June 11, 2025 • 37 mins
https://www.johnsolleder.com/
Books: Leaving nothing to chance
John Salader shares his 42-year entrepreneurial journey that began with a $32 investment and evolved through multiple businesses, personal transformation, and health discoveries. His story reveals how pausing and self-development became the foundation for both business success and personal wellness.
• Started first business in 1983 with just $32, making $800 in the first month
• Found inspiration in Ronald Reagan's commencement speech about mentorship and opportunity
• Adopted the philosophy "for things to change, you have to change"
• Pivoted during COVID to podcasting and exploring AI capabilities
• Developed a passion for glutathione supplements after his mother's health improved
• Transitioned from being 85 pounds heavier to embracing vegetarianism and raw veganism
• Completed a 21-day water fast that provided mental clarity and business insights
• Discovered that pausing and rest can lead to greater strength and productivity
• Found that diet changes significantly improved joint health and sleep quality
Contact John at johnsolleder.com or text 972-259-0875 to learn more about glutathione supplementation or his "Leaving Nothing to Chance" podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, how are you?
This is Dr Damaris MariaGrossman, and this is the
Mindfully Integrative Show.
Today we have an amazing guest.
His name is John Salader.
He has years of experience anauthor, a speaker, business
owner and has even a supplementbusiness.
So I kind of want you to kindof dive in to learn more about
this individual, not only in anintegrative way, but kind of in
(00:22):
a business and mentorship way,and how can maybe change your
perspective.
So nice to meet you, john.
Thank you so much for being onthe show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thank you for the invitation, doctor, and I love
your show.
I've become a big fan of itover the last couple of months
and you're doing a great job andsharing some wonderful
information with people.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Thank you so much.
So what would you like to talkwith the audience about today,
and kind of a little bit aboutyourself?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, well, I'm a 42-year entrepreneur.
42 years ago, april, I startedmy very first business, and how
that happened was kind ofinteresting.
I was not somebody that went tobusiness school.
I wasn't somebody who you wouldlook at and say that guy's
interested in business.
Matter of fact, I had nointerest in business whatsoever.
(01:11):
I was a journalism major atSeton Hall University in New
Jersey and I was about tograduate college.
And April 18th 1983, a fellowwho I had wrestled with in high
school, who was a couple yearsolder than me, came into the gym
I was working out at and I wasworking a part-time selling
health club memberships, and hetold me about a business I could
(01:33):
start for $32, which at thetime I didn't know, and I was
like oh $32.
I'll write you a check, butyou're going to have to hold the
check.
And the joke between us for thelast 42 years has been I didn't
tell him what Friday he couldcash the check.
I said you can cash it onFriday.
I didn't tell him what Fridayand I started that business and
(01:54):
thinking you know, hey, I'lljust do what he tells me to do
and I'll play around with it andit'll be fun.
And lo and behold, that veryfirst month I made $800.
Lo and behold that very firstmonth I made $800.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's a lot out of a 32 investment $30.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I mean, today's dollar is about $2,500.
And I'm a young kid, I'm 20years old, right.
So, like you know, $800 or$2,500 today that's a lot of
money, right?
And of course, nobody hadcredit cards in those days, so
it was cash.
It was like people paid youwith cash or check in some cases
.
But anyway, fast forwardanother 30 days into May of 83.
(02:27):
I graduate college.
Then President Ronald Reaganwas our commencement speaker and
he talked about two things.
Now, I was not a Reagan fan, bythe way.
I was raised where my parentsdid not like President Reagan.
They were Democrats, they didnot like anything about him and
I didn't even want to go to mycollege commencement, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
My father, to his credit, said hey, even though we
don't like the guy, we respectthe office.
You need to go.
And I said, OK, out of respectto my dad, I'll go, but I'm not
going to listen.
I'm going to sit back with myarms like this.
I'm not going to listen, I'mgoing to go.
And he started talking, and hewas.
You know, the reason why theycalled him the great
communicator was he knew how tobreak down walls with people,
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and he started to talk about twothings that, to this day, get
to me.
One was the fact that thepeople in the then, you know,
east German market wanted whatthe West Germans had.
They wanted variety of food,variety of clothing, variety of
technology, you know, all thethings that you know people want
in the West that don'tnecessarily have in the East,
and that eventually, that thatiron curtain would fall, and
(03:33):
eventually did.
Second to that, though, whatreally got me was mentorship,
when he talked about the factthat in 1932, height of the
Depression, he went back toIllinois, where he was from,
worked as a lifeguard, talked toa very successful businessman
and said you know, I'm kind ofhaving a hard time finding a job
(03:54):
, blah, blah, blah.
And the businessman said to himwhat you need to do is you need
to find a business you'repassionate about.
Secondly, you need to find amentor to teach you that
business.
Well, he took that advice, gotinto broadcasting.
One thing led to another.
Eventually somebody heard him,they moved him out to California
and eventually became an actor,governor, president, et cetera.
(04:16):
So Reagan's message ofmentorship really got to me
because I said I'm beingmentored in this business not
only by the person whointroduced me to it, but by
people at that company as well.
And then fast forward aboutanother 30 days and, as luck
would have it, I wound up inHartford, connecticut, first
business meeting of my life.
I don't even own a suit and tie, to be honest with you.
(04:37):
At that time I showed up inslacks and a shirt, you know,
and I didn't have any clothes uh, business clothes.
So, uh, I go to this meeting.
And the fella at the meetingdoing the meeting said these
words.
He said for things to change,you have to change, and for
things to get better, you haveto get better.
Well, turns out that the lategreat jim rohan had written
(04:59):
those words a number of yearsbefore that, but that message
got to me that I was to be thebrand.
In other words, who thepresident was, who my parents
were, who my family was, wasinsignificant.
I had to work on me, on myself-development.
I had to become the brand, ifyou will, and I digest things
like Think and Grow Rich, and asa man Thinketh, and the
(05:22):
greatest salesman in the world,bob mandino, and all of these
different things that I couldget my hands on at the public
library.
I would go to the library, mylibrary card, and I'd go, like
self-development or whatever,and I'd find these titles and
I'd go and I'd read them and, uh, that began to get me thinking
correctly.
So I had this.
It was a, it was a crazy 60 daysof my life at a very tender age
(05:45):
of 20.
I turned 21 during that time,by the way, and, um, those
lessons have stayed with me forsome 42 years.
I still work on myself-development every single
day.
Uh, part of my faith andself-development.
I kind of see them as one inthe same, and I'm constantly
working at getting better,getting smarter and learning.
And as I've gotten older, likeeverybody else, you know, things
(06:09):
have changed.
I mean, I started my firstbusiness, doctor, the cell phone
.
The telephone plugged into thewall.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Today.
I mean, things are thetechnology has changed and call
me to marriage, no problem, butthings have changed, right.
I mean, I can only imagineyellow book pages, no problem,
but things have changed, right,I mean I can only imagine yellow
book pages.
The phone Now it's like thetech, everybody can get
everything nowadays.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It is crazy.
And so the last couple of years, or last year specifically,
I've focused on really twothings.
One is learning about AI,because AI is a game changer, as
we were talking about offscreen I mean, it's a game
changer.
I go back to about 20 years ago, when Bill Gates said there's
two types of businesses, thatthose will be the businesses
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online, with a web presence, andthose out of business.
And I think with AI now it'sthe same.
It's going to be the businessesthat apply AI, stay up with it
as it evolves and use it to thebest of their ability.
I think those businesses willsucceed.
And the other thing, of course,is what we're doing right now
podcasting, because this is thenew media.
(07:14):
This is how people are gettingtheir not necessarily their news
, but they're getting informedon topics like the things that
you cover on your show, thethings that I cover on my show,
the things that other podcasterscover, where they're hearing
from real people in the fieldwith specific topics that
they're interested in, andyou're hearing firsthand,
(07:34):
instead of hearing a reportertell them what they think they
heard.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Right, right, just like real information, and I
mean you hope most of it'schecked, but you know and also
sometimes the entertainment ofit, the information, and and
there there's that people getmore access to it.
I feel like the podcasts givepeople more access for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Exactly, exactly.
On a business front, what do Ido for a living?
Because podcasting is still afun thing, but not not a, not a
profitable venture.
I didn't start it for that.
