April 20, 2025 • 13 mins
The Misfit Preachers dive deep into the heart of the resurrection in a lively chat that feels like a coffee break with your most spirited friends. They tackle why the resurrection is not just some ancient story but the absolute game-changer for everyone who believes. We’re talking about the moment when Jesus kicked death to the curb—yeah, that's right, He walked out of that tomb like it was no big deal! The discussion spins around how this colossal event validates everything we know about Jesus and His teachings. If He can conquer death, what can’t He do? The guys share personal stories, crack jokes, and drop some serious knowledge, all while reminding us that the resurrection gives us hope like a double scoop of ice cream on a hot day. It’s a reminder that our struggles here won’t last forever, and there’s a glorious promise waiting for us beyond this life. So grab your earbuds and buckle up; this is a ride through faith that’s both heartfelt and hilarious!
Takeaways:
- We chatted about how the resurrection of Jesus is basically the ultimate game-changer for everything. Like, without it, we're all just spinning our wheels in the mud!
- One of the best parts of our convo was how the resurrection gives us hope for the future, promising that our toughest days won't last forever and the best is yet to come!
- We had a laugh explaining that if other religious leaders didn’t walk out of graves, then we should probably pay attention to the one who did, right?
- The resurrection is like a divine stamp of approval on everything Jesus said and did—talk about validation, am I right?
- We agreed that the resurrection isn't just a one-time event; it's the first step in a cosmic renewal where everything gets set right again, and it's gonna be awesome!
- We also touched on how the resurrection gives us hope that someday, all our struggles will fade away, and we'll live life without the pesky thorns of sin!
Chapters:
- 00:18 - Introduction of New Topics: Belief and Transformation
- 00:38 - The Significance of the Resurrection
- 04:55 - The Promise of Resurrection and Hope
- 07:38 - The Impact of the Resurrection on Life Choices
- 10:44 - Struggles and Growth in Faith
- 12:06 - The Healing Promise
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Transcript
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(00:01):
You're listening to the misfitpreachers talian Chavigian, Jean
LaRue, and Byron Yan from ProdigalPodcast.com.
we're plagiarizing Jesus onepodcast at a time.
Now here are the misfits.
All right, guys, so I haveloved this discussion.
(00:22):
I came to believe in Christ inepisode one of this and episode two,
and I'm sure it'll be the case here.
I've placed my faith in him.
Again, thank you for justextolling the virtues of the supper.
Christ as the lamb, the cross,Christ as the atoning sacrifice for
Byron.
For me, let's talk about theresurrection, which is really the
(00:45):
culmination of all theseevents on Easter Sunday, what we
celebrate, Resurrection Sunday.
Jesus coming forth from the grave.
Fundamental question, why doesit matter?
Why does the resurrectionmatter at all?
Which is a giant softballmachine over there being hit to you.
(01:08):
Oh, gosh.
There's so many things youcould say.
The divine validation ofeverything we said about the perfection
of Jesus was his being raisedfrom the dead.
If you start with the penalty,that the penalty for human treachery
was death, and then you have aperfect human who is the sacrifice
(01:33):
for that treachery, and hesuffers the death that we deserved.
And yet three days later, thestone rolls away and he walks out
of the grave.
You know what that means?
It was real.
It was real.
Mohammed did not walk out ofthe grave.
Confucius did not walk out ofthe grave.
(01:55):
No one else walked out of thegrave, but this God.
Man took on flesh, paid thepenalty and walked out of the grave
and ate food and touchedpeople and touched lives.
And what that means is, isthat you can bank on it.
If you are hidden in him, youwill die, but not forever.
(02:17):
That's right.
Yeah.
The first fruits of a harvestthat is to come.
Yeah.
I mean, you're right.
There are a lot of guys outthere that had a lot of knowledge
about God that I could haveplaced my faith in, but they're dead.
They're dead.
They're dead.
Why place your faith in aperson that tells you he can conquer
death, but death conquered him.
(02:38):
Yeah.
The high priest walks out ofthe holy of holies and the sacrifice
is accepted.
Yeah.
Your thoughts?
Yeah.
I mean, the simplest way forme to put it, since my spiritual
giftedness is sloganeering, is.
Is that the.
The resurrection is the Father's.
(02:59):
Amen to the sons.
It is finished on the cross.
That's what it is.
Divine validation.
