivity to you. They those were completely
removed from the rotation plan. So you want to keep those off

(36:02):
the table for now. What's left of the foods that
your immune system either didn'trespond to or only had a low
response to. And there was A and to like
we're touching this food sensitivity test at a high, you
know, level specific on certain aspects of it.
But like Geraldo's report is 14 pages long with a lot of detail

(36:23):
on based on Candida, based on foods, what he can have, what he
can't have, the reactions to thedifferent food.
So there's a lot goes into this,but it's only so much you can
fit on a podcast. And like I said, it definitely
be easier if we were doing like a slideshow to where you could
actually see the the IgG food map and understand kind of what

(36:43):
we're talking about. But for a lot of those people
that run these tests or, you know, this is giving you the
just basic summary of, you know,what we're looking for and how
to make changes. So.
That makes sense, I noticed things like goat's milk and
mozzarella cheese are still in there so I don't have to go 100%
dairy free. Right the again, the goal isn't

(37:04):
restriction, it's balance and variety.
So for instance, on day one, youmight have goat's milk with your
breakfast, but then you don't have any kind of dairy again
until day 4. So again, you're not having
everyday just like you. How you doing your diet now?
Like give us you know 3 days of what you would eat for
breakfast. Just the breakfast part.

(37:25):
I'll have an avocado toast. I'll do some water and juice is.
It day one, yeah. OK, day two I would morning I'll
probably have a toast. It could either be just a a
chocolate peanut spread with Jelly on it and then I'll have

(37:50):
fruit with it along with it. Remember to get that 30 grams of
protein as soon as you wake up. You are right.
It's hard. It's hard, but.
That's why you got that it is hard.
Yeah, take those, the, the protein, the tablets and just
force yourself to get into the habit.
Even if you do 2A day, I mean two in the morning, like right
before you eat, you know, have your electrolytes, take two of

(38:11):
those protein tablets and then eat your toast and stuff and see
how it goes. But like, you're eating eggs for
a while, so were you ever doing those each day?
Which ones? The eggs like we have eaten tags
like day one, day 2, day three, just I have, you know, four eggs
each morning. Yeah, I was having, I was having
two eggs hard boiled right before I went to work.

(38:34):
Yeah. And I think that was on your
list, right? Yes.
The egg, the egg whites and the egg yolk.
So yeah, technically a full egg hip.
For me it was. For me it was egg whites were on
the list and egg yolk was low, and I think that's where you're
at. I got to find the eggs.
So when you boil the egg, take the skin or take take the yolk

(38:57):
out and the yolk and then just eat the middle.
Man, you had a lot of wasted egg.
But you think when it comes to that, too, is that you think,
like, they make egg whites, right, separated already.
And you could buy egg whites in the store.
Yeah, but you can never buy egg yolk in the store.
Am I the only one that finds that gross for some reason when

(39:20):
you buy the egg whites, the 8, the egg whites in the container,
how they taste? Well, I've never had it and that
by itself, but it's just, I don't know for I guess it's just
me, but it kind of grosses me out that it's like in the milk
carton. I don't know.
Yeah, so his egg white showed upin the green, so low, but low,

(39:42):
high and same egg yolk was like kind of low on a low, low side.
So he can have more egg yolk, but same as even if he has eggs
because it's in the green, say like once a week, it'd be OK,
right? But eating it, you know, each
day it's going to cause a reaction at some point.
I got a food question. What if I do panda?
And I happened to to get fried, fried rice.

(40:06):
And there's, you know how there's egg in it?
Would that be considered or would that be enough to cause a
flare up? Now I know it's Chinese, I know
it's fake Chinese food, but I don't know if that specific egg
in the rice might have my body react to it or is just
everything in the rice. I think it's authentic.

(40:27):
I see Hispanics working there. You know, you're right, You're
right. There's no authentic places
anymore. Right, you are correct.
Yeah, and and now all the the Taco places are being Indian
ran. That is, what is it, the one
bias, the Doles Bros. When I had walked in there, when
I had walked in there once, I was like, what's going on here?