I started it really just kindof to not only work on my
self-development, but I reallystarted in 2020, during COVID,
because I had written two booksthat came out almost
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simultaneously this, this one.
If you're in a, if you sell fora living, this book has a lot
of things in it.
It's called moving up 2020.
Yet on Amazon English orSpanish, by the way, digital as
well this book has a lot oftechnique in it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We'll put the links in the show notes for those to
reach out.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Great, and so this one came out right before
Christmas 2019 with the idea ofPerfect timing, perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We really need it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Not knowing a few weeks later what would happen.
And then this one came out,basically in late January,
called Leave Nothing to Chance.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And this one's more of a.
This is the brand new you justwrote.
This one Leave.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nothing to Chance.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This one no 2020.
Oh 2020 also Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So within 90 days?
Oh, that was a lot of writingfor.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And then right yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I've got two books that came out at the same time
during COVID.
So what do you do?
You got to do what my twofavorite words in business today
You've got to pivot and you'vegot to become agile.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You've got to go agile, ok.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now the pivot is real simple, if you think, I mean,
we've all played basketballsometime in our lives, right?
If you think if you're, ifyou're away from the basket,
another guy's coming down thecourt, he throws you the ball.
You pivot on your foot to turnto face the basket and try to
throw the ball into the hoop.
It's the same thing, kind of inbusiness, right?
All of a sudden I'm supposed tobe in 60 cities in all these
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different countries speakingabout my regular business which
I'll mention in a minute andpromoting my books and all of a
sudden I lose the ability to dothat because there are no
meetings and you can't reallyfly anywhere.
So what was I going to do?
So I pivoted to starting theLeaving Nothing to Chance
podcast, which you can get undermy name also John Soliter on
YouTube.
I pivoted to that to promote mybooks for the most part, not
knowing for how long, by the way.
(10:06):
I thought this was a short termsituation.
It's turned out to be a longterm situation with podcasting
and now growing with it.
And where's the agility coming?
The agility comes in to movebackwards and forwards, forward
and back in business.
In other words, sometimesyou've got to adjust because the
circumstance COVID would be aprime example of that, but
there's other examples of thatinterest rate fluctuations
(10:29):
recently, I mean there's all ofthese things where we got to be
agile.
Today the great thing is, withtechnology, we've become more
agile than we've ever beenbefore, because it's not like we
have to pick up and movesomewhere, for example, to do
business, but sometimes we justhave to move platform to
platform or technology totechnology.
So that's kind of what I'mdoing today, my regular business
(10:53):
.
29 years ago there was a verysmall company in Quebec, canada,
montreal, canada, that startedout to promote a product that
was the result of research doneat McGill University.
That started out in 1975,believe it or not, to promote a
product that was the result ofresearch done at McGill
University.
It started out in 1975, believeit or not.
My mother was sick in 1996, anda doctor in New York
(11:17):
recommended that she try thisparticular product.
Okay, and the product is calledImmunocal and it was developed
at McGill by two professors.
They ultimately did research atplaces like Pasteur, with Dr
Luc Montagnier, the Nobel Prizewinner for discovering the HIV
virus, dr Wolf Droga, who didresearch up in the German cancer
(11:42):
institutes up in Heidelberg, etcetera, et cetera.
1996, my mom gets on thisproduct.
I'm not really looking for abusiness.
I'm living in Tel Aviv, israel.
At the time, by the way, I hadgone over there to do a
consulting job for a friend'scompany and see the world a
little bit.
It's a great place to see theworld.
Yeah, that's great.
And I'm over there having agood time.
My sister calls and says Mom'ssick you.
(12:07):
And says mom's sick, you needto come back to New York, which
I did.
And, lo and behold, about 90days later I wind up in Canada,
in Montreal, and I find out moreand more about this particular
research, and it's onglutathione.
Some of your patients will befamiliar with it, some of your
listeners will, some won't,frankly, but it's something you
want to know about.
Ok, glutathione is every cellin your body, primarily liver,
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lungs and whites of your eyes,and we started to market this
product here in the UnitedStates and Canada.
I was really the firstsignificant person to join the
company to market it or otherpeople there when I got there,
but they never really did awhole lot and weren't really
marketing people.
And I got involved in marketingit and today we market market
in 18 countries around the world.
(12:49):
We're always looking for people, by the way, that are looking
for a side gig or side hustle.
You can just contact me fromthe show notes and I can help
you to do that.
And why would you want to workwith me?
Well, I've done thissuccessfully.
I've helped to build this brandand, by the way, there were
three other brands prior to thisthat I helped to become
household words, mostly in theone in the herbal market, one in
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the sports nutrition market andthe other in the weight control
market.
So I've been doing this for 42years.
So I kind of figured out somethings, but there's more to
figure out and I was looking fora good team of people to do
that.
And, once again, no obligation.
If you want to contact me,happy to tell you more about the
product, more about thebusiness.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh yeah, of course.
So how did Glutathione work foryour family and for your?
I mean?
Obviously business-wise that'sone, but I obviously believed in
it passionately, so it musthave helped business-wise that's
one, but I obviously believedin it passionately, so it must
have helped.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, my mom was 69 at the time she got on the
product.
She passed away in January of2020 at age 92.
So it helped her to see a lotof Helped her significantly.
Yeah, it helped her with a lotof Christmases, a lot of seeing
my kids be born.
I was a late bloomer, I gotmarried in my 40s so we got a
chance to meet my kids and watchthem grow up.
I mean, she wasn't here whenthey graduated high school, but
she was close and my sister'skids in New York.
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She had a chance to watch themgrow up and my niece get married
and have her own two kids andeverything else.
So yeah, big believer inglutathione and everything else.
So yeah, big believer inglutathione.
It's one of those things thatyou know.
Once again, it's not talkedabout every single day, but when
we began this in 1996, 97,nobody had ever heard.
We used to tell people becausethey couldn't say the word glue
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the tie on.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh, glue the tie on.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's great, like glue your tie on, you know.
And today, of course, it'sbecome very mainstream.
I mean, there's a lot ofcompanies, frankly, marketing
glutathione supplementation.
The thing with ours is we'vegot 91 patents to support it.
We've done all sorts ofresearch on everything from TBIs
to various cancers to you know,you name it HIV, etc.
(15:06):
To various cancers to you know,you name it HIV, et cetera.
But the other part of that is,if you just take a glutathione
tablets, they get destroyed inyour digestive tract.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You've got to get the pre-pandemic.
Yeah, I was actually going toask you that.
I said usually thebioavailability.
I have conversations withpeople of how is it ingested.
So is this a liposomal or isthis an inhalation or an
injection?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Actually it comes in a little envelope.
Oh, okay, it's whey protein.
Uh, mix it with juice.
If you want, mix it with water.
We've got like boosters thatcan go with it.
That uh help with a number ofdifferent uh things as well.
Uh, and for taste.
Of course, this particularone's for energy, but we've got
them for, you know, fruits andvegetables etc.
Etc.
Uh, the main thing is you gotto get the glutathione into your
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.
You're going to get the threeprecursors, amino acids, into
your gut to create theglutathione so it feeds the
cells.
That's one of the researchstudies that we did.
Along the way, companiesreinvested over $10 million, by
the way, in research.
So even though we are a networkmarketing company, we're a
serious research company.
We started out as a researchcompany in 1975.
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We were that till 1996.
And then the investors saidwell, we need a way to sell this
, to start to get it out to themarketplace number one and make
money from it.
Of course you know they had abig investment in it.
So 96 is when that began andwe're in 18 markets now.
So if you want to know about it, folks just contact me and I'm
happy to send you information,no obligation.
(16:30):
If you're interested, great.
If not, hey.
Once again, just something youneed to know about.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, no, I think glutathione has many benefits.
So, in general, I think that'simportant In reference to just
like your story and how you'vebeen now.
How are you, how is yourpodcast going?
How's your business?
Seems to be going Well.
How's your own health going?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
My own health's great .
Um, I made some changes in itas I got older.
Uh, I, I.
I adopted a vegetarian dieteight years ago.
I transitioned that last yearto a raw vegan diet.
Uh, january.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Wow, how's that going ?
I am not raw vegan.
No, I could do more vegetarian,but I'm not raw vegan.
No.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'm about 90% raw, Mostly fruit, some vegetables,
occasionally some nuts,Occasionally, once in a a great
while I do eat cooked.
