February 12, 2025 • 39 mins
Our discussion connects emotional wellness, endometriosis, and PCOS, revealing how intertwined these elements can be. We explore practical strategies for managing symptoms through diet, exercise, and community support while emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and informed healthcare choices.
• Exploring chronic conditions' emotional impact
• Dietary strategies for reducing inflammation
• The role of natural remedies in symptom management
• Importance of low-impact exercise for physical and mental health
• Mind-body practices like meditation for emotional wellbeing
• Navigating fertility challenges as a shared journey
• The significance of community support and connection
• Overview of hormonal therapy and emerging treatments
• Emphasizing self-love and proactive health advocacy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.
So we're diving deep today intothe connection between
emotional wellness,endometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, fascinating stuff .
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've got some excerpts from Mindful Balance
Emotional Wellness for Womenwith Endometriosis and PCOS by
Dr Damaris Grossman.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Sounds like a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, should be just the thing for this deep dive.
What we're going to do is pullout the most valuable empowering
takeaways for you, so you canactually you know use this stuff
, feel more in control.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, it's incredible how much research is
really showing us more and moreabout this connection.
You know, for a long time theseconditions were just viewed
through a physical lens.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, it's all about just managing the symptoms.
Exactly Not really likeaddressing the whole person.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, exactly.
So before we kind of jump intothe practical stuff, can you
give us a super quick overviewof endometriosis and PCOS, the
risk?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
grows outside of it, and this can lead to like pain,
inflammation and even scarring.
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
PCOS or polycystic ovary syndrome, is a hormonal
disorder that often involvesirregular periods and cysts on
the ovaries.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, and I think what's really important for
people to understand is thatboth conditions can have a very
significant impact on someone'semotional well-being.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Imagine dealing with chronic pain, unpredictable
cycles and maybe even fertilitychallenges.
You know.
It's no wonder that anxiety anddepression are really common.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Absolutely.
It's almost like your body islike betraying you, and then, on
top of that, you feel likeyou're failing somehow, because
you can't just you know tough itout.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we hear that a lot, and then the fact that some
symptoms overlap between thetwo can make it even harder to
kind of pinpoint what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh, absolutely.
It's going to be incrediblyconfusing for someone going
through all that.
From what I've seen, though, DrGrossman offers some really
practical strategies for takingback control.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
She does, and one of the most powerful strategies
which might surprise some peopleis diet she does, and one of
the most powerful strategieswhich might surprise some people
is diet.
Ok, so let's unpack this.
What's the connection therebetween what we eat and these
conditions?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It all comes down to inflammation and hormonal
balance.
You see, both conditions, bothendometriosis and PCOS, are
often linked to higher levels ofinflammation throughout the
body.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So that inflammation can actually make the symptoms
worse.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Exactly, yeah, it's like adding fuel to the fire.
So Dr Grossman suggestsadopting an anti-inflammatory
diet as a core strategy formanaging both.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And she gets really specific too about which foods
to embrace and which ones tomaybe avoid, like she's all
about adding in fatty fish, flaxseeds, walnuts, you know those
omega-3 powerhouses.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, and those omega-3s are key because they
directly counteract thoseinflammatory processes that we
talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And it's so fascinating to me how like
directly diet can impact theseconditions.
She also highlights things likeberries, leafy greens,
cruciferous veggies likebroccoli.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's about flooding your system with antioxidants,
fiber things that help your bodythrive but she also points out
the importance of cutting backon processed foods, refined
sugars, trans fats.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And potentially dairy .
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
For some people.
So she's not just saying, likeyou know, eat clean.
It's a much more targetedapproach.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right, and what's so powerful about this is how it
impacts not just the physicalsymptoms but also the emotional
well-being.
Stable blood sugar, forinstance, can make a huge
difference with mood swings andirritability.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh, which is huge when you're dealing with so much
already.
Just like give me all thestable moods I can get.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely yeah.
It's about taking back controlone mindful choice at a time.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So we've covered diet .
What about natural remedies IsDr Grossman?
She's suggesting we all startbrewing up herbal concoctions.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Not quite, but she does dive into the potential
benefits of certain herbalsupplements.
Again, very specific about whatcould help and why.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, give us some examples, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
One that stands out is Chase Treeberry, also known
as Vitex.
It's often used to supporthormonal balance, which can be a
game changer for PCOS.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, I've heard of that one it seems to be gaining
in popularity.
Yeah, there's also turmeric,you know, classic for
inflammation.
You can add it to your food ortake it in supplement form.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And turmeric lattes are all the rage these days, so
that's like a win-win,definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And Dr Grossman also highlights ashwagandha.
It's an adaptogen, whichbasically means it helps your
body manage stress moreeffectively.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So it's like a chill pill, but from nature.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, in a way yeah, but it's important to remember
that, while these herbs arepromising, the research is still
ongoing and not all supplementsare created equal.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And it's always smart to talk to your doctor before
adding anything new to yourroutine, right?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh, absolutely.
Everyone's different.
What works for one person mightnot work for another, and
speaking of things that can havea different impact on everyone,
let's talk about exercise.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, but hold on.
Does exercise really make sensewhen you're dealing with pain
and fatigue Like, wouldn't it bebetter to just rest?
You know that's a commonmisconception.
While rest is definitelyimportant, the right kind of
exercise can actually beincredibly beneficial for both
conditions.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm guessing we're not talking about like high
intensity workouts here.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not at all.
No, dr Grossman is all aboutlow impact activities yoga,
swimming, walking things thatget you moving without putting
too much stress on your body.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
It's about finding that sweetspot where you're challenging
your body gently but notoverdoing it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Exactly, and the beauty of these activities is
that they can be just as goodfor your mind as they are for
your body.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, I definitely found that to be true for myself
.
Even a short walk cancompletely shift my mood
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's amazing how powerful movement can be for our
emotional well-being, and forthose who tend to get caught up
in an all or nothing mindset,it's a great reminder that small
, consistent efforts can make abig difference.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Love that.
Small steps, big impact.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And if you're looking for even more ways to you know,
find that inner peace and kindof manage the emotional roller
coaster that can come with theseconditions.
Dr Grossman recommendsexploring mind-body practices
like yoga and meditation.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'm all for those, but how do they actually help
Like?
Do they really live up to thehype?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, yoga is fantastic for gentle movement,
but it's also a powerful way toconnect with your body and
become more aware of yourphysical sensation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Which has got to be especially important when you're
dealing with, you know, chronicpain and discomfort.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Absolutely.
Yoga can help you learn to tunein to your body's signals and
respond to them with compassionrather than judgment.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So it's not about like pushing through the pain,
it's about understanding it, andwhat about meditation?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I used to be pretty skeptical, but I started
incorporating even just a fewminutes of meditation into my
day and it's made a hugedifference.
For me, it's like creating asanctuary for your mind, a space
where you can find stillnessand peace amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes, like a mental reset button.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That sense of presence can be incredibly
grounding, especially whenyou're feeling overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Okay, so we're building a toolkit here for you
Diet, natural remedies, exercise, yoga meditation.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And there's one more incredibly important piece to
this puzzle.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Community support.
It's hard to overstate theimportance of feeling connected
to others who truly understandwhat you're going through.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, it's like having a team of cheerleaders in
your corner reminding you thatyou're not alone in this, but
where do you even begin to findthese supportive communities?
Any tips for our listener?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Absolutely.
Online forums and social mediagroups are great places to start
.
There are tons dedicated toendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And don't forget about local support groups too.
Sometimes that likeface-to-face connection can be
really powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Definitely, and many health care providers have lists
of support groups or canconnect you with relevant
organizations.
It's amazing how much is outthere if you know where to look.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And even if it feels a little intimidating at first,
I think it's worth exploring.
Just imagine the power ofsharing experiences, yeah,
coping strategies, informationon treatments and resources.
I mean it's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It is, and now it's time to talk about a topic that
can be incredibly sensitive butincredibly important for many
women with endometriosis andPCOS.
Ok, fertility challenges.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, this is a big one, and I think it's important
to acknowledge right away thatthere's no one size fits all
solution here.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You're absolutely right.