(40:47):
Yeah, no more Taco fresco. Taco fresco.
We miss you guys. It's.
You know what's my favorite Mexican food?
Cilantro. And the only one around here is
the one in Oakbrook. Yeah, I never had that.
Yeah, so. So with with the whole food and
everything. Oh no, like eating back on the

(41:08):
the panda stuff is if you're noteating eggs all the time and you
have it once in a great while, not a big deal.
OK, It's going to be the consecutive having this stuff
all time, unless you really tested high on it, you didn't
have any highs on mine. I had a lot of highs.
And that's because the higher candida you have, the more
reactions you have. That's why you got to heal that
gut and a lot of these reactionsgo away.

(41:30):
So. Got it.
So yeah, so. So again, you want balance and
variety. So yeah, do that day one, do
that goat milk. You know what?
Breakfast instead of almond milk.
Well, at at the moment, I ended up just swapping everything out

(41:51):
even though we have almond milk,I ended up we got oat milk now.
So that's what I'm going to transition over to.
But I, and like I said this before in a previous podcast, we
we've got an oat milk and I, I was OK with the flavor.
The wife wasn't, but I was. Yeah, it's, it's a custom taste,

(42:12):
right? A lot of these milks.
That's why I don't really have milk.
And no, like I don't do dairy, but the only dairy I can have
and tolerate. I I, I tried the A2 or A1 and I,
I just felt bloated afterwards. But I try over wise.
OK, no issues. It has to be the the process

(42:36):
that they do it. I would like to find a local
farm that sells raw milk. No.
So what happens for so for like the food day one and all that?
What happens if I accidentally eat something on the wrong day?
Like let's say I have almonds onday 2 and then again on day

(42:57):
three. So yeah, like, like before your
other example, got to not panic,right?
It's not perfection. Overall, the focus on strategy.
So. So the more consistent you are,
the better your immune system can settle down.
But missing a beat here and there won't wreck the process.
That's what we said. You don't have to be perfect.
Just, you know, slowly get on this path.
Oops, did it this day. You know, I got to get back on

(43:19):
schedule. So what's cool about this
approach that it prevents new sensitivities from forming to
eating the same 5 to 7 foods repeatedly is one of the main
reasons people develop food intolerance is over time.
And when I was dealing with migraines I swear only thing I
was eating is like 3 things. Chicken, plain grilled chicken,
nothing on it super plain. I was eating that every single

(43:42):
day. Sometimes Turkey, sometimes wild
rice and sometimes a pear. I, I think my staple, my meal
when I found out about food sensitivity and all that was
chicken breast, wild rice and a pear.
And then now once in a while I have like a protein bar or when

(44:03):
I develop a migraine. I thought, man, I need a Coke.
My body craved it. And then later on I realized
Coke was one of my major triggers, like Coca-Cola.
Oh. Wow, I I never, I have not.
You are the first person that I that I know that has a reaction
to Coca-Cola. Yeah, it's that cocaine in

(44:24):
there. The old A, That's the old one,
unless you get it from somewhereelse.
So tacos every night with the same tortilla, cheese and beef?
That's what you're talking about.
Exactly. So even if none of those foods
are a problem right now, your immune system gets bored and
eventually gets irritated. Rotating your meal helps
maintain tolerance and keeps inflammation at Bay.

(44:45):
This actually sounds like a goodreset.
Like I don't have to track calories, just follow a rhythm.
Yeah, that simplifies things. So it gives your gut lining a
chance to rebuild, which can actually help reduce food
sensitivities long term. Again, this is a long term plan,
right? It's a journey.
Plus, when you reintroduce something like yogurt, for
example, you know exactly how your body responds.