I shouldn't admit that my rawvegan mentor is having a heart
attack right now.
But once in a while I do cook.
There are certain things likegreen beans, for example.
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I just have to eat them cooked.
For some reason they just don'ttaste good raw.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Got it.
Yeah, I think I haven't reallydone it.
There are certain things that Iwouldn't be able to digest well
if they weren't cooked ingeneral.
But yeah, no, that's great.
So you're juicing, do you let asmoothies a lot of?
Do you already cook a lot ofyour foods or you don't cook
them?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Mostly.
I mean I'm a huge fan of melons, honeydew, cantaloupe,
watermelon.
You know this time of year likewe grow watermelon here in
Texas, so that's great, Iactually grow it in my backyard.
But melons, berries, grapes, uh, sit some citrus uh uh.
Jackfruit, uh, some dorian oncein a while, dorian I mean have
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you had difficulty?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean there are more .
There are vegan communitiesthroughout the um areas, but I
know texas might be a littlechallenging uh, texas, texas is
interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This is, you know, it's beef country.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, that's so said here.
It might be interesting, but Iknow that Austin there are some
areas where there's a largevegetarian community, that there
are vegetarian restaurants.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Austin's become a big area of all kinds of
alternative health.
Frankly, dallas is evolvingslowly but surely.
There's more vegetarianrestaurants now than there were,
you know, when I first wentthis way eight years ago.
A vegetarian, not really rawvegan.
Once in a while, something popsup a raw vegan restaurant, but
unfortunately they reallyhaven't been able to be real
(19:00):
successful here as of yet.
Um, but I just spent two weeksin Costa Rica at a raw vegan uh
event.
That uh the guy who mentored me, a guy named Fran Turk, uh got
me into raw veganism a year agohim and his wife, uh, katie, and
they live in Costa Rica, on theCaribbean coast.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't know if you've been to Costa Rica, but I
have not, but I've heardwonderful things about the, the,
um, the meals and the, and thefood and the area.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
The fruits there are just amazing.
I mean incredible.
And coconuts, a lot of coconuts, jackfruit, I mean just about
everything grows there.
They just have a really greatclimate to grow fruits and
vegetables in.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sounds like a place for retirement for you.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, that's one thing we're looking at.
Yeah, I really like Costa Ricaand the ocean.
Yeah, people are greatEverybody's, not everybody, but
most people are fully bilingualtoo.
So I speak some Spanish, butnot enough to be dangerous.
My wife is French, but we metpeople there from everywhere, by
the way Germany, hungary, czechRepublic, obviously, all the
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Latino countries that are thatare in the vicinity, canada, of
course, americans, I mean.
It's become a real melting pot,if you will, of cultures, which
is good too.
So you got, you know you gotplenty of different variety of
people as well, but that becamea lifestyle and part of how I
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found that lifestyle.
By the way, I used to be 85pounds heavier than I am now and
I came off of being an athletefor many years.
I competed in the sport of judoprimarily.
I did some other sports as well, but I always competed as a
heavyweight.
And all of a sudden, you know,you start getting a little bit
older and you start realizing,like your joints, my joints, are
taking a beating with all thesports and I have multiple
(20:54):
surgery shoulder, back, etcetera and that was when I
changed my diet because I wantedto help my joints, my joint.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right.
So you learn thatanti-inflammatory and you really
change the perspective, but youtook it to another level and I
respect that and I think thatthat's surprising those that are
maybe listening.
Is it possible?
Is a certain type of diet makea difference?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, I think it absolutely.
I think, like everything right,what we put in our mouth is
going to determine our long-termhealth.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
100% agree with that.
Now, I don't think there's onediet, but I feel like, if this
one is working for you, I'mdefinitely an advocate for
things that are more natural.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So have you seen changes?
Well, what I found was that myjoints are never going to be
super healthy.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Right?
Well, I mean, they're going tochange over time, which is a
normal progression of aging.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I find, with the diet that I'm on now, that the
synovial fluid seems to reach myjoints a lot better than it did
when I was on a non-vegetariandiet.
That's one thing.
Thanks you, Losing weightalways helps.
I mean that certainly helps.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, but what I found is just everything from
digestion to sleep improvedbecause my body started to work
with the food I was ingesting,as opposed to fighting it, and
that would be my biggestsuggestion to people is, if you
try any change of diet, okay,like if what you're doing isn't
(22:29):
working and you try somethingdifferent, it doesn't have to be
raw vegan.
That's pretty extreme, rightright.
But whatever you try, do it witha doctor's care.
By the way, I always consultwith my doctors.
You know, like your patients,you want them to consult with
you and just say, hey, I'mthinking of making a change.
What do you think, doc?
And my doctor is South Africanand he's older than me.
He's 10 years older than me andhe's a big bicyclist.
(22:53):
And he was like hey, try it, Ifit works, great, If it doesn't,
you can always go back.
So my doc was very positive inhis approach, so I did consult
with him.
The other thing I did adifferent topic, but I also have
done two long-term water fasts.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, a long-term for you.
What is long-term for you?
What does that mean?
First one was 10 days.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, that is long-term.
Okay, that one was in Austinmedically supervised retired
chiropractor.
I stayed in his house.
He's got like a facility in hishouse that you stay at.
I spent 10 days duringThanksgiving, by the way.
Oh, wow, that's a challenge.
The funny part is I'm on thephone one night and I've got no
sound on.
I'm talking to a buddy of mineand you realize how good these
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people are at marketing foodbecause, hey, you're not eating,
but at the same time you'rewatching all these food
commercials and whatever theywould advertise you want.
If it was pizza, it was pizza.
If it was, you know, meat, itwas meat.
If it was the bread, it wasbread, it was.
You realize the psychology andyou go to that book that Dr
Goldhammer wrote.
Dr Goldhammer wrote and now I'mgoing to forget the title of it
(24:01):
Dr Alan Goldhammer from TrueNorth, and it's all about the
psychology of how good the foodindustry is and making food
taste good or making it like soit makes you eat more and you
realize I mean like it's rightup there with sex.
I mean the way that theyadvertise it's addiction, it's
literally.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
They make it like it's addicting.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You could smell it and taste it over the television
like I had to change thechannel.
I finally just said you know,let me just put on, I put on
like a basketball game orsomething and just said, let me,
let me not have anything withwith a lot of advertising on it.
Um, but that, that was.
That was one thing.
And then my second one answeryour was 21 days.
That I did last June.
That's a significant amount oftime.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
How did that go for him Physically?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
spiritually.
How did that go?
You know it went terrific.
I was surprised.
You know the first three days.
For anybody who's never fastedthe first three days day one,
you're living off yesterday'sfood.
Day two, you're living off someof yesterday and the day before
food.
Day three is when your bodystarts to kind of really clean
itself and the autophagy and allthat starts to happen.
(25:07):
And when that starts to happenis when you, like you look at
your arm and you're like youwant to chew your arm off about
the third day.
But if you make it through daythree to day four in my case, in
the two long-term ones thatI've done by day four all of a
sudden your body starts to workproperly and all of a sudden
you're getting a lot more,frankly, a lot more blood to
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your brain.
And what I found was by dayfour I wasn't hungry anymore.
Now my other advice to peopleon that if you are to do that,
number one, obviously withsupervision, consult your doctor
and work with them on it, oranother medical professional.
But number two if you can getto a facility to do it, great.
If you can't do that and you doit from home, you got to lay
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low.
I literally took 21 days offfrom my business.
I returned some phone calls andchecked emails, that kind of
thing, but I wasn't going to thegym, I wasn't working out, I
wasn't driving my car.
Okay, you know my wife was, waswas with me and she wasn't
doing the fast, but you know shewas here supervising me.
(26:13):
My oldest son was supervisingme as well.
So do it with supervision.
But you got to rest, becausewhat would happen is, you know,
I'd have a conversation likewe're having right now, feeling
great.
I get off the call five minuteslater, be like, wow, I need to
go sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I bet, because your body has just used up all the
energy that it's expended,probably for the day.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Exactly and plus, to get the best results.
You know the idea of a fast isyou're putting your body into
resting mode, resting inrecovery, so you don't want to
go.
Well, I'm going to miss the gym.
So if you're going to miss thegym, then don't do the fast, is
my advice to people.
It's like, do it.
