March 5, 2025 • 46 mins
Nick Clancy is a Mokena business owner, having started Clancy Bros. coffee in Mokena. This is Nick's first time running for elected office. Get to know Nick Clancy and be sure to vote on April 1st! Early voting starts March 17th!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, nick.
Thank you for sitting down withme today and talking.
Nick is running for VillageTrustee, and so just start.
Maybe tell us a little bitabout yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah well, thanks for having me, israel.
It's a pleasure to sit down anda privilege to be able to just
talk about what hopefully we'regoing to talk about tonight.
But I'm originally fromPlainfield, illinois, so I'm
familiar with this area, willCounty.
I have an aunt who's beenliving in Mokina for over three
decades.
My sister lives in Mokina, soI'm from this area.
(00:41):
It's very familiar.
It feels like home.
I'm one of five kids.
I'm the youngest.
We always kind of joke around.
We didn't have the typicaltraditional childhood.
We were kind of over-churchedhomeschool kids that just had a.
We sort of resisted that.
But then, looking back, we'reglad because it shaped us into
who we are.
We're all independent thinkers.
(01:10):
Most of us are entrepreneurs.
I think four out of the fiveown their own business, myself
included.
So our parents were doingsomething right, I would say.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
How long have you been in Mokina?
Two and a half years, okay.
So really, since the, was itright when the business opened,
or shortly Was it after?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Right before we opened, I found a townhouse in
Grasmere Good, good.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, so good.
You've been at two and a halfyears.
What's your impression of town?
What do you think of Mokina?
I love it here.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I absolutely love it here.
Um, when you first move intotown, you're you're sort of just
getting a feel for how thepeople are, and then you know
the main major intersections,the Grange and Route 30, but
then once you get settled in,man, you really just get a good
feel for what's important to thepeople who live here.
And you just get a feel forwhat's important in terms of you
(02:09):
know what they want to see,what they don't want to see, and
then having a coffee shopreally gave me that sneak peek
into sort of the deeper thoughtsof the residents of Mokina.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, and I want to get into the coffee shop more,
but you bring that up, but youknow.
So when you're hearing people,what do you hear from people?
Um, you know they're coming tothe coffee shop and talking
about town, like what, maybethings they'd like to see, or
that, uh, they like, or theytell you about the village.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so you get a lot of South siders, a lot of
people who grew up on the Southside of Chicago that have
migrated here, and I think whatI'm learning is that a lot of
these families that have beenhere for decades are now
starting to have their kids whomoved away come back, and so
I've just had a lot ofconversations with them that
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they're excited that their kidsare now moving back into Mokina,
and so, having conversationswith the parents and now getting
a chance to have conversationswith the kids that are starting
to lay roots down here and growtheir families, they start
talking about wanting a downtown.
They start wanting to sharetheir thoughts about what Mokina
can be and not throwing thebaby out with the bathwater and
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changing everything.
It just means that there's justso much potential to maximize
just what this town is capableof, and we have a lot of young
people, a lot of young familiesthat want to see that in their
lifetime, and then a lot ofpeople from my parents'
generation that want to bechampions of that, that actually
want to see their kids in atown where they grew up in
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better than when they left it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So, yeah, Talk a little bit about what do you do
for fun when you're outside ofthe coffee shop.
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I like to.
I'm going to sound boring, butI like to hit up other coffee
shops.
I like to go into Chicago andjust kind of see what other
coffee shops are doing.
I love spending time with myfamily.
Like I said, I'm one of five,so there's always somebody to
hang out with, there's alwayssomething to do and, yeah, when
the weather's nice, I like beingoutside and playing golf.
(04:19):
I coach flag football with mybrothers, so I can't wait for
flag football season to startback up.
So, yeah, just being around,family, playing golf, being
active, working out, love toread, so usually when I'm
checking out the coffee shops, Iusually have a book with me too
.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So coffee shops are very community-like, right.
So is it the same in betweencoffee shops, like when you go
to another one, are they, youknow, they kind of want to talk
to you?
You know, is it a relationshiplike, do people want to, you
know, get involved with eachother absolutely?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
absolutely we.
We have a term we use at theclient at Clancy, where it's
called familiar strangers, okay,so there's this kind of
unspoken connection that youfeel when you step into a coffee
shop.
But you're always tempted towant to push past that boundary
of like, hey, these people knowmy name, they know my drink,
like they know my routine, theyknow what time of day I come in,
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and so there's this familiaritythat you just naturally build
over time, that you becomefamiliar with because you want
to go back, you want toexperience that feeling of being
known and being seen, but atthe same time you know that you
can't be friends with everybodyand you can't hang out with
everybody.
So I usually just try to keepit surface level, and that's
(05:36):
usually how we do it at ClancyBros too.
It's just you get to knowpeople beyond a certain point,
but there's also room forfriendships to be made too, any
outside.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know other coffee shops that you really like
outside of the area that you'drecommend or you found recently.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, so how much time you got.
So I'm always looking for coolspots, just because I love
specialty coffee which isdifferent than you know
Starbucks, dunkin', those kindof things.
So I'm always looking for coolspots in the different suburbs.
But my favorite coffee shop isthis place called Gaslight what
a name, right?
Gaslight Coffee Roasters inLogan Square, so it's like
(06:18):
Milwaukee and Fullerton, okay.
So they roast their own coffee.
They buy really good coffee.
They roast on the same machinethat we roast on.
So I'm kind of showing theirsupport because they roast on a
Diedrich, which is what we roaston, and I know the guy who does
all their coffee and he's justa great dude.
So I'm always trying to plugGaslight for those people who
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are trying to get good coffee inthe city.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Very cool, yeah.
So what, getting into thebusiness a little bit, when you
decided to bring or start acoffee shop, or how did you
maybe one decide to start it andthen two end up in Mokina?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Love that question.
It's a huge, long journey toget there so I won't get into
all those details, but I startedtwo businesses when I lived out
in Arizona.
I moved out there in 2015,started two businesses that
failed and most people are like,well, that stinks and it did.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What were those?
What kind of businesses?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
One was an app.
It was automated video editingsoftware, so it was centered
around going to events.
So if it was a concert orsporting event, it would kind of
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splice both perspectivestogether and then generate like
a 90 second highlight video ofyour time there.
And so I spent a lot of timedeveloping that and trying to
get that up off the ground andit failed.
It was not a good situation,but I just learned so much.
So I almost feel like I got mymaster's degree in business just
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by failing at business my firsttime.
And then it wasn't until I movedback in 2021 that I got that
itch to start a business again.
Sat down with my brother, chris, and he's like let's do
something, man, what do youthink?
And I'm just like well, I lovecoffee.
You know, I started roasting onthe side, just kind of as a
hobby.
I used to work as a baristapart-time while we were starting
(08:30):
those other companies inPhoenix, so I had worked in it,
I had a passion for it and thisitch to be an entrepreneur and
it was just kind of the rightplace in the right time and
Chris kind of stoking the fireand getting that flame going.
But we really didn't know whatthe next step was until my
sister, rachel talk about timingcalls us out of the blue and
(08:50):
says there's this really awesome, amazing empty bank building on
the corner of La Porte and WolfRoad.
You guys should just check itout.
It's sort of like a too good tobe true location, and so we
drove over there and we saw therealtor's information outside of
the building.
We're looking around and we'rejust like what is going on?
Why is this building vacant?
(09:10):
This is such a great spot onthe corner here, and so we
contacted the realtor and wewere able to get in and it just
started.
The wheels just started turning.
I'm like we could put the barhere.
The roaster will go there, wecan knock that wall down,
kitchen here and before you knowit, we were able to get all of
our permits approved by thevillage, not without its.
(09:31):
You know it's a process tostart a business and how long
was you know?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
you say you signed the lease or you started the
process to opening day.
How long did that take?
Eight months.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wow.
So it took us eight months,which, considering, is pretty
good timing.
To take an empty, vacant bankand to transform it into a
coffee house in eight months ismoving pretty quickly.
And, um, you know, we had somethings that slowed us down, but
those things that slowed us downwe were working with the
village, um were were thingsthat needed time.
(10:04):
It wasn't something we couldblow past, it was something that
we needed to take time on andit involved safety and the patio
, and there was an existingdrive-thru that was already
there and we were figuring outif we were going to utilize the
drive-thru and if we weren't, itwas going to be a patio.
But it couldn't be a patiountil we had proper structures
that would prevent cars fromgetting so that kind of delayed
(10:26):
things, but rightfully so.
It was important that we did itthat way.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So how far, how close did you stay to you know your
original, what you thought wasgoing to be your timeline?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We thought we were so optimistic.
We're like we're going to getthis done in four months.
Man, we got everything planned.