(45:07):
So that's where kind of we're talking to is like some people,
like we like to look at numbers and when you ran this test and
look at it. All right, so if we didn't run
the test and you just did elimination diet, how long do
you think you would have to do elimination diet before you
realize these things on your list that showed up, you know,

(45:27):
moderate or low were the rare cause A.
Really long time because yogurt is on that list and I love fruit
parfaits with the yogurt. And I, and I've said it before
here, the the lactose yogurt that I finally found I like it.
I didn't think it was giving me any issues, but on the test is

(45:47):
telling me, hey, it's it's it's on the moderate side, but it's
not doing anything dramatic. It's not in the red at the
moment, but it can be. So then I'll just cool it on
that specific yogurt and I'll have it, you know, I'll
reintroduce it later on. Yeah, so when you look like
again, so elimination diet, a lot of people say I don't want

(46:09):
to spend the money on eliminate.I don't want to spend the money
on a test. I want to do elimination diet.
So think of the time it would take like some people could do
it that don't eat a lot of things, right.
If if you only ate, say tacos, you only ate tacos, you only ate
plain chicken breast, you only ate rice and maybe one other

(46:30):
thing. It's easy to eliminate that and
keep track and say, OK, now I'm not going to have chicken for a
week. I'm just going to do beef or
something. It's easy to identify that.
But when you have, oh, I add cumin to this, I add this herb
to this, I add salt to this. Like I add there's eggs in here
because of the breading on friedchicken or whatever, you know,
like how would you be able to identify?

(46:52):
It just takes so long to do an elimination diet.
You can do it right? But the test is nice to look at
and you see the colors you see right away.
Oh, based on this test, I know these are things I'm going to
eliminate as of tomorrow or I'm going to rotate them out.
And it's nice seeing on a test. That's why I said at least, you
know, without doing a food sensitivity test, you're just

(47:14):
guessing if you have a sensitivities.
But when you do this now you have actual documentation and
metrics to show somebody and say, hey look, I could prove to
you I have bacteria overgrowth. Yeah, I would have not.
I would have never thought I hadany.
And if it wasn't for if I would have seen this test on my own,

(47:34):
if I would have ordered it on myown without, without a
consultation, a health coach, I would have not known that even
though it's low, it could still be a problem.
Because just anybody that ordersthis test without a
consultation, they'll see it andit's considered low.

(47:57):
So they'll continue eating it and might push that green to the
moderate and onto the red until they have a reaction.
Yeah. And that's where like when you
reintroduce, I say you stop yogurt for a few weeks and you,
you're on the same exact diet you're eating, but no yogurt.
And you were, that was gone for a few weeks and then you tried

(48:19):
it back and you're like, man, myback hurts today or the next day
or the next day. And you're like, man, who would
have thought yogurt did that? But you wouldn't know unless you
eliminated it. And, and The thing is, we tell
everybody this, when you eliminate things, you have to be
cared. Well, we eliminate and introduce
things so much that it's hard topinpoint things.

(48:41):
That's why it's like keeping a food diary lets you keep track.
Oh, yeah, for sure I ate that orfor sure I didn't eat that.
But it's hard because there be times I like, oh, I bought these
supplements, I'm going to take these supplements.
And then I get a bad migraine couple days later.
And I was thinking, oh, well, what did I have on Monday?
And I was like, well, I tried this different brand of vitamin
D3K2. I tried, you know, this TMG

(49:05):
supplement, you know, for homocysteine, I tried this,
this, and then I think, man, I tried four different things on
Monday, not counting what I ate.So it could be any of those
things. So, but if you eliminate stuff
and you know, hey, for sure, I'mnot going to have yogurt for a
couple weeks. And now it's like, you know
what, today's the day I'm going to try yogurt and I'm not going
to do, I'm only going to do it one time.
I'm not going to have anything all week Besides, I mean, you're

(49:28):
going to eat normal, but you're going to introduce additional
yogurt. Do that for a week and then see
how your body reacts and it might be good you have a once a
week and no reaction. But if you have it once a week,
like every week, and then it builds up the tolerance again
and in a month you're like, hey,now I'm having a reaction to
yogurt. You just know I need to have it
only like once a month. If it wasn't for the results

(49:50):
saying that that I should removedairy, including yogurt, me
doing this elimination process on my own, I would have probably
eliminated yogurt last. Yeah, that would have been the
last thing I would have gotten rid of while eliminating
everything else. And on the test, it shows that
I'm high on that to to, so pretty much to prevent it.