It doesn't mean you can'tstretch and do a little yoga and
walk a little bit.
Obviously move your body, ofcourse, but you can't do what
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you normally do.
If you're a high-intensityathlete, you're going to have to
, you know, lay low for theperiod of the fast.
And then, of course, therefeeding is extremely important
, also just as important as thefast.
Frankly, you know you don't getoff a fast and go and just, you
know, munch out.
It's like you've got togradually reintroduce your body
(27:14):
to, you know, water-based foods,you know your watermelons and
things like that, to just kindof get your digestion, you know,
restarted.
So it was an interestingprocess, but it was a game
changer for me.
That 21 days was a major gamechanger, not just in terms of
helping me to keep off theweight that I had already lost,
because it helped me to do that,also from a psychological
(27:34):
standpoint.
It just proved to me that, hey,you can do this.
Okay, you didn't starve todeath, right, you didn't eat
your arm.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Right, right, and this is mostly water and tea, or
just water, just warm water 9.5pH water.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
you know lots and lots of it.
You know and and, by the way,that's one of the side benefits
I've honestly never been a greatwater drinker, but ever since
that fast, it's like Iappreciate water so much more
and what it does for my body.
So I really bet, you know likeI always got what it did, but
it's like the fact that it's,you know, roughly 70%, or
(28:11):
whatever it is, of our body andour brain.
It just kind of opened my eyesto how important water
consumption is on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That that I could not agree more, the fact that you
did it for 21 days.
I commend you for that and Imean, like you said, under
supervision and with goodpurpose.
I find that really necessaryand so I think that fasting in
general is necessary.
Now, long-term fasting there'sbeen so much research done.
Even if people do them one amonth or every couple of weeks,
(28:44):
I think it's important.
I myself do 12 to 14 hoursdaily for the rest of my life
and if I add in some of theselong-term ones, I think that
they are very effective.
I mean we just keep eating.
I mean you know the environmentand the.
You know the way in which, likewe said, like you said, the
environment and the.
You know the way in which, likewe said, like you said, the
(29:05):
advertising and the foods andthis, that and the other People
just keep eating and they justkeep eating.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know I found with that too.
I read a lot of the researchthat that Walter Longo did at
the Longevity Center out therein UCLA, yeah, and also the work
that Goldhammer and I'm havinga 64-year-old moment, I'm
forgetting his partner's nameHuberman.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh no, huberman maybe .
What is it?
Huberman?
I don't know what you're tryingto think about.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I know what you're talking about though, yeah, you
know who I mean.
I mean they've been doing it40-, 40 plus years up there in
California.
But you know, as you studythese different things, you know
you start to realize that thatthere are so many benefits to it
.
But you know, I go back to myathletic life for a second.
When I would get stronger inthe weight room is not when I
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would train heavy.
It was when I would be in restmode.
And you think about ourdigestion from the time we're
babies, we're ingesting,ingesting, ingesting, ingesting,
ingesting.
All of a sudden you'rebasically telling your gut hey,
I'm giving you whatever.
Seven days off, 10 days off, 21days off.
I'm kind of giving you a rest.
Well, what happens withanything when you give it a rest
(30:17):
is it generally comes backstronger over time?
The other thing I found wasthat I started to get some of
the best business thoughts I'veever had during that 21 day fast
.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And the only thing I did your own meditation.
You understand a lot more aboutbody than I do, certainly, but
what I found was that Maybe,maybe I do, maybe I don't just
because I've studied it, but Ifind it more when I.
Maybe, maybe I do, maybe Idon't just because I've studied
it, but I find it more when Inot the studying part when I was
practicing it personally, likeyou were practicing, so I I
don't think it's a matter ofjust studying.
I feel like it comes down to Ilearned more when I was in
(30:53):
meditation and doing nothingalso then then the actual doing
this, a bunch of stuff you know,the only thing I could surmise
is this if the blood's not goingto your gut, where's?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
it going it's going here, right, like, like
hippocrates said, right, youknow your brain is checking
stomach right.
So it's like, well, if yourfirst stomach isn't using the
blood because it's not working,it's just kind of turned off.
You know this is what what'susing it, you know, and that's
sort of water fast.
But I know, I know I've talkedto a lot of people that have
done, you know, uh, fast withjuices, fast, when they're still
drinking coffee.
(31:25):
You know that that's not,that's not a water fast.
I mean, that's a liquid fast,but it's not a water fast.
But to do it, to do a truewater fast, I mean you're
ingesting nothing but water.
You know, uh, and you know I'llbe getting trouble.
Of course.
You know rehydration fluid,which which, uh, you know
whoever's overseeing you cantalk to you about.
I didn't need that in eithercase, by the way, I was one of
those, like the guy in Austin.
(31:45):
He said you're a great faster.
I don't know how you become agreat faster.
I just, for whatever reason,had agreed with my body.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You didn't dehydrate too quickly.
You were able to take in.
You didn't have to add in anynew nutrients or anything.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I think too, and I'll just say this to people because
of the sports that I did youknow judo wrestling, you know
jujitsu, powerlifting as I gotolder.
Those were all weight, weightcentric sports where there were
times I had to make weight,where I had to step on a scale
and be a certain amount ofweight, which means I was used
to going sometimes a day or twodays without food.
So if you've never done that,once again I really recommend
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just be supervised, just havesomebody making sure you're okay
and your doctor would be theprimary person, your spouse, et
cetera.
I mean, just make sure you'vegot supervision.
It's not something you want todo if you live alone by yourself
, without anybody looking in onyou and making sure that you're
doing it properly.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You make good points.
No, I appreciate your insighton the pause.
I mean I literally made thispodcast of making mindful ways
every day and I appreciate youstating the pause in you know
the doing and that that takes alot.
It takes a lot of effort toreally understand that and that
things came up for you in thequiet.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Because it was like your body was like hey, hey.
So I think that's, I think it'sa really important key point
for people to understand.
So, before you leave today one,I'm going to put all of your
information on the show notes.
But one, how can people reachyou?
And two, what, what additionalinsight do you?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
have for those listening.
You can reach me a couple ofways, obviously, you know,
johnsollendercom,s-o-l-l-e-d-e-rcom.
Or if you want to send me atext I generally don't answer my
phone a lot because I get somany texts all day and so many
numbers I don't know, likeeverybody else does.
(33:49):
If you want to send me a text,say, hey, I heard the show,
interested in glutathione, orinterested in you know, side
hustle, whatever, or interestedin whatever for that matter, uh,
my, my number is 972-259-0875.
Just send me a text to say thatyou heard the show because,
like I said, if I don't knowwhat it is, I don't respond to
it.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
but, of, course yeah, for a mindfully integrative
show yeah, let me know where youheard of it.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Um, and if you want to listen to our show, you know
once again, you know, leavingnothing to chance is the name of
it, but you can also just getthere on youtube with my name,
john underscore solider or johnsolider, you'll, you'll find it.
We've had, you've nothing tochance.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And in your podcast, what do you um?
What's your stories andinsights that you um celebrate
and discuss?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
well, I'm sorry.
What's that?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
in your on your podcast, um what are the stories
and insights that you discuss?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
you know we discuss business.
I mean we started out as asmall business show but we've
morphed.
I mean I interviewed a guyyesterday, for example, who is a
Episcopalian bishop who goesaround the world singing OK, in
war-torn areas, and just youknow human interest.
I mean we want to hear thosestories too, because those
(34:54):
stories motivate us of whatother people are doing with
their lives.
We talk a lot about health.
Obviously So'd love to have youas a guest doctor uh.
We talk about nutrition.
We talk about, you know, skincare, sometimes longevity.
You know things that are goingto help somebody, because why
they listen to a podcast is tolearn something, right?
right, exactly, exactly you knowyou don't listen because you
(35:17):
like us.
I mean that that's a sidebenefit if you, if you happen to
like us, but you, you want toget off of there.
If you you spend a half hourlistening to a podcast, you want
to get off of there and say,hey, I learned something or
something I want to go check out.
You know something I wasn'tfamiliar with, that I want to
check out, that I hadn't heardof previously, you know.
So that's kind of the goal isto give people some good
information.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That sounds awesome.