Dr Grossman discusses bothmedical and natural approaches
to enhancing fertility, and it'sa very personalized journey.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Can you give us a kind of a general overview of
what those approaches might looklike?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
On the medical side, you have things like hormonal
therapies, medications tostimulate ovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I imagine the potential risks and benefits of
each option can vary quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
They do.
Yeah, it's crucial to have openand honest conversations with
your health care provider tofigure out the best path for
your individual situation.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because what works for one person might not be the
right fit for another.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Exactly, and, alongside the medical aspects of
treatment, emotional support isabsolutely crucial.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Because, let's be real, fertility treatments can
be incredibly stressful, anxietyinducing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Absolutely so.
Having a strong support system,whether it's your partner,
family, friends or therapist, isparamount.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's about having people to lean on when things
get tough and knowing you're notalone in this journey.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And now let's dive into another key aspect of
managing these conditions.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
OK.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hormonal therapy and medication options.
This is where we really getinto the nitty gritty of
conventional medical approaches.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
OK, can you break down what kind down, what kind
of options are out there?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
One of the most common is hormonal birth control
, which can be in the form ofpills, patches or hormonal IUDs.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And how do those actually help with endometriosis
and PCOS?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They work by regulating hormones and often
suppressing ovulation, which canreduce pain, make periods more
regular and even minimize cystformation.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So it's about creating a more stable hormonal
environment in the body.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Exactly, and for many women, this can make a huge
difference in their symptoms andtheir quality of life.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Are there downsides to hormonal therapy, though?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like any medical intervention, there can be
potential side effects.
It's important to discuss thoseopenly with your health care
provider to make sure thebenefits outweigh the risks.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Because, again, what works for one person might not
work for another.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Absolutely.
It's a very personalizeddecision.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I know there's been a lot of buzz lately about new
medications and cutting-edgeresearch in this field.
Can you give us a little sneakpeek into what the future might
hold?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's a really exciting time.
Researchers are constantlysearching for new ways to target
the root causes of theseconditions, rather than just
managing the symptoms.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's encouraging to hear.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
For example, there are studies looking into
medications that can block theproduction or action of specific
hormones involved inendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So it's about getting more precise with treatments,
finding the exact pathways totarget.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Exactly, and there's also growing interest in
personalized medicine, wheretreatments are tailored to your
unique genetic and hormonalmakeup.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Wow, that sounds incredible Like the future of
health care.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It really does have the potential to revolutionize
how we approach these conditions.
So for those feeling frustratedwith current options, there's a
lot of hope on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's amazing news and, speaking of things that are
incredibly important but oftenoverlooked, let's shift gears
and talk about the impact ofendometriosis and PCOS on
relationships and intimacy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
This is something Dr Grossman addresses directly, and
it's so important to bring itinto the light.
These conditions can affect somuch more than just your
physical health.
They can have a ripple effectthroughout your entire life,
including your relationships.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I mean it's understandable that someone
might feel self-conscious oreven withdraw emotionally when
they're struggling with know,struggling with these conditions
.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Absolutely, and that's why open and honest
communication with your partneris absolutely crucial.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay, but that's.
That's easier said than done,right, especially when you're
feeling vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It can be challenging , for sure, but it's about
creating a safe space where bothpartners feel comfortable
sharing their feelings andconcerns without judgment.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Okay, so.
So where do you even begin tohave these conversations?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Start by being open about your symptoms and how
they're affecting you bothphysically and emotionally.
And remember it's okay to bespecific.
Your partner can't support youif they don't fully understand
what you're going through.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And it's not just about sharing, like the negative
stuff, right.
It's also about expressing yourneeds and desires, like what
kind of support would make youfeel loved and cared for.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Exactly, it's a two-way street.
Your partner should also feelcomfortable expressing their
feelings and concerns.
It's about creating a dialogue,not a monologue.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And what about discussing treatment options and
their potential impact?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's crucial too.
Yeah, your partner needs tounderstand the potential side
effects of medications ortherapies and how they might
affect your relationship,because, at the end of the day,
it's a shared experience.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's a team effort and sometimes those side effects
can be tough to deal with, youknow, both for the individual
and the relationship, likehormonal fluctuations can affect
mood, libido, energy levels,all those things that are kind
of interwoven with intimacy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You're right, and if those changes aren't addressed
openly, they can create tensionand distance.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So how can couples, how can they navigate those
challenges?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Again, communication is key, but so is flexibility
and understanding.
There might be times when thetraditional ways of expressing
intimacy just don't feel good oreven possible.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It is.
It's about finding new ways toconnect with your partner, both
physically and emotionally.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So like what are some examples?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Exploring different types of touch, like massage or
cuddling, can be a wonderful wayto feel close without the
pressure of intercourse.
And remember, intimacy is aboutso much more than just sex.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's about feeling connected, loved and supported.
Yeah, sometimes it's as simpleas spending quality time
together, talking, laughing,just enjoying each other's
company.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Exactly.
It's about finding thosemoments of connection even
amidst the challenges.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I know these conversations can be really
difficult, emotionally charged.
It's okay to seek professionalhelp if you're struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Therapists who specialize in sexual health or
chronic illness can beincredibly helpful, and don't
underestimate the power ofsupport groups.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, connecting with other couples who are going
through similar things can beincredibly validating.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It creates a sense of community and reminds you that
you're not alone in this.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now let's shift gears for a moment and talk about
another challenging aspectthat's often intertwined with
these conditions fertilityissues.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
This is a topic that carries a lot of emotional
weight.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Absolutely, and it's important to acknowledge that
there's no one-size-fits-allsolution when it comes to
fertility challenges.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Dr Grossman discusses both medical and natural
approaches to enhancingfertility.
But you know it's a verypersonal and individualized
journey.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Can you give us an overview of what those
approaches might look like?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
On the medical side, you have things like hormonal
therapies, medications tostimulate ovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And the potential risks and benefits of each
option vary widely.
I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They do.
It's crucial to have honestconversations with your
healthcare provider to determinethe best course of action for
your unique situation.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Because what works for one person might not be the
right fit for another.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Precisely and alongside the medical aspects of
treatment, emotional supportduring this process is paramount
.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, because fertility treatments can be
incredibly stressful, bothphysically and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They can be.
So having a strong supportsystem your partner, family,
friends, a therapist is soimportant.
It's about having people tolean on when things get tough
and knowing that you're notalone in this journey.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
And I imagine communication with your partner
becomes even more importantduring this time.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Absolutely.
It's about being honest aboutyour fears, hopes and
expectations and making sureyou're both on the same page
about the process and itspotential impact on your
relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's about facing this challenge together, as a
team.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, we've covered a lot of sensitive topics today,
but they're so important to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I agree.
These are conversations thatneed to happen.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And hopefully you're feeling a little bit more
informed and empowered to tacklethese challenges head on.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Remember knowledge is power and you are your own best
advocate.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Absolutely yeah.
So take a deep breath, reachout to your tribe and keep
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
One step at a time.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's a great way to put it.
And remember, even small stepscan lead to big changes.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
They absolutely can.
And sometimes it's those smallsteps, those daily acts of
self-care and empowerment thatmake all the difference in
living well with theseconditions.
You know, it's amazing howthese conditions can really
touch so many different aspectsof a person's life.
You know, it's not just aboutthe physical symptoms.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's like this whole web of interconnectedness
between our physical health andour emotional well-being, and Dr
Grossman really dives deep intothat in Chapter 4.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, mental health and emotional support.
That chapter is a goldmine.
She talks about thepsychological effects of living
with endometriosis and PCOS.
You know things like anxiety,depression and feelings of
isolation.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it's easy to feel like you're alone in this,
especially when society puts somuch pressure on women to you
know, have perfect cycles.
Yeah To be able to conceiveeasily.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right.
It's like this unspokenexpectation that we should just
power through the pain andpretend that everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And that can be incredibly damaging to your
self-esteem.
You start to feel like there'ssomething wrong with you, like
you're failing somehow.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And Dr Grossman challenges those negative
thought patterns head on.
She talks about the importanceof cultivating self-compassion
and recognizing that you knowyour worth isn't tied to your
fertility or your body size.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's about like accepting yourself where you are
right now, with all yourcomplexities and imperfections.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Exactly, and it's about giving yourself permission
to feel your emotions withoutjudgment.