Amazing phrase.
Absolutely true.
And then, of course, if youWant to tease it out even further?
You recognize when Pauldescribes the resurrection of Jesus
as the first fruits.
Well, what does that mean?
(03:20):
It means that Jesus was thefirst bit of material order to rise
from the dead forever and thatthe rest will follow.
Those who are in the entirecosmic order.
Is, as Paul describes inRomans, chapter eight is.
(03:42):
I mean, is groaning forrenewal like the pains of childbirth.
And if you've ever been in theroom when any of your children were
born, I was for all three of mine.
And each painful contractiontheir mother had was the promise
that new life was on the way.
(04:03):
So the resurrection setsthings right for eternity, and it
infuses us with a tremendousamount of hope that the best is yet
to come.
And it's not just that I'mgoing to go to heaven when I die
and sit on a cloud as somedisembodied spirit.
(04:24):
The way the Bible describes itis concrete.
It's.
It's physical.
You know, in Revelation, John,in some different ways, kind of describes,
like, colors he's never seenand trees that speak and dance and
all of this stuff, and youjust go, none of that's possible
(04:45):
without the resurrection.
If.
If Jesus was the first bit ofmaterial order to rise again and
live forever, it is.
It is a promise that the bestis yet to come, that this life is
not all that there is, thatthe best is yet to come, that your
hardest and worst days do nothave the final say, that this inner
(05:10):
turmoil that you are stuckwith, these thorns in your flesh
that you live with, they won'tbe there forever.
And so the resurrection is just.
It gives us.
It is the fuel for all of ourhopes that things will get better.
Yeah, the most honest prayerrequest I ever got in my entire life.
(05:32):
There was this young womanafter Katrina who was coming to the
little mission outreach thatwe had on the Gulf Coast.
And one of.
One of the ways that she wasable to cope with life was meth.
Her boyfriend cooked it.
She enjoyed it.
It was a big deal.
And met Jesus while she lovedmeth and showed up at the church
(05:58):
one day.
And my buddy Curt Moore wastruly the pastor of the city.
He was the one, the parishpriest of Bay St.
Louis.
And she came in to see Kurt,and I happened to be in there, and
she said, I have a prayer request.
And she said, I just got mycheck this month.
And she said, and I need youto pray that I won't buy meth with
(06:22):
it, but I want to pray that Iwon't want to.
And he said to her, One day,someday, you will not want to.
And he said, and that day iscoming, and Jesus has purchased it,
the down payment.
It is coming.
That you will not want to sin.
I mean, can you even.
(06:43):
I can't even imagine.
I can't fathom the thought ofnot wanting to sin.
What will our lives be without it?
We've never known life withoutit, apparently.
Dancing trees.
Like.
Somebody told me recently thatthe definition of a perfect marriage
is boring.
You know, it's like, what islife without sin?
(07:03):
It.
My favorite quote about theResurrection comes from a historian
at the University of Chicago,Church history.
And he said, kind of echoingPaul in 1 Corinthians 15, if Christ
is not risen, then nothingelse matters.
(07:24):
Our faith doesn't matter.
Life doesn't matter.
Live any way that you want.
Become a nihilist.
It doesn't matter.
Fatalism, Nothing matters.
And everything we're doing isa lie.
If.
If Jesus is not risen, thennothing else matters.
Second part of the quote.
If Jesus is risen, thennothing else matters.
(07:49):
And what he was saying was, asyou both alluded to, a thousand freaking
years from now, whatdifference does the failure in my
life that took place years agoeven matter?
Right.
It doesn't matter at all.
Because even though there arevictims who are in my path for that,
(08:13):
all of that will be reconciledin a way that I can't even get my
mind around.
Right?
Right.
And when I.
When I was thinking about thisand writing some things out, I said,
I would like to live 1000years from now where I go sit down
beside somebody.
They have no knowledge of meor what I've done.
(08:34):
I'm completely anonymous, andno one could imagine me ever, ever
having done anything like Idid to hurt the people that I did.
There's just no knowledge ofit at all.
As far as they know, he's thisperfect gentleman.
The resurrection, in the hopethat you're describing, the first
(08:54):
fruits of Christ, is thecapacity to fast forward to a place
where it's inconsequential.
It doesn't exist.
It's not there anymore becauseit's been paid for on the cross.
And we're the first time Iever heard a pastor say this.