(50:14):
But what about meal prepping? Seems like it could make that
harder. Yeah, so it may, that's a,
that's a good topic. So it might seem that way at
first, but here's a trick. So batch prepping ingredients to
show up on non consecutive days.So look, look at different kind
of food you eat. So say you want to like quinoa.

(50:37):
Do you guys eat quinoa at all? No.
So say you did, though we'll sayjust quinoa in general because
that's a good one. Cook a bunch of quinoa for day 2
and then based on this, it'd be day four or another.
You can roast a lot of vegetables in big batches and
freeze them. The key is just organizing your
food by the day of the cycle, right?

(50:58):
So you saw the different you don't want to eat, you know, day
one day do day three all the same foods.
So say day one and day 4 you have the same foods.
So you're giving the your body abreakthrough out those days.
So can you, you could keep kind of rotating the plan and just
sort of reusing the plan monthly.
It's, you know, one time thing. All right, I'll give it a shot.
I kind of like the idea of building meals around my immune

(51:21):
system. It's actually cool.
Yeah, well, it's like when you go out to eat 2.
You know what to order, what notto order now.
No, Yeah. But I think we are.
I think any person that's used to go into restaurants already
knows their go to meal that doesn't that that they know that

(51:41):
it's not going to hurt them, that they know they're going to
feel great after they eat it andeven to eat.
And even if they eat a lot of it, they know that they're not
going to feel bloated or gross. Now I go cheesecake factory,
they have like 1000 different options I always get the same
thing. And then and then, and then
that's fine. And and then you'll see people,
adults that are still getting chicken tenders like the
restaurant. No, that's you all day.

(52:03):
Yeah. Chicken tenders, yeah.
But that's because you, you likehow you feel, because not only
you're eating, but you're also feel good when you like.
Yeah, of course anybody's going to feel good eating, but you
feel all right when you're done eating.
Yeah, so I'll, I'll, I'll do like if I go cheesecake, I'll do
like sometimes those chicken tenders they have or other times
I just do a, a burger on a lettuce wrap.

(52:27):
That sounds good. So they have good burgers there
too. So yeah, it's a game changer
overall. You're, you got to give your gut
a chance to heal without going extreme again.
You go extreme, you're going to quit this.
And then you just, you build that relationship like I have
with food. You just hate food because it's
like, well, what can I eat now? You know, and I eliminated so
many things when I was going through all that stuff and I

(52:48):
just got to the point now it's like I eat to survive.
I'm not a a foodie by any means.I am.
And and that's one of my problems why I gain weight is
because I'm not eating enough calories a lot of times.
And then my body goes into that stress mode and it just, every
time I eat, it just stores us fat.
So it's hard for if you don't eat a lot, it's hard to force
yourself to eat because how do you feel knowing you don't get

(53:11):
enough calories and then you force yourself to get enough
calories. How do you feel?
Oh, beyond stuffed. Overstuffed.
Exactly. And I hate that feeling.
I hate hate it, hate it. Like if I eat a meal the size of
the palm of my hand, I feel really good throughout the day.
If I eat like that every couple hours, it's when I eat like a a
full meal then I feel so bloatedand full and I I just hate it.