You know, we were go-gettersand so it took double that.
We thought we would do it infour months, but it took eight
months.
So yeah, it was a longerprocess than we expected.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So what did you learn ?
What are some lessons youlearned during that process?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
things that matter take time.
Things that you want to doright take time.
And there's no way of cuttingcorners.
Well, I guess there is, but ifyou want to do it the right way,
you don't want to cut corners.
And if you're not going to cutcorners, then you have to accept
that it's just going to take alittle bit longer.
And so I learned patience is,um is absolutely necessary in
starting a business.
Things go wrong that you didn'tthink would go wrong.
(11:32):
People that you relied on uhend up being unreliable, um
finance it's.
There's a lot of moving parts,and for all of it to go right is
like an impossibility, you know.
So I think next time, or thenext coffee shop, whatever thing
, whatever we do next, I'll justhave a lot more wisdom, but
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also just a lot moreunderstanding going into it that
you need to be flexible and youneed to be able to bob and
weave with the ebbs and flows ofjust starting a brand new
business.
This was the first first of itskind, so no one gave us a
playbook and said here's how todo it.
You know, we did it all our own.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I know, you know the community was excited for the
whole as long as since thatfirst sign went up or word went
out that it was coming.
You know it was a long, youknow anticipated thing.
So I'm sure to us maybe it feltlike a lot longer at the time
than it did.
But now, looking at running forvillage trustee and looking
back at that experience, what doyou think you could take from
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that and make it easier orbetter, a smoother process for
businesses coming in orbusinesses that want to build?
How can you improve thatprocess after going through it
so recently?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Israel and I think that is abig part of why I am running for
trustee is to kind of take thewisdom that was learned from
this process and use it toadvance other businesses that
see Mkina as an attractive placeto start their business.
I think for me, when we firstwere driving down Front Street
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three years ago, we just sawwhat Molkina could be.
You just kind of have thisrevelation of like man, this
downtown has so much potential.
It's built to be special, it'sbuilt to be amazing.
We just have to get the rightpeople to buy into that.
We have to get the right peoplethat can catch that vision.
(13:35):
Businesses take on all the risk, you know, because they're the
ones putting up their own moneyand they're the ones taking all
of their life savings, all oftheir time, energy and resources
into starting a business.
They need every advantage theycan get and they need to feel
like the wind is at their back.
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And that's an opportunity forthe village of Mokina to support
these businesses in that way,not to make it difficult, but to
make it easier.
And that doesn't mean that wewe stop scrutinizing and stop
holding people accountable.
It doesn't mean that.
It just means that we'repro-business, and being
pro-business means that we wantto hopefully attract the right
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people that fit our culture andour town to want to take that
risk that fit our culture andour town, to want to take that
risk.
And I think if you know thatthere are people on the village
board that are willing to workwith you and willing to champion
you, then that makes developersand entrepreneurs and small
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businesses that much more likelyto want to invest in the
downtown area and invest inMokina.
It's just, it's there, man,it's right there.
So that's what motivates me andI believe that that I can help
champion small businesses thatwant to come in here.
But I also have a lot of peoplethat and this is something that
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we're trying to work towardsrewriting, in a sense, the
reputation, Like you were saying, there's a reputation that
Mokina isn't pro-business andthat's not maybe entirely
accurate.
But if it's a reputation that'sout there, then if people are
trying to open up a business andthey're looking around the
different towns, they'reoverlooking Mokina when they
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shouldn't be because of thisreputation that was maybe there
before I even moved into town.
So I want to work to rewritethat so that doesn't even need
to be on the radar.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
What do you think as a trustee?
How do you think you can usethat position to help or what do
you think your role would beinteracting with, say, a new
potential business coming in?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
So I think, um, just my past ofbeing on teams is something that
I think I I bring a certaindynamic to the table.
That um represents what teamworklooks like, so I'm able to get
things done by myself if I can,and if I can't, I will find
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somebody who can, and usuallyit's somebody with a completely
different skill set, acompletely different background,
a completely different level ofability in that area.
Ability in that area, and soknowing that I want to execute
something, but knowing that it'sgoing to take a team to do it,
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I think is an asset to the, tothe village, because I know
where I end and where someoneelse can begin.
And so it does take a team toto make something a reality.
And when it comes to smallbusinesses coming into town and
recruiting those businesses,I'll know which person needs to
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be called, which person needs tobe set aside and asked
questions to, and so that's kindof the approach that I'm
bringing to.
This is just it's going to taketeamwork, it's going to take
the right people being on theright seats and the right
positions and ultimately, theyjust need to know that we're
going to work with them?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, great.
So we've talked some about it,but maybe just tell what made
you want to be a trustee and runfor trustee.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, it was probably just a number of things, but
being able to have arelationship with some of the
people who are already on theboard just through coming into
the coffee shop and having someinnocuous conversations, random
conversations, and seeing theirheart and catching their heart
because they care and I thinkthat's what's attractive about
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wanting to work with people thatcare.
And so having conversationswith the mayor and asking him if
I would have any interest andoriginally kind of being like no
, I got my hands full.
I have a business that we justopened.
It's a lot plus other thingsthat are going on in my life
that I want to focus on, but Ijust I just had this itch.
I don't know where it kind ofcame from, if it's just just the
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conversations I've had, or justum, a passion for wanting to
see something so ripe for um,for change in a good way, see
that through, to see that visioncome to reality.
That's what made me want to run.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think in the end, so you talked a little bit about
downtown and we had talked alittle before, and that's
something I'm extremelypassionate about.
I live in downtown.
I want to see an active,vibrant downtown.
We see a spark of it, with, youknow, the dock coming in and uh
, zap being there now and and uh, some other things, uh, but
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talk about downtown what you'dlike to see.
You know, if you could waveyour magic wand, how, what, what
would you want downtown to looklike?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
yeah, love that question because that's where a
lot of my time is spent inbetween the years, you know,
imagining and envisioning whatthings could be like.
So I love the fact that Mokinahas front street.
It's just, it's got a nice ringto it and then it's just a nice
long stretch of road that goesfrom Schoolhouse Road to Wolf
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Road.
And to me that's kind of wherewe start is just let's get Front
Street developed, let's have ahallmark main street for lack of
a better term just a mainstreet.
That's going to be where youcan basically park your car and
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go to six or more differentbusinesses just by walking
around.
And I think that's kind of ifyou could define what makes it
downtown.
I think it's like it's a handfulof businesses that are there
where, if you were on foot or onyour bike, you could walk
around, whether it's ice cream,a deli, brunch, a boutique, a
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clothing store, a spa, adoctor's office, you could go to
all of those places in a day onyour feet and walk from your
home or park your car and beable to walk around.
But it's not just front streetand it's not just having a row
of businesses, it's also justthe layout.
So you have and I think themayor has talked about this but
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Yunkers Park or Yunkers Farm,all of that land back there is
really underutilized, and so Ithink that is also great
potential for some bike paths,some trails.
I envision amphitheaters, justplaces to do outdoor concerts
and outdoor events andactivities for when the weather
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is nice.
So there's just so much you cando beyond just Front Street.
That will be so beneficial forfamilies that want to enjoy the
land in their backyard, but it'sgoing to take developers and
it's going to take people whowant to actually dig into that
ground.
But Front Street is kind ofwhere my mind first goes, just
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having a row of businesses thatpeople can frequent on foot,
yeah, or people get off thetrain.
You know the train tracks areright there too.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, and it's kind of.
It's funny.
Yeah, that's you'd love to see,that I'd love to see an active
and it it reminds me of what itused to be like.
You know, I talked to some withyou know the history of things.
We talk about the people thathave been around.
You know, back in the 80s and90s even and that's what it was,
you know you walk from shop,you had everything in downtown.
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You could get some groceries,you could get this or that, and
yeah, you know it's a differenttime, but like there's still
that there and there's so manygood examples with Tinley and
New Lenox and using their spacesto tie in and create community
space, I think we do have a lotof opportunity in Mokena for
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that.
Yeah, definitely Talk a littlebit about how your experiences
overall will make you a bettertrustee.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, I've been a leader my whole life, and what I
mean by that is I've just beenin a position where what I mean
by that is I've just been in aposition where I've had to be
the first to do something, orthe one to take a risk, or the
one to lead by example, or tokind of go head first into
something that is brand new andno one wants to do it.
(22:33):
Something my parents wouldalways say growing up is Nick
will do it.
So it was kind of maybe a joke,but it's always stuck with me
it's just Nick will do it Right.
So it was kind of maybe a joke,but it's always stuck with me.
It's just Nick will do it.
And so I think that's kind ofgiven me not a fearlessness
necessarily, because it takescourage to still open up a
business and do other thingsthat are brand new.