He said he was talking to awoman who had cancer, and he had.
(09:18):
Had cancer himself.
So he was legitimate to ask this.
He goes, let me ask you a question.
350 years from now in yourlife, what does cancer matter if
you know Christ?
And she went, you're exactlyright, and just walked off.
That's the power of the resurrection.
I think the challenge for usis that we only circle back to it
(09:41):
once a year, but reallywithout it.
Nothing else that we've saidabout grace or justification or any
of those things that we offerpeople matter at all.
If Christ is not risen,nothing else matters.
If he is risen, nothing else matters.
I mean, it was brilliant.
I'm going to try to sidebar.
Guess who this historian wasat the University of Chicago.
(10:04):
And you just, yay or nay?
I'm going to see if I knowthis Martin Marty Pelican.
Usually I know.
Usually if the listeners don't.
I mean, they were separated atbirth, musically.
Movies.
I'm the oddball here.
(10:24):
If he's not risen, well,nothing else matters if he is risen,
quite frankly.
Let me say something, though.
In a very practical sense forour listeners, there's that struggle
where people struggle over andover again with the same things,
the same struggles, the samepains, the same weaknesses, the same
proclivities.
And inevitably the questioncomes to us, will I ever get better?
(10:47):
Right.
And the answer is, yes, it is.
Yeah.
But your question might have apresupposition that's wrong.
You'll actually never getbetter than you are right now in
Christ.
That's right.
Because.
Because there is someone whosits next to Byron today and says,
what failure?
What sin?
And it's the Father.
(11:08):
Yeah.
I mean, like, you will neverget better than you are in Jesus.
It just occurred to me thatthe problem with Moralist is that
their timing is off.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
It's not here.
Right.
It's.
It's there.
Yeah, yeah.
Their timings off.
That's.
That's where.
Wow, that is profound.
That simple line that Jesusgives in the series the Chosen, which
(11:30):
is the most powerful scene ofthe series.
I haven't seen all of them,but I saw this scene where he looks
at one of his lame, physicallydisabled disciples who is troubled
by the fact that he sees Jesushealing all of these people.
Why hasn't he healed him?
And he comes to him heartbroken.
(11:52):
This disciple comes to himheartbroken, confused, like, I love
you and I know you love me.
You've made that very clear.
But you're sending me out toheal people and look at me.
And Jesus says some verycomforting words to him and then
begins to walk away.
And as the guy's turning towalk away from Jesus also, so now
(12:14):
they're going in different directions.
Jesus turns around, he says,by the way, James, you will be healed.
It's only a matter of time.
And I was just like, oh, mygosh, that is so true for all of
us.
You will be healed.
It's only a matter of time.
And the resurrectionguarantees that.
(12:38):
God's stamp of guarantee is onthat promise.
It's powerful.
Guys.
Again.
I came to Christ.
It was so cool.
Happy Easter.
Yeah, we need to discuss thismore often.
So powerful.
Thank you guys.
You've been listening to themisfit preachers.
(13:00):
Like subscribe and share moregrace centered resources@prodigalpodcasts.com
that's prodigal P R O D I G AL podcasts with an S Com.
You're listening to the misfitpreachers talian Chavigian, Jean
LaRue, and Byron Yan from ProdigalPodcast.com.
we're plagiarizing Jesus onepodcast at a time.
Now here are the misfits.
All right, guys, so I haveloved this discussion.
(00:22):
I came to believe in Christ inepisode one of this and episode two,
and I'm sure it'll be the case here.
I've placed my faith in him.
Again, thank you for justextolling the virtues of the supper.
Christ as the lamb, the cross,Christ as the atoning sacrifice for
Byron.
For me, let's talk about theresurrection, which is really the
(00:45):
culmination of all theseevents on Easter Sunday, what we
celebrate, Resurrection Sunday.
Jesus coming forth from the grave.
Fundamental question, why doesit matter?
Why does the resurrectionmatter at all?
Which is a giant softballmachine over there being hit to you.
(01:08):
Oh, gosh.
There's so many things youcould say.
The divine validation ofeverything we said about the perfection
of Jesus was his being raisedfrom the dead.
If you start with the penalty,that the penalty for human treachery
was death, and then you have aperfect human who is the sacrifice
(01:33):
for that treachery, and hesuffers the death that we deserved.