I really appreciate you beingon the show and taking the time
to give some insight to thoselistening and watching, and I
really think that an importantkey, like I said previous, is
you know that pause there andyou have done so many things
already in your life, businessand and I can't wait people to
like either also reach out onthe book.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So I'm going to have that in the show notes for those
individuals to read and take alook at, and I will myself, and
I really do appreciate you beingon Thank you, continue to do
the great work that you're doingto inspire people and help
people, and we'll send you well,we can do this offline if you
want, but we'll send youinformation too, so we can get
(36:21):
you on our show.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And share our audience Sounds great.
I would appreciate it.
Thank you so much, and thankyou, guys, each and every one of
you, for listening and makesure you make it a mindful way
every day.
Hi, how are you?
This is Dr Damaris MariaGrossman, and this is the
Mindfully Integrative Show.
Today we have an amazing guest.
His name is John Salader.
He has years of experience anauthor, a speaker, business
owner and has even a supplementbusiness.
So I kind of want you to kindof dive in to learn more about
this individual, not only in anintegrative way, but kind of in
(00:22):
a business and mentorship way,and how can maybe change your
perspective.
So nice to meet you, john.
Thank you so much for being onthe show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thank you for the invitation, doctor, and I love
your show.
I've become a big fan of itover the last couple of months
and you're doing a great job andsharing some wonderful
information with people.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Thank you so much.
So what would you like to talkwith the audience about today,
and kind of a little bit aboutyourself?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, well, I'm a 42-year entrepreneur.
42 years ago, april, I startedmy very first business, and how
that happened was kind ofinteresting.
I was not somebody that went tobusiness school.
I wasn't somebody who you wouldlook at and say that guy's
interested in business.
Matter of fact, I had nointerest in business whatsoever.
(01:11):
I was a journalism major atSeton Hall University in New
Jersey and I was about tograduate college.
And April 18th 1983, a fellowwho I had wrestled with in high
school, who was a couple yearsolder than me, came into the gym
I was working out at and I wasworking a part-time selling
health club memberships, and hetold me about a business I could
(01:33):
start for $32, which at thetime I didn't know, and I was
like oh $32.
I'll write you a check, butyou're going to have to hold the
check.
And the joke between us for thelast 42 years has been I didn't
tell him what Friday he couldcash the check.
I said you can cash it onFriday.
I didn't tell him what Fridayand I started that business and
(01:54):
thinking you know, hey, I'lljust do what he tells me to do
and I'll play around with it andit'll be fun.
And lo and behold, that veryfirst month I made $800.
Lo and behold that very firstmonth I made $800.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's a lot out of a 32 investment $30.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I mean, today's dollar is about $2,500.
And I'm a young kid, I'm 20years old, right.
So, like you know, $800 or$2,500 today that's a lot of
money, right?
And of course, nobody hadcredit cards in those days, so
it was cash.
It was like people paid youwith cash or check in some cases
.
But anyway, fast forwardanother 30 days into May of 83.
(02:27):
I graduate college.
Then President Ronald Reaganwas our commencement speaker and
he talked about two things.
Now, I was not a Reagan fan, bythe way.
I was raised where my parentsdid not like President Reagan.
They were Democrats, they didnot like anything about him and
I didn't even want to go to mycollege commencement, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
My father, to his credit, said hey, even though we
don't like the guy, we respectthe office.
You need to go.
And I said, OK, out of respectto my dad, I'll go, but I'm not
going to listen.
I'm going to sit back with myarms like this.
I'm not going to listen, I'mgoing to go.
And he started talking, and hewas.
You know, the reason why theycalled him the great
communicator was he knew how tobreak down walls with people,
(03:10):
and he started to talk about twothings that, to this day, get
to me.
One was the fact that thepeople in the then, you know,
east German market wanted whatthe West Germans had.
They wanted variety of food,variety of clothing, variety of
technology, you know, all thethings that you know people want
in the West that don'tnecessarily have in the East,
and that eventually, that thatiron curtain would fall, and
(03:33):
eventually did.
Second to that, though, whatreally got me was mentorship,
when he talked about the factthat in 1932, height of the
Depression, he went back toIllinois, where he was from,
worked as a lifeguard, talked toa very successful businessman
and said you know, I'm kind ofhaving a hard time finding a job
(03:54):
, blah, blah, blah.
And the businessman said to himwhat you need to do is you need
to find a business you'repassionate about.
Secondly, you need to find amentor to teach you that
business.
Well, he took that advice, gotinto broadcasting.
One thing led to another.
Eventually somebody heard him,they moved him out to California
and eventually became an actor,governor, president, et cetera.
(04:16):
So Reagan's message ofmentorship really got to me
because I said I'm beingmentored in this business not
only by the person whointroduced me to it, but by
people at that company as well.
And then fast forward aboutanother 30 days and, as luck
would have it, I wound up inHartford, connecticut, first
business meeting of my life.
I don't even own a suit and tie, to be honest with you.
(04:37):
At that time I showed up inslacks and a shirt, you know,
and I didn't have any clothes uh, business clothes.
So, uh, I go to this meeting.
And the fella at the meetingdoing the meeting said these
words.
He said for things to change,you have to change, and for
things to get better, you haveto get better.
Well, turns out that the lategreat jim rohan had written
(04:59):
those words a number of yearsbefore that, but that message
got to me that I was to be thebrand.
In other words, who thepresident was, who my parents
were, who my family was, wasinsignificant.
I had to work on me, on myself-development.
I had to become the brand, ifyou will, and I digest things
like Think and Grow Rich, and asa man Thinketh, and the
(05:22):
greatest salesman in the world,bob mandino, and all of these
different things that I couldget my hands on at the public
library.
I would go to the library, mylibrary card, and I'd go, like
self-development or whatever,and I'd find these titles and
I'd go and I'd read them and, uh, that began to get me thinking
correctly.
So I had this.
It was a, it was a crazy 60 daysof my life at a very tender age
(05:45):
of 20.
I turned 21 during that time,by the way, and, um, those
lessons have stayed with me forsome 42 years.
I still work on myself-development every single
day.
Uh, part of my faith andself-development.
I kind of see them as one inthe same, and I'm constantly
working at getting better,getting smarter and learning.
And as I've gotten older, likeeverybody else, you know, things
(06:09):
have changed.
I mean, I started my firstbusiness, doctor, the cell phone
.
The telephone plugged into thewall.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Today.
I mean, things are thetechnology has changed and call
me to marriage, no problem, butthings have changed, right.
I mean, I can only imagineyellow book pages, no problem,
but things have changed, right,I mean I can only imagine yellow
book pages.
The phone Now it's like thetech, everybody can get
everything nowadays.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It is crazy.
And so the last couple of years, or last year specifically,
I've focused on really twothings.
One is learning about AI,because AI is a game changer, as
we were talking about offscreen I mean, it's a game
changer.
I go back to about 20 years ago, when Bill Gates said there's
two types of businesses, thatthose will be the businesses
(06:53):
online, with a web presence, andthose out of business.
And I think with AI now it'sthe same.
It's going to be the businessesthat apply AI, stay up with it
as it evolves and use it to thebest of their ability.
I think those businesses willsucceed.
And the other thing, of course,is what we're doing right now
podcasting, because this is thenew media.
(07:14):
This is how people are gettingtheir not necessarily their news
, but they're getting informedon topics like the things that
you cover on your show, thethings that I cover on my show,
the things that other podcasterscover, where they're hearing
from real people in the fieldwith specific topics that
they're interested in, andyou're hearing firsthand,
(07:34):
instead of hearing a reportertell them what they think they
heard.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Right, right, just like real information, and I
mean you hope most of it'schecked, but you know and also
sometimes the entertainment ofit, the information, and and
there there's that people getmore access to it.
I feel like the podcasts givepeople more access for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Exactly, exactly.
On a business front, what do Ido for a living?
Because podcasting is still afun thing, but not not a, not a
profitable venture.
I didn't start it for that.
I started it really just kindof to not only work on my
self-development, but I reallystarted in 2020, during COVID,
because I had written two booksthat came out almost
(08:16):
simultaneously this, this one.
If you're in a, if you sell fora living, this book has a lot
of things in it.
It's called moving up 2020.
Yet on Amazon English orSpanish, by the way, digital as
well this book has a lot oftechnique in it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We'll put the links in the show notes for those to
reach out.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Great, and so this one came out right before
Christmas 2019 with the idea ofPerfect timing, perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We really need it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Not knowing a few weeks later what would happen.
