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Speaker 1 (00:03):
He slat out told us, Mom, she's dead.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
She needs our help, and that's when I got the goosebumps,
and I was like, oh my gosh. He was just
in our car and he was pointing out to a
certain spot in the meadow.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
While Victoria Gorba and her family stopped for lunch, her
son Kayden began talking to someone.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
And my husband and I kind of looked at each other,
like what, and he goes.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, there's a lady over in the meadow in a
black shirt, and.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I got goosebumps. He says, she needs our help.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But she's dead and she's laying face down with her
legs up and she can't talk to me.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But she's over there. We need to go help her.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Jake and Victoria checked out the meadow but saw nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He kept saying, trust me, trust me, Mom, and I
was like, I trust you, Bud. You know, I believe
you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Spooked, the couple decided to end the trip early and
head home, and.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We put it on Facebook seeing if anybody.
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Knew anything about the area and come to find out
that there was a lady missing with the description that
he described to us was in a five mile radius
of where we were.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Sandra Hughes had gone missing in July of twenty twenty.
Cayden had described her in detail and recognized her in
three of four photos.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
He was very adamant that we needed to help her,
and he described down to blue hair.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
He said, she has a black shirt, blue jeans, and
blue hair.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
That's the exact description of her when she went missing.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Hello, friends, We recently learned of what may be one
of the strangest updates to a missing person case that
we've ever brought forth. Now, sometimes in these missing person
cases that we cover, there will be a little bit
of a paranormal or supernatural ailment. It's usually something small
and not very significant to the old case, but sometimes
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it seems that the unknown can play a larger part
in these cases, stories of UFOs, the fae, Bigfoot, rather cryptids, portals,
translucent entities, et cetera. But is it possible that the
ghost of a missing woman may be trying to help
solve her disappearance, or at least help locate her remains.
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We ask that you keep an open mind and consider
it the following case. Back in episode number seven of
our ten Unsolved National Park Disappearances series, we brought you
the story of Sandra Hughes to recap. Fifty four year
old Sandra Johnson Hughes of California was last heard from
on June twenty six, twenty twenty. Sandra had embarked on
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a solo camping trip in the Sierra south of Yosemite
to escape from the current pandemic. Sandra had recently moved
from Maui, Hawaii, to California in June of twenty twenty.
She had trained to be a park ranger in college
and was experiencing the outdoors. On July fifth of that year,
the Madera County Sheriff's Office asked for the public's help
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in locating Sandra after they found her campsite near the
Johnson's Meadow section of the forest in disarray. On that
same day, the authorities located Hughes Silver sob and Shequido
Creek to the north of the campsite. They said it
appeared to have crashed into a tree at a speed
of less than twenty miles per hour before rolling into
the ravine. Akers reported Saint Sandra on July fourth, twenty twenty,
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and said she was barefoot and had a bruise on
her face. They offered to help her, but she declined.
Medical assistance officers and volunteer search and rescue teams from
more than half a dozen other sheriff's departments, together with
dog teams, the California Highway Patrol and the Governor's Office
of Emergency Services, combed the forest on foot, while helicopters
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from California Air National Guard did an aerial search. The
search focused around the area where her car was found,
but there was no sign of Sandra. Then, on August ninth,
twenty twenty two, hunters saw a woman leaning against a
tree along Road five S zero one near Beiesolor Road.
She did not wave them down, attempt contact, or appear
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to be in any distress. Upon returning, they recognized her
from a missing persons fire and contacted park rangers. The
hunter said that she appears to be visibly thinner than
her last known photos at the time of her disappearance.
Sandra was a fifty four year old white female with blue,
shoulder lenked hair. Her natural color is brown. She has
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brown eyes, is approximately five foot three inches tall, and
weighs about one hundred and fifty pounds. A search for
Sandra was ongoing but limited. Now flashed forward to almost
exactly one year later. This strange update to the case
comes from the Madeair County Sheriff's Office in Madeir, California.
It seems that a family from nearby Course Gold, California,
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experienced a bizarre broad daylight ghost sighting in the Madeir
County Mountains on Wednesday, July twenty first, twenty twenty one.
The event was so strange and disturbing that the Madeir
County Sheriff's Office felt the need to further investigate. It
seems that a man named Jake Gorba, his wife Victoria,
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and their three children decided to take their four wheeler
up to the shut Eye Peak on that faithful Wednesday.
While on this family outing, they stopped to have something
to eat beside the trail, and that's when things started
to get strange. The couple's three year old son, Caden,
suddenly began animatedly talking to someone nearby. He was just
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in our four wheeler and he was pointing out to
a certain spot in the meadow, said his mom Victoria.