(53:35):
Like man, I wish I didn't eat. You know what I miss?
I miss Boston Market. I never ate.
There, no. To me, I've always said it, it
was like a. It was always like a like a
Thanksgiving dinner. They got the Turkey, the mashed
potatoes, the corn, and that wasand that has always been my
favorite. And they're all gone just about
so. But that's that's the kind of

(53:56):
meal that I am happy with something that has different
options. Yeah, I I remember walking in
there one time and to me it was like truck stop food.
I walked in, looked at it, and I'm gone.
I mean, maybe that's why my gut was so bad before, right?
Yeah, you you know, when your guts really bad, you crave the
worst of the worst foods. I think like the most greasy the

(54:17):
most this. And then when you get your gut
healthy and stuff, when you haveany of those foods, you feel
man, this is the grossest food ever.
Like right a little bite. You're like this tastes so gross
befoyle so good. Right now with the fat food, the
fast food, we haven't had much. It's every once in a while.
But now when we eat it, it's like we don't, well, at least my

(54:40):
wife and I don't feel the greatest.
It's it's we we kind of think toourselves, like, why did we do
this to ourselves? Like, we should have just gotten
the kids something. Because I also don't want to,
you know, like do a strict diet on them.
I want them to try if they see something, then they want to try
it. Yeah, they're going to try it,
but they're not having it every single day.

(55:00):
Or it's just I want them to still be kids and enjoy life
growing up. Yeah.
Did you let your wife know for Mother's Day you're taking a
McDonald's? Not yet.
Surprises. Out.
Not yet. Let's go ahead and release this
one after Mother's Day. Yeah, man, what do we do?

(55:21):
So, so let's so, so just understanding your test in
general, right. We understand that you have, you
know, these different sensitivities and stuff and we
wouldn't have known again if we didn't test.
The test wasn't too expensive, but it gets you an initial path.

(55:41):
That's why I say food sensitivity test initially is
like the foundation, OK, based on this, let's adjust your
nutrition and let's do this over, of course, a couple
months, right? And then slowly eliminate stuff.
Yeah, and hopefully better energy digestion and less of
that afternoon crash cuz that like there will be days that

(56:03):
like lately I don't know what I'm doing and I know I'm eating
better that I'm able to get out of work after I did 9 hours and
then I still have enough energy to cut the grass or continue
building in the garage. So that to me is a win.
Yeah. So if you keep track of how you
feel across these four days using something like your food

(56:26):
or symptom journal, so you stillhave that, right?
Yeah, Yeah. And then probably already
probably learned a ton about your body, but you learn even
more now that you know to eliminate things.
So you probably start to see patterns.
And that's where we say like food tracking in general,
everybody should track their food.
I mean, you have any symptom, right?
You have rashes on your body, you have migraines, you have

(56:47):
knee pain, you have back pain, you know, because like
arthritis, right? Based on inflammation.
Well, is it really arthritis or is it based on your foods and
inflammation in the body, you know?
That is true. This might be my nerdy
experiment for the month now, but just to kind of piggyback
off of what you just said about the inflammation, This is why

(57:12):
seeing a chiropractor is beneficial as well.
You know, 'cause not only it may, you know they could also,
you know, for Doctor Tejeda, he's able to scan to make sure
you don't have no nerve damage. Yeah, so, so there.
Yeah, there's different tests like chiropractors too, you

(57:33):
know, benefit is that, you know that brain gut connection we're
talking about in the spine. And also, you know,
chiropractors can, you know, if you need it and send you for MRI
send you for they could do a lotof X-rays in their offices,
stuff like that too. So so you got to find out too is
like your issue. Is it related to because you

(57:53):
know, your, your spine sideways,it's like AV instead of a line,
you know, it's like, or an S yousee that a lot and it's like
could be any of those things causing issues.
But you know, that's where it's like work hand in hand.
There's different things out there that needs to be done.
But I think we see a lot with somany people go to the doctor
because they have joint pain right away.
Oh, it's arthritis, you know, without scanning, without doing

(58:15):
anything, they just say you havearthritis, give you medication.
But you know what, maybe you need a, you're low on omega-3 to
six ratio and you need to increase your Omega threes and
take different herbs and stuff, supplements to get your
inflammation down and eat proper.
And maybe you won't, you don't have arthritis, you know, maybe
it's just that inflammation, we get the inflammation down, you
don't have the pain anymore because we see that a lot.