And then this one came out,basically in late January,
called Leave Nothing to Chance.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And this one's more of a.
This is the brand new you justwrote.
This one Leave.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nothing to Chance.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This one no 2020.
Oh 2020 also Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So within 90 days?
Oh, that was a lot of writingfor.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And then right yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I've got two books that came out at the same time
during COVID.
So what do you do?
You got to do what my twofavorite words in business today
You've got to pivot and you'vegot to become agile.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You've got to go agile, ok.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now the pivot is real simple, if you think, I mean,
we've all played basketballsometime in our lives, right?
If you think if you're, ifyou're away from the basket,
another guy's coming down thecourt, he throws you the ball.
You pivot on your foot to turnto face the basket and try to
throw the ball into the hoop.
It's the same thing, kind of inbusiness, right?
All of a sudden I'm supposed tobe in 60 cities in all these
(09:45):
different countries speakingabout my regular business which
I'll mention in a minute andpromoting my books and all of a
sudden I lose the ability to dothat because there are no
meetings and you can't reallyfly anywhere.
So what was I going to do?
So I pivoted to starting theLeaving Nothing to Chance
podcast, which you can get undermy name also John Soliter on
YouTube.
I pivoted to that to promote mybooks for the most part, not
knowing for how long, by the way.
(10:06):
I thought this was a short termsituation.
It's turned out to be a longterm situation with podcasting
and now growing with it.
And where's the agility coming?
The agility comes in to movebackwards and forwards, forward
and back in business.
In other words, sometimesyou've got to adjust because the
circumstance COVID would be aprime example of that, but
there's other examples of thatinterest rate fluctuations
(10:29):
recently, I mean there's all ofthese things where we got to be
agile.
Today the great thing is, withtechnology, we've become more
agile than we've ever beenbefore, because it's not like we
have to pick up and movesomewhere, for example, to do
business, but sometimes we justhave to move platform to
platform or technology totechnology.
So that's kind of what I'mdoing today, my regular business
(10:53):
.
29 years ago there was a verysmall company in Quebec, canada,
montreal, canada, that startedout to promote a product that
was the result of research doneat McGill University.
That started out in 1975,believe it or not, to promote a
product that was the result ofresearch done at McGill
University.
It started out in 1975, believeit or not.
My mother was sick in 1996, anda doctor in New York
(11:17):
recommended that she try thisparticular product.
Okay, and the product is calledImmunocal and it was developed
at McGill by two professors.
They ultimately did research atplaces like Pasteur, with Dr
Luc Montagnier, the Nobel Prizewinner for discovering the HIV
virus, dr Wolf Droga, who didresearch up in the German cancer
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institutes up in Heidelberg, etcetera, et cetera.
1996, my mom gets on thisproduct.
I'm not really looking for abusiness.
I'm living in Tel Aviv, israel.
At the time, by the way, I hadgone over there to do a
consulting job for a friend'scompany and see the world a
little bit.
It's a great place to see theworld.
Yeah, that's great.
And I'm over there having agood time.
My sister calls and says Mom'ssick you.
(12:07):
And says mom's sick, you needto come back to New York, which
I did.
And, lo and behold, about 90days later I wind up in Canada,
in Montreal, and I find out moreand more about this particular
research, and it's onglutathione.
Some of your patients will befamiliar with it, some of your
listeners will, some won't,frankly, but it's something you
want to know about.
Ok, glutathione is every cellin your body, primarily liver,
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lungs and whites of your eyes,and we started to market this
product here in the UnitedStates and Canada.
I was really the firstsignificant person to join the
company to market it or otherpeople there when I got there,
but they never really did awhole lot and weren't really
marketing people.
And I got involved in marketingit and today we market market
in 18 countries around the world.
(12:49):
We're always looking for people, by the way, that are looking
for a side gig or side hustle.
You can just contact me fromthe show notes and I can help
you to do that.
And why would you want to workwith me?
Well, I've done thissuccessfully.
I've helped to build this brandand, by the way, there were
three other brands prior to thisthat I helped to become
household words, mostly in theone in the herbal market, one in
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the sports nutrition market andthe other in the weight control
market.
So I've been doing this for 42years.
So I kind of figured out somethings, but there's more to
figure out and I was looking fora good team of people to do
that.
And, once again, no obligation.
If you want to contact me,happy to tell you more about the
product, more about thebusiness.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh yeah, of course.
So how did Glutathione work foryour family and for your?
I mean?
Obviously business-wise that'sone, but I obviously believed in
it passionately, so it musthave helped business-wise that's
one, but I obviously believedin it passionately, so it must
have helped.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, my mom was 69 at the time she got on the
product.
She passed away in January of2020 at age 92.
So it helped her to see a lotof Helped her significantly.
Yeah, it helped her with a lotof Christmases, a lot of seeing
my kids be born.
I was a late bloomer, I gotmarried in my 40s so we got a
chance to meet my kids and watchthem grow up.
I mean, she wasn't here whenthey graduated high school, but
she was close and my sister'skids in New York.
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She had a chance to watch themgrow up and my niece get married
and have her own two kids andeverything else.
So yeah, big believer inglutathione and everything else.
So yeah, big believer inglutathione.
It's one of those things thatyou know.
Once again, it's not talkedabout every single day, but when
we began this in 1996, 97,nobody had ever heard.
We used to tell people becausethey couldn't say the word glue
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the tie on.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Oh, glue the tie on.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's great, like glue your tie on, you know.
And today, of course, it'sbecome very mainstream.
I mean, there's a lot ofcompanies, frankly, marketing
glutathione supplementation.
The thing with ours is we'vegot 91 patents to support it.
We've done all sorts ofresearch on everything from TBIs
to various cancers to you know,you name it HIV, etc.
(15:06):
To various cancers to you know,you name it HIV, et cetera.
But the other part of that is,if you just take a glutathione
tablets, they get destroyed inyour digestive tract.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You've got to get the pre-pandemic.
Yeah, I was actually going toask you that.
I said usually thebioavailability.
I have conversations withpeople of how is it ingested.
So is this a liposomal or isthis an inhalation or an
injection?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Actually it comes in a little envelope.
Oh, okay, it's whey protein.
Uh, mix it with juice.
If you want, mix it with water.
We've got like boosters thatcan go with it.
That uh help with a number ofdifferent uh things as well.
Uh, and for taste.
Of course, this particularone's for energy, but we've got
them for, you know, fruits andvegetables etc.
Etc.
Uh, the main thing is you gotto get the glutathione into your
(15:47):
.
You're going to get the threeprecursors, amino acids, into
your gut to create theglutathione so it feeds the
cells.
That's one of the researchstudies that we did.
Along the way, companiesreinvested over $10 million, by
the way, in research.
So even though we are a networkmarketing company, we're a
serious research company.
We started out as a researchcompany in 1975.
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We were that till 1996.
And then the investors saidwell, we need a way to sell this
, to start to get it out to themarketplace number one and make
money from it.
Of course you know they had abig investment in it.
So 96 is when that began andwe're in 18 markets now.
So if you want to know about it, folks just contact me and I'm
happy to send you information,no obligation.
(16:30):
If you're interested, great.
If not, hey.
Once again, just something youneed to know about.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, no, I think glutathione has many benefits.
So, in general, I think that'simportant In reference to just
like your story and how you'vebeen now.
How are you, how is yourpodcast going?
How's your business?
Seems to be going Well.
How's your own health going?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
My own health's great .
Um, I made some changes in itas I got older.
Uh, I, I.
I adopted a vegetarian dieteight years ago.
I transitioned that last yearto a raw vegan diet.
Uh, january.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Wow, how's that going ?
I am not raw vegan.
No, I could do more vegetarian,but I'm not raw vegan.
No.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'm about 90% raw, Mostly fruit, some vegetables,
occasionally some nuts,Occasionally, once in a a great
while I do eat cooked.
I shouldn't admit that my rawvegan mentor is having a heart
attack right now.
But once in a while I do cook.
There are certain things likegreen beans, for example.
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I just have to eat them cooked.
For some reason they just don'ttaste good raw.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Got it.
Yeah, I think I haven't reallydone it.
There are certain things that Iwouldn't be able to digest well
if they weren't cooked ingeneral.
But yeah, no, that's great.
So you're juicing, do you let asmoothies a lot of?