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It's scary, but at the sametime, being able to push forward
even though you feel thoseemotions, I think is kind of
what makes me who I am.
So just a hunger to want to lead, but lead from a place of
service, of servanthood.
It's servant leadership.
That's what it is, andespecially in local politics,
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local government, it's aboutservice.
We're here to serve.
It's about service we're hereto serve, and if I have a gift
of leadership, it's only as goodas my ability to lead in a way
that serves the best interestsof the people who live here.
So I think that's kind of whatI bring.
But I also bring vision and Ibring a level of determination
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to want to see things be areality.
We can sit around this tableall day long and dream about
Front Street and all thesepossibilities, but we got to get
it done.
We actually need to work andact.
So another side of that is myimpatience of like come on,
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let's go.
We can do this.
We just have to cooperate.
We have to work together.
So I think it starts with avision.
It starts with good leadership.
I think we have that with MayorFrank Fleischer.
He's got the vision and I thinkthat's a big part of why I'm
even sitting here is theconversations we've had of him
also wanting all of this tohappen before he's done with his
service and so being able tokind of follow his vision and
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knowing that we're just here toserve.
We need to back all of this upwith a ton of action and we need
the right people to worktogether.
It's collaborative, which is thebeauty of how our government is
set up, is we do have to worktogether, and sometimes that's
more difficult than you'd likeit to be, and sometimes that's
more difficult than you'd likeit to be, but at the same time,
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it's a new opportunity to relateand connect to your co-workers
and the people you're workingwith in a different way, and so
if someone is different than you, you've got to be able to meet
them on that level If that'sgoing to make them feel like,
hey, you listened to me or youheard my idea, and that's half
the battle, that you're actuallywilling to listen to my ideas,
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my idea, and that's half thebattle that you're actually
willing to listen to my ideas.
And so I'm just excited to havethose conversations and to just
get to know the people thatwe're going to be working with.
And yeah, is that the answer?
Yeah, that's great, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So let's say if there's a criticism and somebody
says, hey, you've only beenhere two and a half years, what
makes you prepared to be atrustee?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's a fair question, very fair question.
I'm just here to learn that's abig part of it is.
I understand that I haven'tlived here for 30 years, 20
years, 10 years, five years,near two and a half years.
I understand that.
But I've had so manyconversations with people who
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have come through the coffeeshop and we've I've been able to
second-handedly get a rundownof this town um, just through
the people who have lived herefor so long.
So in a way I feel like I'velived here longer than I have
just because I've gotten tospend so much time with people
who have been lifelong Mokinaresidents.
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But I would just say where Ilack experience of being a
resident here, I make up for inmy passion and enthusiasm for
wanting to see Mokena be thatall it can be.
But wanting to learn means alsowanting to listen, and so I've
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had some great conversationsjust in the last couple of weeks
as the campaign has started,just asking questions and just
being like, hey, what do youwant to see in your town?
What does a good downtown looklike to you?
And when you start to connectthe dots and you start to see
common denominators of like, wow, okay, these aren't just random
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things people want to see.
There's a cohesive narrativestarting to connect here that
people want a downtown andthey're craving it, so they
deserve it, and that's what Iwould say yeah, great.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
What do you see as some of the biggest challenges
facing the village over the nextfive to ten years?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I would probably have to just say the passing of the
baton, the passing of the mantlefrom one generation to the next
generation.
So I think what happens is aprevious generation gets
complacent isn't the right word,maybe comfortable and it's only
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human nature to want to seekwhat's comfortable and what's
familiar, and this happens withevery generation.
The next generation comes alongand says, hey, we see things
differently, we want to dothings differently.
The old generation holds on tothe past of what's familiar and
is a little bit resistant towhat change needs to happen.
The people who want to makechanges bite off more than they
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can chew and there's thistension, there's this tug of war
that's happening.
And so I think that is going tobe a challenge over the next
five to ten years is how do westeward the rich history of
Mokina, of this awesome town,and honoring the people who
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really have built it, who havedone the hard work of making
Okinawa what it is andpreserving that while still
making room for change andprogress and just taking it to
another level.
So I see that as a challenge,but it's only as difficult as a
challenge is people's ability orinability to want to work
together and hear each other out.
So both sides, both generations, need a great deal of humility
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to say, hey, we need to pass thebaton, but we need to pass the
baton to people who aren't goingto ruin or tamper with the
goodness that we've created hereover the last however many
generations.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So it can be tough to balance that desire to bring in
new blood as well as learningand respecting and appreciating
the experience and knowledge,and that that's have come from
the time before.
You know as well, and that canbe a real challenge in a
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situation like this, for sureTalk.
How would you so you say youwin and you get into office?
How would you challenge?
How would you deal withdisagreements with fellow
trustees or the mayor?
You know, something comes upand you don't disagree with them
.
What's your strategy to workthrough that?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I think I can just allude tohow we make tough decisions at
Clancy Bros.
I have a partner right, it'sClancy Brothers, it's not just
me and we have other people whoare a part of the ownership of
the company, that are veryinvolved on the back end of the
company, and what we have iswhat we call our true north.
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Our true north is shared vision.
If we've all agreed that thisis going to be the vision, this
is where we're going.
This is the standard that we'regoing to run the business.
When it comes time to makingdecisions, we have to ask is
this decision going to move theneedle towards what we've
already established as our endgoal?
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And that has taken all of theguesswork out of it, and we
really have just had amazingmeetings.
And when we do have to maketough decisions, it just brings
so much clarity knowing that,hey, the vision has been set,
the mission is set, this iswhere we're headed, these are
the values and these are thecharacteristics of the kinds of
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people we want to bring intothis team.
These are the kinds ofdecisions we want to be making.
That's going to push Mokinacloser to what we want it to
become, and so, when it comes toworking with a team, you have
to have somebody who sets theagenda and sets the tone and
casts that vision.
And not everyone has to agreewith that vision, and sometimes
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that is the case.
But when you come to adisagreement, hopefully there is
something that is going to beyour compass, that is going to
guide you back towards a placeof not compromise but agreement,
where we can maybe disagree oncertain things, but we can.
We can agree on the biggerpicture stuff, the macro stuff
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of like, hey, this is going tomove the needle towards where we
want to go, and so we need tobe in agreement on this.
But, um, I think too, it's.
It's again.
It goes back to the servicething.
It's not about me.
Yeah, we're all individuals upthere, but we have to vote
together, and so each one of usbrings a different perspective,
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and that's a beautiful thing tosome degree.
But when we go issue by issue,line item by line item, you're
bound to have a disagreement.
And so my thought iscollaboration.
I just want to be able tocollaborate, and if you can't,
then you can't, and then you usethe power of the vote to kind
of be your last ditch effort tospeak your piece.
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You vote a certain way, but ifyou can come to an agreement
through conversation andcollaboration, first by going
back to your true north of whatyou're setting out to do in the
first place, then I think that'shalf the battle.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So, kind of as we wrap up, I have some more
lighthearted questions, butfirst talk about your family a
little bit.
Your siblings, tell us who theyare a little, and your parents.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah.
So my parents, mike and RoseClancy best parents I could have
ever asked for, gosh, they didso much for us growing up.
When you look back it's likehow did my mom homeschool five
kids, how did my dad start aconstruction company from
nothing and then build it towhat it was, while having five
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kids and us being involved ineverything sports, academics,
just busyness but had greatparents.
They're still very invested inmy life and I in their lives to
this day.
We're very close.
My brother Mike he's the oldest, he's an attorney, he lives out
in Scottsdale, arizona, he'sgot a big family, he's married
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and he's got six kids.
My brother Wow, six kids.
He's got six kids.
Yeah, just had twins over thesummer, wow.
Four to six, yeah so they have abeautiful family out there in
Arizona.
My sister Beth.
She's out here.
She lives in Plainfield.
She's married two kids.
She works for a real estatedevelopment company out in
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Lamont.
Chris, my partner at Clancy Bros, married two kids.
He lives out in Western Springs.
He and I coach flag footballtogether and he's just a guy I
look up to and always been arole model and a mentor to me,
especially when I was reallyyoung.
But so to be able to work withhim has been awesome.
He also has a constructioncompany called Clancy Co Works,
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primarily out of Chicago on thenorth neighborhoods up there in
the city and he does a reallygood job of taking old buildings
.
And it's ironic that we took anold building in Clancy Bros and
we made it into something great.
And that's what he does hetakes old buildings and he
renovates them, he flips them,he redoes them and he sells them
.
So he's really found his nicheout there in the city.
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And then my sister Rachel,another entrepreneur, married to
another entrepreneur.
She's got two boys.
She lives here in Mokina.
Her company's called Boxed GiftCompany.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, talk a little bit about that in right in
within your little complex there.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, rachel.