And yet three days later, thestone rolls away and he walks out
of the grave.
You know what that means?
It was real.
It was real.
Mohammed did not walk out ofthe grave.
Confucius did not walk out ofthe grave.
(01:55):
No one else walked out of thegrave, but this God.
Man took on flesh, paid thepenalty and walked out of the grave
and ate food and touchedpeople and touched lives.
And what that means is, isthat you can bank on it.
If you are hidden in him, youwill die, but not forever.
(02:17):
That's right.
Yeah.
The first fruits of a harvestthat is to come.
Yeah.
I mean, you're right.
There are a lot of guys outthere that had a lot of knowledge
about God that I could haveplaced my faith in, but they're dead.
They're dead.
They're dead.
Why place your faith in aperson that tells you he can conquer
death, but death conquered him.
(02:38):
Yeah.
The high priest walks out ofthe holy of holies and the sacrifice
is accepted.
Yeah.
Your thoughts?
Yeah.
I mean, the simplest way forme to put it, since my spiritual
giftedness is sloganeering, is.
Is that the.
The resurrection is the Father's.
(02:59):
Amen to the sons.
It is finished on the cross.
That's what it is.
Divine validation.
Amazing phrase.
Absolutely true.
And then, of course, if youWant to tease it out even further?
You recognize when Pauldescribes the resurrection of Jesus
as the first fruits.
Well, what does that mean?
(03:20):
It means that Jesus was thefirst bit of material order to rise
from the dead forever and thatthe rest will follow.
Those who are in the entirecosmic order.
Is, as Paul describes inRomans, chapter eight is.
(03:42):
I mean, is groaning forrenewal like the pains of childbirth.
And if you've ever been in theroom when any of your children were
born, I was for all three of mine.
And each painful contractiontheir mother had was the promise
that new life was on the way.
(04:03):
So the resurrection setsthings right for eternity, and it
infuses us with a tremendousamount of hope that the best is yet
to come.
And it's not just that I'mgoing to go to heaven when I die
and sit on a cloud as somedisembodied spirit.
(04:24):
The way the Bible describes itis concrete.
It's.
It's physical.
You know, in Revelation, John,in some different ways, kind of describes,
like, colors he's never seenand trees that speak and dance and
all of this stuff, and youjust go, none of that's possible
(04:45):
without the resurrection.
If.
If Jesus was the first bit ofmaterial order to rise again and
live forever, it is.
It is a promise that the bestis yet to come, that this life is
not all that there is, thatthe best is yet to come, that your
hardest and worst days do nothave the final say, that this inner
(05:10):
turmoil that you are stuckwith, these thorns in your flesh
that you live with, they won'tbe there forever.
And so the resurrection is just.
It gives us.
It is the fuel for all of ourhopes that things will get better.
Yeah, the most honest prayerrequest I ever got in my entire life.
(05:32):
There was this young womanafter Katrina who was coming to the
little mission outreach thatwe had on the Gulf Coast.
And one of.
One of the ways that she wasable to cope with life was meth.
Her boyfriend cooked it.
She enjoyed it.
It was a big deal.
And met Jesus while she lovedmeth and showed up at the church
(05:58):
one day.
And my buddy Curt Moore wastruly the pastor of the city.
He was the one, the parishpriest of Bay St.
Louis.
And she came in to see Kurt,and I happened to be in there, and
she said, I have a prayer request.
And she said, I just got mycheck this month.
And she said, and I need youto pray that I won't buy meth with
(06:22):
it, but I want to pray that Iwon't want to.
And he said to her, One day,someday, you will not want to.
And he said, and that day iscoming, and Jesus has purchased it,
the down payment.
It is coming.
That you will not want to sin.
I mean, can you even.
(06:43):
I can't even imagine.
I can't fathom the thought ofnot wanting to sin.
What will our lives be without it?
We've never known life withoutit, apparently.
Dancing trees.
Like.
Somebody told me recently thatthe definition of a perfect marriage
is boring.
You know, it's like, what islife without sin?
(07:03):
It.
My favorite quote about theResurrection comes from a historian
at the University of Chicago,Church history.
And he said, kind of echoingPaul in 1 Corinthians 15, if Christ
is not risen, then nothingelse matters.
(07:24):
Our faith doesn't matter.
Life doesn't matter.
Live any way that you want.
Become a nihilist.
