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Welcome to Missing in Hashtown Season one, Chapter nine titled Suspicious. Now,
I want to invite everyone to open the folder I
placed before them titled suspicious, and if you'll kindly turn
your attention to the first item, concrete pads, then we
can begin. Cindy Benton, Joe Benton, Joey Benton, Jennifer Wicks,
(02:14):
and Adriana Wicks all lived in the brick ranch down
home on the Benton property on March twenty fourth, two
thousand and four. On March twenty fifth, two thousand and four,
Cindy Benton, Joe Benton, and Joey Benton were the only
three remaining in that home at the time. Jennifer Wicks
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and Adriana Wicks would never be heard from again. Shortly
after the girls went missing, a concrete slab was poured
next to the home on the Benton property. We're going
(03:12):
to dive into this a little bit deeper. This is
missing in Hutchtown Season one, chapter nine.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Here's TC Collins, who helped build this home in two
thousand and four, just one month after the girls went missing.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You know, I helped them build their house. That's another thing.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know. The rumors are about, oh, they're buried in
the concrete or under the floor, this or that. I
pulled up when Joey was mixing bag cement in a
mixture and pouring the foundation around the house. And so
I know for a fact that there's about seventy feet
right there that ain't got anything in it. It's like
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three feet it's three by three. It's a like a
it's a you know, it's a it's the shape of
the house. It's a rectangle, but it's a three by
three foundation.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Saw the concrete is that typical for what they needed
it for?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
It it's not. But there's not anything typical and what
they needed it for.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Well, they overhauled every single thing that that I say
they but me and Joey built it, and Big Joe
but he manly just you know, drugged logs with tractor.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
But they got a.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Portable saw meal and cut their own timber and dried
it and then we built the house. But they went
overhauled on everything they wanted. The house stand four hundred years,
is what Big Joe said. So everything, not just the concrete,
everything's overhaul.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
They have still, you know, the storage rack beams that
they have in like lows and on depot.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Those things are rated for like four thousand pounds, but
if they're rated for four thousand thousand pounds, they hold eight.
So they use that to make their floor and then
put what over top of it, and uh, you could
drive a Sherman tank on it, you know, and and
all the bit the timbers are all two by two timbers,
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you know, and uh, you know up to twenty foot long.
I mean, they had some nice timber on their property
and they used it so everything's big. They wanted it
to look like outdoor world.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
That's what that's the scheme they were going for.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The only thing that was weird to me is how
much foundation was poured with with bag crete, because that
would kill a man. After knowing what I know now
about concrete. I have no idea why the man I
mean I do.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
I guess it had to do.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
With price, but it's a lot cheaper, but it's because
you got to mix it bag by bag and it was.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
A lot of work. I remember when he was doing it.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
That's one part I got out of, you know. I
pulled up he was doing and I was like, well,
you're visiting them, we'll go. I hoped him build everything else.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
So I didn't want none of that. It was an
awful looking he was sweating a disc.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
But so the rumors about the girls remains beaten in
the concrete up.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
I don't believe if.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I mean, if they were, it would just makes everything
I'm saying is speculation, you know, just like everybody else's.
I don't have any more valuable and opinion than anybody else.
But as a concrete man, it doesn't make sense to
put them inside of the form in the concrete. It
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would make more sense to put them underneath the concrete
where it's not gonna be x ray.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Is it suspicious that a concrete pad was poured very
soon on the bent And property after the girls disappeared? Okay,
I can see it argued both ways. One, it's just
coincidental timing. Is there evidence that this structure was planned
before April of two thousand and four when construction began.
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This could give credibility to the Bentons. They could say, hey, look,
we have purchase orders of concrete and other materials from
before the girls went missing. We have receipts to show
you that this was a plan in motion or two
was it purposeful? The added factor that the Benton family
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never joined in any searches along with the construction of
this overly poured concrete slab. Now recall, the amount of
concrete used was said to be astronomical, and they hand
poured it all. They hand mixed all of it. Now
we do know that saves quite a bit of money,
but still why so much overkill on the concrete. I
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was able to find that the typical depth of a
concrete foundation for a house, let alone a barn is
six inches maximum for this barn or later house. Is
it possible that the construction of this house was a
project to distress the Benton family from everything going on
in the background. I'm not insinuating they are guilty of
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anything in the situation except avoiding facing rumors, accusations, and speculation.
Was this a busy body project while they navigated through
Hashtam's rumor mill about them? Or are the girls' remains
under that concrete slab under that house?