Rachel started in 2017 and itjust started kind of as a a
passion project.
She just has this gift ofwanting to give right and so she
just is this generous person.
She's's like, how do I takethat and make it a business?
And then she just had this ideaof these like carefully curated
gift boxes where people, ifthey're in a pinch and they
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don't have time to like go outand get a gift, they literally
go right to her shop fill yourbox with these random.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
That's my wife's exact so she's done it a couple
times.
It works, works out great.
Oh, it's great yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, so she's doing great over there.
She started out in her house,then moved to New Lenox and now
she's here in Mokina.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's awesome yeah it's great and that strip, so
there's a couple things in thatother property there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, first we have Fratello's.
They do a lot of catering butthey also have lunch and dinner
for walk-ins and I'm pretty surethey have a pretty stellar
DoorDash community because youalways see cars coming in and
out picking up orders reallygood Italian food.
Next door is actually ClancyBros Wholesale.
So we have a second businessit's the wholesale arm of the
company where we just roast.
So we not only roast forourselves but we roast for other
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businesses in this communityand then all over Chicagoland
and is that part open?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Is that open to the public at all or not?
It's not.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's like our roastery where we roast most of
the beans, but it's also anactive commissary too.
We have a full kitchen in therethat's been approved of Will
County Health Department forpeople who want to use it as a
commissary, but we use it tomake all of our pastries, so all
of our pastries are in-house.
So it's a kitchen roastery.
And then the last unit isin-touch design.
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I think that's what it is.
You'll have to double checkInDesign or InTouch Design and
it's just an interior designboutique company out in that
corner unit.
So, yeah, we have neighbors andthey're all great, so it was
cool to see that buildingfinally get some tenants.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Well, the whole corner.
You know that building's beenvacant as long as you know.
We were coming on nine yearsand I know it was before that
too, so it's great to see thewhole thing active now.
It really brings life to thatcorner.
So, besides Clancy's, what aresome of your?
What's your favorite breakfastrestaurant?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I would probably say just like, historically, the
original Pancake House.
Just growing up, going thereafter church and just getting a
Dutch baby, you know, supernostalgic.
So when I moved back into thearea that was like the first
place we went to.
I was like it's right down thestreet now.
That's funny, this could bedangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
So I would say that Okay, how about a favorite area
restaurant?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In the Mokina area.
What's?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
your call.
I mean, you know, play to thevoters or not, let's see.
It doesn't have to be, you cango anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I like Cultivate in downtown Frankfurt.
They sell our cold brew there,so shout out to Cultivate.
They have really goodsandwiches, salads over there.
It's not really in this area,it's a little bit of a drive,
but downtown Lamont, I reallylike Wood Paddle Pizza over
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there.
They just do a really good joband just great people over there
.
The owner, jonathan, is areally nice guy and they have a
terrific chef that totallyrevamped their menu.
So the pizzas are really good,but they just have these other
food items that are just liketop-notch.
So that's always a good spot,even if you're just looking to
chow down on a pizza or lookingto have like a nice date.
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So it's like it's just best ofboth worlds, great spot wouldn't
peddle.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
All right, we won't strike you too hard for it not
being a Mokina restaurant.
How about your favorite Mokinacommunity event?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I was really, really excited about the food trucks
that we were doing.
I mean, I know that's not asingle event, but it's.
You know it's a weekly thingand a lot of people started
coming to it.
You know, especially when itfirst started, you weren't sure
if it was going to take off.
And then, boom, you know,people really did show out for
it, so that was great.
But, dude, the 4th of Julyparade is freaking awesome.
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Yeah, and I'm biased because itgoes right by Clancy Rose and we
have, you know, our little tentout there and just serving up
coffee and cold brew and icedtea to people who have just been
camping out since 5 am, and areyou guys open during the oh
yeah?
Yeah, yeah, we're open and uh,it's just.
Yeah, it's fun, it's just a funday for us because we get to
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just see all the floats go likeright by.
Oh, that's cool, and theneveryone's just camped outside,
so that's great.
Yeah, fourth july is awesomeyeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I agree that's my favorite community event too.
How about your favorite thingabout mochina?
I'd say two things.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
First thing is no one gives mochina enough credit for
how like uniquely positioned itis on the map.
Like you have, you havelagrange and then you have 30,
but then it's sort of Mokina'ssort of tucked away a little bit
and I think it lends itself tobeing like it has a feel that
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New Lenox doesn't have, thatFrankfurt doesn't have.
It's just Mokina has its ownfeel and that feeling is it's
like a small town, it's ahometown, it's a small town, it
feels tucked away.
But because you have those bigroads and Wolf Road going
through, you know that you'reone shot away from getting back
into the hustle and bustle too.
So it's like it's a veryuniquely positioned on the map,
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which I love that it's like that.
But number two, just the peopleman telling you it's like has
blown me away just in the lastand I get emotional even just
talking about it becauseespecially the first year, I was
behind the bar a lot, you know,just making drinks, just
because I had to be.
You know it was a brand newbusiness and everything had to
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be running right, so I couldn'tafford to not be there.
But you just have these randomconversations and people just
saying, like man, we're so gladyou're here and thank you for
choosing Mokina.
And it's just like you can'tbeat those those little
connections over time.
And on top of those littleconnections you develop
friendships just through thatand you really get a snapshot
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into the heart of Mokina andit's just great people that live
here and so Shout out.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Danny Potter, and so shout out Danny Potter.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Oh man, I got a story about Danny.
But yeah, man, he's like, it'smy, it's my favorite customer
right there.
Man, when you, when I first metDaniel, you know I didn't know
what to what to do at first,cause I didn't know him.
And then he would stand, youknow, in his like designated
spot and he would say hello toeverybody and everyone knew him.
Everyone would say hi back.
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It's like this guy knowseverybody in town.
Somehow him just being theremade everyone comfortable
Because we were new and it'slike this new coffee shop, but
Daniel's here, that just makesit better.
So, yeah, shout out to Daniel.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Potter.
He's a staple.
I have a similar story.
I take the train downtown andfor a long time Danny would be
there every day and would waveat the trains and then knew
every conductor and like hey,where's Frank today?
He knew their schedules andthen, as I got to know him, I
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mean now I get calls twice aweek.
I love Danny, he's great he knewall about that, of course of
course we're going to talk todanny too soon, so right, um,
what would you say is maybe the,the local business that you
support the most?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
we used to go to zap taco a lot um over the summer,
and we still do so.
I would say Zap Taco is upthere, and then would it be
weird to say BrookhavenBrookhaven grocery store.
I live right over there, so I'mthere pretty much every day
grabbing my dinner.
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But, to be honest with you, Ithink this is a perfect
opportunity to make a pointwhich is like the fact that it's
kind of difficult to even thinkabout.
That is is what motivates me towant to make it a no-brainer.
Yeah, yes, that's where I go.
That's where I go, and for somepeople, I'm sure it's, it is a
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no-brainer.
But I want the, I want thedowntown to be a place where
there is just thriving localbusinesses, where people cannot
wait to go back and they're notunsure about if they should go
or not.
It's just like no, that's ourspot.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I really appreciate this.
I'll say you and ClancyBrothers have been very
supportive of the Lions Club andgiven us the coffee the last
two years, which has beenawesome for the pancake
breakfast we do, yeah, so it isalways great to see businesses
coming in and you know wantingto be involved and get active
and supportive in that.
So thank you both and you allat Clancy Brothers for doing
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that, and you know, just thankyou for taking the time to talk
to me and anything else you wantto share.
If you want to make your pitchor say why people should vote
for you, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, well, thanks, israel.
It's a pleasure sitting downwith you and appreciate the
opportunity as well.
Yeah, the last closing remarksI would make would just be we're
here to serve the people ofMokina.
We're here to serve the peopleof Mokina.
The people of this communitydeserve to have a viable
downtown and they deserve tohave a place where they can be
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proud of A downtown that's intheir backyard, that they can
walk to, they can ride theirbikes to, they don't have to
travel, they can have peace ofmind knowing that everything
that they need and want in ahealthy community and a healthy
town is all here.
It's all here and um, and somemight say that it's already
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there and we don't need tochange anything.
But based on what I've heardfrom the people that live in
this, in this community, is they, they want that.
So it's not that we want it andyou should want it too.
It's you've communicated thatyou want it.
Now it's time to go to work.
It's time to.
We want it and you should wantit too.
It's you've communicated thatyou want it.
Now it's time to go to work.
It's time to go to work GreatWell.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Thank you, nick.
Be sure to check out all of ourvideos and on the different
candidate interviews and be sureto vote on April 1st in the
election.
This is really important and inthese small elections every
vote really does count.