It doesn't matter.
Fatalism, Nothing matters.
And everything we're doing isa lie.
If.
If Jesus is not risen, thennothing else matters.
Second part of the quote.
If Jesus is risen, thennothing else matters.
(07:49):
And what he was saying was, asyou both alluded to, a thousand freaking
years from now, whatdifference does the failure in my
life that took place years agoeven matter?
Right.
It doesn't matter at all.
Because even though there arevictims who are in my path for that,
(08:13):
all of that will be reconciledin a way that I can't even get my
mind around.
Right?
Right.
And when I.
When I was thinking about thisand writing some things out, I said,
I would like to live 1000years from now where I go sit down
beside somebody.
They have no knowledge of meor what I've done.
(08:34):
I'm completely anonymous, andno one could imagine me ever, ever
having done anything like Idid to hurt the people that I did.
There's just no knowledge ofit at all.
As far as they know, he's thisperfect gentleman.
The resurrection, in the hopethat you're describing, the first
(08:54):
fruits of Christ, is thecapacity to fast forward to a place
where it's inconsequential.
It doesn't exist.
It's not there anymore becauseit's been paid for on the cross.
And we're the first time Iever heard a pastor say this.
He said he was talking to awoman who had cancer, and he had.
(09:18):
Had cancer himself.
So he was legitimate to ask this.
He goes, let me ask you a question.
350 years from now in yourlife, what does cancer matter if
you know Christ?
And she went, you're exactlyright, and just walked off.
That's the power of the resurrection.
I think the challenge for usis that we only circle back to it
(09:41):
once a year, but reallywithout it.
Nothing else that we've saidabout grace or justification or any
of those things that we offerpeople matter at all.
If Christ is not risen,nothing else matters.
If he is risen, nothing else matters.
I mean, it was brilliant.
I'm going to try to sidebar.
Guess who this historian wasat the University of Chicago.
(10:04):
And you just, yay or nay?
I'm going to see if I knowthis Martin Marty Pelican.
Usually I know.
Usually if the listeners don't.
I mean, they were separated atbirth, musically.
Movies.
I'm the oddball here.
(10:24):
If he's not risen, well,nothing else matters if he is risen,
quite frankly.
Let me say something, though.
In a very practical sense forour listeners, there's that struggle
where people struggle over andover again with the same things,
the same struggles, the samepains, the same weaknesses, the same
proclivities.
And inevitably the questioncomes to us, will I ever get better?
(10:47):
Right.
And the answer is, yes, it is.
Yeah.
But your question might have apresupposition that's wrong.
You'll actually never getbetter than you are right now in
Christ.
That's right.
Because.
Because there is someone whosits next to Byron today and says,
what failure?
What sin?
And it's the Father.
(11:08):
Yeah.
I mean, like, you will neverget better than you are in Jesus.
It just occurred to me thatthe problem with Moralist is that
their timing is off.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
It's not here.
Right.
It's.
It's there.
Yeah, yeah.
Their timings off.
That's.
That's where.
Wow, that is profound.
That simple line that Jesusgives in the series the Chosen, which
(11:30):
is the most powerful scene ofthe series.
I haven't seen all of them,but I saw this scene where he looks
at one of his lame, physicallydisabled disciples who is troubled
by the fact that he sees Jesushealing all of these people.
Why hasn't he healed him?
And he comes to him heartbroken.
(11:52):
This disciple comes to himheartbroken, confused, like, I love
you and I know you love me.
You've made that very clear.
But you're sending me out toheal people and look at me.
And Jesus says some verycomforting words to him and then
begins to walk away.
And as the guy's turning towalk away from Jesus also, so now
(12:14):
they're going in different directions.
Jesus turns around, he says,by the way, James, you will be healed.
It's only a matter of time.
And I was just like, oh, mygosh, that is so true for all of
us.
You will be healed.
It's only a matter of time.
And the resurrectionguarantees that.
(12:38):
God's stamp of guarantee is onthat promise.
It's powerful.
Guys.
Again.
I came to Christ.
It was so cool.
Happy Easter.
Yeah, we need to discuss thismore often.
So powerful.
Thank you guys.
You've been listening to themisfit preachers.
(13:00):
Like subscribe and share moregrace centered resources@prodigalpodcasts.com
that's prodigal P R O D I G AL podcasts with an S Com.
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