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Was this building of her searched?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Well?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
According to Casey's recollection, the columns were searched by law enforcement.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Let's listen to what was done in the past. Casey,
Buddy and myself sat down to talk. Now, law enforcement
has told me.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
In the last couple of years, they've told me not
that's when the search, because I don't know when exactly
this search was done. Buddy and I were trying to
figure that out, but they told me that they did
bring out GPR equipment and search the columns underneath the
new cabin that was built certain foundations and this particular
how there's the footings or whatever, the concrete footings and
(09:04):
then there's like big three x three like cinderblock concrete
columns under there. So to my knowledge, that is what
they search air quotes, because I can't confirm that when
they went out there.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Each anniversary, the Wicks family and friends do something in
remembrance of Jennifer and Adriana. Kathy's late husband Larry started
a bike ride he called Chain of Hope. It garnered
a lot of support over the years, with the family
leading a caravan of both motorcycles and cars through cross
planes down the side roads and in front of the
Benton home. Each Chain of Hope, Jennifer's sister Casey pulls
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out her sister's folder of CDs. This is one of
the few items that Joey dropped off in trash bags
at Kathy's house.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
In fact, I remember he returned her things in large
black garbage bags, and most of the stuff that was
in those garbage bags didn't b to Jennifer or Adriana.
Speaker 11 (10:03):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Most of it was trash and other people's clothing, And
it was as if they had just scooped stuff up
off of a nasty floor and thrown it in these
trash bags and brought it over to my house. And
whatever was in there that was Jennifer's was Jennifer's, and
whatever was in there with somebody else with somebody else's.
(10:25):
But I can remember going through every one of those
trash bags.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I had this large.
Speaker 10 (10:31):
Sunroom at my house, and I emptied them all out
on the floor in the sunroom and just started going
through every little piece and collecting hairs off of stuffed
animals and stuff and putting it in baggies, and of
course the toot presses and just everything like that. Turned
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all that stuff over to the police. Found a T
shirt of Jennifer's and there her favorite T shirt that
had actually belonged to her high school sweetheart, and she
used to wear it all the time, just a baggy
o T shirt, but it was her favorite short all
the time. And I found it and it was ripped
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from the top of the shoulder on the sleeve all
the way down, the back ripped off, and it had
some stains on it, and of course I turned I
bagged that up, turned that into him.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Found that alarming.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
And I remember just I remember my husband found me
out there in the middle of the night, just laying
in the middle of their stuff, just sobbing. But I
just wanted to smell them, you know. I just wanted
to be close to him, as close as I could,
and that was as close as I could be.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Casey plays her sister's music. She turns it up and
rifts through her memories what she can remember, the ones
PTSD hasn't robbed her of, and her mind continues to
spend with questions of am I doing enough? Where are
you guide me to you, Jennifer?
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Or what do I do next.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's the one time of year that Casey will take
the CDs out of the cases, ever so carefully as
she is with all of the items that Jennifer left
behind for them, and the family has vigils. One vigil
in particular, was devastating and contentious. All let friends and
family tell the story. Here's Shawne's Jennifer's childhood best friend.
Speaker 12 (12:37):
We used to release bloons next to the cemetery we
used to gather. It was great. They were so big.
The community came out and was so supportive. In the beginning,
some of our high school friends came and they were big,
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and then I guess when Larry came and he started
to chaying to hope, they just grew. They've been out
there for so long. But then it seemed like in
the beginning and then it just seemed like it dropped quick,
quicker than it should have. I'm thrilled that we are
opening it back up, and I'm hoping that we're closer
now than we've ever been, because it's twenty years.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
That's so long, you are, it's so long. Closer than
it's ever been. There is hope there. And here's Heather,
Jennifer's sister.
Speaker 13 (13:36):
Well, that was kind of that was scary the day
that we finished out there with one of our I
can't remember if we had started doing rides at that
point or not, I don't know, but we were out
there and all of a sudden there were like multiple
gunshots that kind of going off, and it was absolutely
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terrifying because I had my children there.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
And clearly you're messing with a family.
Speaker 14 (14:04):
Who is you know.
Speaker 13 (14:07):
I'd like to say possible for your sister niece's disappearance,
but I don't. I don't like to say that. I
like to say, one hundred percent, because that's just how
how sure I am with inside me. But that's absolutely terrifying,
Like to hear a bunch of gunshots going off, You're like,
who's next, Like, get my own babies out of here
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before something happens to one of them, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
It was pretty scary.