It's not a large vote total, soif you want to make a
difference.
This is the election.
So thanks again, nick,appreciate it, appreciate it
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absolutely.
Thank you.
All right, nick.
Thank you for sitting down withme today and talking.
Nick is running for VillageTrustee, and so just start.
Maybe tell us a little bitabout yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah well, thanks for having me, israel.
It's a pleasure to sit down anda privilege to be able to just
talk about what hopefully we'regoing to talk about tonight.
But I'm originally fromPlainfield, illinois, so I'm
familiar with this area, willCounty.
I have an aunt who's beenliving in Mokina for over three
decades.
My sister lives in Mokina, soI'm from this area.
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It's very familiar.
It feels like home.
I'm one of five kids.
I'm the youngest.
We always kind of joke around.
We didn't have the typicaltraditional childhood.
We were kind of over-churchedhomeschool kids that just had a.
We sort of resisted that.
But then, looking back, we'reglad because it shaped us into
who we are.
We're all independent thinkers.
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Most of us are entrepreneurs.
I think four out of the fiveown their own business, myself
included.
So our parents were doingsomething right, I would say.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
How long have you been in Mokina?
Two and a half years, okay.
So really, since the, was itright when the business opened,
or shortly Was it after?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Right before we opened, I found a townhouse in
Grasmere Good, good.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, so good.
You've been at two and a halfyears.
What's your impression of town?
What do you think of Mokina?
I love it here.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I absolutely love it here.
Um, when you first move intotown, you're you're sort of just
getting a feel for how thepeople are, and then you know
the main major intersections,the Grange and Route 30, but
then once you get settled in,man, you really just get a good
feel for what's important to thepeople who live here.
And you just get a feel forwhat's important in terms of you
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know what they want to see,what they don't want to see, and
then having a coffee shopreally gave me that sneak peek
into sort of the deeper thoughtsof the residents of Mokina.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, and I want to get into the coffee shop more,
but you bring that up, but youknow.
So when you're hearing people,what do you hear from people?
Um, you know they're coming tothe coffee shop and talking
about town, like what, maybethings they'd like to see, or
that, uh, they like, or theytell you about the village.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so you get a lot of South siders, a lot of
people who grew up on the Southside of Chicago that have
migrated here, and I think whatI'm learning is that a lot of
these families that have beenhere for decades are now
starting to have their kids whomoved away come back, and so
I've just had a lot ofconversations with them that
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they're excited that their kidsare now moving back into Mokina,
and so, having conversationswith the parents and now getting
a chance to have conversationswith the kids that are starting
to lay roots down here and growtheir families, they start
talking about wanting a downtown.
They start wanting to sharetheir thoughts about what Mokina
can be and not throwing thebaby out with the bathwater and
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changing everything.
It just means that there's justso much potential to maximize
just what this town is capableof, and we have a lot of young
people, a lot of young familiesthat want to see that in their
lifetime, and then a lot ofpeople from my parents'
generation that want to bechampions of that, that actually
want to see their kids in atown where they grew up in
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better than when they left it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So, yeah, Talk a little bit about what do you do
for fun when you're outside ofthe coffee shop.
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I like to.
I'm going to sound boring, butI like to hit up other coffee
shops.
I like to go into Chicago andjust kind of see what other
coffee shops are doing.
I love spending time with myfamily.
Like I said, I'm one of five,so there's always somebody to
hang out with, there's alwayssomething to do and, yeah, when
the weather's nice, I like beingoutside and playing golf.
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I coach flag football with mybrothers, so I can't wait for
flag football season to startback up.
So, yeah, just being around,family, playing golf, being
active, working out, love toread, so usually when I'm
checking out the coffee shops, Iusually have a book with me too
.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So coffee shops are very community-like, right.
So is it the same in betweencoffee shops, like when you go
to another one, are they, youknow, they kind of want to talk
to you?
You know, is it a relationshiplike, do people want to, you
know, get involved with eachother absolutely?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
absolutely we.
We have a term we use at theclient at Clancy, where it's
called familiar strangers, okay,so there's this kind of
unspoken connection that youfeel when you step into a coffee
shop.
But you're always tempted towant to push past that boundary
of like, hey, these people knowmy name, they know my drink,
like they know my routine, theyknow what time of day I come in,
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and so there's this familiaritythat you just naturally build
over time, that you becomefamiliar with because you want
to go back, you want toexperience that feeling of being
known and being seen, but atthe same time you know that you
can't be friends with everybodyand you can't hang out with
everybody.
So I usually just try to keepit surface level, and that's
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usually how we do it at ClancyBros too.
It's just you get to knowpeople beyond a certain point,
but there's also room forfriendships to be made too, any
outside.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know other coffee shops that you really like
outside of the area that you'drecommend or you found recently.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, so how much time you got.
So I'm always looking for coolspots, just because I love
specialty coffee which isdifferent than you know
Starbucks, dunkin', those kindof things.
So I'm always looking for coolspots in the different suburbs.
But my favorite coffee shop isthis place called Gaslight what
a name, right?
Gaslight Coffee Roasters inLogan Square, so it's like
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Milwaukee and Fullerton, okay.
So they roast their own coffee.
They buy really good coffee.
They roast on the same machinethat we roast on.
So I'm kind of showing theirsupport because they roast on a
Diedrich, which is what we roaston, and I know the guy who does
all their coffee and he's justa great dude.
So I'm always trying to plugGaslight for those people who
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are trying to get good coffee inthe city.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Very cool, yeah.
So what, getting into thebusiness a little bit, when you
decided to bring or start acoffee shop, or how did you
maybe one decide to start it andthen two end up in Mokina?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Love that question.
It's a huge, long journey toget there so I won't get into
all those details, but I startedtwo businesses when I lived out
in Arizona.
I moved out there in 2015,started two businesses that
failed and most people are like,well, that stinks and it did.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
What were those?
What kind of businesses?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
One was an app.
It was automated video editingsoftware, so it was centered
around going to events.
So if it was a concert orsporting event, it would kind of
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splice both perspectivestogether and then generate like
a 90 second highlight video ofyour time there.
And so I spent a lot of timedeveloping that and trying to
get that up off the ground andit failed.
It was not a good situation,but I just learned so much.
So I almost feel like I got mymaster's degree in business just
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by failing at business my firsttime.
And then it wasn't until I movedback in 2021 that I got that
itch to start a business again.
Sat down with my brother, chris, and he's like let's do
something, man, what do youthink?
And I'm just like well, I lovecoffee.
You know, I started roasting onthe side, just kind of as a
hobby.
I used to work as a baristapart-time while we were starting
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those other companies inPhoenix, so I had worked in it,
I had a passion for it and thisitch to be an entrepreneur and
it was just kind of the rightplace in the right time and
Chris kind of stoking the fireand getting that flame going.
But we really didn't know whatthe next step was until my
sister, rachel talk about timingcalls us out of the blue and
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says there's this really awesome, amazing empty bank building on
the corner of La Porte and WolfRoad.
You guys should just check itout.
It's sort of like a too good tobe true location, and so we
drove over there and we saw therealtor's information outside of
the building.
We're looking around and we'rejust like what is going on?
Why is this building vacant?
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This is such a great spot onthe corner here, and so we
contacted the realtor and wewere able to get in and it just
started.
The wheels just started turning.
I'm like we could put the barhere.
The roaster will go there, wecan knock that wall down,
kitchen here and before you knowit, we were able to get all of
our permits approved by thevillage, not without its.
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You know it's a process tostart a business and how long
was you know?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
you say you signed the lease or you started the
process to opening day.
How long did that take?
Eight months.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wow.
So it took us eight months,which, considering, is pretty
good timing.
To take an empty, vacant bankand to transform it into a
coffee house in eight months ismoving pretty quickly.
And, um, you know, we had somethings that slowed us down, but
those things that slowed us downwe were working with the
village, um were were thingsthat needed time.
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It wasn't something we couldblow past, it was something that
we needed to take time on andit involved safety and the patio
, and there was an existingdrive-thru that was already
there and we were figuring outif we were going to utilize the
drive-thru and if we weren't, itwas going to be a patio.
But it couldn't be a patiountil we had proper structures
that would prevent cars fromgetting so that kind of delayed
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things, but rightfully so.
It was important that we did itthat way.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So how far, how close did you stay to you know your
original, what you thought wasgoing to be your timeline?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We thought we were so optimistic.
We're like we're going to getthis done in four months.
Man, we got everything planned.
You know, we were go-gettersand so it took double that.
We thought we would do it infour months, but it took eight
months.
So yeah, it was a longerprocess than we expected.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So what did you learn ?
What are some lessons youlearned during that process?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
things that matter take time.
Things that you want to doright take time.
And there's no way of cuttingcorners.