(58:36):
So. All the time.
So, you know, like you said the experiment for a month, you
know, I would go a month to three months, you know, still
rotate it out and then see how you feel.
But so in our last segment, right, we'll wrap this up, talk
about next step soon here. But you know about gut support
and how to use the info without getting overwhelmed.

(58:57):
So all right, so we did talk about, you know, your candida
levels, also your dairy reactivity.
These are important on your foodlist and the low reactive foods
and the great killer rotation diet.
It's not that hard to understandonce you kind of look at it.
And a lot of stuff in the rotation may not be stuff you
eat. So you substitute what kind of

(59:19):
was provided based on what you eat, right?
You just say, OK, well, if day one you're, you know, day one
and day 4 you have chicken, Day 2 you have Turkey, day three you
have beef, you know, or a vegan vegetable, vegetarian meals, you
know, it's easy to rotate it out.
And then, you know, so day 4 youhad chicken again.

(59:40):
Then you don't have chicken again till day eight.
No, it's, it's easy once you geton the habit.
Yeah, it's not hard. So sorry.
So we broken down those. So what do we actually do with
all this information? Right.
I think that's a common question.
I'm not trying to print this outand carry it around like a food

(01:00:02):
Bible. I want to make, you know?
I want to make it useful but notoverwhelming.
Yeah, I mean, The funny thing isI used to when I did my food
sensitivity test, in the beginning, I would carry it with
me when I go food shopping or out to restaurants.
But now it's like you save it asAPDF to your phone.
No, yeah, go through it. And I've noticed that the more

(01:00:24):
advance that I get in my studiesand the food and what's what,
what ingredients, what it's likeI'm able to just get the stuff
right away without even second guessing it.
Or is it because I'm all I've already gotten it, I like how I
feel when I eat it and so on. Yeah, because now you know, like
the higher on your list, so you know, like certain dairies, you

(01:00:45):
know, mozzarella's that have moderate same yogurts, green tea
and all that stuff. Tori, you just could write a
list of, hey, these eight thingsI'm going to avoid for for a
little bit. But so, so you know, we said
before it's not perfection, it'sprogress.
So slow journey. Best part is this isn't about
restriction for the sake of it, right?

(01:01:06):
You're doing it for a reason. You want to give your gut immune
system a chance to breathe. So here's practical steps.
Let me look at this. Well, let's make a step by step
plan here based on your test results.
So first take a break from foodsthat showed up in modern IgG
reactivity. So that was cow's milk, whey,
yogurt. Also, given your candy to

(01:01:28):
overgrowth, we want to limit anything that feeds it like
excess sugar, alcohol, processedcarbs, and like kombucha or
beer. I know you don't drink, so don't
have to worry about beer. So I'm cutting out some comfort
stuff. How long am I looking it?
I'd probably be around usually six weeks, 6 to 8 weeks.
That's usually long enough to notice big shift in symptoms,

(01:01:50):
especially energy, digestion, mental clarity, and skin.
During that time, lean on foods that show no reactivity and
follow your rotation plan. Sounds good to me.
Yeah, so it's huge, right? Track your symptoms.
That's where the food diary comes in.
So that notebook or you can use your food diary app, log your
meals, energy levels, mood, sleep quality and physical

(01:02:11):
changes like bloating, joint stiffness and brain fog.
So it's not about calories or macros, it's more like a
feedback loop. Yep, exactly.
You're collecting data on yourself, right?
Most people eat the same things daily and have no idea which
food is dragging them down. This tracking makes you more
aware. And if the symptoms improve with

(01:02:33):
certain foods you that you're out of, then your body's
confirming that your immune system was playing a role.
So yeah, So if you eliminate these foods and you start to
feel better, especially when youeliminate for like 6 weeks, you
start to feel better and then you slowly introduce it and you
have a reaction, you know, rightaway.
Or when you eliminate these things that are high, let's see
how you feel six weeks from now.Say you eliminated all these

(01:02:55):
things that are in the moderate and some on the low high side.
Say you eliminate those for six weeks and then just analyze how
do I feel right now? And then some people might feel
better a week after, right? But eliminate them for six weeks
at least and see how you feel. And you might say I, I don't
even want to try it, you know? I agree.
Yeah, that's definitely worth a shot.