You know it's OK to feelfrustrated, sad, even angry
about what you're going through.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like those emotions are valid.
They're telling you somethingimportant.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right, and bottling them up only makes things worse.
So Dr Grossman suggests findinghealthy ways to express those
feelings, like journaling,talking to a therapist or
connecting with a supportivecommunity.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Speaking of community , dr Grossman has some really
practical advice on finding andjoining support groups.
It's like she understandsexactly what we need, right when
we need it support groups.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's like she understands exactly what we need
, right when we need it.
She really does.
Yeah, she talks about the powerof connecting with others who
get it, who understand whatyou're going through, sharing
experiences, learning from eachother.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's amazing how much strength you can draw from just
knowing that you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's true, and these groups can be found online or in
person, so there's an optionfor everyone, no matter their
location or their comfort level.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, so we've talked about taking care of our
emotional well-being.
What about the physical side ofthings?
I know exercise can be a touchysubject for people with
endometriosis and PCOS, but DrGrossman dives into this in
chapter five.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yes, and her approach is so refreshing she emphasizes
the importance of listening toyour body and finding a routine
that works for you.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, because I think you know a lot of people with
these conditions have been toldthey need to, like, push
themselves harder, exercise moreintensely to kind of overcome
their symptoms.
But that can backfire prettyquickly, can't it?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Absolutely.
It's not about pushing yourselfto the limit or comparing
yourself to others.
It's about finding activitiesthat you enjoy, that make you
feel good.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And she specifically recommends low impact exercises
like yoga, swimming and walking,things that are gentle on the
joints but still provide a greatworkout.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Exactly, and those activities can be incredibly
beneficial for stress reductiontoo.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh, so it's a double win.
It also talks about theimportance of finding a
qualified fitness professionalwho understands the unique needs
of women with endometriosis andPCOS.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yes, that's such an important point.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know, a tailored fitness program can make a huge
difference in managing symptomsand improving your overall
health.
Yeah, it's about findingsomeone who can meet you where
you are and help you buildstrength and stamina in a way
that feels safe and supportive.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right.
And speaking of safe andsupportive practices, dr
Grossman doesn't stop atphysical fitness.
She dedicates a whole chapterto mind-body practices like yoga
and meditation.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Chapter six finding your center.
I love that title.
It's like she's giving Chaptersix Finding your Center.
I love that title.
It's like she's giving uspermission to prioritize our
inner peace.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, and she explores how these practices can help
reduce stress, improve emotionalregulation and even alleviate
pain.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, yoga, for example, combines physical
postures with breathwork andmindfulness.
It's creating this holisticexperience for the body and mind
.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's so powerful, and meditation can help calm the
nervous system, reduce anxietyand promote a sense of inner
peace.
You know it's like hitting thereset button for your mind.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Even just a few minutes of meditation can make a
big difference in your overallwell-being.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Absolutely, and Dr Grossman encourages us to.
You know, incorporate thesepractices into our daily
routines, even if it's just fora short time each day.
You know, small, consistentefforts add up over time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's like she's reminding us to be patient with
ourselves and to celebrate thosesmall victories.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know, there's another topic that can be
incredibly challenging for womenwith endometriosis and PCOS
fertility challenges.
Dr Grossman tackles this headon in Chapter 7.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, it's such a loaded topic.
It can bring up so many complexemotions.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It can, and I think it's important to acknowledge
the emotional toll that it cantake and to remind ourselves
that we're not alone in this.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Dr Grossman seems to have a knack for providing
reassurance and guidance even onthe most sensitive topics.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
She really does.
In this chapter, she discussesboth medical and natural
approaches to enhancingfertility.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Could you give us a little bit more insight into
what those might look like?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
On the medical side, there are hormonal therapies,
medications to stimulateovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And I imagine the potential risks and benefits of
each option very widely.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
They do.
It's crucial to work closelywith your healthcare provider to
determine the best path for you, based on your individual
circumstances and goals.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's a personalized journey and it's important to
feel empowered to ask questionsand to educate for your needs
throughout the process.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Absolutely, and, along with the medical side of
things, dr Grossman emphasizesthe importance of emotional
support during this time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, because fertility treatments can be
incredibly stressful, bothphysically and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They can be.
So having a strong supportsystem, whether it's your
partner, family, friends or atherapist, can make all the
difference.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
It's about having people to lean on when things
get tough and knowing thatyou're not alone in this.
You know there are also supportgroups specifically for women
dealing with infertility.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, those groups can provide a sense of community
and shared understanding.
That can be incredibly valuable.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So we've talked about natural approaches, emotional
support and support groups.
What about conventional medicaltreatments?
Dr Grossman dedicates Chapter 8to hormonal therapy and
medication options.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, this chapter is a really valuable
resource.
It provides a comprehensiveoverview of the various hormonal
treatments available,discussing their benefits, risks
and potential side effects.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, hormonal therapy can be such a powerful
tool for managing the symptomsof endometriosis and PCOS, but I
think a lot of people arehesitant to go that route
because of the potential sideeffects.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I understand that hesitation.
It's important to weigh thepros and cons carefully and to
make informed decisions andconsultation with your health
care provider.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What are some of the most common hormonal therapies
discussed in the book?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, dr Grossman covers a range of options,
including birth control pills,hormonal IUDs and implants.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And how do those help with endometriosis and PCOS
specifically?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They work primarily by regulating hormones and often
suppressing ovulation, whichcan help reduce pain, make
periods more regular and evenminimize cyst formation.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So it's about creating a more balanced
hormonal environment in the body.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Exactly, and for many women, this can significantly
improve their quality of life.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I imagine it takes some trial and error to find the
right hormonal therapy anddosage, though right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It often does.
Yeah, it's not aone-size-fits-all solution.
What works for one person mightnot work for another.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And it's important to remember that that you have a
voice in this process.
You know you're not justpassively receiving treatment,
you're actively participating inyour healthcare journey.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You're absolutely right.
Dr Grossman emphasizes theimportance of open communication
with your health care provider,sharing your symptoms, your
concerns, your preferences.
You know it's a partnership.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I love that You're a partner in your own healing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Exactly, and on that note, I'm really excited to talk
about Chapter 9.
This is where Dr Grossman goesbeyond medical treatments and
dives into lifestyle changesthat can make a real difference
in managing these conditions.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Lifestyle as medicine .
That's a powerful concept.
What are some of the keytakeaways from this chapter?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, dr Grossman talks about the importance of
creating a holistic approach towellness.
You know it's not just abouttaking medications or undergoing
procedures.
It's about making sustainablechanges to your lifestyle that
support your overall health andwell-being.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So it's about looking at the big picture right, Not
just treating the symptoms, butaddressing the underlying causes
.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Exactly.
She offers a wealth ofpractical advice on things like
sleep hygiene, mindfulness andrelaxation techniques.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
OK, can you give us, give us, some specific examples?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Sure.
She talks about the importanceof establishing a regular sleep
schedule, creating a relaxingbedtime routine and making sure
your your sleep environment isconducive to rest.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Because when you're not sleeping well, everything
else feels harder, right?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It's true, Quality sleep is essential for hormonal
balance, stress management andoverall well-being, and she also
delves into the benefits ofmindfulness and relaxation
techniques, things likemeditation, deep breathing
exercises and yoga.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, those can be incredibly helpful for calming
the nervous system and managingthose emotional ups and downs
that often come withendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely.
They help you find that senseof inner peace and groundingness
, even amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like having a toolkit for managing stress and
anxiety.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Exactly and along with sleep and relaxation
techniques, Dr Grossmanhighlights the importance of
creating a balanced dailyroutine, making time for
self-care, nourishing your bodywith healthy meals and getting
regular exercise.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's about finding a rhythm that works for you, A a
way of life that supports youroverall health and well-being.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I love that.
It's not about perfection.
It's about finding what feelsgood and sustainable for you.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And speaking of support and sustainability, Dr
Grossman dedicates a wholechapter to community support and
advocacy groups.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Chapter 10.
You are not alone.
It's such a powerful reminderthat we don't have to go through
this alone.