Speaker 13 (14:36):
And then the way they came over to the fence
and they just seemed like there was no empathy and
no sadness.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Who is who is?
Speaker 13 (14:48):
It was Joey Benton and joe Bitton his father, and
they came over to the fence together and they were
basically laughing because everyone was scared and and they had
like smirks on their faces.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
There there was no.
Speaker 13 (15:07):
Just I guess the best word to use is empathy
for watching this family, you know, go through what they're
going through, and there was absolutely zero support from them
at all.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
You never saw a Benton at any of the vigils,
no or at any of the searches.
Speaker 15 (15:27):
Nope.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Has Joey Benton ever reached out to you in the
last twenty years. Absolutely not anybody from the.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Family, nobody.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
And here's Joel then Jennifer's friend.
Speaker 15 (15:39):
So I remember we used to have the vigils at
the church across the street from the Venn home. And
one year specifically, I remember we you know, we got
our billions together, we accept our prayers, and we were
going to walk by the Benton home and you know,
make it even more known that we're there obviously, and
they did. They went out on the property and shot
their guns and the air, and we're really trying to
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intimidate us, like like we shouldn't be there.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Did you see them?
Speaker 15 (16:06):
But you they didn't come out on the porch that
as far as I could tell, but you could hear.
I mean, you obviously knew where it was coming from.
And I know another year, I don't remember it was
the same year or if it was a different year.
I think it was a year before that baby, where
Joey actually drove by in his car when we were
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doing our thing, Like we saw him back out of
the driveway and drive right past us as we're there,
you know, so just to escape the situation.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
To not have to deal with it.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
You guys were in that uh Owinch Chapel graveyard right
next to their.
Speaker 15 (16:39):
Yeah, we were walking right in front of their house. Yeah,
so he pulled out, just left. It wasn't gonna he
wasn't gonna be a part of And that's that to me.
Like the way that that family has handled this speaks
volumes to me.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
If you.
Speaker 15 (16:57):
Have nothing to do with it, why are you so
secretive and so sheltered and so defensive. If someone went
missing at my house and I know I had nothing
to do with it and that was the last place
they were seeing, please tear this place apart for that
family and to clear my name. But that's not happened
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with them at all, And I think that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
We'll be right back.
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report by the Robertson County Sheriff's Office so Officer C.
Fry on March third, two thousand and eight. So again,
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this would be the four year anniversary of the girls disappearance.
Says this quote. Responding officer was dispatched to the complaintant's
residents in reference to a disturbance. On arrival, responding officer
was advised by the complaintant, Amy Meyer, that there were
people next door at the Owens Chapel Cemetery for Jennifer
and Adriana Wicks remembrance service. Amy advised that earlier she
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had heard one or two gunshots that came from the
side of the house where the cemetery is located. Amy
then called her brother, Joey Bent, into the residence. Amy
advised that when Joey was at the residence, he went
to the fence line separating the yard in the cemetery
and was yelled at by one female in the crowd
that quote she was going to get him one way
or another end quote. Joey advised responding officer that he
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did not know the female's name, but he believed it
was possibly Jennifer Wicks's grandmother. Joey also advised that several
TV news cameras were present when this incident occurred. Joey
advised responding officer that he was in fear for his
life because of these statements. After advising responding Officer this,
Joey walked away and went back to the fence row
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where the female he was in fear for his life
of was located, and continued to talk to the news cameras.
Responding officer did request that Joey, Amy, and their family
attempt to stay inside the residence or at least away
from the fence while the service was bue held. All
parties refuse this, stating that it was their property and
they would go anywhere they wanted to go.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Before leaving.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Responding officer was also advised by the Bentons that the
gunshots came from the opposite side of the property, in
the woods behind the house, not on the side were
the cemeteries located, as was originally stated. While trying to
talk to Joey and his father, Joe Benton, both parties
became agitated and started to argue with responding officer, at
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which point responding officer advised he was not going to
argue with them and left the residents. Responding officer advised
Amy and Joey of how to obtain a copy of
this report and of warrant procedures. Okay, Now, we have
a written statement from Kathy to the Robertson County Sheriff's Office.