(01:03:16):
Yeah. So, so the other thing is gut
support, right. So since you have elevated
Candida IgG, we also want to support gut health during this
time. So that means a broad spectrum
probiotic with Lactobacillus andSacrum IASIS Bilardi, possible
some antifungal herbs like oregano oil, supracilic acid and

(01:03:36):
berberine. Berberine's a great one.
I do have one of the products here that have kind of all of
them combined sweet, a digestiveenzyme with meals, especially if
you feel bloated after eating. And some people, you know, based
on organic acid tests, which will really show that if you
have issues with enzymes and yousay need to take a daily enzyme
with every time you eat a big meal.

(01:03:58):
If you feed a small meal, a lot of people don't need it.
But when they eat a large meal, a lot of times they feel
bloated. So that's where a digestive
enzyme comes in. And don't forget the basic we
always harp on hydration, quality sleep and reducing
stress. It all adds up.
I can do that and honestly if itclears up some of the afternoon
crashes and sugar cravings, I'm in.
Yeah, I think you'll feel betteron those walks, right, because

(01:04:21):
it's easy to you're walking a lot.
Well, you just grab something quick, right?
Might be in your pocket, might be those peanuts and.
Not anymore. Not anymore.
So, so based on gradual reintroduction after 6 to 8
weeks of elimination and gut support, we reintroduce those
moderate foods. So say the peanuts or yogurt,
one at a time, spaced out by a few days.

(01:04:42):
So again, you might try yogurt again, see how you feel over 72
hours. Then, you know, maybe that week
or the next week you try cow's milk and see how you feel then.
What if I feel fine after reintroducing it?
Great, then you know your gut's in a better place and the food
might not be an issue anymore. But if the symptoms are fatigue
or digestive trouble return, that's a sign to hold off longer

(01:05:05):
and limit the food frequency again.
So even after reintroduction, keep using rotation framework.
It's not temporary diet, its lifestyle upgrade.
It trains your body to handle more variety without getting
inflamed. So again, that rotation and
people out there, we just start this now, if you're eating
chicken daily, you got to rotatethat out, right?

(01:05:25):
If you're eating steak daily, rotate that out and even like
you're for carnivore diet, right?
Eat steak one day, chicken next day, Turkey next day, seafood
the next day, then go back. Yeah.
So this is kind of like learningfood boundaries that change over
time. Yeah, your immune system is
dynamic. You're not stuck with
sensitivities forever. But ignoring them just pushes

(01:05:47):
your body closer to burnout, right?
It's that does Doctor Cabral always says it's that water
bottle water barrel effect. You, you have so much, you have
so much room in a water barrel or like a bucket.
You keep eating these things that keeps causing your bucket
to overflow. You reduce some, it reduces that
water in that bucket. And then once you have it once

(01:06:08):
in a while, your buckets not overflowing.
So whole test is a snapshot thatlets us step in before the
bigger problem like autoimmune disease, chronic fatigue or gut
breakdown. I'll be honest, I used to roll
my eyes at food sensitivity stuff.
I thought it was just another fab.
Yeah, to to use how your paperwork.
So yeah, that's the difference right here is right.

(01:06:30):
This is your immune system, yourbody, your data.
You see it on paper now. Now you got a plan to work with
something to work with you, not against you.
And you know what? This feels doable, not extreme.
I can make the swaps, rotate my food and see how I feel.
Worst case I get a little leanerand less bloating.
Not not a bad trade. No, then two, right.

(01:06:53):
The whole goal is, you know, long term health.
That's what we're doing all thisfor.
It's not for, you know, change how I look overnight.
It's kind of where we want to golong term on that road and we
want to live long healthy life. And that's the reason we're
doing all this. So food isn't the enemy.
Your body just wants to be heard.
And now you're finally listening.