There are people out there whounderstand, who can offer
support and guidance.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's easy to feel isolated and alone when you're
dealing with chronic healthconditions, but there are so
many resources available, bothonline and in person.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You're right, and Dr Grossman talks about the
benefits of joining supportgroups, whether it's for
emotional support, informationsharing or advocacy.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's like tapping into this collective wisdom and
strength.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Exactly, and she also talks about the importance of
raising awareness aboutendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Because the more we talk about these conditions, the
more research funding we'll see, and the more doctors will be
trained to recognize and treatthem properly.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's a chain reaction and it all starts with breaking
down the stigma and empoweringwomen to share their stories.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's about making these conditions less of a taboo
subject and creating a spacewhere people feel safe to speak
up and ask for help.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, and she offers really practical tips on how to
be an advocate, whether it'ssharing your story on social
media, participating inawareness campaigns or even just
talking to your friends andfamily.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Every voice matters.
You never know who you mightinspire or educate by sharing
your experience.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So true, and speaking of inspiration, I think there's
one more crucial piece of thepuzzle that we need to address
before wrapping up.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Self-love Radical, fierce, unapologetic self-love.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.
These conditions can reallyreally mess with your body image
and your sense of self-worth.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It's easy to get caught in a spiral of self-blame
and shame, like somehow this isyour fault or your body is
betraying you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It's so important to remember that you are worthy of
love and acceptance, no matterwhat.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Exactly your body is amazing and powerful, even with
its imperfections.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And think of all the challenges it's overcome.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's why self-care is so vital.
It's not just about bubblebaths and face masks although
those are great too.
It's about making choices thathonor your body and nourish your
soul.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's about setting boundaries, saying no when you
need to and prioritizing yourwell-being.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And it's about celebrating your strength and
resilience.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Because you are a warrior.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You know navigating these conditions with grace and
determination.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You deserve to thrive .
Well said yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I think that's a perfect note to end on.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So, to recap, you've learned about the physical and
emotional aspects ofendometriosis and PCOS, explored
dietary strategies, naturalremedies, conventional
treatments and even got aglimpse into the future of care.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You've discovered the power of community and the
importance of advocating foryourself.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And, most importantly , we hope you're walking away
with a renewed sense of hope andempowerment.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Remember knowledge is power and you are not alone on
this journey.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Keep learning, keep connecting and keep believing in
your ability to thrive, evenwith endometriosis or PCOS.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You got this.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Now, before we move on to the final part of our deep
dive, I want to take a momentto acknowledge that that this
information can be a bitoverwhelming.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It can be.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's a lot to process .
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And it's important to take things at your own pace.
Yeah, you know, you don't haveto do everything all at once.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know, one of the most important messages that I
take away from Dr Grossman'sbook is the importance of
self-care.
It's not selfish to prioritizeyour needs.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I love that.
It's about filling your own cupfirst, so you can show up fully
for yourself and for others.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And self-care can take so many forms.
You know.
It can be as simple as taking afew minutes each day to do
something you enjoy, whetherthat's reading a book, taking a
bath, going for a walk in natureor listening to your favorite
music.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's about making those small, intentional choices
that nourish your mind, bodyand soul.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And it's about setting boundaries and saying no
to things that drain yourenergy.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Because you can't pour from an empty cup.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Exactly.
It's about protecting your timeand energy so you can focus on
the things that matter most.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So, as we move into the final part of our deep dive,
I want to encourage you toapproach this information with a
sense of curiosity andself-compassion.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's a journey, not a destination, and every step you
take towards understanding andtaking care of yourself is a
victory worth celebrating.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay, so we're going to kind of wrap up our deep dive
into emotional wellness andendometriosis and PCOS.
I'm really curious to see whatDr Grossman has to say about the
future.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, me too, especially with all the
advancements happening inmedicine these days.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And she doesn't disappoint.
Chapter 10, research andEmerging Treatments is packed
with fascinating insights.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Give us the highlights what's on the horizon
that our listeners should beaware of?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
One area that's really exploding right now is
personalized medicine.
Basically, it's the idea thattreatments should be tailored to
your individual genetic andhormonal makeup.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh, that makes so much sense.
Why wouldn't we want treatmentsto be as unique as we are Right
and imagineonal makeup?
Oh, that makes so much sense.
Like, why wouldn't we wanttreatments?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
to be as unique as we are Right, and imagine the
possibilities.
It could totally change how weapproach everything from pain
management to fertility.
Dr Grossman also talks aboutthe increasing interest in
non-hormonal treatment options.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I bet that's a relief for a lot of women who can't
tolerate hormonal therapies orjust looking for a different
approach.
What kind of things are theyexploring?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Well, there's a lot of research happening around
anti-inflammatory medicationsthat zero in on the specific
pathways involved inendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So it's about, like getting to the root of the
inflammation, not just maskingit, which is what a lot of
current medications do.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Exactly and get this.
There are also studies lookingat how the gut microbiome might
play a role in these conditions.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh, that's fascinating.
You know, I've been hearingmore and more about the gut
everything connection.
So it's not just about what weeat, but also about the balance
of bacteria in our gut.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's what the research seems to suggest.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And there's even exploration happening around
using stem cells to repairdamaged tissue and endometriosis
.
Whoa, stem cells?
That's some serious next levelstuff.
What's the timeline?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
on that?
Is it years away?
It's still early in theresearch phase, but the
potential is huge, and it's notjust stem cells.
Dr Grossman highlights so manyother other promising areas of
research.
You know, for people feelingdiscouraged with the current
options, there's a lot to behopeful about.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's amazing how quickly things are changing.
But cutting edge research isn'tthe only thing that brings hope
right.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're so right.
Dr Grossman emphasizes theimportance of community
something we've touched onalready and how powerful it can
be to connect with others whounderstand what you're going
through.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Chapter nine, community support and advocacy
groups, lays it all out.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
She talks about how easy it is to feel isolated.
You know when you're dealingwith these conditions.
But there are so many resourcesout there, both online and in
person.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's like tapping into a secret network of support
, and there are groups foreverything right Emotional
support, information sharing,even advocacy and awareness.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You got it.
She even gives tips on findinggroups and getting involved.
I think that's one of the mostimportant things.
Dr Grossman emphasizes raisingawareness about endometriosis
and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Because the more we talk about these conditions, the
more research funding we'll seeand the more doctors will be
trained to recognize and treatthem properly.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's a chain reaction and it all starts with breaking
down the stigma and empoweringwomen to share their stories.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's about making these conditions less of a taboo
subject and creating a spacewhere people feel safe to speak
up and ask for help.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yes, and she offers really practical tips on how to
be an advocate, whether it'ssharing your story on social
media, participating inawareness campaigns or even just
talking to your friends andfamily.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Every voice matters.
You never know who you mightinspire or educate by sharing
your experience.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So true, and speaking of inspiration, I think there's
one more crucial piece of thepuzzle that we need to address
before wrapping up.
What's that Self-love?
Radical, fierce, unapologeticself-love.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.
These conditions can reallyreally mess with your body image
and your sense of self-worth.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, it's easy to get caught in a spiral of
self-blame and shame.
Somehow this is your fault oryour body is betraying you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
It's so important to remember that you are worthy of
love and acceptance, no matterwhat.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Exactly your body is amazing and powerful, even with
its imperfections.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And think of all the challenges it's overcome.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's why self-care is so vital.
It's not just about bubblebaths and face masks although
those are great too.
It's about making choices thathonor your body and nourish your
soul.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's about setting boundaries, saying no when you
need to and prioritizing yourwell-being.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And it's about celebrating your strength and
resilience.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Because you are a warrior, navigating these
conditions with grace anddetermination.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You deserve to thrive .
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well said, I think that's a perfect note to end on.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So, to recap, you've learned about the physical and
emotional aspects ofendometriosis and PCOS, explored
dietary strategies, naturalremedies, conventional
treatments and even got aglimpse into the future of care.
You've discovered the power ofcommunity and the importance of
advocating for yourself and,most importantly, we hope,
you're walking away with arenewed sense of hope and
(37:13):
empowerment.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Remember knowledge is power and you are not alone on
this journey.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Keep learning, keep connecting and keep believing in
your ability to thrive, evenwith endometriosis or PCOS.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You got this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That's a wrap on our deep dive into emotional
wellness, endometriosis and PCOS.