It's on file with them. I have a copy of it,
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and this is about the same incident. And I am
going to read that for you now. So per Kathy's handwriting,
here we go. On three thirty eight, family friends and
supporters gathered at Owen's Chapel Cemetery to hold a memorial
vigil marking the fourth year since my daughter and granddaughter,
Jennifer and Adriana Wicks, vanished from the home that is
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next to the cemetery, belonging to Joseph F.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Benton.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
As we walked from the church to the cemetery, we
witnessed Joey Benton jumped the friends from the cemetery to
his yard. As I was speaking to the guests totally
in approximately seventy five people, gunshots too sounded from behind
the Benton house. Everyone immediately turned toward the sound of
the gunfire, including the news cameras, and people seek shelter
with their children behind vehicles. I continued to talk to
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the crowd while joe and Joey Benton approached the fence
line and began to try to incite and intimidate members
of my family. A peaceful memorial for my children was
ruined by the desire to intimidate and frighten their family
and friends. There was at least one witness in the
crowd that seen the second shot fired.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
His name is Robert Jones.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
This site is where my childre from were last seen
and the only place where we can take flowers in
their memory, and it was ruined and disrespected by Joe
and Joey Benton's actions.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Witnesses to follow Kathy Casey Holloway.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Here's an article about it from The Tennessee Inn by
reporter Jim Bellis. In two thousand and eight, tombstones defaced
with Justice for Jen day after gunshots disrupt vigil. Monday,
a day after gunfire interrupted a vigil and remember to
Jennifer Wicks and her daughter Adriana, Robertson County Sheriff's deputies
were called out again when three tombstones and the Owens
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Chapel cemetery were painted to read Justice for Jen. The
two girls have been missing since March of two thousand
and four. The vigil held for the third year at
Owens Chapel United Methodist Church was reportedly attended by upwards
of fifty people. During a speech by Kathy Holloway, Jennifer's mother,
two shots were heard. This occurred while the vigil participants
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were in a cemetery adjacent to property owned by the
Benton family. Denton Junior was Jennifer's former boyfriend and last
known contact. Robertson County Sheriff's Deputies were called and investigated
the incident. According to their report, they concluded the shots
originated from property owned by the Benton family, but were
unable to determine who fired them. Halloway and Peggy Calvert,
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Wicks's grandmother, have long speculated that the Benton family knows
more about the missing too than they have revealed.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
We just don't know what else we can do, Joe Benton,
Senior said.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
We've done everything we could for a year to try
to help find Jennifer.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Hey, we just don't know where Jennifer ing was.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
He describes as searches, tests, investigations they submitted to quote,
We've let the TBI search, that the Sheriff's departments search,
that the CSI has come out and looked at everything
out there. End quote, said Carol Benton, Joe Senior's mother.
They brought stuff out that would find a body in
concrete and let we let them do all that. Mother
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and daughter have not been seen since March twenty fourth,
two thousand and four, when they were first supported missing
by their family. Since then, the police have continued to
follow all leads in two day nothing have surface to
indicate the whereabouts of the two. Holloway said their family
continues to miss them and pray for closure for this tragedy. Grief, anger, desperation,
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it all plays a part in this journey and sometimes
it makes you do things you want it't typically do.
But of course, since I cannot get through to the
Benton three, Cynthy, Joey or Joe, I cannot ask them
directly about this. Did you guys spray this and try
to pin it on the Wick's family make them look bad?
But you know this did stand out to me Jen
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jay e Nn It was spelled with two ends Jen.
I asked the family what Jennifer's nickname was, and they
told me she called herself Jen mostly with two ends.
Who close to her called her Jen was it just
shortened because her full name wouldn't fit on the tombstone,
and Jen with one end would have been easier.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
I'm led to believe was it.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Somebody who knew her well and intimate. The article brings
up a great point. The Bentons have always said they
took light detector tests and passed. That they've always been
fully cooperative and have done everything asked of them, which
by now we know is untrue. Joe Benton called on
that initial search mister Edwards was trying to do. He
tried to get in between Buddy's search and his own father.
(26:23):
So when it comes to lie detector tests, we have
to wonder what the truth is. There's no confirmation in
whether Cindy Benton ever took a lie detector test. And
listen to Casey and Buddy, the PI discussed Joey and
the light detector test.
Speaker 17 (26:36):
Schurch Department and the original when this happened. A couple
of weeks later after it happened, asked Joey to take
a polygraph test, which it's actually avorce.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Test polograph kind of, and.
Speaker 17 (26:53):
He told people on topic and other places that I've
talked to of the witnesses that he took the test
and passed it, And that's not a true statement because
the person that came up from Metro to Springfield to
do the test works for me as a license private investigator,
and he said that once he read him the instruction,
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he stood up and laughed.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
And walked out the room.
