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August 23, 2024 52 mins

When the path to healing hits a roadblock, what’s the next move? Rick Doblin, Founder and President of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), takes us on a journey through the challenges and triumphs of bringing MDMA-assisted therapy closer to FDA approval. In this episode, learn about the resilience needed to overcome setbacks in the world of psychedelic therapy and the profound impact that combining psychedelics with therapy can have on healing.


Rick doesn't shy away from the ethical dilemmas and the complexities of integrating these powerful substances into therapeutic settings. His optimism shines through as he discusses the growing bipartisan support and the cutting-edge research pushing this field forward. With his deep knowledge and unwavering commitment, Rick offers a glimpse into the future of psychedelic therapy that’s both realistic and hopeful.


For anyone invested in consciousness expansion and the potential of psychedelics to transform lives, this conversation is not one to miss. Rick’s insights are a powerful reminder that the road to innovation is often challenging, but the rewards can be life-changing.


Key Takeaways:

[00:02:34] FDA setback and resilience. 

[00:06:24] FDA regulation concerns psychedelics.

[00:08:35] Unleashing potential in leadership.

[00:13:14] Psychedelics for compassionate use.

[00:16:26] Couples therapy research.

[00:20:07] Public education on psychedelics.

[00:23:27] Drug policy reform efforts.

[00:26:22] FDA's view on psychedelics.

[00:30:25] Ethical considerations in psychedelic therapy.

[00:34:25] Group therapy for cost-effective treatment.

[00:37:30] Healing through relationships.

[00:41:27] Psychedelic research setbacks.

[00:43:23] Psychedelics and human consciousness.

[00:46:31] Psychedelics and public perception.

[00:51:14] Evolution of consciousness.


Memorable Quotes:

"If you believe that this sort of consciousness change is really important, it's something to recognize that psychedelics have been used for thousands of years — and even when they've been massively suppressed, they've never been able to be eliminated. There's something about psychedelics and human beings where some fraction of human beings will seek them out and will find benefits." [00:42:58] – Rick Doblin


"I think it's about really this multiplicity of catalysts and the responsibility that we have as humans in this particular time of humanity is to really up our game and to think of ourselves collectively. We see what's happening with global warming — we see what's happening with nuclear weapons — we see what's happening with all sorts of concerns. And we need to figure out how to think as a collective, as humanity as a whole, instead of as my individual race, religion, nationality, socioeconomic status. And I think psychedelics and other things can help us with that." [00:51:03] – Rick Doblin


Connect with Rick Doblin:

Website: https://maps.org/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickdoblinphd

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rickdoblin/

Twitter: https://x.com/rickdoblin

Emails: rick@maps.org and Whitney@maps.org


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