We hope this information hasbeen helpful and empowering for
you.
All right.
So we're diving deep today intothe connection between
emotional wellness,endometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, fascinating stuff .
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've got some excerpts from Mindful Balance
Emotional Wellness for Womenwith Endometriosis and PCOS by
Dr Damaris Grossman.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Sounds like a good one.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, should be just the thing for this deep dive.
What we're going to do is pullout the most valuable empowering
takeaways for you, so you canactually you know use this stuff
, feel more in control.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, it's incredible how much research is
really showing us more and moreabout this connection.
You know, for a long time theseconditions were just viewed
through a physical lens.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, it's all about just managing the symptoms.
Exactly Not really likeaddressing the whole person.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, exactly.
So before we kind of jump intothe practical stuff, can you
give us a super quick overviewof endometriosis and PCOS, the
risk?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
grows outside of it, and this can lead to like pain,
inflammation and even scarring.
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
PCOS or polycystic ovary syndrome, is a hormonal
disorder that often involvesirregular periods and cysts on
the ovaries.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, and I think what's really important for
people to understand is thatboth conditions can have a very
significant impact on someone'semotional well-being.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Imagine dealing with chronic pain, unpredictable
cycles and maybe even fertilitychallenges.
You know.
It's no wonder that anxiety anddepression are really common.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Absolutely.
It's almost like your body islike betraying you, and then, on
top of that, you feel likeyou're failing somehow, because
you can't just you know tough itout.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we hear that a lot, and then the fact that some
symptoms overlap between thetwo can make it even harder to
kind of pinpoint what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh, absolutely.
It's going to be incrediblyconfusing for someone going
through all that.
From what I've seen, though, DrGrossman offers some really
practical strategies for takingback control.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
She does, and one of the most powerful strategies
which might surprise some peopleis diet she does, and one of
the most powerful strategieswhich might surprise some people
is diet.
Ok, so let's unpack this.
What's the connection therebetween what we eat and these
conditions?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It all comes down to inflammation and hormonal
balance.
You see, both conditions, bothendometriosis and PCOS, are
often linked to higher levels ofinflammation throughout the
body.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So that inflammation can actually make the symptoms
worse.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Exactly, yeah, it's like adding fuel to the fire.
So Dr Grossman suggestsadopting an anti-inflammatory
diet as a core strategy formanaging both.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And she gets really specific too about which foods
to embrace and which ones tomaybe avoid, like she's all
about adding in fatty fish, flaxseeds, walnuts, you know those
omega-3 powerhouses.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, and those omega-3s are key because they
directly counteract thoseinflammatory processes that we
talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And it's so fascinating to me how like
directly diet can impact theseconditions.
She also highlights things likeberries, leafy greens,
cruciferous veggies likebroccoli.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's about flooding your system with antioxidants,
fiber things that help your bodythrive but she also points out
the importance of cutting backon processed foods, refined
sugars, trans fats.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And potentially dairy .
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
For some people.
So she's not just saying, likeyou know, eat clean.
It's a much more targetedapproach.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right, and what's so powerful about this is how it
impacts not just the physicalsymptoms but also the emotional
well-being.
Stable blood sugar, forinstance, can make a huge
difference with mood swings andirritability.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh, which is huge when you're dealing with so much
already.
Just like give me all thestable moods I can get.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely yeah.
It's about taking back controlone mindful choice at a time.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So we've covered diet .
What about natural remedies IsDr Grossman?
She's suggesting we all startbrewing up herbal concoctions.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Not quite, but she does dive into the potential
benefits of certain herbalsupplements.
Again, very specific about whatcould help and why.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Okay, give us some examples, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
One that stands out is Chase Treeberry, also known
as Vitex.
It's often used to supporthormonal balance, which can be a
game changer for PCOS.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, I've heard of that one it seems to be gaining
in popularity.
Yeah, there's also turmeric,you know, classic for
inflammation.
You can add it to your food ortake it in supplement form.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And turmeric lattes are all the rage these days, so
that's like a win-win,definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And Dr Grossman also highlights ashwagandha.
It's an adaptogen, whichbasically means it helps your
body manage stress moreeffectively.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So it's like a chill pill, but from nature.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, in a way yeah, but it's important to remember
that, while these herbs arepromising, the research is still
ongoing and not all supplementsare created equal.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And it's always smart to talk to your doctor before
adding anything new to yourroutine, right?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Oh, absolutely.
Everyone's different.
What works for one person mightnot work for another, and
speaking of things that can havea different impact on everyone,
let's talk about exercise.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, but hold on.
Does exercise really make sensewhen you're dealing with pain
and fatigue Like, wouldn't it bebetter to just rest?
You know that's a commonmisconception.
While rest is definitelyimportant, the right kind of
exercise can actually beincredibly beneficial for both
conditions.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I'm guessing we're not talking about like high
intensity workouts here.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not at all.
No, dr Grossman is all aboutlow impact activities yoga,
swimming, walking things thatget you moving without putting
too much stress on your body.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
It's about finding that sweetspot where you're challenging
your body gently but notoverdoing it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Exactly, and the beauty of these activities is
that they can be just as goodfor your mind as they are for
your body.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, I definitely found that to be true for myself
.
Even a short walk cancompletely shift my mood
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It's amazing how powerful movement can be for our
emotional well-being, and forthose who tend to get caught up
in an all or nothing mindset,it's a great reminder that small
, consistent efforts can make abig difference.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Love that.
Small steps, big impact.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And if you're looking for even more ways to you know,
find that inner peace and kindof manage the emotional roller
coaster that can come with theseconditions.
Dr Grossman recommendsexploring mind-body practices
like yoga and meditation.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'm all for those, but how do they actually help
Like?
Do they really live up to thehype?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, yoga is fantastic for gentle movement,
but it's also a powerful way toconnect with your body and
become more aware of yourphysical sensation.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Which has got to be especially important when you're
dealing with, you know, chronicpain and discomfort.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Absolutely.
Yoga can help you learn to tunein to your body's signals and
respond to them with compassionrather than judgment.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So it's not about like pushing through the pain,
it's about understanding it, andwhat about meditation?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I used to be pretty skeptical, but I started
incorporating even just a fewminutes of meditation into my
day and it's made a hugedifference.
For me, it's like creating asanctuary for your mind, a space
where you can find stillnessand peace amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes, like a mental reset button.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That sense of presence can be incredibly
grounding, especially whenyou're feeling overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Okay, so we're building a toolkit here for you
Diet, natural remedies, exercise, yoga meditation.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And there's one more incredibly important piece to
this puzzle.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Community support.
It's hard to overstate theimportance of feeling connected
to others who truly understandwhat you're going through.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, it's like having a team of cheerleaders in
your corner reminding you thatyou're not alone in this, but
where do you even begin to findthese supportive communities?
Any tips for our listener?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Absolutely.
Online forums and social mediagroups are great places to start
.
There are tons dedicated toendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And don't forget about local support groups too.
Sometimes that likeface-to-face connection can be
really powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Definitely, and many health care providers have lists
of support groups or canconnect you with relevant
organizations.
It's amazing how much is outthere if you know where to look.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And even if it feels a little intimidating at first,
I think it's worth exploring.
Just imagine the power ofsharing experiences, yeah,
coping strategies, informationon treatments and resources.
I mean it's invaluable.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It is, and now it's time to talk about a topic that
can be incredibly sensitive butincredibly important for many
women with endometriosis andPCOS.
Ok, fertility challenges.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, this is a big one, and I think it's important
to acknowledge right away thatthere's no one size fits all
solution here.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You're absolutely right.
Dr Grossman discusses bothmedical and natural approaches
to enhancing fertility, and it'sa very personalized journey.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Can you give us a kind of a general overview of
what those approaches might looklike?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
On the medical side, you have things like hormonal
therapies, medications tostimulate ovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I imagine the potential risks and benefits of
each option can vary quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
They do.