Speaker 17 (27:19):
So, yeah, like you got to be made some kind
of statement. He doesn't remember that statement, but like, you know,
just kind of brushed it off and walked out of
the room.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, No, that's Joey.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Joey. I'm sorry, Joey.
Speaker 18 (27:33):
Yeah, Joey.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Joe was actually there that day. Yeah, and they had
him in a separate room in the sheriff's office, and
from what I believe y'all told me that joe started
like making a ruckus about something started like getting loud
in the other room, and Joey heard him kind of
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doing that, and then he got up and walked out.
But he Joey did take his original polygraph tests, which
is where it's like the one that everyone knows and
sees like on movies and whatnot. You know, like you
hook him up and you know it's not based on
your voice. I guess it's based on your heart rate.
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But he took that one in passed. But law enforcement
has told me directly that they feel like the questions
that were asked at that time were probably not the
right questions, that they were asked in a way that
would not really give us any results.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
That is Joe that that past, Joey, Joey Okay, Joey.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Yeah, Joey's the only one who's taken polygraph that's correct.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Joe Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
To our knowledge, Joe and Cindy have not ever and
I think that they had Cindy lined up to take one,
and I don't believe that she ever did, just with
things that I've read in the old topics form, how.
Speaker 14 (29:00):
Did Joey was he? Was it a court ordered won
or volunteer?
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Volunteer? You can't.
Speaker 17 (29:07):
You can't court order it because it can be used
in court. A lot of times detective views it just
to see if they need to put a lot of
effort into it or not.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It's not admissible at all.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
No, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
We'll be right back.
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Speaker 9 (31:28):
Yeah, and I mean I've heard all kinds of things,
like people can pass those. Yes, that's why they're not admissible,
is people can pass them even if they aren't telling
the truth. So I wonder what caused them to walk
out that day.
Speaker 17 (31:44):
Well, if you go and like you cooperate and then
you lead, then you can tell people, hey, I passed
it because the only people in is Joy and the
TAK examiner.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah. So and that's what he did. Hey, I passed.
Speaker 14 (32:02):
No chance, he took another one and passed.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
To my knowledge, no, not that we know.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I've known.
Speaker 17 (32:10):
They did not have a technique a person that gives
this type of test. That's raight. Metro was called in.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
Yeah, at Rogerson County. They don't have a lot of
the resources, like I've even been told, like they don't
have dogs like scent dogs could have or dogs. They
have to pull those in from like Tennessee Highway Patrol
and Metro and like pool from other agencies. So they
have told me that so this was pulled in from
Metro and the guy works for Buddy in private investigations have.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
For several years, and he's like, no, he did not
take that. He walked out full disclosure.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I started the season by sharing that I'm currently behind
the scenes on many developments in this case. There have
been searches, both law enforcement headed and family headed that
have occurred since March twenty seventh. For now, I say
this because I've been rolling my camera and the microphone
has been on the entire time, and I will take
you through it once we can. I've personally taken an
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axe to cut away roots to search for Jennifer and
Adriana's remains. I've taken sharp shovels and pounded them into
the deep layer of the Tennessee mud, into the deep
layer of the clay.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Based off of leads we've been given.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
I watched this family frantically search for the girls, not
as if they're finding bones and maybe articles of clothing,
but as if the girls went missing yesterday, as if
they could still save the girls. And although we're saving
what we've been doing in the efforts of the search
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for the sequel to this podcast, I will share a
few clips from some of our searches just to give
you an idea of how devastating this journey has been
and how it continues to be devastating for a family
who refuses to give up.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
I don't know what they're waiting on. I mean in
that in that when I just zoomed dinner in your video,
like you would go on like this, just like wait
for what you know?
Speaker 18 (34:08):
M hmm, like for what I hope.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
I hope they thought them like that's what I hope
they got.
Speaker 14 (34:19):
Casey, they would not.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Be here to day.
Speaker 18 (34:23):
You don't think so, I know.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
They would not waste Let's just drive past there and
find like another spot that one wants to go back
and forth that's not.
Speaker 14 (34:33):
Too far and where just out for a country drive.
I live down here, this's my neighborhood supt. I'm gonna
be like this on the way by its way. You're
allowed to. It's the world, it's the world. I will
always rationalize your choices.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
I have a little bit of relief of like it
was getting towards the end of the day and I
was like, there's nothing for Mede.
Speaker 14 (34:55):
The right choice, This was the right choice. Intuition is
a a great thing for you.