Well, I guess there is, but ifyou want to do it the right way,
you don't want to cut corners.
And if you're not going to cutcorners, then you have to accept
that it's just going to take alittle bit longer.
And so I learned patience is,um is absolutely necessary in
starting a business.
Things go wrong that you didn'tthink would go wrong.
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People that you relied on uhend up being unreliable, um
finance it's.
There's a lot of moving parts,and for all of it to go right is
like an impossibility, you know.
So I think next time, or thenext coffee shop, whatever thing
, whatever we do next, I'll justhave a lot more wisdom, but
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also just a lot moreunderstanding going into it that
you need to be flexible and youneed to be able to bob and
weave with the ebbs and flows ofjust starting a brand new
business.
This was the first first of itskind, so no one gave us a
playbook and said here's how todo it.
You know, we did it all our own.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I know, you know the community was excited for the
whole as long as since thatfirst sign went up or word went
out that it was coming.
You know it was a long, youknow anticipated thing.
So I'm sure to us maybe it feltlike a lot longer at the time
than it did.
But now, looking at running forvillage trustee and looking
back at that experience, what doyou think you could take from
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that and make it easier orbetter, a smoother process for
businesses coming in orbusinesses that want to build?
How can you improve thatprocess after going through it
so recently?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Israel and I think that is abig part of why I am running for
trustee is to kind of take thewisdom that was learned from
this process and use it toadvance other businesses that
see Mkina as an attractive placeto start their business.
I think for me, when we firstwere driving down Front Street
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three years ago, we just sawwhat Molkina could be.
You just kind of have thisrevelation of like man, this
downtown has so much potential.
It's built to be special, it'sbuilt to be amazing.
We just have to get the rightpeople to buy into that.
We have to get the right peoplethat can catch that vision.
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Businesses take on all the risk, you know, because they're the
ones putting up their own moneyand they're the ones taking all
of their life savings, all oftheir time, energy and resources
into starting a business.
They need every advantage theycan get and they need to feel
like the wind is at their back.
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And that's an opportunity forthe village of Mokina to support
these businesses in that way,not to make it difficult, but to
make it easier.
And that doesn't mean that wewe stop scrutinizing and stop
holding people accountable.
It doesn't mean that.
It just means that we'repro-business, and being
pro-business means that we wantto hopefully attract the right
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people that fit our culture andour town to want to take that
risk that fit our culture andour town, to want to take that
risk.
And I think if you know thatthere are people on the village
board that are willing to workwith you and willing to champion
you, then that makes developersand entrepreneurs and small
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businesses that much more likelyto want to invest in the
downtown area and invest inMokina.
It's just, it's there, man,it's right there.
So that's what motivates me andI believe that that I can help
champion small businesses thatwant to come in here.
But I also have a lot of peoplethat and this is something that
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we're trying to work towardsrewriting, in a sense, the
reputation, Like you were saying, there's a reputation that
Mokina isn't pro-business andthat's not maybe entirely
accurate.
But if it's a reputation that'sout there, then if people are
trying to open up a business andthey're looking around the
different towns, they'reoverlooking Mokina when they
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shouldn't be because of thisreputation that was maybe there
before I even moved into town.
So I want to work to rewritethat so that doesn't even need
to be on the radar.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
What do you think as a trustee?
How do you think you can usethat position to help or what do
you think your role would beinteracting with, say, a new
potential business coming in?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
So I think, um, just my past ofbeing on teams is something that
I think I I bring a certaindynamic to the table.
That um represents what teamworklooks like, so I'm able to get
things done by myself if I can,and if I can't, I will find
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somebody who can, and usuallyit's somebody with a completely
different skill set, acompletely different background,
a completely different level ofability in that area.
Ability in that area, and soknowing that I want to execute
something, but knowing that it'sgoing to take a team to do it,
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I think is an asset to the, tothe village, because I know
where I end and where someoneelse can begin.
And so it does take a team toto make something a reality.
And when it comes to smallbusinesses coming into town and
recruiting those businesses,I'll know which person needs to
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be called, which person needs tobe set aside and asked
questions to, and so that's kindof the approach that I'm
bringing to.
This is just it's going to taketeamwork, it's going to take
the right people being on theright seats and the right
positions and ultimately, theyjust need to know that we're
going to work with them?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, great.
So we've talked some about it,but maybe just tell what made
you want to be a trustee and runfor trustee.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, it was probably just a number of things, but
being able to have arelationship with some of the
people who are already on theboard just through coming into
the coffee shop and having someinnocuous conversations, random
conversations, and seeing theirheart and catching their heart
because they care and I thinkthat's what's attractive about
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wanting to work with people thatcare.
And so having conversationswith the mayor and asking him if
I would have any interest andoriginally kind of being like no
, I got my hands full.
I have a business that we justopened.
It's a lot plus other thingsthat are going on in my life
that I want to focus on, but Ijust I just had this itch.
I don't know where it kind ofcame from, if it's just just the
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conversations I've had, or justum, a passion for wanting to
see something so ripe for um,for change in a good way, see
that through, to see that visioncome to reality.
That's what made me want to run.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think in the end, so you talked a little bit about
downtown and we had talked alittle before, and that's
something I'm extremelypassionate about.
I live in downtown.
I want to see an active,vibrant downtown.
We see a spark of it, with, youknow, the dock coming in and uh
, zap being there now and and uh, some other things, uh, but
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talk about downtown what you'dlike to see.
You know, if you could waveyour magic wand, how, what, what
would you want downtown to looklike?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
yeah, love that question because that's where a
lot of my time is spent inbetween the years, you know,
imagining and envisioning whatthings could be like.
So I love the fact that Mokinahas front street.
It's just, it's got a nice ringto it and then it's just a nice
long stretch of road that goesfrom Schoolhouse Road to Wolf
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Road.
And to me that's kind of wherewe start is just let's get Front
Street developed, let's have ahallmark main street for lack of
a better term just a mainstreet.
That's going to be where youcan basically park your car and
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go to six or more differentbusinesses just by walking
around.
And I think that's kind of ifyou could define what makes it
downtown.
I think it's like it's a handfulof businesses that are there
where, if you were on foot or onyour bike, you could walk
around, whether it's ice cream,a deli, brunch, a boutique, a
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clothing store, a spa, adoctor's office, you could go to
all of those places in a day onyour feet and walk from your
home or park your car and beable to walk around.
But it's not just front streetand it's not just having a row
of businesses, it's also justthe layout.
So you have and I think themayor has talked about this but
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Yunkers Park or Yunkers Farm,all of that land back there is
really underutilized, and so Ithink that is also great
potential for some bike paths,some trails.
I envision amphitheaters, justplaces to do outdoor concerts
and outdoor events andactivities for when the weather
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is nice.
So there's just so much you cando beyond just Front Street.
That will be so beneficial forfamilies that want to enjoy the
land in their backyard, but it'sgoing to take developers and
it's going to take people whowant to actually dig into that
ground.
But Front Street is kind ofwhere my mind first goes, just
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having a row of businesses thatpeople can frequent on foot,
yeah, or people get off thetrain.
You know the train tracks areright there too.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, and it's kind of.
It's funny.
Yeah, that's you'd love to see,that I'd love to see an active
and it it reminds me of what itused to be like.
You know, I talked to some withyou know the history of things.
We talk about the people thathave been around.
You know, back in the 80s and90s even and that's what it was,
you know you walk from shop,you had everything in downtown.
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You could get some groceries,you could get this or that, and
yeah, you know it's a differenttime, but like there's still
that there and there's so manygood examples with Tinley and
New Lenox and using their spacesto tie in and create community
space, I think we do have a lotof opportunity in Mokena for
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that.
Yeah, definitely Talk a littlebit about how your experiences
overall will make you a bettertrustee.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, I've been a leader my whole life, and what I
mean by that is I've just beenin a position where what I mean
by that is I've just been in aposition where I've had to be
the first to do something, orthe one to take a risk, or the
one to lead by example, or tokind of go head first into
something that is brand new andno one wants to do it.
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Something my parents wouldalways say growing up is Nick
will do it.
So it was kind of maybe a joke,but it's always stuck with me
it's just Nick will do it Right.
So it was kind of maybe a joke,but it's always stuck with me.
It's just Nick will do it.
And so I think that's kind ofgiven me not a fearlessness
necessarily, because it takescourage to still open up a
business and do other thingsthat are brand new.
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It's scary, but at the sametime, being able to push forward
even though you feel thoseemotions, I think is kind of
what makes me who I am.
So just a hunger to want to lead, but lead from a place of
service, of servanthood.
It's servant leadership.
That's what it is, andespecially in local politics,
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local government, it's aboutservice.
We're here to serve.