Yeah, it's crucial to have openand honest conversations with
your health care provider tofigure out the best path for
your individual situation.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because what works for one person might not be the
right fit for another.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Exactly, and, alongside the medical aspects of
treatment, emotional support isabsolutely crucial.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Because, let's be real, fertility treatments can
be incredibly stressful, anxietyinducing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Absolutely so.
Having a strong support system,whether it's your partner,
family, friends or therapist, isparamount.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's about having people to lean on when things
get tough and knowing you're notalone in this journey.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And now let's dive into another key aspect of
managing these conditions.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
OK.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hormonal therapy and medication options.
This is where we really getinto the nitty gritty of
conventional medical approaches.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
OK, can you break down what kind down, what kind
of options are out there?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
One of the most common is hormonal birth control
, which can be in the form ofpills, patches or hormonal IUDs.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And how do those actually help with endometriosis
and PCOS?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They work by regulating hormones and often
suppressing ovulation, which canreduce pain, make periods more
regular and even minimize cystformation.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So it's about creating a more stable hormonal
environment in the body.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Exactly, and for many women, this can make a huge
difference in their symptoms andtheir quality of life.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Are there downsides to hormonal therapy, though?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like any medical intervention, there can be
potential side effects.
It's important to discuss thoseopenly with your health care
provider to make sure thebenefits outweigh the risks.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Because, again, what works for one person might not
work for another.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Absolutely.
It's a very personalizeddecision.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I know there's been a lot of buzz lately about new
medications and cutting-edgeresearch in this field.
Can you give us a little sneakpeek into what the future might
hold?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's a really exciting time.
Researchers are constantlysearching for new ways to target
the root causes of theseconditions, rather than just
managing the symptoms.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's encouraging to hear.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
For example, there are studies looking into
medications that can block theproduction or action of specific
hormones involved inendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So it's about getting more precise with treatments,
finding the exact pathways totarget.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Exactly, and there's also growing interest in
personalized medicine, wheretreatments are tailored to your
unique genetic and hormonalmakeup.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Wow, that sounds incredible Like the future of
health care.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It really does have the potential to revolutionize
how we approach these conditions.
So for those feeling frustratedwith current options, there's a
lot of hope on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's amazing news and, speaking of things that are
incredibly important but oftenoverlooked, let's shift gears
and talk about the impact ofendometriosis and PCOS on
relationships and intimacy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
This is something Dr Grossman addresses directly, and
it's so important to bring itinto the light.
These conditions can affect somuch more than just your
physical health.
They can have a ripple effectthroughout your entire life,
including your relationships.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, I mean it's understandable that someone
might feel self-conscious oreven withdraw emotionally when
they're struggling with know,struggling with these conditions
.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Absolutely, and that's why open and honest
communication with your partneris absolutely crucial.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay, but that's.
That's easier said than done,right, especially when you're
feeling vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It can be challenging , for sure, but it's about
creating a safe space where bothpartners feel comfortable
sharing their feelings andconcerns without judgment.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Okay, so.
So where do you even begin tohave these conversations?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Start by being open about your symptoms and how
they're affecting you bothphysically and emotionally.
And remember it's okay to bespecific.
Your partner can't support youif they don't fully understand
what you're going through.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And it's not just about sharing, like the negative
stuff, right.
It's also about expressing yourneeds and desires, like what
kind of support would make youfeel loved and cared for.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Exactly, it's a two-way street.
Your partner should also feelcomfortable expressing their
feelings and concerns.
It's about creating a dialogue,not a monologue.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And what about discussing treatment options and
their potential impact?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's crucial too.
Yeah, your partner needs tounderstand the potential side
effects of medications ortherapies and how they might
affect your relationship,because, at the end of the day,
it's a shared experience.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's a team effort and sometimes those side effects
can be tough to deal with, youknow, both for the individual
and the relationship, likehormonal fluctuations can affect
mood, libido, energy levels,all those things that are kind
of interwoven with intimacy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You're right, and if those changes aren't addressed
openly, they can create tensionand distance.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So how can couples, how can they navigate those
challenges?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Again, communication is key, but so is flexibility
and understanding.
There might be times when thetraditional ways of expressing
intimacy just don't feel good oreven possible.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It is.
It's about finding new ways toconnect with your partner, both
physically and emotionally.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So like what are some examples?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Exploring different types of touch, like massage or
cuddling, can be a wonderful wayto feel close without the
pressure of intercourse.
And remember, intimacy is aboutso much more than just sex.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's about feeling connected, loved and supported.
Yeah, sometimes it's as simpleas spending quality time
together, talking, laughing,just enjoying each other's
company.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Exactly.
It's about finding thosemoments of connection even
amidst the challenges.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I know these conversations can be really
difficult, emotionally charged.
It's okay to seek professionalhelp if you're struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Therapists who specialize in sexual health or
chronic illness can beincredibly helpful, and don't
underestimate the power ofsupport groups.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, connecting with other couples who are going
through similar things can beincredibly validating.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It creates a sense of community and reminds you that
you're not alone in this.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now let's shift gears for a moment and talk about
another challenging aspectthat's often intertwined with
these conditions fertilityissues.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
This is a topic that carries a lot of emotional
weight.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Absolutely, and it's important to acknowledge that
there's no one-size-fits-allsolution when it comes to
fertility challenges.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Dr Grossman discusses both medical and natural
approaches to enhancingfertility.
But you know it's a verypersonal and individualized
journey.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Can you give us an overview of what those
approaches might look like?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
On the medical side, you have things like hormonal
therapies, medications tostimulate ovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And the potential risks and benefits of each
option vary widely.
I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They do.
It's crucial to have honestconversations with your
healthcare provider to determinethe best course of action for
your unique situation.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Because what works for one person might not be the
right fit for another.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Precisely and alongside the medical aspects of
treatment, emotional supportduring this process is paramount
.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, because fertility treatments can be
incredibly stressful, bothphysically and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
They can be.
So having a strong supportsystem your partner, family,
friends, a therapist is soimportant.
It's about having people tolean on when things get tough
and knowing that you're notalone in this journey.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
And I imagine communication with your partner
becomes even more importantduring this time.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Absolutely.
It's about being honest aboutyour fears, hopes and
expectations and making sureyou're both on the same page
about the process and itspotential impact on your
relationship.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's about facing this challenge together, as a
team.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, we've covered a lot of sensitive topics today,
but they're so important to talkabout.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I agree.
These are conversations thatneed to happen.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And hopefully you're feeling a little bit more
informed and empowered to tacklethese challenges head on.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Remember knowledge is power and you are your own best
advocate.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Absolutely yeah.
So take a deep breath, reachout to your tribe and keep
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
One step at a time.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's a great way to put it.
And remember, even small stepscan lead to big changes.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
They absolutely can.
And sometimes it's those smallsteps, those daily acts of
self-care and empowerment thatmake all the difference in
living well with theseconditions.
You know, it's amazing howthese conditions can really
touch so many different aspectsof a person's life.
You know, it's not just aboutthe physical symptoms.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's like this whole web of interconnectedness
between our physical health andour emotional well-being, and Dr
Grossman really dives deep intothat in Chapter 4.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, mental health and emotional support.
That chapter is a goldmine.
She talks about thepsychological effects of living
with endometriosis and PCOS.
You know things like anxiety,depression and feelings of
isolation.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it's easy to feel like you're alone in this,
especially when society puts somuch pressure on women to you
know, have perfect cycles.
Yeah To be able to conceiveeasily.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right.
It's like this unspokenexpectation that we should just
power through the pain andpretend that everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And that can be incredibly damaging to your
self-esteem.
You start to feel like there'ssomething wrong with you, like
you're failing somehow.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And Dr Grossman challenges those negative
thought patterns head on.
She talks about the importanceof cultivating self-compassion
and recognizing that you knowyour worth isn't tied to your
fertility or your body size.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's about like accepting yourself where you are
right now, with all yourcomplexities and imperfections.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Exactly, and it's about giving yourself permission
to feel your emotions withoutjudgment.
You know it's OK to feelfrustrated, sad, even angry
about what you're going through.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like those emotions are valid.
They're telling you somethingimportant.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right, and bottling them up only makes things worse.