Speaker 18 (35:01):
They hate you so much. I know they don't hate you.
Speaker 19 (35:04):
If they had and we see sister and daughter, their
asses would go broke. You're not interfering, in my opinion,
we're not going to public, we're not talking.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Just drive on a little bit more. And I find like,
a no, don't go down there and go down Hey,
there's no orange jumpsuit. It's like a dude wearing like
an orange red shirt. I'll dare him wear the same
color the tailors wear.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
In Nates.
Speaker 16 (35:42):
Yeah, m.
Speaker 18 (35:50):
He wouldn't be standing there, you know what.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
I bet they're I bet they're already back there because
I was telling Jewels, I was like, there, he's standing there,
like swinging his arms.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Like doing the thing.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
Like he's like just swinging his arms like he's bored,
you know, waiting on something. And I bet like they're
either they're probably waiting on transport for Joe to come
out here, either that or I don't know what they're
waiting on, but they're waiting on something because they hadn't
got the ATV's down or the whatevers out of the trailers,
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or they're already back there. And then these people are
like the like the okay, yeah we found something, y'all
come back here and just like.
Speaker 11 (36:35):
A few of them went back there with him, and
these people are waiting. I want to know where they
were digging.
Speaker 14 (36:48):
Get that drove up there?
Speaker 18 (36:50):
What spot sit? They're coking back?
Speaker 14 (36:56):
Is that what you said? Maybe tomorrow go back and.
Speaker 18 (37:00):
Shake one more interesting?
Speaker 14 (37:02):
Because there was no equipment, That's why I like hand
up rather.
Speaker 19 (37:09):
Your devices were able to fit in the toolbox on
you four by four.
Speaker 14 (37:14):
That makes me really concerned about.
Speaker 18 (37:21):
What did he say when you asked about Joe Casey?
They had They don't have anything with him.
Speaker 14 (37:27):
You should text them just so on record. They don't
find the bodies, they don't have a deal. Just song
record and ask if they head bocks. We're talking twenty
years in sentiment build up. Just even assume did the
cadaver dogs hit on any spots?
Speaker 18 (37:49):
Today?
Speaker 14 (37:50):
They're still coming back and I want to screw it up.
If to go back out there, I think you'd have
to wait another when they're done, you know, because then
it might be interfering.
Speaker 18 (38:05):
Well okay, okay, that's a day.
Speaker 14 (38:30):
Wow, Why did you not bring out cadaverdas?
Speaker 16 (38:36):
You know?
Speaker 14 (38:36):
Why did you been pick up other phones and they're everywhere?
Speaker 18 (38:39):
Or you can sit out there and say that, Okay,
you said one more possible location.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
More of the.
Speaker 14 (38:53):
Response that means Joe eats.
Speaker 18 (38:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (38:58):
And how deep? And how close to the water? And
how high is that river right now? Is it pretty
close to the water?
Speaker 18 (39:03):
Better for you guys?
Speaker 14 (39:06):
The river is pretty high after.
Speaker 18 (39:10):
It hasn't been raining.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
I think it should be documented that they were not
taking the appropriate steps. At least we know this is
the exact locations. Oh no, it's been a roller coaster
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day for any.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
There have been many days I have gone home from
a day of interviews or searches and have just cried.
And I wondered if I was the right one for
the job. Am I too sensitive? And then there's a
side of me, that tiger side that fears nothing because
my desire to find these girls so this family can
have peace supersedes any logical fear I probably should have.
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And Casey often jokingly tells me to lock it up, Jewels,
I need you to stay tough with me here and
we laugh, and she's right. It's made me tougher, but
it's not made me immune to how absolutely unreal. This
situation is things that this family deals with daily, getting
lied to, getting dead end leads, keeping shovels, boots, binoculars
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in their car in case they get called at a
moment's notice with a new location. It's not normal. It's
not normal, but to them, it's their life and they
cannot stop to feel it because if they do, they
may never get back up again. So they push on
and stay angry, and they use it as fuel to
run through cornfields, to check locations, to be on their
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hands and knees and fields.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
They use it for good.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
And we've still not found the girls, but I'll tell
you the family is the closest they've ever been, and
those responsible for taking the lives of the Wigs girls
should feel afraid. If this family finds the girls before
those responsible reveal where they are, there will be nothing
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and to our children. To follow our continued efforts on
Justice for Jennifer and Adriana Wicks, you can find us
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and you deserve to be found. Don't you forget it.
I'll see you next time.
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