(01:07:14):
All right, let's do it. No more yogurt parfaits in the
morning. And maybe, just maybe, I'll
journal. I I will journal my foods like
you said. Yeah, the not just foods, but
also do you know how your body feels and stuff too?
But yeah, it's, you know, alwayswhat I wanted to hear for all
the months me harping you on do food tracking, do food tracking,

(01:07:37):
do food tracking. Yeah.
So yeah, if you're listening andthis resonates with you, go
check out food sensitivity testing.
You can go to mindfulobjective.com For more
information. And if you go to
labssomindfulmindfulobjective.com/labs,there should be now a breakdown
on food sensitivity test and youcan just order and where I would

(01:07:57):
recommend the more advanced tab,the not tab test is because the
more advanced one includes yeastand candida just at a high
level. But at least you could see if
you have a, you're starting to get bacteria overgrowth.
The main test for it is organic acid tests that really show if
you have bad bacteria or bad fungal bacterial overgrowth.

(01:08:19):
But at least on this test, you have a kind of a overall heads
up on, hey, you do have a candida and yeast was detected.
So that kind of sums it up. So thanks for turning into this
episode of Real Talk. Whether you're just hearing
about food sensitivity testing or you're wondering why certain
foods don't sit quite right, I hope today's breakdown gave you
a better understanding how your body communicates their

(01:08:41):
symptoms. A reminder, this podcast for
information on educational purposes only.
We do not diagnose, cure or treat any illness or dis ease,
not dis ease, but dis like your body's out of ease, right?
Dis ease. So what we covered today is
about fair restrictions, about clarity.

(01:09:01):
All right, we want you to be clear.
We want you to know your immune system is reacting to food you
eat. You can make smarter choices,
ones that don't, one that does support healing instead of
holding you back. And another, another quick thing
before we go is have you ever went to a medical doctor and
you're like, oh, let's run a food sensitivity test.
See if foods are causing inflammation in your body.

(01:09:24):
I personally have never done it but I just because I know that's
something they don't offer. Yeah, not at all.
They don't even talk about it. So again, you go majority
medical doctors because they treat symptoms, right?
So you have high inflammation. Here's a pill to take for your
inflammation, not to identify the root cause and help you
rebalance your body so your bodyheals itself.

(01:09:46):
They're there and they're trained to no fault of their
own. It's what a medical doctor does
is and you're seeing a lot of like integrative health medical
doctors now get out there, see alot on Twitter X, but their main
thing is not going for the root cause.
But that's our an integrative health side.
What we do, we look at that rootcause to help your body heal
itself to hopefully get you off medication.

(01:10:08):
So today's episode guide you thinking.
Head over to mindfulobjective.com/podcast to
submit your own questions, learnabout lab testing or find
resources to port your next steps.
And be sure to follow us on Instagram and Facebook at
Mindful Objective. And again, we'll put in the show
notes Geraldo's information and my other information.
And if you're sitting sitting there thinking, man, I might be

(01:10:31):
reacting to stuff too, you're probably right.
I was shocked by some of my results, but this test didn't
make me feel limited. It made me feel empowered.
Now I actually know where to start.
Yeah, and elimination diet. Where were you started?
I wouldn't. I don't even know because like I
said, yogurt would have been my last thing to eliminate.

(01:10:54):
Well, it's hard unless you're eating 5 things, it's
elimination diet is pretty hard.So this kind of speeds up that
process. So that's what it's about,
right? When you listen to your body,
everything changes. No more guessing, no more cycles
of fatigue, fog, inflammation, just clear direction.
So start where you are. Choose one thing, one food, one
habit, or one way to support your gut and rebuild from there.

(01:11:16):
One better choice at a time. See you soon everyone.
Exactly. Until next time, be well, stay
curious, and give your body whatit's really asking for.
You only get one body. Take care of it.
Stay well.

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