So Dr Grossman suggests findinghealthy ways to express those
feelings, like journaling,talking to a therapist or
connecting with a supportivecommunity.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Speaking of community , dr Grossman has some really
practical advice on finding andjoining support groups.
It's like she understandsexactly what we need, right when
we need it support groups.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's like she understands exactly what we need
, right when we need it.
She really does.
Yeah, she talks about the powerof connecting with others who
get it, who understand whatyou're going through, sharing
experiences, learning from eachother.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's amazing how much strength you can draw from just
knowing that you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's true, and these groups can be found online or in
person, so there's an optionfor everyone, no matter their
location or their comfort level.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, so we've talked about taking care of our
emotional well-being.
What about the physical side ofthings?
I know exercise can be a touchysubject for people with
endometriosis and PCOS, but DrGrossman dives into this in
chapter five.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yes, and her approach is so refreshing she emphasizes
the importance of listening toyour body and finding a routine
that works for you.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, because I think you know a lot of people with
these conditions have been toldthey need to, like, push
themselves harder, exercise moreintensely to kind of overcome
their symptoms.
But that can backfire prettyquickly, can't it?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Absolutely.
It's not about pushing yourselfto the limit or comparing
yourself to others.
It's about finding activitiesthat you enjoy, that make you
feel good.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And she specifically recommends low impact exercises
like yoga, swimming and walking,things that are gentle on the
joints but still provide a greatworkout.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Exactly, and those activities can be incredibly
beneficial for stress reductiontoo.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh, so it's a double win.
It also talks about theimportance of finding a
qualified fitness professionalwho understands the unique needs
of women with endometriosis andPCOS.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yes, that's such an important point.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know, a tailored fitness program can make a huge
difference in managing symptomsand improving your overall
health.
Yeah, it's about findingsomeone who can meet you where
you are and help you buildstrength and stamina in a way
that feels safe and supportive.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right.
And speaking of safe andsupportive practices, dr
Grossman doesn't stop atphysical fitness.
She dedicates a whole chapterto mind-body practices like yoga
and meditation.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Chapter six finding your center.
I love that title.
It's like she's giving Chaptersix Finding your Center.
I love that title.
It's like she's giving uspermission to prioritize our
inner peace.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, and she explores how these practices can help
reduce stress, improve emotionalregulation and even alleviate
pain.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, yoga, for example, combines physical
postures with breathwork andmindfulness.
It's creating this holisticexperience for the body and mind
.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's so powerful, and meditation can help calm the
nervous system, reduce anxietyand promote a sense of inner
peace.
You know it's like hitting thereset button for your mind.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Even just a few minutes of meditation can make a
big difference in your overallwell-being.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Absolutely, and Dr Grossman encourages us to.
You know, incorporate thesepractices into our daily
routines, even if it's just fora short time each day.
You know, small, consistentefforts add up over time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's like she's reminding us to be patient with
ourselves and to celebrate thosesmall victories.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know, there's another topic that can be
incredibly challenging for womenwith endometriosis and PCOS
fertility challenges.
Dr Grossman tackles this headon in Chapter 7.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, it's such a loaded topic.
It can bring up so many complexemotions.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It can, and I think it's important to acknowledge
the emotional toll that it cantake and to remind ourselves
that we're not alone in this.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Dr Grossman seems to have a knack for providing
reassurance and guidance even onthe most sensitive topics.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
She really does.
In this chapter, she discussesboth medical and natural
approaches to enhancingfertility.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Could you give us a little bit more insight into
what those might look like?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
On the medical side, there are hormonal therapies,
medications to stimulateovulation and assisted
reproductive technologies likeIVF.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And I imagine the potential risks and benefits of
each option very widely.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
They do.
It's crucial to work closelywith your healthcare provider to
determine the best path for you, based on your individual
circumstances and goals.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's a personalized journey and it's important to
feel empowered to ask questionsand to educate for your needs
throughout the process.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Absolutely, and, along with the medical side of
things, dr Grossman emphasizesthe importance of emotional
support during this time.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, because fertility treatments can be
incredibly stressful, bothphysically and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
They can be.
So having a strong supportsystem, whether it's your
partner, family, friends or atherapist, can make all the
difference.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
It's about having people to lean on when things
get tough and knowing thatyou're not alone in this.
You know there are also supportgroups specifically for women
dealing with infertility.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, those groups can provide a sense of community
and shared understanding.
That can be incredibly valuable.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So we've talked about natural approaches, emotional
support and support groups.
What about conventional medicaltreatments?
Dr Grossman dedicates Chapter 8to hormonal therapy and
medication options.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, this chapter is a really valuable
resource.
It provides a comprehensiveoverview of the various hormonal
treatments available,discussing their benefits, risks
and potential side effects.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, hormonal therapy can be such a powerful
tool for managing the symptomsof endometriosis and PCOS, but I
think a lot of people arehesitant to go that route
because of the potential sideeffects.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I understand that hesitation.
It's important to weigh thepros and cons carefully and to
make informed decisions andconsultation with your health
care provider.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
What are some of the most common hormonal therapies
discussed in the book?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, dr Grossman covers a range of options,
including birth control pills,hormonal IUDs and implants.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And how do those help with endometriosis and PCOS
specifically?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
They work primarily by regulating hormones and often
suppressing ovulation, whichcan help reduce pain, make
periods more regular and evenminimize cyst formation.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So it's about creating a more balanced
hormonal environment in the body.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Exactly, and for many women, this can significantly
improve their quality of life.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I imagine it takes some trial and error to find the
right hormonal therapy anddosage, though right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It often does.
Yeah, it's not aone-size-fits-all solution.
What works for one person mightnot work for another.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And it's important to remember that that you have a
voice in this process.
You know you're not justpassively receiving treatment,
you're actively participating inyour healthcare journey.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You're absolutely right.
Dr Grossman emphasizes theimportance of open communication
with your health care provider,sharing your symptoms, your
concerns, your preferences.
You know it's a partnership.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I love that You're a partner in your own healing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Exactly, and on that note, I'm really excited to talk
about Chapter 9.
This is where Dr Grossman goesbeyond medical treatments and
dives into lifestyle changesthat can make a real difference
in managing these conditions.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Lifestyle as medicine .
That's a powerful concept.
What are some of the keytakeaways from this chapter?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, dr Grossman talks about the importance of
creating a holistic approach towellness.
You know it's not just abouttaking medications or undergoing
procedures.
It's about making sustainablechanges to your lifestyle that
support your overall health andwell-being.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So it's about looking at the big picture right, Not
just treating the symptoms, butaddressing the underlying causes
.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Exactly.
She offers a wealth ofpractical advice on things like
sleep hygiene, mindfulness andrelaxation techniques.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
OK, can you give us, give us, some specific examples?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Sure.
She talks about the importanceof establishing a regular sleep
schedule, creating a relaxingbedtime routine and making sure
your your sleep environment isconducive to rest.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Because when you're not sleeping well, everything
else feels harder, right?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It's true, Quality sleep is essential for hormonal
balance, stress management andoverall well-being, and she also
delves into the benefits ofmindfulness and relaxation
techniques, things likemeditation, deep breathing
exercises and yoga.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, those can be incredibly helpful for calming
the nervous system and managingthose emotional ups and downs
that often come withendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Absolutely.
They help you find that senseof inner peace and groundingness
, even amidst the chaos.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
It's like having a toolkit for managing stress and
anxiety.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Exactly and along with sleep and relaxation
techniques, Dr Grossmanhighlights the importance of
creating a balanced dailyroutine, making time for
self-care, nourishing your bodywith healthy meals and getting
regular exercise.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's about finding a rhythm that works for you, A a
way of life that supports youroverall health and well-being.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I love that.
It's not about perfection.
It's about finding what feelsgood and sustainable for you.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And speaking of support and sustainability, Dr
Grossman dedicates a wholechapter to community support and
advocacy groups.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Chapter 10.
You are not alone.
It's such a powerful reminderthat we don't have to go through
this alone.