It's about service we're hereto serve, and if I have a gift
of leadership, it's only as goodas my ability to lead in a way
that serves the best interestsof the people who live here.
So I think that's kind of whatI bring.
But I also bring vision and Ibring a level of determination
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to want to see things be areality.
We can sit around this tableall day long and dream about
Front Street and all thesepossibilities, but we got to get
it done.
We actually need to work andact.
So another side of that is myimpatience of like come on,
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let's go.
We can do this.
We just have to cooperate.
We have to work together.
So I think it starts with avision.
It starts with good leadership.
I think we have that with MayorFrank Fleischer.
He's got the vision and I thinkthat's a big part of why I'm
even sitting here is theconversations we've had of him
also wanting all of this tohappen before he's done with his
service and so being able tokind of follow his vision and
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knowing that we're just here toserve.
We need to back all of this upwith a ton of action and we need
the right people to worktogether.
It's collaborative, which is thebeauty of how our government is
set up, is we do have to worktogether, and sometimes that's
more difficult than you'd likeit to be, and sometimes that's
more difficult than you'd likeit to be, but at the same time,
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it's a new opportunity to relateand connect to your co-workers
and the people you're workingwith in a different way, and so
if someone is different than you, you've got to be able to meet
them on that level If that'sgoing to make them feel like,
hey, you listened to me or youheard my idea, and that's half
the battle, that you're actuallywilling to listen to my ideas,
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my idea, and that's half thebattle that you're actually
willing to listen to my ideas.
And so I'm just excited to havethose conversations and to just
get to know the people thatwe're going to be working with.
And yeah, is that the answer?
Yeah, that's great, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So let's say if there's a criticism and somebody
says, hey, you've only beenhere two and a half years, what
makes you prepared to be atrustee?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's a fair question, very fair question.
I'm just here to learn that's abig part of it is.
I understand that I haven'tlived here for 30 years, 20
years, 10 years, five years,near two and a half years.
I understand that.
But I've had so manyconversations with people who
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have come through the coffeeshop and we've I've been able to
second-handedly get a rundownof this town um, just through
the people who have lived herefor so long.
So in a way I feel like I'velived here longer than I have
just because I've gotten tospend so much time with people
who have been lifelong Mokinaresidents.
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But I would just say where Ilack experience of being a
resident here, I make up for inmy passion and enthusiasm for
wanting to see Mokena be thatall it can be.
But wanting to learn means alsowanting to listen, and so I've
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had some great conversationsjust in the last couple of weeks
as the campaign has started,just asking questions and just
being like, hey, what do youwant to see in your town?
What does a good downtown looklike to you?
And when you start to connectthe dots and you start to see
common denominators of like, wow, okay, these aren't just random
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things people want to see.
There's a cohesive narrativestarting to connect here that
people want a downtown andthey're craving it, so they
deserve it, and that's what Iwould say yeah, great.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
What do you see as some of the biggest challenges
facing the village over the nextfive to ten years?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I would probably have to just say the passing of the
baton, the passing of the mantlefrom one generation to the next
generation.
So I think what happens is aprevious generation gets
complacent isn't the right word,maybe comfortable and it's only
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human nature to want to seekwhat's comfortable and what's
familiar, and this happens withevery generation.
The next generation comes alongand says, hey, we see things
differently, we want to dothings differently.
The old generation holds on tothe past of what's familiar and
is a little bit resistant towhat change needs to happen.
The people who want to makechanges bite off more than they
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can chew and there's thistension, there's this tug of war
that's happening.
And so I think that is going tobe a challenge over the next
five to ten years is how do westeward the rich history of
Mokina, of this awesome town,and honoring the people who
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really have built it, who havedone the hard work of making
Okinawa what it is andpreserving that while still
making room for change andprogress and just taking it to
another level.
So I see that as a challenge,but it's only as difficult as a
challenge is people's ability orinability to want to work
together and hear each other out.
So both sides, both generations, need a great deal of humility
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to say, hey, we need to pass thebaton, but we need to pass the
baton to people who aren't goingto ruin or tamper with the
goodness that we've created hereover the last however many
generations.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So it can be tough to balance that desire to bring in
new blood as well as learningand respecting and appreciating
the experience and knowledge,and that that's have come from
the time before.
You know as well, and that canbe a real challenge in a
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situation like this, for sureTalk.
How would you so you say youwin and you get into office?
How would you challenge?
How would you deal withdisagreements with fellow
trustees or the mayor?
You know, something comes upand you don't disagree with them
.
What's your strategy to workthrough that?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I think I can just allude tohow we make tough decisions at
Clancy Bros.
I have a partner right, it'sClancy Brothers, it's not just
me and we have other people whoare a part of the ownership of
the company, that are veryinvolved on the back end of the
company, and what we have iswhat we call our true north.
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Our true north is shared vision.
If we've all agreed that thisis going to be the vision, this
is where we're going.
This is the standard that we'regoing to run the business.
When it comes time to makingdecisions, we have to ask is
this decision going to move theneedle towards what we've
already established as our endgoal?
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And that has taken all of theguesswork out of it, and we
really have just had amazingmeetings.
And when we do have to maketough decisions, it just brings
so much clarity knowing that,hey, the vision has been set,
the mission is set, this iswhere we're headed, these are
the values and these are thecharacteristics of the kinds of
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people we want to bring intothis team.
These are the kinds ofdecisions we want to be making.
That's going to push Mokinacloser to what we want it to
become, and so, when it comes toworking with a team, you have
to have somebody who sets theagenda and sets the tone and
casts that vision.
And not everyone has to agreewith that vision, and sometimes
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that is the case.
But when you come to adisagreement, hopefully there is
something that is going to beyour compass, that is going to
guide you back towards a placeof not compromise but agreement,
where we can maybe disagree oncertain things, but we can.
We can agree on the biggerpicture stuff, the macro stuff
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of like, hey, this is going tomove the needle towards where we
want to go, and so we need tobe in agreement on this.
But, um, I think too, it's.
It's again.
It goes back to the servicething.
It's not about me.
Yeah, we're all individuals upthere, but we have to vote
together, and so each one of usbrings a different perspective,
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and that's a beautiful thing tosome degree.
But when we go issue by issue,line item by line item, you're
bound to have a disagreement.
And so my thought iscollaboration.
I just want to be able tocollaborate, and if you can't,
then you can't, and then you usethe power of the vote to kind
of be your last ditch effort tospeak your piece.
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You vote a certain way, but ifyou can come to an agreement
through conversation andcollaboration, first by going
back to your true north of whatyou're setting out to do in the
first place, then I think that'shalf the battle.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So, kind of as we wrap up, I have some more
lighthearted questions, butfirst talk about your family a
little bit.
Your siblings, tell us who theyare a little, and your parents.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah.
So my parents, mike and RoseClancy best parents I could have
ever asked for, gosh, they didso much for us growing up.
When you look back it's likehow did my mom homeschool five
kids, how did my dad start aconstruction company from
nothing and then build it towhat it was, while having five
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kids and us being involved ineverything sports, academics,
just busyness but had greatparents.
They're still very invested inmy life and I in their lives to
this day.
We're very close.
My brother Mike he's the oldest, he's an attorney, he lives out
in Scottsdale, arizona, he'sgot a big family, he's married
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and he's got six kids.
My brother Wow, six kids.
He's got six kids.
Yeah, just had twins over thesummer, wow.
Four to six, yeah so they have abeautiful family out there in
Arizona.
My sister Beth.
She's out here.
She lives in Plainfield.
She's married two kids.
She works for a real estatedevelopment company out in
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Lamont.
Chris, my partner at Clancy Bros, married two kids.
He lives out in Western Springs.
He and I coach flag footballtogether and he's just a guy I
look up to and always been arole model and a mentor to me,
especially when I was reallyyoung.
But so to be able to work withhim has been awesome.
He also has a constructioncompany called Clancy Co Works,
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primarily out of Chicago on thenorth neighborhoods up there in
the city and he does a reallygood job of taking old buildings
.
And it's ironic that we took anold building in Clancy Bros and
we made it into something great.
And that's what he does hetakes old buildings and he
renovates them, he flips them,he redoes them and he sells them
.
So he's really found his nicheout there in the city.
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And then my sister Rachel,another entrepreneur, married to
another entrepreneur.
She's got two boys.
She lives here in Mokina.
Her company's called Boxed GiftCompany.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, talk a little bit about that in right in
within your little complex there.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, rachel.
Rachel started in 2017 and itjust started kind of as a a
passion project.
She just has this gift ofwanting to give right and so she
just is this generous person.
She's's like, how do I takethat and make it a business?