The normally reserved and somewhat quiet Caden excitedly told his
parents that they're in the meadow. By where the family
was having lunch, was a woman lying face down with
her legs straight up in the air. Furthermore stated that
the woman was unable to speak or move and needed help.
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He began pleading with his parents to help this for
a woman, He flat out told us, Mom, she's already dead,
but she needs our help. And that's when I got
the goose bumps. I was like, oh my gosh, Victoria said.
He goes, yeah, there's a lady over in the meadow
in a black shirt, blue jeans, and blue hair, and
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I got goose bumps, said Victoria. He says, she needs
our help, but she's dead and she's lying face down
with her legs up. She can't talk to me, but
she's over there. We need to go help her. So
in order to calm young Caden down, Jake and Victoria
walked over and checked out the metal but saw absolutely nothing.
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Caden continued to insist. He kept saying, trust me, trust me, Mom,
And I was like, I trust you, I trust you.
I believe you one hundred percent, said Victoria. Whatever young
Caden was experiencing so unnerved and spoke the rest of
the family that the other members of the family all
unanimously agreed time to put an early end to their
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day of adventure and make the thirty five mile drive
back home to Course Call. After arriving home, the event
still fresh in her mind, Victoria decided to post about
the weird encounter on her Facebook profile. We put it
on Facebook to see if anybody knew anything about this area,
and come to find out, there was a lady missing
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with a description that he described to us within a
five mile radius of where we were, said Victoria. Now
viewers of this channel know from our previous episode number seven,
Sandra Hughes had gone missing in that area in June
of twenty twenty. The encounter became even more chilling when,
according to Victoria, three Oldcaden's highly detailed description of the
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woman he had seen in the meadow was identical to
the description of Sandra Hughes as given by the local authorities.
He was very adamant that we needed to help her,
and he described her to blue hair. He said, she
has a black shirt, blue jeans, and blue hair. Mom.
That's the exact description of her when she went missing,
said Victoria. Then Victoria went and searched online for Sandra
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Hughes and found some photographs that have been released as
a part of the search effort a year prior. Victory
said she got goosebumps when Cayden readily recognized three of
the photos of Sandra, identifying her as the woman he
had seen in the field. As fate would have it,
Madera County Sheriff Corporal Chris Williams just happened to see
the Facebook post and found it intriguing, to say the least,
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so much so that he contacted Cayden's family to further
investigate the chilling account. Victoria said the corporal in charge
of her case actually reached out to us on Facebook
and was like, Hey, we want more information and we
want to bring you guys back up there and see
if you could point us in the right direction. Corporal
Williams has been investigating the disappears of Sandra Hughes since
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the beginning of the investigation. On the following Thursday, two
Madera County Sheriff's deputies ventured back up to the meadow
to investigate, with Jake and Caden coming along to point
them in the right direction. Unfortunately, the deputies found nothing
new By way of evidence, although the case remains open.
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If she was possibly a ghost looking for some help,
I hope that he could have at least helped and
maybe helped the family find her, because it's been a
long time apparently since she's been gone. Victoria said. The
four wheeler that Cayden and his family used while traveling
in the mountains has now been nicknamed the Ghost Runner
and incidentally, is also for sale. It's not believed that
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the spooky encounter is the reason they put the vehicle
up for sale, as the family says they will continue
to go adventuring in the Madeira Mountains, but do admit
there are a few spots now which they aren't anxious
to visit again anytime soon, if at all. Local news
reporters in the area reached out to the Madera County
Sheriff's office, who did confirm that they received the report
of a possible sighting of some sort and they did
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go out to the location to search for any additional
leads or information. For now, the case remains open and
hopes that this latest update regarding the spooking encounter may
produce some new leads. Now as strange as this new
development is It's not the first time that possibly a
ghost helped solve the missing person's case. Back on February
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twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, the TV show Unsolved Mysteries
aired a segment regarding a missing person's case from almost
three years prior. This report told the story of twenty
three year old Christine Scuubage and her three year old
son Nick. They were driving along Highway fifty in the
Sierra Nevada Mountain Range in California when they vanished without
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a trace on June sixth, nineteen ninety four. Christine was
a single mother and it recently completed parallegal training. She
had plans of going to work for a prestigious law firm,
and she helped to make enough money so that she
and her child's father could be married. Christine left her
stepparents home near Sacramento on June fifth, nineteen ninety four,
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on her way to Carson City, Nevada. After failing to
make contact with her family after three days, her stepfather,
Dave Stossenbach, reported her and her son missing on June eighth.