Do you already cook a lot ofyour foods or you don't cook
them?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Mostly.
I mean I'm a huge fan of melons, honeydew, cantaloupe,
watermelon.
You know this time of year likewe grow watermelon here in
Texas, so that's great, Iactually grow it in my backyard.
But melons, berries, grapes, uh, sit some citrus uh uh.
Jackfruit, uh, some dorian oncein a while, dorian I mean have
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you had difficulty?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean there are more .
There are vegan communitiesthroughout the um areas, but I
know texas might be a littlechallenging uh, texas, texas is
interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This is, you know, it's beef country.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, that's so said here.
It might be interesting, but Iknow that Austin there are some
areas where there's a largevegetarian community, that there
are vegetarian restaurants.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Austin's become a big area of all kinds of
alternative health.
Frankly, dallas is evolvingslowly but surely.
There's more vegetarianrestaurants now than there were,
you know, when I first wentthis way eight years ago.
A vegetarian, not really rawvegan.
Once in a while, something popsup a raw vegan restaurant, but
unfortunately they reallyhaven't been able to be real
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successful here as of yet.
Um, but I just spent two weeksin Costa Rica at a raw vegan uh
event.
That uh the guy who mentored me, a guy named Fran Turk, uh got
me into raw veganism a year agohim and his wife, uh, katie, and
they live in Costa Rica, on theCaribbean coast.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't know if you've been to Costa Rica, but I
have not, but I've heardwonderful things about the, the,
um, the meals and the, and thefood and the area.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
The fruits there are just amazing.
I mean incredible.
And coconuts, a lot of coconuts, jackfruit, I mean just about
everything grows there.
They just have a really greatclimate to grow fruits and
vegetables in.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sounds like a place for retirement for you.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, that's one thing we're looking at.
Yeah, I really like Costa Ricaand the ocean.
Yeah, people are greatEverybody's, not everybody, but
most people are fully bilingualtoo.
So I speak some Spanish, butnot enough to be dangerous.
My wife is French, but we metpeople there from everywhere, by
the way Germany, hungary, czechRepublic, obviously, all the
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Latino countries that are thatare in the vicinity, canada, of
course, americans, I mean.
It's become a real melting pot,if you will, of cultures, which
is good too.
So you got, you know you gotplenty of different variety of
people as well, but that becamea lifestyle and part of how I
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found that lifestyle.
By the way, I used to be 85pounds heavier than I am now and
I came off of being an athletefor many years.
I competed in the sport of judoprimarily.
I did some other sports as well, but I always competed as a
heavyweight.
And all of a sudden, you know,you start getting a little bit
older and you start realizing,like your joints, my joints, are
taking a beating with all thesports and I have multiple
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surgery shoulder, back, etcetera and that was when I
changed my diet because I wantedto help my joints, my joint.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Right.
So you learn thatanti-inflammatory and you really
change the perspective, but youtook it to another level and I
respect that and I think thatthat's surprising those that are
maybe listening.
Is it possible?
Is a certain type of diet makea difference?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, I think it absolutely.
I think, like everything right,what we put in our mouth is
going to determine our long-termhealth.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
100% agree with that.
Now, I don't think there's onediet, but I feel like, if this
one is working for you, I'mdefinitely an advocate for
things that are more natural.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So have you seen changes?
Well, what I found was that myjoints are never going to be
super healthy.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Right?
Well, I mean, they're going tochange over time, which is a
normal progression of aging.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I find, with the diet that I'm on now, that the
synovial fluid seems to reach myjoints a lot better than it did
when I was on a non-vegetariandiet.
That's one thing.
Thanks you, Losing weightalways helps.
I mean that certainly helps.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, but what I found is just everything from
digestion to sleep improvedbecause my body started to work
with the food I was ingesting,as opposed to fighting it, and
that would be my biggestsuggestion to people is, if you
try any change of diet, okay,like if what you're doing isn't
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working and you try somethingdifferent, it doesn't have to be
raw vegan.
That's pretty extreme, rightright.
But whatever you try, do it witha doctor's care.
By the way, I always consultwith my doctors.
You know, like your patients,you want them to consult with
you and just say, hey, I'mthinking of making a change.
What do you think, doc?
And my doctor is South Africanand he's older than me.
He's 10 years older than me andhe's a big bicyclist.
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And he was like hey, try it, Ifit works, great, If it doesn't,
you can always go back.
So my doc was very positive inhis approach, so I did consult
with him.
The other thing I did adifferent topic, but I also have
done two long-term water fasts.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Okay, a long-term for you.
What is long-term for you?
What does that mean?
First one was 10 days.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, that is long-term.
Okay, that one was in Austinmedically supervised retired
chiropractor.
I stayed in his house.
He's got like a facility in hishouse that you stay at.
I spent 10 days duringThanksgiving, by the way.
Oh, wow, that's a challenge.
The funny part is I'm on thephone one night and I've got no
sound on.
I'm talking to a buddy of mineand you realize how good these
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people are at marketing foodbecause, hey, you're not eating,
but at the same time you'rewatching all these food
commercials and whatever theywould advertise you want.
If it was pizza, it was pizza.
If it was, you know, meat, itwas meat.
If it was the bread, it wasbread, it was.
You realize the psychology andyou go to that book that Dr
Goldhammer wrote.
Dr Goldhammer wrote and now I'mgoing to forget the title of it
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Dr Alan Goldhammer from TrueNorth, and it's all about the
psychology of how good the foodindustry is and making food
taste good or making it like soit makes you eat more and you
realize I mean like it's rightup there with sex.
I mean the way that theyadvertise it's addiction, it's
literally.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
They make it like it's addicting.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You could smell it and taste it over the television
like I had to change thechannel.
I finally just said you know,let me just put on, I put on
like a basketball game orsomething and just said, let me,
let me not have anything withwith a lot of advertising on it.
Um, but that, that was.
That was one thing.
And then my second one answeryour was 21 days.
That I did last June.
That's a significant amount oftime.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
How did that go for him Physically?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
spiritually.
How did that go?
You know it went terrific.
I was surprised.
You know the first three days.
For anybody who's never fastedthe first three days day one,
you're living off yesterday'sfood.
Day two, you're living off someof yesterday and the day before
food.
Day three is when your bodystarts to kind of really clean
itself and the autophagy and allthat starts to happen.
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And when that starts to happenis when you, like you look at
your arm and you're like youwant to chew your arm off about
the third day.
But if you make it through daythree to day four in my case, in
the two long-term ones thatI've done by day four all of a
sudden your body starts to workproperly and all of a sudden
you're getting a lot more,frankly, a lot more blood to
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your brain.
And what I found was by dayfour I wasn't hungry anymore.
Now my other advice to peopleon that if you are to do that,
number one, obviously withsupervision, consult your doctor
and work with them on it, oranother medical professional.
But number two if you can getto a facility to do it, great.
If you can't do that and you doit from home, you got to lay
(25:52):
low.
I literally took 21 days offfrom my business.
I returned some phone calls andchecked emails, that kind of
thing, but I wasn't going to thegym, I wasn't working out, I
wasn't driving my car.
Okay, you know my wife was, waswas with me and she wasn't
doing the fast, but you know shewas here supervising me.
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My oldest son was supervisingme as well.
So do it with supervision.
But you got to rest, becausewhat would happen is, you know,
I'd have a conversation likewe're having right now, feeling
great.
I get off the call five minuteslater, be like, wow, I need to
go sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I bet, because your body has just used up all the
energy that it's expended,probably for the day.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Exactly and plus, to get the best results.
You know the idea of a fast isyou're putting your body into
resting mode, resting inrecovery, so you don't want to
go.
Well, I'm going to miss the gym.
So if you're going to miss thegym, then don't do the fast, is
my advice to people.
It's like, do it.
It doesn't mean you can'tstretch and do a little yoga and
walk a little bit.
Obviously move your body, ofcourse, but you can't do what
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you normally do.
If you're a high-intensityathlete, you're going to have to
, you know, lay low for theperiod of the fast.
And then, of course, therefeeding is extremely important
, also just as important as thefast.
Frankly, you know you don't getoff a fast and go and just, you
know, munch out.
It's like you've got togradually reintroduce your body
(27:14):
to, you know, water-based foods,you know your watermelons and
things like that, to just kindof get your digestion, you know,
restarted.