And then she just had this ideaof these like carefully curated
gift boxes where people, ifthey're in a pinch and they
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don't have time to like go outand get a gift, they literally
go right to her shop fill yourbox with these random.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
That's my wife's exact so she's done it a couple
times.
It works, works out great.
Oh, it's great yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, so she's doing great over there.
She started out in her house,then moved to New Lenox and now
she's here in Mokina.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's awesome yeah it's great and that strip, so
there's a couple things in thatother property there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, first we have Fratello's.
They do a lot of catering butthey also have lunch and dinner
for walk-ins and I'm pretty surethey have a pretty stellar
DoorDash community because youalways see cars coming in and
out picking up orders reallygood Italian food.
Next door is actually ClancyBros Wholesale.
So we have a second businessit's the wholesale arm of the
company where we just roast.
So we not only roast forourselves but we roast for other
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businesses in this communityand then all over Chicagoland
and is that part open?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Is that open to the public at all or not?
It's not.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's like our roastery where we roast most of
the beans, but it's also anactive commissary too.
We have a full kitchen in therethat's been approved of Will
County Health Department forpeople who want to use it as a
commissary, but we use it tomake all of our pastries, so all
of our pastries are in-house.
So it's a kitchen roastery.
And then the last unit isin-touch design.
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I think that's what it is.
You'll have to double checkInDesign or InTouch Design and
it's just an interior designboutique company out in that
corner unit.
So, yeah, we have neighbors andthey're all great, so it was
cool to see that buildingfinally get some tenants.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Well, the whole corner.
You know that building's beenvacant as long as you know.
We were coming on nine yearsand I know it was before that
too, so it's great to see thewhole thing active now.
It really brings life to thatcorner.
So, besides Clancy's, what aresome of your?
What's your favorite breakfastrestaurant?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I would probably say just like, historically, the
original Pancake House.
Just growing up, going thereafter church and just getting a
Dutch baby, you know, supernostalgic.
So when I moved back into thearea that was like the first
place we went to.
I was like it's right down thestreet now.
That's funny, this could bedangerous.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
So I would say that Okay, how about a favorite area
restaurant?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In the Mokina area.
What's?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
your call.
I mean, you know, play to thevoters or not, let's see.
It doesn't have to be, you cango anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I like Cultivate in downtown Frankfurt.
They sell our cold brew there,so shout out to Cultivate.
They have really goodsandwiches, salads over there.
It's not really in this area,it's a little bit of a drive,
but downtown Lamont, I reallylike Wood Paddle Pizza over
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there.
They just do a really good joband just great people over there
.
The owner, jonathan, is areally nice guy and they have a
terrific chef that totallyrevamped their menu.
So the pizzas are really good,but they just have these other
food items that are just liketop-notch.
So that's always a good spot,even if you're just looking to
chow down on a pizza or lookingto have like a nice date.
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So it's like it's just best ofboth worlds, great spot wouldn't
peddle.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
All right, we won't strike you too hard for it not
being a Mokina restaurant.
How about your favorite Mokinacommunity event?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I was really, really excited about the food trucks
that we were doing.
I mean, I know that's not asingle event, but it's.
You know it's a weekly thingand a lot of people started
coming to it.
You know, especially when itfirst started, you weren't sure
if it was going to take off.
And then, boom, you know,people really did show out for
it, so that was great.
But, dude, the 4th of Julyparade is freaking awesome.
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Yeah, and I'm biased because itgoes right by Clancy Rose and we
have, you know, our little tentout there and just serving up
coffee and cold brew and icedtea to people who have just been
camping out since 5 am, and areyou guys open during the oh
yeah?
Yeah, yeah, we're open and uh,it's just.
Yeah, it's fun, it's just a funday for us because we get to
(40:01):
just see all the floats go likeright by.
Oh, that's cool, and theneveryone's just camped outside,
so that's great.
Yeah, fourth july is awesomeyeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I agree that's my favorite community event too.
How about your favorite thingabout mochina?
I'd say two things.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
First thing is no one gives mochina enough credit for
how like uniquely positioned itis on the map.
Like you have, you havelagrange and then you have 30,
but then it's sort of Mokina'ssort of tucked away a little bit
and I think it lends itself tobeing like it has a feel that
(40:36):
New Lenox doesn't have, thatFrankfurt doesn't have.
It's just Mokina has its ownfeel and that feeling is it's
like a small town, it's ahometown, it's a small town, it
feels tucked away.
But because you have those bigroads and Wolf Road going
through, you know that you'reone shot away from getting back
into the hustle and bustle too.
So it's like it's a veryuniquely positioned on the map,
(40:58):
which I love that it's like that.
But number two, just the peopleman telling you it's like has
blown me away just in the lastand I get emotional even just
talking about it becauseespecially the first year, I was
behind the bar a lot, you know,just making drinks, just
because I had to be.
You know it was a brand newbusiness and everything had to
(41:19):
be running right, so I couldn'tafford to not be there.
But you just have these randomconversations and people just
saying, like man, we're so gladyou're here and thank you for
choosing Mokina.
And it's just like you can'tbeat those those little
connections over time.
And on top of those littleconnections you develop
friendships just through thatand you really get a snapshot
(41:41):
into the heart of Mokina andit's just great people that live
here and so Shout out.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Danny Potter, and so shout out Danny Potter.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Oh man, I got a story about Danny.
But yeah, man, he's like, it'smy, it's my favorite customer
right there.
Man, when you, when I first metDaniel, you know I didn't know
what to what to do at first,cause I didn't know him.
And then he would stand, youknow, in his like designated
spot and he would say hello toeverybody and everyone knew him.
Everyone would say hi back.
(42:11):
It's like this guy knowseverybody in town.
Somehow him just being theremade everyone comfortable
Because we were new and it'slike this new coffee shop, but
Daniel's here, that just makesit better.
So, yeah, shout out to Daniel.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Potter.
He's a staple.
I have a similar story.
I take the train downtown andfor a long time Danny would be
there every day and would waveat the trains and then knew
every conductor and like hey,where's Frank today?
He knew their schedules andthen, as I got to know him, I
(42:45):
mean now I get calls twice aweek.
I love Danny, he's great he knewall about that, of course of
course we're going to talk todanny too soon, so right, um,
what would you say is maybe the,the local business that you
support the most?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
we used to go to zap taco a lot um over the summer,
and we still do so.
I would say Zap Taco is upthere, and then would it be
weird to say BrookhavenBrookhaven grocery store.
I live right over there, so I'mthere pretty much every day
grabbing my dinner.
(43:23):
But, to be honest with you, Ithink this is a perfect
opportunity to make a pointwhich is like the fact that it's
kind of difficult to even thinkabout.
That is is what motivates me towant to make it a no-brainer.
Yeah, yes, that's where I go.
That's where I go, and for somepeople, I'm sure it's, it is a
(43:44):
no-brainer.
But I want the, I want thedowntown to be a place where
there is just thriving localbusinesses, where people cannot
wait to go back and they're notunsure about if they should go
or not.
It's just like no, that's ourspot.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I really appreciate this.
I'll say you and ClancyBrothers have been very
supportive of the Lions Club andgiven us the coffee the last
two years, which has beenawesome for the pancake
breakfast we do, yeah, so it isalways great to see businesses
coming in and you know wantingto be involved and get active
and supportive in that.
So thank you both and you allat Clancy Brothers for doing
(44:22):
that, and you know, just thankyou for taking the time to talk
to me and anything else you wantto share.
If you want to make your pitchor say why people should vote
for you, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, well, thanks, israel.
It's a pleasure sitting downwith you and appreciate the
opportunity as well.
Yeah, the last closing remarksI would make would just be we're
here to serve the people ofMokina.
We're here to serve the peopleof Mokina.
The people of this communitydeserve to have a viable
downtown and they deserve tohave a place where they can be
(44:57):
proud of A downtown that's intheir backyard, that they can
walk to, they can ride theirbikes to, they don't have to
travel, they can have peace ofmind knowing that everything
that they need and want in ahealthy community and a healthy
town is all here.
It's all here and um, and somemight say that it's already
(45:17):
there and we don't need tochange anything.
But based on what I've heardfrom the people that live in
this, in this community, is they, they want that.
So it's not that we want it andyou should want it too.
It's you've communicated thatyou want it.
Now it's time to go to work.
It's time to.
We want it and you should wantit too.
It's you've communicated thatyou want it.
Now it's time to go to work.
It's time to go to work GreatWell.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Thank you, nick.
Be sure to check out all of ourvideos and on the different
candidate interviews and be sureto vote on April 1st in the
election.
This is really important and inthese small elections every
vote really does count.
It's not a large vote total, soif you want to make a
difference.
This is the election.
So thanks again, nick,appreciate it, appreciate it
(45:56):
absolutely.
Thank you.
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