The police took the missing person's report, but there were
no initial leads in the case. Five days after Christine
and Nick disappeared, however, a woman named Debraah Hoyt and
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her husband were driving along the Highway fifty around three am.
The pair were on along overnight drive and had been
joking and singing in order to keep each other away.
Suddenly never saw what appeared to be a completely naked
woman lying on the side of the road. The naked
woman's face was turned toward the road and she was
laying on her side with her knees slightly bent. She
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had one arm placed beneath her head and the other
arm held over her head. The Holtz were shocked beyond belief.
They thought it must have been some sort of sick
practical joke, or perhaps he would deployed to carjack them
had they stopped. Deborah floored the accelerator instead and sped
down Highway fifty, not stopping until she arrived at the
nearest phone booth, where she proceeded to call the police.
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In just minutes, two Sharf's cards with the scene or
Deborah seeing the naked woman's body, however, unable to pinpoint
the exact location, The deputies reported that they saw and
found nothing. The next morning, though speculations began that the
sighting had something to do with the disappearance of Christine
and Nick, who were the most recently missing people from
that area. Due to the insistence from the family, deputy
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Rich Strasser decided to go back and have a closer look.
Strasser figured that it might be easier to spot anything
out of the ordinary in the daylight. Deba had indicated
that a particularly dangerous stretch of Highway fifty, known as
Bullyon Bend, was where the incident took place. As Traser
patrolled the area, he spotted a new looking childs tennis
shoe on the side of the road. Immediately next to
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that spot and the shoulder of the road was a
steep embankment. Strasser pulled over his cruiser to search the
area more thoroughly, and sure enough, at the bottom of
the embankment, he spotted the twisted remains of Christine's car.
He checked Christine and observed that she was dead and
unfortunately had been that way for quite some time. The
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deputy then went around to the other side to check Nick,
who was curled up in a fetal position in the
passenger seat. Strasser assumed the worst and was sure that
Nick was also dead. However, when he touched the little
boy's neck to find a pulse, it appeared that Nick
took a breath. Strasser immediately radioed for an ambulance. Little
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Nick had been alone in the car for five days,
yet he was somehow still clinging to life. Officials believed
that sometime around two am on June sixth, Christine must
have fallen asleep at the wheel. The car veered off
the road and plunged to the bottom of the ditch,
striking a tree. Due to the embankment being so steep,
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other drivers drove right past the accident seen for days,
unaware that it was just over the side of the road.
It was later determined that Christine had been killed instantly
on impact with a tree. To your old Nick was
all along, with no way out and no one to
talk to. Christine's mother says that she believes that little
Nick spent the time talking to his mother, unaware that
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she was dead. Against all odds, he survived five days
of intense heat and four nights of cold, trapped within
the twisted remains of the car. Doctors who examined Nick
stated that he was in such bad shape that he
would have most likely die within a couple of hours
had he not been found when he was. The strange
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encounter that saved Nick's life seems to defy any rational explanation.
If Dever had not seen the naked woman lying on
the side of the road, Nick would have not survived. Now,
it's absolutely impossible for Christine to have been the naked woman.
She was still fully clothed and wearing her seatbelt when found,
and the medical examiner stated that she was most likely
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killed on impact. Debrah Hoyt is one hundred percent certain
that she saw a naked woman on the side of
the road. Both she and Christine's family believe it was
Christine's spirit who saved Nick that day. The spirit had
apparently appeared in the nude in order to draw attention.
Nick years later, as an adult, was interviewed on a
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television show Paranormal Witness. He remembers seeing a bright light
surrounding the car following the accident. To this day, he
believes that his mother was watching over him following the
accident and helped him to be rescued. The show also
revealed that Christine's aunt had several dreams or premonitions about
the accident. Before Christine and Nick were even reported missing,
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she dreamed of seeing them lying in their car in
a ditch. She also saw the number sixteen in the dream,
which turned out to be the number for the mile
marker nearest to the accident's site. Well, there you have it.
What do you think about the apparition that little Kayden observed,
which she identified as Sandra Hughes, even down to the
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color of her hair, which was dyed blue when she
went missing. Is it possible that Sandra's spirit is attempting
to communicate with a living in a desire that remains
be found and her friend and loved ones have closure.
It certainly appears that way. And what about the two
other times she was spotted by high christ Was that
actually her? Or was that an apparition? Thank you for listening,
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and we look forward to your comments on this strange case.
As always, we asked that you please remain respectful the
victims mentioned their family and friends and the opinions of
other commenters. Until we meet again, take care of yourselves
and each other. Until we meet again, take care of
yourselves and each other. I'm Steve Stockton, and I'll see
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you a little farther on down the road, i'll talk
to you next time.