So it was an interestingprocess, but it was a game
changer for me.
That 21 days was a major gamechanger, not just in terms of
helping me to keep off theweight that I had already lost,
because it helped me to do that,also from a psychological
(27:34):
standpoint.
It just proved to me that, hey,you can do this.
Okay, you didn't starve todeath, right, you didn't eat
your arm.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Right, right, and this is mostly water and tea, or
just water, just warm water 9.5pH water.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
you know lots and lots of it.
You know and and, by the way,that's one of the side benefits
I've honestly never been a greatwater drinker, but ever since
that fast, it's like Iappreciate water so much more
and what it does for my body.
So I really bet, you know likeI always got what it did, but
it's like the fact that it's,you know, roughly 70%, or
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whatever it is, of our body andour brain.
It just kind of opened my eyesto how important water
consumption is on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
That that I could not agree more, the fact that you
did it for 21 days.
I commend you for that and Imean, like you said, under
supervision and with goodpurpose.
I find that really necessaryand so I think that fasting in
general is necessary.
Now, long-term fasting there'sbeen so much research done.
Even if people do them one amonth or every couple of weeks,
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I think it's important.
I myself do 12 to 14 hoursdaily for the rest of my life
and if I add in some of theselong-term ones, I think that
they are very effective.
I mean we just keep eating.
I mean you know the environmentand the.
You know the way in which, likewe said, like you said, the
environment and the.
You know the way in which, likewe said, like you said, the
(29:05):
advertising and the foods andthis, that and the other People
just keep eating and they justkeep eating.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know I found with that too.
I read a lot of the researchthat that Walter Longo did at
the Longevity Center out therein UCLA, yeah, and also the work
that Goldhammer and I'm havinga 64-year-old moment, I'm
forgetting his partner's nameHuberman.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh no, huberman maybe .
What is it?
Huberman?
I don't know what you're tryingto think about.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I know what you're talking about though, yeah, you
know who I mean.
I mean they've been doing it40-, 40 plus years up there in
California.
But you know, as you studythese different things, you know
you start to realize that thatthere are so many benefits to it
.
But you know, I go back to myathletic life for a second.
When I would get stronger inthe weight room is not when I
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would train heavy.
It was when I would be in restmode.
And you think about ourdigestion from the time we're
babies, we're ingesting,ingesting, ingesting, ingesting,
ingesting.
All of a sudden you'rebasically telling your gut hey,
I'm giving you whatever.
Seven days off, 10 days off, 21days off.
I'm kind of giving you a rest.
Well, what happens withanything when you give it a rest
(30:17):
is it generally comes backstronger over time?
The other thing I found wasthat I started to get some of
the best business thoughts I'veever had during that 21 day fast
.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And the only thing I did your own meditation.
You understand a lot more aboutbody than I do, certainly, but
what I found was that Maybe,maybe I do, maybe I don't just
because I've studied it, but Ifind it more when I.
Maybe, maybe I do, maybe Idon't just because I've studied
it, but I find it more when Inot the studying part when I was
practicing it personally, likeyou were practicing, so I I
don't think it's a matter ofjust studying.
I feel like it comes down to Ilearned more when I was in
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meditation and doing nothingalso then then the actual doing
this, a bunch of stuff you know,the only thing I could surmise
is this if the blood's not goingto your gut, where's?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
it going it's going here, right, like, like
hippocrates said, right, youknow your brain is checking
stomach right.
So it's like, well, if yourfirst stomach isn't using the
blood because it's not working,it's just kind of turned off.
You know this is what what'susing it, you know, and that's
sort of water fast.
But I know, I know I've talkedto a lot of people that have
done, you know, uh, fast withjuices, fast, when they're still
drinking coffee.
(31:25):
You know that that's not,that's not a water fast.
I mean, that's a liquid fast,but it's not a water fast.
But to do it, to do a truewater fast, I mean you're
ingesting nothing but water.
You know, uh, and you know I'llbe getting trouble.
Of course.
You know rehydration fluid,which which, uh, you know
whoever's overseeing you cantalk to you about.
I didn't need that in eithercase, by the way, I was one of
those, like the guy in Austin.
(31:45):
He said you're a great faster.
I don't know how you become agreat faster.
I just, for whatever reason,had agreed with my body.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You didn't dehydrate too quickly.
You were able to take in.
You didn't have to add in anynew nutrients or anything.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I think too, and I'll just say this to people because
of the sports that I did youknow judo wrestling, you know
jujitsu, powerlifting as I gotolder.
Those were all weight, weightcentric sports where there were
times I had to make weight,where I had to step on a scale
and be a certain amount ofweight, which means I was used
to going sometimes a day or twodays without food.
So if you've never done that,once again I really recommend
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just be supervised, just havesomebody making sure you're okay
and your doctor would be theprimary person, your spouse, et
cetera.
I mean, just make sure you'vegot supervision.
It's not something you want todo if you live alone by yourself
, without anybody looking in onyou and making sure that you're
doing it properly.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You make good points.
No, I appreciate your insighton the pause.
I mean I literally made thispodcast of making mindful ways
every day and I appreciate youstating the pause in you know
the doing and that that takes alot.
It takes a lot of effort toreally understand that and that
things came up for you in thequiet.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Because it was like your body was like hey, hey.
So I think that's, I think it'sa really important key point
for people to understand.
So, before you leave today one,I'm going to put all of your
information on the show notes.
But one, how can people reachyou?
And two, what, what additionalinsight do you?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
have for those listening.
You can reach me a couple ofways, obviously, you know,
johnsollendercom,s-o-l-l-e-d-e-rcom.
Or if you want to send me atext I generally don't answer my
phone a lot because I get somany texts all day and so many
numbers I don't know, likeeverybody else does.
(33:49):
If you want to send me a text,say, hey, I heard the show,
interested in glutathione, orinterested in you know, side
hustle, whatever, or interestedin whatever for that matter, uh,
my, my number is 972-259-0875.
Just send me a text to say thatyou heard the show because,
like I said, if I don't knowwhat it is, I don't respond to
it.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
but, of, course yeah, for a mindfully integrative
show yeah, let me know where youheard of it.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Um, and if you want to listen to our show, you know
once again, you know, leavingnothing to chance is the name of
it, but you can also just getthere on youtube with my name,
john underscore solider or johnsolider, you'll, you'll find it.
We've had, you've nothing tochance.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And in your podcast, what do you um?
What's your stories andinsights that you um celebrate
and discuss?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
well, I'm sorry.
What's that?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
in your on your podcast, um what are the stories
and insights that you discuss?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
you know we discuss business.
I mean we started out as asmall business show but we've
morphed.
I mean I interviewed a guyyesterday, for example, who is a
Episcopalian bishop who goesaround the world singing OK, in
war-torn areas, and just youknow human interest.
I mean we want to hear thosestories too, because those
(34:54):
stories motivate us of whatother people are doing with
their lives.
We talk a lot about health.
Obviously So'd love to have youas a guest doctor uh.
We talk about nutrition.
We talk about, you know, skincare, sometimes longevity.
You know things that are goingto help somebody, because why
they listen to a podcast is tolearn something, right?
right, exactly, exactly you knowyou don't listen because you
(35:17):
like us.
I mean that that's a sidebenefit if you, if you happen to
like us, but you, you want toget off of there.
If you you spend a half hourlistening to a podcast, you want
to get off of there and say,hey, I learned something or
something I want to go check out.
You know something I wasn'tfamiliar with, that I want to
check out, that I hadn't heardof previously, you know.
So that's kind of the goal isto give people some good
information.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That sounds awesome.
I really appreciate you beingon the show and taking the time
to give some insight to thoselistening and watching, and I
really think that an importantkey, like I said previous, is
you know that pause there andyou have done so many things
already in your life, businessand and I can't wait people to
like either also reach out onthe book.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
So I'm going to have that in the show notes for those
individuals to read and take alook at, and I will myself, and
I really do appreciate you beingon Thank you, continue to do
the great work that you're doingto inspire people and help
people, and we'll send you well,we can do this offline if you
want, but we'll send youinformation too, so we can get
(36:21):
you on our show.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And share our audience Sounds great.
I would appreciate it.
Thank you so much, and thankyou, guys, each and every one of
you, for listening and makesure you make it a mindful way
every day.
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