There are people out there whounderstand, who can offer
support and guidance.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's easy to feel isolated and alone when you're
dealing with chronic healthconditions, but there are so
many resources available, bothonline and in person.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You're right, and Dr Grossman talks about the
benefits of joining supportgroups, whether it's for
emotional support, informationsharing or advocacy.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's like tapping into this collective wisdom and
strength.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Exactly, and she also talks about the importance of
raising awareness aboutendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Because the more we talk about these conditions, the
more research funding we'll see, and the more doctors will be
trained to recognize and treatthem properly.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's a chain reaction and it all starts with breaking
down the stigma and empoweringwomen to share their stories.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's about making these conditions less of a taboo
subject and creating a spacewhere people feel safe to speak
up and ask for help.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, and she offers really practical tips on how to
be an advocate, whether it'ssharing your story on social
media, participating inawareness campaigns or even just
talking to your friends andfamily.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Every voice matters.
You never know who you mightinspire or educate by sharing
your experience.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So true, and speaking of inspiration, I think there's
one more crucial piece of thepuzzle that we need to address
before wrapping up.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Self-love Radical, fierce, unapologetic self-love.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.
These conditions can reallyreally mess with your body image
and your sense of self-worth.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
It's easy to get caught in a spiral of self-blame
and shame, like somehow this isyour fault or your body is
betraying you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It's so important to remember that you are worthy of
love and acceptance, no matterwhat.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Exactly your body is amazing and powerful, even with
its imperfections.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And think of all the challenges it's overcome.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's why self-care is so vital.
It's not just about bubblebaths and face masks although
those are great too.
It's about making choices thathonor your body and nourish your
soul.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's about setting boundaries, saying no when you
need to and prioritizing yourwell-being.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And it's about celebrating your strength and
resilience.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Because you are a warrior.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You know navigating these conditions with grace and
determination.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You deserve to thrive .
Well said yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I think that's a perfect note to end on.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So, to recap, you've learned about the physical and
emotional aspects ofendometriosis and PCOS, explored
dietary strategies, naturalremedies, conventional
treatments and even got aglimpse into the future of care.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
You've discovered the power of community and the
importance of advocating foryourself.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And, most importantly , we hope you're walking away
with a renewed sense of hope andempowerment.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Remember knowledge is power and you are not alone on
this journey.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Keep learning, keep connecting and keep believing in
your ability to thrive, evenwith endometriosis or PCOS.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You got this.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Now, before we move on to the final part of our deep
dive, I want to take a momentto acknowledge that that this
information can be a bitoverwhelming.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It can be.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's a lot to process .
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And it's important to take things at your own pace.
Yeah, you know, you don't haveto do everything all at once.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know, one of the most important messages that I
take away from Dr Grossman'sbook is the importance of
self-care.
It's not selfish to prioritizeyour needs.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I love that.
It's about filling your own cupfirst, so you can show up fully
for yourself and for others.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And self-care can take so many forms.
You know.
It can be as simple as taking afew minutes each day to do
something you enjoy, whetherthat's reading a book, taking a
bath, going for a walk in natureor listening to your favorite
music.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's about making those small, intentional choices
that nourish your mind, bodyand soul.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And it's about setting boundaries and saying no
to things that drain yourenergy.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Because you can't pour from an empty cup.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Exactly.
It's about protecting your timeand energy so you can focus on
the things that matter most.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So, as we move into the final part of our deep dive,
I want to encourage you toapproach this information with a
sense of curiosity andself-compassion.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's a journey, not a destination, and every step you
take towards understanding andtaking care of yourself is a
victory worth celebrating.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay, so we're going to kind of wrap up our deep dive
into emotional wellness andendometriosis and PCOS.
I'm really curious to see whatDr Grossman has to say about the
future.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, me too, especially with all the
advancements happening inmedicine these days.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And she doesn't disappoint.
Chapter 10, research andEmerging Treatments is packed
with fascinating insights.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Give us the highlights what's on the horizon
that our listeners should beaware of?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
One area that's really exploding right now is
personalized medicine.
Basically, it's the idea thattreatments should be tailored to
your individual genetic andhormonal makeup.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh, that makes so much sense.
Why wouldn't we want treatmentsto be as unique as we are Right
and imagineonal makeup?
Oh, that makes so much sense.
Like, why wouldn't we wanttreatments?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
to be as unique as we are Right, and imagine the
possibilities.
It could totally change how weapproach everything from pain
management to fertility.
Dr Grossman also talks aboutthe increasing interest in
non-hormonal treatment options.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I bet that's a relief for a lot of women who can't
tolerate hormonal therapies orjust looking for a different
approach.
What kind of things are theyexploring?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Well, there's a lot of research happening around
anti-inflammatory medicationsthat zero in on the specific
pathways involved inendometriosis and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So it's about, like getting to the root of the
inflammation, not just maskingit, which is what a lot of
current medications do.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Exactly and get this.
There are also studies lookingat how the gut microbiome might
play a role in these conditions.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh, that's fascinating.
You know, I've been hearingmore and more about the gut
everything connection.
So it's not just about what weeat, but also about the balance
of bacteria in our gut.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's what the research seems to suggest.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And there's even exploration happening around
using stem cells to repairdamaged tissue and endometriosis
.
Whoa, stem cells?
That's some serious next levelstuff.
What's the timeline?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
on that?
Is it years away?
It's still early in theresearch phase, but the
potential is huge, and it's notjust stem cells.
Dr Grossman highlights so manyother other promising areas of
research.
You know, for people feelingdiscouraged with the current
options, there's a lot to behopeful about.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's amazing how quickly things are changing.
But cutting edge research isn'tthe only thing that brings hope
right.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're so right.
Dr Grossman emphasizes theimportance of community
something we've touched onalready and how powerful it can
be to connect with others whounderstand what you're going
through.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Chapter nine, community support and advocacy
groups, lays it all out.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
She talks about how easy it is to feel isolated.
You know when you're dealingwith these conditions.
But there are so many resourcesout there, both online and in
person.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's like tapping into a secret network of support
, and there are groups foreverything right Emotional
support, information sharing,even advocacy and awareness.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You got it.
She even gives tips on findinggroups and getting involved.
I think that's one of the mostimportant things.
Dr Grossman emphasizes raisingawareness about endometriosis
and PCOS.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Because the more we talk about these conditions, the
more research funding we'll seeand the more doctors will be
trained to recognize and treatthem properly.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's a chain reaction and it all starts with breaking
down the stigma and empoweringwomen to share their stories.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's about making these conditions less of a taboo
subject and creating a spacewhere people feel safe to speak
up and ask for help.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yes, and she offers really practical tips on how to
be an advocate, whether it'ssharing your story on social
media, participating inawareness campaigns or even just
talking to your friends andfamily.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Every voice matters.
You never know who you mightinspire or educate by sharing
your experience.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So true, and speaking of inspiration, I think there's
one more crucial piece of thepuzzle that we need to address
before wrapping up.
What's that Self-love?
Radical, fierce, unapologeticself-love.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.
These conditions can reallyreally mess with your body image
and your sense of self-worth.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, it's easy to get caught in a spiral of
self-blame and shame.
Somehow this is your fault oryour body is betraying you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
It's so important to remember that you are worthy of
love and acceptance, no matterwhat.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Exactly your body is amazing and powerful, even with
its imperfections.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And think of all the challenges it's overcome.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's why self-care is so vital.
It's not just about bubblebaths and face masks although
those are great too.
It's about making choices thathonor your body and nourish your
soul.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's about setting boundaries, saying no when you
need to and prioritizing yourwell-being.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And it's about celebrating your strength and
resilience.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Because you are a warrior, navigating these
conditions with grace anddetermination.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You deserve to thrive .
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well said, I think that's a perfect note to end on.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So, to recap, you've learned about the physical and
emotional aspects ofendometriosis and PCOS, explored
dietary strategies, naturalremedies, conventional
treatments and even got aglimpse into the future of care.
You've discovered the power ofcommunity and the importance of
advocating for yourself and,most importantly, we hope,
you're walking away with arenewed sense of hope and
(37:13):
empowerment.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Remember knowledge is power and you are not alone on
this journey.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Keep learning, keep connecting and keep believing in
your ability to thrive, evenwith endometriosis or PCOS.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You got this.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That's a wrap on our deep dive into emotional
wellness, endometriosis and PCOS.
We hope this information hasbeen helpful and empowering for
you.
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