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Ep 289 Cecil Peoples w/ Herb Dean Deep Dive

Cecil Peoples joins us to discuss the developmental days of mixed martial arts and its transition into modern day fighting. 

We delve into stories about Frank Dux, Zane Frazier and the reputation of Gene LeBell

Herb Dean sat in on this special episode with a true pioneer of the sport Cecil Peoples 

Ep 289 Cecil Peoples w/ Herb Dean Career Deep Dive  

0:00 plugs/ promotions 
0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 
1:14 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
1:41 interview start 
2:00 beginnings in martial arts 
4:44 drafted in to the Army 
5:58 Reffed the 1st Muay Thai rule event in USA 
9:06 Herb Dean meeting Cecil Peoples 
12:22 Cecil Peoples importance to martial arts 
14:04 Herb Dean becoming a referee 
16:09 Herb Dean on growing as a referee 
18:55 Tim Sylvia arm break 
26:25 Antonio Nogueira snapped arm 
28:50 having to pull fighters off during submission 
32:24 Manson Gibson
35:50 Cyrille Diabate vs Rick Roufus
38:45 watching the first UFC on tv
39:58 Zane Frazier vs Frank Dux 
52:55 Steven Seagal $50k challenge 
54:16 Gene LeBell’s reputation 
1:00:19 auditioning for a movie 
1:04:47 understanding Jiu Jitsu before UFC 
1:08:35 interactions with the Shamrocks 
1:10:43 Erik Paulson 
1:13:25 John McCarthy becoming involved in UFC
1:18:58 thoughts on Ron Van Clief 
1:22:00 Harold Haward and Bart Vale 
1:23:00 Ray Wizard in the UFC 
1:25:41 Count Donte 
1:31:14 Eric Paulson vs James Warring 
1:32:04 Herb Dean pulled over for speeding 
1:33:57 interview wrap up 
1:36:42 outro/ closing thoughts

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