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April 28, 2025 97 mins

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Bart Vale Career Deep Dive Ep 273

Bart Vale is considered to be one of the few Americans to be on the ground floor of the Japan MMA explosion. 

Bart Vale takes us through his time with New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW) which include a famous confrontation with Ken Shamrock. 

BIG thank you to William Colosimo who helped us with understanding a time period that is largely undocumented. 

Bart Vale Career Deep Dive Ep 273  

0:00 plugs/ promotions 
0:42 Lytes out intro 
1:14 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
1:39 interview start 
2:17 beginnings in Martial arts 
3:24 Frank Dux 
4:29 Rob Van Clief 
5:00 moving to Japan to train 
10:52 lying about age to seem younger 
11:50 issues with Ed Parker 
16:06 UWF closing down due to argument 
18:40 becoming tired of living in Japan 
19:34 closed door fight rumor with Kimura
20:40 training with the Machado’s 
23:50 experience with Soranaka
24:27 Karl Gotch fight story 
27:02 experience with Gene LeBell 
29:11 almost no showing MDA event 
31:27 current life 
32:39 owning the term “Shoot Fighting” 
32:53 underground fights being a shoot 
38:28 Pride FC roots 
42:12 bringing Ken Shamrock to train 
46:52 difficulty dealing with Ken Shamrock 
50:04 Ken Shamrock lying about using steroids 
51:24 Shoot wrestling match with Ken Shamrock
56:04 Mafia involvement in the fight business 
57:28 Road Warriors story 
58:35 Corporal Kirchner getting arrested 
1:00:55 interview with William Collasium 
1:01:55 Shoot Fighting Florida
1:05:22 dealing with Marcus Marinelli
1:11:10 Suzuki and Funaki left Fujiwara and started Pancrase
1:13:58 World Combat Championships
1:18:21 inviting Jerry Flynn to fight on WCC card 
1:19:40 Erik Paulson vs James Warring 
1:21:00 experience with Manager Max Coates
1:22:56 experience with John Perretti 
1:24:23 Bart Vale vs Dan Severn 
1:26:49 Don the dragon Wilson 
1:27:10 bodyguard for Michael Jackson 
1:30:06 Julio Iglesias
1:30:50 interview wrap up 
1:31:06 outro/ closing thoughts
 

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